valheim-chat

[ebon iris]

ah yea i did ask there was tryna play tn but no one's responding yet so

[onyx lava]

pm'ed you

[vocal rivet]

Well, it's the middle of the morning so give it a little while.

[ebon iris]

well im looking for like 2 people so

if anyone else wants

[livid mist]

I've just gotten back into the game, down to party

[ebon iris]

you wanna do a fresh start w us?

[livid mist]

I'm down

[ebon iris]

im in vc, whenever Phaedin get's back from cooking dinner we're finna start

[wintry valve]

whats the best monster around to train blocking?

[noble axle]

another player

[ancient agate]

Greydwarf spawners, IMO. The rock throws happen frequently enough without them doing something else or getting too distracted running away, but they are not very threatening

[noble axle]

any monsters will do tho prob some sort of spawners are best 🤷

[ancient agate]

I just make a spawner funnel 3 dwarfs into a hole and let them chuck rocks

[wintry valve]

I kinda hate that I have to "train" it so much it raises slowly otherwise

[noble axle]

🙂

[broken kraken]

How come trolls can smash birch trees but lox cannot?

[robust delta]

don't worry

it's only a matter of time before loxes can wield tree logs

but it will be a tough road, for trolls may have possess the knowledge to dual wield tree logs by the time they learn it

[stuck mulch]

I am doing a solo run and I am about to go to the ashlands

havent been there ever, but from the sound of it it sounds like a firey place

is frost magic good in that region?

[pliant radish]

maybe

[robust delta]

it's alright

[spiral tusk]

Is there a mod that changes the weapon attack mechanics to the old one? Will another game end up in the trash after the idiotic behavior of the creators?

[robust delta]

what old one?

[spiral tusk]

the one that was there from the beginning of the game

latest 4 years

[vocal rivet]

#mods-discussion might be the place to ask.

[spiral tusk]

ok. ty

[vocal rivet]

Though I don't see anything wrong with the current combat mechanics.

[mortal storm]

I'm not sure what they mean by the old weapon attack mechanics

cant recall a major change to how attacks work

[wintry valve]

omg I didnt know the charred archers could shotgun my face

[nocturne wolf]

What changed?

[spiral tusk]

the error is the new setting (when reinstalling the game) in the game settings in the keyboard and mouse tab was originally set: Attack - mouse 1, seconadry attack- mouse 1 = this settings crashed, the game look only for a seconadry attack, dont look a normal attack

[nocturne wolf]

Can’t you just change the key binds?

[vocal rivet]

So not a game change at all, there's simply something wrong with your keybindings?

And that's somehow 'idiotic behaviour of the devs'? Wow.

[spiral tusk]

If the game was working normally before, and after installing it on new hardware it no longer works as before, whose fault is it?

[vocal rivet]

Yours?

[spiral tusk]

xd

[vocal rivet]

I don't see how the game not changing at all is somehow an issue.

[mortal storm]

i do vaguely remember they changed some default keys but it was pretty easy to change them back

[spiral tusk]

so why change the original settings

[mortal storm]

i guess because its still in early access and they thought something might be better?

[nocturne wolf]

This is probably a bug that they haven’t noticed yet

[mortal storm]

or that

[spiral tusk]

just to make players irritated and not know what's going on?

[gray sand]

Games change during development?
Who knew....

Oh wait. Everyone who has ever played a game ever.

[spiral tusk]

is worrking, everything works normally, there was no problem

[vocal rivet]

Why on Earth would they do that?

[mortal storm]

they were being sarcastic

[vocal rivet]

Hard to tell.

[spiral tusk]

I don't know, I have no idea, on my old PC the game worked normally, and I didn't mess with the settings from the beginning, when I install the game on the new PC the key binding settings changed to the new ones, attack mechanics, building mechanics, dodging, only a move (W,S,A,D) in standard

[mortal storm]

yea thats a bit odd maybe a bug

[spiral tusk]

maybe we can talk about optimization? 🤣

[gray sand]

We can. It is a very short conversation though.

[wise latch]

Will we get 1.0 before or after the next elderscroll game comes out

[vocal rivet]

Who knows, is there even one planned?

[vocal rivet]

Almost every patch includes optimisation.

[merry pebble]

Did you perhaps rebind stuff to suit you better on the old PC and now it just returned to default?

[merry pebble]

We have no idea 🙂

[wise latch]

Well

At least the bees are happy

[tacit crystal]

Wouldn't mind if all 2h melee weapons had -10% movement speed penalty, since 1h weapon + shield usually have the same total.

[vocal rivet]

Makes sense.

[pliant radish]

noooo

atgier isn't two handed because its significantly heavier, its because you need 2 hands to wield it properly
thats my take on it at least

[nocturne wolf]

Nobody said anything about it being heavier, just reducing the movespeed a little

[pliant radish]

Like, the bow isn't a 10% penalty just because its 2 handed

[gray sand]

Bows are also OP AF 😉

[pliant radish]

thats true

[merry pebble]

I would look at it that this way, since atgeirs are quite large you need to be carefull how you move with it not to bump and catch on stuff with it, thus making you slower even tho Its not really that heavy 🙂

[pliant radish]

That only makes sense in tight spaces

[merry pebble]

Not really, with stuff this long you have to be carefull not to hit ground by accident, especially if Its a weapon and Its gonna be swinged around

[nocturne wolf]

It was suggested that atgeirs should be slower so they match the speed of 1h + shield, this has to do with the weight of the weapon or moving carefully

[tacit crystal]

Edited my initial comment, I meant melee weapons.

[merry pebble]

Oh yes, i just tried to give it some reason 🙂

[vocal rivet]

Heh, @near furnace will like this one. https://youtube.com/shorts/jI3biA60JD8

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/100-gif-25608868

[vocal rivet]

It's a YouTube short, it's safe.

[near furnace]

you say that 🤔

[vocal rivet]

You don't trust me?

[gray sand]

DANGER LINK IS DANGEROUS

[ebon iris]

hey what should I use to mod valheim

I see r2modman, r2modman thunderstore, and vortex

which one should i

or you know instead of me waiting in the chat that’s been dead 5 hours 😦

[pliant hatch]

I'm not using mods, so I can't help you.
But in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202934289898151966 it's all about mods, so perhaps you should wait another 5 hours?
Sometimes patience is a virtue, you know.

[ebon iris]

oh well sorry 😦

[vocal rivet]

Imagine that, chat dead in the middle of the night.

[lunar sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/976439221629894667/1097469084951642142/ezgif.com-gif-maker_-_2022-06-22T203037.569.gif

[mortal storm]

i havent played in a bit but i used r2modman, the others, last i used them werent very good

[ebon iris]

yea I looked at thunderstore and it uses overwolf which i dont like

im on linux, which I think it works on, but electron apps annoy me

[mortal storm]

most of the mods are hosted on thunderstore but r2modman can downloaad them from there for you

oh yea linux i have no idea haha

and yes i agree overwolf is awful

[pliant hatch]

Guess the Zombies haven't discovered Discord yet, eh?

Perhaps write a wiki page for that so they can find and use Discord too? 😉

[reef coral]

hey guys is some one who playng rigth now in valheim ?

[warm sandal]

not right now but i will in a few minutes after i sorted out what I want to record today 😄 any questions, that need answering?

[reef coral]

just whant to play with some one )

was playng last night alone so its boring (

[warm sandal]

oh sorry ... i do not do playing with someone i do not know... 😄 better go ask over in servers-and-lfg

[reef coral]

yep server su%$# , server for playng valheim but everyone are payng alone )

😂

can i ask why can i jhoin some group IN game there is problem like server has lost or something like that

[tacit crystal]

There are no public servers, and not all people prefer to play with strangers. Valheim is designed for solo play with optional coop preferably with friends you trust.

[strange arrow]

would never happen when i'm active xD

[rotund bay]

it's was still 6pm when they chatted, lmao

[vocal rivet]

Timezones...

[untold sorrel]

Hey, do we know if valheim 1.0 will be released with the deep north or afterwards ?

[wintry basin]

it will indeed become v1.0 with the deep north release or afterwards

[merry pebble]

Deep north will be the 1.0 🙂

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-yep-this-gif-13617583

[shy mantle]

Can the fall damage be tuned down a bit? Find it pathetic that my character can die from falling about 2 metres

[near furnace]

--> #suggestions is a place to suggest things, changes etc
don't forget the 💡 to start with

[merry pebble]

If you eat enough food to have more than 100hp you cant die from 1 fall, no matter how high 🙂

[untold sorrel]

awesome thanks

super excited for the game

[ruby silo]

When should we expect discounts on Valheim?

[merry pebble]

Its usually at discount when there is major steam sale 🙂 but even for its non sale price its nearly unbeatable value for money

https://isthereanydeal.com/game/valheim/history/#price-chart:cut you can look here for previous sales

[tacit crystal]

Should be Spring sale, there was talk about it few days ago.

[wintry valve]

Ive added a new item to my list of gripes with this game, and it goes with how I cant aim my weapons, creating situations where I cant hit certain enemies but they can. In this case, I find that I often cannot block a charred archer shot just because they shoot over whatever weapon im using to block.

[tacit crystal]

What is that item?

[wintry valve]

the item i used to try to block?

Just now, it was the berserkir axes, but I remember having trouble with the ashwood shield too

sorry, flametal shield

[tacit crystal]

Ah you mean when they shoot multiple arrows in higher arc that they fly just over your head when you approach them?

