💁gameplay-help

[lapis raven]

too long ago i forgot

[dusty dagger]

it was literally the last time we played

[lapis raven]

too long ago

[dusty dagger]

if you're trying to bait me to q with you now it ain't working

[cunning gull]

thank uuuuu

[lapis raven]

if ure tryna bait me into giving u a compliment, it aint working

</3

[dusty dagger]

ok

😔

[lapis raven]

p1 is clean
transition is just adhd; u theoretically dont really need to do anyt at all
p2 my dmg is a bit wonkers i think it can be cleaner but im not locked in enough to get a run rn

[misty pike]

wottle so mean

[lapis raven]

oh hi

[misty pike]

Cay ur so pretty

[lapis raven]

?

[misty pike]

He wanted a compliment

[cunning gull]

yuh for the trasition at least ill make sure cora and hofi have their buffs active

[lapis raven]

yea thats all u rly gotta do

i think meching at 5s left seems to work too

[cunning gull]

oh

[full trench]

can i get one

[lapis raven]

shoo

[dusty dagger]

[lapis raven]

cay ure not pretty

[misty pike]

Kanbaeru ur so funny

[lapis raven]

https://medal.tv/games/honkai-impact-3/clips/kKA5mjP2R0AC1k1dN?invite=cr-MSxiSGgsNDAyMzExMDU5

@cunning gull 705, p2 a bit cleaner but reverse the first ca and ult; do ult ca so ult cd is up quicker

[full trench]

<3

[misty pike]

🫶

[lapis raven]

and also u can probs do the cora jump wa a bit earlier i was just scared of getting hit

[crude cloak]

Demej gap in P1

[lapis raven]

i think 710 is a bit of a stretch but a bit below that shd be doable

ive hit 716 with kia4 already so :3

[lapis raven]

are u doing ur buffs right

[crude cloak]

HoFi WA -> Cora ult -> WA

[lapis raven]

cos ive got like 2 18 lines here

[crude cloak]

Wtf

[lapis raven]

yea u arent even doing it properly

[crude cloak]

Huh

[lapis raven]

cora wa ult wa; i used a wa

[dusty dagger]

Man stfu

[lapis raven]

questioned my scores too </3

[lapis raven]

ure pretty fucking noob

[dusty dagger]

[lapis raven]

never even ans my dms im so heartbroken

[dusty dagger]

What

[lapis raven]

i asked u smth on sun and u dint even reply

[crude cloak]

Ah, thought you still were doing the opener you've mentioned before

[dusty dagger]

Bro you asked me that when I was asleep

[lapis raven]

a simple no wldve sufficed </3

[lapis raven]

yea i had extra damage there

u need more damage? do an opening that gives u more dmg idk man

wasnt even on the right emblem lol

[crude cloak]

Didn't expect it to be more damage cuz I thought that it was still fitting in the 15 secs

ig I should've checked that

[cunning gull]

noted ty again

[crude cloak]

I feel like you can do even more than 710

You've been hit by ranged stuff a lot

I've got 706 with 1 ult in P2

[rigid cedar]

i hate this

i swear i'm holding Num 4 and it somehow decides to do basic anyway

tried inputting the same button with controller at the same time, nothing changed

[crude cloak]

It means the bar isn't actually full

Just a UI bug (Lantern has a similar one)

[rigid cedar]

no way

and here i thought i just do wrong input queues or something

[crude cloak]

You can do CA -> BA2 cancel + ult -> multiple BA2

iirc ult into CA is faster anyway (cmiiw here)

[rigid cedar]

i needed to get ult back asap, i actually finish p1 with it

wouldnt hurt to try i guess.

[crude cloak]

Water has a ref alr, use the opener from it

Your current one loses too much damage

[rigid cedar]

alright

[crude cloak]

In this channel

[rigid cedar]

hofi wa would still hit right? i saw some damage numbers below the map before the mechs dropped

[crude cloak]

Yes

[rigid cedar]

ah wait, i need to hit the actual sword

[crude cloak]

Even if it doesn't hit you only lose 10% TDM

[rigid cedar]

and coralie is -15% TDT

yeah okay i see it

[lapis raven]

3 ba2 cancel + full wa = need one more a to ca
2 ba2 cancel + full wa + ba3 = just nice to ca, but lesser dmg

[rigid cedar]

if my bracket stays so slack, i'm actually getting +100 from this cycle. unbelievable

[rigid cedar]

ah okay good to know

[red plank]

ok wtf

your score is t10 in my bracket

which already finalised

[lapis raven]

+10d btw

so his score is realistically lower on sea

[rigid cedar]

ah nvm someone woke up

need to lock in then

[red plank]

yeah

[red plank]

smh 720 where

[weak oracle]

ooof... what a wacky boss

[patent quest]

whut is dis

[weak oracle]

my first run

and this is second.

[willow wedge]

Hey, so I have 2 dorm levels until I max out, and I have none of the new sp valks (chrono, coralie, battlestorm etc) should I just focus on collecting their fragments and none of the other valks since they seem to give more dorm credits (15 for every SSS) ?

(Also I stopped playing the game before Part 2 so these sp valks are new to me lol)

[open bone]

if you dont have a lot of part 2 valks coralie will actually also give you some gamplay utility so there's that too

[full trench]

coralie has a character card from p2 story so unlock that first, you need to play it to get her weapon anyway

vbs is good if you are pulling paws but if you aren't then you can honestly ignore her

[willow wedge]

Thanks everyone, that's helpful

[full trench]

make sure to do it from the story tab and not the anchor in the top left since that takes you to the newest chapter

[arctic spoke]

how this score good is? or bad at all?

[rigid cedar]

Ignoring the Coralie goof when Tribunal flew in, how did I do?

loud music warning i guess, needed it and idk how to just record application output yet with shadowplay

maybe a step backwards and I should get back to obs

[full trench]

maybe good for paws, not for vita

[arctic spoke]

paws?

i do it in vita, well idk how to bring more

[full trench]

two SO?

[arctic spoke]

1

did we need in 1st phase do SO?

[full trench]

#💁gameplay-help message try this

think it's sea so damage should be easy to follow

[arctic spoke]

i cant oneshot it but so too much gues

i try thanks

[lapis raven]

na

sea closed by then

[full trench]

💔

well less dmg should be fine still

[arctic spoke]

well i just bad
*im too slow

[pale palm]

same

[rigid cedar]

damn I-

no wonder we're -1 from NA

[arctic spoke]

like that

[lapis raven]

no wonder glb is easier than sea

[rigid cedar]

right?

i actually agree with you there

[lapis raven]

so make a sea acc

[crude cloak]

Where's your KR acc

Gotta lead by example

[lapis raven]

too burnt out nty

[outer cloud]

What am I suppose to do?

[elfin parrot]

time your shot so it hits all the circular targets in one shot

the circular targets will move up and down and you'll have to wait for the timing where they're about to sync in the center

@outer cloud

[narrow cedar]

seeing these runs made me try too lol

Vita dps lmao

s0 V maybe can do 650, actually not too shabby

[lapis raven]

whelao

[pale musk]

I should use this to get a missing DK, right?

[crude cloak]

Yes

[rigid cedar]

that's the main priority yea

[open bone]

What can you expect to get with PAWS PS Coralie this abyss? (A3, 467 disturbance) They’re all geared but my Helia weapon is only level 60 and my coralie stigs aren’t maxed.

