installation-archived

[humble mirage]

You can't run it on one, and there's no way I'm helping anybody do something so mind numbingly dumb, sorry 😉

[teal summit]

Ok sorry did not know can’t run it there will do it (try it) on MacBook I didn’t try yet so not sure if is so dumb if so I will feel that way lol but sorry not everyone fall already smart from heaven like some people. (Just cheeky sarcasm dnt take it wrong way) Anyway thank you I do appreciate

[humble mirage]

It'll run just fine in a VM on the Mac

[vocal atlas]

That's a bit impolite. Pretty much every tablet has more performance than a raspberry pi.

[humble mirage]

1. It's unsupported
2. It's unsupported
3. Tablets aren't designed as servers
4. Wifi is terrible for servers
5. It's unsupported

Oh...
6) It's dumb

[vocal atlas]

OK thanks man for letting me know your opinion should not be considered in any argument

[royal moon]

Hey guys.
I'm from Denmark so we use EU plugs and switches are smaller than many other countries.
So I'm looking for two things.

1. A contact to set between my freezer, coffe machine, washingmachine etc to measure how much power the use.
   could this work? https://www.banggood.com/da/4PCS-BlitzWolf-BW-SHP15-Zgbee-3_0-16A-3680W-Smart-Plug-Wireless-Power-Socket-Outlet-EU-Plug-APP-Remote-Control-or-Voice-Control-or-Multiple-Timer-Modes-Compatible-With-Amazon-Alexa-or-Google-Assistant-p-1903535.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=CategoryElectronicsPop

2. And then the switch to replace the ones built in walls. In Denmark we almost only have one model and it's good, but I want to know if there's anything else and maybe for better price.
   This one: https://smartkontakten.dk/vare/hue-kompatibel-zigbee-batteritryk-til-fuga/

And is it possible to check energy on all lights to calculate the kw and then price?

[manic bane]

Regardless of anything, it being unsupported renders it a stupid idea. Especially so if you’re very new to everything. It can be a fun thing to tinker with, just not a stable item to actually do anything on

[latent thistle]

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/ha-inaccessible-after-failed-to-call-service-system-log-write/410408/3 I have found a link between this and esphome

[vocal atlas]

Sure, it renders it an unsupported idea. That doesn't mean it's stupid depending on your intention. I was more put off by the annoying know it all I'm better than you response to such a request

[latent thistle]

whenever I try to flash/install/ updated esp32 device using esphome, HA become unresponsive

it remains so until I physically restart the rpi4

[manic bane]

It comes from a bunch of people wanting to do it then complaining it doesn’t work. Because an android tablet actually doesn’t work better than a Pi for HA

[humble mirage]

I mean, it's been a while since somebody's done that and killed the onboard storage with excessive writes...

[fallow maple]

is there a config file we can edit on the haOS to connect it to wifi

[ripe flint]

Existing Home Assistant user here. Is there a way to install Hass OS on a Coral Dev Board? The board boots from SD cards or internal flash.

[humble mirage]

In theory it might be supported by the Pi based builds, if you're really really lucky

[crude inlet]

@fallow maple https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/blob/dev/Documentation/network.md#manual-network-configuration

[humble mirage]

You're likely to be a lot better off just doing a Container install

[ripe flint]

I've tried release-pi4 and the general aarch64 from the dev page

Maybe I will try pi3

[teal summit]

Hello Hope all doing well after several times been trying Download virtual box and I find finally the problem. As I Got Macboom Pro with M1 chip is not supporting Virtual box. Any advice please have I can sort HA in it please? Privet message me I would really appreciate and please leave comments how dumb I am loool (as one member already pointed out) if I didn’t not work with things like this before. Bet some people would not be able do my work neither what I do for life. Everyone we are good in different things

[teal summit]

Thank you 😉

[teal summit]

Do you think UTM is my best option?

[vocal atlas]

Installation of debian in parallels could work and then you Install the docker version on it

[iron cedar]

Does the 64 bit HassOS usually take longer than 20 min to prepare on a rpi 4 b+?

[grand pivot]

It can based on the storage device that you're using, or you could be experiencing network issues. Clicking the blue dot will help determine what's going on

[iron cedar]

Oh thanks, yeah it's downloading stuff. But that blue dot tip was awesome. Thanks :)))

Oh seems like it has errored a few times
https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/fuziguvuvo.yaml

[crude inlet]

DNS

[grand pivot]

(always)

[iron cedar]

Oh yeah, the HASSOS was acting as my DNS server lol

[crude inlet]

On a previous install?

You can try changing it on your router

[iron cedar]

Done that now, do I need to restart the installation or does it automatically find it?

1.1.1.1 was setup as the backup DNS in the router tho

[crude inlet]

I'd try unplugging ethernet and plugging it back in instead of pulling power

Wait a bit and refresh the page and see if that takes

Is this a Pi?

[iron cedar]

Yes

Pi 4b+

[fossil veldt]

other than VM is there a way to install the HA server on PCs? I dont mean within windows but like a fresh install from the OS from dos maybe or ?

[humble mirage]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64#install-home-assistant-operating-system

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64#install-home-assistant-container if you don't mean HAOS

[fossil veldt]

SWEET

cheers

[iron cedar]

seems like it still has issues https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/genebovura.yaml

[crude inlet]

ok now I would pull power 😛

[iron cedar]

Guess I'm one step ahead then, lost patience after that message and pulled it lol

Still getting the error after reboot yaml [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2022.4.2: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2022.4.2&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi4-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection

I can reach the url from my pc

[iron cedar]

reflashed sd card same issue :/

[manic lark]

whats the point of running 2 instances of HA? anyone here on that scenario that can name a few benefits of that?

[humble mirage]

Test instance is one common use

[jovial rampart]

I have a backup docker install I can spin up for any number of reasons. My original goes down, I want to play with things. I get a weird itch I can’t scratch any other way. With docker it is easy to rsync your config anywhere and spin it up.

[humble mirage]

I have:

1. Production HA node
2. Z-Wave HA node
3. Test Core HA node
4. Test Container HA node

[jovial rampart]

5. Frigate node

Let’s just be honest here. You do it, because you can 🤣

[high token]

Some of mine are even in different physical locations 😛

[jovial rampart]

I have two raspi and a NUC and a desktop behind my bedroom dresser. Two desktops an odroid and a raspi behind my entertainment center. One raspi at the front of the house and one at the back.

[iron cedar]

For future reference this was the solution #330990055533576204 message
The link has been removed but bellow is the solution instead.

It seems that netgear blocks ghcr.io in atleast my case which results in Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2022.4.2: 500 Server Error for... this can be solved by changing the dns server for homeassistant.

you'll be at the ha cli (ha >). Type login which will take you to the underlying shell --> #
then nmcli con show should show you one entry in green
edit that connection using nmcli con edit "Home Assistant OS default" (that should be its name or something close that makes sense)
then set ipv4.dns 9.9.9.9 and set ipv4.ignore-auto-dns yes
save
quit
and finally ha host reboot

I think atleast cuz I can ping ghrc.io now

[high token]

those are a lot of raspis

[jovial rampart]

They were fun till they weren’t. Then you have to find uses for them. I have a kismet wireless install that uses two of them to scan WiFi and Bluetooth. One day I will figure out why 🤣

[high token]

Haha

install first work out why later

[jovial rampart]

There is a laptop somewhere that was doing network sniffing. When you have kids, old laptops come in handy

The kismet install brings in so much info I haven’t figured out how to use it

And I got a couple Dell desktops cheap

[high token]

I have an RPi4 for production HA, Odroid housing docker containers (another HA there among several other containers), old Rpi3 became 3D printer server and 2nd Rpi3 I took with me here for another HA to play with if I wanted to lol. Back home on Friday will be getting things ready to migrate to a Proxmox installation (got my hand on a SFF)

[jovial rampart]

3 routers, opensense, edgerouter, poe switch. Couple unmanaged switches.

[high token]

you got some serious amount of hardware

[high token]

that's always the answer 😉

[jovial rampart]

Yea, when I do something….I go all in. Problem now is when it just isn’t as fun 🤣. Maintenance still there 🤣

[high token]

If only that wasn't necessary

[iron cedar]

Seems like netgear really hates GHRC.io since there has been atleast three people in here showing this issue using a netgear router

[high token]

this was also the case with some people having HA on a switch and they would get it to work when connected directly to router. I wonder if those switches were also netgear

I can't remember anymore

[iron cedar]

In my case I had a 24 port managed HP switch

[latent thistle]

how to fix this "Home Assistant observer
Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Unsupported
Healthy: Unhealthy
"

[humble mirage]

What's your install method? HAOS?

[latent thistle]

HAOS

it loses connection at random time. what I have noticed is whenever I try to update my esphome configuration it simply crashes

[humble mirage]

What hardware are you running it on?

[latent thistle]

rpi4

[humble mirage]

Which model?

[latent thistle]

model b 2Gb

it started after 2202.4

[vital yew]

Afternoon all. Trying to update my Home Assistant Core from 2022.4.2 to 2022.4.3 but I am getting an error "System is not healthy" when i try

[humble mirage]

What's your install method?

[vital yew]

Docer

Docker

on ubuntu

[humble mirage]

Native Container never mentions health

[vital yew]

https://www.codepile.net/pile/B0NwkJ9V

[humble mirage]

You only get that reported if you're using HAOS or Supervised

See https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/info/ to see your install method

I'm betting you've got Supervised

[vital yew]

Yes supervised

i was able to upgrade from 2022.4.1 to 4.2 with no issues

[humble mirage]

Well, "good" news...

Supervised isn't supported on Ubuntu

That's likely at least part of your problem

[vital yew]

thats teh good news!

whats the bad news!

[humble mirage]

The bad news is that it's not supported, and never will be, and you can't make that system healthy

[vital yew]

fantastic

quickest way for me to fix this?

backup, fully re-install, then restore?

[humble mirage]

Take a backup, re-build with HAOS, restore

Or, if you must run Supervised, use Debian and this time ensure you comply with all the requirements

(that includes not running other containers outside of add-ons)

Unless you've got hardware that's not supported by HAOS though, HAOS is the way to go

[vital yew]

Im running VMware Workstation on a dedicated Windows Box#

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/windows

so i guess this

whats the fullest way to run a backup?

Just use the full backup from under configuration?

