suggestion-discussion

[crimson river]

the question is not wether or not you should ad it, you're the creatives, the question is if it reflects the average valheimers wish.

[wanton atlas]

the avreage valheim player is not a game designer

[versed sonnet]

It's good to see some things never change 😂

[crimson river]

Who on earth has said that? where do you get this stuff from?

[rose swan]

There’s no way even 1% of Valheim players are game designers, right?

Probably far less than that even, if I were to guess.

[crimson river]

Probably much less

but 100% of them are game players

[versed sonnet]

I've seen some brilliant suggestions that were very popular back when I was an active regular, but what I've come to terms with is just letting IG make the game they wanna make. If players start having more more say in what should be added to the game, it'll start to lose its identity.

Suggestions aren't a "added by popular demand", just merely a community think tank for the devs to glance through for some possible inspiration they think would work.

The votes just help create community involvement

[rose swan]

There’s alot of really cool and fun ideas that would be super great in the game, but sometimes they just aren’t feasible for IG to add, even if it’s something they want. For example, a lot of players want waterfalls and lakes, but the engine just doesn’t allow for it.

[arctic wharf]

Well.... It does but, the implementation has some less than ideal implications. Water with actual physics as you deform the terrain on the other hand, that isn't feasible.

[versed sonnet]

Aw man this feels like I went back in time a year lol, how've yall been?

[rose swan]

Pretty good, how about yourself? Long time no see lol

[crimson river]

i want terraria-like water please.

[arctic wharf]

Still around just chillin and being sure to keep up the votes. A real blast from the past would be some suggestions bingo

[versed sonnet]

Just been busy, haven't touched valheim in a hot minute so I've lost interest in the discord, but I'm plannin another playthrough here in like a month or so, so will probably be active again

I think i had the next round of bingo cards ready to roll but got busy with work lol

[rose swan]

Ever since you left us for enshrouded 🙄 kidding lol cool to have you back.

[versed sonnet]

To be fair, it is a pretty fun game, but its different enough to not scratch that itch valheim gets so well lol

[rose swan]

I hear you though, life got ahold of me for awhile as well. I kinda just started getting back into the swing of Valheim again recently myself.

[arctic wharf]

To be fair, there is only so much gameplay to be had and many many other games to play. No one should stake so much of their time or identity on Valheim 🤭
Can see this sort of stagnation happen from those valheim youtubers lol

Will do one more big playthrough with DN and 1.0 for sure

[versed sonnet]

The Valheim youtubers got plenty of other open world games that are similar enough so they can keep making content at least.

I just think it's cool that after Valheim caught lightning in a bottle similar games have started to sprout up

[granite geyser]

Hi

[errant wedge]

actually i'm curious, what are some features, patches and other additions that have been affected by player suggestions? I haven't been very in the loop about those 👀

[rose swan]

Crossbows, lox riding and the obliterator are some features that I think were affected by suggestion, IF I’m remembering correctly lol

(Emphasis on think, take this with a grain of salt)

[granite geyser]

They were

[granite geyser]

#suggestion-discussion message

[versed sonnet]

chickens were a big one early on, but yeah they do pull from here.

There was another one that was very specifically pulled for something to do with how the map icons work iirc

[rose swan]

Oh yeah, the cartography table. Chickens too yeah, wasn’t sure if that was inspired by suggestions or not. Couldn’t remember.

[versed sonnet]

i think smiffe used to use it as an example for the question

[errant wedge]

oh yeah, i remember the cartography table being a big one in the early days! 👀

[versed sonnet]

But who also knows how many would've been added anyway without the suggestions, it's not like most of the suggestions that are implemented are super out of the box and original.

Not tryin to be a negative nancy, but it's something to think about

like how different would the game be if they didn't take suggestions

[wanton atlas]

Chickens was made before before the first time it even was mentioned back in like 2021 🤔

they just where put in icebox

[rose swan]

@arctic wharf @versed sonnet I made a bingo card if anyone wants to check it out 😂

[versed sonnet]

hell YEAH

[versed sonnet]

I suppose I did indeed not remember correctly lol

[rose swan]

Just sent it to you, if anyone else wants the bingo board let me know lol

[rose swan]

#suggestions message Huh, the anvil is a little high 🤔

[long glacier]

#suggestions message there is a black metal pickaxe but it’s in the biome ahead of plains

[lofty wave]

⬆️ @sterile condor

[sterile condor]

oh ok

[hollow elm]

@sterile condor I'm totally with you! #suggestions message One of the things Valheim does badly is provide a sense of predictability in order to drive enthusiasm toward progression. There's no standard set of build pieces that we can look forward to on the next material discovery; there's no intuitive indicator towards what foods might be available in the next biome; discovering a new crafting table just requires us to stumble across the complete set of materials required. Mini-quests like 'Dyrnwyn' seem enticing, but have no value for anyone that has a non-sword build.
Why would we expect a black metal pickaxe to become available in Mistlands? Black metal is a Plains ore. I'm not suggesting it should be available in the plains, just that we should have some kind of indicator that it's worth pursuing as an upgrade in Mistlands.

[versed sonnet]

needing iron in plains is probably one of the larger offenders of this.

Like who would've thought you need a resource from 2 biomes previous to make that biome's tier of armor.

I do think it does kinda help with replayability though, each time you play again you know how to prepare better

[stiff stag]

Considering iron is such a versatile metal in general, I figured it was common sense that it would have continued use well after the biome it was obtained in.

[versed sonnet]

This do be true, but at the time you run into it, it's just unexpected.

I believe it's the first time you run into that level of required backtracking in the game, which just felt weird because black metal is so abundant

[granite geyser]

If only there were many more sources of it the iron grind would feel less annoying.

We only have one more in mistlands, I wish ashlands had another

[stiff stag]

I do get what you mean by that. I also expected black metal in places where iron was used instead.

[hollow elm]

Sure, I'm not totally opposed to that. But how about an iron/black-metal alloy for a few pieces?

[versed sonnet]

it's not necessarily bad, I like having reasons to go back to previous biomes sometimes, but the sheer amount you end up needing in plains just kinda felt a lil unfair when you first come across it.

You conquered swamps, mountains, and are just starting plains only to find out ya gotta go spend a few hours grinding out iron in swamps again

It's been awesome how much more content swamps has gotten/is getting though, definitelty helped make it less of a slog and a bit more entertaining

[sterile condor]

i dont think that needing iron for the padded armor is bad at all, i feel like thats the same as saying its dumb that u use wood in ingredients past meadows/forest

you honestly should have just stockpiles upon stockpiles of iron if youre planning ahead

[stiff stag]

Regular wood is obtained practically everywhere, iron is not.

[sterile condor]

thats not the point tho, the point is its a staple ingredient in structure recipes and weapon/armor recipes

[hollow elm]

Here's my issue with Black Metal - where did the Fulings get it from? Why don't we have access to their mining source? Is Black Metal just Fuling poop and they want to collect it for some reason? Are the Fulings just smithing geniuses and have found a way to combine existing elements into Black Metal?

[arctic lily]

That is exactly the point. That it's used in so much throughout the game that its grind gets singularly repetitive.

[versed sonnet]

oh for sure, but we're talking about first time playthroughs where's there's no way to really predict needing that much of certain resources in the future. Once you know what's coming though you're completely correct

[stiff stag]

It's their dark souls taking solid form after death.

[versed sonnet]

and you can burn through iron at insane rates prior to plains already with how much you use it for just swamp tier gear

[hollow elm]

This is huge. Hording 'stone' on a second playthrough makes the game a lot easier when you're able to craft the Stonecutter.

[sterile condor]

idk i dont even think i got a thousand iron in total, and i have a base built out of stone/wood iron beams, a full set of upgraded iron armor, and iron weapons. i dont see how u can burn through that much iron while still in the swamp biome unless youre making insanely large bases or wasting iron on arrows

plus ive made several different longships, and only just now im needing to go back into the swamps for a bit to get some iron for my padded armor upgrades. but its not that big a deal imo

[hollow elm]

1,000 iron is maybe 12-20 Sunken Crypts.

[rough dirge]

Why are people downvoting the boar feeding bug?

[sterile condor]

im saying i didnt get that much. i got like a total of maybe 11-12 stacks? maybe more? so like 350-400 ish?

[versed sonnet]

first time I played it was a big deal because the scrap piles took forever to mine til they got updated so I probably got an unfair bias lol

[arctic lily]

I haven't voted one way or the other, but I've never seen such a thing. Boars always eat just fine. Are yours agitated? They won't eat when agitated.

[rough dirge]

Boar tower

They don't have much space to move around so I have to throw the food very specifically

[sterile condor]

ya i do remember them being kinda difficult to mine, we had like 3 ppl hacking away at one pile when i played with my group. but now i mean even a bronze pickaxe at lv 1 can instantly break one section of a pile. it doesnt take that long to clear crypts once u get an iron pickaxe especially, the only way i see it being bothersome is if u dont have portal mods.

so many ppl run mods tho i just assume portal mods are on the list

[arctic lily]

Then that's going to be your design not matching the mechanics somehow. I stay away from the cheese farms. Hurts immersion and would make it too minecrafty.

[sterile condor]

how so?

[rough dirge]

My design is fine. The issue is how difficult it is to aim food, that food goes through walls and that the boars won't eat things in their own square

I get not everyone likes this stuff but some of us do. And this is clearly a bug

[hollow elm]

Which part?

[rough dirge]

He's building everything in stone

[sterile condor]

hoarding stone being easier once u get stonecutter

[arctic lily]

Maybe try one of the bugs channels with specific info?

[rough dirge]

Oh didn't notice that

[hollow elm]

No, that's not what I meant. I'm saying that, in early game, when you're grinding away at copper veins, terraforming areas for your base, and removing large stones that are in the way of your new house, you might be inclined to just discard the stone you gain on your first playthrough. Subsequently, you know the value of stone and horde it ahead of entering the swamp and finding the resources to make the most of your stone.

[sterile condor]

hoard*. horde is a group of ppl

[versed sonnet]

yeah we ain't necessarily talking about how some of the backtracking progression can feel unfair if you want to advance or do something, just sharing examples of things where you can't predict how you'll need certain things again in the future, or be able to predict upcoming items well, like blackstone pickaxes not being in plains, but they're in the next biome

[sterile condor]

also ye i see what u mean now. i jsut thought u meant unlocking the stonecutter gave u access to a better way of storing it lol

[sterile condor]

ya definitely, the unpredictability of what you have access too later on is rough. but idk maybe its just me personally but i always have my "just in case" stash, only reason i dont have iron rn is cause i just rushed to the next biome so that ones on me

i wore my iron armor for like a day and then discarded it for my wolf/fenris armor sets

[arctic lily]

I mean, it's a survival game. Isn't the rule to never throw anything out? 🤣

[sterile condor]

only thing i throw away are trophies that arent included in any recipes that ive unlocked thus far

[arctic lily]

Of course it's never structly true. At a certain point, Thor gets his cut.

[sterile condor]

xd

i made the mistake early early on of getting rid of a bunch of leather. then i got to the swamp. not ever doing that again

[versed sonnet]

It's probably one of my favorite things in the game, the learning curve where once you start figuring out the efficent ways to do things you create your own quality of life

[sterile condor]

btw grizzly off topic but at first glance your pfp looks like hulk getting ready to punch the living fuck out of someone lol

[versed sonnet]

I used it as a joke because someone made fun of me for not having a pfp or banner lol

just kinda stuck because I still find it funny

[sterile condor]

lol

[thorny hound]

The first thing sounds familiar to the pics of the new swamp structure?👀

Coincidence or not, still excited to see what it is

[wanton atlas]

If you decide to cheeze the game. and then the game doesn't do what you want it do to. it's not a bug.
and also, don't put bugs on #suggestions. they go into https://www.valheimgame.com/support/

[rough dirge]

I am not cheesing the game, I'm just minimizing the space in my base

What's the difference between a tower and a regular pen from a power perspective. They both produce the same amount of meat

[wanton atlas]

boartower is cheezing

[long glacier]

Most boar tower designs trick the game’s system and allows way more boars to spawn than would normally be allowed

[wanton atlas]

if we wanted you to have unlimited boars in a 1 squaremeter area. we wouldn't have added a radius limit

[rough dirge]

I still don't understand how that matters. Having extra boars just means you don't need to kill them immediately. It's the same carrot to meat ratio and the same time requirements

[long glacier]

It’s a lower time requirement because you can be out of base for longer and your rates will never drop

[rose swan]

Boar towers just aren’t an intended mechanic. If you choose to use them, that’s perfectly fine, but development shouldn’t cater to them.

[rough dirge]

Why would I be out of my base for longer when I have portals? Do you have more then one bed?

[wanton atlas]

if you just mass produce boars without stopping it. you can make your entire base area make your computer / Xbox console unplayable. reducing your FPS to sub 5 FPS basicly turning into a slideshow

we don't want that to happen

[long glacier]

Going out on a long exploration or boat without wanting to portal back to base whenever the boars are capped

[rough dirge]

Ok. Well I'm not trying to do that. Its a pain in the ass already making even a medium sized base without some blocks. I'm just trying to keep the base small enough that the roof doesn't collapse

[rough dirge]

I'm building a portal every time I stop the boat. It's crazy not to

[long glacier]

I’ve frequently sailed massive distances (long enough for boars to be capped) without stopping while looking for a specific biome, finding traders, and transporting metals

[rough dirge]

Sure but would that extra meat even matter? I already have more then I need and I don't even have a working tower

[long glacier]

If you have more than enough boar meat and leather there’s no reason to build a farm at all

[rose swan]

I have two 2-star boar farms at my main base, can confirm they produce waaaaay more goods than I would ever need. I only tend to them because I enjoy it and it’s immersive for me.

Towers are ||LAME||

[rough dirge]

I have enough boar meat because I have a farm. I want a tower cause I like the look of it, not because having thirty stacks of boar meat will make defeating trolls easier

And I started building the tower once I got my 2 stars in. I already had enough from a zero star farm.

