valheim-chat

[subtle panther]

i need a valheim update in my life

[vocal rivet]

Don't we all.

[fossil delta]

If you mean the North, sounds like expecting another year is the way to think.

[frigid gust]

From what I am gathering, the combat update should be before it, possibly a minor content drop either separate or with it as well. But no new biomes until Deep North.

[fossil delta]

Hmmmm... clearly I should pay more attention to the news. Combat update?

[frigid gust]

I think they're currently reworking how the weapons and combat works, slope combat is a common issue many people have. But I'm only going off of things I've read here, I don't know of any official announcements or anything right offhand.

[frigid gust]

#suggestion-discussion message

And that exhausts my knowledge of it 😛

[shy marlin]

New armor set and weapon teased too

[fossil delta]

So relatively minor stuff. Compared to a full biome, anyways.

[tacit crystal]

I would argue slope combat improvements being huge change, at least I think so.

[nocturne wolf]

We still need to see how exactly they have changed it

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, still remains to be seen.

[shy marlin]

yea we've only had one teaser on it anyways

[tacit crystal]

Even thought it seems "minor", all previous minor updates have affected greatly to the whole game.

[shy marlin]

Frost caves, Abom, Bog are all S tier

[fossil delta]

Definitely pretty major, if that is one thing they are finally able to address.

After all these years, that is one fix I'll believe when I see it.

[last elm]

What all do I need to be looking for in the swamp for recipes and crafting? Also, which weapons should I prioritize? I’ve been using the mace and bow a lot

[shy marlin]

Iron mace

Root harnesk

[last elm]

That comes from those big tree monsters right?

[paper marsh]

look for stone structures with iron gates in front of them. Gate can be opened if you have the right key

Big tree monsters are good to kill. All the local inhabitants drop good stuff honestly.

Keep an eye out for yellow flowers (look similar to the carrot seed plants, but yellow). They're hard to spot and not too plentiful, but will up your food game

[fossil delta]

The yellow flowers for turnips are hard to see in the darkness, etc... but those are your critical food to find. Aside from monster drops.

Another hard to find food, which you have already found in the previous biomes, are the red mushrooms. So just be aware they are there as well. Like Thistle is.

[last elm]

I'll keep all that in mind. Hopefully I don't have any deaths in this first trip to the swamp

[charred rune]

Also you have to go out at night to hunt a mob that doesn't spawn at daytime.

[last elm]

Not for my first visit I don't. There's an increased chance of 1 and 2 star enemies spawning at night. That basically equals death for me

[charred rune]

Yeah, better tread carefully yet you'll need that one eventually.

[paper marsh]

^ that nighttime mob is not particularly critical. Daytime exploration is fine imo

[median ibex]

Oh wow.
Crystal Battleaxe just bullies Fuling Berserkers...

[bronze cairn]

axe power :)

i like swords though :/

and bows :)

[median ibex]

Cleared out my first Fuling Camp with Draugr Fang and Crystal Battleaxe :)

No deaths.

[quasi latch]

"Hey, what's that buzzing..."

[median ibex]

I bully Deathsquitos with the Crystal Battleaxe.
They approach? I poke. They die.

Ridiculously easy to parry, as well.

[bronze sierra]

no skill issue found. well done

[last elm]

Do swamps need to be a certain distance from spawn?

[quasi latch]

Yes. 2000-6000 meters from spawn, or 2000-8000 for older worlds.

[last elm]

So I gotta go pretty far? I tried exploring around the elder boss area in my world but it was all just black forests and mountains

[quasi latch]

Sail around for a while and you'll probably find one after a while. It really depends on the seed.

[paper marsh]

Depends what you find to be far. I wouldn’t say super far, but move in one direction. If you’re just like circling your spawn island or something you might not find one

[last elm]

Yeah, that’s what I’m gonna be doing

The elder was a good boat ride away from my spawn so I just took a straight shot through that island but there was nothing from what I saw

[crisp tartan]

when 1.0 comes, will Deep North be after the Ashlands?

[paper marsh]

Yes

[crisp tartan]

awesome

do we know when the combat update will be coming

[obsidian raven]

Been away a long time. Did they ever make a permanent structure for a better underground base than the forest boss platform?

I found i could make a very functional micro base under them

Super safe

[lapis jay]

When it's ready, of course

The devs have been pretty good about keeping a decent pace for updates. I get you're eager, so am I, but do be patient. We can only get a better game by being patient

[median ibex]

I've logged almost 10 hours a day on Valheim for the past 14 days...

[median ibex]

Funnily enough, even though it seems like it might have the opposite effect, the best way to remain patient for an update is to talk about your hopes for it / theorycrafting what could be included with it, in my experience.

Like, I for one would like to see every -20% movement speed penalty on equipment reduced to -10% in the update, so things like Battleaxes, Tower Shields, etc.
And then perhaps Atgeirs increased to -10%. It's only fair considering they're heavy, stamina intensive weapons, as well.

[lapis jay]

That certainly is fine. What I'm asking for is less questions about when it's coming, lol

[median ibex]

I get that, I'm mostly just trying to open a dialogue around it.

[lapis jay]

Actually, I'd rather atgeirs didn't have a speed penalty. It's the most unrealistic thing about them

Irl spears are quite nimble, as far as two handed weapons go

[median ibex]

I get that, but there's still more mass there than Axes, for example (not Battleaxes though), and since other equipment usually imposes -5%, on top of in-game balancing reasons (something something Atgeirs are just so strong), then I see a -10% as quite justified. Plus, they'd still retain their relatively quick primary attacks; one weapon having more mass than another weapon doesn't mean you can't be nimble with them, but it does mean you are carrying more weight. You know?

[lapis jay]

More weight doesn't necessarily make it harder to move. It's about the way that weight is distributed. Axes are actually less nimble than spears because of the way the weight is distributed

With axes, the weight is concentrated at the far end of the stick, away from the hand. With spears, the weight is nearly evenly distributed throughout the whole weapon. Swords are the most nimble because the weight is concentrated basically at the hand.

[median ibex]

I mean, yeah, fair.
But at some point I'd argue realism also becomes less and less important in terms of video game balance, unless absolute realism is the defining feature of a game. Currently the equipment with -20% movement speed penalties just don't deserve such a high restriction, especially when looking at Battleaxes and Tower Shields; there's already struggle with using them, such as either slow attacks or the inability to parry, so further punishment seems unjustified to me.
My main point I guess is the reduction of these, to be honest. Although I could see them keeping them on the Battleaxes if they bump the damage on them further, especially considering Iron Atgeir and Battleaxe have similar base damage numbers on primary attacks, but with Battleaxe being so slow in comparison.

[lapis jay]

I certainly wouldn't object to the removal of the -20% penalty. The vast majority of medieval weapons and armor wasn't nearly as heavy as most people think

[brazen linden]

What is the preferred wiki for Valheim? I see valheim.fandom.com/wiki has a "Official wiki" tag on its page, and its mention in Pinned in this channel.

[plush umbra]

that's the one~

[brazen linden]

Anyone here active on that wiki? I think I found a minor inconsistency.

[plush umbra]

@vocal rivet's the first who comes to my mind, but i'm not sure if he's around right now (sorry for the ping if you aren't! 😅)

[vocal rivet]

I wasn't...what's happening?

[plush umbra]

the 3 messages prior are all the context i have

[vocal rivet]

Do tell?

[brazen linden]

I was browsing regarding Fish bait, and see that all Trophies pages are short and sweet, exept for Serpent. valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Serpent_trophy
That page refers to use of Cauldron to make the bait, and mentions the bait can catch Coral Cod, but no mention of Tuna.
And then I noticed the Category:Crafting (25 items) vs Category:Crafting_Struckture (47 items), where Crafting has all of its items in the Crafting_Structure page, exept Cultivator, Hammer and Hoe. Is this intended?

[vocal rivet]

I wouldn't say intended, but we're in the process of revamping the categories though so things are a little out of sync at the moment. I'll look at the trophies too. Most of them AREN'T useful which is why they're short.

[brazen linden]

I liked the short pages 🙂
And the wiki did its purpose; Assisted me in confirming that Serpent Trophy sinks 🙂

[lapis jay]

Lol, you forgot a t in that last word, :p

[brazen linden]

Sorry, I don't know how it smells. No lore on that matter.

[shy marlin]

yooo

[obsidian abyss]

custom mods are only work for owner of server?

[foggy glacier]

you'll get a better answer in #mods-discussion or #mods-issues

[obsidian abyss]

oh ty

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I need to talk to a fishing expert. The fish act contrary to the bait your using. When you use one bait, the fish in the area it does NOT work on will be all over your bait, telling you they are not interested, and the fish the bait is meant for, disappear from the area. You switch to bait that is good for the fish your now seeing, then they go away and the fish you were originally trying for come back, and you get told they aren't interested in the bait your now using. So how do you fish in mixed groups like that, when they switch out like that?

[light moat]

I’m no expert, but I’ll share my experience. When you’re fishing, any of the fish in the area can come and attempt to bite, regardless of the bait. All the bait does as far as I know just allows for the fish to successfully hook or not.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I know that is how it is SUPPOSED to work, but when we fish in areas with multiple domain fish present, the ones the bait is meant for, will go away, and the fish its not meant for, are all over it, and you get told how they are not interested in your bait. So then I switch meant for the type I now see, then they go away, and the other domain fish come back, and tell me how they aren't interested in my bait, so I/we catch nothing.

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, you gotta just wait for the wanted fish to bite.

[fossil delta]

I have waited. Entire day/night cycles, and the right fish just do not come back. We have to fish where we only see the right group in order to be successful.

[light moat]

Unlucky 😭

[tacit crystal]

You could try fish in different location in that case. New fish will arrive soon after.

[light moat]

Just curious, what is it you’re trying to catch?

[fossil delta]

Yeah, like I said, we do fine when we fish where we only see one group, but in mixed group areas, which occur most often in Ocean areas, won't bite at all, and in fact just completely disappear, and only the wrong group stays around.

I actually suspect its a game bug, but wanted to see if any serious Valheim fishing experts, figured out how to get them to sort them out.

[tacit crystal]

What particular fish you're trying to catch currently?

[light moat]

I’ve had situations where I’m fishing for a group of trollfish, then pesky ocean fish start wandering in and going for my bait
Those tuna are so fast lol

[fossil delta]

We were going for the ocean fish, but like in one area, troll fish would come in and replace them, and the Ocean group would disappear, or maybe stay in sight, but not come to the bait.

The tuna were the only one we would even catch, when they were around. So they seem to "work" correctly.

Personally, I usually do not care, but now that several fish types are key for certain meads, we want/need to catch those specific fish.

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, fish in adjacent biomes in the active area might come closer sometimes. Maybe try go deeper inside the Ocean biome?

[obsidian raven]

Any deep dives on how fish mechanics work?

[tacit crystal]

Currently the only fish needed for meads are ||perch||, ||trollfish|| and ||grouper||.

[fossil delta]

I thought we were already too deep into the ocean for the BF fish, as one example, to show up, but they still did.