[humble mirage]

In that case absolutely use the VM images

[vital yew]

will the backup/restore literally restore everything or am i going to have a load of manual work to do ?

trying to decide if i attempt this now with on 30 minutes spare, or if i need to wait until i have a full day spare

lol

[humble mirage]

AFAIK it covers all your add-ons and HA config, that's kinda the point

Nothing stopping you spinning up a fresh VM and trying it out though

[vital yew]

yep on it

@humble mirage once again thank you for your help! Twice in three days, your a bit of a hero

[latent thistle]

whats strange it is connected on tailscale but not on zero-tier

still inaccessible.

[midnight marsh]

looking to get some help with my install ... I've been running HassOS for a little over a year on a RPi 4b

i decided to try running on different hardware

so my current test setup is on a macbook running docker desktop

i'm running core in docker and i have HA running .. i'm slowly adding in all my integrations ... HACS is installed and i've got a bunch of frontend custom components isntalled

at this point, on my dashboard i get custom elements doesn't exist

in my config.yaml file i've added the proper resources under lovelace

the only way I can get it to work is if I add the line "mode: yaml"

problem is i want to keep it in UI mode ...

[humble mirage]

You can add resources using the UI

No need for YAML mode

-> Dashboards -> Resources

[midnight marsh]

I only have that on the old setup on the RPi4b running HassOS, not on the core docker container

[abstract hearth]

Various settings are hidden unless your user profile has Advanced mode enabled. These include some add-ons, the Lovelace Resources menu, server control options, and more.

Command '~advanced' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[midnight marsh]

argh

been bashing my head in because of that

thanks 😄

[high token]

are you wanting to start from scratch? Why not 'restore' your files?

[outer token]

Hi! As I am now searching and trying for at least half of the day - does HA OS 6.0 and newer run on Hyper-V on Windows Server 2012 r2? I can't get it to finish update (tries 3x to boot entry "system0" and then goes for entry "system1"), and not even a fresh .vhdx newer than 5.13 will boot up.
I am running it like this since HassOS 2.12, and had no issues yet. But from 6.0 and upwards nothing will even boot.
Tried 6.0, 6.6 and 7.6 on my Win10 Hyper-V, and all went up

[midnight marsh]

umm .... can i restore a HassOS backup to this docker version?

will stuff break?

[high token]

there's no supervisor to restore a backup with

but you can take the entirety of the /config folder and add it to the new /config folder

[midnight marsh]

oh gotcha ... yeah i've been adding things slowly

i thought youy meant you coudl restore .. haha

[high token]

it's really the same thing

as long as you include .storage .cloud folders

[midnight marsh]

but yes, i'm adding stuff in bit by bit ... but the integrations i'm putting back in manually tho

[high token]

anything configured in the UI lives in .storage If you were to override it with the one from the old HA would be like you did a restore

[midnight marsh]

and i'm having a hell of a time with the tp-link kasa one ... isn't there a way to do that manually in yaml?

[midnight marsh]

oh ... didn't realize that

[high token]

literally if you unzip your backup and take everything from your homeassistant /config and override the /config of the docker HA then restart it should bring everything back

as it was

[midnight marsh]

interesting ....

i don't mind doing it all manually .. gives me a chance to clean stuff up a bit 😄

but maybe some things can just be restored

the two that are giving me the most trouble are my alarm decoder and tp-link kasa integrations

[high token]

its not really easy to pick and choose from the .storage folder

[midnight marsh]

oh wow ... i just opened up the folder and yeah i see what you mean

[crude inlet]

yeah just restore the whole /config

and everything in it

[midnight marsh]

this dockerized configuration is still work in progress ... so how should i handle my zwave dongle and esphome integration?

for zwave i don't want to migrate the stick over to the new system yet ....

and for esphome ... can devices be connected to 2 different esphome instances?

[vital yew]

Dont suppose anyone is using Vmware Player 16 to run HASIO?

The guide here: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/windows talks about going to settings>options>advanced to set the firmware type to UEFI, but this isnt an option in Vmware Player 16

(Vmware Workstation Player 16)

firmware = "efi"

for anyone else, you have to edit the vmx file and add that line

@humble mirage so took the backup, all up and running in HASIO, but cannot find how to restore from backup

Ignore found a way of doing it 🙂

that turned out to all be super easy! 🙂

[outer token]

just tried the 8.0rc1 - same bootloop, so it's not related to barebox...

is there any log that could help at that point?

or some debugging I could activate in bootloader?

[outer token]

Just to let you know what I am struggling with: https://risen.eu/pub/HassOS_updatefail.mp4
Same behavior with stock .vhdx files in 6.0, 6.6, 7.6 and 8.0rc1, except that these do not have a working system to fallback to after three fails...

[torn monolith]

I asked in the general chat, and was sent over here!😁 I am kinda stuck with a serious issu on my home assistant. I upgraded my network to fiber and had to factory reset my mesh router. I implemented the same wifi ssd name and password, but (as I hope would not happen) the home assistant will not connect to wifi.. so I am kinda stuck, and are not able to reach the home assistant, even though I have it connected with a ethernet cable:/ Any suggestions? After falling in love with using HA, it is a hard set back when nothing works anymore😅

[crude inlet]

@torn monolith the Ethernet connection should have a different IP address

[torn monolith]

Then what do I need to do😊

[lyric thicket]

im hoping someone can help me...I have proxmox loaded on a thin client that has only 8GB of HDD space. I have a USB SSD drive that i want to attach. I want to install HASSOS per these directions: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/installing-home-assistant-os-using-proxmox-7/201835/59....... I'm not sure how to connect the USB Drive to the pc so that this drive space is shared properly so i have enough room to install HA and to have room to store the data from there as well. the backups im trying to restore from are approx 11GB's.

appreciate any help on this!!

[manic bane]

Use your router to see what IP address is assigned or connect a display and see what it’s giving you. Definitely recommend using Ethernet long term too

[turbid rapids]

Hey if I move from a Raspberry pi 3 to 4, will the backup from 3 work to just add to my 4?

[latent thistle]

➜ ~ ha core check
Processing... Done.

Post "http://supervisor/core/check": context deadline exceeded (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)
➜ ~

[latent thistle]

yes

[vital yew]

Morning All. Dont suppose anyone can help answer something silly for me!

I am running HASSIO, and i have the SSH Add-On installed.

However when i SSH i notice i am at a bash prompt, and not the hassio command line

how do i enter the hassio command line from the bash prompt?

worked it out. Thanks

[urban flame]

Hi all - a quick question - after installing hass os 8.0rc1 my RaspberryPi lost wifi access and I'm now stuck, Unable to downgrade. I want to reflash the RaspberryPi and start fresh.
I have run a backup through the console and want to copy that back to a USB drive. Is that possible through the console?

[onyx void]

Hi Guy's
If I install Home Assistant OS Release-8 build 0 (RC1) will the updater recognise the official release and offer to update to it?

[runic token]

Hello Experts of HA,

i installed home assistant core on venv on raspi (i realise no the most popular way of doing all HA things) ... i update the venv to python 3.9.0 as 3.7 was announced to be deprecated, but i still get the warning on the home assistant as a notification

[crude inlet]

@onyx void you'll probably need to manually update to it

@urban flame you could try rebooting it 3 times or so

[urban flame]

@crude inlet tried,not working. Was able to rebuild core and reboot. Some how network returned (only wired, wlan still missing). Connected to the network and downgraded os back to 7.6. Now all is working

[crude inlet]

@urban flame yes, it was a known issue with the RC version

It sounded like wired wasn't an option.

[humble mirage]

When you "updated" the venv, did you blow away the old one and rebuild it, or ... what?

[runic token]

yes i deactivated it and deleted the file

[runic token]

i ran a check of the installation, seems i am have trouble with libffi.so.7

[homeassistant.auth.providers] Unable to load auth provider homeassistant: libffi.so.7:

[humble mirage]

folder, not file

[humble mirage]

That means you didn't install all the pre-requisite libraries

libffi-dev amongst others

http://blog.ceard.tech/2017/12/upgrading-python-virtual-environment.html is slightly outdated, but should get you close

[runic token]

i'll try again, thank you for the quick reply

exactly the guide i followed

[humble mirage]

And yet you missed the libraries 😛

[runic token]

says i should just remove it from the requirements.txt if i ran into trouble

[runic token]

thing is, i don't know what i am doing...first time trying out core

[humble mirage]

You probably should use Container then, unless there's a strong reason for needing a Python venv

[runic token]

only reason is stubbornness, used 2 days trying to understand the Core installation, too invested 😛

[grand pivot]

That's called the Sunk Cost Fallacy

[humble mirage]

[runic token]

also i am running the raspi for other purposes

[humble mirage]

So?

Container

That co-exists just fine

And you'd already be up and running

[runic token]

makes so much sense when you guys put a name to the idiocracy

hahah

alright guys! thanks a lot, will try container 🙂 🙂

[velvet mirage]

Hi guys im thinking of installing hassio on a nuc , but i wanted to know if the difference between hdd and ssd installation is very diferent on the speed aspetc of ha

[humble mirage]

You're unlikely to notice much of a difference - only if you're viewing history or the Logbook, and even then maybe not much

[velvet mirage]

thx so much @humble mirage its nice then i can use the plex add on and the hdd i already use for plex

[humble mirage]

Well, you'll wipe that HDD in the process

[velvet mirage]

i know im already backing up my movies/tv shows

[runic token]

so much easier!!

[manic lark]

is it possible to run 2 instances of HA in 2 pies? any configuration i need to add to the second one?

what i want to acomplish is this

my main HA in one pie had everything i need and attached a broadlink remote
i want another HA to attached a camera and avoid slowing the first one

[high token]

attach a camera you mean just adding an integration for a camera stream?

which Pis?

[manic lark]

attached to the usb pi

[manic lark]

raspberry pie 3

[crude inlet]

directly attached probably won't work well unless you are running an OS other than HA OS

[ashen nacelle]

Good afternoon. I'm having troubles with hacs. I've looked everywhere and don't find anyone else with the same problem. It says that I'm using version 1.15.2 and version 1.24.5 is available. I try to update, reboot HA and keeps the same...

[grand pivot]

did you update by re-running the installation script?

[ashen nacelle]

Thanks for the reply. No. I'm afraid to loose all the settings of hacs

[grand pivot]

you will not

just re-run the script

or the whole command, more correctly

[ashen nacelle]

Ao I must do all the initial configuration ?

[grand pivot]

just re-run the script

[ashen nacelle]

*so...

[manic lark]

yes it works, actually in the main pie works but it slows it down that why i want another pie

[crude inlet]

@manic lark there is no issue with running multiple HA instances, as long as you can remember how you have things organized

You might want to change the hostname on one of them

[ashen nacelle]

Must do all the initial configuration ?

