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arena wave completion
ok thanks! i was going crazy reading everything and wasn't able to find it.
so this is like endless waves of enemies and the highest wave reached is tracked? Basically like D3 greater rifts?
similar enough
Ah thats really nice, thanks
gonna be playing after years, excited to see what the game has become now, the only thing im unsure about is the faction part, which one would be better..
The one that fits your playstyle best
There is no better, there is what fits you better
You'll be able to gear up just fine either way so its just a matter of do you want to trade for gear or find it yourself.
is there like an actual auction house? Or its like poe trade where you need a third party site to do it?
Should i only focus on one element with elementar nova?
i think there is an actual ah
There is something like an AH in the trade faction, yes
The AH is in game
You do have some requirements to trade though
i see
I mean early access game was basically ssf, so i guess i wanna check out how trading is, so will try it out
Good thinking man, both will be nice. I decided to go "SSF" for my personal reasons, but it will be nice to see how trade will develop
i feel like gearing in this game was pretty easy because of how good crafting is (unless they made it harder to get better loot now)
Both factions will have their ways to reach good gear. "SSF" has a good chance to have some really crazy exalted itens though, for example, because of the bonuses you get
Something that will not exist that easily in trade, and if so, will be kinda expensive
so if im playing with a friend, both of us have to be in the same faction so we can trade stuff right?
no you cant trade stuff on the lucker faction
you can only trade stuff in the merchant faction
You can. But you need to have an specific item share with your friend
if playing with a friend you can GIFT together
You can give each other items no matter what, but can't use the items if you have a different tag than what the item has
yea there is also a gift system and a trade to party member system
"Resonance" allows you to trade with friends that you choose. But it seems that you have to use it wisely.
That's only if you aren't playing together when it drops
i saw the resonance item has the player's name on it, how those that work?
You drop resonances when you're in a party with someone that you can use later
excuse me fellas just wondering if there is anything special about that yellow hp that shows up and slowly decays whenever I get hit particularly hard, is there some sort of mechanic there or is it just fancy eye candy?
what if i have 20 friends, how do i give to someone specific
nobody got 20 friends
Have to play with them for a while and get it to drop
true
yellow is a crit
You will drop it while playing in a party with that specific person
can an item with 4 legendary potential leech off 2 exalted items with 2 having 2 affixes? or can it only leech off 1 single exalted item
ah ok makes sense
1 item
The exalted input has to have 4 affixes
The resonance item is not an item you can "farm" 🙂
YOu can only craft a legendary with an exalted that has 4 affixes.
alright ty
can an exalted item have less than 4 affixes?
yes
ah i thought it always had 4
In this case you have to craft something on it to be able to use it for LP
I dropped one with just one t6 affix on it, but it has to have 4 when you want to craft a legy
So you cant remove the 3 uesless affixes to make sure that the one that gets transfered is the one you actually want?
nope
No
nops. in that case the craft system wouldnt be usefull
omg... thats so bad
Correct, its part of the gamble
lol?
not bad = just get an item with all 4 good affixes :p
im not good with times :c can someone tell me how long left in hours for the game to coem back live with 1.0 please ?
Its not bad @unique kernel there is a reason why Legendary items called this way
it makes the grind for items 1000x longer but its fine. its part of it i guess
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23 hourse, 9 minutes
it will go online in just 24 Hoours
Yes, it is part of it and it is really hard to find someone that would like the opposite.
getting a LP4 good rolls item is tough in itselff, but i guess if theres LP4, then you can be sure that all 4 of the affixes on the exalted will be transfered correct?
But beware: You can start downloading the game / patch in 24 hours. No preload avabile
yes
good luck getting LP4 though
I have a lvl 95 Runemaster but i never once did the dungeon temportal to get to see the legendary crafting system
LP4 in a good item*
oh shhit exactly 24h OOOF welp thank u sooo mcuh ❤️
Every unique can have different drop chances based on the LP it has.
Some items have a higher chance to have for example more then 2 LP
Anyone have guide for 1.0 Fire summoner?
There are items that can have 4 LP but they are so rare that you can literally play lotto and win a million dollar
some builds need to have a unqiue and you can make your own guide pretty easily by yourself 😛
Sorry, I mean this, https://prnt.sc/QOlhKTTlGH0N
pretty sure its not a crit
maxroll doesn't have fire summoner build
unless im blind xd
and https://www.lastepochtools.com/ seems to be down
Last Epoch Tools is coming back soon I think. There is one there
okii 😄
Will thorns totem build still be a good build with the nerfs for 1.0 ?
You can also use Youtube. Some content creators have it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngd79c7Kum8&t=184s is these still viable?
Yea because the nerfs didnt target the main idea of the build.
And I would rather prefer a "balance" then a "nerf" ^^
Nerf inflicts that the build is much worse then it should be , but the truth is, that there are many builds that were overpowered or bugged.
Hard to say. the video is almost a year old. many things changed. And like I said, some builds need to have a unquie in order to work.
And when probably most of playing time I'll play alone is any good option to choose merchant faction? Trade on auction house seems interesting all the more of I'd like to have fun not to reach the beat place in leaderboard but I don't know whether it's worth.
If you want to blast the game, you should search for starter builds instead.
are there any cycle starter guides about good rare bases to craft early on in the ladder? i know obviously some stats are class dependand like magic/el damage on mage classes or phys on phys classes, but apart from that there must be some general good stats like resist, health , movespeed on boots etc
Trading is and will always be one of the strongest mechanics in every game, because you have the power to target buy an item.
is there a general advice as to when one should switch from a starter build to a more endgame build?
Imagine you play POE without trading and you have to farm items in order to play a certain build
No, but a general advice is level 70 and having the itens required for the build you are swapping too
Yes, if you start playing a high corruption number ^^
Be aware: With 1.0 the mobs will be much stronger then before, therefor a 200 Corruption Echo will be much harder then before.
Will legacy characters not have access to the factions until the next season or will they get access when 1.0 drops?
They will, 1.0 is core.
All the things coming to the cicle will be in 1.0 legacy too
is blademage is like a cool melee fighter with magic or he uses both melee and range ?
He is a cool melee magic fighter, yes. Not in a really good spot though, but I did not check the patch notes for it
Do anyone have the dark mode of the class and mastery badge wheel picture? Could have sworn I saw that on reddit once
btw who makes regional pricing on steam, gaben or game dev
steam. EHG is aware its not accurate
im from 3rd world country and only switzerland pays more for last epoch wtf
it should be a bit cheaper, not 10-15% higher price than us dollar or euro xd
Will I get afk kicked if I idle an offline character in game?
No
I am sure you will have a chance to get keys based on giveaways on twitch. 🙂
how one transitions from a leveling build to a WIP personal endgame build in regards to exp for skills if you re max level? (shaman totem build to werebear swipe for example)
Will there be "Legendary Potential" filtering in the loot fitler with 1.0?
no
Skills relevel pretty fast when you respec. It wont really be much of a hinderance to swapping.
Run 3 echos and you are good to go.
The exp / level lose on changing a skill is nothing in the endgame. ^^
Never played before so what's considered "actual endgame" in LE? Like how in PoE you are trying to get to t16 maps quickly
How does coop scaling work, does enemy have more hp/defense/dmg? Also do you share XP (when you're not lvl 100 yet)?
Endgame endgame is empowered monoliths
Enemy doesn't get more dmg
just hp
Is there a guide somewhere where the classes are explained in a little detail for "newcomers"? :) So you can make an educated decision on what to play?
Thanks
is this possible to play offline now ?
Only if you were already logged into a character
daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn RIP.
Educated decision in regards to what? Just play whatever looks fun. Every class is viable endgame to some degree.
There is no wrong decision
yes, you can play 100% offline with 1.0
i have a blue wand i want to add that suffix to and it won't let me, only chance to chill on hit and one other suffix
Nops, you can change the client in steam to offline with 1.0
Playing "whatever looks fun" is not what I would call an "educated decision", it's actually quite the opposite. :)
I am looking to find more information on the different classes and masteries than the in-game description, but without having to read a full-blown guide. Something in between.
That's not what he asked. He asked if he could play offline. Now. We don't have 1.0 yet.
Oh true, I am sorry.
maxroll, icy veins for guides
The offline-mod is the reason why there is no preload for the game too. 🙂
They can't exist on wands.
help with rounding out a runemaster build
newbie question, do the leaderboards have a reward system or are they just bragging rights? I can't find anything online about them
valve only gives suggestions for prices, the actual regional pricing ultimately depends on the devs whether they want to opt-in for valve's suggested prices or decide themselves https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing#5
bragging rights
Just got the game 30mins ago. Is the online any different from offline lvling wise? - Do I have to lvl side-by-side online, or is it just being able to see other players
leaderboards are new so only bragging rights
being able to see and trade with people
you dont get random people in campaign zones outside of hubs online, only in towns
You can play online totally solo
It's not an mmo
Is there any reason to play offline then?
respec your skills, do one echo, they are level 20
you play offline when you want to play offline, all there is to it
Why can't I connect now?
you can pause the game, and with 2 kids thats enough for me to consider offline actually
Hi everyone, I have a question, I have never played Last Epoch before and not even heard of it, but today i saw it for first time and it looked good and my question is, is this game worth to buy after it comes from early acces, I am really big fan of Diablo 2 and 3 and I enjoy very much these types of games, so I am looking for your honest opinions ty.
