❔┃ask-the-community

[toxic echo]

both are possible

[past patrol]

I got 3, let's try them! any preferrable item slot to use them?

[toxic echo]

whatever you need, tbh

[low coyote]

Don't do like me and try to get apathy maw using them.

[solid sentinel]

Hey, downloading the game right now. Whats the best meta classes right now? Wanna start something that can smash the endgame later on

[faint cape]

All classes have good builds for the end game, but the easiest to start with currently are probably bladedancer, druid, or runemaster

[solid sentinel]

Are there bosses in the game that need specific classes/builds?

[solid sentinel]

bladedancer sounds like the fastest gameplay of those 3?

[faint cape]

No, all classes can do all content. You do at least need a good/decent build, and the main difference is some classes have more options than others.

[faint cape]

I feel like druid is the fastest and best all around with enough investment, but that's just for my own playstyle, so ymmv. Bladedancer is very good as well, and runemaster is the newest class so it's well-made and flashy.

[solid sentinel]

I see, thanks. I guess I am gonna take a quick look into all 3 of them

[tough echo]

Hey 🙂 for what to do in lategame the Dungeons where you need the Keys? Whats the point in that? (sry just arrived lvl 100 Echoes)

[toxic echo]

Dungeons each have boss drops thay only drop there, they each have a different reward mechanic at the end of them, and they also have specific daily mods for different gear drops. Also fine for a breakup in the monotany of monolith grinding.

[tough echo]

ah i c ! with specific drops you mean Uniques? is there a list of every Boss and his Drop?

[native sail]

Yes to both

[tough echo]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/endgame/dungeons/temporal-sanctum/tier4
already found it tyvm!

[native sail]

Also one of the dungeons is integral to endgame gearing for most builds as it is required to make legendary items (excluding Weaver items).

[zealous orchid]

did EHG ever say if they are keeping around seasonal mechanics for full game?

[cinder fossil]

the first few cycle mechanics will be designed to be permanent

after that it'll probably depend on how the playerbase likes them

[last roost]

Hey all, I am getting disconnects very often meaning I have to rerun levels. I don't think it#s me as every other game I play is ok. Is there anything I can do?

Argh I just got rolled back 3 zones 😢

[shadow bronze]

Quick question - in smite hammerdin, is there really no point you could give up to get the hammers follow you node (vortex)? Is the mana cost too much or is it just a damage thing? I'm just thinking from a convenience perspective

[last roost]

10 tries at "The Keeper's Vault" quest, game has lost connection each time. I'm totally stuck

I think I have no choice but to request a refund. I simply can't play 😦

[toxic echo]

server issues on a holiday weekend when everyone is home playing and no one is at work fixing it? say its not so

you can always try verifying files, and some people have success trying other servers on certain area loads.

[late axle]

Anyone know how to fix the lost connection issue? the game is pretty much unplayable right now.

[faint cape]

I'm not sure what you mean, most hammerdin builds will always take the orbiting node

[shadow bronze]

Maxroll one does not apparently.

[desert tree]

I think they mean Spiraling + Orbiting

And yes the QoL is just too good

[shadow bronze]

Yeah, both. What do I drop from this tree to get it though?

projectile speed?

[faint cape]

Yeah, can't get orbit without spiral

[faint cape]

Yes, I'm not totally sure on this, but I think projectile speed is a negative stat for the build

You'd probably be better off taking both points from proj speed and put them in orbit and slower proj and attack speed

(well, some combo of that)

[solid kindle]

guys wanna buy last epoch, does multiplayer sync fixed? cuz i watched videos 1 year ago and saw problems with it.

[sudden wedge]

#❔┃ask-the-community hi all. does anyone know who can change my disc name to reflect my kickstarter support?

[native sail]

Contact support

!support

[ripe brook]

Need a hand? Just head on down to https://support.lastepoch.com/ for support articles or to reach out to us directly.

[hallow cipher]

hi im new, whats the best and FUN mastery to pick for the sentinel

[sinful laurel]

The one you like playing the most

[hallow cipher]

whats fun atm?

[sinful laurel]

VK, paladin and forge guard are all fun

[icy drift]

Lol

[sterile bane]

Merry Christmas all

[pastel pebble]

True

[pastel pebble]

Merry Christmas!

[sudden wedge]

is there a way to see totem dmg?

[faint cape]

Minions don't have tooltip damage, so only ways are looking at damage number popups (like against the dummy) or manual calculation

[sudden wedge]

ty

[dusk island]

I've cultivated 10 characters and they're gone. What's going on? No role is displayed on the login page

My game character is missing. What can I do?

Has anyone been in the same situation as me? Want to reinstall it in the game?

[surreal verge]

Online, according to his reply in General (He triple posted, in panic I hope)

[icy drift]

Ah mb

[coarse parcel]

guys I seem to have an issue with LE as of late. I play on a laptop and it frequently shuts itself and the monitor on and off during gameplay and it's getting more frequent now. It only happens when I play LE and not while I'm doing something else it seems. Anybody encountered this issue before ? Probably overheating ?!, but I've played Doom Eternal also and it doesn't seem to perform the same.

[desert tree]

Maybe a ram issue. I know LE tends to leak a bit

[coarse parcel]

Nah, it just now happened randomly while I was writing this and I'm not in game.

[surreal verge]

[rigid patio]

Hello everybody,
I was just about to buy the game and then I stoped myself. I didn't know how the seasons will work.

You see, I'm a 35 years old gamer dad with a gamer mom. We have 2 toddler kids. I mean seasons are cool, but I just won't have the time to enjoy them. And if eternal realm doesn't get constant updates what else is left for me?

D3 had many difficulty levels and a 100 paragon levels with stats.
D4 has nothing besides seasons.
PoE sometimes adds new content to non season realm.

Anyone knows anything more besides the fact there will be seasons that last 3 monts?

[icy drift]

Both season and standard will have the exact same content at the same time (except for maybe some minor experimental things, but that's a maybe at most right now)

So you won't be missing out in content playing standard (eternal, whatever you wanna call it)

[rigid patio]

Oh, wow, this sounds absolutely amazing. Thanks.

[latent herald]

I just dropped a huge upgrade but its behind decor and I cant get there 😢

[analog wadi]

you think increased adorned idol drop rate increases drop rate for throne of ambition?

[gleaming harness]

will offline players get new servers with the new content same time as multiplayer servers?

[surreal verge]

Non-online related content, yes.

(AKA no leaderboards and the like)

[gleaming harness]

yea that is fair, ty

[surreal verge]

Yes, probably.

[hallow galleon]

Merry Christmas 🎄 everyone!

Noob Question:

If I create a filter that hides all items for all but the Acolyte class, does this mean I will never see non class associated Uniques?

I ask because I have said filter and I'm seeing no Unique drops in my game play.

[surreal verge]

Maybe, most uniques are not class locked, so just lock out items not for your class and for all classes

[faint cape]

No, blessings do not affect boss drops

[desert tree]

You can always add a rules on top "show all uniques" to be on the safe side

[hallow galleon]

I did that last night but I fear I've borked my game play up to this point lol. I'm at level 35 or something. Kinda want to start fresh now that I know things 🧠.

[pallid wave]

Wassup guys, so i am fighting lagon, and it is the first boss that is giving me a hard time

am supposed to not die from his one shots ?

am i * ?

[surreal verge]

His only one shot is the sweeping beam.

If you get one shotted by anything else you have a defense issue.

If you lose more than 40% of your health from his claw slam you have a very bad defense issue,.

[pallid wave]

yeah makes sense i almost got him but i need some defense (i was wondering when will i need to have it)

[surreal verge]

Lagon is the build check, good luck!

[faint cape]

Lagon is more of a 'learn the fight' kind of boss imo. You can reliably dodge almost all of his attacks once you learn them. I think you have to try really hard to not be able to tank a claw to the face or a couple waves occasionally, but obviously being tankier makes it a lot more comfortable.

The act 9 boss has a bit higher of a bar for its build check

[pallid wave]

ladies and gentlemen we got him

[last roost]

I made an offline character and now the game is perfect. It doesn't seem like I am missing out on anything offline so I'm a happy bunny at the moment

Question: Eterra's blessing. It says it targets nearest ally however it only seems to make my wolf all big and scary if I actually have my cursor on it as I press it. It seems a little contradictory and he is hard to spot in a crowd. Am I doing it wrong or is it just how it works?

[coarse parcel]

how can I check how many +skills a helm mod can give based on tiers ?

[sinful laurel]

Lastepochtools.com

[desert tree]

T1-4 >+1
T5>+2
T6>+3
T7>+4

[crude jewel]

had anyone already the idea and suggested it or does anyone know is it planned, to get an search function in echoes? so i can more easily find specific echoes? and/or to highlight somehow those specific echoes?

[icy drift]

Yes it's been suggested many times

[crude jewel]

aight thanks a lot :)

[coarse parcel]

Does blood splater from Rip Blood make it so you leech more mana from hitting more mobs ?

[sinful laurel]

No

[coarse parcel]

It just has more coverage and has a better chance to hit mobs then ?

[sinful laurel]

The blood splatter is a secondary AOE damage effect from rip blood. But it's the rip blood itself that creates the orbs that return mana if you spec into it.

[arctic arch]

If something procs off my minions doing something, does it always say so? Like do I need to look out for "Summon bees on your minions hits" "Gain life when your minions kill things" or is that all lumped into me?

[coarse parcel]

Is the Archmage node for the skele mages worth it ? Does he single handedly do more dmg than 5 mages or is it a bait ?

