#isle-lore-theories
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That computer is the replicator...
erm
Under it
One last thing before sleep
If AE is in a competition with other companies, what are they competing for
^
I would say
AE is a possibly private gov. company, so if there are any leaks/new science discoveries and other companies try to utilize any AE's ideas, they are being removed to tartarus and their lineage displaced idk Im still sane enough to no- nvm
Thinking of, the server selection screen could be where AE facilities are located
Shirleys Kingdom
^
đ„°
no
rex with arms 3 times size, ez solve
Has this always been there ???
yes
can someone explain the Isle lore for me like in less than 100 sentences or summin?

The Isle Theory Document Created by: The Isaac? and Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin and The Isaac? Foreword by: 1tinydinosaur (PSA: Hyperendocrin is shortened as âHyperâ, though âHypoâ is often used) You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or removed. Bookm...
okay so AE or apollo engineering made dinosaur like creatures and human like creatures and the dinosaur like creatures live on an island or summin
Perhaps, maybe.
Also Garry didnt make it...
rip
rex?
Might be an allo
might be an allo
But also, it could be either one
But honestly, this is lorechat. No shadow discussion here.
arm discussion
I rather have plant discussion
actually they do have a fairly realistic form for the old, old growth ones
How long does it take a Kapok to grow to normal size?
depends, but they grow extremely fast
from what i can find up to 13 feet per year
and at full maximum height can get around 200 ft tall
or higher
however, i doubt that that thing is growing that tall in around 20 years
so, im gonna guess a more even 30-40 years for a good ol above-100 ft tree
cause normally trees dont grow very much in the first few years of life, and dont grow as much once mature size is reached either
all in all, a pretty average growth time
but featuring really fast growth
similar to hypers

also one of the largest trees in the world
and found this as well...
"These very large trees are in the Neotropics or tropical Africa. The Southeast Asian form of C. pentandra only reaches ninety feet (27 meters)."
Neotropics reffering to, basically south/central america
I wonder if some Kapoks on Gateway had accelerated growth. AE doing tests.
Botany sector when please 
please
I believed it to be just perimeter
Just dont look in Isle discussion
Funny enough, this game also had an operation inferno
mmmm
Peak tree
love those
it probably takes some time to create, and that first one was kinda just the trial run for this sort of community event
Although I'd be a bit surprised if we don't get something fun for rex release 
Itâs a single post it note with Shirley taped to it with grid coordinates of a manhole cover you can use to get early access to GUTS 
I dont think we are getting another lore hunt this year sadly 
from which video is that?
araucarias are called monkey puzzle trees in english??? đź xD
Dibble update trailer
A man can dream
If this arm discussion goes on its possible that Don sends us off on another lore hunt 
Our master plan is coming to fruition
oop
Whats that
wrong chat XD
oh, its the nest location
yeah
yea I checked it, nothing there.
Its a benefit!
well i guess im gonna roam around for something, even smallest, one smallest thing
Exactly
Wrong chat again!! @severe pond
xd
Tsk tsk
Yes. Supposedly some English nobleman had one on his estate in the 1800's and he'd invite his friends over to look at the exotic plants on his property. The story goes that when they saw the Araucaria one man said "it would puzzle a monkey to climb that tree"
Understandably so
These are also one of the most common trees seen in paleo art, with a distinctive "umbrella" shape
Derg has noticed a pattern!
All the cool people hang out here. 
this may be correct
Derg has noticed that derg was /invited/ here.
Does that mean derg is cool? 
Whose derg
Kachin is derg, pretty sure derg means dragon
Dergin! Dargon! Dragon!
Sometimes derg talks about himself from the third-person. 
What if that island is evrima
It is not
oH, LEGACY
Caps lock!!
Oh lol
W...wha?
evrima isn't even an island (I think?)
Gateway is the name of the current evrima island
Spiro was the old evrima island
đ
Lol
Leave my hangout alone. >:(
What.
Wouldnt it be cool if gen2 can take care of the ranger bases and basically remove foliage, fix fences, etc.

Yep
Wasnât fixing bases confirmed a while back?
Fences are confirmed, I wouldn't be surprised if there was more
Ah thatâs what I thought
Ah thats nice, then cleaning up the overgrown foliage is likely too
Btw do most bases have a generator somewhere?
I think so yes
Mobile generator goes brrrr
Get the jerry can jimmy! We need POWAH
Now Iâm thinking about electrified fences, and how much itâll actually be able to stop some animals
Slap a power generator on the back of the UTV and have a maintanance vehicle
Slap a mounted turret on the big rig
Anything that needs to bite the fences and are relatively small would probably not try to get in.
For example I dont think a Carno can break a fence, nor a cerato.
Agreed, Iâd imagine apexs can smash through, but will cause some pain to it
Yep
Also depends on the Voltage, if itâs like JP and itâs 10k, itâs not a fun shock
He literally started floating lmao
Mmm, doesnt say the voltage.
High radio frequencies...
I assume thats not actually lore- Right? And its just a placeholder thing
I'd say it could be lore
Anyways was looking at voltage and how deadly it can be, humans can survive 10k if the current is small enough, but a big current will kill you
Mmmm
So they are governed by the FCC? The Federal Communications Commission of the US?
Wasnât that the radiation thing that Isaac was talking about
No idea
So outside the bases the radio frequency levels are high? Or is that referring to inside the base. I assume outside tho judging by the side its on.
Probably anything within the perimeter of the base prob, proper protection would be needed Iâd assume but thatâs not my field of expertise
But the sign is inside the base, "Beyond this point", the sign is next to the gate leading to the outside