[wintry valve]

no, regular shot

it just starts so high up that when I try to block them in their face, they sometime just hit me above whatever im using to block

[tacit crystal]

Ah, just in front of them and they manage to hit you despite blocking? It can happen with other archers too.

[nocturne wolf]

Maybe it’s because the projectile spawns behind you if you’re so close?

[wintry valve]

Ill admit I didnt try with other archers much.

[tacit crystal]

That I suspect too. Have that happened before with all archers.

[nocturne wolf]

It’s never happened to me

[wintry valve]

unrelatedly, I wish that the chopping skill affected stamina use for axes

Right now im whacking stuff with my axes so as to become a better woodchopper

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, raise some axes skill level.
Become one with axes.

[wintry valve]

Honestly I prefer sword because the "best" one does frost damage and slows stuff down

also I wish there was a flametal tier one handed axe

I dont like that the berserkir axes cant strike down

[nocturne wolf]

Silver sword does more damage than mistwalker against charred and costs less stamina, it’s very useful in ashlands

[wintry valve]

does it now?

[nocturne wolf]

Yes, because of the spirit damage

[wintry valve]

meh, the difference seems to be minimal, and I like the frost

[tacit crystal]

Have you tried Nidhögg? And have you raided fortresses already?

[wintry valve]

yeah

nidhogg doesnt do frost damage

well I havent tried it, but Im not interested.

[tacit crystal]

One thing with frost damage is that it doesn't add to stagger, so Nidhögg is better for that. And you can infuse your weapons with gemstones you find in fortresses for special effects.

Slow effect is still effective, don't get me wrong. Mistwalker is still good.

[wintry valve]

I know, I have all them weapons

I like the frost effects because I use it to mess with askvins. Hit them once and then I can just slowly walk around them while hitting them.

I can do that with other enemies like the morgen too

[livid rivet]

Kinda weird but I am not getting the recipe for the longboat. I have ancient bark, Iron and all that's needed. But there is no longboat in the crafting menu

is that a bug, or am I doing something wrong

[light moat]

Iron nails?

[nocturne wolf]

It should be next to the other boats, in the first tab of the build menu

[livid rivet]

think so.. will check, cause I created bronze, but not sure for iron though. .good call

ah that was it.. damm oversight on my part.

[light moat]

Good deal, glad we got it figured out!

[light moat]

@merry pebble How’s your playthrough going? 🤔

[merry pebble]

Didnt play much lately 😅 still didnt find Yag, making portal hub atm and since i am trying to build with stone for the first time its going slowly 😄

Btw, how is your friend enjoying mistlands? 😄

[light moat]

He loves it! Can’t remember if I mentioned this, but we stumbled upon a Jotun skeleton pretty nicely intact- skull and ribs. It has a sword plunged right in the heart, with a breastplate nearby. It was a really cool scene! So now he’s theorized that the Jotun fought each other here 🤔

[cosmic summit]

If I have a stone fireplace and I build a chicken coop attached to my building with the eggs sitting right against the outside of the chimney will that provide enough warmth to hatch them? My fireplace is one stone block thick and I have the hearth clipped halfway into the stone.

[merry pebble]

Nice! 😄 I love those, always fun to imagine what battle had to take place there in the past.

[light moat]

I would think yes- check to see if you have the fire buff 🤔

[cosmic summit]

I do, but it seems like the firebuff isn't always enough.

[merry pebble]

As Dog said 🙂 if you have the fire buff then itss warm enough for them to hatch, but they might need a roof iirc

[cosmic summit]

I had two chickens hatch in my living room, but I think they wandered out a door and got eaten by necks 😦

Oh they'll have a roof. I'm going to build a full coop attached to the back of my brand new stone/marble kitchen

Now the question is do I make a fancy little stone hut to match the rest of the building, or a more traditional looking wooden coop?

[light moat]

I would do a traditional wooden coop personally 👀

[light moat]

We haven’t got to play in awhile either, been busy with life and stuff lol but we’ll probably try tonight or tomorrow

[cosmic summit]

I think I'm going to have a little coop for hatching, then have the grown hens wander around in a fenced area. I'll keep two eggs stashed somewhere so I can regrow my flock if they get wiped out in a raid

[merry pebble]

Same 😄 i might play a bit now and will see how long it will last xD

[merry pebble]

I would keep more 😄 it will be faster to get going again if it happens, maybe half stack or even full one, it will take one slot anyway

[light moat]

I have two coops at our farmhouse, I keep a total of 10 eggs in back stock just in case!

[cosmic summit]

Will do, thanks for the tip 🙂

[merry pebble]

Yw 🙂

[cosmic summit]

I'm going to rig up some kind of stand to store them like the embryo storage from the first jurassic park

[stuck mulch]

guys

what if I leave the queen arena, does she get her HP back? because all my weapons are destroyed

[light moat]

She’ll restore a little hp, just return back quickly and you’ll be ok!

[nocturne wolf]

All creatures constantly regenerate 100% of their health over an hour

[ember panther]

Whats the best ingredients to stock up on from bog witch?

[ancient agate]

Do tamed animals that you feed get extra Regen or is that my imagination

[light moat]

I’d say squirrel hamstring; I almost always have rat buff activated

[noble axle]

Cured Squirrel Hamstring (Tonic of Ratatosk potion, +15% running and walking speed, 7.5% swimming for 10m)
Fresh Seaweed (Vananidir potion, -50% stam usage when swimming for 5m) just for fun lol
Powdered Dragon Eggshells (Troll potion, +250 carry weight for 5m)
Fiery Spice Powder (Ashlands Gourmet Bowl, best feast in the game)
Herbs of the hidden hills (Mistlands feast, 2nd best feast)

[cosmic igloo]

ya id say curel squirrel hamstring too

[ember panther]

Thanks! This playthrough we are only at the plains so far, getting prepared for mistlands

Haven't experimented with the feasts much yet

[pliant hatch]

That completely depends at the biome you're in.

When first finding her, you will most likely buy the items for the swamp, black forest or meadows feasts, along with the platter and any item for a possible potion.

Later the feast ingredients will move forward and since you unlock new foods, you will also be able to unlock some of the better potions.

[ember panther]

Yea when we first found her we just bought one of everything. Don't think we've unlocked all the feasts yet, some ingredients I don't see a use for yet but figure they'll be useful later. Like the green powder. Squirrel hamstrings sounds like a great suggestion too. Haven't been utilizing these new meads but should definitely give them a try. They sound great

[pliant hatch]

The green powder is used for the first three feasts. And while all three (meadows, black forest and swamp) give the same health and stamina increase, they're very useful as you can "use up" old ingredients, without actually loosing anything on health / stamina.
The first one that really has an inpact is the one from the mountains, as that one has a higher health / stamina increase. But that one unlocks after defeating Moder, while the first three unlock before defeating Bonemass.

However, what matters more is the HP ticks the feasts give you. And out of the first three, the ones related to the Black Forest and Swamp give 3 HP ticks/s; while the Meadows feast gives 2 ticks/s.
Which means for fighting Moder, the Black Forest or Swamp feast is the best choice, while the Meadows one would be better when you're working at your base.

[cosmic summit]

I nom on feasts just because they last longer haha. Running back to base every 15 minutes to eat is annoying

[noble axle]

yea thats understandable, it also saves inventory slots as well if u carry food u can just leave it at home

[ancient agate]

So, I am planning a new Portal Hub, haven't been on the seed very long, so not many proper 'bases' but I have found several boss altars so I was just going to start by putting portals near those.

My last seed had a portal hub that was 20 meters across in a circle and had 12 portals and 4 entrances and it felt just a little bit cramped since I stuffed a bunch of comfort items in the middle. Does anyone have some cool suggestions for portal hubs? I learned a couple things I can avoid for the next iteration, but always fun to learn about viking ergonomics from better builders

[pliant hatch]

Two of the possible options:

1. use the area under the Altar of the Elder for a portal hub. You can put 5 at three of the sides and 4 - as you will need an entry point - at the 4th.
   Put the portal leading to your main base in the center and you're able to cover pretty much.

Disadvantage: with the spawn, Haldor, Hildir, Bog Witch and a pocket portal being sort of "mandatory" you "only" got 15 spots left for the rest of the map.

2. have 4 or 5 portals at your base, use one as pocket portal and the other leading to different areas of the map; at which you set up a small hub leading to different biomes.
   Basically meaning you have a hub leading to other hubs from which you enter other areas.

In both situations you're always 2 portal jumps from home.

[ancient agate]

I have thought about a sort of network larger than one hub, but I haven't committed to that many destinations yet, so I will keep both of those suggestions in mind, Thanks!

Also, for anyone, I haven't built a Stone Portal yet, but I have seen them and they seem MUCH larger than regular portals, how much space do they require to place?

[regal spoke]

Something like 3 tiles wide and 3 tall?

[subtle perch]

guys

When you fight elder in 4, it drops 4 keys?