[low coyote]

Are online and offline on 2 different patches? I seem to be experiencing some strange bugs but only in the online version of the game.
Playing a Necromancer, my minions die/explode every time I move to a different map, and they are not present in towns/end of time
My Skeleton mages seem to get stuck only summoning one type from time to time
There's a significant delay sometimes when I'm leaving one map/zone to another area, and if all my minions have exploded (see above point) it can leave me defensless for a while.
Are these just "features" of online play?

[slate lintel]

can somebody help me out
i need to get to the courtyard in ruined era but i dont know how to get there

[toxic echo]

they are the same patch. minions will never be summoned in town, all skills are disabled in towns. the delay's in loading is all server.

[coarse parcel]

Can you regenerate mana effectively through wondering spirits node song of the lost chantry ? Or how does it work ?

[slow smelt]

Hi, i was wondering is this game an mmo or can i play in a private game with my family of 6

[dense root]

not an mmo

max party size is four i think but not 100% sure

[slow smelt]

thanks

[sterile bane]

It’s 4 and it won’t change

[faint cape]

Yes, it must say minion (or totem/companion) to affect minions

[faint cape]

Yeah, particularly if you convert the spell to channeled

it's not instant mana, but it does return quite a bit

[pale timber]

What are the fastest Julra kill builds atm?

[nocturne sage]

So what's up with this? Detonating Arrow here, but this has been happening with most rogue bow skills that are like "line" targeted (idk how they're classified). I can shoot at this guy forever and it'll never hit. But Cinder Arrow's 1st hit (the AOE) will never miss (though its 2nd and 3rd hits will miss). Can't shoot barrels most of the time either with these skills. It isn't 100% of the time but when it does happen I can do it over and over. Like now where I was able to type all this up and record a clip and recreate it on demand lol.

[sinful laurel]

Known bug s

[nocturne sage]

Cool stuff, is there a way to mitigate? Or where can I read about it? I'll poke around. Just gonna aoe my way to victory til fix I guess lol.

[sinful laurel]

Nope. DA and flurry are fucked right now. Nothing to be done.

[nocturne sage]

Ohhh just those two. HA. Okay ty ty!

[desert tree]

Check The Curse on YouTube

[faint cape]

All I know is that abom can one-shot her. With enough investment, many builds can squeeze it down to killing her before the first blast, probably

[pale timber]

I got her w meteor in about 1 sec

[arctic arch]

So definitely "gain mana on kill" doesn't proc if my minions kill things?

[surreal verge]

Nope, you have to kill.

[arctic arch]

Hmm, why can I summon 3 skeleton mages instead of 2? I don't see any bonus or passive I have that would be doing that

oh nm it's the Necromancer mastery bonus itself

[arctic arch]

why does this have 8 ranks? I guess this implies there is a hidden base chance (say 10%) and each rank increases that rate by 25% of the base (i.e. +2.5%)?

[desert tree]

You get 25%chance per point

At 8 pts you get 200% so that's 2 stacks of shred per minion hit

[arctic arch]

Oh damn. That's good right?

[desert tree]

There is no cap for armor shred

If you are doing a hit minion build, yes

If you are doing a dot minion build no, because armor mitigate only hit

[surreal verge]

As a rule, ailments can go over 100%./

[arctic arch]

Does Rip Blood stop being affected by healing effectiveness when you use Arcane Fortress? It says the amount I would have been healed turns to Ward... which sounds like it should be gained pre-conversion. Is this actually not only halving the amount but turning off the healing effectiveness gain?

[ancient wedge]

strongest void knight build?

[desert tree]

Warpath, Anvil Rive, Hammer Smite

[desert tree]

It should be affected by healing effect

[arctic arch]

Ok, I wonder why it says this

[surreal verge]

Then it doesn't.

[arctic arch]

😦 Seems... weird. Goign down to less than 1/4 of the life gain, in ward

[desert tree]

Maybe there are node that modify how much life you get

Inside the skill tree

[surreal verge]

1. It cuts it in half then converts into ward.
2. Ward technically has no cap.

[arctic arch]

But the pre-cut-in-half number, is it still affected by healing effectiveness like the normal spell? Like by default it heals 10, and say I have +100% healing effectiveness and would get 20 health normally, am I getting 10 ward? Or am I getting 5 because I no longer get the +100%?

[surreal verge]

It now ignores healing effectiveness.

[crude jewel]

"bonuses tripled if howled..." if i have herald of scurry and the howled is replaced with sciurine rage, does it triple too or only with howled?

[desert tree]

It works Sciurine Rage

[past patrol]

I was trying to search for "damage over time" items in my stash to get some shard but I noticed that the search filter in the stash if I write "over time" show a lot of items even that don't have that affix, is it normal?

[desert tree]

Do you have an exemple?

Iirc it also look into the alt tooltip

[old terrace]

is there a build guide out there that showcases the lich build that uses reaper and zombies that are at the top of the leaderboards?

[desert tree]

So for instance ignite chance item would appear

[desert tree]

Look at the alt tooltip

Health regen might have the words "over time"

[desert tree]

That a bugged build iirc

Try your luck in #💀┃acolyte

[past patrol]

oh shit, Armor alt tooltip says that it doesn't reduce damage over time

so every item with armor shows

[desert tree]

Damn, thats a bit bonker

[hallow galleon]

Noob Question: Is there a way to move tabs from one category to another? Nvm

[faint cape]

Right, I think the way I've gotten around this in the past is putting "increased" or "more" (or a partial end of the word) before

or if you're looking for something else like mitigation, that would be another slightly different search

[eternal stratus]

hey there, do i get anything if i do the quests echoes before i reset the timeline? I already did them once

[warm yew]

Quest Echoes help count-down the Enemy Modifiers for your boss fights, and can let you pick different outcomes for the questlines inside them (opening different paths between the monoliths).

Plus, most of them have a kill-count chest, so wiping the board is free loot.

[eternal stratus]

i mean the 3 quests from the stability bar

[warm yew]

Aye, I'm talking about the same ones.

[sterile bane]

No

They are pointless

[arctic arch]

Are time rifts random? I went to town and came back and re-cleared the map and can't find it, unless I was hallucinating

why does this have block effectiveness at all, if it always reduces damage to 0?

[sinful laurel]

Just the base implicits

[solemn willow]

starting to regret spending those free epoch points on the soul eater set. Also I really thought you guys might throw out a few more free epoch points for Christmas. Or a free Christmas cosmetic and/or pet.

[sterile widget]

https://tenor.com/view/the-walking-dead-zombies-walking-creepy-gory-gif-10634473

[pallid wave]

i was gonna say majasa first try then got killed by second phase

so now i beat majasa it

is officially end game ? monolith and dugeons ?

[sonic saddle]

Yep

[sonic saddle]

No

[sonic saddle]

Because there's no point in making a new base to not give it a stat which does nothing on the item

[pallid wave]

when i see reward lost because of dying in echo is there a time to get them back ?

a way*

[sonic saddle]

No

[deft orchid]

Got a funny clip that IDK where to post.
Might need addressed in a patch
might be ok

Still want to share
But where would be the best place to share it?

[sonic saddle]

If you die in an echo and lose rewards that echo can never have rewards again, even if you do a vessel of chaos or clear it and do a vessel of memory

[sonic saddle]

#💬┃general

._.

If it's a bug then make a bug report on the forums

With the clip

[deft orchid]

IDK if it is a bug

that is a big ol "maybe"

[sonic saddle]

Post it in general then i guess

[pallid wave]

well now to play the other classes and masteries

my first was paladin imrpvised build

what do you suggest next ?

a change of gameplay would be cool

[dense root]

bladedancer

[pallid wave]

so uniques that have no legendary potential are good for nothing else ?

i mean except being good items at low level

[dense root]

well you can equip them

some uniques don’t need lp to be strong

and some uniques are sufficiently unlikely to get lp that if you want the unique effect you’re best off settling for a 0lp copy

[pallid wave]

is ther a prefered order for the dungeons ?

or just go

[dense root]

i don’t think the order matters

[gleaming harness]

did the devs mention if we will have the option to skip campaign in the future? I want to test more masteries but after doing it for the 5th time I find it to be the biggest mental obstacle

i honestly do not know how POE players keep doing it every season, that is impressive

[pallid wave]

yeah they did

they think you have to play campain but there is a way to do it faster through dungeons i think

[gleaming harness]

oh that is absolutely amazing, ty

[pallid wave]

i just finished my first campain so am still fresh

[gleaming harness]

hope we get that during the 1.0

[pallid wave]

i think it is already in

[gleaming harness]

wait what

[gleaming harness]

just checked a video on youtube do u mean the dungeon keys that can make u jump areas?

[surreal verge]

Yes.

They don’t plan on a true campaign skip

[gleaming harness]

ah rip

[pallid wave]

am i crazy to think that items with higher 'value' are better than lower ones ? (it's how i filter them )

[sinful laurel]

Yes. You're going to miss out on a huge amount of gear

[pallid wave]

but usually i see that i tems with good ranges on their affixes and high forge potential are expensive so it works kindof

[arctic arch]

is there a way to see items other players in party drop on the ground rather than having to rely on Gifting?

[sinful laurel]

Do what you want lol

[pallid wave]

haha i guess my question is how the value of an item is determined

[sinful laurel]

Unsure. But that's not really what's important. Even if gold value correlated with affix ranges and forging potential, you aren't controlling at all for which affixes show, which is like...the most important part...