Again, not my field of expertise
Neither is it my field of expertise, Im just theorizing. But it makes sense if its outside the bases.
Ah here
Might be to prevent any potential radio signals from interfering with AEâs work, more to protect AE than to protect the workers
Ah, so a deterrent to dinos trying to get close to the base?
Sound alarm maybe
I just like the idea of âgetting near a base makes your Dino sick/hurtâ donât even need to touch fences
High Radio frequencies
I think itâs a proximity alarm
From trigger to the actual alarm
Unless you are an insane EIP asking for help 
Feral EIP
I dont get it
They trigger something, and then that sends radio waves to trigger lights and sirens
Also this perhaps makes the hazmat suits actually lore 
Maybe Don changed some stuff
Could be an alarm, or could be isaacs idea, with generators around every base it does make more sense for electrified fences and no radio wave radiation
I wouldnât be surprised if they actually do get put in game for lore reason, especially with stuff like âneuro gooâ
Why did AUGUSTUS not trigger an alarm then?
Motion capture ~ alarm
I dont think its an alarm
I donât think weâve had any indication the fences are electrified
No sirens, lights, etc.
No but thatâs what I mean, maybe fences arenât electrified and they use something else to ward off creatures
Like loud noises and lights?
The light

Would loud noises actually work? Ik in the real world, doing stuff like that actually works
Thought this could indicate it could be electrified
Not 100% of the time but it works
Maybe the fence isnt electrified, it contains a high level of radio frequencies somehow.
Makes sense for the warning
Thatâs what I mean
Probably wouldnât hurt, and even if it didnât scare them off, it would let everyone nearby know something is close
There is no "Electricity" warning at a base. Soo.. Perhaps..
Good point, Dino alarm actually sounds like something theyâd do
And AUGUSTUS was somehow immune to those radio frequencies 
I really doubt they use sirens.
Tbf idk how long it takes for radio waves to take effect
Could be longer than we imagine
Mmm idk
Some sort of alarm is probably a good idea
I looked them up
Basically they start to microwave you
You overheat, start to sweat, but your body heats up faster than you can naturally dissipate the heat
Not too terrible for short periods, but you don't wanna sit in it
Oh wait I can recreate that scene too! WE GOT GOATS
Ok so it wouldnât be an immediate effect, but still effective
Starts with a headache, like dehydration
Would also work in the game as a debuff of sorts
Just radio-affied
Yes, only in serious situations tho. Not when a dino gets close
I don't think they were using the dangerous radio waves as a deterrent, I think it's just a byproduct of the tech
I think the base fences were electrified
I think those lights are connected to radio transmission
Iâm just thinking of what cera said which is a good point, if they are electrified, they wouldâve certainly been on in AUGUSTUS, and he just, chills on the fences, not caring
was it on the fences?
Maybe H6 was abandoned
One scene yeh
Nighttime one , where you hear shirley 1 calling
close to a fence, but can't see if the camera is on it
Maybe but the lights are on, which usually indicates if a fence is electrified, Ik it can be for radio
Not this scene
I doubt the fences are electrified
Nextiirc
ah here
so hard to even tell if it's a fence, but it's got the red light
Yeh Iâm not 100% sure itâs on the fence to be Frank with you, but it seems like thatâs where heâs pouncing from
They arent
Good job pointing that out btw lol
Wonder is Apollo ever messed with quantum computing
Sounds like something theyâd do
Maybe itâs less about the fence and more about the box/light
Dinosaur alarm
Or it could just be an indication of the fence being on.
What does the fence do?
Emit radio frequencies (somehow)
Plot twist:theyâre using a neuro as security and using them to make the fences radioactive
For what purpose
What?
The towers emit the radio waves
the warning on the fences just tell you when you are nearing them 
Keep dinosaurs away from the bases perhaps
How does it do that?
Hold on
I really doubt the fences are emitting radio waves
Anything can emit radio frequencies
ok but we know they have a big complex radio system
Olympus transmitter
animal radio tracking
radio towers
and you're gonna say it's the fences?
I donât think itâs about the fences
The box is attached to the light
If its the radio towers then wouldnt the entire base be filled with the radio frequency too tho..?
yes, it would
Which is not the case with the sign
it's proximity
Youâre filled with radio frequency, because itâs everywhere, itâs why you canât charge a phone from across the room
The sign says that the radio frequencies are dangerous past the point of the fences, (AKA outside the base)
yes, like how signs at a base holding nuclear material would be located outside of the base, as a warning...
AE developed some sort of technology to increase the radio frequency of certain objects, fences. Somehow, idk.
But why tho
Keep dinosaurs away from bases
Nobody does anything without a reason
How
I don't know if y'all really know how radio waves work...
Its not the same warning
Itâs a type of radiation
it's not
like, straight up
at least not particle radiation
electromagnetic radiation, like light
I might have to check again, but the bottom text says you will literally be cooked beyond that point. Maybe I dont remember it correctly tho.
I always mix this up, my bad, radiation is a type of wave, like light, x-ray, microwave, and radio
Ahhh screw it gonna log on and check
Specifically gamma radiation
Is what Iâm referring to
Because thatâs the one most people seem to know
Bottom says
"Failure to obey all posted signs and --- guidelines for working in radio frequency environments could result in serious injury"
Hmm
ye it likely says that
The free admin server Im using literally just restarted so I cant even check 
Anyways, I still believe the fence could be emitting radio frequencies.
Why not the radio towers? Well they would just cover the entire base no? (Cover the entire base in radio frequencies)
I disagree
There is little to no reason for it
Mmmm
Light, xray, microwave
Are all radiation, just non-ionising
Xray being basically the limit before it's just pure dangerous
What are the radio frequenices in your opinion then?
Those are receiving radio frequencies, or, itâs a standard warning
I was correct, Iâm just really bad at conveying what I think lol
By standard warning are you referring to the sign?
Yes
So you think there is just a high level of radio frequencies for just a random reason? 
Radio tower
Most of the radio towers are within the ranger stations, the radio frequencies would go out in all directions. That means the radio frequency would also be within the base. Judging by the warning. It's only outside the base.
The high level frequencies are only outside the bases judging by the warning
Maybe tracking chips then
I doubt that too
I agree
But I donât think the fences themselves emit radio waves, it seems purposeless that way
Mmmm might be the little boxes on the fences. Or just the light perhaps? The red light. Not sure
Thatâs what Iâm thinking
But then AUGUSTUS 
What about him?
He got close to the base and climbed the fence.
My guess is that H4 was actually abandoned at that time ngl. No personal/employees in the base, just power running off the backup generators
Lol
no, they have a wide radius that extends to outside the base, hence the warning when you come into range
workers attending to the base would probably wear special hazmat-type suits with lead shielding
Might be why USER accessed externally
It also could be a precautionary sign, like the danger signs on forklifts and microwaves
I still think it's just someone accessing through their larger network
Possibly even rival company, and that's how they learned that there were dinosaurs, or anomalies (like Augustus)
I think so too
I mean
The warning sign is less of a "don't be silly and you could hurt yourself" sign
That seems like a horrible workplace lmao. Gotta maintain cars, file paperwork, etc in hazmat suits. Unlikely
Astronauts would like to have a word
I mean, the walls could be laced with aspects like lead to stop such radiation
perhaps the warnings are old or legally required, and Gen 2 are immune...
I also think that itâs a warning of potential danger, rather than a promise of harm
Hmm
Still
They refer to it exceeding FCC regulations
Tell them that I spotted an Alien on Mars and they should continue their expedition
It might just be long-term exposure is dangerous tbh
and they gotta have the warnings up for legal/HR reasons
Yes, exactly what Iâm thinking
I presume it'd be mid-long term
Radio waves are less powerful than xray and gamma
Perhaps gen2 are immune, yes, but then the buildings would suffer damage too. (I think)
proximity is a big thing with this kind of stuff too
If you are in a building 30 feet away the exposure danger is much lower than putting your butt on top of the transmitter
nah, but it might affect computers
but it's radio frequencies, so probably not?
Whats happening?
True
Debating a small sign
talking about this
#isle-lore-theories message
Mk
Do we truly know whats so different about Gen 2 than a regular human? What enhancements if any are there? I mean making them immune to this stuff could be useful
This is the part where Don comes in and says that sign is a placeholder and nothing about it is important

