#installation-archived | Home Assistant | Page 83

humble mirage Apr 21, 2022, 9:38 AM

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Then check the log file

slim ridge Apr 21, 2022, 9:38 AM

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from cli ?

humble mirage Apr 21, 2022, 9:38 AM

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Or Samba

slim ridge Apr 21, 2022, 9:39 AM

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Could not find child 798 -- ignoring
Registered MSG_REQ_POOL_USAGE
Registered MSG_REQ_POOL_USAGE
Could not find child 800 -- ignoring

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samba

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what about ftp addon

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?

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it has no errors..

humble mirage Apr 21, 2022, 9:41 AM

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You can use them to check HA's log file

slim ridge Apr 21, 2022, 9:43 AM

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what do u mean by 'them'?

humble mirage Apr 21, 2022, 9:43 AM

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SSH add-on

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Samba add-on

slim ridge Apr 21, 2022, 9:43 AM

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ok..

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can i remove an addon from the cli?

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with command

humble mirage Apr 21, 2022, 9:45 AM

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No idea

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Add-ons are unlikely to stop HA from starting though

slim ridge Apr 21, 2022, 9:46 AM

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but u were asking about samba and ftp.. ahh just to check logs ?

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i thaught the addons can be reasons for it not to start

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sicne cli should be able to show logs, am running hyper-v

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i am in the samba btw where are the logs ?

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i got access to files in the hyper-v machine whats next?

humble mirage Apr 21, 2022, 9:57 AM

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slim ridge i am in the samba btw where are the logs ?

In your config folder

slim ridge Apr 21, 2022, 9:57 AM

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there is non

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shoudl i enable log in raspberry

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and then snapshot again

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?

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never mind

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i started the core manually from the cli

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and worked..

plush marlin Apr 21, 2022, 12:06 PM

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Anyone got any ideas why my HAOS on NUC wont even connect to the network (ethernet) after a power cut? Everything else is back but HA, running headless and the box is a bit of a pain to get to

latent thistle Apr 21, 2022, 12:19 PM

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this is how backup work

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https://i.ibb.co/Vx0HgdP/image.png

raw hedge Apr 21, 2022, 2:39 PM

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Ah MQTT broker won’t be an issue on my Kubernetes cluster, I was just worried about HA since I have to tie it to the host network

ruby gull Apr 21, 2022, 4:27 PM

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Evening everyone, I have a problem my homeassistant instance from many years just died.. suddenly just hangs when starting up. can restore backup because state is tarting up, I have a backup but cant restore state is starting up.. I have console access but state is still starting up core stop unknown error...

humble mirage Apr 21, 2022, 4:28 PM

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What's in the core logs?

abstract hearthBOT Apr 21, 2022, 4:28 PM

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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language)
https://www.codepile.net/ (select YAML as the language)
https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

ruby gull Apr 21, 2022, 4:30 PM

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nothing thats the problem.. no errors in supervisor logs.. last lines look ok and then nothing.. 22-04-21 19:17:50 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluate] System evaluation complete
22-04-21 19:17:55 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.api] Updated Home Assistant API token after I try like restart all is hanged.. and settings top logs there is 4 lines. need to restart to get them but installation just seems really slow..

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worked before latest update.. then messed up.. then going back not working

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now there is docker monitor connect error.. let me fix that

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ipv6 network error.. ipv4 worked but whole homeassistant hanged because of that.. not GOOD

rapid cairn Apr 21, 2022, 5:07 PM

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Feeling pretty silly, but how can I access (and edit) my config file if its running in a Docker container and Home Assistant OS

stoic quest Apr 21, 2022, 5:20 PM

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Hi. Complete noob here. Insteon died. Trying to get my first Raspberry Pi up and running Home Assistant. Got stuck trying to install balena etcher. Followed the link to github for the Debian installation. I copied and pasted the two strings into terminal. The first one seemed to work. The second came back with "E: Unable to locate package balena-etcher-electron" in the last line, I am stuck. Can one of you help me out? Thanks!🥴

crude inlet Apr 21, 2022, 5:23 PM

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@stoic quest You run Debian normally?

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On some computer you use daily?

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This is fine, just trying to clarify where you're at

stoic quest Apr 21, 2022, 5:25 PM

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Thank you! Brand new Rasp Pi (400). I haven't used a command line for many years. I actually had to search to find what operating system is running!

stoic quest Apr 21, 2022, 5:26 PM

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crude inlet <@856825639390412810> You run Debian normally?

Oops - should have replied to you: Thank you! Brand new Rasp Pi (400). I haven't used a command line for many years. I actually had to search to find what operating system is running!

crude inlet Apr 21, 2022, 5:26 PM

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Well, you install etcher on whatever computer you use normally

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It is used to flash the image to an SD card, and then you put that SD card in the RPi

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You don't install etcher to the Pi

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And you don't have to use etcher. There are other ways to flash the image to the SD. Etcher is just the suggested app

stoic quest Apr 21, 2022, 5:28 PM

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crude inlet Well, you install etcher on whatever computer you use normally

OK. I think I understand. I use a macbook air M1 normally. So install etcher there and flash the image to a SD?

crude inlet Apr 21, 2022, 5:29 PM

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yes

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You might need a usb adapter for the SD

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Does the macbook air have an sd slot?

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or actually...usb ports even?

stoic quest Apr 21, 2022, 5:30 PM

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crude inlet yes

Thank you so much! I will get to work on that. (Got the USB adapter; no slot on the MBA)

humble mirage Apr 21, 2022, 6:06 PM

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rapid cairn Feeling pretty silly, but how can I access (and edit) my config file if its runn...

If you're using Home Assistant OS then you have add-ons for that https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#configuring-access-to-files

rapid cairn Apr 21, 2022, 6:13 PM

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humble mirage If you're using Home Assistant OS then you have add-ons for that <https://www.ho...

sorry, I mean in a container mode.

humble mirage Apr 21, 2022, 6:14 PM

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Then you have loads of choices

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vim or nano on the host

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Samba

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https://docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-code-server

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And more

latent thistle Apr 21, 2022, 6:41 PM

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Does usb3 holds any advantage running HAOS on rpi 4 using a Stata SSD compared to Usb2?

humble mirage Apr 21, 2022, 6:44 PM

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Other than speed...

vocal atlas Apr 21, 2022, 6:48 PM

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Power supply maybe. If the ssd does randomly drop performance on usb2 then usb3 might provide more stability

unkempt crow Apr 21, 2022, 6:48 PM

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usb3 can supply more amps

latent thistle Apr 21, 2022, 11:23 PM

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I have strange issue. I am using star tech usb to SATA adapter with Adata S750 256 GB ssd, on rpi 4 running HA. Since it is connected to USB3 port, It effects the connection between my wifi router and solar inverter. Which I solved by moving the rpi4 to a different location.
Secondly it effects my plane tracking stick, it's range decreases significantly.

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How do I migitate this issue?

amber iron Apr 22, 2022, 1:14 AM

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hi, im trying to build home assistant with pip install homeassistant and i keep getting stuck on cryptography. im pretty sure its omsething to do with rust and ive tried unstaill and uninstalling it like 10 different ways and it still isnt working. heres as much of the error log as i can fit on screen. id copy it but i cant how i have things set up right now

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..having difficulty with my screenshotting tool

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just kidding i cant upload pictures here

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https://i.imgur.com/PKMuIt4.png

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best i can do rn

brisk willow Apr 22, 2022, 2:26 AM

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Have you considered HA Container instead @amber iron? No need to worry about deps with that method

amber iron Apr 22, 2022, 2:29 AM

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the only device i have rn is an android device running linux through linux deploy, it doesnt support docker, im pretty sure

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oterhwise id be happy to, but raspberry pis are way too scare and hard to find rn 😅

spare cape Apr 22, 2022, 3:53 AM

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hi I need some help I can't conect home assistant to wifi

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 6:15 AM

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amber iron hi, im trying to build home assistant with pip install homeassistant and i keep ...

The error (images of text are a horrible thing) is pretty clear - you need to install rust

amber iron Apr 22, 2022, 6:16 AM

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yeah ive tried like 5 different ways

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 6:17 AM

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Well, that's a problem with your OS, and others have found that the whole "Linux on Android" thing is ... underwhelming

amber iron Apr 22, 2022, 6:17 AM

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yeah, it definitely is, im trying to work with what i got 😅

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i got it up and running before, so i probably just screwed something up

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ill just start over i guess lol

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 6:17 AM

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Just about any 64 bit capable system from the last decade will be a better choice

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Buy something off of eBay/whatever

amber iron Apr 22, 2022, 6:18 AM

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good point yeah. just want something i can keep always on, but yeah i should find something else

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 6:18 AM

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I use an 8 or 9 year old laptop

spare cape Apr 22, 2022, 9:24 AM

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how do I connect my home assistant server to the network using WIFI because I don't have a Ethernet cable

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 9:25 AM

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Are you using Home Assistant OS?

spare cape Apr 22, 2022, 9:26 AM

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yes

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hassio right ?

abstract hearthBOT Apr 22, 2022, 9:26 AM

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Hass.io was the old name for the appliance like install option, that uses Docker. It was renamed in January 2020 and is now called Home Assistant OS.

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 9:27 AM

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Not for over two years, no 😛

spare cape Apr 22, 2022, 9:27 AM

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ok i am using ha os

spare cape Apr 22, 2022, 9:34 AM

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humble mirage Not for over two years, no 😛

help now

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 9:35 AM

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Patience

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I don't use HAOS, I can't help you. You have to wait for somebody who does

spare cape Apr 22, 2022, 9:36 AM

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🤦🏻 ok

round swan Apr 22, 2022, 9:59 AM

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Hi all, I think I'm stuck with this issue: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/69620

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I posted in the github issue my stalled processes. Anyone can help me out of this?

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 10:05 AM

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One option may be to drop the database and start fresh

round swan Apr 22, 2022, 10:08 AM

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Hahaha, that's not a realistic option. Then I need to redo my whole setup

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And Hass doesn't let me restart even...

spare cape Apr 22, 2022, 10:10 AM

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humble mirage Patience

i got it

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it works now

round swan Apr 22, 2022, 10:46 AM

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I restored 2022.3.8, hope there will be a fix for these 2022.4 DB upgrade errors.

latent thistle Apr 22, 2022, 12:22 PM

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can I move backup from rpi4 to intel NUC?

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HAOS to HAOS

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 12:22 PM

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Yes

latent thistle Apr 22, 2022, 12:24 PM

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what is the recommended hardware for the intel nuc?

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aka specs

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cpu ram ssd

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 12:26 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64#install-home-assistant-operating-system has some details

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The system must be 64-bit capable and able to boot using UEFI
After that it's largely down to what you want to do with it

latent thistle Apr 22, 2022, 12:29 PM

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humble mirage > The system must be 64-bit capable and able to boot using UEFI After that it's ...

minimum power consumption max performance for running frigate

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 12:29 PM

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https://docs.frigate.video/hardware/#server

grand pivot Apr 22, 2022, 2:19 PM

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round swan Hahaha, that's not a realistic option. Then I need to redo my whole setup

You only lose state history if you drop the database. In no way do you need to 'redo your whole setup'.

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:07 PM

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Hi all, getting stuck here: https://i.imgur.com/2NI3mdc.png

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https://i.imgur.com/EWIPPLV.png - hass won't boot

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Done everything up until this point correctly

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Installing core on a fresh SD and fresh pi

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Using ssh

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With ubuntu terminal

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But I actually have no idea what I'm doing other than following tutorials

dawn flame Apr 22, 2022, 3:17 PM

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Isn't Ubuntu an unsupported installation?

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:18 PM

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I've installed raspbian and using ubuntu terminal from my windows 11 pc to ssh

past lagoon Apr 22, 2022, 3:18 PM

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Got a question about running Zwave2mqtt twice on the same server to migrate my devices from an old Aeotec S2 (300 series) stick to my new Aeotec 700 stick.

I just migrated over to Z2M from the old deprecated Zwave integration and have everything working great. I run HA in a docker container, as well as Z2M. I'm hoping I can run a second container with another instance of Z2M and hook up my new Aeotec 7 stick to it so I can slowly move all the devices off the old stick, on to the new stick, and eventually remove the old instance of Z2M. Hope that makes sense.

My issue is that I can't seem to get the 2nd instance of Z2M to run on a different port. Is something wrong with my docker-compose.yml?

abstract hearthBOT Apr 22, 2022, 3:18 PM

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@past lagoon posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/iqayadahiy

grand pivot Apr 22, 2022, 3:19 PM

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hallow epoch Using ssh

the whole thing just looks sketchy. it looks like you're trying to install HA in a venv, which is almost the last thing that I would recommend for someone who doesn't know what they're doing and is just following tutorials

abstract hearthBOT Apr 22, 2022, 3:19 PM

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@past lagoon Rule #6: Please do not post codewalls (text longer than 15 lines) - use sites such as https://dpaste.org/ (pick YAML for the language), https://www.codepile.net/ (pick YAML for the language), or https://paste.debian.net/ (pick YAML for the language).

Please take the time now to review all of the rules and references in #rules.

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:19 PM

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You also wanted the #zwave-archived channel

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:19 PM

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dawn flame Isn't Ubuntu an unsupported installation?

Unsupported for Supervised

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:20 PM

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grand pivot the whole thing just looks sketchy. it looks like you're trying to install HA i...

