general-feedback-discussion

[normal shuttle]

what if canni humans just yell slurs and bad things

[limber hull]

cool, good for them

either i'll kill them fast or they'll kill me fast

[plucky plank]

This.

You can't go through life basing all decisions on "what-if" considerations.

[limber hull]

regardless, i'll stop hearing it pretty fast

[normal shuttle]

what if there's someone who wants to make it last

[limber hull]

one of us is dying in that room

[normal shuttle]

well

[limber hull]

idc who it is

[normal shuttle]

fair enough

[plucky plank]

Based 🤣

[limber hull]

frankly, i invite them to

the idea of someone yelling slurs for attention, only to be mauled to death by the animal that heard him screaming from a mile away sounds hysterical

[plucky plank]

To be fair, this is actually most likely exactly what would happen.

A loud human would be as enticing to predators as a juvie spamming 1 calls

[normal shuttle]

I will do it because I get the pass for at least two slurs

and I will survive against any animal

[normal shuttle]

vc banshees vs fresh spawn dibble

who wins

[woeful latch]

you will probably be able to disable vc, i'd image there will also be "calls" like dinos have

but just for the quick chat between humans

[limber hull]

im out here with the highly controversial take that human text chat shouldnt exist

[woeful latch]

hm..

[plucky plank]

Not unless they all have pagers, anyway

[limber hull]

true

[woeful latch]

i dont even know how text chat should work for humans? will it just be a bubble above their head?

[normal shuttle]

I had the idea of

1 call = loud shout
2 call = chuckle
3 call = angry growling
4 call = high pitch scream
f call = "hmm yeah"

[limber hull]

it shouldnt

theres no good immersive way to do it imho

[woeful latch]

yeah.. i guess

maybe using in game phone and group chat LMAO

for people who cant talk

[normal shuttle]

what about this

[normal shuttle]

^ cheesy, dont you like this?

[plucky plank]

IG FB messenger pings when a text chat comes through 🤣

[woeful latch]

f call should be "mmm cheesy"

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laughing-meme-gif-8665530932329511839

[latent olive]

PDAs coming with an Apollo engineering version of discord

[woeful latch]

real

[normal shuttle]

"Islecord"

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-sunken-place-movie-crying-gif-12561084

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-whore-gif-5145250

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-mmm-cheesy-cheese-cheesy-gif-19257011

[woeful latch]

i will... i will murder you..

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/taters-haters-gonna-hate-gif-5810229

[gusty flax]

#general-feedback message @normal shuttle u can legit say this about any game

[normal shuttle]

man

I should have said something more immediate

I just remembered how absolutely abysmal it is to have alt attacks enabled by default on new players

[ashen shell]

you want me to make a suggestion?

[normal shuttle]

sure

[gilded drift]

Along with all of the other weird stuff you push, this must be the most ridiculous so far 😆

1call for humans instead of VOIP, yeah?
Okay guys

Gen tarzan imbound

Forget about rifles, choppers, structures or any of the sort

1calling tarzans instead, lets follow AVA's logic so we can push the game in the right direction!

[normal shuttle]

@ashen shell thx bro

[ashen shell]

np

[normal shuttle]

also, bruh, it was a proposal alongside what I added at the very end to bandaid the problem of slurs

[limber hull]

Bro it ain’t that deep just downvote and move on lol

[ashen shell]

i disagree with not having voice chat but i most definitely understand your point

[normal shuttle]

he's mad that I disliked the idea of a snow biome /j

[ashen shell]

fr grow tf up

[normal shuttle]

yeah, and tbf it's kind of a bad take anyway. But I won't remove it

I take the L

[limber hull]

I think it’s a bad idea but it ain’t that big of a deal lmao

[gilded drift]

Snow biome was a casual suggestion, it's not necessary for the game

[normal shuttle]

neither is voice chat for humans

[gilded drift]

I just like that y'all contradict yourselves and suddenly support realism when previously you don't

[limber hull]

VC isn’t necessary, but by GOD it’s something I REALLY want

[gilded drift]

It's necessary and will be added no matter what you feel about it

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message what

[ashen shell]

avaliant remember the medieval painting that risingmike made for that one dookie suggestion of 25 hour deino growth time

[normal shuttle]

I got responded in a feedback channel 😔

[normal shuttle]

so peak

[frank tapir]

haven't the devs said they're looking into adding an in-game reporting feature? That could be used pretty easily for voice chat as well

[gilded drift]

My response is a feedback to vc in itself

[ashen shell]

i'm gonna do it with the snow biome thing

[normal shuttle]

it's not necessary for the game, it would just be a good way to implement it

[gilded drift]

VC will bring a larger audience to the game, VOIP will be some people's reason of buying the game due to the extra fun

[normal shuttle]

"that's why YOU 🫵 have 17 downvotes! You should be ashamed of YOURself!"

[gilded drift]

It's necessary

[normal shuttle]

[limber hull]

I completely agree. I don’t think it’s necessary at all, but it improves every game I play with it in

[gilded drift]

It's necessary, humans will be more stale w/o it

[woeful latch]

the pieds guy strikes again

[gilded drift]

EVRIMA does need a larger and more varied audience, it's necessary

[limber hull]

I’m already bored

[normal shuttle]

tarantino but bad and not a film director

[limber hull]

Y’all play with him

[gilded drift]

The amount of clip and content-material is endless with VOIP, making it necessary

[woeful latch]

i’m bored too tbh

not even worth it

[frank tapir]

can someone please make a really interesting and discussion provoking suggestion

[woeful latch]

LMAO

[urban flax]

Scent rework

[normal shuttle]

oh I have one actually!

Monolophosaurus kit concept because it has been so forgotten by everyone

[woeful latch]

i got one… give beipi underwater pounce

[frank tapir]

yes to both

[covert tiger]

Exactly what others said above --- competition for food and territory will lead to rexes killing rexes anyway
When food is scarce, you will eat anything
9T animal will need a huge amount of food and there will be none to share.

You continue to be under the impression that if rex isn't a cannibal then we will see 5+ man rex groups but they will not survive.
You also say that cera and deino are spammed cause they are the strongest.
Well - isn't rex gonna be spammed cause it'll be the strongest? You think cannibalism will change this? If that was the case, cannibalism would stop cera and deino from being spammed and help with their population but it doesn't do that at all. You see huge cera groups walking around helping each other out.
Killing your own species has almost never been about getting a diet. Ppl who want to do it, do it anyway. Ppl who want to play any dino, will grow one anyway. Cannibalism is just a toxic reward for nothing.

[urban flax]

We need something that is similar to the old particle scent system but also able to provide more information and also less harsh on performance

[normal shuttle]

I wanted to suggest making it more interesting and deep than just having scent markers on people

[frank tapir]

I don't really see the point in that one

[woeful latch]

that was my very old suggestion a while ago, i really liked the idea but didnt get any support LMAO

i wonder why

[frank tapir]

maybe if they also let omnivores open bodies and take organs, but I don't really see much benefit in it as beipi currently is

[woeful latch]

nahh it was more about beipis forming packs and bleeding out deinos, that was a wild one for sure

[ashen shell]

particle scent system like in legacy with the mist coming off of the bodies? please no it would make things impossible to find if you're not super close to it

[ornate spade]

yeah except a game thats trying to be immersive and realistic not making T-Rex: the dinosaur that is a known cannibal IRL that we have the most evidence for it being a cannibal. making it NOT a cannibal seems dumb, and a Rex killing ANOTHER rex, isnt an easy feat, they SHOULD be rewarded for it, not just a pile of food that gives them spasms

[normal shuttle]

I think Monolophosaurus should be intel guy of the carnivore roster, as well as following this niche of a seemingly tireless hound

like maybe getting additional info out of stealth

[frank tapir]

2nd highest stam next to humans?

[ashen shell]

like what legacy dilo was with its insane night vision?

[normal shuttle]

no, I was thinking about something else

easier to balance, which would be that after spraying someone and for as long as it lasts, monolophosaurus got a stam drain buff or even a slight speed buff if it keeps moving in the direction of the target.

[covert tiger]

Except itll be extremely easy and have zero fun fighting
Look at deino - whoever gets the first bite wins
There's no way to win a fight or escape if someone else attacks you first because you both have the same speed and damage

[ornate spade]

yes players are gonna do what they want, but the game is incentivising a certain type of play, like no grouping with different species and no text chat to incentivise playying with your own species yet we still get mixpackers, theres nothing that can be done about that.

There will still be Rex's killing other Rex's either way yes, but its the same as a stego killing a stego... reaaaallly it shouldnt happen... because theres no gain for you risking your life in combat with another rex, when you can just go hunt elsewhere if food is scarce

[frank tapir]

that's interesting, and would fit better logically compared to other buffs we have in-game (cera body buff)

[normal shuttle]

lemme write the whole abilities concept I had. Will take a few minutes

[ornate spade]

yeah well thats what happens with mirror matchups, it is how it is, hopefully rex is faster than deino and more skill expressive

deino is only like that bc you cant run, and its a brain rot dino that cant dodge anything

poorly designed imo

[ashen shell]

deino shouldn't really have to dodge anything

[ornate spade]

yeah but its a cannibal and the fights between them are just facetanking or circle tailbiting in water

rex will be far more skill expressive with alt attacks, its special ability, and being somewhat fast on land

yes you will have the "i hit first so i can facetank" moment but that happens on stego, cera, and literally any other mirror matchups too

[urban flax]

No old evrima system with particles coming towards you from scentable objects

It was both clear, good looking and immersive, but it nuked performance

[barren crater]

While the isle is trying to be immersive. It isn't trying to be realistic to irl stuff.