[surreal verge]

Nope,it’s all instanced

[native sail]

Nope, loot is instanced

[surreal verge]

Value of what? Gold?

[pallid wave]

yeah price

[surreal verge]

….

Don’t.

(They sell for shit)

[sinful laurel]

He doesn't care about selling them kzb

Read up lol

[surreal verge]

uses value to filter them

Don’t

[sinful laurel]

I tried

[surreal verge]

What you want and value depends on your build and what affixes you need.
You might get a BiS drop that is worth a fortune for others,but does jack and all for you

[pallid wave]

okay so i gotta invest some time making loot filters

i am planning to have at a least a character for each mastery

so i am hording

just finished the campain with 1 character

[faint cape]

I can tell you staight up, it's almost never worth saving normal/magic/rare items for other classes. Exalted or better is pretty much the minimum outside some niche cases maybe.

[arctic arch]

does Smite stop working sometimes? like in the middle of combat E jsut doesn't do anything now

fixed on zoning... that's concerngin

[surreal verge]

Are you sure you didn't just run out of mana

[arctic arch]

haha yes. It stopped owrking for the next 10 minutes

[surreal verge]

[desert tree]

You really need to find a way to generate more mana then

[arctic arch]

smort

does Solo Account Found or whatever give higher drop rates? my first character was, but maybe she just got lucky with 4 necro uniques/set items near the start

[native sail]

Nope.

Just RNG being RNG

[pulsar prism]

Hello, I have two standard character found heroes in offline mode and I'd like to transfer stuff between them. How doI do it? The stash of the second player is empty.

[native sail]

Character found can't be transferred between characters. That's uh... why it's character found.

[pulsar prism]

?? What?

[native sail]

IIRC the text is currently bugged to swap the offline function vs the online function

[pulsar prism]

The text clearly said we oculd...

[pulsar prism]

Great... I've been hoarding stuff for nothing lol.

They really need to fix this tooltip for new players, it's a HUGE letdown to not be able to transfert stuff when the tooltip clearly said otherwise...

I wasted so much space hoarding stuff for nothing, great :/

[native sail]

It will be fixed, text bugs are generally low priority though.

They know it exists, it's just not something that alone warrants a patch in their eyes

[arctic arch]

playing in a party and sometimes we can't see each other on the minimap, is there a workaround for that? aside from I guess reloading the map

[pulsar prism]

Is there a way to disable this character found option in an existing character? Since files are local, maybe I could change that. I don't play online cause I lag too much

I'm guessing it must be a simple boolean value in a save file?

[arctic arch]

I thought there was an option during login or something to opt out (permanently ofc)

[native sail]

I think there's a toggle in the settings menu?

[faint cape]

Yes, you can disable the solo challenge in options. It will migrate your character only, so your stash is deleted (carry everything you want in your inventory)

[pulsar prism]

Are money, runes, glyphs and shards shared too ?

[faint cape]

Those are in your stash

[arctic arch]

oooof

[faint cape]

So they are lost, but it's really a minor setback at worst tbh

[arctic arch]

that's a mega feelsbad situation

[faint cape]

A bit. It's really not that bad though

[pulsar prism]

I need to finish the game to get this option it appears?

[faint cape]

No, just need to login to the char iirc

[pulsar prism]

Ok I'll try

OK I have the button... It's a pain in the ass to lose everything lol but at least, I won't have to restart a character.

[arctic arch]

do mega crafting first

and put all your good shit in your inventory haha

[pulsar prism]

Ahah indeed

[arctic arch]

use all your ascended orbs or whatever

[arctic arch]

how does partying with a low level person work? i.e. my friend died in HC

do they get less XP? can I power level them? are quests broken?

[pulsar prism]

Is minion not being able to be crited a good perk on a minion build?

I have a ring which gives me this but since I get sometimes get one shotted by some bosses, I wanted to up my survival rate and I got a good combo with endurance and an armor which drains my life for wards which should activate endurance all the time, so I'm thinking of scrapping the no crit for minion ring for another ring with max endurance to reduce my damage by 60% all the time. Would that work?

[native sail]

No, yes, sometimes.

[native sail]

Yes, very. It can keep your minions from getting one shot, which is great.

[pulsar prism]

Ok, I'll have to find another item to switch then. Thanks!

[analog wadi]

does endurance affect ward?

[analog wadi]

endurance doesnt affect ward

[pulsar prism]

Oh, damn, that's too bad.

Thanks for the warning

Are you sure btw?

It's not stated in game endurance does not work on ward

it only states reducing incoming hits

https://www.icy-veins.com/last-epoch/resistances-and-mitigation

Meaning as long as my life if below the endurance threshold, damage would be reduced even if I have ward on

Here, I have 250 endurance threshold and the armor drain my life up to 178. Meaning I do meet the conditions for endurance to kick in, even if I have still have some wards one?

And on top of that, this armor lets me summon the revenant each time I warp, it's awesome

[native sail]

Endurance only works on life.

[pulsar prism]

Damn, too bad then

[native sail]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/endurance

[pulsar prism]

Well, it's not completely lost anyway, my golem still heals me so it's worth a shot and see how it goes

Thanks for the link

[native sail]

No prob. That link is just an outside source for the in game guide (hit G) anyway :P

[pulsar prism]

Indeed, After hovering my life UI, it clearly states endurance does not work on ward, too bad

[native sail]

There's good reason for that tbf (mainly because ward has no inherent cap to it and with proper generation can be far, FAR higher amounts than life)

[surreal verge]

Imagine low life ward builds with endurance working, their eHP will skyrocket

They might even gain the ability to facetank T4 julia

[pulsar prism]

lol

[surreal verge]

A good build can hit like 15k ward no issue already

[native sail]

As if some can't already

[surreal verge]

They still gotta dodge the “change era or die” bomb no?

[native sail]

Not all of em

[surreal verge]

[icy drift]

yeah people have tanked the bomb

[arctic arch]

Weavers Will items will level up when my minions kill things, right?

[surreal verge]

They should, as long as kills happen

[arctic arch]

Haha it leveled just as you said that, whew

[surreal verge]

(It’s chance based so pray to rng)

It might happen in 60 seconds, it might take 10 minutes

[icy drift]

iirq it's 3% chance per enemy killed with a 15 second cd after it procs or something

might be 1%

[arctic arch]

neat

[surreal verge]

Heard that it’s 1% but not sure either

[icy drift]

you get the gist either way, not really worth trying to cheese it since you can usually just keep farming normally with one or two items swapped out for ww items while leveling them

unless your build is giga dependant on a unique in one of the slots

[arctic arch]

ffs TIL, someone needs to teach these guys what buyback means 🙂

[surreal verge]

Their buyback has a quirk of wiping it the moment you leave the zone

Oops

[arctic arch]

of wiping what? I see really old stuff in here

I meant it needs to not be retail cost

[surreal verge]

It should be the exact same cost you sold it for no?

[arctic arch]

yes, yes it should, of course, but it is not

[surreal verge]

I dont use buyback so er,maybe it bugged out?

[arctic arch]

go look at the buyback tab rq

[outer garnet]

anybody knows if there was any update regarding long loading times for the zones?

[arctic arch]

what's the deal with zoning into areas with like 2/3 of my hp?

[safe harness]

Think it has current hp be your life without % increased to hp applied

[arctic arch]

is +minion hp regen (flat not %) really to their base hp? i've got +20 minion hp regen and this normal ass skeleton is taking forever to heal up

oh it's because this Weaver thing needs to be re-equipped to take effect

[limpid stirrup]

Does anyone have disconnects when they change the map?

[pallid wave]

never tried online tbh

[low coyote]

The skeleton also needs to be resummoned for stats to stick.

[pallid wave]

can we expect change in the campaign for 1.0 ?

i find the ending and some parts in the middle kind of meh

[desert tree]

It's not complete rn

[pallid wave]

i think the story is interesting and could benefit of better execution

[desert tree]

We will have 3 more chapters down the line but nothing major at 1.0

[surreal verge]

There's like 3 more chapters that aren't in yet I think?

[low coyote]

Don't we have an emperor to poke with an enchanted spear?

[pallid wave]

i forgot about his ass hahahaha

[arctic arch]

Pyromancers seems to have fully replaced my skeleton mage pool with fire skeleton mages rather than adding them to the pool 😦

[surreal verge]

Did you take this node?

[arctic arch]

nope

[surreal verge]

Might be pure random, check the skill's alt text

[pallid wave]

is there an article/video detailing what affix goes on what gear slot ? to start minmaxing my build ?

or anything goes anywhere ?

[low coyote]

This happened to me too. Relogging was the only way to restore

[surreal verge]

Each item always has 2 prefix and 2 suffix slots, otherwise LETools is your friend.
Prefixes are mostly offensive while suffixes are mostly defensive
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/

[desert tree]

https://youtu.be/k0fMZA7OO9M?si=km5TvErZBjDeNpg9

It's still 99% accurate

[pallid wave]

what i love about the game is how my random unoptimized build works even in the end game, only now after level 60 that i am starting to see things to do better. I made a paladin that uses judgement to proc frenzy + healing and uses bleed weapons while spinning to win and i have a javelin lightning thing goinig on for range attacks

[surreal verge]

[haughty arrow]

is there a viable build possible?