[long glacier]

So why did you build the 2 star tower

[rough dirge]

Cause I am a prick that enjoys animal abuse
And I like the fung shu of it

[long glacier]

If you just want a tower to have a tower, you don’t need to fill it with boars

[rough dirge]

I am still waiting to hear how having the tower will make me too powerful

Can I kill trolls with eye beams because i have additional meat?

[long glacier]

Fair enough, although I think you can understand why the devs don’t support this

[rough dirge]

I really don't

[long glacier]

They are a method of getting around an intentional game mechanic, meaning the developers won’t make them easier to build

[rough dirge]

There are zero balance issues with allowing towers. If people enjoy making them then let people enjoy playing the game how they like rather then telling people how to enjoy a game

Honestly I am getting annoyed that I need to justify myself here

[long glacier]

That’s why the devs haven’t changed the system to prevent them

[rough dirge]

That or preventing them would be more work then they are willing to do

[rose swan]

What’s the underlying issue?

[rough dirge]

Boars get confused about how to eat when they have limited space to move
And aiming when dropping items is really poor

[rose swan]

That’s not a bug though, yeah?

[long glacier]

You’re suggestion is making them more consistent, the devs disagree with that because towers aren’t intended to exist

[long glacier]

It causes problems with feeding the breeding boars in towers

[rough dirge]

My suggestion is to fix the bug. If developers want to insist on telling players how to enjoy the game, then I think I know why this game is so unpopular

[rose swan]

But it’s not a bug, yeah?

[rough dirge]

It is a bug

[thorny hound]

you are entitled if you think the devs should cater to how you want to play

[rough dirge]

Frankly the difficulty in placing building parts alone is enough to make me want to delete the game. For a minecraft style game, building is incredibly cumbersome

[rose swan]

If the developers claim it’s not a bug, then it’s not a bug, right?

If the tower/game is frustrating you, maybe consider an alternative?

[rough dirge]

Yeah that is a good idea. I am done with this game

[rose swan]

If it’s not for you, that’s ok! Best of luck 🤞

[long glacier]

Seems kinda petty to leave the game over an exploit being buggy, but goodbye

[sour hill]

I got convinced in a playthrough by a friend to make one of those towers, it was easy to do, did not follow any guide, gave them some space, had 3 of them up there and just had holes so babies would fall, had no issues with anything. It did make getting meat a lot easier but we destroyed that eye sore when we had enough

My point is, it's a skill issue not a bug

[wanton atlas]

I tried it for 10 minutes.
I got no issues with boars eating anything on the floor. even if I lock it inside a tiny box

but like I said before

if you cheeze and exploit. you will eventually break something

[stiff stag]

I find it hilarious that someone abusing an exploit in any way thought they were in the right on the matter lmao.

[versed sonnet]

would've had an even worse time before the building ease update lol

Also calling Valheim unpopular was an insane take 😂

[long glacier]

Probably just saying because it’s less popular than minecraft

[toxic dawn]

Literally every other game ever made is less popular than minecraft

[versed sonnet]

It was a goofy defensive cope either way lol

[granite geyser]

"unpopular"

Sees +20k active players

Lol

[arctic wharf]

towers to keep farm animal production going past usual limits is fine all things considered, but it's 100% on you if you leave so much food that you way overproduce hahaha

Can't expect the devs to design around it though, since obviously it's not their intention just as Smiffe has already said.

It's far from being so detrimental that it requires addressing... and I like the flexibility to work around the limiter if you want to.

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message An equippable item to clear a larger area of the fog of war has been suggested before, but that post was very vague. A falcon would be a nice natural way of incorporating the concept.

[wraith tide]

I just want little critters running around to make biomes feel more natural. Id also really love to snatch up some cute pets, but that's neither here nor there

[versed sonnet]

I find the lack of extra ambient wildlife kinda helps with the "this is a forsaken realm" vibe, like it's not supposed to entirely be a natural environment as we know it. It just touches on some of the peaceful areas almost being like a liminal space, which I think is kinda neat, intentional or not

[arctic wharf]

@fervent shuttle I think it could be a huge reason to incentavise farming if say the stats of the food are somewhat buffed by using higher quality ingredients...

Not exactly a new concept ofc, and the implementation cost would be rather high. So yeah, I think this would have to be super wanted by the devs to even be worth considering lol.
Is a few other downsides to balance the ups sides that even I can think of as well.

I wouldn't mind seeing it, but I wouldn't advise putting in the time it would take over other features for now either.

[rose swan]

#suggestions message Another spot filled on suggestion bingo 😁

[peak bronze]

#suggestions message This has been suggested multiple times and Smiffe has denied it every single time. They won't add something that beneficial for multiplaying over solo playing.

[peak bronze]

Daily or weekly bingo?

[arctic wharf]

[granite geyser]

@kind dagger

#suggestion-discussion message

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message generally if you have the foresight to comment on the idea potentially getting a lot of down votes, it's a good sign either to not post it yet or think it over again. You can also always discuss ideas in this channel first before moving to the suggestions channel if you have any doubts, to help work out or find potential issues. It can also help how well received the suggestion will be if it's refined first, vs being posted in a problematic state.

[sick breach]

Before i post a suggestion to the same effect, figured id ask if this has been addressed; is there a reason you can't place crafting upgrades too near each other? I find it very annoying for seemingly no reason. Especially if i want to take my forge somewhere else temporarily, putting it back is so annoying as i cant tell until after i place it if its close enough to all the upgrades.

[barren vault]

Curious @mellow mirage @lofty wave why do think you picturesque, environmentally realistic waterfalls are a bad idea?

[lofty wave]

Because the water would need to come from somewhere to fall.

[rose swan]

Waterfalls would be cool, but the games engine wouldn’t allow for it to be feasible 🙂

(Another one for bingo though!)

[barren vault]

perhaps one of the games many inland streams and rivers……..?

[rose swan]

Those streams and rivers are sea level though

[lofty wave]

All of the water outside hot tubs and dungeons is a single object, so it's all sea level.

[barren vault]

fair point, could add some mountain side springs from which streams originate

[lofty wave]

Raised water that isn't contained within an object or dungeon would either not work with terrain modification or it could be given tar physics which would be terrible for performance.

[barren vault]

Terrain modification would make it a challenge, another fair point

[arctic charm]

There's lots of suggestions that are made that I don't like personally. But this one... #suggestions message YES PLEASE! Even on M/K this would be amazing

[stiff stag]

7 days to die has radial menus for things and it's really nice when multiple options are available.

Could also be applied to bows and crossbows to choose which arrows/bolts to use, so you don't have to organize the inventory a specific way.

[burnt heath]

you can pick arrows by "equipping" them

well, munition, i guess

[stiff stag]

Right, forgot about that.

[granite geyser]

@uncut stratus

Not possible

#suggestion-discussion message

[uncut stratus]

why :'v

oooh
single object? omg

[burnt heath]

need to start with a water simulation (basically how Cities: Skylines 1 started off), adding after the fact is...hard

[uncut stratus]

well, maybe some day its posible to add another water object and make it for that, like, add a well in the world to gether it from, and just can use it that for ponds, a man can dream

[granite geyser]

#suggestion-discussion message

[burnt heath]

Unity manages waterfalls just fine

[granite geyser]

But not valheim

[burnt heath]

Valheim is using Unity

[versed sonnet]

Flowing water iirc is just an overly complicated thing that would probably add a lot of issues with how water is currently used/coded in game.

Be a lot of squeeze for very little juice if it's possible.

I personally believe that you could feasibly have generated structures appear in the game that could act as lil waterfalls. Have a bowl-like structure of water up top, an animation of falling water fall into a bowl of water below that if collided with causes the wet effect.

Could maybe be used as like a dungeon entrance or just be kinda pretty.

[fervent shuttle]

I’ve ran up on goblin camp and next to me there was a tar pit, a mound of tar dropped from just above the pit and flooded down into it in a sludge like slow animation. I think being able to grab water in some way and create this affect and drop water where you want would be neat. It seems like the game already has it, I don’t know how these things work but it doesn’t seem like it’d need its own coding since tar acts the same way. But to give our motes and what not that wonderful addition of being filled, I think it’d be awesome. I understand waterfalls are a different story due to needing a constant source to be able to flow like that but being able to grab water somehow and then drop is like it was tar, that’d be cool. Yanno, even drop tar into our motes would be cool

Being able to make a mote full of water at water level is possible but not to the extent of anything actually beneficial to keep mobs out because you can’t make it deep enough. Your tools get auto sheathed when you get too deep in the water making that part impossible. So if you could build the mote then make trips grabbing water to fill it, it’d be nice.

But there’s also the fact that the water in Valheim plays a tremendous role as staying at a constant water level and this is where I’d see the issue. But in regards to the first section of this argument, if you could somehow copy, paste, rename, retexture/or texture to the same as water… this new grab-able and droppable water wouldn’t behave as normal water but as tar does where it stays in the stone/ground confinements that it was dropped into. I’m sure you could make it to where just as tar behaves, it flows into the ocean and ceases to exist. Anyway, this is how I think water could be brought further inland and used to the players benefit in a way it wouldn’t massively impact performance and all the dos dads

[versed sonnet]

I remember this was discussed a while back, it's too bad the server wipe happened or I'd try and find what was said.

@granite geyser might remember, or smiffe could just straight up tell ya why, but I think he's off for the day.

I think it had something to do with the way tar pits generate isn't something a player could replicate without breaking something, but I'm not entirely sure.

or it might've been they just didn't want to give the player the capability? It's been at least a year lol

at this point I'm just talking out of my ass, I really don't remember lol

[fervent shuttle]

Interesting. Maybe it’s just dumbed down to a location spawn thing that’s already been accounted for by the console before you even arrive making it less of a problem.

Oh, well I personally wouldn’t mind the capability being added to some cheat mode like devcommands and debug mode because I build in those as well as vanilla. I just know it’s a big discussion and figured I’d add my thoughts just incase they might’ve been useful 😂😅

[versed sonnet]

I think it's definitetly a valid thought, and probably feasible to pull off if they wanted.

Like I've brought up the waterfall structure a lot too, but it's just one of those things I'm fairly certain the devs don't feel the need to add

but they've also changed their minds on things before, so it's never completely impossible if something has been counted out previously

[untold gazelle]

I think someone already suggested making darkwood as strong as corewood, but what if there was a dark version of corewood or a thicker version of darkwood?
I haven’t find a way around this structural problem for big structures using darkwood, it’s either using corewood or darkwood with iron reinforcementa (wich is not worth it)

[fervent shuttle]

I don't mind the grind for iron beams for mega builds or semi mega. Gives me a challenge

[finite vapor]

I rarely use iron for builds, only a couple super large ones. Most of the time stone+wood is more than enough and can build 3-4 story structures

[fervent shuttle]

I’ll have to post my build when it’s done. I think it turned out pretty great. I have one side left before it’s done but it’s turned out great

[untold gazelle]

Well at least you can use iron beams inside darkwood and it looks as if it’s only darkwood there, but the cost difference between this and corewood seems too big imo

[untold gazelle]

Posting it on #building-ideas ?
Thinking about posting mine there after i gather the iron and finish it

[sick breach]

#suggestions message
Im not a fan of this proposed change, as the amount of practically useless trophies that pile up are already a lot. I don't want to make my trophy storage have 3 times the slots to accomodate all the 1 and 2 star variants.

[lofty wave]

It's unlikely you'd ever find a 2-star trophy anyway, why should the devs add so many new trophies if they're never going to be seen?

[arctic wharf]

Having a proportional chance to drop the trophy based on stars might be nice though lol, just linear scale depending on its base rate. 🤷‍♂️
5%
10% 🌟
15% 🌟🌟

[wet drift]

While it is probably more effort than it's worth, your argument in it's unaltered form doesn't seem that strong to me.

Rarity is part of the main appeal of trophies. Very few of them actually look good in the average build, and the enemies already look different, so the trophies being the same does seem to be a time saver more than anything else.

[lofty wave]

They’d be too rare though. Most players would only find a few throughout their entire playthrough if they’re given a higher chance as suggested by ZionE. And if it’s the same drop chance they’d be so close to impossible to find that it just isn’t worth adding.

[hexed jewel]

you could easily make them drop more often for higher starred variants, the question is whether it'd even be worth the effort to have separate ones for every starred variant or not

[wet drift]

It would be a "good addition" in the sense that it would not be a bad addition.

I just wouldn't call it worthwhile.

[hexed jewel]

right, that's a good way to put it

[rose swan]

They would just be more collectibles for players to discover, I don’t think it’s really a “good or bad” thing, just kinda neutral. I agree with Ivar, probably wouldn’t be worthwhile to add. Though the added lore to the compendium would be neat.

[unique cove]

#suggestions message

-couple of possible additions I wanted to list out

Could be other pieces left over from the battle, stakes, Ruined siege equipment, arrows you can reuse, etc.
harvest the weapons for metal scrap? Could definitely be iron in the plains but I don't know about the meadows
Event when you interact with the runestone, akin to a skeleton raid

[rose swan]

Flour is probably the one thing I would like to see tweaked a bit, stacking to 20 is criminal 😂

[hexed jewel]

that production chain has the weirdest stacking, (100) barley --> windmill (50) --> flour (20) --> dough (20)

like like flour should probably just stack higher, and that would fix most/all of this issue

ratios aren't even per se the problem--at least doesn't FEEL like anything is too 'barley expensive'--it's the fact that the storing the flour you aren't sure you want to immediately make into dough but want to have handy is very space-inefficient, which isn't the hardest problem to work around, it's just kinda an unnecessary one really

[rose swan]

Yeah, the stacking is very odd for sure lol. Hmm I don’t know, I really feel like barely is always in high demand. Maybe that’s just my opinion. The way I see it, it takes 4 barely to make 4 flour, so it’s a 1:1. It basically takes four plants (assuming you use one barley per plant to re-plant) to get one pie. To be fair, there are no seeds involved, so the farming loop is straightforward.

I really like the whole prices of making flour; from harvest, processing, preparing, then finally cooking. It’s extremely immersive, especially compared to other survival games. This is why I push so hard for some way to increase crop yield in a way that makes sense (water wells, particularly).