[limber hull]

MY IDEA FOR MONO (forgive me on a phone)

Glue trap mono. Sneezes out a big sticky ass snot puddle. Depending on your weight, you can either be

Trapped, forced to waste stam to wiggle out
Slowed, allowing mono to catch up
Or simply just tracked, allowing mono to follow you

In all cases, the mono knows where you are, but this creates the unique trapper niche for monolophosaurus (somewhat inspired by both trapdoor mono and that one image of Dobby dying in a glue trap)

[normal shuttle]

(Copied what I was typing to paste it and continue now)

I read that a while ago and I was gonna add it

I wanna give mono 3 applications of its ability

[limber hull]

A look into my amazing game design process (I have a degree in game design btw)

[urban flax]

I like it

[junior nymph]

lol

[limber hull]

Thank you I spent one night thinking about it while laughing about hypsi dying in a glue trap

[barren crater]

should be permanent for tiny animals like hypsi

I just find the idea of trapping someone there until they starve being hilarious

I'd even sit near them and watch

[ornate spade]

Well there’s some aspect of realism there.

The dinosaurs with the exception of herra most dinosaurs are fairly accurate to real life.

[urban flax]

None of them are lol

Carno charges, irl it would break its neck
Same with pachy
Teno is basically twice its irl size with a weaponized tail
Beipi is 1/10th of its irl size and aquatic
Troodon is venomous
Omni didn't exist
Ptera has no feathers and skims for fish
Stego lacks armor, hovers above the ground and uses its tail like a scorpion
Cera has abilities that do not even exist in the animal kingdom
Dilo is venomous

Dibble is basically twice its irl size

[modest dock]

Except we don't actually know if they actually hunted other adults rex or simply eated already dead rexes. To me, best option is to make rex able to eat other rexes but not having the diets coming from it. Cera is a cannibal in game but it doesn't prevent it from being over populated.

[normal shuttle]

Monolophosaurus conceptual stats and abilities

Weight: 250kg
Speed: 47kph
Stamina runtime: 2:45
Stamina regen: 2:00
Bite Force: 35
Jumping height: slightly less than pachy
Agility: similar to omni if not slightly inferior
Scent range: 1200m
Bleed resist: 0

Moveset
Lmb - bite
Alt+lmb - omnidirectional bite
Rmb - mucus spray

PASSIVE: can smell while running (40kph top speed)

Mucus spray
Monolophosaurus sprays a large amount of mucus in the direction where it’s facing and with a maximum range of 4 meters. When looking directly downward, it sprays the floor or corpses right beneath the dinosaur, whereas looking anywhere else will cause it to shoot forward in a cone shape, sticking to anyone that is in contact with it.

They work with charges. Mono has four which recharge faster when shot at the floor within 20 seconds, whereas those shot at players regen after 90 seconds.

• Trap setup: Due to its extremely sticky and dense nature, this substance can remain on the floor for a few minutes, until someone touches it or too many traps are placed in a short time, replacing the older with newer ones.

Stepping on it works almost like a glue trap, drastically reducing the speed of some targets like a dryo or herra to by around 10-15% for about 30 seconds while creating a silhouette of them that can be seen through walls when smelling. In the case of things like Omnis, it would be about 5%, and then smaller critters like hypsi or troodon simply end up trapped there.

• Masking scent: the mucus can be used to permanently mask the scent of smaller corpses and some organs too, as a somewhat reverse version of ceratosaurus’ vomit, allowing you to be more subtle or maybe even slightly lengthening their time to expire for just a few minutes.

• Pursuit: When shooting it at someone, the duration of the tracking extends to 90 seconds, where you can see their silhouette while sniffing, and when running towards the target you get a boost to your stamina runtime.

[ornate spade]

I mean a lot of that is debated topics, ptera having feathers isn’t scientifically proven, just a theory, there’s not much of a way to prove that cera DIDNT have bacteria in its bite, this DOES exist in the animal kingdom plenty of bites can make you very sick the human bite being one of the worst for it

[frank tapir]

did you mean to post it here?

[proper bluff]

guys like lets be real what will you hunt as a rex when it arrives? on all hordetests there will be only rexes, how do you expect to grow? rex needs to be a canni, atleast for the hordetest time, after the hype goes down devs could de-canni him

[ornate spade]

Things like ptera weight, troodon weight are very accurate to real life, so it’s obviously taken inspiration from it, it’s not like they’re completely made up creatures. Most of what they are is coming from real life

[normal shuttle]

Yes

[urban flax]

It is proven most pterosaurs, if not all of them had a form of feathering

[urban flax]

Troodon's weight is not accurate to realism either, it's a dubious species

[frank tapir]

I thought everything could scent while running

[urban flax]

Or maybe rex needs to not be a canni so people understand they can't be all playing rex

[proper bluff]

dude mono irl weighted approximately 700kgs, ik they did a simmilar thing with herrera, but thats way to low for it, same with its speed

[proper bluff]

you think people will play cera or carno when they can play the most popular dino oat?

[ornate spade]

Troodons size isn’t really accurate but they weighed and estimated 50kg which is very similar to the 60 in game

[proper bluff]

the concept is good tho

[urban flax]

If they are certain of dying when playing the most popular dino, yes I think they will

[ornate spade]

Obviously some changes need to be made for gameplay sake, like adding venom to make it interesting

[modest dock]

People rly thinks canni rex will reduce the population while in fact it will just help them survive better

[normal shuttle]

We need more small carnivores and also in the concepts mono is like, not much larger than a herra

I think less than 300kg is good for mono

[proper bluff]

ok then tell me, what will a rex hunt when the whole server is a rex

[ornate spade]

Legit

[urban flax]

Nothing lol, that's the point

[keen kestrel]

Guys yesterday I was playing this game no problem. Today I updated my windows and I cant see official / unofficial servers. Anyone know why?

[proper bluff]

so how do you expect to survive as one

[modest dock]

Thats the point, that makes people less interested by playing rex

[urban flax]

I don't expcet to survive as one if there's only rexes on the server

[ornate spade]

Everyone’s interested, it’s a Rex.

[proper bluff]

if we're getting more smaller playables then devs should make a possibility of escaping a pin from omni, now its basically press this to kill

[proper bluff]

literally

[ornate spade]

There’s never gonna be people NOT interested

[proper bluff]

yea

[urban flax]

If I try to play rex and I have nothing to eat because everyone else is rex too, I'll use my superior brainpower and play something else

[urban flax]

Too bad for them, they'll die repeatedly

[modest dock]

Thats untrue btw, sure its most popular and sure there is going to be an high amount of rex players, but many people rather play smaller tiers

[urban flax]

But it's a lesser evil compared to having servers be flooded with only rexes constantly and them being able to sustain themselves without issue

[ornate spade]

Or they’ll just go canni mutation and lap it up regardless

[proper bluff]

when rex drops, a lot of ppl will likely buy the game js because of that. they are newbies so they wont be able to do a shi, and result will be review bombing the game

[urban flax]

A shame, really

[proper bluff]

sad but true

[ornate spade]

Doesn’t seem like it, I see far more ceratos than anything else and that’s the longest growth carnivore there is

[urban flax]

I don't think a game should change just to cater to newbies who can't understand the basics of a survival game

[ornate spade]

So true

[normal shuttle]

I know

And that is an omni issue, not something that we should have to deal with and condition all playables

[proper bluff]

like 90% of negative rewiews i've seen of this game are from ppl that have less than 100h in it and saying like they cant find food or sth like that. SKILL ISSUE literally

[ornate spade]

100%, how will the game ever grow if it’s not a friendly environment for new players. The game doesn’t teach you literally anything as it is

[urban flax]

There's being a friendly environment for new players
And there's allowing everyone to play and thrive as the strongest thing in the game on their first try
Two different things

[proper bluff]

playing the biggest thing straight away is the most brain dead moment

[urban flax]

A "beginner friendly environment" would be a tutorial that says "apexes are powerful but hard to play as, and require extensive knowledge of the game to stand a chance at survival."

[urban flax]

Exactly

[ornate spade]

I’m still not understanding how every other Rex wanting to eat you = easy environment to grow

[proper bluff]

then learn by yourself or watch yt tutorials ig, i have 700h on the game and i learned everything by myself, only watched yt tutorials for pvp

[ornate spade]

You know how much harder it is to grow as a cera compared to a Carno SIMPLY bc you can run up to any Carno and group, whereas for cera they eat you 99% of the time?

[urban flax]

Every other rex will want to kill you regardless
But in the option of rex being cannibal you'll have infinite food as the server will be crowed with rexes, as the other option will have rexes fighting over scarce food

[modest dock]

Sure, currently. Rex is going to be wayy longer to grow, and cerato fans - exists. I actually enjoy cerato myself, but never play it because there is too ma'y of them, i'm waiting for more dinos in the roster to play them, i will surely do the same with rex

[urban flax]

Harder to grow a cera compared to a carno ? Numbers speak otherwise

[proper bluff]

cera grows quicker than carno, it can eat bones, it can eat rotten meat, has the best sniffing in the game

[normal shuttle]

Imagine the game having balance and of course making all of the different playables require not the same effort and commitment to play 😭

[ornate spade]

I have too, but not everyone is going to do that, they’re expecting the game itself to explain how it’s played, like every other game

[proper bluff]

their problem then ig, but also those ppl will most likely review bomb the game for being too hard for new players xd

wow a hard survival is hard who would've expected that

[modest dock]

Minmi will be the best starter

[ornate spade]

Yeah it’s not about it being hard, there’s stuff like mud.. oh wow wallow? What the hell does that do? Hello? How am I supposed to learn what that does

[modest dock]

But minmi is faaar away

[ornate spade]

Literally have to google everything about the game to figure it out

Random stuff like doing less damage when you’re low health is never explained

[urban flax]

A tutorial is planned to come with the UI rework

[proper bluff]

You're low on health so you are weak, thats why

[ornate spade]

I mean I know basically all there is to know, bc I’m 600 hours. But for someone with a raptor on their back not knowing they can buck how aids is that lol

[normal shuttle]

@frank tapir so skillful and balanced

[ornate spade]

I completely understand people giving a negative review after an experience like that

Immortal raptor on their back no way to attack it

[ornate spade]

Yeah 100% the game needs it bad

[proper bluff]

Run into a tree to knock it down then attack it

Not that hard

[ornate spade]

Yeah I don’t think you’re getting the point

I KNOW what to do

[proper bluff]

Ik

[ornate spade]

But a dude who’s jumped in the game for 10 minutes doesn’t have a clue

He’s eating bodies and has no clue what an organ is

[proper bluff]

Theres a first time for everything ig

[ornate spade]

Trying to go find a teno to get dots his whole life and he can never find one

[proper bluff]

Ye you're right with this one

[ornate spade]

Yeah there is, but because nothing is explained and there’s not even a help menu you can read about stuff like bleed or organs, you can go literally hundreds of hours not even knowing that’s a mechanic in the game

[proper bluff]

Watching an yt tutorial never killed anyone but you are right

[ornate spade]

It’s one thing for a survival game to be unforgiving, but not explaining the basic mechanics isn’t that, even dark souls tells you how to play the game, the game itself is just hard

[ornate spade]

I mean yeah for sure, that’s what I did, but that shouldn’t really be the ONLY way to learn when you’re solo

[proper bluff]

Does DayZ tell you about everything? No. And yet people play it still.