[light moat]

He drops a key for every player in the fight I believe

[agile creek]

I would like to join a dedicated server. I love to build base

Also I like to play normal everything. Recsource gather 1x

[light moat]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 look around in here, or make a post 👍

[tiny tiger]

Another option for a portal hub is to have portals going everywhere and have a empty portal sitting at all these locations so you can just type up the code and go to any of these free portals from anywhere you want

Since you don’t really need portals connected at all times, just the ones you are travelling through, and then of course you can have your most common portals always connected from your main base (traders/farms etc)

[cobalt canyon]

They also follow the same rules as stone build pieces, have to be grounded (or at the very least well supported, I've always just put them outside on the ground so I don't really know what it takes)

[tiny tiger]

They need at least stone flooring wooden won’t work

[limpid vigil]

Is this despair? My genocide of the Greydwarfs will go unfullfilled since I just found out the Bog Witch is a greydwarf 😔

[paper dust]

guys should i use frost resistance potion for boss dragon?

[nocturne wolf]

If you have a cape or armor with frost resistance, no

They don't stack

[paper dust]

or wolf cloth is enough

[tiny tiger]

Wolf chest provides infinite frost resistance

[paper dust]

thanks

[tacit crystal]

She and the one sitting in front of her hut are the only cool greydwarves.

[cobalt canyon]

Frost resistance is frost resistance (dammit I need a copy/paste for this)

[limpid vigil]

ah ''one of the good ones'' 😉

[tacit crystal]

The exceptions.

[limpid vigil]

So will there be any more small updates ala Bog Witch before 1.0 or is 1.0 the next update (Whenever it drops)

[tiny tiger]

From what I understand deep north is still in pre production or early development and they are maybe working on some other update in parallel for before 1.0

[vocal rivet]

We don't know. All we know for certain is that Deep North is coming with 1.0. Everything else is speculation.

[tacit crystal]

Maybe or maybe not. We shall see when the time comes.

[vocal rivet]

Not that Bog Witch was a small update.

[tiny tiger]

1 new trader, some potions, food station rework…

[vocal rivet]

Pretty hefty indeed.

[limpid vigil]

2 new Greydwarfs.....

[tiny tiger]

mrbeasts feastables

Idk I’d consider it a ‘small’ update,

[limpid vigil]

Wonder if the much speculated Winter Child will be the boss of the Deep North or if we will face something else

(I am personally hoping to smite Odin for doing this to me)

[vocal rivet]

That would make zero sense.

[tiny tiger]

Like the big updates are the biome updates, everything else is small in comparison

[vocal rivet]

Smaller.

[tacit crystal]

The good ones, the good ones..

[cobalt canyon]

Resistance means 50% reduction in damage of that damage type taken, it is a single condition on your character, meaning it does not stack and is only applied once
(ex: Frost resistance mead + Wolf fur cape does nothing extra, as long as you have a wolf fur cape on you have "frost resistance" on your character, and so do not need the mead)

Weakness means you take 50% MORE of that damage type, and follows the same rule in that it can only be applied once

Very resistant & Very weak exist, and are more extreme, read your items to see if it is resistant or very resistant (meads vary, some are very resistant [poison] while others are only resistant [frost])

IMPORTANT: Your highest resist effect will override weakness, if you have both weakness and resistance to a damage type, you will take damage as though you are resistant to it (50% of normal damage), very resistant overrides resistant

exception: Serpent scale shield - the serpent scale shield has its own pierce resistance modifier, since shields are not the player this is accounted for separately on the shield, meaning that you can stack this resistance if you have both the shield and another source of pierce resistance

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Resistance for more

[cobalt canyon]

-Did I get the thing with the shield right? I've never actually used it

[vocal rivet]

Those are some words.

[cobalt canyon]

3 rounds coffee.

[tacit crystal]

Yes, pierce resistance of Serpent scale shield and Root Harnesk stack with each other.

[tacit crystal]

A word salad.

[cobalt canyon]

Hey if you can/want to write it better....

[vocal rivet]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Resistance

[tacit crystal]

No worries, I was just jesting a bit.

[cobalt canyon]

Very detailed & in-depth....also a lot more words

"Stacking fire resistance does not make you able to swim on lava like minecraft."

-lolz though

[vocal rivet]

It's a lot more words because it's not just talking about frost resistance...

Lolz though.

[cobalt canyon]

I ain't just talking about frost resistance, yes I used frost resistance as an example because that's the most common one I see

[vocal rivet]

Ok?

[pliant hatch]

Hmmmm.

Why do I feel this is becoming a "too many details" vs a "Too few details" kinda discussion?

[vocal rivet]

I wouldn't even class it as a discussion.

[cobalt canyon]

Fine, happy?

[vocal rivet]

A link to the Wiki is always going to be better than spamming chat.

[cobalt canyon]

I don't like links in general

[quartz willow]

who here wants to join we are starting a new game

[pliant hatch]

You may be able to find some in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

[tiny tiger]

Serpent (fire immune) with Wet (fire resist) results in resist.

Serpent takes a fat L lmao

[cobalt canyon]

say what now?

oh I see it

[tiny tiger]

From the page on resistances

[cobalt canyon]

I mean wet is a little better against fire than your average resist effect, seeing as it kills the duration as well

Immune would be better though

[ancient agate]

I think they also gain a weakness from wet, right? To Frost? Or do they normally have that weakness?

[cobalt canyon]

wet does have a frost weakness attached to it

"Root mask (poison resist) with Poison resistance mead (poison very resist) results in very resist."

A: "Very resist"?

B: I thought poison mead was only resist

Huh. Guess it is very resistant

now I have to include a line about how poison mead & root mask aren't like frost mead & wolf cape

[craggy niche]

Beware the land serpent

[cobalt canyon]

Or just like that

#valheim-chat message

[craggy niche]

Are you sure that wolf capes are as effective frost resistance mead?

[cobalt canyon]

Yup

Frost mead is resistant (standard), Wolf cape is resistant (standard)

No very resistant effects

[craggy niche]

Why does the wiki have 0.5x multiplier on resistant for wolf cape?

[cobalt canyon]

Still 50%, which is what standard resistant is

[merry pebble]

You get 0.5 x dmg

[craggy niche]

Why does frost resistance mead not have the 0.5x multiplier?

[cobalt canyon]

Very resistant is some other number which is.....

25%

Probably because someone else wrote the article

[nocturne wolf]

It shows ‘resistant vs frost’ which means 0.5x damage

[craggy niche]

Same with wolf armor chest (missing 0.5x multiplier)

These numbers and notations seem inconsistent

[cobalt canyon]

As long as it says "frost resistant" on it, it doesn't really matter

Resistant means 50% reduction, or .5 the damage done

[craggy niche]

I guess very resistant will be reserved for deep north content

[cobalt canyon]

Dunno what Dn is going to be

Might not even bother with a freezing effect

Could be a seperate thing like boiling water was for the Ashlands

[nocturne wolf]

I’d guess that is has the same freezing as mountains, but also has something new to keep pre-fader players out

I don’t want it to have a stronger freezing

[craggy niche]

-# Bonfires everywhere

[cobalt canyon]

Ashlands had super skeletons....are we going to get super Fenrings this round?

[near furnace]

no

you only got the biggest wolf-style enemy in mountains

[craggy niche]

Ashlands combat density is bearable because of the low elevation (mostly flat terrain like swamps or plains or meadows). Anything with extreme elevation changes (mists, mountains) is a terrible melee combat experience

[cobalt canyon]

True actually

[nocturne wolf]

We have significantly better vertical movement in later biomes now with Lightfoot mead and feather cape. I’d love to see a biome that takes advantage of this.

[cobalt canyon]

Thought DN may not be very vertical either

[cobalt canyon]

Honestly I kinda want to be avoiding crevasses (yes I did have to look up how you spell that) and having real environmental danger

[craggy niche]

Maybe if weapons had a special moveset while mid-air, i.e. unique jump attack, it could be interesting

[cobalt canyon]

Ashlands did have lava but it was pretty easy to spot

[nocturne wolf]

I like the jump attacks we have now

[craggy niche]

Still, I usually want to climb mountains rather than float away from them (like mist rocks)

[azure yacht]

I can't see the use for this beyond "it exists"

[nocturne wolf]

Attacking in the air allows you to move horizontally at full speed, and allows you attack while avoiding damage

[cobalt canyon]

I use jump + mace power attack all the time around swamps

Safe against blobs & draugur alike

[craggy niche]

So these sound like examples of jumping over enemies. In mountains, enemies are normally above you, i.e. wolves overhead or drakes overhead

[nocturne wolf]

You don’t have to jump over the enemy, if you just jump towards them you can use it to start your attack from further away

[craggy niche]

I see, you mean long windup attacks

The other subtle benefit I've noticed is that jumping momentarily breaks enemy pathfinding to you, so they sometimes idle while figuring out what to do next

[nocturne wolf]

It works well as a way of countering an enemy too strong to parry, jumping over their attack and hitting them on the way down is faster than walking back or rolling to dodge the attack first because you can’t start an attack animation during those

[craggy niche]

I suppose it depends on the attack animations for new enemies. Works well for basic animals like boars and wolves, but seekers have some strong vertical swings (and soldiers have their AOE which isn't a great idea to jump into)

[leaden epoch]

is there any servers i can join to get like a jumpstart?

[cobalt canyon]

I also use a jump Back & wind up maneuver, for the things that move/swing too fast to foward jump to

[nocturne wolf]

Some attack hitboxes are smaller than you might expect. Morgen swipes only reach 2.4m off the ground

But some are also huge like all stone golem attacks

[craggy niche]

Yeah, morgen I just walk to the side

[cobalt canyon]

If you want to skip foward there are -

you wanna skip the game?