I have a halfassed run that probably won’t lose me trophies but if it’s possible to beat 635 I might try and get +100

[crude cloak]

It's very hard to tell, most people here don't have much experience with A3 and copium teams, it's best if you record a run of yours and we go from there

[open bone]

What recording software do people usually use for this?

[crude cloak]

If you're on PC you can use OBS

On mobile you most likely alr have smth built in

[open bone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlmxE2mAWh4

I scuffed some of my transitions recording this, I have 502 for real

but this is the strategy I used

[elfin parrot]

I personally use avi demux to crop certain points in my recording but there are prob more modern software nowadays.

no need to use two cora WAs at the start. You're already using ult. Maybe that second KE can be kept for using the thumping finisher sooner so it hits as the boss lands.

PAWs basic sequence could be done smoother but I don't think i need to point that out. You may not want to evade cancel at all if you need the marginal damage.

When cora swapped back in p1, no need to do ground basics. Just let the air basic give you the stack you need for the thumping weapon finisher.

Consider saving the outburst for p2. If you have 3* kiana elf use that instead.

[open bone]

I don’t have any Kiana elf, pretty new and was told to save the elf selector box

[elfin parrot]

elf box will only get you to 2* so yeah keep holding for now

[open bone]

Do you think unscuffing it might get me another 150? Because that’s what I would need for +100 trophies

[elfin parrot]

for transition

maybe helia can take care of the energy core thing after PS handles the bleed shield? idk tbh.

If you're brining in outburst then it'll apply all of cora's effects so no need to swap her back in as opposed to what you're doing in the video.

i can't tell you. This is unexplored territory to me

[open bone]

Oh, including serious hammering? I’ve been messing that up for a while then, that’s huge even if it doesn’t save my anything here

[elfin parrot]

maybe review skill descriptions to double check but i believe so

for the ending i'm not sure if cora is best for that. Maybe see if PS can gather better?

paws has some gathering too but it's not that great iirc

i'm going to assume outburst will handle p2 but if it doesn't then you'll have to evaluate based on its remaining hp

[open bone]

I think coralie is best because she’s usually faster than that but yeah maybe worth a shot

[elfin parrot]

if justice meter isn't completely fill then maybe fill it up in p2 before outbursting too

[open bone]

Yeah I haven’t been doing that and it’s been taking me 2 outbursts

So maybe that’ll be relevant too. I’ll try and apply all of those

[elfin parrot]

you may want to prolong your stay in outburst since outburst only effects are active

and not end it early

so there's two ways to go about this

one is simply to delay your CA > ult finisher

[open bone]

I usually only get 5 ults if I stretch it but I could do 2 -> go ps -> back and do a full set maybe

[elfin parrot]

the other way is to use the first CA > swap to sushang QTE WA Ult > back to PAWs and scramble for the remaining sp the second teammate is supposed to provide and hope you can farm enough (there's multiple enemies so it might be possible) for a second CA

[open bone]

Yeah if that’s doable I’m not good enough to manage it reliably

Not sure if 2 swap or just stay in is better

[elfin parrot]

i can only encourage you to give things a try at this point

[open bone]

No overall this has been very helpful

I bet I can crank some more score out just not sure if it’s enough

[elfin parrot]

i'm actually not too familiar what the PS outburst swap would do outside of sp so maybe review that too. A keyword to look for in the astral section would be shining trace iirc?

see if there's any damage enhancement there

oh abyss ends in 30 minutes for us huh

ok i would lean more towards...
outburst as soon as p2 starts and see how far extending it and not ending it early can get you

there should be enough time to test 1 CA vs 2 in outburst

but i would lean towards going after 2 CA when there's multiple enemies to gain sp off of

keep in mind PAWS gain more sp when below 100 so you want to ult as much as you can to keep your sp low before you really have to farm

maybe scout a run or two testing gathering at the start

i really want to say PS has a nice one from her WA/QTE or something

but i might be off there

if any suggestions that i suggested feels iffy to you, abandon it. Consistency/reliability is prob more important right now unless you're certain the ceiling for that isn't enough for your target

hm it might be off of her CA actually. i'm unsure whether i would prefer that or cora then

nvm it's on her WA

[open bone]

Okay so saving stellar burst for part 2 def seems plausible, I broke part 1 at 832 anyway

Okay ps weapon either didn’t work or I clicked it too early but I still got another 22 points this way

From my previous best

[elfin parrot]

hm maybe the range of it is too limited. I only tested on p1 when everything was already close

[open bone]

With this strategy and coralie at the end I got 3541, net + 39

Not nearly enough to promote but very easily visible

And I think I can get a few more

[elfin parrot]

at the very least you learned some ways to optimize further for future scenarios

but yeah sorry i couldn't help any further

[open bone]

Yep 46 is possible since I got it, and I bet somewhere in the 60-70 range in theory

[open bone]

Don’t feel bad, I’m missing points even for this comp just from not having managed to max my weapon and not spending prisms on coralie stigma 2 upgrades. (Much less compared to people with 3 gacha ops). You still improved my score by 3 places

[fading light]

Hello there!

I've been forcing these three in MA but I'm notnsure this time around which team i should use in which boss for better "chances", help

[pale musk]

You were kinda right. t8 all 4/4 Luna with 4/4 CE so a significant amount of people have Luna
but there was: someone with the same team as me but with 4/4 Luna, someone with 4/4 Luna with Hotr and CE (albeit wep not fully leveled up), a 4/4 Luna team with CE and Eden, and a 4/4 Luna with HoTR and Eden
In other words, for all in tense and purposes I should have been knocked down to RL but I wasn't for whatever reason.

[half hatch]

sena team on sampo
dudu team on aponia
and then you can use the third one for SS
the reason being that sampo has a lightning shield irrc

[cunning gull]

if paws, hohe/ps, fws on sampo
how should i divide my characters for aponia boss and sd guy?

[crude cloak]

Well, you really want Phys with shieldbreak on Apo

So JDS Sena Thele on Apo ig? The question is what you run on Alien then

[cunning gull]

yeah, i wont have an sd unit for sd guy as long as fws is with paws hmm

[crude cloak]

It's SS, you don't need an SD unit

[open bone]

There’s also cosmic expression if you really need one but you shouldn’t

Can just brute force it

[crude cloak]

Maybe cook smth up with Vita DPS? She can 1 sec regular SS bosses, not sure how she'll fare against a 2-phase one

[cunning gull]

alr

[vernal terrace]

Alien is still two phase even if SS?

[modern yew]

She can 0 sec alien, provided u have s2, might also need teri aop for initial ari

[crude cloak]

Yes

[cunning gull]

dont have that lol...
guess if i get a close score that should be fine ig..