[ashen nacelle]

Thanks. It solved ! Thanks a lot !!!

[grand pivot]

fewer questions, more re-running the script 🙂

[steel sky]

@slim orchid Why not use the documented method for updating? https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/core/#update Edit: Sorry, wrong link

It may still be fixable if you try that.

[slim orchid]

I use DietpiOS and they have that Dietpi-software center and install with scripts.

I try that method from docs but still the same.

Do You know how to move my HA config to docker? It's some easy method?

I can install HA with Dockstarter in few seconds on the same device but don't know what files to move.

[grand pivot]

everything in your config directory

[slim orchid]

You mean just copy everything from my /dietpi_userdata/homeassistant/?

To new docker installation?

[merry galleon]

yes, all config files should be moved to teh new location

[slim orchid]

Folder where configuration yaml is?

[merry galleon]

yes

[slim orchid]

OK, I will try 👍

[slim orchid]

That also break my new docker installation 🫤

Also 404 error

[merry fjord]

My HA no longer prompts to install new releases. I’m still on version 2022.4.0 anyone else had this issue?

[glossy cairn]

any idea why my rasberry pi 4 would not show up on my network? i followed the instructions using balena etcher, plugged it into the network

[high token]

you can't get a screen attached to make sure it's actually booting?

[glossy cairn]

it showed it was - home assistant in big character font

also rebooted my network

[cloud lily]

is there a problem with 2022.4.4 ? pip3 can't find it just 2022.4.3

[fickle obsidian]

^ i havent been able to update and i havent been able to do any addons

im trying to update by plugging in my second monitor and spare keyboard

its been saying Processing... for a while

I was able to execute core update and it went thru but they didnt make it go away on the UI

[reef hamlet]

what is the best way to install HA on a tower pc with ubuntu?

I want to put HA directly onto linux, but im not sure what "supervised" or docker means

[grand pivot]

If you don't want to reimage with Debian, your best option is a VM

[reef hamlet]

why would i need a VM, if i already have ubuntu? what VM would i be putting on it?

thanks for being patient. i'm very very new to this.

[grand pivot]

Because Ubuntu isn't supported for a Supervised installation and not knowing what docker is makes me think that's not the right option for you either

I recommend reviewing this: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/

[olive kayak]

Hello, I am running into an issue while trying to install HA OS on a VM . following guide from community - https://community.home-assistant.io/t/installing-home-assistant-os-using-proxmox-7/201835 and https://github.com/whiskerz007/proxmox_hassos_install

error info - https://pastebin.com/mMt2Esuw

can someone help me on it? I ran this method multiple times before , it was always working.

[reef hamlet]

That first link you sent me, i have viewed many times. I have only used windows before. the surplus PC i got had ubuntu already installed on it.

i previously tried to install the KVM, and it didn't work

[queen bronze]

What effect does the .HA_VERSION file have on HA? Is it informational or is it read by something(s)?

[cursive pulsar]

hello i am running ha on a pi 4. is there a way to switch from ethernet to wifi via the ui or do i have it to do by removing the sd card and adding the my-network file?

okay, found it in the intuitive menu 😄 ... but it doesnt seem to work..

i clicked reboot and unplugged the ethernet cable. but i cant reach ha

i the ui it says its connected to wifi but its only working when the ethernet cable is connected. i love wasting time with issues like this 🥴

[hexed mirage]

check the setup in cat /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf DO NOT share details here as it will have ssid and password information. Correct if necessary and reboot

[hexed mirage]

wait - are you trying to reach the same IP over WIFI as it was via ethernet. It may not be same. check using ifconfig against the wlan0 interface

[cursive pulsar]

no i was expecting a new ip within my router.
but i solved it. hat to turn on dhcp first in ha

[hexed mirage]

good. now reserve that ip in router

[cursive pulsar]

already did 🙂

[open crow]

hello my friend; because of power interruption, my raspberry kill my usb with home assistant; i triing to reinstall from yesterday, unable to... always stuck here: [supervisor.host.manager] Host information reload completed ; if i put a monitor in, i only saw supervisor waiting setup state (something similar) 😦

i always had problem installing home assistant (always stuck install and similar), but this is the first time that i'm not able to install after 42 try (42 usb format and rewrite haha)

[fickle obsidian]

is it a server 500 error? @open crow cause then we would be in the same boat on this issue

[open crow]

no my friend, no server error. its incredible because everytime i have to install new home assistant instance, i have to try for 10 days.. i didnt change nothing, sometimes works without explaination

dont know why

nevermind, thanks all and have a nice Easter 🙂

[fickle obsidian]

lol im with you on that my man

Well, I guess I'll shoot my shot then. Hey guys, here's my problem. Fresh install on RP4 w/ SSD. Followed HA doc online for install. Booted up and looking at my RP on second monitor. Made it to the Home Assistant prompt on there. It gives IPv4, IPv6, OS Version, Home Assistant Core, Home Assistant URL, and Observer URL. On my separate computer on the network I type in the homeassistant.local:8123 and the page shows up with the wait 20 minutes while it configures things page. I hit that blue dot to see the log and it is timing out trying to install something from the web. Server 500 error. I had this issue in the past install of HA on my RP4 and was able to fix it by following these instructions

network update eth0 --ipv4-nameserver 1.1.1.1
login
nmcli con edit “Supervisor eth0”
remove ipv4.dns
set ipv4.dns 1.1.1.1
save
quit
exit
host restart
network info
supervisor log

Those don't seem to work this time. I'm stuck. Any gurus out there?

I'm on a fresh wipe of my SSD because I couldn't update to the newest core and for some reason, i couldnt install any new addons so it all felt very bricked. I tried reverting to a backup first but that didnt help at all so i went nuclear option

I kind of think what is happening is that RP4 has a bug with the new version and my fresh install is calling on that version to get itself setup and just keeps failing

I'll google around and see if there's a way to have it try to talk with a previous version or something

[fickle obsidian]

tried supervisor update and it returns Error: Update of Supervisor failed: Can't install....

its weird that it gives me internal server error because i can type login from the HA CLI and type ping yahoo.com and return yahoo.com is alive!

i can ping my router too

[runic token]

--------Configurator installation -------complete noob------
running home assistant container on a raspi. i installed hass-configurator-docker. when i ran file editor it ends-up at a different location in the file system.
see this short thread - post #6
any idea where i glitched out

[orchid pebble]

where's the thread

[orchid pebble]

can I see the exact error

[sick geyser]

so the HA VM image doesn't like being started with two network adapters eh?

[storm sluice]

why would you need that?

[sick geyser]

i have a prod network and an iot/service network

my current rPi HA host is connected to both

it could probably just be on the service LAN, it doesn't need to be on Prod

should the onboarding page be giving me some kind of indication or progress bar after I tell it to restore from a backup file?

[sick geyser]

The web interface seems to stop working after I point it to my backup file (1.8gb~)

[upper crescent]

i had home assistant running on my Pi as the OS, but wanted to run Pi hole and Homebridge etc as well. Flashed the SD card with Raspberry Pi imager, put it back in the Pi and installed Docker, then Portainer. Googled for a Portainer HomeAssistant image, and it's been a minute of trying to correct it so I can't tell you what i landed on BUT now I have like five separate containers for Hassio, but no GUI that I can find.

The containers are: hassio__ supervisor, hassio__ multicast, hassio__ observer, hassio__ audio, hassio__ dns and hassio__ cli -- they are persistent, as in, if I remove them all, they reappear.. what have i done, can anyone suggest what I can do? thanks for your help

[spare trellis]

Hi friends. I have been struggling to get the SSD install of HA on Raspberry Pi 4for a few days now. When I burn the image on the SSD, the boot drive of only 32 MB is created and rest of the drive is unused. Due to this home assistant does not complete the "Prepare home assistant" step and keeps stuck for hours. Any idea how to move forward.

[runic token]

sorry! here it is: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/file-editor-docker-there-are-container-that-could-help/283436/7

[pulsar slate]

I'm trying to update Home Assistant OS 5.13 to the latest version, but it doesn't work.
22-04-16 13:24:07 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.os.manager] Fetch OTA update from https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/download/8.0.rc2/haos_ova -8.0.rc2.raucb
22-04-16 13:25:45 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.os.manager] Completed download of OTA update file /data/tmp/hassos-8.0.rc2.raucb
22-04-16 13:25:46 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.os.manager] Home Assistant Operating System update failed with: Installation error: Failed updating slot kernel.1: failed to mount slot: failed to run mount: Child process exited with code 32

22-04-16 11:49:22 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.evaluations.base] OS-Agent is not correctly working (more-info: https://www.home-assistant.io/more-info/unsupported/os_agent)

Installed on virtualbox

@lavish anvil What is proper database?

[high token]

Try updating closer releases from the cli

Go to 6.0 first then 7.0

I think 6.0 is the one introducing OS Agent

ha os update --version 6.0

[pulsar slate]

Thank you very much, I updated to 6, now I'm updating to the latest.
We sat for 2 days and installed packages through the console to install the OS agent

XD

[high token]

Usually going to 6.0 first worked. You're not the first with this issue 😅

[placid sage]

Do you guys know if it would be acceptable to use https://version.home-assistant.io/stable.json to determine the latest version information in my own (public) scripts?
It is served via cloudflare with static content from https://github.com/home-assistant/version so i would assume it might be, but after a quick googling i didn't find external usages of this.

Why i'm asking: The latest HA OS RC releases in github are not marked as prerelease so I can't easily determine latest stable version from GH API anymore..
https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases

[hollow ledge]

HI!
I'm in the process of installing HA Supervised on my fresh Debian.
I'm stuck at this command:

root@basil:~# curl -fsSL get.docker.com | sh
# Executing docker install script, commit: 93d2499759296ac1f9c510605fef85052a2c32be
+ sh -c apt-get update -qq >/dev/null
E: The repository 'https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu bullseye Release' does not have a Release file.
root@basil:~#```
The script is trying to get an Ubuntu repo, not a Debian. 
Is this a known bug?
Do you have any tips to how to solve this?

