👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[warped heron]

Same it's now permanently big 😂 it's actually kinda helpful

[pastel cargo]

I see. Thank you both for answering. I will check yolo mouse.

[warped heron]

Yolomouse didn't seem to work well anymore, it toggled on/off when hovering enemies/targets

[inner quest]

that just means you need to set the cursor for those things, LE uses more than one cursor and yolomouse only replaces one at a time

[lusty pagoda]

Does the blessing that gives increased Amulet drop rates affect the drop rate of Omnis and Nhilis etc?

[night raven]

does the kuzan helmet makes it so shadow cascade piercing dagger become burning daggers?or do they stay piercing dagger but simply doing fire damage?

[languid zenith]

It gives you a buff when you throw a burning dagger I believe, it doesn't convert anything into burning daggers

[forest bluff]

by "critical strike deals more damage", it means that the amount is added to critical strike multiplier or multiplied with critical strike multiplier?

[night raven]

if i'm using dancing strikes,does it count as if i'm moving?

[flint bloom]

#suggestions

[pine chasm]

This wording is almost always used in long descriptions for added critical strike multiplier, in just the normal meaning of the words rather than the technical "more" modifier. Check the actual stat line to be sure, though, it should be clearer there.

[plush remnant]

Does the node "Voidfused Projectiles" in Void Cleave get converted to Fire with the node Hellish Chasm?

[keen walrus]

This has prolbably been asked before but will there be a way like prophecies to farm rune of redemption/havoc?

[crude plover]

They're changing the prophecy system

So the answer is technically no, but we don't know what they're changing it to

[keen walrus]

Okii thanks

[night quartz]

#❔┃ask-the-community message
had to alt-F4 the game in order to solve it.

[placid plinth]

no, always void

[placid plinth]

it saves logs from the previous session when you start up the game. You can press [F8] in character select and submit it from there.

[timid fjord]

Shield bash has both width and length aoe scaling in its tree, does the increased aoe with aoe skills affix apply to both or just one of those?

[placid plinth]

both

[low olive]

Are there going to be any balance changes prior to next season for the community to get input on?

[placid plinth]

We typically haven't done mid season balance changes in the past but I can't say for sure one way or the other.

[low olive]

Just curious if there would be a shift to allow this. I feel like community input in balance might not be a bad thing. The balance was astromically out of scale compared to any other previous season. Hoping this isn't a continual thing of just waiting to see the 10,000x dps flavor of the month build that happens each season.

There are a lot of fun older archetypes that got obliterated for various reasons and now they wouldn't be nearly as bad. Would be nice to revisit them instead of them gathering dust for eternity.

[placid plinth]

could be, drop it in #suggestions if you want to maybe see it

[harsh sky]

what does the team generally feels about uber being oneshot?

[placid plinth]

I can't speak for everyone but given the number of possible combinations, I'm not too surprised someone found a way to do it.

[shadow swift]

in the chthonic fissure tree - there's the Forbidden Chasm node that grants acid skin on the initial fissure hit. THe acid bane node gives additional crit strike chance on increased poison damage on mobs with acid skin.

with both specced, it doesn't apply both at once correct? It applies acid skin first, then you get the acid bane bonus on subsequent hits?

[crisp shell]

What are the stats on the "sweeping melee attack" Manifest Armor uses when struck by a thrown shield? It doesn't have a skill card like Charge and Whirlwind Strike. Relatedly, does taking the node that unlocks that attack (Manifest Inspiration) increase the priority for the ricochet to hit MA or is it random?

[crude plover]

It's just rive iirc

[crisp shell]

The third hit, I'm guessing, since that's the 360

Would explain why it doesn't scale with area. Normally it inherits the area tag from the base skill but MA just hijacks the final strike directly

[pine chasm]

The Acidbane node just gives you bonus crit chance against enemies cursed by acid skin, so as soon as you curse the enemy with acid skin, you get acid skin's baseline +20% as well as Acidbane's bonus crit chance (both added to your final crit chance like crit vuln) to all your hits until acid skin wears off.

[heavy quest]

A suggestion I know but.. how about some level based restriction for talking in global? These bots are crazy.

[crude plover]

Would barely make a difference (you can level bots pretty easily) and would negatively impact the new player experience (not being able to ask questions). If you'd like to see it be implemented, please post it in the #suggestions channel

[heavy quest]

Well, not a suggestion then.. any plans to handle it?

[crude plover]

yes

[kindred night]

hello, quick question: does the frenzied flame node in flame reave ("frenzy gives [+8 per point] flat melee damage to flame reave") scale with frenzy effect?

[pine chasm]

According to recent patch notes, yes

[kindred night]

thank you, very cool 👍

also another question about attack speed:
how do i know how many times im attacking per second with a skill? i've had people tell me 1. it's what your stat sheet says (i.e. melee attack speed 4 = you attack 4 times per second with any melee skill), i've also had people tell me you grab the "base speed" on a skill in letools (for example letools says mana strike has 1.692 casts per second at base) and multiply it by your increased attack speed...
obviously those are contradictory. what's the real answer?

[lusty pagoda]

Shadow Cascade has both Throwing Attack and Melee tags. Does the throwing portion only effect the dancing daggers damage or does it effect the spining blade part also?

(In short is +30% melee physical and +30% throwing physical the same for this skill)

[pine chasm]

Things that apply based on the tags of the skill apply to the whole skill (e.g., +1 to melee skills or -3 mana cost for throwing skills).
Things that affect the damage of the skill apply only to the parts specified (e.g., 30% increased melee physical is only going to apply to the portion that is both melee and physical - it won't apply to the throwing part or any non-physical portion of the melee part).

[crude plover]

You take your sheet attack speed (times per second) and multiply it with the skills base speed

The sheet speed assumes a base speed of 1 afaik

So it's basically the same as the skills base times increased

[lusty pagoda]

how can i tell what's what specifically? it's not exavtly called out

[kindred night]

thank you. if i don't have access to the character sheet (spreadsheeting stuff), basically the full formula would be (base skill speed) x (increased speed) x (weapon base attack rate)?
does the base attack rate only take your main hand into account, or the average of both weapons?

[crude plover]

Daggers from dagger dance are throwing

Shadow cascade itself is melee

[pine chasm]

It averages both weapons while dual wielding into one "more" multiplier, which only applies for melee skills (and of course, skills could have their own "more" speed multis).

[crude plover]

Yep

[pine chasm]

It usually explains in the long description of the skill, and LE Tools and similar tools have tags on the individual skill components to tell you which parts are throwing vs. melee vs. spell vs. none (and very rarely skills can be more than one which will let them scale with both, like shadow daggers which is both throwing and melee).

[lusty pagoda]

okay so like flat damage only applies to one but speed applies to both parts?

[pine chasm]

Only melee attack speed will matter, since you don't actually use the throwing part... so that is another nuance that I probably should have clarified. You also only count as having directly used a melee attack.
(Unless you remove the melee attack, then I suppose only throwing speed matters at that point)

[lusty pagoda]

Like I don't see how the Throwing attack speed would work but the Shadow Cascade skill has the throwing tag when you're speced into dancing daggers

So is it a bug then? The speed definitely increases

[crude plover]

By default shadow cascade is a melee attack, throwing attack speed shouldn't affect it even if you spec dagger dance

If you remove the melee component it becomes a throwing skill

So throwing attack speed should then affect it

[pine chasm]

Yeah, that would be a bug if throwing attack speed scales shadow cascade's use speed, unless you've removed the melee component with Porcupine's Wrath so that it's only a throwing attack.

[crude plover]

The throwing tag it gains when you first spec dagger dance is basically there to indicate that a component of the skill you're using scales with throwing stats (the daggers) and it allows for it to get stuff like levels from + levels to throwing skills. But shadow cascade itself remains melee and won't scale any different than before. Until you take porcupines wrath at which point shadow cascade itself becomes a throwing skill and starts scaling with stuff like throwing attack speed

[lusty pagoda]

No I haven't removed it. Maybe it's placebo and just feels faster.

Okay so I need to replace my ring that has +$ throwing attack speed lol

[rigid elk]

how long does it take to get an email back from EHG support?

[crude plover]

Usually within a few business days depending on the current queue

[rigid elk]

okay

[blissful tapir]

Question on Executioner's Tithe: does the phrase "50% of added melee damage on equipped weapons applied as added spell damage for Chaos Bolts" apply to just the "+ Necrotic Melee Damage" or does it also include the "Increased Necrotic Melee Damage?" I'm trying to determine if the roll for Increased Necrotic Melee damage matters for my Flay Lich build which uses Necrotic Spell Damage.

[crude plover]

Increased != added

added means specifically flat

[blissful tapir]

Gotcha, so I shouldn't care about that roll for increased. Thanks! Saved me a million gold lol

[crude plover]

np!

[feral robin]

Hey guys. Will we in the future get a complete rework of how enemies move. So it doesnt look so clunky.
And a camapign reowrk of the first 2 acts atleast, sonthe narrative is getting much better?
Actually the firs 8 acts woukd be nice, but first 2 would be a great start😱

[crude plover]

They haven't announced reworks to those things but they have been improving and reworking past content as times goes on. If you'd like to provide feedback or suggestions please do so in the #feedback and #suggestions channels, since nothing gets logged for consideration in this one.

[covert lark]

Hello, my account was permanently banned.
I already sent an email but got no response.

Account Email: [e-mail]
Character Name: Yusseun

Could you please check my case?

[crude plover]

Asking regarding suppport tickets in this channel does no good. The developer who reads this channel has nothing to do with support. It usually takes a few bussiness days to get a response (it was just a weekend). If you didn't get an automated reponse saying your ticket was sent then I'd re-send a ticket, if you did then your ticket was recieved and all that's left to do is wait.

[covert lark]

Where can I inquire about tickets?
I only sent an email. Is there a place to ask on Discord?

[crude plover]

There is not no

[forest bluff]

in the inhertiance of the erased amulet, does the minion receive the stats such as penetration?

[pine dome]

Yes

[crimson depot]

A technical question for rogue, If a shadow drops an umbral blade, and I have 100% increased damage to skills used by shadows, when I recall the umbral blade, does it still keep the shadow damage modifier?

[placid plinth]

I'd have to double check to be sure but I think no as I'm pretty sure that the recall damage is set by you in that case

[crimson depot]

When a Shadow uses Umbral Blades, the server generates a specific instance of the "Blade" entity on the ground. This entity is tagged with a SourceID—in this case, the Shadow.

    Snapshotting: At the moment of creation, the game checks all applicable modifiers. The "Increased damage with skills used by Shadows" is applied to the base damage of that specific blade instance.

    The Lifetime: That blade keeps its "Shadow-origin" tag for its entire 6-second duration.```

I found this and I was wondering if is correct.

[placid plinth]

sounds reasonable, I'll see if I can tell quickly

[crimson depot]

think is, I added 2 rings Penumbra rings, that add 200% dmg for skills used by shadows, but I didn;t see a difference. Maybe need to test more

[placid plinth]

so after a quick look, that's not how it's happening but it looks like that is the result we should end up with

[crimson depot]

So the added damage is not snapshotted?

[placid plinth]

I thought we were talking about a source of increased damage.

The thing doing the casting of the recall is the blade in the ground itself. This means that whatever stats it had when it went into the ground are the stats it has when it casts the recall.

[crimson depot]

hmm, I should see higher numbers when adding 200% dmg though, and I don't

[placid plinth]

If you've found a bug, please use [F8] in game to report it so we can investigate it.

[crimson depot]

I have no idea if its a bug, my shadows are the one dropping the blades but I am the one recalling. So the extra damage might not be added because its my character recalling, not the shadows.

[placid plinth]

ok yea I was right the first time, just didn't look deep enough, it shouldn't and sounds like it doesn't work

[crimson depot]

Can't trust what you read in the internet 🙂

[fading knot]

do drop-rate blessings affect boss loot tables?

[pine chasm]

No

[elder thicket]

Do the devs still need video about void warpath still reseting while recovering mana?

[burnt rivet]

Is it possible to restore a deleted online char if I put in a request?

[uncut sky]

Does this also mean that the 300% more damage that shadows get for umbral blades only applies to the throw from the shadows, and not the recall?

[fading knot]

do omen windows have higher rewards the farther you are from the middle, like orobyss? I seem to get way more experience at the circle edge i.e.

[crude plover]

no

[fading knot]

ok thank you

[stable lotus]

Hello! is there a way to appeal to a perma ban? i got perma banned out of nowhere and i would like answers T.T

[crude plover]

!support

[fiery lily]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[crude plover]

Here's the ticket form: https://support.lastepoch.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=4416937240347

[thorny solstice]

Hi I'm having trouble lumching the game it never opens

Okay never mind just had to keep opening and closing the game 🙂

[coral fog]

Hello!
I’m playing a Blade Dancer build using Dancing Strikes.
As I understand it, the attack deals instant hit damage (which we see in the tooltip), and also applies bleed (damage over time).

Where and how can I see how much damage over time I’m actually dealing?
I can’t seem to find it, please help!
Since I’m still early in my progression, I’m trying different gear and want to understand, based on damage numbers, which items are better.

[crude plover]

The tooltip takes ailments into account, it's not the most accurate at them though

[native fern]

Wolves get attunement tag from their attunement scaling node.
Sabertooth doesn't get attunement tag from it's attunement scaling node.

The wording of the nodes are a bit different. Is it intentional that the sabertooth doesn't get the tag and thus can't abuse Xylem's +4 to attunement skills?

[coral fog]

Where can I see this enemy tooltip? If I press the alt key, I can't see the damage dot either.

[crude plover]

It's integrated into your skills estimated dps

There's no way of getting the damage a skill deals with ailments specifically, you'll have to go hit the dummies or do napkin math for that

[oak plaza]

Hi, is there a way to recover a deleted online character ?

[crude plover]

Likely no, but you can contact support and try.

!support

[fiery lily]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[faint terrace]

is there any way to upgrade to a higher tier support pack and just pay the difference yet?

[eternal galleon]

Would the Natural Wrath large unique idol bypass cooldown nodes in the earthquake tree? (Staggering Force, Seismic Tide)

Edit: same question for the Avalanche node 'Crater'

[fading knot]

are there any confirmed bugs with the Summon Skeleton -> Individual Operator node? Doesn't seem to scale like it says it does

[fleet galleon]

If you think there's a bug you should report it

[fading knot]

well of course, I'd just like to know if a bug is recognized by others (devs or players)

[pine chasm]

Yes to both

[sturdy ridge]

Do we have any new info that Season 5 is slated for this year?

[crude plover]

The roadmap

[sturdy ridge]

Roadmap says nothing about the year , date , etc

[crude plover]

Hmm you're right. I'm pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere, I'll see if I can find it

[fallen hatch]

Three of my friends from our discord got permabanned in the game within 3 or 4 last days. None of them was affiliated with any RMT or the likes of it. What the hell is your banning policy? Do you have so many players that servers can't hold them all so you started banning random innocent people? What kind of a behavior do you represent? They already sent the tickets but that is beyond unacceptable that your ban system can be tricked so easily. It's a straight up disgrace.

[placid plinth]

I don't think we have an automatic method for this. You could try contacting support to see if they can facilitate it.

[placid plinth]

Ancestral Favour should grant the tag.

also, the reduced health cost of spells affix on xylem is being routed through transplant for some reason which is why that shows up in LETools

[heady latch]

Hey Mike, did a ban wave just happen? I was affected, I just submitted a support ticket, but was just curious if some kind of automated action has taken place in the last day or so?

[naive dome]

5M ago i looged into the game and get perm banned and lost connection what happend

I don't believe

[placid plinth]

I have no information available about any bans. 100% of what I know about it was just posted by the community here.

[lyric wigeon]

Dunno if this was answered before so ill ask anyway.
Do you guys plan to touch the imprint mechanic? or are they going to stay in their current state until next season?

[heady latch]

At least it's not just me. Still very odd. Thanks.

I also tried logging in to the main LE website and got a 500 internal error after the steam auth. I assume maybe that is bc of the account ban too?

[placid plinth]

We don't generally make announcements about upcoming balance changes. I'm not sure what the future of it will be.

[placid plinth]

Yea, forums use the same account.

