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yeah I am doing it rn, I will let you know
@ember basin When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.
You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).
Don't let me know, just update the channel if you need help
oh ok sorry I will
Personally I think you're taking the wrong approach here
I might yeah
But hey, lots of people want to make life hard for themselves
sadly running on a phone is one of my only choices (can't run it on other PCs)
Full logs about maturin error here: https://paste.gloriouseggroll.tv/?4df54ec0906293be#CxxuBEaRDqJez8mjoTcaTCHLxCGGpMmw49qP2c8Kfvtg
mmhmm true, I know that some users have managed to run it
I will look into it better
thanks
If I have crash problems on a os installation, would a docker installation be better?
hello
how can i install hass to a rasberry pi which has pi hole allready set up
will they work together?
- Use the native Docker (aka Container) install
- Flash HAOS and use the AdGuard #add-ons-archived instead
Take your pick
docker is like two differant ips on same device right?
i only want to add wifi controlled to openrgb so i can do light sync
so what do you recomend
Docker means no changes to anything else on the Pi
HAOS means everything changes
Docker is probably the way to go, but it's entirely up to you
looking at my end objective will it even work for a start?
(also depends on whether HA can do the light sync you want, it's not really for music level light syncing)
Not using any of the things you mentioned I don't know the answer, but Docker is easy to remove if it doesn't work
ok then i will try docker
i have ssh to the pi will it work that way or i have to do something physically with pi?
SSH is all you need
thanks
Also install Compose, then follow https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#docker-compose for HA
Or be lazy and run the install script: https://get.docker.com/
i am a noob at this i even forgot whether i have 32 or 64 bit pi os
Pi3 or older will probably be 32
hey do you know hass integration with openrgb?
No. Best to just ask and wait for someone to answer rather than tag people.
oh sry
Or Google
its 3
home assistant openrgb
yea i did but my use case is very weird
so cant find anything
Well... you're over thinking
yep
- Can HA integrate with it?
yes openrgb has ha integration
if yes then move to the question of whether you can get the light sync you want
And you haven't explained that at all
openrgb is an opensource software to controll rgb devices of a pc
i dont have pc compatible lights
but i do have google home compatable lights
so in a around about way i am trying too add these lights to openrgb
Google Home compatible doesn't mean HA compatible
But still what are you trying to achieve here?
ummmm
i have dumb 12 v lights
i have added wifi controller to them
i can controll them through moble app
but now i want to control through pc
using the software openrgb
HA's OpenRGB integration is for HA to talk to OpenRGB, not the other way
You may be able to sync the lights with the settings from OpenRGB, as long as the changes aren't fast and the integration is push not poll
if it uses polling then it's going to be painful
If someone has an error similar to mine you need to follow those steps
1 install rust with pkg
2 execute this cargo install --locked maturin
3 then install maturin with pip
Is it a good idea to install HAOS on my synology nas?
If the NAS can run VMs then sure
yep there's a built in VM app
how much storage would u recommend?
The docs say minimum 32 GB
whaa
Depending on what you want to do that's either plenty, or nowhere near enough
You do realise there's an OS, software, and data to fit in that 32 GB 😉
well it's not gonna be a huge system we mostly have knx in our home anyway which is running on Gira so there would be some devices like cameras in there
yeah if u think about it
yeah I think 32 gigs is enough, we've got like a terabyte on the nas and SSDs aren't that expensive
700 gigs available lmao
thank you :)
hi :)
I have a headless box in the attic running haos who seam to work since some automation do run, but the webui don't
➜ ~ curl 192.168.1.58:8123
curl: (52) Empty reply from server
Before i carry a display and everything up there, any idea of what could cause this ?
Do you have SSH access?
Or Samba?
Basically, some other way of getting to the logs
no, both addon don't start at boot i believe.
➜ ~ nmap 192.168.1.58 -p 1000-9000
Starting Nmap 7.94 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2024-04-02 21:18 CEST
Nmap scan report for homeassistant.gdkprod.com (192.168.1.58)
Host is up (0.00019s latency).
Not shown: 7995 closed tcp ports (conn-refused)
PORT STATE SERVICE
4357/tcp open qsnet-cond
5355/tcp open llmnr
8086/tcp open d-s-n
8123/tcp open polipo
8883/tcp open secure-mqtt
8884/tcp open unknown
this thing is suposed to have intel vpro, but i never managed to have the remote display working ><
home assistant observer is all green but i don't think i can do anything on that page
When you get it working again you should troubleshoot why those add-ons don't start on boot
Try a lower port. SSH runs on 22.
yea, but ssh port 22 need me to create a file with a usb key and all ... didn't do that either
No. That would be for port 22222 developer/host SSH.
oh, my bad
Though SSH with a key is better than SSH with a password
yea, port 22 does run ... but i didn't set it up so i have no idea what key it use.
i usealy connect to port 2200
that is suposed to be the open ssh addon, maybe i do have something up Oo
But unlike the other ssh addon this one don't seam to use the hassio usename ?
darn, it use root, and i have acces :D
thank you
i'll move to "ha os" thread if i find it to ask for how to perform a reset of the instance but no the addon
@steady stirrup I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:
But Supervised is not recommended
Either HAOS (on bare metal or as a VM) or a Container install.
So a friend sent me this website (https://i12bretro.github.io/tutorials/0670.html) but at the last step I got this error do you know what the problem is?
@steady stirrup I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:
this is now on Debain 12
The problem is the tutorial recommending Supervised
okay
[warn] If you want more control over your own system, run
[warn] Home Assistant as a VM or run Home Assistant Core
[warn] via a Docker container.