[placid sage]

Which os are you running?
cat /etc/lsb-release would give this info

Also, this is an issue with docker installer, not with HA components, so this might not be the correct place to ask this. Or perhaps in #the-water-cooler

[hollow ledge]

the os should be fine according to the Requirements

root@basil:~# cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)"
NAME="Debian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="11"
VERSION="11 (bullseye)"
VERSION_CODENAME=bullseye
ID=debian
HOME_URL="https://www.debian.org/"
SUPPORT_URL="https://www.debian.org/support"
BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debian.org/"
root@basil:~#```

used apt-get install docker-ce docker-ce-cli containerd.io we will see how it works out

[placid sage]

I also tested the installer script on Debian 11, for me it creates the correct info.
You could try to remove /etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list and running it again, perhaps where was some other issue before

The workaround could be to manually install everything without the install script using oficcial instructions: https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/debian/

[hollow ledge]

thanks, will try that in a bit.

BTW my plan is to set up a Debian server on a mini pc, run HA supervised on it, along with other non HA related programs. is this the best way?

What I really need is to manage HA addons from the Supervisor from the web UI, but still have a server that I can use for other purposes too

Is HA Supervised on Debian a good solution for this? or is there a better installation method?

[placid sage]

In software, there is no such way a "best way" - everything has it's own (dis)advantages.

But you want to use plugins via UI you do indeed need the supervisor so you have two options:

1. Configure supervised HA yourself (what you are doing now)
2. Use Homeassistant OS

Depending on how much resources your mini-PC has, you could also virtualize the HA OS.
For example in my Intel NUC, I run Proxmox supervisor as my host and then HA OS virtual machine in it - this gives me the most flexibility by giving up some resources for virtualization overhead

[hollow ledge]

these are my specs:

• Intel Celeron J1900 4 cores @ 2GHz
• 4GB DDR3
• 120GB SSD

I think it could run a VM, but I feel a bit more stable with not having 2 machines in one

[placid sage]

Yeah, 4GB RAM is a bit sparse for running HA in VM (HA reccommended minimum is already 4GB).

If you have the time and will you could also install HA OS directly on the nuc, and deploy your own workloads in docker containers as an addon.
See more here on how to develop them: https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/add-ons/

[hollow ledge]

thanks, that could be a project for the future.
Right now my new issue is that the Spotify Connect addon doesn't see the HDMI as an audio output. maybe I have to manually enable it for the container?

[teal hill]

i'd recommend checking out if you can add ram to the mini pc, and if you can just install proxmox and run HA in a vm

[spare trellis]

Hi! I am trying to install HA on RP4. Tried both SSD and microSD but I get stuck on preparing stage. Desperate for help.

21-10-12 20:56:20 INFO (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2022.4.4
21-10-12 20:56:20 INFO (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant with tag 2022.4.4.
21-10-12 20:56:23 ERROR (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2022.4.4: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2022.4.4/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2022.4.4: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2022.4.4")
21-10-12 20:56:23 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec

I also notice that my 256 GB SSD is all empty and HA bootable is just 32 MB.

[fickle obsidian]

https://www.home-assistant.io/faq/404/#:~:text=Dashboards-,404 Client Error%3A Not Found ('no%20such%20image%3A%20homeassistant,the%20image%20to%20be%20downloaded.

i googled Home Assistant 404 error

you could try doing it manually and see if it works. If you can plug in the hdmi on the pi to a monitor and find a keyboard you can type on the CLI
login
docker pull ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2022.4.4

[fickle obsidian]

I'm stuck at "Preparing Home Assistant"

It's a DNS problem I can't solve

I've been watching the su logs while plugged into my RP4 via HDMI and keyboard. I can manually do a docker pull of the image its trying to automatically fetch and download if I login and execute nmcli con edit "Supervisor eth0" and change my ipv4 dns to 1.1.1.1

After nmcli con edit changes I can reboot the host and do my manual docker pull, which succeeds in downloading but it doesnt have an affect on getting me out of the preparing home assistant process im stuck in

[left kraken]

Hoow long could take restore HA from the backup? Backup is about 400MB, and i freshly installed hassio

[fickle obsidian]

my backups b4 my problem occurred only took maybe 5 mins on my RP4

it depends on compute power and data transfer speeds

[left kraken]

crap, i am waiting already 20 minutes and cannot connect to webapi

IP is visible on router config site

Hassos is SSHable by default?

[fickle obsidian]

no but you can plug in an hdmi to your device and see its output and talk to the CLI

if youre using this http://homeassistant.local:8123/

try this http://homeassistant:8123/

[left kraken]

problem is that i have no lan acess near my HDMI acess

[hoary badger]

Hey all, new here. Just installed HA using the Docker method (on Windows). Container seems fine. No obvious signs of trouble in the log. But, I cannot seem to connect to the site (myip:8123). What gives? How do I verify everything is ok? What could I be missing?

[humble mirage]

Docker on Windows isn't supported

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/windows lists two options, neither of which is Docker

The problem is, Docker on Windows is less than fully functional - particularly on the networking side

[willow reef]

Hi everyone. I've installed my version of HA using docker in a sinology NAS which carries the problem of not having the "supervisor" mode and turns everything a bit harder to install addons.

Wonder how can I install an add-on that I've downloaded from github. Any help?

[grand pivot]

you can't use addons at all

you can install your own docker containers

[willow reef]

I managed to install HACS

[unkempt crow]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/#compare-installation-methods

[grand pivot]

that's unrelated to addons

[willow reef]

I c

So if I use HA within a container... there's no addons

So, best option to use it inside a Sinology NAS would be to install ubuntu into a container and then add the HA ?

[grand pivot]

um, no

you can use the docker installation that you already have and add whatever containers you want

or install the HA OS image in a VM, I suppose, if your NAS supports that

"best option" is up to you, but none involve installing ubuntu in a container

[left kraken]

It runs, but : https://pastebin.pl/view/f348eff7

[soft silo]

New to Home Assistant, but long time MisterHouse/Insteon/X10 person. Just swapped over from now-defunct Insteon Hub (online) to Home Assistant to restore Alexa connectivity.

Is there a way to re-run autodiscovery for Insteon Hubs? My VM host died 1/2 way through discovery and now I'm missing 20 or so devices.

[half patio]

How easy was it to pick up Home Assistant. I too am a long time INsteon user and need a new platform

[humble mirage]

The answer is very much how long is a piece of string - a lot will depend on you

If you're looking for some polished point-n-click thing, it's probably not for you. If you want something flexible and powerful and are happy to deal with the fact that you'll need to learn how it works, then give it a shot

[primal osprey]

I'm installing Home Assistant on an Odroid UX4 and booting up is giving me this screen: https://imgur.com/a/EuESaKK
As you can see i can't read the left half of the text and moving it with my monitor's controls doesn't reveal what's to the left and therefore I can't complete the installation.
Localhost shows "Preparing Home Assistant" for the past 40 minutes so I think it's waiting for me to do something on the Odroid. Does anyone know what I should press to complete the installation since I can't read the options?

[humble mirage]

Click the blue circle

[grand pivot]

Maybe it needs to say that

[humble mirage]

Why would you make it easy for people to find out why their install is taking a while?

[grand pivot]

It's like it's laughing at the poor users. Ha! I know why it's not working but I'm not telling!

My ISY994 shows a single line display that updates with the last log entry and makes it easier to see what's going on without filling the page with a log

[crude inlet]

It's probably DNS tho

[humble mirage]

It does often seem to be

[grand pivot]

Maybe just a static message with that 🙂

[humble mirage]

Maybe actually replace the blue circle with

[grand pivot]

Ya know, maybe start the thing with a health check and display the results

I'm just full of ideas that I have no plans to implement

But seriously, that would be good, right?

[crude inlet]

I think mdegt01 is working on it

[fickle obsidian]

Same bs I’m sitting on

No way to fix the dns error that I can figure out anyway

[primal osprey]

Update: It's fixed now. I had to flash the ROM again

[placid sage]

Linux containers are isolated from the rest of the hardware, you'll need to tell docker to pass any device to the container, including sound devices.
This SO post describes on how to do it: https://stackoverflow.com/a/28985715/1119550
However, it requires --privileged flag, which grants the container with pretty much full control of the host machine, defeating all container isolation so use with care.

If running supervised addon, then you could enable the privileged mode from the addon settings page

[fickle obsidian]

Update: Fixed my dns issue

[midnight marsh]

i'm in the middle of setting up a new HA configuration going from my current RPi4 haOS to a docker configuration on my mac

a lot of stuff has been migrated/works

but i've noticed a bunch of things that don't work properly and i'm wondering if it's because of docker on mac because network host mode is not available for docker on mac/windows?

the motivation for setting it up this way is to 1) repurpose older hardware and 2) being a laptop, it has inherent "battery backup" 😄 3) the rpi4 setup for some odd reason for these past few months exhibits very high memory usage and is causing some issues.

[native rock]

Hi, I have a Fibaro door/window sensor and my HA has recognized it as a number. How can I modify the identity to be a binary_sensor?

I tried the new identity change, but it doesn't work for other than Switch.

[grand pivot]

the binary_sensor entity may just be disabled

what integration exposes a door/window sensor as a number?

[native rock]

fibaro is a zwave manufacture. upon syncing, it appeared as number

[grand pivot]

see if there are disabled entities for that device

[native rock]

found it. was hidden. thx

[upper crescent]

is installing Raspbian OS with desktop the worst idea? I get extra draw on the Pi, but I have Pi 4 which should buffer most the additional computing... right?

or should i stick with Lite; I'm familiar enough with command line but wouldn't mind a bit of a reprieve from relying on them at times

to note: i want to install HA supervised on the Pi once it's up and running, to reframe the question to the audience lol... does it suffer being on a desktop-enabled pi?

[grand pivot]

It will suffer from not being Debian, which is the only supported OS for Supervised

[upper crescent]

oh my bad, raspberry pi OS is on debian:

Raspberry Pi OS with desktop

Release date: April 4th 2022
System: 64-bit
Kernel version: 5.15
Debian version: 11 (bullseye)
Size: 757MB

i'm going the Pi OS route instead of Hassio bc I want Homebridge and HKSV video, which I've hd configured to deliver cam motion notifications to my Apple TV – which is pretty sweet, and not possible on HA

just fingers crossed i'm not asking too much of the processor

[crude inlet]

I'd go with the regular docker install

You don't need supervised and its ecosystem. If you do need it, then HA OS is what to run on a Pi. It has that ecosystem and nothing else. If you need to run other things, then docker and the HA docker image.

[upper crescent]

ah cool. the things I want HA for are energy monitoring with Emporia Vue and heat pump control with ESP home.

[bitter hornet]

Anyone know why this is happening ?

"Unable to check for updates"
"You do not have any integrations that provide updates."

It pops up after I hit the "Check for updates" button.