[wooden tapir]

ive been out so far i couldnt see land, and yet i was stil in "Black Forrest"

[fossil delta]

Yeah, so far the only reason we have grouper is because we found a plains area where they like to wash up on land during storms. We have found only two areas where we can catch grouper without this "bait confusion" occurring.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, there are tons of such areas, coming up as various biomes, with no such land in sight. Thats always happened.

[tacit crystal]

There are lots of watery areas that are not deep enough to be considered as ocean biome.

[fossil delta]

Yep, but I am being told I am in Ocean when this happens.

[wooden tapir]

oh weird

[fossil delta]

Very weird.

Up until now I only cared about getting fish meat for food. So this is my first time going after the specific groups.

[wooden tapir]

should try for fishing hat (:

[fossil delta]

Yeah, no. Not interested in finding the few caves that have that one fish type in it.

[tacit crystal]

In short:

• Choose bait (you can make different baits in preparation table with certain trophies)
• Throw the bait with fishing rod
• Wait until fish start trying to catch
• When you see fish catching, indicating small waves around the bait, start reeling
• Reeling consumes stamina and when fish struggles against it consumes more stamina, not reeling won't consume stamina but not regen it either
• Reel until the end or until you can pick the fish, you can also move back to pull the fish from water to pick it easier.

[fossil delta]

Plus, don't you have to catch a lvl 5 of each fish type? Neither of us can even pull in a lvl 4 from 5 meters out right now.

[tacit crystal]

For fishing hat? No, any quality fish will do.

You need total of 7 of each fish to craft and fully upgrade it.

[fossil delta]

Well, thats good. Still not hunting down the reportedly few caves that have that fish in it.

[obsidian raven]

I would call that more about the fishING mechanics, not the mechanics/behavior of the fish themselves, which is what I'd be interested in

[fossil delta]

Yeah, the wiki does not go over in game behaviors for the fish, or much of anything in the world.

[tacit crystal]

Ah, pardon me. Well, their behavior is quite random like IRL fish too.

[fossil delta]

So it sounds like a game bug to me, so far. So I will report it and see what comes of it.

[sonic drum]

i havent personally found a way of getting around the fish coming after the wrong bait, i've seen it happen with every type of fish (aside tetra) where i am specifically going after "this fish" only to have every other fish in the area try to go for the bait. I have also seen numerous times (esp in ocean) where i will stop to fish for something and waves will come along and the fish will get moved way away from where im at, i go chase them and it happens again.

[obsidian raven]

@tacit crystal It may seem that way, sure. But they ARE programmed. Wonder if anyone has studied it like they have with things like stamina regen or cover of workstations

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I am thinking its a game bug. They should come after the correct bait when we use the correct bait, not disappear.

[tacit crystal]

Studying the arts of Valheim fish behavior.

[fossil delta]

#steam-bugs-discussion is where I would submit it?

[sonic drum]

even in areas where specific fish spawn they are still selective on when they will bite, I havent seen anything to indicate they bite more frequently whether its time of day, weather, or w/e. So idk if there is a mechanic other then the fish acting like a normal mob would

[fossil delta]

Yeah, its clearly odd/incorrect behavior in certain areas. It works fine when its a area where we see only the correct group.

[sonic drum]

even the tetra fish dont bite at times, ive sat there for an entire day without a bite (yes i had correct bait)

[fossil delta]

Tetra are the cave fish? I haven't even found a single cave with a pool in it.

[sonic drum]

yea, they are kinda rare; the one with the lake at the bottom being the rarest

use the map gen to help you find them

[fossil delta]

I am sure if I meticulously searched every cave I'd find them, but I only clear out maybe 6 caves in a given play through, just to get the other mats for the other items.

[sonic drum]

there arent a lot on the maps, maybe a dozen or two out of all the caves in the game and maybe a few of those will have the lakes in them. The smaller "ponds" in the caves are almost always on the first floor and the "lake" is always at the bottom.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, has not been worth the effort to me. If they want me to get interested in it, stop making those lakes and pools so rare. Which is never going to happen, so I am never going to be making that hat.

[sonic drum]

well atm the worst part of the hat imo is the northern salmon you have to get from deep north, only cause you have to go explore there to get the fish and could effect how the deep north populates when it comes out, I made a back-up so i can fish there without worrying about ruining the deep north

[fossil delta]

That is a problem right now as well. I'd probably fish to the extreme west and east if I cared about getting the hat, but I don't. So its not an issue for me.

[sonic drum]

the hat is kinda worth it, it has +20 swim and fish skill on it; but the overall effort for it doesnt feel rewarding in the end

[fossil delta]

Plus you don't get there until your practically done with your play through.

[shy marlin]

I hope they revisit fishing

[fossil delta]

So, we just discussed the several reasons I have never cared to try and get that hat. 😄

[sonic drum]

it being EG item is a draw back well, you at minimum arent going to be able to get it until you get to ashlands and those fish atm are pointless aside the hat

[light moat]

Just needs a wee bit of love 🤏

[fossil delta]

Yeah, the whole thing seems to be too much of an after thought for me to care about it, game wise.

[light moat]

Damn, magmafish would be a fantastic component for a mead/potion 🤔

[sonic drum]

i would rather get rewarded for giving an NPC a 5* fish of a certain type, and yes fishing could use some love; i'd also like to see durability on the fishing rod as well

[fossil delta]

Even the meads are a bust for me, as far as the one that helps with jumping and running. My skill for both was in the 70's when I got around to making either one, so I can't see any real difference in my running or jumping now. I am sure its there, its just not something I can tell is having an effect.

[light moat]

Rat pot is pretty useful for me 👀

[fossil delta]

Rat pot? Don't think we have discovered that one. Whats the recipe item?

[sonic drum]

a lot of the fish are under used atm, bog witch added some and there are only a few foods as well, but mainly aside fishwraps the only fish worth going for are troll, perch, puffer, and angler

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I like angler for the Mistlands food.

[sonic drum]

and puffer are a work around for dvergr bases in mistlands

[fossil delta]

I admit it, I have used that work around. I usually just kill them off by pulling in seekers, etc...

[sonic drum]

i do that too but when those arent around i just poison them

but that in itself is a limited use

[fossil delta]

Well, I have plenty of puffers this time, so I may use that trick more often.

[sonic drum]

you can use them for creature farms but atm that causes lag

[fossil delta]

Typically, I have only had puffers in past play throughs because I found them on the shore line, or they jumped into my boat.

[light moat]

Ratatoskr, I don’t remember the recipe off the top of my head, but it needs squirrel legs from the bog witch- that’s all I remember lol

[fossil delta]

OR, had players on my server who liked to do the fishing.

[fossil delta]

I think we have made that one. We have the legs. So at least the recipe is there.

[tacit crystal]

Magmafish mead granting 100% resistance to heat (aka lava/spicy water).

[light moat]

Or is it pickled squirrels? Something like that. It has squirrel in it lol

[tacit crystal]

Hamstring, blueberries, honey.

[light moat]

Was thinking this too, maybe not 100% though 🤔 (at least for lava)

[fossil delta]

Yeah, squirrel hamstring. I wonder what had them come up with that? 😄 😄

[light moat]

Ah, so it’s not squirrel pickles 🙃

[sonic drum]

better res potions could be a thing, better foods later on, etc

[fossil delta]

Wait, that may be the Jumping one. Kinda makes sense.

No, thats light foot. So its probably the running mead.

[tacit crystal]

Jumping one is Lightfoot mead (scale hides, magecaps and feathers).

[sonic drum]

i got stacks of raw fish and fish and nothing to do with it atm, just hate seeing it all being basically wasted

[fossil delta]

We are at the plains/Mistlands part of the game, so I am eating plenty of fish wraps, at least.

[tacit crystal]

Seafarer's feast or fish wraps.

[sonic drum]

they are decent for that point in the game

[fossil delta]

Yeah, thats a great feast. 45/45 for 50 minutes.

[sonic drum]

im at EG atm so neither of those help really other then filler foods when im running around doing stuff

and even with that i prefer using other stuff cause its easier to make and i have an abundance of other mats at that point

[fossil delta]

Thats what I use the feasts for, when I am exploring, sailing, or doing stuff at my base/farms. When I am going to do serious fighting, I use the usual foods.

Now we have plenty of serpent meat. We didn't have any until we were made aware of the feast. Which is when we were fishing on the shore line, but were close enough to the ocean to get a serpent one night.

[sonic drum]

serpent stew is still one of my goto's even at late game

[fossil delta]

Now we have the trophies, meat and lvl 3 shield. 😄

Well, it does give 80 health, so, yeah, its great. Just for whatever reason, we weren't doing much sailing. We were able to swim to all the lands we needed, up until that point. Plus the one swamp where we did need to sail to and from, was real close to our other lands, so no going into an ocean biome.

[sonic drum]

one night out boating and ill kill at least one of them and thats usually 6-7 serpent meat so imo its worth the effort at least for that, its a good high hp food that lasts 30min

[fossil delta]

Yeah, now we are going out for serpents. So have the stew and a lot of meats. Plus the shield is lvl 3 and we have had enough trophies to make bait with. Still we were well into plains gear by then, so the shield is just a nice decoration this play through.

[sonic drum]

ill usually use serpent stew from swamps to mistlands and sometimes into ashlands until i start getting a good supply of hare meat

the shield can carry you into mistlands np

still hoping at some point in time to see some kind of scale armor from the scales

[fossil delta]

Yeah, we are getting a good hare supply this play through. We have a small Mistlands tip on a plains. Generates lots of hare, and we have yet to see a seeker there. The lox and death squittos help kill a fair number of them. So we already have two stacks of hare meat and over 50 hide.

We found Yag yesterday, so we will be moving fully into the Mistlands soon.

[sonic drum]

getting hare meat is always a struggle i have getting into mistlands, ill have chests full of seeker meat but very little hare meat in comparison; ive only once had an effective farm and havent been able to really reproduce it since, although i think that was when mistlands first came out

[fossil delta]

Yeah, it was the same here, then we realized finding Mistlands/plains border areas was a great way to get a lot of help killing hares. So when we found this one, we went all in. Hopefully we never have seekers spawn there.

Plus we already have our black metal pick axes.

[sonic drum]

i know the borders can provide that but i can never find an ideal area to set up in, it usually never has the roots or there is always mist covering it; i also usually set up a plains base asap so i can start getting the stuff from the crops and its never near the mistlands mainly for safety reasons

[fossil delta]

Yeah, its covered in mist, and no roots. So we use it to get hares and plant mage caps. Plus get enough wood to make our picks at lvl 4.

Big thing has been no seekers, soldiers or gjall have spawned there. We think because it so small, it has nothing to cause a spawn.

Aside from lots of hare.

We found a second similarly small area, but it has lots of roots. So we get seekers there.

No soldiers or gjall as of yet, so there is that.

[sonic drum]

gjall's suck =/

[fossil delta]

Depends. As long as I see them first...

Right now we are blind in the Mists, so it would definitely suck right now.

Its sucked fighting the seekers blind.

[sonic drum]

i can imagine lol

[fossil delta]

Yeah, especially since its spawned a 1 star every time. And of course its the one that hits me from behind.

[sonic drum]

my current mistlands base has gjall's that spawn all around it so i have to constantly be killing them

[fossil delta]

My wife would love that. She has a passion for those poison bombs.

I admit, they do help soften things up.