[hexed jewel]

yeah it would only help store more efficiently to let the flour stack up to like 50 or 100, and fit in better with the product (windmill proudce a full stack, or half stack, of flour, instead of the weird 2.5 stack it does now if filled), that change otherwise wouldn't affect any prices or farming grind, which I think are about right, it just FEELS like it stacks WEIRDLY low (when and only when in flour form--just fine in barley or dough) given all the rest

and tbh again, that isn't even the BIGGEST deal in the world, just more chests, just feels odd

[rose swan]

Half of my pantry is filled with flour 😅 and sure, I don’t need that flour. But here’s the breakdown of a piquant pie, just for fun!

1/25th of a stack of vine berries
1/10th of a stack of Asksvin tail
1/5th of a stack of barley flour

But yeah, at the end of the day, it’s really not a big deal, agreed!

So, a stack of piquant pie requires two stacks of flour. Just an observation 🙂

[cloud willow]

yeah. the top should be around/ just below waist level

[rose swan]

#suggestions message flashbacks of heated potato arguments

Pre server wipe, Smiffe had a list of things that absolutely won’t be added to the game. ‘Potatoes’ was in all caps lol

[hexed jewel]

potato supremacy!

[eternal wyvern]

Nahh, we already left root veggies. We went from root veggies to grass crops to magical mushrooms to vine berries, I'd like a new type of plant or a crop introduced in the deep north to keep the progression interesting and diverse.

[obtuse wolf]

high star fish are very rare and have different sized trophies but i dont see anyone complain about that

just bcs something is rare doesnt mean it shouldnt be added

[ebon depot]

Well, if we go about changing stacks of food items.... am I the only one who thinks 50 is a bit too much for sea serpent meat? I mean those steaks are HUGE and from an immersive point of view, I would prefer a limit of 10. 😅

[wanton atlas]

still is the biggest no, known to humanity

potatoes came from south america in the 1500 century to europe

how the heck it would find itself into a viking themed game about the afterlife is byond me

[finite vapor]

How did magic

[peak bronze]

Technically it's Eitr which is part of Nordic/viking mythology.

[granite geyser]

The game being fantasy with fictional elements didn't, doesn't and will never work as the excuse for "dude add just literally anything idc if it doesn't make sense it's magic smh"

[arctic wharf]

While we can use some legic here and there... can also add pretty much anything and get away with it 😅
Its viking inspired, not viking lore, mythos, and fact accurate. It is also a fantasy game at the end of the day.

Just comes down to dev choice, as always.
And ofc no one is going to care if potatoes end up in the game or not. Could be any other vegetable or just a made up fantasy crop and still achieve the same gameplay addition 🫡

.
Wowzer, what timing! Been such a long time since we have directly heard from the gang too. 🥳 will be there!

[cloud willow]

sorry I didn't have time to give it much context. when working, the height of the anvils face (top) should be the same height as the user's knuckles in a relaxed arm position (ie. make a fist and let it hang down by your side) from the ground. this ensures that you get the most efficiency out of each hammer blow and also helps to not destroy your back as well. you want to be able to bend over the anvil a bit as well to see what youre doing. anyway, I'll stop now 😆 its a minor issue anyway.

[open dagger]

sad

well hopefully some invented cool looking crop

[sick breach]

Well first only a small subset of the Valheim community interacts with fish at all, and two every time you kill a fish you get the trophy. The rarity RNG is in fish spawning, and you can get a lot more fish to spawn then you can kill higher tier enemies hoping for a trophy drop.

[rose swan]

Really like the idea of apple trees, don’t know why lol. I think they would be a fine addition, I could see finding apple seeds in the Deep North as a possibility. Similar to how we find onion seeds in the mountains.

I could see some sort of milkable tame being added as well. Perhaps even a cheese press.

[rose swan]

You’re making want to get fishing now lol I keep saying I’m going to do it. Collecting all the fish seems fun.

[analog moss]

It’s a challenge for sure. I’ve got my fishing hat, but only about five R5 fish on my wall

[open dagger]

#suggestions message cool idea, needing to plant a tree for food is something new

[short wing]

Maybe get a sapling or a living branch instead of seeds.

[rose swan]

Agreed, would be really neat

#suggestions message Liked your suggestion Judge, modified the suggestion a little 😁

[sick breach]

You voted it as a repeat suggestion. Someone else has suggested apple trees? EDIT i see from dogg it has, nvm.

[rose swan]

I wasn’t the first by any means 😂 it’s a great idea!

[open dagger]

oops must have been out of reflex

[lofty wave]

#suggestions message Dead voltures won’t follow you

[hexed jewel]

right, violence is GENERALLY the most efficient solution to whatever problem confronts the adventuring Viking

[azure cargo]

Omg but when you are trying to get ur items back? It’s not like you don’t have to deal with an army of undead and askvins

I know that it’s a skill issue but this not only is frustrating but also breaks immersion a little

[rose swan]

I feel like if anything, it’s pretty realistic. The Voltures are extremely aggressive, probably very hungry, and live in the most desolate biome in the game.

[hexed jewel]

oh yeah that's rough, once you lose your items, the whole balance of power shifts--especially hard in the Ashlands

[lofty wave]

Don’t they follow the same aggro loss conditions as everything else? I don’t see why an exception should be made.

[azure cargo]

Nah, they just do one animation for so long that no one can see shore anymore

[hexed jewel]

everyone downvoted, but i suggested the death buff be changed to scale with deaths in a certain time and increase survivability, basically an in game 'mercy' mechanic

[azure cargo]

Because they live near the SHORE and IT LOOKS STUPID CAUSE THEY DO ONE ANIMATION EVERY MILISECOND

[rose swan]

I’ll be honest, I keep my death penalty setting at casual. It’s just more enjoyable for me this way 🙂

[lofty wave]

Can’t volture nests be found anywhere in ashlands?

[azure cargo]

What does it have to do with the conversation

[rose swan]

You’re complaining about corpse runs

Just trying to help

[azure cargo]

Not in the middle of it.
If you can see shore nearby, the eggs spawn. I’ve never seen one of them in the middle of the biome

[rose swan]

I’ve seen lots of Voltures in the middle areas of Ashlands

[azure cargo]

Yeah sorry. Got a little too mad for such a thing and didn’t understand what you were saying. I’m actually doing the same. Actually, only in ashlands cause I barely die in other biomes

[azure cargo]

How did it happen🤯

[rose swan]

You’re good, I understand Ashlands can be pretty frustrating haha

I don’t really know, but I feel like anytime I’m running from something there’s always a Volture nest around a rock waiting to ambush me 😅

[azure cargo]

I feel like askvins and unarmed charred are almost single handed the entire reason for most of my deaths

[azure cargo]

Idk how did this happen. I’ve never seen a volture’s nest anywhere far from the shore

Oooooh

[rose swan]

That pounce is deadly. Luring a 2-star had my heart pounding lol

[azure cargo]

Yeah, the most of my deaths during fader fight were one shots from these monsters from behind💀

(I play full eitr class)

[lofty wave]

The bite and pounce have the same damage but the bite is split between two damage types, so I just read 75 and assumed the other damage types were pickaxe and chop.

Headbutt has less damage though, but I think it has more knockback

[azure cargo]

So don’t you think they should get some serious nerfing?

[lofty wave]

No, they seem alright to me even now that I know how much damage bite actually does

[azure cargo]

Just a little less damage would be good, but they are so tanky

Just two of them always meant 2-3 minutes of running and damaging them or even death if I made one mistake

[lofty wave]

Do you have a staff of protection? You need to make a least two mistakes with that

[azure cargo]

Yeah, that’s why I said „when there are just two of them”

Cause they don’t really wait between attacks

[granite geyser]

They're literally among the ashlands mobs with the least amount of hp...

Even twitchers have more than them, and they're the thrash enemy of the biome

[azure cargo]

Why is your tone so aggressive omg😬

[lofty wave]

A 2* twitcher has less health than an asksvin

[granite geyser]

Oh wait I thought you were talking about voltures due to the suggestion

[azure cargo]

They are way quicker, deal more damage and are not weak to blunt damage

[azure cargo]

No no no. Their stats are good

[granite geyser]

If it's asksvins then your best bet is to snipe them for an initial advantage.

That's why crossbows shine

[azure cargo]

Yeah but crossbows need stamina, which I don’t have, they make you slow for lots of time, which kills you when you’re running for your life from these absolute sprinters.

[peak bronze]

Demolisher. 2 hits and they are dead.

[azure cargo]

But yeah, besides that, they are amazing

[azure cargo]

Yeah but askvins easily ambush you from behind because they are not loud and are quick.

[winter snow]

Valheim
First of all I have to say that it is a great game but once you have done everything it gets boring and you lack the composure to play again.

1. There are no animals, which makes the game more lively, so there are no bears, moose, lynxes and birds.
2. The two traders could give you quizzes, for example that you deliver various fur and flax to Hilri. At the Haltor you deliver various materials such as various wood, ores, grain, and also things from the Mist Land and Ash Land.
3. There is a kind of dome in the game, which means two or three stones standing upright and one is placed on top of them, so that around 4-5 skeletons could appear again and again.
4. The ballista shouldn't shoot at its own people.
5. I don't think the Mist Land is good at all

[versed sonnet]

Fair opinons! I don't believe everyone is on the same page as ya but I'll throw out my 2 cents

1. Lore wise, Valheim is a forsaken realm, not having a ton of ambient wildlife kinda helps sell that vibe. It's also largely that the devs don't want to add more creatures for the sake of adding creatures. They try to ensure creatures are unique and have use, adding more would either have them have the same drops as something else or add a huge amount of unneeded content.

2. Those could be kinda fun, but I think it would diminish the value of gathering coins and jewelry. Why explore for those when you could grind out and farm materials to sell that you could be using to just play the game? Hildr already does essentially have a delivery quest as well.

3. Yea the lil rock stack that spawns skeletons in the meadows can be a bit annoying, but I think it's fun for the game to throw a curveball at you sometimes like that. Mark it and stay away til you can take care of em easily or put up something to prevent spawns.

4. Yeah, probably lol.

5. Like, that's just your opinon man (It's unfortunate you don't like it, I think it's awesome with how different it is from other biomes)

The replay value is only alright, you can try out different builds, the world gen can be fun to explore each time, but really it doesn't need to have infinite replayability. It's not a live service game. Plus its not even finished yet, there'll be more content to enjoy repeatedly if you wish.

[lofty wave]

Why is mistlands not good at all? There’s got to be something you liked.

[rose swan]

Can I ask why you don’t like Mistlands?

[rose swan]

Same thought haha

[eternal wyvern]

Mistlands is the best biome

[rose swan]

I think I would rank as my 3rd or 4th 🤔 but yeah, I think it’s good. No bad biomes imo.

[versed sonnet]

swamps is probably my least favorite, but it seems like they're jamming out more content for it

[sour hill]

My top 2 are the mistlands and ashlands by far, I'd probably rank ashlands a bit higher as the progression in it feels smoother than the mistlands

[versed sonnet]

I still have yet to beat mistlands and get to ashlands, waiting for another intermediate major update and will probably restart

ain't played in a hot minute

[sour hill]

My least favorite is the mountain, just because I always lack any reason to go there beyond getting like 100 silver, a few wolf hide and killing the boss. I spend a lot less time in the mountain than every other biome and it's likely the same for most people

[sour hill]

Those biomes are unlikely to be touched much so there's no reason to miss out on the rest of the content

[arctic wharf]

Personally the mistlands is my favorite. I love the mystical and magic nature and just adore finding secrets which it's theme lends itself to giving that feeling. Could only wish mistalnds had even more content to find and explore... and find secrets within 🤭

[arctic wharf]

But frost cave??? They are so cool 🤣 without frost caves I might be inclined to agree ofc haha.

[eternal wyvern]

exactly

[arctic wharf]

Probably would place the plains as my least favorite. While I like a lot of it, it feels the most empty to me. Having to watch my back constantly for deathsquitos has me scarred too hahaha, though husk harness has kinda removed that aspect.

Probably the lack of a dungeon is what puts it truly at the bottom for me ofc.

Wish ashlands got instanced content too, but it got cut. 😅

[winter snow]

I don't like anything about Mistland. I hate it.

[arctic wharf]

Each to their own ofc. Everyone has their own tastes 🙂

[versed sonnet]

Each time I play I explore a lot, so it kinda screws with updated world gen.

Also I really like the progression of the early game so it doesn't bother me much. I just don't wanna screw something up for that teased swamp hut

[arctic lily]

My world is very long running and I've mostly explored west and south, so the east of my world (and north, of course) is completely untouched. Hopefully I can find the new merchant in the swamps I have left on that side.

[spiral agate]

IMO your only valid point are the animals. I'd like to see more animals in every biome, particularly in the meadows and black forest, but I think the devs will never implement that idea because the suggestion always get downvoted.

[arctic wharf]

There are birds though... and some animals 👀
Just incorrect to claim that, though there definitely is not a whooooole ton. Valheim as whole does not have the largest selection of Mobs. however it's not the smallest selection either.

I myself however- was on the side of the ballista never purposefully firing at the player, but the player being able to be friendly fired if they so happen to walk between it and it's target.

Nothing to add on those other bits of that message lol

[vivid ridge]

1. Mountains 2. Black Forest 3. Mistlands

kinda my feelings

[rose swan]

These are your top three biome?

[vivid ridge]

yeah

[versed sonnet]

I think part of the reason they keep it limited is to avoid an oversaturation of resource variety. You play similar games and it'll have 2-4x as many different types of resources which would make storage management a nightmare without a pull from chests for crafting mechanic

[arctic wharf]

1. Black Forest
2. Mistlands
3. Mountains
   🤭

[versed sonnet]

black forest is easily my favorite as well

[lofty wave]

Mountains at 1? It doesnt even spawn starred enemies unless you go at night.

[rose swan]

1. Ashlands
2. Black Forest
3. Mountains

[arctic wharf]

yeee, it can be easy to swamp the game with resources as it is.
Could always add some tiny critters that don't drop anything ofc... or just be alternate sources of existing resources.

