#valheim-chat

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stray island
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wtf

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how have i not known about this

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a fucking midday nap lmao

hazy viper
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More like an 18 hour powersleep.

empty nest
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How you sleep at noon?

frozen fable
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just sailed to a landmass with a black forest, went into 2 burial chambers, walked out with 28 surtling cores, that is pretty nuts, i rarely ever get more than 10 from a burial chamber

light moat
nocturne wolf
frozen fable
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posted my haul in #screenshots but 28 of those were from those 2 chambers

royal tendon
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How rare is the yagluth vegvisir? Ive gone through a few different plains and found 10 or so stonehenges

nocturne wolf
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It’s very rare, I usually find Yagluth’s altar first.

plush umbra
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iirc there's an average of only about 10 or so per world (varies due to RNG, there's no strict range, any stonehenge structure can have one) balanced out by the fact that his altar is pretty easy to find by itself due to the biome's openness and the altar's size and unique shape

desert tangle
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why do we have wind indicator if the wind is hitting my boat offset but its still giving me high speed lol

sick cedar
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Need mod recommendation for one that removes respawning stuff I.e: Branches, Mushrooms, flint

sick cedar
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Ah didnt spot that channel

plush umbra
light drift
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Scythes and whips are always my favorite weapons in media. Pumped for scythes. Go beat up eikthyr with it for fun

light drift
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I have nitro. Why can't I set a different name for this server? Server name is grayed out

plush umbra
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only staff can do that ^^"
what would you wanna set it to?

light drift
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Pup, Purebred Of Valhalla

plush umbra
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there ya go~

light drift
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Yay thank you

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Everyone else had their Nordic names on here lol. My vikings name is straight up just pup

strange arrow
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some of us just get whatever the devs decide we get called xD

plush umbra
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my main char's named revna hehe
...how prophetic that was

strange arrow
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one time we all became Derek clones

plush umbra
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good times

light drift
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There's a server for a mod pack of 7dtd and my name became different variations of bear_fucker or Fucked_by_bears

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That's all I am known as in the server now

strange arrow
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those animals

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if the devs here got paid every time they got asked for bears in game they'd be much richer

light moat
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TooMuchDogg, username I’ve had forever lol

plush umbra
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i'm guilty of having switched to winter only last year, but i've been meaning to for a long time hehe never gonna change it again

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i may however temporarily change my title here sometime soon~

light drift
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Few years

desert tangle
bright berry
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damn i don't even know what I'm doing in this game but i just realised i have 22 hrs-
i got it like two days ago- is this another game im gonna get addicted to lmao

vocal rivet
next gulch
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what type of arrow should i be using in the mistlands

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and should i be using bonemass's ability or the skeletons boss ability

burnt glen
next gulch
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yo

spark lily
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He's just getting to swamps. Doubt he can use needle yet. Frost. Or flint.

next gulch
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needle or frost

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also i just got the mistlands

spark lily
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Also use Eikthyr ability.

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With poison potions.

burnt glen
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Why poison?

spark lily
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Cuz bone mass will poison you.

burnt glen
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They are in Mistlands; they've said so in 2 different messages.

spark lily
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Pretty sure boneless will poison you.

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Bone mass

hearty niche
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I can count on 1, maybe 2 hands how many times I can remember Valheim crashing in the 3000+ hours I have in it. It's crashed 3 times on me in the last 2 weeks.

lunar sapphire
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3 fingers across 2 hands? 😄

thorny panther
light drift
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I THOUGHT I had read there was an item that was like one time use to send you back to your last bed. Is that a thing? Or was it a mod.
I think it was meant to be like an emergency bail. But still had same teleport restrictions.

light drift
atomic edge
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where to find copper/iron in black forest?

light drift
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No iron in black forest. Copper will be huge green flat stones on the ground that say copper when looking at them.

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Tin will be small shiny rocks on the coasts. It will be two copper and 1 tin to make 1 bronze

atomic edge
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how do i get surlating cores?

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hugin said something about a dungeon but i have yet to see one

light drift
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These catacombs have cores scattered around. You'll need 5 per furnace or kiln

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Yall just ram your ship on shore and hope the tide helps you when you wanna leave? Or just park by a rock? With my luck the tide would be at its lowest when I wanna leave and I'm stuck

atomic edge
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im too scared to start sailing lol

light drift
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Was kinda just asking the general 😅

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Oh. Draugr just kick your ass!

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I had a deer stew and two stam foods in me and 1 arrow to the buckle staggered me

merry pebble
light drift
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Can you parry arrows o.o

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I just assumed you couldn't cuz normally parry is a melee only thing

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I just static blocked it

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I also died to blobs and don't have a tailwind, so I'm on a slow boat trip 😐

empty raptor
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Does eikthyr work with lox stamina

empty raptor
nocturne wolf
rain flare
light drift
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Well the draugr are responsible for 5 of my swamp deaths

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Blobs get 1

nocturne wolf
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What food are you using?

light drift
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See there's the problem. My food ran out when I got there. And I realized I didn't have any more 😐

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But I also needed my shit. So I was gang running to try and get it back

nocturne wolf
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Have you got it back yet?

light drift
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Finally

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Now I need to go hunt blueberriee

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Are you expected to boat through the swamp? Or just run to not get leechd?

nocturne wolf
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I kill the leeches for bloodbags

tepid prawn
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and you can go in and out of its reach to get hits in without them hitting you

light drift
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I just got swamp raid the moment I got home. Just ran in circles and prayed until it ended. And one draugr chose to stay with the skelly archers and beat my ass 😭

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Usually I'm not THIS ass at games

light drift
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Game makes me feel like the absolute worst gamer.

rotund dust
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And then you'll get a biome of upgrades and feel like a god 🙂

fair kindle
tulip patrol
# light drift Are you expected to boat through the swamp? Or just run to not get leechd?

You can try and leave around but you're gonna get beached most likely.

What I do is dock in a neighboring Black Forest and make an F.O.B. so I have a spawn point/portal.

Leeches are actually fairly slow moving. So treading through the water briefly won't really matter. Leeches are only really dangerous if you don't expect them and they come in a group.

Use the swamp trees to kite Abominations and cover from the draugr archers. Starred archers are very deadly

wide acorn
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Im playing with my friend we got our hands on a catapult so we blew our house up

merry pebble
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Oh no 😂

wide acorn
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it was not accident

digital latch
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hiya! :) is there any idea when Bog Witch starts? :)

hazy viper
tacit crystal
digital latch
wide acorn
copper pulsar
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Does anyone know if they have plans to bring Valheim to PlayStation?

merry pebble
copper pulsar
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Ohh ok, thank you.

plucky rampart
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hallo everynyan

odd helm
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Forward operating base

light drift
light drift
tulip patrol
odd helm
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As in, a little outpost separate from your main base that you use as shelter or for portals/bed in this case

thin glade
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Anyone else notice the Flametal Pillars are a tad buggy?

In my case, dying on the pillar led to the death tombstone being glitched inside of the Lavaithians indestructible pillar (which the Flametal surrounds).

I would have thought it just dissapeared, had it not been for the particle effects shining through the edges of the pillar BARELY.

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Tried some Basalt Bombs to try and make it float, very quickly realized THAT wasnt going to work.

Tried breaking the rest of the Flametal to make the Lavaithian sink, believe it or not every SINGLE ORE BROKE WITHOUT IT SINKING.

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How unlucky, or lucky in this case i suppose.

light moat
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So if you die in the middle of a pillar, your grave can clip inside of it?

light moat
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Wonder if we’ll be able to place mead directly on tables in the witch update 🤔

merry pebble
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I would imagine so, it would make sense imo

light moat
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Did you see that image of a player carrying a sort of tray? I wonder that’s about?

merry pebble
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i did not?👀

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where was it?

light moat
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Wow! Haven’t seen that video, but yeah that’s it haha so cool!

merry pebble
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Ooooh, it seems like the tray is a tool to put stuff on the table 😄

tacit crystal
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Another tool for all base moms out there!

merry pebble
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Thats so cool!!

light moat
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Very nice, thanks for sharing! Also, y’all see the image with the shovel?

