suggestion-discussion

[open dagger]

just kidding

[blissful nest]

quite literally electric boogaloo

[quick marsh]

The thought behind irl lightning rods are like the hair on your body, a way to bleed off excess charge before it becomes a lightning bolt or static shock.

[mild river]

stone portals?

[lofty wave]

You can make them with ashlands materials to teleport all items

[mild river]

that is bloody amazing, I must inform my friends asap!

[plush trout]

Increasing physical damage per hit gain by player character... Or slower movement and attack speed...

[sick breach]

I hope a theme of the Deep North is different movement methods, and mastering them is what gates your progress. Skating/skiing/dog sledding, navigating ice, freezing winds, or deep snow, I think it would make the last biome feel really unique.

Especially if combat was integrated. Imagine trying to kite and land blows on super fast enemies while skating/sledding across a frozen lake, dodging incoming ranged AOE attacks and avoiding getting bogged down by enemies. Trying to keep your momentum so the ice doesn't crack under you.

[frank stump]

The biggest thing I like about Valheim is how you are free to play however you want
The biggest complaints I have about Valheim are the times where that isn't true and you're forced through a funnel to play in 1 or a much smaller selection of ways

This focus on movement and such sounds like it would be a VERY narrow funnel and I really hope that doesn't happen

Adding new options definitely sounds cool!
Forcing you to use them definitely not

I feel they would have to add some sort of new movement option as a final reward. I mean, you've traversed the whole map south to north, giving you another way to improve travel from now on seems perfect
But as someone who really likes to take things slow with health food heavy diets, heavy armor, and shields and then focusing on parries in combat.
Being forced to run around a ton goes against all of that.

The most narrow funnel I've seen actually in game so far is Bonemass nearly requiring clubs but that's just a boss fight so I gotta just tough it out and switch back to what I like after, it's only a weapon change for me but my archer buddy toughed it out too.
If it was a whole biome that would be too much. I wouldn't ask my archer buddy to switch to sword and board for a whole biome and I wouldn't want him to ask me to switch to light armor and bows for a whole biome

[stiff stag]

That's how literally any game that isn't a pure sandbox is designed. Not much of a game otherwise if there isn't some set structure to progression.

[sick breach]

While i see your point about not being forced into a kite-heavy, dodging playstyle, i still think there's room for movement related challenges for tanks as well. For example if there were periodic storms that could blow you in a certain directions unless you used an ice pick tool to anchor yourself to the ice, and then you have to deal with enemies while having limited movement.

The trick would be in making mastering at least one of these challenges required.

Could also add a mechanic where if you're in the lee of some terrain you're safe from the wind. Just send some rays from the player in a cone pointed into the wind of a certain length. If enough hit terrain, you're not affected by the Blown debuff. Also dont apply if Sheltered.

[blissful nest]

#suggestions message
Would be cool if they took chop damage neutrally
High health to still be challenging even with that (1500+ health)

1.5x Fire
1x Slash, Chop, Poison
0.5x Blunt, Lightning
0.25x Pierce, Frost
Immune Spirit, Pickaxe

[vivid ridge]

#suggestions message I suggested this like a month ago

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message @jagged flame oars have been explicitly rejected by the developers. Also, for future reference, discord has a search function to help find relevant info (it's in the top right and has a lot of built in functionality for filtering results to find exactly what you need).

[devout heron]

#suggestions message Why on earth is this downvoted ?
Logical fire is better than a weak fire that goes off by itself.
People afraid that fire takes over ?

#suggestions message
Legit, since tails quickly become useless, I would not allow them to reproduce tho and need a body of water.

[mild river]

imo, seems like a lotta work to be put into a feature that isnt very necessary, especially if its an optional thing

[devout heron]

Well it is a lot of work to do the feature right. Right now the feature is really worthless. Spamming fire staff all over dark forest and the fire goes off instantly.. Making this effect really futile unless you have some wood that you had stack and got lost or maybe a wall destroyed.
Either way that fire feature needs to be better and not half made like it is now ngl

[mild river]

I like your suggestion, makes a lotta sense. cant sprint in water effectively n its logical that you'd have more friction when walking slowly through the mud

[sick breach]

#suggestions message I feel like dyrnwyn should've been an atgeir, given that there was already a flametal sword.

[long glacier]

They could just make a flametal atgeir, I think a sword makes more sense because it’s a more iconic and recognizable weapon

[lofty wave]

Dyrnwyn is a sword because it existed as an unobtainable item before ashlands

[wanton atlas]

Dyrwyn has been a sword in valheim for over 5 years already.
we aren't going to change that

[hollow elm]

#suggestions message Also, skin roof pieces (as per Fuling villages).

[mild river]

that would be cool n I see no reason not to have em... game is lacking in roof options anyways

[granite geyser]

They won't

[sick breach]

I wasn't aware of this.

[wanton atlas]

Its the original firesword from Valheim. Its been a thing you could create from meteorites back in the days.

Creating it was removed but it's still in the game along the new one

[sick breach]

Fair enough. Still, I don't know why there wasn't an Ashmetal Atgeir; it's the perfect crowd control weapon for Ashland's swarms and an Ashmetal halberd would've looked dope.

[crimson river]

Were horses used in scandinavia around the year 500-1000? it would make sense if they were, considdering they were used in Europe 4000 years ago.

curiosity sparked by this: #suggestions message

[quick marsh]

Horses have been suggested before and there even is a mod for them(among other rideable tames).

[quartz totem]

Not that it can't have typical animals, but I rather have creatures like asksvins, neck, morgens, and cultists, that (may) resemble animals than the animals itself.

[wanton atlas]

yes there was horses.
no we won't add them to valheim

1. you are not in the normal world vikings lived when you are playing.
2. valheim isn't a viking simulator, it's based on viking age, but it's not a 100% accurate game.
3. adding horses to the game would require alot of balancing.
4. you can ride other things already.

[crimson river]

Point being, whatever is added should for the most part be 1 of 2 things, either fantastical/alien, or lore accurate. if it's something from the real world that didnt belong near vikings, that breaks immersion. This goes for basically all entertainment based on real culture or history.

Adding ostritches or african elephants would probably break immersion.

[crimson river]

fair

[granite geyser]

I'm sure rooting multiple enemies or multiple chain lightning procs at the same time with the aoe doesn't sound op at all...

[granite geyser]

I wish I could have personal pins

[sick breach]

Well the aoe damage was just as op in all of the preceding biomes, so shouldn't be an issue.

[granite geyser]

But you are now comparing a simple almost guaranteed aoe stagger vs actually being able to break the whole biome with the special effects.

Again, you would be able to root multiple enemies as well as activating the chain lightning that deals 75 damage each MULTIPLE TIMES

You would have little to no reason to use any other weapon because a nature and very especially a chain lightning atgeir would destroy everything.

As if atgeir was not op enough, the chain lightning spam with the secondary would be WAY too broken

[sick breach]

The root is from the stagger or...?

[granite geyser]

Both nature and lightning are procced individually per enemy hit.

Meaning that rooting a whole army or the chain lightning activating more than once would be possible.

Chain lightning alone would one shot whole armies. While it would make sense to be able to destroy many enemies easily, it would just make atgeir a no-brainer

That's slighly better

[sick breach]

Ok so its either mass rooting or mass lightning, not both. I was wondering.

And while it might be an easy choice of what's the most effective, the same could be said for every mage weapon vs melee weapons. You're not "forced" to go atgeir just like you're not forced tp go mage.

[blissful nest]

I will say, the Himminaffl is not too shabby already in the ashlands despite hte pierce resistance
it does more lightning than iolite weapons

[granite geyser]

No, but why using any other weapon when an iolite atgeir is clearly the best choice?

It's like going into mistlands and refusing to use ember staff.

The only reason you would refuse to use it is because it makes the biome more boring due to how easy it becomes

[sick breach]

Or because it doesn't fit your playstyle? Maybe you don't use it because you want to have a shield, or because you really like how cool the two handed sword looks.

The idea that the only reason people don't use the ember staff is because they're try-hards is ridiculous.

[fossil coral]

Mistland still worry's me. there is possible to jump on a rocks only if you eat 2-3 food for agility. Usualy you eat HP/aether so it is absolutley impossible to climb at the walls of rocks. How you was test this location? For my 30 years of gaming experience i set Mistlands as №1 the most worst locatiom ever made (and i saw a lot of trash). I can compare Mistlands with Emerald forest in WoW in Pandaria or underwater locations without vision. Уou cant see and cant move as both in one time - you cant do that. You want to cause players to feel a psychodrama or mental insane people? Only one location is kill all the game - remake this. Add walkable path, bridges and base building on a Teldrasill Tree, etc. From any sight Mistlands is full unplayable even if you hardcore player with very nice skills. No way. This is you biggers Mistake (lands).

[granite geyser]

Less than thinking people would not use it vs slayer just because of looks...

I just... Lol

[mild river]

skill issue :3

it may be a difficult biome, but god I love it's vibe

[still vapor]

Add picking items with harpoon

[mild river]

#suggestions

do lightbulb emoji at front of your message

[still vapor]

Aight

[mild river]

I for one agree with that suggestion fyi

[still vapor]

Oopsies 5min cooldown

[mild river]

I gotchu

[still vapor]

Yup

[sick breach]

Dude, 100% of people don't run the absolute optimal route every time. I personally have just started a new character simply because i like the look of the two handed sword. You keep thinking everyone plays the game like you, and its not true. The vast majority of people playing this game can't rattle off the stats of all elemental attacks.

You act like a lightning atgeir cant be added because it would be the only option, despite the fact there already is a lightning atgeir and it hasn't made every other weapon redundant. Stop being ridiculous.

[still vapor]

Add guns then.

[mild river]

you're making some good points but I believe the falla you are arguing with is impossible :p

[still vapor]

Viking with a gun. 𝓱𝓮𝓵𝓵 𝔂𝓮𝓪𝓱

[sick breach]

Plenty of people have managed mistlands just fine. Eat some stamina foods, wear fenris gear for exploring, dont jump off tall rocks that will kill you, make sure to equip a wisplight, make the feather fall cape... there are plenty of options. I personally think the mistlands is their best biome.

[sick breach]

Well yeah, but still important to not let insane declarations like "fire staff is the only logical choice for mistlands" go unchallenged.

[fervent geyser]

Was there already similar suggestion to mine in the #suggestions ? If it exists already please link

[quartz totem]

@fervent geyser Not* new ones, I just wanted new level upgrades to it. Does not need to change the aesthetics of it

[fervent geyser]

that will work out too, but it would be great to see some new sprites

i think new ones will be better because we dont have any tools that is past lvl 3

[granite geyser]

Yes, I very explicitly stated that...

[granite geyser]

You... Completely missed the point...

Incredible

[sick breach]

"No, but why using any other weapon when an iolite atgeir is clearly the best choice?

It's like going into mistlands and refusing to use ember staff.

The only reason you would refuse to use it is because it makes the biome more boring due to how easy it becomes"

[granite geyser]

Precisely...

The best choice.

Not the only one.

And you're comparing himminafl which just deals lightning damage to a flametal lightning atgeir which would have chain lightning

You are missing the point

Imagine multiple chain lightnings being done very easily by just spamming secondary in groups of enemies.

How could you balance that? It's not like the other enchanted choices are superb...

[fervent geyser]

what does recycle emoji in suggestions means?

[granite geyser]

Already suggested

[fervent geyser]

oh

is it bad that i posted already existing suggestion? should i delete it?

[quartz totem]

Up to you.
I would not mind... repeated suggestions are still suggestions. (there are too many to read everysingle one, despite the search bar, to be acquainted with everything)

[fervent geyser]

the more the marrier i think

[still vapor]

Guys im being chased by 1star fuling berserker (im with black metal sword and wolf armor) what do you guys suggest? + I paused the gane and have 26stamina and hes approx 5meters away

[granite geyser]

Nope

[sick breach]

Rianu you're impossible. Stop typing and start reading.

The point i already made - that you missed - is that there already are best options in the game... yet the game continued to work. So saying you can't add an atgeir cause it would be the new optimal weapon is a bad argument, since you could use it it to say the current optimal weapons shouldn't be in the game.

As for the seemingly impossible task of balancing an atgeir with chain lightning, maybe don't allow chain lightning off secondary attack? Maybe proc it on first enemy hit? Maybe proc once and split the damage amongst all enemies hit? Maybe just dont allow an iolite upgrade? Maybe make the lightning effect different than normal? There's a ton of balancing options you're purposely ignoring.

Oh and "the best choice" is exactly equivalent to "the only logical choice." Get real.

[sick breach]

You can avoid his attacks by walking and maybe rolling, especially if he starts his 3 hit ground pound. Rebuild your stamina, then go back to dodging and stabbing.

Also might want a different channel, this is for discussing suggestions for game design.

[still vapor]

Alr but i play on 14fps so idk about rolling but ill let yall tuned

Im alive

[blissful nest]

I definitely went two handed in Mistlands
it was a lot of fun
I did supplement with some blood magic tho for extra tankiness

I'll do full mage another playthrough

[fossil coral]

To get magic you have to play 100-300 days for 50-100 hours, walk through 5 bioms and reach Mistlands, but you still cant get magic)) You have to clear 4 dungeons and construct a LOT and more a LOT of items for wizard gear. After 100-200 hours you finally get all gear and it does not impress you after all this way. Why not make magic in biome 5? Will it make it worse? No, only better! Game dynamic is very low. You think this is fun? Fun = this is to breaking a rules. Valheim is full linear progress. You always has to little possibilities. Pikes is sill unplayavle. Daggers is useless, etc. This is very simple to undeerstand that you have to rework combat system for much better and different gameplay. You were promise to rework combat system (maybe as Conan), but still you has a lot of problems with mobs on a inclined surface, to limit actions, to little possibilities, etc.

[blissful nest]

#suggestions message
#suggestions message
#suggestions message

I really love the idea of adding more atmosphere to the game.
Having ways to foreshadow the boss of the biome is always a cool thing a game can add.
Rune stones kinda do that, but I feel more can be done with ambient noises or foreboding shapes in the mist.

[sick breach]

Magic is widely conaidered one of the most OP weapons to use. Having to go a long time and through a lot of effort is what makes finally acquiring magic feel like such an achievement. I can agree that the game gets a little repetitive from swamps to plains, could use some new mechanics, but i still think locking magic near the end makes it more... magical.

