❔┃ask-the-community

[jaunty garden]

Something similar to that with slamming legendaries. Take an exalted piece of gear and a unique with at least 1 LP, and go into the temporal sanctum dungeon and you can slam the exalted on the unique and take one of the affixes and put it on the unique

At tier 2 Temporal Sanctum, you can pick one of the affixes on the exalted and guarantee it on the unique. So if you have a 1LP unique, you can guarantee the 1 affix you get to put on it.

[vernal sail]

Thanks for the analysis Kowalski

[jaunty garden]

Anytime lmao

[storm blaze]

They also have to be same type
1h sword for 1h sword, 2h axe for 2h axe
the actual base of the 1h sword doesn't matter though
you could have a rusty sword with the affix you want and it works fine

[runic grail]

does corruption increase the chance for imprinted woven echos to appear?

[meager junco]

No

[rose solstice]

Guys if I put this sword into an egg (use the replace option) will I get a LP? Or do I risk it will add something else instead

[blazing glacier]

Its random and depends on the legendary potential level of the item

Either way thats the only way you can add LP so you arent really risking anything

[rose solstice]

Would you risk or maybe imprint it and hope for another one?

[blazing glacier]

Its not a rare unique so it doesnt matter, but even if you do get a legendary affix you can still imprint it, in fact it would count as having that much LP for the imprint anyway

No matter what you get its an upgrade

[rose solstice]

right thanks!

[fierce ridge]

Are Primordials being keep around in season 4?

[storm blaze]

yes, they are core

[slender swift]

*will become core

[storm blaze]

They're already in legacy
they are core

[slender swift]

weren't they seasonal?

[storm blaze]

No

[slender swift]

no wait, i am thinking of the ancient items, not primoardial ones

my bad

[storm blaze]

even the ancient items aren't seasonal only

There hasn't been any content in LE so far that's season only
Only when aberroth was released it wasn't in legacy until it was beaten in the season

[slender swift]

i never argued that

but for now, they are still seasonal

until the new season begins and they carry over

THEN they become core

[slender swift]

hence this

[storm blaze]

Seasonal to me implies that they're season only and not available in core

[slender swift]

seasonal means they are part of that seasons specific new content

whether or not they carry over is irrelevant

non seasonal would be for example, if some legacy content was reworked for a season, it would still remain legacy

but anything newly introduced into a season, that features the seasons theme, is seasonal by definition

[faint cape]

This is just arguing definitions for things that don't have a formal definition

I think they understood

[vale thistle]

I mean, if we're being literal here; seasonal actually means "restricted according to the season or time of year" 😂

the closest thing in LE (from what I can remember) was the Imperial Uprising Event and when Aberroth was first introduced, as IIRC neither of those things were available outside of the current season/cycle when first introduced -- thus "restricted according to the season"

simply being themed along with the season does not accurately represent the way most people use the term seasonal; the restricted aspect is important -- as an example, I wouldn't call christmas lights in july "seasonal" despite their very obvious christmas theme

[near vale]

The roll on my Thronshell is 9% inc flat damage reflected. Perhaps it is because I dont have LP Gloves/Red Rings with additional Attunement yet.

Sorry I meant character sheet

Thorn shield costs rage right? I was wondering if that mana stat worked because I noticed they had it attached along with Cast Speed on the Hazelroot on the Maxroll guide.

[faint cape]

No, it's a zero cost skill, even if you proc EB on cast (most rage-based skills with "costs" end up actually being mana consumption like that, can't think of any with a cost other than heal totem)

Perhaps they just wanted some more mana to stay in form a little more reliably? There's not a lot to slam on hazelroot aside from cast speed for thicket

[near vale]

I see ok thanks. With Tears of the Forest and Legacy of the Quiet Forest I never run out of rage

[crystal jackal]

I can’t give you an answer on what’s best without doing the math on your exact gear, and knowing exactly how many stacks of thorns shield you want to optimize for.

You can look at the char sheet and decide yourself. That’s taking attunement and base into account.
Look at the reflect dmg number on the char sheet and try to remove shield.
And then also while spamming thorns.

[south fern]

Hello, do the store points carry over to the new season, or should i spend them?

[storm blaze]

They do carry over

[south fern]

Thank you

[storm blaze]

People spent real money on those
If they just disappeared people would be mad

[south fern]

Yeah i agree, just asking because first time playing a game like this

[storm blaze]

Hope you like the game

[south fern]

if i play more than 10h a day does that mean i like it

[storm blaze]

I guess it does

[south fern]

Yep its really good but the only thing i regret is that i put in too much effort then i realized i joined at the end of the season

[storm blaze]

You can keep playing the same character in legacy if you want
legacy gets all the new content too
Not sure how the economy there is for merchant's guils but if you're circle of fortune it doesn't matter much
Unless ofc you want to take part in the fresh start and possibly leaderboards

Also i guess the start of new season would go faster because you'll already be familiar with the game

[south fern]

Well, i'll go for the new season for sure i want to be with everyone, the good side is i'm still learning and i'll be ready for a new start with more experience

[storm blaze]

Aye
Whay build are you currently playing?

[south fern]

Acolyte lich

but thinking of changing to necromancer

[storm blaze]

Both are strong

[south fern]

Yeah i like the lich but so squishy

[crystal jackal]

what build are you playing? liches tend to be pretty tanky.

[south fern]

Flay mana

[crystal jackal]

haven't tried that one

[near vale]

I see what it is. I have it setup to have a chance to cast Maelstrom whenever I cast thorn shield.

[fallen parcel]

Flay mana its pretty tanky overall if you have the gear

[runic grail]

What do you guys reckon is the fastest way to get a crystal heart on a new ssf character? Just rush 300c and pray for a rampant coast drop on the way, or some other method?

[crystal jackal]

you need it for blinding thicket?

[runic grail]

No, spirit xylem

[crystal jackal]

you need 34 petals and 18k bones as well for that

[runic grail]

yeah but i feel like the heart will be the bottleneck

might be wrong though

[crystal jackal]

it's posible if you're doing many beasts at low lvl

but then also the amount of bones you get is quite low

[runic grail]

yeah that is true

[crystal jackal]

if it takes you e.g. 1 min to "kill" the boss dummy, how long uber aberroth fight does that translate into?

[shut valley]

Hey does forge guard ring of shields also gain unique item abilities? Or is it just raw stats like block chance?

[frosty beacon]

is there a date/time for le tools update?

[lavish crane]

Just stats. No unique affixes.

Forge weapons and forged armor too take only stats of equipment and not attributes, skill level nor unique affixes.

[shut valley]

Thanks. That's a bummer, i wanted to use the primal shield and get extra vengeance procs. Forge guard is interesting but these limits kinda make it more boring than it could be

[lavish crane]

For the primal affixes they should have to use a traversal skill or vengeance skill and they don't use skill anyway.

[shut valley]

Ohhh that's true, i thought it might trigger when i used a traversal but that makes sense

[vale thistle]

IIRC: the boss dummy has 1 billion HP, 100K health regen/sec, and no damage mitigation
uber aberroth has roughly 200m combined health+ward over the course of the fight, some immunity phases, and heals quite significantly at one point; plus around 87% damage reduction
I'd expect a 1 minute boss dummy kill to translate into a 2-4 minute uber kill, personally

[toxic echo]

Its a third party site. Whenever dammitt gets the info and can do it

[crystal jackal]

Now that I know the HP and healing of the dummy and the 87% dmg reduction for uber, i should be able to look up his exact hp and ward on tunklab and make a calculator in excel.
Thanks.

[faint cape]

There is also stuff like frailty cleanse that may affect your kill speed

[crystal jackal]

Yeah. Dmg uptime and stuff like that as well, I’m just interested in a baseline.

[blazing glacier]

Once you get to a high DPS like 50M+ on dummy it starts being more limited by phase transition duration. And eventually you become limited by how many phases you can skip

But yea for LB 10 to 15s dummy was around 50s uber iirc

[gaunt igloo]

are personal items farmable in monoliths? i see Andinai's says its campaign drop

[storm blaze]

Don't think the personal items drop in monoliths

[desert tree]

They only drop in specific zones a'd chests
And once per character iirc

They are fix/set items
There is no rng on them

[gaunt igloo]

ah thanks

was if it was possible to forge them and stuff like get primordial and stuff

[severe valve]

@cunning canyon

[cunning canyon]

Nice, thanks for the info.... missed it i guess

[faint cape]

Their affixes do roll within range like normal, but affixes/tiers and base type are all fixed

[faint cape]

Nah, and they all have 0 FP. Presumably, we'll be able to corrupt them starting next season, but the grind to get a perfect rolled one + good corrupt would be insane considering most of them are intentionally weaker versions of later options.

[icy drift]

@static light posting on reddit / the forums wouldn't be a bad idea either

[static light]

will need to get my reddit account back, after getting permabanned on poe sub i forgot the credentials

[vale thistle]

reddit accounts are mostly useless tbh, I'd just make a new one

[static light]

to hell with that, too lazy to make another one

[vale thistle]

I've tried to contact reddit about technical issues several times and they literally just ignore 99% of the messages they get lol

[fallen parcel]

@static light steam set prices but to be fair devs can affect the pricing if they want

[static light]

that's my point!

[fallen parcel]

Reddit pointless most time unless tou get a direct reply

[vale thistle]

you basically just need to get Judd to see your feedback, and have him agree with you

it's unlikely anyone else will be able to influence regional pricing

[fallen parcel]

So they are charging you like 22$ cad more for a package yeah thats kinda steep when you consider an indie game is around that

[faint cape]

Judd definitely goes through spurts of high activity on Reddit, but even if he doesn't immediately see it, if it picks up enough momentum then whoever can affect it will definitely see

[storm wren]

Can I ask which price do you want in PLN for the hierarchy of supporter packs?

🤔 I want to learn more about regional prices to see anything maybe don't make sense

I'm new for prices of supporter packs tbh

[static light]

price in Poland for the Primal Legend pack = 275PLN which translates to around 76-77 USD, that price should have been 215PLN or around the equivalent of 60 USD

[storm wren]

60USD?! First time to know it worth so much money

[static light]

i mean as long as it keeps the game going i can pay that amount, especially for nearly 2400 hours

[storm wren]

I can't get any fun after 1300h+

extra 200h is for exploring how new contents going only

[static light]

i spent like 1k in this season alone perfecting my falconer and new goals just kept showing up lol

[blazing gorge]

Guys, I plan to get back to LE because of the new season and given the fact that I haven't played it for a long while, I wanted to try a simple to play ssf-friendly build to get used to LE again but I haven't followed the latest changes, what do you suggest me ?

[icy drift]

What do you generally enjoy playing in arpg's? Minions, ranged, melee, damage over time, auto bomber etc

[blazing gorge]

Anything is fine, just not too many buttons to push.

[icy drift]

Hmmm. It's a little hard to suggest a build before the patch notes (we'll have them next Friday) but something like warpath has been pretty consistently strong throughout the seasons. This season specifically I would've recommended reflect shaman or something but iirc it's getting nerfed so it's best to wait and see by how much

[fallen parcel]

Reflect build ,warpath vk aint many buttons they are 1 at most rofl

[blazing gorge]

Ok I'll try that then, thanks for the answer guys

[rose solstice]

Guys I empowered it once and it got LP1. If II empower it again will that get LP2? O I risk it will change to something else?