We dont
We just know that's its better
I mean they're still 5'9 so clearly worse in all aspects 
Some information
Iâm in
I'm in as long as there are snacks on the way
Slap 2 snickers at the end of the thousand life contract lol
this final panel seems particularly enlightening
Interesting
Mmmm, i read that
Or atleast glanced over it
Honestly the warning might just be a false alarm and it could be not lore.
It might just be like the CRT and other models
Yeah
Varies depending on your rank in the company
Final model
Just visual has some words that just are there as filler atm
Thatâs honestly prob the perfect height, being too tall is a thing and so is being too small
Low level access would probably be just a... a more exotic 9-5 job certainly..
Maybe closer to a military contractor or a oil rig worker where you live at work
6,1 sweet spot
Oil rig worker seems about right
lol this acronym has an additional meaning in the US now
Nah over 6 feet is hell when you get older apparently
Thatâs pretty tall, and most things are usually designed for people around 5 and a half? Something like that
Most things are designed for 6 feet
Gen 2's aint gonna last that long
In fact do they age slower or do they just not
Being too tall and large won't help in hiding from dinosaurs tbf
Unknown
Their bodies probably do sustain damage, but then
Just switch bodies..
I'd imagine they'd want to alter the pheromones released so that the dinosaurs don't smell the disgusting unshowered soldiers lmao
Semi-immortality with eips
Things like Doorways yes, not things like countertops, tables, chairs, doorways have no choice to accommodate for tall people
Reload last save 
Just the only difference is that you actually lose all the stuff if you died to a dinosaur 
Well you can probably retrieve it
Uh oh?
If we are talking about in-game aspects
Search it up..
Oh
No
What qualifications needed for AE?
Desperateness is a bonus
Desperate
Lost in life
No where to go
I still believe that AE can be counted as an evil company!!
Evil company with good intentions
Depends what you think is evil
I believe in meritocracy
How is AE evil?
If AE were real and you were ceo would you run it the way it is in the game
And dont say yes thats cap
I donât know enough about AEâs workings, but companies are made to profit
Some of what AE does is extremely messed up and other things are of consent of the employed
What does AE do thatâs so bad? 
I have several reasons that I stated several times, I unfortunately don't have the time to state them right now as I have to go now.
Good night people đ«Ą
Peace out
It was older stuff that we have started to disprove I believe so I take some of my statement back
You say murder via gen 1
I hear stopping a competitor from unrightfully stealing your assets
Not that part
Is it about EIPs or Thousand Life Contract?
Whatâs that don quote, something like
âIf I wanted to make an evil company game, Iâd continue playing resident evil instead.â
Canât remember exactly
*generic evil company
Thatâs what it was thankies
Idk resident evil lore anyway nightg
But that gives me enough room to play devilâs advocate
Basically making humanity better by injecting viruses that end up turning them into monsters
Some things might be worth the price
Like making the world safe from itself
Whatâs having a few people die a few thousand times if everyoneâs future is safe
Yeh itâs definitely not alike, iirc(havenât played resident evil in a while so bear with me) literally tests on human civilians
Iâd say that depends on exactly how recruiting for employment and whatever the Thousand Life Contract does
True but I donât see AE kidnapping people to test on them, if they signed the contract and knew what they were up against, thatâs completely different
So AE canât be evil then 
At least not âgeneric evilâ like don said
Rather, great things come with sacrifice
Nothing is built without cost
But if the profit is worth it, some can be convinced to try it
Mhm, I genuinely believe AE is trying to do the right thing, but have to go through those dark paths to get to where they want to be
But the other way around, saving the environment
But also still profit
Profit is usually one of the main reasons for any company, theyâd be downright dumb to not want any 
The only reason to do something other than money is pleasure or future gain, all of which the replicator could potentially offer
An artificial fountain of youth is extraordinarily tempting
This is very true though, lol. 50% of the time you hope there's no large pack of raptors, or a few carnos who want to try fighting 3+ cera's surviving together.
Makes me wonder how successful theyâve been, we know theyâre prob one, if not the biggest company irl, but are they billionaires? Trillionaires? Iâd imagine trillions if theyâve been In business for 50+ years and being successful
Actually scratch that
Forgot trillion is like 10 0s LOL
They seem to sell a lot of âessential to liveâ products, like medicine and food, those companies tend to do well on account of their consumers having no choice but to pay high prices
Yeh and if theyve been in agriculture business as well, thatâs one of the biggest incomes possible
Everyone needs to eat 
They may have rivals, but if theyâre one of a few giants in the industry, they arenât struggling for cash, as shown by the infrastructure on gateway alone
Yeh thatâs why Iâm thinking maybe theyâre rivals are the biggest, but AE is literally just steps away from surpassing them, and now theyâll do anything to ruin them
Or AE is on top and afraid to lose it
Mhm, if anything, itâs a fight for whoâs on top imo
Fight for survival at that point
I love that honestly, the survive doesnât just apply to us in the game, but also the companyâs motivation
Retake the island or fall behind and lose everything