[rose swan]

Frost caves are crazy fun and cool dungeons

[vivid ridge]

Thats cool. Ive seen 1 star wolves.

[lofty wave]

They spawn at night only.

[vivid ridge]

Okay. Thats cool.

[arctic wharf]

admittenly, I have not actually gone to the ashlands myself, I have only spoiled myself moderetly on it's content hahaha

[unique cove]

They're seagulls, beach rats. They belong.

[arctic wharf]

kinda held off from loss of interest, but will get to it on one huge playthrough eventually.

[vivid ridge]

I played it on easy mode. The amount of enemies wasnt for me. I will probably like it better with the nerfs.

[arctic wharf]

is some crows in black forest too right? though same mechanics, just different skin.

[unique cove]

Don't recall

[lofty wave]

Yes, and another bird in ashlands (not voltures, small birds like seagulls and crows)

[unique cove]

Bats to

[arctic wharf]

ah, I didn't know of that detail. 🫡

bat raids... most hated raid, aside from perhaps gjalls

[lofty wave]

Bat and gjall raids are good because they work even if you make a terrain wall. If you can just raise some ground to ignore all raids, what's the point?

[arctic wharf]

Gjalls are a challange at least.... bats are just annoying and kill my livestock. I would prefer that raid removed, or at least something special added like a super big dire bat that comes along too and actually poses a challange hahaha

just my opinion ofc

[vivid ridge]

Ive played the game mostly with raids turned off. My recent playthrough with my brother theyre on but they dont happen often.

The drake raid happened and destroyed many things but that was ok. One of the drakes got stuck and was killing wild boars and necks a few days after the raid.

[rose swan]

I play with raids turned off as well, just kinda my preferred playstyle. Glad they added modifiers!

[vivid ridge]

If they had like enemies with basic siege weapons it might be more fun to me

[lofty wave]

Charred with catapults to go over walls?

[arctic wharf]

would love that!

[unique cove]

Why not just have a meteor troll fall on your base?

[vivid ridge]

Yeah. Im not sure because I havent seen a charred raid. But it would make sense.

[vivid ridge]

I think there should be a raid where there are 5 star trolls with battle axes that destroy every tree they see to kill your fps so you are unable to fight back

[lofty wave]

We need a morgen gjall raid

[vivid ridge]

flying morgens yeah

[unique cove]

Morgens riding gjall

[lofty wave]

No, it spawns both. They fight each other and you for lots of destruction

[rose swan]

Morgena dropped in by Fallen Valks

[arctic wharf]

epic!

[vivid ridge]

oh gotcha yeah that would realy help performance

[hexed jewel]

#suggestions message only if at night

[open dagger]

#fanart message

[unique cove]

👀

[eternal wyvern]

1. the desert
2. cobweb mistlands
3. the magical sky dimension with all of the dungeons

[open dagger]

#suggestions message a wall with the texture of the oven walls would be really nice

[arctic lily]

Wagner's "Flight of the Valkyries" starts playing when this raid starts.

[vivid ridge]

I wish the seekers were basically still spiders except they dont look like spiders HAHAHA

[arctic wharf]

@wanton atlas earlier today It seems exactly this was mentioned as a coming feature. I don't suppose my suggestion made the cut (Inspired the addition)?
The specifics seems almost 1 to 1 identical huhuhu
So similar, it really feels like surely it might have? (in some way) ❤️

Real exciting announcements, all around.

if so, just something small to take pride in 😁

[wanton atlas]

I mean

😄

[arctic wharf]

😅 It was made so long ago, pre-wipe. under my prior account before I got hacked haha

[wanton atlas]

ah

I've been playing with feasts longer than that post tho

[arctic wharf]

idk, just had me curious. so many of the specifics after all were the same, so had me thinking perhaps some aspect made it through huhuhu

even the putting them on tables to eat from them there 😁

[rose swan]

Smiffe out here playing Valheim 1.1

[vivid ridge]

Feasts would be so awesome for the game. It would add so much replayability to when you go out on a trip.

I dont think they would do it quite like this but I think itd be cool if it was like Alchemy from Skyrim, in which case you mix and match food items in order to get the different effects.

[rose swan]

I wonder if each biome will have a feast?

[vivid ridge]

Yeah I was thinking it would be more like that.

[arctic wharf]

Feasts were already announced just this morning, and many details are similar (though it's not like they really revealed it 100% so we don't know what the full implementation will look like).

They called it as being like Food tier 2
And they will be put on tables hahaha

[vivid ridge]

Oh were they! Gotcha. Havent heard about this. I hope I can find it on Youtube easily.

[arctic wharf]

They will last a lot longer AND there will be multiple uses from the table before it is used up

[rose swan]

Oh sorry! I thought that’s what you were talking about 😅

[vivid ridge]

oh my god i love that so much thats extremely hype

not only replayability but it doubles as content for RP

[arctic wharf]

it's only one feature among a handful they revealed here too 😄

[rose swan]

Yeah, this next update looks spicy! One might even say it looks piquant

#general message some spoilers from the dev talk 🙂

[vivid ridge]

THANK YOH

I wasnt expecting that but i appreciate it so much

[rose swan]

Of course!

#suggestions message hmm I feel like the Elder is already pretty easy to find? 🤔

[vivid ridge]

so bog witch is coming soon for halloween, which is implied?

Sorry for the broken english im just excited

[rose swan]

I don’t know if it’s that close, but I suppose it’s possible?

[vivid ridge]

no worries because I can wait forever. Never had a problem with their speed.

[arctic wharf]

no release date mentioned ye, but I suspect pretty soon

[vivid ridge]

Not sarcasm. They can do whateva they want truly

I love freedom like that.

[gaunt rose]

Anyone can run through the same copy and pasted crypt 15 times till they find it, it's not about ease, I feel it would just better encourage sailing exploration pre elder and give people any alternative to running through copy and pasted crypts lol

[rose swan]

I don’t think I’ve ever had to search more than 3 crypts burial chambers before I came across a vegvisir, you can also find them in abandoned watch towers right?

[stiff stag]

The game isn't designed around people that do multiple playthroughs of the game, so that's a non issue as far as the devs are concerned.

Of course things are going to feel stale once you've already gone through a playthrough and learned what to do, no real fixing that anyway.

[gaunt rose]

I've only ever found it before my 5th crypt in 1 or 2 worlds, it's very much a luck thing and you can find them connected to the stone towers in the black forest but they're much rarer to the point where I wouldn't bother trying that method

[vivid ridge]

I like the smoke idea for sure but I also think any difficulty in finding it is very RNG

[rose swan]

Ah, maybe I’ve just always been lucky 🙂

[vivid ridge]

Were you responding to me?

[eternal wyvern]

Crypts is for bonemass, elder's locator is in a burial chamber.

[vivid ridge]

I ask because when I mentioned replayability I didnt mean the entire game. I just meant replayability for going out and hunting or exploring or really anything.

Some people do get bored on their first playthrough with any game. Any way to mitigate that, whether it is intentional or not, is always awesome.

[gaunt rose]

I just think if you sail past something important like that you should have a chance to hop off your boat and mark it, every other boss arena gives you this chance (except moder ofc since no ocean mountains lol)

[rose swan]

Other boss altars have signals?

[eternal wyvern]

I don't understand the suggestion.

[rose swan]

He’s suggesting that the Elder altar has a signal so it can be spotted from afar

[gaunt rose]

You can see other boss arenas clear as day from the moment they spawn in since the swamp doesn't cover up the giant bonemass skull, the yagluth one has those pillars, the queen has that giant staircase etc

[vivid ridge]

I thought Elder's spawn also has pillars

[eternal wyvern]

It does, you hide behind them and run away when the teneacles want you.

[vivid ridge]

I like to dodge roll everything that boss does

[gaunt rose]

You can't see them past the tree line, you need to have basically already found the arena

[stiff stag]

None of those are to intentionally make the player spot them though, that's just coincidental, you are still intended to use the vegvisirs to locate them. Finding them by random chance might work out for yagluth since the vegvisirs for that boss are rare, but the elder is a non-issue to locate given that its vegvisirs are practically handed out like candy.

[vivid ridge]

I have confidence that they were partially designed to be noticeable. Its a common game design choice.

[eternal wyvern]

I remember being rewarded with candy for defeating a poisonous skeleton with a club.

[vivid ridge]

so true

[eternal wyvern]

On a serious note, I think is a very non-issue. Burial chambers are very prevalent and easy to go through so finding a vegvisir for Elder is pretty easy and quick.

[gaunt rose]

Burial chambers are very boring after the 3rd one and running through them just for a red stone repeatedly isn't fun. I'm not suggesting they take anything away just add any alternative

[vivid ridge]

I like them still. I feel like Ive only seen a couple repeats out of 100 or so

[granite geyser]

Bonemass skull is far from being easy to spot especially when it should rarely spawn close to shore.

Queen's citadel has only three instances in the entire world.

So that first sentence doesn't make sense, no other boss has any clear indication of its location. Yagluth's and elder's are literally the easiest to spot

[vivid ridge]

I actually have had a Bonemass location right by ocean HAHA, ive only fought Bonemass three or four times

Thats cool to know though that its rare

[gaunt rose]

There's no set number of spawns for the queen, I used a random seed generator to check and it had 5. I've also never seen a bonebass spawn not visible from a shore especially since you can sail through most of the swamp biomes so idk what experiences you've had there

[rose swan]

Can confirm, just generated a seed with 5. With that being said, I think it all just boils down to RNG. I’ve personally always struggled with finding Bonemass haha

[gaunt rose]

Playstyle factors into it too, I sail a lot as soon as i get a karve so I always find elder and moder last

[arctic lily]

It's tangential to this conversation, but my world actually has an ocean mountain. As in the coast line has snow and you sail into waters and the minimap says you're in the mountain biome. It is on the coast line just north of the Ashlands border, but I don't think that terrain was generated prior to Ashlands release since I didn't go near that area prior. I guess it's still likely that something in the changes for Ashlands heightmap sunk what would have previously been a continent.

[somber raptor]

I just was thinking back to before we had 2 hander sword. I'm so glad they took community feed back for that/added its weapon tree. So cool this game

[arctic wharf]

So, how many souls must I harvest to please Odin and earn a seat at his table within Iron Gate Valheim!

One can dream hehe

[unique cove]

I do use an inv expansion mod, but that’s mostly because of another mod that tends to take up a bit of room anyways so…kinda on me

[arctic lily]

If I were to suggest an inventory change it would be to separate armor- and accessory- specific slots that indicate the worn pieces instead of having them take up general slots. That would feel better organizationally. But I also don't mind it the way that it is and inventory tradeoff is a key part of the gameplay, I think.

[stiff stag]

The developers would also have to take away general slots to allow for dedicated armor and accessory slots because that tradeoff is intended. So dedicated slots in that case would actually be a downgrade to what currently exists.

[arctic lily]

My thinking was recovering those 5 slots for general use, but as I said I also think it's currently fine.

[stiff stag]

And that would not happen, if the developers did that it would not free up general slots like people want/expect, because that's not what the developers want.

[uncut linden]

What if lox saddlebags

[arctic lily]

That kind of misses the point of a suggestion channel/discussion. The only point of my comment was on what I would find useful, not in dissecting developer intent.

[wet drift]

Fun fact. While you are wearing things, they generally take up less space in whatever you use to carry things.

Tbh, I would say that inventory space is enough in most cases, but on the other hand, I think it's really silly when you have to drop 50 pieces of wood to pick up a blueberry.

Ultimately since the game has weight limit, I see no need for slots to exist at all. Using both is definitely unconventional, and should probably stay that way.

If weight on its own isn't enough of a limitation, they could add a volume limitation, but that would probably either seem silly, or be too restrictive. "Damn it I can only carry like a hundred cubic meters!"

[errant wedge]

having a reasonable volume as the carrying limit would make building very frustrating: ie only being able to carry 10 or so pieces of wood at a time does not spark joy.

The slots are a good abstraction of a volume system mechanically, even if there are some silly cases such as your berry example

[granite geyser]

@cerulean forge

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/World_Modifiers

[cerulean forge]

Thanks! I'll update my suggestion!

[rose swan]

Hmm I feel like it would be a little odd to have a new mount after just getting one, yeah? Also, I feel it would be strange to get two different goats.

[eternal zodiac]

Lox stuff -> insta include fr

let me train and equip my lox, so we are the strongest out there

[hexed jewel]

inventory space would be enough if I didn't feel the need to carry a small armory just because all the weapons are too cool to choose between

[wanton atlas]

want me to make like 200 channels? Future suggestions, discord suggestions, current biome suggestions, suggestion suggestions? monster suggestions. etc etc etc?

no. I will not make suggestion channel based on type

@eternal zodiac

[stiff stag]

Sounds like they meant just 2 channels, not 200.

But either way, it doesn't need to be divided up, especially since people won't use the right channels anyway.

[peak bronze]

Reading is hard you know.

[stiff stag]

I agree, writing is easy.

[arctic wharf]

What madness to read this morning. "sips coffee"

[boreal iris]

I do wish that the lack of use for a lox would be recognized by the devs. On my latest play through I didn’t even bother taming one. Same with boars I didn’t bother taming them this go around.

[rose swan]

Lack of tamed lox, specifically? Like there’s no good reason to tame them?

[lofty wave]

You don’t need to tame anything and it should remain completely optional like that.

[rose swan]

The only tame that’s really important in my opinion is chickens, everything else can be hunted pretty efficiently.

Really don’t even need Asksvin for the Ashlands, imo

Though if you want to get technical, hens technically aren’t tames I guess? But effectively they behave as such lol

[arctic wharf]

Only reason I tame animals is for endless meat... but by now it is very possible to just out tier their drops far faster than the time investment to get the infrastructure up lol
.

I wouldn't call hens tames, since you raise them from eggs. No taming process 🤭 but I know what you are getting at.

[vivid ridge]

I think making more uses for a mechanic, to a certain limit, will always benefit a game

[arctic wharf]

just need a good reason to want that steady supply of meats... and well 😉 😉 😉 these feasts could be one heck of a good reason!