[sonic drum]

was never one to use the bombs tbh

[fossil delta]

Me either, but my wife has shown me they can be helpful.

Especially when dealing with groups. So real good for softening up fulings, for example.

[sonic drum]

i usually use a bow to deal with fuling, just hide in a rock and snipe them

[fossil delta]

Depends on how many we draw from a village. We can deal with 6 each in melee. So we have to screw up pretty bad to use rocks and the poison sacks. 😄

But we do screw up, so its nice to have poison to soften them up.

[sonic drum]

plains is about the time i start easing off the bow and going more towards melee combat only cause of the other weapon options that become available IE frostner, mistwalker, demolisher, etc

[fossil delta]

I do a pretty good mix all along. I like to have at least clubs and bow in the 50's when I get to the plains. I usually have axe and sword pretty close to that as well.

This time I was slack on the sword, so I only have it in the 20's this time.

[sonic drum]

bow becomes almost ineffective in mistlands/ashlands so i usually have to find something else to use

[shy marlin]

Huh

[fossil delta]

Yeah, lots of pierce resistance.

[shy marlin]

Nah bow + frost arrows is insane what

[fossil delta]

Yeah, but you go through those arrows so fast.

[shy marlin]

Luckily they’re easy to mass produce

[fossil delta]

Its faster to just do melee.

[shy marlin]

Or use both strategies

[sonic drum]

not against seekers/charred they are resistant to it

[shy marlin]

Frost arrows man

[fossil delta]

I save my arrows for the gjall. I don't want to have to keep going back to the mountains for more sacs.

[sonic drum]

frost arrows are good no doubt i do still use them even at EG

just the pierce resistance becomes more pronounced in mistlands/ashalnds then the other biomes

[fossil delta]

We have hardly used them so far. So we have just over 100 sacs, and we have found nearly 200 arrows in the chests, etc...

We used them most for that ice cream food. 😄 My wife likes those, but I refuse to use them that way.

[sonic drum]

i usually dont like switching from frost arrows, cycling through weapons i hate losing the frost from mistwalker/frostner so its nice to have that as a good back up. The frost effect is just sometimes too hard to pass up on esp solo

[fossil delta]

Yeah, II used to rely on them a lot more. But I do fine with obsidian and needle arrows. I still shoot enough to get my bow skill pretty high, but it no longer is my first skill I get to 100. Thats usually run and jump, now a days.

Heck, I have both in the 80's already, and we haven't done much in the Mistlands yet.

[sonic drum]

run/jump always end up being my highest in almost all runs, i seldom ever get weapons capped mainly cause i die from one stupid thing or another and neglect my skills cause im busy doing other stuff

[fossil delta]

By the Ashlands, I usually have clubs, swords, run, jump and bow in the 90's. This time I am seriously behind on my sword skill.

Due to lack of use, I am still under 10 deaths. I think I have died 6 or 7 times, so far. I'd have to count them on my map to be sure.

[nocturne wolf]

There is a stats command you can use to count your deaths

[fossil delta]

Oh? I guess I'll have to look that up.

I don't really care anymore. I am going to die however many times it will be. I just know its a pretty low number, compared to my early days. 😄 Man, my first play through? Probably died a hundred times or more, and that was only getting through the plains back then.

[rotund parrot]

Carry ooze bombs and just throw one at any hare you see and hare meat will not be a problem

[fossil delta]

Heh, my wife found a spot yesterday, where it was a mass hare casualty event, all thanks to those bombs. Think she got 10 hare.

[rotund parrot]

I used to struggle with hare meat and scale too but since I found out how well those bombs work and how easy it is to kill hare with them it's never been a problem at all

[median ibex]

Hey gang, Frostner or Crystal Battleaxe for Moder?

[sonic drum]

crystal axe if anything

[fossil delta]

I use my iron mace.

She is immune to Frostners cold, so the iron mace is better.

Definitely use poison arrows when she is flying, though.

[paper marsh]

I am an avid hater of bows, but this is just wrong

Seekers don’t just resist pierce, they also resist blunt and slash which means most melee weapons are penalized as well. Despite that though bows have so much damage that even with resistance they shred, and even more so when you use frost arrows for extra damage

[median ibex]

I do have Needle Arrows atm
Unless Poison are just better.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, but even with my skill only in the 20's, I still kill a normal seeker with 3 or 4 hits.

[rotund parrot]

Needle is better, poison doesn't stack

[fossil delta]

Not sure, I just typically use poison arrows on her.

[sonic drum]

in comparison to other weapons bows really fall off in these areas at least in my experience, you can get good hits on brutes with all weapons but over all i just found it more effective to use a different weapon on seekers/brutes

[paper marsh]

Like Needle > Obsidian > fire > poison I think is the arrow damage order for moder. Poison have an unfortunate mechanic of not stacking

[fossil delta]

If you can get off good shots to the rear of a soldier, bows are still pretty effective then.

[rotund parrot]

Optimal might be 1 poison, 3 needle, 1 poison but who would bother

[sonic drum]

thats if you can hit its rear, not too easy when solo and its not distracted by another player

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I alternate between poison and obsidian, just to give the poison time to work.

[sonic drum]

if you have draugr fang then there really isnt a point in using the poison arrows

[fossil delta]

Agreed. Solo is always much more of a challenge.

[fossil delta]

Arrow poison damage is higher, so I still use them even when I have fang.

[rotund parrot]

Seeker soldier you parry when it does it's side attack and then special butt attack with the sword usually does over 1000 damage

[sonic drum]

fair, i just stick to obsidian and fire and swap between the two

[fossil delta]

Yeah, but I don't parry. Or dodge roll. A hold over from before our having the ability to set the game to a higher difficulty.

Habits are hard to break. 😄

[shy marlin]

Don’t think so

Lose time swapping

Even if it’s half a second it still matters

[paper marsh]

Probably somewhat comes down to bow skill too, even if it’s a small difference. The lower your bow skill the more valuable poison arrows are compared to the rest

[shy marlin]

Rotation would have to vary too

Cause with higher bow skill it’s probably be poison then nine needle arrow then poison again etc

[fossil delta]

Moder is so slow, does it really matter? Just put it all in your bar, easy and fast switching.

[rotund parrot]

I would not be the one to try, if you put the arrows in the hotbar though is there really a delay for switching?

For moder I just want it to land so it can glitch out on top of me and I can keep attacking it with melee while she turns around

[shy marlin]

Last i did that there was a fractional delay but that was years ago

[fossil delta]

Not in my opinion. Hot bar switching is pretty much instantaneous.

At least for arrows.

[shy marlin]

There’s far better ways to optimize moder dps than arrows though 😅

[fossil delta]

Not when she is flying.

[shy marlin]

Wrong

[fossil delta]

Oh? Then how?

[shy marlin]

You can position yourself so that she lands where you can get much more damage in

Ideally you minimize the amount of time in air

And there’s some clever ways to do that

[fossil delta]

Like I said, I melee her with my iron mace. But when she is flying, I am not going to let her not get damaged.

[rotund parrot]

Do share, Idk if it's just me though but fighting her on the ground is always a mess

[fossil delta]

Its why I love to use the Eikthyr power for her. Helps me get to her, where ever she lands, and still have stamina to beat the crap out of her.

[rotund parrot]

I just want her to be able to attack but she rarely does, just keep going around in circle and I often get stuck underneath. That fight need works IMO

[fossil delta]

Moder fights have had issues since day 1, but they have made her better. My last fight with her was flawless.

Which was what? 4 or 5 days ago?

Regardless, they have been working on improving her fight.

[sonic drum]

every time i fight moder she just gets stuck on something and doesnt path around it til she starts flying again, sadly one of the easier fights because of this

[fossil delta]

She didn't get stuck in my last fight with her. No idea if that was pure luck, or their improving her. Its my first fight with her in over a year.

The terrain was highly variable, so she would have usually gotten stuck some where.

[paper marsh]

Fighting her with Melee feels balanced fine to me. A bit buggy which can be annoying but nothing major

[fossil delta]

Yeah, its only when she gets stuck some where that it makes the fight easy. This last time she never got stuck with us, so it was a good fight.

Hopefully that was because they have made improvements, not pure luck.

[median ibex]

Turnip Stew, Serpent Stew, and Eyescream fine for Moder?

[quasi latch]

That should work, although onion soup beats out turnip soup

[median ibex]

I liked the idea of higher duration and higher HP per tick

[tacit crystal]

I usually stick to turnip stew over onion soup due to bit longer duration and hp tick.

[flat vector]

Man... love me some valheim.

[quasi latch]

Interesting.
Another replacement you could consider is the ocean feast - a little less stamina but significantly better HP stats.

[median ibex]

Don't have Bog Witch yet, so can't do platters.

[quasi latch]

ah.
yeah you should be good food-wise then

[paper marsh]

sounds good. I like double hp foods but that's more of preference

[median ibex]

So... Turnip Stew, Serpent Stew, Eyescream, Level 4 Crystal Battleaxe, Level 4 Draugr Fang, Level 4 Silver set, and Needle Arrows.

[thorny kiln]

looking for someone to teach me how to play

[median ibex]

I like double stamina because Battleaxe is so stamina hungry.

[paper marsh]

That's fair. I think part of the reason i go for 2x hp (sometimes 3x hp) is to avoid getting oneshot on higher difficulty

But when i did normal i still liked hp

[rotund parrot]

It's more important IMO to just manage your stamina well than having a lot of stamina and knowing how the refill works to optimise it

[median ibex]

I mean, I do

but I like having excess for moments that allow me to really press damage

[rotund parrot]

By the way your are as prepared as you are going to be, may want to take the time to look for that witch though at one point

good luck

[median ibex]

I've been looking, but just can't find her. Gonna keep trying though.

[rotund parrot]

I'd recommend looking by doing a circle at around 1/3 of the width of the map

[paper marsh]

I'm coming up on Moder fight soon. Might see if i can get some plains food for it

[median ibex]

I should try East next.

[rotund parrot]

that's the most likely distance of her spawns

spot swamps from a distance, sail close to each swamp you see

[fossil delta]

Can you make ANY of the plains foods without moders tears? Can't make barley flour without her tears.

[paper marsh]

Not sure, very likely you can't

[fossil delta]

Great time for the Serpent Stew, though.

[paper marsh]

Haven't looked too much into it and not sure how feasts have changed things. Might try some cooked hare from the mistlands.

Kinda just winging it

I usually use serpent stew but have had real rotten serpent luck

[fossil delta]

Even the sea food feast is 45/45, so the normal foods are still best for fights.

[paper marsh]

My last fight with Moder I think I ate serpent stew, cooked serpent meat, and wolf skewer. And I just barely tanked a hit from her

This time I'm a notch down on difficulty tho, and I don't expect to get hit much anyways

[fossil delta]

I always use tower shields, and the iron shield handles her hits just fine.

[paper marsh]

Not a fan of tower shields. I like being a speedy snail

[fossil delta]

Yeah, but with practice, you can equip and unequip quickly, so I can run just fine when I need to.

[paper marsh]

Also they don't inherit any resistances or armor from the rest of your gear and meads right? so if she hits you with a 460 damage hit I feel like it would be limited how much the shield could stop

[fossil delta]

I'm in silver gear, so have the resistance. So... I don't let her breathe on me anyways. Its part of my running routine.