Yeh which is a great reason for what we do,
âIf we donât take back our stuff, weâre all screwed.â
Sunk cost fallacy? Or can it actually be saved?
Also another thing, if this truly is âworld altering/endingâ kind of situation, they knew once they started, there was no turning back, which is kind of a scary thought
Maybe AE is the only one to know that âthe endâ is close?
Or, the end is still far off, but AE has to be the one to fix it
Mhm, cause if the rivals knew what they were doing, I feel like theyâd be âoh crap theyâre actually doing something for all of usâ
I can profit off of their work 
LOL,
Rivals:I saved the world(literally just took all of AEs stuff and marketed as their own)
What if the TOMB was purged to stop others from getting it?
Seems very likely honestly
Plus Iâm sure they have backups of sorts, download everything into TOMB .2 kind of thing
Maybe, but that also depends on the contents and what it was used for
erm but i patented the work!
Change it enough to be different and make it faster
Still sueable!!
Iâll report you for killing 15 of my employees via mutant human
erm, I'll report you for [REDACTED]
Nuh uh
by wil_iamr11
There should be a thing where humans go around with tranquillizer guns and hunting dinosaurs and putting then back in there cage. Which they also try break out again with and if they dont get out the humans have to feed them. and once to many dinosaurs get out of there habitat a alarm system goes of with order all of the people to leave the island and then theyll come back and try to get the island back under the control of them again. there will be a 5 player with you have to pay for which get forgoten on the island and they have a bulding mechanic so they can build bases and they try to get out . the workers have a job to keep the dinosaurs in there habitats and feed them the right a mount of food with has all the hex. They can also addAI humans with come and look at the animals than you can eat.
WHERE THEY WILL SPAWN
the babie dinos will spawn in a lab which the workers have to transport the dinosaurs to there cage once they get bigger enough at the age of juvenile then they get other release in to the big lands where herbivores and ai in gyrospheres go around. for the carnivores they get put into big habitats where ai humans can watch them and workers can feed them. and if they dont get feed they get a boost that makes them break out of there habitat easer
Sounds like Jurassic Park
Yep, but this isnât jurassic park, Iâll bet an unofficial server does something like that, but I highly doubt anything like this is intended for official servers/main game
Also, since youâre new, would you say that these are human?
From my current understanding, gen 2 gameplay will be closer to JP 2 or JP 3 rather than the original
Unofficials will probably take care of it, but that frankly sounds unfun for the dinosaur player imo
yeah but who wants to play a dino locked in a cage
its to break out again
im saying some offical servers could have this game mode or osmething
And Iâm saying I strongly disagree
why
The isle has itâs own lore, it doesnât need to be a JP ripoff
JW
Are we getting humans or humanoids is the better question looking at the art you posted Rumple got me curious lol
We are getting both
oooh
I could see more value in humans having much more difficult time surviving, should have it's own level of horror for sure, humanoids would be crazy lol looks like a genespliced raptor-human combo on the V1
Alrighty, so
Gen 2 are the ânormalâ humans, gun spawns and ammo will be rare, gameplay has been compared to dayz with dinos
Gen 1 are both the humanoids that youâve seen (there are likely many more) and they are created differently to do different things to protect AE in case someone were to go after them, I like to compare them to attack/guard dogs
Hereâs the basics, thereâs also a lore server and a podcast if youâre interested https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
The Isle Theory Document Created by: The Isaac? and Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin and The Isaac? Foreword by: 1tinydinosaur (PSA: Hyperendocrin is shortened as âHyperâ, though âHypoâ is often used) You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or removed. Bookm...
ooooh tyvm! podcast would be lovely while i grow đ
Another episode coming out soon too!
whoever is making the podcast i hope they are droping them into the #videos-and-streams
We usually
Me Still waiting this Dino reavel
I am going die before
What is tartarus?
Theorized to be a location where the most dangerous AE assets are contained. Workers who dont obey AE's rules/polciies get sent there to work there OR be test subjects.
Personally I lean towards the employees just having to work there is a punishment theory
In the augustus video there was a warning when opening the restricted file. Where it said your whole Lineage will be brought to tartarus. So they bring your family there too?
Perhaps, or they kill your entire lineage 
Dang
There are these things in the lore known as "EIP's", and we theorize that they are potentially a form of technological immortality
So in that context "lineage" might not mean your family, but your line of downloaded brain scans
Basically they take away or prevent your immortality from working
I'm so glad they finally teased my fave dino minmi
I actually like that thought
wtf the isle lore is crazy when did all that come about?
over the years, through small comments or releases of info
sometimes through dedicated lore videos
Bits and pieces every now and again
Piece by piece, and then we also get major lore videos
Oooo
I like that theory, first time hearing it
I bring it up every time we talk about lineage displacement 
That short memory span go brrrr