I'll second this - use Container or HAOS

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If you really want to use Core at least follow the official docs

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi#install-home-assistant-core

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:21 PM

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@grand pivot I downloaded raspbian installer, flashed it to an SD card using it's own thing, plugged it into a brand new pi4, connected to it through ssh using the ubuntu terminal and followed this exact process: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi#install-home-assistant-core

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:21 PM

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Doesn't look like you did

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:21 PM

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Lmao

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I know right

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:22 PM

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For a start, that image (really, images of text... abkneonno ) shows you didn't activate the venv to start HA

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:22 PM

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I literally copy pasted sudo apt-get install -y python3 python3-dev python3-venv python3-pip libffi-dev libssl-dev libjpeg-dev zlib1g-dev autoconf build-essential libopenjp2-7 libtiff5 libturbojpeg0-dev tzdata

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:23 PM

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How much experience do you have building software from source, and troubleshooting that?

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:23 PM

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I have extreme google and fuck with it until it works experience

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:23 PM

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Right, so fuck all

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:23 PM

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But otherwise none

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lmao

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:23 PM

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This is the wrong install method for you

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Switch to Container

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi#install-home-assistant-container

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:24 PM

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I need certain node red functions though

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:24 PM

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So?

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That's not HA

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:24 PM

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Yeah but they only work on core

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:24 PM

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You can run HA in Docker just fine

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Well, that's more than a bit shit ... you're going to have a lot of learning

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:25 PM

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Ive done it before, i'm rebuilding from scratch and I hit this error

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:25 PM

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For a start, any time you interact with the command line for HA you have to activate the venv as the user running HA

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sudo -u homeassistant -H -s
source /srv/homeassistant/bin/activate
... your commands here

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You'll be installing Python 3.10 from source in December, and building a new venv then FYI

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:26 PM

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Can I sreenshare?

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:26 PM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/autostart-using-systemd/199497 is something you're gonna need too

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:26 PM

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Sorry I'm like 31 and haven't used the internet properly since forums were a thing

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:27 PM

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So, youngster then 😛

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:27 PM

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I stopped at diablo 2

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=/

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:27 PM

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I'd dig into why you need Core for those node red functions - most #node-red-archived folks don't run Core

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Everybody has the software called Core, but only 4% of HA installs use that install method

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:30 PM

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Well I logged into ssh right

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The reason I need core is cos of BLE scanning

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In node red

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:38 PM

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I'm confused then

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If it's being done in NR then HA is irrelevant and you can use Container

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If it's being done by HA, then presumably you're using one of HA's native integrations?

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:42 PM

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https://flows.nodered.org/node/node-red-contrib-noble

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I need this thing

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:42 PM

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Right, so ... that has nothing to do with how you run HA

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Nothing there says requires Home Assistant

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How you run Node Red may matter

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:43 PM

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Nah but doing the ha install

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on the sd card

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instead of using core

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means i cant run node red separate

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to install that

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:43 PM

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Sure you can, use Container

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#installation-archived message

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Your future self will be grateful that you actually listened

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:44 PM

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Thank you sir

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https://tenor.com/view/running-home-bugs-bunny-jump-hiding-gif-8509983

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While I've got you

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502 bad gatewat

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gateway

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node red

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 3:46 PM

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#node-red-archived

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They can help you with NR there, not here

hallow epoch Apr 22, 2022, 3:46 PM

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Thanks

sterile plover Apr 22, 2022, 3:53 PM

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My HomeAssistant OS on the pi3 just fell off the network entirely overnight. When I look at it, the flash drive it's running from (since the SD card kept becoming excruciatingly slow) isn't blinking at all. I unplugged the drive and checked out the journal on it, and there's nothing relevant that would explain why it fell off.

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Is there a way to configure it to send syslog over the network?

latent thistle Apr 22, 2022, 4:01 PM

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why can't we HAOS with MAC M1?

crude inlet Apr 22, 2022, 4:03 PM

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You want to replace MacOS with HAOS?

sterile plover Apr 22, 2022, 4:06 PM

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I'm tempted to run the dang thing from an old hard drive, because SD cards sure aren't working well.

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I have an eMMC SD card thing on order, but it's shipping from the UK, so who knows when it will arrive.

crude inlet Apr 22, 2022, 4:09 PM

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is this a thumb drive?

sterile plover Apr 22, 2022, 4:09 PM

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Yeah, the drive I tried is one.

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The SD card that was becoming excruciatingly slow is a Samsung 32GB drive, I think UHS-1.

crude inlet Apr 22, 2022, 4:09 PM

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Those tend to be much slower

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A USB flash drive that is

sterile plover Apr 22, 2022, 4:09 PM

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The SD card went slow, the flash drive actually failed completely.

crude inlet Apr 22, 2022, 4:09 PM

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They also get really hot in my experience

sterile plover Apr 22, 2022, 4:10 PM

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Like, the OS stopped even requesting its DHCP lease, so the hostname couldn't be resolved.

crude inlet Apr 22, 2022, 4:10 PM

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A usb SSD would be better

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I'd use SD over a USB flash drive

sterile plover Apr 22, 2022, 4:11 PM

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The SD card went to something like taking 40 or more seconds to open some of the settings pages.

sterile plover Apr 22, 2022, 5:13 PM

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Will HAOS boot from a USB drive with 4k sectors, on a pi 3? I have a small SD card with only bootcode.bin, and the USB drive. Seems like most NVMe USB enclosures have 4k sectors, not 512-byte sectors.

grave hazel Apr 22, 2022, 5:32 PM

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Hello! Did anyone manage to install HA on an asus tinker board 2s?

halcyon ingot Apr 22, 2022, 6:07 PM

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Hi everyone I’m trying to install home Assistant on a virtual machine and it gets stuck add CLI screen

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I did search all the forums I tried V PN I tried it on another computer and I got same on all of them

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Has anybody experienced this before

carmine pumice Apr 22, 2022, 7:01 PM

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Hello folk, I'm another Insteon user who is trying to get Home assistant up and running. I purchased an Odroid N2+ and flashed the Home assistant image to a 64GB SD card. when the system boots I see "[mmcblk1p1] Procesing new Disk device" and nothing else happens. Suggestion? Solutions?

high token Apr 22, 2022, 7:02 PM

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Did you flash the odroid image?

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there are multiple images depending on the hardware

carmine pumice Apr 22, 2022, 7:03 PM

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https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/download/7.6/haos_odroid-n2-7.6.img.xz

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Is there a different image for the n2+?

high token Apr 22, 2022, 7:08 PM

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no that would be the onne

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where do you have the switch on the board?

carmine pumice Apr 22, 2022, 7:09 PM

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to the left

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SPI

high token Apr 22, 2022, 7:09 PM

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put it to MMC

crude inlet Apr 22, 2022, 7:11 PM

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after you power it off, and then flip

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did you try to get an emmc for it? hard to find?

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I've got an N2 here. I'll try an SD install

high token Apr 22, 2022, 7:14 PM

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I've boot other OS from SD in the past, but never HAOS

carmine pumice Apr 22, 2022, 7:15 PM

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Looks like progress. but it stops at Home Assistant command line

crude inlet Apr 22, 2022, 7:15 PM

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That's normal, depending on what you mean by stop

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There's no desktop/UI you would expect to see

carmine pumice Apr 22, 2022, 7:16 PM

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no, looks like it's waiting for input

crude inlet Apr 22, 2022, 7:16 PM

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You would now open a browser on some other device on your network and try to reach homeassistant.local:8123

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it doesn't wait for input. if you have it connected with ethernet it is continuing to setup in the background

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Normally you wouldn't even need to connect a display

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unless there is some lower level issue you need to fix

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This is true of any installation of HA on anything. It's a headless server, you access it through a webpage

carmine pumice Apr 22, 2022, 7:19 PM

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Give me a minute. I need to connect to an ethernet port

crude inlet Apr 22, 2022, 7:19 PM

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ah if it wasn't connected then it's not setting up

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it has to download images which run as containers which make up the ecosystem

carmine pumice Apr 22, 2022, 7:22 PM

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im rebooting with the ethernet connection

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ok. It appears to be loading for the HA.local:8123 now thanks for the help

crude inlet Apr 22, 2022, 7:26 PM

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you can click on the blue dot for logs

carmine pumice Apr 22, 2022, 7:28 PM

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thanks. it says it will take 20 minutes.

crude inlet Apr 22, 2022, 7:29 PM

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it can be faster. I just booted mine with SD and will see

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@carmine pumice done? Mine just finished and is at the user creation page

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So that was only 5 min or so

carmine pumice Apr 22, 2022, 7:38 PM

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I just finsihed.

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Thanks again for the help, have a great day.

noble umbra Apr 22, 2022, 8:08 PM

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Is this the right channel to troubleshoot insteon hub connections?

humble mirage Apr 22, 2022, 8:13 PM

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That'd be #integrations-archived

amber iron Apr 22, 2022, 10:19 PM

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how do i access homeassistant.local on a device other than the one the vm is installed on

harsh solstice Apr 22, 2022, 10:27 PM

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amber iron how do i access homeassistant.local on a device other than the one the vm is ins...

can you get to it via IP address? i think the default port is 8123.. so http://youripaddy:8123

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where youripaddy is the ip address of your home assistant device

amber iron Apr 22, 2022, 10:28 PM

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ok its working now, idk why it wasnt working before

hallow epoch Apr 23, 2022, 4:33 AM

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humble mirage Your future self will be grateful that you actually listened

Hi, I just came back here to let you know that you are 100% correct and thankyou for preventing me going down a deep dark path.

simple sierra Apr 23, 2022, 7:57 AM

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Hi everyone! I am still using (lol) homeassistant on a proud raspberry 1.
I have a nice raspi 4 but I keep postponing the change because I have a lot of stuff to move and moving would... Kill my house for some time.
Is there any safe way to "migrate"?
I also have Alexa and I use the Philips hue emulation for integration... Will this cause problems?

Thanks!

viscid sigil Apr 23, 2022, 8:17 AM

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Create a full backup of your running system. Copy it off the system. Load up home assistant on the new system and restore from the saved backup. Shut down the old system. You should be offline for less than minutes.

plain fjord Apr 23, 2022, 12:44 PM

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Hey, beginner here, read through a bunch of documentation, watched tons of youtube videos but still not quite sure on the installation.. I have a Lenovo m92P mini PC with sufficient system requirements. I tried flashing the generic image to an sd card but it just boots up from that device. I want this mini pc to be a standalone HA server and I don't wanna use VM on win

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what do I do??

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is there like a live ubunte system I could "ghost" to my Mini PC?

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with HA already installed?

viscid sigil Apr 23, 2022, 1:13 PM

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plain fjord Hey, beginner here, read through a bunch of documentation, watched tons of youtu...

Use this install method: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64

glossy thorn Apr 23, 2022, 1:30 PM

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so I have an old android lying around, and I thought it'd be beneficial to put it to use rather than buying an rpi for this
I'm trying to follow an installation guide I found for Android tablets (https://community.home-assistant.io/t/home-assistant-core-on-android-tablet/250174)
but I keep running into this issue:

"failed to build cryptography, requires rust >= 1.41"
so I installed rust, but then I get "invalid target, set the cargo build target env variable"

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any way to build it on android

valid heart Apr 23, 2022, 2:35 PM

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Hi, HA Blue user here. All been fine for months and can view HA fine. It’s been updated successfully multiple times in the past. However, now when I try I get the error 'OSManager.update' blocked from execution, no supervisor internet connection.

Been like this for a few weeks, searched around and found a few similar issues but not on Blue and nothing I’ve tried has got me any further.

Under Info, it was saying the system is not healthy, but is now seemingly looping with nothing displayed apart from spinning circle. I’ve tried rebooting and restarting everything numerous times and also tried to update from terminal, but nothing changes. Can ping google.com from terminal with no issues and can access the dashboard from phone with everything seemingly functioning fine.

Supervisor itself does seem to have updated as it is on supervisor-2022.03.5 but Core-2021.11.1 and OS 6.6 are several iterations behind now.

After a shutdown and restart, the log has several warnings and one error which I can provide, but not sure if this is right place.

Where is the best place to get help?, and if here, let me know what additional info would be useful.
Ta

placid sage Apr 23, 2022, 2:40 PM

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Hi I want to back up config from a HA core to a HAOS in a VMM. Is this the right channel to ask?

jovial rampart Apr 23, 2022, 3:56 PM

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Create a backup, either through the UI or by copying the entire contents of your config folder including hidden files/folder. Install the new method and either restore the backup or copy the config folder to the new install including all hidden files and folders. Delete the virtual environment.

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Of course, if possible, I try to do the installs on two different mediums so I can always go back to the old install if needed.

tribal sedge Apr 23, 2022, 4:06 PM

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Struggling after ssd failure. I’ve imaged the latest HA OS, but when it boots it doesn’t get an ipv4 address just a single ivp6 address. I’ve disabled ipv6 on my router. I’ve tried several different cards and ssd all with the same result. If I connect Ethernet directly to my MacBook Pro sharing its Internet connection over it, it will get an IPv4 address from the Mac.

placid sage Apr 23, 2022, 4:43 PM

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@jovial rampart thanks for your answer, I cannot find backup in the UI. This seems to be in supervisor menu which my install is missing (core). The HAOS proposes to use a backup file when you start it first time, but it requires a file and how to make that file from the old HA core instance?

jovial rampart Apr 23, 2022, 5:27 PM

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Upgrade to 2022.4 and look in the configuration menu

placid sage Apr 23, 2022, 5:55 PM

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I also cannot find any upgrade control in the UI, is that normal? Otherwise, how do I do it? It is a SPK for Synology NAS, originating from synocommunity (yes, big mistake to start with that, i very much regret. HS core is CRIPPLED and the version maintained by syno community is way back)

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 6:03 PM

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You only have a UI option for upgrades if you run HAOS or Supervised

placid sage Apr 23, 2022, 6:04 PM

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so how could I do? Totally lost here

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 6:04 PM

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No idea how you'd upgrade - I suspect you get to wait for the developer of that package to get around to it

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Otherwise, back up your config folder, and then restore it to your new HAOS install

placid sage Apr 23, 2022, 6:06 PM

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how do I backup: just copy files or tar or what else? Then, The new HAOS instance requres a backup file, how to do it, what format, etc.