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And yeah, I’m usually the base keeper, so I’m excited for all this stuff 😂

tacit crystal
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I'm also the base mom in our friend group Ragnar_laugh

merry pebble
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I am everything at once as i play solo xD

light moat
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According to Screenrant, farming skill will add a chance to harvest multiple crops

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(Sorry Blob, I know that’s not what you were hoping for lol)

nocturne wolf
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Anything but RNG, my terrible luck already does enough to me in valheim

light moat
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personally, would’ve rather seen a buildable station that affected crop yield. But im optimistic.

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I’ll wish you all the luck blob 🍀🤞

merry pebble
nocturne wolf
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If it was every x harvests has a bonus crop that would be perfect

light moat
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So with farming giving a chance for more crops, and cooking giving a chance to make multiple meals- food production will go up a good bit I’m guessing

tacit crystal
wooden tapir
light moat
tacit crystal
merry pebble
wooden tapir
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i have too much barley

tacit crystal
wooden tapir
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i dont like that both late game eitr foods take smoke puffs

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and you cant even grow them

light moat
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Wonder if farming skill will affect foraging?

wooden tapir
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like i feel like i need to grab every smoke puff i see or i never have enough to reliably make food

light moat
foggy glacier
light moat
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I always have a ton of Asksvin meat, even before I had a farm haha

wooden tapir
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running low tho

tacit crystal
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Once you tame starred Asksvin you never run out from Asksvin tails

wooden tapir
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yea my goal today is to find a 2 star askvin

tacit crystal
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Have Bonemass ready, they hit like trucks.

light moat
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Good luck! I somewhat recently tamed one myself.

tacit crystal
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First time I found one in 15th ish night and almost died haha.

light moat
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Dig a taming trench, and please test that it works with regular Asksvin first. I would even recommend taking it a step further and spawn proof the area around the taming trench.

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They tear apart lox like crazy lol

wooden tapir
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i carry a harpoon with me everytime in ashlands just in case

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i would hate to be deep in the ashlands, find a 2 star askvin and go "dang wheres my harpoon!"

light moat
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Endurance and strength potions, curious to see what that could be

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Carry weight and melee damage maybe?

nocturne wolf
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There should also be a negative effect for each potion. That would make them more interesting and stop them from simply making the game easier.

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A strength potion could be something like + damage - stagger limit?

light moat
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Could be interesting 🤔

nocturne wolf
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And I’d make a potion that increases carry weight reduce armor by some percentage

tacit crystal
light drift
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Idk if hugin stopped showing up, or I just haven't noticed him. I didn't see him after beating the elder, mounting the head, or reaching the swamp

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I bet the farming skill will make you get extra crop from farming and foraging. Or maybe even let you do move berry bushes.
I'm surprised they haven't added special little skills at certain trait levels already

tacit crystal
nocturne wolf
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We don’t need plantable berry bushes, we can already plant carrots and other crops

light moat
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Got confirmation that the farming skill will give a chance for higher crop yield

nocturne wolf
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If the devs didn’t want us to forage for an ingredient they’d replace that ingredient with a plantable crop in the recipe.

wooden tapir
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yea i dont mind foraging for berries, its more the late game stuff in the ashlands that gets pretty tedious. the ashlands is already pretty dangerous

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fiddle heads arent so bad since they grow very abundantly in certain areas, but smoke puffs seem to be in every food recipe

light moat
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Would’ve been cool if farming skill affected crop quality instead of quantity. That way we could work hard to grow a level 5 carrot and hang it on the wall 😂

tacit crystal
light drift
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Berries are just mandatory for Queen jam and meads and stew and whatnot. Blueberries are a nightmare on my file to find

light moat
tacit crystal
nocturne wolf
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Clutterous but 100% worth it

tacit crystal
azure yacht
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Grid-snapping crops even if individually seems more probable

light drift
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I should :/

light moat
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Really hope we don’t get grid-snapping for crops, I love my messy asymmetrical farms 🥲

shy marlin
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If you can toggle the grid snapping on/off i don't see the issue with it

shy marlin
light moat
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Whoa hold on are those candles on the table?? 👀

merry pebble
light moat
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Alright, hype levels are high lol

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I know we’re getting at least two new stations- food prep and mead kettle. Maybe we’ll see a bait workstation?

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Wish we got these videos and pictures announced here on discord 😂

plush umbra
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we miss you, twitter feed channel catcry

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-# not that that would've showed up there, considering it's not the main valheim account

midnight goblet
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i think I've found my only pet peeve with this game so far

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not being able to use portals while holding metals

plush umbra
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you can change that with a world modifier

midnight goblet
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I understand why ofc but dang is it irritating

midnight goblet
plush umbra
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aah understandable ^^"

midnight goblet
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I understand difficulty in games and such (hell one of my fav games is elden ring!) but the whole not being able to tp with metal isn't really difficult just kinda tedious

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Though I am solo so moving ore around is a lot more painful than it would be with more people

plush umbra
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it adds some nice down time to metal hauls and makes it so it isn't just free as soon as you've mined it

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unless we're talking about copper, since that's rarely transportable by boat, rather over land, which is not usually as chill.

tacit crystal
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Ugh I hate bat raid even more now.

Just as I was preparing to take two of my recently tamed 2 star wolves with me to the boat, a bat raid starts and they managed to kill my wolves (partially because I had friendly fire on and hit them by accident few times).

Whew, luckily I had two 2 star puppies left, they were inside and safe. Now we wait until they grow up.

midnight goblet
jagged marsh
# midnight goblet not being able to use portals while holding metals

I was like you and wanted a genuine experience too, so what I did before I changed the world modifier is I search my map until I found all biomes nearby and didn't have to portal anything.

After many, many hours of playing I decided I wanted to build and not worry about traveling long distances for metal, so I turned that off to allow portaling of metals

midnight goblet
jagged marsh
wooden tapir
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my only issue is that i lose 1000000 skill progression when i die, but i wont turn it off because i believe you should be punished for dying and it comes down to a skill issue. So i just have to be better. I could understand turning it off tho for a first time playthrough as you have no clue what can and cant kill you

nocturne wolf
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Where’s the fun in dying without punishment?

jagged marsh
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I turned mine off after I learned I could, that's ridiculous to lose so many skill points. I build a lot and accidentally fell into my trench I was building for safety and lost so many skill points

merry pebble
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5% isnt that many 🙂 (unless you are already in the 80-90 range ofc)

wooden tapir
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because it was my first time and i didnt know how big the jump in difficulty was

plush umbra
merry pebble
drowsy magnet
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@median umbra theres grass on the beach but it disappears from view unless youre up close

#screenshots message

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why does this matter so much to you lmao

midnight goblet
wooden tapir
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i still think ashlands was a fun experience

jagged marsh
nocturne wolf
azure yacht
drowsy magnet
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honestly ppl nitpicking every screenshot posted in #screenshots zooming in everything just to check if someone’s using mods or not they are so obsessed its kinda pathetic

light moat
plush umbra
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what do they even mean "pre-generated", vanilla valheim can't sustain unusual world shapes without the continued presence of mods. if something terrain-related is possible in vanilla with the use of external tools, then it's also possible with the game's own vanilla tools

tacit crystal
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Hahah, finally got 2 star Asksvin (in my other playthrough) and instead of 15 ish nights it only took 2 😅 #screenshots message

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RNGsus blessed me this time.

midnight goblet
light moat
tacit crystal
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And it was unnecessary Bonemass because it never got a chance to touch me Ragnar_laugh

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Damn Bros came to disturb my taming process

valid python
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Not a fan of skill loss in general. I think SOME aspect of progression should be locked in. So like even if you get bodied you can say 'OK, if I get my stuff and try again I'll be at an equal ot better chance'

cobalt canyon
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Maybe that could be a Hildir piece, faster skill gain

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Or utility

valid python
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I think skill gain should be based of the difficulty of the monster you're fighting or damage delt. Current the best way to train is to attack something resistant to the skill you are training

jagged marsh
valid python
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Seems backwards thay doing the least damage possible is the best way to train

nocturne wolf
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Skill loss is great, skilled players get skilled characters.

cobalt canyon
midnight goblet
cobalt canyon
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Yeah there is

valid python
midnight goblet
cobalt canyon
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Bog witch utility for faster skill gain?

midnight goblet
nocturne wolf
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If you want faster skill gain, use devcommands

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There’s a setkey command to increase skill gain

cobalt canyon
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Sure. There's also commands to spawn in all endgame equipment - but not many people want to do that

valid python
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Hey I may be considered a wus but everyone should play at the difficulty that's fun for them.