It started happening after the 2022.4.0 update - when everything was fine before.

Thanks

[bitter hornet]

Additional:
I noticed (Github Page) there was a newer version. I manually updated to 2022.4.5 - that went aok. However, the pop-up persists when I hit the "Check for updates" button.

Additional (2)
I've checked all the logs and there's nothing mentioned (anywhere) pertaining to updates, etc.

[hexed night]

Morning folks, another insteon refugee here. Saying hi 👋

Im using a pi4 for the haos install which seemed to go fine but am getting stuck on the next step

Namely: "In the browser of your Desktop system, within a few minutes you will be able to reach your new Home Assistant on homeassistant.local:8123." etc

Does not load. Also when entering the IP address in numerical form

[humble mirage]

Try port 4357 instead of port 8123

You should have a blue dot you can click on that gives you more info

It's probably going to be DNS, there seems to be a theme of that causing issues with HAOS installs of late

[hexed night]

Thank you sir. I'll give that a try 🙏

Doesn't work either.

Connection timeout err

Same as other

[crude inlet]

2022.4.0 introduced some GitHub hammering. 2022.4.5 hopefully fixes that

[hexed night]

Should I start over and reflash my sdcard?

I didn't look at the GitHub, just copy pasted the URL given in the instructions

I see there is a release-8 now

[crude inlet]

Of HA OS? That's an RC. You can ignore that

Are you installing on a Raspberry Pi? Can you connect a monitor and keyboard to it?

[hexed night]

Yes

[crude inlet]

#installation-archived message

The steps in that linked comment are what you can use to set a public DNS on the host

[hexed night]

Excellent, thanks a lot brotha I'm doing it now

[crude inlet]

My comment about hammering GitHub has more to do with everyone else running HA who is not you

As everyone updates to the latest, there should be less of an issue with GitHub becoming suspicious of so many repo update hits

[hexed night]

I see, yeah this is an f'd up moment. What a f'n rugpull

[crude inlet]

And it's a holiday. And I'm still half asleep. Insteon's mystery yoink was not timed well. 😫

[hexed night]

Yeah terrible timing

[lofty talon]

i got so much insteon....

foolishly i was letting amazon manage thru hub

always meant to take local and to HA

now i got to get insteon_tools figured out, dump everything from hub and re-link to my PLM

cant seem to get load_devices to fire on hub

just hangs

[hexed night]

RIP

[lofty talon]

lol

well if i can get this junk off the hub without having to visit every device im good...

at the time I started HA, insteon support wasnt great so i was weak and went from PLM to hub... i should have just wrote it myself then. lol

started to but got lazy

[hexed night]

sadly did it all and no success. arp /a from desktop shows that IP is online

tried both ports, 8123 and 4357

[lofty talon]

you hub IP?

or home assistant

[hexed night]

no i'm just trying to access my pi4 where i've installed haos

Right

[lofty talon]

ah, sorry

[jovial rampart]

Can you ping the host?

Also, as mentioned before, did you connect a monitor and keyboard?

[hexed night]

yes, my pi is not headless

[jovial rampart]

So, it is up and running just can’t reach HAss?

Can you open HAss on the host?

[hexed night]

Yes I have it running. Just did followed the instructions for setting a public dns on host

when I ping i get 100% packet loss

trying to find an open port

getting zero

[jovial rampart]

Depending on your network, have you forwarded port 8123 to your host?

[hexed night]

i have not

And I only vaguely understand that process. Do I need to set a static IP or something

i feel like I'm missing some elementary step here

[jovial rampart]

Well, yes, your HaOS host should have the same IP each time it boots. I do it through IP reservations on the router.

On the host, can you run top on a cli and see home assistant running?

[hexed night]

in fing on my phone it show homeassistant.home as online

[jovial rampart]

Do you even know the ip of the host?

[hexed night]

yes i do

[jovial rampart]

And that’s the host, you need to confirm home assistant is actually running

My guess is that it is but if it isn’t, anything else is futile

[hexed night]

looks like it's running fine to me

just has no open ports, apparently

I think

[jovial rampart]

So then highly likely your network isn’t setup correctly.

But I would think there is a way to open it in a browser on the host. I do not run HaOS though so 🤷🏼

What is on the screen of the host?

[abstract hearth]

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

Command '.images' was invoked by: pdobrien3

[hexed night]

The HA cli with basic infos like ipv4 address and whatnot

[jovial rampart]

#installation-archived message

[hexed night]

I have not done port forwarding as that step was not discussed in basic setup instructions

But that may be my next effort, for lack of other ideas.

[humble mirage]

That you can't even reach the observer is pretty odd

[hexed night]

I have already performed the steps outlined here, but did not resolve the issue:

#installation-archived message

[humble mirage]

The network HA is on can reach the Internet with no filtering at all?

[hexed night]

I don't think I fully understand the question. The device is online. In any ordinary sense.

Hardwired ethernet connection to router

[humble mirage]

You're not doing anything fancy with IOT networks/VLANs or any form of firewalling?

[hexed night]

No

[jovial rampart]

When you ping the HaOS host from another computer on the same network or the internet from the host?

Something is blocking access if you can’t ping the host ip from another computer on the same network.

[hexed night]

I am using fing on an Android phone to identify devices on the network. It shows home assistant online at the expected IP address. When I ping, I get nothing. When I check for an open port, it shows none

[jovial rampart]

Do you have another computer on the same network? Outside of your phone?

[hexed night]

Yes

[jovial rampart]

Windows or linux?

[fickle obsidian]

So he’s able to view the CLI with an HDMI cord but not via browser on another device? This is new to me

[hexed night]

in a nutshell, yes that's correct

[jovial rampart]

Are you using fing to ping or another computer?

If you can’t ping the host you have network issues outside of HaOS

[hexed night]

fing at the moment

I will try from a desktop

[jovial rampart]

Right, and I don’t trust fing’s ping so try on another computer

I can’t remember if fing does any blocking or just straight network mapping

I think it depends on if you have their hardware or just their app

[hexed night]

App only

[fickle obsidian]

The app just looks on WiFi doesn’t it?

Which would be off on a fresh install

[hexed night]

The app recognizes the haos host device np

Shows online

[jovial rampart]

Ok, well I just went and opened fing and it properly pings my HAss host so you have something going on in your network

[fickle obsidian]

How’s everything connected?

[hexed night]

I can confirm that when I ping the IP address in question from a networked PC I get 100% packet loss

The PC is on wifi, the host is wired

No reason that would be a problem though

I'm stumped

[jovial rampart]

Exactly. Something is blocking things on your network

[hexed night]

How to determine what though

I'm going to have a look at my router admin

Maybe can learn something there

[jovial rampart]

Also not sure why you did this
#installation-archived message

We’re you getting the same error?

[hexed night]

This is wired though because I've set up pi devices for various things many times

[hexed night]

I was simply following the recommendation I received here, to try that

Doesn't seem to have done any harm. Just didn't apparently get at the source of the problem here

[jovial rampart]

Can you ping anything else on your network?

[hexed night]

Good question lol

Lemme see

Yes

Pinged a Sonos just now no problem

Pinged my printer

Nothing unusual here

[jovial rampart]

If you aren’t too far into your install, and I am guessing you aren’t, maybe try to reimage and start over

You did check all your cabling and such?

[hexed night]

Yes, cabling is fine. Here's what I'm gonna try now. I will swap in a freshly configured Raspbian OS on the same hardware

And open a random port

Or disable firewall entirely

Will check it's the same IP and then try to ping just as I'm doing now

Make sense?

[jovial rampart]

Yes

And then just install docker and docker-compose and spin up the HAss container

Being able to ping the host is sufficient on some level

[hexed night]

Okay so I can do all the above on Raspbian OS? I mean the whole docker container thing

[jovial rampart]

Yes

You lose supervisor and addons though

Addons are just services and/or containers though that you can install

And supervisor just adds backups which are now available on docker installs

[hexed night]

This sounds like many, many more steps than the basic haos install as attempted.

I'm still dying to know why this didn't work

[jovial rampart]

HaOS is truly a plug and play appliance. Docker install is not

[hexed night]

Well it plugged pretty good, but not playing yet

[jovial rampart]

Right, and you have very little control over the underling os.

Pick your flavor. Some like vanilla, some like chocolate chip cookie dough

[hexed night]

Well given I'm crunched for time and I'm completely new to home assistant, I was hoping for the simple/stupid version for now.

Need to be able to get back basic functions insteon douchebags rugpulled me of

Ok so I have just done the following:

1. Swapped in Raspbian OS on the pi
2. Booted up
3. Refreshed fing, shows pi at same IP as before
4. Successfully pinged as normal

So this issue was specific to my HAOS install

Not my network

I guess I'll try and retrace my steps

[jovial rampart]

Unfortunately, it is Easter and the HaOS experts seems to be looking for eggs

[hexed night]

Bad timing for insteon to f*ck everyone

Basically feeling like the Keegan-Michael Key character here and they are Jordan Peele:
https://youtu.be/CI_mFIfFars

[lucid carbon]

Where should I be storing the HA config file? (docker installation)

[grand pivot]

everything goes in the config directory, and that goes wherever you want

[lucid carbon]

/ha :P

[hexed night]

We are literally on the same step

Probably along with 10,000 other insteon refugees

[lucid carbon]

aaaaaaaaand docker errors. great. Back to googling

nvm just perms denied

pog its done

[hexed night]

Hey brotha so I went the docker container rout on Raspbian OS and everything seems to be running as expected. Set up HA account and am the web UI is very straightforward. I see a lot of my stuff is detected like my Spotify,Sonos, and other stuff however ... The crux of my problem is the Insteon hub...

Obviously the goal here was to to regain functional control of my home lighting

When I try to manually add the hub as a new integration, it unsurprisingly fails to connect

Oh joy. I just found some freshly written help on HA website. Will report back

[hexed night]

Yeah I'm stuck here. According to the above should be able to do integration. But how to get the Insteon hub reachable on the network

[jovial rampart]

I am not sure how the Insteon hub works but surely it has a reachable IP on your network. You will prob do better in #integrations-archived though

And just to make sure, you did follow these?
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/insteon

[hexed night]

I found it rather confusing. For instance, do I have to install the pyinsteon package

I did try the integrations add, yes

But connection failed

Not surprising as the device (insteon hub) shows as offline

In fing

It is receiving power and has a 'live' Ethernet connection

Green and yellows illuminated as normal

My hub type (2245) is listed among the viable options for HA to connect to

[orchid pebble]

what installation method are you running

[hexed night]

Docker install on pi4

[hexed night]

Progress. Messed around a bit with my router and restarted the Insteon hub, it reappeared on the network and long story short HA integration working as expected. It's taking some time but it is finding all my insteon devices

Hopefully no roadblocks from here. Ultimately i hope I'll be able to get the cloud account happening and mobile app access for doing it all remotely

[patent grotto]

So i've got a weird issue
I restarted my HA after some changing to my groups.yaml
suddenly I have a lot less addons on my left tab
and none of my automations show up under automations tab but the yaml file still shows all

restarted twice now and still nothing

[abstract hearth]

Always run the configuration check command when you make changes. Don't trust the UI check - it misses some problems.