[median ibex]

Oh also, Medium Stamina + Medium Health Meads fine, ye?

[tacit crystal]

Tasty is great.

[fossil delta]

It never hurts to have those on you.

[paper marsh]

I don't think her breath does that much damage anyways, more her barrage.

But my point being I'm curious how much the shield helps if its damage negation is taken into consideration before your frost resistance

[fossil delta]

You only miss them when you die because you didn't have them.

[median ibex]

Longship is great..

[fossil delta]

I just hate how slow it is.

[median ibex]

Slow?

[fossil delta]

That only matters with her breathe, and I try not to be where she breathes, so I don't know. I only block her physical strikes and she does very little damage to me.

Physically, golems are more of a threat than she is.

[paper marsh]

ah yeah her melee is like half damage of the rest of her attacks

[median ibex]

Found the Bog Witch :)

[fossil delta]

Feasts! Plus some other cool stuff. I want her broom.

Watch that thing some time, especially when its out side. Kills everything. Except abominations.

Abominations are why I have 6 broken brooms.

I have yet to see if I can display those. I need to remember to try next time I sign in.

[haughty wolf]

Is there a way to change dodging/rolling without mods? I don't see any options in the keybinds. (default is Block + Spacebar)

[median ibex]

Moder's Mountain is surrounded by Plains...

[fossil delta]

Hmmm... usually there is at least a black forest on one side, but I have ran into it being surrounded by plains before. Not fun.

You can find up to 3 Moder locations, so maybe look for one of the others?

[nocturne wolf]

Plains shouldn't be a problem if you're ready for moder

[median ibex]

Eh, I'll do this one, it's just... annoying

[tacit crystal]

Not too bad, could be Mistlands.

[shy marlin]

No

I really hope they do eventually allow us to set keybinds for things like that

[sacred lava]

If you have a root harnesk you should be able to get through no problem

[median ibex]

I mean, I have Level 4 Silver set.
Just concerned about my ship.

[fossil delta]

Oh, I regularly just leave my ship "docked" at a nice large rock. Just put a work bench nearby, like up on the rock, and it should be fine. I can't recall ever losing one of my boats.

[sacred lava]

Right, but the harnesk will make deathsquitos not so much a pain in the hole, since it practically negates their pierce attack, once you can hit them, and just sneak by any other creature

[fossil delta]

Yesterday we found a nice fuling tower right next to a huge rock, so I turned that into a nice mini base. Its also close to a small Mistlands area.

[median ibex]

They barely deal damage to me as is, plus my Battleaxe poke trivialises them anyway.

[fossil delta]

I think they have greatly down graded the lethality of the squittos. I haven't missed having pierce resistance.

Well, I have, but that involved multiple squittos and multiple fuling spear throwers. That nearly killed me.

[sacred lava]

They can be lethal when tag teaming

[fossil delta]

Yeah, especially if its at the same time you aggro several fuling spear throwers. Even in plains armor.

Or like yesterday, when we aggroed starred seekers. We ran into the plains, and guess what? Several squittos decided to join in. Eventually they turned on the seekers and died that way. Which helped us live, so it was all to the good. Eventually.

[sacred lava]

Aye thank goodness there are creature gang wars

[burnt portal]

when is the next trailer for the upcoming update?

[tacit crystal]

Just break the ship and take mats with you.

[tacit crystal]

We will see it at the end of month if we get one, most devs are still on vacation.

[burnt portal]

i didn't think about vacations) thanks for your reply

[paper marsh]

For me its surrounded by mistlands. It be like that sometimes and you just gotta make a sprint. If you have root harnesk from swamp plains is no issue to run thruogh

[vocal rivet]

That's not remotely been confirmed.

[tacit crystal]

It's not, hence we will see.

[vocal rivet]

Your reply does kinda suggest it'll definitely happen then.

[tacit crystal]

Ah, I noticed now, I didn't mean it that way. More like we will see if we get an update from word from devs due to them being still on vacation.

Edited it.

[unreal pike]

deeply sadned, i cannot attach searpent scales or meat to my pet rock

[paper marsh]

Truly a dark day for humanity

[shy marlin]

Trying times 😔

[open pecan]

I'm so sorry.

[median ibex]

Spawned Moder.
3 Stone Golems appear during the fight.
Kill 2 of them.
By the time the 3rd appears, my health is low, and I can't Mead, so... I have to run.

[paper marsh]

I bet if you're creative enough you'll find a way. Even if it is just throwing it loosely in a way where it doesn't slide off

[paper marsh]

That's some oof luck

[median ibex]

Let's not forget about the Drakes either :)

[paper marsh]

Good job fighting off golems and drakes during a boss fight though!

She usually does draw in (or spawn?) mobs from around the place. A lot of people put a bit of spawn protection up to have a 1 on 1 fight. Or dig a hole to put a stone golem in nearby. Only 1 golem should be able to be spawned in to the nearby area at a time

[median ibex]

Reapplying Rested and then going back in.

[paper marsh]

Brave soldier

[fossil delta]

Some times thats what you have to do. My wife lays down campfires all over the place to prevent spawns.

For every boss.

[median ibex]

Moder down

I keep first trying bosses.

Or, at least, no deathing them.
I'm not 100% sure that Moder fight counts as "first try".

[unreal pike]

i usually first try bosses as well

theirs really only 2 bosses that i die fighting
queen and fader

gosh i hate those 2

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I forget how many times I fought the Queen before I figured out how to do it without dying. At least 8 times. I have yet to fight Fader.

[unreal pike]

If or when you get to him

i wissh you the most luck

[sonic drum]

i have plan for fader it involves 100 2* friends

[fossil delta]

I'll get to him. Might finally do it this play through. After 4500 hours of time invested in Valheim, I am pretty much waiting for them to finish before I put in the time for the last two biomes. So while I get into the Ashlands, I am doing it more for getting the new mats and recipes, than to beat the biome.

[paper marsh]

What weapons did you use on the first go?

[fossil delta]

For the Queen? I don't recall, that was close to two years ago.

Probably Mistwalker.

[paper marsh]

Just wondering becuase the difficulty of that fight is so dependent on whether you're meleeing or magicking

[fossil delta]

Oh, I only tried magic once. That went very badly. But it was not my first try.

In fact, after my 5th+ time dying, I left and got my melee gear, then beat her. Heck, I may have died 10 times in that fight. I don't even want to remember.

[unreal pike]

i used to do a melee magic build with 1 health, 1 stam and 1 magic food. that way when i regen stam i can use magic but I learne you become a saltine cracker like that sso i just melee focus again

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I like some aspects of magic, but melee is clearly my thing.

[paper marsh]

If you have 1 magic food you're never a saltine cracker. Staff of protection is tankier than anything else in the game

I personally love hybrid build of 1 of each food. Very cool synergy of going all in melee style with some magic to supplement it

But I am sad magic just feels overly OP. and before magic its just bows.

Melee is fun but I've never felt like it was worth the risk for the little reward you get (from an optimizing perspective)

[tacit crystal]

Full melee ftw.

[fossil delta]

I strongly favor melee, but I am sure having melee as my only option for around 4,000 of my 4500 hours playing has a lot to do with it.

[paper marsh]

I've never really seen a good argument for melee being more viable than magic and bows for general play and bosses

That said I'm a big melee guy

[shy marlin]

Melee is best for Fader

[fossil delta]

Having the magic occur so late in the game certainly doesn't help.

[unreal pike]

well i just never used sstaff protection when using magic just frost sstaff and fire

granted its not wise but im just more comfortable with full melee. ive memoried almost every attack pattern

[paper marsh]

elaborate. Best as in just - faster?

[shy marlin]

Yea, faster kill time

Magic is undeniably safer

But assuming you can avoid the fissure attack and meteors, fader literally cannot outpace passive hp regen with root harnesk on

[unreal pike]

i feel like thats a bit of a risky strat
cause even if you can avoid thosse theirs still the issue of the amount of enemies that spawn in asklands and the mobs fader spawnss aswell

I ddo Melee him but i run flammetal armor, bonemass, sstorm mace with major healing and fire res potions

[shy marlin]

It really isn't

Fissure kills all enemies that come in

And it's not like you have to eat every single attack

It's an example of resistances being op

[tacit crystal]

Ask set + Ashen cape + Thunder and Primal axes is my favorite approach.

[unreal pike]

man im struggling in my friends no map,boss cadence server. most people bussy rn and we havent defeated elder yet so im rocking lvl 3 root armor in mountains rn lmao

[shy marlin]

I was doing some science with Jade + Thunder swapping but it didn't really land anywhere

Maybe I need to get some more sample sizes but the kill times of just Lightning vs Lightning + Jade were very similar

[paper marsh]

I'm guessing there's too big a stamina loss in exchange for damage on blood weapons?

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, I usually use the jade axes more because the rooting is very useful.

[shy marlin]

Not anymore with Bzerker potions

The fastest way to kill Fader currently with no exploits is 3hp food, have faders meteor hit you and bring you to low hp, and purposefully eat attacks as the fight goes on to stay at low hp and use blood axes + blood gs (only for sneak hit on boss)

While popping bzerk potions off cd

But yea blood weapons in open world shenanigans aren't all that great

[paper marsh]

Should probably go into the fight at low health

[shy marlin]

You could also do that but getting hit by Fader meteor brings you down to like 8 hp anyways

Meteor as in the landing meteor animation at the very start

[paper marsh]

Need that juicy spiced up gs sneak attack damage

ah, forgot he had that

[unreal pike]

sweet i got lucky in getting onionss quickly

I so badlt wanna use the exploits to get iron and silver but it wouldnt be fair to the others

[undone forum]

Exploits?? Nononono, unintended features? Yes

[rotund parrot]

Im going to have full silver armor and a level 4 silver sword to fight bonemass, but I really am not looking forward to getting hunted by wolf constantly, maybe ill go into plains for a bit and start farming the crops before I do that

[merry pebble]

Do you really need the bonemass power that badly? Other than that killing him serves no purpose at this point 😄

[sonic drum]

its one of the better abilities though

at least for combat

[rotund parrot]

Well, my plan was to keep bonemass for when I get hunted by wolf anyway

On much more raids I seem to get raid every other day but the wolf one would probably trigger a lot more often

[tacit crystal]

Free wolf hide and meat delivery.

[rotund parrot]

Starting to reconsider killing bonemass at all, maybe I should wait just before mistlands

[sonic drum]

not needed for plains exactly but can be helpful, one of the better powers for combat in mistlands though

[rotund parrot]

definitely not stepping foot into the mistlands without bonemass ready on very hard

[light moat]

Alright I gotta ask since it’s come up a few days over the past few days
What’s so bad about the wolf raid?

[rotund parrot]

wolfs hit very hard and come from many different angle

I am just trying not to die and I feel more confident in taking out plains creatures and camps without bonemass than I do surviving a wolf raid

[tacit crystal]

Very hard difficulty?