[ornate spade]

Plus there’s so much misinformation because of it too, like half the community doesn’t know how troodon venom works

[normal shuttle]

Ermmmmm dark souls isn’t hard 🤓

[ornate spade]

I find myself having to teach new players in chat everything about the game constantly

[normal shuttle]

Half of the community started playing a week ago tbh

Ofc it’s an exaggeration but still

[proper bluff]

Ye thats great and annoying at the same time

[normal shuttle]

The clueless bad randoms everywhere 💔

[proper bluff]

Because you run into people who play so ahh you want to shoot yourself

[normal shuttle]

Can only play solo

There’s been only two randoms I’ve never been disappointed with

And those two had thousands of hours in the game

[proper bluff]

Ye simmilar for me

[ornate spade]

Yeah try maining troodon and watching every single pack member die on the first thing you fight 💀

[normal shuttle]

The rest are noobs who started yesterday and it’s like “it’s my first time playing x” with every single playable

[proper bluff]

That shi pisses me off so much

[normal shuttle]

Like bruh

I have to pull so much weight on my own when I am in a group

[ornate spade]

Happens so often when I ply with mates we nest randoms in for “cannon fodder” 😂💀

[normal shuttle]

I once saw a group of 5 nested dilos (I was 6th) and they all died in the first hunt while trying to trade with two fg ceras at daytime

Such a great and fulfilling experience to me. Had to flee and go solo because I was only in yellow while they ALL DIED

[proper bluff]

Dear god

[ornate spade]

Yeah I had an entire raptor pack of 6 or so lose to 1 cera… I watched in disbelief and fed myself to him after they all died 😂

[proper bluff]

How is this possible

[ornate spade]

Most of them didnt even land one pounce too 😂

[proper bluff]

3 raptors can take down a cera if they all pounce on him

[ornate spade]

I got all his stam off him, and pounced him like 4-5 times too

That dude had a gourmet lemme tell you 😂

[ornate spade]

I mean even 2 good raptor players should win that realistically

Cera can’t be watching front and back at the same time

You can always get the pounce in

[proper bluff]

Dude i was playing dibble the other day, we had like 3 fg ones, one of them got attacked by a cera, and he died because he was in the sparring mode the whole fight

I cant with ppl like this

[ornate spade]

😂

I’ve rarely seen noobs like that as full growns I’m not gonna lie, always either troodon, or baby cera, raptor or dilo

My region must have all the sweats 😂

[frank tapir]

I tried to run around them 😔 Just wanted to get to the mz

[proper bluff]

Oh yea, and dilos facetanking carnos or ceras like bro HOW CAN YOU BE THIS SH*T COME ON

Dilo is not a tank ffs

[gilded drift]

what happens if you're in sparring mode the whole fight

[normal shuttle]

@gaunt mango #phase-three-requests message that channel ain’t for that, use #general-feedback next time/instead

also, arctic biomes

And what do you mean with dinosaurs similar to Ark? Most designs there are awful 😭

And feathers can’t be on many things because they’re hard to animate

[proper bluff]

You cant look behind you, you turn around slower basically

[gaunt mango]

remind me where i said the exact same designs

i said dinos lmao

[frank tapir]

they're going to add more feathered dinos, austro will be soon

[normal shuttle]

Even worse

If you want more feathered animals then you better have a good- no, AMAZING reasoning to justify their addition

Devs are very reluctant to add more stuff to their planned roster because it’s full already

And each playable costs thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of combined work

[torn abyss]

Ah tysm! Yeah I pinged Punchpacket the other day and haven’t received a reply

[gaunt mango]

oh yay i love austro

[gaunt mango]

idk they look cool haha its okay

[serene owl]

Guys should we nerf cera turn?

[normal shuttle]

No

One of the things we shouldn’t nerf

[serene owl]

Ur wrong end of discussion

Admin close this channel, people are not agreeing with me

[proper bluff]

the turn is not the problem, the vomit and the charged bite is more like it

precisely, the ammount of bites it requires to make a lets say diablo vomit

[hollow flume]

How is that op

[proper bluff]

when u make sth vomit it gets stunned for a moment

and then u can land a few hits which can be an advantage

also its very annoying

[covert tiger]

@frank tapir not a hitbox issue but ok

@vital badge what do you mean unrealistically lightweight?
That's exactly how it was.
Should humans be enlarged in real life cause an elephant weighs several times more than us?
What is this logic....

[normal shuttle]

@vital badge that’s…the point

And no lol

Cera was 1 ton going for higher estimates

[covert tiger]

You also seem to think all rexes will be 9 tons. I guarantee you it'll be a rare sight

[normal shuttle]

Some dinosaurs were just that massive

[normal shuttle]

Also this ^

[covert tiger]

I think the most common fights we will see are subadult apexes vs mid tiers vs big groups of small tiers

[normal shuttle]

It’s not unrealistically lightweight, it’s just how the animals were as far as we know

Some are bigger, others smaller

No big deal

[covert tiger]

And tbh this will be a lot of fun

[normal shuttle]

Also, medium sized is just…part of the spectrum really

If anything cera and carno are on the lower end of “medium sized”

Allo is gonna be not much lower than 3 tons for sure

[covert tiger]

a 6 ton rex vs 2 allos or 5 omnis or 4 ceras
We will never know exactly how much each creature weighs and what percentage growth they are at just by looking at it from a distance
You'll get a rough estimate at best
All fights will be dynamic rather than going in with everyone full grown knowing exactly what the others' stats are
That's the best thing to come from the apex system in my opinion

[normal shuttle]

And it’s safe to say Sucho will be +4, Alberto around 3 similar to Allo if not even a little more, Acro 5-6 and Theri 4-5

There’s not gonna be a huge power gap between playables

[covert tiger]

And elders will make it even more dynamic
Everyone will have different stats literally

[normal shuttle]

Elder rex is gonna need true commitment

[wooden agate]

@vital badge but they arent medium sized dinosaurs lol

theres countless animals between things we have now and the apexes in terms of size differences. allosaurus comes to mind

[urban flax]

I think it's just a case of deathmatch mindset striking again

[normal shuttle]

The only cases where I can think of a massive size gap are cama and shant relative to everyone else.

[wooden agate]

we have one or two true midtiers, sure. maia and diablo, but those are... fine when it comes to weight anyway so

[normal shuttle]

Rex should be upsized to 15 tons to fight a 20 ton shant, ridiculously lightweight otherwise

[wooden agate]

i didnt read and i just came in here with my take but im glad im not the only one that went huh

[normal shuttle]

And then 4 ton cera

500kg troodon

1 ton omni (rip pachy)

[covert tiger]

I think dibble is defo overweight but it's fine, more food value for big carnis lol

[normal shuttle]

It also fills a role no one else has

So I let dibble slide

[wooden agate]

yah dibble is like 2x what it should be but i dont really care cause big bull

[covert tiger]

1.35T Omni
Perfectly balanced

[normal shuttle]

Same as beipi really

[normal shuttle]

Pinning a carno

Well no because carno would be allo sized then

[wooden agate]

well utah was 1t in legacy

[normal shuttle]

No longer powerless and too weak. Carnivores would get their power fantasy

[normal shuttle]

400kg dryo

900kg galli

Glorious numbers

[covert tiger]

I think Utah here will be 600-650 probably

[normal shuttle]

I unironically think we need more herbivore mid tiers

Plateosaurus, to me!!!

[covert tiger]

Para is coming

[normal shuttle]

true

although, if para is not 5 tons or more I riot

[wooden agate]

plateo kangaroo niche you couldve been great

[covert tiger]

I think 5-5.5

[wooden agate]

just straight up sucker punching an allosaurus in the jaw

[normal shuttle]

7 ton para

not even colliding with shant

[frank tapir]

you can't say that that is purely desync

[normal shuttle]

at all lol

[wooden agate]

it kinda is

[minor field]

wait did it get axed?

[wooden agate]

omni pounce stops the omni right where it pinned you but animals have like a 1 second delay where they can still move (but are infact pinned)

[wooden agate]

plateo has joined raui

[minor field]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[covert tiger]

In your case it almost purely is
There's no way the hitbox extends that far, I've played omni too much and I know exactly what the hitbox is

For balance reasons I agree and think it's fair that the tail tip gets removed from the pounce hitbox but otherwise it's fine

[normal shuttle]

😔

[minor field]

it couldve been really awesome

[normal shuttle]

carch and cory are our only hopes now...

also diplo and apa ig

[wooden agate]

but as esbi said the tail should be removed from the pin hitbox to make things like this less common

[normal shuttle]

quad carch, PERSEVERE!!!