[storm blaze]

It will not be ruined.
it can either stay at 1LP or go higher
it will not suddenly change to stats

[rose solstice]

many thanks!

[coarse kindle]

LP1 or if ure lucky LP2+

[rose solstice]

It worked guys. I got LP1. Thanks

[hardy forum]

how do I configure my stash tab for weaver will items? Seems like it adds 0LP uniques too.

I want only WW items in here

[storm blaze]

I guess you could put min 4 on the LP so most of them don't go there
but i'm sure the max being 0 is the cause for them to go in there

[hardy forum]

I've just found a reddit thread, that says if I remove 0LP from there so the LP is empty, it should work well. I'll keep testing

[storm wren]

No idea if he like viewing reddit or not, but I can sure he like his discord a lot

[obtuse olive]

What does glyph of envy do? What is the item subtype?

[severe valve]

go get a random item from the vendor and try it out, it changes the item base but not the affixes

[obtuse olive]

Have only 1
Don’t want like lose it)

[severe valve]

okay, later in the game you're gona find it pretty often i would say, more than you'll need it

[icy drift]

Like it can change a silver ring into a gold ring

But leaves the rest of the item as is

[sonic saddle]

dw about it too much, it's generally not that rare in monos and is not heavily used in crafting

[severe valve]

is it possible to get Dex twice on these boots with this one woven echo trading attributes?

[hardy forum]

No

[severe valve]

okay.... i kinda expected that xD

[hardy forum]

😂 worth a try

But doesn’t work

[severe valve]

have you tried it?

[hardy forum]

Yes

[severe valve]

xD

nice

[hardy forum]

It doesn’t show it among the options

[severe valve]

okay then

[hardy forum]

Otherwise a lot of guides would have double attribute slams, as that’s best in slot pretty much everywhere

[severe valve]

true 😄

thanks for your answer 🙂

[hardy forum]

Np

If I’m playing a class, do I get more drops for that class?

[severe valve]

I would tend to say yes, but im not 100% sure

[toxic echo]

There is weighting, yes

Not for sets or uniques, but the normal crafting gear anyways

[jaunty garden]

In general, if I want a double T7 prefix chest with Dex and +lvl of a skill, I should imprint a 1o/77 chest piece correct?

[rose solstice]

What's 1o/77 I'm willing to learn please

[storm blaze]

I think it's item with : tier 1 prefix, empty prefix & 2 tier 7 suffixes

[rose solstice]

Thanks for the translation 😃

[jaunty garden]

Yeah if I am correct, the best way to get 2 T7 prefixes that you want is to have one that has only one T1 prefix, and two T7 suffixes. Then you seal the T1 prefix and add the two prefixes you want, then use havocs to move the T7s over to the prefixes and bam

My question is, if I have a 37/47 chest, what do I need to do to it to prep it for imprint?

Havoc until I get 34/77? and then imprint? Or would that not work because it will always drop with 2 prefixes?

[turbid spear]

havent played this in 2 updates, is this new update going to be good or trash since they got bought out?

[toxic echo]

Well no one can predict the future. So there is that. And since the buyout happened during the development of thisseason, not really going to be much change because of that.

But this week is hype week so why dontcha watch this week and make your own decision

[rose solstice]

I have never found an exalt with 2 t7 affixes yet. I did find some useless (for my build) uniques with LP3 though

[severe valve]

if you wana find them the first step is to set up a rule in your lootfilter so you dont miss them when they drop.

[queen ermine]

What corruption are you at? The first one can be difficult to find if you aren't zooming to highish corruption, but once you have one and can imprint it they come faster

[jaunty garden]

This chest piece is the first one I've found lol, that's why I wanna get it right. Don't wanna brick it

[rose solstice]

I'm only around level 83. Started doing empowered monoliths. Corruption is 100 I think

[rose solstice]

I have a loot filter from some maxroll build. Set to basic. I was thinking changing to strict but dont want to miss anything

[queen ermine]

Ah ok yeah that may be why, I don't think I started consistently seeing them until corruption 200-300ish. A common strategy is trying to get them through Nemesis, but it's never worked for me

[storm blaze]

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[lavish crane]

Does someone know if the number and percentage of players/character that killed uber aberroth were given ?

[blazing glacier]

technically you add one of the prefixes first before you seal, otherwise the seal isn't guaranteed, but yes this is the tech

[jaunty garden]

So what should I do with this 37/47 chest?

[compact wadi]

guy i need some help , when i first started playing this game , i worked really hard to grind through maps and fight /clear all the task, hoping to defeat last boss ASAP ,but when i finally reached the goaland could enter the boss fight , i started to seriously question my abilities , after grinding for over ten or more rounds , i still got defeated who designed such a lousy boss? , all those weird and ridiculous skill moves made my head spin and dizzy, i feel extremely hopeless and don't know if i still have any faith is this game😰

[storm blaze]

Would help if you said which boss instead of just "the boss"

[compact wadi]

if the final boss isn't defeated,will anything else be meaningful?

[compact wadi]

the last boss damn Abberoth

[jaunty garden]

Nvm I re-read the imprinting doc you posted in a video a while back, think I know what to do

[storm blaze]

In that case it's a skill issue
learn the fight and maybe improve your gear.
you can't expect to just go in and kill him instantly without issues

Also we don't know what you're playing or what kind of gear you have so we can't exactly give you help there unless you provide such information

[compact wadi]

ya i know , the materials are hard to find you could say that almost every time you go in , you die

[vale thistle]

share a bit of information about your character: https://www.lastepochtools.com/profile/

and what you're describing is not a universal thing, normal aberroth is quite easy with a reasonably optimized build

so there's probably tons of advice people can give if we know what you're working with in terms of gear and skills

[compact wadi]

i make Necro poison Skeleton rogues

[compact wadi]

k

[compact wadi]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/olVXRxMG

[neon compass]

Necromancer, Level 96

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Acolyte (31) / Necromancer (62) / Lich (16)

General:

▸ Health: 2,178, Regen: 22.74/s
▸ Mana: 114.49, Regen: 9.12/s
▸ Ward Retention: 101%, Regen: 29/s
▸ Attributes: 21 Str / 8 Dex / 27 Int / 8 Att / 37 Vit
▸ Resistances: 92% / 78% / 99% / 78% / 51% / 144% / 223%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 65%, Threshold: 436
▸ Dodge Chance: 4% (119)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 22% (811)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 12%

Used skills:

Summon Skeleton / Summon Bone Golem / Aura Of Decay / Summon Skeletal Mage / Dread Shade

[vale thistle]

someone that knows poison necromancer should be able to help more, I'd suggest asking in https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/480944459866177555 (post the same build link there)

[faint cape]

It's a lethal con build

[vale thistle]

shows how much I play skeletons I guess 💀

[faint cape]

You are missing a lot of damage by not giving yourself dread shade btw

and the 3 points in damned chance on dread shade are useless, you should max out grim fate, get symbiotic apparition, and either put the last point into flesh harvest or spec martyrdom to improve your defenses

[faint cape]

Also in skeletons, you need dread phalanx. The two bone armor nodes do nothing since warriors are disabled, so move those points into more damage (sweeping strikes).

Your bone golem and skele mage don't really do anything, but I'm assuming your golem is there to hold the dread shade, and mages just for traversal?

[compact wadi]

yap

i try to set it tomorrow thanks guy

[faint cape]

No problem. If those small changes don't put you over the edge, Zeckar is one of the people who really optimized poison rogues, he tends to watch #💀┃acolyte chat more than this one and can likely help more

[jaunty garden]

So if this is true, and I suppose it is since it was datamined, does this mean even if you imprint a double T7, most of the procs of that imprint won't be double T7, or even single T7???

[buoyant sinew]

assuming those numbers are correct, it means imprint drops have about a 10% chance to preserve the double T7 and about a 40% chance to preserve a single T7, with the remaining 50% having neither

[jaunty garden]

Damn

That sucks

[fallen parcel]

If you imprint 2t7 most you are gonna get is 1t7 items and sometimes 2t7 but rarely same goes if 3t7 item most time is 2t7 and rarely 3t7 and same goes for 4t7

[blazing glacier]

correct, what's even more fun is that being COF doesn't actually improve this at all

[rapid fog]

What's the T Minus for the hype week's first teaser? 👀

[jaunty garden]

Wtffffff

[jaunty garden]

The Google Doc mentioned the unclaimed trove echo. Is that generally considered the best way to proc your imprints?

[rapid fog]

Yes, but it's giga boring, don't force yourself to do it if you don't like it

[crystal ember]

Make sure you're juicing it with lostwood folly so you get amber at the same time as you're collecting imprints

[faint cape]

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(swag'd)

[knotty tinsel]

[crystal jackal]

This undid so much of the initial thought behind CoF when you compare it to trade.

[lavish crane]

They didn't anticipate that the meta would be full imprint. The strength of imprint were underrated by EHG.

Why they let 2 full seasons so basically a full years without correct it is strange though.
Obviously everyone love imprint and they shouldn't nerf it to much, but not moving any cursor every season between cof and mg is very strange.

They tend to do that put something in the game, and never try to equilibrate numbers until it is the turn to do a full refont of a system, skills, masteries etc.

[crystal jackal]

Did they actually say they didn’t anticipate it?

I mean, they’ve had all the data behind drop rates before they even launched it. Nothing else is even close is drop rate even if you just spam random echoes.

[fallen parcel]

I actually think imprint needs buff or cof needs more buff, not nerfs we grind quite a bit and even then its so annoying to farm stuff, specially getting rings to get perfect mods and actually dropping said mods for crafting is so bad,speaking about 3t7 since 2 t7 is a joke for us, not being able to use troves for rings amulets relics is rough but probably a balance in place for red rings . Probably gonna take my a season to get 4t7 rings or amulets 🤣

[lavish crane]

No they didn't, they probably knew it was strong. But that the whole new meta loot would be opening treasure is probably not anticipate. I would be surprised if they knew and still decide to implement it that way.

I personally would prefer they nerf it, to not feel to have to do the same map in a loop to be efficient. But they should, at the same time, open new ways to target farm exalted with cof bounty and dungeon reworks. I mean they could easily have the titan dungeon chest room have modifier like exalted belt with a life affixes, helmet with exalted skill level affixes , at least one item per chest is double exalted etc...
Or the lich dungeon where you could imprint an exalted and the loot copy one affixes of what you imprinted always t6-t7.

You could imprint some kind of reward in echoes to have more exalted ring rewards.

There are a lot of opportunities to open target farms in different ways, to complement the imprint system.

[toxic echo]

There is always a disconnect of some level between game devs and how they expect a player base to interact with things, and the player base squeezing every ounce of minmax they can out of something while ruining any fun they have of playing the game

[crystal jackal]

It’s an ARPG. The genre itself is about min maxing.