Unless you're in a competition of course. Then play at the difficulty the competition is set for

jagged marsh
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Oh Derek got you, that's the website 🙂

midnight goblet
midnight goblet
jagged marsh
midnight goblet
drowsy magnet
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switching back to normal feels way too easy now

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however very hard mode is totally unbalanced you can hardly parry most enemies

cobalt canyon
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Yeah it isn't great

nocturne wolf
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How’s the parrying/blocking in hard? I haven’t tried any high difficulties yet because my friends don’t want to.

cobalt canyon
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Added in the EL mod to mine, still not great

drowsy magnet
wooden tapir
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why can fish startle boars, that doesnt make sense

plush umbra
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they can't, they're not living entities so nothing can aggro on them, and they can't make noise either (though that would only do anything if they could be aggrod on)

wooden tapir
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interesting, so what is my boar startled by out in the middle of the ocean during the day

plush umbra
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it was potentially hit by the ship.
ohhh, unless you mean a pufferfish, since they deal poison damage to everything within a certain radius every few seconds, actual damage is gonna startle boars of course

wooden tapir
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that could be it

plush umbra
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i was thinking of a boar farm by a shore, which wouldn't have any pufferfish around usually 😅

wooden tapir
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yea i was just confused why my boar would be startled, out in the water, when theres no serpents

tacit crystal
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Going too fast can hurt animals in boat especially if you try to turn at the same time.

wooden tapir
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yea i figured that part out

tacit crystal
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Wolves are easier because they stand still when you toggle them to follow

wooden tapir
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good to know, they are next on the list

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unfortunatly im at a standstill, a storm started and i have to cross a small patch of ocean

drowsy magnet
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and loxes but only if someone is there to ride it

wooden tapir
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luckily i wont need to transport any loxes

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boar transport successful

frozen fable
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do any of you bother with fishing?

light moat
frozen fable
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i've never mastered it

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and with over 1300 hours too i just never bothered with it lol

strange arrow
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it's nice for Mistlands food but totally skippable otherwise

desert tangle
strange arrow
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finding the trader can take a loong time, likewise an ice cave containing one (rod)

vocal rivet
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You can do it any time after you've found Haldor.

desert tangle
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well thats the point most people wont opt for taking a days worth looking for haldor in the early game in their raft lol

vocal rivet
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In their raft? Most certainly not, but then why would they still be in a raft?

strange arrow
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well because it's the easiest cheapest option to cross water before getting into bronze

vocal rivet
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But Haldor is only in Black Forests so they're AT bronze by that point.

frozen fable
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yeah you can make a karve, i got lucky and Haldor was fairly close to my starting point, he was close to the elder altar

strange arrow
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lol i had over 1000 days and a handbuilt castle on my main world before i found Haldor on it

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if all his spawns are way out there which rng can make happen it's tough going

frozen fable
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i always try to find Haldor quickly because mining is annoying without the circlet and the strength belt

strange arrow
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i found him quickly enough on another world so i partially gave up the search but doing it organically would have still took me a long time

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if you don't find him someplace you can reach on foot in yr first world just make another, chances are you'll find him faster that way than boating around on rafts

strange arrow
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to get to the longboat faster you only need enough for a cultivator/forge/workbench upgrades

frozen fable
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i just find trolls and kill them

strange arrow
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having bronze armor/weapons in the swamp doesn't offer a whole lot more than just getting troll armor like you say and going straight for iron

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i like to get a sword early for levelling it

frozen fable
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i like the sword so i dont' have to use the axe for killing mobs even though it works perfectly fine for that, sometimes you want to chop stuff on your way between places and having it worn out stops that

strange arrow
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having some fishing gear in forest crypts as a rare drop/find might improve fishing take-up

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by the time you get to ice caves if you didn't find Haldor it's kinda past the time to start fishing, even if yr lucky enough to find a rod there

weak forge
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Does anyone know if creatures will respawn after you remove a work bench? I'm curious if the necks will return if I remove the workbench plus the small structure

strange arrow
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if there aren't any player base structures left yes the spawns will start back up

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(if you search the wiki for what counts as a player base item you can replace the benches with other things that prevent spawns like certain torches and campfires)

weak forge
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Honestly I wanted to make a "neck sanctuary" since we can't tame necks for some reason

strange arrow
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wood/stone/earth walls are fine for a "pen" and won't stop them spawning

vocal meadow
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who want to play vanilla ?

weak forge
frigid gust
vocal meadow
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ive posted in there and i never get anyone

vocal rivet
drowsy magnet
vocal rivet
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Why are you making things up?

vocal meadow
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its 9:26 for me

light drift
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Ok. Enemy targeting question

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If i out a house on stilts near the swamp for a fob. Will necks and greys attack the stilts?

light drift
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I don't understand what they will and won't target. Bastards busted my beehives during an event

wooden tapir
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there should be a way to fill a hole with water, without being next to a shore

light moat
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Ahh so it seems you will indeed be able to place mead right on the table

light drift
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The physics engine is so fun to outsmart.
"you can't place this next floor. Not enough support."
Place beam on corner. Place 3 more floors and support it there. Remove middle beam.*

Eat shit physics.

fallow pollen
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whys it so hard to find people to play this game nowadays lol

wooden tapir
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do askvin take the same ammount of time to tame as the other creatures?

atomic edge
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is it even possible to parry trolls attack lol

wooden tapir
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yes

atomic edge
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pls tell me how

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also how to find surtling cores

slim scaffold
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ok legit quesiton, how in the world are people able to make these massive bases?

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I'm dying making a one bedroom base and it's already 90% filled with chests and I'm having a damnhard time figuring out where everything is

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also the map exploration is ccrraaaazzzzzzzzzzzzzzyyyyyyyyy, it's so huge, I'm still on first island T_T

light drift
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That's at least my highest and lowest

wooden tapir
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it just takes a lot of time and focus

wooden tapir
obsidian pasture
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WHEN IS THE BOG WITCH DROPPING

atomic edge
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can someone please join my world and help me kill these skeletons so i can get my loot back?

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for the life of me i cannot get past them ive died like 20 times now

merry pebble
fluid hamlet
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Good morning all

cold garnet
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Alriight. So. Fresh on discord, but i've played Valheim a little bit. And Questions to general public from me is:
What do you think about how hard it is to haul large amounts of Metal anywhere? And What do you think about the AMOUNTS you need of it?

Personally, Going from Killing Eikthyr and gathering Surtling Cores, to Mine Metal feels like I've driven a Lamborghini at max speed into a Wall of Ballistic Gel - Violent, Sudden, and when I've gotten deep into it, I'm Stuck and Struggling to make any further headway.

The common Recommendation I've seen before suggests using Carts to haul this, but They don't Really help much. You can, of course, also spend entire hours and days making a path from your base to. . . one metal deposit. To be able to haul extra 5-10 Ore each Cart-full. until you're out of copper to mine.

So, One more Question after all this:
What do you think would make the experience better?

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Is there even any potential for this to end up feeling better?

verbal valley
obsidian raven
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Make a water accessible metal fabrication base (or just your main base). Make sure the path from where the boat lands to where you need it is smooth and cart accessible. Bring cart materials with you to extraction sites with your boat.

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Fill carts with ore and push them down hills. You can repair or clean up the mess as you go

rain flare
# cold garnet Alriight. So. Fresh on discord, but i've played Valheim a little bit. And Questi...

I am going to be 100% transparent in my assessment of mining copper.
It SUCKS.

Legit it is one of the most tedious and time consuming part o playing Valheim due to having to contend with numerous enemies harassing you and then the tightly knotted trees in the Black Forest restricting movement.
Also, the main thing that frustrates me is the amount of metal you need.
2 copper + 1 tin for every 1 bronze is a tedious investment.

The only way to make things easier is to focus on scouting out multiple deposits and using a or multiple carts to mine and then transport the nodes back to your base.

Fair warning though, getting the next biomes’s metal is just as if not more frustrating purely due to the environmental hazards.