[vernal terrace]

Interesting-

[crude cloak]

There's also Kasumi

The only boss that you can't 0 sec on afaik

[vernal terrace]

I'm gonna have a weird divide for MA

[mortal jetty]

You can

[crude cloak]

Wasn't that with some kind of bug abuse

[mortal jetty]

~~ with Screenshots + pause spam~~

[crude cloak]

Thought these were fixed alr

A long while ago too

[mortal jetty]

I saw a run with 31946 on kasumi last time

[crude cloak]

[mortal jetty]

Maybe it was an old one? I didn't pay attention of the date

[spiral raven]

the last time i saw any legitimate 31946 kasumi in exalted is end of 2022

im pretty sure screenshot/dragging window is "fixed" by now so if you saw it recently is it on leaderboard or a ref

but im not sure with ma, at least in abyss if you try window dragging the game just forcibly deducts 7 points

[boreal eagle]

is fixed everywhere

[dusky mantle]

I just use hoo hofi dp lel

For alien guard

[stuck charm]

I need a way to make crystals fast or i'm cooked, i've already completed story and whatever character challenges i could do for pulls

[spiral raven]

there's like 3 or 4 other teams arent there

[spiral raven]

id just skip her

ur not gonna be able to get her sig atp

this game u need sig and char together

[stuck charm]

I already got the character S2

[stuck charm]

Yeah ik

[spiral raven]

o im blind

sorry i cant read

[spiral raven]

uh how about er

have u gotten all crystals from getting all char exclusive signets

[stuck charm]

Actually yeah i haven't

I can just lite for all of them

[spiral raven]

yes

[stuck charm]

I owe you my life

[spiral raven]

lel but other than that, there's old tutorial stages that u maybe haven't done, otherwise no other option im afraid

assuming you alr did everything else

like ma also gives like what 40 xtal per sss boss

u still have tmr daily for another 60 xtals but doubt you have other sources to make enough for one pull

[stuck charm]

Yeah i don't i've been grinding er for lv 10 and 15 upgrade rewards

[stuck charm]

@spiral raven you are my hero

[spiral raven]

lel, nice though

gratz on sig

[fluid ibex]

So I'm not seeing anything online about it, but is it possible to get Valkyrie Boltstorm's signature weapon, Electrifying Arc, via Part 2 story, the same way it was for Valkyrie Blastmetal?

[open bone]

No. You have to either stick with her starter weapon, or you can get a cope weapon for a bit of stats from the foundry for 150 AE imaginions

Her signature isn’t available

You can craft her signature stigmata but they probably aren’t worth it

[fluid ibex]

Oof. Well the Foundry weap has an actual active effect and can be Synergized, so... I guess that's what I'm doing gradually then. Working on SSS ranking both of them too

Oh I got her signature Stigmata way before I even joined this server when I came back to Hi3

[open bone]

Ah okay

Well, they do improve her performance a lot

[crude cloak]

Nah, keep it at lvl 35 and don't Synergize it

It's a waste of AE Imags/Honkai Shards

Old Helia is not super useful nowadays

[fluid ibex]

Well I already max leveled it

And I have literally nothing else to do with my AE Imagi... Whatever.

[crude cloak]

It's fine if you have an excess, ye

[fluid ibex]

||I don't really pull for meta, just what I like, and I saw a post on Twitter that showed a Part 2 Seele still...

Which means I'm power grinding pulls because I am SO getting Seele if she's a playable P2 unit!!!||

[crude cloak]

Gotta spoiler tag that, it's CN info

[fluid ibex]

Oooh didn't realize it was that much of a spoiler

[crude cloak]

Just channel rules
Everything Chinese is to be spoiler tagged

[fluid ibex]

Idk when it's even placed in the story lol, I haven't touched P2 story yet because I'm having fun with ER, MA, and Abyss

Plus the occasional dump 200 stamina into Expeditions for free fragments of characters I'll literally never play

[crude cloak]

The latest chapter in the next patch

9-EX iirc?

[fluid ibex]

Yeah I haven't even finished P2 chapter one yet LOL

[crude cloak]

[fluid ibex]

I pulled for PAWS because lordy she's gorgeous

That's my only metric XD

[red plank]

I mean just do ER

the valk levels also give Xtals

and shallow sequence

[steady osprey]

he already done it and got the weap lol

[red plank]

oh wow discord why tf did you take me 2 years up

[steady osprey]

yeah sometimes i answer the question and then when my chat show up its 2 years down

[red plank]

yeah

happens way too many times

[fair dawn]

if i only have badum kiana and coralie do i get sushang or helia?

[crude cloak]

Helia, but whether you get someone in the first place depends on your current funds

[fair dawn]

why not sushang

[crude cloak]

Because Helia is more likely to be relevant for longer
Also ||it looks like Helia is very good for the 8.4 valk||

[fair dawn]

is 8.4 next patch

bro idc i dont like 8.4 valk im not getting her

[fair dawn]

but i already have fire shouldnt i get phys

[crude cloak]

Thinking in elements about coverage doesn't help much, coverage is about a lot more than that

Another aspect is we don't know how good Helia is as a support for GoI

[crude cloak]

Coverage includes valk types and utility (hitcount, ailments, valk-specific SD mechanics, etc.)

[fair dawn]

is badum a support for helia

[crude cloak]

Yes

BiS actually

[fair dawn]

okay so ur positive on me getting helia instead of sushang

[vernal terrace]

||Next patch Valkyrie is gonna be the BiS GoI breach support||

[crude cloak]

Well, they did say they're skipping her

[fair dawn]

yes but the deisgn is ugly i dont want her. how much is that a loss to my account if not getting next patch valk

[spiral raven]

how much do u care about abyss in the first place

[crude cloak]

From what I've seen (the data is limited for now tbf) not having her is not that big of a deal

[crude cloak]

If you're a more casual player you're 100% free to skip her

[fair dawn]

bro im in forbidden i havent done anything this patch yet i couldnt play till today

[crude cloak]

Going for Sushang would be fine too if you specifically prefer her

[fair dawn]

ok

i need 11 more pulls for the valk and 38 for the weapon do u think i can get that many pulls in 15 days when i havent done anything this patch yet

[crude cloak]

You should have a lot of one-time crystal sources left, so yeah

[fair dawn]

okay

[crude cloak]

My rec is still Helia though

[fair dawn]

ill get helia then even tho i like sushangs deisgn and attacks better

[mortal jetty]

Are you casual or competitive?

[fair dawn]

if i wanted to get sushang later would that be a bad investment if i dont like 8.5 valk too

[crude cloak]

Well, it looks like they're too broke for 8.4 anyway

[fair dawn]

im so broke

[crude cloak]

ig you could technically skip 8.3 entirely, but they alr mentioned they ain't pulling 8.4

[crude cloak]

Depends on what's in 8.5

8.5 is anni, anni stuff is almost always very good

[fair dawn]

i forgot the patches r so long now😭

[spiral raven]

8.4 valk gives breach which is not insignificant if u use kiana as dps

but by the sounds of it ur casual

so its alg in the end

[fair dawn]

would this be bad

[spiral raven]

like when she rerun

[fair dawn]

yes

[spiral raven]

backpulling is never a good idea

[crude cloak]

It's acceptable

[spiral raven]

but ur casual so it's fine

[half hatch]

It's not a ideal decision by any means but how bad it is depends on how good Sushang is for newer valks and how good 8.5 is

[fair dawn]

i understand but the only other character i have rn is coralie besides badum and if 8.5 valk isnt gonna fit my team then i need her

[spiral raven]

well what's more likely is that your older teams will see less use, so its fine to have them incomplete

competitively speaking

but hey, if u want sushang then go for it ig

[fair dawn]

idk i guess we will see with time 8.5 is still a long way

[vernal terrace]

Little under a month

[spiral raven]

well you def will see less usage of your fav teams, because that's the general trend of the game, but that isn't to say they won't see no usage at all, from time to time there will be, i am just saying, you get less mileage in general for pulling older valks and backpulling which obviously only really matters if you care, but it is what it is

[fair dawn]

okay ty

[willow wedge]

I wanted to ask is it worth rolling for any of the new dkeys if we don't have the valks? So HoHe latest bow for example, if I don't have her and dont want her is it still worth getting her weapon when it reruns? Or HoS new one?