[toxic echo]

Nah. Some of us actually just play for fun

Cuz games are supposed to be fun

And not second jobs

[desert tree]

I haven't use any of the min max strats in LE

I just go through echoes looking for reward, and follow prophecies

[crystal jackal]

Just because there’s some ppl that play it their own way, doesn’t negate the face that ARPGs have been about minmaxing for over 3 decades.

[fallen parcel]

Yep most people that play arpgs do some kind of min max doesn't need to be the most extensive one ,troves being 99% of our endgame loop aint on the players its on the devs who make the game

[desert tree]

People who plays the most yes
But when you see that less than 1% of the character have killed uber, I don't think most people play minmax

[fallen parcel]

Even with troves do you think the grind is like a lot better no,cause cof still needs plenty of buffs all around

Yeah cause they are doing builds that cant do it easily and need the extra gear or the build is impossible I dont likr uber I feel normal aberroth was better made less sped up actual more tactical than a dps check

[desert tree]

Aberroth does require any min max

[fallen parcel]

The fact is there is a assumption that we play a ton so we dont enjoy the game cause we do loop of troves,I play in party and its 100 times more fun than play solo

[desert tree]

I personally don't assume anything
I know I hate running the same map over and over

If you enjoy it, more power to you

[fallen parcel]

It fixes a lot of gripes but doesn't erase the problems existing in game, i can probably grind troves for 1 month to get a great odachi for fg weapons that seems kinda excessive but wcyd

Me too I skipped on troves since 1.2 since I found very boring

But thats on ehg the literal loop every single time before troves its literally spam same echo with beacon and reset that stuff was so boring

[desert tree]

I am skipping troves
I skipped lost/temples

[fallen parcel]

Why they nerf xp when cof shouldn't get nerfs but buffs

Like 1 month a half I spent all my troves and amber and I started playing with random and now we have a group and they are my las epoch buddies basically our own wow guild

And let me tell you it makes the game a ton more fun and bearable

[toxic echo]

Nothing is going to make doing LE echoes less boring except time to actually add things to the game

But...you just said that playing with friends and having fun not minmaxing is enjoyable. Thats the point of games, to have fun

[fallen parcel]

Its very cool when ty to this I can whip out a very good item and if rng helps we with slam I can be excited ,like hey forge weapons kinda bad but with 3t7 on weapon i am gonna try make it work at least way better than what is in the internet guides

[toxic echo]

If doing troves over and over is boring..then dont do it and do something fun. You did that. It doesnt have to be minmax all the time

Thats the point

[fallen parcel]

Min maxing its fun when playing with others,cause when you have to do troves alone for min max it gets stale fast ,at least is not as bad as the beacon min max favor that we had to to I can't with that one

I just hope they start whipping out more content to the game cause right now normal echoes are pointless and a bad investment ,also make dungeons a lot more easier to farm 1 key per use its kinda bad when you have 3k keys

I am at 9k echoes not as much as other but soon hitting 10k

[crystal jackal]

Im pretty sure he’s still doing troves.

But regardless. My initial point was that imprints undid the entire purpose of CoF when you compare it to trade.
And that this is something EHG could have known before they even launched it.
Since imprints are super powerful compared to other stuff even if you just do random echoes

[fallen parcel]

We are forced into this grind i get a 3 lp nihilis i aint gonna slam a 3t5 item on it or 1t7 and 2t5 ,you have to grind cause chances of getting that drop again are slim or hey the slam screw you ,so back to square 1 and keep grinding

3t7 items have this problem ,like having to go through 8 crab rings 3 lp and having to get the exalts for those is a nightmare so yeah we keep grinding

[storm wren]

The interesting thing is you can see most of active le players here are min-max lovers

It's one of reasons why I'm aggressive here when new cycles are living too...

Of course, never stop min-max if it's what you want to do

[fallen parcel]

One thing also like min maxers they keep the game alive or the feel of the game specially in game when you see activity for a game that started its season 7 months ago. Some people appreciate than in ingame chat

[storm wren]

Make sense. They're important for keeping the game still live

[toxic echo]

Forced? Who is forcing you to do anything? Its a game

[severe fjord]

me 🙂

[toxic echo]

Well stop it. Be nice.

[paper beacon]

hey guys is this any good for any build?

and 2nd question, about the ancient area around the map, what are looking for here bsides killing the big bird boss

saw a couple of cool looking weapn in the npc

[weary tapir]

Regarding farming uber, my biggest bottleneck is nemesis the 0LP item( my main goal is 2 and 3LP world splitter)
so the steps are

1. kill black sun boss( 30 seconds or less)
2. kill regular abb ( 1 minute or so with all the animation)
   3)killing uber abb( sub 2 minutes)

currently I have been nemming all the items after turtling and to be honest I cant keep this pace.

I am thinking I can just turtle and nem the shattered worlds ,and high rolled world splitters only and pick up any 1 LP and turtle and chuck on ground.

this should give me more uber attempts vs needing to nem so much without the huge nemming problem I am having.

thoughts?

[cunning canyon]

I would say, this item deserves to have a spot in every fire build. Espacially if these builds lack resistance shred.

Good armor, increased armor, increased damage and a cool effect...

As for me, i like these gloves 😁

[candid elm]

It casts the Primalist spell Tornado, using your Tornado spell passive tree if you've specced into it. I've used it with a melee Druid character before and my only complaint is the added visual clutter from the Tornados made playing a melee range character a bit more difficult

[crystal jackal]

Does uber have some hidden increased LP drop chance?

[weary tapir]

with COF yes.

essentially with COF you get way better LP drop chances vs nemesis/turtle If I am right? not 100% on this

[crystal jackal]

But doesn’t the CoF bonus apply to nemesis egg as well?

[weary tapir]

no idea

this is why i am asking

[crystal jackal]

Not at my computer now so can’t check. But doesn’t the text in CoF bonus sound generic for LP chance?

[weary tapir]

right but the nemesis is a huge time sink

vs just having a tonne of extra drops from abb/uber aber/ and timeline boss

the only thing i can justify nemessing atm is good worldsplitter and shattered world.

[crystal jackal]

Why does nemesis take so much time for you?

[weary tapir]

just so many ubers I kill

[crystal jackal]

Aren’t you buying nemesis towers and just rushing them?
Should be able to do more than 2 full towers in the time it takes you to kill 1 uber.

[weary tapir]

the amber cost and doing them is a problem

[crystal jackal]

Even with the rampant coast imprint strat?

[weary tapir]

never done that strat

[crystal jackal]

You imprint company coast.
Then you reset your web and find the first alter.
There you make rows of 10 nemesis towards from the center straight out. You want empty space on both sides.

Then you run all those towers and they will reveal a bunch of Ramoant coats. Then you kill all those and use their drops to buy amber bags. Which you then use to buy new towers, reset web again and do it again.

I can sustain troves this way and I think nemesis towers are cheaper.

[weary tapir]

interesting, how much time does it add in reality to nem everything then?

[crystal jackal]

Do it once and time it. And see how many egg pops you get per 2 minutes

[crystal jackal]

If you kill uber in 2 minutes, you should be able to kill beast in seconds. Unless you’re like on 10k corruption or something

Give it a try and time it once. And you’ll know

So the extra time is rushing through a regular echo if you need to get to the beast.

[crystal jackal]

You imprint Rampant Coast*

[weary tapir]

I like this idea, ill try to implement it. I needed a solution as I have 10 tabs of loot to nemesis now LOL

[crystal jackal]

Btw. You know world splitter 3LP is 1 in 30 000, right?

[weary tapir]

1:15k cof plus corruption bonus :p

[crystal jackal]

Binaqc has a YouTube video about the strat if you wanna check it out.
He also keeps testing different layouts to see which is best.

[weary tapir]

this is really insightful. I will have to try it as I was suffering so bad. It isnt character strenght or speed just pure amber problem and nemesis issue

[crystal jackal]

https://youtu.be/l3I-RUwBr74?is=LudBrzYLibY8lAn9

here he explains the Strat. Then he tests several different layouts.
And a few videos later he arrives at the ”10 long line straight out”- layout.

But you can do the same thing with nemesis towers.

[weary tapir]

I appreciate it,what corruption is ideal to set it up at? vs higher for better effects?

[crystal jackal]

High enough not to waste time killing everything. You wanna go fast. So depends on your dmg
You also don’t wanna die on the first nemesis.

Im playing in HC. So I did it on 300

[weary tapir]

got it, dmg isnt normally the concern.... it's getting 1 shot

[candid elm]

Rampant Coast spawns way too frequently when Imprinted for being a 7500 Memory Amber cost woven echo

[crystal jackal]

If you die to a nemesis in the tower. You will lose the rest of them (I think, in HC so not sure)

[weary tapir]

you do lose everything if you die, I do know 1200ish is ideal 2000 for really good results. then 4-5k is just a waste and you get one shot too much

[blazing glacier]

Ideal only assuming you do infinite damage and have infinite ehp. The difference between that and 1000 seems to be effectively nothing. Even below, imprints dont seem to care as much as non imprint drops

[rapid fog]

2000c is insane, you don't gain pretty much any benefits after 800, on HC I personally wouldn't touch anything above 500c unless I am specifically done with the character and limit testing

[weary tapir]

base item is affected by corruption in nemesis, so going higher has a benefit assuming you dont lose speed.

[blazing glacier]

Oh for nemesis exalts it seems like yeah. I'm not sure where the 1200 number comes from though, I think thats referenced from the imprint proc rate or something

[rapid fog]

ln(1 billion) is almost twice as much as ln(1 million), what an amazing fast-growing function!

[weary tapir]

yes that is imprint, also when i pop propechis i do it at 5000 corruption has about a 8% increased LP chance

[weary tapir]

you are right, corruption after 1000 becomes a lot less important but applied right can increased odds in your favor.

[blazing glacier]

For MG I could see an argument, I did a bunch of 2k+ COF in 1.3 and didn't find any obvious value. Also haven't seen any data to suggest there is much value.

I could be convinced that nemesis farm is better at higher c, really not sure on that one yet

[weary tapir]

fair enough, so assuming it doesnt slow you down, it doesnt hurt. But if the corruption slow you.. then go down

[crystal jackal]

I think one of you is talking about LP and the other about 2T7, 3t7 farm.

[weary tapir]

prob imprints cap 1200. it seems LP doesnt cap just scales down

[blazing glacier]

Both tbh. For conquered tower maybe it is worth pushing for exalt T7s (I don't have that answer), for LP, no.

For trove farm I'm not convinced beyond 1000c has value for COF, for MG maybe.

The 1200 cap thing was also a bit misleading, iirc it was 98% of cap at 600 corr for proc rate, so basically no difference

[severe valve]

why is it that sometimes a boss kills me so badly that i get kicked out of the monoliths into the end of time?

anyone else encountered this ?

[weary tapir]

what about the how does corruption affect this?

@crystal jackal yeah that strat works, its super rippy and gets the job done fast to nemesis I can just do huge entire rows and fly.

[blazing glacier]

I don't think corruption matters much for imprints proc in general

[weary tapir]

seems fair, just high FP and more LP or t7s pretty much

[crystal jackal]

He’s farming LP

[blazing glacier]

I dont think more T7s, but more LP

Yes to LP

[weary tapir]

a 4t7 will in fact drop more 3t7s 2t7s 1t7s then a 3t7 imprint.