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 6:06 PM

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Copy all the files and folders, including all the hidden ones

placid sage Apr 23, 2022, 6:07 PM

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ruight

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 6:07 PM

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You don't need a backup to restore - you can simply copy the files over the config folder in the new install, with HA stopped of course

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You'll want the SSH and Samba add-ons

placid sage Apr 23, 2022, 6:08 PM

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the new isntal is HAOS working on the VM manager of NAS. How do I access its config folder?

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I know its IP adress though

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 6:08 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#configuring-access-to-files

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SSH and Samba add-ons, as I said

placid sage Apr 23, 2022, 6:09 PM

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ah samba on the new one, okkkk!

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 6:09 PM

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Yup, I have no idea how you access files on Synology, for that you're on your own

placid sage Apr 23, 2022, 6:10 PM

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that's all right, I have access to the config folder. Many thanks, it looks doable.

placid sage Apr 23, 2022, 7:20 PM

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Follow-up: trying to copy the config from a synology NAS synocommunity package for HA Core 2021.9.7. I stopped the SPK in in the synology DSM interface (package manager).
I use the tar command to make a backup of whole config directory, but 5 files cannot be accessed because of permission problems:
tar: ./.storage/core.uuid: Cannot open: Permission denied
tar: ./.storage/auth_provider.homeassistant: Cannot open: Permission denied
tar: ./.storage/onboarding: Cannot open: Permission denied
tar: ./.storage/auth_module.totp: Cannot open: Permission denied
tar: ./.storage/core.config: Cannot open: Permission denied
tar: ./.storage/auth: Cannot open: Permission denied
Is that a problem?

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 7:33 PM

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It's only a problem if you want to have a working install when you restore all the other files

undone sentinel Apr 23, 2022, 7:38 PM

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How come after I updated my home assistant my mp3 files are no longer there ?

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 7:39 PM

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Where did you store them?

undone sentinel Apr 23, 2022, 7:40 PM

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In the media folder

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Local media

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 7:40 PM

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AFAIK that should be a volume on the host, so .. shrug

undone sentinel Apr 23, 2022, 7:41 PM

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Wel there gone checked and double checked and I know I did not delete them 🤔

plain fjord Apr 23, 2022, 7:43 PM

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viscid sigil Use this install method: <https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86...

Thanks! I went through this documentation step by step, flashing the image to my usb drive but balena got stuck and wrecked it.. I tried it again with Rufus, plugged it into my mini PC and it booted up, but I think it was running from my usb drive instead of doing like an OS install on the mini PC. I pulled the drive and obviously my HA crashed. I'm looking for a solution where I can have my mini PC running an ubuntu + ha installed

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 7:43 PM

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Ubuntu + HA in Docker is fine - no add-ons, no Supervisor

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#install-home-assistant-container is the guide, and I'd strongly recommend you use Docker Compose as it'll make your life a lot easier

plain fjord Apr 23, 2022, 7:46 PM

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I've never worked with Docker before that's why I'm a bit hesitant. For testing purposes I put together a VM on a laptop, with the HA OS image and basically I want the same thing just on a standalone pc instead of VM

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 7:47 PM

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Then you need HAOS, either installed directly, or on a VM on Ubuntu (KVM)

plain fjord Apr 23, 2022, 7:47 PM

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"Then you need HAOS, either installed directly"

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this is what I want, how do I do it? 😄

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 7:47 PM

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#installation-archived message

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You need to flash the drive in the PC

plain fjord Apr 23, 2022, 7:48 PM

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I should grab a fresh Ubuntu image install it and then install HA OS through Ubuntu?

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 7:48 PM

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Well, no, you can't really do that

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If you install an OS to the PC then you can't use it to replace itself

plain fjord Apr 23, 2022, 7:49 PM

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I followed those steps, but it just runs from my memory card and not from the SSD in the mini PC

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like it doesn't install anything

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 7:49 PM

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Then you flashed it to the wrong device

plain fjord Apr 23, 2022, 7:49 PM

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just boots up the system from my sd card

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but I can't flash it to the mini PC's SSD

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 7:49 PM

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Take the disk out of the PC, connect it to a USB adapter, flash it from your laptop/whatever

plain fjord Apr 23, 2022, 7:50 PM

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or should I take it apart, get the SSD out, plug it into my PC, then flash it?

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ah ok

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gotcha

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 7:50 PM

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The other option is to boot from a live CD that gives you the ability to flash from there

plain fjord Apr 23, 2022, 7:52 PM

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balena wasn't working nice. Tried flashing 2 times, both from URL and file and both got stuck

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does Rufus do the same thing right?

humble mirage Apr 23, 2022, 7:53 PM

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Haven't used it, I'd guess so

harsh solstice Apr 23, 2022, 8:05 PM

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plain fjord does Rufus do the same thing right?

it should

placid sage Apr 23, 2022, 8:23 PM

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humble mirage It's only a problem if you want to have a working install when you restore all t...

Then it's a problem, because I do not want a broken install . What may be the consequences?

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did not sudo! Duh. Thanks @humble mirage my tar ball is complete now.

dire hawk Apr 23, 2022, 9:48 PM

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Hello :)
Can i ask what revers proxy you use in with docker-compose install ?
I am pulling my hair out with this... first time doing a stack and i try treafik for now ....

I don't see how docker is easier than core but i have to make something stable before i leave the house

fierce timber Apr 23, 2022, 11:03 PM

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How I get wifi working

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Intel nuc NUC11ATKPE with Intel AC9462

jovial rampart Apr 23, 2022, 11:26 PM

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dire hawk Hello :) Can i ask what revers proxy you use in with docker-compose install ? I ...

Use the swag container.

native fiber Apr 23, 2022, 11:26 PM

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How to I shutdown the HA from the ha command prompt (ha >) ?

grand pivot Apr 23, 2022, 11:28 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#home-assistant

native fiber Apr 23, 2022, 11:30 PM

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Thanks, RobC.

plain fjord Apr 23, 2022, 11:58 PM

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humble mirage Haven't used it, I'd guess so

Hey, so I just wasted few hours of relaxing sleep to try to set this up but no luck. Here's what I've tried so far:
First I didn't want to take the mini PC apart to get to the SSD so I tried a WINPE ( by Sergei ) to boot up and then flash the SSD from within. Unfortunately balenaetcher was acting up again and the flashing failed several times.
Then decided to take the mini PC apart, plugged it into my desktop PC.
Deleted all the partitions of the SSD formatted it into a blank NTFS.
Then ran balenaEtcher, flashed the image ( tried both from URL and from File ), desktop turn off, unplug SSD, toss it back into the miniPC, secure boot disabled, UEFI on, and I'm getting no OS error message ( 1962 no operating system ). What I noticed is that when I turn the PC on and BIOS loads in it logs some stuff on the screen and says SATA1: None - like it doesn't see my SSD on SATA1. Any Idea? It's 2AM and this s...t is killing me..

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Rufus is somewhat similar to balenaEtcher btw, but it can't flash SSDs only USB devices

humble mirage Apr 24, 2022, 9:46 AM

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plain fjord Hey, so I just wasted few hours of relaxing sleep to try to set this up but no l...

No idea, I don't use HAOS and you'll need somebody else who does to help with this

tiny matrix Apr 24, 2022, 9:50 AM

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Hi!
Short question, why does my supervisor not find an update? On GH-Release page the latest is 2022.04.02 and mine is 2022.04.0?
Also ha supervisor update doesn't update (maybe because for the system there isn't any available)

copper jolt Apr 24, 2022, 10:10 AM

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guys anyone have a sql query for finding out the excessive logging in my state_attributes table for mariaDB?

high token Apr 24, 2022, 12:24 PM

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tiny matrix Hi! Short question, why does my supervisor not find an update? On GH-Release pag...

HA looks for the latest stable versions here https://version.home-assistant.io/stable.json

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this still points to 2022.04.0

dire hawk Apr 24, 2022, 2:40 PM

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dire hawk Hello :) Can i ask what revers proxy you use in with docker-compose install ? I ...

any input on this ?

humble mirage Apr 24, 2022, 2:40 PM

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https://docs.linuxserver.io/general/swag

upper wren Apr 24, 2022, 2:58 PM

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I've just installed the HA on my RPi 3 B+, is it possible to add a CPU temperature card to my dashboard?

humble mirage Apr 24, 2022, 3:03 PM

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First step will be getting an integration to pull that into HA

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#integrations-archived can help with that

limpid talon Apr 24, 2022, 3:46 PM

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Hi! I'm trying to trigger a scene from another scene, but I noticed the state of scenes are a date and they are saved incorrectly in the scenes.yaml. Example:

scene.movie_time_end:
  friendly_name: Movie time end
  state: '2022-04-24T11:58:00.169821+00:00'

I've tried to fix this by changing it to state: {{ now() }} or something but I cannot get it to work... How can I activate a scene from another scene?

humble mirage Apr 24, 2022, 3:47 PM

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#automations-archived is the channel for scenes, but I'd expect you need to set the state to on, given that it uses the scene.turn_on service

limpid talon Apr 24, 2022, 3:48 PM

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humble mirage <#672220450977349653> is the channel for scenes, but I'd expect you need to set ...

I'm not using scene.turn_on so I'll try that! And I'll post in #automations-archived if I have further questions 😅 Thanks

sweet flame Apr 24, 2022, 5:41 PM

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Hi, reposting from #general-archived , accordingly to the suggestion. Hi. Im struggling with launching HAOS on stock rpi4. Etched the image on SD, placed the card in rpi, plugged the power supply (gan 40w) ,and nothing happens. Like literally nothing. HDMI output dead. No blinking on the board. Ethernet device shows up on the router for a few seconds and then gone. Oj the same device and the same card,im successfully running octopi and raspbian. How come this doesn't work ? Tried several releases of HAOS , including 7.6 and 8 rc2. Anyone else had this problem ?

high token Apr 24, 2022, 6:23 PM

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@sweet flame in 9 out of 10 cases I've seen this is when the image for the wrong RPi is flashed

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RPiOS has one image for all Pis whereas HA has specific images for each Pi

sweet flame Apr 24, 2022, 7:07 PM

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Thanks , meanwhile i figured this out. You are right as he'll and it's a shame to make such mistake, but iv took rpi4 image and tried to run it on rpi3

plain fjord Apr 24, 2022, 7:55 PM

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I wanted to install HAOS on a Lenovo m92p with the generic image but it might not work. Found others dealing with the same issue and there's a pretty slim chance I can make this work. What's the next best method ( least amount of maintenance, less limitations, etc.. ) to install HA on a standalone mini PC ?

humble mirage Apr 24, 2022, 7:56 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64#install-home-assistant-container

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No add-ons, but you can install software other ways anyway

plain fjord Apr 24, 2022, 7:57 PM

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ty

young halo Apr 24, 2022, 8:41 PM

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What settings did you mess with im in the same boat

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Does anyone know where Port settings are on Netgear Ruter. Im trying to set default port for my Pi to 8123 for Home Assistant install.

humble mirage Apr 24, 2022, 8:56 PM

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https://portforward.com/ has some good guides

young halo Apr 24, 2022, 9:10 PM

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humble mirage <https://portforward.com/> has some good guides

Can someone show me there router settings for home assistant. Especially DNS settings?

humble mirage Apr 24, 2022, 9:12 PM

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You just forward port ... whatever (often 443) to 8123

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DNS is rarely involved on the router

young halo Apr 24, 2022, 9:16 PM

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ok how do I find the port settings to forward 443 to 8123 in Netgear Router settings?

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https://1drv.ms/u/s!Alry9BRRIlhuiwptWbgiLaukbx2m?e=DfoYQN

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Does anyone know how to bang there head against a wall?

pine orbit Apr 24, 2022, 9:34 PM

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Presumably you click on add custom service, specify your home assistant instance's ip address for internal ip, and set external port to 443 or whatever, and the internal port to 8123 or whatever.

young halo Apr 24, 2022, 9:42 PM

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pine orbit Presumably you click on add custom service, specify your home assistant instance...

ok thanks. Setting up home assistant supervised is like trying to shoot the dick off a fly from 2000 yards! At least for me guess I need someone from MIT to remote access my computer and get this up and running for me.

pine orbit Apr 24, 2022, 9:46 PM

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The fact that exposing your instance to the public internet is painful and complicated for those not particularly familiar with with low level networking, is the whole reason why Nabu Casa offers the home assistant cloud remote UI feature. I use it despite being perfectly capable of doing it the manually way, since I simply can't be bothered to do the work.

crude inlet Apr 24, 2022, 9:46 PM

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"how to forward ports for router <insert model here>" is not MIT stuff

young halo Apr 24, 2022, 9:47 PM

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https://1drv.ms/u/s!Alry9BRRIlhuiws-_68UA-H-kODb?e=tkbR8u

young halo Apr 24, 2022, 9:47 PM

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crude inlet "how to forward ports for router <insert model here>" is not MIT stuff

Im just trying to get this up and running was trying to tell my router to look for 8123 because it keeps giving me server errors

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Im doing trial and error I already went through all the walk throughs and offical guides dotting my I's and crossing my T's

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Anyone want to use teamviewer and take a look at my setup please let me know I'll Venmo you

young halo Apr 24, 2022, 10:08 PM

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pine orbit The fact that exposing your instance to the public internet is painful and compl...