[wooden agate]

i have heard nothing about diplo despite many questions

carch... is something.

diplo come back to me.... we need you diplodocus...

[normal shuttle]

carch is our only hope

[minor field]

unironically please

[covert tiger]

But tbh if you want to shorten Omni hitbox then the stego tail and carno charge and dibble stun ram are all equally bad at extending beyond where you would expect to get it
Don't single out omni, either change for all or leave all of them the same

The tail tip has always been the problem

[frank tapir]

I've seen how atrocious the hitbox is, even if you don't think what happened to me is because of the hitbox it is still too large

[normal shuttle]

deadass would become the most played apex if executed right 😭

or like top picks

[minor field]

I would most certainly play something like that I know in my heart I would

[normal shuttle]

I would pay Tapwing for a commission

so people could see the majesty

[normal shuttle]

same here

it's something you don't value until you understand why it's peak

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message that's desynch

[frank tapir]

see above

[exotic thicket]

guys??

can i have a question?

[stable crow]

sure??

[normal shuttle]

yeah

go ahead brudha

[exotic thicket]

wait

i will tell about it in like 20 minutes

im back

look at this clip

[compact sequoia]

looks like a graphic bug

[exotic thicket]

idk bro

it 1 shoted me

[compact sequoia]

then hacker

[exotic thicket]

yep

i awnt my cera back:(

[woven bane]

#general-feedback message tbf it already does, its only 45 but looks double that

[normal shuttle]

45kg ptera is a pretty solid size for it

It’s just that everything else is huge in this game

[woven bane]

he’s talking about the visual size

[normal shuttle]

Maybe slightly more

But it isn’t too egregious either

[woven bane]

anything more would be too much, like it looks dryo sized despite being less than half of it lol

[normal shuttle]

True

Feels pretty right for a pterosaur already

And honestly being much bigger with no stat benefits is just a nerf really under most circumstances

Since you get a bigger hitbox and are marginally harder to hide

[woven bane]

basically

[vital laurel]

@hollow trail It would be rly cool but i think it might not be possible due to weird blending with subadult/adult run anim during the life stages

[normal shuttle]

I did it

[cinder haven]

@remote hill Denio probably won't get any development for a long time, our best option is not to play Denio, so if there is no one playing Denio, they will have to bring a Denio buff.

[normal shuttle]

bruh

deino rework is confirmed

deino doesn't need buffs because it is being rebuilt

devs know it's ass

[cinder haven]

Are you serious? I can't access all the information.

[remote hill]

Yeah, but I feel like Deinos problems come NOT from Deino itself, it comes from how bad the game is designed, patrol and migration zones without food, flying fish, HUGE map for too little players, too little water compared to the insane amount of land, etc

[cinder haven]

So are you talking about it being better than the new one or are you talking about the current one?

[remote hill]

I have to google and watch youtube videos and ask stuff on a discord server to LEARN MECHANICS OF THE GAME

Why do I have to go out and research outside of the game to learn BASIC STUFF lmao

[normal shuttle]

well, we can rely on each other

[cinder haven]

Yeah, but I feel like Deinos problems come NOT from Deino itself, it comes from how bad the game is designed, patrol and migration zones without food, flying fish, HUGE map for too little players, too little water compared to the insane amount of land, etc

[normal shuttle]

but ye deino rework 100% soon

dunno when but it's next after ptera

[cinder haven]

Okay then, if a new Denio update is coming, I'm glad it's coming. I hope it's good (they can't make the animal any worse anyway)

[normal shuttle]

tru

[cinder haven]

pterodon isla spiro was good to play but gateway was not bad to play but the new pteradon looks good

[normal shuttle]

I think ptera was always bad

just had an overtuned period

same as U6 deino

[cinder haven]

I want to give feedback about trike and stego. It seems that an adult tikre player has the possibility of defeating two stegos at the same time. The defense was very good (but if we encounter such a good player again, we will try a different tactic). Secondly, 7-8 tons of trike stego should not fight, they die very easily.

[normal shuttle]

to be fair

every creature has bad matchups

[minor field]

spiro deino was saved only by the map being really small, and the fact that loads of people picked deino in the first place and overcrowded it, not really because the game itself can sustain deino too reliably it seems. I won't speak much on current deino though because Ive barely played it.

[normal shuttle]

and stego unsurprisingly performs poorly when its damage is reduced by 75% and there's no stuns on a target that can cc you and prevent you from landing multiple blows

trike is inherently anti stego

[cinder haven]

Also the trike is spinning very autistically very fast... and I think it should be like this otherwise it would be easy to be killed by stego the second problem is the trike attacks do not reduce stam this is a bit annoying it keeps knocking us down but 0 stam does not go away

[normal shuttle]

maybe the best anti stego dinosaur we're ever getting except maybe shant and cama but those are just carried by size

[normal shuttle]

also land deinos in U6 snatching pachies and omnis 100 meters away from the water...

[minor field]

I think deino was just a poor choice to introduce as a first semi aquatic, something like bary wouldve been better

[cinder haven]

Trike's biggest problem is that its attacks are broken, people die because they do the wrong attack, this needs to be changed, I'm serious.

[minor field]

my most hated experience was getting my pachy drowned by a deino that was smaller than I was while I could do nothing about it.

[normal shuttle]

if they do the wrong attack that's skill issue, don't button mash

(tutorial plz)

[cinder haven]

meh stego is still the strongest dinosaur in the game (for now) if trike plays aggressive stego wins i know this because we killed a beer adult while he was a sub stego

[normal shuttle]

to be honest I think beipi and austro would be best

Bary would have become the new carno and well...If it had been sucho then it would have been carnivore stego but when things go wrong it runs into the water and you can't do anything about it

[cinder haven]

No, look, even though he's not looking at the ground, he hits the ground and this causes his death. I think his trike settings are broken or his attack is very bad (I'm talking about his attack that hits the ground, gore attack)

[normal shuttle]

not really, it's button mashing punishing the player

unless your hardware is broken, that shouldn't happen

and that's good

[minor field]

I guess thats a fair point, especially at the stage the game was at since I can't even imagine what an update 3 bary would be like with improved stats, speed, kill times, etc

[cinder haven]

I think that gore attack is unnecessary, you get stunned for nothing and take a lot of damage for nothing (which is good for us XD)

[minor field]

update 3 balance was wacky

[normal shuttle]

also spiro was ass for every semi aquatic but deino and beipi. Zero plans for the future

something that gateway addressed

[cinder haven]

I wish I was there back then. When I came to the game, it was at update 3.5 and then it was updated to update 4 (oh, it was so good and fun back then)

[normal shuttle]

trikes being incompetent and dying to stegos is a great thing

means only the better ones endure

[minor field]

isla spiro has been a disaster for the construction of this game

[normal shuttle]

😔

V3 is unironically better despite having that massive geographical scar splitting the map into chunks

hell, Thenyaw is THE GOAT

(rip deinos tho)

[minor field]

though I still have the part of me that really enjoyed it and wish I could go back to older patches to see what they were like again, I hope somehow that can become something the community figures out.

[cinder haven]

by the way... i think eu 2 we killed all the trikes there are no more trikes

[normal shuttle]

good

I play trike in HT a lot, besides troo

[cinder haven]

Do you have any information about whether all dinosaurs will be wiped out when the Trex arrives?

[normal shuttle]

obviously, because it will be rex only testing, no trikes can be around

and then after that both will be released

[minor field]

I feel like spiro and v3 were complete opposite sides of the same coin in a way, v3 felt horrendous to navigate most of the time and the players were spread thin (with some exceptions) meanwhile spiro had everyone in the same exact place (basically from south to northwest)and was brainlessly easy to navigate

[cinder haven]

Damn, growing a stego is going to be a bit of a problem when there's Juvi Trex around.

[normal shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-writing-blackbeard-feather-writing-heresy-gif-4408192544333034740

I agree

[cinder haven]

spino was very good, pvp areas and migration points for denio, everything was good (there were a lot of migration points, we could hunt) I wish spino had never left

[normal shuttle]

I still remember U0 swamp brawls

and the madness of spawning in center a stego

[minor field]

center stego was hardcore mode

[wooden agate]

yeah the center where everything just spawned and died was fine

the pvp bowl that was center is a feature actually!!!

[minor field]

genuinely the worst mistake you could ever pick as that thing was spawning there

[normal shuttle]

So immersive. 90% of the map is dead space and then the central plains is a Mesozoic warzone

[wooden agate]

dont forget the ctrl c ctrl v tree and bushes

[cinder haven]

and we could memorize where the herbivores were going and thus the canro bandits would attack XD

[minor field]

i think my favorite strat for growing anything was the south pond omni rock strats

id just eat once, chill at this rock behind the waterfall, then when the carno death squads rolled up I'd dip through that one secluded path that led from center to south pond

[normal shuttle]

I am 140% sure that people only treated swamp as a hotspot in U0-U2 because it was the only damn place who was any recognizable as a landmark

everything else was the same jungle

[wooden agate]

i got stuck on pride rock next to south pond (when it was still deino infested)

as pteranodon

[normal shuttle]

AND PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT GATEWAY JUNGLES

[wooden agate]

a server admin came and unstuck me

[normal shuttle]

they are brats

they haven't lived through ALL the map being the same jungle

and the old scent system

[minor field]

or ravine cera, those who know remember how good this strategy was

[normal shuttle]

or omni vs teno brawls

canni omnis everywhere

[minor field]

i got lucky enough that I didnt play back in U2 because I honestly didn't follow development AT ALL at the time so I thought legacy was the only branch for a while

[normal shuttle]

I played until U3 and had a long hiatus until gateway

lol

[minor field]

and then playing evrima felt like rediscovering the game entirely

[normal shuttle]

I played a lot of slop and then the peak

[minor field]

I did the exact opposite

I played every single patch after update 3 (except update 5) and then stopped in the beginning of gateway before picking it back up again

[normal shuttle]

because honestly, gateway evrima is a pretty decent survival game, maybe even above average for indie standards

Only really sins of being laughably cryptic for a new player but all you need is a discord or some yt guide

[wooden agate]

i was exiled from the game between update 5 up to a few months before dibble HT

[minor field]

I picked gateway back up around dilo launch, miserable times if I was honest.