[blazing glacier]

Correct

[meager junco]

.6 to 1.2 based on the corruption. 100 corruption should be 1.0

[weary tapir]

im at 1200 corruption and just straight ripping ( then agian I put a lot of reallly hard slams on my build)

[blazing glacier]

And iirc even 10k corruption would only be slightly higher than 1.0 here yea?

[meager junco]

Well it’s 20% higher

but that caps a lot sooner than 10k

[weary tapir]

oh? that is cool. so sitting at 1000 corruption should be closer to the 1.20 vs 1.0 so corruption does make an impact

[meager junco]

500 is like 1.18

[blazing glacier]

To clarify you mean 20% higher vs 100, not vs 1000, yea?

[meager junco]

Ya

[blazing glacier]

Yea so I think that tracks that past 1000 is probably not worth specifically for imprints, only going further if you want something else corruption grants

But if most of your loot is from imprints then you would optimize for speed

[hardy forum]

Are you guys going to be playing online CoF, online MG, or offline CoF for S4?

[blazing glacier]

One could maybe argue that early season lower than 1000c speed farm is beneficial

[weary tapir]

so it seems a lot of stuff basically sorta caps at 600-1200 corruption.

and unless you got a godly character that can push 4k easy. for the 8% increase in LP chance stick at 1200

[blazing glacier]

Still undecided. So far probably MG

Then maybe legacy COF

Would like to try a giga minmax this season, group play might be fun

[weary tapir]

well, welcome to the party 😉 It is fun

[hardy forum]

Yeah, idk if I will, but my main char is offline CoF, and so much great loot in stash already. Hard to give up, and offline 0 ping is actually amazing.

[blazing glacier]

I say if you are strictly minmaxing COF then 1000c. An extra <1% imprint proc for >20% more monster damage and hp probably not worth

[weary tapir]

you havent seen my character yet.

[blazing glacier]

Oh sorry offline is never really an option for me, I just cant put any amount of effort into it personally when the character data is all just plain text files and not validated

Its a personal issue but I need those checks of online validation

More on legacy vs season in my case

[blazing glacier]

Yeah I mean if you are fully maxed and its no difference then by all means

Even my LB dude didnt really feel a difference between 1k and 2k anymore

[weary tapir]

that is pretty much it I am pretty much fully maxed out I dont feel the difference between 1k trove with 1 and 4 players

[blazing glacier]

Spark charges is weird like that though. The damage kinda just comes all at once, if corruption is too low the initial hit seems to just kill before applying sparks or something lmao

[blazing glacier]

Ah yeah I see your gears, thats pretty crazy

Vk WP is also probably stronger for this than LB anyway too

[weary tapir]

by nature yeah but you need some really gnarly hard slams and exalts

[blazing glacier]

The helm looks like ass to make

[weary tapir]

it is pure ass, trying to make a second one.... not happening

[blazing glacier]

I was pretty happy with my 77+t4 seal, that already sucked

[weary tapir]

I am only doing this because I play on legacy.

[storm wren]

lol... Alright. I must say Derrick had explained the gameplay of omen window so hard but I just no idea how it work yet

It's a gif so I can't zoom in to see what's that

[graceful cliff]

Hahah I don’t know I do love racing some super geared war path’s around some troves!!!

[storm wren]

#📚┃off-topic message
So... Is it allowed for you to say is it right or not? @robust vessel

Appreciated your introduction but your info are missed something definitely

[robust vessel]

I don't know what you're asking about tbh

But some information was left for Hype Week as you can see here

[vale thistle]

me either, the hype week post seemed pretty clear from my perspective

[robust vessel]

That's what we love to hear Lothrik!

[storm wren]

I want to know what the relationship of omen window and corrupted runes and corrupted idols, you can say it's loot part

[robust vessel]

Patience Kirra.

More info all week.

[storm wren]

What can we get from omen window?

[robust vessel]

The rewards are listed in that post heh

[storm wren]

So I say the info miss something definitely

[storm blaze]

Loot.

[robust vessel]

Upon defeating the Omen, you will receive rewards, including corrupted items, the new Rune of Corruption and Timeglass Fragments. At times, you may also encounter stronger Omen Windows that are more challenging and offer greater rewards.

[vale thistle]

IIRC mike already said the new idol "corrupted altars" are itemized loot drops

[storm wren]

Oh then I guess idol altars can get from a bag icon here?

Not sure what corrupted rogue/sentinel/mage/acolyte/primalist items mean

Too less details for loots

[toxic echo]

it literally means if you buy a 'rogue item' chest, you get rogue items

this is not hard

[storm blaze]

And they have the rune of corruption applied to them

[storm wren]

I mean which items are included in "rogue items". Normal rogue gears or corrupted rogue gears? It includes belts, rings and gloves or not?

How many rogue items can we get per box?

[vale thistle]

it's almost certainly the same as opening a class specific cache, just with all the items corrupted

[toxic echo]

it says corrupted Kirra. so yes...its going to be corrupted gear equipable by a rogue

[storm wren]

How will the rank change the rogue items we can get from box if it's in game?

[toxic echo]

what

[storm wren]

Thanks. It mean these corrupted items can't be modified anymore?

[toxic echo]

that is what we have been told, yes

[storm wren]

Rogue items = helmets, body armour, weapons or what

[storm blaze]

I would guess it's items that only rogue can equip.

[timid grove]

Anybody knows if it’s possible to procc conq towers via weaver tree of Ubers? There is empty lines in between ubers. So far not a single tower has procced and I’m 100+uber kills in

[storm wren]

What this panel do? It's too blurry

[robust vessel]

It's called the Timeglass Core, all the details are in the post.

[vale thistle]

it says "spawn an omen window echo chain" and has buttons to change the tier

[toxic echo]

it literally tells you in the post kirra.

[storm wren]

Each Omen Window has a difficulty tier that indicates the risk and reward of the encounter. The higher the tier, the more Fractured enemies you’ll face, the tougher they will be, and the more loot you’ll obtain upon conquering the Omen.

Do you mean here? This panel is for recording which tier I'm on? Or it have more features?

[robust vessel]

Kirra, the explanation is in the post.

After conquering the Greater Omen Window, in addition to the normal loot that drops from defeating an Omen, you have the opportunity to increase the tier of the Omen Window in new Echo Chains, select other Echo Chains to spawn, or earn more Timeglass Fragments by interacting with the Timeglass Core. This provides you with ways to spawn specific Echo Chains or grant Timeglass Fragments.

[storm wren]

Nemesis Chains
High Stability Chains
Rift Beast Chains
Omen Window Chains
Pinnacle of Chaos Chains, which includes a Greater Omen Window filled with Champions

For selecting other echo chains to spawn, I can get fragments in all of these chains to purchase altars and runes of corruptions but the amount of fragments available are base on the tier I'm on? I guess

Loots
Crafting + ? = Nemesis one
stability + ? = High stability one
Crystal hearts & bones + ? = Rift beast one
Fragments + ? = Omen window one
Exclusive unique items + fragments + ? = Pinnacle of chaos chains

? mean what I want to know (I can't get from your post).

[robust vessel]

When you complete an Omen Window, it will reward you with Timeglass Fragments. These fragments can only be obtained by defeating an Omen Window.

[storm wren]

Also I'm not sure does these bags relevant with these chains you list or they're just many goods available by paying fragments

[vale thistle]

there are just many goods available for timeglass fragments, to ensure they're always valuable to players

[storm wren]

So the only loot of these chains is fragments?

[storm wren]

Yes I want to figure out the chain of how to get loots from omen window

[toxic echo]

you defeat the mob...it drops loot

like every other mob

in every arpg

[storm blaze]

But how will she defeat the mob

[vale thistle]

I don't understand, you kill the stuff in the circle, loot drops, some of the loot you get at the end is currency (timeglass fragments) for the new vendor, lol

[toxic echo]

nope. not going to say it

not going to say aaaaaaaaaanything

and we are moving on

[storm wren]

yes, I want to confirm if loots we can get from omen windows is fragments only like rift beasts, then we use our currencies to exchange different loots like runes, altars and corrupted items

[robust vessel]

Any Echo has a chance to spawn an Omen Window.

Echo Chains themselves don't award Timeglass Fragments unless there is an Omen Window that spawns in one of the Echoes of the chain.

[storm wren]

Oh so loots from omen windows can be different, I can get currencies from omen windows which spawn in any echoes only, but which loots can I get from these echo chains?

[vale thistle]

I will give an example: if you do a rift beast echo chain, you will end up killing a large number of rift beasts.. which drop the exact same type of loot you would get from rift beasts anywhere in the game.

[storm blaze]

Kirra do you really need to know everything instantly? Can't wait and see how it plays?

[storm wren]

hah...Wait, it mean chains just a way of let us farming special encounters easier?

[vale thistle]

yes, that's literally what they're for

[storm wren]

🤔 Then memories of observers mean a lot

Oh, is it a new echo? 👀

Fractured lake jump in my mind immediately

lol that hand looks quite cool. 💯 Very creative that a hand follow me

[crystal jackal]

Are the omen window mobs deadlier than the regular mobs in tje same echo? And is the omen deadlier than champions in the same echo?

[storm wren]

lol it's in the most expensive pack only. Nice business mode

The hand can't purchase in costume shop individually by ep, is it?

[storm blaze]

no
all the cosmetics in the supporter packs are only available through the supporter packs

[storm wren]

ep is quite useless...

[deft cedar]

bought Fractured Legend Supporter Pack when do they get added? I can't find it

[paper magnet]

March 26

[deft cedar]

ahh.... i shoulda waited

[toxic echo]

They cant give you s4 cosmetics until s4

[deft cedar]

why sell it early then

[toxic echo]

Why not?

[vale thistle]

I can answer why: if you release a video of something, a certain percentage of people will want to buy it immediately, even if it's not actually available for a week. It doesn't make sense to say to those people "no, we don't actually want your money yet, wait a week please."

[jaunty garden]

Is there a way to search for double T7 or just double Exalted affix items in my stash?

[faint cape]

iirc, 2t7 for double T7 and 2t6+ for any double exalts

[tender rapids]

anyone know when woven legend support pack is leaving the store? like now or on season launch or?

[robust vessel]

April 13th

[tender rapids]

where did u read it?

thanks

[tender rapids]

ty

[robust vessel]

np

[graceful cliff]

Hey I am very late BUT the issue you have there is that they are to stacked. It is better to have at least 4 open spaces in your rows for max free spawns.
In fact after testing it so much I have started doing snake like patterns instead. I have found that to be the best way. Just means refreshing a little more.

Examples

[storm wren]

Chip 🤘found min-max lover +1

Go ham or go home lol

[graceful cliff]

😬

[weary tapir]

@blazing glacier saw your new video! about corruption and 3t7s etc I feel like I inspired it from my deep questioning

[brazen fossil]

should i play MG for next season? Or try CoF? Lol... any insight? Had some bad experience with MG previously due to gold exploit and meta items (like red rings and those 1x1 idols) being way too expensive and many other items has trash pricing bla bla... How is CoF playstyle?