I would love to get Nabu Casa but I cant install a program on a rasberry Pi and get it to work!

bright peak Apr 24, 2022, 10:45 PM

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hey hey, i'm having some issues re-installing homeassistant OS, my disk always fills up to 100% and HA Supervisor refuses to start, any ideas ?
I'm installing it using the QCow2 image

simple sierra Apr 24, 2022, 11:05 PM

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@viscid sigil
Hi and thanks for the hint...
How can I take a full backup of HA on raspi 1 that will be compatible with the new install on raspi 4?

manic saffron Apr 24, 2022, 11:38 PM

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hi, i am new to HA.
i am using home assistant on virtual box and im trying to log in on the website.

i am not able to find the ipv4.
i am not able to start the website to put my ip adress

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:03 AM

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manic saffron hi, i am new to HA. i am using home assistant on virtual box and im trying to lo...

it should be the ip address:8123 and it should show the ip in the console

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:04 AM

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orchid pebble it should be the ip address:8123 and it should show the ip in the console

i sent an image in #frontend-archived if you want to see the console

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:05 AM

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manic saffron i sent an image in <#460846676358332417> if you want to see the console

type login

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:06 AM

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orchid pebble type login

ok

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:07 AM

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orchid pebble type login

it doesnt show anything

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:07 AM

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wdym?

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it should have dropped you into a shell

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now you can type ip a

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:07 AM

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it just shows #

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:08 AM

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manic saffron it just shows #

yep thats good

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:08 AM

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orchid pebble yep thats good

i typed it again

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and now its back at supervisor to start up

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:08 AM

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you were in the right place

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:09 AM

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orchid pebble you were in the right place

oh

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:09 AM

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I wanted you to type ip a to get the complete ip addressing info

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:09 AM

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yes

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i did

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its alot of text

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:09 AM

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do you see anything that looks like it could match your home network

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:10 AM

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no

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:10 AM

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type ping 8.8.8.8

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:11 AM

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i sent you the pic

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it says networth is unreachable

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:12 AM

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ok so your networking settings on vbox are incorrect, the pc is hardwired correct?

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:12 AM

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yes

amber iron Apr 25, 2022, 12:14 AM

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2 questions, can home assistant vm access wifi/bluetooth
and can you use the "full backup" option to easily change host machine with nothing lost?

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:14 AM

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amber iron 2 questions, can home assistant vm access wifi/bluetooth and can you use the "fu...

i am not sure

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:15 AM

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manic saffron yes

ok I saw the screenshot you sent me... keep in mind you can also use imgur for sending images but either way it looks like the adapter configuration is correct make sure vbox is up to date, sometimes you have to reboot after installing vbox for networking to function correctly

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:16 AM

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orchid pebble ok I saw the screenshot you sent me... keep in mind you can also use imgur for s...

okay

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can you send me a current vbox link if you dont mind?

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so do i restart my pc now

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:16 AM

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amber iron 2 questions, can home assistant vm access wifi/bluetooth and can you use the "fu...

networking, yes. Wi-Fi I am not sure but if it is a usb device for bluetooth or wifi you could try passing it through

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:17 AM

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manic saffron can you send me a current vbox link if you dont mind?

where did you download virtualbox from

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:17 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/windows/

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from home assistants website

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oh wait

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wrong link

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:18 AM

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orchid pebble where did you download virtualbox from

https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

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i did 6.1.34

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:19 AM

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Did you install the VirtualBox Extension Pack

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:19 AM

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orchid pebble networking, yes. Wi-Fi I am not sure but if it is a usb device for bluetooth or ...

my mother board has wifi and bluetooth

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:20 AM

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https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/6.1.34/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.1.34.vbox-extpack

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:20 AM

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no

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platform

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what does it do

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:21 AM

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adds support for additional hardware, unlikely to solve our issue but you may need it later anyway

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:21 AM

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orchid pebble adds support for additional hardware, unlikely to solve our issue but you may ne...

oh thanks

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do i restart my pc now

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:22 AM

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one more question, are you running Windows 11?

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:22 AM

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orchid pebble one more question, are you running Windows 11?

yes

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:22 AM

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earlier versions of 11 had issues with vbox make sure windows is up to date too

manic saffron Apr 25, 2022, 12:22 AM

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okay

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yea im up to date

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so am i good now

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i will tell you what happens when i restart my p

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pc

orchid pebble Apr 25, 2022, 12:23 AM

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ok

viscid sigil Apr 25, 2022, 12:34 AM

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simple sierra <@466014487447863297> Hi and thanks for the hint... How can I take a full backup...

The backup service is hardware independent. You don't need to worry about it.

young halo Apr 25, 2022, 2:58 AM

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I finally got Home Assistant to work but says system not healthy and wont update Supervisor

deep edge Apr 25, 2022, 4:26 AM

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Is there a definitive guide to installing HA on Ubuntu with supervised mode?

pine orbit Apr 25, 2022, 4:39 AM

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deep edge Is there a definitive guide to installing HA on Ubuntu with supervised mode?

No, because the supervised installation method is only officially supported on Debian. It is possible that you might be able to make it sorta function in Ubuntu, but the devs don't test or support it, and people have run into problems in the past.

The supported options on ubuntu are running HA OS in a vm, running home assistant docker, or running home assistant core.

torn dagger Apr 25, 2022, 4:45 AM

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I tried installing Rasbian Home Assistant for the PI 3 but whenever I try to find it on my network I can't. I have tried reflashing it and everything.

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I have given it over 20 minutes

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I have also plugged it in through ethernet but the network still won't detect my PI 3

deep edge Apr 25, 2022, 4:48 AM

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@pine orbit Thanks. I'll try the HA OS (I have vmware)

deep edge Apr 25, 2022, 5:20 AM

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Nice. I used the VMDK to build a vmware image with HA OS...I already had a subscription to HA Cloud (when I was noodling around with it earlier this year)....installed the integration for Insteon using the credentials on my hub....Alexa picked it up immediately...I just need to rename the devices in HA (I've already done the Front and bathroom lights and they work) and I'm good to go.

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Just tested the fans/lights too..good to go

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I guess I'm out of luck if I ever lose the hub..but at least I bought some time until I can find replacements.

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 6:19 AM

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young halo I finally got Home Assistant to work but says system not healthy and wont update...

You did use Home Assistant OS I take it? You didn't use the trap that is the Supervised installer?

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 6:44 AM

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How is healthy and non healthy determined?

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my rpi4 system went from healthy to unhealthy for again

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/cant-access-supervisor/413868/3

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already did a install few days back

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 6:53 AM

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You're still using the stable releases of HAOS and the Supervisor?

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 6:55 AM

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yes

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nothing changed edit: only updated to 2022.4.7 today

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 7:24 AM

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Can we install HAOS on UEFI enabled laptops?

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 7:25 AM

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Probably

high token Apr 25, 2022, 7:25 AM

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it's a requirement even

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 7:25 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64#install-home-assistant-operating-system

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 7:26 AM

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then why Intel NUC are preferred than old used laptops?

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 7:27 AM

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Why do you think it's preferred?

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 7:28 AM

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humble mirage Why do you think it's preferred?

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/buying-a-device-to-run-home-assistant-april-2022-edition/412605/32?u=yousaf465

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Intel NUC has a HAOS image ?

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 7:29 AM

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That's just a persons suggestion

sly palm Apr 25, 2022, 7:31 AM

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I am planning to setup a basic/low-key installation at my home. I was wondering what would be a suitable platform? Raspberry Pi or a Mini PC (which I could share with another service in the future)?

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 7:32 AM

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sly palm I am planning to setup a basic/low-key installation at my home. I was wondering ...

what you have in stock?

sly palm Apr 25, 2022, 7:33 AM

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latent thistle what you have in stock?

Both a Pi and a Mini PC

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 7:33 AM

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sly palm Both a Pi and a Mini PC

Go for Mini pc

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which pi it is?

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according to experts including Tinkerer PC is better platform for HA.

sly palm Apr 25, 2022, 7:35 AM

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latent thistle according to experts including Tinkerer PC is better platform for HA.

Good to know, I assume then I will go for Docker based installation, then I can share the PC

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 7:35 AM

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more powerful hardware, more ports,

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 7:37 AM

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sly palm Good to know, I assume then I will go for Docker based installation, then I can ...

to me Docker is unstable, unreliable and too clumsy in my limited use

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 7:38 AM

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latent thistle to me Docker is unstable, unreliable and too clumsy in my limited use

Good news... your chosen install method uses Docker cz_wink

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 7:40 AM

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I had a sigh of relief when MaxWinterstein released ADB-S Multi Portal Feeder https://github.com/MaxWinterstein/homeassistant-addons

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previously I was using docker with portainer and it was a big headache

sly palm Apr 25, 2022, 7:43 AM

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So is the Docker method more stable?

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 7:44 AM

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Docker is fine, and underpins 96% of all HA installs

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Any time Docker isn't fine it's either because the host itself has issues, or there's a layer 8 issue

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 7:45 AM

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HAOS on pc is also docker based?

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 7:45 AM

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HAOS on anything is Docker based

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation#compare-installation-methods

sly palm Apr 25, 2022, 7:46 AM

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Hmmmmm, I thought so, that host might be an issue. What is layer 8 issue? Curious on that

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 7:46 AM

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People 😉

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 7:47 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layer_8

sly palm Apr 25, 2022, 7:59 AM

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latent thistle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layer_8

Thanks, I thought it would be really specific, hidden somewhere 🙂

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 8:05 AM

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sly palm Thanks, I thought it would be really specific, hidden somewhere 🙂

that is layer 9

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what features to look for in a used laptop to run HAOS beside the cost obviously

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and a broken non-working screen

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 8:12 AM

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UEFI, wired Gbit networking

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More CPU cores are handy, and more RAM is always good, but as long as there's at least 2 cores and 2 GB of RAM then you're on the right path

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 8:13 AM

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humble mirage More CPU cores are handy, and more RAM is always good, but as long as there's at...

any generation will work?

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 8:13 AM

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If it's 64 bit, yes

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Newer means lower power draw for the same performance

latent thistle Apr 25, 2022, 8:14 AM

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https://www.olx.com.pk/items/q-intel-nuc?sorting=asc-price

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some Intel nucs

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https://www.olx.com.pk/items/q-used-laptop?sorting=asc-price laptops

cunning spire Apr 25, 2022, 9:38 AM

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Update issue to 2022.4.7

22-04-25 05:28:19 ERROR (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.4.7: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2022.4.7&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fqemux86-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Head "https://ghcr.io/v2/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant/manifests/2022.4.7": Get "https://ghcr.io/token?scope=repository%3Ahome-assistant%2Fqemux86-64-homeassistant%3Apull&service=ghcr.io": context deadline exceeded")
22-04-25 05:28:19 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Updating Home Assistant image failed

anybody have the same?

analog grove Apr 25, 2022, 9:39 AM

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yes ne

cunning spire Apr 25, 2022, 9:39 AM

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same on pi4

22-04-25 11:30:28 ERROR (SyncWorker_7) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2022.4.7: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2022.4.7&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi4-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Head "https://ghcr.io/v2/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant/manifests/2022.4.7": Get "https://ghcr.io/token?scope=repository%3Ahome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi4-64-homeassistant%3Apull&service=ghcr.io": net/http: request canceled (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
22-04-25 11:30:28 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Updating Home Assistant image failed

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seems to be a an github issue

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https://www.githubstatus.com/

late inlet Apr 25, 2022, 9:53 AM

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Hi there! 2022.4.7 refuses to install properly for me (it says it's installing and then nothing happens). I've rebooted, done a "cold boot", updated everything else to no avail. I can't seem to find anything super obvious in the log either that aren't just normal warnings I'd get.

Where should I look for more clues?

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 9:53 AM

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Look up

late inlet Apr 25, 2022, 9:55 AM

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Sorry, seems like I'm impatient today ^^

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 9:56 AM

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No worries

late inlet Apr 25, 2022, 9:58 AM

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I am however not seeing this error myself if I should find it in "load full home assistant log". Nothing super obvious that would block an update.

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Only errors I had were related to TTS/MPD so I disabled those and tried to upgrade again but it fails and I can't see any errors at all.

high token Apr 25, 2022, 10:08 AM

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Supervisor logs not HA logs

late basin Apr 25, 2022, 10:09 AM

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cunning spire seems to be a an github issue

@late inlet Looks like github packages itself is down from which the image is downloaded, so no error in your instance. If it cant be downloaded, it cant be updated

late inlet Apr 25, 2022, 10:11 AM

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Ahh. Ok, good. Sometimes one problem doesn't rule out another but then I can just wait it out. Thank you

valid heart Apr 25, 2022, 10:17 AM

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valid heart Hi, HA Blue user here. All been fine for months and can view HA fine. It’s bee...

Would really appreciate any help or at least being pointed to the right place to seek it. Ta

late basin Apr 25, 2022, 10:32 AM

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valid heart Would really appreciate any help or at least being pointed to the right place to...

Seems to be a super dump solution/approach, but if you have supervisor, make and download a full backup, reinstall the HA Os image with the right version and upload the backup? Should only take 10-15 minutes with no data loss and after that you know if it is a issue in HA (problem disappeared) or in your instance configuration (problem still exists)

valid heart Apr 25, 2022, 10:53 AM

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Thanks. Supervisor seems to be functioning and I have back ups so will try to reinstall and then load the back up and see what happens.

static bobcat Apr 25, 2022, 11:19 AM

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How do I update home assistant core if I accidentally pressed skip when the update popped out

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I don't see that being covered in Common Docs

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 11:21 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/

static bobcat Apr 25, 2022, 11:23 AM

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do i understand correctly that there is no way to unskip an update without CLI?