Not sure if "pike" is referring to spears or atgeir. Either way both have their uses, atgeir in particular is great.

[spiral fog]

when you enter the black forest you are harassed by the amount of types of weapons it offers, player has 3 next biomes to get familiar with all the stuff and then magic is introduced i dont see a problem.
also every weapon in valheim is useful, daggers for starting fights, atgeirs for stunning etc. you can combine them all to make your own battle style and thats absolutely fantastic. combat doesnt need any changes for now

[honest salmon]

"daggers" aka knives are fantastic as they are, my favourite all around weapon next to swords. If you consider them "useless" you clearly haven't figured out how to actually use them, probably you are ignoring the special attack on them.
You seem to have little overall experience with the game, yet you keep asking for sweeping changes. That's not very convincing.
The only actual issue I agree with is melee combat on slopes, which really could do with a fix.

[lofty wave]

Melee combat on slopes doesn’t need fixing because it’s not broken

[stiff stag]

It's definitely broken when all it takes is for a slight incline to make your attacks miss, meanwhile an enemy can hit you fine regardless, like the issue doesn't exist the other way around. This is especially notable with wolves, which are much lower to the ground and live in an area with many varying inclines/slopes, often leading to 1 sided fights when a flat enough area isn't accessible.

[lofty wave]

It doesn’t work like other games, but that doesn’t make it broken. You have to position yourself correctly.

[stiff stag]

Again what was described is why it's broken. A wolf for example can hit you just fine from above or below, but the other way around a player can't hit a wolf in either case. And it only takes a slight incline to cause the issue. And positioning yourself correctly more often than not is not possible in an environment with many such inclines and few flat areas.

[tranquil jay]

I agree, I find it annoying and has room for improvement.

[lofty wave]

#general message

[rose swan]

Ah, good to know! Thanks for sharing

[granite geyser]

From what I know the way it is is intended.

But they didn't account for the fact that it would end up being annoying on the long term

I never read any Dev stating why it was intended.

But I assume they wanted to encourage positioning and luring enemies into terrain that would give you advantage

[vivid ridge]

I think if they added vertical attacking, it could use more stamina to attack upwards

[lofty wave]

Many secondary attacks already have good high/low hitboxes and cost more stamina

If you want to consistently hit an enemy below you use a pickaxe

[fossil coral]

in the Ashlands, a condor kills you in 3 hits if you're wearing a mage's clothes or if there 3 condor - instant death. What mage OP weapons?) You joking? Mage gear has a bunch of staves that don't fit into the slots. There's not enough either even to kill skeleton. You wasted your aether and you have to hit with melee weapons... and you done. This is horribly bad game design. Magic was absolutely useless in Mistland and its even more unplayable in Ashlands. Im disappointed a lot of it.

[lofty wave]

You can use the staff of protection to not die in 3 hits

[fossil coral]

stop typing without thinking. Think a lot what i typed and then think more. No need to give a answer

[sick breach]

Alex, you're the one not thinking. Blob is correct, use the staff of protection and you can tank hits. You will have twice as much health as someone eating 2 highest tier health foods. This in turn frees you up to eat two eitr and one stamina food, since your regular health is irrelevant; just always have a shield up. If you're in full mage gear and you've got melee weapons in your hotslots that's the problem. You're a mage, act like it. Use the frost stave for single enemies, fire stave for multiple. Leave the melee weapons and shields at home.

Mage is the most OP because you can kill enemies at range while running and jumping. Unlike every other fighting style, the resource you use to attack is NOT also the resource you would use to runaway. A mage can fire off a salvo of attacks and still have full stamina for kiting.

Magic is OP. Not weak. You're just bad at problem solving.

[halcyon yoke]

And especially in the ashlands, you just put 2 trolls down and hit things from a distance chilling while not having eitr and they tank everything

[mild river]

#suggestions message I aint readin allat

[granite geyser]

Saying that mage playstyle is weak or needs buffing works as an example that opinions can be wrong

[unique robin]

stop being lazy and allergic to reading

[granite geyser]

It's probably the playstyle that needs the less buffing

[mild river]

:3

[sick breach]

TL DR he struggles with the game's combat and thinks the solution is the game should be remade.

[lofty wave]

None of it is worth reading though

[granite geyser]

In other words, a suggestion devs will certainly ignore

[mild river]

reminds me of skyrim modders lol

[unique robin]

sorry but i think i may have devolped a allergy to paragraphs

in other words i did infact read the first 5 words before stopping myself

aka i saw a wall of text and gave up

[mild river]

I noticed the start of it was just copy pasted from in here, then promtly quit reading lol

[granite geyser]

Something tells me devs just ignore walls of text completely.

[mild river]

i'm being mean tho, sorry

[unique robin]

i would likely do the same, i dislike walls of text

[granite geyser]

It could be the suggestion of all time but the fact that it's like 10k characters long still isn't worth the time

[sick breach]

You guys are weirdly averse to reading for people on a forum. I agree his writing style is difficult but the guy's clearly working in a second language, give him a break.

[stiff stag]

I know the reason they won't allow you to attack up/down is because it could be exploited, which I assume ties into why the issue exists in the first place, because it isn't an easy thing to fix or balance without causing other issues. So it's still broken regardless, it's just not likely to be dealt with given the circumstances (and that's ultimately okay, since valheim is a game about learning and adapting to situations).

[unique robin]

it can be easily rock cheesed

[lofty wave]

It’s not broken. It just doesn’t work like other games.

[sick breach]

You gotta push through the spelling mistakes and bizarre statements to get to the core of the message, which is entitled whining that this game isn't like his favorite games, that all the cool stuff isn't given to you extremely early, that obviously everyone on this extremely popular game agrees it's garbage.

[unique robin]

im averse to read that wall of text, but i do infact read books. jsut not on discord

also his spelling and that was not why i'm not reading it

[wanton atlas]

@neat wolf they do have that green tint

[vivid ridge]

#suggestions message What the hell is even that

I do agree magic could show up slightly earlier than endgame but wowie thats a lot of stuff that is just "i dont like the game"

[wanton atlas]

yes

it's been a 2 year complaint so far

[vivid ridge]

I dont think having it in Meadows /Black Forest / Swamp would be good either

Having it still be a reward to getting to the middle would be good. I think that endgame rewards could continue to be legendary weapons you find from runestones

[rose swan]

Didn’t the speed running champ a few years ago do his speedrun using spears?

[quartz totem]

Maybe a little introduction in the plains is fair enough if so; "copying" shamans (barely cultists are mages, too). Yet I think an overhaul of the whole system would work better (magic and meelee)*

first time i used spears, I never found it back... too bad

[blissful nest]

I'm doing a spear play though and besides the annoying fact it can be overwritten by another item when you need to reclaim a thrown one, it's been aces so far.

[quartz totem]

I found it weird that spears are supposed to be long range but are shorter

[blissful nest]

Like I do wish the game would highlight your spear in a more noticable way when thrown as opposed to dropped
like a vertical white beam of light that extends upwards a meter would help me locate a thrown spear. in the heat of battle.

#suggestions message
Yeah it would be neat if it said an x/y for the materials a build piece required in the build menu

[long glacier]

Spears are good in the context of a speedrun because they cost less resources to craft than other weapon types

[rose swan]

Gotcha, that makes sense 👍

[vivid ridge]

I do use spears. Theyre easy to craft and good for quick damage if you want to kill something fast

[long glacier]

I like the fang spear especially because it’s only 2 silver and is really good at countering wolves

[granite geyser]

@shrewd obsidian seasons have been explicitly rejected by the devs

[shrewd obsidian]

Please stop replying to everyone I don’t care what you have to say so stop wasting your words plz

[long glacier]

He’s telling you his thoughts on your suggestion and why it won’t be added, he’s just trying to help

[karmic flax]

we're discussing suggestions, and he's right that the devs have confirmed they will not be adding seasons as it would needlessly complicate gameplay

[shrewd obsidian]

Ok

[granite geyser]

Not even my thoughts, it's the thoughts of the devs themselves.

And it's literally stated in that msg.

People truly read what they want to read and not what is being actually said...

Such an immature mindset

[grizzled summit]

Imagine having to wait weeks ingame just to optimize your strategy for a boss... oops, winter is gone, wait again 😂

[brisk swan]

preach

[grizzled summit]

I think, we should have a dedicated chat for such matters on this server, we could call it suggestions-discussion or something

[long glacier]

No that would never catch on

[stiff stag]

I prefer the name "suggestion-suggestions", where you make suggestions for other people's suggestions.

[hollow elm]

Suggestception

[lofty wave]

#suggestions message @open isle The current public test version has reduced spawn rates for some ashlands enemies

[open isle]

Thank you , Im looking forward to the new update where I can finally settle down somewhere and trully build a base where I can be safe

[versed fog]

I use them exclusively and the only problem I ever run into with it is occasionally losing it when I throw it too far, but that’s extremely rare once you get the hang of it

Although I believe there is a bug that deletes the spear if you throw it too far out of render distance

[feral void]

Smiffe downvoted my suggestion 😭

[granite geyser]

And?

[feral void]

nothing, that's it

[finite vapor]

he downvotes most of them

[feral void]

so he has less work to do for sure 😏

[stiff stag]

The vast majority of ideas posted are just plain bad, unfitting, overly vague, etc. Voting also isn't purely about liking/disliking ideas. Voting based on the implications an idea would have is also a way to go about it. In that case a downvote is because there is something significantly or inherently wrong with the idea, regardless of whether the voter likes or dislikes the concept in general.

[hollow elm]

#suggestions message Did you know you can type the number you want?

[prime crater]

Wow... my eyes have been opened xD

[hollow elm]

Good! Glad you found a solution. Imagine if you were actually someone who knew that you could press (at most) two keys and separate anything from 1-99 from a full stack of items in storage!! LOL! That'd be crazy! Some person that KNOWS they can select split-size with the number keys and they STILL want buttons for 50/50 (which is the default the moment you hold down <shift>) or set numbers from a stack! Man, we really avoided a 'face-palm' there. Phew!

[feral void]

i feel ya man.. took me 100 hrs into the game to realize that 😆

[prime crater]

I dont think you have any friends IRL

This game has quite a bunch of its controls not mentioned anywhere, idk why you thought you sounded so smart xD

[hollow elm]

Wait... were you serious?

If so, I apologise. I read it as sarcasm.

[prime crater]

really? well in that case i apologise for going off on you, i never knew you could type a number when splitting items

[hollow elm]

Ok then. I'm genuinely glad I could help. 🙂 bro hug Happy hunting, my dude.

[stiff stag]

Certain things can be difficult to distinguish as sarcasm vs a normal honest comment.

[blissful nest]

That's the pure text communication experience bb
Always a chance to misunderstand someone's tone in their responses, as it's very hard to convey that in text characters.

Its why I see people denoting their sarcasm with /s [s] at the end of their non serious statements.

[prime crater]

im guessing the xD also adds a bit of tomfoolery, i used it back when it was just a lol expression

[mild river]

I'd think so too, xD is definitely whimsical

[quartz totem]

I actually like he dislikes than "no reaction". Feels better you know

However I'm pretty sure he brings about some suggestions to the team even if he downvoted it. (it means it called his attention or time)

[mild river]

what's everyone's thoughts on the addition of some way to increase inventory size? something like that mod that add gear slots n such, or like craftable backpacks that maybe add a row in the inventory or something

how it gets implemented would be up to the devs, but I just really think the game would benefit from some more inventory space

[hollow elm]

There's no reason to increase inventory size, but if I had an upgraded cart that I could take through portals I'd be a happy man.

[toxic dawn]

I have 1000 hours in the game and literally never knew that function to specify the split existed, I’m not sure it’s as obvious as you are making it out

Oops late to conversation, should have kept reading it’s been covered lol, my apologies

[hollow elm]

I guess I can understand that, but as soon as I tried to separate a stack and there was a number in a text-bar my first thought was "What if I try and specify a number?".

[toxic dawn]

Well I won’t complain, I learned something new today!

[verbal elbow]

Ooops
I am new here. I forgot to put the 💡 Infront of my suggestion 🤦‍♂️

[blissful nest]

Oh that is how I convey my sarcasm or if I'm joking, or other tonal variations.
that and c: or :x for other examples.
Sure seems juvenile, but I much prefer it over pasting emojis

[wanton atlas]

@verbal elbow one of the reasons why we haven't made Wattle and daub wall pieces is that in our artstyle, it would look rubbish

[wanton atlas]

Don't try to be sarcastic or ironic. people don't pickup on it online and instead thinks you want to start a fight

[blissful nest]

That is sadly true
even if you pull out all the stops to dummy proof your sarcasm, some won't get that. They will read sincerity where there isn't and jab back at you.

Same happens when you someone uses a joke answer and they can't tell you're joking and calls you an idiot.

#suggestions message
I think we just need more fish specific recipes like puffer fish to make catching the others worth while.

[wanton atlas]

we got plans

don't worry 😄

[blissful nest]

You made this fishing viking girl's day

[wanton atlas]

🫡

[verbal elbow]

Hmm really? It wouldn't have to be smooth white. It could have quite a crinkly texture. Add in the protruding woodbeams and I think it could look quite good with your art style

[wanton atlas]

@wispy nova The ingame spiral staircase is just because players cannot make a small one themselves. But wider is player buildable for sure..
Go to youtube and search "valheim spiral staircase"

[wispy nova]

damn I feel stupid now, the design is pretty simple lmao

[wanton atlas]

hehe. not easy to know everything

[wispy nova]

on my defense I never made a stone tower that wide so I didn't need to think about it too much

[stiff stag]

I much prefer making them myself anyway. It's what got me into building and I've learned valuable techniques and information (like wooden doors giving very close to half and quarter spacing).

[spiral sleet]

I think the current size is fine and ways of expanding it might be a bit messy, however I wouldn't mind increasing the stack size for a few items

For example troll hide stacks to 20 even though other hide/monster parts normally stack to 50

Barley flour only stacks to 20 even though it's grinded down from something that stacks to 100

I'm not sure how the space taken up by my barley increased 5 fold after grinding it down but it would be nice if it at least stacked to 50 like many other ingredients used for food so that it doesn't fill up my storage so fast

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message You aren't meant to have access to powerful tools/weapons/etc. like that early game, that's the whole point. You naturally start off with more primitive/less effective tools and the better gear is naturally locked behind progression where it's more appropriate to have it.