[undone otter]

MG all day every day for me 🙂 haha

[crystal jackal]

Seen several ppl say that there was no gold exploit in S3. And that MG was in general enjoyable.

Meta builds are always going to be more expensive than builds no one plays. For some that’s a feature.

CoF is not as powerful, especially if you want triple t7 slams. Even 2 t7 are faster in MG.
CoF forces you to learn proper crafting in order to reach double t7.

The addition of imprints was a massive buff to MG when you compare MF to CoF.

[crystal jackal]

You’re playing MG on SC?

In short. MG is waaay faster in reaching a super powerful character even if you don’t know all the ins and outs of all the systems.

In CoF you need to fully utilize all systems properly to get to higher than 1LP slams.

[brazen fossil]

alright i will stick with MG lol...

[timid grove]

Thanks! Good to know 🙂

Do they procc a lot? Or is there better value in doing rampant coast? Surprised anybody responded last time lol, rookie move asking a question same hour they released a teaser 😆

[urban basin]

build dependant imo.
If your build requires something like ghostflame needs x4 High rolled, extremely annoying to farm tall mana efficiency idols to even operate, MG is nice. If you want to try 5 different builds out same thing, you switch to new build extremely fast and dont need to farm the items to get the build going.
I like going for crazy amounts of LP tho so I only go COF.

I also like last epoch being the one chill rpg that I have no leaguestart econ fomo and can play at my own pace and not feel 'behind'

I think COF definitely needs some QOL to spend less time rolling in the vendor and more time playing the game
It needs QOL so much, there's probably going to be something done about it going into next league, hopefully....

[weary tapir]

just curious would rampant coast be better? it procs more and it it gives 5000 amber so you can place 2.5 conquered towers with it after.

[crystal jackal]

The more echoes you have, the lower the chance of revealing new ones.

[weary tapir]

@crystal jackal So I did what you mentioned using the rampant coast trick.

1. it works amazing thank you
2. the time it takes even when i had 200 towers all set up is just too much......( Unless they give us more eggs it isnt worth it)

So I will be essentially just farming uber and nemming shattered worlds and world splitters, I will also keep a couple tabs of gloves, nihils( best rolls) for when i do group play and I can sstill nem.

but I wont be nemming everything, im burnt out from it with very little reward

[graceful cliff]

I am talking about farming other wovens proc’ing rampant coasts. Yes sometimes it’s also rampant coasts lines themselves.

[graceful cliff]

I think you might be confused that is me farming cemeteries to proc the free rampant coasts procs.

[weary tapir]

yeah, that was the idea, I think that is the better way than proccing say conquered towers. but season 4 soon so new meta coming up maybe

[graceful cliff]

It’s not just about how often they spawn. That is a very good part but it’s also they themselves are very good.

They are very fast and drop a lot of important stuff. Sustaining amber is difficult late game especially if you are also buying uniques from the vendor.

[weary tapir]

yep, we will see the new changes in s4 and ill adjust farming accordingly. as of now rampant coast is great, and well nem isnt super great with 1 egg

[graceful cliff]

Yup I am excited to see the notes and what the changes will be.
The teasers yesterday looked very promising to me and my play style.

[storm blaze]

And more teasers today

[toxic echo]

All about the rune of corruption today

[storm blaze]

I do wonder how high the % to brick an item is
Surely it's not too high

[desert tree]

99.99 %

[storm blaze]

I'll take it

[toxic echo]

Id be surprised if we actually get told the brick chance. Ehg normally pretty tight lipped about %s.

[sonic saddle]

eh, as someone who did lots of endgame farming CoF prophecies were still very useful in tandem with it

[desert tree]

I mean it's always 50%

Either it bricks or it doesn't

[sonic saddle]

for example one of the things i farmed was a 16 attunement 4lp hand of judgement

and i did that without imprinting

imprinting doesn't help you get your idols

and prophecies are a lot stronger earlier on in your farming

imprinting and prophecies are very much complementary

imprinting is overall quite a bit more powerful but like... there's things it doesn't necessarily do that much better and can be left to prophecies which you can do at the same time while using imprinting for the things it does substantially better than prophecies

but yea trade definitely benefits more than CoF does on imprints

[dusty obsidian]

Did they mention anywhere if one of the corrupting outcomes for corrupting uniques can turn it into rare/exalted?

[desert tree]

It wasn't mentioned

[fallen parcel]

At least unique imprints is heavily skewed towards cof ,why the exalts the stuff people farm is affected so little by cof bonuses it baffles me ,cof should always have an upper hand vs mg in this stuff since you can buy anything in mg .

[storm wren]

hah wait, where this wing is? Why it don't in the latest packs?

I still waiting the answer of what the material of the semi-ring is...

[desert tree]

Probably in the shop as stand alone buy (not part of a pack)

[marble vortex]

can anyone recommend a face tank build for s4? ward generating paly or is there a better option?

[storm blaze]

You might need to wait for the patch notes tbh

[marble vortex]

what about current patch?

[storm blaze]

I'm afraid I don't know
I don't really follow different builds

[dusty obsidian]

Probably judgment paladin. I don't know how tanky it is compared to season 2 but I think it's still good.

[storm wren]

lol Don't expect that my ep will cost on this place...Interesting

No extra entrance for accessing mtx in shop except check them out in game...Alright

[rose solstice]

What's should a decent DPS be on a judgment palladin? I'm level 90. Stuck around 90k dps. Doing corruption 200 now

[faint cape]

Is that 90k dummy dps? If so, that sounds extremely low

and if not, it still sounds low in general... but not sure what judgment normally reaches

[rose solstice]

When I hover over judgement in my actions sklills it says around 80k and I went to dummies today and most I've seen was 102k. Mostly 80-90k

[faint cape]

Ah, tooltip only reflects the slam part afaik. Are you running an actual slam build, aura, or ground stacking?

[rose solstice]

Yea I'm using the maxroll build
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/judgement-paladin-guide which is aura I guess

[faint cape]

Looks like a ground stacker, those can be a little complicated to calc dps compared to aura, but if you know how many you can stack at once, then your real dummy DPS is 2x the tick you get from one ground times the number of grounds you can stack

(The 2x is because DOT ticks pop twice per second)

[storm wren]

🤔 Only intelligence don't have any debuff... Oh madness have debuff too

[wide sentinel]

so who thought its a good idea? just curious?

lose hp 2 res to take more dmg

xdd gamers

[storm wren]

I don't understand why guile will reduce armour... Rogue are quite squishy already

[wide sentinel]

rogues dont need armor cause it goes against ehg ideology, meanwhile every other rogue jumping loops and hoops to get 4k armor

xdddd

[storm wren]

will you consider to get these corrupted attributes?

[wide sentinel]

hellno, only brutality is good

everything else is trash unelss you go zhp

which ehg seems to push more now?

👀

[storm wren]

I'm not sure why I want corrupted affixes lol

🤔 For collecting all of them?

[storm blaze]

Because you could get something really strong..?

[wide sentinel]

u simply dont

:kekw

will be very niche thing on some builds

[storm wren]

Idols placed across one or more Refracted Slots have their affixes amplified or grant additional bonuses depending on the affixes of the Idol Altar.

.......

What I want to read is which bonus are they or what "amplified" mean but that's all in the post

[storm blaze]

boosted, made stronger somehow

Like from 10% to 15% for example

[storm wren]

Omen Idols are a new type of of 3x1 or 1x3 Idol that drop from Omen Window encounters and are always corrupted. These are more powerful than standard idols of their size, with prefixes and suffixes of the same power as 1x4 or 4x1 Idols, and the potential to roll with modifiers otherwise only available on 1x4, 4x1, or 2x2 Idols.

Find something I want to see in game finally

[faint cape]

Only while you don't have frenzy, just always have it

[storm wren]

lol I can't answer you if you ask me what frenzy can do now

[slate valve]

there are items which give you perma frenzy. do you even know the game?

[storm wren]

Oh increase 20% attack & cast speed

No idea, I don't need to remember them

[storm blaze]

Would be good to remember

[storm wren]

They will stay in my mind always if the game is fun enough to play

[teal cypress]

So it's hype week for an update thats been quite a wait. Does anyone know if EHG are doing anything more than posting updates on discord, reddit, and the steam page?

[toxic echo]

for hype week, no. this is it. friday is patch notes. 26th is release

if they were doing interviews or something, they would have been announced by now

[teal cypress]

Feels bad man. 🙃

[toxic echo]

yeah idk why they didnt, but, they didnt. so here we are

[wide sentinel]

oh wait i didnt read properly

[fallen parcel]

Vitality stacking is busted man let's go vk best mastery

[dusty obsidian]

Can someone please cook me a vk void shield throw with fallen from grace conversion smite? Thanks

[indigo timber]

do you need some amount of fp to corrupt non-unique items?

[polar sand]

I don't think so, it would say the fp cost in the tooltip if that was the case, and there's no mention of FP cost in the crafting examples in the post

[indigo timber]

yeah i was thinking it wouldnt either

ty

[faint cape]

They have said earlier that no FP is needed to corrupt

[indigo timber]

nice

[graceful cliff]

This one can actually be pretty decent with nihilis. Having frenzy 100% makes this one not so bad actually.

But then of course if you are like me then you will need X number of good rolled AND slammed nihilis to get 1 corrupted affix you want. 😂😂😂

[storm wren]

The size of this gif I get is 3.89M. How big is it on the original size? (I saved that from the forum, will the forum compress the size?)

[gray sapphire]

sword catcher + primordial crown is gonna go nuts

[storm wren]

If you wonder why I ask the size of a gif:

It sounds quite fun

The max limit is 8M for gif on blog of bilibili

but maybe they're sleeping... hhhhhh yes I should too

[shy frost]

Does this work with flat damage from weapons or it need to be explicitly said on the weapon +50 void melee damage or something like that?

[paper beacon]

why is there 2 version?

[toxic echo]

Needs to explicitly say void. Adaptive doesnt work

[toxic echo]

One is legendary and one is unique? The legendary was upgraded from a unique

[paper beacon]

so any unique can become legendary?

[vale thistle]

that's what legendary potential refers to on the unique

[faint cape]

Yes. Some have different means of becoming legendary, but the most common is through legendary potential crafting

[paper beacon]

ahhh

[onyx wharf]

is anyone else sad they are only adding new skills to rogue but none for any other classes?

was really hoping RM would get something fun

[toxic echo]

no. they are adding the classes with missing skills first RM has all 5 of its skills. and we know pala is getting its 5th next season

which only leaves shaman missing one

[onyx wharf]

rogue didn't have missing skills did it?

[tight gale]

rogue had 3 missing

and getting 2

2 normal ones and 1 bd

[onyx wharf]

so if i want to play something new this season basically rogue is it unless they come with a cool unique for mages?

[tight gale]

I mean they might change stuff

I think they are buffing black hole

[onyx wharf]

can't wait for patch notes. really want to play mage but don't want to get forced into LB again

[toxic echo]

every class gets touched on season resets.

no one is forcing you to play LB

there is no gun to your head.