[normal shuttle]

current live branch is good despite its flaws

I rejoined just before maia

[minor field]

because dilo was dilo and ai was actually kind of rare if you were lonely and my favorite thing at the time (cera) was pretty much unplayable at night

I wish cera never returns to that

[normal shuttle]

I wish cera only gets a slight nerf

dunno why it's forbidden to have well rounded playables

[minor field]

cera is kinda ruined for me atm

which sucks cause for a time it was my favorite playable

[normal shuttle]

teno is a marvelous balancing/game design example and it has no glaring, gargantuan weaknesses

yet it isn't oppressive either

[ashen shell]

avaliant do you ever leave this channel

[normal shuttle]

rarely, I love feedback and regular feedback dwellers

[keen vigil]

aliant do you have a...j-j-j*b?

[ashen shell]

NO!

[normal shuttle]

I am a college student

[keen vigil]

dont get a j*b

[minor field]

I burst in whenever I feel like it

or whenever an argument happens here, which is frequent

[keen vigil]

we need someone to spew their takes in this channel

[ashen shell]

so instead of studying we're in a general feedback channel!? hell yeah!

[ashen shell]

yes give us dookie takes

[normal shuttle]

allow me to preach to you then, about a hot take everyone hates to love

[keen vigil]

hit me

[normal shuttle]

Quad Carch

[keen vigil]

aliant

[normal shuttle]

ye

[keen vigil]

ill be honest idk what quad carch is

[normal shuttle]

usual

[minor field]

dude whenever he posts its an hour long argument afterwards

[ashen shell]

quadrupedal carcharodontosaurus?

[normal shuttle]

Making the planned carcharodontosaurus a quadruped apex in order to not make it a giga clone

[minor field]

hes VERY good at upsetting people, I'll give him that

[keen vigil]

nah i agree

[ashen shell]

yeah that type of sad loser ain't too uncommon in survival game communities

[ashen shell]

that would be pretty hot

[minor field]

upsettings the wrong word, more like just keeping people around for his non arguments

[normal shuttle]

he is not a good ragebaiter, just adamant and smart enoughto give room for replies which he replies to

[keen vigil]

i personally think every apex should get scrapped and just focus on acro instead

[ashen shell]

i think dryo should become omnipotent

[minor field]

the fractal of non arguments

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message People need to understand its greatness

[keen vigil]

i also think ceratosaurus should be permantly deleted and never see the light of day again ❤️

[minor field]

I can throw in that one horrible idea I had once to give dilo a semi paralytic instead of damaging venom

it wasn't really even a movement inhibiter, the idea was to just slow attacks down

but the idea really sucked either way

my idea then changed into the one thats been suggested several times which is to just make charges be regenerated by bites and to have clones be able to be attacked again but i never posted it because again, been said hundreds of times

[heady geode]

how do you get banned from an entire game without hacking, and then unbanned??

what war crimes did you commit

[wooden agate]

you confuse exile with banned

i play via cloud gaming

geforce now broke with evrima when update 5 dropped

[heady geode]

well exile is a bad word for that lol

your crime was cloud gaming

[chilly ermine]

#general-feedback message

Couldn’t agree more with not having voice chat. Sounds nice on paper but will surely become massively toxic.

Nothing breaks atmosphere of a dinosaur survival game like teens and preteens cursing and screaming. I would much rather hear walkie talkie sounds with text chat.

At the very least, allow the ability to mute human audio chat if you are human.

[minor field]

I kinda got my own idea on how to address voice chat a bit while adding depth to it a bit

They could make voice chat reliant on the breath meter that the dinosaurs use, for example

So that someone can't go around spamming slurs or what not, and if they tried to their voice would get quieter over time

this is more so for general gameplay and not slurs and toxicity themselves as the best solution for that would be to have the option to toggle it on or off

[normal shuttle]

lmao

[limber hull]

i mean

wouldnt the breath meter be your own breath, since you are the one talking LMAO

[limber hull]

nothing breaks the atmosphere of a dinosaur survival game for me more than humans not being able to talk like normal humans

[minor field]

well yes but it also works against people using a soundboard or something, but that's true too

at the end of the day you could always just mute voice chat

[limber hull]

oh my solution to a soundboard is this rusty SPAS-12 I found in the jungle

pow

[minor field]

or the herrera waiting patiently above the trees for a dumb unaware person

thats gonna be the best part about voice chat, just the abrupt cuts between casual conversation as people die randomly

[limber hull]

hell yea

me and my mates would LOVE to play this game as humans with proxy VC

[minor field]

I just want to go around trolling as an carnivore

not even killing humans most of the time just jumping out of the bushes to scare them because man I love the sound of gamers becoming horror movie voice actors

[limber hull]

i know that dinos won't be able to understand human VC, but as long as I know how loud they're screaming, I'm happy

[latent olive]

if the static increased in volume with the players microphone, you’ll be able to tell when someone screams

alternatively, players might discover the parasaurolophus microphone meta

where they turn their mic volume to maximum and deafen everything around them

[fleet quest]

na 2 croc u stink u know who u are

started to canni and stopped when i called u a meanie in chat, ur weenie hut jr bro

[frank tapir]

don't think that guy'll be in this channel

[fleet quest]

ahh thats on me thought i was in diff chat my b

[icy lion]

@hidden patrol That's in hordetesting right now

[pliant elm]

@hidden patrol I remember hearing about this on the devblog

[wooden agate]

@compact sequoia theres literally an ingame setting for it lol

#general-feedback message

[woeful latch]

i was about to say lol

[limber hull]

at this point i dont think this guy even looks for a solution to his games problems he just instantly goes to feedback lol

[chilly ermine]

I'm sorry but there's nothing normal about the way kids playing video games talk. Unless you think that bet and cap are normal to say while being hunted by a ceratosaurs.

[limber hull]

so? you can blast the brains out of the kid if it really annoys you that much

removing an ENTIRE system because of gen z brainrot talk is a bizarre solution to a non-issue

theres nothing stopping you from using the "magic mute button" that is a shotgun

[chilly ermine]

I don't want to shoot them, I just want a mute button. I think that is a very simple request

[limber hull]

and even if we dont have one, we can just shoot 'em. I'm fine either way

[latent olive]

me without a gun just day-z fistfighting a man to death

[keen goblet]

why do none of these servers have crocs

[barren zephyr]

when is spino coming out 💔

[urban flax]

You're probably playing legacy
If you want to play as deino you need to select evrima in Steam betas

[barren zephyr]

man

[urban flax]

In 10

[barren zephyr]

10 what

[urban flax]

Rules

[barren zephyr]

months?

[barren zephyr]

gng what 😭

@night niche do u have an estimate for when t rex and spino are gonna come out?

[urban flax]

Read server rules from 1 to 10
By the time you reach the 10th you'll know when spino is out

[barren zephyr]

gng

brother what

HMMM mb guys

[limber hull]

a bold move

[modest dock]

https://tenor.com/view/general-kenobi-you-are-a-bold-one-gif-10714438

[frank tapir]

rex will be in the current hordetest

[normal shuttle]

LMAOOOOOO

@glossy gust you know, diabloceratops and triceratops are objectively more distant than us and gorillas or orangutans

Can you innately understand what a gorilla would verbally say to you? Or can the gorilla understand your words?

There’s no subspecies either in the game rn either, not even planned. All playables aren’t even in the shared geni

[barren zephyr]

Im so cooked arent i

[normal shuttle]

Maybe

[barren zephyr]

dont eat me owner 😨

[gilded drift]

@sudden grove What's up with these players and their war against free will

[frank tapir]

man

[limber hull]

why cant i eat meat as a herbivore whats with this war against free will

[frank tapir]

still got the spelling wrong in the name

[gilded drift]

You're irrelevant, that has no correlation with hatchlings griefing nests and you will never be able to say otherwise

[limber hull]

The war against free will continues 😔

[barren zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-gallimimus-kaperoo-evrima-the-isle-evrima-gif-9799463776398763898

[gilded drift]

I see several problems here that can be handled w 1 solution

• You think the map is too big for 100 players (you're right it is, the devs just don't care)
• You have problems with finding interaction with players in river systems you don't need to travel to
  @remote hill

Solution is to switch from officials to petids pieds, higher playercap with at times better fps/ping

[junior nymph]

@gray dune the tyrannosaurus has paleo calls and 90s calls

[modest dock]

Do we know how that will work exactly ?

Like do you have to switch through them or is it just 1 call is 90 styled and chat is more paleo accurate

[gilded drift]

what's your source to it having paleo calls

[lapis swallow]

dondi, I think

[modest dock]

Its not the first time i saw that statement , i think there was a discussion long time go with a dev that said there was some options for the calls on t rex but never said how that woujld work exactly so I'm curious

[acoustic spruce]

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sorry-gif-23824324

[gilded drift]

21yo

[normal shuttle]

Quetz isn’t even low priority

It’s one of those playables that will be considered into the roadmap in a while

[junior nymph]

the devs have said it

also its shown in the trailers

[gilded drift]

considered to be released a while from now?