[quartz totem]

Sorry, but that is no excuse. First the graphics are fine and second the graphics don't matter. It would be a good addition regardless of how "rubbish" it would look.

[stiff stag]

And the developers have a much different take on the matter, which is that such an addition would be below standards, which there would be no excuse for adding such a thing. They know their own artwork/style/etc. better than anyone to be able to make that determination. It is not your artwork, your style, or your standards they are working with, you don't know all of the ins and outs to tell when something works and when it doesn't.

[mild river]

cant look worse than the smelter, but I digress :p

[finite vapor]

You say that but you let rianu respond sarcastically 20x a day to people in here and it responsible for starting thousands of needless arguments in this channel 😦

[balmy mountain]

I've done a quick search on inventory slots and backpack and seen a few discussion points, but have there been any official comments/posts about adding a backpack?
My issue is having to have 4-6 slots for armour, 3 slots minimum for food, slots for potions, arrows, etc etc etc, leaving me with only 10 or so spots left in my inventory.
I'm more than fine with having a carry weight limit and not needing that to be increased (as we have the belt that does that) but I regularly run out of inventory slots and have to decide in certain moments what is more important and drop the "least important" thing.

[wanton atlas]

we won't

giving you more slots = you will run out of carry capacity quicker

and the decide vaguer is what we want you to actively do

what is more important?
what can I stash away until later?
can I even stash it?
forward operation base with chests and defence?

etc etc

[balmy mountain]

Fair enough. I can understand that. I very rarely run out of capacity (unless carrying ore/stone/wood in bulk) but regularly run out of slots. But if the weighing my options of what's important etc is as intended then it is what it is. I'll just have to start making more bulk carts everywhere 😅

[wanton atlas]

if you had more inventory space. carts wouldn't have any reason to exist 🤔

if you had more inventory space, you would never need to build more bases

[stiff stag]

Overall I still haven't found inventory management to be a problem, especially when you have access to portals. Although I still haven't entered the ashlands yet, so can't comment on what it's like there (from the discussions I've seen it sounds like the amount of available items skyrockets, meaning inventory management is made much more restrictive when the space available isn't made to compensate for that influx).

[wanton atlas]

You see my point then?
Sarcasm turns into arguments

(and he got warned multiple times each time he break rules. we just don't publicly show when people are warned or timed out for longer periods of time)

[balmy mountain]

I disagree. I wanted 1 more row in the inventory and that being given via another item (which I would presumably have to carry, in a backpack). So I would only be obtaining 7 more slots which in now way makes carts obsolete.
Same for extra bases. My main base has somewhere between 50-100 chests, with other bases (accessed by portals) set up with chests in them as well.
What I was suggesting wasn't unlimited spaces like the mod provides, just a way in which we can use some of the materials in the game to give us slightly more slots as we regularly have to carry multiple light weight items that fill our inventory that get us no where near the carry limit.
I personally don't think it changes the dynamic or mechanics of other things like chests or carts in the game at all, but it's not my game so if you don't want to put it in, it is what it is.

[lofty wave]

I eat food out of a chest when I wake up so it doesn't go in my inventory

[finite vapor]

The inventory is out of control in Ashlands, way too much rubbish everywhere

I'm throwing away garbage to free slots up every few seconds

Charred bones useless as ever, skulls, prostite powder, sulfur, any of the meats, then you get regular bones and stone from all the things Morgens break, asksvin bladders which are throwaway trash, it goes on and on

Too many items that are used once then throwaway garbage and it turns into a nightmare trying to find the tiny Morgen sinew like a needle in a haystack

Charcoal resin is another one

Half of this crap is used for catapult shots? But the catapult is terribly designed so are fortresses because you can jump one wall then dig under the next so it's still pointless

I feel like half of the items listed don't need to exist

Then there's a whole bunch of rubbish in the Morgen caves I haven't even mentioned

Mistlands and any biome before it was nowhere this bad on rubbish drops

[stark furnace]

Could a world modifier be used to increase inventory spots or would that not really work

Cause inventory slots are more character based and not world based, IDK

[finite vapor]

The inventory we have now would be fine if ashlands wasn't the way it was

[open dagger]

im sure they could have replaced sulfur inthe recipes with that powder, heck i dont even know in wich recipes there is sulfur

[finite vapor]

We got that, it's a battering ram but it doesn't have the slots to put stuff in

[lone prairie]

Imo simpliest solution would be to add third autoloot option - only pick up items, that allready presented in inventory. So y can auto pickup only needed items and leave all trash on the floor

[spiral sleet]

I do think it would be nice if some of the ashlands materials had more uses

or maybe reduce the drop rate of some things that lack many uses like the bladders

not like many are needed to make the stuff they are used for in the first place

[mild river]

@wanton atlas thank you for the input on the inventory topic

[granite geyser]

"It's our game and we simply don't want it"

"Lame excuse lol don't care just add it because players do want it"

[unique robin]

did you reply to the right guy?

[spiral fog]

bruh

[wanton atlas]

usually people who suggest that are those who restart and get hit by the early grind quite hard 🤔

[spiral sleet]

developers dont have a need to add a feature that players want if it doesnt fit their intended design for the game

[granite geyser]

Yes, it was an example of stranded's point.

People that think just because they're customers they have the right to demand (instead of ask) for something

[granite geyser]

They also don't need to justify every single reason as to why

[sick breach]

#suggestions message For people downvoting having rested buff immediately upon respawn, what is your reason against it?

And before someone pipes up with "they don't have to tell you" that doesn't mean I can't ask.

[visual goblet]

they prob want to avoid scenarions where logging off is used for surviving fights. But I agree, rested and poison, bleeding, etc, should carry over

[lone prairie]

If i correctly understand that suggestion It's about instant rested buff after respawn in bed, not after log in

[sick breach]

Zed is right, this wouldn't grant rested buff on login but rather when waking up in your bed after a death.

[quartz totem]

I think the same, for example. It would make sense if we needed charred bones to build the wooden pieces. Also some items could just be used with multiple purposes. Like the prostite powder, sulfur and charcoal resin could easily be one single item (and serve for many purposes).
And "retrosee" old drops and items like Obsidian. It has zero uses, and could be substitute with another item for the "Tool Shelf" upgrade.

[rose swan]

It seems Ike it would be easy to abuse to me. If you die during a raid, you would essentially respawn with your full rested buff, which could take away from raid. Also, a lot of players don’t necessarily have their respawn point as their max-comfort zone. And lastly, I feel like waiting a few seconds to get your rested buff goes hand in hand with regenerating your health.

Just my opinion! Not a bad suggestion.

[granite geyser]

@scarlet glade

#suggestion-discussion message

[stiff stag]

The "they don't have to tell you" part can also mean "don't expect to get a response", because you're not likely to get an answer from most people. And asking for people's reasoning for voting in general tends to be frowned upon, although the distinction between looking for information vs calling someone out for their vote is often lost or overlooked. In the future you can ask for information in other ways, such as saying "anyone have any insight on why this idea isn't being received well?", or simply by discussing your own thoughts to start a conversation on the topic (which others may then chime in with their own thoughts as well, also potentially leading to an answer).

[scarlet glade]

Ah okay. I didn’t scroll up far enough apparently

For the serverside characters mod, it requires you to create your own character beforehand and then join using that character and the character data itself is stored in the server directory. I’m not saying I want purely server characters, but an option to use a launch parameter in the server launch batch file itself. In my mind it should eliminate the need to create a character beforehand and store the whole created character/data in the server directory. I don’t understand the reasoning behind not wanting to implement something like this. Maybe I’m not understanding something fundamental about how dedicated servers work.

[sick breach]

Maybe im wrong on this, but if there are aggroed enemies nearby aren't you unable to be considered resting? Meaning in the scenario you described you wouldn't have Rested buff since you wouldn't be considered resting.

[sick breach]

Yeah I don't understand why asking why people voted a certain way is considered wrong in the "discuss the suggestions" channel. I guess just not calling specific people out?

I get that no one is under any actual onus to justify their voting. But sometimes it's really unclear to me what people's objections are to certain ideas.

[prime crater]

I mean its just an idea, people disagree with ideas all the time, no need to worry about it : )

[sick breach]

Its not so much "worrying" as wanting to discuss people's takes on suggestions.

[misty nacelle]

A Minecraft server for Valheim players?

[sick breach]

Are you suggesting this should exist? Dedicated servers for Valheim exist.

[misty nacelle]

In Minecraft?

[eternal wyvern]

I’d like some of what you’re smoking.

[rose swan]

I’ve always been open to discussing why I vote one way or another- thats just my own personal code I suppose. I really enjoy having discussions, I feel like it’s a good way to learn and grow.

[blissful nest]

Reminds me of core keeper where you make or find backbacks dropped by powerful foes to equip to give you +5 and up to +20 inventory slots.

Obviously the latter to too much.
heck just +5 would be plenty slots.
The only downside is, when you die on corekeeper you keep your backpack because it's in a special slot.
Valhiem you drop everything on death so that wouldn't work that well. because you would need to pull the backpack from your grave, equip it, then take everything else.

I had the equippable bag idea as well, but implementing it with current mechanics would be difficult and inconvenient.

[wanton atlas]

@scarlet glade unless no one told you. but server locking characters is a bad idea and it won't ever be added

[rose swan]

Ore weighs more than ingots? #suggestions message

[spiral sleet]

Yes but scraps weight less

It makes sense ores would weight more, because your separating the metal from the unwanted materials when you smelt it

But how does the scrap gain additional mass when you smelt it?

[rose swan]

Right, I see what you’re saying now. Thanks for clarifying.

Could increase the weight of scraps maybe? Keep things consistent?

[spiral sleet]

Ya I wouldn't mind that either

though It will probably have a more significant effect on gameplay

But i'd support either way of making things consistent

[stiff stag]

Trying to apply real world logic to a video game is naturally going to lead to issues. Many natural properties have to be dropped or altered to fit the design to make it work. For example the amount of materials put into something wouldn't actually make what you get in return if it were realistic (in a lot of cases the product ends up being more than what was put into it). So that's one potential explanation for the weight increase here. Although we'll never know the actual reasoning unless we hear it from the developers themselves.

[spiral sleet]

Sure, but I think it also depend case by case

[wanton atlas]

if we added the same weight to a weapon, that the ore required to make them... no weapons / armor could be weilded 🤔

[spiral sleet]

I think it depends on whether that realism clashes with the way the game can be played

And I don't see a particular advantage of the way the weight is assigned in this case, other than if it's firmly believed that the currently assigned weight definitely has a better impact on the gameplay here

[rose swan]

Silver sword would be like 1000lbs lol

[spiral sleet]

Obviously realism needs to be excused in a case like that

[wanton atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/deedlit-heavy-sword-super-heavy-sword-too-heavy-too-weak-gif-22742868

[finite vapor]

Yes how it feels making silver sword

[spiral sleet]

I just like to imagine my character is very wasteful with the crafting materials

[balmy mountain]

Agreed. I also saw someone else suggest here having a character page for equipping armour like in Enshrouded. That would free up 4-6 slots for most people.

[spiral sleet]

what if there were a black metal armor set as a secondary armor for plains, but it was extra heavy with exceptionally high armor value

like -8% speed per piece with -3% on helmet

with the next biome being mistlands I could see the high speed penalty feeling less bad, given a lot of the combat is in tight spaces within infested mines, where there isnt much space to run anyways

and even outside, I generally found myself moving around slowly due to the mist, even when I wasnt running a heavy armor set

I feel like it could be an interesting option at least

[pseudo girder]

Hello fellow vikings!! I was wondering if there is anyone could help me transfer my Friends world to my PC?. Thank you for your time

[mild river]

if no one's helped you yet, try #valheim-help

[trail marsh]

Will we ever get crafting from containers without mod? It's such a basic feature

[mild river]

nope

the devs have a strong stance against any type of automation.

[short wing]

Probably not. I also don't find it a basic feature, I've seen more games without it than with it.

[crimson river]

i would love seasons.

[quartz totem]

Seasons would no match the premise of the game. But some environmental "issues" could be added (similar to how raids occur). But nothing permanent.

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message
1.) The terrain system was not designed to support such a thing and would need a major/complete rework to accomplish, a massive undertaking not worth what it would allow for
2.) Building underground would completely nullify air based raids (the only ones that can bypass terrain walls), and you're not meant to be able to completely nullify raids as it would defeat the point

[rose swan]

Is crafting from containers a basic feature? 🤔 I don’t really see much of a need for it in Valheim personally

[blissful nest]

Neither do I
That feature is best for games with an immense number of crafting materials
and even with ashlands, Valheim pales in ammount in materials akin to Terraria.
That feature works best there because of that.

Valheim's materials amount is ideal and easy to categorize

At least for me it is

[late ridge]

paragraph was unneeded, but i understand

[rose swan]

That’s pretty much how I feel about it as well. Like in Terraria, it’s super useful since there are so many materials.

[stiff stag]

Not many ways to shorten a proper explanation/a comment providing information without losing/leaving out necessary info.

[blissful nest]

God so many
over 900 according to the wiki

[rose swan]

Yeah, that sounds about right haha

[stiff stag]

The vast majority of items in terraria are from furniture sets. I am curious exactly how many those account for though.

[blissful nest]

Yeah most are furniture from platforms and walls and building bricks
which kinda don't count in most cases
there are exceptions tho.

Rough guess after looking at the page
about 200 actual crafting materials.

[granite geyser]

You also keep many things in the inventory and are stored directly in them.

Like walls and blocks

Essentially only food is needed at high amounts in valheim

And even still it's a matter on how many you need and what exactly you need.

If you're at mistlands tier and want to explore mistlands than you should only grab mistlands ingredients to cook mistlands food.

[blissful nest]

I will say
I do kind of agree that giving an additional option to the on/off for auto pick-up, where you can only auto pick up things already in the inventory would be a nice third state to that toggle.
How difficult that would be to implement, I am not sure, but it seems way easier than making a manually configurable filtering system.

Edge case here I can see for this solution to the "My inventory runneth over with crap" problem is that you couldn't auto pick up your spear after tossing it because there isn't one already in your inventory.