[onyx wharf]

skill power does...there isn't a mage build out to my knowledge that can compete with LB

[paper magnet]

They've shown a bunch of Spellblade changes. They got a new passive

[toxic echo]

and if there is blink twice

[onyx wharf]

in S3 is there an RM build that can compete with LB? i know noob question...

[toxic echo]

what does it matter if its 5% less effective? you arent forced to play anything. if you want to have fun go have fun with a build

things exist outside of the very best. that can do all content.

[onyx wharf]

i guess it depends on goals

[graceful cliff]

That also highly depends on gear.
If you mean min/max then no LB would be the best. BUT there is always going to be a best per class.

One of the best things about LB is that it’s good with decent gear but has a very very high ceiling. They seem to be on the right track by working on the others to bring them up closer.

Very very few people push far enough to notice the biggest differences bw classes including mage.

[onyx wharf]

i miss fireworks runebolt 🙁

[fallen parcel]

Static orb can compete on bossing even when it was nerfed

[graceful cliff]

Haha sure sure. Honestly I chose LB not just for the speed and dmg but also for the skill expression that it allows. Being very fast with LB is not an easy at all!! 😊

It’s not about one job to me though. I want the best all around I can get while also matching my favorite playstyle.

[fallen parcel]

Sadly will never see its true potential but its a 50 sec kill with lb levels of gear so

[rocky estuary]

is the new season starting super soon

[graceful cliff]

Yeah but if I was going to make a toon for uber kills it would be for 50 secs or a mage lol

[fallen parcel]

Just saying

[onyx wharf]

im a variety kind of guy. I like a new build, but don't wanna be 10-15% weaker than the meta

[fallen parcel]

Lightning blast itself its whatever its the best spark charge applicator that's it thats the dps

[toxic echo]

march 26th

[fallen parcel]

Meanwhile static orb was always all on him thats the goat

[rocky estuary]

sooo is there even a real point in starting a new character

[toxic echo]

if you wanna work off some rust or something. idk. its your life do what you wanna do

[fallen parcel]

If you play legacy yes if seasonal then no

[rocky estuary]

how much am i losing if i dont play seasonal?

i know in other games seasonal is kind of a huge thing idk about this game

[graceful cliff]

Hmm not sure I follow bc the only other answer would be if every single build did the exact same of everything?

[storm blaze]

You'd miss fresh start and leaderboards
everything that comes with season is available in legacy

[fallen parcel]

There is no point on playing seasonal ever so I rather play legacy

[storm blaze]

Economy might be worse in legacy but it doesn't matter if you play circle of fortune

[graceful cliff]

I am pretty sure I would find that boring myself personally.

I am a firm believer in never worrying about how others play their game. My playstyle is not for most BUT I would never let that influence how others play.

[onyx wharf]

with balance comes freedom is my point. If one skill really overperforms and many skills underperform, it makes it hard to try something new and still hit your goals

[rocky estuary]

wait fr? its not like d4 where u have to play seasonal for any new content at all

[graceful cliff]

The largest thing I see in arpgs is so many people not knowing the basics of the genre THEN also having to learn the systems of the game on top.

[rocky estuary]

i havent really played games like this since i was a kid playing d3 😭

[graceful cliff]

You said 5% and are ALSO saying way over performs.

[fallen parcel]

No in this game whatever you do for a season carries over,you aint playing season again after the season is over because your are moved into legacy so whatever gear you got you keep and keep playing

[storm blaze]

There is currently no difference in content between season & legacy in this game
Back when aberroth (pinnacle boss) was released it was season only until it was beaten in season and then released in legacy too
but other than that no difference.

There might be difference eventually. who knows

[onyx wharf]

actually i said 10-15%....

[graceful cliff]

The problem with arpgs and comparing builds are bc they are very intricate things to break down with a lot of factors.

[rocky estuary]

i been looking for a game with that cycle and didnt realize this game had it

i just dont have the free time to play season after season and constantly regrind characters and loot and stuff on a timer, ty for the answers guys

[graceful cliff]

lol there is not much difference still no matter 5-15

[onyx wharf]

see above @graceful cliff

actualyl there is. if you're pushing 1k+ corruption 15% is the fdifference between 850 and 1k

[graceful cliff]

My point is that it doesn’t matter much. It would barely change anything if you added 15% dmg to all non LB. It’s still tons of factors to add in.

Nah not really sorry gotta disagree.

Sure you can min/max but I can take a piece of gear off and not notice.

[onyx wharf]

what are you going on about here?

[graceful cliff]

As I have said a few times it depends HEAVILY on gear level.

[onyx wharf]

ofc. isn't that obviously implied?

[graceful cliff]

Please stop pinging lol.

I don’t know what we are talking about anymore so I started just giving my thoughts about LB. 😊

[onyx wharf]

lol aight

[graceful cliff]

Add 15% to black hole right now and it’s still unusable.

Add 30% and it still doesn’t even come close to the playstyle of LB.

[onyx wharf]

thats what i mean. getting forced into meta due to underperforming skills is what im hoping to avoid

LB's ina really good spot. most other RM skills not so much

[graceful cliff]

Again I call that worrying about what others are doing.

The only thing I can even imagine mattering for perfect balance across an entire class would be leaderboards?? But 99.9% of everyone doesn’t care about a leaderboard?

Then that still doesn’t factor in anything at all but damage right?

[onyx wharf]

survivability and flow is important

[jaunty garden]

Any tips on increasing single target damage? playing HS and having relatively long bossfights on 200 corruption... do i just need better gear?

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/A6P4Nnw8

[neon compass]

Marksman, Level 89

:white_check_mark: This character build is verified

Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Rogue (27) / Marksman (70) / Falconer (5)

General:

▸ Health: 1,416, Regen: 19.38/s
▸ Mana: 195.43, Regen: 11.04/s
▸ Ward Retention: 56%, Regen: 0/s
▸ Attributes: 14 Str / 59 Dex / 28 Int / 28 Att / 24 Vit
▸ Resistances: 62% / 94% / 65% / 108% / 68% / 49% / 54%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 86%, Threshold: 336
▸ Dodge Chance: 26% (804)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 26% (1,052)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 110%

Used skills:

Heartseeker / Puncture / Shift / Shurikens / Smoke Bomb

[jaunty garden]

following the maxroll guide for the RoW variant

[viscid musk]

Try to add more Dex and % inc cold dmg on rings for example. Main dmg will come from dex since its flat dmg for HS, the icicle proc from RoW and 4% inc dmg per point.

Another good source of dmg is %inc dmg while wielding a bow. You can get it on idols, helmet and body armour. Bow dmg will only affect HS.

[weary tapir]

yeah, It is preference. I personally dont like fresh starts I like legacy.

[blazing glacier]

A lot of people farming 1000c aren't doing it because 1000c is their limit, they do it because there isn't much point pushing further. I usually farm 1000c and if you took away 15% power I'd still be farming 1000c. Maybe slightly slower, but probably no difference. My uber kills would probably be slightly slower, but it's mostly gated by phase transitions with fixed delay anyway.

And it's not so simple to just compare power, you talking DPS? EHP? Range? Movement Speed?

Even Meteor can farm 1000c right now, LB just does it easier.

Runic Invocation can probably compete with LB right now, or at least get in the same ballpark. You can do a Plasma Orb or whatever stacker with Reowyn staff and do huge damage with great clear and insane survivability. It's annoying to build though, really weird itemization

[onyx wharf]

thats actually super useful information because im looking for a smooth, ranged dps with runemaster. LB felt great, I just don't want to play it again.

and it's all speculation until patch notes anyway

madness does look really attractive though!

also LMAO. looked up madness and came across your video @blazing glacier

[blazing glacier]

I'm not really speculating, talking about the current 1.3 patch, I'd be surprised if it got worse somehow not really utilizing anything considered broken

Reowyn Fortress RI actually benefits a lot from idols, so there is huge potential with idol altars

[blazing glacier]

Just you wait, you'll be spam running Troves soon enough to minmax your b-hole build, wishing you never sullied the mighty b-hole

[graceful cliff]

Hahaha it was on purpose!!

I am a believer and have helped my friend president Baalz with that exact thing!!!

As I was pointing out I have a very specific play style and LB fits it with all the factors not just speed and damage.
It was my first toon though so now my legacy is done I will be exploring a lot of different builds this league BUT it’s still true it won’t just be a different mage.

Also /salute to being able to word that so eloquently. How rare those words line up in such context is the CEO of chef’s kiss.

[cunning canyon]

My plan is to kill ubby with black hole

[toxic echo]

I am not sure how i feel you calling the skill b-hole. Lmao

[vale thistle]

we need a bee hole MTX now

black hole that spawns bees 🐝

[blazing glacier]

you already can, just saying

[tight gale]

do we know how much inc effect the purple slots give

[cunning canyon]

Yes, i guess

I never took it on a proper level with the right polish..

I played the build the most in S2 and it was hella fun. Other builds sadly were more interestimg then.

I cannot wait to fully unleash my build now.

It just gets so much stronger....

[blazing glacier]

I think this is all we have so far, it seems like the bonuses depend on what you get on the Altar

[tight gale]

oh 25% is decent for what Im thinking

if omen idols can roll enchantment mods that would be interesting too

but looks like they have their own pool

[blazing glacier]

I hope so, idol enchants suck so much

to farm

I could understand 77 being basically impossible, but even 1T7 is a nightmare

[faint cape]

Especially for rare affixes

like crit

[toxic echo]

I haaaaate enchanting

[tight gale]

yeah I wanna do arena before 1.3 ends but I dont have any of my t7 enchants yet

so might go in with t5s

[blazing glacier]

AND to make it even worse, you better wait for perfect roll base idol before you start enchanting, because there is no Gauntlet of Strife for idols

once you get your enchant you are stuck with it

that feel when I got my T7 on a 50% rolled placeholder idol

so annoying

[tight gale]

if they dont change enchants 4 4x1 or 1x4 idols with enchants might be game breaking

[vale thistle]

kinda wish there was idol recombinating, slam together <good affixes> from idol A with <good enchant> from idol B to create idol C

[tight gale]

I hate recoms in poe tho

but I guess idols wouldnt be as complex just having to recomb 2 mods should be fine

[blazing glacier]

yea I'd take anything really

[faint cape]

Or just rip enchants from one to slap on another

[tight gale]

I mean if they just remove the reroll cap in the tombs it should be fine

[blazing glacier]

It's crazy how much effort it takes to get so little progression from idols.

Like from the time you land in 100c to the time you are fighting Abby, your gear is probably like 10x more stats and you aren't even close to "minmaxed"

Meanwhile your idols went from like 40% rolls to 70% rolls with a random T3 enchant

[tight gale]

having only 2 rerolls per map is the pain part

[blazing glacier]

idk, let me throw them in strife or something, better yet, give me an idol imprint slot lmao

[tight gale]

change the top left slot to idol imprint

[blazing glacier]

true

[vale thistle]

that imprint slot is so useless as-is lmao

really irritating too, because it feels like champions should be super rewarding to kill

instead we get to open boxes endlessly

[blazing glacier]

Omen Idols are a new type of of 3x1 or 1x3 Idol that drop from Omen Window encounters and are always corrupted. These are more powerful than standard idols of their size, with prefixes and suffixes of the same power as 1x4 or 4x1 Idols, and the potential to roll with modifiers otherwise only available on 1x4, 4x1, or 2x2 Idols.```
Does this mean these 1x3 idols get the 1x4 affixes as options?

why does it say "modifier" specifically, and not "affix"

[vale thistle]

omen idols can roll basically anything it seems

normally restricted to 2x2 -> omen idol doesn't care, it can roll that

[blazing glacier]

theres some potentially cracked combos, because some suffixes / prefixes are inverted depending on slot. Eg. normally X idol can only get Y stat as prefix, and Z idol can only get Y stat as suffix

then maybe you can combine and get Y stat twice

[toxic echo]

Yes.