[crude cloak]

1. Brick is too old to rerun ||(it also will be available from the spending event next patch)||
2. Not really, without the proper valk you're paying up to 17k crystals for just +10 ATK

[willow wedge]

Oof. True. Best to wait for opportunities it comes back as a reward or for free?

Also, is there a way to get the XY sword? Coz now I've noticed some of the older dkeys aren't even in Reserve Works 🥲

[crude cloak]

Ye

[crude cloak]

||Same as Brick, there will be a dkey box in the spending event from which you can choose one of a couple of dkeys||

||It's best to keep the box until you have only 1 option left though unless you alr are able to stay in Nirvana for a notable length of time||

[crude cloak]

||You'll need to spend ~22k iirc||
You can check the details in #🔮cn-gameplay-discussion pins

[willow wedge]

Thanks, will do! Guess it'll take me a while to collect all of them

[crude cloak]

Yeah, that'll defo take a long while (unless you're buying BPs ig, that can speed things up)

[willow wedge]

This game loves making you spend lol truly, gacha's finest

[crude cloak]

But you need time to max Dorm anyway

[crude cloak]

And you can't speed that up much by spending

[willow wedge]

I'm so close! Lvl 43, just two more lvls and I'm 7 points away from maxing points from a rank valks so I'm so annoyed haha

[crude cloak]

Ah, thought you're a bit newer

Well, 44th is the last one that matters

[willow wedge]

Oh? Duly noted. I'm 3 points away from lvl 44 so I'll stop worrying about it once I rank up Coralie

[willow wedge]

I'm just not good at the game lol

[crude cloak]

lvl 45 only gives ele resist, and defensive stats don't matter much

[willow wedge]

Makes sense, at least I can stop frag farming and start collecting proper materials

[normal crane]

Any tip for the 3rd? Currently too poor for Li Sushang 😢😢😢

[spiral raven]

start with spending wisely

[normal crane]

Are u mocking me

[steady osprey]

pull weap

[spiral raven]

^
no genuinely, because its clear u dont pull wisely, u should be trying to get weap + char together

if ur srs about this game at all

[normal crane]

Yes, i do plan to get the weapon. I’m just curious if there’s any good tip for the 3rd

[spiral raven]

what you mean by good tip for the 3rd

[normal crane]

like anything to replace peregrine sword

[spiral raven]

oh, well you have ely and fws

they both are symbiosis assuming u meant helia lead

[normal crane]

ye

[quasi pier]

does ely have her dkey

it doesn't look like she does

[spiral raven]

oh true, well in that case, use coralie ig

[open bone]

If she doesn’t you should grab coralie from part 2 story yeah

[normal crane]

Alright

oh i do have the dkey. Just not equipped

[spiral raven]

then thats ur team

[quasi pier]

oh cool, that's the team

[normal crane]

alr thx ya’ll

[fading light]

tyvm!!

[olive flicker]

Actually what is the concept of “resin” in hi3? In genshin and hsr we hop on everyday to use our “stamina” kind of thing on different “relics” and “materials”.

How about in hi3? I feel like the stamina system is only for doing storyline. What else can I do?

[spiral raven]

u can do some expeditions and adventure tasks that's about it, its useless here

[red plank]

material stages and expeditions use stamina and also open world tasks use stamina

besides story ig

[olive flicker]

ohhh okay thx

[red plank]

np

[olive flicker]

I only unlocked the seele expedition thing

[spiral raven]

it's like a min a day if there's nothing else to do

[red plank]

you need to clear all expeditions manually to unlock all the other ones in the dorm expeditions

[spiral raven]

if there's events, sometimes it has stuff time gated + daily stage for a particular resource , so reserve a week to hop into the event and do everything there (like the event daily

[red plank]

um did you reply in the wrong channel?

or did you forget to ping

[spiral raven]

its called old man's weird line of thinking

[red plank]

[spiral raven]

i went from stamina usage to daily time consumption

[red plank]

kek

[crude cloak]

Was crystal income before ER dropped lower in general? Or did you get those crystals in another way(s)?

[dusty dagger]

Was lower

Generally they don't remove crystal sources, only add them

Otherwise people would be madge lol

[full trench]

im imagining no er with p1 banners that sounds horrible

[dusty dagger]

I mean it's only an extra 500 a week

Over 1 patch that's just 10 pulls

Not really gonna be the difference between you full gearing a p1 s rank or not

[full trench]

spoken like a true 🐳

[dusty dagger]

It's literally true

It's not as if 10 extra would make or break your valk

Extra 10 pull or not you'd just skip most s ranks

Unless it was anni or something

[formal wigeon]

until you realize they used that extra income as an excuse to release more stuff

costing you way more than what extra you gained

there was just less stuff to pull for before that (and farmable stuff was top tier)

[boreal eagle]

is all balanced u have the illusion to get enough but to have enough u need to whale pretty smart strategy

[supple thunder]

it feels like i'm definitely using this character wrong

[scarlet pebble]

nah the bellla stage is just evade spam

[supple thunder]

i see
so what, just try and stay as far from the dragon as possible until the laser is charged?

[scarlet pebble]

what chapter is that again?

[supple thunder]

chapter 7
i've beat the whole chapter i just need that one "don't get stunned 5 times" medal

[scarlet pebble]

ok

[crude cloak]

Stay far away from it when it's icy

That way you won't get sucked into the tornado

[crude cloak]

And I mean very far

[supple thunder]

he's jumping across the whole map to stomp me while my dodge is on cooldown

[formal wigeon]

you can always dodge, the cooldown is just for the extra bonus skill you get for it

and you do be using her wrong too but that doesn't change much

[supple thunder]

no but like
i'll dodge and he hits me the second the animation ends

also now he's just randomly bypassing my dodge entirely

[formal wigeon]

you need to not spam the basic atk, wait for a visual/sound cue on her and atk at this time so she'll do extra dmg (and doing this twice in a row makes the next hold atk do more dmg too)

[formal wigeon]

Oh like this, yeah that's just learning what the boss doss tbh to time it right

It's the only somewhat difficult thing to complete in the entire story, you can just leave it like that and come back later too

[supple thunder]

how do i use her

there was a little popup when i started the level that said "tap and hold x to activate eclipse mode" or something but it didn't work when i tried that

[neon narwhal]

hold ult when you have >60 sp

after that just keep spamming ult button, or basic atk twice and ult button twice repeat

basic atk x 3 + ult x3 also works

[crude cloak]

Isn't the ora ora the last one

That's the only good sequence I think

[neon narwhal]

for that fight everything works, even random inputs as long as you've entered ult once so I wanted to keep it simple

[supple thunder]

is this another "dodge and wait for the superweaon" level like with the dragon
because there is NO chance i'll be able to get the "don't get stunned 5 times" badge while directly attacking it

[supple thunder]

alright so
bronya's whole thing is just "hold attack as long as possible", right?