[hollow tide]

I remember I played the game a long time ago and there was a tree biome full of webs, will that no longer exist? It's a shame, it wouldn't even need to be a biome, but being part of one would be really good, monstrous spider

[stiff stag]

That was the placeholder for the mistlands.

And there will not be any biomes beyond the 9 existing ones.

[blissful nest]

Would make a good sub area in the swamp.
I did like the concept of a spider forest

[hollow tide]

in the mistlands itself it would be, as a sub-area without being just rock as it is currently which I personally found very bad, I may have managed to reserve this spider forest and the current mistlands

[granite geyser]

Won't happen.

And spiders were very explicitly discarded

[rose swan]

One of the reasons was arachnophobia, right? Or am I misremembering?

[quartz totem]

Recently, I was paying attention to some drops and there's some kind of inconsistency amoun similar ones. For example, Molten cores can stack up to 20 while surtling core is up to 10 (it could be also 20).
Also some "smaller" things could stack up to 50. Not realistic saying one could carry 9 packs of 50 units of wood. But some hides/pelts could be 50; Barley is a pack of 100, the flour should be at least 50. Things like taht would help inventory management. Also balancing some max weights of such items.

but i do agree with a "trophie" area where every picked item would have a toggle option on each item.

[granite geyser]

Yes. But due to some agreement with the publisher

[blissful nest]

Oh I wasn't aware of that

[stuck ridge]

@lilac idol i dont think something that completely negates the movement speed decrease should exist. heavy armor is called heavy armor for a reason. if you have something that gets rid of its only flaw then it defeats the purpose of light armor.

maybe something to help slightly decrease could work, but itd have to be properly balanced.

[lilac idol]

I didnt say completely

I said to help negate the speed penalty

I do agree that completely negating it would be too strong

or something that maybe in some way gives a small speed boost

[wanton atlas]

don't run with your weapons out, press R
don't run without rested buff.
don't run into fights, you need the stamina in the fight 😄

[lofty wave]

Don’t anything without rested

[hoary seal]

Such are the mantras of Valheim:
"Always bring stuff for getting rested"
"Don't do anything without rested"
"Don't fight new enemies without bonemass"
"Anytime, everyday, pack poison resistance"

[rose swan]

Don’t even rest without being rested

[spiral fog]

arachnophobia is such a dumb reason to cancel spiders from the games, going with that logic bugs and dangers in the sea should be removed because some may feel uncomfortable with it

i am myself shit scared of ocean, but i know that removing features from games to make me comfortable is not a good idea. also always when im venturing into the ocean adrealine kicks in so i see that as a profit, i dont know if others have something similar with things they fear

[gentle terrace]

Lethal Company solved it by replacing the 3d-model of the spider with the text "SPIDER" 😂

[spiral fog]

yea solution like that also works 😄

or skyrim modders just put bears instead of spiders in the game

[rose swan]

There’s a roguelike I play that features large spiders as a enemy, but in the setting you turn on a filter to change them into giant crabs lol

[granite geyser]

Irrelevant

[spiral fog]

in what way?

just saying my opinion, someone started to type about spiders and old mistlands

[finite vapor]

Just block him you're talking to a classic iron gatekeeper

[granite geyser]

That regardless of whether we agree with it or not, it's an agreement with their publisher. Not even a matter of whether devs themselves want it or not, even if they do, they can't implement them

[stiff stag]

Also ignore henrik's clownery there. Just a troll that can't handle facts and information being presented.

[blissful nest]

Coffee stain said no spiders or something along those lines probably.
that's a hard one to argue with

[finite vapor]

There's the second one

Rianus pup

[unique robin]

you sound like your at the height of maturity with your comments

[spiral fog]

alright 😮‍💨, cant argue with this

[vivid ridge]

that is super cool

[blissful nest]

God satisfactory's arachnophobia mode turns them into JPGs of cute kitty heads

[lofty wave]

All games should do that. I don't mind spiders but always have it turned on in satisfactory

[blissful nest]

It's just so out there of a solution
I love it
tho it can be a bit creepy in it's own special way x3

[spiral fog]

ngl seeing cute things in a cave is more terrifying than a giant spider

[blissful nest]

Rightt
my thoughts exactly

floating fluffy kitten faces in a dark cave

[tulip narwhal]

what does the "recycle" icon mean in the suggestions thread?

[lofty wave]

Someone has already suggested it

[tulip narwhal]

and thats good right? that means the more people suggest it, the more likely devs might include it yeah?

[lofty wave]

No. More people wanting something isn't going to change the developers opinions

[tulip narwhal]

you don't think? that seems odd. 60 people requesting something may make the developers go, oh, hmmm... maybe this is a good idea, vs 1 or 2 people?

whatevs

[stiff stag]

If anything it's just spam and makes them more likely to avoid it. And even if a lot of people want something it isn't grounds for adding it. Many more factors are involved, plenty of which have a much greater impact than people wanting it. You could get hundreds of people that want firearms to be added for example even though it's obviously something that does not belong and never will.

[blissful nest]

Yeah I do find it weird when people suggest things like samurai katanas and the like.

[stiff stag]

@tulip narwhal You're objecting to the facts, guess this discussion is over already

[tulip narwhal]

Well I guess I was thinking more basic things like construction pieces rather than changing game mechanics

[tulip narwhal]

No more over than you objecting to my question

[blissful nest]

If it's related to the what is already in the game, it has a better chance of being considered by the devs
but they do have the final say. the suggestions channel just aims to help give the Devs ideas for new updates.
They know the games direction and which ideas align best with that, has the best chances of making it in, but it is never a gurantee.

[toxic dawn]

The recycle is inherently neutral, merely indicating that it’s been mentioned before. Not bad, not good

[blissful nest]

Yeah pretty much.
it's best to search the suggestion channel before submitting to see if it has been suggested before.
But since you are new here, sometimes you will post a suggestion that looks unthought of, but will still get recycled
Reason for that, is there was a hack that ruined the server and it had to be reset, so all suggestions before that are gone, but legacy members will still remember.

[rose swan]

You can also throw some ideas around in discussion before posting, either to gain insight on some points that have been touched on before, or collaborate and refine an idea before posting it.

[blissful nest]

That is usually what I do

[somber plinth]

@tulip narwhal honestly I'd just try to follow the pinned posts on this board and the suggestions board. People are free to have their opinions about how things should be or what suggestions should contain, but I doubt you'll get much value out of dogmatic takes in either direction. It's a suggestions board; feel free to make your suggestions as long as you're trying to follow the actual rules.

[stiff stag]

@winter flame Ladders like that have been rejected: #suggestion-discussion message

[vivid ridge]

#suggestions message Ive been wondering if the stairs could ever lead somewhere. It would be very awesome

[granite geyser]

@uncut linden

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/World_Modifiers

[long glacier]

I’d imagine it’s difficult to put things up there because placing normal floors up there would probably cause water level issues

[vivid ridge]

oh yeah because the dungeons are literally under the world

[stiff stag]

Nope, they are actually around 5000m up (or whatever the unit of measurement for distance is in the game).

Unless you meant they're supposed to have the illusion that they are underground, and increasing upper levels wouldn't make sense in that case.

[tulip narwhal]

the dungeon "instances" are in the sky?

[stiff stag]

Yep, you can get there using commands (namely flying). Here's an example: #screenshots message

[vivid ridge]

No, i thought they were underground, but them being in the sky makes just as much sense to me lol

Also I think it would make perfect sense for them to have an upper level. Like we dont know how deep the entrance staircase goes necessarily.

[spiral fog]

deep enough to land on the other side i guess

[open dagger]

#suggestions message the natural disaster is already there, it's called "the ground is shaking"

[wanton atlas]

We don't have to many natural desasters up in viking land

Tornados specificly isn't a thing on this side 😄

[granite geyser]

Add them then.

I'm sure literally everyone would love having their bases completely destroyed with absolutely nothing you can do about it.

Literally everyone already loves the easily avoidable troll raid so now we would have NOT avoidable natural and destructive natural disasters

Literal synonym of fun

[spiral fog]

#suggestions message theres an option to set difficulty to lower if you have issues, also if you had any difficulties with ashlands they will be polished

[hollow elm]

#suggestions message Maybe it should be, but it's not. So, let's not do that.

[quartz totem]

@jovial cliff There is a way to do that already. Hover your mouse on the icons and right click on the pin you want to toggle. All those icons on the map will "vanish" until you click on the icon again.

[jovial cliff]

Doesn't right clicking remove it completely?

[quartz totem]

not the icon on the map. Those icons on the right side, where you select them. If you right click, it hides the icons ON the map.

[wanton atlas]

nope. you toggle that pin icon group on and off

[jovial cliff]

I never knew that

Thanks

Is there a way to see the date in which you created the world, or maybe how much you played on it?
Same question for players (time played and date created)

I'm asking before making the suggestion

[wanton atlas]

@lilac idol the Ulvs aren't Fenris.. They are humans who transformed

[lilac idol]

So

[stiff stag]

What it means is that their fur is not fenris hair, thus you naturally can't get fenris hair from killing them.

[rose swan]

Just curious, why should fenris hair be so plentiful? I feel like if it was so easily obtainable, it would detract from the frost caves.

[lilac idol]

You still literally need to go in them for the boss tablet

[stiff stag]

Doesn't change the fact that getting fenris hair other ways would still detract from frost caves, considering fenris hair is one of the primary reasons to go to them. Not to mention stone buildings out in the mountains can also have the vegvisirs.

[lofty wave]

Fenris hair is the primary reason to go, but they don’t have enough. I rarely find more than 10.

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message flat thatch roofing does not exist because it would not function properly as roofing. That's why normal roofing build pieces are angled only.

[hexed jewel]

#suggestions message you can dodge roll out of being hitched to the cart FYI

[granite geyser]

You mean the one that can be also found outside of the caves that are also notably easier?

[lilac idol]

Never seen one outside

Thought they only spawned inside

[quartz totem]

Unless you spend hours searching for Yagluth's vegvisir in a dungeon and discover that there are none... (they don't exist).

[hardy sparrow]

They arent found in dungeons. They are usually found near stonehenge esque buildings which are protected by either a few goblins or 3 berzerkers depending on the size of the stonehenge

[quartz totem]

When I was searching for the dungeons I didn't know that. I thought Plains also had dungeons and it took me many in-game days to find the vegvisir. It was my first time and I played solo.

[sick breach]

That's good to know but I still think the player interaction when harnessed should be enough context for "let go of the cart".

[hexed jewel]

no that's not unreasonable, at least for some action like attack & jump (could make them auto drop it just like dodge roll does now) dunno if i'd want it to drop when I say just switched equipped items or something, I just wanted to share in case you didn't know in case it helped in the meantime until and unless they do implement such a change

[stiff stag]

I actually just recently found out dodge rolling does so and is very useful, especially since I've started using it way more anyway (could have sworn it didn't previously but could just be a foggy memory).

[tepid smelt]

ever since i started playing i always thought adding Villages would be a nice idea there are already abandoned ones so why not ones that still have humans in it. would make the game feel a little less lonely for those who dont play with anyone. maybe can even trade with them for basic items or something

[rose swan]

It’s a nice thought, but I think it’s important to remember that the world of Valheim is supposed to be a desolate abandoned place. The villages and structures we see tell a story and are memories of an old era.

[tepid smelt]

Yea I understand that, what about if its a setting you can enable before starting a new world? Idk, I guess im just desperate for some company haha

[granite geyser]

#1024264966712340510

It is not a city management game and very hopefully never will

You have enough dealing with everything as to add a bunch of useless and very dumb NPCs babysitting to the list

[tepid smelt]

minecraft isnt a city management game and they have villlages. also I didn't think of having to take care of them. it could be something similar to the trader, they live in some bubble or they have high health and fight back

[granite geyser]

They're still different worlds and games

[gentle terrace]

Maybe playing with others that have villages near your village is the solution?

Problem with that is you need to find people to play with that arent morons 😛

[tepid smelt]

Im not sure how to find people since I play on xbox, no servers show when i click on community

[short wing]

#1024264966712340510 Should have you covered.

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message it's not meant to make logical sense, it's done that way for gameplay design purposes, in this case enemies of the same faction not harming/attacking one another (and on top of that they also help one another). It's supposed to make those group fights more challenging, and a troll killing greydwarves would make it the opposite of that.

[short wing]

I would find it a good thing that when you turn on friendly fire that it also counts for enemies, would be logical and the troll is stupid enough to not care about the greydwarfs.
Would it make some fights easier, certainly but would that be a good or bad thing, don't know.

[lofty wave]

I think it should stay in ashlands only to keep its combat more unique

[short wing]

Even in the ashlands it isn't full friendly fire, only a select few attacks damage everything around.

[lofty wave]

I checked which attacks do and don't have friendly fire very early in the testing

[ashen tinsel]

I tend to find them within <10m of a Yagluth altar, make sure you thoroughly check around those if you still need one.

#suggestions message @ember yacht When no players are on a boat they already lock into their current position. You can throw a log at it and it'll only bob up n down (and take damage). If you don't believe me try jumping off a boat at full speed; it'll stop dead in its tracks and lock in position. You can make your dock look however you want and it'll work.

If you mean pull the boat into a specific position, yeah that'd be nice. Wish we could harpoon the boat.

[lofty wave]

#suggestions message @eager breach You can already do a jump attack to preserve momentum while attacking

[eager breach]

no i mean a running attack that has more range to it

[lofty wave]

I don’t see why we need it if you can already do a sprinting jump secondary to get a fast moving attack with a high stagger

[eager breach]

jumping takes extra stamina and you are attacking from above when you would want to be attacking at a level height

[lofty wave]

You can time the attacks so they hit at the right height. Give it a try, jump attacking can be very powerful if used right, and allows you to keep moving normally while dealing high damage.

[eager breach]

and then theres also those situations where you are in a vertically limited areas like dungeons

[blissful nest]

Sadly Valheim doesn't have extraneous movesets for weapons. No true jump attacks or rolling attacks or running attacks. Just the primary and secondary and the movement you can do before and during attack animations
And that allows for pseudo momemntum carrying air attacks.

[sick breach]

Knife secondary exists...?

[unique robin]

yes its a jumping atack, perfect for killing trolls in a sneak atack can do upwards of 300 damage

[lofty wave]

It won't keep your momentum like attacking in the air does. It's not actually a jump attack, that's just the animation.