[desert tree]

Dr3adful made a bleed Warpath VK a while ago on yt

I don't think I have seen anything particularly good with it

[candid elm]

If you want some ideas, you can use the filters in the build section of Last Epoch Tools to see builds that use that item https://www.lastepochtools.com/builds/filter/item=UAwFmCYA4EYg
Looks like there's only two listed there

[haughty arrow]

nice, thx

[haughty arrow]

is there a consensus about how watchers are the most annoying enemies?

[surreal verge]

Who?

[haughty arrow]

these matrix style tentacle things

[surreal verge]

Ehhhh, you'll find worse

[haughty arrow]

they cant be frozen and theyre just too beefy for their looks

looks and tankiness dont fit

[surreal verge]

Well bosses can't be frozen...

Oh.

You're at lagon's dungeon.

[haughty arrow]

theyre no bosses

just regular monsters

[surreal verge]

Well you're about to find out why-

[surreal verge]

Unless you're using snap freeze, freeze isn't 100%

No, they aren't the worse mobs.

[haughty arrow]

they cant be frozen with snap :/

[surreal verge]

Then they have freeze immunity, snap freezes literally anything that isn't immune

[native sail]

Those things aren't that bad tbh. If you're struggling with them your damage output is far too low and you need to see if you can fix that. The real bad things are like emerald assassins, diamond matrons, wengari axe throwers in higher corruption. And literally every large mob in Soulfire for some reason.

[surreal verge]

And also ice elementals

I hate those bastards

[native sail]

Jesus the fucking ice bat things if you give them armor shred are actual nightmares. Like 50 stacks in 2 seconds...

[haughty arrow]

talking about common monsters they stick out to me. they are just much more tanky than all the average monsters around them in my perception. but im also more joking rather than complaining btw 🙂

and my damage is fine id say, everything shattering like crazy (shatter strike spellblade), but these keep stopping my flow

[surreal verge]

💀

[haughty arrow]

but theyre not much of a danger at least

[surreal verge]

Well you're two chapters away from dread.

Soon TM

[analog wadi]

i dont see anything in my build that does that

trying to decide if i need to report

i have this node but it says refund and it doesnt use all mana anyways

andim not using ice barrage yet

[surreal verge]

What?

[analog wadi]

sometimes i randomly lose mana

all of it

[surreal verge]

Just to note the refund only works if you directly casted it by pressing the button

ANy other uniques?

[analog wadi]

shackles twited heart and snowdrift

[surreal verge]

You know what, link a planner, maybe it's hidden somewhere

[analog wadi]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/ZA8KGbgo

[neon compass]

Runemaster, Level 99 (Beta 0.9.2f)

Class:

Mage (20) / Sorcerer (18) / Spellblade (6) / Runemaster (68)

General:

▸ Health: 1,291, Regen: 20/s
▸ Mana: 160, Regen: 10/s
▸ Ward Retention: 400%, Regen: 43/s
▸ Attributes: 16 Str / 3 Dex / 53 Int / 3 Att / 3 Vit
▸ Resistances: 143% / 148% / 106% / 86% / 146% / 95% / 74%
▸ EHP: 1,742 / 1,742 / 1,742 / 1,977 / 1,742 / 1,742 / 1,732

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 20%, Threshold: 258
▸ Dodge Chance: 1% (17)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 31% (1,524)
▸ Crit Avoidance: 17%

Damage Types:

▸ Cold, Fire, Lightning / Spell

Buffs:

▸ None

Used skills:

• Flame Ward (21)
• Frost Claw (21)
• Runic Invocation (21)
• Flame Rush (21)
• Static Orb (21)

Used unique items:

• Frostbite Shackles
• Snowdrift
• Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros
• Throne of Ambition

[analog wadi]

like it doesnt happen all the time but completely random

[surreal verge]

My initial thoughts would be the static orb on flame rush cast, or RI not actually refund your mana. Do you notice what happens when your mana dips or what happens before it dips?

[analog wadi]

ill have to pay closer attention but im usually casting frostclaw RI and flame ward in battle

flame rush doesnt always deplete my mana so

but neither does the former

[surreal verge]

Yeah sadly we can only figure out by checking each step and cast at this point

[analog wadi]

thanks for the input. will do

[warm yew]

Aye - Flame Rush into Static Orb is about a 70 mana-per-cast combo. Flame Ward is no slouch, either.

[surreal verge]

He does have mana cost cuts in static orb

[analog wadi]

yea but the point is i cast flame rush into battle and to get from here to there and the others while im in battle

i usually dont lose all my mana

like all of it

in a single cast

i got 100 mana

i dont have that much cooldown recovery

[surreal verge]

Procs mostly ignore cdr.

Eg:static orb's proc from flame rush as an example

Orb on cooldown? It might not care!

[warm yew]

Yeah, I'm not seeing anything that would be burning 100 mana that fast - I know Proc for Frost Claw (when you're hit) can do a fair chunk if you were down a bunch.

But just rushing in, then doing Flame Ward and Frost Claw to build up RI, you should be fine.

[analog wadi]

yea its alright

but should i report it once i figure out exactly whats doing it?

[warm yew]

Yes - especially if you can get to consistently reproducing the issue.

Can you ever make this happen against a dummy in Champion's Gate? If not, it might be you getting hit a bunch and Frost Claws going off back-to-back

[analog wadi]

you mean the retaliate? that uses mana doesnt it

i bet thats it

[warm yew]

It does

[analog wadi]

i guess i get lucky sometimes lol

[haughty arrow]

i dont really get "nearest allied target". im using it on wolves and i have to aim at one specific wolf to buff it. which isnt the nearest necessarily

am i wrong or is it the description?

[warm yew]

It's really 'nearest to the target location' - If you put your mouse cursor up-and-left of your pack of wolves, the top-left wolf will receive the heal/buffs.

[spice sandal]

Does grimoire of necrotic elixirs work for all spells? The wording is confusing. It says it gives +X necrotic damage to melee attacks and spells… so does that mean it works only for melee spells? Is a melee spell even a thing? Or does it mean melee attacks and all spells?

[haughty arrow]

aha, so aiming in a line on or "ahead" of my minions does the job!

[haughty arrow]

thx

[native sail]

It means melee attacks and all spells

[spice sandal]

Thank you!

[haughty arrow]

damn, just got this along with my first idol slots. best life charm i got so far 😄

[dull niche]

I can't understand this, i have +1 maximum wolf, and +1 maximum companions, so that means + 2 wolfs, but i receive only +1, or i understood incorrectly?

[native sail]

You're only getting +1 max companion, your max wolves is not the same thing. You naturally have a max of 2 wolves and 2 companions total, even if you have a max of 3 wolves but still only max 2 companions you cannot go over your max companions.

[dull niche]

So, if i will get +1 max companions by other way, i will have yet one wolf?

Oh, no, it is added just one

Understand

Thank you

[native sail]

If you get another max companion you'll be able to summon another wolf if you have enough wolves. There's a trick to this really. Gimme one mo.

Take this node or get the unique amulet called The Claw (or The Fang)

[dull niche]

Oh yes, i have them both

So i just need more companions limit, thank you

[gleaming harness]

I have 45 rune of ascendance u think it's worth it to get silver rings and gamble for red ring of altaria? or not happening

it's extremely rare

and silver ring can evolve into it

just not sure if it's gonna be dumb idea and if i should save the ascendance for something else

[native sail]

Rune of ascendance doesn't care about specific base type, just "is it a ring?"

[desert tree]

Red Ring is extremely rare, I mean you can try and be lucky

[gleaming harness]

ah, if that is the case is red ring even possible with rune of ascendance

[native sail]

It is. It's just rare.

That's the rarest unique item in the game.

[desert tree]

0.17% chance

[gleaming harness]

ah no wonder i have been trying to get it to no avail

[desert tree]

With RoA

[gleaming harness]

oh boy yea 0.17% isn't encouraging rip

but i mean honestly at this point I am just saving rune of ascendance for nothing

might as well yolo it

[desert tree]

I mean... You could get it on the first try

[gleaming harness]

i love the way you think

u always 1 gamba away from becoming a billionaire

[hallow galleon]

Hey there. For Desert Waystation quest, is the Use the Artificial Waypoint broken? I've used it like 4 times now and it won't check the box on the quest.

I even finished the final bosses at The Immortal Citadel which is where the wiki says this quest leads. Went back to the Articial Waypoint on the map and it still remains unchecked. 🤔

[gleaming harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtt93tZu07Q&ab_channel=Terek minute 49 he does the quest , see if there is any difference and if it's the same then a bug

[hallow galleon]

That looks identical to what I am experiencing except I only have one main quest open on my right hand side bar with one item, "use the Artificial Waypoint" remains unchecked. So I guess I have to move onto some different quest then eh?

[gleaming harness]

i think those on the right are just quests he didn't turn in yet because he is speed running to save time

but yea I would report it as a bug if it's not allowing you to continue with the quest and see if the support can help u

and if u have spare time I would say continue and disregard the quest and see if u go to next area with the video and if that will progress the quest

worth giving it a try if it's your only option currently

[hallow galleon]

There's certainly enough other quest content to keep us busy lol. I'm happy with that. I reported the bug. 🙂

[hallow galleon]

Aww man, sadly my Quest dialogue on the right is borked now. It doesn't update at all for quests anymore. 😭

[gleaming harness]

ah damn that sucks

[hallow galleon]

Veryifying files now but I'm honestly not sure about continuing on. I'm at level 45, just about half way point. I can't imagine playing this without a working quest guide. .....should I start over.....hmmmm. Le sigh.

[gleaming harness]

i would say wait for customer support, starting over and triggering the bug again would be even worse

[hallow galleon]

Good point.