[naive dome]

@placid plinth i logged 5m ago on account click NPC on market, get lost connected and i got perm banned. Could you check? i got ss and i try make a thicket

[fallen hatch]

then how about you take your time and check it or make someone check it? My friends who spent many hundreds of bucks on this game got permabanned without ANY LEGITIMATE REASON and now they are supposed to wait up to 5 business days for you all to answer?

[placid plinth]

All of the bans were done manually by a person individually reviewing the situation. It is possible that mistakes do get made. You've already taken the appropriate action to appeal the ban.

[placid plinth]

I can't check the status of bans here. The only way to appeal that situation is to submit a support ticket on our support site.

!support

[fiery lily]

Need a hand? Just head on down to https://support.lastepoch.com/ for support articles or to reach out to us directly.

[fallen hatch]

oh so they have to wait up to 5 business days? Is that how you treat your long-time customers? You guys changed so much after Beta, i literally can't see that working in a long shot

[placid plinth]

The estimated reply time is estimated to be longer than expected in case of significant flood. It could possibly take up to 5 business days, yes. We reply to the requests in the order they were received.

[tough seal]

my friends also banned .. what is this?

[placid plinth]

I don't have any information on bans.

careful, I've already let several rule violations on discord go

If you would like to appeal a ban, please open a support ticket on our support site.

!support

[fiery lily]

Need a hand? Just head on down to https://support.lastepoch.com/ for support articles or to reach out to us directly.

[tough seal]

they playing legit all the time like me. dunno why ??

[crude plover]

Guys. This channel is specifically not for support issues. It says it right in the name.

Please stop discussing bans and support in general here.

[tough seal]

i sent 100k times issue for supporter. but 0 help bro

[crude plover]

Also even if it wasn't explicitly stated that the channel isn't for support issues (which is stated), this is like complaining to your cashier about prices going up in the grocery store. Mike isn't support.

[fallen hatch]

further discussion with you is hopeless as i can see, i really can't see this game going forward with such attitude

[placid plinth]

this is like walking into the city planning office and yelling at the desk for a cop arresting your friends.

[naive dome]

I will send you thicket but I don't know if it will come in 5 days on your website .
TIME WILL TELL ,for me it's a scandal

[tough seal]

i think u guys should ban first RMT gamers..

[crude plover]

A much better place to complain and air your grievances would be #feedback.

Because then it might actually reach the right people

[placid plinth]

I understand that people are upset about this. This is not an appropriate use of this channel. Please read the description.

[plucky badge]

To reinforce Mike's point, this is for questions related to the game that folks need answered by him and other developers.

[inner quest]

I've already suggested this in the appropriate channel, but I'm curious what your thoughts are on game developers going over common player feedback in a public manner, Mike. What I'm thinking of here specifically is how other games do a "How the Launch of Season X Went" type of forum post 1-2 weeks in to a new season. I think it would be really interesting to see developer thoughts fleshed out like that; the closest we currently have is Eterra Monthly, but nothing in there really covers the "question and answer" format I'm imagining.

[boreal goblet]

Can I ask what actions are being taken against the "toe" spammers, I see them 10-20x a day now, always report and block them, but my block list is getting very large

[quaint spindle]

They are like cockroaches, you nuke one and 2 more pop up - we're working on more permanant measures to take care of them

[boreal goblet]

Thank you, I know they're hard to deal with.

[plucky badge]

We are doing this with Feedback Forge in Eterra Monthly - It's a new feature where we go over things we're doing based on player feedback

[plucky badge]

Good news is we got a bunch of tools we're going to be working to enable that will prevent this behavior

[inner quest]

The feedback forge is nice, but that's not really what I meant. The feedback forge mostly covers things that are already finished (and already in the game, or will be very soon) -- it doesn't address things where the answer is "no" or "maybe later" or "we disagree; here's our thoughts on why."

[plucky badge]

It varies, and we did that in the first month IIRC. Happy to do this for April's 🙂

[fallen hatch]

Maybe try temporarily blocking the word "toe" on chat and see what happens

[crude plover]

They'll change it to'e or something. There's a reason it already looks so weird. Also blocking normal words isn't really conducive to a good chatting experience for people trying to use it normally.

[fallen hatch]

Well 2 days ago the word "come" was forbidden too so that also messed with the experience and you will rather use the word "come" more often than "toe"

[crude plover]

Hence why Muffin mentioned they're working on a more permanent solution.

[quaint spindle]

I cant go into more details here - but suffice to take its not as simple as mere text detection

[flint bloom]

can we not have this conversation here? the devs are working on it. you got your answer

[undone star]

i got banned and i think they came for me because of my name..

[flint bloom]

you have already been told to reach out to support. coming here again does nothing

[undone star]

its not even funny, i know people emoted with xd, but since no reason was given i am free to think is because of my name

[flint bloom]

you can think w.e you want, but stop bringing it up in #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs its not a question, and you were already directed to support

[fallen hatch]

I reacted like that cuz it actually might be the reason judging by the amount of false positive bans recently, void is taking over this game

[placid plinth]

I understand you're upset. Please realize that you're talking to someone who has spent close to a decade putting their heart into this game. Taking it out on me won't help.

[plucky badge]

If you're confused about anything related to your account, we're happy to investigate and provide information to you.

Our developers, including Mike, aren't the ones that make decisions surrounding violations of our Code of Conduct. If you wish to direct your frustrations to anyone, you're welcome to do so with me as I oversee the team executing these decisions.

[heady latch]

Derrick can I DM you or nah? or even email directly?

[plucky badge]

What's it pretain to?

[heady latch]

This

[undone star]

i tried DM ing you, you blocked DMs

[haughty heath]

I'm not blaming or complaining about the developers; you've done a truly fantastic job, and I thank you for that. However, it's truly unfortunate that this work is being wasted due to mistakes of the support team, that's was my message for the devs ( you should give this more attention other than saying "Dont type here go for support team")

[haughty geode]

W devs

[broken sparrow]

Weaver Tree Node "Gilded Tails" describes every Drop as an "Item" which includes Runes aswell. My question is here: Does "Guaranteed Unique Item" Inlcude Rune of Ascendance/Havoc/...? In my understandings Havoc/Ascendance/... are Unique Items?

[crude plover]

Havocs and ascendance runes are not unique

[fallen hatch]

And see what Derrick did? You could have done this - you could've redirected us to Derrick so we're not shooting blanks at you if you're not responsible, don't be a decoy, give us a path so we can follow it, thank you Derrick for giving us a proper direction and Mike for surviving the attack

[fallen hatch]

Can i DM you too on behalf of those 3 friends of mine?

[limpid pelican]

its all the group players complaining, why do I feel like you guys know what you got banned for and just trying to go around it

[fallen hatch]

Oh look at you, the omniscient

[dull bay]

I got banned aswell today,Been playing LE since alpha. I changed my characters from MG to COF for a while now, but yesterday since my wife's wanted some gold to change her build i made a new char and bought her item ( which was a couple of million) same IP and everything too

her account is fine tho lol

[crude plover]

Please open a ticket to appeal:
https://support.lastepoch.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=4416937240347

[dull bay]

thanks

[vocal spruce]

Are you allowed to RMT if it's on HC SSF?

[crude plover]

Please don't clutter this channel with jokes and comments regarding something that shouldn't have been discussed in this channel in the first place.

[spare bridge]

Hi, I opened a modmail ticket a while back but haven't received a response yet
it's been over two weeks now. Is that typical for modmail response times, or is there a chance it might have been missed? Just wanted to follow up. Thanks!

[crimson depot]

Why is the shade killing me twice?? How can I be dying right after I respawn in the portal area???

[flint bloom]

a bug. hit f8 and report it

[brisk jackal]

Are the drops from Omen encounters and Omen's Veil affected by corruption? For example, do they drop more idols/altars/corrupted exalted items, or have more or higher-tier affixes?

[crude plover]

Yes

[flint bloom]

Thats a cool #suggestions

[placid plinth]

If you didn't receive any reply at all, not even the automated one. Please double check spam folders and if you still can't find the automated reply even, please resubmit.

Two weeks is significantly longer than expected.

[spare bridge]

Oh, modmail

I was referring to the Modmail Ticket system in the Discord server.

[shrewd pewter]

Hi there! I was wondering if a dev might know off the top of your head of a monster buff that gives enemies +flat damage. I'm trying to work out some worst-case numbers for a hit that one-shot me, and it's pretty slow hunting through the Bestiary for monster skills that grant buffs.

[crude plover]

There aren't any I'm pretty certain

Buffs like that would be really weird on enemies since for some fast, low damage attacks it could multiply their damage by several times while doing pretty much nothing for big bonk attacks. Which is why all buffs are in the form of either increased or more damage

[shrewd pewter]

Is there log or something I could look at that might have numbers? I didn't think to screenshot my death, unfortunately.

I can share what I came up with, if that's interesting to you.

[crude plover]

There is technically a log file but nothing that's like a death recap or recent damage taken or anything. it's a debug log, unsure where it's located

[shrewd pewter]

Well, maybe I'll try to recreate it later now that the character is in softcore. Thanks for the answer!

[placid plinth]

The info you're looking for isn't available in game. I also don't think any buffs like that exist.

[crude plover]

Feel like if one did it wouldn't be something that's applied to enemies generically but maybe a boss specific buff or something

[placid plinth]

Oh, I have no idea how that works at all.

!support

[fiery lily]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[placid plinth]

Try opening a ticket there

[spare bridge]

I was originally going to submit a support ticket, but I was told that using modmail would be the better way to reach the developers, so that's the route I took. If I submit a ticket through the support site instead, would that also get forwarded to the developers?

[placid plinth]

They go to the exact same inbox.

[spare bridge]

Thx!

[violet plank]

Hey EHG, I have a question regarding an interaction of Marrow Shards, to activate Bone Shatter on the Bone Golem.

I am using Marrow Shards with "Apathy" to friendly fire hit my Bone Golem.
Bone Golem uses the "Bone Hail" and "Betrayal"

This causes Bone Golem to rapidly and repeatedly cast Bone Shatter upon being hit by a Marrow Shards. Which is the expected behaviour.

Now if we add the "Pyre Golem" node, and convert Bone Golem to fire, I'd expect Bone Shatter to still activate upon being hit by Marrow Shards.
When I try to hit Bone Golem with Marrow Shards now, it doesn't trigger the Bone Shatter.

Is this a bug?

To add on to that whole topic; if it were to work, with the Bone Golem's conversion to fire. Would the Bone Golem's "Bone Shatter" be converted to some form of Fire Bone Shatter? (VFX/Dmg)

[crude plover]

Looks like pyre golem doesn't cast bone shatter at all from what I'm seeing

It instead casts infernal aura

[violet plank]

Bone Shatter gets triggered at will upon being hit by Marrow Shards or enemies before the conversion to Fire. Once converted to Fire Bone Golem, the retaliation (Bone Shatter) no longer happens. neither from enemies hitting the Golem, nor my Marrow Shards
It feels as though that should still work

[crude plover]

yes

Like I said when it's converted it loses boneshatter and gains infernal aura instead

[pine chasm]

All the golem conversions replace boneshatter with a different active spell instead. The game never explicitly says this, so regardless of whether it's intentional or not, a bug report is useful and warranted.

[violet plank]

I see, so it basically has no access to the "Bone Shatter" as its castable spell.. okay, thank you

[crude plover]

Yeah it's for sure a bit unclear from the tooltips and node descriptions

[violet plank]

"Pyre Golems also cast Infernal Aura"
the also made me think it'd just add it to the spell list, and more importantly not take away Bone Shatter.
regardless of wording and clarity, I'd love to see either Bone Shatter remain castable for the Bone Golem. Or better yet have a converted Bone Shatter (since the Bone Golem has 3 conversion nodes available)
If its like this for balance reasons, I'd understand. But it felt like a bug to lose Bone Shatter when converting, so I thought I'd ask. I appreciate the response

[crude plover]

Make a post in the #suggestions channel regarding it, that's the best way of having it be heard ^^

[lusty pagoda]

does the increased unique drop rate blessing effect the chance to proc imprint drops if they're unique items?

like the end of echo reward one

[placid plinth]

No

[honest gale]

I asked in rogue chat as well, but maybe it’s better in here. When a shadowrend shadow imitates multishot, does the multishot benefit from the mana cost of shadow rend, the consumption cost or the mana cost of multishot for the marksman node that adds more dmg per mana cost?

[edgy shell]

follow-on Q to this, does it affect primordial drops from Rift Beasts?

[violet plank]

Quick question:
Does Gold drop rate change how much Ancient bones are dropped by enemies? (be it through blessings or other sources of gold drop rate increases)
I could swear, in 1.3 it increased the amount, just wondering if this got changed (or was a thing in the first place, be it intended or not)

[pine dome]

It does, same with when you get Zerrick in your echoes.

[violet plank]

Even still in 1.4?! AWESOME, thank you! :D

[shrewd pewter]

The thing that popped me was a Siege Bolt from a golem, so no boss effects in play. I was asking because I noticed while looking through monster skills afterwards that they all have non-zero added damage effectiveness numbers.
I had another idea: one of my defense layers was "28% of damage redirected to your highest health minion." My highest health minion was also full HP before the Siege Bolt, but if it also gets one-shot by the same hit, does that stat still work?

EDIT: Actually, I'll take this to community chat. I kinda wanna talk numbers and this feels like the wrong channel for that. Thanks again Mike & Cyborg.

[maiden brook]

Is it intended to be able to craft an experimental affix onto a primordial exalted boots/gloves/belt or not. At current that interaction is bugged and completely bricks the device for the instance (i have bug reported it) but i'm just asking to know what's intended there.

[crimson depot]

Dear Devs, any chance you can add lenses that give 4x uses and 4x rewards and increase the favor cost accordingly. Spending 30 minutes rolling prophecies is NOT FUN AT ALL. Personally I woulnd't mind 8x.

[crude plover]

They're changing the prophecy system so you won't have to roll as much anymore

[maiden brook]

(next season)

[crude plover]

yep

[pine dome]

First of all, if you want smth added into the game, #suggestions or #feedback
But the whole prophecy system is getting changed in s5

[crimson depot]

@crude ploverI hope this is not an out of season apriil's fool joke....

[pine dome]

wow so slow

It is not

[crude plover]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

tbf that was on april first

but trust x)

[pine dome]

He also said it Friday on stream

[crimson depot]

I can't check it right now, cause am rolling prophs, I ll take your word for it 🙂

[harsh sky]

Is there a line limit for merophage's affix list? Like, can I shatter a 4 affix item + regular sealed + primordial sealed + corrupted sealed (regular one, not the corruption exclusive) and get all 7 affix lines to coexist in the merophage?

[inner quest]

I would suggest testing how Merophage actually works in-game so you can see how horrible it is and immediately give up on any plans to use it

[crimson depot]

Is evade suppost to interact with Rogue's Flow passive? It messes up the combos and is very hard to keep track of the flow stacks on the buff bar, since all the icons keep changing position.

[crude plover]

Evade is a skill yes

[pine chasm]

No, it doesn't affect any boss drops (like those)

[pine dome]

Hi Mike, is Upheaval and its Shockwaves not being able to hit the same target a technical limitation or a choice you guys implemented?

[placid plinth]

choice (or mistake I guess), they use what's called a shared hit detector

[placid plinth]

possibly at all

[pine dome]

Follow up question then, how come the subskill shatter totem doesnt ? Because it can hit the same target, and within the same "cast" you get hit the same target with all your shatter

I guess I dont understand how Upheaval and Shockwave have a shared hit detector and Shatter Totem doesnt

[placid plinth]

shatter totem probably doesn't have the shared hit detector

[pine dome]

Simple as that ?

[placid plinth]

yup, that's from shatter totem

[heady latch]

Hey mike, (not a suggestion a legitimate Unity question), is there "momentum" in the game? Like, for example, if I use Rive, and my sword swings left at an enemy, is it technically possible for the enemy to go with the blade, and then when rive swings right, the enemy gets hit and swings right, almost like a follow through. I was playing zoomed in during the campaign, and it seems like currently the enemies move when hit, but not directionally based on the hit and I was just wondering if its technically possible just maybe a bit complex and into the animation department etc. This would mainly be in regard to strike skills as opposed to slams or something else which I imagine would require different feedback.