Also, I did a little research into âsentientâ ai
I really donât think that the replicator would be a artificial general intelligence, because AE could do it to quickly learn how to do anything or fix any problem, the replicator seems fairly limited in itâs ability
DON'T STEAL MY SIGNATURE EMOTE 
(i'm just kidding it's fine
)
Just noticed that in every single hyper fence there is a pathway inside them. Very interesting
A Tunnel
yeah you can access them in a few places
there is one near east plains with some stairs leading up to a doorway into it
Not great for the integrity

You be glad you have two.
Quetz has none.
đ
There, a quetz emote
Its a chicken, food.
Shoot out at things from the safety of inside, I donât imagine many things in the island can break in

Only one Matriarch emote and itâs not from here
Is this channel /strictly/ for lore, or is it also "basically #general but like only the people who know what's up come here", owo?
uhhh both
We get off topic a bunch, which is part of the reason I made lorecord
But is off-topic welcome here in particular, owo? Like, if I want to talk about game balance stuff but get conversation with people who actually read posts and isn't just an echochamber, is that kewl? 
I think itâs best we tryyyy to keep it to lore stuff?
Do not start gama balance conversations here 
We hate balance conversations
Yes
Keep it lore themed
owo.
Is there anywhere that's, uh, like #isle-discussion but more producction-focused? owo?
Well balancing would go in #balance-feedback and #balance-feedback-discussion 
Ok moderator, sorry.