[shy marlin]

Atgeir + wolf raid = meat + hide

Thanks for attending Valheim Math class

[rotund parrot]

Yeah trying to finish it on permadeath, I did normal and hard successfully now I have to try very hard

I don't care about meat or hide I have been eating better food than wolf skewer for a while

[light moat]

That’s fair, wolves can be pretty gnarly

[shy marlin]

Honestly if you're so worried about wolf raid that you're saving bonemassfor it, save bonemass boss for a later date and use eik

[light moat]

Does this mean wolf raid = meat + hide - Atgeir?

[shy marlin]

Well you lose the atgeir cause u died so yes

[rotund parrot]

thats what im leaning towards, I'd probably be fine agaisn't a wolf raid but I don't want to find out, on hard I'd just time my attack well as they get near and it staggers them and you just try to keep track of which one is coming next

[tacit crystal]

Atgeir = meat + hide - wolf raid.

[shy marlin]

Wonder what happens when we integrate 🤔

[undone forum]

Valheim math class?

[shy marlin]

Yup we doing diff eq soon login

[rotund parrot]

got hit for nearly 150 by a golem with 63 armor earlier today, it has me worried for the stronger creatures

[tacit crystal]

Uh it's over 11 years already from High school maths.

[sacred lava]

Bonemass is a fantastic ability, has saved my arse a few times

[undone forum]

Teacher, is the following equation correct? Torch>Dyrnwyn in terms of fire but Dyrnwyn>Torch in terms of looks

[shy marlin]

I concur.

[tacit crystal]

Torch > Dyrnwyn in terms of blunt too.

[undone forum]

On the other hand Dyrnwyn > Torch in terms of slash

[tacit crystal]

Yes.

[light moat]

Dyrnwyn = torch in terms of pierce

[rotund parrot]

Dyrnwyn doesn't deserve the hate, yes it isn't the best but it's not far off and it does look badass

[light moat]

This is perfect

[shy marlin]

It's a worse version of it's 1h enchanted sisters and 10 fire dmg from a flaming sword is just silly

[light moat]

I bash Dyrnwyn because I love it, it’s my 2nd favorite weapon in the game 😭

[shy marlin]

It's 3.6 roentgen, not great, but not terrible

[undone forum]

True but its still one of my favorite weapons

[rotund parrot]

My 2nd favorite after the thunder sword

[sonic drum]

my dyrnwyn sits around collecting dust atm, i hope its going to be more useful going forward

[undone forum]

I think my top 5 are;
Dyrnwyn
Slayer
Crystal Battleaxe
Lighting Berserkir Axes
Himminafl

[shy marlin]

Is this factoring in aesthetics + mechanics?

[rotund parrot]

For previous attempt on very hard I tried to switch my playstyle, to atgeirs, bows and no shield but it's just not what I am comfortable with, trying it with sword and shield this time. I just need to be aware of which enemies I can't parry

[undone forum]

Looks, if I was factoring functionality in it would look much different

[vocal rivet]

Which Slayer?

[undone forum]

Hmmm, kinda forgot about the versions

[shy marlin]

Blood slayer 🤙

[undone forum]

The lightning one in terms of looks for sure, blood for functionality

[pliant hatch]

There's only one Slayer 🤘

[light moat]

1. Frostner
2. Dyrnwyn
3. Iron battleaxe
4. Raw slayer
5. Berserker axes
   Honorable mention- huntsman bow

[undone forum]

Looks or functionality?

[vocal rivet]

Ooh, don't see too many fellow bloodstone users.

[tacit crystal]

Only weapon I use bloodstone version is Slayer usually (in normal runs).

[light moat]

Overall

[pliant hatch]

Are you screaming "Reign of blood" while using it?

[sonic drum]

i dont mind the axes with the bloodstone, 1h sword and bow with lightning though

[rotund parrot]

Unless you are trying to kill a boss with it, intentionally taking damage or do 1 hit with it after you ate and are super low hp, I don't see the point for functionality, it's just worst damage than lighting

[real charm]

thinking about starting up a server with some mods anyone down to join ?

[undone forum]

#1024264966712340510

[real charm]

oh my bad

[undone forum]

All good

[sonic drum]

at full hp fair, but when im expecting to be taking dmg i dont mind the ramp in dmg as i take more dmg

[last elm]

My fps is so bad rn that the game is literally unplayable. 10-15 fps

[pliant hatch]

Are you at your main base, perhaps?

[last elm]

I was in the black forest far away and it was bad then portaled to my main base and it was still bad

[pliant hatch]

The most common cause for an FPS drop may be having lots of instances at your world.

Which usually means: lots of terraforming, building lots of decorations and things like that.

If you haven't that, there may be another cause, but it'll be complicated to figure that out.
Only other suggestion I could give you is to save, exit, check if windows or another program isn't running too much in the background and if it isn't start again.
Even rebooting your machine may help.

[last elm]

Just booted up a new world and it was still at 10-15 fps. Reset the pc 3 times already and updated drivers as well

[sonic drum]

you using mods by chance?

[last elm]

Nah

[sonic drum]

using steam overlay or anything like that?

[last elm]

Only Nvidia

[sonic drum]

try ending that see if that helps

[last elm]

That didn't help. Might just reset my windows ngl

[sonic drum]

hmm you shouldnt be having that big of an fps loss even with a lot of building pieces my current main base is over 22k instances and where i feel the fps loss its not THAT bad

[rocky silo]

ahhhhhhhhh where is this months update

[sonic drum]

ppl are on vacation atm

[last elm]

It was fine last night when I played. Haven't played since then

[merry pebble]

There might not be one 🙂 they are not guaranteed to come every month, and devs are/were on vacation

[sonic drum]

have you installed anything new or updated anything recently?

[last elm]

Nope

Hopped on the pc, watched some yt, then booted valheim

[sonic drum]

anything running in the background?

[last elm]

Nope, checked task manager

[sonic drum]

odd

[last elm]

Yeah

[sonic drum]

idk what to tell you then tbh, most times i have fps issues is from things in the back ground running or certain mods.

by chance (long shot) do you have a creature farm of some sort that uses pufferfish?

[last elm]

Nope, literally just got out of the bronze age so I got nothing fancy

[sonic drum]

yea then idk =/

[median ibex]

Black Metal Atgeir...
Not a fan of Swords or Daggers, so... Polearm time again.
Last used one in my Bronze Age

[undone forum]

You could always go axes and get the amazing crystal battle axe

Or if you want to make life hard, spears

[median ibex]

I've already been using the Crystal Battleaxe, but wanted to go up the tier.
This is my first playthrough, so... wanted to use Black Metal to at least try it.

[undone forum]

Oh, excuse me I misread

Atgiers are fun though

[light moat]

1000 hours in, and I’ve still yet to use an atgeir 🤔

[shy marlin]

Took me 4k to touch knives

[median ibex]

I've basically been sticking to the two handed weapons for the most part.
Any two handed weapon is peak.

[light moat]

Really want knives to be my primary weapon next playthrough. I want to do a stereotypical ‘rogue’ play style, see what kind of shenanigans I can do with the sneak skill lol

[last elm]

About 40 hours in and I've only used the mace

[light moat]

Just about done with my currently playthrough, me and a friend are just about to wrap up Ashlands. Magic has been pretty fun actually.

[light moat]

Haha that was my first weapon type of choice! It’s a solid option

[light snow]

Oh hey im currently posting a series on that its totally doable on normal

[shy marlin]

that gjall clip 💀

[light moat]

Oh? I’ll have to check it out while I milk the clock at work

[last elm]

Most other weapons just don't feel as good to use. Might be because my club skill is much higher though

[light snow]

I got a sneak hit on a gjalls belly with skol and hati for 2.4k

[light moat]

WHAT I just found that Gjall clip, what the heck?? That was nuts!!

[shy marlin]

honestly it's peak knife gaming

[light moat]

Was it at full health??

[light snow]

Yes not aggrod

I think i hit it 1580 on that one and it has 1500 hp

[light moat]

I’m crashing out right now, that kill was freaking crazy!

[light snow]

Nice thing about knife only run is you can get the skill lvl to 100 real fast

I had lvl 75 on abyssal razor and 100 before getting a black forge

[light moat]

I’m fired up, I mm excited to use knives now 😂
But there’s no way in hell I’ll be pulling of something like that LOL

[light snow]

Drakes are probs the most annoying

Have to kite to the mini fir trees so they fly low right up to you then BAM. I sent you a montage

[shy marlin]

All this to say: Knives = cool

[light moat]

Ah, so you’re literally only using knives? I was playing using bows as well because I’m not a true gamer 😂
Haven’t gotten the montage yet 👀

Oh Nevermind, I got it!

[light snow]

Very doable on normal mode

You got this 🤙

[light moat]

Damn, those secondary attacks! Your timing is spot on!

Really nice display of that weapon type

[median ibex]

Next goal is to set up a Plains farm...

Gotta make some stone walls first

Gonna need lots of Flax...

[paper marsh]

criminally underated weapon

[paper marsh]

I'm going for a bit of a rogue playstyle because I really like the feel of knives and sneaking up on enemies. Even though Valheim sneaking / detection feels a bit ehh to me.

I'm not just doing knives, but I'm prioritizing like knives/spears/axes

and a bunch of light armor

[light moat]

Oh nice! Yeah, sneaking is definitely just decent at best. It’s not bad though.

[steel mica]

Barley and Flax gives you a totaly of 2 each harvest

in total you get 1 so keep farming

[fossil delta]

Its paying off to play around in the Mistlands prior to finishing the plains, and beating Yag. We have built up hundreds of Magecaps and Jotun Puffs, 3 stacks of hare meat, similar for Hare hides, killed a few seekers, couple of soldiers, and 4 gjall, and got a trophy for the soldier and gjall already. We found a nice set of ribs, so have a lot of black marble already. Only way it could get better is if we can find extractors to put on all the roots we already have very easily located. IE right on the edge of a plain, a couple even going into the plains. We even discovered we can plant magecap on vertical surfaces. Our first tiny Mistlands piece of land has yet to produce anything dangerous. Just Hare, and a nice safe farm area. The lox and squittos are the main reason we have so much Hare supplies. So yeah, despite how much I hate being blinded by the Mists, its working out well.

[unreal pike]

I don't rely on sight much in mistlands unless I go up high for vantage point. Most the times I use audio cues to tell me where an infested mine is

[tame socket]

Is it just me or is Moder really underwhelming

[little orchid]

Hey, I'd like to start over and maybe some people are interested in playing with me? Please send me a message in German. 30-60 min start time.

[tacit crystal]

Her AI is messy, which causes those situations.

[tame socket]

Also why 7 forsaken but 8 biomes

[sonic drum]

last biome isnt finished

[kindred orchid]

what kinda gear should we be getting for the third boss did the second one alright but struggled a little

[tacit crystal]

Do you want straight spoilers or hints?

[kindred orchid]

just a general idea what kinda stuff we should be bringing

[tacit crystal]

You've been in Swamps already I assume. One specific mead against specific damage type some of the swamp enemies deal is helpful against the boss too. And certain weapon type that some enemies especially are weak against.

Also, prepare best foods and armor you can get.

[kindred orchid]

we know where a swamp is haven’t searched yet right now we’ve mostly got bronze and troll hide armour i’ll have a look at meads rn thanks

[tacit crystal]

Ah, so you're just venturing there. Take your time and have the Elder drop with you when you go there, since swamps have constant environmental challenge (always rainy) go with calm pace and keep some stamina meads with you just in case. Avoiding being too much in water is also good idea.