I'm also just thinking in PoE2 terms, since it feels like PoE2 has done some crazy innovation in the animation department. (not comparing just analyzing visuals). Whereas PoE1 doesn't really have that either. Since Unity is Open Source and not proprietary (so we don't know what exactly is going on in there) like PoE's engine, I was just wondering if there are mechanisms in place in LE for that sort of thing, or if it would require a huge overhaul? Ty for reading

[kind citrus]

is there any data you can share on number and/or percentage of people that have beat uber aberroth this cycle?

[placid plinth]

0.978% of characters have killed uber Aberroth this season so far

[placid plinth]

There is "momentum" if we make "momentum". The divide between what is possible and what is reasonable is gigantic.

[kind citrus]

thanks!!!

[placid plinth]

I used some wrong info and that's slightly wrong

[placid plinth]

it's actually 1.1%

[heady latch]

Yes exactly, I'm sure the engine makes it "possible" but introducing physics besides just ragdoll death physics is a huge undertaking I'm sure. I don't question that for a second. Just wondering if the gap with LEs current implementation vs. sort of what I'm talking about is gigantic then? Based on your response it probably is. (btw I work with full stack ERP apps for businesses and sometimes what they ask vs what is functionally reasonable is like.... eh so I totally get it) Usually the best solution is a "workaround" that feels 90% of what they are asking, but doesn't require the overhaul that 100% would require

[heady latch]

is there a breakdown between masteries for that? I am very curious about the split. I'm sure mage is much lower and I am curious lol

[timid fjord]

Can we see heat map for the new skills bladestorm and shadow rend at 300+ corruption?

[quaint spindle]

yup 1 sec

which mastery

[timid fjord]

bladedancer

[quaint spindle]

(was prob a dumb question lol)

[placid plinth]

having them react to proper physics and animate appropriately while alive is that big

[kind citrus]

very cool that you data like this

[heady latch]

is this publically available? WoW has something very similar for talent heat maps. I love stuff like this

[heady latch]

yeah makes sense. Thanks!

[placid plinth]

no, we track all the various data that goes out

[quaint spindle]

Ya its an internal tool I built haha

we use it for the occasional infographic

[placid plinth]

You should be able to do what the game says. I don't think the thaumaturgy device says anything about a conflict. I'm pretty sure the only requirements are 2 prefixes and no experiemental affixes.

[maiden brook]

well the bug has certainly made crafting these boots harder #👑┃item-showcase message

[burnt rivet]

do you guys every use that skill tree heatmaps to see where improvements can be made. like that shadowrend pretty much reinforces the illusion of choice or are the trees designed with that in mind. like do you guys expect people to always take certain things when the trees are designed and then add the skill taxes?

[quaint spindle]

yup 🙂

we do use it

its relatively new to our workflow though

so it hasnt had grand impacts yet

[mossy adder]

oh that's cool. I remember asking a similar question probably more than a year ago, and the answer was (obviously) no at that point

[inner reef]

will minion cooldown reduction from the primalist idols have any effect on the scorpians limit of 3 avalanche boulders per 2 seconds? Does it reduce the seconds for example 3 per 1.7 seconds or is there no effect?

Asking because i know it reduces EQ cooldown for bear, which is much more powerful, so wondering if theres an effect with the avalanche boulders

[placid plinth]

No, Reverberating Strike gives your Scorpion a triggered ability with a specific max x per y.

Groundshaking Might says "Your bear can use Earthquake..." This puts earthquake on your bear's hotbar.

[hollow ether]

Heya! ^^

Apologies if this has been asked before, but: when a unique item is created by means other than dropping from a mob (e.g. bought from Skarven), does the area level matter for the sake of LP?

• For items bought from Skarven: should I buy them from him in a lvl 100 echo to maximize LP? Or is buying them from him in town the same odds for LP?
• For items dropped by prophecies: should I run unique item prophecies in lvl 100 echo to max LP?

Thanks, take care <3

[steel stone]

Heyo, was wondering if its intended design for bosses to have such low potion drop rate even if you invest heavily into potion find. Makes builds that depend on it feel good in echoes but bossing is miserable.

[heady latch]

Do the storm bolt modifiers in gathering storm affect storm bolts expended from storm stacks in Tempest strikes tree "Sky Opener"? Lightning Strikes Twice, two eyed storm etc.

[placid plinth]

character level only

[placid plinth]

bosses do have a different potion drop rate

[placid plinth]

yes

[crisp shell]

Does Void Cleave's Champion of the Void node regain mana per cast or per target?

[steel stone]

is their drop rate based on hits? used a evolution on potion chance for the meme and saw no difference

[placid plinth]

yes, however if you're at max potions, it's very dramatically reduced

[placid plinth]

per crit

[jaunty walrus]

Hello, could you please tell me about support requests? Sent an application on Friday application number (85522) still no response(

[placid plinth]

No, I have no insight or information into open support tickets. You should have gotten an automatic reply outlining the potential wait time though.

[jaunty walrus]

@placid plinth Got it, thanks for the answer

[sturdy ridge]

Why cant I gain storm stacks when using rampage? Also when swipe makes me have generate 6 stacks , why cant gathering storm trigger to help me gain storm stacks? I was going to test the new unique idol

[crude plover]

You'll have to give more context, what should be giving you stacks while rampaging?

[sturdy ridge]

In the werebear form skill tree , in the left area where it says when you are rampaging you cast storm bolts

[crude plover]

yes, that isn't storm stacks

you cast the bolts, you don't gain stacks

[sturdy ridge]

That is so unfortunate

[frank imp]

Any future plans including loadouts? I feel like being able to have at least 2 loadouts helps with builds, like having one for clear and another for bossing. That would be a huge QoL

[strange shoal]

Question for the devs - how does it make you feel about your game when you see this kind of thing happening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMuBTEDrr5E ? Successful league and changes to rogue class? I mean you nerfed acid flask for no reason? Are you guys upset? It's not a bug, obvs functioning as normal - just curious to hear your thoughts

[placid plinth]

We actually specifically don't have them so this doesn't become a thing.

[frank imp]

I thought it would make players work towards multiple builds and lessen the worries of "will I be able to take uber aberroth/x pinnacle boss". Still I understand the decision of not adding them

[placid plinth]

https://youtu.be/_XIs2RabVAg?si=fCBujL1xtzkwajmG

[strange shoal]

Ok got it - you don't care about your game, understood 🙂

[valid marlin]

Interesting conclusion

[placid plinth]

That's not what I was trying to portray. I think it's really cool that people are pushing the game to its limits. Much the same way they have done for probably the most influential game for me. The video just reminded me of one of my favorite D2 clips. Posting it without context was probably a mistake.

It likely points to a few outliers but this is not exactly a thing most people are going to try. It is rather a cool challenge you can undertake. Do I expect it to be possible next season? No, so get it in while you can.

I take extreme exception to the idea that I don't care about this game.

[strange shoal]

I apologise for misinterpreting your reply. I don't really think it's pushing anything to its limit, I think he's a good player but I think it's just a really broken build at the moment is all and was curious when things are so broken why they aren't addressed mid season? I did hear you guys many moons ago emailed the masses and it was decided only bugs would be addressed? Wasn't sure how accurate that was.

[placid plinth]

It's not a hard and fast rule but you can see the results of that public poll on our forums still. In general we avoid making substantial mid season balance changes that are unrelated to bug fixes.

[harsh sky]

Speaking of which, is there a corruption level you guys balance around when designing/testing? I know 300 corr was often mentioned, but I've also been told that it was a statement taken out of context. With a new uber-level boss coming soon, will we see builds in general get tuned to have a fair shot at uber-level threats?

[strange shoal]

Yeah fair enough - was that email sent out knowing seasons would go for 7-9 months or under the impression they might be much shorter though?

[crude plover]

there was no email

it was on the forums and posted here

[uneven axle]

Why does upheaval have the fire tag in the skill page if it can't ignite or switch to fire

[inner quest]

TBH I'm not sure I would interpret those poll results the same way EHG did. It seems to me like the actual answer players gave is: whether or not they want something nerfed mid-season (outside of bug fixes, which players always want) is dependent on how severe the balance issue is, and how severe the nerf is going to be. Like, hypothetically; if one skill was dealing a billion times more damage than anything else, not fixing that would likely be contrary to the wishes of most players.

[crude plover]

You can read more about the results of the poll here @strange shoal
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/mid-cycle-balance-survey-recap/68542

[strange shoal]

Thanks just reading now, wow almost 70k replies! Thats about 30k more than season 4 launch day 😮

[crude plover]

I disagree. I think in a perfect world where everyone can be assured that when something like that gets nerfed it's still pretty much the best build in the game the results might've been different. But we don't and it's very possible that something goes from the most busted thing in the entire game to like an A-tier build. At which point people who had spent hours grinding for the build would feel awful, hence the results of the poll.

[inner quest]

I'm specifically comparing the "mildly overperforming balance" and "overperforming balance" poll results, and extrapolating. 53.8% saying they dislike the idea of nerfs unrelated to bugs, 14.4% saying they don't care, and 31.8% in favor.. is not an overwhelming response in my eyes. Edit: I would even argue that the questions asked in the poll were slightly loaded (pushing players towards a specific conclusion by only mentioning the possibility of nerfs), and you would have likely reached a completely different conclusion if instead you suggested buffing underperforming builds and nerfing overperforming ones (as part of some sort of mid-season balance update).

[edgy shell]

"nerf" also has its own connotation of being incredibly severe

[strange shoal]

I'll just say one more thing then let it be - I think also the 'mid season' thing right now when there is currently 6.7k people playing and and overnight peak of 11k would not be the same impact as if it was done with 70,000 players. I also think if you were to pre-warn that changes were going to be mad then so be it. Right now the builds mentioned it would be beyond "over performing" and "over powered" I mean 400-500m 1 shots on the hardest boss to me at least is "broken" - anyways thank you for the chat and the link appreciate your time as always

[inner quest]

I also strongly dislike the idea that major decisions like this can be permanently enshrined based on a single flawed poll, rather than being an ongoing discussion each season.

Like, what if all the players that voted for or against a specific thing no longer play Last Epoch? Do their votes from X years ago still dictate game balance decisions, even if the people playing now disagree with that?

There's also the problem that "nerf" doesn't mean the same thing to everyone, and it was never clarified anywhere in the poll.. effectively making the poll results useless, because you have no idea what people actually based their response on. Are we talking 10% less damage, or is the absolute obliteration that something like Acid Flask Trapper got on the table here?

[placid plinth]

The poll didn't dictate policy. There was a fairly heated debate about it and we wanted the community to weigh in. The results were treated as a "seat at the table" in that debate. It just so happened that the way the poll leaned was the side that already had an edge.

It is also important to say again (even though it got missed the first time). This isn't a solid rule, it's just something we avoid doing.

If anyone wants to see this changed, please put it in #suggestions I would personally love to have more ammo to point to next time it comes up.

And I say that but it is so rare that people take me up on it. I often go check a day after I tell people to use #suggestions or #feedback and I should really start taking that data down as it feels like 10% to me.

[inner quest]

I'll just re-format what I wrote here and post it in #feedback

[placid plinth]

Thank you

[inner quest]

If an enemy has 1 ignite applied by Smite, and 999 ignites applied by another skill, assuming that enemy dies as a result of ignite damage, does that count as an "enemy killed by Smite" for Righteous Overload (enemies killed by Smite have a chance to explode)? Also.. what if Smite never actually hit that dying enemy at all, but there was an ignite originally applied to something else via Smite, which then gets spread via Wildfire Embers to everything?

[placid plinth]

First question depends on which ignite kills the enemy. If it's the 1 then yes, if it's the 999 then no. They are tracked independently in split stacks.

Second, not sure really. I would assume it's wildfire embers that gets credit.

[strange shoal]

When scaling dmg for fire/lightning dmg over time does "damage over time" and "elemental damage over time" scale the same amount?

[pine dome]

1% fire dmg = 1% dot= 1%elemental =1%ele dot

They all give the same amount of dmg

However the value of the affixes are different

A t7 Ele Dot has higher number than a t7 fire dmg

[sage pike]

Dear EHG Team. My corruption level is currently 1200. What corruption level do I need to have so that, after one week of farming “Omen’s Veil,” I don’t end up with only a single low-roll idol that fits my build?

[placid plinth]

due to the nature of random item generation systems, there is no number which can guarantee results.

[quartz whale]

farm fractured prisons for omen idols

[maiden brook]

does increasing pack size in tombs and cemetaries via the burial grounds and/or hallowed depths nodes on the weaver tree affect spawn rates of silken cocoons?

[nimble hemlock]

Crit avoidance? Map modifier

So I have crit chance of 139% without critical vulnerability activation

If I’m not crit I get health. The modifier of the map is 35 crit avoidance. Why do I leetch health?

[maiden brook]

Crit avoidance is essentially chance to turn a crit into a non-crit. you having over 100% crit chance doesn't prevent them from doing that.

[nimble hemlock]

Does that mean, crit chance above 100% not working against crit avoidance? It does literally nothing?

[maiden brook]

correct. Additional crit chance is not intended to mitigate crit avoidance. if it worked like that you wouldn't need 100% crit avoidance to mitigate enemy crits, as they never get anywhere near 100% crit chance

[nimble hemlock]

Uh, next case of gear swapping

[vernal orchid]

There are any plans for weaver tree to have points which increase toughnes of monsters HP/DMG and rarity on them and not only pack sizes? For players who likes more difficult packs of monsters than having many weak enemies?

[final night]

Are primordial uniques included in the loot table for rift beasts in the bloodline glade woven echo?

[elder thicket]

Why I can only do suggestions and feedback with only 50 characters, and some people can write a book?

[pine dome]

50 characters is the minimum not the maximum

The max is smth around 1200 characters I believe

[low olive]

Will Vial of Volatial Ice + Hive Mind give my bees Frostbite and cold pen isntead of Poison for the coating of acid flask?

[crude plover]

Yes

[low olive]

Spicy!!!

[fading knot]

what do you mean by this about zerrick? I'm out of the loop

[fading knot]

thank you

[strange shoal]

With the interaction of "shield throw base damage converted to void" just checking if converted to fire will the void over ride it? The nodes with fire pen, more fire damage do those still add 25% more if so? And also does all throwing damage now become void throwing damage?

[placid plinth]

This is just about to change, like I just had to double check that it hadn't already changed level of just about to change.

Soon, void will be a proper full conversion that affects all the stuff like you'd expect. Including Lava Burst.

void does override fire

[strange shoal]

Ahhh ok I was just checking as I was testing and noticed a bunch of stuff made no difference to the damage tab when swapping things around - thanks! Any idea when that patch might hit? Will wait til then for alt 16 this season lol

[inner reef]

Good afternoon, I know scorpion is an older skill so the tooltips for everything may not be up to date, just wondering if the node "noxious carapace" will increased cold or lightning damage if the scorpion is converted respectfully. Thanks!

[fading knot]

Is the summon skeletons -> Individual Operator node still divided by your total number of skeletons?

[flint bloom]

PRAISE!

[strange shoal]

Question is when! lol I'm currently making gear for the build, bored of my fire one 😛

Does "10% of max health gained as endurance thresh" count on low life, like does it work off the total fixed max and not your current?

[heady latch]

Do explosive traps thrown by shadows not count towards the "maximum traps"? So I can throw 5 and my shadow throws 5, even though my max is 7?

[crude plover]

If you're talking about the lich node that limits your health to 50% of max then the answer is kinda in the wording, it doesn't reduce your max by 50%, just limits you from getting hp above 50%. So your max is still the number on the right and you'd gain 10% of that as endurance threshold.

[strange shoal]

Nah I just got an affix on the frenzy helm which I was going to tinker with on a low life build for 10% max life as endurance thresh lol

[crude plover]

Yes max health means max health and not current health

It would say current health if it meant current health

(sorry maybe I'm confused about what you mean)

[strange shoal]

Nah thats perfect, thank you!

[placid plinth]

always poison

[placid plinth]

Skeleton Rogues deal more damage (multiplicative with other modifiers) for each Skeleton Warrior or Archer you control.

[placid plinth]

as soon as it passes cert, might have hit a snag on the way out the door but it's soon

[placid plinth]

Your shadows never really exist or cast anything. It's all just you. It is possible that we might have made them not count but I would be very surprised if we did.