[arctic arch]

ascend runes are by item type (1h sword) not by slot (any main hand item) right? a 1h sword will make a unique 1h sword, not a 1h axe or a 2h sword?

Also, what should we do when one of us dies in HC, in terms of the story? Are there ways to skip things or should I just fast track my partner through the quest line?

[brave path]

ascend runes go by type, 1h sword to 1h unique sword

as far as HC goes, you would need to speed them through the story again...or die also and both of you go to the "normal" server (since death doesnt = delete for HC here)

[arctic arch]

ok, yeah I understood the latter, we want to keep playign HC, just was wondering if there was a way to skip somehow

[brave path]

yah nope sry =/ just gotta redo it sadly

[arctic arch]

do Skeleton Mages count as "skeletons" for the other skill "Summon Skeletons" nodes that say "Skeletons get more damage"?

oh the alt text says no

[arctic arch]

is there a way to form a loot filter for "any uncommon affix" straightforwardly?

[toxic echo]

Would have to make a rule where you specifically pick out each affix manually. Affixes are not really ranked like that in the filter

[quartz blaze]

Hide all affixes, then show only valuable ones. Or just SHOW all valuable ones

[arctic arch]

right but that erquires me to list them out individually which I don'tw ant to do

[quartz blaze]

which is just All class affixes, and hybrid health, all resistances, bow crit chance, and I think 1 other I cant remember

its just class affixes + 4 others

Oh, it's Armor + Reduced bonus dmg taken from crits

[arctic arch]

will this work to show any item with a pile of affixes, or do I have to check every box (because right now it's None)

[west abyss]

Anyone know how to change chat language region? and to put subtitles on cinematics?

[arctic arch]

if I have a weapon that adds +melee physical damage, and then I'm turning my melee attack into void, is that melee phys converted?

[gleaming harness]

login screen there is chat language, not sure about subtitles

[gleaming harness]

you can hover over your skills and see what it scales with

[gleaming harness]

u can test the filter by lowering requirement and then dropping an item with those requirement and see if the loot filter works

[arctic arch]

that doesn't answer my question about the damage type conversion -- does that extra damage get converted to void? what is "base" damage here? etc.

hovering over the skill doesn't seem to add any insight there

[gleaming harness]

no it no longer benefit from your melee physical damage since it says that physcal tag will be swapped for void

u didn't pick it yet, the tag physical will get replaced by void

if u see the "scaling tags"

someone can correct me if I am wrong but that is what i know

because i had similar experience with druid swipe I turned it from physical to lightning

and it scaled from lightning,melee,etc but not physical any more

[arctic arch]

it will still benefit from physical damage

the question is whether that physical damage will get converted to void, or if it's a lot of void +5 physical

[gleaming harness]

it says the physical tag will be swapped for a void

unless u mean melee

[arctic arch]

yes but if i put a weapon on right now that says "+5 fire melee damage" i get that damage on the attack

even though there's no fire keyword

[gleaming harness]

but that skill won't benefit from it

[arctic arch]

it adds the flat fire damage to the skill yes

[gleaming harness]

which is warpath

interesting

[arctic arch]

can see the dps go up a lot

[gleaming harness]

so no fire tag and it increases warpath damage

if it's void

not sure about that but if that is the case then i learned something new

[somber trench]

Heya, super new. Can someone tell me if I am going though some sort of new charecter part of the game and how far it goes?

[gleaming harness]

i wonder if it's because the fire "melee" damage with the melee part scaling with the skill

[quartz blaze]

What do you mean?

[somber trench]

Sorry im not explaining well. When does the game start to open up a bit might be a better question

[quartz blaze]

You'll get access to your mastery at about lvl 15, and access to the endgame systems (monoliths) about lvl 50, if that answers your question

your character probably gets more interesting about the time you get your mastery

it's not too long into the game

[gleaming harness]

I am interested to see when u hover over ur warpath skill DPS number before and after adding the flat fire melee damage, gonna head to bed but tag me if u post the two pictures because i am confused right now

y'know what screw it , logging in and testing this crap lol

it's on my mind right now

[arctic arch]

all my DPS on my skills went up when I switched from a 20 dmg 2h sword to a 20 damage 2h sword with +10 fire damage at the start of the game haha

[gleaming harness]

fire damage or fire melee damage?

[arctic arch]

fire melee damage

[gleaming harness]

alright

[quartz blaze]

Added damage applies to every ability

intended

Adaptive damage is where the ability's type matters

[arctic arch]

yes, that was called into question above

[gleaming harness]

yea it did increase, prob because the melee tag, gonna check next just pure fire damage

yea it's because of the melee part

not the fire part

[quartz blaze]

example: if you had this equipped. All your melee abilites would get +25 damage to whatever type they are. They would also get 18-25 physical damage too. that means if your ability was physical, it would add 43-50 physical damage, but if your ability was fire, it would be adding 25 fire damage and 18-25 physical damage, meaning your ability is hitting with two different damage types. Increased Damage% is then applied after flat, so the physical would scale the physical part, fire would scale the fire part, and melee would scale both. If that helps make it more sense

[gleaming harness]

okay that makes sense now

[arctic arch]

so in the case of warpath being converted to void, it'd be like your fire example, and it'd be abunch of void +18-25 phys right?

[gleaming harness]

now the thing i am thinking about since the void warpath is "melee" but not "physical" will it still get the same DPS increase as the physical warpath from "+physical melee damage" hmm

[surreal verge]

Yes

[surreal verge]

Yes, if the physical melee damage is flat

[gleaming harness]

ah ty

[surreal verge]

In Le flat increases always apply if it’s the correct skill type (melee,spell,bow,throwing)

[gleaming harness]

god damn arpg's and their depth

[surreal verge]

It ignores damage type

[quartz blaze]

Would it? im actually unsure. The node only affects base dmg, and adding flat phys wouldnt be base would it?

[gleaming harness]

awesome, now i can finally go to bed and sleep in peace

[quartz blaze]

Adaptive would convert, but does flat added?

[surreal verge]

All flats are added as their own

[quartz blaze]

Exactly so that means its not base damage

[arctic arch]

so in the "changes the base damage type to void" here , is the word "base" meaningful here or is that the same thing as just saying it's changing the tag?

like is there a special Conversion step occuring in this case, like in POE, or is it just now a void skill the end

[surreal verge]

It’s changing the tag and whatever it’s initial damage was (it’s default damage is called base damage)

[safe harness]

The base damage is what the skill deals with no weapon, which is like 1-2 damage or something

[quartz blaze]

To my knowledge, yes. Warpath has a base damage of 1 physical and thats what it is changing.

[safe harness]

Yup

[quartz blaze]

Its not changing +Added Melee Physical into +Added Melee Void.

[safe harness]

Typed added damage doesn’t change types, non-typed is just whatever type of damage the skill deals

[quartz blaze]

+Added Melee Damage naturally adds what the ability's type is. So when Warpath's type is changed to void, that means +Added Melee Damage is adding void.

Exactly.

[gleaming harness]

ty for the info, learned something today

[somber trench]

Sometimes I see my mana go to a negative number and turn purple. Can someone tell me what I am looking at?

[surreal verge]

You overspent mana.

[somber trench]

is that bad?

[surreal verge]

LE has a system where as long as you have at least 1 mana, you can cast anything.
But the difference will be turned into negative mana which will force you to regen mana back to 1 or higher before you can cast a skill with a mana cost again

[arctic arch]

I want a loot filter for runes of removal so I can stock up on shard types I want, i.e. I want to detect items with only 1 affix, that is an affix I want. I can filter by rarity here but that leaves blue items with two affixes, is there a way to get just 1?

[faint cape]

Probably, but I don't think it's possible with a single rule. You are probably best off just filtering for your rare affixes at T5, regardless of rarity

If it's an affix you need really badly, still use removals + hopes. Otherwise, shatter if it has too many affixes.

[surreal verge]

Do stuff even drop with just one affix?

[faint cape]

Yeah, you can even find things with a T7 mod and nothing else, kinda funny when it happens

[somber trench]

I'm trying to figure out the forge, and i have shartds, but the forage says you have no shards that match your search criteria? Why am I unable to use any of my shards in the forge?

[arctic arch]

why the hope in this instance?

[faint cape]

So you are less likely to lose all FP before hitting the mod you want (you can still shatter if you do)

[arctic arch]

oh I didn't realize removals reduced FP

[somber trench]

ah i think i have it

[surreal verge]

ANy craft that isn't rune of discovery costs fp

[vocal plank]

My friend is having issues
A. Getting into the game
B. Playing online when he CAN get into the game.

What would be a good idea for him to try to get in because I would like to blast with him

[arctic arch]

do the alternate bone golem types still retaliate with Bone Shatter, or would points in that be wasted if I have switched over

[desert tree]

I don't think they do

Only the Bone Golem does

[arctic arch]

dang i hate that (making a bunch of nodes do nothing)

[surreal verge]

It's like 4 nodes?

Mostly because they don't have bone shatter

[desert tree]

Well I was looking at the tree to make sure I wasn't bullshitting you

I don't find anything saying they can't

So I don't know

Might be worth trying in game

[arctic arch]

4 more nodes than is a necessary design

Yeah it doesn't work, tried it by casting Rip Blood on my frost golem a lot

[surreal verge]

Those are literally off somewhere else and are made specifically for it.
It's like the bone golem only tree

And there's the fire golem only tree and blood golem only tree and cryo golem only tree

[arctic arch]

cryo only has 1 node that doesn't work for all golem types, fire 2, and importantly those are behind the "switch your golem" node... the bone ones are more universal like

[surreal verge]

The splinters one aren't evidently-

[lament stirrup]

what subclass is best for frostmage with cold damage? sorcerer or runemaster?