[crude cloak]

Gotta learn the attack patterns, I don't think anyone mentioned struggling with this stage

[crude cloak]

If she's using a laser yes

Otherwise you charge up and release

[supple thunder]

how tf do i dodge this

nvm i beat her

[soft bane]

comin back after a long break how copium is p1 trio with hofi dkey rn

[spiral raven]

well flower was ran recently relatively speaking in terms of patches, so i doubt you ever see trio in abyss not until after a long time

and the old kevin boss is dominated by p2 teams

[soft bane]

damn

any recs on who to pull? i got more units but these ar eprobably the most relevant ones

[vernal terrace]

RS mainly

[spiral raven]

it just depends on your funds

[soft bane]

i got like 3k but i just came back so i prob got alot to farm

[spiral raven]

there's 2 kevin bosses, one is the destruction so rs, but there's another one before him, and that was resonance team

[vernal terrace]

Resonance-

[spiral raven]

world star/resonance

[vernal terrace]

Is the other one typeless?

[spiral raven]

yes

[vernal terrace]

So opposite of Otto?

[spiral raven]

otto had multiple versions too

both typeless and imaginary

[spiral raven]

I'd just save

[vernal terrace]

Haven't seen the IMG yet

Nor haven't even seen a Kevin in abyss

[spiral raven]

i mean ur too new

[soft bane]

ok

[vernal terrace]

True

[soft bane]

old teams sure did fall off hard

actually

i could get the rate up valk rn, 11 till guarantee

but broke for gear

[spiral raven]

but u know u need to guarantee weap right

[soft bane]

yea 😔

[spiral raven]

yea and also 8.4 mini spending and its breach valk

and then 8.5 is anniv with big spending

[soft bane]

what we in rn
8.3?

[spiral raven]

yea

[soft bane]

ok

[open bone]

I haven’t been around enough to be in a spending event before, what does that actually cash out to in terms of what we do to maximize bonuses

[spiral raven]

spend crystals, get tokens, tokens can be used to exchange items like mats or some other stuff like elf frags

there's also milestones, like spending up to x amount get skin for free

[vernal terrace]

Sometimes a Valkyrie too

[open bone]

Oh just crystals, not money

Cool, okay

[spiral raven]

in the past, its always been spend around 30k for the milestones, up to a cap of around 60k or 70k for extra tokens i forgot

[vernal terrace]

8.1 was the last one

[obtuse lintel]

Ayo wtf i didnt know i could run out of this things 😭😭😭

[open bone]

lol

[obtuse lintel]

Are they giving less?

Or they gave a lot at the beggining and now is when we run out of these? 😭

[open bone]

how long have you been playing? but yeah afaik you get less each week than you can use each week so you're encouraged to do at least some of your things for real

you can still skip most things regularly

[abstract pond]

If you never skipped events you should not run out of it. They're giving more of it lately from the events too

[obtuse lintel]

I dont remember skippong any event

[dusty dagger]

dude i still have like 2k

[spiral raven]

man idk how to dodge anything in this phase, laser always not target me, her feather always not target me, i dont rmb how to do anything anymore

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834003548014379009/1347797849307480095/723928477098573944.gif

[boreal eagle]

why u want to dodge something?

[spiral raven]

im using kia elf so i need ar to so

no ss sonk

[boreal eagle]

[spiral raven]

i forgot, is it ss sonk equal to kia elf for ws or not, but yeah

[mortal jetty]

Kiana elf> SS songque

[fierce crypt]

just don't use teri ult, she aims puppet

[spiral raven]

yea but that means id be 1 point slower or something if i dont use ult to finish

[fierce crypt]

ded

[spiral raven]

the funny part is soemtimes i get the evade off but its not 149/150 or 150/150, its 148/150 which is also ded

[fierce crypt]

use que ez

[spiral raven]

s rank que

[fierce crypt]

still working on your issue ig

[spiral raven]

i mean s rank que solves problem yea but i need dmg

[fierce crypt]

[analog swallow]

Washed fr

[soft bane]

I left for a year and everything's gone

[analog swallow]

New account with me, easy 4/4 for new Valk in just 1.5 weeks

[soft bane]

Nuh uh I got too much stuff in this account

[analog swallow]

Abandon your gods
-# the old trio

[soft bane]

Never

Plus I have p1 anni stuff

And other limited items

[crude cloak]

I don't think a new acc is the play here anyway

There's defo enough stuff to stay in RL, if you save until 8.5 it should be fine

[analog swallow]

[soft bane]

Oh I can stay in rl with this?

I thought I was just gonna chill in a3

[crude cloak]

I mean, you have multiple proper teams, that's more than enough

[soft bane]

More xtals lessgo

[crude cloak]

Assuming all the valks here are geared that is

[soft bane]

Gotta relearn all my rotations

[soft bane]

Most are 4/4 there's a few that are copium

[crude cloak]

Who's on copium?

[soft bane]

Hare, gardua, sena, horb

[crude cloak]

[soft bane]

I have 3/4 hare, 2/4 gardua, sena is bricked, horb has weap plus b stig

[analog swallow]

coffin convinced me to download hi3 for p2 then promptly took a long break

[soft bane]

[soft bane]

Iirc my main teams before I dipped was lv CE hotr, senti brick pomy horb, some thelema team (I forgot which), and trio

[analog swallow]

What did you miss for sena...?

[soft bane]

Weapon

I think I have her stigs acrually I forgot if they were free

[crude cloak]

All P2 stigs are craftable

[soft bane]

Oh yea

I have her stigs then

[crude cloak]

It was Thele Sena Coralie

[soft bane]

Ah Ye this

I'm also like 10 pulls till guarantee s rank, not sure who I should go for in 8.5

[crude cloak]

Anyway, you having HoFi dkey is very good

Defo improves your situation a lot

[soft bane]

Yeye

Did HoO get a dkey?

[crude cloak]

Nah, HoTr didn't either

[soft bane]

Rip

[analog swallow]

[crude cloak]

Well, we don't have any info about 8.5 yet, so

Except it being anni

[soft bane]

O

[crude cloak]

(rn we're in 8.3)

[soft bane]

Speaking of anni has there been any art books for global 🥀

[crude cloak]

v2 was the last one

[soft bane]

The last art book I remember was p1

[soft bane]

Damn

[analog swallow]

On average if completely f2p, about what is the xtal income if saving for the whole patch?

[crude cloak]

v3 was CN-only

[soft bane]

Smh

[soft bane]

There's a calculator somewhere iirc

[crude cloak]

~22k assuming RL and 9 weeks

[dusky mantle]

I see

[soft bane]

https://vgt789.github.io/Honkai-Crystal-calculator/

[crude cloak]

That's the bad one

[soft bane]

O

There's a new one?

[crude cloak]

Though the good one wasn't updated for the BP changes regardless afaik

[analog swallow]

Thank you both

[crude cloak]

There always was
Check #👶beginner-help pins

[soft bane]

Kk

[analog swallow]

Not checking pins 😔

[crude cloak]

Suggesting someone to restart when they shouldn't 😔

[soft bane]

[analog swallow]

you got me
Tbf, it was a joke because I know his account was loaded

[crude cloak]

[analog swallow]

There is a strong nostalgia factor too

[soft bane]

I need hoyo to give global more art book

I still have the v2 art book in original packaging

[crude cloak]

I couldn't resist opening it

[analog swallow]

@grim geode look who returned

[analog swallow]

As in..mm unopened and you didn't even look inside?