Why can't I connect now?
Server down, 24 hours
why don't you watch a couple of youtube reviews? Kinda hard to fit anything into a discord chat
Early access ends in less than 24 hours now, may as well get it now to get the pre-order pet. I think you'll enjoy it since you like D2/3
Pretty big d2 fan here, only had LE for a couple days but I say it's a damn good game so far. Can't wait to see the full release
Hi Everyone, is there a server list somewhere? i am running the game behind a firewall and need to open the network port to allow traffic.
Oh, so annoying. I was going to log in
D2 is my favorite game of all time and I’d say LE feels more like D2 than D3/4 does
not that we know of, try contacting the support
hey is there any announcement about Multiplayer fixes? in terms of lags etc. for 1.0?
Did you have a look at the patch notes..?
Too many pages 😄
oh there is from yesterday i didnt see that thx!
yes, it's called the 1.0 patch notes
Does anyone know if the developers have said they would consider allowing respecs of masteries?
They will not consider them, no
Thanks! I only ask cuz like every video I've seen on the game hints that this could possibly be coming in the future
Yeah I dunno why, they've been pretty clear that they don't want that
feels like wishful thinking because so many players want it
Specially new players that see the game as having five classes instead of fifteen
sad, was about to buy the game but price looked weirdly high. idk why they want Poland ppl to pay atleast 10% more than ppl from way richer countries
Which builds are considered the lowest APM endgame ? I assume warpath builds for WK/Paladins and what else ? Warlock also seem to be less demanding with all the autocasts isn't it ?
yeah, it doesnt make much sense but its a common theme with polish prices, average/minimum salary + buying power is somehow ignored when it comes to steam prices of games, its super stupid and you cant do anything about it; if it makes you feel any better EHG cut you 1% deal compared to Valve's suggested price https://steamdb.info/sub/993955/
I have a little problem. I finish last boss in Campain and game gonna crash. One big lag. I loggout and now in start screan of the game i press login and cannot go in. liggle mark of loading gonna around infinity. someone have same problem?
the servers are down.
ooooouu... ok xd mb
is stash shared across characters?
If they're in the same game mode.
Hi, im new and confused. What exactly does "+ spell damage for curses" do for Chthonic Fissure? It just scales the base hit of Tormening Spirit at 25% effectivenes and Base fire damage? Or does it scale Torment itself too? When i hover over Torment itself it doesnt show damage effectivenes so im not sure if "+ spell damage for curses" work or not. If it does, whats the damage effectiveness?
also how long is a cycle/season? i couldnt find that info
It scales torment itself and only torment. (And other curses you might have)
If there's no listed damage effectiveness, it's 100%
so is the "play offline" button still working for you guys?
4 months+-.
Servers are down
So it begins
it's not full offline
How does Lightless Arbor work in a party with friends? Can we take turns with that gold sink and friends can benefit from the loot or is that place designed to go alone?
i was under the impression this whole time that offline mode was full offline, even was told something like that a day ago :D
True offline comes with 1.0
We get full offline mode after 1.0
Tomorrow 23.5 hours from now
Thank you, Chthonic Fissure has a curse tag so i figured it scales the skill too. I guess it has the curse tag, cause it applies a curse.
Correct, exactly.
why are people able to stream offline now? i cannot play offline, endless loading
One player can spend gold per run. Only they get what they paid for, everyone else does get some generic loot from the chests, though.
They were logged into an offline character before the servers went down.
lyfehax
Cool thanks.
so you have to have a offline created before the server went down?
That's what I said, yes.
You had to be IN-GAME before the server went down
ah ok ty for clarifying
is it still free to dl before it launches or do you have to pay for it?
It's never been free to dl..?
is the release date time timezoned?
i didnt pay to dl mine
What build would u recommend for a beginner for 1.0? I played some Summon Spriggan Druid during 0.9.2 but decided to wait for launch.
a build with a playstyle you like
ugghh cant wait for 01:00 CT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well hard tellin not knowin
Everything I've played in Last Epoch has been "beginnering friendly" so far. Just build something you enjoy and it will change over time.
when does the update drop?
23.5 hours
I usually really enjoy following a good guide I don't really like experimenting myself when others have already done that
Hi, where can I leave a suggestion?
so 12am tomorrow?
Is LE tools down?
maxroll has a lot of build guides, with leveling guides for each class
any tips to buypass login screen and play offline?
I'm sure it was asked before but I can't exactly find the info right now
do we keep our early access characters at launch?
12pm tomorrow
You can't
@storm blaze @sharp current thanks ❤️
Are these actually good for LE I remember them being pretty bad for D4
thank you c:
cant say i've really tried them tbh. last time i used maxroll was for Lost Ark, but that was like 1.5 years ago
I think I would like to try paladin. I really liked Paladin in D2
You shouldn't be able to do that.
LE is pretty friendly for going in blind without a build guide.
Maybe someone that only tried in the free trial a year ago?
well i didn't and ive had it for a long time now ;D
Oh piracy gotcha
You're either mistaken or you pirated it.
Either piracy or you kickstarted.
if its not on your steam then you pirated it
There's no shame, I pirated the game at 0.8 then bought it after MP dropped. 👍
questionable place to admit that lmao
le is on my steam
How much did you play?
Then you bought it.
It's very simple...
Have you been playing all this time? Or only the week you downloaded
is crafting permanent?
Yes?
Explain further?
in the forge for armor, items, etc. Can I break down an item to get back shards, etc?
Yes. Rune of Removal will remove 1 of the 4 affixes at random, for a quantity equal to the tier that it removes. Rune of Shattering will remove any number of them for a quantity of 1.
thanks!
just have in mind that rune of removal uses forging potential so if you have 0, you cant use it
Good point. Basically, use Rune of Removal if an item drops that has high tier of affixes for shards you really like (valuable class stuff), and you can remove all 4 affixes if you'd like as long as you have forging potential to do it.
i got a guestpass from someone but i can't remember who gave it to me, ive had it since nov 22 never paid for it
... Guest passes don't exist for LE.
it says so in my dl history on steam
See? Free trial
just download it on release. if you cant get in you dont own it. simple as
Im guessing LP will use a seasonal system on release? If so, do we get exclusive season 1 rewards that u cant get any other season?
Lp?
no seasonal rewards currently
No
Kk ty
Well, if that joozek posted is legit, then no you don't have an actual copy of the game, it's a demo.
hey guys anyone knows if its better to do a clean instalation or just update the game?
Update should be just fine.
i didn't get it from there, but i think i got from either my bf or my littlebrother, but i guess i'll find out tomorrow when it launches 😉
U recommend downloading current version to get feel for classes? Or best to hodl
Servers are down, so....
you cant play right now
Oh ok
The login servers are down. So come back in about 23 hours to play : )
for making legendaries, i've read:
"By 'same type' we mean it fits in the same gear slot."
To verify, does this mean I can make a legendary by combining a 1h sword and 1h axe or say a mage's relic with a primalist's relic?
Can you play offline? 😄
Only if you were already logged into an offline character.
1h sword with 1hsword, 2h axe with 2haxe.
not until after the patch when true offline is added.
u need to login to play offline rn
Hi guys, I know the server are down now, is there anyone play in offline mode? I mean I tried playing offline mode but I cant
no but we don't have anybody better (yet) so yor options aren't exactly stellar
Offline needs a login check currently, and since you can't login....
Thank you guys! 🙂
Well I'm glad we're not playing a drinking game. I'd have alcohol poisoning already.
man... i woke up wanting to play...
ok so same item type itself rather than slot. gotcha, thanks!
Bought the game a couple of hours ago, didn't realise it was going to go offline straight away... well... tomorrow is another day 😄
I wish I can say "Reading issue" without getting CMed....
23 hours!
But you just did, mods!
I've already died 4x and on my 5th respawn on this drinking game.
Is a llama stronger than a deer?
Ask the moose
I don't know, maybe devs do
hey guys, ill play le for the first time tomorrow and people probably asked this question already. are there better sites for builds then maxroll? if not ill probably just pick one from maxroll 🙂
lastepochtools.com, but its down right now
okay tyvm 🙂
Maxroll is fine, lots of content creators will have their own starter builds posted too.
Search Youtube for starter builds. They mostly link to lastepochtools
what the best build to play in last epoch ... ? for the new season
There are lots of good builds.
Maxroll is where a lot of people are putting htier builds. But I honestly encourage you to just play and you may be surprised that you don't need a build guide. I feel the ARPG community has been beat over the head with build guides.
The one you find the most interesting!
Can 4 players in CoF play in party, farm maps and trade items they dont need via Player Trade?
hey will we be able to predl the patch before tomorrow 6 pm ?
Player gifting, yes.
new on the game ...
i never used maxroll thats why i asked. im coming from poe where i always picked league starter builds from youtube and i min maxed them in endgame. i just wanted to make sure im not picking completly troll builds 😄
No
Anyone getting cloudflare error when trying to visit last epoch tools?