Seems like you have good enough gear, but note that going from black forest to swamp is higher jump in difficulty than going from meadows to black forest.

[storm scaffold]

wtf treasure chest isnt functional??????

[tacit crystal]

The buildable one? It's just for looks.

[storm scaffold]

damn

[kindred orchid]

yeah thanks man we just got core wood so that’s some upgrades on our weapons and stuff already should be safe enough with the meads haven’t checked them out before but i’ll look now

[tacit crystal]

Just in case you haven't made any, you can craft mead bases in mead ketill (tin, copper and leather scraps) and put the bases in fermenter (bronze, finewood and resin) and wait around 1,5-2 ingame days. They are found in crafting section in building hammer selection.

One base will produce 6 meads after fermenting.

[lime fractal]

i want play with anyone

[tacit crystal]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 is where you can look up for company.

[paper marsh]

She's a HUGE stepup in damage compared to the bosses before her, which can have people struggling against her

But at the end of the day its just about your playstyle and which boss you find more difficult. imo the bosses in general aren't hard at all, and what's more dangerous than boss fights is just being ganged up on by a group of enemies especially 2 star ones

[summer hinge]

I hate fighting bonemass for that reason. Istg I always get swarmed by starred dragur archers every time I fight it

[maiden granite]

🥲

Guess I was always lucky, Bonemass was easiest among the first 3 (excluding Eikthyr)

[undone forum]

Imo, Eikthyr isn't a boss

[maiden granite]

Tutorial Boss 🙂

[undone forum]

When you are first starting out, a troll is harder to deal with the Eikthyr

[vocal rivet]

Of course he's a boss. And of course the mini boss is tougher than the boss from the previous biome.

[undone forum]

Fair enough

[vocal rivet]

Yup.

[nocturne wolf]

A boss should at least be stronger than regular enemies in the next biome though

[fast ravine]

Hello ^^. Is there some way to find people to play with? Does this server have a "player search" Channel somewhere?

[open pecan]

#1024264966712340510 is your best bet!

[fast ravine]

Thanks bro, appreaciate ^^

[vocal rivet]

It is.

[open pecan]

You bet. Hope you find a good one!

[undone forum]

Other than the troll but I wouldn't consider the troll to be a regular enemy

[nocturne wolf]

How are trolls not regular enemies?

They're certainly not minibosses, spawning everywhere and with no coloured name.

[undone forum]

To me regular is something that you fight often, if you aren't actively looking for trolls you aren't exactly fighting them as much as a greydwarf

[paper marsh]

Speak for yourself I have several trolls showing up to my house every 30 minutes

[undone forum]

Then again, I'm not sure what you would call them

[paper marsh]

Most people call them the brutes of the biome

Which I think is fitting (despite a bit of confusion that there is also a "greydwarf brute"

[vocal rivet]

Minibosses. Same as abominations, stone golem, Fuling brutes etc....

[paper marsh]

Minibosses gives me hildr boss vibes

[nocturne wolf]

If those are minibosses, what would you call the group of enemies in hildir dungeons and lord reto?

[paper marsh]

Alright final suggestion for naming trolls:

Trolls

[vocal rivet]

Also minibosses? I don't see the confusion.

[open pecan]

It's all named vs. unnamed. If a Fuling Brute shows up with a name tag that says "Jeff" then good news, he's a mini-boss.

[paper marsh]

Now I want a fuling brute named Jeff :/

[merry pebble]

Minibosses are just the 3 from hildir + Reto imo 🤷‍♂️
Trolls, Aboms, Golems, Lox, Gjall and Morgens (+maybe Fallen Valkyries?) are "troll lvl" in my head
And brutes of any kind are just that, brutes. Stronger variant of the common enemy from the biome.

[light moat]

I’ve always just called them ‘big guys’ in my head

[shy marlin]

[lapis jay]

🛣️

[kindred orchid]

i’m thinking i need a little more than bronze for the swamp

getting 3 hit with level 2 bronze on

[shy marlin]

What food are you using?

[kindred orchid]

queens jam deer and boar

[tacit crystal]

You might want to upgrade your meats, also have you found carrot seeds?

[kindred orchid]

just got carrot seeds

we can make boar jerky

[tacit crystal]

Okay, start farming. They unlock some new foods.

[kindred orchid]

yeah we’ll start it up now

[tacit crystal]

Also, what mostly kills you?

[kindred orchid]

the graudr idk how to spell

the ghost people

[fossil delta]

One thing about Valheim, never go into the new biome at night. Not until you get a good feel for what is going on in the biome. Every biome is potentially much deadlier at night.

[tacit crystal]

Yeah (draugr), they pack some punch, but their attacks can be predicted quite fast after observing a bit.

[light moat]

Make sure you keep your rested buff, having constant rain gives you the wet debuff, and managing your stamina is crucial

[kindred orchid]

we’ll make some stamina meads that’s what catches us

running out of stamina is what kills us

[fossil delta]

The swamp is probably the hardest to travel in, due to the wet debuff and constantly having to travel through water. Then, when you go in at night, it gets even deadlier. More of the starred creatures spawn, and you meet a new enemy or two in the swamp.

Which only appears at night.

Also, keep an eye out for flowers. They are hard to spot in the swamp environment. Its a new flower, so a new food source.

[kindred orchid]

i’ll go check out that flower rn

we’ve got portals set up so getting there and back isn’t a problem

[tacit crystal]

Those flowers found in swamp might be bit harder to spot than the carrot seed flowers. But they are very important for further food progression.

[weary flower]

On xbox about to start a new. Anyone have a new world I can join? Would rather play with others

[open pecan]

#1024264966712340510 has what you're looking for, lad.

[obsidian abyss]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Eikthyr
here what is 1000 pickaxe damage meaning. eikthyr??

[open pecan]

Damage against rocks/terrain perhaps?

[obsidian abyss]

got it thanks

[median ibex]

Just fought off my first Fuling Raid
T'was spooky

[merry pebble]

Rocks and structures that do take pickexe dmg, terrain itself can be only damaged by one enemy in the whole game 😄

[open pecan]

I include things like trees in terrain but I take your point.

[bronze cairn]

valheim is the heim of val :D

[tacit crystal]

You fought them with Crystal battleaxe, right? #memes-and-clips message

[median ibex]

I'm using the Black Metal Atgeir at this point.

Honestly, I think I would've preferred my Crystal Battleaxe though lmao

[tacit crystal]

Atgeir is definitely good. But battleaxe is

[shy marlin]

Knives = cool

[nocturne wolf]

[undone forum]

Currently doing a knives run, then will switch to magic for the first time once I hit the mistlands. Knives are probably one of my favorite weapon classes

[shy marlin]

Solid a tier for me personally

S being atgeir sword bow

[quasi latch]

battleaxe wins, end of story

crossbow for the alpha volley

[shy marlin]

Baxe a tier highest possible

[rotund parrot]

I seem to use the bow a lot more than usual on very hard, Im at level 50 already on day 50 or so

It's about to go a whole lot higher as I am entering the plain and will probably use it as much as possible

[rotund parrot]

The huntmans bow is amazing for fuling camps

[shy marlin]

yup, very surgical

[median ibex]

We need Mistland and Ashland tier Battleaxes.

🙏

[open pecan]

And fists. 🙏🏻

[merry pebble]

Any new fist weapons would be very much welcome 😄 same as battleaxes

[light moat]

#BattleaxeGang

A legendary lightning battleaxe would be a solid fit for the Mistlands, maybe even utilizing a thunderstone for one of the materials 🤔

[open pecan]

As long as the Mistlands Battleaxe isn't Jotunesque.

[merry pebble]

We already have a lightning weapon there tho 🤔
Iirc there was someone proposing the Jotuns bane to be made into battle axe, which i think would look quite cool 😄

[shy marlin]

Maybe H*rvor would use an actual good weapon then

[light moat]

Oh right, the himmimmimmfl! How could I forget

[dark coyote]

they need to slightly reduce the movespeed penalty and slightly increase the initial swing speed of battleaxe, imo

[merry pebble]

They dont need to do anything 😄 but that would certainly make them more viable.

[light moat]

What Irongate *NEEDS is food and water

[dark coyote]

yeah no one "needs" to make good games, I don't "need" to bathe, etc

[vagrant pasture]

I need Deep North

[pliant hatch]

Well, that means you need to be patient.

[vagrant pasture]

😂👍

[steel mica]

we NEED it so that we can equip rocky as a hat on top of our viking heads

[median ibex]

We already have the Himminafl for lightning, so... maybe a fiery Battleaxe?

[steel mica]

Theres already a weapon with a fire stat

the one and only torch

jk its in the last biome

[median ibex]

Yeah, I know, but they mentioned Mistlands specifically.

[steel mica]

Hm, its hard to fit in the mistlands

[median ibex]

I think before anything combat related though, regular axes should be buffed.
They deserve to be good in a Norse themed game.

[covert iris]

The spawning and enemy targeting absolutely ruins the new player experience.

I've been playing with a friend and I swear we spend most of the time running/fighting enemies and can hardly catch a break.

Why am I having to build a moat for my base just to manage inventory? I shit you not there are at least 8 smaller dudes, and 2 shamans outside my base right now going ballistic. What is this?

[chrome badge]

They respond to deforestation, the forest fights back essentially. If you're felling trees or chopping bushes, you're likely going to be targeted.

[covert iris]

Oh yeah, so just don't play the game. I see. I'll keep that in mind. I don't stay in any particular area either.

[chrome badge]

I'm just letting you know that managing your inventory isn't a cause, and once you've cleared the enemies you should have a break for quite a while.

They're the easiest mobs to fight, and if they're causing frustration maybe you could lower the difficulty setting.

[covert iris]

A while meaning like 2 seconds? Because I'll clear a wave only to have another come right back, same thing goes for gather resources.

It's just a slog, and feels like I'm being punished for playing the game.

It'd be like if there was a requirement to press a button combo every 3 minutes because "its gameplay" the enemies themselves (the grayling(?)) aren't interactive to fight either.

Sorry to complain, I do like aspects of the game, the raid system & enemy spawn system just irk me.

[chrome badge]

It can depend on where you've built up, if you're directly next to a black forest, that can cause some additional enemies to lurk around. You might consider relocating if it seems rampant, though in my experience it is never as bad as you're describing, and it likely just some bad luck or fellow players have lead many enemies to the outskirts of your base.

[covert iris]

Definitely the case of making it worse than it is for sure, just never played a game with a system like this. Closest I've gotten to survival is Minecraft, so nothing to compare it to really. I appreciate your responses and time !

[median ibex]

Also, I'm assuming you have Bronze, right?
If so, Bronze Atgeir or Bronze Buckler + Bronze Sword should make it significantly easier to cut through multiple enemies.

[covert iris]

No, no bronze. I have just gotten a knife so far. I saw there was a raft, took that and sailed super far

[chrome badge]

Not to worry, progressing will truly make everything you're experiencing a non-issue, and these enemies also drop supplies you'll need a lot of, so they're passively saving you some time going out and looking for it(if you want to think optimistically that is 😅)

[median ibex]

I'd recommend you both using a Wood Shield and Flint Spear, then.
Should be your highest DPS option before Bronze, which should let you take care of Greydwarves much more easily. Also, turns Trolls into a breeze.