Wouldn't mind if their controls were less jank either ofc haha

Or the usual Armor and Saddle Bags suggestions.

[rose swan]

I don’t like taming Lox, because I hate how they climb all over each other haha but every other tame I like to keep around. Just for base aesthetics mainly. Though the leather scraps from boar are convenient for banners and other decorations.

[hexed jewel]

or rampage through your base destroying everything because they heard a neck several miles away on the other side of impenetrable earth walls

[rose swan]

Oh yeah, that’s a problem too 😂 I’m sure they’re useful in some niche cases where you need to transport a lot of stuff maybe? maybe?

[hexed jewel]

yeah, just make sure to keep them in a separated pen/hole/whatever, earthen walls maybe so they cannot destroy them lol

[arctic wharf]

just make a lox pit for the meats

[hexed jewel]

indeed, unless you intend to ever ride em, no need for them to ever leave the pit

[hexed jewel]

#suggestions message it has a 10% pierce damage buff

it's intended role is to buff ranged I think, but also that would help some melee styles as well, like spears

[velvet wren]

Does anyone use spears?

[rose swan]

It also reduces stamina usage for attacking, yeah? Movement is extremely good too, important for combat as well. It also has mid level defense.

[hexed jewel]

MANY people, who aren't me, use spears

[rose swan]

I think a lot of folks use spears. It was the weapon of choice for the speed running champion (trials of tyr) IIRC

[velvet wren]

The Tank Cape has attack stam reductions

[lofty wave]

Lowered defence really doesn’t matter in combat unless you want to take unblocked hits

[velvet wren]

"want"

[rose swan]

So you can combine Ask set and Ash cape for an even bigger stamina reduction bonus?

[velvet wren]

The Ashlands is all about being swarmed by enemies. It is fun and challenging, but in such a swarm, good luck not taking any unwanted unblocked hits

[rose swan]

That’s where you use your movement buff to escape instead of tank hits 🙂

[velvet wren]

Yes, just saying that why use the Asksvin set at all with the Tank set available

[hexed jewel]

well mixing and matching cape won't mess up your set buff for ask

[velvet wren]

not saying that

[hexed jewel]

but, I think the intended playstyle/the one buffed to make easiest by ask, is scout, stealth, escape to higher ground, rain down death from above

[lofty wave]

Asksvin armor + feather cape = highest jumps with lowest cost, so you can easily avoid everything

[hexed jewel]

like you're NOT really intended to tangle in melee with a swarm, maybe a one on one, a swarm you retreat to tactically advantageous ground and thin out with bow/crossbow

[velvet wren]

I love technical fights and melee, and was trying out a stick and move style of fighting in the Ask set while my Bro was tanking. iut was fun, but not as effective as Tank and Mae or Tank Tank

[lofty wave]

I only use a bow when I need to (flying enemies and distant spawners)
Fighting ashlands swarms with melee isn’t too bad because friendly fire really helps clear most of the enemies.

[velvet wren]

it is great for roaming around the outside of the battle and taking down 1star Archers or other annoying targets

[hexed jewel]

yea I agree with that, it's a much more exploration and ranged focused, the tank set will excel better in melee

mage even in a way--not getting into melee yourself, just easy to stand back, summoning a few skellies or roots to block, then raining death behind shield

but the mage DPS just puts down most stuff before it can reach you, and you're fast on your feet

[velvet wren]

Roots with frost slow is great

[hexed jewel]

I discovered you can shield bubble the roots too--they don't stick around long enough that to matter too much, but makes them practically invincible to enemy attacks

[velvet wren]

I entered the Ashlands as a mage and loved it. Just trying out the other sets

[hexed jewel]

ignoring effects of skills level 1 Ripper with +10% pierce fro mask, goes from 220 to 242

[open dagger]

#suggestions message there are bronze scraps?

[lofty wave]

Yes, from charred fortresses

[open dagger]

well makes sense i never spent time tearing those appart

[arctic lily]

One fortress has hundreds of bronze potential. Why couldn't it have been iron?!!!

[lofty wave]

Because there’s already enough ways to get a ton of iron.

[arctic lily]

Not nearly as many as copper/bronze, and iron has mass uses.

[empty sand]

I want to discuss a suggestion I have but I want to make sure that I'm considering everything before actually making a post

I don't like the way the damage calculation system works and I think that it makes armor too good against enemies that are weaker than you and too weak against enemies that are stronger than you. I also think that percent damage mitigations are too strong given the percent mitigations are calculated before armor mitigations as opposed to after

[lofty wave]

How would you change damage reduction to ‘fix’ this?

[empty sand]

I think enemies that do very little damage can have their damage increased by having enemies doing at least a percentage of their base damage, and I would say that an exponential function would be more robust to unexpected damage changes as opposed to the current high end flat damage reduction

[granite geyser]

If it's not broken, don't try to fix it

[eternal zodiac]

2 channels sounded prudent, since theres very different ways to suggest stuff if they are working on something already existing or creating new content

[wanton atlas]

scales very badly in multiplayer usually

[empty sand]

It is broken though, taking 0 damage from greydwarves by the swamp tier is unintuitive and makes the black forest boring as soon as you leave it

[empty sand]

I didn't consider that, which part of my suggestion doesn't scale well in multiplayer?

[wanton atlas]

monsters cannot adapt on the fly on there damage output versus diffrent players in the same group

say you are in ashlands. you have 1 tank, 1 archer in light armor and 1 mage

like @granite geyser don't fix what ain't broken

and also. go to in swamps gear and try to fight a 2 star brute or a 1-2 star troll 😉

[empty sand]

A two star troll will do 57 damage if wearing full iron armor but a normal troll will deal 14 damage to the same player

That in itself doesn't seem intuitive, part of my goal is for those values to be closer together

Another issue is that 2 star fuling berserkers (an extreme example) on hardcore difficulty deals 520 base damage

if you are using the current formula of damage - armor and are in the plains tier, you will have 100 armor and take 420 damage

[empty sand]

I'm not sure exactly what you mean, can you explain further?

[wanton atlas]

Damage calculations cannot change as you want it to change

you need to look into first, how does the damage get calculated before it actually hits the player

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Damage_mechanics#Armor

[empty sand]

Are you talking about the current piecwise function?

[empty sand]

I've looked into this article already, I wrote a 10 page paper already designing a new system and comparing it to the current system

[wanton atlas]

not sure if you know. but anything besides "normal" mode is just a WiP

[empty sand]

I did not know this, but that makes sense now, haha

[wanton atlas]

so hard, / hardcore are just a thing we added. it's not balanced what-so-ever

those will probably be adjuset for 1.0 release, or soon there after

depends if our programmer who loves the entire world modifier settings have time to do it before 1.0 or not

the hard mode basicly gives monsters +% damage done. and the players get a negative modifier of +% damage taken

and then it scales even more for hardcore

[empty sand]

Wait, I thought hardcore was just, "Enemies have their damage doubled"?

well, plus extra movement speed on enemies + players doing less damage

[wanton atlas]

no no

he did alot of things

but it's not done by a mile 😅

[lofty wave]

Stars become more common I think

[wanton atlas]

I haven't checked in on all the modifiers he did

I just know some of them

since it's a WiP 😄

[empty sand]

Okay, knowing that the harder difficulties are WiP makes me understand more

[wanton atlas]

I wonder how much damage lord reto does on hardcore 🤔

probably like infinite or something 😄

[hexed jewel]

lol, he hits you once, and the game uninstalls itself

[wanton atlas]

sounds like a fun mechanic 🤔

and he cuts I-frames like no-mans-buissness. right?

[empty sand]

Well, with that being said, are there any rules for what I can and can't put in the suggestions space. I already know that there needs to be the lightbulb

[lofty wave]

He doesn’t do anything to i-frames?

[wanton atlas]

read the 📌 in the 2 channels and you're golden I guess 🤔

[wanton atlas]

no but the players I-frames

IE. he kills you even while you're dodge-rolling 👀

[empty sand]

Oh, also, Is bonemass's forsaken power not too strong, am I crazy?

[wanton atlas]

it's way to strong

it was fine at the time I was made

[lofty wave]

It does nothing to elemental attacks so there are some enemies and bosses in later biomes it’s useless against.

[wanton atlas]

but that was way before mistlands, ashlands

or even hearth & home update with damage and armor re-balance

[arctic lily]

Don't mess with my superpowers, please.

[empty sand]

Okay, understood

[wanton atlas]

||please mess with superpowers|| 😉

[lofty wave]

Mess with the other superpowers, when was the last time you used Yagluth’s forsaken power?

[wanton atlas]

I usually only use Eikthyr 😄

litterally the best ever

[rose swan]

Used Eikthyr for the newest boss, served me very well!

[arctic lily]

I probably don't use that enough, particularly while exploring and mapping, but bonemass is such an emergency relief valve.

Switch to Queen when in mage mode.

[arctic lily]

When is the last time anyone used that power? 🤣

[lofty wave]

Never?

[arctic lily]

Checks notes.... correct

[rose swan]

Would be thematic if yagluths power had eityr regen, but obviously there are a few reasons why that’s not the case… lol

[empty sand]

Is there a way for me to add attachments to my suggestion?

[sour hill]

In a group we once used that yagluth power to take out a couple dvergr tower in succession along with bonemass

[lofty wave]

I don’t think so, but you can have a link

[empty sand]

Alright, bet

[lofty wave]

Yagluth’s power won’t stack with resistances from mead or equipment and since capes have frost resistance and barley wine is very cheap there’s no good reason to use it, and the lightning resistance is useless.

[sour hill]

So?

Saved us from using 2 potions each with a free spell

[unique cove]

That's in the "combat difficulty" setting, not the hardcore preset.

But yes, it goes up to double, 10% enemy movement (and size, for when that matters), player damage at 70% + enemy health increase

Moder takes SO LONG

I don't mind the damage so much but they need to fix the stagger system at those damage levels, 90% of the time you just die for parrying in a current biome

[empty sand]

Parrying is based on the amount of incoming damage, really I feel like that's the worst part

I love parrying ❤️

[sour hill]

Did many full playthrough on hard, which is probably my favorite difficulty now, doing one now on hardcore settings, I still haven't made a shield and I probably won't as enemy do too much damage

[lofty wave]

Parrying would be too strong if you could do it to anything, other options need to be viable too

[unique cove]

You can with a bubble, course that's the only thing that bubble gets to do...

[empty sand]

Can't parry bosses for double damage for a reason

[lofty wave]

You can parry all blockable attacks, but bosses and some flying enemies can’t be staggered in any way.

[sour hill]

Some attacks on higher difficulty are just impossible to parry even with the best armor, food and a carapace buckler

[unique cove]

you mean a 2 star seeker with over 1,000 base damage spread across multiple damage types so no one resistance works?

What system do tames run off of? Are they cut to player stats or up at enemy stats?

[long glacier]

They seem to be on enemy stats, meaning on 2x combat rate they deal double damage (but also take double)

[long glacier]

I believe it’s a maximum of 480 damage in one attack from a 2 star seeker. The wiki lists multiple damage values and types because each of the enemies attacks deal different damages

[lofty wave]

#suggestions message @worthy dirge A deep north update is planned as the final biome update for valheim, what exists now is just a placeholder as it has been since the game released.

Mistlands and ashlands existed as placeholders before their content was introduced in updates.

[granite geyser]

I bet they would've never thought of developing a biome already planned for development

[rose swan]

Nah, I think Deep North is perfect the way it is 🙏

[long glacier]

It’s a cold desolate wasteland, makes sense

[granite geyser]

Didn't they just say that part was going to remain while still adding content based on that?

[agile knot]

I have a complaint but no suggestion. I hope this is a good place for it.

I've been playing solo for a few week and have gotten to the mountains. It seems like the drakes spawn extremely frequently. Maybe that would decrease if I beat Moder? I didn't see anything in the wiki explicitly stating that. Getting interrupted by the rest of the mobs doesn't bother me as much because I can at least buy myself time with the atgir's secondary attack, but drakes require good archery and I'm playing in bed on a Macbook, so all I have to aim with is the touchpad.

Maybe the answer to my complaint is "Valheim's not well suited to playing in bed when you're too tired or sick or whatever to do anything else." Maybe I should play in debugmode and hit 'k' every time I hear a screech.

In any case I feel a little better already knowing at least somebody is going to read this and either laugh or nod sagely. Or both.

Thanks for coming to my :TED: talk.

and please do @ me if you want me to see a reply

bah, on my home server :TED: is a tiny TED icon thingie

[versed sonnet]

The drakes do be annoying lol.

More power to you for playing this with a touchpad of all things

[agile knot]

except for the drakes it hasn't been bad at all

I'm a wicked good shot on my desktop, but it's all the way out in the other room and my bed is warm and has cats on it

(Clearly the solution is to build an elaborate system for using my desktop from bed.)

[arctic lily]

Or train the cats to play and back you up.

[agile knot]

First step: train them to stop flopping on my laptop when I have a drake and two wolves attacking me.

[versed sonnet]

Designing a nice desk that has a fold out function to hang over your bed would be sick. Cable management might be a bit of a pain though with how much it'd move

[agile knot]

and the cables might need to be longer than usual

But this is way off-topic. Thank you all for indulging and backing up my gripe

[fervent shuttle]

I’m both happy about but also unimpressed by his lack of strike speed. Me and my buddy 2v1’d him and he never touched us. Parrying saves you and makes him easy which is a blessing but I was honestly expecting more from Lord Reto

[short wing]

Same here, he never even touched me, threw some vines at him, moved away again and repeated till death did its part.

[fervent shuttle]

Haha, I did the same while my buddy was dodging and weaving and my vines were knocking Lord Reto away from my buddies hits 😂 it was too funny

[fervent shuttle]

Honestly, Xbox controller isn’t a terrible idea for someone in your position. I remember playing Minecraft on a MacBook and that was terrible. I’d look into getting a programmable controller or an Xbox controller if you can get it to hookup. I know the Xbox works for windows but never thought to use it for Apple. My girlfriend played on Xbox before I got her a laptop and it handled fine, much better than a touchpad, I understand your pain sir

How do you guys tag messages from other channels? Above is a clear example that I just can’t figure it out

[short wing]

Like this?: #general message

[peak bronze]

Right click, choose "Copy messages link" and paste

[short wing]

Go to the message you want to link, right mouse it, copy message link and ctrl+v or rightmouse -> paste it where you want.