[toxic echo]

RM is a bit better just because the skills and passive tree are newer/better. but sorc is still fine. difference between like a A- and a B+. more or less comes down to the skills you want to play with more than any power difference

[pallid wave]

runemaster lol

[lament stirrup]

thanks

[pallid wave]

for me it is the elemental advantage

@lament stirrup but i am sure you can make a frost druid if you wanted to that's what i love about the game , you can do what you want and if you play it right it works

[crude jewel]

does this count for squirrels too?

[desert tree]

Yes

Careful it buffs only one squirrel/wolf

[winter tinsel]

Hi, I played the game in November last year and although I liked it a lot, I found the endgame content lacking and repetitive. I remember the monoliths and the arenas, but it got very repetitive. Has there been any modification for these systems, or is there any new endgame content? And for 1.0?

[desert tree]

There is donjons too
But the whole monoliths system have not been touch too much

1.0 plan to add trade that can alter the way you will want to play your monos

But nothing major for the monos/endgame loop yet

[crude jewel]

but its ok ^^

[quartz blaze]

1.0 will have corruption reworked a bit so monoliths feel better and the grind to climb is shorter, the main endgame difference will be trading and CoF. more systems and endgame content is planned after 1.0, we dont know the patch or date but they want to do it "asap" so maybe 1.1 or something

id hold off playing again til 1.0 in feb based on your comment

[winter tinsel]

Thanks for the info. What means CoF? I will search info about trading system and CoF. Any recommended site to learn about those systems?

[quartz blaze]

!trade

[ripe brook]

Our latest plans on Trade, and Factions can be found here: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/trade-development-update-introducing-merchants-guild-and-circle-of-fortune-factions/51994.

[quartz blaze]

CoF is the non-trading faction option, for enhanced loot find and target farming

[winter tinsel]

Thanks!

[acoustic thicket]

Anybody running that famous LB Runemaster on 700+ corruption? Is this gear (dont look at blessings and passives/skills, I'd change them) good enough to transition from a frostbite frostclaw RM? Dont have as much int stacked :v https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/0oN3ND9A

[hexed comet]

how much time i need for story?

[desert tree]

Depend on how fast you go through it

[primal needle]

how long time wise on avg does it take to complete the campaign'? and/or about what character level are you about when you get to end game? Max Level is 99?

[young field]

Hello, I am a new player. Is it worth crafting and moding at the beginning or is that a waste of time and I should save all my crafting/moding items for later?

[desert tree]

For a first play through if you are not to fast I would say 10hours ish

[desert tree]

Anywhere between 4 to 10 hours
I get to the monos (endgame) around lvl 40-50
Max lvl 100

[desert tree]

I would recommend you to start crafting as soon as possible, it's very strong, you xille get plenty of shards as you play.
It will make your early game very smooth

[somber trench]

When does the game start to be a challenge? I am level 17 and it feels like a walk in the park

[primal needle]

oh wow ok, I didn't know was that short....

[desert tree]

Quite late in the game
It's a common feedback, the campaign is to easy

[desert tree]

Campaign is just a big tutorial

And rn it's not complete

[somber trench]

good to know

[desert tree]

There is 3 more chapters to come (not with 1.0)

[primal needle]

gotcha

[young field]

Thanks!

[desert tree]

And the biggest part of the game will be the monoliths of date part

[somber trench]

so there is plenty to do, just get past the campaign?

[desert tree]

Yep

Completing the monos, upgrading your gear, dongeons, arena

[pallid wave]

so after 3 characters offline i just created one online and i am poor xD. will there be online events once the game releases ?

[primal needle]

So I got a few minutes to play. I got to chapter two and now at end of time. That end game? So I’m done with story?

[analog wadi]

talk to gaspar he gives you mastery and sends you back to story

[novel crane]

hi, would like to ask why is my game in chinese? How can i change it

and can't login right now? the button does not function

[native sail]

Should be in your settings somewhere. Uh... not sure why it is in Chinese to begin with though.

[novel crane]

well bruh

there's no third button for settings though

[native sail]

Does hitting escape work for it at all?

[novel crane]

nope

[native sail]

Huh

Try fully restarting the game and Steam maybe?

[novel crane]

😇

ill try it

well its still stucked, ill send a bug report

ty for help

[pallid wave]

guys i saw video saying that leveling rogue was broken i am struggling hard dying multiple times to exiled mages ( my 2 others characters the start of the game was easy as hell , sentinel and mage) was it nerfed ?

or what am i doing wrong

[primal needle]

not sure, so far for me I did a Ranged Rogue and Mage and both died a lot couldn't take a hit or target well.... then I tried Melee Sentinel and haven't died not even come close to it

[pallid wave]

i had like one or two deaths with runemaster but yeah the struggle is real for rogue haha

[sinful laurel]

I've never struggled with rogue in campaig

[south wigeon]

guys, is there a shield throw viable build? just to cruise through normal MoF?

[brave path]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/forge-guard-leveling-guide - leveling forge guard shield throw
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/manifest-armor-forge-guard-guide - end game forge guard shield throw
https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/smite-shield-throw-guide - endgame smite shield throw

[south wigeon]

perfecto 😄

[brave path]

🙂

looks like the first 2 are about using your shield throw on your summons to make them do more damage/aoe

last one is what i would try myself, smite and lightning off throwing shields

[south wigeon]

im gonna try it today when i wake up lol

do u htink without uber gear it will be okk to clear easily normal MoF?

[brave path]

MoF?

[analog wadi]

monos

[native sail]

Monolith of Fate.
And uh... I'd wager probably, that's the goal of every build

[brave path]

oh yah pretty much any build can clear monoliths

especially a maxroll build

[south wigeon]

and i have 4 idols smite with throwing attackcs on my paladin lol - 8,8,6,5 % so I will farm two better ones lol

[brave path]

that is very very nice haha

[south wigeon]

so i can play from get go once unlocked slots lol

[south wigeon]

but some are a chore...

the question is - is this build smoothe or a chore?

[brave path]

i mean it looks fun imo xD...and the hardest part it looks like is the idols which you have haha

looks like this is the only "required" unique too

so not bad

[south wigeon]

which I do not possess , damn it 😉

[native sail]

I'd ignore the Bastion, it's a pretty bad item now

[brave path]

you dont NEED it to go through normal monoliths...but it just makes the build a lot stronger

[south wigeon]

perfecto1

[graceful totem]

How can i respec my passive points

[native sail]

Brain NPC in town

[graceful totem]

Can we trade in this game

Like POE

[native sail]

Not yet, at 1.0 yes but not the same "style"

!trade

[ripe brook]

Oh, someone is interested in trade? I know it's a pretty small topic, but here's a little writeup about our plans: https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/trade-development-update-introducing-merchants-guild-and-circle-of-fortune-factions/51994

[native sail]

Give that a read

[graceful totem]

Thanks

[zealous tusk]

I need advice, so i have 2 armor im choosing, other one is 2LP but low rolls also got +1 to skill im using, the other is 1LP and got better rolls and +3 to skills my using. Which should I use? I mean i wanted to make it legendary.

[graceful totem]

+3

[zealous tusk]

But only 1LP

[graceful totem]

To be honest

i dont know what Legendary Potential means

[zealous tusk]

Oh rip, its the one you create legendary like transfering exalted affix to unique items.

[brave path]

i mean it kind of depends...typically you want the higher LP one, but if you get bad rolls smashed into it, but good rolls on the 1 LP then go for the 1 LP

also kind of depends on what you lose with those last 2 skill levels

does it break your build?

[zealous tusk]

Hmm it does not but having more on + skill gives more dmg

[brave path]

then at that point it is kinda just weighing stat gains vs stat losses...which is more important...and also RNG on making the legendary itself

or

just keep farming for a better 2LP+

[graceful totem]

How can i use legendary potential

do i need to do something on it

[native sail]

https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/section/legendary_items

[graceful totem]

WOW thats broken

[native sail]

Nah, it's pretty balanced

[brave path]

if you are in game you can also hit "G" i think it is and it will bring up the game guide which will give you an explanation to roughly 80-90% of the keywords/mechanics of the game...it is surprisingly helpful 🙂

[native sail]

Every item has individual rarity to LP and each LP is exponentially rarer than the last (2LP is dramatically rarer than 1LP, 3 rarer than 2, you get the idea)

[graceful totem]

let me guess 4 rarier than 3

Thanks for explaining

❤️

[native sail]

yep

4 is insanely rare frankly

I have 3 total items with 4, one of them is useless with 4 and the other two are some of the easiest items to get LP on (and not super useful at all)

Note I have about 1100 hours in game, with probably 900 of those being after LP was introduced

[surreal verge]

Knowing LP rates and the whims of RNGesus? Nahhh not op at all

The stuff you WANT LP on are nigh impossible to get LP on

You want any unique boots with LP? Good luck

[graceful totem]

Where is the best place to level up (ı am level 72)

[surreal verge]

Monoliths

[arctic arch]

is purple a special item type or just the colour of an item that drops a T6+ affix?

[safe harness]

The ladder 🪜

[surreal verge]

It's the color for Exalted, which are items with a T6 or higher affix.