[past sphinx]

where was that raft

[chrome badge]

Assuming they just meant they saw it in the crafting menu

[past sphinx]

does flint respawn after a while

[plush umbra]

yes

[covert iris]

I made jt

[fossil delta]

Well, I finally found a pet rock. Now I have to wonder how many of these things I have passed by.

[wet locust]

I need a pet rock. Where do I find this plushie 🥺

Also, I’d totally buy it if it was actually in the merchandise store

might get the frostner necklace

[tacit crystal]

Yes, been saying that. #fanart message

[shy marlin]

👀 we got an artist over here

[tacit crystal]

Nah, it's just Paint sketch.

[shy marlin]

Better than I could do

[fossil delta]

We found a strange looking rock laying on the ground. It looked different from the hundreds, if not thousands of others we have seen. We picked it up and got a recipe... We found it in a Black Forest.

[covert iris]

How do you make a moat?

[tacit crystal]

Pickaxe.

[rain flare]

And start digging 😂

[devout python]

Just got attacked by 4 trolls...we're only two, I'm definitely digging too

[rain flare]

LoL 😂
Happened to my friend and I the first time we played

So of course we diggy diggied a nice deep hole 😂

[sterile dagger]

what up chat

[covert iris]

I for some reason thought it was the flatten terrain option 😅 I appreciate the clarification

[tacit crystal]

Both pickaxe and hoe are used for terraforming but only pickaxe can dig deep.

[median ibex]

I think I might make the switch to magic when I get to the Mistlands

[wet locust]

Thanks boss!

[violet canyon]

hey, so i started to collect all trophies since i finished the game cause i just wanted to have all
but i feel like i am missing a trophy here? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/810572761310691379/1398282813911859240/image.png?ex=6884cbd9&is=68837a59&hm=9d6993f461fe6dc0bb00f31908bf3c79a8ada2e4315366509adb10248214bd68&

[light moat]

I don’t think that spot has a trophy at the moment 🤔

[violet canyon]

oh okay, ty :)

[flat vector]

Valheim...
Amirite fellas

[rain flare]

One of us!
One of us!!! 🥳

[median ibex]

I hope the combat update introduces weapon types to other biome tiers.
Like... a Black Metal Battleaxe, or an elemental Battleaxe in the Mistlands, Silver 2h Sword, Black Metal 2h Sword, etc.
But I imagine that'd be a lot to ask for.

[near furnace]

alot to ask yes

[median ibex]

Yeeaahh.
I guess I'm just super bias towards 2h weapons.

[near furnace]

one point is not to overwhelm the players with options to start with...

[median ibex]

I suppose that's fair, but I was definitely bummed when I discovered there was no Battleaxe option after the Mountains/Silver-tier.

[rain flare]

At least the crystal axe is still viable in ashlands
Probably not so much in deep north

Unless those mobs are gonna take spirit damage… 🤔

[median ibex]

Well, I guess a more realistic hope for the combat update is for regular Axes to get buffed.
I'd love to see the multi target penalty removed from 2h Swords, as well.

[shy marlin]

Yea I really hope they shift 2h swords and 1h swords with mtp and cleavae

[median ibex]

Honestly I don’t mind 1h Swords retaining no mtp, since it then gives more space to work with Axes to differentiate them. If 1h Axes retain mtp while 1h Swords retain not having mtp, then it allows space to make Axes something else instead of just another 1h slash weapon.

[shy marlin]

1h Swords with mtp are already better than 1h axe tho

[median ibex]

I know, I guess my point is more so that if there’s that difference, then it allows more radical changes to other areas, perhaps damage and stagger numbers, to differentiate.

(I usually have trouble displaying my thoughts as words, so lemme know if I'm not making sense)

[light moat]

Oop, that’s my queue 👀
#suggestions message

[kindred orchid]

just been ganked by a leviathan tryna get to a boss 💔

[median ibex]

Looking at the numbers, 1h Axe secondary attack is really bad... :(

[shy marlin]

I think it's more used for hitting logs that you can't really hit with the primary

1h axes just aren't a combat weapon

[median ibex]

I really think they deserve to be good in a game based around Norse mythology.
Axes are likely the first thing people think of when they hear "Viking".

[shy marlin]

I also hope combat update gives more visual clarity on weaknesses/resistances

Like fire arrow burn tick showing yellow on growths

[merry pebble]

It shows something else now? 🤔

[shy marlin]

It shows white

[merry pebble]

Ah

[last elm]

Would I need to back up my world on a flash drive if I reset my computer?

[merry pebble]

If you have saves on cloud then no

[last elm]

Ok

[near furnace]

that's exactly why that secondary attack exists

[merry pebble]

It had only primary for some time 😄

[near furnace]

yup

[merry pebble]

I dont remember now, was it H&H which added the secondary? 🤔

[near furnace]

no clue

probably

[shy marlin]

Mistlands

[merry pebble]

Hooly... You are right! I would swear it was added sooner. 👀

[near furnace]

ah

my brain is super-fried after this last week

I just remember it was my idea since I hate to leave stumps behind I cannot cut 😄

[merry pebble]

Tbh i rarely ever found a stump i culdnt get with primary

But there were few 😄

[tacit crystal]

Mistlands update added secondary to 1h axes.

Just to back up Scales.

[merry pebble]

👍

[tacit crystal]

I recall hoping 1h axes would get secondary attack that goes downwards, as opposite of maces that go upwards, then Mistlands update added it. I know it's not as effective for combat but the secondary hit looks cool after parrying an enemy.

[nocturne wolf]

It could at least be 2x damage instead of 1.5

[fierce gust]

Hi all! is there someone that can help me getting thru the mistlands? 🙂

[fossil delta]

You will likely need to find them on one of the servers in #1024264966712340510

[fierce gust]

thanks!

[shadow remnant]

Ok, I need to build a house but I'm not sure how it should look

[quasi latch]

Check out the #1202313621351440385 category

[candid basalt]

Should have walls, door, roof, vent for smoke.

[loud finch]

Where’s the party people at

[vocal rivet]

The party, presumably.

[keen raptor]

we're too busy appeasing odin

[vocal prism]

I tried staff of the wild on the Queen. That staff is completely OP

[fossil delta]

My wife and I finally sailed into the Mistlands proper. Found a nice Dvergr dock with friendly Dvergr on it. My wife immediately started drawing seeker in to try to kill them all. I don't want to. Yet. So I didn't remind her of the stock of puffer fish I had accumulated for us back home. So eventually we sailed off, back into oceans, and found and killed a few serpents instead of the nice Dvergr's. The devs really need to set it up so we can just buy the extractors from them, instead of our having to arrange their deaths.

Maybe have it come up for sale after we beat Yag, along with the other items that show up, at one of the 3 vendors we now have..

Just some way so I can choose to not be an assassin.

[buoyant panther]

You can vote for the suggestion:
#suggestions message

[fossil delta]

Yeah, thats not what I am suggesting. I guess I will have to submit my own.

[vocal rivet]

Just being able to buy everything does rather just take the challenge out of things.

[buoyant panther]

I think this is the oldest buy-only/non-quest suggestion that survived the Discord reset if you want to vote on it: #suggestions message

[fossil delta]

I submitted my own, thanks!

[fossil delta]

Plenty of players will still chose to just kill them off, instead of pay the coin. I just want the choice.

[light moat]

Dvergr have ware if you have coin 🪙

[fossil delta]

Yep. Exactly. 😄

I imagine just enabling one of the vendors to sell them would be the easiest way, but it would be cool if they can make a Dvergr at each site be able to sell it.

[vocal rivet]

Money is just too easy to get at that point.

[fossil delta]

I don't disagree, I just know most people will still chose killing them over paying them. I mean, thats what we all do right now. Kill them, directly or indirectly. Most probably won't stop, and spend the coin. Maybe they will surprise me...

[nocturne wolf]

Why would a player choose to kill them instead of spending an item they’ve likely had too much of since black forest? It would need to be something more challenging to obtain.

[fossil delta]

We all justify killing them now. How many would take the coin option? I'd love to find out. I just know I'd like the coin option, and thats how I would obtain my extractors. Even with all the vendor items we currently have, I still have about 10,000 coin sitting in my coin chest. Thats with me not plundering every tomb, or wiping out every fuling village like I used to.

[nocturne wolf]

So wiping out every fuling village is ok but not the dvergr?

[fossil delta]

The fuling are arseholes, and try to kill me. The Dvergr are nice, and will even fight things for me. No comparison in my mind.

[vocal prism]

It's just pixels. I promise they don't feel anything

[nocturne wolf]

Maybe the fulings already know you want to steal from them and the dvergr are just too stupid

[fossil delta]

The fuiings attack us on sight. The Dvergr do not. Unless we steal or attack them. Still no comparison.

[vocal prism]

Dvergr outposts often contain a Dvergr Component Crate. This is usually a wooden wagon with boxes on it, sometimes near a skull or other Dvergr structure. You can also find it in crates on top of their towers. If you want to run around avoiding fighting them you can absolutely get them that way. You just have to run around like a madman while trying to break it

[fossil delta]

Some of us like having a moral choice. Heck, I even recall people trying to do passive play throughs. No idea if they succeeded. I cannot imagine how they were able to. I get that they are just "pixels" and feel and think nothing. I'd just like a "nice" option, for dealing with nice people.

[vocal rivet]

Are those last pictures in #building-screenshots REALLY modded as the emotes claim? I don't see it.

[shy marlin]

Can you build in the center of the world like that?

Don't think vanilla behavior allows for that

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, I'm not sure how close you can get to the stones. Maybe that's it. Doesn't... really bother me though.

[livid zenith]

I think you can place structures there using commands

[plush umbra]

PoIs and spawned objects yea, but i don't think there's any way to allow you to normally build there
(pretty sure those haldor and hildir placements are also either impossible or unintuitive with the spawn command)

-# still i don't think that's worth policing

[tacit crystal]

No way that close without mods or placing with console commands.

[vocal rivet]

Fair enough. I'm really not much of a builder and hadn't tried it.

[sonic drum]

wouldnt be able to terraform (stone paths) in the center without mods as well

[tacit crystal]

Gotta go check how close. I'd recall building something as close as possible in one or two of my worlds.

[steel mica]

Ive just been building... and building... and building... and building

its never ends

Deforestation after deforestation

stone nodes after stone nodes

resources are still lacking

[shy marlin]

Tough

You have a tree farm?

[steel mica]

Nope

All hand scavenged from different biomes

the most demanding resource at the moment is stone and wood

wood specifically I need alot

[turbid lotus]

Have you tried using one of those Greydwarf spawners?

[steel mica]

takes too long before I could get alot vs manually getting them is quick and you get alot more

It would have been nice having my base near one gredwarf spawner but I already decided my base location

[merry pebble]

You can afk at them tho 😄

[steel mica]

You can but 90% of the time im at my main base

plus its not my laptop its my brothers lol so I cant afk

maybe in the next playthrough I might make my main base in the bf near one

Its just the portal hub lasty that im working on and the rest of the base are mostly decorational and aesthetic

see the #building-screenshots for the progression

[turbid lotus]

That's really big. So that's why you need a lot of wood.