[craggy niche]

Fighting a golem is decent on flat ground, but pain on mountainside

[nocturne wolf]

The tallest seeker attack reaches 2m up

[noble axle]

there is no enemy too strong to parry (atleast on normal difficulty)

[leaden epoch]

not skip forward i just restarted and i wanna just get a jumpstart bc i dont have a lot of time to play anymore and i would like to jump past the fresh start stage

[nocturne wolf]

I like having stamina and don’t usually have much block skill

[craggy niche]

Seems to have a better hitbox than sword secondary while stationary

Do you enable attack in look direction btw?

[misty cloak]

Yo, do 2 star wolves still only tame at night?

[leaden epoch]

.can u help me out?

[nocturne wolf]

I forget if it’s on or off, but I use whatever option that makes me attack in the direction of the camera

[cobalt canyon]

Don't need to join a server to skip the game....

But do you really want to is the question

[leaden epoch]

not skip the whole game just the start

[cobalt canyon]

...why?

[noble axle]

how far do u wanna skip?

[craggy niche]

I'll try this with windup jump attacks

[leaden epoch]

bc i dont have a lott of time i rlly just wanna skip to like the iron stage or like maybe a little farther not too far into the game

[noble axle]

well on steam type -console in launch parameters, then load up the game & ur world, press f5 type devcommands - enter
type debugmode - enter
press B for no build cost
spawn in whatever u need for building stuff
if u need a weapon u can craft anything or type spawn whateveritem - enter
🤷

[cobalt canyon]

and he's out

[cobalt canyon]

Welp - up to you to not ruin the game for yourself 🫡

[noble axle]

^^

[leaden epoch]

trust me i wont ruin the game lmao i like the grind just wanna skip past the starting stage a little

[vocal rivet]

He's not?

It's perfectly normal to speedrun the start on a second or later run.

[cobalt canyon]

...If this were a second run he'd be able to take gear from his previous world and jump ahead that way

Don't you think?

[chrome badge]

The starting stage can be progressed in under 20 minutes if you're determined to

[tacit crystal]

One could also change resource rate at the start and change back when reach iron age.

[vocal rivet]

I wouldn't presume to tell him how to play the game. Late game gear is also useless if you can't repair it.

[cobalt canyon]

...Is there something that says you can't take the mats for a forge with you? Or bring spare gear? Or transfer back to your old world to repair?

also, did I tell him how to play the game?

Did I say "don't use console commands"

[azure yacht]

But that sound like an interesting challenge.

You could use late game gear to demolish everything in early game BUT once it's broken you can't repair it until you reach the according crafting station and levels

So better spare its use

[cobalt canyon]

As a matter of fact I said the exact opposite, I said the game was in his hands

[light moat]

Good news! You start with Dyrnwyn! Bad news… you have no way to repair it 👀

[cobalt canyon]

One moment

[vocal rivet]

Of course, which is what other people are trying to help them with.

[azure yacht]

See? We just invented a new way of playing and it's vanilla.

This is why I laugh at the "I have nothing to do I finished game" statements. You just lack imagination

[cobalt canyon]

.

[pliant radish]

I suspect that would quickly become a no weapons challenge

[shy marlin]

would just be a loot and dash challenge

[pliant radish]

I take it back

[tacit crystal]

Also the stamina cost of late game weapon at the start of the game (if no late game foods available).

[cobalt canyon]

So why is late game gear useless to him?

[cobalt canyon]

Did this whole theory on how to get black forge the fastest

Black forge needs yigg wood, therefore you need a BM axe

Therefore you need Moder dead

Iron from somewhere for Blast furnace

[shy marlin]

wrong

seeker soldier my dude

[cobalt canyon]

🤔

anything need moder dead for black forge?

[shy marlin]

no

[cobalt canyon]

Sap extractor

[shy marlin]

don't need sap for black forge

black forge = marble, black core and ygg wood

[cobalt canyon]

Do we only need a lvl 1 forge to repair flamey sword?

[shy marlin]

you can get lvl 2 black forge without moder

[cobalt canyon]

My lvl 2 Flamey says needs lvl 4

[shy marlin]

🤷‍♂️ yea idk those numbers

[cobalt canyon]

(what's the ID for the sword?)

SwordDyrnwyn

Lvl 1 also takes lvl 4 for repair

[shy marlin]

ah yea level 1 dryn needs bf4 and lvl 2 dryn needs bf5

so gg that challenge does require moder yea

[cobalt canyon]

Lvl 2 needs lvl 4

Not 5

[shy marlin]

Wiki is wrong then

[cobalt canyon]

May not need to kill queen though

[shy marlin]

wait idk i'm tired

[tiny tiger]

Now the question is can a dyrnwyrn kill moder on its own

[cobalt canyon]

Probably

[shy marlin]

Level 2 dryn?

[tiny tiger]

Sure

What’s that 7.5k hp?

[shy marlin]

yea

[tiny tiger]

Vs 151 slash 10 fire

[noble axle]

ppl have beaten up to yagluth with flint weapons, so yes dyrnwyn can kill moder on its own

[shy marlin]

so you have 250 durability, each hit needs to do 30 damage.

Thing is you also will have 0 sword skill

[cobalt canyon]

I've a slightly dented flamey sword and devcommands

[tiny tiger]

Each hit will surely do at least 30 damage but then we also need to account for how long it takes with boss regaining 100% hp per hour

[cobalt canyon]

Think I'm going to go find out

[shy marlin]

alright

[tiny tiger]

125hp a minute regen

[shy marlin]

Say the fight is 10 min (big buffer imo)

[tiny tiger]

8.75k health

[shy marlin]

so that's an extra 1250 hp, which means each hit needs to do 35 dmg

easily doable

[cobalt canyon]

Swamp food, lvl 1 fenring coat

ah but would a speedrunner have a cauldron?

Troll can get tin right?

[shy marlin]

yep

[tiny tiger]

Honestly the biggest problem will be moder going into the air

[shy marlin]

just have to wait it out or manipulate her ai :>

[tiny tiger]

You only have so much dyrnwyn durability and you will need to save most of it for her

heavy attacks use just as much durability as regular attacks right

[shy marlin]

yep

[cobalt canyon]

So heavy is better

[shy marlin]

yes

only use special, durability is the limiting factor

special does more damage than 1 auto chain, and both take 1 durability

[cobalt canyon]

Just gonna leave god mode on, see if the durability holds up

[sour furnace]

To save on resources, but I agree, I would rather play with a huge render distance, even if it comes at the cost of 30 fps

[gray sand]

Try 3.

@ Smiffe, one single person's settings have no issues, therefore you should alter the entire game 👍

[cobalt canyon]

53 swords skill, lvl 2 Flamey sword

Moder ate maybe a third of the durability

[gray sand]

Flamey sword OP

[sour furnace]

Well it's not 'game altering' to see the trees on the island you're passing by in your boat

[shy marlin]

Except it's not 😔

[gray sand]

Scale issue.

[shy marlin]

Just a worse lightning 1h ashlands sword 😔

should really do more fire dmg then it'd be cool

[cobalt canyon]

Honestly I think the challenge is doable

And absolute pain in the ass mostly-passive run but it's doable

[sour furnace]

Or yagluth altar, for example

[gray sand]

So it's like the Fire Arrows of swords?
People think it is better than it is? 😄

[noble axle]

I think if they made the fire from that sword ignore all fire resistant enemies and made it do more dmg, it could be very very good 🤷

[shy marlin]

Exactly someone gets it!

[noble axle]

getting that sword isn't exactly easy and its pretty unrewarding compared to the gemstone weps

[shy marlin]

yea

[sour furnace]

The minimap exploration feels bigger than your draw distance

[gray sand]

Not easy to get?
Unrewarding?

Did someone say... Fishing Hat? 😛

[shy marlin]

dude i got the fishing hat for the first time ever last night

never again, fishing is far too hard for me

[gray sand]

😄

Given none of the Ashlands food needs it, it has become pointless.

[nimble moss]

it would be good if the fire sword did more fire dmg than a torch... but maybe I'm just over thinking it...

[shy marlin]

[gray sand]

Torches are an amazing way to kill Elder.

Takes like 7-8 depending on your Mace skill.

[shy marlin]

campfires 😏

[gray sand]

You don't level any weapons with campfires though.

[shy marlin]

crafting

can be a weapon 😏

[gray sand]

Torch is Wood + Resin.
We need a Wood + DwarfEye blue torch.

That also does Frost damage.

[regal spoke]

Level 1 crafting does as much damage as max level lol

[gray sand]

And a Wood + Guck green torch that Poisons. 😏

[shy marlin]

wood + black core = lightning torch?

[regal spoke]

No thunderstone

[tacit crystal]

Now that's a scale issue.

[shy marlin]

ah yea

[regal spoke]

F yes mate 🤣

[shy marlin]

Full admit it i am not cut out for the fishing thing

[regal spoke]

Fishing is cool. Not my thing though

[gray sand]

It's 1000x better than Stardew fishing.

[shy marlin]

I think I am gonna have to really learn how to fish tho caues the troll potion is too good to ignore

[nimble moss]

Build a wood trap. Then you don’t need to fish.

Main issue is time. But if done at a home base, probably viable.

Hmmm….

[regal spoke]

Trapping fish is still viable?

[nimble moss]

Yeah, there’s 1-2 videos on it.

It “works”.