This game is not called a hardcore Viking survival game for nothing 😂😅

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The best suggestion I can offer is playing with a buddy
You’d be surprised how much easier it is to get things done with more hands on deck, even if it means needing more materials for upgrades

cold garnet
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Well, Getting Iron is going into the Draugr Tombs, no?

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If you luck out, you might be able to find a tomb nearby the sea, so you can swim your boat nearly to it. As for building bases out in the world - it'd be a good idea, if not for monsters going wild on you for Existing anywhere nearby, and it doesn't feel like there's a reliable way to reduce their insistence on keeping you out of the other lands.

somber halo
cold garnet
# somber halo early game use a troll to smash the copper ore

The problem isn't necessarily smashing the ore, it's the bringing it anywhere. There's only so many things you can make At the place. for one - Base decorations?

If only there was a way to have a larger 'pull' for your cart. . . like an animal. . . or something. . .
Honestly, would be kind of neat if killing a boss related to the biome made the monsters in the biome Less aggressive.

somber halo
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we play with all items are able to go through the portal

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setting can be changed in world settings

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if you dont want enemy to spawn near where you are working place firepits around

merry pebble
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or if you are digging out the copper before you actually mine it then make just a narrow pathway down to the hole and put campfire at the entrance, that way no regural greydwarfs will come into the hole for you and you can mine in peace 🙂

nocturne pasture
cold garnet
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Well, i just wanted to know if i'm not the only one who thought it was an issue

nocturne pasture
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you could check #suggestions if somebody already mentioned your issue

merry pebble
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I really dont see the slow mining of copper as an issue, especially when you realistically need only 1 or 2 deposits to get everything you NEED for the whole game, and when you would eventualy like to mine more you will have better tools so it will be much quicker to mine and you can also focus only on the deposits close to water so you can sail them home

tacit crystal
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I agree it is a bit tedious in the beginning and the recipe for making Bronze could be 2 Copper 1 Tin -> 2 Bronze so it wouldn't be that tedious.

nocturne wolf
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If they change that, they'll just double the bronze cost of everything. If you want to mine less, change the resource rate.

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Or you can simply go to ashlands for all the bronze scrap you'll ever need NeckSmile

nocturne pasture
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yep, a lot of times people dont understand that you just can simply change the server modifier.

tacit crystal
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It is still 100% rewarding when you have everything you need.

wooden tapir
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tbh, you should just enjoy the game if you are still in bronze age, try to learn everything you can while you are there because later biomes are very unforgiving. Im sure they made the bronze age the longest to gather for for that very reason. its the first real biome in the game and you should be learning the basic combat mechanics

nocturne wolf
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That's backed up by other features of the biome too, such as not having a normal shield so you need to learn to use a specialised shield

opal prairie
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Morgen gjall.

wooden tapir
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no matter how safe you feel in your current biome, the next biome will always have a surprise for you that you were not prepared for

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we have all died many times in every biome, until we learned how to deal with everything

rain flare
# cold garnet The problem isn't necessarily smashing the ore, it's the *bringing it anywhere*....

Yeah, this is why I said you should play with a buddy of you can.
The biggest life saver for mining metal is carry capacity.

It’s annoying for most types of metal, but only having to go collecting that metal once or twice makes things much easier.

As noted, later biomes can get lucky with nodes of metal next to water, but when you are still in the Bronze Age your boat’s carry capacity is pathetic

opal prairie
rain flare
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Carts are the way to go here.
I prefer to build closer to the ocean for this very reason.

Getting there from anywhere is downhill 😂

rain flare
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Suddenly big slushious angry tree comes stomping at you with a vengeance 😅

opal prairie
wooden tapir
# opal prairie I'll never forget my first ||abomination||.

for me it was a troll, i was playing for the first time with a friend who got me into the game ( he no longer plays RIP) and we both split up in the black forest, then i hear him screaming to run, and he comes up over a hill and a few seconds later i see a giant head crest over the hill and we both ran away

rain flare
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I remember mine - was a MASSIVE swamp biome and my friend and I had holed ourselves up in a nearby troll cave for safety

First time poking our noses into the swamp and this bloody tree starts doing some kind of crazy gymnastics and walking towards us 😂

wooden tapir
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i later realized why he was running when i died to a troll a few minutes later

rain flare
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Honestly was almost as bad as the first time we met a wraith in the swamps 😂

#

That thing just descended upon us from the heavens

wooden tapir
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im sure everyone remembers their first miquito

rain flare
rain flare
rain flare
wooden tapir
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i remember conquering the mountains, and feeling pretty confident in my combat ablities having played for a couple hundred hours, then i went into the plains

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and we all know what happens next in the story

rain flare
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🦟

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🦟 🦟 🦟 🦟 🦟

wooden tapir
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lets not talk about the impossible body recovery in the plains

rain flare
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OH! TrophyFuling

opal prairie
wooden tapir
rain flare
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Hehehehe!
TrophyFuling TrophyFuling TrophyFuling TrophyFuling TrophyFuling

rain flare
opal prairie
opal prairie
rain flare
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Always fun to learn new things 🥰

rain flare
wooden tapir
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ive died many times in every biome

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but i can say i can confidently get to the mistlands without dying if i really pay attention

rain flare
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Nice!

wooden tapir
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i could probably not die in mistlands too

rain flare
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Was still so very proud of my 1-2 deaths in the original Ashlands beta
Didn’t even die to the boss

wooden tapir
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ashlands still kinda scary to me

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ive died prob 30 times in ashlands

rain flare
wooden tapir
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my most in any biome

rain flare
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Those mobs are literally bloody murder 😅

#

That and the LAVA 🤣

wooden tapir
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well i got most of them down now

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still havent figured out valks with mele build

rain flare
#

I was watching red panda gaming’s 900 day playthrough - let’s just say that I was laughing myself silly with the poor man’s struggles 😅😄

rain flare
wooden tapir
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jumping takes so much stamina

nocturne wolf
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It costs less than rolling, which is one of multiple reasons why it's better than rolling when an attack is short enough to jump over

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With ashlands/mistlands food and a feather cape it won't cost much even with low movespeed

wooden tapir
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i still dislike fighting starred warriors

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but everything else im pretty comfortable with

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a lot of people found morgens hard, but i never had an issue with them

opal prairie
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I have the most problems with Asksvin of all things.

nocturne wolf
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For starred charred warriors, you can jump over their attacks and hit them on the way down, or jump backwards to try avoiding their attack trigger entirely. With a frostner or mistwalker, you can slow their turnspeed and start strafing around them and they won't attack.

wooden tapir
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yea i know about the side strafing, sometimes i just cant 100-0 them tho so i have to dodge some attacks

nocturne wolf
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With a jade weapon you could root them then use a dps weapon behind their backs, but when I try it takes forever to root them because of my luck.

wooden tapir
nocturne wolf
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Asksvins aren't too bad except for their bite, the hitbox is way taller than it looks so I often get hit by that if I'm not careful.

wooden tapir
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i only get hit if i get greedy and try to fit in another hit before my next parry

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but if i just take it slow and dont be greedy, no problems

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i can kill no star askvins in 1 parry rotation so thats nice, starred ones take a few tho

rain flare
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My issues with Askvins was just how many of the BASTARDS keep coming at me 😂

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It’s not nearly so bad anymore, but fighting 3 asksvins, 5-6 twitchers, a morgen, 3 marksmen or warriors was a bit much 🤣

#

Thankfully they don’t seem to spawn in such big groups anymore

nocturne wolf
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There is no too much

rain flare
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For you sir.
That is your opinion, and I’ll respect that 😅

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I won’t enjoy it, but I’ll respect it.
From a distance - in my base - in my bed while I cry myself to sleep 🤣

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Honestly the most annoying thing about asksvins is how much knockback they have when they headbutt you as a mage using magic shield
You just go flying 😂

nocturne wolf
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It's fun to watch them knock other enemies with it though

rain flare
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You know…
Valheim is just such a great game.

Mistlands, Ashlands…
So good and such great biomes to play in 🥰

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I love how the guys just keep making the game better 😍

tacit crystal
rain flare
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I’m still a little salty that the charred forts don’t have dungeons under them or at least a little more variety but still love em

nocturne wolf
nocturne wolf
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The one thing I don't like about starred charred warriors (or any starred tanky enemy) is their health, they just take too long to kill

tacit crystal
rain flare
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And I love swords

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Can’t get enough of swords 🤩

tacit crystal
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I learned to love maces again in my current no death run, especially Klossen. The root effect is so good.

rain flare
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Oh yes!!!