It is it's own rarity

[lament stirrup]

any other types of stash tabs I'm missing?

[pallid wave]

i think you are more than good my stuff is a mess

are there uniques idols ? is ther even rarity for idols ?

[lament stirrup]

i have 1 unique idol called singularity so I'm not sure

[pallid wave]

oh yeah i did get some of those but it was a bit weird

you have to use it as your only idol for it to work

[desert tree]

Iirc there are 3 uniques idols

[pallid wave]

there are two more nice

i just checked too haha

[desert tree]

You have to have only 1 singularity

Not 1 idol only

[pallid wave]

yup you're right

[south wigeon]

hi guys, so for a shielkd throw FG - smite armour or this build where I smack manifest armour with my shield? what s smoother sailing through normal MoF without uniques?

[desert tree]

Trinity of Flame is pretty meh
Throne of Ambition is very good

[desert tree]

MA+Shield Throw

I would even recommend a bleed version if you start from nothing

It's very easy to set-up

[south wigeon]

can you link a bleed verion or maybe offer a few tips pls?

i guess clear speed in MoF isnt like screen wide but still bearable?

[lament stirrup]

i thought of another stash tab folder....one for resistances

[haughty arrow]

what do the dots next to the loot mean?

[desert tree]

Dot before > prefix

Dot after > suffix

[haughty arrow]

oh, so just the number of affixes

(and kind, yea)

[grave willow]

Hello, I haven't played this game in a few. I was wondering if endgame bossing is in the game?

[blazing gorge]

Hi guys, do you know where the game saved my characters ? I need to make a back-up of my saves.

[desert tree]

Do you play online?

[desert tree]

There are some bosses already implemented.
Timeline boss, Orobyss (for uping your corruption), Arena bosses, and dongeon bosses

[blazing gorge]

No, only solo.

[desert tree]

You mean offline?

[blazing gorge]

Yeah, sorry. offline solo.

[blazing gorge]

ok thanks !

[blazing gorge]

Oh you know what ? I've changed my mind and decided to start from a white page when the 1.0 is released: that means start with nothing in my stash and no old char. Just for the fun of playing more ^^

[pallid wave]

is there a way to compare to off hand slot ? for weapons

[low coyote]

No need to delete chars or stash. With launch, our shortly after there will be a kind of seasonal and eternal separation like in other arpg's

[desert tree]

Not really

[pallid wave]

we should add that to the feature resquests xD

[gleaming harness]

is there a way to make exalted items appear in the map overlay? playing fast mobility builds make u miss a lot of exalts

[surreal verge]

No map overlay settings for now.

[gleaming harness]

rip

[desert tree]

They plan to do smth for that problem but not what you ask

[gleaming harness]

happy to know that 😄

[primal needle]

How many Stash tabs can you have? also where can you get loot filters? or they not like poe to be imported?

[dense root]

200

i think the forums or le tools are the best place to get filters if you really want to import one

but also i think you are way better off learning to make your own

building the filter is done in game and is relatively simple once you have an idea of what items you want

it’s not like poe where you need a phd to do it right

there are ten minute youtube videos that will explain the entire system well

[fresh badge]

does anyone know what lvl the chest drops from the boss on stolen lance im lvl 66

im trying to get the chest

[surreal verge]

Wings? Required level, which is 82.
That means it's only droppable in empowered

[native sail]

Boss items ignore level requirement to drop, they manually picked what is empowered only

[latent herald]

I always wondered why town maps are not fully uncovered, why do we have to deal with fog of war there?

[zealous tusk]

Im playing in steam deck, how can I upload my character in planner? Im playing in offline.

[fathom nacelle]

maybe your character is dehydrated from all the demon slaying and is just feeling a bit foggy

[arctic arch]

what does "contains incomplete path" mean in the quest echoes thing? I've read multiple answers to this question and still don't understand

[lament stirrup]

Is there a fire damage blessing?

nvm found it. flames of calamity

[west abyss]

what that weaver's will mean?

[sonic saddle]

alt + ctrl + read tooltip

[west abyss]

thank you ❤️

[arctic arch]

what is suppsoed to happen when 1 person in a party dies in a dungeon? the persno can portal to me but it puts her in a wall and she's stuck. if she takes the waypoint she has to interact with the door to spend a key and it asks to choose a level as if it's a new instance

now after trying the door, the portal route makes it say "you are not a member of the dungeon run" (we never broke party)

managed to advance to another part of the dungeon she could portal into that wasn't putting her in a wall, but she didn't have the light

now we're at the boss door and the run seems to be bricked, can't click the door

[surreal verge]

During quest echoes, sometimes you are given a choice.
Do the other one.

[arctic arch]

ahh got it. Makes sense now

[faint cape]

They are not supposed to be able to rejoin until the dungeon is complete (final boss dead)

[arctic arch]

I see, so it shouldn't let them portal in... and that shouldn't brick the dungeon haha

[faint cape]

Yeah, definitely shouldn't be putting them in walls either lol

[arctic arch]

is it correct to assume you aren't immune to crits even with 100% crit avoidance? because an enemy could have 10% base and get a "guaranteed crit" buff somehow which would put them at 110% base and you would merely reduce it back down to 10%?

[surreal verge]

Crit avoid calculates after all crit increases.

[desert tree]

1. Mobs don't get base crit, only increase crit
2. If you have 100% crit avoid you are immune to crit
   Crit avoid work this way
   Are you hit? Yes > Is it a crit? Yes > Do I avoid?

[surreal verge]

SO even with 500% crit chance, 100% crit avvoid cuts it to 0.

(This also works in reverse. If you have 100% crit and mobs somehow get crit avoid your crit is now not 100% against them)

[arctic arch]

ah yes it does indicate it's multiplicative

[surreal verge]

Yeah, 50% crit avoid turns 150% crit chance into 75%

[arctic arch]

Wait that disagrees with Vlad there

[desert tree]

Yep

[arctic arch]

I should have 100% of crits against me downgraded to regular hits, regardless of enemy's crit chance

[surreal verge]

Yes.

[desert tree]

It check if you are being crit and then roll your crit avoid

[arctic arch]

50% crit avoid would still just be 50% crit rate even if they had 200% crit chance

[surreal verge]

Oh yeah, I keep assuming they dont damn cap crit chance

[arctic arch]

They don't cap it (you can see yourself having 120% crit chance with Gambler's Fallacy) , but that doesn't matter because the crit avoid happens after a crit is determined, where crit chance is no longer in the picture

[surreal verge]

What I meant is that to crit avoid, anything above 100% crit chance doesn't matter

[gritty thistle]

sorry for asking again if there is a post about it in advance! I have some major fps drops after changing from 3060 to amd 7900xt . Had a stable 60fps with 3060 but with the other is jumping from 170 to 5 around the mono's all the time.... Any advice how to fix this?

[analog wadi]

i hear amd graphics cards are a piece of work

their processors though are prime

[gritty thistle]

other games show improvement by 30% but on LE its downhill hard

[analog wadi]

well there is some memory leaks

in LE

they will be fixed in time

[gritty thistle]

i hope so cause daddy needs his addiction

[analog wadi]

i feel ya brotha

[desert tree]

@low coyote I don't want to spam in dev chat
I am pretty sure there is no way you can infinitely scale AS/CS

They are being very careful with that kind of stuff

[low coyote]

Yeah, I failed some basic reading comprehension

Thinking only move speed was capped

[thin elk]

I have a question, my Fireball has a skillnode that say: 50% Fire to Lightning and if i have the gloves with the Same Text, does it result in 100% Lightning or 75% (50 of remaining 50)? Thanks a lot

[zealous tusk]

What is the best skill to use for leveling necro?

[surreal verge]

100%.

[thin elk]

Thanks 😊

[fringe minnow]

any one else struggle with continuous lose connection to server? Good internet connection, no distruptions from what we can tell. A reconnect would be nicer than a flat out kick you out the party

[austere echo]

new to the game wondering what the best class for a "speed" build would be. looking for something that can go as fast as possible while still being able to clear content just zooming at the end game.

i saw on some forums that no matter what youll have to sacrifice some speed regardless for monoliths to pick up some extra needed damage just not sure if like leaderboards are the best thing to go off seeing ass lich seems to dominate the top slots but i assume theres a big diff in time spent playing, getting lucky with gear upgrades, etc

[fringe minnow]

https://maxroll.gg/last-epoch/build-guides/swipe-werebear-druid-guide
I am enjoying this one not sure its a speed build.

[austere echo]

also another thing i was wondering about is once you complete the campaign on 1 character do you have to complete it on all others?

[native sail]

Just a heads up, that leaderboard is arena only (which isn't the primary endgame) and that build is also bugged out of its mind. It is one of the most broken things in the history of the game because of unintended interactions.

[austere echo]

ic ive been having a hard time finding alot of up to date info too tbh

been on maxroll mostly but just found lastepochtools

[native sail]

Yes and no. You don't need to complete the campaign on any character and you can skip portions on alt characters if you know how, however there is a "reward" for completing the current last chapter and there is not and never will be a full campaign skip.

[fringe minnow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF47Ld37IaA&ab_channel=Binashole
not sure if this is something that works for speed?

[austere echo]

is there a theorycrafting text chat im just not seeing i can see the vc just not a text variant?