[crude cloak]

It is of very high quality from what I've seen (tbf I'm not an artbook expert at all)

[analog swallow]

Generally I find that hoyoverse printed official merchandise, especially high tier offerings like art books or similar special boxes are very high quality

[soft bane]

I looked at it thru my friends artbook

[analog swallow]

They do put a lot of care into it in the small details and add ons

[analog swallow]

Do your checkin as well: #homu-playground

[soft bane]

What is that

[grim geode]

no thank u i have a life <3

[crude cloak]

It's automatic lah

Gotta set it up once and that's it

[grim geode]

wait is it really

[soft bane]

O

Just do the /checkin?

[crude cloak]

Just check the pins in the channel

Give them a proper read

[soft bane]

K

[analog swallow]

I am not beating the not reading pins allegations I'll set mine up as well

[soft bane]

Oh BTW is hi3 easier on pc or mobile

[grim geode]

i had discord linked for a while now

[crude cloak]

Should be about the same if we're talking about more casual play

[grim geode]

idk why it doesnt automatically check me in

[crude cloak]

If we're talking hypersweating PC is better

[crude cloak]

(the gap depends on your devices though)

[crude cloak]

Assuming you can at least 90 FPS here

And it's not like you have to choose necessarily

[soft bane]

Okok

[crude cloak]

Unless you're a Steam player, but in that case you're stuck to PC anyway

[half hatch]

~~do we consider steam deck a PC ? ~~

[crude cloak]

Well, it sure as shit ain't Android or iOS

[analog swallow]

Actually my discord is linked as well but it has never auto checked in

[half hatch]

Sometimes discord is funny like that

[crude cloak]

Mobile supremacy?

[analog swallow]

[half hatch]

~~Not like I can check in anyway kek so I can't share my own experience ~~

[pale palm]

Is this what am I supposed to use

[half hatch]

Use hofi instead of sena

[crude cloak]

Do you know how to properly proc resos on HoFi?

(it's not just 5 basics)

It's A evade AA evade AA

[spiral raven]

btw is t here such thing for sp;arkle

[pale palm]

and it would have been helpful to use the correct buffs 😆

[crude cloak]

[half hatch]

Faster reso trigger ? None that I'm aware of

[crude cloak]

Never heard of that, refs just try to whiff some reso procs in the transition or smth if damage is not an issue

[spiral raven]

guess i also need to mald sparkle not get interrupted for reso trigger if i want any increase

[crude cloak]

Not talking about this boss specifically here

[spiral raven]

wow

[spiral raven]

as soon as i said this

i can sleep yay

[pale palm]

I did so many mistakes and still scored above 800

[spiral raven]

yeah ik, but my sparkle kept getting interrupted by vita when she reso procs
was hoping theres some ways to do it so that i dont need to sufferr, but i got it the next run so

[crude cloak]

Yeah, makes sense

[spiral raven]

hope 825 is enough to squeeze into myriad

[mortal jetty]

Is it SS sparkle ?

[spiral raven]

no im s0

teri spark thel pretty standard

last time i did this as well

standard team standard rot standard score

last time clutched 90 something

[primal trail]

is this team ok for sampo or should i change it?

[spiral raven]

no helia? that team will not do well

[misty pike]

What’s the team for flux lantern

[primal trail]

sadly no

she's not really that interesting to me

any suggestion tho?

[spiral raven]

ps fws lp

so sushang badum vita

do you have that

[primal trail]

not sushang.....

that's why im using hoo

the best fast atk valk i have ig

[spiral raven]

well hoo isn't fit for it, and i cant rmb sampo having mechanics requiring fast atks

he has no hit count checks here

not that hoo would be any good at it

but in your case you'll just have to see whatever best p2 team you can come up with and use that ig

[primal trail]

that's all i have from p2

and both hofi + hohe dk

[digital sky]

Curious....is new helias wep better than vbs weapon for vbs dps?

[spiral raven]

then you just have to cook something with badum/hohe/vita i guess for sampo

im not sure about how well would other p2 teams but loa general does better in just brute forcing ma

[primal trail]

how abt his paralyze trauma mechanic?

[spiral raven]

I don't think he has a particular mechanic like that for the ma version

idk, didn't pay too much attention to the boss, but don't recall paralyze trauma being important, his transition is just hitting the things when they match

[primal trail]

oh yea

he's different from his superstring version

[spiral raven]

probs sushang helia vita

[misty pike]

alr thanksss

[coral basalt]

can someone tell me

whats too many operations mean

ive just reinstalled hi3

and im getting a error message

[dusty dagger]

try #🔌technical-help

[surreal citrus]

Is there a way I can get more than 810 on this? Everyone is S0, Songque S0 too

[digital sky]

Is there any scenarios where SS DreamSeeker is better than S0 Songqueop/Teriop/Sera?

[boreal eagle]

https://youtu.be/4yBSV13SMho

[eager smelt]

too late they already fixed their score in #🎮honkai-chat

[pale musk]

What's a Nirv retainable score for this abyss, I'm getting about 795.

[eager smelt]

dont u have teri

[weak drum]

@lapis raven helia ps hohe sss sampo ref plz

[lapis raven]

https://m.bilibili.com/video/BV1mogYzUEWd

[weak drum]

wuv u

[lapis raven]

wuv u more

[lapis raven]

https://tenor.com/view/hololive-ホロライブ-hologra-ホロぐら-hoshimachi-suisei-gif-24431070

[pale musk]

that is my score w/Teri

[eager smelt]

get at least 815

[pale musk]

kk

[pale musk]

found ur old vid, ty

main issue is AR farming I think cause it takes me a bit to SO

[cold acorn]

hi sorry if this is a dumb question but might anyone know whats causing the slow movement speed and sp loss in this stage? i cant finish it and i cant use ult while the stage is buffing ult

it starts as the map starts, before enemies can hit me

[digital sky]

Can you show what stigs you have on your hb?

[cold acorn]

oh

its the B stigmata HAHAHA

[digital sky]

Sloth B

[cold acorn]

thank you 🫡🫡

[digital sky]

Thats what i thought it was lol

[digital sky]

Np, dont be afraid to ask!

[dusk harness]

this card is scam, it reduce your hp by a certain amount then heal it again like your durability dont increase at all lol

[boreal eagle]

is op

[dusky mantle]

Great card you mean

[vernal terrace]

Pretty good card

[wicked mason]

is Songque AstralOP not worth it anymore?

[vernal terrace]

Likely isn't.

So yeah-

[eager smelt]

never was

mid on release
useless now

[wicked mason]

but she's waifu?

[crude cloak]

||And if you were to pull an AO no matter what, it's probably best to go for Chenxue||

[crude cloak]

||Though it does look like she wants SS a lot||

[vernal terrace]

Don't most Aop's want SS?

[crude cloak]

Teri is still very good for LoA at S
Sera is still solid

[vernal terrace]

Ah

[spiral raven]

just depends on how sweaty is ur server

and ur goals ofc

[crude cloak]

Teri does want SS for RoO

And SS on Sera is still very nice

[spiral raven]

roo its just || chenxue || anything else cope rly

[wicked mason]

do we know if Chenxue is viable

[spiral raven]

what you mean viable

[crude cloak]

Spoiler tags

[spiral raven]

[crude cloak]

Anyway, ||she should be very strong in GoI at SS||

[vernal terrace]

||Saw her SS skills||

[crude cloak]

||At S she's meh from what I've seen||

[vernal terrace]

||Still decent though at S||

[crude cloak]

||Not 100% sure about RoO tho||

[crude cloak]

||Is she? No ARI regen (only initial), no SP regen||

[crude cloak]

Essentially the main reasons to get an AO

[vernal terrace]

||I mean- yeah true-, also for RoO you get 36 ARI back after SO ends||

[vernal terrace]

||SS||

[half hatch]

||from what i can see she has SP regen at S already or did she have some major kit changes from v3e to live||

[crude cloak]

Oh, did I misread smth?