Modifier i think is used here because the idols use the same affixes, but the bigger idols have a different modifier. Kinda like how body armor works

[faint cape]

Seems it can roll potentially any 1x4, 4x1, or 2x2

and since it has the multiplier of 1x4 / 4x1 idols, it means the 2x2 idol mods roll higher than you could get otherwise

[faint cape]

My guess is creative writing

[serene relic]

i assume this is saying 20% more multi in total for all brutality and not up to 20% more per point

[toxic echo]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[hybrid heart]

I sat out for Season 3; do people currently playing feel like some of their issues with the game are being addressed with Season 4 potentially? If so, what?

[weary tapir]

I think reweaving has 3 rerolls.

[blazing glacier]

Sure, more agency and creative expression opportunity in build crafting. More end game itemization variety. Difficulty tier between Abby and Uber, etc.

[hybrid heart]

Sweet

Looking forward to it, ty

[near vale]

What's generally considered the safest order to fight the harbingers?

[lavish crane]

Hi @fallen parcel https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435244693505310731/1483388208866660352/20260317_045454.jpg?ex=69bb112d&is=69b9bfad&hm=3dc33284efb2d73a156cc46630be8d398896f26b4c0c67174e163c8c1858e470&

These seems nice but does these boots have a workfull build?
Raptors ? Frogs?

[fallen parcel]

They are bis for bear but it should be ok for frogs idk about raptors as long you get good access to more damage they are pretty good since you get tons of flat from it via maelstrom procs

[lavish crane]

Bear oh ok .
Thx

[maiden yarrow]

anyone has an idea why my selectins skins are not applied after restarting the game?

I've previously moved my steam library to my new nvme ssd, after which the problem occured. But even reinstalling it on either SSD now causes this bug.

[storm blaze]

#💬┃general message
This should work

[keen lily]

What were some nicely woprking builds in Season 3? Didn't play much with my Abomination Necro

[misty matrix]

hello, how do i obtain this please? i already spent 10 of them and failed to defeat aberoth 🙁

[vale thistle]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/items/IIzAMBZVB2LSA

[misty matrix]

ty very much

[azure obsidian]

The first 10 are guaranteed from each of the harbingers, one per. After that, they are a %chance to drop from any harbinger fight. (Although I think it has to be 300+ corruption)

[primal kestrel]

What info will todays hype post be about?

[cunning canyon]

the new Rogue skills and skill adjustments for other classes 🙂

In the very last section of the hype week posts, they leave a hint to the next contents.

[sonic saddle]

Plz eb companion autotargetting
Plz eb companion autotargetting
Plz eb companion autotargetting

[lapis topaz]

Anyone know where to get a shattered worlds relic?

[azure obsidian]

uber abberoth only (threshold of eternity woven echo)

[desert tree]

You need to kill Uber Aberroth

[misty matrix]

is warpath a channelling?

[desert tree]

Yup

[misty matrix]

nice, thx

[hallow lotus]

does passives use overcap block chance or only 100% ?

[icy drift]

100%

Otherwise it'd say uncapped block chance

[hallow lotus]

so there is no point to go more then 100% of block, even for these passive

[icy drift]

Correct

[faint cape]

Block chance doesn't have a cap

[icy drift]

Mmmmmmmm actually you might be right

[faint cape]

Pretty much just resists and endurance are the only stats with a cap

[icy drift]

It doesn't do the parentheses right

[faint cape]

Right

[icy drift]

I don't play block enough, got misled by LET lul

@hallow lotus disregard what I said I think toast is correct. Should work past 100%

I'd test it though to make sure

[maiden yarrow]

this helped, tyvm

[hallow lotus]

so this passive will also work right? for example I have 275% block chance = 225% mana regen?

[desert tree]

Yup

[thin ermine]

Hey does anyone here have a fix for the issue in the Spirit of Fire timeline where the soul furnaces dont spawn during the second timeline quest?

I've verfied my files once, and restarted my game numerous times but it always seems to leave 1 or 2 out

[desert tree]

Wait for next patch

They have been invisible for a long time

[thin ermine]

Well thats a bummer

[toxic echo]

you can do a different lvl 90 for your empowered unlock and just never do that specific quest

[civic python]

So your character is essentially softlocked if that happens

How is this acceptable

Dafuq

[thin ermine]

Is it not possible to get the blessing from that timeline?

[toxic echo]

once you get to empowered you dont do the entry quests @thin ermine

just the final one, so you skip that second bugged spawn

[toxic echo]

so there is no softlock at all actually

if you read everything i said

[desert tree]

Also invisible doesn't mean they are not here

It's pretty annoying but you can kill them

With aoe or minions it's "easy", doable is a better word

[civic python]

bek houwe

[azure obsidian]

If I remember correctly, they don't get map tags for their locations, do they?

Been a long while that I went through that and I still finished the quest back then. Aside from some back tracking and exploring the whole map a 2nd time...

[thin ermine]

Yee i tried summoning some minions but they dont do the trick for me

Ill just get the blessing the other way then ty

[azure obsidian]

But yeah, normal blessings are capped at about where the empowered versions begin.

Normal can only give you a choice of 3, and in empowered at 200 corruption you get choice of 5. Which translates to fewer bosses to kill until you get your blessing, on average.

[alpine pendant]

saying it in dutch instead of english doesn't make it nicer

[desert tree]

@civic python play nicer
First and only warning

[knotty tinsel]

do we know if Blade Conduit is on the left or right side of the SB tree yet?

[toxic echo]

dont think so, its not in the current tree

so could be anywhere

[onyx wharf]

Oh what’s yalls take on the mage update info today? Anything interesting you?

[untold imp]

Is this upcoming update the one where it’s going to be released onto PS5 or is that a different one?

[quiet terrace]

Different one

PS5 closer to early next year than anything else

[toxic echo]

the ps release is coming with the expansion, which is more than likely next year but there is no real time on it. we do know s5 is coming before that

[untold imp]

Oh okay I thought it was in the seeing of this year. That’s kind of a bummer.

[obtuse olive]

hello)
what does Julra mean?

[vale thistle]

Julra is the Temporal Sanctum boss, where you turn uniques into legendaries

she drops items with guaranteed 1LP

and I think she does that to ensure players have something they can use in the Eternity Cache, just in case someone randomly decided to run Temporal Sanctum with no actual plan in mind

[toxic echo]

logi hunger does not drop from Julra tho. that is a spirits of fire timeline boss drop

[obtuse olive]

yeah, know it

[obtuse olive]

thanks

[faint cape]

Yeah, really that checkbox should turn disabled on boss drops other than Julra's, but since it doesn't, you just need to know that neither of those two things listed apply

[upbeat imp]

Based on the latest hype post, I guess bladedancer will become a new popular/meta mastery?

Not sure why no spoilers for marksman and falconer

[toxic echo]

it will probly be flavor of the month, like most of the recently touched classes

people like playing the new stuff

[upbeat imp]

Oh. I wish another masteries from rogue can get some love too

[toxic echo]

there were plenty of mage/spellblade stuff today

and every class gets something on patchnotes

[upbeat imp]

Maybe, wait for Friday

[faint cape]

Both the new skills are usable by all three masteries. It's likely that falconer could still be better than bladedancer at using them

and of course, one of them is even a bow attack

[quasi hatch]

Shadow Rend Multishot Marksman, here I come

[indigo scarab]

Can shadows cast blade storm? 🙂

[viscid musk]

Only if there is a secret node in the skilltree we haven't seen yet. Otherwise no.

[pearl elm]

when I select custome copsmetic in last epoch and start a new game m,y cosmetics are removed, is this a glitch and if so is it fixed or am I missing a step? thanks in advance

[graceful cliff]

Fix for that is the first pin. 🙂

[toxic echo]

https://discordapp.com/channels/368953963267096586/414295382625878037/1432741243200475148

[hazy minnow]

I've got 1.1 GB update?

[toxic echo]

just adding the packs into the store

[hazy minnow]

New update already?

i see

[toxic echo]

no

next week

and there is no way an entire season patch is only 1gb

[hazy minnow]

1.1GB

[pearl elm]

I am more excited for when the NEW class with it's own style comes into play 😄

[toxic echo]

you know what you are right, enjoy the new patch

[pearl elm]

but the new cosmetics etc for next update is epic to, LOVE last epoch

[desert tree]

yo ! patch up

[toxic echo]

insane. enjoy all the amazing new things that can only be found in a mere 1gb patch

sorry sorry. 1.1

[desert tree]

Jealous

[toxic echo]

size matters

[desert tree]

Alright, I did my part

Now I am bug free for the season

Thats how it works , right ?

[storm blaze]

Surely it works that way

[desert tree]

Thanks to the new krafton AI

[toxic echo]

you will definately not play swarmblade this season, yes

[tight gale]

sepulchre is 3 reweaving is 2

[weary tapir]

ah that is right, I forgot which one it is. But if more rerolls are needed. sepulchre could be a solution.

[weary tapir]

got a question, I now have a bunch of super rare 2LP and 3LP items I refuse to slam because I literally can't get a good exalt. Mainly because Julra.

Any strats or anything i can do to help reduce the pain so i will actually one day slam them?

[desert tree]

2 shots of vodka before slam

If it fails > 2 more

If it succed > 2 more to celebrate

[weary tapir]

seems like the only option LOL

[desert tree]

Well ... no 😄

It doesnt have to be vodka

[faint cape]

I find good results using a stout instead

[desert tree]

Toast !

Did you see in #🐺┃primalist

[weary tapir]

i have some tequila at home, that will do.

[faint cape]

I might have or might not, looks like I definitely missed a lot of stuff since around the hype week post time

[desert tree]

No you did

It was Shatter Totem Brutality

[sour trout]

I forgot their release schedule, when do they release patch notes? Really pumped for new league.

[icy drift]

Friday same time as the hype posts

[crystal ember]

Does anyone know if the req nest primordial idol affects the enchanted stats on an idol or if it's just the base ones

[wide relic]

It also affects enchanted affixes

[crystal ember]

ooft - thanks!

[onyx wharf]

what are solid mage league starts? saw a video of spreading flames with fireball? any other options?

[vale thistle]

mana strike + glacier is decent, that's what I used last time I levelled a mage

[river drift]

Actual league start, or just lvling? you can do a lot of swapping of skills while lvling without issues

[onyx wharf]

actual like SCF

[river drift]

last season i played shatter strike spellblade up to like level 90 and then swapped over to lightning blast RM

Ofc we dont have full patchnotes yet for next season so there are probably new builds available. I'm really hoping some meteor or black hole build will be available relatively early

[onyx wharf]

i think i started LB and gonna try something else.