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But jade weapons are just so good!
That and lightning weapons are my favourite

tacit crystal
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Klossen and Primal Berserkir Axes are my favorites 👌🏻

nocturne wolf
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I killed a two-star charred warrior with jade axes and didn't immobilise it once froggi

tacit crystal
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Oddly I also learned how useful Splitnir the Storming is too. I have used it recently a lot against Morgen and enemies that are not resistant against pierce in Ashlands.

rain flare
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Still wish spears weren’t quite so short ranged

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But the very quick hits are amazing 🤩
Even better than the berserker axes

tacit crystal
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Yep, especially when you compare Splitnir to Himminafl and it is longer than that.

rain flare
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It’s honestly the only thing I’d want to change about weapon combat

Rather have a javelin class of weapons that can be thrown or used for short range stabbing - spears could be added as a longer range sword that combos nicely with a shield

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Makes perfect sense compared to what we have now

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I know that speed runners use a lot of spears cause you can throw them and use them close range (plus they are quite cheap to make), but I still don’t like them in comparison to other weapons choices

merry pebble
rain flare
merry pebble
rain flare
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Cause the Atgir doesn’t allow using a shield

nocturne wolf
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It doesn't need a shield because of its secondary attack

rain flare
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We basically have a halberd and javelin class

merry pebble
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you wouldnt use that big of a spear with a shield either (at least not like it is in the game, maybe in formations) 😉 some smaller spear, almost like a javelin on the other hand...

rain flare
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No spears proper 🙈

tacit crystal
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I would be fine with Spears if they had longer range, having 0,1m longer range than knives and less range than axes even doesn't feel great.

nocturne wolf
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They have high attack speed and a unique secondary attack, I don't see why they need more range too

merry pebble
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I think like i will go look for the convo we had about this not too long ago xD seems like we are in a loop ----->#valheim-public-test message

opal prairie
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Thrown spears should be easier to find again.

tacit crystal
merry pebble
past hill
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is my meal for swamp good? - Mutton, boar meat, queensjam

nocturne wolf
past hill
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What else food?

nocturne wolf
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I normally use minced meat sauce, deer stew and queens jam, but you could swap the minced meat sauce for carrot soup if you want more stamina.

urban forge
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will the next swamp update be able to generate the new content in already discovered swamps ?

nocturne wolf
royal tendon
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Valheim just crashed and wont restart, help me 😭

opal prairie
royal tendon
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Yeah tried restarting, didnt work, also works without vulkan now, idk why

opal prairie
royal tendon
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Yrah should be

smoky obsidian
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tl;dr but any idea of a release date of all those updates we saw on this chat ?

light moat
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Nope, nothing really.

frozen fable
# past hill is my meal for swamp good? - Mutton, boar meat, queensjam

for swamp you'll want deer stew, minced meat, and queens jam until you get the second level of cauldron, then you'll want deer stew, sausages, and muckshake. For the boss, you'll want black soup, sausage, and turnip stew, you don't have to make mass quantities of black soup, you'll want some bloodbags for later for various reasons

nocturne wolf
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You can swap the black soup for muckshakes if you want 2 stamina for bonemass

rotund parrot
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3 health food has many advantages for bonemass, having a lot more health regen will allow you to kill it faster since you can stand on the poison cloud on normal and allow you to tank more than 1 hit if you play on hard and the poison will be a lot less impactful, you should avoid the cloud on hard though

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Wooden club always work perfectly, no need to craft a metal club for one fight if you are not going to be using clubs

merry pebble
rotund parrot
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The stamina regen doesn't change so it change nothing stamina wise

nocturne wolf
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It will have a small effect on stamina regen

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But if you're always attacking at low stamina it probably won't even be noticeable.

rotund parrot
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You would never do that

rotund parrot
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You always keep enough stamina to be able to at least dodge an attack

past hill
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Sorry if im slow im just bad at games.

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Its like day 80 aaaand im still stuck in swamp, i cant find any more swamps i already raided all the dungeons there, i cant find irons

frozen fable
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plant the turnip seeds and you'll unlock the second level of cauldron

merry pebble
rotund parrot
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I've been aware of how the stamina regen work, that's why I maximize my regeneration with no stamina food and let it fill back up from around 30% to 100% inbetween attacks then resume fighting

nocturne wolf
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What do you need so much health for, that you can't have any stamina food?

rotund parrot
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I just dont see any utility in having more stamina so I go for more health regeneration instead

merry pebble
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so you dont see the utility of doing more attacks in a shorter time window?

past hill
rotund parrot
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I rarely need such a burst of stamina and don't think it's more efficient

frozen fable
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then you have to find more swamps, you'll eventually find seeds, there usually are at least one turnip seeds in large swamps

rotund parrot
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I prefer to let most thing attack first, I parry and then do a combo, which overall cost around 50 stamina at most

merry pebble
rotund parrot
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But then you have to wait a lot longer before your huge stamina bar fills up. Waiting twice for 100 stamina during 6 seconds or 12 seconds for 200 stamina doesn't change anything to me. But the more health and health regen really help, especially since I play on hard or very hard and try my best to not die and it really doesn't happen often

merry pebble
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yes, but add roughly 2 more seconds everytime you deplete it and it has a bit of time before it starts recharging, so for the 200 while having max 200 would be around 14 seconds but for 200 while having max 100 would be 16, and the greater the difference between the max ammount is and the more times you need to recharge the bar it only gets longer

rotund parrot
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Ill just end by saying that I mostly use 3 health food, I never struggle with stamina because I keep an eye on it. I have great success with it and I just want people to know it is a an option, arguably not the most efficient but certainly the safest.

plush umbra
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stamina refills faster the less % of your current max stamina you have, so a higher bar means the thresholds are further apart and so you get to make use of the 'low stamina' regen speed for longer.
it's not a huge difference, certainly not as big as the HP regen buff on HP food, but it does make stamina food positively affect stamina regen a little bit.

frozen fable
# past hill Can u help me out

sorry i'm busy today, i did give you information that helps you. This game is much more rewarding if you do things for yourself, so you should do it on your own for the reward of it

smoky obsidian
# past hill Can u help me out

take a boat and what it takes to make portal. as soon as you land on a new island, swamp or blackforest put your portal, so if you die you could easily take your stuff back

rotund parrot
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Best way to find swamps is just to sail around, you can easily spot swamp from a distance by looking at the terrain, look for a bunch of very small bumps. The good swamps where you will find a lot of crypts are the one that goes deeper, you will rarely find any in small islands or strips of swamps

strange arrow
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also you can get maps where there are very few substantial sized swamps at all, either way, lots of sailing

reef jolt
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Which weapon is the best for biome mountain?

nocturne wolf
frigid gust
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Iron mace is the most versatile, but ooze bombs and arrows of any kind are super handy

reef jolt
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the iron mace is geadarte? Mjolnir

frigid gust
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No, the Frostner is made from silver in the mountains. The iron mace is made from iron found in the swamps.

reef jolt
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or is the same weapon for swamp

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i see, so we dont change weapons

frigid gust
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You actually don't want to really use Frostner in the mountains, many things resist it. But it's S-tier for almost every biome after the mountains so it's definitely worth building. The draugr fang bow is also highly recommended.

reef jolt
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ok, thanks mate

light drift
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I'm not usually one to mod games on first plays, but that farm grid mod is looking sexy

merry pebble
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but farming is so easy already

light drift
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I just want the snap ability to make it all even and pretty

merry pebble
sinful fulcrum
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or the next weeks maybe

sinful fulcrum
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I remember first time playing and finding my first 3 turnips in ages in the swamp, only for a greydwarf shaman to destroy them

frozen fable
#

ouch lol

merry pebble
light drift
frozen fable
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I had a similar experience where I used my sword on a turnip seed

sinful fulcrum
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I will be remodeling my farm, big farm big exp

merry pebble
sinful fulcrum
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thats smart

heady parcel
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Where's the suggestions discussions channel gone? Poof?