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 11:25 AM

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Certainly no easy way, but having access to the CLI is a Good Thing ™️

static bobcat Apr 25, 2022, 11:26 AM

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i'll have to file a issue about that

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weird to have a skip feature without an unskip functionality

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not very good UX

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 11:26 AM

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Feature request, not an issue

static bobcat Apr 25, 2022, 11:26 AM

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i think it's an issue with UX

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 11:27 AM

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It's not an issue, if you open it as an issue expect it to be closed

static bobcat Apr 25, 2022, 11:27 AM

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and the skip feature

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anyway that's up to debate so we will see

late basin Apr 25, 2022, 11:33 AM

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static bobcat i think it's an issue with UX

It's a "real life" issue, but in the github workflow of HA it's a feature request because you want to add "new functionality". Issues are restricted to bugs i.e. existing code and functionality not working from a technical perspective

static bobcat Apr 25, 2022, 11:33 AM

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i see

quartz wing Apr 25, 2022, 11:44 AM

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UX issues are not yet a bug consideration @static bobcat... Though the UX is improving slowly (and being less YAML driven thankfully)

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 11:50 AM

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Issues are where something is supposed to work, but doesn't

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And supposed to work, not as you'd like it to work, but as the developers intended 😉

cunning spire Apr 25, 2022, 12:01 PM

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update works again

late inlet Apr 25, 2022, 12:20 PM

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can confirm

spare cape Apr 25, 2022, 12:28 PM

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my ha wifi is not connecting to wifi ik i have done everything correct

wide gale Apr 25, 2022, 12:37 PM

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Well, if you've already done everything correct, then I'm not sure we can be of any help.

empty bloom Apr 25, 2022, 12:38 PM

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spare cape my ha wifi is not connecting to wifi ik i have done everything correct

What have you done? Can you explain the details so that we can see the potential errors in your configuration

spare cape Apr 25, 2022, 12:41 PM

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empty bloom What have you done? Can you explain the details so that we can see the potentia...

I flashed a usb drive with ha os and another usb drive named config then a file called network then a txt named my network with uuid pass work and ssid then i removed the .txt and I plugged in both of the drives in the pi's usb port and booted it up and it did not show the ip of it

valid heart Apr 25, 2022, 12:45 PM

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late basin Seems to be a super dump solution/approach, but if you have supervisor, make and...

Are these the correct steps to follow to reinstall on a Blue. https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/odroid
Need to configure an SD card with new boot media

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 12:46 PM

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Well, you need an adapter to flash the eMMC with

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There's also https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os#flashing-an-odroid-n2

spare cape Apr 25, 2022, 12:46 PM

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@empty bloom

spare cape Apr 25, 2022, 1:06 PM

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spare cape I flashed a usb drive with ha os and another usb drive named config then a file ...

help for this ^

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someone

empty bloom Apr 25, 2022, 1:48 PM

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@spare cape I suggest you make a forum post as it seems no one is able to help immediately

spare cape Apr 25, 2022, 1:54 PM

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ok

high token Apr 25, 2022, 1:55 PM

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Does your pi not have an ethernet port?

spare cape Apr 25, 2022, 1:55 PM

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it has but its not working means the chip has burnt

high token Apr 25, 2022, 1:57 PM

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alternatively you can connect a screen and keyboard and do it from the command line

spare cape Apr 25, 2022, 1:58 PM

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yes

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i do to check if the ip is showing or not

high token Apr 25, 2022, 1:58 PM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/guide-connecting-pi-with-home-assistant-os-to-wifi-or-other-networking-changes/98768#2-connect-to-wifi-using-nmcli-instead-of-importing-your-own-profile-if-you-only-want-to-set-a-static-ip-for-your-current-connection-skip-to-setting-static-ip-further-below
this guide from step 2

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but you'd have to first type login to go from ha> to #

spare cape Apr 25, 2022, 2:00 PM

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ok

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what the login psk ang user

crude inlet Apr 25, 2022, 2:01 PM

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you only enter login

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there is no password

spare cape Apr 25, 2022, 2:01 PM

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oh

crude inlet Apr 25, 2022, 2:02 PM

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I was confused by your description of two usb drives. Normally, you should flash an SD card and use that in the Pi

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Are you booting from a USB flash drive?

spare cape Apr 25, 2022, 2:09 PM

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crude inlet I was confused by your description of two usb drives. Normally, you should flash...

oh yeah i forget to say that my sd card slot if broken too i got a good deal tho 10$ for rpi 4 2gb

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i am using usb boot

crude inlet Apr 25, 2022, 2:10 PM

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eh, maybe a good deal. But you're not choosing to use it for a well suited purpose with all of these caveats

golden egret Apr 25, 2022, 5:25 PM

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Hi! complete noob, first time using discord as well as trying to get HA to work on a new ODROID N2+ that i just plugged in. I tried accessing via network but homeassistant.local refused to connect... what gives? where can i go for help?

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 5:26 PM

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Try the LAN IP and port 8123?

golden egret Apr 25, 2022, 5:28 PM

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did that... same

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but thx!

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 5:28 PM

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If you can hook up a keyboard and monitor then somebody will likely be able to talk you through troubleshooting

crude inlet Apr 25, 2022, 5:29 PM

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Does the odroid IP address appear in your router

golden egret Apr 25, 2022, 5:29 PM

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i found a device on my network called "homeassistant" so i'm guessing that's it... that's the IP address i tried

crude inlet Apr 25, 2022, 5:31 PM

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What does that_ip_address:4357 show?

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And by "via network" I assume you're using a browser, but should check just in case

golden egret Apr 25, 2022, 5:34 PM

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i'm on a PC now, but i found the device using my mesh wifi app (Amplifi). under "devices" i found a device called "homeassistant" and plugged that IP address into my PC browser http://192.168.126.249:8123

crude inlet Apr 25, 2022, 5:34 PM

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Ok and when you replace 8123 with 4357?

golden egret Apr 25, 2022, 5:59 PM

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ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED

crude inlet Apr 25, 2022, 6:12 PM

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@golden egret reboot or connect monitor and keyboard. Doesn't read like it's actually connected

golden egret Apr 25, 2022, 7:04 PM

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thank you for the suggestion. i connected to monitor and booted up. i receive repeated error message: Cannot connect to the Dop ker daemon at unix://usr/run/docker.sock. Is the docker daemon running?

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Docker not Dop ker *

static bobcat Apr 25, 2022, 7:31 PM

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humble mirage And supposed to work, not as you'd like it to work, but as the developers intend...

it just feels broken that you can press a button accidentally and break a feature

humble mirage Apr 25, 2022, 9:08 PM

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It's not broken, you dismissed it, so it went away until the next release

inland falcon Apr 25, 2022, 9:59 PM

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Hello. I’m unable to integrate Insteon Hub to HA

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Says failed to connect

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Looked up IP on my google router. Typed port, username and password found on back of Hub. No dice

rare hill Apr 25, 2022, 10:29 PM

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Hi, I'm having the same new setup issue as @golden egret - new ODROID device arrived today, plugged it in, no URLs work including IP:8123 or 4357. I expected out-of-the-box to work hence why purchased it, but perhaps have wrong expectation. I don't see an Odroid room here - wondering is this the correct place to ask or is there better room? Or should I ask ameridroid for info?
Same type of error message on the screen as @golden egret sees, but slightly different:
"Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///var/run/docker.sock. Is the docker daemon running?"
Wonder if this latest batch of Odroids has a config issue(?).

crude inlet Apr 25, 2022, 10:44 PM

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@rare hill there is not a channel for each type of device out there, and that's the exact same message. tcosupreme had a typo

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Do you have a keyboard attached?

rare hill Apr 25, 2022, 10:49 PM

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Thanks for verifying. Yes I do.

young halo Apr 25, 2022, 10:58 PM

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humble mirage You _did_ use Home Assistant OS I take it? You didn't use the trap that is the S...

Yes its the OS

rare hill Apr 25, 2022, 11:38 PM

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crude inlet Do you have a keyboard attached?

Been looking around the dirs; wondering if you or others have suggestion on config files to review or hints on what's wrong for fixing?

empty river Apr 26, 2022, 1:45 AM

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Question - with a Raspberry Pi 4, can I install the Home Assistant Operating System on an external USB based SSD drive? I know that I can set up the Pi 4 to boot from an SSD, but will it work with HAOS?

crude inlet Apr 26, 2022, 1:51 AM

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empty river Question - with a Raspberry Pi 4, can I install the Home Assistant Operating Sys...

It can be sensitive to the right drive and right enclosure/controller, but yes

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Or you can keep the read only stuff on the SD, and move the read/write Data partition to an external

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This is less sensitive

empty river Apr 26, 2022, 1:52 AM

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That's a great idea! Thank you @crude inlet

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I have a small travel USB SSD, and it seems to break every few months.

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I have Ubuntu on there now, but I lost the machine again, so I was trying to figure out how to work around it.

crude inlet Apr 26, 2022, 1:54 AM

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You can move the partition from the UI once your system is up

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It has to be a drive which is larger than the current drive (SD)

empty river Apr 26, 2022, 1:56 AM

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That's good to know. It's a 250GB SSD so it'll be bigger than the SD card for sure.

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Can I install applications (plugins and devices) to the external disk?

crude inlet Apr 26, 2022, 1:57 AM

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only through the usual method which is add-ons

empty river Apr 26, 2022, 1:57 AM

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okay.

crude inlet Apr 26, 2022, 1:57 AM

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you can't add your own random software packages

empty river Apr 26, 2022, 1:57 AM

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And from what It looks like, I can install other docker containers on the machine? I'd like to host my Ubiquity Cloud key on it as well.

crude inlet Apr 26, 2022, 1:58 AM

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There is a unifi add-on already

empty river Apr 26, 2022, 1:58 AM

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okay, so I could install Unifi add on and any other HA addons.

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that's all I really want on the machine.

crude inlet Apr 26, 2022, 1:58 AM

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I don't care to mix my networking with my HA machine, but a lot of people do

empty river Apr 26, 2022, 1:59 AM

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Agreed, but I don't have enough reliable machines to spread them out.

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Thank you for your help. I'm going to get a powered hub to see if that helps with the reliability of the SSD drive and set the machine up to boot from an SD card.

reef hamlet Apr 26, 2022, 4:03 AM

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running into a problem . anyone able to elaborate on said problem?

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I'm at 5:37 of installing. trying to gget docket and i'm getting no such fille or directory

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekVfLXnoM7k

fierce timber Apr 26, 2022, 10:05 AM

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Hello, I want to support for the Intel Wireless-AC 9462 adapter. What i need to do?

fierce timber Apr 26, 2022, 10:24 AM

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iwlwifi-9000-pu-b0-jf-b0-34.ucode should be the right file

high token Apr 26, 2022, 11:22 AM

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Open a new issue for it on the OS repository on github

cyan hamlet Apr 26, 2022, 11:35 AM

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I'm all of a sudden unable to get home assistant to start up it's works for a about half a minute and then the connection gets lost. It's running on a vm I'm getting an error: ata1.00: exception emask 0x0 sact 0x0 serr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen

I haven't seen this yet it's now spamming in the console systemd-journal[95] failed to write entry..... Ignoring read-only file system

And
SD 0:0:0:0 SDA tag#0 access beyond end device

humble mirage Apr 26, 2022, 11:37 AM

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You said something about a virtual drive?

cyan hamlet Apr 26, 2022, 11:39 AM

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Yea it's a virtual drive running in virtual box

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The host PC is just a normal windows 10 pc

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I just randomly got access again so I'm not sure what caused the issue but I'm just backing up ha incase it happens again

valid heart Apr 26, 2022, 3:40 PM

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More advice/help needed re issue with HA Blue and supervisor not having host internet access that I got help with yesterday

I reflashed the Blue following https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os#flashing-an-odroid-n2 which worked ok, apart from I got message saying PetitbootFaile, dropping to a shell. I proceeded given I wanted to Exit to Shell anyway. The prompted kept indenting each line, but otherwise reflash completed fine (haos_odroid-n2-7.6.img.xz) . Switched boot back from SPI to MMC and restarted with everything connected. I get the HA splash screen saying it is being prepared, but it just hangs on that screen. Clicking on the blue circle to view the log, has a similar error message to original - supervisor has no host internet connection.

Would really appreciate help to talk me through what I can try next. I've gone from a working HA Blue that couldn't update to now not being able to access at all so am in a pickle.

rigid ravine Apr 26, 2022, 6:08 PM

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hey guys

Is there a way to reset host name by ha server? Because i tried local on server to acess the server and i cant get it. I tried homeassistant, ip local, ip extern, duckdns domain and i cant! Maybe i did some wrong step that broke my server.

crude inlet Apr 26, 2022, 6:19 PM

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@rigid ravine Are you using https://ip_address:8123 ?

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and not http://

rigid ravine Apr 26, 2022, 6:19 PM

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i tried both

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i remember to type https://mydomain.duckdns.org

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@crude inlet strange that url on server shows homeassistant.local.local:8123

crude inlet Apr 26, 2022, 6:24 PM

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shows it where?

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@valid heart The box needs internet. What does ha network info show?

rigid ravine Apr 26, 2022, 6:30 PM

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crude inlet shows it where?

u r corrected, using https it works. thanks

heady wigeon Apr 26, 2022, 7:23 PM

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Hi all, is it possible to install Home Assistant to a Proxmox LXC container? I've been playing around with LXC containers more and more and they seem like a nice lightweight alternative to a VM.

humble mirage Apr 26, 2022, 7:32 PM

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Not HAOS, but otherwise yes - though at that point you'd be better off just using Docker

heady wigeon Apr 26, 2022, 7:33 PM

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Hm, I'd like the add-ons and backup so if that isn't possible in LXC, then I'm likely not interested

crude inlet Apr 26, 2022, 7:43 PM

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add-ons are other containers you can find for yourself.

topaz summit Apr 26, 2022, 9:31 PM

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I'm trying to install Home assistant on ProxMox but once I try to boot the installation image it doesn't boot:

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no images allowed?