Nuh, not quite that. Uh, I'm trying to, uh.. Gosh Iunno how to ask this question without sounding like a prude. <w<'
Derg appears cute and playful constantly. This is because derg has no faith in #i-d to be able to handle deeper discussion (including "if it does somehow start, it'll get derailed quickly by people who honestly can't recognize what's going on".), so derg tries to keep conversation very very simple to avoid making people angry.
Derg still wants a #general chat, but with people that derg doesn't feel like he has to walk on eggshells around emotionally.
That way, derg can feel less-afraid to disagree with people, or to ask questions for curiousity's sake without people assuming that derg has an agenda or has already formulated an opinion, owo.
This channel seems to fit what derg wants, emotionally, but derg doesn't wanna break rules either. 
Time for the annual theorizing if weâll get something on December 7th
Why 7, owo?
Yeah why December 7th
OH THE DATE
But what if its Day/Month/Year
Then weâve already missed July 12
Also what if thats not even a date
Sector 12 -> Sector 7 sort of thing?
Very weak passcode
Yeah 
Yeah, very short
Also what does R/D mean again?
Research and Development? Idk I used google to check
Could be Sector numbers like Rumple said
Whatâs that âdo not permit them to enterâ
Whatâs the them? 

So it has to be humanoid and/or have the ability to communicate the point of a normal human understanding them.
Could it be something with mimicry as well though?
That or theyâre saying like âdonât let in those gen 1 theyâre for airdropping not friendshipâ
Mmmm
Microwave
I believe it could be gen1 honestly
The line under that also makes me think of mimicry, that âyou should not hear an echoâ
Would gen 1 be intelligent enough to form human speech or mimic it, I wonder
Gen1 being able to communicate in some form, very poorly.
And I wouldnt doubt if some tired human at 3 AM would think that its a real human outside.
Perhaps yes
And if they are intelligent enough to do that. I wonder if they are smart enough to take orders and understand commands.
Oh god.. why am I leaning towards @lethal moat s theory of gen1 being like dogs 
What if they are trainable 
Can listen, does it always? No.
Yeah exactly
Where can I get a guard gen 1
Maybe the gen1s that are in that facility, or outside ig. Arent the trained ones.
Trained Gen1s are perhaps in a different facility
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE GUARD GEN1s EXIST!
it was a GUARD DOG JOKE
But perhaps being able to train Gen1s a few simple commands
Attack.
Stand back.
Retreat.
etc
The attack command could just be...
"Destroy everything in your sight" 
Yeah gen 1 wouldnât necessarily have to be like dog level intelligent
You can train any animal that has a concept of a reward system
You can train a fish.
But this paper was from years ago...
The paper released in 2172 wdym
Exactly
You: Kill anyone in that base and get some food and entertainment in the process.
Me: Gets rid of a few rivals.
But it's already past July 12th! 
People let wild animals into their houses sometimes, owo.
Have you ever consider tuning a fish? 
Quickest unmute Iâve seen

What unmute? What happened? o.=.o?
Nothing, minor inconvenience 
Derg wants to know of the humor, share laughter with derg! D:
Back to lore

Because it works well
Semi-intelligent beings with similar structure but still variation to do specific tasks, being used to guard and attack things, itâs a doggo
Very little guarding, mostly just attacking in my opinion
The best defense is a good offense
Exactly
"oh sh did you hear about AE destroying EC's island and killing all of its employees?"
"We aint messing with AE"
A good deterrent 
Ik theyâre still trying to fix it
I'd bet EC puts their money into whatever their company does rather than security so they'd get clapped
I would assume nothing considering we donât even know the company name lol
Or just that gen1 overpower a few people being stunned in shock because of 8 feet tall humanoid creatures killing everyone 
Everyman Corp....
I swear if Don wasnt joking..
Nah, Iâd win
And just like that, Ceratoâs gone
ok "BioSyn" !!
whats everyones thoughts on cannabils?
which ones
Oh, those ones
technically no longer called Cannibals
But yes.
They're quite interesting
what are they called again?
not much on them yet
we know a lot more, though, on their pals the Gen1s though
unofficially [the] "Eyeless"
but officially - no name exists yet in the public
ive got a lot of questions on them
but their official name, if still true to Dondi, relates to how we might acquire one of them/or it's use
I think they are talking about gen1
We should give this man an invite
We might have some answers, want an invite to the lore server?
I gave him one idk if he joined or not
đ
Look in here and accept message request from Catag or Rumple
I sent dm
Ye that
Now fill in the roles and you'll be done
Now swarm and feed on them
Unleash the kraken
Charybdis plz