[half hatch]

that's my source

as said this is v3e so this may not be completly up to date but i doubt they made that big of a change this late

[crude cloak]

||Oh, does SS increase the regen?||

iirc it was 200

[vernal terrace]

||Yeah it's 200 for SS||

[half hatch]

i don't see anything like that here but i'd rather get CN screenshots to confirm

huh where

oh i see

[crude cloak]

Yeah, makes sense then, thx

[vernal terrace]

Yeah that

||Seems like an extra amount of SP actually-||

[half hatch]

|| one is free SP once So starts and the other one is related to teammates ulting ||

[vernal terrace]

Not bad actually

[half hatch]

||honestly you can prob skip 1 whole support with that ||

|| you should still get enoug shining trace for 3 face of infinitude even when you only ult on PS for example ||

[dusty dagger]

no wonder she was the only aop with a 50% discount on 1 10 pull

[half hatch]

||probably situational if you want 3/3 faces of infinitude before 4x PAWS ult or if you don't need that dmg ||

[vernal terrace]

||Feel like 3rd slot with PAWS and BFDD could be swapped around depending on boss||

[dusty dagger]

that is an atrocious abbreviation we are not using that

[vernal terrace]

XD

[half hatch]

dafuq

why is beta survey so short

no email

how they gonna contact me

[dusty dagger]

they won't

i asked them not to

[half hatch]

[vernal terrace]

I gave mine

[half hatch]

wow this is new

so that's why

[vernal terrace]

Rip steam

[half hatch]

normally they'd just give you a burner account

[dusty dagger]

bro plays on steam

point and laugh

[half hatch]

started by accident there and now im too deep

i still don't understand why they can give me burner beta accounts with my data but won't transfer my data to a hoyo account

[crude cloak]

Huh
I did get the question asking about the email

Also, they mention every time that Steam mfs can't participate

[half hatch]

huh

normally they'd still at least ask me about my email

maybe they just changed that

idk i still have normal accounts i'll just try to get in with those

[fickle elbow]

Question: what’s the difference between Quantum Collapse and Quantum Implosion

[spiral raven]

u look under the hp bar of quantum enemies and they may have purple diamonds, while those are lit, enemies take less dmg etc, you can use certain atks that essentially turns t hose lights off, and oh, its alr answered

[dusty dagger]

LOL

[rigid cedar]

what? they had an email field for me

before the open ended suggestion field

nvm i should backread more

[normal cloak]

Exalted MA Refs for 07/29/2025 - 08/02/2025 [Invite Link Here](#💁gameplay-help message)
Sprout of Wishing [SSS]: https://discord.com/channels/1353576258038005760/1353588240032075797
Rimestar [SSS]: https://discord.com/channels/1353576258038005760/1353589045321662484
Shadow Knight: https://discord.com/channels/1353576258038005760/1353589257901445170

[naive shoal]

is there a diverging paths priority guide

[strange raft]

What’s the best team against this abyss?

Sparkle badum vita?

[neon narwhal]

bottom > left == right > up iirc

[mortal jetty]

Teri sparkle thelema

If no teri
Sparkle vita badum

[rigid cedar]

how come thelema is good, vita too squishy?

[mortal jetty]

Slow

[rigid cedar]

i meant the abyss boss vita

[mortal jetty]

You mean thelema dps?

[rigid cedar]

no the teri team you mentioned

[eager smelt]

yes

[rigid cedar]

i thought thelema buffs are a bit low compared to other options

[lapis raven]

speed vs dmg

[rigid cedar]

alright

[lapis raven]

dont need dmg so go speed

[rigid cedar]

so thelema is the fastest

[lapis raven]

thats also why ppl precast like half of sparkles atks before p2

[lapis raven]

technically hfi

[rigid cedar]

that I understand

[rigid cedar]

then why isnt she picked

[lapis raven]

but thel has timestop

[lapis raven]

and type down

[eager smelt]

because she doesnt have free stellar drain and u need to ring really early

[rigid cedar]

and fws reso buff?

now I kinda wish i could test that, but even if i was nirvana i dont have teri

[mortal jetty]

Fws is weird with teri

[lament prairie]

Hello chat

If anyone can think of any embedded FAQs (i.e., sent from Ai-chan in that funny box) that need updating let me know I lost track but have some time this week

[boreal eagle]

asking for work

[lapis raven]

u can work on my abyss and ma for me @ lyo

[strange raft]

Why thelema?

Wait nvrm, I just read the convo

[lament prairie]

That's not a faq smh

[remote thorn]

Hello! What team would you advice to build for starless weather? I started on p2, so i lack all s valks that are not into war treasury.

[round arch]

just use p2 valks to brute force atp

[full trench]

you should still use a p2 team except maybe on starless sk if you already have horb and enough stig reso/foundry mats to build everyone, someone else can probably elaborate more

[remote thorn]

That’s what I’ve been doing so far, but I’m dropping redlotus barely everytime. And i have a ton of asterite and exchange shop currencies saved up

[full trench]

do you have jds

[remote thorn]

Jds let me find back the glossary quick XD

[round arch]

most of the starless weathers are very easy to brute force w LOA teams if ur in redlotus. If I can do it in Nirvana, you sure can do the same in rl

[remote thorn]

Nop, ill get her when she drops in bp i think

[full trench]

dont bother i just mentioned her bc shes a decent p1 dps

[formal wigeon]

you'll never be able to build up a P1 team that could do better than p2 bruteforce atp without investing too much money into it

and it's not something that happens often enough to warrant that considering every starless weather shills a very different type of valk

[remote thorn]

I’ll keep trying to improve my use of those teams then, i thought i could ease up the grind since i have tons of useless foundry materials haha

[remote thorn]

I see, you cannot build something decent purely from foundry and shop, correct? Even sss support valks with reccomended gear wont do the job?

[formal wigeon]

ye, most of the good gears are still gacha only (and just don't run anymore)

And core supports are still not accessible either (like HTR and HRB)

[full trench]

starless sk would be kind of doable if you had everything since its 2 p2 valks + spending event valk with exchange shop gear but anything else not really, whether it's even worth it is suspicious

[formal wigeon]

so you can do an ok patchwork team that could work for like, SS MA because your other stuff is taken

but nothing that would be strong enough to beat a proper P2 team even on starless

[remote thorn]

I see thank you 😊

[digital sky]

Weeks 5<->Week 8

5 hours late bute wtv

[open bone]

Is hofi available in reserve works or something? I saw ||her DKey is running next patch|| and was considering it as an option for if I get 8.4 valk early and still have spending thresholds to go

[vernal terrace]

||Next patch she and her old gear will be permanently added to the BP||

[open bone]

Ty

[vernal terrace]

[atomic kite]

if i only have bleedshang stigma set but no weapon, does it still make her usuable as a support only

[crude cloak]

Yes, but I'm not sure how she compares to other options in that case

Assuming you don't need utility specific to her ofc

[open bone]

Iirc missing her weapon means missing like 40% of her damage? So probably even in her shill weather she’s not best in slot in your roster, paws has the same type if nothing else, so nothing other than support for sure. If you don’t have a good roster she’ll certainly be better for supporting paws than say bolstorm but if you have a good roster otherwise it’s harder to say

[jovial bison]

guys got any link rots for sena abyss (vita sea depths)? can't seem to find it on billibilli

[eager smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR6UZBlWL9w

[shell quail]

sellout

wait no, wrong word

rat propaganda fits better

[jovial bison]

ty

[fierce crypt]

503d

[jovial bison]

I just got demoted to A3, so no problemo

[dusky mantle]

785 huh

[eternal forge]

Can someone help me with herrscher of Human:ego build?