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https://i.imgur.com/6dgjLGi.png

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I followed the following guide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42gopfIrPBY
I tried several video's and they actually all do the same steps which I replicated

young halo Apr 27, 2022, 1:05 AM

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trying to update Supervisor but wont install fails. I cant install add ons because it says system is not healthy. Do I need to add some code to the configuration file or what?

grand pivot Apr 27, 2022, 1:07 AM

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unless you did something to the system to make it non-standard on purpose, you can try running ha su repair from ssh

young halo Apr 27, 2022, 1:07 AM

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alright thanks i'll try

young halo Apr 27, 2022, 1:10 AM

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grand pivot unless you did something to the system to make it non-standard on purpose, you c...

Cant SSH connection refused

grand pivot Apr 27, 2022, 1:11 AM

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did you set it up?

young halo Apr 27, 2022, 1:12 AM

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grand pivot did you set it up?

setup what? I tried to ssh my username at the ip address

grand pivot Apr 27, 2022, 1:12 AM

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did you set up ssh?

young halo Apr 27, 2022, 1:14 AM

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grand pivot did you set up ssh?

no not sure is there an option to allow this oh wait yeah I know what you mean, i forgot I dont think I did might have to start over now. I used pi imager so i guess i would have to set that up before flashing to usb stick?

grand pivot Apr 27, 2022, 1:15 AM

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?

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you install the SSH addon

young halo Apr 27, 2022, 1:16 AM

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i cant install any addons thats the whole problem

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ill try again but it wont let me instll because it says system not healthy update supervisor

young halo Apr 27, 2022, 1:20 AM

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grand pivot you install the SSH addon

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Alry9BRRIlhujRnWB-48tIqmv4es?e=bSbZmw

young halo Apr 27, 2022, 1:21 AM

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grand pivot you install the SSH addon

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Alry9BRRIlhujRjxAQ6jDxxWgBjb?e=MGNWiG

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmijXm3hmg4&t=371s

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this is my boot image from pi imager

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https://1drv.ms/u/s!Alry9BRRIlhuiw91ZTZIZ-VtM-dk?e=I2QFy8

topaz summit Apr 27, 2022, 6:41 AM

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Anyone can help?
I'm trying to install Home assistant on ProxMox but once I try to boot the installation image it doesn't boot:
no images allowed?
https://i.imgur.com/6dgjLGi.png
I followed the following guide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42gopfIrPBY
I tried several video's and they actually all do the same steps which I replicated

still owl Apr 27, 2022, 6:41 AM

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Huh, Sharing OneDrive links is kinda sketchy IMO

still owl Apr 27, 2022, 6:47 AM

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topaz summit Anyone can help? I'm trying to install Home assistant on ProxMox but once I try ...

Did you try making a vm with the "Generic x86-64" Home Assistant image? That needs bios as UEFI + EFI disk. Or just use a script from here: https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/

topaz summit Apr 27, 2022, 6:55 AM

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still owl Did you try making a vm with the "Generic x86-64" Home Assistant image? That nee...

I tried the following image
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux

KVM (.qcow2)

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I also tried using that script before, without having success :/

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A vm was created but no OS was on there

still owl Apr 27, 2022, 7:01 AM

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Did you check the boot order from options? You could create the vm by hand using the generic image with uefi settings

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I tried the script and it worked fine with advanced settings

topaz summit Apr 27, 2022, 7:48 AM

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Found the fix!
'If you encounter an error booting your vm that ends in Shell written in yellow letters... Try disabling "Pre-Enroll keys" at the end of System's tab, right where you select UEFI bios when creating the vm.'

rocky yew Apr 27, 2022, 9:53 AM

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Hi, yesterday i upgraded my HAOS to 2022.4.7 and now i cant open my esphome dashboard etc.
Looking at it it seems that the url is missing the domain name.
like 27 Apr 00:06:07 - [info] [server:Home Assistant] Connecting to http://supervisor/core

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that should have been http://lumrasp7.local/supervisor/core

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has someone a fix for this?

cyan hamlet Apr 27, 2022, 11:54 AM

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cyan hamlet I'm all of a sudden unable to get home assistant to start up it's works for a ab...

This issue happened again after a restart. I tried making a whole new virtual machine on virtual box and reinstall home assistant and restoring from a backup but that did not solve the problem

dawn flame Apr 27, 2022, 12:28 PM

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A Docker install would eliminate that issue....

blissful lagoon Apr 27, 2022, 3:01 PM

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is there a way to stop HA from loosing Addons and Resgisteries.. every so often either from an update or HA or whatever they gone.. and pain to re add Community Apps and figure what other addons and registeries i have added... what causes it to loose it.. so many people have this issue when you google search it but i cant find anyone to resolve it

random sky Apr 27, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Hi all. Today I reinstalled my hassio on a SSD and restored from backup. Nice to get rid of the SD card. All working fine except randomly after everything has been working for hours I saw everything becoming unavailable in the logs and then becoming available again. And it's not only wifi devices even add-ons etc.

loud vapor Apr 28, 2022, 12:25 AM

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Hello, Can this be run on a raspberry pi 2 b?

jovial rampart Apr 28, 2022, 12:44 AM

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Yes, but just because it can doesn’t mean you should.

dawn flame Apr 28, 2022, 12:49 AM

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It will run fairly well, but things will slow down once you get a bunch of things going on.

brazen herald Apr 28, 2022, 1:08 AM

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It's not supported. The docs says 3 or 4. While it may run on older hardware it's going to be more difficult if you run into issues. Personally I'd recommend at least a 4 with an SSD.

loud vapor Apr 28, 2022, 1:39 AM

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Thanks for all the replies.

toxic sigil Apr 28, 2022, 6:58 AM

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Hi Guys, I am trying to install the haos on proxmox ... the downloaded qcow2 file is not bale to boot ... and using the latest qcow file ... haos_ova-7.6.qcow2

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am following this video ... has anything changed in the new version ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42gopfIrPBY

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 7:05 AM

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Follow https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative in case that 2 year old video is outdated

toxic sigil Apr 28, 2022, 7:07 AM

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humble mirage Follow <https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative> in case that 2 y...

thanks for the reply... i hae downloaded the qcow2 file from there only ... my console shows this ..

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am not able to share the image .. how do i share it pls

abstract hearthBOT Apr 28, 2022, 7:10 AM

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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

toxic sigil Apr 28, 2022, 7:11 AM

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https://ibb.co/PwWJq3h

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 7:12 AM

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You've configured it for UEFI?

toxic sigil Apr 28, 2022, 7:12 AM

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yes

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solved it by removing the EFI Disk ... thanks for your time

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 8:04 AM

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hi, I am using a raspi 4 as host for a docker HA installation. Due to timing I started with an 32bit RaspiOS but now I have to migrate to 64bit...what would be the best way to do this without loosing all my config and devices?

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 8:06 AM

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You presumably already back up your install?

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 8:09 AM

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yes but the 64bit installation is running on another SD card

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 8:10 AM

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So?

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You can take that backup and restore it to the new install

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 8:11 AM

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I also already docker-composed a new HA container on the 64Bit SD and then tried to feed my old config and .storage data into this but the data asn't recognized by the new installaiton

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 8:11 AM

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If you're keeping the backups on the same SD card then you're not really doing backups

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You need to "feed" it the entire contents of the config folder - all the hidden files and folders too

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Basically, copy/restore them to the new SD card, map that location as the /config volume, and go

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 8:11 AM

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i copied everything I can see when i do a "ls -a"

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ok that is what I thought I have done

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maybe I give it another try

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 8:13 AM

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tar up the config folder, then extract that on the new install

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Or heck, restore the backup

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 8:13 AM

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do i need to tar it or is a cp -r also sufficient?

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(Sorry I am not really a linux pro :/ )

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 8:14 AM

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Where are you copying it to?

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 8:14 AM

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NAS

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 8:15 AM

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And you've checked that what you copy to the NAS makes it there unchanged - no files get renamed

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With a tar you've removed a layer of potential issues

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 8:15 AM

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sounds like a plan

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does tar automatically takes the hidden files?

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 8:15 AM

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Yes

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And you can check the contents after you've made it

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tar cpf /my/new.tar /path/to/config
tar tf /my/new.tar

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 8:16 AM

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thank you!

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I will try it!

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 8:17 AM

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I'd also check to see that you can restore those backups

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 8:42 AM

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arg...seems that this will be much work...just discovered that the migration of my influxDB won't be easy aswell :/

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 8:43 AM

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You should be able to back that up and restore it too

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That's the case for ... everything really

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 8:43 AM

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I know

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 8:43 AM

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If you can't then it points to the fact that your existing backup strategy is a failure

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 8:43 AM

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that's totally true

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 8:43 AM

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Better to learn that this way 😄

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 8:44 AM

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as always...this was originally a quick setup

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and also my first steps with docker

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back than I didn't understand the power of docker-compose and the importance of clear data/config volumes

broken silo Apr 28, 2022, 9:40 AM

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Hi, I can't access my home assistant via web ui, neither homeassistant.local (DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN) nor ip (ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED) work. I can SSH without issues. I tried restarting it, restarting the modem, accessing from laptop or from mobile or from private tab, nothing helps. I can access Observer URL (4357) works and it says that supervisor is connected, supported and healthy. What can I try? Problem started today, it was working ok since I installed it (few days) and nothing changed.

placid sage Apr 28, 2022, 9:55 AM

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humble mirage Better to learn that this way 😄

great...now it works...but I think I have to prepare the migration a little longer to ensure a good setup for the future 😉

toxic sigil Apr 28, 2022, 10:35 AM

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i just restored my working instance of home assistant on rpi4 to a proxmox vm and the switch was so seamless ... kudos to the devs .. 🤟

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 10:56 AM

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#zigbee-archived can help with all things Zigbee

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agooglethumbsup

abstract hearthBOT Apr 28, 2022, 2:09 PM

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@valid heart posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/fewitunaza

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@valid heart posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/ekodajesuh

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 2:17 PM

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@valid heart the problem is you're posting over 15 lines of text ... this isn't a forum, it's for chat

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People can see what you posted by clicking the link - try to instead summarise the problem

valid heart Apr 28, 2022, 2:18 PM

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Ok & I'm happy to post elsewhere if this isn't the best place. Will summarise

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 2:18 PM

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I'd be guessing your issue is DNS

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(that or IPv6)

valid heart Apr 28, 2022, 2:20 PM

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Ta. Is this the right place to try and establish what is wrong? Or if not, could you direct me

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 2:20 PM

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Yes, it most likely is the right place

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You just need folks who understand HAOS to be around

valid heart Apr 28, 2022, 2:23 PM

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👍 I'll check back in later and try again (with shorter summary!)

dusty seal Apr 28, 2022, 3:50 PM

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how do i find my server url so HA can start

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 4:07 PM

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HA doesn't need a URL to start

frozen veldt Apr 28, 2022, 4:12 PM

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This video recommended to setup a supported install? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrKQkI53xys
My current (unsupported) install 'broke' w/ Samba 9.6 update, so looking to finally bite the bullet and upgrade.

humble mirage Apr 28, 2022, 4:13 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative#install-home-assistant-operating-system is the official guide for Proxmox

amber iron Apr 28, 2022, 9:36 PM

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If Im transferring a VM install from one machine to another, is it better to transfer over the whole VM or make a new VM and restore the backup through home assistant

crude inlet Apr 28, 2022, 10:25 PM

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@amber iron I'd do new VM and restore

young halo Apr 28, 2022, 10:26 PM

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Anyone know why I cant install any addons in HAOS I have supervisor and says everything is healthy. I keep getting server 500 error every time I try to install an addon. I tried changing DNS settings on my router to 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4., also tried to restart HAOS multiple times. Not sure what else to try. I cant SSH into my Pi either.

young halo Apr 28, 2022, 10:54 PM

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Got it had to change DNS settings

crude inlet Apr 28, 2022, 11:03 PM

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@young halo were you restarting HA or rebooting the host?

shrewd dirge Apr 28, 2022, 11:44 PM

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i really dont know where to ask this but I was wondering if this psu for my pi is sufficient enough to run homeassistant os?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/644698010848067614/969380492833071104/20220428_193143.jpg?width=384&height=683
running homeasistant core has some features lacking that i need ( mostly mqtt and mosquitto addon for iot link ) also can i run mosquitto broker and pi-hole ad blocker?

shrewd dirge Apr 29, 2022, 12:10 AM

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this is my first time running/setting up home assistant

crude inlet Apr 29, 2022, 12:41 AM

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Are you running core as a docker container or as a venv?

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The PSU should be good

granite jungle Apr 29, 2022, 1:16 AM

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Hello, was looking at some HA setups and saw someone using "HASSIO Supervisor, Docker Image", I am currently just using the standard docker image, but would like to know how I could switch to this (Im fine nuking my setup, was planning to redo it anyways), are there any guides to use an image like this and is there a link to one?

grand pivot Apr 29, 2022, 1:19 AM

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I'm not sure how to unpack that description

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your options are these: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/#compare-installation-methods

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and it kinda sounds like Supervised, which nobody here would recommend

granite jungle Apr 29, 2022, 1:20 AM

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Is it possible to install supervised in docker/ is there an image for it?