[junior nymph]

it will prob be a keybind to switch between them I would think

[normal shuttle]

It is confirmed that it will release, obviously

But by “a while” we mean a long while

[gilded drift]

Yeah that's what I said, it being released in a "while" is a mistake

[normal shuttle]

Because at the moment these are the ones we very likely are going to see first: rex, trike, allo, bary, austro, kentro, spino, giga, para, cams (not in order)

[normal shuttle]

Why?

I also love quetz and I would like to see it

[gilded drift]

It's a 5meter tall flier, alot of people out there just want to play something big. That's why deino & stego is so overpopulated

[woeful latch]

bro got mad again

[gilded drift]

It will spike the playerbase

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-laughing-gif-lol-funny-loud-laugh-gif-7926424135311815001

[limber hull]

Just say its your fave animal lol

Any new dinosaur will spike the playerbase

Rex/Trike and Allo will absolutely spike the playerbase

[gilded drift]

You're stating the irrelevant obvious
Even an irrelevant playable like that small diablo-looking thing will spike the playerbase. But not as much as rex, trike, quetz

[limber hull]

It's not irrelevant just because you don't like it

[woeful latch]

“diablo-looking thing”….

[limber hull]

Everyone has a favourite. Just because a specific animal is your fave doesn't make it more relevant than any other

[gilded drift]

Saying that all dinos are as relevant as any other is bait and absurd

[gilded drift]

No sht. Quetz would spike more than the average playable is what I obviously am saying, which is only a part of the reason why they shouldn't be so sluggish about developing it

[limber hull]

I don't think animals should be added by order of popularity lol, otherwise spinosaurus, giganotosaurus, anky and so on should be added well before quetz

[latent olive]

alberto would spike more than the average playable

giga would spike more than the average playable

megalania would spike more than the average playable

this is just pure subjective lmao

[limber hull]

its literally based on favourite

its fine to have a favourite btw

but to act as if the favourite is more important than anything else is a bit silly

[limber hull]

humans would MASSIVELY spike more than the average playable. Both gen 1 and gen 2

[gilded drift]

Irrelevant statement I never declined

[limber hull]

was i talking to you?

[latent olive]

this is all just a fancy way of saying "work quicker pls"

[gilded drift]

Quetz is a 5 meter tall bird, should be prioritized

[latent olive]

why

[limber hull]

megalania is a 5m long lizard

[latent olive]

what foundations does it set, what mechanics does it introduce, is it an extreme to test how they work like trex and trike, does it introduce anything interesting

[limber hull]

it basically does what deino/ptera already set in place

grabbin' and flyin'

[latent olive]

CURRENTLY the teams focused on playables that set foundations and mechanics for other playables

im putting currently in big letters because theyre JUST about to reach the point where they dont need to focus on this

see; austroraptor, baryonyx, kentrosaurus

[urban flax]

Kentrosaurus will have the retaliation mechanic tho
No a big one, still something that isn't present in the game right now

[latent olive]

weeeeelll

triceratops face pouncing is lethal i believe

[woeful latch]

no?

[urban flax]

Tho tbh evry dino has their own unique mechanic to some extent

[limber hull]

yea, trike does introduce that

[urban flax]

Bar carchar

[woeful latch]

i love that mechanic sm

[latent olive]

they might re-use the same system from trike on kentro and tweak it a little

[limber hull]

i'd imagine a little more indepth

[woeful latch]

honestly the dibble should have it too, even tho its horns are not that long

at least for smaller dinos

[latent olive]

i think it does

[woeful latch]

oh really? sick

[latent olive]

specifically for troodons and juvenile omniraptors though

[limber hull]

honestly, biting the frill should do some reflective damge, that'd be cool

[latent olive]

i need confirmation for it though

[woeful latch]

or that yeah

[junior nymph]

id find it more fitting for elder dibble

[gilded drift]

it's 5m long in game?

[junior nymph]

long?

[woeful latch]

i think both got at least somewhat large horns to do the damage or impale

[limber hull]

possibly? idk lol

we know about as much about its size ingame as we do quetz

[gilded drift]

we know quetz is going to be 5m tall

[limber hull]

based on?

[urban flax]

source ?

[latent olive]

the shadows on the wall

[gilded drift]

Just how we knew carno would have small arms before its release in legacy
quetz's characteristic is it being unusually tall

[junior nymph]

nah the voices in my head

[gilded drift]

Basement dwellers

[limber hull]

megalania's characteristic is it being unually long for a lizard so i guess yea megalania will probably be 5+m

same logic applies

[urban flax]

This was totally needed and absolutely supports your argument

[latent olive]

liz.,arzrr

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301953696732549262/1302031247131938826/Megalania.png?ex=680f5357&is=680e01d7&hm=f920ed0ce7705289c1c8e056361b4ec7894483a778b0c6a960c2c32759a16c44&

[limber hull]

liazrd

[limber hull]

long-ass lizard

[latent olive]

[woeful latch]

just projecting

[gilded drift]

You pathologically lying about your opinions and contradicting yourself totally supports your credibility

[urban flax]

cry about it

[gilded drift]

this dino for example, completely irrelevant. Remove it from the roster and replace the time into quetz's development

[junior nymph]

how can the general feedback discussion become so passive aggressive

[limber hull]

"I dont like it so remove it"

You're proving my point lmao

[junior nymph]

i like magy

seems like a little guy

[gilded drift]

I never said I didn't like it, I think it won't add much to the game
and it's not an unpopular opinion that magy serves no great purpose

[indigo gulch]

Looks like an interesting fella

[gilded drift]

Yeah it's interesting but what are they going to do with it? Give it poison?

[woeful latch]

you’re irrelevant tho, this dino will be an amazing playable

[indigo gulch]

Tho I dont know it

[indigo gulch]

Your name change didn’t stay long huh?

[junior nymph]

make use of the islands by giving it some sort of thing that helps the ecosystem around it maybe

[woeful latch]

hmm my friend joked about me looking like ludwig and i changed my name to annoy him

i’m back to cheesy now

[limber hull]

it adds a new unique mechanic in the form of passive defense with its poor taste. it's the only animal with such a mechanic.

[indigo gulch]

Sad. Kinda like the other one

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/ludwig-lud-ludwig-eat-gif-23261417

[indigo gulch]

Passive defense?🤨

[indigo gulch]

I said I liked the name, not the person🤣

[woeful latch]

if you attack it you will get damaged back i think, i might be wrong th.

[gilded drift]

poor taste? what? so it's just going to not give nutrition?

[woeful latch]

OH LOL XDDDD

[limber hull]

It's pretty widely believed that if you bite it, you'll likely recieve negative status effects

[gilded drift]

people will kill it regardless lol that will do nothing

[indigo gulch]

Aaaaaah like poison dart frogs?

[limber hull]

Depends on implementation

[junior nymph]

imagine if it just makes you get a bile bar like cera and makes you puke

[limber hull]

I genuinely hope it does

Reflective bile would be a super interesting balance factor

[indigo gulch]

Actual fair implementation of the vomit

[junior nymph]

how did I make a joke into a good balance take wth

[limber hull]

that's something i've wanted for ages lmao

[indigo gulch]

It would help discourage eating it and it can’t be used aggressively

So ye kinda how the vomit is supposed to work

As a deterrent

[junior nymph]

yeah but you are wavepoole you think of weird things

[indigo gulch]

Well better do it when you’re full food then.

[limber hull]

actually, i think it'd be really funny if its bile is more reflective when you ARE on full food

[junior nymph]

they could make it a % based thing

so what you said

[urban flax]

Behold
Magy
#general-feedback message

[indigo gulch]

Bulbu saw magy mentioned and went: MY TIME IS NOW!

[urban flax]

I can't just let people talk about magy without joining in

[latent olive]

I love inverse vomit magyarosaurus

[urban flax]

And if a cera bites a magy they both puke on each other and begin a puke contest

And it goes into a DBZ kamehameha fight minigame where whoever pukes the strongest gets the advantage

While every other dino just watches and thinks "ew".

[woeful latch]

yeah, sounds great

[normal shuttle]

It’s so peak as an idea

And actually good to prevent kos from most stuff

[wispy abyss]

#general-feedback message >> press SHIFT once when you use W, there is your autorun

[half siren]

pretty sure a Flying frog swimming in the air is not part of the game lol

[woeful latch]

idk seems normal to me

[half siren]

hahaha

just a normal day then lol

[woeful latch]

yeahh

[paper fractal]

not far enough, explosive diarrhoea /j

[woeful latch]

ehh it was funnier before you added /j

[paper fractal]

do NOT wanna risk getting sent to the shadow realm 😊

[woeful latch]

magy explosive diarrhea sounds like a good ability tbh

should also be permanent.

#general-feedback message I WANT THIS

not as bright and saturated, but i want biome with the flowers

[woeful latch]

PEAK

[ashen shell]

#general-feedback message
kinda sick of seeing this considering i'm pretty sure it's inaccurate)
1 - allegedly the original video is full of bird sounds just edited to sound different which is kinda what it sounds like
2 - i'm pretty sure there's almost no way to tell what sound most dinosaurs made at the moment, vocal sounds usually come from folds in the throat, not bones, therefore they couldn't analyze the skull of a rex and determine what sounds it made based off of what the skull is shaped like

i'm not very educated on the subject so if someone else has better insight please lmk if i'm wrong

doesn't mean the idea is necessarily bad, it just seems like you were going for realistic rex sounds and if those sounds aren't accurate then it's just missing the point
if you think it should sound like it should in the video, realism aside, fair enough i won't shoot you down on that

[ashen shell]

such a delightful and jolly biome

[gilded drift]

what makesy you think jurassic park's rex calls are accurate

[ashen shell]

WHERE did i say that

[gilded drift]

Birds primarily evolved from theropods, which is the same group that the rex belonged to.
So the video in feedback is likely more realistic than the JP counterpart

[ashen shell]

i didn't make a single comment on jp or any implications on it

[ashen shell]

i understand that birds did evolve from theropods but they're still different animals that will make different sounds

[gilded drift]

No one said the rex would have sounded like a chicken.
Although considering birds evolved from theropods, it's likely that they share some traits in vocals

just like how titanaboa probably had some sort of hiss, megalania probably had similar vocals to our komodo, etc

[gilded drift]

Also, obviously the video is "fake". No one went back in time to do an audiorecording session with a rex
The video is just an example of more up-to-date realistic calls from rex

[ashen shell]

in all fairness to you i worded it wrong lol i shouldn't have said fake

it obviously is fake, i agree, i mean that the video was allegedly inaccurate

[gilded drift]

@steady orchid what will you see here except stegos?