• HAOS & Supervised use ha core check
• Container uses docker commands
• Core requires you to activate the venv first

Command '~check' was invoked by: RobC

[patent grotto]

ha core check completed succesfully

what else can I check?

I don't understand. everything just gone

I have a backup from a few hours ago, should I try and load that ?

in Entities ALOT is showing either red ❗ with not available or a ❗ with a recovery type logo and recovered next to it

this doenst look good at all?

I also get this in the logs when trying to restore a backup :
22-04-17 23:26:02 WARNING (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.backups.backup] Can't restore folder share: not a gzip file

[dense tusk]

new to HA. just installed several hours ago and integrated with insteon hub. renamed all devices after testing each one out. I am having issues where the overview screen shows a diff stat of the actual wall dimmer switch. I also see sometimes when i turn something off, the window flips it back as on but the light is not on.

[patent grotto]

Yeah so none of my automations are working anymore

Someone? I dont understand whats going on here

[patent grotto]

https://pastebin.com/wEWgXXU6

it was the update to the newest core version that messed up everything

I did a partial restore from yesterday, just the core and now its all back

what was wrong here ?

but almost all my zigbee devices are still unavailable I see now

after a reboot some random devices work and others dont

next reboot it changes randomly to others. some work some dont

what the F is happening here

[bitter hornet]

Anyone know why this is happening ?
"Unable to check for updates"
"You do not have any integrations that provide updates."

It pops up after I hit the "Check for updates" button.

It started happening after the 2022.4.0 update - when everything was fine before.

I noticed (Github Page) there was a newer version. I manually updated to 2022.4.5 - that went aok. However, the pop-up persists when I hit the "Check for updates" button. I've checked all the logs and there's nothing mentioned (anywhere) pertaining to updates, etc.

Thanks

[hollow ledge]

I have HA Supervised running on Debian.
What happens on a sudo shutdown? Does the OS gracefully stop HA? or just kill Docker without mercy and HA will have to return from an improper shutdown, like a power loss?

[humble mirage]

It'll be sent the shutdown signal, and if it doesn't take too long will be able to shut down cleanly

[teal rapids]

With the April update, should I stop using the MariaDB recorder and switch back to the vanilla DB recorder? Every other time I restart HA my graphs and history stop working (no new data points) since the April update

I originally switched to Maria add on to speed things up

And it helped a lot

[teal rapids]

But now..

[steel sky]

I set up my docker compose file to run a script that waits for the database to be available before starting hass. Something like ```bash
until mysql --host="$host" --user="$user" --password="$pass" -e '\q'; do
sleep 1
done

exec "$@"```

That helps a lot

[merry galleon]

@steel sky couldn't you use depends_on instead of the sleep?

[grand pivot]

I thought the same, but maybe you need to wait for the DB to really be up and responsive

[merry galleon]

still you could check for condition: service_healthy

something like depends_on: db: condition: service_healthy

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42567475/docker-compose-check-if-mysql-connection-is-ready

[teal rapids]

Can I do this with HASS though?

[merry galleon]

are you using docker?

[steel sky]

That's not in compose v3 according to the documentation.

[teal rapids]

No. It’s straight into a Pi. HA OS?

I mean, I installed Portainer and can see the main image

never messed with it though

[humble mirage]

Check https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/info/ and it tells you your install method

[merry galleon]

Was bought back in 3.9+ based on the stackoverflow thread

[steel sky]

Then I need to update some stuff.

[merry galleon]

I have myself been on the docker run cli....and need to move to docker-compose

[bitter hornet]

Anyone know why this is happening ?
"Unable to check for updates"
"You do not have any integrations that provide updates."

It pops up after I hit the "Check for updates" button.

It started happening after the 2022.4.0 update - when everything was fine before.

I noticed (Github Page) there was a newer version. I manually updated to 2022.4.5 - that went aok. However, the pop-up persists when I hit the "Check for updates" button. I've checked all the logs and there's nothing mentioned (anywhere) pertaining to updates, etc.

Thanks

[final kayak]

Guys can someone help me troubleshoot access to web interface. I am not able to reach it.
I got a vps server and installed Virtualbox and Hass OS (image from github).

It boots fine and I had selected Nat network in adapter. It gives ipv4 of 10.0.2.xx:8123 but its not reachable at all in browser. Homeassistant.local:8123 also not reachable

Weird that on trying bridged adapter, HASS does not show/get any get ip on screen.

Someone suggested creating a Nat network and forwarding ports. I tried some things but did not work. Also not sure if they are correct.
Any clues what this 10.XXX ip range is about? Should not it be 192.XXX range?

[humble mirage]

VPS ... as in cloud server?

[final kayak]

Yes. Just testing reliability. Its a good one

[humble mirage]

As for that IP range, can I introduce you to RFC 1918
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1918

homeassistant.local will only work on your LAN, with HA on the LAN

For Home Assistant on some cloud server you need to connect using the public IP - before somebody else does

[final kayak]

Actually i am ok for now to use remote desktop to use servers browser (for testing purposes) . But thats also not working. I tried this in VitualBox NAT settings (someone suggested online to someone) But not sure if i am doing right. As HASS is booting and all fine (and even network synced), so its surely a minor issue somewhere related to ports i feel
https://i.postimg.cc/66c1dzBx/Clipboard01111111111111.jpg

Here is the config ^

[humble mirage]

homeassistant.local is unlikely to work, just use the IP

[final kayak]

yes i understand but ip is not working at all. that 10.XXX is not reachable. thats the issue

[humble mirage]

It should be reachable just fine from the host running Virtualbox

(but not from anything else)

[final kayak]

Thats the problem as i said 😦 It gave me a ipv4 of 10.0.2.15:8123 ...which is not reachable in browser 😔 i tried even tried asking the server support but they are less inclined in helping with software i install

[abstract hearth]

@final kayak When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

Command '~reply' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

Well, if that's HAOS have you checked the observer?

Have you checked the console?

Have you tried pinging it from the PC running VBox?

[final kayak]

Observer ip+port is reachable sometimes in server browser. Sometimes not. Right now not. Weird i know
By Console do you mean the VB screen, HASS boots fine. NO error whatsoever in startup. here is screenshothttps://i.postimg.cc/8CBP4xyb/Clipboard032323232323.jpg
Pinging ping 10.0.2.15 -t from commandline in server itself (which is running VB), is timed out . its a windows server

[torn furnace]

Anyone here running on Buster and installed python-openzwave with success ?

[humble mirage]

You shouldn't need that for Z-Wave JS

[humble mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/pings-off-reply-pings-off-reply-ping-discord-reply-ping-gif-22087396

[stuck burrow]

I have a lot of Kasa light switches in the house, is there a way batch load all the IP's of these devices. It's very painful to load them one by one.

[humble mirage]

#integrations-archived can help with integrations

[stuck burrow]

thanks for the pointer.. 🙂

[teal rapids]

Home Assistant OS

[humble mirage]

No Compose files for you, or manipulating Docker

[final kayak]

ok. any suggestions?

[abstract hearth]

@last ermine posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/gurozafugi

[last ermine]

ok so im trying to install the homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor docker container on an ubuntu server. but it keeps bootlooping with the error on the hastebin above

[brisk willow]

You can't just install the Supervisor container and have it work

[last ermine]

ok, is there a way to get the addon store into the homeassistant/home-assistant container?

[brisk willow]

No, but add-ons are just pieces of software you can otherwise install yourself

[last ermine]

okay, thank you

[teal rapids]

I suppose I should just switch back to the built in recorder db then 😞

[dusk parcel]

I’m trying to set up HA OS on an old laptop, and it seems to have booted fine from the drive I added the files to with the etcher program, but I can’t connect to it from anywhere on my network, and when I look in the HA CLI network info it looks like it’s all disabled? Under interfaces: the connected and enabled are both : false for the Ethernet and WiFi devices

My router doesn’t see anything plugged in to it either on that wifi spot

Err Ethernet port

Oh snap updating that interface made it say connected and enabled, but my method is still disabled with blank info for address and name server and null for gateway

[bitter hornet]

Thanks to everyone that replied and/or contacted me. 👍

• I've now found what the problem was.

REF:
"Unable to check for updates"
"You do not have any integrations that provide updates."

[slim orchid]

Hello, my time in HA is wrong after I move to docker. In .env file I have wright timezone: Europe/ Warsaw but in development-template time is wrong. {{ now().time() }}

In HA card with clock I have wright time. How to fix this?

[tough pendant]

Maybe I'm wrong or stupid, but what is the best way to edit configuration.yaml with a home assistant helm deployment?

[upbeat wharf]

Hello, I moved to docker and want to upload a backup from my old system. How does this work? The backup is saved on my Laptop (.tar)

[dawn flame]

Was your old system "supervised"?

[upbeat wharf]

Yes, my old system was HomeAssistant OS on the same Raspberry Pi 4

[dawn flame]

Then I believe you're going to have to undo the archive file and move the configuration manually to the new instance. Not sure exactly what will transfer over, but I believe the main configuration will. In the future, you just back up the entire config file. There is no "snapshot" feature in container..... Much better off though.

[upbeat wharf]

Okay and how do I move the files from my laptop to the docker container ?

[dawn flame]

Well, the files don't go in the container to begin with. They go in the configuration folder that you mapped as part of setting up the container.

[dawn flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reg1Hf0eKTU - This may help...

[honest geode]

[HA OS][RPi3]
Is there a better method of completely starting over than straight up reinstalling to the SD card?

[crude inlet]

You can delete everything in /config including hidden directories and restart HA

@honest geode

[primal nimbus]

Hi guys there is something I don't understand if you can help me to figure out why I can't install any community add-on ?

It's a fresh install of homeAssistant (Vm based)

[grand pivot]

what is happening?

"can't" doesn't tell us much

[jagged sleet]

Could someone help me change the date/time on my raspberry pi with hassos?

