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tardy bison
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but only on bosses

torpid zinc
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Oo a ward build. I went with block/armor/endurance for sentinel, dodge/endurance/glancing for rogue, and I’m trying to break into ward on my primalist

tardy bison
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it does no dmg but can apply frailty / debuffs, I use a ladle

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it's not pure ward but there's nothing else to do while your reflect ticks kill so why not lol

torpid zinc
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Yeah, reflect sounds fun. I’ll look into it. I had a thorns build in D4 once on my barbarian, but the open world multiplayer stuff was silly because nothing would hit me with all the other players around

tardy bison
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see nothing hits you, it applies reflect if they look at you

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you can literally afk arena echoes, nothing will reach you to hit you

torpid zinc
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Haha sounds neat. It kind of makes me think of that old hammerdin build where you sit at the start of the arena and just spam it to clear 5 screens away

tardy bison
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it's fun, try it before they nerf/ delete it

torpid zinc
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For sure. I thought I saw an announcement about some kind of expansion for LE?

tardy bison
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it's coming much later than new season, which should be december-january time frame

torpid zinc
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Looking forward to it. I feel kind of bad because I only play offline. So I’ve never given the guys any money. With the $30 I spent for the game like years ago, it feels like I’ve been robbing them a bit

steady bison
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Hows void knight as my first run on this game?

stable shoal
buoyant turret
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vk warpath is the business, you got smite judgement etc so many passive defense and heals its hard to kill

stable shoal
torpid zinc
buoyant turret
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sentinel builds in general you are going to get crazy defense. stand and bang even if its not top tier dps

torpid zinc
stable shoal
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Forgeguard is meh needs more rework of passive and skills

torpid zinc
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My main is forge. It took a bit to get there, but they’re really tough as nails once you get them built

stable shoal
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Sad cause can be tankier than pally but does no damage

buoyant turret
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but can eat almost everything

stable shoal
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Yeah but can't blast which is the important aspect in endgame

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If we could use shield and two hander but no negatives would improve quite a bit forgeguard

buoyant turret
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paladin is ignore mechanics but dust is faster heh

steady bison
steady bison
torpid zinc
steady bison
stable shoal
stable shoal
buoyant turret
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its like dot in any arpg the damage isnt front loaded but gives you time to dodge .. that being said you need to know what to dodge

rustic whale
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всем привет

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подскажите пожалуйста,не открывает чат игры,что делать?

green stream
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rule number 7 @rustic whale

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english please

rustic whale
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I can't open the chat

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v igre

simple bison
rustic whale
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nie wyszło

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Although a friend can write to me.

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Everything was fine yesterday

rustic whale
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русские есть?

severe socket
primal abyss
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Good morning Travelers 🙂

south moat
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Good morning Van

woven sentinel
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Lmao then what build you using as I walk through 1,300 corruption with reflect

main frigate
primal abyss
woven sentinel
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3 hours then my work shift is OVER. Then can relax on game for 3ish hours helping anyone with bosses . Yipppieeeeeee. Hopefully next 3 hours flys by

main frigate
south moat
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Shredded goes well

woven sentinel
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Indeed, speaking of cheese. Jacket 🥔 for dinner tonight yummmmmmmy

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I'm gonna be sick 🤢🤢 I just saw a work colleague put salt in water and is drinking it 🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮

simple bison
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That's pretty normal

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Usually people don't do it because they think it tastes good though

obtuse bay
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salt in water can be good If you are clearing your mouth and spitting it without toothpaste

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but never seen someone drinking it directly

primal abyss
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Salt + warm water and other things are old folk remedies from where I grew up too 😆

primal abyss
south moat
primal abyss
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Also, seasoning and cheese changes lol

main frigate
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No idea why people will fire at salt water. It's a good way to get minerals after done some training

obtuse bay
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because you can use salt on foods and drinking water later alternatively omegalul

main frigate
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I can say I think people just drink water with ices looks odd too. It's too cold

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Through I dislike warm water too

main frigate
obtuse bay
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warm and cold water can be used on coffees depends on what you prefer but If people don't have any teeth issues, I also find it weird drinking warm water, and for ice, If the weather is too hot, maybee

primal abyss
south moat
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Hopefully not kinder eggs

main frigate
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lol

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Kinder egg is the most valuable snack in my childhood because they're quite expensive but they taste epic

primal abyss
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Just the Kinder brand? I'm unsure especially since there are massive brand differences worldwide but anything that sounds fun in the seasoning aisle lol

main frigate
calm jay
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I think y'all mean two different kinders?

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Kinder eggs et al are a chocolate line

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Kinder spices sound different

main frigate
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Yes I'm a fan of drink with ices. I just don't drink water with ices

primal abyss
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Kinder spices are not Kinder eggs, correct

calm jay
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I had a funny feeling

primal abyss
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"Van puts WHAT ON HIS OMELETTE?"

calm jay
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Nonetheless

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I will imagine you grating a kinder egg over an actual egg at my leisure

primal abyss
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oh gosh

main frigate
calm jay
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I mean I try not to knock it if I haven't tried it... some things work when they maybe shouldn't, food can be like that

obtuse bay
main frigate
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lol this topic go to an interesting wrong direction

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ok I wish I can try what kinder spices taste on omelette one day

primal abyss
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Kinder is just one of many brands. Next time you're at the market, check the spices aisle and see what things they have gotta be creative sometimes

obtuse bay
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I am garlic fan but Ive never seen this many lol

main frigate
obtuse bay
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woodfired garlic, buttery garlic

primal abyss
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I have not tried them all but last really fun flavor I had was cowboy butter

obtuse bay
primal abyss
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Yup. So could honestly make something similar to it without buying the bottle... also whoops talking about food? With Vandryll?

obtuse bay
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you are not bad cook imo If you are atleast using 5 seasonings

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now I want to cook smth

main frigate
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Our seasoning are too simple compare with a seasoning brand

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(I never see green onion)

obtuse bay
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but as living in europe, I see this absolute win

main frigate
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Yes seasoning king in next level

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Nothing like that even in the most luxury supermarket here

carmine smelt
primal abyss
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I remember the first time I visited Europe and got bubble water...whew. That's one thing I couldn't get used to, sadly

obtuse bay
carmine smelt
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When in Europe: Beer ✅ Water ❌

primal abyss
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It wasn't even culture shock, it was more of a tastebud and texture shock

carmine smelt
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Also cheese, Europe cheese 🫶

obtuse bay
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but yeah, many cheese

primal abyss
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I love cheese.