Web server is down Error code 521
LETools is down
yes. it is also down due to traffic
So go look at the classes and pick one that sounds interesting to you. You may find "the best build" (if one exists) to be completely boring.
Good stuff
It's ok to make your own build the first time you play as well. It's very easy to respec in this game. You can change everything except your initial class and mastery.
Fire necromancer is good, but it's kind of boring
that sounds perfect. any recommandation for a class which is safe to play and will make endgame content "easier" for me?
so its not like the other games ?? like there is a meta build or something like that
Path of Exile has left a lot of people battered and bruised making us feel like we need a build guide to play these games. Last Epoch it's not necessary.
Where metas can exist, people will find a meta.
Meta builds require specific gear that you don't have yet
Is there a reason my lightning blast isnt chaining to other enemies? I have the node that lets it chain to me and on the same enemy so does it priotize chaining on the same enemy over jumping to others?
which necro build should be strong in 1.0, build or builds? sacrifice zombies? wraith? other?
but u have to choose the right class to make the build that u need
You'll be able to complete the campaign with any of them. Especially if you have any ARPG experience. There's just a couple bosses like Lagon and Majasa that tend to be difficult
Make the build that you want. What do you mean build that you need?
Mostly the same ones as now, plus some new ones enabled by new uniques and warlock skills
is last epoch currently unavailable?
Meh. Leveling a new character is really fast.
24 hour maintenance just started. Big patch tomorrow
see #news
true, i was amazed at how fast you could choose your mastery
Convergence?
Yea Mastery selection is like level ~15
Is it worth rolling a support Paladin? Will they sought after for grouping up?
Lol reading op
Don't build for support unless you have someone to support
Paladin is really good solo, though
I'm considering this as well. I play with 2-3 other friends and I'd be interested to try a strong support build just for when we play together.
is there a download that we can preload for tomorrow? my last update was 2/17
I was just told that by choosing circle of fortune, over opting in to the trade economy, in time, the players who choose the solo style will actually be finding items that people who opt in to the trade guild will never see? Is this true in any form?
No
No
I just bought the game today and start leveling a sentinel, will i lost my progress when 1.0 come out? Or maybe there is a reason to level anew character?
Sounds completely false to me.
cool thanks, just wanted to make sure i wasnt missing it
I don't want to play this drinking game anymore.
maxroll or icy veins be best for builds on launch?
guys, i just downloaded the game through steam and cant play, only tomorrow to play the game?
lol
yes, servers is down for 24 hrs
😭
Help...!
ty guys
How long before it happens again
less than 5min im sure
Hello
No, there's no character wipes. But unless you're already playing the character in offline mode, you're not going to be able to login for about 23 hours
What is Least played class/masteries?
ty for the answers
Probably sorceror and forge guard.
I feel like Paladins provide support by default with most of their abilities, I guess my biggest concern is whether the innate support value outweighs the raw dps of other classes and builds, you know?
literally the two I've played so far and would want to play again XD
thank you!
Hello everyone, I´m a Diablo IV player, there is a class/build like Druid Stormclaw ? I like it and I want to play something like that.
Yea, that's my consideration as well and what I want to test. Like, would I be a detriment to the party if I focused more on support than going in on tons of damage with passive healing/buffs. I think the Healing Hands tree is going to be a ton of fun to build with!
i got a question regarding the cycle system if my assumptions are correct
when a new cycle starts, i can choose to add my recent characters to some sort of legacy what ever that exaclty is, or i can just keep playing them, but then i cannot compete in the arena ladder with them, or how does it work?
kr
There's a lot of Druid builds in Last Epoch. What is the Stormclaw one in D4 like?
So I think what's happening here is that people are talking about the bonuses to exalted affixes that CoF gets, because depending on how they work exactly it's possible that they make multi-exalted items vastly more common, like 100+ fold if you take the most generous interpretation. That means it's actually plausible to find good double exalted items whereas it isn't really to find them yourself as MG
Yes. There's no wipes. The Cycle characters are moved to the regular legacy game mode when the Cycle ends
but the flipside is that most double exalts you find are still bad for you, and MG has the entire server pooling their finds
Tempest strike maybe
Any characters that are not part of hte current cycle are considered "Legacy". Whether that's a newly created non-cycle character or a previous cycle character that is no longer running.
so it seems like it might even out (and yeah regardless has nothing to do with items being literally impossible for MG)
You might as well do both, do damage WHILE supporting.
Healing doesn't matter if both you and the enemy get one-shotted anyway
oh ok, and besides the arena ladder there is no difference or is there more?
Currently there is no difference other than a fresh start economy if you're Merchant's Guild.
Yeah I'm really curious to see how the new Healing Hands tree plugs in to Paladin builds. Like if it gets to a point where Paladins create overall sustain for the party on top of the buffs it gives with his other abilities, I feel like that'll the tipping point
what exaclty is that?
Last Epoch will have 2 Factions: Merchant's Guild (trade) and Circle of Fortune (player found).
This post will explain everything you'd like to know.
and i can only join them if i have a current cycle character?
well thats fine then
There's no content difference this Cycle. If you want to start fresh with everyone, Cycle.
For sure, I wouldn't want their to be a full support build that does little to nothing on its own.
my idea was that i have my one favourite class which i m gonna farm the living hell out of it and make it my legacy character, and each cycle i would try out a different class
@surreal verge How do you feel about poison after the 1.0 patch notes?
Poison unchanged, still dogwater. 🇫
Dang
Dogwater would probably do better actually.
Now now, it has poison overlord now, it's doing SOMETHING.
Why’s poison bad?
🤣
Low base?
You can't access offline Mode either while maintenance, correct?
One of the lowest base damage ailments, not a single hit skill tied to it, all it has is res shred as it's 'more' which there's so much it might as well be an 'increased' mod
Ah ok
You can definitely do that. They setup the game modes and trade factions so that you can pick what you want to do. If you prefer farming items yourself, circle of fortune. If you like to trade items, merchant's guild. You can also switch which one you're aligned with.
Yes, this is probably exactly what I am asking about. And it sounds like these are some of the best items in the game, for end game. Yet the ladder is shared, and people who have exponentially more access to god tier stuff will surely out-gear those who don't, and likely outperform them?
correct
Is arena viable endgame content over monos?
hello guys, im newbee here i cant log in game, maintenance mode or something?
This sounds entirely speculative at the moment.
After this 1.0 update, they're adding a true offline mode. But currently, yes.
see #news
no
Yes. About 22.5 hours to go
necromancer
btw will the 1.0 feature new skins?
Alright, thanks for the info guys 🙂
So what’s the point?
sorry my bad 😅
you can vendor the keys for gold (also there are some exclusive uniques)
Hey, can't play offline while servers are down ? well I tried =D
Do they sell for much?
take a drink yall
Not currently. After the 1.0 update a true offline option is being added.
No worries
offline for beta isn't a real offline, only 1.0 will bring true offline mode, the only way was to connect to game before the maintenance and keep the game active.
I actually can't stand up anymore.
6k
i just joined and im getting a little toasty, this is gonna be a long day lol
You think this is bad, go sit and read #💬┃general for even 5 minutes.
also theres an arena leaderboard so you can use it to test your build and show off
Can I farm arena keys straight up?
theyre a common monolith echo (map) reward
Is there a plugin or downloadable that can help with summing up your recent dps, seen some creators use it
You can farm keys in Mono
some falconer degeneracy no doubt, new class = more op in this game
and rogue = baseline op
Actually, I think it makes a lot of sense and is how things are.
not really, but mono nodes can reward arena keys (unlike dungeon keys for instance)
Not that I'm aware of, probably best to ask those creators what they're using.
But the factions aren't in the game yet. How can you say how things are?
Haven't seen any of those creators, got an example?
Lostepochtools has a DPS calculator, but only for a handful of skills.
Okay, so just to repeat it back to you, to be sure I've got it: On paper, it sounds like CoF merely gives you twice the likelihood of t7 affixes. But in practice, we're trying to get multiple T7 affixes on the same item - at which point, the capacity to achieve this via CoF represents an exponentially greater likelihood, as opposed to 'twice' the likelihood. Is that it?
I'm not really interested in philosophically examining what is and what will be, but rather, what has actually been shared, and what we are given to believe, at present, will be.
We won't know what will happen or how it will be until its live. That's all I'm saying. Until then, it's entirely speculative.
Yeah, well, it sounds like a horribly designed outcome at present, and it's completely fair to note that, without having to invoke "but anything can change in the future"
We just don't know. If more people think MG will be good, then it will be good because the more people buy and sell, the better it will be.
If more people decide they just want to see more and better drops from CoF, then MG will be terrible.
What's horribly designed about it?
@ivory owl for the love of everything, please fix this outcome

🍿 wow
just for the record it's against the rules to ping ehg staff
The part where some players have exponentially more access to god tier items than others do, rather than 2x the access, but trade is supposed to compensate (but won't, because everyone in trade is also exponentially less likely to find that stuff, than the CoF-ers)
People really do be like that
We have speculation from closed testers though, the maxroll guys all said basically "COF needed major buffs to be remotely competitive even when MG had about 60-200 players on it"
I see, thanks for the heads up
As I said, this is just speculation.