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Or am I just blind..?

heady parcel
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Haha my own fault, it was being ignored. Shit between chair and keyboard...

desert tangle
#

when ur mining something under the ground like a piece of ore deposit sticking out, if nothing spawned after u mine it that means u didnt get anything right? its not underground or a bug?

hazy viper
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Ore only has a chance to drop its metal, so sometimes the node gives you metal, sometimes stone, and sometimes both. If the drop spawns underground it generally bubbles up to the surface after a few seconds.

glad schooner
#

the boats are so slow why didnt vikings invent jetskis

merry pebble
strange arrow
merry pebble
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hmm not sure, could be the case, then it would have to be mods but they said they dont use any

strange arrow
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the devs insisted on the crackdown since players were making stuff with ridic levels on them lol

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maybe some things were omitted/not considered in that

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seems like an oversight if it's still possible with eggs or w/e

merry pebble
strange arrow
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just tested, you can set it to lvl 5 or 10 or w/e but you still get a lvl 4 egg

rotund parrot
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A level 4 egg?

strange arrow
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yes

rotund parrot
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askvin?

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what does that give? a 3 star askvin?

strange arrow
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i didn't hatch it but i assume so lol

rotund parrot
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You know what, I dont like cheats, I dont want to know

strange arrow
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the point is, vanilla commands can't create a lvl 5 egg

rotund parrot
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You would hope they can't do level 4 either

strange arrow
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they can't set the level limit any lower sadly as some things legit go to lvl 4

vocal rivet
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The spawn limit was more to stop the drops from high level mobs crashing machines when they spawn in.

strange arrow
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if that was the intention it was a fail since they can just spawn more mobs rather than levelled ones

vocal rivet
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You'd have to spawn a lot more mobs to get the equivalent number of drops and then kill them all simultaneously.

strange arrow
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have you been on a server that has had 1000 trolls spawned in by a bad actor? xD

vocal rivet
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I've done it myself (with other mobs) during testing.

strange arrow
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they could have placed a spawn limit rather than an item level limit though

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or as well as

rotund parrot
#

I feel like there should be a disclaimer to this conversation, something along the line of Don't use dev commands otherwise you are at a high risk of ruining the game for yourself

vocal rivet
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Yeah, they had lots of options, that's the one they picked. Unless you're being silly, it shouldn't affect anyone.

strange arrow
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funny because i distinctly remember Smiffe explaining they didn't want players going round with lvl 100 weapons

lusty dirge
wary shore
trail pelican
merry pebble
strange arrow
rain flare
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Love big fields 🥰

serene talon
#

you just need the calculus of the gorm

rain flare
#

They so beautiful 😍

serene talon
wary shore
serene talon
#

last multiplayer world we made possibly the worst person cook, now i am cook and we have overflow food

rain flare
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It’s fun making food for everyone

serene talon
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depends on what she sells

rain flare
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Gives every player something to do that they like 🤩

wary shore
#

i dont wanna get rid of farming completely I just dont want to spend 3 in game days farming wheat

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like farming jotunpuffs and magecaps are so easy, even on 1x resources they still generate a fuckton of crop so I dont have to do it constantly

trail pelican
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scythe will probs cut down on the grind

light moat
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Also the farming skill

trail pelican
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that too

rotund parrot
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That's why I keep my gardens small, it become a small task I can do while metal is smelting or to pass the night and you can/want to do it more often

glad schooner
royal tendon
#

How far from each other do the wisp fountains need to be?

glad schooner
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as a side effect, the lox will self feed

light moat
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Now if we can train them to plant the seeds…

strange arrow
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not sure why they even allow mobs to spawned in up to lvl 10, that should be capped at 4 as well, the only thing that even reaches lvl 5 legit is fish and they don't want you spawning them either

trail pelican
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imagine how big a 10 star fish would be--proper whale

strange arrow
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🫸 ------------------------🫷

proper basalt
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Added a valheim server, trying to connect and enter the password, but the only thing I see after trying to connect is ''Failed to connect''... ...any solutions?

light moat
slender saddle
vocal rivet
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O_O Valheim still only uses UDP.

slender saddle
vocal rivet
celest fractal
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2456 - 2458

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at least thats what i did for setting up my home server. that is now working!!!! i got it running on a rpi5 and im well chuffed

light moat
#

Asking for a friend

vocal rivet
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User Datagram Protocol. It's a data transmission protocol, like TCP, but because it has less error checking and the packets can arrive in any orde,r it's much faster which is why it's often used for gaming.

tame jackal
#

hi . is there a way to level up blackforge to level 6 ?

trail pelican
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workstation upgrades

tacit crystal
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Not to level 6 currently

trail pelican
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oh lol, reading is fundamental @tacit crystal

tame jackal
#

so no last green baton and no Dyrwyn level 3 ?

tacit crystal
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Yep, gem infused weapons current max quality is 2

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Including Dyrnwyn

trail pelican
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presumably we'll get additional upgrades in Deep North

tame jackal
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just found it better than the sowrd i used.....

merry pebble
tacit crystal
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^Just were writing that

merry pebble
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HA! Beat you to it 😄

tame jackal
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no one for last boss ?

vocal rivet
#

Huh?

tame jackal
#

i mean to come help ;P

vocal rivet
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Haven't got the last boss yet, so unlikely.

tacit crystal
tame jackal
#

you can spawn with console comands higher level weapons and armor anyway

merry pebble
merry pebble
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And cheat sword 😄

tame jackal
#

sledge is what ?

vocal rivet
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Or, y'know, play properly.

merry pebble
vocal rivet
#

I'd say the majority of players?

tame jackal
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lol because most players never found how to activate console commands ;P

merry pebble
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Or they simply dont want to 🙂

vocal rivet
azure yacht
#

Doesn't mean everyone uses them. Especially when playing with others

tame jackal
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on servers those commands are deactivated anyway .

merry pebble
#

Only on dedicated ones, but yes

tacit crystal
#

On other hand it is sometimes neat to test some things with Devcommands. On other hand, using them will ruin the proper experience for me so I usually keep them off.

hearty niche
#

I just learned if you try to Copy a chest that's in the wild, it says "Missing requirement"

celest fractal
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i quite like using devcommands because you can use them to remove some of the more grindy parts of the game

hearty niche
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I thought it would just let me build a regular chest

celest fractal
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y'know like getting 5000 wood in the meadows. i cant be asked to do that

trail pelican
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I noticed that to @hearty niche and I THINK it's caused by there being some weird chests in generated structure that LOOK like wood chests but if you look again you notice fewere slots

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than the player built version--I think that's why, it's not actually the same object and that's why we can't build it

light moat
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The only time I considered using dev commands was to get Dyrnwyn because I thought it looked super cool. But then Ashlands released 😂

celest fractal
vocal rivet
celest fractal
#

any wood ever

vocal rivet
#

Wood is, as you say, absolutely trivial to get.

nocturne wolf
celest fractal
#

ruins the landscape around bases as well imo

vocal rivet
#

Then set up a tree farm elsewhere?

celest fractal
#

cba

vocal rivet
#

Well, I guess if you don't want to play the game there's always cheats available.

celest fractal
#

id rather use devcommands once im at the point where getting wood is trival

nocturne wolf
#

You can use world modifiers to get more wood or make building free

light moat
#

Could use modifiers for free build, yeah?

vocal rivet
#

Also, true. A lot of people sleep on modifiers.

trail pelican
#

isn't hammer mode in survival, baiscally just surival minus crafting costs?

nocturne wolf
tame jackal
#

console commands ; nocost

tacit crystal
vocal rivet
celest fractal
#

me and my mate play with one rule. once we defeat a boss, we can spawn in materials that are found in the respective biome. its made the game very fun to play casually

nocturne wolf
#

If that made the game very fun, what was it before?

trail pelican
#

@celest fractal basically no cost with extra steps

vocal rivet
#

People complaining about the game being too grindy and then make things harder trying to improve it. I don't get it.

celest fractal
#

its also fun to spawn 30 boar in my friends base as well

trail pelican
#

trolls even more fun

celest fractal
#

damn no need to take it personally

vocal rivet
celest fractal
#

do you know what fun is?

light moat
#

F is for friends who do stuff together

nocturne wolf
vocal rivet
#

Absolutely. Valheim is a LOT of fun.

celest fractal
#

rhetorical question btw

celest fractal
vocal rivet
#

U is for unfriend.

celest fractal
#

womp

light moat
#

N is for anywhere, anytime at all! 🎼

vocal rivet
#

I mean, how is dicking over your mate 'fun'?