Just the other day I got 1-2 fish during a speed run during a storm, cause they got themselves trapped on a rock…

[regal spoke]

That's an organic route. I've picked up some leveled fish from a storm. I suppose creating some catches along a shoreline and monitor during a good storm could profit.

[tacit crystal]

Utilising Karve has helped me catch some of those higher tier fish.

[regal spoke]

Love some karve action

[tacit crystal]

Best fishing boat.

[regal spoke]

It can thread the needle through some really narrow passes too

[cosmic summit]

Can chains be hung from item stands?

[nimble moss]

@vocal rivet still got me on ignore?

If not - the wiki for Corpse run resistances is wrong. It is not "very resistant" - just "resistant".

[misty cloak]

Do lox get stars?

[cobalt canyon]

Nope

[wintry valve]

i liked the stardew fishing

[vocal rivet]

Taken direct from the code.

[nimble moss]

So the in game text is wrong then?

Cause I just checked in game.

But fair enough; let me go check code. Might be a visual bug then.

Interestingly the old screenshot in the wiki says “very resistant”, but the current game text says “resistant”.

So somewhere, something changed in a patch….

[vocal rivet]

{
type: 'effect',
id: 'CorpseRun',
tier: 0,
time: 50,
runStamina: -0.75,
jumpStamina: -0.75,
damageModifiers: {
blunt: 'veryResistant',
pierce: 'veryResistant',
slash: 'veryResistant',
},
},

[nimble moss]

Fair. But I wonder if it has an asset overlay on top, and it’s overridden on that.

I’ll do some checks and get back to you.

But the in game text has definitely changed to “resistant”, so something is amiss…

[vocal rivet]

Wouldn't be the first time tool tips were wrong.

[nimble moss]

i found something - but now I'm not sure - let me go in game and test

Ugh - why cant we post pics here? I'll post in another channel - got some data to show about it. Found a second issue I didnt even know by accident

[cobalt canyon]

Yeah it is a bit annoying, #screenshots though

[nimble moss]

kk - @vocal rivet - I posted some stuff in #screenshots .

Looks like its changed - its resistant now, no longer very resistant.

I'll do one more science test now and compare bonemass dmg vs corpserun - that will definitively prove it

No armor - skeleton doing around 24 dmg raw.

With bonemass = around 12 dmg raw (expected at 50% resistance)

With corpserun (and no bonemass) = also around 12 dmg raw. If it was 75% - would be more like 6dmg.

So yeah - looks like it changed sometime in a patch... but searching all patch notes - was never mentioned - so not sure when it changed (vs the original wiki screenshot that clearly shows it as originally been "very resistant") .

The only mention of a change to corpse run was in March 2022 to add the additional weight - maybe it was changed then intentionally or unintetionally... /shrug

[noble axle]

or they could of just not deemed it important enough to be put in the patch notes

devs for every game don't put stuff in patch notes

[nimble moss]

Maybe - but I find the Valheim patch notes to be very comprehensive.

The buff has been changed at some point considerably from +10 HP per tick to +5HP tick, and changed very resistant to just standard resistant... In saying that - doesnt seem like anyone has noticed....

Maybe it was overlooked to be added to notes, was not intended to be changed at all, or was intended to be a stealth change to avoid communtiy issues. Dunno. All I know is currently it is different to what it is recorded as, so we can fix that in the wiki at least...

[vital umbra]

now whats going on

[stuck mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[vital umbra]

lovely

[stuck mulch]

did you watch it

[vital umbra]

not initially though

but i think i can agree with the sentiment

[sour furnace]

Are the crafting station hitboxes intended to be so excessively large, or is it something that I can expect to change sometime?

[nimble moss]

TLDR corpse run buff stealth nerfed sometime.

[nimble moss]

Possibly to make it easier to interact with them?

[vital umbra]

i never would have known it buffed stealth idrc

[worldly dawn]

Does anyone her speak Spanish?

[severe turret]

The mistlands suck. IDK what it is, but plains were insane with the original deathsquito, but it was still fun. Mistlands just are no fun at all. Meadow to Plains gameplay is amazing and I love every minute. I try to play mistlands and I just don't care to play anymore after a few hours. Is this just me? I played 300 hours almost straight when the game came out and maybe 10+ hours since the mistlands update.

[gray sand]

Mistlands are amazing.

[severe turret]

What am I missing? It feels no fun. I die b/c I'm blind. I die b/c there's cliffs and I die from flying death ants.

[gray sand]

You killed Yagluth right?

[severe turret]

Yeah

[gray sand]

And you built the thing he drops right?

Because that is how you are able to see in the Mistlands.

[severe turret]

oooh maybe not. I think he initially dropped a "Something" before the mistlands were released and I haven't checked on what that was since.

[gray sand]

That would be why you think they suck.

[nimble moss]

You should end up with a wearable item that makes it easier to see

[gray sand]

Curious as to why you did not check?

Every single boss gives you the thing you need for the next biome.

And you thought Mistlands was different somehow?

[severe turret]

You were good at the helping part, appreciate it!
No need for the rest of the comments lol

[gray sand]

Asking questions = bad.
Well ok then.

[vital umbra]

"Every single boss gives you the thing you need for the next biome." is very much a helping part.

if that pattern with bosses has not been picked up yet, well there it is.

[normal vine]

i'm about to reach a year on my save

[normal vine]

except for the swamp key

you can very much ignore it, same with the wishbone

[vital umbra]

not meta

[normal vine]

moder tears are important for the artisan table, you could probably get to the ashlands without using a drakkar somehow (idk how)

[vital umbra]

not intended either.

At times more difficult, Not what most people do, Not what you're told to do, And not what the game is designed for you to do, I don't participate in that most of the time 😘

[normal vine]

still shouldn't skip it because it takes the fun out of the grinding experience

[normal vine]

"speedrunning" the game is just lame

taking the fun out of it

[vital umbra]

I do not skip bosses or equipment, i don't think i ever want to speed run a game.

I tried that a dozen times with minecraft and every time i wasn't having a good time in any way.

[normal vine]

i understand, i wouldn't either

[vapid rapids]

I have the game setup to take significant grinding. Takes a long time.

Day 150 or higher maybe and still no moder or even mountains lol

[normal vine]

did this ever happen to anyone

i have the game maximized but i cannot interact with it

[wintry wave]

Im on Day 320 something and still have not found yag

😐

[robust delta]

we must sail sum'more

[wintry wave]

True

[tacit crystal]

Or search for Stonehenge-like formations for Vegvisir.

[wintry wave]

I found stonehenge but No glowing rock

[tacit crystal]

They are evasive yeah. Keep searching. 👍

[merry pebble]

Yeah, the stonehenges are rare themselves, and its even rarer for them to have vegvisir 🙂

[wintry wave]

👌

I raided a fuling Village yesterday and died like three times for three barley. Very Worth it.

[merry pebble]

One death for one barley 😄 seems like good deal to me xD

[thorny raft]

Anyone know why there isn't a silver buckler? Is it just a weird thing to have? Lol

[sinful fulcrum]

I tried the no queen boat experience to ashlands

It was fun

[steady bough]

did ye make it?

[nocturne wolf]

All types of weapons and shields skip a few biomes so you can’t stick to the exact same play style through the whole game.

The silver shield parries better than the iron buckler so it’s still an upgrade if you’re only parrying, and it also blocks significantly better.

[thorny raft]

Isn't the parry damage bonus lower for round shields though?

[nocturne wolf]

Parry bonus multiplies block armor, which is why you take less damage when parrying. Staggered enemies always take 2x damage.

[thorny raft]

We just got to the mountains and my fighting style is iron sword and iron buckler

[sinful fulcrum]

Yeah

I made it to ashlands without killing the queen

[thorny raft]

So the parry bonus changes how much u defend, not how much damage u deal?

Cuz i've been parrying trolls and abominations, lol

So i'm fine to switch to the round shield and it won't mess with my damage?

[nimble moss]

parry is determined by your HP total - with a parry bonus modifier from bucklers.

its in the Pin comments on this channel for a guide/calculator on it

[nocturne wolf]

Yes. You’ll be able to block and parry stronger attacks and the enemies will take the same damage bonus as they do for being staggered by anything.

[thorny raft]

For some reason i thought the parry bonus multiplied by stagger damage by that amount lol

[nocturne wolf]

The 2.5 number on a buckler is pretty close to the 2.0 damage multiplier against a staggered enemy so it’s an easy mistake to make

[thorny raft]

I don't see it, though i'm also on mobile so google drive is hard to read

[empty blaze]

Guys

Is an update expected soon?

[merry pebble]

No news on any updates 🙂

[tiny tiger]

There may or may not be an update in the form of a blog post there was one at the end of November and December

[empty blaze]

I understand

[limpid vigil]

I hope we get more minibosses/dungeons like Hildir's Questline. It adds a lot of nice variety to the world

Maybe a swamp one? Since that biome didnt get any

[thorny raft]

The swamp might be considered too dangerous for quests lol

I moved to the mountains last night and that was easy mode compared to the swamp lol

[tiny tiger]

Swamps gotten enough love already give the mountains and plains some

[nocturne wolf]

Plains has got tar pits and sealed towers, and mountains got frost caves and howling caverns

[tiny tiger]

Mountains trader would be nice

[sinful fulcrum]

O boi

[west geode]

Hi I’m new !!
I have played the game for 3h
I like it but looks like it’s more fun with someone else
Someone want to play ?