[wanton atlas]

@jovial cliff the time spent in world already exist 🙂
but we only have 2 programmers, so you have to be patient until we add it more visuably

@dim frost there is a double metal door in ashlands

[open dagger]

#suggestions message It works fine, if there is a bug then specify.

[lofty wave]

@celest hinge what is broken?

[celest hinge]

The boss is just spamming his attacks to quick. Me and my friend tried to defeat it but we couldnt hit him because hes attacking us to quick and had the best possible gear.

[lofty wave]

If you have barley wine you should be able to stay inside the aoe attack for a while.

[celest hinge]

Yea we had it but than we tried to attack him he was using one attack and after 0.5sec he just use other attack. Hes just using his attacks to quick you cant do enything than theres two attacks at the same time

[lofty wave]

You need to try dodging the attacks while staying as close to him as you can. If you’re taking too long to run back you wont have time to damage him. Instead of running away from the meteors, walking backwards while blocking is usually good enough.

[sick breach]

Yeah, or sheltering under the finger rocks. Then you can get hits in. It also helps that you pay attention to which person is being chased by meteors; the other should be attacking.

[long glacier]

I try to keep yag underneath the pillars so I’m safe from meteors and can hide from the fire beam

[lofty wave]

Don’t hide from the fire beam, he’s very vulnerable to attacks while using it

[stiff stag]

A few of the boss fights seem very difficult at first when you don't know the right strategies and tactics to use. If you're having trouble it means you still have plenty to learn.

[long skiff]

💡 What I would love to see in Valheim is upgradeable armor types.

For instance the Troll Stealth Bonus, or the Fenris movespeed bonus armor could be upgraded and made stronger, so they could remain viable in later biomes.

Then starting in Bronze age there is just Heavy Armor that becomes stronger with stronger metals / materials as you progress. But all the others can also be upgraded to become light armors with different buffs. And each biome gives you a new option of which light armor buff to choose from.

[spiral fog]

not the channel but i can tell you that troll armour being a thing in mountains/plains would anihilate need of heavy stuff

[unique robin]

i gotta dissagree with that

[sick breach]

It's useful for dungeons and other limited space environments

[raven ginkgo]

If a pet of mine dies, I would like the name to appear next to the remains of the deceased pet. So you can see where your poor pet wolf perished and pay your respects.

[lofty wave]

#suggestions message What Valheim meal would you eat first?

[rose swan]

I’ve said this before, but I’ve really perfected homemade Queens Jam, happy to throw it in a cookbook lol

[rose swan]

Oh, honey glazed chicken without a doubt

[unique robin]

#suggestions message if im reading this right its 5 suggestions in 1, please dont do that, keep it to 1 per post @golden orbit

[golden orbit]

Please have my apologies, this is my first post. Lesson learnt...

[rose swan]

No worries, just makes it’s easier to read as well as easier to vote

[unique robin]

dont take it the wrong way
also with multiple in a post you cant actually vote for one and neither does anyone know whats being voted for or against

[somber plinth]

I did it my first time too lol. Would recommend just posting the suggestions from your current post individually (I do think 5 minutes per post is a bit overly slow), that way people can give their opinion individually

[wanton atlas]

@golden orbit
All of those mounts ideas are impossible to add or to balance

[quartz totem]

I would not mind his suggestions 2 and 3. But please, fix Askvin controlling over our commands to simply walk. The other day, mine went after a mob while I was riding it and I had to dismount, and lose it and its saddle.

[wanton atlas]

@slate fossil a reminder not to reply to other or highjack others suggestions

[slate fossil]

thx for the subtle heads up. understood

[wanton atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-sticker-thanks-sticker-line-sticker-cat-sticker-orange-cat-gif-26476683

[feral void]

huh

[hollow elm]

#suggestions message Who wants 64/67° roof pieces? Where does that assertion come from? (Edit: Also, removing snap points removes the only legitimate way (i.e. not modded) way to get many pieces to sit where you want them to).

#suggestions message It's a pretty simple work-around to use roof pieces at present, which actually have the advantage of not suffering from weather wear.

[open dagger]

#suggestions message still no flying mounts

[feral void]

that would be too op my guy

[open dagger]

and asksvin are already good for traversing ashlands,no flying mount needed

[quartz totem]

I Meant "maintaining" (wrong wording) the snap points on Q and E, while, with the roof pieces only, pressing ctrl+ Q or E would toggle to their available angles. And I think many builders (myself included) mentions the 67º (or 64º idk) in the #building-discussion and #building-ideas .

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message bestiary would also be a solution to showing how many times you've killed a given enemy, since the trophy screen wouldn't be ideal for it.

[hollow elm]

Maintaining snap points is pretty valid, I like that - particularly when we have to swap between support beams and roof pieces.
But 6x° roof pieces?! We can't even stand on 45° pieces. Are you expecting snow? What's the point?

[stark furnace]

What's the point? more building options and more creativity

[unique robin]

#suggestions message this would be pretty nice

[quartz totem]

Aesthetic in most cases, but I think it is better to do that with mods anyway. xD My idea would "replace" the beams and poles and angled beams into a single building piece (not only for roofs now that you said); They are basically the same thing (despite some angled differences like 45º being longer). So a single piece with that snap point would save a lot of slots from the building menu as well

It would be so much better pressing a key and my pole becoming a beam and then a 26º and then a 45º and then (if not added a 67º) back to being a pole, rather than opening the menu (or pressing shift+mouse).

[hollow elm]

You must like narrow buildings. (Edit: Also, all of the durability factors are height-based. So as soon as you increase the roof angle, you make all buildings smaller when using it.

[stark furnace]

I like more ways to express myself in the pretty cool build/design process, that's all

A combination of 26, 45, and 67 or something like that could make a really neat sloped roof for a tower etc, but this is a pretty ♻️ 'd topic tbh

[hollow elm]

#suggestions message I like it. Maybe we get the option to add 'sign' items to the ship hulls?

[hollow elm]

#suggestions message I mean, levelling crossbow skill is ridiculously tedious. But, I would suggest we solve that by balancing shots/second against melee weapons, not by introducing skill bonuses.

[stiff stag]

The main issue is that the full root set is obtained well before crossbows are accessible, and by the time they are, it would be impractical to use the full root set anyway over much more viable sets or mixed and matched sets.

@jovial cliff the bonemaw meat is what they were already referring to.

[jovial cliff]

oh lol

my bad

[vivid ridge]

it would keep it useful for the whole game, people already do well with lower armor builds as it is. I think for those more skilled players it could be used as an advantage

[jovial cliff]

@slate fossil Would be nice to make a little gate for the animal/crop farms with them

[slate fossil]

yea exactly, or for neat builds like bridges. many uses.

[long glacier]

#suggestions message yes as long as they’re disableable in settings

[granite geyser]

@karmic sage

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Portal_stone

[karmic sage]

Yes i know and on my opinion it's ruin all. U just freely can transport everything. Who likes that - already uses easy setting for portals. I would like more serious attitude toward the portals in vikings survival world.

[karmic sage]

To be honest 50% of Ashland looks like quickie 🤷‍♂️. But it's only early access and all could be changed

[wanton atlas]

@karmic sage / @gentle terrace I removed his "suggestion"

[granite geyser]

Highly doubt it will

[granite geyser]

I know but it's already added and they'll certainly not gonna remove it anymore.

And new portals or changes to them at this point are just unlikely

[wanton atlas]

the OG teleporter was a "mobile" one where you threw a greydwarf eye into a fire

it wasn't very practical and so

and also. nowdays when players have 100's of teleporters, linking them would be impossible

[karmic sage]

Yes . I have same terrible situation. Tp almost on each island and they are still there, mobs didnt destroy them. Spammed all world by the teleports. Feel lack of responsibility for tp. Maybe somebody suggests another solution, instead current trash mode or stone portal which works like easy setting

[stiff stag]

I see absolutely nothing wrong with portals as they are now. Quite literally just a way to cut down on massive needless extra travel time (namely over areas you would otherwise end up travelling by dozens of times). And stone portals being accessible so late in the game is why they are balanced and a good reward to have for all of the trouble up until that point. The proposed suggestion would just ruin the whole portal system, and most of it looks like nonsensical additions/changes, adding a bunch of random new stuff and way overcomplicating things. There also isn't any need for a "solution" to something that isn't broken in the first place.

[wanton atlas]

@jovial cliff but how would the game sort things?

[jovial cliff]

Perhaps in alphabetical order

just a quick way to sort items in chests or in your inventory that are all over the place

[open dagger]

maybe by biome then it wouldn't make it super easy

[granite geyser]

Would've been better if first portals were locked behind moder...

She's the only mandatory boss anyway so might as well give more encouragement to kill her (using the tears to build portals)

[karmic sage]

not ruin. 1st - harder no earlygame but spends less slot in inventory and usefull in midgame, 2nd tp - same on mid game but harder recipe then makes more responsibility i guess. and 3rd type - good on endgame because u can tp metalls, ships, pets but have to pay for that.
But okay i see already results

[stiff stag]

Early game portals are a convenience to cut out tons of needless tedium (again cutting out having to travel across the same old areas you've already explored dozens of times over). If they were only accessible later in the game it would only serve as a massive time waster. And metals not being allowed through them is already a solid way to keep them from being an issue (since you have to manually travel back in those cases, often with multiple trips).

[karmic sage]

nope again. attentively please. portals accessible from early game. and as for me early its maximum bronze age. its hard to travel same old areas many times there.

so after hardwork in the end game you and many other voters think its okay just take "easy portal mod"

[stiff stag]

At the end game, the main purpose of all previous metals has already been fulfilled, meaning it's no longer unbalanced/broken to take them through portals (for instance you're not going to need to make bronze weapons, armor, etc. at that point and it only serves as a building material, so why should it not be allowed through portals so late in the game for convenience?). Personally I would have preferred it to work in stages (defeat the elder and you can take copper, tin, and bronze through. Defeat bonemass and you can transport iron, and so on), but what we got is fine as well (since various metals have a lot of uses in mistlands, it's fair that that ability becomes available after that rather than before).

[sick breach]

Dude before hitting send on your reply read it first. Just once, even. Don't hit send until you're sure every sentence actually communicates something. Bonus points if you can address what others like Stranded have said.

"Portals accessible from early game." Is this supposed to be inherently bad? Others have said it's fine as it only reduces tedius backtracking, so you need to explain what makes the earlyness of portals bad here.

"It's hard to travel same old areas many times there." What is this supposed to be arguing?

"So after hardworking in the endgame you and many other voters think it's okay just take 'easy portal mod'" If you think it's not OK you need to explain why. We have no reason to change our minds here.

[lofty field]

I would have really liked this (portaling biome metals after the boss was defeated)

[lofty field]

Adjacent to the subject of stone portals, what do you think about fader's power? Isn't it kind of useless after the introduction of stone portals?
I was hauling a literal boat load of silver from my longboat to the base yesterday, requiring many trips. Fader's power would have been nice then, but by the time I get it, I won't need it anymore. (unless it becomes essential in DN somehow)

[wanton atlas]

@echo oyster that's not a suggestion thing. and probably not FSR into valheim no

[honest forge]

valheim is relatively low resolution already, I don't think fsr would accomplish much?
the only improvement for potato pcs would probably be particle and lighting optimization

[wanton atlas]

having more FPS doesn't help you at all in valheim

having more Cores and faster RAM helps you tho

[honest forge]

thats not entirely accurate

[wanton atlas]

I mean to a certain degree

[honest forge]

going from 10 fps to 40 would make a massive difference

not that fsr would do this

[wanton atlas]

we do hardcode a bunch of things to cores / threads

since windows would mess things up 😄

[karmic sage]

dude u absolute right about "sure every sentence......" all what i can answer again. please read attentively. and from the begining from suggestion about we disscussing, not from answer on answer on answer. not from the middle of sentence

I try to explain alll idea and i hope u will satisfied

current situation:
early game. from the 2-3 crypts player can make a portal. Its cool but not so important in early stages because all main activity is in maximum 200m range. And most important and interesting part is an exploring. All what you need is a fast tp for sleeping, or unloading your pockets and back. Sometimes you can forgot to destroy your previous tp and that most annoying then long travel. Link is used, portal on other island, wind in bad direcrion. Thats why i guess temporary tp with cheaper recipe and which spend 1 slot instead 3 - is better.

Mid game. After few more crypts and because very cheap recipe player already can make 10-20-30-unlimit portals. Portal to blueberry, portal to strawberry, etc. zero responsibility. even mobs doesnt destroy them. Players destroys and bring their ships on mountain through the tp. etc etc. And this is looks like a trash. Just ruin all traveling. Thats why i guess a regular portal should have at leaast harder recipe. Using only for an important spots (checkpoints etc), not on each bush and ore vein. Or maybe creatures should be more aggresive for portals?

End game. now its an only "easy mod" with no cost for action. U cannot tp your pets, still have to link 2 only 2 portals. Thats why i think that really cool and usefull feature is a teleport with pets. as a Bifrǫst. And tp without link just spell, YELL in tp triggerBox a name of destination
And for tp metals some payments. for more responsible.

Nobody says that tp in earlygame should be removed. please read attentively

[karmic sage]

i tried to play with fsr in x4 foundation. low resolution - looks better and for gpu easier

[blissful nest]

Being able to teleport mounts and pets would be cool true. Transporting them in a less janky way would be more desired personally.

Also sure you can make a lot of portals to every little thing in midgame, but you don't need to, but it is an option a player can choose.
A player can also choose to be very sparing with their use as well.
Ultimately it's their choice that the game allows.

I feel imposing too strict restrictions would make that level of tedium detract from playing for some.
But if the player wants to set that restriction on them self then they have the freedom to.
they can also disable portals entirely via world modifiers if they so wish.

But the game allows portals at that stage.
And I think that's a good stage to introduce the player to them.
It hits them with the knowledge that "Yo this world is massive and you might need these for your own sanity."

That is my thoughts on the matter.

For instance, I like to be sparing with my portals, treating my world like a classic Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest overworld map where there are like 1-3 portals on a continent depending on it's size.
Instead of a hub, I use a "stargate" where I dial in it's map tag and link it up to a nicely made portal station.