#

It's called co-op for a reason.

celest fractal
#

(pranks)

#

its just a game its not like i just broke his car door irl

#

although... that would be funny

vocal rivet
#

Okaaaay then.

celest fractal
#

me and my mates do that stuff all the time. its banter. spawn a cheeky gjall above his base

#

especially with some of the mods we now have. extra creature levels so you can make an absolute level 8 UNIT of a Gjall

rotund parrot
#

I may need to start a list of people never to be played with

celest fractal
#

the game is more fun when you dont take it to seriously

merry pebble
#

There is a pretty clear line between not taking the game too seriously and being malicious/griefing

celest fractal
#

when me and my mates do this stuff its a laugh. no one involved is upset.

tacit crystal
#

To each on their own. Personally that's something I would not enjoy.

celest fractal
#

i could understand it being griefing if you set off siege bombs in someones house, but getting a troll to chase them isnt going to hurt anyone.

nocturne wolf
#

It’s going to hurt the troll who was unwillingly brought into this froggi

celest fractal
#

that is true, but its worth it too hear the petrified screams of my friends as they run in fear

#

or indeed when ive been running in fear instead

strange arrow
#

aka bullying

silver radish
#

If everyone in the group is doing it to each-other, then it's just friends fucking around with friends.

#

I don't see the issue.

strange arrow
#

carrying heavy assumptions that everyone involved knows all the spawning circumstances and agrees to it

silver radish
#

Keywords: "if everyone".
I'm going off their words of "me and my mates".

strange arrow
#

highly unlikely that everyone is fully informed and consenting imo

#

removes the shock factor and most of the fun of trolling someone who doesn't know what to expect

silver radish
#

Does it really matter though? Their group, via THUNDER's words, apparently does it and has a blast.
It's not griefing in that case.

If they were doing it to your group, then it absolutely would.

pearl cloak
#

why is this discourse still a thing?
let people play games they way they want to, they are made for our fun and enjoyment and for the devs's passions and jobs, if the devs didn't want us using dev commands they simply wouldn't let us

strange arrow
#

it's a power play from folk who run servers and get enjoyment out of trolling new players who don't know what to expect

pearl cloak
#

i was pranking my friends by spawning graves with weird names and i was LOSING IT it was so funny, one of the guys was just like "d-did that say shrimp" LMAO

vocal rivet
#

I don't think anyone is objecting to the use of dev commands in general.

#

(Though 90% of dev command use is now covered by the world modifiers)

strange arrow
#

ppl who join them can't use the commands so they automatically have things they can do that the folk who join can't

pearl cloak
silver radish
#

Either way it still boils back down to if everyone is having fun.
They seem to enjoy it; let 'em.

robust delta
#

yea everythin' looks fine by my book

#

just peeps gooin' ham lol

pearl cloak
#

say you're playing a solo game and you're sick of dying over and over because like you have a life and it would take hours upon hours to get all your shit back so you enable debugmode, fly to your corpse, kill the enemies with commands, and fly back. assume you've done all that shit before, legitly, write of passage and all that jazz ("i beat all the souls games im not a casual gamer haha"). what are your thoughts on this?

silver radish
#

Fuckit why not?
Solo game
You're not interferring with others play
SOLO game.

vocal rivet
robust delta
#

Beehive the bees are beeautiful

silver radish
vocal rivet
#

Looked a lot like the old topic.

robust delta
#

ashlands before nerf made me consider it a few times but like it was pretty funny just running over and over and fearing for my life in nighttime lol, but not everyone is like that

pearl cloak
#

i ask because last time i mentioned using dev commands someone IMMEDIATELY said I was abusing them 😂
can't send screenshots but i did find the message
oh hold on

vocal rivet
#

(waits for this to have been me)

robust delta
#

(insert text here)

vocal rivet
#

Having said that, our only other conversation on the server was about Ashlands so maybe not.

pearl cloak
robust delta
#

next time i do valheim i should collect as many apiaries as i can lol

vocal rivet
#

Heh, there I am.

pearl cloak
#

but yeah, i was just bringing up the question because i wanted to gather a consensus
related to this #valheim-chat message that i was talking about before :)

robust delta
strange arrow
#

it's an abuse of power

robust delta
#

what are you smoking
dont pass that over to me

pearl cloak
strange arrow
#

i did say extreme

pearl cloak
#

maybe don't do that though actually

robust delta
#

wasn't needed tho

strange arrow
#

well i couldn't think of another appropriate analogy

pearl cloak
#

It's fine I forgive you 🤍

pearl cloak
strange arrow
#

google isn't much help on the subject either, that comes up with what i mentioned as well for literally every case/search result

robust delta
pearl cloak
#

I was not asking for approval or permission :) just btw

strange arrow
strange arrow
#

it's a clear power imbalance, and to avoid potential lawsuits about abuse of said power, the only way to address it is to either disable commands in mp, or make them available for everyone

pearl cloak
#

Oh wait can other players not use dev commands at all? I never checked

strange arrow
#

they can't, unless they use 3rd party mods

pearl cloak
#

I also don't play online or in servers or anything so I don't know the environment, is there a lot of command abuse?

strange arrow
#

i've seen many examples of ppl bragging about it like the person earlier

#

(and then proceeding to victim blame "they enjoyed so it's fine")

merry pebble
#

#screenshots message @median umbra thats why i mentioned both, i am not sure which one was used, but you can get these with a bit of help with commands (normaly you can't get an item over lvl4 but if you spawn lvl5 asksvins and they lay eggs then those eggs will be also lvl5 🙂)

plush umbra
#

the level restriction affects enemies as well, that's part of why it was added in the first place

merry pebble
#

Yep, but for those Its up to lvl 10 iirc

plush umbra
#

don't see why it would, that's already a very dangerous number for enemies like trolls

#

that's around 17,920 individual dropped items

strange arrow
#

yeh that's wrong, i remembered after we spoke earlier mobs are limited to lvl 4 as well in vanilla commands, that's why you can't spawn lvl 5 fish

merry pebble
plush umbra
#

buuut you're right, it does go up to 10 on enemies, why, and why not for items then

strange arrow
#

or is it only fish then?

#

i'm sure you couldn't spawn lvl 5+ fish

plush umbra
#

yea it doesn't go above 4 for any item

merry pebble
#

I think the game counts fish as items and not mobs🤔

strange arrow
#

ahh

#

weird rules xD

plush umbra
#

but yea this is baffling, high levels are way more danagerous on enemies than they are on items (even fish with their collision issues)

plush umbra
#

if anything i'd give items the higher limit

merry pebble
strange arrow
#

what about serpents?

plush umbra
#

what about them?

strange arrow
#

you can't have a lvl 5 fish but you can a lvl 5-10 serpent?

plush umbra
#

yea, a serpent is definitely an enemy

merry pebble
#

As it Is a normal mob i don't see why not

plush umbra
#

it has health, can't be picked up, etc.

strange arrow
#

but is also a type of fish xD

light moat
#

A serpent comes up to your boat, press E to pick up 😂

merry pebble
plush umbra
#

the reason a fish will swim off as if nothing was wrong after being thrown into lava and kept in a chest for 10 years is because they have no way to tell if they're alive or not because they don't have anything like such a state hehe

light moat
#

Serpent: 😨

plush umbra
#

it's an item that moves

merry pebble
#

And talks!

strange arrow
#

even sings xD

plush umbra
#

i thiiink the spawn level limit was added in response to people spawning in massive fish after the mistlands update, since that can cause extreme performance drops as they collide with a thousand objects at once due to their enormous hitbox, but yea, the amount of monster drops has been a danger for much longer, and a very present one.

strange arrow
plush umbra
#

and just to prove a point, instead of closing the game now, i'm gonna spawn and kill a level 10 troll hehe

strange arrow
#

crazy that that's a thing

#

they should be capped to lvl 4 like everything else

plush umbra
#

waaaait, that wasn't the amount of things they'd usually drop, did they change how stared drops are calculated?