[fervent shuttle]

Figured the link would remain bulky, never hit send because the clutter always seems a bit much. Good to know. Thanks 🙏🏻

#suggestions message This would be cool but making it not look awkward with that big guy pulling a tiny cart would be trying. Maybe the newest mount from the ashlands would fit the role better but they don’t listen for anyone..heaven forbid you jump off to deal with threats and they just run off and kill everything they sense. Then your cart goes with them and I doubt they care about breaking it so there it goes lol

[fervent shuttle]

#suggestions message

Maybe even add them as minibosses to obtain some kind of amulet or knowledge obtainable no other way 😉 that’d be dope.

Sorry I’m a huge sucker for deep almost hidden secrets in games. I have friends that brush right off things and don’t even take into account what’s hiding where they never care enough to look. Ah! It’s precious

#suggestions message

I main this Asksvin set as a solo when I’m on my server alone. I love this set and I play with the Mage staves, Berserkr Axes and Heavy Blades in my everyday offense strategies. I also run the top eitr, health and stamina foods as my food go-tos. Ashlands is still intense but survivable with this. Some other bonuses could be very cool but the stamina that it saves you is already so GREAT. My girly mained it for a while and I never understood why and then I got my own and it helps so much

[untold gazelle]

Hold up i replied the wrong suggestion

It was supposed to be this one

#suggestions message

[agile knot]

That's a great suggestion! I have two Steam controllers that might do the trick, so I don't even have to buy or make anything. Thanks!

[granite geyser]

@weary hawk

#suggestions message

[velvet wren]

Ya the hybrid options are cool!

My software engineer friend is currently making a mod for this idea so we can playtest it. I just want to try out a high risk high reward build. Glass Cannon pure DPS 🙂 The dodgeroll stam reduction on the Ask cape just begs for melee interactions 🙂
I entered the Ashlands as a pure mage and wanted to try out the other sets. Went Ask first then set it aside for the Tank set and didnt look back for most of the progression. Just going back to the others now to test them out now that I have a more intimate feel for the mobs. As a mage I didnt get the timing down because I just spammed roots and other spells into little kill boxes 🙂 Fun, but I was watching the pure dmg my bro was doing as a Tank and wanted to try it out.
Overall, the utility is fun as Mage, and I like doing some Archery, but neither compared to the damage and suitability of Flametal Set with Beserkir Axes and Sword and Board set up. This is a unanimous conclusion from peeps in my playgroup. Anyway, we will see how the modded Ask set feels.

[vivid ridge]

Does anyone know if more animal nests may be a thing in the future? Like a neck nest like was mentioned. I suggested wolf dens on the old discord.

Volture nests are fun to find. I like that aspect of Ashlands a lot.

On that same note Id love if I could find a sleeping deer somewhere. I think they would be very light sleepers though.

[hexed jewel]

wolf dens would be fun

seems like no one's suggested it since the wipe, maybe resuggest?

[vivid ridge]

I think sleeping animals would make things "trivial" for anybody who wants the game to be super hard or whatever, but I would appreciate it just because it makes sense since our characters sleep.

[hexed jewel]

it'd be a fun little touch adding some life

[vivid ridge]

Not like they would be everywhere

[vivid ridge]

I could do that yeah

[vivid ridge]

The game already feels very alive to me, especially now that theyre adding even more NPCs. But some of the enemies having schedules would just be the icing on it for me.

[hexed jewel]

exactly, and the game is so good about so many of those details that really take it to the next level--the music, lighting, and attention to shadows and reflections, really all just come together in a special sort of vibe

[vivid ridge]

The visuals are exactly why I bought the game in the first place so I feel you. The music grew on me. It was a bit repetitive at first but its really well composed. Im a musician myself so I can get into practically anything if I nerd out about it

[stiff stag]

Honestly wouldn't really be much different. You can already sneak up on animals without them noticing, and running in abruptly will alert them (same should be true for sleeping ones). You can also get sneak attacks off with bows without the animal being alerted. I can only see it being slightly easier in the case where you charge in, where it might take the animal just a bit more time to react than if it were awake.

[arctic lily]

Sleeping animals are not too far out there. That's how you find the Ulvs in frost caves.

[hexed jewel]

oh yeah, they even HAVE a sleeping mechanic already, I totally forgot about those boyos

[weary hawk]

Thats is what Im saying more real world aspects would make this game so much more engaging.
I believe this game more then a living art then a rpg survival

[vivid ridge]

Oh right I forgot about the Ulvs. True true

[lofty wave]

#suggestions message @cinder barn https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Explosive_payload we already have explosives good for endgame mining

[lofty wave]

@forest plank George? From this? https://youtu.be/kTHqJ1LWs70

[forest plank]

Yes exactly

[open dagger]

#suggestions message pure art

[arctic wharf]

I got it, but still didn't think it fit. 🤭

[azure cargo]

#suggestions message

totally agree to that.
It’s especially annoying when you’re sailing slowly and it turns out that some random black forest is in the middle of the ocean, ON THE BOTTOM OF IT?! Wtf this is really weird and annoying as you can just get wet from 1 second of rain that comes from gliched black forest.

[arctic wharf]

Its far too much effort to try and make those kind of changes (probably), and more importantly the benefit for it is rather small when instead the time could just go into more new additions.

Could they iron out a few of the peculiarities though? Perhaps past 1.0 and they shift into bug fixing mode for a while. 🤷‍♂️

[azure cargo]

Nah, I would just make it so map is divided into sections that all have different weather.

It’s not really that hard kind of system to implement

And would make game feel more complete

In 1.0

[arctic lily]

Adjacent areas regardless of biome having similar weather is what I would like to see. Particularly sailing and moving between shallows and ocean and the weather changing every time has never made much sense. Or even on land the weather changing from storm to sunny just because you crossed a boundary line.

[arctic wharf]

Yeah, it is funky indeed.
It would still be quite a bit of effort regardlass... since they would have to scrap what they have now and reimplement the weather.

I just don't see them putting in the effort at this time.
Its full steam ahead to 1.0 for them 🫡

[arctic lily]

The weather systems are already implemented. What has to change is when to trigger them.

It's just what the weather is set to.

[arctic wharf]

They have to work in a whole new feature to determine that though. It's not as simple as you think.
Not that either of us would know the extent of what it would require.

[short wing]

The weather system as implemented now is per segment of map, changing how and when it triggers needs a whole rework of the weather system and introducing something like clouds would be needed.

The weather is now confined in a chunk of map with no overlap to another chunk unless the chunk of map is of the same biome, if I'm not mistaken.
It would need to be changed to only work for parts of that chunk of map and parts of connected chunks.

[arctic wharf]

I am mostly just thinking of what the devs usual do, and this would be one of the things I don't see them doing before they finish.

Ofc, this is just me assuming yeah

I personally would like to see some sort of change here too ofc, but I would think they might consider this for 1.1 or something 🤭

(If they do at all)

[arctic lily]

TBH, global weather instead of per biome would be better than the constant shifting while sailing.

[arctic wharf]

If they blanket global weather... that would be easy, for sure.

Was mostly referring to the suggestion.

[arctic lily]

I know. The suggestion is the better option.

[spiral agate]

I made the suggestion about the weather because I think it is reasonable claim, and I didn't even say when (if ever) it should be implemented. I think the spirit of a good suggestion it's that it improves the game experience. If it cannot be implemented, that's another issue.

[arctic wharf]

But more complicated, and unlikely. For now.

[short wing]

Global weather would be easier but then again needs a rework of how the map and weather works.
Global weather would also be weird.

[arctic lily]

Only weird because of portals. It would seem perfectly consistent if you couldn't get from one end of the world to the other in 2 sec.

[short wing]

I for one would love a more realistic approach to weather and I do hope it gets implemented but it would require some serious work.

[arctic wharf]

I also always found it weird to be in a serious storm on the ocean one second, then nothing as soon as I hit the shore... unless I tried to sail back out and bam it's back 🤣

[short wing]

Not really because when it rains you can really have the edge of rain and step from rain into sunshine and back into rain, it doesn't always rain every where at the same time, it is also not always constantly sunny and you can see rainstorm in the distance as well.

[arctic wharf]

Anywho, it's possible (either way). I just don't know if they would do it.
And 100% would expect they won't before reaching 1.0

[arctic lily]

Possible, but doesn't happen often. I don't think you'd experience this as strange if it didn't happen often in game, either.

[arctic wharf]

I will say I was wrong... if I end up wrong 🤭

[arctic lily]

I really think suggestion discussions don't need to get hung up on implementation details. Certain things are definitively impossible, yes (like the water suggestions), and that should be pointed out, but feasible things can be discussed on their merits regardless of if IG can ever do them before the end of development.

[short wing]

It does happen often but we don't really notice it much because we are indoors so much and have build so much that obstructs our view.
In the open areas like plains, in the mountains or on the ocean where you can see for kilometers it is a common occurrence to see the end of the rain or the start of the rain depending if you are in or out of it.

[arctic wharf]

Water suggestion?

Which one

[arctic lily]

True. It would be OK for this level of realism to not be a part of it in game, though, I think.

[arctic lily]

Various ones on having waterfalls, or being able to build ponds anywhere and such.

Things the game engine can't do.

[short wing]

Yeah I don't think it would bother people and it being a world were magic is available and a fantasy world it wouldn't be too weird to have the same weather all over it.

[arctic wharf]

End of the day - almost anything is possible as long as it doesn't hard contradict an existing mechanic.

Even inland water on different elevations such as those suggestions.

They just won't happen due to what it would entail to not be super jank...

The engine could achieve that.. technically. Just not dynamic water (to be specific).

[spiral agate]

You mean basically changing the physics of water? That should be indeed very difficult to almost impossible, but I'm no dev so I couldn't say why.

[arctic lily]

Didn't mean to get hung up on that particular case. Instead, pretend I said being able to use the pickaxe to make caves. 🙂

[arctic wharf]

Water right now has no physics. Just a water plane and volume... with a surface being distorted by a height map.

Yep, that one's a much more straightforward example lol.

[spiral agate]

adding water physics* lol

[arctic wharf]

People don't realize the terrain is also just a plane with a height map and the ability to tweak it some. It's not voxel terrain...

But then again half of those here might not understand what that means.

[short wing]

No overhang, there are limits to what you can do with the terrain.

[arctic wharf]

Just to come around one last time. Never said that weather like that would not be possible.
Just that it wouldn't be too worth it to them at this time. Or any time pre 1.0 (probably).

They reeeeaaally seem to want to put a bow on valheim 🎁

[arctic lily]

That's been said about many suggestions. Que sera, sera.

[arctic wharf]

Fair haha

[short wing]

@arctic lily For the dead raiser it would also be nice if you could teleport the summoned skeletons to where you are pointing with the staff.
In dungeons they tend to get in the way or get stuck behind something and you eitr have to resummon them again or push them.
Having the right mouse button be a repositioning would also be good.

[arctic lily]

That could be good also, but if I have a choice for secondary. I find often that when I want melee ones I get ranged ones and vice-versa. I could carry a butcher knife with me (I assume it would work) and kill and recast, but thought that choice of summon could be a good feature.

[short wing]

For the rest of the staffs a secondary attack would be nice as well.

ember: maybe a fireblast all around you that does a push-back but not much damage or the more eitr you channel in it the bigger a fireball is thrown.
frost: a pulse of cold around you that freezes or makes mobs very slow.
trollstav: smaller trolls or fuling berserkers instead.
Staff of the wild: bigger vine the more eitr you pump in it.
fracturing: bigger blast the more eitr is pumped into it
Dundr: more pushback and more damage with more eitr put into it or maybe instead of a shotgun like thing more of a cannonball.

I would give the ones that have channeling eitr a diminishing return thing, like 5 times the eitr put into it doesn't mean 5 times the damage but more in the range of 3-4 times, so it is a good surprise attack or more situational than a go to since it is more damage.

[arctic lily]

skeletal fuling berserkers would be fun

[vivid ridge]

yeah exactly

[eager garden]

Here are some feedback about the biome progression I had when I first played, maybe it's just me being stupid, but hey :

• It wasn't clear that Eikthyr had to be done before Black Forest. I looted Black Forests without progressing for quite a while before I figured it out.
• The transition between Swamps and the Mountain was unclear. Bonemass drop doesn't hint toward the mountains and I encountered the Plains biome before the high mountains. Again, I looted Plains without progressing for a while.
• Mistlands: it took me a long time to get 5 cores and a Dvergr extractor, during that time I accumulated a lot of unusable resources and I felt I was missing something.
• Ashlands: There's no indication that Ashland is in the south of the map, so it took quite some time and luck to find it.
  As for suggestion, perhaps additional Hugin/Munin quotes or hints could help all the problems above.

[lofty wave]

I think one of the ravens tells you to go south

And Hugin also tells you to avoid black forest until you’ve killed eikthyr

[rose swan]

Doesn’t Hugin tell you to turn back if you step into the Black Forest?

[arctic lily]

I have heard other people say swamp to mountain wasn't clear. I don't remember what the bird had to say about it (if anything).

[rose swan]

I will say on Mistalnds, I agree that the black core requirement is high. I understand you can destroy your workstations and build another on an as-needed basis, but I think the flow would be better if the stations requires 3 cores each instead of 5.

[lofty wave]

I think you’re supposed to enter mountains early, realise you’re freezing, then come back when you can make frost resistance mead (after swamp)

[rose swan]

That’s a good perspective and makes sense for sure actually

[lofty wave]

That’s how I did it

[arctic lily]

I think the core requirement is fine. I'd tweak the find percentage upward a bit. maybe,

[short wing]

Doesn't the raven tell you what to do in the beginning for eikthyr and when you go into the black forest before a certain point you also get the notification that you aren't strong enough or something along those lines.

Swamp to mountains progression could be more clear indeed.