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Its so bad for me but so good for the soul.

main frigate
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Available water in IKEA is sparkling water too. I'm confused per time I go to there

obtuse bay
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what are we drinking, you will be drinking omegalul

carmine smelt
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IKEA is designed to confuse, you walk in, they make you get lost in some weird maze, then they feed you meatballs and berries

primal abyss
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Oh no.. IKEA. A most dangerous place..

obtuse bay
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when I go to ikea, everyone is eating swedish meatballs

primal abyss
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"Let's get everyone lost and hungry before they leave...they'll eat and buy something not originally expecting to"

carmine smelt
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also Van are you NA? For some reason I thought you were EU

primal abyss
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I am in NA, yes

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NA, EU... I'm everywhere 👀

main frigate
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Unfortunately I know the secret path of IKEA which located in my city so I just run to the dining area and grab some meatballs to enjoy

reef dock
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that doesn't sound unfortunate to me

main frigate
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👀 The maze don't work for me

main frigate
reef dock
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I'm sure they'll be okay lol

main frigate
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I enjoy their maze even because I can take a walk after the dinner

obtuse bay
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old people asking for way to exit never been this funny omegalul

primal abyss
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Did everyone have a fun Halloween weekend? Assuming some of you took part in festivities.

main frigate
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New topic. Good reminder for Wick to share his performance

reef dock
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I watched some halloween-adjacent movies on friday night, and went to a friends' party on saturday

primal abyss
obtuse bay
primal abyss
obtuse bay
primal abyss
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Alright. Bet

simple bison
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How do you get confused as to where to go

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Or does it maybe not look the same in other countries

swift swift
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Bonjour et enchanté tout le monde ! ^^

carmine smelt
simple bison
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Fair fair

carmine smelt
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Its kinda like how grocery checkout aisles have those items to grab attention, but the entire store is just that

simple bison
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A lot of people describe it as one, which is why I always wondered why

carmine smelt
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Also do the names even make sense in Swedish?

simple bison
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Yeah it takes the grocery store tactic of being designed so you walk past most of the isles to the max

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Nope

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They're just random words

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But there are rules for how things are named

royal narwhal
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Guys, when is a new league approx?

simple bison
simple bison
blazing ice
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Hey trevellers, any suggestions on "you lost connection to the game server" started to happen in the morning, no changes to the system, happens when I access Merchants guild or Teleport to any location just after the login?

royal narwhal
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Ty

simple bison
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Estimate is late December

blazing ice
simple bison
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Have you tried swapping server region?

blazing ice
simple bison
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But it lets you connect initially?

blazing ice
simple bison
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That's super weird

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Try Verifying integrity of your files

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There might be something wonky going on locally

blazing ice
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I land in the Bazaar and can't do anythythin if try DC

blazing ice
blazing ice
# simple bison There might be something wonky going on locally

thank you for suggestion, verified files, the same, I appear in Bazaar, can run, see players, see chat, but if I access any merchant (I event see items sold notification count) or TP to any location - DC
Sometimes I see "operation failed" or "bazaar having issues" messages, but I also see people playing on stream without problems and no announcements of technical issues

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really confusing

simple bison
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Yeah sorry I have no clue

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Never heard of this issue before

blazing ice
simple bison
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You can try opening a support ticket but hopefully it won't take until then for it to be fixed

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!support

rancid basaltBOT
stable shoal
main frigate
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How meet the team going? It have permanent hiatus like CM stream too?

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(yes I want to ask Wick)

honest belfry
main frigate
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Alright so EHG is quite busy at cooking 1.4

calm igloo
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I jut had a weird bug shattering a metaphage sword, after I shattered and then took off the sword all the stats on it became negative in my character sheet, made my damage a bit lower. Had to log out and back in to fix it weird

digital oriole
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Last Epoch - Primal Legend Supporter Pack Set costs more than entire game....like what the hell.

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Cosmetics cost 58.99$ while game 33.99$

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273,44€ (DLCs only) vs 34.99€ Base game. (only)

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When my salary is 650€ (monthly) its quite expensive sadly EHG do not adjust for serbia regonal pricing

obtuse bay
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issue with regional pricing is other players can use this advantage for theirselves, not bcs of the company

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but they are cosmetics and there are many games just sell single cosmetics 6x price of the game

south moat
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Well
the supporter packs are just cosmetics
and they're using the steam default regional pricing

stable shoal
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Yeah when game cost 30$ i think their price is more than fair maybe ridiculous fair with how much content play you get from it

digital oriole
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I bought at Discount at -22%

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But its fine, i do not regret it

woven sentinel
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I AM HOME

digital oriole
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I wish i had that 274$ to spend on game just to support sadly do not have that much expendable income

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Welcome back!

woven sentinel
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Thank you thank you. Time to chill for an hour then cook dinner or do I just cook now then it leaves me 3hrs to play gaha

obtuse bay
woven sentinel
west ivy
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regional pricing is quite odd because buying coins is incredibly expensive but buying packs that also have coins is...expensive, but significantly less so

main frigate
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😂 😂 😂 😂 ......

woven sentinel
main frigate
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Well...Art is expensive. It suppose to be that. Artists need money to live. I respect this fact but I'm not rich enough to support them

obtuse bay
west ivy
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woven vanquisher is R$107.99 (USD 20.14) and it has a bunch of things + 200 coins
200 coins by itself are R$114.99 (USD 21.44)
this is all Brazilian regional pricing

obtuse bay
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stfu

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I am reading news

woven sentinel
obtuse bay
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@simple bison

woven sentinel
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hi lol

simple bison
obtuse bay
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I thought he is a bot xD

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selling things

woven sentinel
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na hes just moaning coins are more expensive than packs

main frigate
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we’re working on, you’ll soon be able to watch the new Community Corner Stream on Twitch. Enjoy new Challenge Streams, Game Shows, trivia, Dev guest, interactive streams, and so much more!

🤔

woven sentinel
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idc about prices, im happy to support this team, their values and what they stand for, they are not making us pay for characters(unlike another franchise, least said the better)

obtuse bay
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when I read coins, I directly thought some of crypto sheet

west ivy
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maybe you should read what I wrote first instead of telling me to stfu?

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and saying I'm a bot?

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like, dang

woven sentinel
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hes reading the news like an old man

west ivy
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there's like, two things of fire aura that had already been shown!

woven sentinel
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u know its a newsletter that basically highlights everything via stream and keypoints?

main frigate
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I just jump to the last part, community fun, nothing interesting before this part

obtuse bay
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I like to join CT program

main frigate
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I will read meet the team at first if there's one but it's disappeared

woven sentinel
main frigate
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I still honor meet the team as the most valuable part

obtuse bay
woven sentinel
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they have a big CT team from sounds of it anyways

obtuse bay
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but you must def join

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never seen someone play bear build

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as like you did

woven sentinel
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na im not fully knowledgeable about game

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this is 1st season playing

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i rather have someone from beta be in ct team than me 😄

obtuse bay
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mods are good

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but I think there will be more people than just 5 players

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or 6

woven sentinel
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who knows mate, who knows obv for security reasons they keeping it hush hush whos on team which is understandable

obtuse bay
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what If someone leaks season4 xD

woven sentinel
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but now Vulj shush im trying to eat and ur distracting me

obtuse bay
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you can eat and text xD

woven sentinel
main frigate
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No idea what CM team is cooking, but I'm looking forward to see Kain's and Van's face :) It tests the skills of CM hard when the game is still being prepared 👀

I want more concept art showcases personally.

woven sentinel
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right brb after food

obtuse bay
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the little image looks like it's gonna convert fire to chaos

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or void dmg

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we have cold and lightning aura

west ivy
main frigate
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No opinions because I don't know how to use that in skill combos

turbid silo
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How's everyone doing?

honest belfry
inner finch
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Mostly just surviving

turbid silo
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Surviving indeed!