[fading knot]

Okay so it really is that big of a damage buff 🙂 thank you

[final night]

I added two Temporal keystone to my timeline and now I can not add anymore. Is this intentional or is it a bug?

[crude plover]

is your stability maxed?

[final night]

No its 673/1700

[crude plover]

And you have more keystones?

if so that'd be a bug I think yes

[final night]

Yes I have 30

[crude plover]

try going to town and back

or relogging

[final night]

Well so much for that strategy lol

I did i went to bazaar and back. Then tried completing an echo and trying again.

[strange shoal]

one more q around void shield throw for later - the idols that say chance to shred armor on hit with fire skill - with the conversion to fire then void - that will work with void?

[crude plover]

No

[inner quest]

just use the armor shred on throwing hit suffix idols? they have exactly the same roll range

[strange shoal]

lol literally just saw that and was about to edit 😆 - will need to replace my max rolled ones tho D:

[edgy shell]

how does Anomaly: Cycle of Decay (reset durations of DOT ailments) work with something like Taste of Blood (doubles bleed damage rate by halving duration but keeping same damage) or even Anomaly: Quicksand (increases DOT ailment speeds)? Does the "speed-up" remain but the duration gets bumped back to the full amount? Or is the speed-up lost when the duration resets?

[maiden brook]

just bumping this question

[fallen hatch]

I highly doubt it since cocoons usually spawn as one per spot so even with increased pack size it would still be below the number that could round up to 2, those nodes are most likely only for monsters that are guaranteed to spawn inside the cemetery

[maiden brook]

I'm sure that's a possibility with how things go but you and i aren't gonna know for sure, only devs can give a solid answer there. It's also possible that they are completely exempt from pack size modification in the first place for a variety of reasons.

[fallen hatch]

Also to justify my opinion tunklab says that cocoons are objects that, once destroyed, release the monster

[heady latch]

Unless I’m gaslighting myself, I think I cant have more than 7 armed at the same time, but if I create a bunch of shadows and throw out a trap (5 per throw) each shadow also throws 5 but they instantly detonate upon hitting the ground until only 7 are left and those ones arm until an enemy is on top of it. That’s how it seems to work, anyway. Thank you 🙂

[broken sable]

my corruption rune roll all stats on item to perfect , but one stat "less dmg overtime taken" rolls unperfect , i guess it is bug or correct me if i am wrong , ( item "Tabi of Dusk and Dawn" )

[crude plover]

Afaik when the corruption rune hits all max rolls it just sets everything to whatever is on the right on the roll range, so for negative values like less damage taken it actually ends up working against you and min-rolling that modifier. Which does definetly go against the spirit of it in my opinion. I'd make an in-game bug report using the in-game tool (F8)

[broken sable]

ty , already did report in game

[neon spear]

hello devs. there's a bug when trying to switch characters by going back to the main menu and going into char selection whereby the game will always be stuck in connecting mode even after logging into the char

[crude plover]

If you've encountered a bug please use the in-game bug report tool (F8) to report it. If it's impossible to use the tool because of the bug restart the game and then report it, the logs will still be there so it'll still be useful. Nothing from this channel gets logged

[forest bluff]

does the infernal prism node by elemental nove penetrates global elemental resistance (cause enemies to take increased damage from all elemental attacks) or only cause enemies to take increased damage from elemental nova?

[languid zenith]

What does it say it does?

[wise lark]

I put my item in the egg and empowered it with nemesis twice? my item is gone now and I did not fail the challenge
i'm so depressed

legit think i'm gonna quit hte game now

[inner quest]

"Infernal Prism: Elemental Nova hits penetrate enemy elemental resistances" seems pretty clear to me, it only affects Elemental Nova hits.. because it says exactly that; is this a translation issue..?

[vital shard]

you hit banish or your filter hid the item
or you killed him and died

[gilded junco]

Good Morning Devs, My account was banned the other day and I would like purchase the game again, if possible. Is there any way to add the game to my existing steam account or do I have to make a new steam account or am I banned forever?

[pine dome]

!support

[fiery lily]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[pine dome]

@gilded junco

[crisp shell]

Does Countenance of Majasa's petrify interact with Stun mechanics? (Increased chance/duration, more damage to stunned)

[pine chasm]

No, it's not really a stun

[crisp shell]

Thought so

[prime plume]

Hello derrick, can you please check your dm anytime you're free @plucky badge

[quaint spindle]

Please do not ping EHG staff 🙂

[potent arrow]

Will the Abyssal Traveler/Templar/Vanquisher/Legend packs come back in to the shop rotation at some point?

[void solar]

With Steam Families replacing the old sharing system has there been any thoughts to allowing Last Epoch to be shared again? I do understand why sharing was turned off back in 2024 and I'm not trying to complain about it.

Seems like the new sharing system fixed some of the issues the old system had, such as now each slot has a one year cooldown before a new person can use that slot.

[placid plinth]

Best I can do is a maybe. I had no idea that it was changing. It sounds like they have made some good changes but I'm not sure it fixes the fundamental issues we were having with it and account saving on our end.

[placid plinth]

It's possible, it's not a complete gone forever situation.

[kindred night]

hey Mike, do you know if the "flaming" node in black hole (more fire damage) also applies to cold damage if you get back the cold tag via binary system?
and is the base damage of black hole split between fire and cold with binary system?

[placid plinth]

always fire damage
yes (it adds the base cold damage as fire)

[hearty widget]

Sent you a message Mike

[placid plinth]

Sorry, you'll have to ask your question here. If it's not something you want public, please open a support ticket on our support site.

!support

[fiery lily]

Anything we can help with? We've support articles and a contact form at https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[hearty widget]

I cant post a screenshot here Mike

[placid plinth]

that's right

[void solar]

Thanks. Yeah, they rolled out the new one in late 2024 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/593110/view/4605582245626919823. Bit too late to help back in early 2024 when sharing was turned off.

They did also change that if a shared person is banned, the game owner is also banned.

If a family member gets banned for cheating while playing your copy of a game, you (the game owner) will also be banned in that game. Other family members are not impacted.
Which was definitely an issue with the old system where that didn't happen.

[hearty widget]

Mike. Look in primalist chat.

[placid plinth]

stop sending me DMs please, if I need a screenshot to answer your question, I'll ask for it.

[hearty widget]

Didnt mean to, I clicked forward message, i thought it would give you link on the server not as a private dm

[placid plinth]

Feel free to ask your question here whenever you want.

[placid plinth]

Yea, I think these all sound like great updates to the system. I'm just not sure what was the primary reason for the change.

[hearty widget]

Mike. ETA on visual clutter improvements?

[placid plinth]

Reducing visual noise is quite often the reason behind lots of little changes we make each season. So it is constantly being updated.

[hearty widget]

Tornado?

[placid plinth]

No details available. If you want us to consider making a change, head over to #suggestions and let us know about it.

[timid fjord]

Any insight to what decides if traversal skill is given speed scaling or not?
At first I though it might have been limitation on older leap style movements like leap slam missing it since newer ones like dive bomb spear slam have it but I noticed volatile reversal was also made into non-scaling one.
Purely balancing thing then, no tech limitations?

[placid plinth]

I would have to double check but it's probably just looking at if they are fixed distance or not.

[heady latch]

Are patch notes updated in steam yet? or are they posted somewhere on the forum?

[placid plinth]

yea, link in #news

[grim rover]

Hello. I was wondering if a serialized parsable version of the skill trees, passives, etc. were available anywhere. I wanna try building some tools but it seems that the data isn't as accessible as it is for PoE or something

They definitely have the data but I can't find an export or a dump and they don't seem to have a github

[flint bloom]

that access is only given to certain sites

[grim rover]

Fair enough

[kindred night]

what does that mean exactly?
the spell's base damage is 60 cold. if i have +40 flat adaptive spell damage, that would be 100. with binary system, would that become 50 cold 50 fire, or something else?

[placid plinth]

We don't have a data dump that we make or give out. Any sites that have this data are doing it manually themselves. We do give out early access to (I think unplayable) game builds which are designed to give these sites some time to collect the data before the patch drops to update their sites early though.

[placid plinth]

at 60 base cold damage with +40 spell damage and the binary star node, you would be dealing 80 cold and 80 fire damage

[wanton mason]

Can we get fix for golem and abomination not attacking issue,its been almost a month,why cant it be fixed by now,it makes those builds unplayable?

[placid plinth]

I'm not sure what might be causing the issue off the top of my head. It's possible that maybe the issue is not consistently reproducible and we're looking for more data still. It could be something else entirely too.

[wanton mason]

thers video proofs on bug sections on forum and many players saying sane issue,u can even google it and ai will tell u about it and whats cousing it,so even ai knows all about it but nobody on le team has that issue?

[placid plinth]

No, I'm just not involved with bug fixing these days so I don't know what's going on with them. We don't have individual public bug status information. If it has been reported via our in game bug reporting tool then it is in our system. I was just giving you some general reasons why a bug might not have been fixed yet. Nothing to do with this specific bug.

[heady latch]

So do Caustic Concoction, Lasting Sickness, and knowledge of immunity lliterally do 0 if you fire convert acid flask?

[void solar]

Knowledge of Immunity mentions that it changes. For the other two, yes. They only mention they'd change to Frostbite if Cold converted. Explosive Flask node Fire conversion does give +100% more damage to make up for losing the DoT.

[heady latch]

got it ok thank you, im an arpg player so I don't read obviously

[hollow agate]

Hello

Is the change to weaver idol 2 slot resistance affixes, making it exactly the same amount as the 1 slot intended or not ?
If yes, why the nerf wasn't announced and why did you nerf it? Do you want people to use one 1x1 weaver idol ?

[placid plinth]

I'm not sure, sounds very odd to me. If you think it might be a bug, please use the in game bug reporting tool [F8] so we can investigate.

[heady latch]

Hey Mike, was Instrument of the Alchemist being abused in some way that warranted the nerf from 100% chance to 10% chance? I mean 100 may be quite high, 10 also feels quite low. I left feedback already don't worry, just wondering if you were a part of those conversations / decisions and what the general idea was behind the nerf?

For context, I like the idea of self casting traps and acid flask was a nice damage boost to that, but now for Single Target at least, the trap/flask build I usually run every season feels a bit dead now.

[placid plinth]

Having the clearly best way to use Acid Flask being use Explosive Trap, doesn't fit with the intention of the node.

[foggy hull]

Can confirm that Flask node hits like an atomic bomb lol
On another note, with the most recent patch changes to conversion updating sheet dot chance, I would like to know if that means these conversions now apply Passives that read generic chance to inflict DoTs such as Witchfire reading your Ignite Chance with Fire Skills?

(I’ll test regardless when im off work but this might be quicker thanks )

[heady latch]

are there other good ways to use acid flask besides just explosive trap and shift?

[placid plinth]

Ideally by pressing the acid flask button.

[heady latch]

I see, I mean I agree with nerfing it to a chance vs being 100% like before, totally. Its like why would you ever even consider using acid flask, just use trap and you get acid flask for free. I mean like, down to 10% though, vs like 25%.

[placid plinth]

I don't think it changed any functionality but rather just the display of what was already happening. I'm not sure though and I can't check right now. (in a big reimport)

[placid plinth]

You're welcome to let us know that you think it was too harsh in #feedback

[heady latch]

I did, I was just curious if it was exploited super hard and you guys tested different percentage chances and thought 10% was the most balanced is all. I'm not for one way or another, of course I'd like to be more powerful, but my question was more aimed at the internal testing results during the development of the nerf. I suppose maybe my question isn't really that important, nor would that be something you might know off the top of your head lol

[placid plinth]

Yea, I don't know the exact stages that one went through. It would have been flagged for needing a change, someone would have proposed a number. It got debated, set to something agreed upon and tested. Loop until happy.

[heady latch]

fair enough ok just curious 🙂

Also another question, contamination node in acid flasks mentions that it can be converted to cold shred if the skill is converted to cold (I assume through the unique) but that excludes fire conversion from the explosive flask node on the tree?

If so, that means you couldn't run alchemists gift as fire without effectively losing 3 points in contamination?

[placid plinth]

well you don't really lose them but they aren't very much use.

[heady latch]

I added "effectively" to appease the semantics 🙂

[placid plinth]

Explosive Flask is just converting the physical component to fire so I'm not sure why it would convert the poison shred to fire shred.

[heady latch]

I don't necessarily disagree with that. It only feels wrong since you basically waste 3 points if you wanted to run fire flask traps but yeah. The solution if ever implemented to allow for that without wasting points would probably to move the trap node instead of converting poison shred to fire. If you converted it, you'd basically make the armor shred->fire shred useless so yeah I don't disagree with that.

I will say, sometimes it does feel weird for skill damage conversions to not convert dots/pen/shred nodes too, but in this instance I would say that it is warranted and correct given that fire shred IS available in the skill tree

[fallen hatch]

Just wanted to say thank you guys for fixing Flow not proccing on DB and Falcon Strikes, I couldn't stand those "pros" with their 1hko uber kills, big kudos to you!

[zinc plover]

I would like as a side project to build a small tool to do an approximate dps meter when hitting boss dummy.
Would a screen reader that just look at the dummy hp bar be against tos ? I would guess that a program trying to read it from the memory would totally be against ?

[languid zenith]

Curious as to what expectations weren't being met for the Ultimate Edition's Temporal Guardian armour? The new one doesn't really look that different from the original and at least in my opinion the old one was fine.

[crude plover]

Both would be

Especially if used in online

In offline it's a bit more of a grey area since while they'd be against the EULA ehg have said they don't have plans of hindering offline mods

(btw it's honestly really easy to estimate your dps on dummy by just recording it and timing it)

[zinc plover]

Yeah that's what i'm actually doing, but i would have loved to have a way to "automate" it.
Didn't expect an external program that read data like my eyes do and just do the math for me be against it 🤔

[native path]

I dont know if its a bug or designed that way.

When I specialize into Nemesis and Rune Mages to spawn in Tombs & Cemetries, I do expect them to be there. But sadly its almost never the case. Its only the case if the Tomb or Cemetry is a randomly found one AND the monoliths quest has nothing to do with "kill rune mages" or "clear the nemesis" and only then I am able to make use of this spezialication.

In order to unlock Mage and Nemesis spawns in tombs, I also have to put points into "increased Tomb & Cemetry spawn rates in my echo web". Essentially any Monolith I run that has the Tomb visual will not have these weaver points active, but I have to spec into making them more frequent, that is so weird.

I can see why it wouldn't work on custom spawned woven echoes, but not on those random generated ones?

[pine chasm]

It's a bug. Really, anything that you feel doesn't do what it says it does is a valuable bug report, regardless of design intent it means something is wrong. Definitely bug report it with F8 if you haven't already.

[inner quest]

Quick question regarding the #tooltip-hunt channel -- is anyone from EHG actively reading stuff reported here? I have posts in this channel as far back as April 16 2025, where the typo still isn't fixed. I know typos aren't super high priority.. but they're also really, really easy to fix. Is an entire year not enough time..?

[tender ibex]

Yooo just wanted to say you guys rock, I tried so hard to play shield throw this league but for void/time rot but it was super frustrating because of the conversion, now I can come back and full send it. Thank you thank you thank you haha

[final cave]

How easily are string typos fixed in LE? Are they externalised and What sort of QA do they go through? Could you use AI to fix the English language typos or are there policies which prevent it?

[placid plinth]

It depends wildly. Some are incredibly easy, others are a lot more tricky. I wouldn't trust AI to touch anything like that at all. (I'm whatever the opposite of an early adopter is though when it comes to AI)

[placid plinth]

They probably just don't get prioritized enough against larger bugs.

[low olive]

A level 38 Rogue just killed Uber Abby...

Is there going to be an official statement on the balance, or just continue radio silence?

[placid plinth]

Anything that depends on or reacts to the game state is not ok to use.

[placid plinth]

Only my last reply when that was brought up.

[strange shoal]

The chakram node in shurkiens 100% for direct/50% non direct - if a shadow throws a chak is that still direct or is it halved?

[placid plinth]

Direct means that you pressed the button and it directly happened. Your shadow uses it as an indirect triggered effect.

[strange shoal]

Haha i was hoping because I pressed the shadow button that would also count - dang, that was a fun build last season ahwell RIP to that one too lol

[placid plinth]

Lol what shadow button

[maiden brook]

is it intentional that different coloured lizards no longer have different coloured minimap icons?