[ashen shell]

joy and sunshine

[keen vigil]

personally i think rex should sound like godzilla in the isle

[gilded drift]

@modest dock that's too much time

should be third of a day/half a day

[woeful latch]

real

[normal shuttle]

Looks like the Sekiro final boss arena

I approve

[harsh sun]

The sound originated in a YouTube video exploring what dinosaurs MIGHT have sounded like. It's not an actual sound created by paleontologists.

[minor field]

I hope we get a desert style map in a mod some day, and like a good one too

[ashen shell]

ah thanks

[ashen shell]

agreed, i saw an arid style reskin of the IsleV3 map in opendinos and it looked sick

[minor field]

or a silurian style fungi forest

[ashen shell]

#1124070634062893116 message

[ashen shell]

@minor field ^^

love the bottom right and top left

[minor field]

PLEASE I would love a map like this

[modest dock]

I'm much more for a day length maximum but i adapted in case ppl disagree

[modest dock]

I know what you mean right but even if the sounds are not real, which is the case and you are entirely right those are just edited bird sounds, but dinosaurs especially theropods or ornithopods are more relative to birds than mammals , what i mean is that basically everytime you hear a rex roaring in jp those calls are edited sounds of lions/elephants or so. So yeah,, i would rather ear much more bird relative edited sounds for dinosaurs than mammal edited. Anyway it still fictional, but one way is more accurate than the other, also sounds more original to me

[ashen shell]

totally fair

[glossy gust]

I remember seeing somewhere that there will be an option to choose either realistic calls or to have the jp sounds for rex (I can't remember where I got that from but I heard it somewhere)

[harsh sun]

Birds ARE theropods 🤓

[modest dock]

I knew it would end there xD birds are dinosaurs tbh

[harsh sun]

My apologies, I couldn't resist myself.

[modest dock]

My mistake on my comment i have to assume

[modest dock]

You did well 🤣 couldn't agree more

[limpid bear]

ive been away for the last 5 days where tf is rex 😢 🙏

[woeful latch]

come back in 5 days

[limpid bear]

will do

[covert tiger]

@sharp sentinel already done in hordetest...

[normal shuttle]

This is so perfect

[minor field]

please in some biodome somewhere this would be peak

[normal shuttle]

Having an actual paleobiome in a dome would be goated

Better than the ideas of adding a desert or a snowy area

[potent solar]

when i see migrations area i imagine a field with a bunch of herbs to herbivorous eat, but inst nothing like that at all...

[minor field]

I feel like if one of these two were to exist it would have to be the whole map because they dont really fit well with every other biome in the game

Like new map with completely different environmental affects and challenges, probably as some sort of mod

[potent solar]

cant they add like real migrations areas?? like the ones exist in africa? where the gnus or zebras need to do a risky travel

also cant u add ads while we wait on queu?

[compact sequoia]

dino got std before gta 6

[normal shuttle]

lol

getting random debuffs sounds so fun

[urban flax]

A disease systyem can be cool actually
But RNG is bad

[normal shuttle]

indeed

[tulip gust]

They’d be negligible unless you didn’t fix them. Why is RNG bad?

[urban flax]

Because it's completely outside of player's agency

In a survival game, you should be rewarded for playing correctly and punished for playing wrong
Punishing players at random is against that philosophy

[tulip gust]

I guess get this… still though. In a survival game that’s supposed to be as brutal and unfair as real nature, maybe the RNG rule can be tweaked? A bit? Diseases are a pain not a punishment. Just something to do in between murder and eating and there’s stakes involved. It’s PvE man, getting sick at random is kinda the point. Eventually drinking water is RNG in this game lol

[normal shuttle]

and deino is known to be trash design and is getting a rework

oh, and devs have refused multiple times to add directly lethal natural disasters or events like lightning strikes for that very reason: it's bad and you are punishing players at random for doing something right

and game was never meant to be unfair, just hard

[tulip gust]

Disease isn’t unfair or a punishment

[urban flax]

It's supposed to be brutal, not unfair. Fairness is what makes a game good, and drinking being RNG is absolutely NOT an argument in favor of it, look at how miserable playing both as deino and against deino is

It could be as simple as making catching diseases possibles through a hidden bar for each disease that gradually fills up when you do an activity that risks making you sick

It's still unpredictable as you can't see the bar, but not random

[urban flax]

It's literally both

[normal shuttle]

it absolutely is lmao

[tulip gust]

This feels like you learned game design from a youtuber with 1200 subscribers

[urban flax]

Explain

[tulip gust]

Lmao then hunger is a punishment ?????

[urban flax]

Starvation is

[tulip gust]

Okay then disease isn’t the punishment the symptoms are lol

Gamers upset that a game makes them play the game is so funny to me

[urban flax]

No, disease is the punishment. The symptoms are part of it
But it doesn't matter in this context

[urban flax]

Did you just admit you understood nothing of what we just said ?

[tulip gust]

“No hunger is the punishment starvation is part of it”

[urban flax]

Hunger is the amount of time you have before you starve

[tulip gust]

Hunger in this game is a timer until you die that you can extend by eating. It is a punishment

It’s the same value counting down

[urban flax]

There are no debuffs to having 50% hunger or 10% hunger, or 1% hunger
It's technically a grace period before you suffer the debuffs (which in this case are death)

A disease gives you debuffs
Therefore it's a punishment

[tulip gust]

I feel like im talking to a shrew

[urban flax]

If it's easier for you to understand, you could compare the hunger bar to the health bar
Neither the health mechanic nor the health bar are punishments
They're here to allow for other mechanics, such as the wounded status, or death, to exist

But the reason there is a health bar is so that wounds and death are not random
Because that would suck

[urban flax]

I'm sorry for you, that must feel bad

[tulip gust]

There is no health bar and there are many random death so I feel like you dont play the game

[urban flax]

I didn't think explaining why punishing players at random is bad would be that complicated

[urban flax]

There is a health bar, just hidden from the player
There are no random deaths, they all come from either predictable circumstances or the actions of other players

[tulip gust]

Because you’re hyper fixated on it being a punishment when it’s not

[urban flax]

I'm not even sure you know what random means anymore

[urban flax]

It is tho
If you got a better term for it I'd like to hear it

[tulip gust]

lmao

[thick summit]

I do think diseases should be a thing but they shouldn't be that awful

[tulip gust]

Just like hunger, both fit under a misdion model. Misson: get food
or die. Mission: Sick: get better.

You can avoid getting sick. You can prepare ahead of time. The idea is that you are also responsible for taking care of the animals health beyond food and water, which means sometimes random illnesses, of which you have complete power over how and when you wish to treat them.

[urban flax]

If they're random you don't have power to control them
Because they're random

[tulip gust]

I think you could benefit from asking questions when you’re confused

[urban flax]

As I said before, I'm find with the concept of disease
It's the concept of them being RNG which is an issue
Just switch every mention of RNG with "hidden disease bar" and it's literally fine
Also forget about birth defects

[tulip gust]

“RNG BAD” is poor motto for game development as half of all games utilize RNG. Of course you are the expert. That’s why when you recommend Monopoly get rid of dice and Income Tax by god they did it!

[urban flax]

Games use RNG because it's easier to do than actual systems
Also some games are designed around being RNG, such as roguelikes

But when a game is both PvP and contains RNG elements, it's mostly considered a design flaw
That's why many modern PvP games attempt to avoid RNG at all costs
An example of that is Heroes of The Storm, where even critical hits were landed by counting attacks instead of being a random chance

[tulip gust]

How and when you wish to treat them

[tulip gust]

You are literally anti fun the birth defects are cool

[urban flax]

Because RNG means you can get at a disadvantage against another player despite being a better player and doing nothing wrong, and then you die because you were less lucky
And in this game dying is the one thing you want to avoid at all costs

[urban flax]

They're just one more reason to jump off a cliff after spawning

[tulip gust]

The game isn’t PvP

[urban flax]

BRUH

[normal shuttle]

game totally is PvP oriented

[lilac bolt]

it isn't the main focus but it is part of it

[tulip gust]

Well yeah it’s 20% done

[normal shuttle]

everything around you who can give you a reasonable amount of food/diet or can kill you is a player

[urban flax]

Even at 100% the game will still be PvP lol

What do carnivores eat ?

[lilac bolt]

pretty much everything

[normal shuttle]

and all of your abilities and stats rely on dealing with, surprise, other players

Teno doesn't have a kick to deal with boars. Cera doesn't use vomit against boars

[urban flax]

or a boar

[normal shuttle]

only when you are a fresh spawn really, super limited range

[tulip gust]

Look it’s a survival game and PvP is supposed to be as big a part. So you just imagine a disease bar or whatever.