It's common sense... for all non-entitled people.
Not neccessary
Lot of crotchety energy that I'm not interested in, just trying to discuss a topic here without people moralizing the chat itself, good grief
Massive reddit energy atm, bring me your downvotes, for whatever it is that you get out of such petty behavior, lol
All I'm saying is you're decreeing it a "terrible design" when we haven't seen what it's going to look like.
You aren't trying to discuss anything, you are just whining
Guys if I have a character now on levell 95, do i move it to the new league tomorrow or do i play it out of the season
I won't be talking about anything other than the topic itself rom here forward 🙂
k!
You can't move it to the new league. You can leave it on legacy or start over in the cycle.
i kinda skimmed through the discussion, it seems like the concern is that cof players will have way higher chances of double exalted gear as an indirect consequence of their bonuses right?
I think its important to consider that trading is also an extremely powerful tool that converts pretty much every wrong affix into something meaningful to progress. You get something you can't use, you sell it, and you buy whathever you want. This means that trading provides a way more reliable way of making progress in theory, given that your end goals, by sheer numbers of players dropping gear, will always exist and be available for trade
That is the way it should work. But in my understanding of the current implementation, that is not at all how it will work.
okay thanks, didnt now that. Does this character get affected by the new nerfes ?
Even if true and CoF has an exalted item advantage. You don't need double T7 items to do all content in the game.
Game will have the same changes for everyone
Can I sell all drops while leveling or do I need to keep anything for endgame?
You can't trade until the last act.
I'm sure there will be tons of discussion around this when it goes live and we see how it actually works in the game and if it ends up being broken to be entirely in favor of CoF or MG then EHG will make adjustments to correct course.
do leagues start tomorrow? (maybe seasons is what i mean actually)
The devs will make adjustments if they're necessary
Selling to vendors is almost entirely pointless in Last Epoch. Either don't pick it up, or shatter the item for shards.
okay so i can basiclly throw my mage frost wall and flame ward build in the trash, because of that 12 second coldown xD
Just because some people don't care about fairness or competition for themselves personally, does not mean that it's a wise idea to have a shared leaderboard that consists of both players who have exponentially more access to god tier items, and those who don't. This is a straight forward point that a person must be intending to not appreciate, and must not personally care about, in order to schlup off and disregard - which is the only attitude I'm finding in this chat right now. But this chat is not representative of everyone, in particular, all the people who will choose trade, only to find out that there's nothing they can really do to resolve the exponential disparity between their access to god tier items, and the other half of players access to god tier items.
items can only be traded once? wheree have people seen this info?
CoF - you have a higher chance to find T7, but low chance of finding the affixes you want
MG - you have a lower chance to find it yourself, but you are also sharing drops with ~200k other players. So if they find t7 they don't need, you can search for exactly what you want and buy it.
most importantly - YOU get to pick your faction. So if you think one is objectively better than the other for your playstyle and goals, then YOU can pick that one.
This isn't a matter of opinion, it's mathematical and observable. Exponential disparity is a description of exactly that. Not a magically equal, but not yet understood, for unknown reasons, equality.
can i play offline rn?
no
take a drink
(for what is worth i completely agree that leaderboards should be separate, these two game modes are impossible to balance and accurately define as equal. And this should be common sense too)
if u had connected before patch if not then no
Yay trade is so strong. CoF needs those perks to even be considered
thanks bro !!
I agree CoF and MG should be separate leaderboards
obviously they should be seperate
wont be possible because you can change mid ways
yep
Double t7 affix item with an affix combination that's useless to your build is just a dead item by the way
na matter which side we think that will have a better experience and performance through leaderboards, it will always be one of the extremes. which simply shows that it should be separate either way :p
this
i'm not convinced your math is actually correct, at least based on how you're describing it
What does the word exponential mean to you?
So by that logic this COF bonus does indeed have a chance to produce.. more trash. While on MG most drops you don't need have at least some sale value, other than items that are just bad by all metrics
It would be based on the gear the player is wearing. So it wouldn't matter if you can switch back and forth. One leaderboard for people with MG gear and one for CoF gear
yo boys I need some help. Coming to play last epoch from POE. In POE I played tornado shot and scaled it to 5 mirrors. What kind of build in last epoch scales as well as tornado shot and play somewhat similar?
It's in the news post about trade, do you want a dev comment instead?
either works thx, read the post didnt see it but will read again XD
I think the people in this chat who don't see it yet, should give pause over the fact that a plurality of others in the chat do see it. Think about it again.
Everybody will be in a bad spot compared to a 4 man team that just funnels all their resources into one member regardless of what faction they play on, this will be the competitive meta as long as the developers don't functionally remove multiplayer.
Hey kinda new here are we able to log in or are servers down? 😦
I dont like the idea of splitting the community this way
i mean show me your math if you want to convince me. i'm open to changing my mind but you just repeatedly using the word exponential doesn't do that
That's literally all ARPGs and completely circumnavigates the topic
Read the announcement. 24 hour downtime prior to release.
I don't underestimate trade, but I do think the bind on trade kind of defeats the purpose and goes against what makes trade fun.
Lumi, you're kind of just yelling at the sky at the moment. 1.0 isn't live yet and we don't know what it will look like in production. Why don't you go into #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs with your questions or air your concerns.
The topic is based on your erroneous assumption that isn't backed by anything other than "facts" pulled outta your ass, and we can't refute it with anything other than "facts" pulled straight outta our asses, so this discussion is pointless and I'm not going to engage in it further with the 30 second cooldown
Why do some other people assuming trade will beat CoF?
I'm sure that's why it resonates with others
I personally dislike flipping any items. So I see it as positive items get marked. It keeps the market from oversaturating
im asking if i buy a item use it get bored of the build sell it again
Anyone else having trouble connecting to offline mode?
because it will. It's just the mathematical answer.
No you can't.
That lirerally tells you that. You can't sell tagged items.
You can only sell an item that is untagged.
just because a particular QQ "resonates with others" doesn't make it accurate or valid.
i haven't actually seen anyone else agree with you... but again i'm giving you a chance to change my mind. you say it's mathematically proven that one is better than the other. can i see the math?
sadge ty for the answer @surreal verge @solar leaf
mg or cof, one will be observably better than the other for climbing leaderboards and players will find which one that is. this is the way of things
Trade is most likely more powerful. He is most likely right in that regard.
no they're saying cof is more powerful
lol - people just making assertions. Factions aren't even released, we have no clue what will be true.
who? the devs?
lumi is
Devs said they want to balance MG and CoF, not have one be obviously stronger.
which they should of course
Their target is a 7:3 ratio, fyi. so unless one whole faction is abandoned...
Whats a good source for premade loot filters?
Because they are trusting that things will be well designed to work as we would imagine they should, where trade can compensate for the straight forward trade off.
But it is not as straight forward as first glance would assume. One more time, for those who haven't seen it yet. This is the issue:
A player in CoF gets 2x the T7 affix occurrence likelihood. If all items maxed at a single T7 affix, then this benefit would be straight forward. However - that is not the case. You can accrue multiple T7 affixes on a single item. The capacity to get an item with multiple ideal T7 affixes, is exponentially more for the player who sees them merely twice as often, then, as opposed to for the players who do not.
This either does, or does not, make sense to you. And if you cannot respond to it in manner that is in context and bust instead consists exclusively of "ur wrong" - that is absolute balogna.
flipping items wasn't what I was trying to get at. AH pretty much eliminates all low effort flipping. The only flipping you can do is buying -> crafting -> reselling. You still need resources for all steps so there is no "hideout warrior". So even without the limit, there is no flipping. Saturation of a market isn't an issue. High frequency trades are the issue. They solved high frequency trades with needing a resource to trade.
where are the voice chats? why are they gone D:
but devs have said they understand that once the economy is rolling, being able to search/buy perfect gear will of course be stronger than CoF... because it's obvious
locked for moderation purposes for a while
ok lumi has repeatedly ignored my requests for the math so i am sadly forced to come to the conclusion that they simply are pulling numbers out of thin air
had me until that last paragraph 😂
@minor vigil oh ty, i was worried they wont haveit anymore
0.0000001% x2 is still 0.0000002%....
facepalm moment, good luck with trade system fam
AH does not come close to eliminating flipping lmao
even that is not possible, cause the item is bound to you once purchased
anyone know of a loot filter that'll be good for trading? most all ive seen "hide all items not for your class"
I still think that saturation is an issue. A lot of uniques and other items would be much less valuable without the tag.
and pinging Judd, demanding he drops everything he's doing and take notice of their concerns immediately.
Yes. this is a continued conversation working under the assumption that was removed.
is offline mode working?
i think the CoF / Trade is pretty well balanced, as a solo player or just playing with a few friends you can't compare versus a worlwide player base farming for loot (yes bazar is worldwide), yes you would get less loot, but the fact that you can purchase anything you need and sell the one you get makes it a powerful advantage, also you have to consider that trading people will have more gold, that mean more gold sink possible in the form of boosting dungeons as one exemple (and thus getting even more loots). I think both of them have pro's and cons, and it will probably be rebalanced after a while if needed, the game is new, they don't have enough datas to make it perfect yet.