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But it is good we're doing that 🙂

woven sentinel
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trying to slam lp2 nihilis with both increased minion damage & minion area & damage

woven sentinel
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ty ty, im trying to have everything with minion damage on because lols

turbid silo
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For sure on the grind

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Working on getting items personally 😄

woven sentinel
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Haha fairs, what build did you go for Derrick?

turbid silo
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Working on a raptor beastmaster

woven sentinel
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oooo nice, im bear beastmaster

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hense why everything with minion dmg lol

turbid silo
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Yeah haha

woven sentinel
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now im debating do i go for 2xt7 minion damages or t7 minion damage with Critical strike chance? hmmmm

turbid silo
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I am not doing too bad 😉

main frigate
woven sentinel
main frigate
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off topic is for off topic

honest belfry
# main frigate what is it mean?

It's just a bit of dark humor.
Surviving out of spite basically means there are people who don't want me around, so i'm choosing to stay because it upsets them.
It's not true, but I find it funny

woven sentinel
digital oriole
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Ettera-Monthly just posted an hour ago. (for me its now so sush)

woven sentinel
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wiccccck helpppp me decide 😄

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or derrick if ur around lol

honest belfry
woven sentinel
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haha

honest belfry
honest belfry
woven sentinel
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well my minion does all the damages lol

calm igloo
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@woven sentinel you don’t run the weavers amulet anymore? I assumed that was BiS to give your bear triple the amulet stats?

calm igloo
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Oh nevermind!

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I see in the other thread your explanation my bad!

woven sentinel
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np 😄

calm igloo
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You are min maxing this toon to the moon huh???

honest belfry
calm igloo
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Are you just trying to speed up your uber kill time??

calm igloo
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That’s legit, I’ve been trying to min max my rive build to kill uber, I think I know what I need to do (in addition to improving my skill of course) but I’m at the double T7 legendaries in all slots phase so it’s slow going

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But I’m gonna replicate that bear build you sent so I can farm a new shattered worlds, I only have 2 and one has 16 intelligence and the other has 14 dexterity, so I need more options

woven sentinel
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but i dunnnooo , i think ill go original plan Nihilis with 2X T7s and if later on i find better Erased ill swap back lol

obtuse tinsel
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best Eterra Monthly 💪

blazing ice
covert whale
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Am I the only one whose chat and party requests aren't working?

turbid silo
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It's working for me. What region are you in?

obtuse bay
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chat is working

woven sentinel
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so urm derrick if ur still around

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my minion stats are now 1305% 😄

obtuse bay
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your stats going to roof lol keep increasing

woven sentinel
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im done now, cant increase it

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everything single item has either
Minion/bow & Minion/spell

T7 Minion increased damage & T7 Strength

T7 Minion damage with T7 Minion area & Damage

obtuse bay
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how much corruption do you have

woven sentinel
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1,300

obtuse bay
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WomegalulW

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im dealing with 200 corruption barely, maybe I change my class

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I need to level up 10 more levels and let's see If passives will help

carmine smelt
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Perhaps I shouldn't say "easily", that's subjective

obtuse bay
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I agree with you, just some t7s are more expensive

carmine smelt
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Even single T7s should be more than enough to take a decent build past 1000c

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Double t7 is luxury stuff

main frigate
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@honest belfry Duck is left? ... I remind of him suddenly. I still confused what his role at EHG...
:(

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Sorry to hear no duck at EHG anymore.

obtuse bay
honest belfry
main frigate
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He don't call duck anymore?

south moat
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Does it really matter..?

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He might not be on the discord to concentrate more on his job

main frigate
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Oh. He just don't use discord

south moat
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I honestly wouldn't even use discord for my work stuff

willow sentinel
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They got roasted

south moat
inner finch
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I can't let any coworker even know i have a Discord account

carmine smelt
south moat
south moat
inner finch
carmine smelt
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This is why I leave all my accounts permanently in appear offline

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I don't game during work but I've forgotten to turn games off before and that's not a good look

south moat
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I remember calling in sick (was actually sick and had to go to the hospital for it even)
and then playing later in the day
that coworker then brought it up during next time I was there

carmine smelt
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that just feels toxic imo

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If your performance suffers from being absent all the time, that's one thing, but if you do your thing the whole micromanagement feels gross

woven sentinel
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oh dont get me started on that crap, my work place are spies if u ring in sick

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you could be walking in direction of going to GP or doctors etc but because they see u walking they are like well if your well enough to walk ur well enough to work

south moat
woven sentinel
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but what they dont realise is, people work on the factory lines in 1 spot for 8hrs watching the lines, they are gonna get sick

carmine smelt
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especially if they expect sick people to come in 😉

woven sentinel
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na if im gonna ring in sick because i work with food, i just say ah ive been throwing up. boom instant 48hours off

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and ill wait 24hours then go out the next day, if they say shit, i was feeling better but im following company policies and procedures of not coming in. if i was to come in you would of sent me home anyways so whats the difference

carmine smelt
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the policing feels like high school to me, so weird

woven sentinel
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anyways this old man whos turning 30 next week is gonna jump into bed, watch some utube and fall asleep 😄

carmine smelt
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like if you are a good worker overall, would you really want to erode that just to have 4 sick days in a year instead of 5? Or have them leave

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youngster heh

woven sentinel
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haha

woven sentinel
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if ur sick ur sick end of

carmine smelt
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I remember having a boss tell me "you seem to miss a lot of Mondays"

woven sentinel
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yeah hungover deal with it lol

carmine smelt
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I checked, and that entire past year I had been sick twice on Monday, and 4 times total

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2 = "a lot"

woven sentinel
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Oh frozen

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Has your places tried Overtime is mandatory you have to do it?

carmine smelt
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Technically in Canada high tech professionals are exempt from overtime laws, so my employer could require overtime or oncall and not pay for it, iirc

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They don't though, I've worked OT a few times and always been paid for it

woven sentinel
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If my place asks for overtime and people say no. They will go around select random people and say your doing it. It's mandatory if you don't we will dock a day's wage for failure to come in

south moat
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That's terrible being exempt from overtime laws

woven sentinel
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My work place breaks so many laws it's unreal

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We only allowed to self medicate 3 days even though government law states we can for 7

carmine smelt
woven sentinel
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When you call in sick we only can have 3 days before requiring a doctor note for more days

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But government law states 7 days before doctor note and when U ring doctors they will even ask have you had this more than 7 days

carmine smelt
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oooo that, for some reason I was thinking something else by "self medicate"

woven sentinel
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Lol

carmine smelt
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like special stuff

woven sentinel
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Bad frozen haha

carmine smelt
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I think asking for Dr note is illegal here now

woven sentinel
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Oh really?

inner finch
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In many places these days you dont have to provide notes

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The company has discovered a level of respect higher than the one granted to a 6 year old

mossy wing
# carmine smelt They don't though, I've worked OT a few times and always been paid for it

i changed careers beacuse of exempt overtime laws I said goodbye once I learned. I use to be the guy in khaki pants (not jake from state farm lol) that would run out onto the court, field, arena, etc and diagnose an athlete's injury. Never worked D1 Hockey, but i did work ECL. Athletes on our team...if needed...would be sent to the Houston Oilers to help out.