It could be clearer what you need in the mistlands and the black cores could be more abundant yeah.
A fix would be to show the recipes where you have found some things for and either give a description or a silhouette of what you still need to find to complete it.

I think one of the ravens informs you where to go for ashlands but it has been a while.

[rose swan]

Percentage? Like the rarity of cores?

[arctic lily]

Yes. You shouldn't be able to do 6 mines in a row and not have 5 cores. Something like 2 guaranteed per mine would be a good change.

[short wing]

Yeah, as in each infested mine has at least 1 or a pretty high percentage to have a black core and the possibility to have more than 1.

[rose swan]

Gotcha gotcha, yeah I agree

[hexed jewel]

reading the tip wording on the wiki (for either of the birds), it DOESN'T seem like there's any specific mention of the Ashlands being the far south, it just says "time to go to war, in the Ashlands!"

yeah plus mistlands POI are like one of the easiest to miss to begin with, so it's very possible to just miss mines and opportunities to get these resources--took me ages to find any skulls in this huge area of mistlands, and there were several, I just kept running past them

[rose swan]

Especially now that black cores are required for shield generators, would be nice to stumble upon some more of them.

[hexed jewel]

i love the silhouetted ingredient recipes concept

[silk halo]

i long ago suggested black cores to be found in the abandoned ruins in the Mistlands as a bonus for exploring (they are still full of seekers so the challenge of retreiving them is still there just no dungeon delving required)

also would make for less "aww nothing here, waste of time" moments

[hollow elm]

#suggestions message I agree that, at least, any recipes the are 'uncooked' should include details on what benefit the final product confers.

[rose swan]

If I had to guess, they probably don’t have them in those because they would be easier to get than the ones in the infested mines.

[silk halo]

good theory except half of the ones you find in mines are right near the entrance and guarded by nothing lol

[vivid ridge]

#suggestions message Really great idea. That would clear a lot of confusion up for players who like to go in blind

[arctic lily]

#suggestions message I'd like to see it expand range, even to just double current. Sometimes it almost feels like you're not even wearing one. Maybe not have more wisps flying about your head though. One is annoying enough.

[hexed jewel]

100% I would oppose that either, I personally find the mechanic creative, but just 1 isn't defnitely enough BOTH a "clearing radius not enough" and/or a "sometimes it's just randomly flitting around behind me, not specifically where I want to look"

another idea maybe, have it sort of meander to where your cursor/look direction is?

[arctic lily]

It does do that. If you run, it tends to shoot out in front of you.

[hexed jewel]

yeah that's true

maybe slightly more granular command, some ability to kind of tell it to extend out a bit, "scout" an area?

[arctic lily]

It would have been nice as a necklace that just causes a bubble of clearance around you.

[hexed jewel]

that would probably be more efficient strictly speaking tho I am fond of the little light ball, feels kinda like a familiar

[arctic lily]

I just want it to be continuously effective. Like I was fighting a soldier just now, and it basically hardly clearing the mist at all.

So the thing is 3 meters away and it was shrouded.

[rose swan]

#suggestions message Hmm… don’t really know the solution for something like this, I mean it’s completely random yeah? I know it can be frustrating at times, but the game isn’t choosing to hinder you.

[barren vault]

If it’s random Dogg, then I have the worst luck known to mankind. I’m not sure I believe it. Too high a frequency of the dial flipping directly against me. Easiest option is changing Moder, longer duration or smaller cooldown. Ideally wind would just be hardcoded to be more complimentary to the player’s sailing direction.

[rose swan]

Sorry man, that does sound really unlucky! Maybe find yourself a four leaf clover or rabbits foot 😅

[arctic wharf]

I have two things to say for this kind of a comment/suggestion. And while I get the frustration because being at a crawl when you just want to get there is just boring gameplay, I still would say this.

1- It's an adversity in the game. It's part of (if not the only) real challenging aspect for trying to get somewhere by boat.
Legend of Zelda is one of my favorite series. Wind Waker was a blast. This isn't that game.

2- Minimize boat travel were you can. Stick to landmasses and only hop between them when you run out of options. YOU CAN pick up your boat and place it down again later.
Use portals... they are beyond busted and you can have as many as you want. You won't ever have to make a repeat trip!

The whole rant about refusing to tack... I sort of get but also think is silly. I don't tack, I can't be bothered. but you can easily try to get to the destination by taking a more L shaped route. Yeah it's a bit longer, but you are not paddling then. Wind comes into your face again? Flip the L and go to the other side. Worst case you have a long piece of land getting in your way. So what then? break your boat and run as far as the landmass will take you in your desired direction 🤣

Just to play devils advocate, If I was to consider something to alleviate this myself. 🤔 Without just removing the feature of course, since that might be the only way to truly make you happy by removing that facet of difficulty.
Perhaps some of the mid tier and beyond boats can get access to a mini boost feature that also increases your turning radius greatly for like 5 seconds. That way at least, you can course correct without turning like a semi truck if you lack the already built up momentum. 🤷‍♂️ Weather by just boat tiers or some other external item/upgrade.

What we truly need more of in my opinion is other forms of adversity on the sea's to make the trip a bit more exciting. Serpents are rare (which is fine), but that's it aside from the wind 🤭

[barren vault]

To your first point ZionE… I don’t think there’s any challenge in progressing slowly for no other reason than travel velocity. That’s not good adversity, that’s just… dull adversity. It’s not difficult, it’s just extremely dull. There’s no skill element, or anything virtuous about it aside from needing to be patient and/or opening Valheim discord to complain about it while into your 27th minute of rowing. And as said, sailing in Valheim CAN be fun! Bopping over the waves with a strong wind behind you is actually fun. Not every aspect of the game needs to be an obstacle.

To the second… perhaps, but you can’t actually avoid sailing a lot of the time… but neither should sailing be something you look to avoid, if wind was a less onerous mechanic at least. I stand by my tacking comments, and find boat breaking/transporting to be a bit cheesy. But appreciate the thoughts.

Would be delighted to hear more ideas about additions to the ocean biome to look beyond the wind of course. Curiously I’ve found suggestions to expand the ocean biome about as popular as my wind moaning is.

[rose swan]

More rock pillars (perhaps like the ones you see in the plains) in the ocean would be cool, like 2-4 rock spires in a cluster. Would make for some really cool bases!

Zion mentioned Wind Waker- they have extremely interesting island designs! Stuff like that in Valheim could be really neat imo.

[uncut linden]

Dragon roost island! ^w^

[arctic wharf]

Can't run from the serpents if the wind is ageinst you... have to change your course 🤭

There is quite a bit they could do for the ocean indeed, but I don't even think they would have to do very much to make it a whole lot more interesting.

The kraken are great... now give us another 5 to 10 more such encounters or interesting formations and your odds of running into some neat stuff would skyrocket.

I also wouldn't mind 2 or 3 more mobs for the ocean, even if nothing major.

Not asking for earth sea creatures either... could come up with better stuff mostly

Or at least gave em a mystical spin like the hare.

Am definetly on the boat for some ocean updates either just before or with 1.0 😉

[rose swan]

Heh, “on the boat”

[ashen tinsel]

Various things to crash into and break out at sea for resources maybe? An odd barrel or crate that we already have assets for so there are mini-objectives while you're sailing can break the monotony, kinda like windwaker's rupee-barrels.

[errant wedge]

i'd love for the krakens/leviathans to have more use. You make the abyssal dagger and harpoon once and you never need to seek out leviathans ever again

[arctic wharf]

introduce 2-3 build pieces using the material, and bam... good to go lol

[rose swan]

Would it make sense to use as bait?

Don’t know much about chitin lol

[arctic wharf]

Think of chitin as like exterior bone plates... it's similar and very much not appatizing hahaha

[obtuse wolf]

bug skin

[rose swan]

@barren vault made some ocean suggestions, you had me trying to think up some ideas lol. Not necessarily original, but I figured you’d be interested.

[lofty wave]

#suggestions message @raw knoll There's already a way to toggle the visibility of map markers

[raw knoll]

ah okay

changed it so there's some other things

[rose swan]

#suggestions message You could always make the server yourself? 😉 or find one!

[serene igloo]

@lone zenith I completely agree with you about the translations being weird

[granite geyser]

@lone zenith

Both of those options can literally be made by yourself.

Create a server for finnish, send an email to ask to join to the translation team/community

[barren vault]

Good ideas! Would be great to see how they’d design an ocean dungeon… thinking like a sunken crypt but with more depth, different mobs, and yeh some sort of Dyrnwyn-like set to collect would be sweet

[arctic lily]

#suggestions message Makes me think spyglass. Bronze or copper + crystal + something mistlands (maybe refined eitr) so it doesn't unlock before then.

[rose swan]

I think it got lost during the server hack? But I had suggested an armor set that could be found instead of crafted that had a feature of revealing more map. Someone else had this idea of a falcon familiar that had the same effect.

[rose swan]

The idea of Crystal getting some more uses sounds good though

[rose swan]

If we had starred lox, following the standard, 1-star would drop 10 meat and 2-star would drop 20 😅 that would be pretty crazy! Also, the damage those lox would do to your base would be crazy

[obtuse wolf]

@hollow pivot 💡 👍

[hollow pivot]

?

[lofty wave]

The developers have said that they’ll be adding achievements in 1.0

[unique robin]

why do people not like the more starred stuff?
im just curious, im not calling anyone out, im just interested

[lofty wave]

There are some starred creatures I want (I’ve suggested starred deathsquitos) but I feel that some creatures that already don’t have stars should stay that way. Loxes, stone golems and abominations would all take forever to kill with two stars, for example.

[unique robin]

i kill golems within a few seconds (im not a great player) so i dont think golems would be too much but aboms and i gues being one shot by deathsquitoes makes sense

[lofty wave]

Do you parry stone golems? You wouldn’t be able to do that so you’d be dealing half the damage, and there would be less time to attack.

[unique robin]

i do parry them but if they are starred, they are still easy to dodge and get around with, aboms just take forever to kill though, and them running away doesnt help, golems atleast dont run away

[peak bronze]

Once I tested spawning 2 Star Lox and boy it hit hard even with maxed Carapace gear (before Ashlands) and parrying it was hard. So I understand some mobs don't need Star variants.

[finite vapor]

Starred mosquitoes kinda cringe you will just get burned even on normal mode for not wearing a root vest. Shouldn't be forced to run that armor

If you want to feel the brunt of a 2 star squito, play on very hard

[lofty wave]

I don’t mind the damage of starred enemies, I just don’t like how long they can take to kill.

[finite vapor]

Casual players rage enough about regular squitos on normal mode, don't think it'll fair well adding stars to them

[lofty wave]

A two star deathsquito would only have 30 health, it would still die in one hit to most things

And 180 damage which is absolutely possible to survive with appropriate food and armor

[finite vapor]

Just play very hard buddy

[lofty wave]

But then all the deathsquitos and every other enemy would be buffed

[finite vapor]

Yes and you will see how annoying it is when 2 super mosquitos come flying out of the mist at you

I just don't think it would be a pleasant experience for the majority of the playerbase. Regular squitos already wreck the crap out of casuals.

[lofty wave]

They only have 20 more damage than wolves and attack incredibly slowly compared to other enemies

[sour hill]

People rage about deathsquitoes because they enter the plains in troll armor, before they even enter a swamp, die in 1 hit and can't recover their gear because they sailed far away

[arctic lily]

I think if Loxes got stars they'd have to be rebalanced. The ones we have now would be the 1-star ones, with a level above and below. Not that I think that's what we should do. The commonality of the current ones is good as is, and I wouldn't want to make them rarer.

[sour hill]

I think the solution to this is having the world generate swamps starting on the second quarter of the map and plains on the third quarter, like they do with the mistlands. I do believe plains start to spawn too early on the map and this would help people avoid that situation and force people into the normal progression

[wet drift]

I would agree if hardcore was default.

As things stand, while one or two feelbad moments are likely on your first playthrough, the immersion cost from such a structured experience just doesn't seem worth it.

Honestly, I think deathsquitos are the real problem here. They are balanced around being one hit, so when they aren't, they're just gonna kill you. At least the first time you encounter them. They are a potentially fun enemy, that fits better in a game where the player has more even power.

[lofty field]

I am in favor of starred lox, but just as night only spawns, like wolves and asksvin.

Finding and taming a 2* lox could be a fun challenge.

[rose swan]

2 star deathsquitos would be a huge nuisance 😅

[arctic wharf]

Having played with mods that has starred lox... it doesn't actually change all that much. 🤭

At most they are a bit better for farming.

[rose swan]

Does a 2-star drop 20 meat? 😂

[lofty wave]

A single 2-star lox would drop everything you need from lox for the entire playthrough

[rose swan]

Yeah, I think that’s the #1 reason I’m personally opposed haha

[quartz totem]

I think ⭐ variants should add a % chance of a drop. If the drops are 100%, then a 1⭐ would 125% (1 guaranteed +25% of a second) and a 2⭐ 150%, not double or triple it. That would "solve" said "issue". For a Lox, drop 100% is 5 meat, a 1⭐ would be 6 with a 5% more for a 7th, and a 2⭐ 7 with 10% more for a 8th. (therefore it would not bloat that much)
ps: I know percentages works in various ways

[lofty wave]

Why should the drops become luck dependent? (or even more luck dependent for any drops that are already random)

[quartz totem]

They are not. A no-star mob drops everything it needs as it already is. Only the variants Add a bit of "Luck" on top of it. (tho they are harder to kill) Plus many drops get "mold" in a chest after you use them for their purpose

[lofty wave]

Why should the drops be luck dependent after the player already got lucky enough to even find a starred creature?

[quartz totem]

Also star variants are rare. So it would not change that much anyway

[granite geyser]

@crystal glacier I need confirmation on what you wanted to mean in your suggestion...

[crystal glacier]

do you mean the ""? im not a native english speaker but i can guess what i did wrong, ill correct it

[granite geyser]

Now that is much better

[crystal glacier]

sorry 😅

[quartz totem]

The way I said, more star variants could be added into the game and not bloat it even more. Just doubling the loot/damage/hp etc is so... dunno, dull.