[open bone]

What do you need help with specifically?

[half hatch]

There's not really an "alternative build" unless you're a beginner it's flawless benediction + solon or just bench her

If you're a beginner refer to the HoHe build in here

[eternal forge]

Thank you :D

[eternal forge]

If I can't get flawless benediction atm then is elysia+ domain of ego still good?

[full trench]

no

i mean depends on what you mean by good ig

definitely not worth getting and it won't ever be competitive in abyss or ma

[eternal forge]

SO I just have to wait till flawless beendiction is back on the supply?

[full trench]

yeah

not a good pull but you can get it if you want

even though she doesn't have many weathers the +10 atk is always going to be useful at least

[eternal forge]

I see

[open bone]

And she can also support some new ops for the next bit, at least until you get some better options. It’s anyone’s guess when it’ll rerun tho

[neon narwhal]

try #🔌technical-help

[feral venture]

okty

[narrow bear]

hey guys
can you please tell me how to clear these life simulator event tasks?

[open bone]

You can get items for doing tasks in life simulator, like say meeting helia (go to park as second action). These items then say “is useful for event X” and if you do that event you get to spend them

900 points is just a matter of picking the choices that give bigger stat buffs

First pin should be your friend

[narrow bear]

thanks for the tips!

[narrow bear]

can't get 900 points even with the guide x_x

[open bone]

What starting items did you bring?

Uh, I thought the pin would be enough but what I did in my first 900 run was grab both of the increase while traveling items and then pick lots of traveling options

[narrow bear]

perfect ara and kissy

[open bone]

You want to pick choices that give you items, and then use those items

Ideally

[narrow bear]

yeah, a lot of random is involved though

[open bone]

Yeah some

Makes it a bit harder for me to just scout out a route for tou

But in general I think roving + a bit of luck will get you there if you continually pick the options that give larger stat bonuses

[narrow bear]

thanks, got it

[sacred cape]

Any 6S one run kind of abyss ref? thanks

[dark phoenix]

need ref without QUA

[deep wharf]

Guys, I need help.
I returned about 3-4 months ago and in desperate need of a physical damage.

What is my best option?

[open bone]

Next gacha phys valk is reign Solaris, and that’s a) not for 8 weeks or so and b) she’ll be 4 patches old then

Your best option is probably just to ignore it and brute force things whenever a phys stage comes up

If you don’t have any rn

[spiral raven]

is up to u in the end, picking up from where you are and then slowly work towards p2 valks is not impossible just takes a lot longer than if you had just restarted

[vast lagoon]

How can be nirvana's D lower than in 8.1 (541 vs 542) and moreover me doing significantly LOWER dmg with THE SAME team on the same boss with the same weather? direct boss HP and resist adjustment powercreep?

[spiral raven]

d isn't monotonic increasing

so it can be lower

but if u do less dmg you might wanna record urself

maybe ur messing up somewhere

[thick aspen]

d also just affect boss hp no

[spiral raven]

or check gears

[thick aspen]

you should do same damage always

[spiral raven]

yea

[mortal jetty]

If you are doing less damage than last time you are probably doing something wrong

[lapis raven]

one cycle in advance

[marsh field]

Not sure if I should ask here, but in the current life event, I still need the self improvement mission. Anyone know what counts as self improvement?

[crude cloak]

Afaik it's Improve Stamina, Study Art and the other 2 while you're being a student

[solar arrow]

What a dammmnn game, I wish they could give us craft all part 1 stigma 🗿

[half hatch]

they will with time

[solar arrow]

I have adult Griseo weapon but not have stigma, lmao

[marsh field]

Thanks, that was it!

[steady osprey]

they are "selling" p1 gears in reserve shop

(if u wanna get them fast, u buy BP

or u can go slow, 5 f2p balls each 2 months

[vast lagoon]

was there a bug with activating ba-dum's buffs by attacking the floor? first i just repeated what i saw, then i thought there is some kind of that mechanic, then i thought i just didn't read her equip and it actually "worked" only in teams with her leadership (as buffs should be active in this case without doing anything, actually)

[half hatch]

her activating her buffs with her CA isnt a bug

it's mentioned in her 3pc

[vast lagoon]

with hitting no enemies?

[half hatch]

no it has to hit

and there is no bug where it activates without that to my knowledge

[torpid torrent]

Finally encountered 1 bad bug sampo under me.....

[half hatch]

sampo now 6 feet under i guess

[torpid torrent]

Sheesh restart ig...

[fair bough]

If I buy 2 monthly cards will those crystals count towards this thing
Or is it too good to be true

[half hatch]

it will give some progress but it only counts as 330 crystals afaik

[steady osprey]

yeah monthly only count as 330 not 3300

[fair bough]

Damn
What about 1380 bchips + battlepass? Will those 2000 crystals from battlepass count?

[half hatch]

no

it's about how much you top up

[fair bough]

Aw man

[vast lagoon]

here sparkle at 0:15 has ba-dum's buffs. i checked it by repeating with proper CA now and the damage is almost exactly the same (obviously, vita doesn't give ulti buffs here and there are no other possibilities). how has she activated it here? and repeating it now doesn't give buffs

i have a feeling it was fixed with 8.2 but don't see it in a patch note

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDnFqfkhvc8

[steady osprey]

it only count how much u paid haha

[fair bough]

I guess that was too good to be true

Ok another question
Which of HoO's stigmas is the least important? I know that they're all super important but which one is the most replaceable

[half hatch]

depends on where she's used

but generally TM cez B should be okay ish

[mortal jetty]

Normally not

[half hatch]

just know that you won't be able to propperly compete with that since most trios are 6s by now

[mortal jetty]

Tm cezanne b is for niche strat

We used it rarely

[half hatch]

yuh but it's still the second best option from what i know

even for trio

and HoO dps stigmatas are all over the place anyway

zhenyi tb schro m, benares tm cez b etc.

very situational

[half hatch]

tbh i have no idea maybe someone else knows more

[mortal jetty]

It was a bug

[vagrant finch]

In the event what do I need to do to become a battlesuit researcher?

[half hatch]

check out the docs in pins it's mentioned there

[steady osprey]

battlesuit researcher need high INT and STR

keep ur INT the highest stat

after getting it u can "quit the round". still count as 1 run for 7 runs and still get 2 starting gears

job requirement as in the excel sheet

there is a threshold for stat requirement. i think its higher than 150 after school phase, maybe?

[lapis raven]

j*b

[zealous minnow]

I have to give up? No Sparkle no 21700?

[arctic spoke]

Hi, with what we can beat Vita if no QUA?