strange arrow
#

haha probably

merry pebble
#

I think it should be X2 per lvl no?

plush umbra
#

yes, x2 of the last level

strange arrow
#

that's probably why they left the ability to over level them, reducing the drops instead

plush umbra
#

so a level 10 troll could previously drop up to 17,920 items

merry pebble
#

And did it give correct number of items just stacked or did it just give less?

plush umbra
#

even stacked, those would freeze the game hehe
buuut i don't think this is anywhere near 17,920

strange arrow
#

capped at 100

merry pebble
#

Yeah the coins are not adding up

plush umbra
#

oooh yea it's exactly 100 (at most) of each type

merry pebble
#

Aaaah, so there Is a cap 😄

plush umbra
#

well, good to have learned all that~

strange arrow
#

still highly abusable in the case of Askvins

#

chickens as well but why you'd want to? xD

#

does a lvl 10 lox get all the associated damage and health buffs?

plush umbra
#

should
didn't test damage while i was confirming that the troll actually was level 10, but it seemed to have the correct amount of HP

strange arrow
#

oof

#

so even lox and wolves are still an issue

plush umbra
#

i mean, damage and health are easily solvable with commands.
the big problem was the drops crashing the game if the enemy died for any reason

plush umbra
#

killall or forcedelete [radius] while standing near the enemy

#

forcedelete also worked to solve the drop issue (in fact it was the only solution) but most people would go to killall first, which would be the cause

strange arrow
#

oh for removing them yeh, i meant to prevent players just spawning in a bunch of lvl 10 lox to clear a zone/boss

plush umbra
#

i mean if they wanna do that, that's their choice

strange arrow
#

not if they capped them lvl 4 like fish and all the other items

#

they capped those to stop players walking round with lvl 100 weapons etc, same logic applies

plush umbra
#

source?

strange arrow
#

Smiffe

#

as well as the items crashing the game ofc

plush umbra
#

to be fair, level 100 items could be taken to other servers, a tamed lox not so much, gonna need mods for that, which is a step beyond their control.

strange arrow
#

bit of a weak excuse not to do it tho

#

if a player has access to the console they still have the kill command, and over levelled Askvin eggs can totally be taken to other servers

plush umbra
#

that's true

#

-# though they didn't exist at the time that cap was added

strange arrow
#

lots to chew on for the morning coffee meeting xD

flint warren
#

you guys ever heard of valheim?

warm sandal
#

nah never heard of it 😄

tepid prawn
fair cairn
drowsy magnet
#

its like minecraft but with a more rounded experience plus theres gravity so trees can fall and kill you

silver radish
#

Gravity? On trees?
What wackiness is this?

fair cairn
nocturne wolf
#

It’s the game with necks ❤️ NeckSmile

fair cairn
nocturne wolf
#

It has Vikings but they’re not as important

fair cairn
#

huh

opal prairie
#

Morgen gjall.

azure yacht
#

Which items?

merry pebble
#

You mean that they stack?

#

Thats always been the case iirc

#

Oh wait, you mean when they are on the ground?

nocturne wolf
#

Items on the ground should only auto-stack when there is too many other items.

merry pebble
#

Then you have probably too many items laying around in that area, game puts them together to save resources

nocturne wolf
#

What do you need 200 eggs laying around for?
(Yes)

merry pebble
#

Yeah 🤣

#

Just put them in a chest and don't feed them for a bit 😄

pearl cloak
#

LMAO THE EGGS
Ngl I was confused too, good to know the game does that

frail wagon
uneven musk
#

Hey, when will the Bog Witch patch be released? Asking as there was a tiny patch today on steam, and the Valheim picture says Bog Witch, but I guess its not in the game yet?

azure yacht
uneven musk
#

Ah, i see now, it was for the test branch

#

noice

warm sandal
#

oh i am so excited... 😄 not long now

vague comet
#

she just gonna be on a uncharted part of my map right? just updated and im ready to find her

summer hinge
vague comet
#

oh bet my bad

mossy knot
#

Started playing this week. What is the fastest way to have a mount?

normal vine
#

is there an easier way of finding the bog witch using cheats?

merry pebble
summer hinge
mossy knot
normal vine
#

mb

mossy knot
#

So, if I leave the mount to fight, creatures can kill the mount and I lose it forever?

vocal rivet
#

Yep.

cerulean nexus
#

Someone who is already updated, what are these new 8 potions and their effects? And what does this new merchant sell?

sinful fulcrum
#

If it is a 2 star askvin, it will kill everything on its path, instead of being killed

glossy flame
#

When we get NPC's?

merry pebble
glossy flame
#

2 traders?

merry pebble
glossy flame
#

Im wondering, if they have plans of making villages with actual npcs or smth

merry pebble
glossy flame
#

in last save yes, but we were a bit in a speedrun thing

merry pebble
#

Btw, traders are without a doubt actual NPCs

glossy flame
#

Yeah, but moore than 3
thats what im wondering

merry pebble
#

We have dvergrs, those are also npcs

glossy flame
#

so far NPC mod is alright, but they all enemies mostly

vocal rivet
glossy flame
#

sometimes solo valheim seems lonely 😦

vocal rivet
#

Then find some friends?

glossy flame
#

No thank you, I like to hop in valheim from time to time, not every day

#

always playing w friends end up with me logging out when we live in swamp and after week its ashland

vocal rivet
smoky obsidian
#

Can we stand hildir chests on an item stand ?

plush umbra
#

yes

smoky obsidian
#

oooooooohoohdàfoghkjdôpfglc

plush umbra
#

relatable response

summer hinge
#

mood

glossy flame
#

coffee

summer hinge
#

gross

#

(dont tell castle i said that)

glossy flame
#

😲 you said what

lunar sapphire
#

Disgusting beverage

#

I said what I said

#

also how is this Valheim related?

summer hinge
#

coffee in valheim confirmed?

plush umbra
#

coffee and tea please~

summer hinge
#

I'll take tea, pass on coffee

crimson sun
#

Hey,
For the new Bog Witch PTR would I have to generate a new seed, keen to play it but don't want to restart my server!

vocal rivet
crimson sun
#

Ta

glossy flame
#

whats the fastest way to get stone?

ivory forum
glossy flame
#

stone farm?

ivory forum
#

yea

glossy flame
#

explain more please

ivory forum
#

greydwarft spawners can be camped with fire

#

they drop stone

glossy flame
#

So I place around spawners camp fire and just wait?

ivory forum
#

no

#

first build a house around it to stop it from spawing while u build it

#

then mine a big box underneath the spawner (it will float)

#

then use a stone cutter to cover the entire floor exept one square directly underneath the spawneer

#

then place a brazer then and raize the floor so its barely visable and fuelable

#

then destroy the house so they can spawn

#

ill get a picture

odd helm
#

Issues related to PTB should be reported in #valheim-public-test. If you can't see this channel, tick 'I want to be a public tester' in the Channels & Roles tab at the top of the channel list.

odd helm
#

-# y'all carry on, don't mind me

glossy flame
plush umbra
#

(note that braziers are the only player-placeable damaging fire source that doesn't take damage when dealing it)

plush umbra
#

hearths take 10 damage if you or an enemy stand on them

ivory forum
#

i dont use them cause their big but i thought they work too

#

oh

tepid scaffold
#

New bogwitch trailer drop but no announcement?

smoky obsidian
#

The pbe patch is out

tepid scaffold
#

Ahh ok so that hidden channel got the trailer link probably

vocal rivet
#

What trailer link?

tepid scaffold
#

at first i thought it was same teaser from the spill but it then Shows the feasts etc

#

Usually rely on the news channel for these exciting drops but i found this one out in the wild

brazen basin
#

ouuu just seen that test drop so exciting!

knotty vector
#

is valheim fun without friends, been thinking of coping it but dk if its fun with no friends🙏

maiden mantle
#

yo guys

pearl cloak
urban ivy
vocal rivet
#

No, in the PTB channel. If you can't see it you may need to get the role from Channels & Roles.

plush umbra
urban ivy
#

ah, thank you!

plush umbra
#

neevermind derek's correct

#

i forgot they moved that

warm sandal
cyan cloak
#

Hello! Do you know if after planting the vineberry seed and it's already grown if you can redo the soil with the stone pavement and not kill the plant?

nocturne wolf