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why is supervised not recommended?

grand pivot Apr 29, 2022, 1:21 AM

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no

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Both Supervised and HA OS are an ecosystem of Docker containers that are managed. The former is installed by you on Ubuntu and the latter is installed on bare metal or in a VM

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If you follow the rules, the functionality will be identical. You'll just be responsible for maintaining the OS in Supervised for no additional benefit

granite jungle Apr 29, 2022, 1:25 AM

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Ok... My current setup uses proxmox to divvy up my hardware, would installing HAOS be a better option than installing supervised on my existing machine?

grand pivot Apr 29, 2022, 1:43 AM

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yes

granite jungle Apr 29, 2022, 1:44 AM

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grand pivot yes

Cool, I'll give it a try, thanks for your help

ripe rampart Apr 29, 2022, 3:20 AM

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Hey Ive had homeassistant for six years everything working fine until my one server decided to crap out so moved over to a brand new install method ie was unsupported before but os over kvm now. I'm running into issues where during boot the network manager is not able to start. Anyone have any ideas?

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im running 4 other kvm vms and none of them have this problem

ripe rampart Apr 29, 2022, 5:34 AM

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ignore me i am an idiot

crude inlet Apr 29, 2022, 1:45 PM

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@ripe rampart what was it?

ripe rampart Apr 29, 2022, 2:56 PM

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So I have an old server with a failing disk and it was starting to suffer performance issues so i moved homeassistant to a new server using kvm instead of a self managed os that I had before. After I got it running I shut down the old server but it was running my dhcp for that subnet/vlan. Then the new homeassistant shut down for some reason, booted it back up it couldnt connect to internet was like thats strange. Took my trying another vm rebooting it seeing it had the same problem to realize that i had turned off my dhcp.
I need to just use manual static for my stuff at this point.

errant acorn Apr 29, 2022, 4:10 PM

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Are there any known issues updating? I haven't been able to update in months, stuck on 2022.2.9. Running in a VM.

grand pivot Apr 29, 2022, 4:12 PM

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why haven't you been able to update?

errant acorn Apr 29, 2022, 4:12 PM

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Getting this error
22-04-29 10:00:07 ERROR (SyncWorker_3) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.4.7: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2022.4.7&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fqemux86-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Get https://ghcr.io/v2/: dial tcp: lookup ghcr.io on [::1]:53: read udp [::1]:52969->[::1]:53: read: connection refused")

grand pivot Apr 29, 2022, 4:13 PM

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that's a DNS issue

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perhaps you have a PiHole or Adguard or something that was serving as a DNS server, and you deleted it, killed it, etc.

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whatever happened, it's no longer listening

errant acorn Apr 29, 2022, 4:17 PM

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I do have a PiHole, but it's disabled at the moment.

grand pivot Apr 29, 2022, 4:17 PM

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then I recommend starting with that

errant acorn Apr 29, 2022, 4:20 PM

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The PiHole works fine when its enabled. I thought there was a chance it may be blocking so I disabled it from blocking anything. I've even changed the DNS on the HA VM to use Google and it still errors.

grand pivot Apr 29, 2022, 4:22 PM

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it's pointing at a DNS server that isn't listening for connections

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or it just has general networking issues

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this part is quite clear about that:

"Get https://ghcr.io/v2/: dial tcp: lookup ghcr.io on [::1]:53: read udp [::1]:52969->[::1]:53: read: connection refused"

errant acorn Apr 29, 2022, 4:27 PM

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Thanks for your help, nmcli was showing DNS to be blank.

lost mural Apr 29, 2022, 4:45 PM

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I am really struggling with the generic x86 installation of HAOS. I've been going through guides and googling my issue for hours now and it' always dead ends. Which is weird...cause you'd think lots of people who try it out hardware they have laying around would run into this issue....
balena etcher will not run if I use ubuntu live to get the image onto the internal hdd of my old laptop.
I have tried the 'normal' way (downloading the appimage, unzipping, checking that mark in the properties to allow it to run as a program), as well as via terminal where it complains about a missing component - which isn't missing though)

ripe rampart Apr 29, 2022, 4:58 PM

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The unsupported method is kind of quirky to get working. I did it so long ago don't remember exactly how I did it. I recently just switch to having it in a vm

crude inlet Apr 29, 2022, 4:58 PM

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Can you remove the internal drive and flash it directly?

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@lost mural

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You don't even need etcher

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Open the disks utility in ubuntu and you can write the image to the internal drive

lost mural Apr 29, 2022, 5:01 PM

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ripe rampart The unsupported method is kind of quirky to get working. I did it so long ago do...

ha. I am coming from the other direction. I tried out a docker container install on ubuntu on this laptop for a couple of weeks. but it was really frustrating how difficult it made any modifications for me as a noob. I wanted the plain-jain install to get to know it.

lost mural Apr 29, 2022, 5:02 PM

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crude inlet Open the disks utility in ubuntu and you can write the image to the internal dri...

i actually found this method googling around after a few hours, too. but then it just boots into a blank 'grub rescue' screen. 'unknown file system'

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what a struggle I am going through, just to test it out while i wait for the RPi with a 5 month lead time 😬

hollow rivet Apr 29, 2022, 5:05 PM

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Installation of HA onto Android TV Box Question

lost mural Apr 29, 2022, 5:07 PM

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i just gave up on docker after trying for 2 weeks cause using HA was so painful as I learn

burnt cape Apr 29, 2022, 8:41 PM

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So I am trying to run HA on a raspberry pi 2, I flashed the latest image using the raspberry pi imager so that I could set up wifi, but when I boot it up the cli hangs and goes into emergency mode and the web interface doesnt work. Is this a known issue or am I just dumb? Thanks!

humble mirage Apr 29, 2022, 8:45 PM

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You did use the (hard to find) image for the Pi2?

burnt cape Apr 29, 2022, 8:45 PM

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Yes on the github

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haos_rpi2-8.0.rc3.img.xz

humble mirage Apr 29, 2022, 8:46 PM

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Try using the stable release, not the release candidate

burnt cape Apr 29, 2022, 8:46 PM

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Where do I find those?

humble mirage Apr 29, 2022, 8:46 PM

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Also on GitHub

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7.6 is the latest stable ISTR

burnt cape Apr 29, 2022, 8:47 PM

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Gotcha I found it

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Flashing to sd card now

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Side note wait until kernel time synchronized hangs until it reaches the time limit

high token Apr 29, 2022, 8:54 PM

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I don't think the HAOS has support for setting wifi credentials using the piimager

burnt cape Apr 29, 2022, 8:54 PM

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Oh ok

high token Apr 29, 2022, 8:54 PM

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burnt cape Side note wait until kernel time synchronized hangs until it reaches the time li...

this likely means no internet

burnt cape Apr 29, 2022, 8:54 PM

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The cli crashed again

high token Apr 29, 2022, 8:55 PM

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Is ethernet not possible?

burnt cape Apr 29, 2022, 8:55 PM

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I'll try Ethernet

high token Apr 29, 2022, 8:55 PM

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One less variable to worry about

oblique jolt Apr 29, 2022, 9:02 PM

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Wandering if someone can help me. I bought an ameriDroid device that has Home-Assistant pre-installed so I could integrate an out of business device (insteon) with it. I tried integrating Insteon but it fails every time I try. I used the IP address for the device which I got from the Xfinity app, It also asked for signin and password which I got from the back of the insteon device. Any help would be appreciated

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Wondering*

humble mirage Apr 29, 2022, 9:03 PM

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What version (number) of HA is on that ameriDroid?

oblique jolt Apr 29, 2022, 9:03 PM

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XU4

humble mirage Apr 29, 2022, 9:03 PM

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That's not the version of HA

oblique jolt Apr 29, 2022, 9:03 PM

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ODdROID-XU4

abstract hearthBOT Apr 29, 2022, 9:04 PM

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The topic of this channel is:

Discussion about how to install Home Assistant, and issues with the install itself. Make sure to mention which type of installation you have. If you're not sure of your installation method, check under Info in the System Health Card (https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/info/)

humble mirage Apr 29, 2022, 9:04 PM

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Check that link

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The version should be something like 2022.4.9

oblique jolt Apr 29, 2022, 9:06 PM

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Ugh, this is my weakness. I'm have a plug and play competency anything more, I am useless...

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Home assistant is installed and it sees many of my other smart devices but not Insteon

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when I click integrate, scroll to insteon input my info it gives an error

humble mirage Apr 29, 2022, 9:07 PM

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#integrations-archived is the channel that can help with the integration of Insteon, but you need to share the error (over there)

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oblique jolt Apr 29, 2022, 9:07 PM

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thank you!

high token Apr 29, 2022, 9:08 PM

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You are likely running older versions too.

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ameriDroid would have flashed the eMMCs in batches

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I'm worried it will even be 2021.4 or so

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Go here https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/info/ and see where it takes you

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should take you to page showing what versions you have of HA

burnt cape Apr 29, 2022, 10:56 PM

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high token One less variable to worry about

Using Ethernet worked, thanks

granite mountain Apr 30, 2022, 1:35 AM

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So from what I gather, the way to get HA installed on something like my Intel NUC, is to first make a bootable stick with Ubuntu or similar on it and then once booted, copy HA to the boot medium?

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I did just try putting the HA usb stick I made in, and it booted up and I'm now on the screen where it asks me to specify credentials, but I'm assuming that its just working on the USB drive as it never asked where to install to (ie. the internal drive)

shrewd dirge Apr 30, 2022, 1:39 AM

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crude inlet Are you running core as a docker container or as a venv?

hi sorry for the late reply but i followed this guide https://siytek.com/install-home-assistant-on-raspbian/#Installing_Home_Assistant

lost mural Apr 30, 2022, 5:33 AM

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granite mountain I did just try putting the HA usb stick I made in, and it booted up and I'm now ...

this is pretty much where I am failing. Your description sounds a bit contradictory to me, but I think you had it right in your first sentence, but then actually did it wrong in your second. is your usb a bootable HAOS, or ubuntu live? Sounds to me like you put the HAOS image on there. You want to run ubuntu live from the usb, then put the HAOS image on the internal drive. Either via balena etcher, or you could also use (gnome) disks (the partition manager) to get the HAOS image onto the internal hdd.
If you figure out how to do that though, let me know. Cause that is exactly where I am at a dead end. The documentation just non-chalantly says* 'Download and start Balena Etcher.'* If only....
tbh, in your case - with a NUC that should allow for easy access - I'd go the other route and just take the internal drive to your main PC, and use balena etcher to get the HAOS image on there. Unfortunately, that's not really possible with my spare laptop

drifting vortex Apr 30, 2022, 7:19 AM

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You could also take the drive out and connect it directly to the machine you're imaging with and save yourself going via multiple OS's to get there. I assume you didn't have the leads to just do that?

naive relic Apr 30, 2022, 7:22 AM

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granite mountain So from what I gather, the way to get HA installed on something like my Intel NU...

I needed to flash HA to an internal 2.5" SSD - which wasn't detected by Balena Etcher. I tried the Ubuntu live CD method but was having a lot of issues formatting the SSD. I ended up just doing the process in Windows using this tool - worked like a charm! https://hddguru.com/software/HDD-Raw-Copy-Tool/

cyan hamlet Apr 30, 2022, 7:33 AM

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cyan hamlet This issue happened again after a restart. I tried making a whole new virtual ma...

I've tried a new fresh installation and this has happened again. Tried having the vdi on a different hard drive and still happens does anyone have any advice

granite mountain Apr 30, 2022, 12:52 PM

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I booted with an Ubuntu Live USB and downloaded Etcher, but it won't run. Missing Libfuse2. Can't seem to install it, the package can't be found hrmm

manic bane Apr 30, 2022, 1:05 PM

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granite mountain I booted with an Ubuntu Live USB and downloaded Etcher, but it won't run. Missi...

Did you do an apt update first?

granite mountain Apr 30, 2022, 1:54 PM

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yah

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figured it out. had to enable community sources

keen fjord Apr 30, 2022, 7:34 PM

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I seem to have quite high CPU load on the Home Assistant OS and not the HA instance. Seem like resolved get hit alot as well as the systemd-journald - any ideas why the NUC idle on about 30% CPU? (no cameras running on this NUC FYI)

pine orbit Apr 30, 2022, 7:35 PM

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@keen fjord: What monitoring tool are you using? Obnoxiously many monitoring tools themselves can use an appreciable amount of cpu, or worse, do things that can cause other components to use an annoying amount of cpu.

Of course if you are only using something like top in the host shell to see these figures, then we can rule out the monitoring tool.

keen fjord Apr 30, 2022, 7:35 PM

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top and ps

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on the host yes

pine orbit Apr 30, 2022, 7:37 PM

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Ok, good, on a nuc they likely won’t account for more that perhaps 5% tops. Have you tried the journal, to see if something is spamming it?

keen fjord Apr 30, 2022, 7:39 PM

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yes journalctl is flooded

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Apr 30 03:47:24 homeassistant.local systemd-resolved[350]: Hostname conflict, changing published hostname from 'homeassistant1724737' to 'homeassistant1724739'.
Apr 30 03:47:24 homeassistant.local systemd-resolved[350]: Detected conflict on homeassistant1724739.local IN AAAA fe80::5e3a:9053:e5f:1bb0
Apr 30 03:47:24 homeassistant.local systemd-resolved[350]: Hostname conflict, changing published hostname from 'homeassistant1724739' to 'homeassistant1724745'.
Apr 30 03:47:24 homeassistant.local systemd-resolved[350]: Detected conflict on homeassistant1724745.local IN AAAA fe80::5e3a:9053:e5f:1bb0
Apr 30 03:47:24 homeassistant.local systemd-resolved[350]: Hostname conflict, changing published hostname from 'homeassistant1724745' to 'homeassistant1724752'.
Apr 30 03:47:24 homeassistant.local systemd-resolved[350]: Detected conflict on homeassistant1724752.local IN AAAA fe80::5e3a:9053:e5f:1bb0
Apr 30 03:47:24 homeassistant.local systemd-resolved[350]: Hostname conflict, changing published hostname from 'homeassistant1724752' to 'homeassistant1724762'.
Apr 30 03:47:24 homeassistant.local systemd-resolved[350]: Detected conflict on homeassistant1724762.local IN AAAA fe80::5e3a:9053:e5f:1bb0
Apr 30 03:47:24 homeassistant.local systemd-resolved[350]: Hostname conflict, changing published hostname from 'homeassistant1724762' to 'homeassistant1724764'.