So not interested in engaging with them anymore because they want to air their grievances and not actually have a discussion if anyone asks a qualifying question or for data.
and again, if you feel CoF is stronger, play CoF. You aren't the fairness police. Play how you want to play. Let others do the same. Or... do what EHG did and design a better game/system!
my bad then
No.
While the concerns are valid - the team have said they will be keeping a close eye on Factions and the balance and can make adjustments based on player feedback! If there are any concerns you would like a clear-as-possible answer on, then asking Mike in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs is your best bet.
If after 1.0 has launched you have feedback on how the balance has played out, then making a post in #1123697853882187847 , on the Feedback Forum, or through the in game reporting tool is the best place to post them so we can get those in front of the Team!
ok thanks @surreal verge
It's sad how difficult it is to simply discuss game design without people becoming so weirdly moralizing and interpersonal. What a bad invitation, to waste our time, bickering like kids on the internet. My sincere thanks to those many who did engage sincerely instead of showing us all they derive a sense of self esteem from condecsending every random internet person they disagree with 🙂
projection
Facts are too much for some
This is totally off topic to the current conversation but Eterras blessing was very inconsistent when spamming it during the beta. Anyone know if it was fixed? Or used it recently and it feels good?
Chat can be civil or I can time-out - consider this topic now over
super predictable that someone that acts like you would use the clown emoji... super transparent.
I'm serious, how would 0.00001% x2 make a HUGE difference?
You still gotta win lotteries, just less of them all in a row.
question: is there a way to make an unarmed character, like a monk?
Base item and even 1 LP uniques are going to be much less valuable regardless because of their drop rates. The game was already balanced for SSF imo. It did not take much to self gear and get your uniques. There would have to be major nerfs for saturation to not be a thing.
You guys looking at the Grim Dawn expansion to pass the time?
Falcon Punch! There's a new unique item for Falconers apparently.
yes and it seems to be pretty powerful on paper
Hi there! im newbee in LE, but.. Does any guild stash for friends in LE? or only resonators we should use?
ah ok, i just got the game so im 100% out of the loop, thanks
im very curious to see what value baseline uniques will have for instance, given that there isn't any form of reference from previous versions or regions at all
I think trading will be very interesting in the first week
Thank you very much
So which class will be your first to build in 1.0? I will toss a coin to decide for rogue or mage 😛
Do each character have their own monolith progression? Or can I have an alt for bosses and a main that speed clears?
What even is a lot of gold to ask for, for decent items
Monolith is separate for each character
If thats the case then fair. I dont have to much time in the game yet. But in general I would assume most/new players do in fact struggle especially early game. Which could lead to saturation even if drop rates are balanced around ssf
either mage or paladin
Here's the short explanation of the difference between MG and CoF:
MG - You will be grinding for money. You will see a lot less valuable items, but you can sell them and buy specifically what you need. WIth enough money you can buy perfect items for your build, but you'll have to have a LOT of money (and grinding) to achieve that.
CoF - You will be grinding for items. You will see way more valuable items, but if your build requires very specific affixes you will have to grind longer.
In my opinion, the way I plan to choose my factions for each char is like this:
MG - You have a very specific build with very specific affixes you need to push high tiers.
CoF - I have a flexible build that can take advantage of a handful of different affixes, or I don't quite know what my path is yet.
Druid most likely
I understand the math, but there are too many unknowns to draw any conclusions.
We don't know...
- The current rate of an item dropping with an exalted affix and/or the chance of multiple T7 affixes.
- The severity of the drop rate nerf coming with 1.0 to balance against the item factions.
- The amount of players choosing MG vs CoF and actively participating in trade.
- The meta/build diversity of 1.0. If a small number of builds pull far ahead, more people will gravitate toward them and make some items/affixes skyrocket in price. It will also mean less-popular affixes won't be sold as much since people would rather be listing the big ticket items. An economy like that would favor MG if you're a meta build or CoF if you're going for a less popular build.
Can druids turn into a cat
"Center timeline node has been made visually more prominent to aid people finding it more easily when having a timeline with many echoes unveiled"
The distance between the echos and the center matter? If not, why this small change?
If you have a node that converts a skill to another damage type, AND a unique that converts 50% how does it work?
Example being fire acid bomb from rogue, and the new relic that converts half to cold damage.
Are enemy levels static?
It does matter. The distance of the path from the center gives increased stability I believe. If not stability there is SOME benefit
enemies scale with area level, they have no independent level
No harm in making things more visible, there doesn't need to be a specific reason.
To me that's static enough.
Would it be a supported suggestion to add a small flashing indicator when you have an item just sitting in your forge?
I always seem to forget i have stuff sitting in there.
is there ray tracing and path tracing for LE ?
how long is 1-100 in hours?
Yes. No scaling with character level
depends on how you play
if you see a wengari axe thrower in a level 5 zone they're level 5, if you see them in a level 90 zone they're level 90, 5 != 90, to me that's not static, but i see where you're coming from.
usually keyboard and mouse?
I'm thankful for that. Enemy autoscaling tends to feel bad.
depends on the build you play
To your level, I mean.
wraiths?
depends on your luck and skill level
yes
indeed
How quickly can speedrunners and racers get to 100 from a fresh start?
come on, help a brother out, pls
How do parties work? Is there downscaling?
sure, how can I help 🙂
I intend to proceed as planned, before I noticed this. I'll offer my faith to the team in getting it right in time, and hopefully in enough time ^^ If I get to my end game stretch and am trying to compete with others in large part via acquiring the same tier of items, but find that this issue persists, I'll simply have more incentive to quit the game. It'll be fun until then, and yes, we'll just have to see what the future brings. It's concerning that so few players recognize the issue at base, to begin with - let alone when it is pointed out. I think that's cause for expressing the concern, for awareness. People cannot advocate for or against things they are literally not perceiving.
scroll up, i have a question about 1-100 in hours, wraiths
how far up?
1 line
Because the features aren’t live yet. Until then, go to #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs maybe? I dunno what else to say
Listen, buddy, I love you. And that's that.
how fast is power levelling from 1 to 100 ? Anyone tried before ?
99
If you have to ask how fast, it probably won't be very fast.
Lots of people wanting to know how fast, but nobody bothers to ask who fast.
seems accurate
I understand where your coming from, rocdog, but no one has been able to provide even a ballpark or a PB from a racer or something. They have zero context or frame of reference
Like, I'm pretty new myself. Does it take tens of hours? Hundreds? Thousands?
Google last epoch speed running
70 if not plebinio. looks like not many here have 1x lvl 100 :kek:
no
once you hit monos you'll start seeing many "low level" mobs of the mono level. Which again won't be an issue once you hit empowered as everything will just be the same level from then on
Yeah but that's not the point of my asking
20-40 hours of normal play, not speedrunning, not intentionally slowing
Oh i see, i'll look into it then ty
oh even slower than i found. ty
I doubt I'll reach 100 in 40 hours
it slows down significantly past 95, those last 5 levels take about as much as 1-90
Which combo of CoF passives are you specifically saying is going to cause an issue?
There's also not much need to level to 100. Most builds are online once you've got level 20 skills, which you get mid 70s, and whatever gear you need. Going from say 95 to 100 is just 5 extra passive points and a minor stat increase.
Sure, no harm, but that meant to me that the center had any use, for us to need to find it more easily, hence my question
That's like reaching t16 maps in 2 days. Lots of people do it, I take over a week.
Apparently there were people who did have trouble finding the center and had a reason to do so. Everyone plays the game differently. 🤷♂️
I swear it was not a complaint. I'm learning the game and wanted to see why they need to find it more easily
not as slow as D2 levelling ?
You can always #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs maybe there was a specific reason they did it. Maybe they just wanted to make it more visible just because.
bro last time I played d2 was in 2001, do you think I still remember how fast or slow it was?
@sharp current you're wildly misunderstanding may, lol
can we play offline or not during the shut down
No I get where he's coming from, he wants to know if there was a reason for it but there is no reason in the patch notes so it would just be speculation as to why they changed it without asking the devs themselves.
@sharp current May's real question was, "Is it important to know where the middle of your echoes is?"
And there IS a reason. Echoes farther away from the center grant more stability, or some other benefit. I'm pretty sure it's stability.
So being able to judge distance from the center has a tangible benefit.
To someone it was apparently
can we play offline or not during the shut down
No
If a skill deals multiple damage types and scales with fire and necrotic for example, does it make both dmg types increase both elements damage types or fire affects fire?
Hi is there a countdown for the Launch?
There's at least one
21 hours and 47 minutes
We should go to sleep around 2 or 3 am to be wel rested for launch!
guys what time will game be up? (US-East)
So that's some time after work for me.
noon #news message
Not sure what to start out with. Had a stormclaw swipe shaman build that was fun. but don't think it will make it that far
21st; 12:00 PM got it\
Hello everyone! I've installed the game but after I click "play online" or "play offline"the client do nothing, I've checked the server status but from what I saw the service should be up and running... am I missing something?