[urban flax]

Yes

[normal shuttle]

I don't like diseases being random

I would like them to be a bar and a punishment for doing things wrong

[lilac bolt]

^

[normal shuttle]

rather than pure luck because this game does not intend to be unfair and unfairness is garbage in a game so punishing

[tulip gust]

Animals in the wild live a long time with these diseases, so the idea would be you get a looong time to deal with them before they got bad enough to notice

[urban flax]

Diseases can be decently hard-hitting, as long as they're either hard to catch or easy enough to get rid of
It's all a matter of balance

[tulip gust]

God I did all that yapping and forgot that was half the list and only 2 of the parasites were RNG 😭

And the RNG is just the chance to get a leech or tick from any interaction with a bush or river

The rest -
Virus/Infections

• Infection
  Cause:

• Open wounds
• Bad dental hygiene
• Being near corpses
  Treatment:
• Rolling in Mud
• Swimming in salt water
• Salt Water Gargle
• Distance from corpses
  Without treatment:
• Lower health pool
• Lower max bite force
• Long term exposure can permanently lower bite force

• Lyme disease (Bacterial infection)
  Cause:

• Untreated Ticks
  Treatment:
• Antibiotics found in Cinnamon Bark
• Antibiotics found in Honey
  Without treatment:
• Bleeds out faster
• Lower pool of stamina
• Long term exposure - Lower health pool
• Long term exposure - Lower overall stamina

• Dino Pox (Similar to Bird Pox)
  Cause:

• Mixpacking
• Overpopulation
• Corpses
• Waste
  Treatment:
• Distance from infected and sources
• Time
• Mutated Ants (After Long Exposure) (Medium to small Herbivores and Carnivores can eat mutated ants to treat Dino Pox)
• Mutated Rafflesia Arnoldi (After Long Exposure) (Known as The Corpse Flower, these massive, meat scented plants contain huge mutant ant colonies hidden within that larger dinosaurs can break open and consume.
  Without treatment:
• Wart-like nodules appear all over body
• Lowered overall max health
• Lower overall max stamina
• Random (Temporary) drops in stamina.
• Long term exposure- Extremely under expected stats at full growth
• Long term exposure- Death

[normal shuttle]

@livid shale I apologize, but that just sounds like cera with acro mechanic and who can get ran down by dibbles...Not so great

Playables also gotta be unique in kit and niche, not looks

[thick summit]

And we already have a sausage in the isle. Rugops.

[normal shuttle]

true

and rugops can be peak if they make it JP carno

[thick summit]

Yeah

[normal shuttle]

was it that one? the camo one?

if so yes, I mean that carno

[vague night]

oh you mean JP Books carno

the ones that camo, which unfortunately didn't make it to the movies

[pliant elm]

the game is already a total mess in its current state and you want this added?

[tulip gust]

…yes

[pliant elm]

play ark

[tulip gust]

I cant its ugly

[thick summit]

Ark makes the isle legacy look good

[livid shale]

Didnt really know what to say i dont have to much info about it and my English aint the best

[normal shuttle]

it's ok

[thick summit]

Don't worry! I believe we know what you mean

[normal shuttle]

dilo in ark

[livid shale]

I could probably make it sound better then i typed it sounded better in my head i know how i want it just dont know how to type it

[thick summit]

Basically, majunga's hunting style irl

[livid shale]

Exactly

Dont know how to explain tho

[thick summit]

It overlaps with a lot of niches in the isle and it wouldn't really work with a fleshed out ecosystem

While I do like your idea and majungasaurus, I do think it'd die to most things and yk...roster bloat

[livid shale]

I just want something that sticks out all i hear is spino, rex, allo and more basic

[vague night]

I dont think we can diversify majungas niche from other current dinos to justify its existence

unless they pull a herra and give it something it definitely didnt have originally

[thick summit]

That's the community

[livid shale]

Well i will come back in like 10 hours with another suggestion then lol

[thick summit]

I hear baryonyx and austroraptor a lot

[livid shale]

I have this idea, but it will take a lot of time and probably not even seen…

[normal shuttle]

herrera, rugops, austro, sucho, carno, bary and CARCH are not really basic

[thick summit]

Allo, rex and trike are really close and the next playables. The community is always excited for the newest additions

[normal shuttle]

also spino and rex being popular doesn't mean they wont be unique

[livid shale]

Whats rugops?

[normal shuttle]

or fun to play

[normal shuttle]

small abelisaurid

[thick summit]

Majungasaurus but smaller

Basically

[livid shale]

Okayy

Is rugops coming to hordetesting?

[thick summit]

It'll be a human hunter and we hope it gets camouflage

[thick summit]

All we have of rugops is its concept art

[livid shale]

Oh okay so in a few months then

Like i said ill come back tomorrow with a suggestion that will take more then a few months if it even gets recognized

Cya guys

[thick summit]

I wouldn't be so sure

[thick summit]

See ya!

If I had to guess I'd day 1-2 years until we get rugops

[gilded drift]

so you want megalania to be a cerato 2.0

[vague night]

with... a tripod stance

and also without the body camp buff/niche or charge bite

[latent olive]

the forward alt attack thing is probably going to be an RMB, where it grabs/latches onto something and injects venom

I do approve of the venom, far better than just boring stamina drain

it’ll also get a tailwhip which is nice

[vague night]

oh is the tailwhip confirmed? Like an iguana whip from the sideways facing stance

and yeah RMB makes more sense

[latent olive]

Kissen stated it’ll get one roughly a year or two ago

[vague night]

praise be to Kissen 🙏

[latent olive]

we also know it’s “slow and lumbering, until in range”

[vague night]

ah, so almost the exact description I gave then

in terms of speed at least

[latent olive]

it probably won’t get rearing up, sadly

[vague night]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[latent olive]

unless they give it sparring stance

[vague night]

Just maybe

[urban flax]

@ocean coral
Fun fact : Bucking does not drain the other dino's stamina, only yours
It just has a RNG-based chance of dropping them

[normal shuttle]

Such a great mechanic

[urban flax]

@dawn hound So purely visual gore ?

[limber hull]

adding more corpse physics to a game that traditionally has a vast majority of its performance hurt by corpse physics is a bold move

[urban flax]

But the idea is nice
More gore is good

Corpses tanking performance is a separate issue that needs solving either way

[dawn hound]

Where you could see if the corpse was eaten from, it rot or it turned into bones

A good way to optimize corpses lagging out others, is to make it so that they anchor onto the world once they stop moving, instead of being an active ragdoll. Once the corpse gets picked up, it would unanchor and could be dragged anywhere else untill it ragdolls again.

The Forest did this technique.

[urban flax]

What makes you think they don't already do this ?

[dawn hound]

They do?

[urban flax]

How would we know ?
The point of such a mechanic is that if it's done correctly it's impossible to notice

[dawn hound]

Well if the devs told us we would know. If this is already implemented into the game, then imagine how much more lag it would create if it wasnt implemented.

Well, another good optimization technique is maybe deleting those rocks that are under the map for no reason, or trees and rocks that are just bugging through stuff that makes them be almost unnoticable.

[urban flax]

I don't think that would solve much honestly
It's unreal engine 5, so everything under the map is probably not being rendered unless they're in your field of view anyway

Idk if the physics are what causes the corpses to cause so much lag, or if it's maybe a high amount of parameters and checks they need to tick constantly
Like maybe the rotting timers ?

[dawn hound]

Maybe..

The thing is, you can come across trees bugging out through rocks, mountain rock models being in one another, maybe those are the culprits to lag when you enter certain areas?

Another thing, the massive amount of trees everywhere that cover most of the map. Not saying jungles should be removed, but I dont think even herrera needs this many trees.

[urban flax]

I really don't think it's trees harming performance that much

They're static objects, they have pretty much nothing to do with server performance

[waxen crane]

In which update did the isle get nesting? (evrima)

[normal shuttle]

5

[waxen crane]

thank you

[junior nymph]

@smoky remnant thats not a admin,,,

thats just some player

@heady sable they are in HT

[heady sable]

well make it everywhereee

[junior nymph]

HT is a test server so they can test the mechanic they will add it to the main branch once the update comes out

[heady sable]

good whenever that upate comes out

[ocean coral]

Yea that’s not balanced at all

[frank tapir]

@winter geode what do you mean when you say semiannual content

[heady sable]

they only come out with stuff every 5 months or more

[frank tapir]

that is semiannual

and we I believe have always gotten more than 2 updates a year

[heady sable]

maybe 3 max..

[frank tapir]

since evrima's release

I don't really see the issue with the rate we've been getting updates

[heady sable]

it’s mad slow.

[frank tapir]

it's slowed down recently because they've been trying to alleviate the hacking issue

[limber hull]

Also they’re working on Rex which is a colossal undertaking in itself lmao

[winter geode]

half a joke, maybe its annual? lol jk. I know they consistently add content but its lackluster and not very exciting. by content i mean NEW content, aside from adding things to HT, the development speed feels so slow at times. The content they add in patches mainly consist of general bug fixes and quality of life additions. There's no dates listed or target dates for any for new content. Im not aware of a roadmap. Without it, it sorta gives the impression that the game is static and can be a indicator of slow development and fear of meeting deadlines. It also just doesn't give players anything to look forward to. Its not exactly a given negative but If you've ever played old overwatch they update cycles remind me of that. There would be a new Hero every couple years, a small balance patch every 6 months, no roadmap... At least the Isle teases the new dinos but there are never dates associated with it. Like the Isle as well, overwatch didn't really have a competitor. When marvel rivals dropped and they got outpaced with new content the game absolutely DIED. @frank tapir

[junior nymph]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZQd_ha9zlE bit outdated but also target dates for updates IMO are not good since people will just get even more mad at the devs if they dont release when they say they would. I Dont POT of BOB even do dates for content releases

[winter geode]

As a whole you really think a roadmap is unappreciated by players? If you look through the steam patches they tease SO MUCH CONTENT... but where is it? The devs must be working on so many different projects that it slows down the speed for the main projects. I dont understand why they would tease content and hold out YEARS to actually complete it and (maybe) add it to the game. It gives off well shoot we dont have anything ready so just throw a bunch of concept art in there and add miniscule changes to 1 or 2 dinos and call it a day. Lets hope thats enough