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Not sure which ECL team provided for the San Jose Sharks...i would have liked to work for them lol

mossy wing
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3 Days in Cali...depending upon career. A doctor's note is required to take additional time off. Crazy crazy!

dapper wedge
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wats da word on da street bois?

willow sentinel
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Street is quiet my boi

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Waiting for actual news

elder wedge
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Any idea what month season 4 is coming?

willow sentinel
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dec/jan

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ish

elder wedge
willow sentinel
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There is no official date

willow sentinel
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@lost hemlock

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You forgot a space

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title: xxxx

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Do you want a copy of your suggestion ?

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So you dont have to type it all again ?

severe socket
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You mean to tell me that the bot has STILL not learned to talk back?

median perch
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Temporarily reduce the time playing LE to just a few hours per day until the new season

primal abyss
main frigate
primal abyss
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Hope everyone is well today!

woven sentinel
woven sentinel
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Anyone want any sausage meat we just had 19,000kg delivered

primal abyss
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That sounds amazing. Alas, no red meat here 😆

woven sentinel
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Ah fairs. Time to get back to work. 3 hours to go then can get home. Jump on and kill ubers for people

south moat
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Yeah, I could use some of that meat

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Gm van

gusty valve
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how about second primordial slot on lvl 100 with %100 bar

tardy bison
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the bar just resets at 100

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back to zero lol

gusty valve
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yeah imagine it didnt

tardy bison
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that'd be op, but it'd be cool if you got something small for every bar fill

main frigate
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I just filled exp bar in lv 100 once time because I want to know what will happen. Well EHG did nothing on that so I have quite disappointed so I never did this thing again

obtuse bay
#

I am still 91 lvl

#

9 more level and I will be free

south moat
#

The last lvls don't offer anything special because they don't want it to feel necessary that you need to get there.

obtuse bay
#

since lvl 60, I repeated same things, go monoliths, slay monsters in the echoes, sell items, buy items, better gear

but I have hopes for season 4

main frigate
#

why not?

#

If they don't want us to reach here every time, they can reduce the max level

#

why the max level is 100?

obtuse bay
#

imagine having all passive skills groleshades

main frigate
#

... EHG will comment nothing, which I have no idea how to provide my reasons usually

#

Debate is fun but they don't want to play with us

obtuse bay
#

nah, they are reading everything and they are well aware, I know it GigaChad

#

suggestion can be made but most devs should agree with suggestion

main frigate
#

I'm annoying that I don't know why my suggestions can't pass if it's not the best one for le

obtuse bay
#

they must have reasons we don't know, I will keep suggesting things tho

#

season 4 will be so important btw

#

I heard news about ai company but Idk how it will affect on future of this game

south moat
main frigate
#

Solid verifications for questions or suggestions always rare. It let me feel I'm boxing with cotton

south moat
#

And i'm not going to look for them

willow sentinel
#

The last 5 lvls which are the longest to get only give you 5 passives pts

obtuse bay
willow sentinel
#

Comparatively to when you are lvl 60 the represent less power

main frigate
#

what a drama is hhhhh....

obtuse bay
main frigate
#

and you need to reach lv 90 if you want to power up lv.85 items fully

obtuse bay
#

as a reflect shaman, yes lvl85 is more important than lvl100 but I wonder If there is any build that uses low level item but having so much corruption

#

If they have low lvl gears, every point on passive skill tree will be important for them and lvl100 will be more important

main frigate
obtuse bay
main frigate
#

It's acceptable and reasonable, just tell me which jobs/things are more important and why are they more important

obtuse bay
#

they can't leak anything about season4 tho

primal abyss
#

Like mentioned above, we very much do like seeing suggestions but there are a lot and it's just impossible to apply each and every suggestion in-game. Just keep suggestion what comes to your mind and heart Gregory

obtuse bay
#

see

main frigate
#

Back to that question yet

#

I willing to ask questions but it's impossible to get answers for all questions

south moat
#

"I'm annoying that I don't know why my suggestions can't pass if it's not the best one for le. So I want reasons. Reasons for why unpassed suggestions are unpassed. EHG members can know reasons quickly in the initial communcations, but players can't."
They don't have to explain why something is put in the game or why something isn't put in the game
They could just say "This sounds like a bad idea for the game on a long run" and a lot of the suggestions would be gone

#

The suggestions forum isn't there so that everything in there is put to the game.
It's for ideas to "maybe" be put in the game
It's like an extra seat at their table where you're allowed to give in input

main frigate
#

:) I can feel EHG will keep do nothing on zero reward for fill lv 100's xp bar. I want a reason which I can understand.
Yes, I should find a way to understand what Mike is saying at first...

south moat
#

Well, Mike gave you an explanation and you didn't understand it
So not much can be done there

brittle hollow
#

It’s a good reasoning as well imo

south moat
#

It is

main frigate
#

Sometimes I can't match with their logic quickly lol

#

Especially questions about max level and balanced point is 300c

south moat
#

Luckily you don't need to understand everything
And sometimes even if someone explains the logic behind it you might not agree with it
think that "That sounds stupid"

#

People think very differently 😉

main frigate
#

hhhhhhhhh I don't want to be quite...Rude like that so I always give them chances to explain

brittle hollow
#

It’s relatively simple. Either they make leveling to 100 easy and also make most builds work at lvl 100. Or lower the max level and add another progression system like paragon in Diablo… or leave things as they are where your build works earlier and you keep making it better and you have specific milestones tied to your gameplay. 300cc, t4 julra kill, Aberforth kill etc

#

First sentence means that the passive points that make your build “good” when you spend them..would have to be earned at level 100 instead of much earlier like they do now

south moat
#

I'm not much of an artist at all for example
I can't really understand things from the artistic point of view for example.
Sure, I can draw and so on but it takes a lot of effort for me

Kirra, just thinking that something sounds stupid isn't rude.
It can even be said out in a different way so it doesn't sound rude.

And they essentially don't need to explain why they do something or why they do not do something
They offer the explanation because they want to.

#

This discord is also essentially completely optional
They don't need to have it.
but it's more convenient for the community than old style forums are usually

south moat
brittle hollow
south moat
#

<@&1161418687471956101> spam in all the channels

brittle hollow
#

Need to find a way to auto ban these.. so annoying…

simple bison
#

It might be surprising to hear but a lot of them are actually auto blocked

brittle hollow
#

I know the 18 over stuff can be blocked easily, I have that on my server

simple bison
#

There could maybe be more done, but yeah

primal abyss
#

They continue to grow bold

brittle hollow
#

But I have not found a way to auto ban these with the jpg embeds…

simple bison
#

There might be a bot that can time out accounts and delete messages if they send messages in different channels in quick succession or something, but you'd still need someone to review it or something

brittle hollow
#

Yeah I know that’s one solution.. I prefer ban because it also deletes the messages.. it’s just… annoying

south moat
#

Just have a channel that if you send anything there it automatically bans you from the server

simple bison
#

Lol

brittle hollow
#

That’s actually… pretty good solution lol. But I know people would go there and get banned by “accident”

simple bison
#

Yeah

south moat
#

But it would be funny.