Hey, does anyone know if each party member will have a torch when entering Lightless Arbor as a group?
server says it is down on the client itself. Won't be up until 21st your time
Look at big red text top of game
From my understanding it will be back online <t:1708534800:f>
21st
21st. 24hr downtime
oh... thanks a lot 🙂
Yeah it's hard to correct. Because slow mode.
its 6am on the 21st in Australia, its hard living in the future bros
Server down?
Yes
hey there is any information when update will be available before ladder launch ?
I would assume either some time before launch, or at launch. Probably not after launch.
is it possible to play offline when servers are donw '?
It is my understanding that if you wanted to play online you had to login before the servers went down. But when the game goes live there will be true offline.
They've already said that pre-downloading would not be possible.
Fastest download speed wins
Will Legacy characters have same access to latest content as Seasonal characters?
Steam's gonna be hammered
Steam is massive. They won't feel a thing.
yeah, steam didnt even feel a fart when palworld was selling a dozen million copies
in this season, yes. In the future, who knows
I heard endless arena ladders aren't in legacy.
correct
if is true than its big issue for ppl with not that good network ngl its not good idea.
I think the only time steam felt something was about summer sales, but way back?
If I Play solo self found, are the stash and craft mats shared between all of my ssf chars for the cycle?
I have a question regarding multiplayer. In terms of XP what is the range for XP sharing in game? And do you not get anything if you aren't killing mobs with the group?? (Posted this in main this saw this channel. Brain wasn't braining.)
Smh, people wasting their 30s cd on a yes/no when ✅ and ❌ reactions exist
Are there different leaderboards between guilds. Ssf vs market
I believe there is no xp sharing distance limit, if that's what you mean. As long as you're in the same zone, you all get xp from kills. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. My poe, grim dawn, and LE knowledge is getting all conflated
Hey, does anyone know if each party member will have a torch when entering Lightless Arbor as a group?
im pretty sure that in poe u have be near mobs to get xp right ?
if u can share exp across all map is it popular service like boosting or sht ?
Yes, poe you need to be nearby. Grim dawn I have no idea
anyone having trouble logging on to the game today
is offline playing also down?
does this game have any potential for 3rd party rmt bs or did they cover all bases?
So what happens if a high level player parties with a low level one? Nothing?
Where there's a will, there's a way. Time will tell.
Was doing it last night it worked, buddy died a lot but for like 5 lvls in a few empowered monos, seemed to work
yes
"It worked"?
Yeah I was the higher lvl, it adds hp to monsters, when he died he didn’t get bonus loot but was gaining lvls
He was trying to stay close though so not sure if that played a factor
letools down?
But "boosting" is a thing I guess.
Patch notes say no more XP from monoliths below level 50
is druid spider transformation out yet?
no extra xp
@dense remnant hey mate im trying to understand something, whats so bad about build guides? I cant message on Ask-devs cuz well its not relevant there, its been annoying me for days now
No XP You're corrct
Seems like it!
For anyone wanting to be compoetitive, in the race being done by maxroll, that ehg are sponsoring, now just has to go look at the build guides and pickw hich they think is strongest for a class they'e comfortable on
If there was no race who cares, but there is, and both maxroll and ehg are involved in it. And ehg let maxroll, and maxroll decided, to post build guides, a whole bunch of them, for endgame, that are built and testedon 1.0
It sucks.
That’s not bad 50 is pretty quick
If a player like me has enjoyed Lost Ark, BG3, Diablo etc Would it make sense that Id enjoy Last Epoch too?
Look again, Disabled bonus xp from Monolith for characters below level 50
ok... but like thats how meta's work and have always worked. If Maxroll didnt do it, someone else would?
And what does the race have anything to do with it? Thats completely irrelevant
Metas generally dont devleop a day before the patch comes out, not sure what games you play
Build guides won't teach you how best to play the game
like look at PoE league start or the Gauntlet. Theres build guides for it as well, much before the event
Guantlets arent patch release races
Anyone know why when i click to play it keeps loading nothing happening
anybody able to open lastepochtools?
Its down too
yes... yes they do... you adapt after (maybe but build guides / starters are always before
And also you decided to compeltely forego my comment about "beginning league races" in HCSSF they do.
will it be up at the same time as servers
Who knows
I believe it being down is unrelated to LE itself being down. I think they're just getting hammered.
Metas update regularly over time, for now these are theory crafted metas
Or maybe it is related in the sense that people can't play so they're trying to get to LETools
Which builds are considered to be on the the low side for APM endgame ? I assume warpath builds for WK/Paladins and what else ? Warlock also seem to be less demanding with all the autocasts isn't it ?
Is last epoch tool down because server down too?
damnit
No, it was down before LE went down
Thx
Probably getting slammed with people theory crafting their starters TBH.
thats how pretty much all the game that i know / play that are online works
League, CS balance changes, PoE, and LE. Valorant is also like this. Thats how it works.
Now why would the devs actively hinder a tool MADE BY THE COMMUNITY, that is not harmful in the slightest. And in no way goes against what LE is (like you said)
anyone here try LE on controller? i havent tried it but I have PS5 controller and actually prefer Diablo 4 on controller
Le tools is down due to traffic
only people who can relay you how 1.0 works are the people who had access to the 1.0 beta, it will be quite different
oh i didnt realize it was changing with 1.0, i guess ill check it out tomorrow 👍
Full Controller support. Hell the Deck may even work well, as LE is Linux Native.
It was ok before 1.0, just had issues with movement skill targeting and inventory management
Quick question, any word on if steamdeck support will be coming with the 1.0 release?
on D4, i use M+K for all inventory but controller for gameplay, its a sweet spot that i find comfortable
No official support for steam deck coming with 1.0.
Final sidenote, Maxroll specifically said those are THEORY CRAFTED builds, not actual indicative and will bump up-down based on how they work.
Most of those builds are 0.9 ones that have sliht buffs/nerfs and then somce builds for Warlock/Falconer theory crafted.
I'm going to hedge a bet: Steam Deck should be fine. We are getting Full Controller support and LE is Linux Native. It won't have the Steam Deck verified check mark.
For that playstyle, the biggest issue is that movement skills would auto target which led to you running off in random directions, but they said they fixed that in the patch notes
That's good enough for me!
awesome!
honestly as funny as it is i do hope that there's a fix for some movement skills being used when your mouse is outside the game window
because leaping more when i go left because i have my mouse further off screen to the left is nice but silly
And if the Linux Native client is still kinda rough, I can attest that 0.9.2 worked absolutely flawless with GE-Proton 8-3X. I doubt 1.0 will change that.
Awesome! Saving this info for tomorrow then in case!
hi everyone. Does anyone have some sources regarding like golden rules of crafting/itemization for last epoch? i understand all the runes and glyphs, but not sure what stats to go for for example and so on and so forth
The Linux Native client had missing textures in Character Creation + it had missing textures for the Overlay Map and other Minor issues. Nowhere in the Patch Notes did it mention a fix for this, but I am anticipating a surprise. I also tested this on OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Nobara (Fedora basically), and Arch (same core distro the Deck uses) and all did well with GE-Proton.
Knowledge is a beautiful thing to share. Level playing fields optimize everyone's access to fair competition.
anyone know, if the rune, that clones an item and removes forging potential, does it also remove LP?
Is it possible to drop the resonance with my friend's name without him being in PT at the time of the drop of the stone?
Sure, there's an element of pioneering the way you play, from build to gear to where you kill mobs etc - but the idea that competition is ruined rather than enhanced, by people leveling the playing field, still finds no footing here.
To my understanding this is how it works. You play with someone "frequently" and it will show up randomly. I am liable to be wrong but this was my understanding.
I've been watching some videos on builds. Am I correct for understanding, that there is meta builds for each class, but building skills around what u find "Most interresting" is also possiblity? - Unlike many other rpg
Hi! I bought the game 4 hours ago. Played for 1 hour. But now, i cant log in. The servers are green and cant go offline. Is everyone like this?
Does anyone have a good plasma orb leveling guide?
There is a loose meta... However Plasma Orb for instance on RM was stronger than Hydra yet Hydra was Meta...
Off Meta builds (aka not on Maxroll) can and are often better IMHO and also TBH.
So there are many additions for each meta build, making it possible to change ur playstyle for every build?
a build without guides on popular sites will always be underrated
Disco Mage from Raid Boss Cannon is how I'd do it.
For a minion lover: beastmaster or necromancer?
there is matchmaking into the game?
This game is about exploring and making your character powerful. The Meta is loose, it's whatever Maxroll says it is. But Maxroll cannot think of or try every build that is numerically possible. You stand a strong chance of trying something that absolutely beats what they have on their site. So yes in many ways, but it could involve new gear, new skills, new node selections, ect.
this is my first ARPG really, I understand that existing characters are transfered to legacy characters and that only cycle characters can be on ladder
does that mean I can use legacy characters + stash on new season releases in the future or do I have to restart from 0 everytime?
there is matchmaking for play coop?
you can always use them
Why I have infinite loading screen when I try to connect online on eu west?
Are Bees being buffed in 1.0? I thought I saw it in the notes yesterday... can't find it today.
I see, thx guys :3
Yes. Do skeletons and an abhorrent army you can abuse appeal? Necro. Do beasts appeal to you? Beast master.