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and so on

pine orbit Apr 30, 2022, 7:41 PM

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Ok, well that explains the high cpu usage. And resolved would otherwise be weird, as not a lot on halos uses it. But now we need to figure out why resolved thinks there is a conflict.

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What are the io addresses on the host? I’m guessing that one listed in the logs is not there?

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Ip*

keen fjord Apr 30, 2022, 7:45 PM

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-- Journal begins at Fri 2022-04-29 03:27:26 UTC, ends at Sat 2022-04-30 19:38:38 UTC. --
Apr 29 03:27:26 homeassistant.local homeassistant/amd64-addon-samba:9.6.0/addon_core_samba[417]: queue_query_name: interface 1 has NULL IP address !
Apr 29 03:27:26 homeassistant.local homeassistant/amd64-addon-samba:9.6.0/addon_core_samba[417]: queue_query_name: interface 2 has NULL IP address !
Apr 29 03:27:26 homeassistant.local homeassistant/amd64-addon-samba:9.6.0/addon_core_samba[417]: queue_query_name: interface 3 has NULL IP address !
Apr 29 03:27:30 homeassistant.local homeassistant/amd64-addon-samba:9.6.0/addon_core_samba[417]: check_for_master_browser_fail: Forcing election on workgroup WORKGROUP subnet 192.168.1.5
Apr 29 03:27:30 homeassistant.local ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-dns:2021.06.0/hassio_dns[417]: [INFO] 127.0.0.1:58001 - 62529 "A IN desktop.local.hass.io. udp 50 true 2048" NOERROR - 0 0.000090053s
Apr 29 03:27:30 homeassistant.local ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-dns:2021.06.0/hassio_dns[417]: [ERROR] plugin/errors: 2 desktop.local.hass.io. A: plugin/forward: no next plugin found
Apr 29 03:27:30 homeassistant.local ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-dns:2021.06.0/hassio_dns[417]: [INFO] 172.30.32.1:52241 - 62529 "A IN desktop.local.hass.io. udp 39 false 512" SERVFAIL qr,rd 39 0.001339329s

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there is where the log starts

pine orbit Apr 30, 2022, 7:52 PM

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Do you have some device running an mdns repeater or reflector? I’m trying to figure out some reason why resolved would see an mdns packet with those random number appended hostnames but think it is a conflict, rather than being its own packet just accidentally redelivered to itself. (Unless the code assumes that is impossible?)

keen fjord Apr 30, 2022, 7:53 PM

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only mdns im running is on the unifi server

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I think I need to look at this tomorrow where I can check more logs

high token Apr 30, 2022, 7:57 PM

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and you don't actually have multiple homeassistant instances with the same hostname?

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I see an older issue on the OS repo with exactly this problem

pine orbit Apr 30, 2022, 7:59 PM

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Even if he did the semi-random increments appended to the hostname should avoid that.

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Yeah I see that issue too

high token Apr 30, 2022, 7:59 PM

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hm yeah true

pine orbit Apr 30, 2022, 8:03 PM

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But the unifi reflector/repeater should not be sending the mdns packets back on the same vlan as they went out on.

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Is this nuc perhaps attached to the network on multiple vlans (perhaps trying to segregate IOT devices from main internet, and putting the home assistant box on both? If so, then perhaps systems-resolved does not handle repeated mdns packets from one interface returning on a different interface?

keen fjord Apr 30, 2022, 8:11 PM

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No dual home assistant no

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Ha finds one extra vlan in auto config yes

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I can try to lock down the port to one vlan, but that might be an issue with connecting to vlan iot stuff then

wispy olive Apr 30, 2022, 8:18 PM

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Hey everybody. I have HA going but I can only access through a non-mobile browser after clicking through all the untrusted website warnings. Mobile app doesn't work at all. Any ideas what is going on?

humble mirage Apr 30, 2022, 8:18 PM

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The untrusted website means that you're doing SSL in HA and not accessing it with the hostname in the certificate

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Don't do that

wispy olive Apr 30, 2022, 8:21 PM

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Hmm ok. Not sure how that happened as this happens right away from a clean install of the HA image to the SD card. I will look into the cert.

humble mirage Apr 30, 2022, 8:25 PM

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It can't happen right away, unless you have a proxy server in the loop, or you're restoring a backup

red torrent Apr 30, 2022, 8:38 PM

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Hi any ideas why I can't just take my mSD card from my 3B+ and stick it into my RPi4? It will not boot, or at least I can't connect via HTTP anymore. Can'T find it in my routers wireless networks. Wired the same problem. For other example I took my mSD card from the even older 3B from my 3d printer and put it into the 4. Works fine.
Using HAOS

high token Apr 30, 2022, 8:39 PM

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because there are different HAOS images for each Pi

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there is not one universal one like there is for RpiOS

red torrent Apr 30, 2022, 8:51 PM

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okay, just hoped I can run a short test.

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meep 😄

high token Apr 30, 2022, 8:52 PM

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you'd need to make a backup on Rpi3, download it, then flash the Rpi4 image and restore your backup to it

red torrent Apr 30, 2022, 10:03 PM

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yeah thanks, worked well. Just had to get a free mSD card unless it'S just a test at the moment 😉

wispy olive Apr 30, 2022, 10:18 PM

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humble mirage It can't happen right away, unless you have a proxy server in the loop, or you'r...

Not sure how I did that. I removed the SSL stuff in the yaml and I can access everything fine now. Thanks for the pointer.

high token Apr 30, 2022, 10:20 PM

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Obviously though if you have opened your HA to the world by port forwarding you do need certificates for SSL

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If you haven't then it's fine

astral kayak May 1, 2022, 9:39 AM

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Hello

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after HA upgrade

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I got the following errors:

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2022-05-01 11:25:42 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setup failed for mjpeg: No setup or config entry setup function defined.
2022-05-01 11:25:42 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setup failed for generic: No setup or config entry setup function defined.
2022-05-01 11:25:44 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.config_entries] Error importing platform config_flow from integration sun to set up sun configuration entry: No module named 'homeassistant.components.sun.config_flow'

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how to fix them?

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 9:40 AM

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Upgrade to what version of HA?

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What install method are you using?

astral kayak May 1, 2022, 9:43 AM

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2021.12.10

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pip install

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 9:44 AM

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Upgrade to something 4 months old ablobthinking

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Have you considered switching to Container?

astral kayak May 1, 2022, 9:46 AM

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I was on 2021.12.10 before

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I upgraded to 2022 but I decided to go back to 2021.12.10

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 9:46 AM

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2022.what?

astral kayak May 1, 2022, 9:46 AM

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before it was working...

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latest 2022

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how can I fix and make it working again?

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 9:47 AM

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Check the log file to see what the problem is?

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It may be quicker to switch to using Container

astral kayak May 1, 2022, 9:47 AM

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I find only that error in log

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the one I pasted

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any idea on how to fix?

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I'd like not to switch to Container

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 9:48 AM

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Try renaming the old venv and building it fresh

astral kayak May 1, 2022, 9:51 AM

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how?

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can I delete the .storage folder?

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 9:53 AM

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Deleting .storage/ will break your HA

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That would be not a good idea

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If you followed the docs then /srv/homeassistant is your venv

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi#install-home-assistant-core

astral kayak May 1, 2022, 9:55 AM

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but this way I delete all files like config/uilovelace etc...

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 9:56 AM

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blink

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I hope to heck you've got backups you can restore from then

astral kayak May 1, 2022, 9:57 AM

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what does this mean?

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ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setup failed for mjpeg: No setup or config entry setup function defined

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 9:59 AM

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It probably points to a problem with the version of Python or the requirements (libraries)

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You know, you'd probably be up and running on Docker by now

astral kayak May 1, 2022, 10:00 AM

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😦 I don't understand what you're trying to say

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and I'd like a quick fix

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to make it working again

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as it was working before...

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 10:05 AM

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Quick fix... https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#install-home-assistant-container

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Slow fix... remove your venv and start with a fresh one

astral kayak May 1, 2022, 10:10 AM

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How can you call "quick" a total re-installation of HA? 😦

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elif not hasattr(component, "async_setup_entry"):
log_error("No setup or config entry setup function defined.")
return False

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what does it mean?

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this is the piece of code firing the error

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 10:12 AM

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astral kayak How can you call "quick" a total re-installation of HA? 😦

It's pulling a container and start it... that's not a total re-installation. All your config remains

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Slow is to "re-install" - as I've recommended repeatedly

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Oh, and you are on Python 3.9 for that venv?

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#551864459891703809 message covers how to migrate from Core to Container

keen fjord May 1, 2022, 11:36 AM

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Strange. The DNS issue IS VLAN related. If I turn the VLAN profile to just one tag to HA it doesnt log the DNS craze, but if I open up for all tags (all networks) it goes crazy. I wonder if this could be an OS issue as now I can just access VLAN 100, not 101 etc where the IOT stuff are

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:06 PM

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since a few months my HA does not restart when i press the restart button
also when i try to install an update it refuses to do so.

in order to restart or install updates i have to physically cut power to the Pi and after a cold boot it is able to install updates
i use node red for automations and that gets slow aswell from time to time

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 12:10 PM

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What's your install method?

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:10 PM

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OS on RPI 3b+

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 12:11 PM

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Could be an SD card failing issue, but check the OS and Core logs

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:12 PM

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not much to see in the logs yet

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also cant reboot right now cuz zigbee2mqtt is updating a bulb firmware

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 12:13 PM

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It may also be you're low on RAM, with all that on one Pi3

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:13 PM

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hmm

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can i view ram use in a dashboard?

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 12:15 PM

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Not sure, I don't use HAOS

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:17 PM

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there is a system monitor integration that i can install via the config file

still waiting on that bult to update tho

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honestly i might be asking too much from the small Pi

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https://imgur.com/a/swgiAv3

This is the node red page dedicated to the kitchen lights automation

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:44 PM

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humble mirage Could be an SD card failing issue, but check the OS and Core logs

anything specefic you wanna see log wise?

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 12:45 PM

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I'd go looking for any errors or warnings that point to issues...

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Without knowing what's actually wrong it's impossible to say exactly what to look for, and if we knew exactly what was wrong you wouldn't need to go looking...

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:46 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/W3a82HK

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heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:47 PM

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will do

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 12:48 PM

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Images of text are pretty damn horrible

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:48 PM

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tbh i agree
didnt think of that

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https://dpaste.org/BYuoG

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 12:50 PM

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I'm guessing you haven't run a ha core check ever ablobjoy

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2022-05-01 13:45:38 WARNING (SyncWorker_0) [homeassistant.util.yaml.loader] YAML file /config/configuration.yaml contains duplicate key "group". Check lines 10 and 17
2022-05-01 13:45:38 WARNING (SyncWorker_0) [homeassistant.util.yaml.loader] YAML file /config/configuration.yaml contains duplicate key "automation". Check lines 11 and 75

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:50 PM

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wouldnt even know what that check would be

abstract hearthBOT May 1, 2022, 12:50 PM

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Always run the configuration check command when you make changes. Don't trust the UI check - it misses some problems.

HAOS & Supervised use ha core check
Container uses docker commands
Core requires you to activate the venv first

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:50 PM

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oh

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 12:50 PM

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Run in the terminal

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:51 PM

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i always do the ui check yes

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 12:51 PM

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You may have noticed that some of group and automations are missing

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:51 PM

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its processingh

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 12:51 PM

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It takes a little longer since it does a proper check

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:52 PM

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humble mirage You may have noticed that some of group and automations are missing

i did notice that when i tried to make an automation in the HA GUI, it doesnt save

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i never use the regular automation tho since i do everything in node red

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 12:53 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/devices/ explains how to have multiple group: (etc) entries in YAML

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:56 PM

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humble mirage <https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/devices/> explains how to have...

https://dpaste.org/mRDnV

i guess i broke alot trying to get stuff working

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 12:57 PM

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Line 17 should be something like

group whatever:

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Line 75 should be similar

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Though, for light you can/should use a light.group instead, so you get a light entity

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 12:58 PM

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hmm

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 1:01 PM

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humble mirage Line 17 should be something like ```yaml group whatever: ```

group home:
home:
name: Home
entities:
- device_tracker.note_20
- device_tracker.s10

so like this instead of only doing group:

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humble mirage May 1, 2022, 1:02 PM

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Yup, and home can be anything

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Whatever you put there is ignored, it just has to exist

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 1:02 PM

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okay

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and then make a seperate group entry for every group i need instead of placing everything under one line

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like i have now

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 1:03 PM

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What?

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No

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I said to change two lines since that's all you have to fix

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heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 1:04 PM

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ah

humble mirage May 1, 2022, 1:04 PM

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Once more - lines 17 and 75 are the two lines you need to change

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Nothing else

heavy sleet May 1, 2022, 1:05 PM

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👍

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run the terminal command again ? instead of the UI check

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https://dpaste.org/17Tak

New log after changing the 2 lines