obtuse bay
#

channel name:
write-for-points GigaChad

south moat
#

And there's a reason why I shouldn't be asked for suggestions with moderating

#

But I know a server that does that
Apparently they get like 1 or 2 actual users getting banned from it every month because they're curious "Does it actually ban you?" and test the waters

obtuse bay
#

If it was twitch, people would be volunteer just to be seen on live stream lol

south moat
#

Yes

obtuse bay
#

imagine Mike asks Who wants to get banned? and everyone in the chat says ME omegalul

strange umbra
obtuse bay
#

and then he closes the stream

strange umbra
night marten
#

i mean we have banned/muted people that have asked before

#

like if thats what makes ya happy i will gladly oblige

obtuse bay
#

🔨 no mercy on them

south moat
#

Hey there Muffin

south moat
#

Haven't actually seen him since then

#

that was fast

simple bison
#

On phone too groleshades

south moat
#

I'm so glad you guys don't need to do it separately on all the channels anymore

simple bison
#

Yeah it's very nice

#

Especially for when you're on phone

south moat
#

Yeah, I can imagine

main frigate
#

Alright...Nub is right. I should think that sounds stupid. Just one time though.

south moat
#

I just wish discord stopped showing the channels have new messages
When the new message was already removed
||or if it's from someone you've blocked or ignored||

night marten
#

yeah, that'd be nice

inner finch
#

What we did in a server is use a gluetrap bot visible only to new comers with a level 0 account in a high channel that essentially helps us eliminate them

#

There really are bots for this

#

Maybe it will also reduce the 1 random friend request i get per day from people who join LE server

#

im in 40 servers, and somehow nearly all random requests come from here omegalul

south moat
#

Now that you meantion it
This is the only one I've got those from
I've had a few message requests from bots that joined Mathil's discord but other than that yeah

#

Then again
The art bots here just post their stuff to fanart while saying that "it's for a client"
and it's always looking very similar between the people posting it

maiden sky
#

My net crashed trying to reboot incase you guys check here.

heady night
#

Maybe today we get season 4 teaser...

#

😭

south moat
#

||loot|| even

turbid silo
#

A good day Travelers. How's everyone doing

maiden sky
#

@ farming group I’m going to go eat lunch while I wait for my internet.

#

Also /wave Derrick

turbid silo
#

Hey hey

woven sentinel
#

I am hoooooome

#

Hey hey Derrick

turbid silo
#

Hey @woven sentinel How are you doing

woven sentinel
#

I am great thanks just finished work so about to cook omelette and chips off then can spend next 3 hours on game :D.

main frigate
#

I'll laugh every time Nub post something spoiled about teasers

south moat
woven sentinel
#

As long as they don't touch my bear I'm okay

main frigate
#

thanks, I laugh harder and I'm confused why I will laugh harder

south moat
turbid silo
#

An omelette sounds delish

woven sentinel
calm jay
#

That does sound delish...

woven sentinel
calm jay
#

Would absolutely play a shapeshift class if it were a giant hamster.

south moat
woven sentinel
#

Booooo

south moat
#

But it will give words of advice to people willing to listen

maiden sky
#

Chefs salad with spicy chili humus and pita flat chips

night marten
main frigate
calm jay
turbid silo
main frigate
turbid silo
#

No, just saw gamingboy was making one and it sounded good

#

Not gonna make one myself hehe

#

I'm a bit under the weather so need something for that

main frigate
#

Oh... You can go on

#

I read messages too fast and ignored that one

calm jay
#

Time for tea!

#

It always hits the spot when I'm under the weather.

turbid silo
#

Yeah, need to make some. Good call!

woven sentinel
turbid silo
#

Hot tea is nice on my throat I gotta say

main frigate
#

I've tied which Kinder is that with omelette. That's a good joke

woven sentinel
#

Urm what? I read that completely wrong 😂😂

turbid silo
#

Time to get this beastmaster leveled up

woven sentinel
#

Oo have fun. My minions are now 1300+% minion damage. Uber gets hurt badly haha

turbid silo
#

I am nowhere near that hehe

silk creek
#

Anyone else having an issue with Stash Tab priorities not working?

#

just completely ignores

woven sentinel
silk creek
#

happening with idols specifically. I have a tab that specifically is for idols, yet when i shift + m1 them, they go into the stash tab im currently on, and not that tab

turbid silo
#

I haven't heard of anything @silk creek but if it is reproducible then I would file an in game bug report and include the steps to do it so our QA team can investigate

silk creek
#

aaand sent

turbid silo
#

Thank you!

#

WOohoo

#

I just unlocked corruption

#

that's exicting

obtuse bay
#

now real fun begins

silk creek
#

think i figured out the stash tab prio bug

#

if you have say, 3 tabs- each of them with there own catagory- but one of them is full, then your tab priorities start to mess up

turbid silo
#

Oh that's strange

silk creek
#

If one is full, then you have to have another tab made that can accept the overflow for the other tab prio's to work correctly

turbid silo
#

Definitely all good information to include in the bug report you file

#

That's the kind of detail that makes those the most useful for our team

woven sentinel
#

time to log on and smack ubers bum for players

#

lmao im like a celeb on world chat, everyone says hi to me

maiden sky
#

Well I guess my internet company really did want me to touch grass. 😀

willow sentinel
#

They are looking out for you

maiden sky
#

Could you let them know to do it when I DONT have a full troves group online? 😬

fickle merlin
#

new season when?

night marten
glacial crow
#

Hello All! New here. Soooooo I am starting playing again after a year break. I have about 57? hours into my game, but when I just reinstalled and logged in w/ Steam, it made me start a brand new character! Did they do some character wipe or something? I really liked the gear that I worked those hours for

stoic frigate
glacial crow
dense shell
#

@glacial crow Did you have the cloud setting enabled to upload?

#

I know that happened to me with Elden Ring one time

#

Literally for some reason it was the only game whose settings werent set to go to cloud for save data

glacial crow
#

I never disabled the cloud. Hrm

dense shell
#

Might wanna double check just incase, because I didnt recall doing that to that game either (if it is then atleast we will know why, if not then there is some strange reason?)

glacial crow
#

I just checked and Steam Cloud is enabled

#

when DID the game go live and did they do some kind of wipe? When I played last, I dont think they even had mastery classes

stoic frigate
little lagoon
#

we found them

#

THE john wizard

glacial crow
#

Why even do seasons? Is it just the thrill of restarting from scratch and competing on leaderboards? They last for 3 months right?

calm igloo
#

Yup that’s correct, it’s just to start brand new fresh each season. Every other feature is available in legacy at this point. I think devs said that might change at some point, but I like that they do it this way.

#

D4 only adds new features to the seasonal league I think to get you to play more, which I don’t like

stoic frigate
calm igloo
#

Leaderboards are just 1st to level 100 and then highest arena level right?

#

No highest corruption yet?

steep river
calm igloo
#

That would be an interesting leaderboard, I feel like certain builds can just specifically push corruption WAY higher than others like ballista falconer for example

tardy bison
#

most people brag here or YouTube about big corruption

#

there was the 20k+ falconer guy last season

calm igloo
#

Yeah I saw that, pretty wild

#

That’s quite the climb at like 58 corruption per shade kill lol

autumn briar
#

also economy reset (MG).

lost hemlock
#

I am trying to find a way into the upper district. Ive already killed the void worm once and I follow the rifts that appear. So far none of those rifts in the caves lead to the upper district. So what do I do now to get into the upper district?