[inner quest]

Does the physical penetration from the colossus buff in shield throw get converted to fire (or void) with damage type conversion (Magma Shield, sentinel affix, etc)?

[zinc plover]

copy that 🫡

[languid zenith]

Should do I believe

[broken sable]

can i drop set items from prophecy that require lvl higher then my character ?

[crude plover]

Yes

[inner quest]

Do Void Rifts (from Devouring Orb) gain "More Damage" when something dies nearby, or "More Hit Damage" (as in, excluding ailments)? The skill description is written as if it's "More Damage" but the skill node "Soul Eater" (which both references and interacts with this mechanic) is written in a confusing manner.

[hearty widget]

Fix tornado

[pine dome]

If you think you have found a bug, please report it ingame by pressing f8

[crimson depot]

The rogue affix " +x% chance to gain Dusk Shroud when you use a melee attack that hits"
Does that mean you have to directly use the skill or it can be used with procs?

[placid plinth]

yes

[crimson depot]

Yes, on which part? the directly or the proc?
or it doesn't matter?

[placid plinth]

you have to directly use the skill

[limber tartan]

Man I thought I was misremembering when I came back to the game and the lizards are all yellow on the minimap

[rough zenith]

When will warpath be fixed? still stops spinning. after 3 failed patch just revert warpath to how it worked in previous seasons.

[placid plinth]

Only going off of what I've seen on reddit, twitch, forums and discord, I thought it was fixed from the reactions I've seen. If you're still having issues, please submit a bug report in game using [F8] so we can investigate your situation.

[flint bloom]

also make sure you are on the latest patch, esp if offline

[wide moss]

Cemetery objective is not reachable for me since the latest patch, im offline. Is the team aware of this?

[timid fjord]

Have you made bug report?
if yes, then they are aware
if no, then there is a chance they are not aware and you should make a bug report

[wide moss]

I get an error when i try to submit one, "unexpected error"

[low olive]

With the Lava Burst conversion changes, does it make Vitality scale damage now like all other void skill, or is it still Attunment?

If it is Attunment, can we get it swapped to Vitality with the conversion? Seems silly to have a stat we won't stack on VK to do all the scaling then.

[languid zenith]

Is it possible to make players immune to damage when the Blessing Menu shows up or make it so the Blessing Menu doesn't remove control from the player?

Are you guys aware of this being an issue?

[scenic belfry]

For items that summon minion (like the offhand that summons a T-REX) would you allow us to use pet illusions to hide the original model. He is so big, I would really like him to look like the rest of my undead army!!! It would only be for appearances.

[placid plinth]

You never cast Lava Burst on ricochet, the shield does. This means that any attribute scaling has already been applied when you threw the shield.

[placid plinth]

Not without introducing very significantly larger issues.

[placid plinth]

Size does have mechanical implications so a visually smaller version does change functionality. It's possible that we could add something that shrunk it but it would need to be granted through a mechanic and not the appearance system. If you'd like to see us consider adding it, please make a post in #suggestions .

[placid plinth]

If you're in full offline mode the bug submission doesn't work. You can still play offline characters while logged into the game through steam. In order to submit bug reports in the most effective manner so they are looked at, I recommend booting up not in full offline mode to submit the report. You can also submit on our forums but that doesn't go direct into our bug tracking system backend.

[heady latch]

is this not already a thing? Whenever I open the character pane in the blessing menu I have 100% less damage taken

[broken sparrow]

are Idols additive or multiplicative damage, since it says increase: base dmg x (sum(all increased dmg sources))?

[fleet galleon]

Additive
More is multiplicative

[broken sparrow]

so how is it calculated as formula?

[placid plinth]

you posted the right thing in your question. I think a more in depth example is in the game guide under I think damage maybe

[broken sparrow]

okay than more damage would be base dmg x (sum of increased dmg) x (sum of more dmg)?

[placid plinth]

do you mean right after you've killed all the enemies and there is no way to abuse the system because everything is dead?

[placid plinth]

close but more damage is multiplicative with itself so it's base x sum of increase x more1 x more2 x more3...

[broken sparrow]

ty

[placid plinth]

here is a really good resource:
https://www.lastepochtools.com/guide/

[low olive]

Then the game has an error showing Attunment scaling for the skill even though it has no connection to Attunment on the tree or inherent skill for Shield Throw.

Does this mean hit scaling is incorrectly getting applied then for flat throw scaling for it as well? IE. Sigeon's adding flat scaling to the skill with reflect. Same with the Block % hit scaling from the other nodes on the top left of the tree?

Just confused because I thought these never scaled burst and that you had to go Attunment as a Pally for scaling burst with flat spell, fire pen, fire damage, and Attunment.

Without this change conversion to Vitality it still seems way worse then and out of place to have improper dead scaling for a secondary skill vs. what you stated the scaling is.

Just curious if that was really the issue as well for truly pushing scaling was having a dead stat too.

[placid plinth]

This is just how the skill system works. If you were to be able to cast Lava Burst, it would scale off of attunement.

No, it is working correctly.

We generally try to have any subskill display the same attribute scaling as its parent skill to avoid this confusion but sometimes a skill can be triggered by multiple skills. I don't think that's the case here but I'm not sure.

The only non-specializable, triggerable skills to not inherit attribute scaling are Fire Aura and Burning Daggers. (We might have some others but I can't think of them off the top of my head)

[low olive]

So a change to Vitality scaling from the Void conversion probably won't become a thing then?

[placid plinth]

the source of the void conversion would have to introduce it

[low olive]

Sadness, I will probably put that in suggestions. It should, that would be nice for VK then.

[lusty pagoda]

How does the kismet effect on Scissor of Atrapos work for a skill like Shadow Cascade that is both Melee and Throwing?

[timid fjord]

Little more about the caltrops I asked during stream.
Since caltrop doesn't have any innate attribute scaling does it inherit Dex scaling of the skill triggering it (net, bladestorm, aerial assault) or work like fire aura and not inherit it?
Would nodes on those skills that for example say" Net does more damage" get inherited to the caltrop spawned by that skill?

[crude plover]

Would only work on the throwing component of shadow cascade but yes

[lusty pagoda]

Okay so does one direct activation provide 1 stack from the melee circle and then immediatly consume that one stack from the dancing daggers throwing portion?

[crude plover]

It's like fire aura

[lusty pagoda]

I don't know anything about fire aura? I noticed you guys have been mentioning it some though, should I just read up in the chat?

[crude plover]

Afaik the first cast should generate a stack and the second cast should consume it and generate a new charge. I can test in a bit though

[crude plover]

Basically fire aura isn't a subskill of whatever casts it so it doesn't get the scaling from the tree of the skill casting it

Same with caltrops

And technically storm bolts

[lusty pagoda]

oh wow, so only passive points and gear effect those, not the nodes of the skills casting them

[crude plover]

Usually yep

They usually will have dedicated passives or will get specific nodes in certain skills that scale them

[timid fjord]

oh oof thx for the answer, if caltrops has no attribute scaling I guess the build using it as main dmg is dead in the water

[placid plinth]

Someone asked in stream if caltrops behaves like burning daggers and fire aura and the answer is yes it does. Sorry, no idea who asked it.

[pine chasm]

Caltrops are a subskill, so yes they get the dex scaling passed down to them (well, the ones from AA I'm not sure on since that was recently changed). Yes, all applicable modifiers on net apply.
@crude plover this one is not like fire aura

[crude plover]

Didn't mike just contradict that right above your message?

[pine chasm]

He might have, but I have tested it and it does receive net's stats

[crude plover]

Huh interesting, Maybe it's a case like storm bolts where caltrops share nets tree, but I'm surprised they get the attribute scaling somehow since that's not really part of the tree

[pine chasm]

They don't benefit from your dex or any skill tree nodes when cast by AA, only the things that specifically say they affect caltrops globally.
The caltrops cast by net behave exactly as a normal subskill of net, just with the benefit of global caltrops nodes from AA.
(I have now re-tested this just to make sure it's all correct)

[lusty pagoda]

Is there a good spot to find info about the order of operations when determining if a hit happens?
Like does it check Dodge > Silver Shroud > Parry > Glancing Blow in that order etc.

[crude plover]

Silver shroud basically just puts your dodge to 100% and remvoes the stacks when you dodge, so they're in the same place, then comes parry, and then stuff like block, glancing blow etc

the order doesn't really matter outside of dodge coming first

[lusty pagoda]

How does that work with the idol effect 'chance to not consume silver shroud' like it would be cool if it checked your normal dodge chance first and then if it missed it would still dodge and check to see if it consumed the silver shroud

[crude plover]

No, it doesn't care if you would have dodged or not if you didn't have silver shroud

it acts the same if you have 0 dodge as it will if you have 80% dodge

[crude plover]

Are corrupted (sealed) affixes on legendaries supposed to count towards lp in gauntlet of strife? seems a bit odd to me

[signal leaf]

Can you place items from unique sources such as timeline boss uniques, harbinger only drops/ or whatever boss exlusive uniques and/or even primordial uniques on the woven tree?

[crude plover]

You can but they won't drop them

They'' drop "similar" items

but never the boss unique

[signal leaf]

ah okay, thanks

I would assume regularly dropped uniques can drop more often though?

[crude plover]

yes the more common a unique the higher the chance the imprint drops that specific unique

[signal leaf]

great, ty again!

Sorry to flood with more questions I have 1 last one for now, the level 10 COF node states that bosses have 150% increased drop rate for any specific rewards they have, would that functionally mean an item with a 10% chance to drop becomes 25%? not counting any other modifers such as corruption?

[crude plover]

No basically what it does is it acts like you killed the boss twice, with a 50% chance of acting like you killed it three times

[signal leaf]

oh okay that still seems really nice, thanks

[crude plover]

yeah it means that the bosses can drop more than one of the more common drops sometimes (possible to drop more than one rare drop too of course but that doesn't happen often as you can imagine)

[heady latch]

idk tbh I was just tryna give some info

[placid plinth]

I think caltrops is not a subskill of anything. From what I can tell it is independently indirectly cast by the player. The mutator for it sits on the player.

[timid fjord]

interesting, I was the one who asked, so it is bit of a special case if it does have dex scaling when it happens through net but not through aerial assault
*(did bit of testing myself too since it was so odd.
Caltrops is affected by Dex and Net nodes like 'net has chance to bleed' and 'net deals more damage' when using net and caltrop spawns.
When using Aerial Assault or bladestorm's blade detonation to create them caltrops does not scale with dex or with the nodes on the trees that don't specifically mention caltrops.
Net is the exception between these three)

[broken sable]

i have 100% increased attack speed ih my character sheet , is that means my hit rate is base weapon ias ( 1.2 ) x 2 = 2.4 attacks per second ?

[crude plover]

Yes, but you also need to take into account the skills base rate

[sage tendon]

What’s your fav color?

[crude plover]

I don't really have one honestly, also this channel isn't for asking us moderators questions

[placid plinth]

oh yea, I read the script wrong, net does cast it and feeds in the player's mutator so it will inherit net's scaling. (that's very new tech)

[crude plover]

wooot

so not a subskill but still gets cast by net

[placid plinth]

no it is a subskill because it gets cast by net

[crude plover]

oh

but caltrops from other sources wouldn't scale the same correct? sorry I think I might be overcomplicating this in my head

[placid plinth]

this is gonna get real confusing. TLDR up front here, it gets everything.

So usually when something creates an ability the thing that does the creating mutates that ability which changes the ability to align with the specializations you've selected and effects you have from gear. If this is done by the player, the attribute scaling happens and all the player stats are passed down. If this is done by another ability (we call that a subskill), it just inherits the stats from that skill and the mutator sits on the parent ability object.

In this case, the ability is doing the casting so it inherits the ability's stats (which in turn mean it gets the parent's attribute scaling because the parent has already converted those attributes into stats). However because we know that caltrops can have individual effects from multiple sources, we need a centralized mutator to store and apply all of those effects regardless of where it is cast from. So the player has the caltrops mutator on it and when net goes to create caltrops, net uses the player's caltrops mutator instead of its own (net doesn't actually have one because that would be a waste).

This results in caltrops from net getting all of net's stats and also all of the caltrop effects from all over.

This process of feeding a specific mutator into a different ability object constructor is brand new.

[crude plover]

ahhh

So it's kinda like storm bolts but instead of just sharing one tree with a normal skill (gathering storm for storm bolts) it gets stats from all over the place

and is also a sub-skill on top of that

[placid plinth]

yes? maybe? I'd have to check to make sure but the timeline on that being made would make sense for when we added this.

[crude plover]

That's pretty cool, hopefully we'll see more of it in other widespread sub-skills like icicles in spellblade (even though in reality they're not widespread and each source is it's own distinct sub-skill currently xd, that being ice shard and ice spike)

[pine chasm]

Very interesting, thanks for the explanation!
Sounds like caltrops has the tech that fire aura and burning dagger wish was around when they were being set up.

[placid plinth]

very much so yea

[scenic elbow]

I am always diconnecting ... what chn I do to fix that?

[crude plover]

#1230894608406413412 message

[fading knot]

can false temple or dead forest generate with a tomb?

[merry hornet]

can someone explain to me why i cannot disable controllers in game, i can't out and tab of the game bacause it start using my shitload of controllers from the sim rig and im gg. and why on earth would it disable my mouse when it detect a controller. if you have a simple gamepad ok, i would unplug it and thats that, but when you have wheel, pedals, shifters, handbrakes and other stuff im not unplugging 7 different usbs just to play the game. the workaround is to disable them from the steam properties, but then after alt and tab it start to use them and everything is f****d. it defenetly should not be like that

[void solar]

Let the devs know you want a feature added to disable controllers in LE by posting #feedback or #suggestions The format for those channels is:
Title: [10 character minimum]
Feedback: [50 character minimum]

The posts in those channels are collected and reviewed by the devs.

As a work around, here's a couple of ideas so you don't have to unplug all the controllers: 1. Use a program like HidHide - it's on github - which lets you hide the controllers from LE, 2. Use a PowerShell script or batch file to disable/enable the controllers, 3. Use Device Manager to disable/enable the controllers.

I also looked into Steam Input and didn't immediately see a way to have Steam Input disable the controllers, but that may be an option as well.

[hollow ether]

Hiya! ^^

So Carrion of Creation has four explicit stats on it:

1. +(100% to 157%) Chance to apply Bleed on Hit
2. 100% of Ignite, Frostbite, Shock, Time Rot, Damned, and Poison Chance Converted to Bleed Chance
3. When you kill an enemy it has a (25 to 47)% chance to explode with Primordial Blood dealing physical damage to others around it
4. Primordial Blood gains (37 to 100)% Chance to inflict Bleed on Hit per stack of Bleed on the enemy killed (up to 20)

Out of those four stats, are there any that can be inherited by Manifest Armor / Forged Weapons (with Phantom Grip)?

(I think I remember you saying here, a long time ago, that a general rule of thumb is that only stats that exist as shards can be inherited, but I think I also remember Maehlin's Hubris's bleed-to-ignite conversion being inheritable, so I thought I'd ask just in case Carrion of Creation's ailment conversion also works ^^)

Also, a similar question: do the following effects, which increase the legendary affixes on Weaver weapons, get inherited by minions?

5. Orb Weaver's Fang - "Stats on this item are doubled for 3 seconds after hitting a boss or rare enemy that is at low health"
6. Weaver Set - "Legendary affixes on equipped Weaver's Will weapons have 50% increased effect"

[harsh sky]

Destructive Intensity on Chaos Bolt's skill tree says "whenever you cast Chaos Bolts you gain a stack of Destructive Intensity". Is this supposed to work with indirect cast when not specified to be direct cast only?

[void solar]

There's some previous posts here and above that talking about it #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message sounds like if you have a weapon with say ignite chance and Phantom Grip ring, then yeah the ignite is converted to bleed for Forged Weapons with Carrion of Creation

[hollow ether]

Ah, I hadn't found them, sorry ^^ Thanks a lot for the answer!

[lusty pagoda]

Hmm, this really make me reconsider my alter and weaver rolls then.

I currently have an alter with +68% to weaver affixes and 15% (25.2%) chance to not consume silver shroud.