[tacit crystal]

You can try find company from https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

Welcome aboard!

[normal vine]

not sure if you guys experience the same phenomenon as i do, but early game is honestly the most fun it gets, and late game just gets significantly less enjoyable

maybe someone here can disagree with me

[tacit crystal]

What makes the late game less enjoyable to you?
Mistlands remains still as my favorite biome in game because the progression differs from earlier biomes in many ways and it introduces eitr/magic. And getting Feather cape makes the exploration there even more enjoyable.

[normal vine]

i enjoy the simplicity of early game, there's no eitr, no magic, the biomes are plain and simple, and the soundtrack is great

workbench, forge, and farming at best, it's where the game's the most enjoyable to me

simple wooden structures, no stone, no black marble, and no grausten

just pure bronze-age esque aesthetic

[tacit crystal]

Sure, that's totally valid! Everyone has their own preferences, I'm more up to challenges personally. 🙂

[tacit crystal]

I assume Black forest is your favorite biome?

[normal vine]

it's the prettiest biome after the meadows in my opinion

so yes it's my favourite

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, it has pretty chilling vibes 👌🏻

[azure crag]

I just knowing the hard way that blocking 38+silver shield lvl 3 can't parry star 1 fuling berserk

[noble axle]

Get ur blocking skill higher and u will be able too, also use the black metal shield 🙂

[azure crag]

Btw how to access sealed tower? should i build a ladder like fortnite or any entrance?

[azure crag]

still haven't fight moder yet

[noble axle]

Yea build a ladder

[azure crag]

because i'm too lazy to migrate from silver to black metal

[azure crag]

is the entrance is on top of tower or in the window?

[merry pebble]

Can be both 🙂

[normal vine]

I just got a raid event titled "They're just bros, man"

what does that even mean

[merry pebble]

Hildir raid 🙂 fulings as Angsa said

[normal vine]

oh its the zil & thungr raid

[merry pebble]

yep

[normal vine]

not too hard

wow i just literally teleported to the ashlands and got greeted by 10 warriors and 10 1-star marksmen

not bad!

yeah with this many enemies it's literally impossible to do anything without magic

[paper roost]

its not, its just you have to get used to the enemies and know what to wear and how to fight them.

[normal vine]

i know how to fight them it's just the fact that they're literally everywhere you go at all times

[merry pebble]

Just wanted to say something similar 🙂 and just wanted to add that even before nerfing the enemy alerting and spawnrates it was 100% doable with melee weapons

[paper roost]

in the morning i just cleared fortress with 1* and no star warlock, many archers and warriors, twitchers i didnt even bother to count, all just with claws, not even bow, or shield

[normal vine]

warlocks and warriors aren't hard at all it's just hordes of archers

unless you can hold some corners it can be done but with no cover it's just kinda hard idk

[paper roost]

i suppose you play on normal difficulty, so just wear the harnesk until you learn how to dodge their attacks, or parry the shots

[normal vine]

magic is just the safe bet here

[merry pebble]

Oh for sure 🙂 but melee is fun too

[paper roost]

well, its your call, i m not pushing, just trying to help 😉

[tacit crystal]

Pick your Thunder Berserkir axes and go wild.

[raven shale]

#suggestions message why r u ppl saying no

[nocturne wolf]

#suggestion-discussion

[onyx lava]

Make me a promise that time won't erase us, that we weren't lost from the start; all father!

[raven shale]

Ah

[merry pebble]

Changing how water works would break so much stuff i dont even want to think about it

[onyx lava]

Some people, Mr. Wayne, just want to watch the world burn, or in this case, drown.

[stuck mulch]

bro I just got to ashlands

[onyx lava]

Bro no way

[stuck mulch]

there was a level 2 warrior or something and he one shoted me and my portal now I lost everything lol

[onyx lava]

how!?

[merry pebble]

Starred wariors are strong

[onyx lava]

Use your muscals, and slay thy heathen foe!

[stuck mulch]

I have maxed out armor

[onyx lava]

Block block parry stab

[stuck mulch]

he just one shoted me lol

[onyx lava]

Im just hyper that would suck bro sorry

[merry pebble]

Was it 2 star?

[stuck mulch]

yes

I had like 150hp and maxed out armor bro just one shoted me and destroyed my portal

[merry pebble]

Ooooof, yeah, you have to be*** REALLY ***carefull around those

[stuck mulch]

I cant et my stuff back because my ship is there too

thats crazy unfair lol

[merry pebble]

You can make another drakkar 🙂

Well, you were warned to prepare for war/battlefield 😄

[stuck mulch]

I did

but I did not expect to be one shoted that aint no battlefield

thats a massacre

[merry pebble]

You were just unlucky to encouter 2 star version of "brute lvl" enemy 🙂 they are dangerous in any biome when you just get to it for the first time

[stuck mulch]

yea but none one shot you at least not with maxed out armor

and the thing is i JUST ate like I had max health

[merry pebble]

I think they might 🤔 will go check tho 🙂

Did you have 2 stam 1 hp food?

[stuck mulch]

no 3 HP

lol

[merry pebble]

what? you said 150 hp

what were those foods?

[stuck mulch]

yea I had sausage, the cows from plains and the bugs from mistlands

the bug meat, nox meat and sausage

[merry pebble]

Thats no food for ashlands my friend XD

there you have the reason

[stuck mulch]

well thats 160HP

[merry pebble]

you should have stuff like honey glazed chicken, misthare supreme, meat platter, salad, mushroom omelete... basicaly you should have the best you can get in mistlands when exploring new biome 🙂

[stuck mulch]

aight but getting oneshoted is still fucking stupid lol

160 to zero on maxed out armor is dumb af

[merry pebble]

not really with 1 food from 4 biomes earlier i am afraid 😅

[stuck mulch]

bro its 160 HP xDDD

its crazy to defend getting one shoted on 160HP

[merry pebble]

And non star warior does 160 dmg with one of his attacks, as 0 star 😉

[stuck mulch]

nah they dont

[merry pebble]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Charred_Warrior

[stuck mulch]

I fought them xD and i didnt get one shoted

[onyx lava]

@stuck mulch You should have nearly 300 hp

[merry pebble]

ofc thats before calculating armor

[onyx lava]

With all 3 HP food from mists

[stuck mulch]

I wasnt even close to getting one shoted

aight whatever you say guys I guess getting one shoted the moment you land is good design xD

[merry pebble]

As i said... you were just really unlucky and underprepared...

[stuck mulch]

👍

[onyx lava]

Lol its not a design we understand your upset, but thats just part of the game. I went into my first sunken crypt and hit 2 2star elite dragyr with troll armor on

RNG sucks sometimes but it has saved me other times when i get hit and walk away with 1 hp

[stuck mulch]

this has never happend to me in any zone

and its the furthest away and that bitchass mob destroyed my portal too

[onyx lava]

Well congradulations! It finally happened I have nearly 730 hours in the game

[stuck mulch]

the furthest away zone

[onyx lava]

Im aware of where the ashlands is, i have a few saves with castles there

[robust delta]

yeah ashlands is a warzone, tho at least u know to get more prepared

[onyx lava]

someone send him a link to getting back the version where deathsquitos came (before they balanced) then lets see how fair he thinks the plains is

[stuck mulch]

nah I think I quit that shit is really disgusting like ok man I get if I get low tahts fine or ok kill me 2 hits thats fine too, but one hit AND destroy the portal in 3 hits or something is just crazy work xD

[onyx lava]

Then I bid you a fond farewell

[robust delta]

lol

[onyx lava]

I had a nasty thing to say about quitters but meh not everyone can handle loss and defeat as well as others, so yes a fond farewell indeed! Im off to Barnes and noble.

[stuck mulch]

especially since the death screen is still in the area making the mob attack the portal while I cant do shit about it xD

[stuck mulch]

unemployment endboss

I even had health potions, couldnt pop em though

[tacit crystal]

Against those starred warriors knockback is your best friend.

[robust delta]

and updated food

[gray sand]

Food remains the most important stat in the game.

[noble axle]

I fought ||Fader|| with mountains tier food

[shy marlin]

Be a true skill expressionist and fight fader without food

[noble axle]

ye no

[shy marlin]

why not

[merry pebble]

Oh it certainly is possible, but you have to be very very carefull 🙂

[noble axle]

too hard, would take too long, don't have the patience or motivation

mainly the 3rd

[shy marlin]

😏 sure

[noble axle]

😉

[frail tinsel]

I'm addicted to valheim got 117 hours within 5 ish days

[merry pebble]

So you have it on through day and night? 😄 23,4 hours a day?

[ashen steppe]

I have not been to the ashlands yet I have not really played since Mistland but I am getting back into it

[frail tinsel]

Ask assassin been on his server for just about 5 ish days nonstop

I'm the founder of the bronze brigade

[merry pebble]

Welcome back then 😄 If i may then i would suggest to start new save or at least play elsewhere than ashlands for a bit to get back into it. It is a biome that will test you hard, after all it is the penultimate biome 😁

[frail tinsel]

I'm taking bronze all the way to Ashlands

Me and my small army of men

[ashen steppe]

I also love to FAFO and for science thing

[ashen steppe]

I have heard about that from my friends that have already went and beat the ashlands

[merry pebble]

Then you will probably like ashlands xD

[ashen steppe]

Probably

[noble axle]

thats the spirit!!!