And there are some progression-recipes that requires trophies. And many of them are 10%. So "lucky" is not a problem when it is above 100%.

Say the cultists for example, their loot table: 1-2 Red Jutes and 10% for a trophy. This "1 or 2" means its 150% drop rate.

[rose swan]

Oooh actually starred cultists would be cool 👀

I need that sweet sweet jute 🤌

[lofty wave]

They could get different flame colours like surtlings?

[quartz totem]

That would be awesome 😊

[peak bronze]

There are - from ||Geirrhafa raid "You get the chills"||

[quartz totem]

Watched a video. they do! Either way, some mobs could have natural star variants

[rose swan]

Ahh didn’t know that!

On a side note, anyone else find it strange that we use lox trophies for misty bait?

For all you fishermen out there

[peak bronze]

Wasn't Misty bait used to fish Pufferfish too?

But true, could still use some Mistlands mob trophy.

[rose swan]

Deep (serpent) bait misty is used for puffefish currently. I feel like it should be a seeker trophy for misty bait?

[peak bronze]

It was Misty bait for Pufferfish, according to Wiki

Heavy bait (Serpent) is used for fish in ocean

[rose swan]

You’re right! Sorry, got a little mixed up lol

[peak bronze]

Nah, no problem. It's been long since I've fished 😅

[rose swan]

I was just fishing for pufferfish last night, so I should’ve remembered 😂 think I found a 4 maybe 5 star, it drained my stamina so fast. I had never seen anything like it lol.

But yeah, still think it would be more fitting if seeker trophies were used for misty bait instead of lox trophies

[peak bronze]

Or maybe Tick trophies for Misty bait?

[rose swan]

Ahh that would be good too

Lot of opportunities, since mistlands has so many bugs 🐛

[lofty wave]

Dvergr trophies would be more interesting

[eternal wyvern]

G’jall trophy is the only valid option.

[stiff stag]

Yeah, it follows a pattern of using the larger/bulkier enemies from each biome, so lox trophies replacing fuling trophies for stingy bait and gjall or soldier trophies replacing lox trophies for misty bait is what would be expected to happen.

Whether that would be a good or bad change is another matter though.

[rose swan]

Good point!

[peak bronze]

Not Soldier tho, they seem to be rare as heck.

Also the change for Plains tier bait would be reasonable.

[arctic lily]

I'd say gjall if going that route, since soldier is for Queen respawns.

[lofty wave]

#suggestions message Leather scraps exist to provide a requirement of killing boars (and bats too but you don’t need leather by that point) to craft certain items. If Iron Gate wanted us to kill boars or deer, they’d both drop the same item.

[echo gyro]

this doesn't make any sense though. by letting you turn a resource from an objectively more difficult mob to kill in large quantities it would give you an actual reason to kill deer other than when you need hides specifically, and you would effectively store more scraps per chest/inventory slot by keeping a stack of hides that can be broken down into scraps, making hides just nicer to keep on hand all-around. its quality of life.

[lofty wave]

You can farm boars if you need more leather

[fervent shuttle]

Don't know if this was suggested or not.

Ballista's aggro-ing to everything except players that have access to the ward (if a ward is within range of the balllista) if no ward then aggro everything

[echo gyro]

but why is having another option an issue. you cant even farm deer, it wouldnt be abusable to any degree.

[fervent shuttle]

It's an idea even I've wondered why they haven't added. But as someone that loves taming all the animals and making big farms and all that. I can confidently say, once you get level 3 boar, you're already at a point you have too many scraps to know what to do with. But all in all, it's quite easy to take down many boar, if you really need that many scraps I'd just recommend taming boar and getting a butchers knife. You'll get stacks in no time. It'd be a great mechanic to make scraps into leather and vis versa but not something super useful as everything is already quite bountiful as is

[echo gyro]

its not about needing lots of scraps though, its about having moments where you need more scraps at a moment's notice and having a redundancy you can fall back on. "oh i need 15 more scraps, lemme grab 5 deer hides really quick" rather than having to go slaughter boars youve farmed or hunt wild boars

[lofty wave]

So I should be able to craft wolf pelts from crystal because it’s quality of life?

[echo gyro]

thats the poorest faith argument ive ever seen...

[lofty wave]

I don’t want to kill more wolves so I’ll use the materials from stone golems I’ve already killed

[echo gyro]

deer hides are large pieces of leather, you could rip them into scraps. crystals arent wolf pelts.

[lofty wave]

It’s exactly the same as deer hide and leather scraps but another biome

[echo gyro]

its not at all...

wolf pelts arent made of crystals.

[lofty wave]

And boar leather isn’t made of deer hide

[echo gyro]

whatever dude

[granite geyser]

It can be locked behind a workbench level

[echo gyro]

they dont want to have an actual logical conversation lol, save your breath

[stiff stag]

They are being very logical, that boar leather is naturally not made from deer hide, hence why it was never a thing to begin with. Seems you're the one not interested in having a logical conversation.

[lofty wave]

Turning mob A’s materials into mob B’s materials isn’t something this game does at all and I don’t see why this one instance should exist, especially for a material that is already so easy to collect. And I give an example of the exact same system in a later biome and suddenly it seems illogical?

[stiff stag]

I think a more accurate representation would be stitching a bunch of leather scraps together to get wolf hides.

[vivid ridge]

I think anything could be leather scraps. If it comes from a bat and also a boar, I dont see why it also coming from deer would be weird. Theyre all mammals. So I get what they are saying.

I dont think it really matters either way though. Just portal to meadows. Or have a base there.

The whole game has stuff like that where you have to back track. I dont see it as a problem

If we went that route, one could argue we should be able to convert red jute to blue jute. Or convert one type of fish to another type of fish. Convert black cores to surtling cores.

[rose swan]

Well, all fish can be turned into raw fish 😅

I can understand all angles of this, don’t think it would change much either way.

[vivid ridge]

I meant the collectable ones I guess.

[rose swan]

I do agree with Rianu though. If we were able to convert hide into leather scraps of any kind, it should be locked behind a workbench level. Don’t really see the need for something like this though 🙂 even for builders who may use a lot of scraps for their builds, they’re easy to come by.

[vivid ridge]

leather scraps are in almost every biome yeah

[wet drift]

I like it because it makes sense, and doesn't ruin anything else.

[olive yacht]

do you think that theyll add a different menu for armor or not?

[rose swan]

Hmm I don’t think so

[olive yacht]

damn

[wanton atlas]

@ebon idol the Finnish translation in game is made by players. If you find faults in it. You can report in on our website under support section

[drowsy delta]

Is Valheim going to increase the size of the Ashlands? Because it's small 😦

[lofty wave]

It’s small, but not too small

[crystal glacier]

What are bad points about my farming cart idea if i may ask

[rose swan]

I don’t think it’s a bad idea, I just think there are better ways to improve upon farming 🙂 we are getting a tweak to farming anyways, so I’m curious to see how that changes things

Things like carts are already a bit tedious to move around imo

[arctic wharf]

I thought about it a few times actually. It's not neccessarily bad, but these devs are quite ageinst too much automation. We (unfortunately for you) are also just about to get a new tool that will help with planting more crops faster. Personally, I will likely prefer this tool to the prospect of somewhat jankily tugging along a seeder 🤭

[arctic wharf]

Thanks for the tunes that are stuck in my head @wanton atlas

Pedro pedro pedro pe

[devout coral]

@sage rover We're just about to get The Bog Witch with the next update, so we'll probably be able to get some temporary buff items from her.

[arctic wharf]

While that might be a some what valid reason, I personally still think that haldor and hilder could still use a bit more love too...

Haldor just needs some better stuff... OR just more use for some of what he already has like the lightning stone.

And hilder I imagine could be more organically expanded on with a few more side quest chests to get from the later biomes.
🫡

Easy solution is build pieces that consume some of what they sell. Always reason to return then lol

[devout coral]

I think some stronger but unrepair-able weapons would be cool aswell, maybe after placing certain boss trophies at the altar?

[arctic wharf]

Perhaps hehe

Have more than enough weapons tho imo

[devout coral]

That's true, I'd just love to buy something else that I can use xd

[lofty wave]

We could get weapons that are missing, such as a mountains-tier polearm, but no objectively stronger weapons because that would make the game easier, or everything would need to be rebalanced making our current weapons weaker

[devout coral]

I don't mean that much stronger, for example, if you only killed Eikthyr, you could buy a level 3 copper sword equivalent for a couple hundred gold, doesn't sound that op to me.
But I totally agree with the missing weapons!

[silk halo]

last additions to the traders were clothing and biome dependant fishing bait lol, i don't hold out much hope for anything beneficial xD

[arctic wharf]

Well...they are currently adding tons of suggestions atm 👀 who knows.

[gray quarry]

According to that live stream, the bog witch will ||sell recipies for some more advanced foods (feasts) and meads/potions.|| They didn't give a lot of details, but this seems to be coming along with a bunch of QoL-changes surrounding crafting in general.

Ohwait that should probably have been spoiler covered. Fixed.

[silk halo]

if it isn't in the patchnotes it didn't happen, ||yet xD||

[rose swan]

#suggestions message on one hand, I hate flying mob raids. On the other hand, this would be neat

(I play with raids disabled anyways, doesn’t affect me much)

[lofty wave]

Flying mob raids are good because the players who build terrain walls actually have to do something

[rose swan]

Agreed!

[peak bronze]

And one can never have enough Volture meat

[hexed jewel]

that's my thought, and right now the only permanent flyers raid is bats unless you count gjall

oh gjall disableds after queen!?

[peak bronze]

Gjall raid can happen only in Mistlands tho.

[hexed jewel]

right it was already super limited!

literally just looked that up and realized, no wonder I never rolled it--they should change that, they already HAVE the seeker raid for queen army that disables

[lofty wave]

It should become available for all biomes with a 1-star gjall after defeating the queen

[peak bronze]

I had the Gjall raid triggered only twice in the time Mistlands has been added.

[rose swan]

Blob wants to see the world burn 😂

[hexed jewel]

xD

[lofty wave]

No, I just want to see the people who abuse terrain walls burn

[hexed jewel]

gjalls are slow enough targets I imagine--yet to build one personally--the ballistae might actually be very useful against them, like 6 ballistae all in a line on the top of the wall, unloading volleys as the gjall approach, encourage more use of them if the gjall are a threat outside the mistlands

tbh, no small part of gjall's difficutly also is the terrain you confront them in, low visibility and precarious topography, they'd be probably a lot easier in a lot of other biomes

[arctic wharf]

Bat raids are so bad too....
No actual threat, just livestock assassin's 🙃

[hexed jewel]

truly

[peak bronze]

I just had it triggered 3 times yesterday and during one it killed my pair of 2 star Wolves in Mountains (partially because I hit them few times accidentally with friendly fire on).

[hexed jewel]

they both assassinate tames not sealed hermetically in a bunker for just this occasion, AND ALSO, encourage any tamed lox you might have foolishly thought looked adorable free roaming your base to tear it apart chasing the bats

they are somehow simultaneously the least threatening mob and raid and yet also the most frustrating and destructive mob raid

[arctic wharf]

This reason alone is why I don't like flying raids. It's more chaos than threat... and if gjall were a thing everywhere than RIP any structures you made 🤣

As they do bombing runs over your base.

So yeah, good call to lock them to later biomes imo, but at the same time....

👐 portals!

.
Been unable to think of any good middleground.

[hexed jewel]

well, id say, since you can turn raids (or combat difficulty) just down or off, personally my design decision would be "you should be able to build a defensible base and defend it against this level of raid, by this point in the game"

but also, could go half-measure of opening up a few more biomes after killing queen but not the full monte--maybe keep meadows a sanctuary

[rose swan]

What if raids gave a little warning? Like 10 seconds before the raid actually starts? 🤔

[arctic wharf]

I am one who likes to try to play by the games "vanilla" settings, and just sometimes it's "hard mode" if said mode actual increases mechanical complexity. Because of this I find it hard to turn off raids despite them not adding much of value to me 🤣

[hexed jewel]

a raid warning is a really good idea

[lofty wave]

It should at least be enough time to rest. Twice I’ve had a raid as soon as I log in and didn’t have time to rest.

[arctic wharf]

Yeah, I agreed with it myself. Like 30 seconds to prep. But that's only a relatively small QOL.

[finite vapor]

Volture raid would be nice rather than two undead raids of the same charred garbage

[lofty wave]

And some raids like wolves and skeletons surprise shouldn’t have warnings

[rose swan]

Oh man, now that’s rough lol

[rose swan]

Oooh that’s a good idea

[hexed jewel]

i think it should have a base time of enough time to rest, a variable element, and POSSIBLY an additional amount of minimum time for certain (say, harder) raids

yeah and some no warning--and more diversity of "not at base" raidsa

we just got the wolves, and the CONCEPT is BRILLIANT, but wolves just aren't dangerous in ashlands gear

[arctic wharf]

Almost wasn't even considering the not at base raids. I much prefer those 🤭

[lofty wave]

Deathsquito raid in plains?? Or growths?

[hexed jewel]

omfg

for the memes alone worth it

[peak bronze]

"It feels stingy in the air..."

[hexed jewel]

"what's that buzzing sound...?"

[peak bronze]

"Sounds like a Finnish midsummer..."

(We have a lot of mosquitos during the midsummer)

[rose swan]

Would like to see more out-of-base raids for sure!

[tight rune]

"what's buzzing" all of my tamed animals dying

[hexed jewel]

LULLULULULUL, true

[quartz totem]

One of the things I don't like is how tamed mobs are able to see through walls. I know there's the proximity meter, but any wall (or ceiling) should block their sight. I basically lost my pen

[arctic lily]

It would be good if tames lost their chew-through-the-walls tendencies.

[silk halo]

would have been bad for builders before passive mobs and no raid sliders

[lofty wave]

Good thing we have those now, then

[silk halo]

you must have forgotten the days when the floods of complaints happened xD

[lofty wave]

Complains about what?

[silk halo]

got to have some reward for being careful, planning and preparing well, if all that can be decimated in seconds with no recourse players get very mad