Make it's feel more mystical and special if they aren't all over the place and have like podiums or arches or a temple.

That's how I use them when I play.

[rose swan]

I have a similar playstyle, and I agree with your take. Good stuff.

[echo oyster]

Ah ok, i see, i am still relativelly new to the server so i have to figure out how things work here, its just that i am a content creator, not gonna say where or what channel since i do not know if that is allowed here, but anyway, i asked if its possible for Valheim to have Fsr simply because the game seam to stress my setup quite badly, not like any other game i streamed so far, i even had two casses of my Pc completelly shuting down on its own to evade overheat, i just thought that maybe implementing Fsr would help out content creators not runing the latest and greatest hardware, but ok, you gave me a clear answer and i will respect that

[stiff stag]

I generally use 1 for when I'm out exploring, and others are permanent (like one to world spawn for hanging boss trophies/switching out powers), one at each boss altar in case I want to fight any of them again, etc. Any time I end up with more than one temporary exploration portal it gets to be difficult to manage, so I avoid it as much as possible. Fortunately I have the choice and ability to establish permanent portals early game, so I don't have to backtrack later.

[wanton atlas]

Well. Some rules..
You can always ping me since I am a community manager. Never ever ping any other developer.

You can post your Valheim related content in #self-promotion

[echo oyster]

Alright, got it, thx Smiffe

[split yarrow]

How do you post a suggestion I do !suggest before hand and it doesn't work?

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message

[quartz totem]

@willow swift Also, that they change the "Corpse run" to "Adrenaline rush" or something. Idk, it may fits better.

[willow swift]

yeah, but I'm more concerned about using the same icon. It seems like a bit of a hack job

[quartz totem]

I do understand it. xD I mean, (if) they are going to change the icon, why not the string? xD

[stiff stag]

It would lose its charm if it was renamed to something more generic. Not to mention the icon would no longer match the name. Also, they are referring to changing the icon for wind run, not corpse run (since the icon for corpse run perfectly fits the name).

[quartz totem]

I mean, "(to) run" conveys more like a long action whereas the buff last 30 seconds, so "rush" would fit better, ain't it?
About the icon, Yeah wind run is the icon to change.

Anyway, just lexicality*....

[molten anvil]

Will Valheim one day have an AntiCheat? The only mod that does this (AzuAntiCheat) is no longer blocking the Cheat Engine, playing on servers has become hell...

[stiff stag]

That's just to be expected when playing with random strangers or opening a server to the public, not something the developers need to be concerned with. Play with people you know and trust and it greatly reduces those issues.

[split yarrow]

I had to purposely resend an idea someone made cause they made it super op and I didn't like it that way 😅

[quartz totem]

They are just concepts, don't worry. xD And it would be thought through if implemented ^^

[sick breach]

#suggestions message There is already an obliterator, which is unlocked at the swamp stage.

[karmic sage]

Thank u so much. I understood a one important thing. Nobody read full long msg here 👍😻

[stiff stag]

We read your post, the broken English just made it impossible to understand a lot of it (the communication errors are on your end, not ours, and the lack of self awareness is blinding you to that fact), and the overall ideas were just odd/bad/unfitting. Not being able to set up permanent portals early game causes the same issue of backtracking (something that only serves to add needless tedium and time wasting) as if there were no portals early game in general (a distinction you missed/didn't understand). And the new portal you proposed is a very poor execution of the idea and doesn't fit well in the game at all (requires a lot of extra nonsense and overcomplicates what's meant to be a simple convenience feature).

[lofty wave]

We already have freeze glands that are used in food

[candid portal]

But the more fps you have the better game experience (45 is the minimum for normal gameplay). I have 4060 and i5-12400f, CPU has just ~20% load, whereas GPU is always 80-100% at native 1920x1080 / 2880x1650(?) with 80% scale. So wouldn't dlss greatly increase everyone's fps if it reduces GPU load?

[wanton atlas]

not really when the game does alot of other things 😄

like for example. Counterstrike only move around things

it doesn't have to calculate load bearing on your house

[granite geyser]

No

[wanton atlas]

@split yarrow Valheim isn't ment to bloat so people who played 1000's of hour will have something new all the time

valheim is ment to be played from start to finish

[granite geyser]

@lofty wave you're assuming serpent shield is very easily obtainable...

[lofty wave]

It is though

[granite geyser]

You can spend dozens or even hundreds of hours without ever encountering a serpent, even less killing it.

Even much less killing enough as to craft and upgrade the shield

[unique robin]

really? i litterally see one everytime i go sailing and then mark their spawn locations to avoid them only to enounter one on the detour

[lofty wave]

They don't have spawn locations. They spawn randomly

[unique robin]

That doesn't stop me from marking where I encountered them

[granite geyser]

In +150 hours I have only encountered a single serpent.

Crafting that shield depends on RNG, making a much more easily craftable shield better or equal would make it less rewarding. And it still has pierce resistance anyway, so even if buffing the iron shield it would still be better so that wouldn't accomplish much

[lofty wave]

That's why I only asked for the block force to increase. It's not supposed to be better in most situations, but there needs to be something it's useful for.

I'd expect a heavier shield to be better at knocking enemies away

[eternal wyvern]

#suggestions message why not?

[granite geyser]

I did think it referred to block armor and not force instead...

But either way, having high block force isn't necessarily a good thing so the iron tower shield having increased force would be less useful. Pushing enemies away due to blocking makes counter attacking harder

[delicate mauve]

I'm afraid that's skilltravel issue. Sail more.

[split yarrow]

Exactly and it feels that updates focus on people that have 100% the game and adds new end game biomes hence my suggestipn

[dark wyvern]

Valheim is in early access, focus is not on the people that have finished all current biomes but on finishing the game. To me it's quite logical that they are going to finish the new biomes first.

[unique robin]

its not foxued on people that have completed it, its focused on finishing the game
its not favoring one kind or another its focus is to finish the game

[split yarrow]

Yes and again it's focused on story progression/new content not it's base if these updates are what finishes the game no offense the end game will be unreplayable

[wanton atlas]

but that is the point. we are working towards 1.0 while fixing bugs alont the way

[split yarrow]

Idk I haven't played in 2 years it just feels like the start is the exact same and nothing has changed it could just be me

[wanton atlas]

things have changed. but what you're asking is for is bloat

and just adding more things will make the game just bloated with things that only exist for the reason to add more bloat

[split yarrow]

I'm asking for use in early game content the necks for example have no use except a food source

[wanton atlas]

won't happen

it's what it is for a reason

the new people who will join after 1.0 will have a nice descent game to play. without having to do 1000+ hours just to finish the game

but if you haven't played for 2 years. we added hildirs request. so that's new for you

[split yarrow]

That's kinda my point the stuff I've suggested would help you easier get to end of game imo

[wanton atlas]

so take your wasp nest idea for example

it would just another thing

it doesn't add to the game progression, it gives alternative ways to do things

[split yarrow]

A way to get fine wood before axe progression

[wanton atlas]

it's just another bloat thing in the game

[short wing]

The game is easy enough as is, no need to make it easier.

[wanton atlas]

but we don't want that 😄

[split yarrow]

I had 212hrs in when I last played and I couldn't get past the swamp stage 😅 on easy

[granite geyser]

And...?

[split yarrow]

Did you read that they don't want it to take 1000hrs to finish the game?

[granite geyser]

You mean trolls?

[granite geyser]

The amount of time spent on the game depends 90% on the player, not the game.

[split yarrow]

Do people beat trolls before axe progression I beat trolls after bronze tools

[granite geyser]

People can decide to complete the game in 100 hours or in 10k

[wanton atlas]

breaking chairs and barrels outside of stone houses in black forrest also drops finewood

or some old chairs in certain locations in black forrest

[granite geyser]

Trolls are not locked behind anything, you can find them 10 minutes after starting the game if you want.

And then luring them into breaking things. The option is already there since day 1

[split yarrow]

Yes but what's the common amount of time for people just trying to complete it like me?

[wanton atlas]

most people get to yagluth within 40-60 hours

[granite geyser]

100-200? I don't know, it's not really a relevant point.

If you want to complete it then do it, them move on to another game or continue playing. It's up to you

[wanton atlas]

then mistlands and ashlands add about 10-20 hours per biome

[granite geyser]

Live service games are a mistake

[short wing]

Pushing other trees into finewood trees breaks them and voila finewood in the meadows.

[split yarrow]

???? How it spent me 30+hrs to just finish one dungeon

[wanton atlas]

yes but that's not a intended feature 😄

[split yarrow]

Maybe people play this game in multiplayer 🤔

[lofty wave]

It takes longer in multiplayer because you need more materials for everyone

[split yarrow]

The best way currently shhh

[split yarrow]

Really? What do they buff enemies?

[wanton atlas]

yes/no. depends on the game 😄

[short wing]

As in crypt from the swamps? I finish them in 10-30 minutes and that depends on how big the dungeon is and how many iron there is to mine.

[short wing]

Exactly.

[lofty wave]

The enemies get a bit more health but it's slower because multiple players need more materials than one player for equipment

[split yarrow]

I died like 7 times in them before finishing

[granite geyser]

It's because it created the mindset of people thinking devs should dedicate their entire lives to developing a game so it "stays relevant".

Despite the game itself being completely irrelevant whether it has an active player base or not

[short wing]

One of the reasons why I always have a portal at the entrance but after a first playtrough till end of mistlands that took 150 hours or so, I learned quite a lot and almost never die in the swamp now.

[split yarrow]

See I came from pc to xbox and I had like 4 main mods on pc so I'm trying to get used to it.

1.plant anything
2.first person
3.Un restricted portals
4.clock

[lofty wave]

Unrestricted portals exist now (Stone portals made with ashlands materials), and you can change a world modifier to allow wood portals to teleport all items.

[short wing]

Unrestricted portals is a world setting now.

[split yarrow]

This was 2 years ago?

[short wing]

Nope, last big update.

[split yarrow]

Thank you I just changed it found the world setting

Personally I wish valheim could do an internal game modding community (Similar to skyrim/fallout/minecraft) but I know alot of consoles are against that so probably not possible

[lofty wave]

If you want to find the time, point the camera towards your shadow and use the arrow on the map that shows your rotation (not the wind arrow). If it's facing west, it's the morning. If it's facing north, it's midday and if it's facing east, it's dusk.

[short wing]

Or build a sundial.

[quartz totem]

I do agree we need some rebalancing/retro-adaptability regarding previous biomes, however that's work for after 1.0. I bet they are taking notes on those urgent fixes yet, I don't see reason to halt their intended progress to see "backwards". Give it time.

[wanton atlas]

any kind of re-balance would be amongst the last thing we did before 1.0 release

no point in re-balancing now, and then do another one, and another one

tweaking ashlands, yes, but older biomes? no

[quartz totem]

Yeah, I see that. and it could even be after 1.0. after a month of sweet deserved vacations.

ps: the game does not feel like early access (despite a biome left). xD

[karmic sage]

Just go in ocean in storm. On 100 day in game already had 4 spots. They are not despawn

[split yarrow]

Out of curiosity since I haven't gotten to late game is their a way to increase food buff limit from 3 to 4?

[open dagger]

there's a lot of stuff you can waste time in, but that's good since it makes your playthrough even more unique

[short wing]

Nope, 3 foods is max.
Also one mead from the same family each time.

[split yarrow]

Alright was just curious about later game areas ima assume the food buffs and armor make up for it

[unique robin]

later game foods are better than your early game foods naturally

[short wing]

Yeah, each biome has better food than the previous one and has better armor and weapons.
Finding the right balance for your playstyle is another thing though.

[split yarrow]

Valheim is based on Norse mythology correct?

[rose swan]

I would say ‘inspired by’ is more accurate

[karmic sage]

in my opinion you make too much aggressive noise and have no patience. All your answers seem to be on 1-2 sentences from the message, ignoring everything else. Hence the misunderstanding and misinterpretation. The gameplay you described would not have changed and got some benefits, but unfortunately it did not get through. even after several attempts to explain. good luck. Will write briefly for u

[split yarrow]

Is their any lore in why the player was cast into valheim what'd he do wrong? Cause from what I know valheim is thr place Odin cast his enemies.

[short wing]

According to the lore, it was once connected to the World-Tree along with the other Nine Worlds in Norse mythology and was considered the tenth in that order. At some point, Odin severed the boughs of the World-Tree that led to Valheim after he cast down his foes to this world and designated it as a prison for them.

What toomuchdogg said is true loosely based on.

Too prove your worth to the gods.

[rose swan]

Good question! I’ve always wondered if the player teetered on being worthy or not, so Valheim is a sort of purgatory where the player proves themself to Odin

[split yarrow]

But that implies he lived a unsuccessful life beforehand as the lore goes Odin cast his enemies into exile onto valheim meaning the playable character did something horrible

[rose swan]

I don’t know if the world is exclusively a world for Odins enemies, right?

[analog moss]

There's definitely some creative licence going on as relates to traditional Norse mythology.

[open dagger]

maybe he didn't die during the battle and make it into valhalla, but died after the battle and has to prove worthy to get to valhalla

[split yarrow]

Is valheim a actual north mythology or is it added onto norse mythology?

[rose swan]

Valheim is not real

[analog moss]

I think it's losely based on Norse mythology.

[split yarrow]

Fleeing a battle is highly frowned apon maybe that happened

[open dagger]

probably

[short wing]

In the start of the game something is said that Odin heard about his enemies were growing once again in strenght, he looked to midgard and sent his valkyries to scour the battlefields for the greatest of their warriors. Dead to the world they would be born again in Valheim.

[analog moss]

In the Norse culture, warriors who die on the battlefield are transported to Valhalla by the valkryies. there's no purgatory or 'prove your worth' middle ground.

[split yarrow]

Oh so we the cleanup crew 🤣

[analog moss]

@short wing exactly. Its kind of based on Norse mythology, but we needed a reason to be here.

The other thing to think about is that in Norse culture, battle and fighting against enemies isn't a punishment, so for the fallen fighters who are brought here, it's just more fun.

[short wing]

Kind of. We are the greatest warriors from Midgard to best Odin's Foes because he can't do it himself.

[analog moss]

or because he's busy ruling the other nine realms.

He's sending us here because it's more fun.