[grand pivot]

it expects to be able to contact an NTP server

[jagged sleet]

Yeah, my pi has internet. but its reading the wrong time

[grand pivot]

the wrong time zone, or completely the wrong time?

[jagged sleet]

hm, im not sure about the timezone, it says UTC, however it is 5 hours off. The appdaemon time is worse, but one problem at a time, lol

[grand pivot]

then you should be able to set the proper timezone in -> Settings -> General

[jagged sleet]

yeah thats the thing, i have that set right. Automations set up from the UI have the correct timing, but my hassio logs and appdaemon automations are all on different times

Okay, i figured out the issue with appdaemon. The appdaemon.yaml file needs to be edited with the proper timezone

[primal nimbus]

sure, let's say I want to install visual studio code, if I'm following this link to install it : https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/supervisor_addon/?addon=a0d7b954_vscode

here is what I get :
Add-on not found

when I'm going to admin addon page I don't have all community addons

[grand pivot]

the follow the instructions here: https://addons.community/

[primal nimbus]

yes I already read it, it says :
"In general, there is no need to install this repository on your Home Assistant instance. It is activated and added by Home Assistant by default."

[grand pivot]

but...

there's more

[primal nimbus]

yeah I also read it 🙂

[grand pivot]

and did it solve your problem?

[primal nimbus]

not sure I'm following the good stuf, I added the git repository plugin

started it, added the following config :

"""

"""
interval: 300
repository: https://github.com/hassio-addons/repository.git
restart_ignore:

• ui-lovelace.yaml
• .gitignore
  """

[grand pivot]

did it solve your problem of not being able to install the addon?

[primal nimbus]

no

[grand pivot]

?

[primal nimbus]

official addon are here.. I'm talking of communities add-ons

[grand pivot]

that's what that link is for

I don't know where you're putting the stuff above

it goes here, in the Repositories section:

[primal nimbus]

thanks man that's what I look for

I was putting the repo in the Git pull plugging

[grand pivot]

whoa

yeah, not there

[primal nimbus]

All good now 🙂

thanks man

[ornate stag]

I have a little problem with the new version of HA. The Supervisor no longer appears on the left panel. Do you have any solution to fix this.

the OS is installed on a Raspberry PI 4

[grand pivot]

it moved under several builds ago

[ornate stag]

I know but it's not practical

[grand pivot]

?

[ornate stag]

I liked it better when it was on the panel

[grand pivot]

you can have it back there if you want

https://gist.github.com/balloob/580deaf8c3fc76948559c5963ed4d436

I added that and server controls with this:

panel_custom:                                                                         
  - name: panel-redirect                                                             
    # url_path needs to be unique for each panel_custom config                           
    url_path: redirect-server-controls
    sidebar_title: Server Controls                          
    sidebar_icon: mdi:server           
    module_url: /local/panel-redirect.js              
    config:     
      # Where you want to redirect to
      target: /config/server_control
                         
  - name: panel-redirect 
    url_path: redirect-supervisor
    sidebar_title: Supervisor
    sidebar_icon: mdi:home-assistant
    module_url: /local/panel-redirect.js
    config:                           
      target: /hassio/dashboard

I find that there's rarely a need to go there anyway

[ornate stag]

effectively except in a new installation

[ornate stag]

Tanks Rod

I dont able to update HACS

[upbeat wharf]

Good morning. Yesterday I moved from HAOS to Docker and now im not sure where to find the configuration.yaml file. I have downloaded Visual Studio Code and im connected to the pi, but there are no folders from homeassistant. Do I need to change the username (now: pi) or something like that? Please help me

[grand pivot]

Wherever you told docker your config directory is

[ancient cloud]

Good day. I have home assistant running via docker on a Proxmox VM. In addition to that I have Traefik as a reverse proxy set up working tightly with Cloudflare to ensure external access with SSL (essentially double proxying from Cloudflare to Traefik and from there to my local HA docker instance).

Everything seem to be working fine although I am getting a rather worrying message in the logs:

Logger: homeassistant.components.websocket_api.http.connection
Source: components/websocket_api/http.py:254
Integration: Home Assistant WebSocket API (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 10:31:23 AM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 10:31:23 AM

[139663494498720] Disconnected: Did not receive auth message within 10 seconds

This only once and very rarely after a reboot. I know the websocket API is a big thing for many HA features. Is there a proper way that I can debug this further?

[covert pilot]

danol@server:~/docker/homeAssistant$ sudo lsof -i :8123
COMMAND  PID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
python3 1583 root   14u  IPv4  35356      0t0  TCP *:8123 (LISTEN)
python3 1583 root   17u  IPv6  35358      0t0  TCP *:8123 (LISTEN)
danol@server:~/docker/homeAssistant$ ps -aux | grep 1583
root        1583  3.7  3.9 269920 156260 ?       Ssl  11:15   0:23 python3 -m homeassistant --config /config
danol       2973  0.0  0.0   6432   660 pts/0    S+   11:25   0:00 grep --color=auto 1583
danol@server:~/docker/homeAssistant$ sudo docker ps
CONTAINER ID   IMAGE     COMMAND   CREATED   STATUS    PORTS     NAMES
danol@server:~/docker/homeAssistant$

Yo, does anyone know what is happening (^^)? I have the home assistant installed as a docker container, but it seems like it's trying to run twice, there is something taking up the port 8123 even when I shut down the container

[humble mirage]

You have Python running, presumably in a Python venv

[covert pilot]

That python is python3 -m homeassistant --config /config

[humble mirage]

Yes

[covert pilot]

I have no idea how this happened

[humble mirage]

Check docker ps -a

[covert pilot]

Empty

[humble mirage]

sudo ps -efl|grep 1583

[covert pilot]

(I have shut down the container before all this)

4 S root        1583    1580  2  80   0 - 67480 futex_ 11:15 ?        00:00:24 python3 -m homeassistant --config /config
0 S danol       3017    2688  0  80   0 -  1575 pipe_w 11:29 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto 1583

[humble mirage]

ps -efl|grep 1580

[covert pilot]

4 S root        1580    1361  0  80   0 -    49 poll_s 11:15 ?        00:00:00 s6-supervise home-assistant
4 S root        1583    1580  2  80   0 - 67480 futex_ 11:15 ?        00:00:24 python3 -m homeassistant --config /config
0 S danol       3020    2688  0  80   0 -  1575 pipe_w 11:30 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto 1580

[abstract hearth]

To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks. Here's an example

Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

For over 15 lines you must use a code share site such as https://dpaste.org/ (pick YAML for the language), https://www.codepile.net/ (pick YAML for the language), or https://paste.debian.net/ (pick YAML for the language).

Command '~format' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

Ok, so, looks like your Docker is borked

[covert pilot]

:D

[humble mirage]

Reboot

[covert pilot]

I've just booted it

This has happened to me multiple times already

it's a fresh Ubuntu Server install, just installed it yesterday

[humble mirage]

Try Debian Server instead

Ubuntu sometimes makes some poor choices

[covert pilot]

Hah

okay

I'll reinstall today evening

I thought the containers are designed in such a way that this should never happen

[humble mirage]

It shouldn't, unless there's something screwed up with your host

[covert pilot]

Well, thank you for your time :)

[undone sentinel]

Hey on the home page of home-assistant.io it says the current version is 2022.4.5 so i updated my image on docker en restart server but still says it only updated to 2022.3.3 when can we expect the new version to hit the docker community ?

[humble mirage]

How are you updating?

2022.4.5 Docker images were released 4 days ago

[undone sentinel]

i use powershell with ssh conection pull new image en restart container

[humble mirage]

That doesn't tell us what you're doing

What exact command are you running?

How are you restarting the container?

[undone sentinel]

docker pull homeassistant/home-assistant:latest

then

docker restart f3d1ff8fcca3

that's all i do

workt in the past

when i run the pull command again it says
Status: Image is up to date for homeassistant/ho
docker.io/homeassistant/home-assistant:latest

[humble mirage]

latest

You should be pulling :stable - that's what the docs have said for the last many years

[undone sentinel]

ah okay my bad did not know

[humble mirage]

Then you clearly never read the official docs

Which is why your update is failing

https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/container/#update

Compose files will make your life easier

Until then, stop the old container, remove it, start a new one

[undone sentinel]

it's how they learned me to update my minecraft server on docker i assumed that it was the same for all

-v /docker/Home-Assitant/Config:/config \

doe this look correct ? or is it without the first / ?

[humble mirage]

What's the whole command line?

[undone sentinel]

docker run -d
--name homeassistant
--restart=unless-stopped
--privileged
-e TZ=Europe/Brussels
-v /docker/Home-Assitant/Config:/config
--network=host
ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable

[humble mirage]

So, that looks broadly fine

It's still not a Compose file, but ... baby steps

[undone sentinel]

ill get there i hope 🙂

think i broke it now when i go to 192.168.0.100:8123 it says Page not found and the container is up and running

[humble mirage]

Check the log file?

[undone sentinel]

it does not produce a error it just says in the logs Start container homeassistant. no errormessage

[abstract hearth]

If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

• Check the troubleshooting steps
• Check your log file - remembering you may need to set logger to info or debug
• Explain what the problem you're having is - sharing configuration, errors, and logs

Command '~troubleshooting' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[undone sentinel]

think i found it

just need to change my configuration file

had some generic camera streams in there deleted those lines of codes

it says it's running now but stil now responce on 192.168.0.100:8123

home-assistant.log also does not show any errors

i was using Docker Hub register one and not the ghcr.io one could that cause the problem ?

[humble mirage]

No

[undone sentinel]

found it 🙂

my installation was on his own network and not the network of the docker container that fixed it right up 🙂

no i have version 2022.4.5 🙂

Thanks for the help 🙂

[cyan mist]

Hi, I installed HA on my QNAP using docker. It seems to have installed ok, I can get to the overview page, but I don't see a way to add integrations

[humble mirage]

Integrations are set up following the instructions in the docs for each one

Assuming that you have 2022.4.x installed

Add-ons are a whole other thing, if you're thinking of those

[cyan mist]

I installed using Container Station. It says image home-assistant:0.65.5

[humble mirage]

[brazen herald]

Read the docs and follow the installation guides there.

[humble mirage]

March 2018...

[brazen herald]

Then you'll have something from this decade as a starter 😛

[humble mirage]

Gotta thank QNAP for being so inept

[cyan mist]

I followed the instructions here: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative#qnap-nas

woops

here: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative#qnap-nas

[humble mirage]

Sadly QNAP haven't updated their system in 4 years

[cyan mist]

Can you point me to a newer build that works in docker?