[onyx wharf]

can dot from spreading flames crit?

[azure obsidian]

Don't think DoT crits at all, may be wrong.

[paper beacon]

Is there any explosion builds?

[onyx wharf]

explosive trap

explosive ballista, holy explosion warpath are the onyl two that come to mind for me

[paper beacon]

Like fire xplision?

[onyx wharf]

fire explosive trap bladedancer sounds like what you may be looking for

[icy drift]

Meteor exists too

Idk how good ballista explosion still is

It that was the prime example in the past, screen wide explosions

[fallen parcel]

Ballista explosion cold specially its pretty much still broken if you fancy that

[paper beacon]

Meteor? Sounds
Explosive

Is that a mage build?

[icy drift]

Yep, specifically sorcerer

Sorry for the late reply wasn't watching the channel

[severe valve]

i dont know if this has been answered before, but if an idol touches 2 refracted slots, does that then have twice the effect?

[faint cape]

No

[severe valve]

but then why are they showing us this?

[faint cape]

The glow means it's touching a slot, not sure about the middle one, but I think both of these are just touching one (top slot on each)

[runic grail]

Middle one is touching two

[faint cape]

Oh yeah, middle one does indeed have a second refracted slot on the bottom

just a penalty of putting a 4-tall idol in that spot, basically

[severe valve]

so you are certain it has no additional effect?

[desert tree]

Yes, it was confirmed in ask devs

[severe valve]

okay thanks!

[desert tree]

Its a binary state

Either the idols is refracted or is not

[severe valve]

okay 🙂

[azure obsidian]

I'd guess they had some idea behind the layout of the idol slots. They are, in a sense, pre-generated, right?

Now, looks to me that the generic box for our idols is a 5 x 5 and pre-season 4, we have 5 squares removed.
I didn't quite catch it, but from the picture linked here, I see 7 squares blocked. Are all of these 7 squares blocked? Are there variable numbers in relation to refracted slots?

[primal kestrel]

Exciting with new items and QoL today 🙂

[faint cape]

That is correct

[candid elm]

It varies by which Idol Altar you equip. The second half of this brief article has a few details https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/rune-of-corruption-and-idol-altars-coming-to-last-epoch-march-26/80544

There's an animated example of a bunch of different ones being equipped in that article, but the animation is going so fast it's kind of hard to see the examples. I've slowed the gif down here so you can better see that these examples look like they have 4-7 spots blocked with 1-6 of the Refracted Slots purple bonus spots.

[azure obsidian]

Thank you for that. Yeah, I see some variation in number of squares that are blocked and enhanced that does not follow any numerical pattern, so it may also be an overall layout organization thing, idk... Or maybe some altars are strictly better?

[faint cape]

It looks to me like they are balanced around number of total open slots vs. nice layout vs. number of refracted slots

[candid elm]

The affixes for the Idol Altars edit sorry meant the altar itself Refracted Slots purple bonus spots are also being rolled. So you're going to probably be looking for one that holds the size of idols you want to use as well as how well it's rolled

[faint cape]

A lot of the ones with more refracted slots for example have more blocked slots or make it difficult to put multiple larger sized idols in those refracted slots

[azure obsidian]

Ahh, I understand now. So the layout is fixed, but the refracted slots are random, in a sense?

[faint cape]

No, all fixed layouts

[azure obsidian]

But, uhh.. that seems to contradict SweetGoat here.

[toxic echo]

Layouts including blocked and refracted slots, are locked to the item type

[azure obsidian]

Confusion is me...

[toxic echo]

But you need to find the right layout for your idols

And altars have their own affixes from what we saw as well

[faint cape]

I think he meant the bonus that refracted slots give is based on the altar's rolled affixes

[azure obsidian]

So, when I talk about layout, I mean the background layout, as if you have no refracted slots.

[toxic echo]

Both are fixed

[azure obsidian]

They are conceptually separable, but if they mechanically tied to the same item, then ok.

But I (probably mis-)understand we can have the same background rolled with better setups of the refracted slots?

In a sort of "altar of X" base that varies by rarity tier of "Altar of X"?

[candid elm]

The item icon in your inventory shows you what they look like

[toxic echo]

No. The slots are fixed just like the layout.

[azure obsidian]

Mkay, that's a tangible conclusion. I was more wondering how they were conceived :p (and got distracted by a detail)

[candid elm]

We'll be able to see what values they have closer to release when sites like LE Tools parse the update. There's an example of one in the article.

[azure obsidian]

Right, they have affixes. Guess time will tell if they have any affix that adds a refracted square.

[candid elm]

The prefixes and affixes on this appear to be rolled. The purple line is from the corruption

[candid elm]

From the pictures they've posted, that and the layout appears to be based on the item type. Like the above picture is a Skyward Altar type and has that pictured layout

[faint cape]

It seems unlikely that an affix will add an extra refacted slot, but could be neat for sure

And there's so far no unique altars, I think there's a lot of design space open for those now

[azure obsidian]

Well, this is me reading too deep into it, really. As I said, on a conceptual level, I can sort of break apart an altar's square layout into squares of this or that type. But if there's no real point to that, then, uh... moving on?

[candid elm]

I think we'll need to see what affixes they can roll

[paper beacon]

Question

Do u guys make a new character when u wanna respec within the same class?

[candid elm]

And there's the new Omen Idols as well, that can have affixes normally only on 1x4, 4x1, and 2x2 size idols on the smaller 1x3 and 3x1 size Omen Idols

[paper beacon]

Or just respec it and pay 500k for it

[candid elm]

I personally respec. If you wanted to be able to play both characters, you could roll a second one.

[azure obsidian]

500k isn't that much at higher levels, but the idea of starter builds being unitary and then switching in the endgame to a final form build exists because of respec and is very viable.

[paper beacon]

Ahh ok

I mean for me a newbie its alot 500k 😂

[azure obsidian]

So, question is, really... what level are you?

[paper beacon]

85

[faint cape]

Just depends on my mood. I personally don't mind leveling a new char too much, but sometimes I'd rather just swap it, particularly if I already have most of the gear ready

[paper beacon]

I wanna try necromancer currently a lich

[azure obsidian]

Fair... well, up to you, you could struggle a little longer, gather that gold or just restart on a new char.

[paper beacon]

But we share the same storage yes?

[azure obsidian]

within the same season, yes.

[paper beacon]

Ah okay

So for new season we have to start from 0?

[azure obsidian]

for the cycle specifically, yes

[paper beacon]

What do u mean by cycle?

[azure obsidian]

There is a common variant of the game that is kind of standard, it's always there. There's a cycle that refreshes every season.

[paper beacon]

For a troll uve been helpful 😂 thank u mr troll.

Cycle means items? Or just general content?

[azure obsidian]

The troll part is people trolling themselves thinking I am malicious or ill-intended.

Maybe someone has a screen shot of the screen that lets you pick on creating a character?

[candid elm]

Yes, if you make another character in the same game mode, such as both in Online Season or both in Offline Legacy, and if you don't turn on a Challenge Mode such as Hardcore or one of the Solo Challenges.

[azure obsidian]

I last played in december last year and uh... forgot the names that are actually a part of this process...

[paper beacon]

Ohh i saw it , there are 2 options when entering the game

[paper beacon]

Got it sir

[azure obsidian]

If I recall correctly, left one is the permanent one. The right one is the cycle, start fresh every season.

[candid elm]

What game mode did you make your current character in?

[paper beacon]

I think season 3

I forgot what mode

I dont know the difference i just wing it 😂 but i see people chatting in global

[azure obsidian]

Also, I may have missed if the game renamed the cycle to season. Am I behind on the times?

The difference is just that. Start fresh every season or play with your past stashes and characters. Both sides get the same content as it rolls in.

[candid elm]

Ok, note that Season 4 is starting on March 26. When they do a new Season, your previous Season characters are transferred to Legacy.

New Season has everyone starting over, Merchant's Guild economy reset, and new leaderboards.

You can choose to make new characters in the Season or continue to play existing characters in Legacy.

[azure obsidian]

As a note, season stuff (your characters and stashes) go into the eternal standard, it is not deleted on season end.

[candid elm]

If you decide to play in Legacy, here's how to get access to your Stash #1394658973612904478 message

[azure obsidian]

I think most people go for the refresh route, since a fresh start means not relying on your past gear to reach end game faster.

I would be curious what the statistics on play time per character are :p

[candid elm]

The devs originally called the major updates tied to the optional restarts as "Cycles". They later changed it "Seasons" as that term is more familiar to people. We're coming up on the 4th major update since the 1.0 release, Season 4 on March 26.

[azure obsidian]

Hmm... Still think cycle sounds best for the theme of the game. But hey, let me be behind on the times and hopefully remember that it's actually seasons now.

[candid elm]

I liked it too, but we did have to constantly explain that Cycle was a term like Diablo Season or PoE League. So I get why they changed it. A lot of other games use Season term, so people are familiar with it

[paper beacon]

Ah so u guys starting over?

All of that grind goes away just like that ?

[candid elm]

I enjoy making new characters, trying new things, and starting over fresh. If that doesn't sound fun to you, then you can continue to play existing characters in Legacy game mode. Totally up to you. Currently, Season and Legacy game modes have the same game content - like all the same new things that are being added in the new update.

[azure obsidian]

I have for ever played the seasonal aspect of an online arpg. relegated standard/legacy/whatnot common branch to experimentation on feel of this or that prior to actual season launch.

[candid elm]

Some games, such as PoE, may have some new content that is only available if you play in the new Season game mode. Last Epoch currently doesn't do that.

[drowsy wigeon]

Yeah I 100% agree SweetGoat. LE Should "1000%" do this because It kills the player base for MG. Season for new stuff season rewards, new content and Legacy for old content only. Make no sense why have both with same new content.

[candid elm]

I like that they let people play however they want. Offline or Online, Season or Legacy. Merchant's Guild or Circle of Fortune. I've been playing Online Season CoF, but it's nice that I could play something else if I wanted.

[quiet terrace]

They are expanding the game base. They will, at some point do “seasonal” only content last we heard but that would not be S4

[azure obsidian]

MG is the iffy part, it being a player-driven market that is kind of volatile by its nature. And I say this because the whole rest of the game is decidedly less volatile.

[paper magnet]

"at some point" is a dangerous window of time for live service titles.

[quiet terrace]

I don’t remember their actual stance so I said “at some point” . I believe season 5 or 6

[faint cape]

Yeah, agreed. The people who always play Legacy probably have no interest in playing Season, so I don't think there is much of a real playerbase split.

[quiet terrace]

But “at some point” is sooner rather than later

[junior mesa]

one of the new rogue skill tree options says shadows "imitate multishot" . Does this mean it does not use the multishot skill tree?

[candid elm]

They're like copies of you. By imitate it means like repeat it after you cast it. Shadows imitating Multishot is new. They previously just imitated skills like Shadow Cascade, Shurikens, Umbral Blades, and Acid Flask.

[junior mesa]

so , then it will use the multi shot skill tree?