[sour furnace]

@shy marlin just wondering, how do you do your challenges? Do you use commands for reatempts ect.or do you grind? love your videos.

[shy marlin]

Boss challenges?

I have a macro that is on a key that resets the day, skills, equipment etc so yea

[obsidian glacier]

when you land in ashlands with the boat, is there time to builld a portal or there is too much monsters

[merry pebble]

Expect landing in Normandy 🙂

[nocturne wolf]

It will depend on your luck, you can build a portal on one of the stones on the ocean because there will be less enemies there

[obsidian glacier]

lol xd

[obsidian glacier]

should i put some materials like iron or black metal cuz i cant bring by portals

in my boat

[nocturne wolf]

Bring some iron for a stonecutter, and the metals for a few shield generators

[obsidian glacier]

okay thanks

[gray sand]

Shield Generators.
This is StarHeim Wars now.
😏

[spare patio]

#screenshots message

I dont actually think my friends have ever actually crafted anything other than builds lol

[strange lake]

Skill difference be like
The first time I fought The Queen it felt like it was half my deaths for the whole run
The second time - 0 deaths, and like two times it was "close"

time for ashlands I guess

[merry pebble]

It be like that 😄 but its also the most fun the first time imo, hence why i have still yet to kill ashlands boss

[strange lake]

Now blind dive for Ashlands. All I heard is to bring stone cutter with me

[merry pebble]

That is a good idea 🙂 you could also take few shield generators with you, and ofcourse portal

[strange lake]

Also small question - how many orphans do I need to sacrifice so that devs added Ygdrassil shoot seeds

[merry pebble]

Welp, that i have no idea xD

[vocal rivet]

Weird.

[pliant hatch]

It might help if you sacrifice yourself. 😉

[potent quest]

best valheim mmorpg as of rn ?

[merry pebble]

Valheim is not mmorpg...

[potent quest]

yes but ppl can make mmorpg based mods

[merry pebble]

Oh, then you will have more luck in #mods-discussion 😄

[vocal rivet]

But should they? Why not just play an MMORPG?

[acoustic temple]

oh yeah, Fader DOWN!

[vocal rivet]

It's like modding FIFA to be a racing sim.

[gray sand]

Isn't that just QWOP?

😏

[vocal rivet]

Lol. Not remotely, but sure.

[acoustic temple]

sad now, my mate and I would play every weekend in the mornings

now we have "finished", not sure what to do now!

[gray sand]

Build cool shit?

[fossil vault]

Building w/o no build cost is such a chore

[gray sand]

No?

Building w/o no build cost is playing the game.

[shy marlin]

play on hard / very hard

[fossil vault]

Mining stone for hours was not on my 2025 bucket list...

[gray sand]

I'm sorry I actually enjoy the game?

[fossil vault]

I enjoy the game aswell, just not the boring and repetitive parts

[gray sand]

So you don't. 😉

[noble axle]

try modded valheim that could be fun, or do valheim in reverse (which is what I did and it was fun)

[fossil vault]

I do. Just not the boring and repetitive parts.

[craggy niche]

Mine the foundation of stone pillars in plains and mists or even black forest. Stone will fall from the sky literally.

[gray sand]

So... you don't. 😉

[fossil vault]

Wdym?

There is more to the game then grinding stone

[noble axle]

nah, mining copper/tin/whatever is the most boring part of the game and many people quit because of it

[gray sand]

If applicable (or in the future) try saying directly to your spouse that you love them except for all the things you dislike about them.
Let me know how that goes over 😂

[fossil vault]

How is this related to the topic of discussion?

[sharp bluff]

if your relationship aint shit they'd already know lmao

[gray sand]

If you can't see the related point this discussion is over.

[fossil vault]

I dont have a personal relationship with Valheim

[noble axle]

Valheim discussions only in this channel. This is not a valheim discussion 😡

[chrome badge]

Shhhhh Odin is listening

[fossil vault]

Im tryna discuss Valheim but Sevrahn started talking about relationships all of the sudden

[sharp bluff]

he didnt

[fossil vault]

Uhh...

[noble axle]

fr lmao

[gray sand]

I made a completely related point, you missed it.
Moving on.

[chrome badge]

They were just making the point, you need to take the things you don't enjoy sometimes to enjoy the things you do like.

[noble axle]

that is a better way of saying it but still mining is tedious and many people quit because of it

[fossil vault]

But like. Why though? Ingame I should be able to do the things I want. I play the game for fun.

[merry pebble]

It can be for some 🙂 i find it relaxing, same with farming

[gray sand]

You're probably not going to understand this point either, but I will try.

You play games in general for fun.
You were having fun playing this one. You ran into something that made this game not fun.
Your options then are move on to another game you will actually enjoy, or force yourself to continue with this one.
Genuinely happiness would be achieved by moving on, but it is the rarest occurence from people that I have seen.

[chrome badge]

If the good doesn't outweigh the bad, it's either not for you, or you might want to look into nobuild mode.

[plush umbra]

am i missing something or what's wrong with using modifiers to make the experience better suited to your tastes

[shy marlin]

absolutely nothing

[odd helm]

And this is why the game also has some settings that allow for some nuance on that. You can change things to be less (or more) punishing as you wish.

[gray sand]

You're supposed to be working on a name 😭

[plush umbra]

i'm sick, the only names i can come up with are cat names, and only because you can name them anything and they're still precious

[gray sand]

-# You lost me at i'm.

[fossil vault]

Thats what Im saying.

[potent zephyr]

me (a gamer) still dying to greydwarf brutes bc i wanna fight them with fists

[chrome badge]

You could always use troll enticing mead to have them do the work for you, or have Lox aggrod around the large pillars in the plains. From there it's just a matter of building a cart

[merry pebble]

Get well soon~🫂

[gray sand]

Use the wovlerine claws!

[potent zephyr]

im at troll armor

[craggy niche]

Modifiers/sliders fragment a community unfortunately. We are playing different games with zero build cost.

[fossil vault]

I mean I dont play actual playthroughs with no build cost but if I specifically want to build I will use it instead of grinding all of the mats

[chrome badge]

Only if you're a build elitist 😅 looking good and having fun are universal.

[craggy niche]

I don't have anything against it, but it's clear that the community perceives modified builds differently, e.g. modded build screenshots are not allowed in vanilla build screenshots

No build cost won't change the aesthetics, but it does change how relatable a build can be

Just some interesting psychology/philosophy to observe

[chrome badge]

I suppose, but it could also be viewed as a great source for inspiration, and what is possible without imposed restrictions surrounding materials. It reminds me of how fighting game players collectively improve when a cheater uses a program to play the game, and reveals what's possible.

[gray sand]

Other than building integrity, there are no imposed restrictions on materials.

[vocal rivet]

Boy that was a weird conversation I missed.

[chrome badge]

Acquisition time, building pieces restricted by killing bosses, and needing a workbench nearby to build.

[vocal rivet]

That's not a restriction.

[gray sand]

So... "playing the game" is filed as a restriction now?

[chrome badge]

If you can't do something without passing that barrier, yes.

[gray sand]

See previous about how that translates to not actually enjoying the game.

[vocal rivet]

I'm not sure video games are your thing.

[onyx lava]

Considering there are very few places you cant build a workbench in total, you want to own the swamp? build a canopy fortress

Everyone STOP feeding the troll Omni is very very hangry

[sinful fulcrum]

[vocal rivet]

I don't think they're trolling.

[sinful fulcrum]

Bonezone shield

[onyx lava]

Well if they dont like the game then why are they wasting time complaining? move on Omni move on

[chrome badge]

I must just be getting misunderstood, I'm not sure how advocating for anyone playing how they like leads to these reponses. 😅

[noble axle]

not rlly? how can you even tell if a build is made using no build cost? you can't 🤨

[tiny tiger]

5000 iron beams

[sinful fulcrum]

5000?!

[onyx lava]

Becasue the GAME (ROLE PLAYING) IS DESIGNED how it is and YOU dont like it. Go play Star wars and complain you cant make a bow and arrow???????

[sinful fulcrum]

That’s 5000 iron my boss

[chrome badge]

Where.. where did I say that?

[noble axle]

I'm sure there's 5k iron in the world, and more

[onyx lava]

Here

[tiny tiger]

at the end of the day the problem here is caring what other people think, you built it, how you built it doesn’t matter you are sharing it because you like how it looks and want to share it lol

[gray sand]

Ok but... bow that shoots lightsabers. 👀

[chrome badge]

By defining what a restriction is?

[onyx lava]

The "barrier' is game designed

[vocal rivet]

Chewie has a bowcaster.

[onyx lava]

you dont like it you dont like the game design you dont like the game play ... you dont like that game

[craggy niche]

Here's an analogy that may be more relatable to avoid conflict. Suppose we all enjoy cars. Consider two people that recently acquired a car.

• Person A. Finds a job and saves money to buys a Toyota Corolla.
• Person B. Received a Lamborghini with daddy's monies.

We can all enjoy the cars and maybe even person A and B are friends. However, people will perceive and judge A and B differently. This is just simple psychology.

[chrome badge]

I never once said I didn't enjoy it, I personally play everything vanilla.

[vocal rivet]

Apart from all the 'restrictions'.

[gray sand]

Everyone knows bows are better than arbalests 😏
.#PlzNerfBows or #BuffArbalests

[chrome badge]

This is what occurs when people join a conversation midway.