Do you like Birb? Falconer.
yeah theorycraftd builds with videos showing them in action on 1.0 lmfao
Why cant I login the game guys ? Do you know how to fix ?
I also understood it that way but there is always that doubt..
Sounds great! Been trying out a lot of diffrent RPG's, but I keep quitting within the first 10hours, since u start off with a decent lvl build, and within lvl 30-40 in most games ur changing into the same builds as everyone else, which ruins the endgame so much. Got it 30min before shutdown, and for just 30min I really enjoyed all the different systems and play style
I'm sure The Curse and Dr3adful will come up with off Meta builds that slap harder than Maxroll for instance.
please point me to those videos. Since you mentionned those are maxroll ones, show me Maxroll videos of them playing Warlock/Falconer
thank you bro , cant play offline too ?
do we get pre order pets after launch
you'll already have them if you pre-ordered the game
I had my guppy already
there is matchmaking for play coop?
you do realize there's literally nothing less impressive than a leaderboard race which boils down to 'who spent the most time no-lifing the beta such that everyone showing up on launch day already lost' - right?
The 1 thing you are forever married to is your Mastery. The rest? Have fun.
Skills de-levelling scare you? Accelerated XP is a thing, and in End-Game you hit 2-3 Monos and it's up to 20, so no loss really.
nope
this embeded in the bleed warlock endgame build guide, i can go get the rest if you want?
ugh...
thank u ❤️
1 year ago my friend gifted this game but playing now i didn't find any pet in my inventory
any future plans to implement matchmaking for coop?
you do know thats an unlisted video... theres a reason for that.
There is no "group" content to matchmake for, if you want to just run in a group you can post in the ingame chat or in the #👥┃lfg channel on the discord here ^^
Its literally an embded in their build guide my dude lmfao, heres that https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/bleed-warlock-guide
It doesn't go in your inventory. There is a separate Cosmetic Menu to equip it.
In case you're playing offline, mtx are not available in offline mode.
Hope that matchmaking will come in a future update... it's very useful
The reset skills option, where u need to farm xp for new builds makes the game so much more interresting. Means u actually have to play the game to adjust your character to the changes u make, instead of having "Save build" options, to change within seconds
i am offline rn feelsgood
@thorny hedgei will check when servers are back thanks for the info
yeah im on that, i am trying to find the video. But thats what i have "Video Guide - coming soon"
because a SHOWCASE is not a BUILD GUIDE
quick question, what is gonna be the speedrun method people will run tomorrow? play the full campaign or till chapter 5 and then grind monoliths and finish with the dungeon and chapter 9?
just watching people on twitch play the game, servers online?
Both Game, and Authentication servers are offline for the 24 hours prior to Launch for preparations and will be available with the launch of Last Epoch <t:1708534800:f>.
Currently offline mode requires authentication, and as such is not accessible unless you were already playing offline before downtime started.
After 1.0 Launches tomorrow, the client will have a Fully Offline feature which does not require a connection at any point.
literally look directly below pros and cons, are you being intentionally like this?
Race to 100: Does Maxroll or any CT gamers get to participate at all? If they do I find that disingenuous as hell.
I hope they are, an eye for an eye, you know ^^
they will
IMHO that is a bad move.
they will participate but cant win
If you had bothered reading the second message I wrote, you’d realize how funny you sound
hi guys, played about 30 min ago, but game crashed and cant connect online or offline, is it ok?
Okay this is fair, as long as they cannot win. They have an advantage that others will not
thx but it felt like i played even when servers down
The argument the other guy was making at first, is that them making the guides at all ruins the essence of LE and creates an advantage for some. Which is not the case.
He argued other points that were even less logical but eh
My dude, you've been trying to argue maxroll arent showing their builds in action in 1.0, they have, you have proof. Keep trying to shift stuff if you want
not really, but people who played for years have an advantage for sure, game isnt a rocket science and 1.0 changes didnt change ANYTHING on a core level, so if u knew what u are doing in 0,9 u can also compete in 1.0 easily
Both Game, and Authentication servers are offline for the 24 hours prior to Launch for preparations and will be available with the launch of Last Epoch <t:1708534800:f>.
Currently offline mode requires authentication, and as such is not accessible unless you were already playing offline before downtime started.
After 1.0 Launches tomorrow, the client will have a Fully Offline feature which does not require a connection at any point.
Q: if you switch factions do you keep the items gathered in the previous one? I mean are they usable??
You answered 1 side note of what I said because you knew you had nothing for the rest.
I also wanted a build guide video, you had me a showcase. But eh wtv
thanks for amazing answer, have a nice evening=)
No, you no longer meet the rank requirement to use items from a faction if you swap to the other one.
if it makes you feel better, you're right. 🙂
I was curious about Your reasoning at first, I truly don’t understand why it’s frustrating for them to make guides pre patch
Does the rgb feature work for you guys?
Calling it on the Maxroll/CT topic - As I have said in another thread - the team is aware of the community view on this and will be discussing it. First the team want to get 1.0 out smoothly as the discussion about this deserves their full attention. We have heard you.
Sure but there are campaign changes. And CT folks literally played through it early so they'll hit CoF and understand the system perfectly, ect.
But if you keep the item and regain the rank later ? Is that gonna work?
Yes, you'll be able to use it if you swap back.
Does anyone know why the opacity of the map does not save? it constantly reverts back? is this something that is being fixed with 1.0?
that will barely affect lvl 100 race, my argument was that CT players dont really have big advantage over just a veteran player, but they arent competing anyways, so was just throwing my 2 cents
Very bad .. that fact pretty much insists you to NOT switch factions at all..
People are frustrated because a small group of "special" people were allowed a significant amount of time to solve the meta before the community even knew what would exist. As content creators they have significant influence on how the meta develops and it takes away a significant amount of the community discovery. A testing program should be for testing, not content
Yeah, switching is NOT recommended.
" If your inventory is full, stick gear with high value affixes in your stash and sell the rest.
Don't sell gear that has high value affixes to a vendor. " HOW are we suspossed to know what is considered high value????
Yes, the idea is to make choosing a faction a choice that has meaning and rewards you for sticking with one or the other.
I've noticed this as well. I didn't read all of the bug fixes in the Patch Notes as well so maybe it's fixed? Would have to check.
@minor vigil #❔┃ask-the-community message
I was wondering if I can target gold farming for the core items of my build and when I just purchase them - switch and slow down playing chilly 😅
Did they fix the Minimap bug? That it moves out of screen and you have to relog to get it back? Or does just me have it 😂
But then you can just... not follow it..? Like thats what i dont get.
They are doing a service in a way. Many dont have time / want / cant theorycraft builds and just wanna blast.
And if youre not part of that group of people, just do wtv you want. Its the same logic for races
High tier. (t5,6,7) Good affix types like hybrid health, +skill, etc
Very common affixes like x resist, +dmg, etc can be sold as you'll get a lot from just drops
once you start playin youll know
that argument is stupid imo, planners were out the same day maxroll posted all their builds, and looking at those build there is nothing special about them, honestly new stuff is so stupidly broken that anyone experienced with LE can see a node that states 8% more dmg per dex and make a dex stacking build, i used ballista as an example
ooo ok that makes a lot more sense now thx
No, think of it in similar terms to PoE SSF/Trade. You can switch in PoE out of SSF but you can't switch back. The rank requirements serve a similar purpose but you at least have the option to switch back while keeping the spirit of the mode/faction intact.
I personally don't care either way. But if I was a content creator myself especially professionally, I'd be pretty annoyed if other CCs got early access and I didn't.
some people want to derive a sense of self esteem out of being the best beta player and knower, feeling big because they kept their secrets, and deluding themselves in to thinking it's a feat of competition to be especially proud of, beating people who are on a fundamentally inequal playing field
the irony is that this person pretends to care about fairness
'wahahaha i spent hundreds of hours doing something i wouldnt share with others, i can feel my self worth sky rocketing'
does the client still crash/not load for others launching from Steam?
Yea I got it .. gonna have to face RNG Gods once again 😂 on the other side what is arpg without rng factor 🤷🏻♂️🤣
Servers are Down. Could be crashing from that, IDK.
Both Game, and Authentication servers are offline for the 24 hours prior to Launch for preparations and will be available with the launch of Last Epoch <t:1708534800:f>.
Currently offline mode requires authentication, and as such is not accessible unless you were already playing offline before downtime started.
After 1.0 Launches tomorrow, the client will have a Fully Offline feature which does not require a connection at any point.
Was happening to me last night... i just downloaded the game yesterday.. i was having to launch from the game files
Best just to wait for 1.0 now and hopefully it resolves the crashing issues for you.
Considering you can't play anyway. Then if you're having issues take some troubleshooting steps.
Am I right about dmg calculations:
Javelin's Fire Trail has 6,25 base fire dmg and 6,25 base lightning damage
- If I have dot/eledot/spell/elemental damage affix, then it will calculate total dmg as
(6,25 + 6,25) * %inc - If I have firedot/fire/lightning damage affix, then it will calculate total dmg as
6,25 + 6,25 * %inc
👍
Is Maxroll just not great for mobile? LETools down so trying Maxroll planner but can't apply passives
Yeah, kinda. If you have a mix, just do all #2. Like:
total fire = 6.25 * total %inc fire
total lightning = 6.25 * total %inc lightning
do we have the specifics for the cold/phys/thunder tempests for tempest strike? Like base spell damage/damage effectiveness? Assuming crit chance and multiplier are the standard
LETools did when I was looking at it yesterday. I assume the Maxroll planner probably does too.