[split yarrow]

Isn't frenrir odins greatest enemy it's said in mythology frinrir will kill odin

[short wing]

It is cut off from the world tree so might not be able to really reach, it.
He can't be too busy though, with al the spying he's doing on us.

[analog moss]

True, I guess.

[analog moss]

Maybe Fenrir will be Deep North boss.

[split yarrow]

It'd be cool as a final boss it'd make alot of sense to but since it's loosely based on mythology I won't bet on it

[open dagger]

i don't think they will take a actual person/creature from norse mythology as a boss, as seen with them not taking surtur

[analog moss]

you're both probably right. It's not likely

[split yarrow]

They did add Odin tho even I'd he's just watching....menacingly

[analog moss]

and Thor.

[split yarrow]

Theirs a thor????!

[open dagger]

after you kill moder he can fly across the sky on thunderstorms

[split yarrow]

That's cool I love easter eggs

[gentle terrace]

Wow. TIL

[analog moss]

I've only seen Thor once.

[open dagger]

they will always make a own boss because thats more original and it can be more of a suprise

but i find it unnessecary to make the ashlands boss not even be shown on his stone and his real name never spoken, could be for worldbuilding reasons though

[split yarrow]

A loki easter egg would be cool loki likes disgusing himself as others so seeing a random animal shapshifting could be loki I think that'd be cool

[lofty wave]

I hope the deep north's boss is smaller than the other bosses because they're all so big, we haven't had a small boss yet.

[open dagger]

there is some talk about the frozen child from that one dream in the ashlands, i suspect it could be a reference to loki since he's a jotunn

[gray root]

Most likely that, also if we're talking north it's quite likely we will meet giants, and bears. No clue if either could be a boss...

[open dagger]

in the end we do not know, we will see when the concept art rolls around

[gray root]

Wt if loki was the one guiding us All along and instead of saving yggdrasil by killing the fallen we are instead making things worse?

[split yarrow]

And the odin/thor we see is loki in disguse?

[open dagger]

could be true but riding on a cart pulled by deer across the sky and shooting lightning seems hard to fake

[sick breach]

I feel like we're pretty overtly the bad guys here. Odin took his enemies (not necessarily evil), trapped them in a dimension to die. They didn't and instead thrived, and even though they still can't escape and thus pose a threat to Odin he isn't standing for it. Instead he's taking his dead believers who earned Valhalla and instead tasking them with killing his enemies, incidentally trapping them in the same hellish place.

Explains some of the things the Forsworn say after you kill them, like Eikthyr insisting the wild will never bow to Odin.

[open dagger]

#suggestions message yes, more food to cook and a reward for exploring, only thing i wouldn't do is have only 3 of 6 unlockable per world

[eternal wyvern]

One of the runestones from Black Forest states that there were seven forsaken banished to the realm, and we have seven bosses right now. It would be cool if the final boss was a creature born into the cold hell that is The Deep North and has risen to immense power. Tying it up into the lore of the winter child from Ashlands and the dream would also be really neat.

[quartz totem]

I mean, it could be both. It's just a suggestion and as u said a reward for exploring. xD

[open dagger]

that would be cool

[open dagger]

i extremly love farming plants and food in this game, hope if gets some neat additions ahem... flametalcultivatorasseeninmysuggestionplease

[granite geyser]

It's what I wanted for ashlands boss..

Instead we got a ||fire-breathing dragon... In a fire biome...||

So original

[granite geyser]

Why giants?

[vivid ridge]

#suggestions message There is a reason to craft the iron tower shield. Its easier to get the materials for

[hardy sparrow]

The greatest warriors of Midgard are dropped naked into a forest and Odin says, "Go collect raspberries and kill deer."

[long glacier]

Name one great warrior who didn’t have that happen to them at least once

[stiff stag]

That one warrior that was a vegan and was allergic to raspberries.

[long glacier]

That one’s doing a no food challenge run

[sick breach]

I imagine they update the count of forsaken everytime they add a new one.

#suggestions message I like this suggestion, in particular it's ability to provide a use for accumulated trophies. Could unlock improved damage or yields for killing certain enemies, the more trophies you spend.

[spiral sleet]

it would be nice if the page that displays all the trophies you've collected also includes enemy info on said enemy types

then finding trophies could be how you gain info on each enemy type

might need to be a little more complex for similar enemy types that share a trophy

could add multiple stat pages for those

[gentle terrace]

There's a page that shows all trophies ive collected?

[spiral sleet]

iirc you access it from an icon in the top right next to the ones that show your buffs/debuffs and toggle pvp

[gentle terrace]

Oh yeah

thought it was more of a list thing with stats and stuff that was in suggestions before and I was like "what? that exists?"

[spiral sleet]

oh I just think it would be nice if it was updated to include such info

[gentle terrace]

well thats a very common suggestion

[spiral sleet]

the idea above made me think about it

[gentle terrace]

bestiary sort of thing

[stiff stag]

Yeah, a bestiary is a very common suggestion lately (one post got very popular then a couple of other people started making their own to ride on the success of the initial one). And the trophy screen simply would not work for that purpose since not all creatures have a trophy or will ever get one.

[quartz totem]

Imo ghosts should be removed or given them a purpose; at least bats have a chance to drop leather, but I think chickens must have a trophy.

[open dagger]

where are you gonna fit that trophy in the trophy tab, chicken head hanger?

[quartz totem]

Maybe. They could update that as well, first line feels like something is missing.

[open dagger]

maybe chickens could go there

then a greyling trophy to add to my greydwarf collection and the first line is filled

[unique robin]

yea beastiary would be nice

[gray root]

in norse myth frost giants play a large part, the world was created when odin killed ymir, and from his body the world was created, i would be also surprised if we did not get 1 more end game-ish troll sized enemy

[granite geyser]

Doesn't mean they should be in valheim. Especially when they are very explicitly dead

You literally mine their remains...

[finite vapor]

#suggestions message honestly tower shields in general are terrible and need a rework

#suggestions message bro sometimes drakes drop 3 freeze glands or goblins drop 3 bm on 1.5

[stark furnace]

absolutely wild

[finite vapor]

1.5x1 =3 somehow XD

[stiff stag]

On x3 they seem to drop between 3-6. Tested deer hide on x3 and I'm getting between 4-7 (they normally drop between 1-2, so the expected range on x3 should be 3-6, but the high and low ends are off by 1 somehow). Bone fragments from skeletons work normally (they only drop 3 on x3 as expected).

[unique robin]

dont they drop 2 bm though so that should work out to 3 at x1.5 shouldnt it?

[plush trout]

No. Finding of dead bodies doesn't mean that they are dead ALL. During the violent conflicts are dead bodies found but usually both side of conflict are still alive.

[unique robin]

except humans are numerous and i dont think giants are numerous if that makes sense

[plush trout]

But still finding corpses in one biome doesn't mean that they aren't present in biome another.

[finite vapor]

0 star fuling drops 1 normally up to 2-3 with resources on 1.5 which is wrong. Similar a drake drops 2-3 freeze glands on 1.5
Also blobs drop 2-3 oozes on 1.5.

[lofty wave]

#suggestions message We already have tamed wolves and summoned skeletons

[granite geyser]

Fair.

Either way, would be much better to have something more unique rather than the cliché of getting Norse giants in a Norse game

[open dagger]

"send out your warg riders" moment

[granite geyser]

@trail marsh less ridiculous than having to farm the items needed to summon the boss AGAIN?

Especially when some of them are even non-renewable or very extremely hard/tedious to get

[stiff stag]

Munin's hint leaves it a bit ambiguous on whether the Jotun went extinct or not. We only see remains and so far only in the mistlands, and it's said they ruled over the 10th realm and were ousted by some other power (something else that's left ambiguous on what actually killed them). For all we know that "other power" completely wiped them out and not just in the mistlands.

[short wing]

Don't forget about all the damage you might have already done to it going to waste.
Imagine almost having killed fader for then to make a mistake and die and you have to summon him again and do all that damage again.

[quartz totem]

Me... lmao. Fader was like 2 hits away when I died (potion wore out)...Sure I died a second time, but third is the charm.

[stiff stag]

3rdieth

[trail marsh]

The altar could for example be scripted to not require the resources again until the boss dies

• i don't know about others but I always have tons of summon resources

[short wing]

For fader it seems the amount is rather fixed, 20 forts and when they are gone no more bells.
Same for Yagluth, moder and the queen.
Only bosses you can keep on summoning is eikthyr, elder and bonemass.

[trail marsh]

Well that's the punishment for dying, it's no victory dying hundreds of times end everytime move the health bar little, that way you don't really beat the boss imo. Look on souls games for example they also reset the boss

[lofty wave]

They reset the boss but they don't make you potentially spend hours finding more items to resummon the boss

[trail marsh]

I agree that in Ashlands it would be bad

Nevermind it was just a suggestion it would have to be executed smartly

[lofty wave]

It would be bad in mountains and plains too, and if it's inconsistent between bosses that would be weird

[short wing]

This is not a souls game and slogging away for 15 minutes or more over and over again while the terrain gets destroyed and other mobs come to interfere and fuck things up till you get a clean run trough isn't fun.

[open dagger]

dying is sometimes necessary since you won't know the attacks and won't be that good at dodgin them

[lofty wave]

If you just raise your shield and watch the attacks to learn them you'll usually be ok, unless you're using a buckler

[inner urchin]

Then again it's cliche to have generic fantasy monsters like slimes and skeletons in a viking game than viking inspired enemies. Good thing Fulings are not called goblins.

Then again what is possibly a good enemy idea for the deep north enemies anyway? Giants, frozen elemental enemies or golems? Maybe bearmen or berzerkers? I hope they don't add fenrigs as reused enemies like flaming undead in the ashlands.

[lofty wave]

An enemy that can cast a spell to apply bukeperries debuff

It could be for a short duration that only loses one food

But if the enemy is starred it will make you lose two or three

[inner urchin]

Terrible idea. It would make fighting enemies bad and food resources worse. Requires stacking a lot of food and if it lasts for 10 seconds then you're dead.

[lofty wave]

It's perfect for a challenging enemy in the final biome, not something the player constantly has to deal with

[inner urchin]

Well if it's groups of it then it's basically not fun to deal. Almost artifically difficult without being fun. At least ashlands makes you on your toes while getting great benefits.

Though I'm clueless what difficult iron gate would come up with when designing difficulty In deep north.

[lofty wave]

I don't mind as long as we don't get more feint attacks.

Feint attacks would be fine if there was an earlier indicator the enemy was using one, so the player doesn't have to guess

[inner urchin]

Well to be fair the charred warriors were actually fun enemies to fight. Sure it's hard to tell when they attack but you can already dodge 90% of their attack due to slow swing speed and speed itself and you're not gonna take hots if you know what you're doing.

Could be really good to see for returning enemies using feint attacks.

[vestal linden]

the big problem with this idea is that you rarely fight only one enemy at a time

sure, it would make a one on one fight a lot more interesting, but if there are multiple enemies, losing a third of your maximum health, or a big chunk of stamina, would really, really hurt

[granite geyser]

And sometimes I do wish there were better options but it is what it is

[open dagger]

they could add that to bonemass

[short wing]

Good to know, still they are a pain to get to the moder altar, even more so when her mountain hasn't got enough eggs.

[blissful nest]

I believe the queen has an altar that takes seeker soldier trophies to summon her once you make the deal breaker and open her door.
It would be kind of weird on having to use another sealbreaker to resummon her when the door to her lair is already open.

[stiff stag]

Eikthyr, elder, moder, and the queen can all be resummoned indefinitely. Bonemass can't, but practically speaking it doesn't matter with how many of the summon item you get. Yagluth can't either since the only renewable source of totems is cut off after beating him. Can't comment on the Ashland's boss since I haven't made my way there yet.

[lofty wave]

You can get renewable totems from the Zil and Thungr raid

[stiff stag]

Oh, forgot that was a thing.

[lofty wave]

It would be very slow and luck-dependent though

[granite geyser]

Point is still valid as hildir's questline is separate from the main progression

So getting a renewable source of totems after Yagluth is a matter of "if" rather than "when"

[blissful nest]

Also I am pretty sure this game is not trying to be dark souls

The way the bosses are done are absolutely fine.

[vestal jacinth]

last boss is so cool tho

[gentle terrace]

They're all cool in their own way imo

[blissful nest]

#suggestions message
You go from an undead eternal army of Ashlands to fight alive-ish combatants that have set themselves up in the DN and will fight to protect their territory you encroach on. They will be brutal and enduring and fight smart to always keep the player on their toes. Being able to rally or spawn other troops would be an interesting mechanic and make the player feel like the enemy is equal to their own power.

[granite geyser]

@chrome sluice troll raid is literally the easiest to avoid...

Run away from your base. There, problem solved

Just avoiding attacks and running away until timer runs out is enough

[stiff stag]

Not to mention something that could ward off enemies would completely defeat the point of raids. Already bad enough that terrain manipulation is exploited for that purpose, or spamming work benches/etc. to prevent spawns altogether.

[hollow elm]

#suggestions message Just let me attach it to an item stand!

[quartz totem]

I would have plenty of "new" ideas (not knowing if they have names or already exist) but that's would be my suggestions. Like this one here: #suggestions message

[unique robin]

#suggestions message @unkempt mica nope never gonna happen since its mutliplayer only

[wanton atlas]

you could say it in a nicer way 😄

but yes. the idea would be unbalanced singleplayer vs multiplayer

[unique robin]

i could? uh yea maybe, just woke up and the first thing i had to do was bring a tech incompetent person their phone cause they didn't receive a SMS from the bank that they got money
(even though the bank doesn't send a SMS for that)
still had to do a virus check

[wanton atlas]

oof 😄

some people needs to have a dumb phone

to many hackings, spoofings, etc etc on modern tech

1-2 miss clicks and your phone is cloned in some virus factory

[unique robin]

an old flip phone that has no access to any fancy apps and isnt touch screen so no wierd swiping
can only call, sms, and play some music

[wanton atlas]

yup yup

I still miss my old dumb phone

best shit ever made

[jovial cliff]

@lofty wave That would destroy your whole world

[lofty wave]

Not if you destroy the enemies first

What’s the point of a raid if it doesn’t cause a little destruction?