[onyx lava]

I guess we are all stuck on your use of the word "restriction" as the is identified as 'holding back' and people don't like being 'held back' as such it seems like a complaint.

[noble axle]

buff arbalest reload time & give them more ammo than 1 shot, even at 100 skill it takes ages to reload

[chrome badge]

Imposed restriction refers to vanilla coding.

[gray sand]

Keep 1 shot, just let something called "The Ripper" actually be able to shoot through multiple targets and I'm happy.

[onyx lava]

Awww Omni I apologize

I did missunderstand you my friend and no everyone i have not started drinking... yet

[noble axle]

1 shot is awful

[gray sand]

1 shot is accurate.

[chrome badge]

All good not to worry.

[noble axle]

only good on sneak attacks against 1 enemy

[onyx lava]

I went up further and realized you werent even the one originally and that you were just trying to help explain 🙂

[gray sand]

Hence, penetrating through multiple enemies fixes the problem will making it different from bows.

[noble axle]

this is a fantasy game? why do you people care about **aCcUrAte **

[gray sand]

"you people"?\

[tiny tiger]

I still don’t see how this relates to building, I think the difference is one guy stared at a screen mining rocks for 10 hours prior and the other had rocks appear from thin air

[onyx lava]

Because spaghetti monsters are real @noble axle

[noble axle]

omg 😮

[vocal rivet]

Have you misunderstood the word accurate?

[noble axle]

no

[onyx lava]

I missunderstood the word 'word'

[fallow parrot]

are you sure about that

[craggy niche]

Yes. One person worked for the reward and the other "received" it.

[tiny tiger]

The reward wasn’t the pile of rocks, but what was made with it

[gray sand]

I work for the reward of my arrows and my enemies "receive" them. 😏

[craggy niche]

Sure, we can arrange rocks however we want

[onyx lava]

@tiny tiger Hey I represent that remark! ashes to ashes...

[tiny tiger]

A. Gather rocks
B use rocks to build
C building is made

One guy just skips step A, he still had to put the effort in of making the rocks look good

[fallow parrot]

debug > building is made

[onyx lava]

thats too hard, can you just show me where the ocean is! Im on a boat!

[fossil vault]

Can I just play the game like I want 😭

[tiny tiger]

Of course

[vocal rivet]

No-one is stopping you.

[sour furnace]

NO! YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE WAY WE DO!!!!!!

[chrome badge]

Yeah, there's also the factor of what you value, if the person skipping certain steps still can't make something look good, there's an element of skill that isn't present. Using the previous metaphor, working hard for your vehicle or having it given to you can still mean nothing to some if you can't even drive.

[sour furnace]

or else the 5-headed dragon skdhjgvfoshdwowog will eat you

[tiny tiger]

Gathering rocks won’t make you any better at using them to make builds, but practising building will and having no build cost will make it easier

[craggy niche]

-# Self-driving cars on autopilot

[fallow parrot]

agreed

[chrome badge]

Autopilot doesn't have 1 thing

Family speeds off

[tiny tiger]

If I wanna get better at writing I don’t start by figuring out how to make my own pen and paper

although a byproduct of that could be me becoming a better writer its hard to say lol

[fallow parrot]

I'm honestly kinda bummed we don't have any option to manually adjust the car's gears. cause sometimes you're only able to go 15 mph and the second the game auto shifts into 2nd you dip down to 5 mph cause it can't go in higher gear

[light moat]

What’s going on here? Something about rocks 👀
cars?

[fossil vault]

And cars apparently

[vocal rivet]

Huh? What game?

[chrome badge]

Agreed, while the community could appear fractured, what players value will always be different in any game.

[fallow parrot]

this game?

[onyx lava]

Can you not collapse copper by digging under it completely? i have one with 5 meteters all around above and below and its still just floating

[tiny tiger]

People arguing about rocks and how you should obtain and use them, you know ooga booga stuff

[merry pebble]

Dont ask, pointless arguing as usual 😕

[vocal rivet]

The game doesn't have cars.

[fossil vault]

I think you are in the wrong server...

[fallow parrot]

i keep ending up in here instead of the other server for some reason

[fossil vault]

Lmao

[tiny tiger]

If you keep going at it eventually the rest will topple

[fallow parrot]

hahah

[tiny tiger]

sometimes there will be invisible connections keeping it up still

[fossil vault]

Have you remembered to mine 1 node? Atleast silver works like tht.

[onyx lava]

All did was start beating on the copper and the entire vein exploded 🙂

[onyx lava]

#screenshots message

[tiny tiger]

Let’s go

Always satisfying popping big rocks

[onyx lava]

Indeed

[strange lake]

Ashlands is pain...

[noble axle]

it really isn't

[strange lake]

It is...

[merry pebble]

Well, it is the biome most focused on combat yet 🙂

[gray sand]

If you have bad food and aren't good at the game's combat, it can be painful.

[strange lake]

Or if you land right between two spawners with zero expectations...

One star archer and like five warriors coming at me with me having a cold staff to hold them off

[merry pebble]

The ember staff is still good in ashlands btw 🙂

[craggy niche]

Add a few Bonemaws poking the ship from behind to strand you

[gray sand]

You went in a) as a mage and b) with one of the weakest mage weapons and are surprised at the result?

[near furnace]

🤔

[gray sand]

🤔

[craggy niche]

[merry pebble]

Oh my, lots of thinking going on 😄

[shy marlin]

🤔

[noble axle]

bro used a single target weapon against a horde of enemies and thought it would work

[near furnace]

yes. you need 2 meter minimum around it and below it to crash them

[noble axle]

🤔

[pliant radish]

Is the frost staff good for literally anything other than leveling magic skill?

[shy marlin]

it's insane against wet enemies

[strange lake]

Or what? Fire staff in fire biome?

[craggy niche]

Surtlings will fear you

[gray sand]

It will be better if Smiffe takes my suggestion about it 😛

[nocturne wolf]

It has a lot of blunt damage and creates an explosion to hit multiple enemies

You should've made both

[pliant radish]

Is the blunt damage aoe as well? Or only what it hits directly

[nocturne wolf]

It deals the same damage to all targets

[shy marlin]

fire staff is 1/2 blunt 1/2 fire yes the blunt is very good

[pliant radish]

nice

[near furnace]

which one of the 1 trillion suggestions you have posted?

[gray sand]

?????

I can think of 4 total.

[merry pebble]

World modifier specifically for starred enemies i believe right?

[gray sand]

That is my primary, yes.

[pliant radish]

world modifier for starred enemies?

[gray sand]

#valheim-help message

[shy marlin]

sorta kinda baked in with vh but yea

[gray sand]

Unbake it is what I recommend.

[pliant radish]

ah

I would like to see more starred enemies sometimes as well, they're fun

[shy marlin]

would be nice if they were split, never gonna complain about customizability increases

[craggy niche]

More stars in normal mode. Less stars in hard+ modes.

[noble axle]

more stars in general

[pliant radish]

Are you stating a fact or an opinion

[gray sand]

1. World modifier split
2. Nerf the goddamn Frostner knockback so the weapon is actually usable
3. Remove Stone Portal from the game
4. Make Frost Staff become more accurate as your skill increases

Are my only 4 suggestions @near furnace What are the other trillions? 🤔

[craggy niche]

When rolling around Ashlands in very hard and every enemy is 2*, it's just pain.

[pliant radish]

why remove stone portal?

[gray sand]

Not getting into that.

[shy marlin]

oh boy

[noble axle]

useless, has no real function

[merry pebble]

I believe he meant which ones are yours from all the ones in the suggestion channel 😉

[shy marlin]

dang it i wanted that convo to happen

[onyx lava]

Lets just remove portals!

[gray sand]

None of mine are in that channel 😉

[cobalt canyon]

Man asks "why remove"

-several people are typing

[onyx lava]

I saw that

[pliant radish]

Literally, I got scared when I saw that

[craggy niche]

Already disabled on my worlds (and no map)

[onyx lava]

Nice I do no map every now and then but im doing a 100% no changes vanilla again

[noble axle]

no map and no portals sounds rough but interesting 🤔

do u also not use magic at all then?

[craggy niche]

Last seed, yes.

The hardest part is finding Queen imho

[cobalt canyon]

Mistlands 😩

[pliant radish]

I haven't seen someone use imho in a very very long time

[strange lake]

No map no portals sounds really cool, until you'll have to leave the game for a week or more, come back and...
Unless you build roads and markers through the entire map

[noble axle]

yea thats what I think of when doing no map no portals

[cobalt canyon]

How do you add challenge without adding tedium....

[onyx lava]

I have only used magic once in any playthrough lol

[craggy niche]

Build a few signposts, learn to recognize mountain ranges, low poly worldgen isles from a distance, bays, peninsulas, lakes, etc. I've learned a few interesting things from it.

[pliant radish]

I default to magic whenever it exists in a game of any type, regardless of whether its good in said game. So far I'm actually slightly disappointed but maybe it gets better with higher skill and more options later

[sharp bluff]

magic is pretty busted once you get to know it better

[onyx lava]

Magic is pretty better when you get to know its busted!

[craggy niche]

For noportals, the main difference is that I sail with bench/boat mats rather than portal mats. Really not too different.

[onyx lava]

I bring all the upgrade stuff with me too (moving base)

[craggy niche]

Yeah, at that point, the boat is the base