#

IVe already googled and the directions it gave where to do just what I did. And also redit, which was "there is an error" and the forums are reporting it is still bugged as of April 2025.

simple bison
#

Of course it starts slowing down once you get up there

past glacier
#

hi guys, approximatively when is the next season? if anyone knows

willow sentinel
#

2 months

woven sentinel
#

89 years, 11 months, 23days,11 hours and 23minutes and counting is next season

#

3hrs left then finish work. Then can continue buying VK gear and slam on Bear. Maybe even do more Ubers 😄

severe socket
primal abyss
#

groleshades Goood Morning, Travelers~

south moat
#

Good morning Van

south moat
#

Anything interesting happening today?

primal abyss
#

Nothing new from this side...or that I can share.

digital oriole
#

I was denied for CC...

#

Sniff

eternal bough
#

did they post anything about when the new season is?

primal abyss
#

Promise.. once we have new info to share, folks will know about it here xD

south moat
#

Yeah, it'll be in #news
Unlike my totally legit leaks (actually jokes) aren't in there

eternal bough
primal abyss
#

It's all good. Generally news hits here and the forums first so keeping an eye over the #news area time to time like nub mentioned would be a nice way to catch up on the latest news.

severe socket
#

-# everyone, get in the van

#

(sorry)

#

Hiya 👋

primal abyss
#

Hello ShadowDweller groleshades

main frigate
#

No way it still a cup of water Gregory

primal abyss
#

Egg white Omlettes with chicken and Avocado spread

main frigate
#

Well. Excellent and solid answer on both of areas.

#

I can try egg white omelette after the next sleep 🤔

#

But...it's still not somthing new

neon oracle
#

@glacial crow pourquoi tu maß bloquer ?

woven sentinel
#

I am hoooommmeeeee

woven sentinel
last stratus
#

Hey guys, I have a question for a developer or moderator, can someone contact me privately? I don't want to bother anyone by sending a message first. thanks!

honest belfry
honest belfry
last stratus
#

ok thanks 🙂

woven sentinel
severe socket
#

winner winner chicken dinner

south moat
main frigate
#

lol my mum just cooked some "curry meatballs" as a dish yesterday.
Sweet, watery curry with cheap seafood meatballs which from market maybe be frozen for 1 year

obtuse bay
#

this bot is regularly coming here, I see

simple bison
#

It's different ones each time

obtuse bay
#

but images are same, so same person must be sending them If they don't have group of spammers

steep river
#

Yeah unfortunately they're likely compromised accounts

#

The post history shows that some of them at one point belonged to a regular person that used the server

inner finch
#

This is a discord-wide thing

#

And a result of just regular social engineering phishing

steep river
#

We try to clear them out as soon as we see them. But if we miss one, you can use @Moderator to ping mods and it'll get taken care of

woven sentinel
#

Time to relax in bed 😴😴

carmine arch
#

Is the fang belt fixed yet? Been gone for a bit so not up to date

willow sentinel
#

Nope

carmine arch
#

That's heartbreaking

arctic osprey
#

is there a channel where i can ask about mods?

south moat
arctic osprey
#

oh. i didn't know that. thanks

balmy arrow
neon oracle
#

@glacial crow répond stp

glacial crow
#

makes me saddy when I leave a tombstone. I must retrieve it at ALL costs immediately.

woven sentinel
#

Eurgh can't believe I'm 30 next week eek.

regal finch
#

will have to rename yourself to gaminggranpa 👴 kappa

woven sentinel
#

And who wanna go work for me

inner finch
#

in ARPG communities, 30 is very young

#

People here are old and grey (not me i have superhuman genes)

main frigate
#

I think old is better than young because in overall, industries want old people only because they're experienced.
Young people need training and tutoring, it's a big deal for bosses

inner finch
#

Age doesn't count when you're in the end of time

#

oh man im going to have to explain that one...

main frigate
#

Lol yes, please

#

Oh maybe that's why EHG give this name to that map

south moat
#

It is named that because devs are big fans of Chrono Trigger and it has time travel system and also area called the end of time

#

It also has npc named Gaspar

compact dawn
# south moat It also has npc named Gaspar

Fun fact in the Chrono Trigger (English version only) they named the 3 wise men (including Gaspar) after the 3 wise man in Christianity that gave baby Jesus gifts. It's one of those weird translations to make things appealing in western audiences. Gaspar was the one with frankincense.

south moat
#

Neat

glass pendant
#

Void Lavos as a boss when

main frigate
#

So why age doesn't count when I'm in the end of time?

#

I will never know how the end of time and Gaspar come by myself though

willow sentinel
#

How do you plan on holding 7b gold ?

tender swift
#

in items closed in shop

willow sentinel
#

So someone is going to have to buy 3'items from you and then trust you to list the RR?

tulip niche
woven sentinel
tulip niche
#

Damn, sounds cool

woven sentinel
#

Haha. Eurgh can't wait for this day to be over. So loooooooong. Will be on later to kill ubers, finally complete my VK bayblade build

woven sentinel
#

If any y'all want Uber kills or farming any bosses let me knoooowwwww I'll be home in 4hrs

primal abyss
#

Good Morning, everyone. Gregory

main frigate
#

I'm sorry, I forgot remove egg yolk this noon so the omelette I ate still is the whole egg...

primal abyss
#

Welp, hope it was still enjoyable 🙂

merry torrent
#

when sesaon 4

rancid pulsar
primal abyss
#

No details on season 4 just yet. Keep an eye on #news

main frigate
#

I keep two eyes

south moat
#

Unlike you I'm not going to keep an eye on the news

#

It'll eventually be here

primal abyss
#

Some people might actually set notifications for news, which is very clever so you'll get notifications on anything posted in there

main frigate
#

I don't think EHG will post any news when I'm sleeping Wrong. Any important news.

main frigate
south moat
#

Torg is legendary fire aura enjoyer

rancid pulsar
#

not legendary just very committed to the bit lol

south moat
#

Well, I do admire the commitment

main frigate
rancid pulsar
#

I have a written guide on LEtools that goes into the details (it's way too wordy and not updated in a while so I won't link it)

but tl:dr Glyph of Dominion mana stacking can make a lot of fire aura stacks

#

it felt okay to decent at 1.0/1.1 powerlevels, then we got uberroth and build expectations kind of skyrocketed, so it fell by the wayside

main frigate
rancid pulsar
#

it works, mechanically, but it's a lot of effort for a "just okay" build

rancid pulsar
main frigate
rancid pulsar
#

freezing big enemies + getting a bit of extra damage, works nicely with investment in cooldown speed (which we want anyway)

#

but once again the guide is kinda old, once we know more for next season I'll do a complete do-over

main frigate
#

🤔 So I can assume updates about fire aura are inspired from this build

#

This build give me similar feelings from burning dagger because their cases are same

rancid pulsar
#

kind of, yeah

main frigate
#

oh... Fire aura scale with freeze rate multiplier...Make sense

#

I didn't play any cold builds so I have no idea which skill can give me more freeze rate multiplier though