[short wing]

I miss my nokia 3330, such a solid thing, I had it for 8 years and then lost it.
A car drove over it when it fell out of my pocket when I was going for a bike ride, got washed in the washing machine, soaked true when I was caught in a rain storm.
It kept on working, the letters were faded and there was a slight chip of a corner of the case but it worked.
Just taking it apart letting it dry out and put it back together and voila.

[wanton atlas]

mine was a nokia xpress music

strong as nokia ever was. extra memory for MP3's + built in radio + webradio, and I think it had some build in chip for music stuff. might been software only but..

[unique robin]

i did ahve an old nokia as well though no idea what nokia it was
what i do know is that is survived pretty much anything i threw at it (not that i was doing it on purpose) but still only got a new one years later and only becouse i wanted something slightly newer

[jovial cliff]

Morgan+Gjall are the most destructive enemies in the game, it would be mayhem

by the time you kill them they would already have done alot of damage

[lofty wave]

It’s a raid that would only happen towards the end of the game, any player should have good defences by then

[quick marsh]

At 1% that (i think) is lower than the lowest current raid rate.

[lofty wave]

And with the low chance there’s a possibility a player won’t experience it at all in a playthrough

[gentle terrace]

Sounds horrible

[jovial cliff]

also I think the morgen and the gjall would fight eachother since they are part of different factions

[lofty wave]

For even more chaos

[jovial cliff]

lol

[lofty wave]

It’s 1% because it’s triggered by sleeping, not every 46 minutes like other raids

[quick marsh]

Raid: you have angered the shorelines
Effect: spawn 20-30 neck at any given time during the raid 😋

[lofty wave]

Nooo then I’d need to kill all the necks it would be fun to fight that many though

[quick marsh]

Some people don't sleep, so there would be a way to prevent that raid chance...🧐

[lofty wave]

It could be at the start of a day, then?

[quick marsh]

If you want is to be more like the wolves raid, then sure, every morning/start of day.

[open dagger]

#suggestions message atgeir works fine for that

[unique robin]

that would be extremely difficult with deep north enemies all be 2 starred

[open dagger]

2 star charred wouldn't be fun either

[analog moss]

@dense ridge #suggestions message you can do this now with an atgeir or 2h club for plains crops

[short wing]

Not for carrots, turnips, onions and shrooms, harvesting them with a scythe would also be weird though.
Some tool to make harvesting and planting faster would be nice though.

[quartz totem]

Barley and Flax are the exception. It get tedious to harvest crops one by one when field is big

[unique robin]

a lox drawn planter?

[quartz totem]

Or remove the debuff (slow) when harvesting. So we can sprint spam E....

[open dagger]

i made a suggestion once about a 3m wide flametal cultivator wich you could sink into the ground and push, harvesting that way

[short wing]

Would be nice but I'd want it earlier than ashlands, black forest or swamps would be a nice spot for it.
I've also made suggestions among those lines for a multiplant and harvest tool but that was from before the crash.

[sick breach]

#suggestions message One way to achieve this right now is to half bury a door in the ground.

[delicate mauve]

What is the reasoning behind No to unique trophies for starred creatures? It was suggested quite a lot , but I see devs and discord dwellers are against it.

[stiff stag]

As cool as it would be, there would be a massive increase in inventory bloat, which imo outweighs the positives.

I seriously doubt anyone is downvoting it because of the concept itself, because starred versions of trophies would be amazing to have.

[delicate mauve]

Fair point. I were already running with auto-pickup off most of the time

[vivid ridge]

exactly lol me too

[quartz totem]

Do you have it on?! xD hehe
I have never had inventory management problems before Ashlands tbh. It has double the numbers of mobs of mistlands (if excluding dvergrs). 4 charred's, morgen, F.valk, asksvin, vulture, L.blob... (not sure if Skuggs count)

[open dagger]

imo there's some replaceable items in the ashlands that didn't need to exist

[hollow elm]

#suggestions message - I'd argue that starred creatures need to drop something rarer than their base drops. I don't see how adding 'quality' is any different to what's happening now with multiples of their base drops. Maybe a starred fuling drops a fuling totem, or starred trolls drop copper/tin ore; something like that.

[quartz totem]

100%... like proustite, prostatie.... that powder and that resin. Sulfur would do all of its craft*

[open dagger]

and also the morgen heart, it should either become more rare or removed, it's only used for the armor chestplate

[quartz totem]

Also I see no reason for a morgen heart... yeah

[quartz totem]

And if you backtrack, And discount arrows, Obsidian is also an useless item.

[open dagger]

and when me and my friend found charcoal resin for the first time, we thought it could be used as new fuel, it's just for pots

[open dagger]

yes but you take that with you like once and there's not much other stuff in mountains

[hollow elm]

Charcoal resin would actually be a great material for reinforcing wooden builds to withstand the weather.

[quartz totem]

I have a lot obsidian (many caves explored) because I thought it would have a building purpose.

[quartz totem]

We have resin... there was not need for a "charcoal" version

[open dagger]

wich reminds me, time to obliterate resin from the greydwarf farm again

[hollow elm]

Ok, so resin withstands weather. Charcoal resin withstands fire. The details are not important. The point is that there's not enough thought going into how the game progresses.

[quartz totem]

A normal resin could be hung on those cooking irons things (forgot the name) and turn them into "stiffened resin" and apply that to wood...

[open dagger]

or they could charcoal resin burn in smelters as long as 10 coal

[quartz totem]

I won't ever turn Hazard fire on....

[hollow elm]

I mean... if you already have wood, is there a reason to stiffen it? 😛

[quartz totem]

xD well, if you see that way...

But it warps on water, so you would stiffen it with that resin xD

[open dagger]

i turned it on, got two finewood chests full of coal and now i have turned it off, acutally poses a new challenge

[quartz totem]

Not when, as I saw in a video, there no way to put the fire out (for newbies) other than breaking the pieces connected, and the fire spreads too fast (it reminds me of old fire spreading mechanic of DST)

now they smolder first, then it has a window that burns

[open dagger]

well i never got to the point where it burns, since i knew the dangers and built wisely

[hollow elm]

Unless you're one of the valheim game-designers, you "knew the dangers" because you researched it from the experiences of other people.

[quartz totem]

I lost half my kitchen and some chests upgrades, not much.

[open dagger]

no because i expirienced it in the ashlands in another world

[quartz totem]

And I saw once in a video (iirc was a Dev) that to add a new creature, this creature must have a drop, and that drop a purpose. However (I'm not blaming the devs) they didn't take into consideration the cluster of items ashlands has to offer... Therefore they had to give a "single" purpose for such drops.

[hollow elm]

In context, you realise that's no different, right?

[open dagger]

in some way, yes

[quartz totem]

Obsidian should be found in the ashlands where there is actual lava... idk hehehe

[open dagger]

maybe all high mountains in valheim were once volcanos

[quartz totem]

I have a cluster of mountais that resembles one... if I had the time I would build a "volcano" there...

[hollow elm]

That's a really good observation. If I were to trust the devs, I'd suggest that they envisioned the Mountains as 'very old' Ashlands and made obsidian available... 😂

[lofty wave]

@cerulean bolt When you roll (block+jump) you can’t take damage to enemy attacks, which is perfect for getting your items back in a dangerous situation

[cerulean bolt]

No read it again

I addressed this problem

So if you’ve fought the boss and lost and now want to spawn him again as the boss despawned, you would just have to interact with it. Only the first time you spawn a boss it consumes the summoning items.

[lofty wave]

Another reason why bosses shouldn’t despawn that was brought up recently because of a similar suggestion is that the player would have to do all the damage again if they die towards the end of the fight, and some of the later bosses can be very tanky so a player would lose a lot of time for what could potentially be a small mistake with how punishing the later bosses can be

In other games where this system does work well, the bosses usually don’t take anywhere near as long to kill

[cerulean bolt]

I mean me as someone who plays soulslike games wouldn’t mind that. Games you enjoy you usually want to last as long as they can and that would make rhe fights much more rewarding

[cerulean bolt]

Which games do you have in mind?

[lofty wave]

Terraria, soulslikes and probably some others I can’t think of right now

[cerulean bolt]

Yeah, well my suggestion comes from something that really ruined my experience and in my opinion can be handled better.

[lofty wave]

In those games the fights are short, so when the bosses are reset the player doesn’t lose as much progress

[cerulean bolt]

Elden ring fights take way longer as valheim fights tho

[lofty wave]

Not with valheim’s later bosses

[cerulean bolt]

And are much harder, in valheim the bosses have like three moves total

[cerulean bolt]

Might be idk

I stopped at bonemass

[lofty wave]

The later bosses take much longer to kill and have larger movesets with harder-to-dodge attacks.

[cerulean bolt]

That sounds really nice

If my idea was implemented this would make it even nicer in my opinion

Your counterarguments are not very significant yk

[lofty wave]

I think more bosses could have a proper arena like the current final 3, but valheim’s bosses just have too much health to be reset

[cerulean bolt]

Hmm, but bosses should be designed so that they can be killed upon first time summoning

[granite geyser]

Not for everyone

[cerulean bolt]

I really don’t see the problem in a health reset

[cerulean bolt]

Why?

[lofty wave]

They can be killed upon first summoning. I didnt die to a boss until my second playthrough

[granite geyser]

Because not everyone has the same opinion...

It's pretty self-explanatory

Losing your entire progress from dying would be a lot more infuriating

[cerulean bolt]

Your items Being gatekeeped by a boss in the swamp very hard to reach because of draugrs and what is I think a lot more infuriating

As is said it ruined the experience for me

[cerulean bolt]

So why is the health reset that big of a problem

[lofty wave]

You can eat stamina food and roll and jump to reach your items safely

[cerulean bolt]

Through the swamp??

[long glacier]

Yes

[granite geyser]

They can be lured away.

You have control over that. But dying and then also losing any progress you did to the boss no

[cerulean bolt]

Yeah I mean I tried it back then multiple times

[cerulean bolt]

Might be me who plays soulslike games and is used to this

[lofty wave]

Did you have a portal nearby?

[cerulean bolt]

I think no

And it was very far away like I had to sail

But still going back and then the boss is still there doesn’t feel good too in my opinion

I want to summon him and kill him and not go back desperately and having to get my items

Might be preference at this point but as I said, ruined it for me

And still I don’t see any major counterarguments

The one you mentioned in the beginning I addressed because that was something I thought of too. Softlocking would be a major problem

[lofty wave]

I don’t see any major arguments from you either. Just ‘I play other games where bosses reset so valheim should do it too’

[finite vapor]

Not hard to recover stuff in swamp. Just wait until you die in the ashlands or Queen fight

In any case it's what backup gear and meads are for

[cerulean bolt]

Yeah idk the bosses staying there wandering around like an npc and gatekeeping your items

[cerulean bolt]

Yeah true that

Even the arena thing I mentioned? Idk it sounds better to me than having to fight of swamp creatures simultaneously

[finite vapor]

Bonemass's attacks are super slow and telegraphed. I'd imagine the poison is killing you? Or the other draugrs? Just shoot them with a spare bow and bring a poison mead

[cerulean bolt]

The first time you fight against a boss you usually don’t know what to expect so misstiming a dodge could and will happen to anyone

[lofty wave]

The queen (sixth boss) spawns in a dungeon so she has her own arena, but she can summon enemies.

[finite vapor]

I think random creatures adding to the fight makes them unpredictable and interesting, even if it's a little frustrating. Actually makes moder much much harder with a couple wolves or drakes jumping in at the wrong time.

[cerulean bolt]

And even the poison you couldn’t have known upon summoning to prepare potions

[lofty wave]

You should have poison mead with you anyway because you’re in a swamp

[finite vapor]

Yes it's normal you get rekt you learn poison mead helps you come back and smack him

[cerulean bolt]

Good point

[cerulean bolt]

But if I smack him by trying again like by summoning him again would make it feel better

[cerulean bolt]

And having good back up items is also very exhausting

I mean with the iron armor being as expensive as it is

And I imagine the latter armor has the same problem

[lofty wave]

You can use your old equipment as backup

[cerulean bolt]

But then one bonemass hit would obliterate you

[lofty wave]

You shouldn’t be getting in melee range of him. If he’s guarding your stuff you should be luring him away.

[cerulean bolt]

I think this is what happens to me back then

[cerulean bolt]

Yeah see I don’t like this kind of gameplay at all, it feels wrong

Just let him despawn and let me try as soon as I feel ready

Shouldn’t be hard to implement

Maybe I accidentally spawned the boss with way too low lvl equipment and now I can’t explore the area anymore because of the overleveled boss that won’t disappear

I think I’m going for a support ticket with this idea of mine

[finite vapor]

This 100%
Troll armor is more than enough for body recoveries in the first 5 biomes. That plus a bit of food can sustain several hits esp when corpse run kicks in

[long glacier]

You could go to a different swamp

[stiff stag]

Sounds like a personal problem to me. That's the kind of gameplay valheim (and plenty of other games) was designed around, it's not going to change.

[cerulean bolt]

I did point out that it my arguments might be preference based

But it’s fine. Good talk guys

[stiff stag]

Preference does not mean anything here. If you don't prefer valheim's intended gameplay and design (or any other game like that), then you simply don't play those types of games or learn how to adapt.

[cerulean bolt]

Valheim is not a genre tho. If something would improve the general player experience than chances are high that it will be implemented

[stiff stag]

Its gameplay is part of a genre that clearly isn't your speed.

[cerulean bolt]

Which genre?

It’s just a survival game with its own methodology. They can and will do whatever they want because no invisible restrictions or laws are holding them

Or rather principles

[stiff stag]

They already do what they want, and what they want is for bosses to remain after you die (otherwise it wouldn't have been designed that way in the first place). Either adapt to the situation or stop playing if you can't handle the gameplay the developers chose for their game to have. It's meant to be a brutal survival experience (not just light/casual survival experience like you seem to have mistaken it as), and having bosses despawn so you can more easily get your stuff back does not fit with that at all.

[cerulean bolt]

I mean no one knows why bosses don’t despawn, it might also be sloppy design

What I’m trying to say is that there are no rules or even other games valheim has to abide to which is true

So you guys know for a fact why bosses don’t despawn or what’s up with the facepalms

[long glacier]

Yes, the developers can make whatever decision they want, they don’t need to base it off anything else. This is the choice they made

[cerulean bolt]

Exactly and if my idea would be persuasive enough there would be no reason for the devs to not implement my idea, or am I wrong?