[native sail]

I'm pretty sure voice channels actually have text chats inherently now

You just need to be in the channel to see it iirc, it's like an extra button in the corner of the channel screen

[desert tree]

You are welcome to do it here or in the class specific channel too

[native sail]

Yeah that as well

I usually do mine in #💬┃general tbqh

There has been many a shitpost spawned in there

[desert tree]

And for a speed build lightning bug is pretty zoomy, Hydra RM, or smth the the Wrongwarp wand (it's pretty rare so not very new player friendly)

[ancient wedge]

where the hell can i farm this "
Jungle Queen's Chaps of Holding" besides fall of the empire coz its not working xD

[surreal verge]

Fall of empire is because that monolith has "unique or set Belt" nodes.

Otherwise, pray to RNG

(Also do it in empowered if possible)

[ancient wedge]

ive found 1 but no LP im doing 170 corruption atm

and i didnt find it i crafted it xD

[surreal verge]

That's a luck issue sadly

[ancient wedge]

could u borrow me some?

🙏

[surreal verge]

Good luck-

[ancient wedge]

❤️

[humble steeple]

Guys, are there any tips for using the Twisted Heart of Uhkeiros? Do I need a lot of health and health recovery through regen or leeching to get a large ward? Cause I lose health, but get a ridiculous 1000-1500 ward. I used leech nodes in passive tree and leech blessing, but still suck.
Talking about my fire sorc. There is no problem on my ice sorc\RM.

[desert tree]

You probably want more leech, more dmg (too leech more) and more cast speed

[silver carbon]

Hey people ! I'm trying to decide what to play at launch. So many possible builds !
I was thinking of going Werebear build but i'm trying other classes atm. Don't have enough time to try everything 🙂

What are your thoughts about different werebear builds? How do they compare? Are you enjoying these builds?

[analog wadi]

i like the cold DoT werebear personally but my Lightning Swipe werebear is doing better

[iron valley]

does the freeze rate multiplier also work with my ice minions or just my personal characters attacks?

[surreal verge]

Just you, since it does not say "minion"

[iron valley]

so things that work with minions will specifically say "minion" in the text?

[surreal verge]

Yes

[iron valley]

appreciate it.

[surreal verge]

A semi-helpful example

[hearty cypress]

Hello, I would like to ask about one issue.... Namely, I'm talking about these language channels or regional channels (whatever you call it) - a few months ago I got the answer that in the near future - soon the end of the year and then the new release of LE - and here still silence - who should I contact about this? We are creating a server discord PL and it was supposed to be official but still silence about these channels - please dm or information to whom I can contact

[icy drift]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[old terrace]

does dual wielding apply to just having something in both hands or do they have to be swords or something

like a bow and quiver counts or no?

[surreal verge]

Dual-wielding combinations depends on the class

[surreal verge]

No

QUivers in this game are not considered to be a weapon.

[old terrace]

ok

[arctic arch]

I had this bug yesterday where after teleporting and then moving immediately, I would get rubber banded back a few steps

Is this a known desync due to item properties (maybe cast speed) applying differently on client vs server? I didn’t have time to troubleshoot much and it went away when I relogged

I can try to repro if this is a new thing nobody’s run into before

[shadow bronze]

Why does it seem like detonating arrow goes through enemies without attacking sometimes? As if it does nothing

[desert tree]

Bug

[wide sentinel]

cause MM is weird

[arctic arch]

what is the magnitude of the decrease of block mitigation based on enemy level? is there a way to see it?

[cloud kite]

Hi, i im new to Last Epoch an have a question about the Monolith i have done the 3 on top but did not get the empowered, i still have 2 quest marks on two timlines quests say i have to discover more timelines. Do i have to do those timelines again with the timeline boss ?

[fringe birch]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/block
select "By Area Level" tab.
use slider at bottom of the page to set the block effectiveness.

[arctic arch]

oh that's not too bad

[sinful laurel]

Go back to the center island, blue thing should light up

[arctic arch]

Oh, so the in game block effectiveness % is taking the current zone level into account already, cool

[cloud kite]

ohh i see thx

[arctic arch]

does the skill tree always in 100% of cases say "(multiplicative with all other factors)" when that is true, or is it known to not be absolutely consistent there?

[desert tree]

I don't really understand your question, but if it says "More Dmg" it's multiplicative. If it says "Increase Dmg" it's additive with other sources of Increase Dmg.

[marble marsh]

Is clearing a skill from the action bar bugged? I'm unable to do so.

[arctic arch]

Both of these say "more damage", but only one of them clarifies "(multiplicative...)" -- are you saying that "more" always means the "multiplicative..." clarification and they are just not clarifying everywhere?

[arctic arch]

Yeah I can't either, seems to only let you replace it with something else. It'll soon never be a thought again once you get more...

[marble marsh]

Cool, thanks for the response. I found a bug report on the forum but it was from March so I though it might've been fixed.

[desert tree]

More always means multiplicative

[arctic arch]

Ok sweet, thanks

[arctic arch]

are bosses considered rare enemies for purposes of "rare enemies do more damage" monolith nodes?

[sinful laurel]

No

[arctic arch]

Hmm, running into "incomplete paths" on timelines I did not get any choices in. Are there more subtle things I can do differently?

[arctic arch]

Even "Fall of the outcast" which I've chosen both paths for (played through twice, chose different at the end) still has "incomplete paths", what does that mean?

is that because of empowered versions in the future? (looking at guide)

[round mountain]

Any CM’s around that I can ask about getting the streamer tag? 🙂

[toxic echo]

The whole lot of them are on vacation for a few more days at least(after new years). And its the weekend.

[round mountain]

Yep fair call! They’re all getting a well deserved break

[ancient wedge]

200 echos later and still havent found 1

[minor vigil]

it's one of the rarest uniques in the game

[lament stirrup]

monoliths that reward arena key only give keys to the arena? not dungeons?

[brave path]

yes

[lament stirrup]

what's the blue bar around the blessing icon? the roll or xp?

[safe harness]

range of the roll

[arctic arch]

what is going on when enemies or my summons seem to randomly flash green?

[mortal pollen]

ayo im looking at buying epoch but had a question as i realyl enjoyed diablo 3 is therea simmilar system to the rift farming in epoch ? cause i really enjoyed the mindless gridning thanks in advance 🙂

[dense root]

monoliths are somewhat comparable

and that’s the primary endgame system

it’s probably a bit less mindless than rifts but at its core it’s just running through maps killing enemies on your way to an objective

[rain wedge]

Does anyone know if the artor's loyalty passive affect the primal serpent spawned by serpent strike?

[desert tree]

Primal Serpentn is not a companion so no

[iron valley]

i have a relic that has lightning resist but when i try to put lightning resist on a new relic, it says lightning resist cant go on relics.

[safe harness]

your item has 0 forging potential

[unreal geyser]

servers having issues for anyone currently?

[surreal verge]

It also can't add another other suffix, looks like you have no slots.

[safe harness]

lightning res is already on the item

[surreal verge]

Left is the example picture and right is an attempt on another item. (The item claims to have physical res and freeze rate, which aren't on the left item)

[safe harness]

ah yeah

[iron valley]

so the only way to add the lightning resist is to play slot machines and hope that the glyph of chaos grants me the suffix i want?

[safe harness]

or it has an open slot

[surreal verge]

Well, what's the item you wanted to craft on?

Because from what the screenshot shows, you do not have a suffix slot to craft on.

[iron valley]

correct, just understanding more how crafting works / doesnt work.

[surreal verge]

Ah

[iron valley]

on a good note only 2 took rolls

[surreal verge]

Then yea, glyph of chaos

[sudden wedge]

any1 else notice the language here? "wraiths have more strike chance" does this refer to chance to hit? or is it a typo that should say critical strike chance?

[surreal verge]

Additional should be removed technically.
This gives them FLAT crit chance, fyi.

[sudden wedge]

they should add the word "critical" so theres no confusion

[native sail]

seems like a typo

[surreal verge]

Oh I missed critical is missing
#tooltip-hunt

[barren belfry]

I only have stereo sound from the game, is this bug or it is really only stereo?

[sudden wedge]

yeah i think we all fill that in in our heads because we have read crit strike so many times

[native sail]

Yup. I've literally played a wraith build extensively and never noticed it was missing lol

[sudden wedge]

is there a place in discord to offer suggestions as well as bugs? i occasionally come acrros redundancies that they may want to look at for future patches

[native sail]

#1123698164503949392

[sudden wedge]

thanks. lol im blind

[native sail]

Evidently we all are sometimes

[low coyote]

Is there a list of things that benefit from snapshot mechanics?

[desert tree]

Not that I know of, but it's not intended and hopefully will get fixed soon. So I would not plan to use it

[safe harness]

Some snapshots are intended

Like spells snapshot damage from whatever buffs you currently have when you cast them

So there are things like getting maelstrom stacks while in bear form will get the +1 spell damage per strength even if you transform back to human form

[low coyote]

I get that warpath doesn't snapshot. I'm wondering if there are other channeled or aura abilities that do.

[safe harness]

It’s just spells with duration as far as I know

There is minion snapshotting that is unintended

[low coyote]

It makes sense that warpath doesn't, as you can move as you channel, but some skills have a definite end like aura of decay or dread shade

Yeah I'm not interested in minion snapshot

Aura of decay would be great to snapshot with the relic that reduces poison damage on potion use

[safe harness]

The only way you can really take advantage of snapshots is if you have a temporary buff and then do something that has a duration

[low coyote]

But since aura is a toggle then I expect it doesn't snapshot

[safe harness]

I think that skill also has major issues

You take way too much self damage or you deal very little damage to enemies

[low coyote]

Yeah, hence the relic

And maybe the Ruby set