#

Oh Glacier is the best choice

carmine smelt
main frigate
#

I will use glacier instead of snap freeze or you can think I don't sure why snap freeze is here. I don't see anything from snap freeze better than glacier

carmine smelt
#

I've also used the armor while on cooldown node on snap freeze on some of my high wave arena runs

rancid pulsar
willow sentinel
#

Got around 4m dps iirc but as Spellblade

rancid pulsar
#

but that's rough napkin math

#

what I did I mean. Vlad got the spreadsheet and everything it's very thorough

balmy arrow
willow sentinel
#

Hum .... I didnt save it

rancid pulsar
main frigate
#

🤔 alright. I will need to test the difference between snap freeze and glacier to see which one is better in actual combats. I don't think glacier isn't good enough

willow sentinel
#

Its all I have left of the spreadsheet

slow cloudBOT
#
Game Cycle / Version:

Beneath Ancient Skies / 1.3.5

Class:

Mage (20) / Spellblade (70) / Runemaster (23)

General:

▸ Health: 1,721, Regen: 23.6/s
▸ Mana: 126.51, Regen: 12.64/s
▸ Ward Retention: 339%, Regen: 176/s
▸ Attributes: 10 Str / 10 Dex / 137 Int / 10 Att / 10 Vit
▸ Resistances: 316% / 47% / 136% / 44% / 109% / 54% / 54%

Defenses:

▸ Endurance: 30%, Threshold: 344
▸ Dodge Chance: 14% (471)
▸ Armor Mitigation: 16% (494)

willow sentinel
#

Got the planner too

rancid pulsar
willow sentinel
#

Dont need to perma freeze a boss if you can one shot it omegalul

rancid pulsar
# slow cloud

firebrand's insulation just got a lot more cool, I love it

main frigate
#

yes so I prefer more freeze rate multiplier from glacier so I can output more damage

carmine smelt
#

so 2x damage from flat and 500% res ish, is your expectation?

rancid pulsar
carmine smelt
#

oh... right so you get 10x at 250% res

rancid pulsar
#

500% is ambitious but could probably be done without breaking our back too much. whether it's worth it is a different question haha

carmine smelt
#

I think it depends on the LP and where you can get it

rancid pulsar
#

I should probably incorporate firestarter torch and other small but meaningfull bonuses like that, rather than crutch on wrongwarp for convenience

carmine smelt
#

int is prefix, res suffix, and these are priority

rancid pulsar
#

with Evoker of elements max mana is high priority as well so most of the prefixes are pretty much solved

carmine smelt
#

3LP then

#

7777 int mana fire res ele res, make it happen

rancid pulsar
#

doesn't even need to be fire res is the fun part

#

could put in frostbite shackles and play cold aura

#

or urzil's pride on lightning, if I can get enough mana regen to cut focus out of the build entirely that's a massive buff to... fun-ness-of-actually-playing

willow sentinel
#

I was talking with someone when the teaser got released

#

And they thought we will be getting 10 Flat per Int

rancid pulsar
#

I'm curious how they thought that

#

because... no

#

I mean hey I won't turn it down Gregory

night marten
#

fun and fire aura together. sus

south moat
#

Fun aura

main frigate
#

Will it fun?

#

No one can answer that, of course.

willow sentinel
#

I know I enjoyed Spellblade Fire Aura playstyle very much

#

But the dmg is... Lacking, even at 100c

inner finch
#

I love my Falcon aura build

main frigate
#

then I think I can say it's a burning dagger aura

woven sentinel
#

I am hooome

#

Time to get on , chill and later continue purchasing my VK bayblade gear

main frigate
#

I should push some progress in poe's campaign too

unique frigate
#

is roadmap delayed or what's happening with that

woven sentinel
#

new bid, 1,500

neon oracle
#

@glacial crow

carmine quiver
#

next season or expansion?

broken trench
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expac is far off

rancid pulsar
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but tacking a zero or two onto the damage numbers might grease some wheels

south moat
turbid silo
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Hey everyone, how's it going

woven sentinel
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good, got fake profiles messaging me, so much fun

south moat
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Hey there Derrick
It's good. waiting for food to be ready

turbid silo
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Fake profiles messaging you? In Discord?

turbid silo
woven sentinel
south moat
woven sentinel
turbid silo
woven sentinel
south moat
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And tomorrow i'm just gonna throw the leftover potatoes on a pan with some sausage, veggies & onions

woven sentinel
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hmmmmm sausage 😄 😛

night marten
south moat
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I was wondering about that too tbh

turbid silo
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I will be hanging in DIscord for a bit playing LE if anyone wants to say hi

woven sentinel
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hi 🙂 haha

turbid silo
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in a voice channel

coral horizon
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@neon oracle

neon oracle
coral horizon
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Hello how do you find him ?

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@neon oracle

severe socket
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Hiya Derrick. 👋

neon oracle
coral horizon
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Yes

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How how

neon oracle
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he is my best in game friend

coral horizon
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Oh idk

neon oracle
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Bonjour, je me permets de t’écrire même si on ne se connaît pas. Je m’excuse d’avance si mon message te paraît étrange.
Je suis une ancienne collègue de Matthias, on a travaillé ensemble à Lidl, et on était en couple. Tout se passait bien, et du jour au lendemain il m’a bloquée sans aucune explication.
Honnêtement, ça m’a énormément blessée parce que je tiens à lui, et ne pas savoir pourquoi il a coupé tout contact du jour au lendemain, c’est vraiment difficile à vivre. Je ne cherche pas à créer des histoires, ni à lui causer de problèmes. J’aimerais juste comprendre, même un mot, une raison… quelque chose.
Si tu sais ce qu’il s’est passé ou si tu peux simplement m’aider à comprendre, ce serait vraiment important pour moi.

neon oracle
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my bad

silk creek
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for stash tab priority, there has to be a better way to organize items by class..

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like weapons, for example, Usurpers Mandate is obviously an Acolyte wep, but i cant just pick ' acolyte' as a priority for it since its not labeled as such

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and going through every single unique for a class like that is awfully tedious

night marten
woven sentinel
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whats everyone doing on game?

silk creek
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failing at getting Skin boots

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confirmed harder to get than red ring

woven sentinel
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4.9% drop chance

silk creek
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ive used close to 40 Acendency runes, on top of farming, 20+ boot nodes in spirit of Fire

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shit doesnt exist

woven sentinel
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oof

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im gonna do some uber killing in vc, feel free to join and watch 😄

carmine smelt
silk creek
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those boots can drop in any timeline or just a 'higherchance' in that timeline?

night marten
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They can drop anywhere, yes. They are global drops. They only have a "higher chance" cuz of the echo reward nodes. Which as frozen said are basically useless at this point. Prophecies are infinitely better target farming

woven sentinel
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made my bayblade warpath build (missing 1 correct chest piece and idols)
health= 4963 and mana=1104. im walking through corruption 1333 .