I think the fastest way to get wood is using a troll as free labor.

Just like mining.

[merry pebble]

Elder is faster 😄

[shy marlin]

I'd invest in that, can easily get 2 carts worth of wood in 20 min

[summer jay]

@turbid lotus

[turbid lotus]

?

[shy marlin]

He just sent me a friend request idk 🤨

[turbid lotus]

Same.

[quasi latch]

Oak trees my beloved

[thorny inlet]

Do surtling spawners usually spawn in groups? Cus I got 3 right next to each other that normal or just convenient

[vagrant pasture]

¿Is there a console command to disable Mistland's mist temporarly? I would like to take some pictures/screenshots without the mist 😬

[hidden gorge]

I wouldn't say usually, but rather always. I've never seen them not in a group of three

[thorny inlet]

Thx was just wondering

[steel mica]

I do plan making my old plains base into a tree farm

But that would take such a long time because alot of terraforming

[fossil delta]

I've done a couple of builds that felt like that. Been a couple of years since I last did any of those.

[steel mica]

Building takes up like 60% of your time playing valheim

[fossil delta]

At one point it took up more than that, but now I do pretty minimal building when I play through. Just what I need.

A friend and I did a couple of pretty big Mistlands builds, but those were my last big builds.

[steel mica]

I still have plans to make multiple other bases

But as of rn my priority is my main base

my others bases like my mistland farm, ashland fort are pretty much done id just want to do some rebuilding for builds lacking detail

[fossil delta]

You posting pics in any of the channels here?

NVM, I found them. Those are pretty big.

[steel mica]

lol

[steel mica]

Heres my mistlands base if you're curious

#screenshots message

[north inlet]

I've played Valheim in chunks (2-3 months, break for 2-3 months) and whenever there has been a big update, a new biom, I've started fresh. Last time I quit I said I was going to wait for the full release but I just can't... I need my Valheim fix! What do I need to think about regarding the last biom update? Not sure I want to start fresh this time. Is it as simple as just not going far north? I've heard stories about some players builds that has been effected because of a update even though it was build in one of the early bioms. Anyhting to be worried about? If it matters, I always build small as possible, I'm not a huge castle builder with large crops.

[nocturne wolf]

If they’re not in or next to the deep north your builds will be ok.

[north inlet]

So it is as simple as I thought. Cheers!

[pure lantern]

wen petch

[vocal rivet]

We don't know. Not for a while yet.

[strong beacon]

anyone wannna play?

[near furnace]

yeah. just don't go up there, since it will usually prevent terraforming and some things to spawn in the desired number(s) 😄

[wooden depot]

hey. been looking for the mod that gives you a much smaller smelter and coal production can not find it, obviously because i am using the wrong search words, anyone?

[near furnace]

🙂

asatru knows the way

[merry pebble]

Folks in #mods-discussion might have an idea 😄

[wooden depot]

yer was looking for a quick answer as i am wasting time pulling hair out

[near furnace]

sorry 😄

no quick answers here

[wooden depot]

? why are you talking nonsense, just wondering. I am just asking if anyone knows of the top of their heads, its not a mod question its just for a name, like what is the best weapon to kill a certain mob. People can get frustrated when things don't work out, It never helps when THAT guy on the forum etc. just starts rambling silliness.

[lunar sapphire]

The best channel to get advice for mod-specific questions is the #mods-discussion channel / and #mods-issues. Asking outside of those channels is not going to give you the answer you're looking for.

If nobody is replying you'll just have to wait, or keep looking through google 👍

[near furnace]

Hello. I am Valheims community manager and not a random that guy on discord 😄

[light moat]

#screenshots message @lusty turret did you hide a surtling trophy inside these cultists trophies? 🤔

[vocal rivet]

That's what it says. Looks cool I think.

[wooden depot]

matey to me you are just some guy on the web. simple as that! you have no special powers and i did not vote you into government office. Anyway my mom says I'm special and I believe her.

[near furnace]

well. I see you're fishing but I ain't going to bite on that obvious trap 🙂

[shy marlin]

Lmao

[near furnace]

Time to enjoy some F1 recap 🙂

[wooden depot]

I'm frustrated and old, bad combination. Banter always make things better

[analog jackal]

Is there any graphics setting that could improve the "redness" of my bloodstone splitnir? Cause i feel like it just doesn't look as red as it should, but that's just nitpicking on my end haha

[steel mica]

not much really

just max your graphics and enjoy the best you can get

[analog jackal]

Yeah, i was also looking up some texture mods but i feel like the modding for the game has gone quiet, can't find much new things

[vocal rivet]

I'm sure people can suggest something. The modding scene is alive and kicking.

[steel mica]

The best you can really do in vanilla is just turning on bloom

Dont max out your graphics unless you have a god-tier pc

Max graphics will eat your fps on low end laptop/computers

[analog jackal]

Bloom helps a bit, fps is no issue on max for me

[steel mica]

Then max that baby out for maximum atmosphere

[analog jackal]

The thing with the splitnir is mostly on the texture side anyways

[steel mica]

I havent crafted the splitnir myself but the particle effects on the weapons are already pretty nice

[analog jackal]

Yes yes, the only weapon that just lacks the color is the red splitnir imo, has the particles but doesn't glow

I love when games give you a variety of choices for something like combat though

[shy marlin]

Made it to ashlands in no armor no metal perma surely nothing will go wrong in the next few hours of gameplay 🤙

[steel mica]

please get jumpscared by a lava blob

that aside goodluck, ashland is a warzone

[lusty turret]

Yeah! Just put two item stands basically on top of each other then mount the Surtling and Cultist trophies.

[tacit crystal]

Hmm, gotta ask about raids because I'm not 100% sure if my memory is correct:
Did skipping bosses prevent higher boss raids triggering? I just defeated Moder in my current run and got Horde raid very quickly after, but Bonemass is not defeated in my world. Does it just fill the requirements now that Moder is defeated and Horde raid can now be triggered, even when Bonemass isn't defeated (just and example)?

[nocturne wolf]

The horde raid only needs moder defeated and yagluth undefeated.

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, seems like I have been wrong for long time and it's always been like that or it was changed at some point.

[upper igloo]

Hey peeps, how are ya all and how is the game ? i last played when the mist land came out and i never made past the mist land

[open pecan]

Another biome after Mistlands is out so it's worth coming back.

[upper igloo]

yes i heard about it but i might struggle with mist land 😄

i found it exceptionally hard

[open pecan]

The biome after is even tougher so pack a lunch.

[tacit crystal]

Mostly it's about preparation and different approach compared to last biomes. The mist purposely restricts sight which makes cautiousness, going slowly and observing noices more important.

There are also the last biome patch upcoming (no timeline for that tho) and before that we get smaller update called "Combat update" that brings something regarding that, including slope fighting improvements.

[median ibex]

I heard Frostner helps with Mistlands before you start getting Mistland-tier weapons

[sharp bluff]

turning down the heavy metal also helps
supposedly

[fossil delta]

Hard to tell if that is bigger than ours was.

[bright canyon]

Freshie here, Hey I'm new to valheim and been really wanting to experience the game with some other people, anybody have any open servers or anything or looking to invite anyone to theirs ?

[fossil delta]

They would all be on #1024264966712340510

Read the rules pinned at the top.

They have a channel dedicated to pretty much anything for Valheim.

[bright canyon]

Thank you!

[shy marlin]

🤙

[flat vector]

Gotta say, love the game guys. Great job.

[steel mica]

look at the 4th screenshot

and look to the right you'll see my character

[rugged jungle]

hi any tips to defeat this root thing

nvmd i killed it after a few deaths

[nocturne wolf]

Abominations? The heavy branch attack won't hit you if you're too close to them so that's a great time to get some damage in.

[ivory crest]

anyone else having trouble joining their friends server

everytime i join its ether failed to connect or when i do load in nothings loading but the ground then i get disconnected

friend had the same issue when joining me in my world

[dark coyote]

@rugged jungle yeah just run under them, attack the rear legs

[near furnace]

sounds like a VPN issue

[ivory crest]

ooooohhh thats what that is??

cause yeah im using a vpn rn, i always have one on

[near furnace]

yeah... turn it of, or route valheims traffic outside of it

[ivory crest]

i see never knew thanks

[near furnace]

🫡

[sullen sluice]

Any tips for Immersive?

[shy marlin]

I made a map in paint lol

[fossil delta]

That or use a ton of fire arrows.

[nocturne wolf]

Any slash weapon will work well

[fossil delta]

Yeah, but I am always doing some degree of zero death run training, and doing melee greatly ups your chances of dying. Especially if you do not dodge roll or parry.

Now, if you have the iron wall shield, with iron axe, the abominations are pretty easy to take on.

[rugged jungle]

like i have 1k in soulslike games so i should do about right but as i can see no XD

[keen raptor]

Playing with no map or portals?

[bright canyon]

Anybody else play on steam deck?

[sullen sluice]

Yeah, no both

[turbid lotus]

Aren't fire arrows bad in the swamp, due to the rain?

[plush umbra]

(enemies don't actually get wet from rain, but they do get wet from submerging themselves in water, which swamps also have a lot of.)

[turbid lotus]

I see.

[keen raptor]

1. Learn how to navigate with the Yggdrasil root. The stem starts in the east and hangs toward the west. Whenever I’m not entirely sure what direction I’m going, my first instinct is to look up at the root.

2. Using a Vegvisir will rotate your character in the direction of the altar.

3. Your build piece maintains its rotation even after going through loading zones or unequipping your hammer. If you find a vegvisir in a dungeon, take out your hammer and rotate a build piece to the direction it points to. When you leave the dungeon it will point in the same direction.

4. Use perimeters to stay on track. Coastlines are the safest way to travel. You can also use the borders between two biomes.

5. The challenge entirely depends on how immersed you’re willing to get. You could build paths and outposts everywhere, setup nautical directions on every coastline, you could even draw your own map! It’s all up to how much time you’re willing to invest and how much fun you have building the world.

[turbid lotus]

Do they stay wet after leaving a body of water or do they instantly dry?

[plush umbra]

they stay wet for 2 minutes afaik

that said i'm pretty sure the weakness to fire that aboms have makes up for it when compared to other arrows dealing only pierce damage, which they're very resistant to

[turbid lotus]

True.

[mossy river]

Standing on top of a cryypt and killing aboms with fire arrows goes reasonably quick if they stick around. If they've been chasing you a while they might up and dart in a random direction though.

[crystal fjord]

If I tame a wolf and have it follow me, and I go through a portal what happens to the wolf? Does it stay put or start trying to path to where I went?

[mossy river]

Wolves have 3 behaviors. Follow, stay, or neither. If a wolf is following you and you step through a portal, it reverts to neither.

Neither means the wolf will go where it pleases and chase deer or whatever else for pretty much as long as it can, and they won't return to where they were once they calm down.

They won't re-follow if you step back through the portal.

[crystal fjord]

Thanks! I’ve clicked on a wolf a few times and all it says is follow or stay. Does the neither option only occur if I go thru portals?