Yes. Cold is 150%, phys is 150%/s, and lightning is 100%.
hows the base damage looking for them?
default
that said, idk what the duration on the phys tempest is, and idk if the lightning one can multi-hit
What’s the general differences between bleed warlock and torment warlock
Was there any word from LETools on if it might be back up? It's still down I assume?
Are the pathing issues preventing skills like flame dash for runemaster fixed in 1.0?
Does anyone know how big the download will be ?
Nothing from Dammitt, its still down.
Does anyone know what the new uniques are on 1.0?
No, not even the devs know (at least, not the ones in the ask-the-devs channel)
Yes, everyone who read the patch notes and looked up the items on LETools
Yeah, I think they have all been revealed and now up on LE Tools, etc.
I tried to read the patch notes, clicked on "new uniques" didn't pop anything to the page
Thanks. Hopefully it can handle traffic increase. If they need help funding costs (if they're going up) I'm sure this discord would help.
Patch notes just had the names, LETools had the tooltips for them
Ahhh, thats why! thanks!
soooo we can't play offline?
Both Game, and Authentication servers are offline for the 24 hours prior to Launch for preparations and will be available with the launch of Last Epoch <t:1708534800:f>.
Currently offline mode requires authentication, and as such is not accessible unless you were already playing offline before downtime started.
After 1.0 Launches tomorrow, the client will have a Fully Offline feature which does not require a connection at any point.
@sharp current you have been most helpfull
Ok i think I found the defaults for the tempests on LEtools. which just seems to be 2 base damage. And the storm bolt seems to have a base damage value of 23
Are Bees being buffed in 1.0? I thought I saw it in the notes yesterday... can't find it today.
Only bee related thing I remember from the patch notes was a set of 3 cosmetics for friend referral. But it was a lot of notes.
if u die in Cycle HC, where the char is goin? legacy standard or cycle standard?
Can you use items FOUND in merchants guild in COF? Can someone confirm.
If its tagged MG and has a MG rank requirement, no.
Yeah, they got 71% more move speed
I don't think anything found in MG aside from off the vendors maybe would be tagged?
Correct, it doesn't get tagged until traded.
Cycle SC
oh really? so we got 1 free HC shot? 😁
Not really, SC doesn't share stash with HC, so you'll lose everything you had except exactly what you had on you at time of death. Your gold, crafting mats, and faction progress are "in" your stash, too, so all gone.
Eeh Hey, can i still play offline? dumb question maybe xd..
Both Game, and Authentication servers are offline for the 24 hours prior to Launch for preparations and will be available with the launch of Last Epoch <t:1708534800:f>.
Currently offline mode requires authentication, and as such is not accessible unless you were already playing offline before downtime started.
After 1.0 Launches tomorrow, the client will have a Fully Offline feature which does not require a connection at any point.
damn i bought the game and after 5 min it went offline, i was super sad
Equation for damage calculation: (Base Damage + (Added Damage)*(Damage Effectiveness of the ability) * (All Increased Damage added together) * (All More damage multiplicatively)
Damage can crit at a rate of: (Base crit chance + "+" Critical Strike change) *
Equation for HP: (Base HP + Added HP) * (Increased HP)
Damage is applied directly to your HP, after being reduced by:
Resistance to the element of the attack. (capped at 75%). These affect DoT (Damage over time like ignite) and Hits. Going over 75% is not wasted because enemies have innate penetration, but should not be your focus. Reach the cap for your resistances at 75%
Armor reduces damage from all types of attacks. It is 70% as effective against non-physical damage. This has diminishing returns, so just get some armor, but don't target it aggressively.
Critical Strikes deal double damage, but this chance can be reduced with Critical Strike Avoidance. Get 100%
Endurance. Any damage done to you while your HP is below your endurance threshold is reduced by Endurance. This
Block, Dodge, Glancing blow, and others are build specific but shouldn't be a huge focus for you.
Will LET be down until tomorrow as well?
Guessing we can't play offline characters either then. Is that right?
LETools being down is unrelated to LE being down. They're just getting hammered with high amounts of traffic.
Really? Damn. Wish them the best of luck 🙏
Do we know when we will have 1.0 for download? Just trying to make sure I dont download it 5 minutes before the start xD
When does the Server come online? German Time?
You wont get it 5 minutes before it starts. Because it wont be available UNTIL it starts at 11AM CST Feb 21st.
What's a good cycle starter?
16.00 i belive
It comes back 11 am (UTC -6) or?
How long will monsters follow you for?
11 AM CST, 6PM German Time
What do you mean with 18 PM. there is no 18 PM. You mean 6 PM?
As long as they are contractually obligated to do so.
Yeap, corrected it. Brain fart
ooh sorry its 06:00 PM (18:00) sweden time but german and sweden are in the same time zone
It's not an exact science. It's pretty far, though, like a few screens.
Its even worse in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs Just saw the same question posted 3 times within 10 messages of each other. 
lol you're telling me
its just the entire server. XD
I'm just trying to stay in this little corner here but I get curious and then I regret it. XD
Maybe next time they will remember to put that info somewhere really clear (if they didnt already) 😁
It was really clear in many places
What are you playing for release?
And how much playtime do you guys have ingame?
cam you guys log in the game
Game is down for launch
Both Game, and Authentication servers are offline for the 24 hours prior to Launch for preparations and will be available with the launch of Last Epoch <t:1708534800:f>.
Currently offline mode requires authentication, and as such is not accessible unless you were already playing offline before downtime started.
After 1.0 Launches tomorrow, the client will have a Fully Offline feature which does not require a connection at any point.
Please read the #news
whats better %increased health or added health?
the game is down until 6pm CET tommorow
oohh okay i just bought it and wanted to try it so i was thinking why i cant get in xd
Both
yes but if you have to choose one
Math it and check if you need more base or more percent
Whats your total life? How much life do you get from % life vs flat
Which one is greater?
Thats the very simple straight forward math
why does everyone on reddit/online recommend making your own builds as a new player to the genre? i have dabbled in a build planner for the last couple hours and it's all extremely overwhelming and hard to understand what most of the skills/passives do
Everyone?
If you don't want to do the math, it's probably the %inc
MaxHealth = (92 + 8 * CharacterLevel + AddedHealth) * (1 + IncreasedHealth)
If you dont enjoy theory crafting etc, dont feel you have too. Its just LE is very friendly when it comes to experimenting. if thats not something you like, feel free to pick a guide
that doesnt make any sense
Because it's fun and totally doable without prior knowledge. I don't recommend your first build to be made in the planner, just by playing the game.
^ Definitely this.
now this makes sense
You own me one to make me type that
You have 1000 Life.
You have a afix that gives you 10% health 1000*.1 = 100 health
You have affix that gives you 50 flat health.
which one do you take
Hey guys I bought the game way back.. maybe patch 0.4 and haven't really played since. Kinda forgot about it and realised 1.0 is coming tomorrow.
I don't have much time to explore all the classes so I'm wondering what's the class based around procs and gimmicks.
@faint cape makes sense. i guess im just feeling overwhelmed but i do really want to try making my own
A lot of them do that! What kind of procs/gimmicks are you looking for?
I would say just jump into the game tomorrow then and pick a class and go wild. Save the build planning for when you get a feel for the game.
It is not really a problem if you follow a build guide man. Have fun, learn a bit about the game, try to make your own later
Windfury from wow was always my favourite
While it is doable to make your own build, there are a shiton of people saying that the build they made is awesome and works fine when they didnt even reach Empowered Monos. Play the game in the way you have fun and go for it
Yeah, like the others said - pick something you think looks fun. All masteries have viable builds, and the class/mastery you pick is the only thing you can't respec out of. You can't brick your character at all
Has anyone tried Last Epoch with Crossover/Wine or GPTK on macOS?
I know Last Epoch had a mac client they abandoned, but I am asking to run the Windows version under Crossover.
There's a druid swarmblade build that procs tornadoes that then cast lightnings, I think that might be something up your alley (sometimes people call it lightning bug, I think you can make it into a frostbite DOT build, too)
is each skill viable if you spec into it? i guess that's my biggest issue right now is picking what skills to actually use. i understand how to search for different things in the search bar and tailor the build that way but i have no idea which skills are good or the utility of them. and how much defense to go for vs damage
One can pick Acid Flask for example because they found it interested and get f"§$%" for not being able to play end game because the skill sucks. If this is your first aRPG at all, find something you find fun, get a guide and go for it. aRPG players like to sound smart sometimes
Allright thank you!
i want to play a class that moves and clears a map real fast, what would you advice?
Shadow Dagger Rogue
oki, thank you
Which specialization of loot have you guys sound success with? Merchant guild or SSF
None yet, they will be released tomorrow.
11?
Oh they weren’t in the beta. Which one are u thinking of pursuing?
Is it open at 11?