Thats either a typo or a species of marine life
Or some european city
Greek monster
Ah
My actual nightmare holy crap
Better Kraken đȘ
Thallasophobia kickin in
I need all the information about this staircase, tell derg of it's secrets! 
Goes up to what is believed to be a major GUTS entrance
Its staircase that leads up to the volcano bunker
Well yes, a GUTS entrance correct.
Volcano bunker is the unofficial community name.
Thank. -w-.
Described as a sort of Gen 1.5, likely upgraded by the replicator in exchange for service from a gen 1
Perhaps that ^
Maybe instead of a mutation system for gen1s, its a sacrificial system.
Sacrifice x for y ability
Or just a simple buff
I like idea, weâve brought it up before, itâd be cool if your model changed depending on what you got, thicker skin, barbs on your wrist, etc
Maybe someday
Climbing gen 1 just gets Baryonyx level talons on itâs hand sounds cool as hell
The danger toe beans
Drip mutations vs functional mutations
Imagine a modern combat gen 1, with nvgs strapped on and armor plates storming a base
cats get stuck in trees because it is easier to climb up than climb down
squirrels can go down headfirst because they can reverse their ankles
Toe thumbs
Semi-Aquatic Gen1 Mutation:
Develops webbed feet
I hope so, that sounds fun
I kinda want Gen 1 to be the mutation playable
It has extra powerful and specialized versions of mutations, so it's like you are picking a lifestyle entirely
"Hydrodynamic"? Now you are streamlined with webbed toes and hands
I want that to be the case with Dinosaurs too
In that vein, I kinda wonder if the "Eyeless" have something to do with the infrared mutation
I'd like some physical changes, but it would be cool with Gen 1 if they were really dramatic
I agree with tiny, dinosaurs sort of have a set niche when they start out, I want gen 1 to be uber customizable
CETI!!
yes?
ceta... ceti...
no..
Climbers
Eyeless has something to do with Neuros and human stuff in general in my eyes
Etac...itec
cata...catag
DNA
I'm in the isle menu screen!
ngl it's kinda wild spending so much of my adult life just working retail, and now working in biotech and having serious conversations about mutations and strains
The isle was always the place you were meant to be in. 
I'd sign the contract if I got to be tisso
Depends on what the contract is
We just know the name!!!
We can only assume what it can be
Let hyper deino be Charybdis and the tisso carno scylla
Definitely spelled the last one wrong
Small world huh
Thatâs the wrong expression 
Am tired
yay
You đ«”
uh oh
What are your opinions and theories on the eyeless
I think they donât have eyes 
i mean
oldest one is that they're just Echidna's Gen1 minions, properly
or at least, higher tiered Gen1s for/made by/"fixed" by Echidna
(you beat me to it)
I need them! 
Nuh uh
If strain testing is separate from other projects, wonder how that âmother of cannibalsâ title has changed
I don't think it changed tbh
Or at least I don't think the "mother of" part didn't change
No
We might not even see the juvi version
What if gen1 are created in their adult form
I know, I kid 
or aged-up in a vat
(basically the same thing)
I wonder how we'll end up seeing the more monstrous parts of lore in-game
Like just documents and lore stuff on Matriarch and Echidna? Or do you think we'll actually see them as in-game models? NPC's? Raid bosses? Gen 2 mission stuff?
Playable?
tbh I want stuff like Echidna and Matriarch to be random event NPC's
yeah, or if so it has to be extremely hard to get
Matriarch has escaped tartarus.
Survive.
If you manage to survive you get x mutation 
chilling on a branch as a Herrera when I see a genetic abomination walking below
(it doesnât know Iâm going to dropkick it in the head)
(The Herrera is dead, it just doesn't know it yet)
TBH it would be cool if everyone on the server was notified, like the current announcement system for server restart warnings
Yeah
!!!ATTENTION ALL AE EMPLOYEES!!!
ASSET: MATRIARCH HAS BREACHED TARTARUS CONTAINMENT
SPECIMEN IS CONSIDERED DANGEROUS AND EXTREMELY HOSTILE
SECURITY PERSONNEL: AWAIT FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS
TEST SUBJECTS: SEEK REFUGE IMMEDIATELY
Make the announcement appear as a glitch just like in legacy
When devs made announcements the screen became glitchy and there was the typewriter style effect on it. Really cool
If so I want to be there or I want one of the lore people to record it
If something like that happens and the entirety of lorecord misses it, I will be very sad
Is this an indication for me to constantly start recording my sessions in order to not get kicked down into Tartarus