I thought I was getting more value out of what I was doing.

Given your description this 25% chance seems like maybe I’d be better off to go with a different weaver enchant on my idols and target prefixes for the alter. I mean if I kill it faster it can’t hit me when it’s dead right lol.

[placid plinth]

Yes, "when you cast" should always require direct, anywhere it doesn't is the exception.

[pine chasm]

1 and 2 can function on minions

[pine chasm]

Pretty sure 5 does not work, and 6 definitely does not work since it's a set bonus and there is no way for minions to equip (set) items

[crude plover]

Yeah I'm almost certain the only things that work in the list are 1 and 2

[hollow ether]

Alright, thanks a lot! ^^

[broken sparrow]

hey guys, I try to find a way to search for a xx/t7t7 Item by lootfilter. I cant find a way to specific filter for 2x T7 Suffixes. The only way by now is to select all suffixes on my own, based on my knowledge about the affixes. is there any better option or can we get some

[bitter lantern]

LE-52 error Anyone know fix to this?

[harsh sky]

you can put all the affixes (or just put none and it defaults to everything iirc), put min level 7 then put combined level 14

[broken sparrow]

this will result in an item with 2x t7 affix and 2 free slots

but i want 2x t7 suffixes

[harsh sky]

ahhh alright, yeah right now I think you'll need to select the suffixes on your own, at least that I know of 🙁

[broken sparrow]

yes, and this is not comfortable for new player, entering the end game. there is still some option missing here, some important one

in the best case affixes are "marked" like suffix, prefix, and so on

[harsh sky]

if we look at the name I suppose they're kinda distinguishable, the suffix would mostly have "of xxx", but still need to be entered manually

[vital shard]

there isn't a way to do it
I have a rule that shows all 2xt7
and 1 that shows all exalted with the right affixes
so i do not loose any possible good item
then you must use runes to turn the 2xt7 in what you need

[manic basin]

And in case of EQ - Fury of the Elements: "Casting Earthquake expends Storm Stacks over 0.5 seconds." Does that include eq cast by naturalwrath idol?

[pine chasm]

Yes

[fading knot]

Is there a list of which woven echoes can have a tomb / beast side area in them? Like I know the forgotten fortress can't for example

[final cave]

You won't find it here, but you might find it at Tunks
https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/

[fading knot]

Nope 🙁

[edgy shell]

from EHG's perspective, do the corrupted attributes align with specific gods? like Lagon kind of fits for Apathy, and Rahyeh sort of fits with Rampancy. Madness kind of fits with Majasa after her encounter with Apophis in the campaign, but Orobyss also fits with Madness. But I'm wondering if that's intended, and if EHG agrees with any of those mappings or has thoughts on who represents Brutality and Guile and which of the 6 gods gets left out if so

[wanton mica]

Wtf is up with Omen's Veil? Why is it soooo overtuned?

[crude plover]

Because it's pinnacle content with pretty massive rewards (let's you sustain chains)

The prison fight was meant to be between normal Abby and Uber Abby, and since it drops from veil it should also be pretty tough. The difficulty is also pretty build dependent as with all content, previously we haven't really had challenging content where builds with great clear excel, this is pretty much the first example. So if your build doesn't have great aoe damage it might struggle with it more.

[pearl solar]

Is it intended that chill immunity doesn't work against Aberroth's chilling waves? I feel like chill immunity should make me immune to being chilled, whatever the source. I invested quite a lot to have that on my idol so i don't have to worry about the waves slowing me down

[crude plover]

Yes, the chill (and actually pretty much all ailments) that aberroth applies aren't the regular kind, its an entirely different ailment

While normal chills last for 4 seconds and cap at 3 stacks, his "chill of aberroth" lasts for 6 seconds and has no cap.

also getting that affix is like 1 in 20 corrupts, if it did work vs his chills everyone would just corrupt 20 or so random adorned idols and have a way easier time in the fight just standing in the chill corner, it'd pretty much be a cheese. But if you'd like them to consider changing it so that it does work please make a post in the #suggestions channel.

[signal dagger]

I presume you're banning the bots spamming "toe" in global hence why there is new names every single hour, but is it possible to move them to a new global channel that they can be alone in?

[crude plover]

If they could move them to a different channel they would've just banned them instead

[signal dagger]

That's what I said tho that it seems that they're being banned since there's different names. But it seems like they can't keep up with so was thinking a different chat so it takes the bots some time to realise they have been moved. As currently it seems they get banned every hour then a new one shows up and you gotta block that one again..

[harsh sky]

does the type of the surround echoes affect what type of echo chain will spawn?

[placid plinth]

No

[novel nexus]

Hi everyone, could you please help me understand this Arcane Current Passive node of Mage class. I said that it would cast Lightning Blast when we use lightning skill, but on the extend information, it show a different skill is used, Arcane Lightning. It makes me confusing. Thanks!

[crisp shell]

Do minions granted stats via items (Phantom Grip, Julra's Obsession) benefit from Endurance? If so, do they have the standard 20% base DR and 20% of Max HP as Endurance Threshold?

[tender geode]

Hi all - I'm checking out Shadow Rend, and I just wanted to confirm that the Hidden Blades node (Shadow Daggers chance for Shadow Attack) does not apply for any attacks imitated by the Shadow (i.e. Shurikens).

[timid fjord]

it used to cast arcane lightning but was changed to lightning blast in this season, my guess is that the extended info was not updated but worry not it still casts lightning blast

[broken sable]

if my skill have 2 base chains , and +5 additional , so total 7 chains , but in tree i have node that says "Half maximum chains" so 3.5 , that number is rounded to 3 , or to 4 ?

[novel nexus]

Usually I see the skill scale down, so most likely 3.

Talk about chains, it look like Arcane Current still cast Arcane Lightning too me, since I don't see it chains like the Lightning Blast @timid fjord

[timid fjord]

had you directly casted any lightning blasts before the proc? "it chains to an additional enemy for each time it has been directly cast in the last 4 seconds"

[novel nexus]

My main skill is Lightning Blast, so yes, I use it to proc the Arcane Current node.

[timid fjord]

just tested now, it works for me.
to be sure did you test it in place where there are more than one enemy since arcane current cannot pick same target as the skill that triggers it.
so if you directly cast lightning blast arcane current cannot target that enemy, it needs second enemy near to target.

I was able to both trigger it and have the arcane current one chain.
if you are doing all the above then I can only ask you to send bug report with F8

[hard furnace]

Do individual designers or teams own different classes? Or are they owned by one team? I'm curious because some characters have such a clear vision and broad gear/idol support while others can feel incomplete in their identity.

Sentinel is an example where the amount of void items and options for VK far outweigh paladin and forge guard. Paladins identity fits well in the constraints of the game so it functions well without broad itemization, but forge guard feels very patchwork and contradictory rather than synergistic.

I'm highly curious about yalls structure for design process, development, and validation; but I don't imagine "I'm curious" is any kind of reason to share that level of detail.

My company is leaning into a systems engineering approach for software development so I wonder about how yalls process impacts your development goals.

[placid plinth]

yes

[crisp shell]

Sick

[placid plinth]

Lightning Blast rounds up.

[placid plinth]

There are teams that will be put on a specific feature like a new skill or unique items for a season. But each class isn't assigned to a person or group or anything like that. Each designer probably has their preferences and will be more active in the conversations around those classes. Personally I find designing for Rogue WAY easier than Acolyte. I'm not sure why but it just flows. Having recently gone through every single skill in the game in detail, I found it really interesting to see where those gaps are for me.

I think FG struggles to find a clear identity because of how it came to be and we recently had a meeting about that actually.

[broken sable]

nodes like "Lightning blast deal more dmg" in Lightning blast tree also affects to spark charges ? or works only for LB hits

[hard furnace]

Is there anything you can share about some of the issues with forge guard yall identified? I imagine solutions are a ways off but the dev side perspective would be neat.

[harsh sky]

How did it came to be anyway?

[pine dome]

The only one that works on Spark charges is this one

[broken sparrow]

is this right about nemesis: "with higher corr u have a higher chance that its already an exalted instead of rare. but if its unique or not is rnd" so if its an exalted or unique is not based on corruption (item rarity)?

[pine dome]

The items at the start of the Nemesis are affected by Corruption

[crimson depot]

Every time I start my game, Chat does not work, I have to exit the game, verify files via Steam and then it works, what could be the issue here? Corrupted files? Game not saving files properly?

[unique oar]

someone pls help...cant logon

[placid plinth]

Sorry, this isn't a support channel. Please try the usual things like turning it off and on again, verifying game files etc. If you would like support, please contact support directly.

!support

[fiery lily]

Need a hand? Just head on down to https://support.lastepoch.com/ for support articles or to reach out to us directly.

[placid plinth]

I would check that your video card software isn't overwriting settings and that the settings file isn't sitting in a cloud save managed folder like one drive that might be full.

If you need help, please contact support directly.

!support

[fiery lily]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[placid plinth]

I think it actually has really strong theming but the mechanics don't function as you would hope to back it up. That disconnect moment where it doesn't deliver cuts itself off at the knees.

Animating gear has insane implications given the wild combinations of gear that can exist. However, with how all the best item mechanics are implemented, it's not rally feasible to make them all compatible. If we did, it would also put a huge tech debt on future mechanics to work out of the box.

Lots of those mechanics were implemented with the knowledge that they would only every exist on the player and maximums were designed for performance purposes with that knowledge in mind.

I think my personal wish at this point would be to start marking specific highly interesting mechanics to be "forgable" or something like that where they could individually be implemented. I feel like it would start to fall into place a bit more.

Also possibly really making them the best at making gear. Like having a FG class requirement to some gear that you can only make as a FG.

[uncut sky]

Getting conflicting reports that this does in fact convert to lightning pen... any chance you were mistaken on this?

[placid plinth]

Anyways a chance. Pretty sure I looked at the code for that one. It's possible that it was changed on another branch. It's also possible that the conversion happens after where I saw it.

[raven crow]

@placid plinth hi mike ! is me again after 1 year almost

"Please change the affix: "Chance To Create An Aftershock Under A Nearby Enemy On Melee Attack" to be "Whenever you hit an enemy with a melee attack, you have a chance to create an aftershock under that enemy.""

this has been finally changed or not yet?

[crude plover]

It has not been changed.

[raven crow]

sad

why

[placid plinth]

Because you can hit many times with a single melee attack and doing so would require a dramatic reduction of the chance to trigger. This would mean fast attacking abilities which hit few enemies like swipe would roughly maintain their current trigger rate while slower, high mana cost skills would be hit pretty hard with the nerf bat.

[raven crow]

cant be implemented to at least maul passive point via werebear form ? like while being in werebear form upheveal can trigger aftershocks, but the aftershock cant hit the same enemie twice ? for avoid shotguns effect, or without breaking any other skills that use aftershock

[placid plinth]

Can do all sorts of things. If you want us to consider implementing something, you can make a suggestion in #suggestions . That's a completely different node/affix though. You're asking for x% chance to cast upheaval when maul hits an enemy. Feels like the chance would have to be pretty low in general.

Nothing asked for in this channel gets logged.

[raven crow]

oke, will try again next season or year. ty for reply tho

[placid plinth]

I don't understand why you don't want to try now.

[raven crow]

because i tried last year, and nothing changed. lul

[placid plinth]

OK, I just checked and last time you asked, I told you that we wouldn't consider it unless you put it in #suggestions . I can't find anything from you in that channel. I'm sorry if I haven't been clear enough. Asking me about it here doesn't count as asking for it. It has to go in #suggestions in order to be considered.

[raven crow]

fuk, i thought i posted it there

[placid plinth]

Just a note for me in a year from now. It's still not there.

[forest bluff]

does the aftershock triggered by melee attacks still receive brutality bonus?

[broken sable]

my lightning blast do x5 more dmg in close range , ima 30 minutes looking on every skill tree node , and cant realize why, some1 help pls

[strange shoal]

Why are their broken key prophecies? They don't seem to do anything according to my extensive 1 result google search - also why do arena key prophecies get so many more as a reward compared to normal dungeons?

[final cave]

You won't find info about broken key prophecy here. It is too closely held a secret.

It is like KFC recipe

Someone somewhere says they know but is it really the thing? Do the groles even know what the keys do?

[strange shoal]

Lol fair enough! I did see it was mentioned as an easter egg too. I just corrupted a dagger which I had re-rolled (did about 40) had a max -6 mana cost for det arrow, hit max rolls and it somehow updated everything to max but reverted -6 to -3 (yes reported a bug)

my mate just said it might be coded in a way where the 'max roll' corruption might consider -6 worse than -3! can any dev comment on that? on the dagger it's shown as -6 to -3, if thats the case can you hop on and revert my dagger please 🙂

[harsh sky]

Does bladestorm's blade detonation get converted if bladestorm is converted? Do the caltrops and shadow daggers they create get converted?

[pine dome]

That happen to every negative values rolls
The value of an affix is coded from 0 to 256

0 gives the small value (here because it's negative the smallest it - 6)

256 gives the biggest value (here - 3)

When the corruption set everything to max, everything goes to 256 > you get -3.
It is technically the max roll of that affix

[strange shoal]

Technically? Lol! Technically it junked my ring as you can't play the skill without -6 on each dagger so they should really consider some kind of work around for that because maximum generally means "best" and -3 is most definitely not the best 😛

[pine dome]

You know the drill
#suggestions

[bold island]

is using ahk to auto hold down buttons bannable?

[final cave]

#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

if you need a more specific answer about terms of service, mike would tell you to contact support at support.lastepoch.com

[fervent girder]

This is bad code BTW,nihilis max rolls 20% ward health loss which is bad not good ,same way ocearon gives 2%less damage and not 4% an oversight call it damm shame its maybe gonna take months for it or never to be changed.

[foggy turret]

I could fix that in 5 min as a dev

[pine dome]

You know the drill
#suggestions

Note that I agree with you

[fervent girder]

Thanks already was posted

[lone sonnet]

Hello is the the passive in the VK Anomaly (Quicksand) bugged? or working as intended?

[lunar parcel]

#❔┃ask-the-community message

[broken sparrow]

Create a rule for an Item that has 2x T7 Suffixes with random prefixes. Only T7 suffixes in an instant without clicking on all suffixes in the affix table. Because if you try to click on all suffixes, you need to know which affixes are actually suffixes.

[near abyss]

When you have a skill "Damage increased by wielding a dagger" let's say 100%. Since you get this "generaL" increase does it actually give 200% because it increase both physical damage and melee damage for a skill that has both Physical And Melee tags

[crude plover]

No

[broken sparrow]

The Woven Tree Node "Rewritten Reality (or any else) which excludes rewards on Echos, say "Echoes you discover". But does this count for echos that I place by Cemetries - like shrine maps - too? An example: I block keys, glyph, gold, experience for my "discovered" echos, there is a high chance for shrine maps (woven) to have runes as a reward type and a 0% chance to have keys, glyph, gold, xp?

[scenic elbow]

Still having Internet and Cnnection problems ... can someone help me ? any easy fixes I can do without destroying everything ?

[crude plover]

Try the things listed here https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1230894608406413412

[crimson depot]

I there any chance COF can get prophecies for altars???

[broken sparrow]

guess no, since they are corrupted and uniquie drop by omens. would make this kind of random encounter useless

[crimson depot]

so what, they added weaver idols eventually. Maybe the have COF rank effect them? Anything that would help would be nice.

[broken sparrow]

channel feedback and suggestion

[weak ridge]

Do all subskills convert their damage if the respected skill is converted to a different type? for example does maelstrom's tsunami subskill become physical/necrotic if maelstrom is converted to physical/necrotic?

[crude plover]

Case by case, some do some don't

Not sure about tsunami

[coral moss]

Good example is shield throw's lava burst. Until the previous patch lava burst would have stayed fire. Even when shield throw itself was converted to void. But now it was updated to convert together with shield throw.

[pine dome]

It is going toward "every converts"
Tsunami does convert to physical
I haven't tested necrotic

I would assume it does

[broken sparrow]

testing example: try to convert maelstrom to physical with basic items which grants freeze rate multipliert, then tsunami will freeze enemies. if not, its physical. but yeah a tooltip add would be nice

[edgy shell]

I've been told bugged (not by EHG):

Cycle of Decay in Anomaly doesn't work at all, and Quicksand is roughly 10x as strong as the description claims (multiple players have been reporting these nodes as bugged for over a year now; not mentioned anywhere in any patch notes 🙃)

[tame smelt]

will we see an announcement about winners of void pets today?