😄

gentle mauve
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hey dope bois 😄

south moat
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jello

carmine smelt
gentle mauve
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I want to play warpath again from zero to hero

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@carmine smelt do you have uber + cool mapping builds for this

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I have one old warpath even with gear but i want to start from 0 😄

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gaming boi motivated me 😄

carmine smelt
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oh I guess I did a bit in 1.2, a speed focused version with kestral and all the movement speed items

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was a lot of fun to go giga fast

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Ah I see why you are asking, my name is not accurate. I play Mage 😉

carmine smelt
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I wanna do some more maths

willow sentinel
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I didnt save it 😭

carmine smelt
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oh

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oh well easy enough to make

willow sentinel
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But you see everything

carmine smelt
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Did your DPS consider duration?

obtuse bay
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what builds are using vitality

carmine smelt
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or was it just effectiveness per second per stack / how many stacks

carmine smelt
obtuse bay
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thats why they are tanky

willow sentinel
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And I was pretty chill on the number of stacks

carmine smelt
gentle mauve
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sentinel warpath spin to win

south moat
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I try warpath every now and then
I get bored of it very fast to be honest

simple bison
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Current:

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Teaser:

rancid pulsar
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well it feels like a 70% spell what can I say

simple bison
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That's fair, but yeah don't put another 2x modifier in your calculations :P

rancid pulsar
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right, right. make it a x3 instead

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the copium floweth

simple bison
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@carmine smelt for visibility to clarify

carmine smelt
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rip

rancid pulsar
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well I don't think I actually used 70 in what few calcs I did do over time so it's okay

simple bison
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I mean 140% is 1400% per 10 stacks which is nasty

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It's only weak because it doesn't have a tree

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A lot of skills even with just 200% or so ADE end up in the thousands of % effective ADE per use (ADE multiplied by tree damage modifiers)

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For example shatter strike has around 40 000% "effective added damage effectiveness" (I know it sounds dumb). Which would be the same as 285 stacks of fire aura

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Obviously the fire res node will make up for it a bit but not enough to close the gap by itself I don't think

willow sentinel
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So what you say is ... nerf Shatter Strike ??

simple bison
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No it's not even that good anymore stop lmao

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Which goes to show how ass fire aura is tbf

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Some skills get into the hundreds of thousands of EADE

rancid pulsar
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shatter strike is catching a lot of flak for being too good, when the real issue is everything else on spellblade is too bad lol

simple bison
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It caps out at around 50 mil DPS right now

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Which is not enough to warrant nerfing considering it's squishy

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And considering there's builds dealing 100 mil dps that are tankier

carmine smelt
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mage needs buffs confirmed

rancid pulsar
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yes unironically

simple bison
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I think mage could use more passive defenses honestly but overall it's not too weak. It just has a lot of outdated skills

chilly ember
carmine smelt
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The last time Mage was top was like 1.1, and that was one or two specific builds that fell apart completely when nerfed

rancid pulsar
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mage has very few "safe" options both on tree and in skills, if you go in without a specific plan it's just a very bad time

simple bison
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But it's simply not worth going full zhp

willow sentinel
chilly ember
simple bison
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Being able to survive in 2k corruption while still doing good damage is a lot better than doing a bit more damage but getting one shot by everything and its mother at 1k corruption

chilly ember
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with 2t7s you can break 100m last i tested

simple bison
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Yeah not that high

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T7 T5

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I'd need to retest tbh

carmine smelt
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Shatter surviving in 2k corruption?

simple bison
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I haven't checked DPS in a long time

simple bison
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And it doesn't tank 2k, by surviving I mean just that, being able to clear echoes without dying

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You can only take the occasional hit still

chilly ember
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70m on single t7s while not being full zhp is still pretty absurd damage IMO, even if there are other things that are orders of magnitude more

carmine smelt
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shatter > LB?

simple bison
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Meh for how squishy it is and considering it's melee it's nothing insane in today's LE

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But yeah it's a good build for sure

chilly ember
simple bison
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I'd actually recommend it to people now. When I used to have a guide I legit wrote at the start of the guide I didn't recommend it lol

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It's still not for everyone though

carmine smelt
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I'll play it, then it will get nerfed for sure

chilly ember
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the only reason that shatter usually ends up generally with lower dps is you end up having to give up a lot to get an acceptable amount of ehp

simple bison
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Yep

chilly ember
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compared to just having cfc

carmine smelt
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Ranged also just has higher uptime

simple bison
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I take some very intentional DPS hits for the sake of surviving

carmine smelt
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I glide around Uber fight while keeping DPS up

simple bison
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Yeah you gotta dodge pretty much everything

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Even basic attacks oneshot, even through flame ward depending on your ehp

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I can tank basic attacks with flame ward but yeah

carmine smelt
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that's squishier than my fractured crown setup lel

simple bison
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It's rough out here

chilly ember
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i can generally tank basic attack unless i go zhp

simple bison
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Once you get used to the fight it's not so bad though tbh

chilly ember
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but ik your setup is also much more based around dodge where i will never use dodge as anything other than an extremely auxilliary defensive layer even if the ehp is lower

simple bison
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Yep

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It's nice for echoes

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But can't be relied upon in boss fights

chilly ember
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wings in general is kinda a mapping item lol

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all the dodge combined with the first hit dr

simple bison
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Yep

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Super strong

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People sleep on it way too hard

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Even the idol thing is good

chilly ember
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it is but if you have actually good idols reliquary is just better

simple bison
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I think it's because people see a defensive item and ResidentSleeper instantly and go for the damage one that's barely better than a normal unique lol

chilly ember
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but the idol options for shatter are kinda mid and that helps

simple bison
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Yeah I use the 2x2 dodge and crit avoid enchant, it helps quite a bit and you just get more resists to help with mourningfrost

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I'm able to slot wide idols for the armour/mana and surge CD which is really nice

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The long ones are good for ward but meh

chilly ember
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i generally don't really run mourningfrost anymore tbh

simple bison
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Yeah it's not needed at all

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But it's just another tradeoff you can do

chilly ember
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like the damage increase honestly isn't that big for how much pressure it puts on suffixes and idols imo

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which are tight to begin with

simple bison
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I think it's fine now with wings of discord but yeah it is a lot of opportunity cost for sure

carmine smelt
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Mourningfrost good for hybrid that benefit from both the melee and spell tbh, it feels kinda troll otherwise unless you have a build with no flat and a bunch of multis

chilly ember
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rogue builds kinda depend on it a lot of the time with how limited their access to flat is

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especially with bows since you almost always need a crit slam at 1lp

carmine smelt
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yea rogue has a lot of dex scaling built in though

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even spell blade is kinda not that crazy

simple bison
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Meh it's like a 40% or so DPS increase

carmine smelt
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you get the crit but you'd be cap anyway eithout stupid amounts of dex

simple bison
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It doesn't double my dps or anything like some builds but it's definitely still a big chunk of dps

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Since you're dex stacking regardless

carmine smelt
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Sometimes SB feels like a different class

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weird mage

chilly ember
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in my testing i didn't generally find the dps increase to be as high as 40%

simple bison
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Yeah sb definitely is a bit of an outcast in the mage passive tree

simple bison
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I just don't play until 2 T7 and stuff

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Between CT and retail I'd get burnt out way too hard

chilly ember
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i mean flat isn't particularly hard to come by for shatter strike

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from passives weapons and innate scaling you're already well north of 300 with 1t7s

simple bison
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From memory (might be really wrong) you have like 350 without and 500 with

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At 150 or so dex