[humble mirage]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#install-home-assistant-container

Or if your NAS supports VMs, use a VM

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#install-home-assistant-operating-system

[cyan mist]

Thank you

[upbeat wharf]

https://dev.to/elalemanyo/how-to-install-docker-and-docker-compose-on-raspberry-pi-1mo I used this guide. Can't find a path

[humble mirage]

Did you create a compose file?

If so, use a code share site to share it

[upbeat wharf]

No, do i need this

[stoic quest]

Hi. Complete noob here. Insteon died. Trying to get my first Raspberry Pi up and running Home Assistant. Got stuck trying to install balena etcher. Followed the link to github for the Debian installation. I copied and pasted the two strings into terminal. The first one seemed to work. The second came back with E: Unable to locate package balena-etcher-electron" in the last line, I am stuck. Does this make any sense to any of you?

[humble mirage]

You don't - but it would make your life easierr

[upbeat wharf]

Ok. I tried it 2 h ago and it didn't work but I will try again

[humble mirage]

For a start, you'd know where you mapped the config folder to 😄

[upbeat wharf]

Thank you so far, sorry for my missing knowledge

[humble mirage]

Everybody starts at zero

See #installation-archived message for finding out what, if anything, you've done so far

[upbeat wharf]

[] I get this response

[humble mirage]

Then you didn't map any volume

You have no config folder, outside of what's inside the container

Hopefully you've not done much with it yet?

[upbeat wharf]

Yes, thats what I thought of

[humble mirage]

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#install-home-assistant-container

[upbeat wharf]

No, just installed Portainer and HomeAssistant but that wasnt much work

I followed this guide, maybe I left something

[humble mirage]

Well, you followed a guide other than HA's guide

You should create a compose file, and use that, rather than relying on the command line

[upbeat wharf]

Ok, so just copy the code from the homeassistant website

[grand pivot]

changing paths as appropriate so that you don't end up with /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG as your config dir

[upbeat wharf]

I don't get /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG. Do I have to create a folder in Visual Studio Code and copy this path in ?

[upbeat wharf]

Ah thanks

[humble mirage]

You make a folder, somewhere, and use that instead

I'd recommend you put everything under `/docker

/docker - compose file lives here
/docker/homeassistant - your HA config folder

Then you can easily back it all up

[upbeat wharf]

What does somewhere mean? on the raspberry pi?

[humble mirage]

Yes, the computer running Docker

[upbeat wharf]

Ah okay

[upbeat wharf]

So i followed the instruction from you and the HomeAssistant guide, but im getting an error if i send this command: version: '3'
services:
homeassistant:
container_name: homeassistant
image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable"
volumes:
- /home/Konsti/docker/hass/config
- /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
restart: unless-stopped
privileged: true
network_mode: host

It says: -bash ... command not found

How can I send pictures in here?

[abstract hearth]

To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks. Here's an example

Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

For over 15 lines you must use a code share site such as https://dpaste.org/ (pick YAML for the language), https://www.codepile.net/ (pick YAML for the language), or https://paste.debian.net/ (pick YAML for the language).

Command '~format' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

Image posting is blocked to stop people posting text as images

That however is a file, you create the file, and you need to have docker-compose installed

[upbeat wharf]

docker-compose --version
This command gives me an answer. Does this mean docker compose is installed correctly? It says: docker-compose version 1.29.2, build unknown

[humble mirage]

Now try your docker-compose up -d command, in the folder with the compose file

[upbeat wharf]

ERROR: Can't find a suitable configuration file in this directory ...

[humble mirage]

Then you don't have docker-compose.yml file in the folder

[upbeat wharf]

And the docker-compose.yml file is created by this command, right?

services:
  homeassistant:
    container_name: homeassistant
    image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable"
    volumes:
      - /home/Konsti/docker/hass/config
      - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
    restart: unless-stopped
    privileged: true
    network_mode: host```

[humble mirage]

That's not a command

That's the contents of a file

[upbeat wharf]

Ahh

[humble mirage]

That is your compose file

[upbeat wharf]

Ohh

Okay, hold on a second please

Okay, I think I got it. I used this command docker-compose up -d and it says Creating homeassistant ... done

[humble mirage]

Oh, I spotted another typo in your compose file

version: '3'
services:
  homeassistant:
    container_name: homeassistant
    image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable"
    volumes:
      - /home/Konsti/docker/hass:/config
      - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
    restart: unless-stopped
    privileged: true
    network_mode: host

You were missing a : in the /config map

Change that and then run

docker-compose stop homeassistant
docker-compose rm homeassistant
docker-compose up -d

[upbeat wharf]

Did it. Am I finished?

[humble mirage]

See if HA is running and if you've got configuration.yaml appearing in /home/Konsti/docker/hass?

[upbeat wharf]

YES!!!

[humble mirage]

Now configure backups

[steel sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usfiAsWR4qU&t=7s

[upbeat wharf]

Yes, Hallelujah

That was difficult

[upbeat wharf]

Ok, thank you. I will try to use your blog and yt tutorials this time

Really, thank you very much for your help. Im very happy that it works

[abstract hearth]

@sinful oak posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/ujubeqoriy

[sinful oak]

I'm trying to run HASS on docker in OpenWRT (hardware is NanoPi R4S). I was able to install it but I am having trouble seeing my USB Z-wave dongle... as I troubleshoot I think maybe OpenWRT has missing drivers? does this look right... https://hastebin.com/ujubeqoriy

the reason I ask is because although in OpenWRT "lsusb" shows the device; there is no /dev/ttyUSB** instance... and the lsusb -t shows a missing driver

[humble mirage]

Sounds like it's missing support for USB Serial

A quick Google suggests

sudo modprobe ftdi_sio

[sinful oak]

does "dev/ttyACMx" sound familiar? Looks like I need to compile the OpenWRT kernel with this https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/hardware/usb_gadget?s[]=kmod&s[]=usb#g_serial_-_serial_device_gadget

root@r4s-prod:~# modprobe ftdi_sio failed to find a module named ftdi_sio

[humble mirage]

Depends entirely on your stick how it appears

Some appear as ttyACMx some as ttyUSBx

Both should ideally appear under /dev/serial/by-id/

[sinful oak]

root@r4s-prod:~# ls /dev/s shm/ snd/
no serial folder

thanks this points me to the right direction. I will try to compile a new build for it

[humble mirage]

Possibly because it's such a cut down OS

[sinful oak]

You are right 🙂
I think without the kernel driver there's no /dev/serial/ path created

[weary jay]

hello! does anyone know how to fix that the duckdns IP does not match the actual public IP of my computer and hence I can't access HA remotely? thank you

[humble mirage]

What are the first two sets of numbers of the WAN IP shown on your modem's admin page?

[weary jay]

201.152

[humble mirage]

Ok, so not CGNAT then, that's good

Do you get the same numbers when you visit http://checkip.dyndns.org/?

[weary jay]

I get a different one

Current IP Address: 201.147.x.x

[humble mirage]

Then that sounds like time to phone your ISP

[weary jay]

I see... what should I tell them? LOL

not sure what to ask for

[humble mirage]

Well, find out what they're doing. Explain that the WAN IP shown in your router's admin page is different to what you get when you visit the various IP check sites (do test a few more)

Possibly they're doing some form of NATting, possibly they've got a transparent proxy in play

[weary jay]

ok... thank you for the tip! I will call them to see if they can help fix the issue +

[torn mortar]

Migrated my qcow2 image from proxmox to an unraid vm. HA is restarting itself every few mins.

[humble mirage]

Home Assistant, or the whole VM?

[torn mortar]

Seems. To be just ha

Way to quick to be the vm.

Watchdog said if found an issue

[humble mirage]

Did you do a fresh install of the VM image and then restore a backup, or ?

[torn mortar]

No.

Just tried to copy the image over.

Hoping it would be as easy as that.

I made a full backup juat in case before copying it over.

Is that a bad way to do it?

22-04-20 14:49:00 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Detect a running Home Assistant instance 22-04-20 14:51:00 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.misc.tasks] Watchdog found a problem with Home Assistant Docker! 22-04-20 14:51:00 INFO (SyncWorker_4) [supervisor.docker.interface] Starting homeassistant

[humble mirage]

I'd take a backup, spin up a fresh VM with a fresh image, and then restore

[torn mortar]

Okay fair enough il report back when I get a sec to redo it

[radiant wind]

How do I find my Insteon IP address if the service is down?

I don't see it on my hubs list of devices

Trying to add the integration to my new home assistant setup

[humble mirage]

Tools like fing can help there

[radiant wind]

Nice! Found it

Now getting a failed to connect

Any suggestion?

Using credentials on back of hub for login

[radiant wind]

Resolved, was case related

[torn mortar]

Only thing not working is the Logitech media server addon. Doesn't want to start due to perm issues

Spun up the lms container on unraid and its fine. The addon worked fine before so not sure. Created an issue on Github

[humble mirage]

#add-ons-archived can help with add-ons

[torn mortar]

👍

[raw hedge]

Are there any issues if HA’s ip changes from time to time?

[ruby harbor]

hi guys i have issue with the HA , i connected the raspberry pi to router w ethernet cable but it wont load .

but when i config the file to sd card to connect to wifi then it will work

[upbeat wharf]

Good morning, sorry to say that there is another problem coming up. After the installation - with the help from you yesterday (thank you) - I cant edit my configuration.yaml in Visual Studio Code (Permission denied) and in the Terminal (read only)

[humble mirage]

Posssibly. If that runs anything like an MQTT broker then your other devices will lose the connection to the broker. Best to give it a static DHCP lease.

[humble mirage]

That's because the files are owned by root and you're not trying to edit them as root

Assuming you're running as the user Konsti which is in the group humans try the following:

chgrp humans /home/Konsti/docker/hass/*
chmod g+rw /home/Konsti/docker/hass /home/Konsti/docker/hass/*

You can find out the groups your user belongs to with

id Konsti

[slim ridge]

hi, io just installed hassio in hyper-v and tried to restore a snapshot from raspberry pi, everything loads well but no web interface. and am using http. what can i do ? tried repairing the supervisor from the cli. didnt help.

[humble mirage]

Did your previous install use HTTPS or HTTP?

[slim ridge]

haven't tempered with https... still stock

[humble mirage]

Did you have either the Samba or SSH add-ons ?

[slim ridge]

yes..

do i have to uninstall them and snapshot again ?