[long merlin]

In terms of data...
Do you know the percentage or actual number of CRITS for temporal sanctum crafts?

I would be very interested how much crits there actually are when crafting lp2+ items 🙂

[crude plover]

https://lastepoch.tunklab.com/eternity-cache

[long merlin]

Didn't know there are stats for this aswell, but like a real number, that happened to the palyers since the start of S4 or something, some muffin data...^^

[broken sparrow]

If I imprint 2x the same Woven Map in Tree, do I get the doubled chance to spawn them in my echo-web?

[fading knot]

For lethal concentration, does the minion poison leech occur for the duration of the poison?

[placid plinth]

The leech happens when the damage happens.

[placid plinth]

I would assume so but you asking is making me question it.

[placid plinth]

no, we don't have that data tracked

[placid plinth]

I hope so. I'm really not sure when that info will go out. Might take some time to get everything together.

Edit: looks like not today

[pine chasm]

We've been told in the past that they both add their weight to the pool, so it gets doubled weighting. It's similar to doubled chance, but not exactly the same.

[fervent girder]

Well bina made a video that having same echo doesn't do anything really,would be nice if there was a definite answer to this. His info based on tunklabs.

[pine chasm]

This is the dev response I was referencing above:
#👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs message

[long merlin]

oh btw...
watched the stream from friday... what did you do with your gear Mike? 😂 👉

Corruption is hella fun! 😁❤️‍🔥
Glad you enjoy it too

[placid plinth]

When the effect happens the dots get a speed multiplier that basically makes those dots move through time faster. I checked it by artificially cranking up the total duration of a dot and applying it then speeding it up with anomaly. It's getting the correct time multiplier and when I checked how fast it was going against a stopwatch, it was behaving correctly.

It's possible that the damage calculations are bahaving odd or something but the node appears to me to be working exactly as expected and written.

Edit: Cycle of Decay however doesn't look like it is resetting the percentage of total damage dealt by the dot when the timer resets so the total damage the dot does is not increased by cycle of decay.

[fervent girder]

This is old info though I agree it makes sense what he says but now doesn't seem to be the case that much

[fading knot]

so, I'll take that as the leech occurs on each damage tick of the poison done by the minion, until expiration 🙂 thanks

[placid plinth]

If you think it's bugged, please make an in game bug report with [F8]

[karmic palm]

Question, I am a warlock, and I have a target i am fighting; If I have applied a stack or several stacks of bleeds or poison or whatever other damaging ailment on my target and I then use profane veil with the node that gives me more global DMG. Will the ailments i applied before veiling do more DMG while I stay inside the veil or are they snapshotted and calculated before? As in, is the dmg dynamic?

[strange kestrel]

I hope the Sentinel gets updated for next season. I'd love to play as a shieldbearer, but I hate having to play as the Minions

[placid plinth]

I think the foundational way to think about this is if you shoot a fireball and while it is in the air you get a damage buff, would you expect that fireball to update mid flight? Hopefully not, because it won't.

Ailments are the same, once they have been applied, becoming better at applying an ailment doesn't update existing ones on an enemy.

[karmic palm]

Damn uhmmm. It makes sense. However, in the case of, lets say, a more warlock classic, fissure, if i put my fissure down then i do that, will it not deal more dmg still? otherwise i can see how there are not many situations where you will find this global dmg useful other than within doing damage with the veil itseld and the little balls, forgot the name

[placid plinth]

Neat, if you'd like more than just me to read that, please add it to #suggestions

[weak ridge]

Do values on idols mods get rounded when boosted by idol altars or do they have decimals?

[flint bloom]

Depends on the affix, but most numbers are decimals and are just rounded only visually

[strange shoal]

Hiya - on wings of discord do the double stats work on weaver enchants or just base idol stats - also the idol layouts say it increases the stats by 20% does the affect double the total value post extra %?

[lone sonnet]

tyvm for the reply and testing sir ❤️

[harsh sky]

Hi Mike, is there a corruption level the team is balancing around when designing? We've heard about 300 corr being mentioned, is it true/still true or has there been any changes now that we're approaching season 5?

[foggy hull]

Basically the same answer as Mike said for Ailments. The fissure itself & Flame Whips for instance won't. Anything that will re-apply or overwrite itself such as Witchfire can get the new bonus for its duration.

[placid plinth]

That oversimplification came from a really unfortunate phrasing I said on stream like 2? years ago. I have corrected it dozens of times but it never sticks. 300 is a corruption point that we do consider when looking at balance. We also consider the whole rest of the spectrum of levels and corruption, from lvl 1 to thousands of corruption. I still think that 300 is a reasonable point for people to consider a thoughtful homebrew build successful. It's also the point that some of the last woven echoes open up and you're looking at Aberroth.

[placid plinth]

It's only "double" if you have no other sources of "increased effect of stats" for your idols. It should follow the normal phrasing for additive and multiplicative combinations of stats. If 2 things say "increased" they are additive with each other. If either and/or both say "more" then they are multiplicative with each other.

[strange shoal]

Wait, so if I use a idol layout of any kind that adds an increase of stats then the stat on wings of discord won't work? Sorry we both know I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed lol

[harsh sky]

Thanks for clarifying! I did hear some mentions that it was a misunderstanding/taken out of context but couldn't trace the source, hence me opening with if it was true at all. Glad I can finally refer to something when this comes up again.

Now that we're getting a new uber-level boss soon with the expansion (season 6?), changing uber-level from a single "final target" to a "series" of enemies, are there are shift in balancing targets? I.e., balancing power-level around reaching uber-viable levels.

[placid plinth]

It's just that 100% increased isn't necessarily "double" if you have other sources of increased.

start with 100 health
100% increased = 200 health = double

start with 100 health
already have 20% increased to 120
add in 100% increased takes you to 220 because the 100 and 20 are additive and end up just being 120 together. 220 is not double 120.

[strange shoal]

Oh sorry haha - ok so i'll get 100% of idol effect from Wings then the layout say 20% is on top of the original idol stats, not the combination?

[placid plinth]

well no because they will still be encapsulated by that spectrum that we already consider

[placid plinth]

if they both say "increased" you add the numbers together and then apply them.

if any say "more" then you calculate them individually.

base x (1 + increased_1 + increased_2 + increased_3...) x (1 + more_1) x (1 + more_2) x (1 + more_3)...

[strange shoal]

ok sweet! and last question - the weaver enchants - they do not count for wings?

[placid plinth]

I would have to test it to be sure but I don't see why not.

[strange shoal]

oh wicked thanks have some awesome enchants on this new alts stuff so if they count then ;o - thanks for your help!

[harsh sky]

So basically, no change in the spectrum of balancing consideration?

How does the team design around the increasing power levels? I wasn't there pre-season 2, but afaik the guaranteed slam added a lot to the average power level of characters. This season, the idol altars are basically "free" stats on a completely new slot that wasn't there on previous seasons, and corruption also adds a lot of affixes where not previously accessible.

Does the team design to keep power levels similar by holding back on another area, or do you let the power grows as long as it still falls within a certain acceptable range?

[crude plover]

They do

@strange shoal

[placid plinth]

This is a really hard question to answer with specifics because reasons...

Each season we look at the various tiers of content available and consider each for balancing power levels. As more player power is granted in one category, several actions can potentially be taken in tandem. Increasing difficulty, reducing player power in other areas or adding new challenges come to mind as common options. All of which happened in Season 4. There is some amount of power creep to be expected. The trick is keeping it creeping instead of sprinting.

[karmic palm]

Do sub skills like shade eruption scale with more damage multiplier in the skill tree that proc them? As in, more dmg multipliers that affect infernal shade, affect the explosion?

[crude plover]

Generally yes

For example the wildfires node would give shade eruption more damage

[harsh sky]

How do Chaos Bolts work?

Looking at it on LEtools, it seems to shoot 4 projectiles with 100% Added Damage Effectiveness, and there's also an impact explosion at 100% ADE. Does it mean it will hit a target for 100% ADE, then explode dealing another 100% ADE?

Can all 4 projectiles shotgun the same target?
Can a target be hit by both a projectile's damage and its explosion damage?
Can a target be hit by multiple explosion damage?

For the flay node Chaos Rip, does it release 4 Chaos Bolts per 100 mana (the standard number of CB per cast if cast manually), or is it 1 singular Chaos Bolt per 100 mana (so 1/4th a manual CB cast)?

[crude plover]

Chaos bolts can shotgun, but the projectiles themselves do no damage, just the explosions. If you actually click on the "chaos bolts" subskill you'll see it actually doesn't do any damage but triggers the same explosion skill that the main "chaos bolts" skill triggers.

Chaos rip 0.5% chance to trigger 1 chaos bolt (not bolts) per 1 mana per point. So for example at 200 max mana you'll always trigger 2 bolts. Not two casts of chaos bolts, but two individual chaos bolt skills. As in two projectiles and two explosions.

[harsh sky]

Thanks! ❤️

[valid marlin]

Would you say, then, that 300C isn't particularly special when it comes to EHGs approach to design?

[signal sage]

if im using Bhuldars wrath 2h mace and Natural wrath idol will earthquake be fire or electric?

[placid plinth]

if earthquake has both fire and lightning conversions, fire wins.

[placid plinth]

I don't think that there are any individual corruption points that are particularly special at all.

300 is probably more special than 5000 but no more special than 100 or 0 or 500 or a host of others.

[placid plinth]

I think the phrase "EHG primarily balances around corruption ___" can't be completed accurately.

[signal sage]

dang trying to figure out a way to cast EQ on maul in werebear form but want to keep it fully electric and idk how to keep stacks up in werebear form to consistantly rely on naturals wrath idol...(gears turning)

[deep moss]

I guess I have to learn how to read because I accidentally created SCF character and I just wanted to have a solo experience. I should've taken the SAF option. Now I am pretty sad as I cannot equip my alt with any gear I found. Could this be possible in the future to migrate not just character but it's stash aswell? If not, what would be the reason?

[placid plinth]

It's something that we've had on the todo list for a while. The main issue is that it opens up the potential for very bloated data in extreme cases. The migrated stash would have to sit as a remove only tab. Currently we don't have a clean way of doing this.

If you'd like us to consider taking another crack at it, please let us know in #suggestions.

[deep moss]

Thanks for the clarification. Would you mind making an exception in my case and helping me transfer everything? I can even show you that I only have one character this season so far, maybe empty stash in SAF could make it easier somehow, idk. I understand if that's simply not possible at this time.

[placid plinth]

I'm sorry but we don't have the process in place to make it happen and manual direct manipulation of the database scares me more than any movie monster. You can try contacting support but I don't think we do that sort of thing.

!support

[fiery lily]

Need a hand? Just head on down to https://support.lastepoch.com/ for support articles or to reach out to us directly.

[deep moss]

Sure thing. Your words are enough for me, I don't need to contact support. I'm a bit forced to play this one char because I don't want to lose all my progress to play different class. Lesson learned the hard way.

[placid plinth]

you can move the character into SAF, you'll just only be able to bring 1 inventory worth of stuff with you.

[deep moss]

what about timelines, corruption, woven tree, CoF, etc.?

[placid plinth]

pretty sure that all comes over too but I'm not 100% sure. Things like CoF progress have to merge because otherwise you wouldn't be able to equip most of your gear.

[void solar]

Yeah factions are part of the stash. Example for a Season ending character transferred to Legacy, if the Season faction rank was higher, you need to select that Season in the upper left part of the Legacy stash and then use the merge stash button to get access to the higher Season rank https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1394658973612904478/1394659141829791846/image.png?ex=69e8c10a&is=69e76f8a&hm=a79e0d975ca8461fa7628b985e5710942d92bef0ef735b4041241958d033981c&

[placid plinth]

Does the same thing happen for SCF to SAF though?

[void solar]

I'm not sure. I can try making a SCF character this evening after work and testing it

[placid plinth]

you don't have to do that at all.

[crude plover]

Is letting a skill shotgun some kind of flag that exists or is splitting it into lots of individual skill casts the only way to make things shotgun? Like for example chaos bolts and frost claw are both lots of individual skills. Are they like that so you can stagger the casts for better visual feedback or is there some kind of limitation?

[placid plinth]

We have a few different ways of doing each for different situations. In general we have something called a shared hit detector that allows multiple objects to share a single list of all the things they have hit. The typical behavior is such that each thing only hits each thing once. We do have a tickbox that can be ticked on a thing that can hit things to prevent it from using a shared hit detector which means that it can always hit independently.

[crude plover]

Yeah okay that's what I would've assumed otherwise things like giant slayer in multishot would have to make it cast like 20 single arrow sub-skills every cast or something lol, thanks for the detailed answer!

[placid plinth]

it actually does make like 20 single arrow sub skills

[fading knot]

Can woven echoes spawn with a tomb?

[strange shoal]

With idols and potential adaptive damage theres one that converts shurikens to lighting and adds lightning dmg, this idol is paired with "throwing physical" specifically - does that physical become lightning or is it just one of those pointless idol pairings? lol

[fervent girder]

If you talking about the suffix ,no it wont convert , that affix only applies to shurikens if they would still be physical,if they are fully converted then it doesn't do anything for you,?its the same if you get increased physical throwing damage on your body armor I think it wouldn't do anything for shurikens if they are fully lightning converted. There should be a throwing suffix general if you ask me to pair it with the flat lightning prefix that way its more useful.

[strange shoal]

Thanks, kinda lame you can use armor affix or 1 idol and then all the potential cool additions become pointless - I'll just go play umbral+flow and do 500m-1B 1 shots instead lmao

[void solar]

I don't believe so, but there are woven echoes that have an idol altar at the end like the Tombs side area: Cemetery of Reweaving, Sepulchre of the Lost, and Cenotaph of Worlds. The idol altars in these also have more uses than the Tombs one.

[fading knot]

I guess the important question here, do weaver tree nodes that apply to tombs and cemeteries apply to the subareas in those echoes? So as you said: Cemetary of reweaving, Sepulchre of the Lost, and Cenotaph of Worlds. That would be great if so!. Mike pls give me your wisdom

[void solar]

Oh sorry, I thought you were looking for additional sources of the idol altars that are at the end of the Tombs side areas.

If you're asking if a Weaver tree node like Burial Grounds that gives increased pack size in Tombs and Cemeteries also works on the woven echoes like Cemetery of Reweaving, I don't know. But this is a good channel to ask in!

[kindred night]

hello, quick question about game mechanics cause i can't find a proper answer: does "increased stun duration" work on bosses?

[fading knot]

Sorry I could have been clearer 🙂 yeah I'm just looking for max tombs, and that could be a very interesting way to do it

unrelated question, can one item with 2 different set shards count toward two different set bonuses?

[void solar]

You can only craft on a single Reforged Set shard per item. So no.

[placid plinth]

Technically yes but with their incredibly short stun duration modifiers it won't have much effect at all.

[native path]

Can we have the transfer button put everything from our inventory into the stash ?

[pine dome]

#suggestions

Technically, a lot of things are possibles
But if you want them to be considered, that's where you want to drop them

[strange shoal]

Hiya there is a corruption for weapons "critical strike multiplier xx%" and under it same but "vs frozen enemys" - would this mean if it's 25 and 25 then vs frozen lads its 50%?

[crude plover]

yes

[strange shoal]

Flipping fantastic, appreciate you. Thanks!

[crimson depot]

Is there any way to remove particles from skill effect, specially the ones that block ground effect, like smoke bomb.
You keep adding worthless effect on skills which kills FPS and makes it impossible to see the ground effects that one shot you.

[languid zenith]

Only thing you can do is lower your settings to help with the FPS dropping but there is no way to remove the smoke from Smoke Bomb or similar skills as of now.

[crimson depot]

Is not just that, you can't see the homing black holes on the ground, or the bloot orbs that chase you. I mean atleast change their color so you can see them.