Perhaps
Considering we are probably a few years away from this kind of stuff, I don't think you have to hurry 
I mainly play on NA 4 and 5
And Petits Pieds, an unofficial server
But yeah, we are years away from that kind of stuff 
Damn, 8 people are interested in this next podcast episode, might be a good one to sit in for 
I swear I just heard a gate open and a human voice
I AM NOT
Going insane.
Im near perimeter entrance
Kowalski, analysis
Ok so Im not sure about the human part, but.
I definitely heard a gate opening sound
Probably metal creaking
The "Human" sound was like a "mhe". Idk how to describe it.
And my brain is telling me that there was an echo 
But thats just me being crazy probably
It was not an allosaurus, it was a rex.
What
Yes, the trailer was a Rex. The Dibble team was a allo
Ah
@lethal moat I suggest you to wake up
I got the thingy
Yeah there's soo many cars without wheels and doors
Sorry Isaac, you might have to suffer
Iâve got work, I trust you guys to fill me in later, glad to see another dev stream 
I might join if it weren't 6 hours before I gotta get up for work đ©
Bet, Iâll have someone in lorecord make a summary later, probably Shadow and Cera
I'm recording the entire stream
Won't post it on YT ofc, will have it for personal use
AYE GUTS entrance
yeah I asked filipe once if it was intended to be a mystery or if it was unintentional and he said it was intended
and with allo teasers getting shown shortly after
obviously the allo for the dibble trail cam, and sub adult ish rex for the trailer
Was good tho, happy to see the docks in actual gameplay
The rex calls were nice too
the buildings are cool
So now we basically know that there are different levels of GUTS. (Their underground levels)
I wonder, would there be giant elevators in the GUTS system that moves people from level to level. Or will they slope up/down
Was really hoping don would explore the buildings a bit more, maybe next stream
Next week we pray
When he went Herrera I wanted him to jump on the cranes
Mmm, its fine. We will just need patience
Overall great stream, Iâm sure thereâs a lot in store for us ,
Also cera changes seem to be in the works
Pff
Autocorrect stinky
Needed sewer pipe lore 
hahah true
Was that you asking about sewers nonstop LOL
Nah lol
Someone kept mentioning pipes and sewers, figured it was you but ig not
Cryptid
Would've been neat to see how NV interacts with it but I dream
Interacts with pipes? Probably dark
Was hoping to learn if stegos can destroy fences as well but didnât get my answer 
Whoever supplies AE with fences making bank
Or, really anyone supplying building materials
Plot twist:AE makes them
They can
I literally told you 
Or well they can ingame right now
Only stego broke it
Plus you said itâs still that one fence , which could be bugged
You just didnât sound too sure last time that it was legit lol
Ye I thought that all fences were able to be broken with that patch.. appearently not 
Gimme the breakable fences
Cama doesnât attack, just tramples fences
nuh uh, Shirley < Cerato lore
Gimme some cerato lore before Shirley 
YOU TECHNICALLY GOT YOUR CERA LORE FIRST! So HA!
Yep
I saw rump say âmatriarchâ
Ooo, we saw a more complete version of GUTS?
yep
Well its still just an entrance
Nice, Iâll have to check it out on my lunch break
But its more advanced than the rectangle shaped entrances
đ
There wasnât any GUTS tunnel near that area before was there?
Nope, its new
It was, I brought it up twice before I left
Yeh was gonna say, donât remember seeing any over there in admin mode previously
Very cool
yep
Also cera, that base is still under the map correct?
Havenât been on Shirleyâs since before ht
This version, yes.
Ok was wondering if maybe they used some of the buildings in that base for docks
But guess not

Might have been a marker
Yeh Iâm guessing the same now
Merc OLD and Merc
Also the GUTS entrance is the only entrance to the docks, there isnt even a fence around the place
Well there is in some parts
This is like a Checkpoint- kind of?
Probably just basic security.
Iâd like it to be some sort if warehouse/processing area before connecting to larger GUTS system so that processed materials can be distributed
Same
Yay
They are everywhere
That little building in the center does look like a guardhouse, maybe you can open that door from there?
Clearance pass
Think something like regular entrances would be clearance level 1-2?
Got to let Craig the forklift operator do his job
Likely
Yeh since it would be the perfect transportation method without needing to drive on the terrain of the islands
And also
Im thinking they would use giant elevators to be able to move their vehicles from x level to y level
Or they could just slope up/down.
Maybe, tho Iâd assume elevators are to go very deep, aka high level clearance is needed
Switchback tunnels in GUTS could be fun, come around a blind corner
I just realized, I forgot to ask if the Rex was Shirley.
I hml
Confused by that question
If the Rex at the end was Shirley
The one with the tires?
Ah yes
No not the stream stinky the damn trailer
oh
Lol
Every time thereâs a stream, itâs always nice to see lorecord get a little boost of activity
Anyways, Dockyards, do the sewers enter the ocean and can I do mission impossible gen 2 run
I can check
Ok so after rewatching the PT sequence at .5 speed.... uhh
I think it goes out into the ocean 
Man lore has been pretty dead lately
I mean the camera wasnât too long ago
Felt like 2 years instead of 2 months
Vat showcase would be epic
Dondi forgot about it again
I have like 3 main lore questions to ask him, but for some reason I always forget to ask him when hes in chat

My current thought is âWhat initially made AE think strains were necessaryâ
Medicine testing,
Thats my guess
What ailment specifically
Also did anyone check if the Herrera dwellap sequence is a morse code 
i totaly agree with what cerato said about herras dewllap a bit after 1:00 around the allo 1 call thing
and someone who knows morsecode should check that
Hypers having to do with growth.... and also being basically like cancer tbh.
Neuros related to like nervous system medicine, that effects the nervous system idk.
Tissos related to healing medicine.
Ok ima go check
Ok yeah in my short investigation I believe that there is no morse code.