[crude plover]

#feedback

[timid fjord]

Mike have you considered doing short 5 or 10 minute segment during friday livestream where you show discord feedback/suggestion channel and give your personal take on some of the new posts there, bringing more awareness to the channels.
(though I could also see another 300 corruption problem arising from it where people misunderstand your takes or take them as official EHG reply)

[boreal goblet]

is it normal that pebbles collar reforged swaps it from cold to fire, and the sash reforged swaps it from fire to cold? It seems like a bug but I'm not sure if it is (more just asking about dev direction)

[crude plover]

Swaps what?

Neither should be converting or swapping anything

[boreal goblet]

the "melee fire damage for minion" becomes "melee cold damage for minion" and vice versa. (it changes that when you reforge it)

[crude plover]

Ah I see what you mean, yeah I'd assume that's a mix up for sure

[near abyss]

The increase weaver will effect on the Idol Altars seems not working. Anyone aware of this?

[crude plover]

yes

[tender geode]

If I convert Decoy to Cold from Fire and global Cold damage is sigificantly higher than Fire, should I not see an increase in the DPS mouseover estimate? It's exactly the same pre / post conversion. No way to tell during combat.

[crude plover]

Try it on the dummies by the arena

should be easy to tell

[tender geode]

He's nowhere near high enough level to get to it. Why aren't there dummies in the early acts? Unless I'm wrong, the Arena is in Act 7 (?)

[crude plover]

Yeah something like that

I can test it myself later

[tender geode]

ok thanks. I could swear there used to be a dummy in the Council Chambers.

[crude plover]

Nah there used to be one in end of time but they removed it with 0.9.x

[tender geode]

That's probably what I was thinking. I don't understand why they aren't in the major hubs.

[void solar]

As Cyborgwars mentioned, the training dummies were removed from towns somewhere around 0.9, which was when multiplayer was introduced and using Skills in towns was turned off:

Towns: Skills are not able to be used in towns in preparation of future town functionality. In a future update, town zones will also feature players that are not in your party
https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/the-convergence-update-beta-0-9-patch-notes/51975#heading--multiplayer

[pine chasm]

There was one in there, but it was removed due to the towns stuff

[odd hinge]

Hey, sorry if you've already answered this before, but regarding the Confluence of Oblivion farming method that involves resetting the Echo Web, will it be fixed soon? The drop rate of Confluence items doesn't seem to be taking distance into account. I wanted to know because I need to farm items for my Warpath, but first I wanted to farm items for another character. I'm afraid you'll fix the bug and I won't be able to farm before then, so I wanted to know if I should farm now or later

I don't even know if this is a bug or if Confluence really doesn't take distance into account.

But if there's anything about nerfing this method in the near future, I'd like to know

[crude plover]

Are you talking about confluence of oblivions drop rate or the items you get from it?

[odd hinge]

I want to know if there will be any changes to this method of resetting Echo Web and farming Confluence of Oblivion, whether in the drop rate or the spawn rate of the imprint or something similar

in the near future

[placid plinth]

I'm sorry but I don't have any insight on potential upcoming fix timelines available here. All I can say for sure is that it's not in the 1.4.5 patch notes.

[harsh sky]

was there any limit on the number of tiers an affix can gain per empower in nemesis?

[placid plinth]

took a quick look to see if I could find it quick but I'm not sure. I expect it probably does because LP has a cap of 3 per.

[violet condor]

Hello ! Sorry if it was already asked but is there any plans to fix "+ All attribute if 7 non-idol items are equipped" effect from corruption to add attributes instead of substracting them 🫠 ?

Thanks

[flint bloom]

if you have submitted a bug report, yes

[violet condor]

I did 🙏

[deep moss]

Does the latest patch affect existing 2x1/1x2 idols or only new ones found?

[edgy shell]

It's retroactive / applies to existing ones. Source: logged in and looked at idols in stash.

[placid plinth]

all item updates are retroactive

[ionic spoke]

Hi devs - I’m building a community build analyzer and simulator for Last Epoch (epochforge.gg) focused on DPS simulation, crafting probability, and meta analytics. Is there an official or sanctioned way for community tool developers to access game data (items, affixes, skills, passives), either through an API, data export, or a formal request process? If not, is there a preferred channel for tool developers to coordinate with EHG on data access and patch sync? Happy to share details about the project if useful. Thanks.

[placid plinth]

The only thing we do for some sites is give a build of the game a few days before a major patch. I'm not sure who coordinates that. Best way to get in touch with the right person would be to contact support and they can connect you.

We don't have any sort of game data API or export. Any site or tool that is using that information has obtained it themselves.

!support

[fiery lily]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[lapis lagoon]

Hello guys, any help with: problem with log in into game?

[crude plover]

Not in this channel. You can try the things listed in this thread or contact support:
https://discord.com/channels/368953963267096586/1230894608406413412

!support

[fiery lily]

Let's work together to get it sorted! We've support articles and a contact form here: https://support.lastepoch.com/.

[karmic palm]

Hello, Two questions about torment.

First would be, When using Wheel of torment. If i cast fissure and also cast soul feast, are these two skills creating a different type of torment that is going to be overwriting each other? Or are they the same torment?

Second, and more importantly, What nodes in the fissure apply to torment?. because i can see it's an ailment, so anything that is not on hit that mentions more damage for fissure, should work for torment right?.

[unique imp]

is there a way to helpfully troubleshoot [LE-51] or [LE-52] errors? They've been keeping me out of the game for days at a time it seems

[pine chasm]

Yes, they overwrite each other.

Everything in fissure that specifically says it applies to torment applies to torment from all sources. Torments applied by the fissure get everything from fissure that is applicable. Torments applied by soul feast I think get applicable stuff from soul feast (which is not much).

[pulsar vortex]

Do blessings the impact drop rates i.e increase amulets effect boss drops? like Nihilis etc

[maiden brook]

No they don't affect uniques as a whole

[pulsar vortex]

oh

[strange shoal]

How long before a new season do you generally announce the date estimate for it? I can't recall when season 4 was mentioned with a date during season 3

[valid marlin]

What?? I thought they effected all world drops, including uniques

[fervent girder]

They don't affect any boss drops

[valid marlin]

Yes I know. They said they didn't affect uniques as a whole, which I didnt think was correct

[void solar]

Recent examples:
Season 4 was announced on Feb 20 Dec 25 and released on Mar 26. edit: announcement was on Dec 25 and trailer was on Feb 20.
Season 3 was announced on Jul 25 Jun 27 and released on Aug 21. edit: announcement was on Jun 27 and trailer was on Jul 25.

[pine chasm]

They do, they just only apply to random drops

[void solar]

Actually, looking into it more, I think I was off. Those dates I used were based on when they did a trailer post. But there was an announcement earlier than that.

[strange shoal]

All good I was just curious I couldnt remember probably could have googled haha! Thank you regardless - just holding out for hope not to many months before next season as this ones rip haha

[void solar]

Like here's the Season 3 announcement on Jun 27 https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/season-3-release-date-announcement/78359 and they did a trailer on Jul 25 https://forum.lastepoch.com/t/last-epoch-official-trailer-season-3-beneath-ancient-skies/78489 for the Aug 21 release

[void solar]

Yeah hopefully. Season 2 to 3 was better. Season 2 started April 2025 and Season 3 started August 2025. About 4 months between.

[simple dagger]

Enchant Weapon currently has a bug where its glow effect doesn't time out properly if you go through an area transition or use Teleport while it's active. The glow effects stack up and become blindingly bright. I've reported this bug multiple times, and there's been several patches, but the bug is still not fixed. Can I get an estimate on when I can expect the fix? It's making it pretty annoying to play Spellblade.

[pine dome]

You won't get any infos regarding bugs here.
Wait and see

[placid plinth]

I've found your reports, doesn't look like they are assigned out at the moment so no ETA.

[simple dagger]

Thanks for letting me know.

[frank panther]

the duality of #👨┃ask-the-devs-not-support-no-bugs

[final cave]

There were some prior issues experienced by Polish players related to these error codes. Search the Discord and you might find the thread

[violet condor]

Is there an ETA about fixing bugged corruption effects ?

I've hit 2 top-tier corruption effects last 24h that are in fact bricking my build, I dont even want to corrupt anymore. And corruption is kinda the center of S4 feature. Getting +12 all attributes but having -12 all attributes in reality, or having +190 endurance Threshold but also -190% Physical damage for no reason is just pure non-sense.

I've reported it of course but with a screenshot it's hard to show.

[harsh sky]

Hi Mike, how does the team feel about how the corrupted attributes are doing this season so far?

[sharp pivot]

Are the floor dots from the Omen pinnacle fight intended to not end when they die, it's really annoying to have like half the floor covered in the fire pools for the entire second phase

[flint bloom]

Well they arent from the omens. But yes its intended. Your placement of them is part of the fight

[tender geode]

Ha, I see extra Wolves still disappear when changing zones (using the Claw amulet). At least the icon changes to Summon Wolf.

[pine dome]

Please report bug in game by pressing f8
Not in the discord channel called "not support no bugs"

[tender geode]

I've reported that several times in the past.

Along with other Wolf related bugs and glitches.

[pine dome]

Than, all we have to do is to wait

[tender geode]

Well, honestly and I mean this with no snarkiness intended, considering how long it's been an issue and it's not a show-stopper, I've given up. But it's also very annoying when using Tyrant's Skull since you have to unequip it to get your max wolves back, and you lose the +1 to Minion Skills.

[timid fjord]

🤔 isn't that what causes the problem. when wolves get extra skill point they reset the next area.
like during leveling it happens a lot since you keep getting new skill levels

[tender geode]

Yes, that is correct. The Wolves get un-summoned when adding any skill or passive that impacts them, even mid-zone. My theory is that when changing zones LE doesn't consider The Claw/Fang when re-summoning Wolves. There might also be a similar issue with Tyrant's Skull. In the past (at least a year ago, probably longer) the problem with extra wolves disappearing during transitioning did not occur.

I take it back. They aren't unsummoning after adding a passive point that impacts them. I'm sure that used to happen.

[placid plinth]

As an initial version, awesome. Do they need some adjusting to make them fit into gearing as I would hope? yea.

[placid plinth]

Looks like it's in repro testing and is not being consistent.

[violet condor]

So it's not a random bug ? Some people do get the +12 all attribute without downside ? Or get +190 Endurance Treshold without getting their damage cut in half ?

[placid plinth]

I don't know what you mean by "not a random bug" but we are investigating it.

[violet condor]

Sorry I meant to say "so it's a random bug" which makes the whole thing even more mysterious. Especially the T7 "Endurance Threshold" corruption on belt halving all my damage, that one I would love to have the explanation in the code to understand why it happenned 😄

[tender geode]

Just fyi, I submitted bug reports for both Feline Bond and the Summon Wolf -> Canine Agility node. Putting points in either of them does not change the Minion Dodge Rating in the minion tab of the stat sheet. I tried unsummoning / resummoning but no luck.

[placid plinth]

since those affect companion/wolf dodge rating and not minion dodge rating, it makes sense that they don't show up in the character sheet. If you summon a thorn totem, that wouldn't get the bonus so it doesn't make sense to have that bonus displayed for all minions.

[tender geode]

Okay, that makes sense, but forgive the potentially dumb questions, but then why display any minion dodge rating at all, and not just call it "Companion Dodge Rating"?

[placid plinth]

There are affixes which do minion dodge rating.
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes/AAwdgjEA

[tender geode]

Thanks. Yes, I use the affixes. I am still a little confused. So the minions affixes affect the displayed stat, but passives and nodes don't? But they do affect the actual dodge rating of the wolves?

[placid plinth]

The character sheet displays specific individual properties. Some properties are a little on the niche side and don't have an entry in the character sheet. Properties that aren't displayed in the character sheet still work.

So since minion dodge rating is a common property, it is displayed in the character sheet.

When you summon your wolf it has its dodge rating calculated from all applicable sources. Increased minion dodge rating, increased companion dodge rating and increased wolf dodge rating.

[tender geode]

Are there non-companion minions that do benefit from Dodge? Not totems of course, but I can't think of any off the top of my head. I haven't booted up LE in a whlile.

Just trying to fully understand this so I can properly adjust my calculator 🙂

[placid plinth]

I'm not sure I understand the question because I think the answer is just yes, all of them.

[crude plover]

(if you can give them dodge rating, which you can using things like julra gloves)

[tender geode]

So if no non-companion minions can't get Dodge why not call the stat Companion Dodge Rating?

[timid fjord]

I think there is disconnect between the two of you.
totems can gain dodge rating from minion dodge rating but not from companion dodge rating that feline bond passive node gives.
I think fargol may have misunderstood Mike saying totems can't benefit from companion dodge as they cannot benefit from any dodge at all
maybe?

[crude plover]

Non companions can get dodge

[tender geode]

Whoa, so that includes totems?

[crude plover]

Why not

[placid plinth]

if it can be hit, it can dodge

[crude plover]

Totems be bobbing and weaving. Feet firmly planted

[tender geode]

Not totems. I uncommned my wolves and put Throrn Totems out there. Never saw "Dodge" above them and they died really fast, By my calculations they should have 114% dodge chance, or 85% hard cap.

Oops, unsummoned ...

[crude plover]

Your dodge calculation is wrong

[tender geode]

Using DodgeChance= DodgeRating/((DodgeRating+(AreaLevel∗10)))

[crude plover]

Dodge asymptotes to 85%, it's impossible for it to get to above 85% to hard cap

[tender geode]

Dodge rating is 272 on level 18. And my wolves Dodge a lot.

[crude plover]

No

That's the formula

X is dodge rating and a is area level

[tender geode]

Yes. I know the hard cap. I have it in my calulations.

[placid plinth]

Where is the base dodge rating for your totems coming from?

[tender geode]

I cannot possibly figure out how to get that in a spreadsheet.

[placid plinth]

you'd have to type it in

[tender geode]

Wait ... are you telling the Minion Dodge Rating does not apply to Totems?

[crude plover]

Spreadsheet programs support that kinda stuff, shouldn't be too bad

[placid plinth]

I'm saying that 100% increased minion dodge rating increases their dodge rating and if they have 0 base dodge rating, 0 increased 100% is still 0. So I'm wondering where their base dodge rating is coming from.

For example, do you have this affix on your gear anywhere?
https://www.lastepochtools.com/db/prefixes/AAwdgjEA

[tender geode]

Yes. I use them on several pieces of gear.

[placid plinth]

great, then your totems should be able to dodge

[tender geode]

I

[lusty pagoda]

Is there a way to Loot Filter only items with a T7 suffix, or search only items with a T7 suffix?'

[crude plover]

(they won't have 85% dodge chance, you need to use the right formula)

[placid plinth]

I think you have to select them all from the list individually.

[tender geode]

I am reasonably certain they are not. And I know my calculation is very rough (I've seen the actual monstrosity in the Guide) but how does that explain my Wolves dodging left and right but never the totems? As an aside, I always make sure my Minion Dodge Rating is way above the minimum needed to get at least close to 85%.

[crude plover]

I doubt either are close to 85% but regardless your wolves might be getting additional dodge from their tree like from the canine agility node for example

Which wouldn't affect the totems

[tender geode]

Yes, they are. But again, why aren't the Totems at least dodging occasionally via the Affixes?

[crude plover]

They likely are. But their dodge is probably so low their dodge chance is probably like 10%

I wouldn't know without more details

[tender geode]

What else would you need to know from me?

[crude plover]

If you're playing online you can give me your profile name and I can look it up

If you press H in game it'll be in the top left of the window that opens

[tender geode]

I generally don't play Online.

[crude plover]

Only other way would be manually importing it into the let build planner
https://www.lastepochtools.com/planner/

You can see the import option on the left

[pine chasm]

All totems have the stat "100% less dodge rating", so even if you give them dodge, they won't have any dodge rating

[crude plover]

Oh toast to the rescue

Totems don't bob and weave rip

[timid fjord]

also dodge value could never be higher than 85% even at 100k raw dodge your dodge would be 84.something%, the formula is made that way

[placid plinth]

yea, I just tested it and totems can't dodge, sorry

[lusty pagoda]

Oh good call, I can look up all the suffixes and just select those for my Loot Filter rule. I don't think there's a way to do it in search of stash.

[tender geode]

Yes, I know that. I mentioned that before.

oops sorry, replied to the wrong person ...

And that's mekes me feel at least a little less stupid and clears that up.

[crude plover]

Totems have an entry in the game guide but it doesn't mention that they can't dodge x). time to head to #suggestions