After a quick rm of all config, and an update, i got ha back :)
That's good, it's an old backup and i need to migrate the new one on it
Thank's for the help
Additionally the requirements are still not met.
Okay, I managed it after all
I just installed this
homeassistant-supervised depends on systemd-journal-remote; however:
Package systemd-journal-remote is not installed.
homeassistant-supervised depends on nfs-common; however:
Package nfs-common is not installed.
homeassistant-supervised depends on cifs-utils; however:
Package cifs-utils is not installed.
Forget that installation method. It causes more trouble, than it does good.
If you insist on using Debian (I assume on a x86), you should do this:
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64#install-home-assistant-container
You wouldn't get the options to install add-ons or to update via the UI though
Hiya folks! Trying to get Haos running on KVM using virt-install on my Ubuntu server running 22.04.4; swtpm keeps failing, and I am clueless as to what to do next... Any ideas?
What's the error/message about swtpm?
Starting vTPM manufacturing as swtpm:swtpm @ Tue 02 Apr 2024 09:42:36 PM CEST
swtpm process terminated unexpectedly.
Could not start the TPM 2.
An error occurred. Authoring the TPM state failed.
Ending vTPM manufacturing @ Tue 02 Apr 2024 09:42:36 PM CEST
Google suggests TPM support is a setting you can change
You can also install a TPM emulator apparently
WARNING Using --osinfo generic, VM performance may suffer. Specify an accurate OS for optimal results.
Starting install...
ERROR internal error: Could not run '/usr/bin/swtpm_setup'. exitstatus: 1; Check error log '/var/log/swtpm/libvirt/qemu/hass-swtpm.log' for details.
Domain installation does not appear to have been successful.
If it was, you can restart your domain by running:
virsh --connect qemu:///system start hass
otherwise, please restart your installation.
my understanding is that that would happen while executing the install here, as it appears to try running the swtpm_setup
I'd check the log it mentions
I have never used swtpm before, and there is no guide / doc on the HA installation on how to get TPM emulation up and running (or I am blind)
Check too that it's installed
Well, the problem is that the HA docs don't cover the host OS for VMs, since that part isn't HA specific
that was the content I posted before, the log states
Starting vTPM manufacturing as swtpm:swtpm @ Tue 02 Apr 2024 09:42:36 PM CEST
swtpm process terminated unexpectedly.
Could not start the TPM 2.
An error occurred. Authoring the TPM state failed.
Ending vTPM manufacturing @ Tue 02 Apr 2024 09:42:36 PM CEST
So you can find any generic Ubuntu guide for TPM and virt-install
@gray bone When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.
You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).
thx, will try to find my luck there
Hi,
I've just cloned my RPi3 sd card to a new sd card (with windisk32imager).
But now when starting on the new sd card, I get stuck at "Waiting for the Home Assistant CLI to be ready..."
You put it in another or the same Pi3?
Same RPi3
Then something went wrong with the clone
Can you show a picture of what you see?
Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.
Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.
Before I had a timeout
This is rolling fast but :
https://i.imgur.com/kCxAhT8.png
A lot of people get confused by that message because it stays there even after the CLI has been started so I wanted to make sure.
If the CLI doesn't start within 60s it should put you into a emergency console (just ash) from where you can investigate with things like docker logs hassio_cli, docker logs hassio_supervisor, journalctl -u hassos-supervisor, journalctl -xeb.
And then I can briefly see the timeout encountered :
https://i.imgur.com/q2sRZqT.png
https://i.imgur.com/IV1cMGx.png
Personally I would just try a new clone since those hassos-data related messages don't look great.
You can check with lsblk -o+LABEL,FSTYPE,MODEL if the partititon labeled hassos-data is even there. Something tells me the errors would look different it it weren't though.
Starting new .img clone, will see
You can also check the SD Card's partitions on windows with something like MiniTool Partition Wizard, Macorit Disk Partition Expert or NIUBI Partition Editor.
Reading done, img has same size yet
On average, how long does it take for HA Core to update? I feel like I've been waiting 10+ min.
Depends on your hardware and install method (HAOS, Container, pip install, etc)
Somewhere from a few seconds to a few days
Lol, running a pi 3 I believe.
So... that should be in the "few minutes" depending on your install method
HAOS seems to take longer for some reason, Container is pretty obvious, and Core more so
It finally finished. I guess I'm just impatient. -_-
How to connect an sp530e controller to home assistant
hi! is possible to have some help here for a crashed HA?
@vocal musk yes it is possible. You'll need to describe what kind of access you have and find the logs
wow thanks!
I have ssh
I noticed this
INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.auth] Home Assistant not running, checking cache
ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.api] Error on call http://172.30.32.1:8123/api/core/state: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer
ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.api] Error on call http://172.30.32.1:8123/api/core/state: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer
ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Home Assistant has crashed!
It was working before
It was working before making some change?
Have you started with a full reboot of whatever HA is running on?
Yes, it’s ha os
On a nuc
Tried to reboot nuc and router with no luck
This might help
@vocal musk I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:
Hello!
I recently moved to another house and with the new network, the IP-range changed.
It seems that i cannot find where to change the ip-address.
Home Assistans is running on a NUC with Proxmox. I can acces my HA with homeassistant.local
Worked. Instead of using windisk32imager to read/write an image.
I used balenaEtcher to read/write directly from old to new sd card
Open your Home Assistant instance and manage your systems network configuration
This should be it 👆. Otherwise go into System > Network
It was set to automatic, so it was already working. But i had plugged it in my laptop and not in my router...
2 days without HA, Home is like 50% functional, my wife is in boss mode. please help 🙂
You need to say more than that for anybody to be able to help you...
2 days without HA, Home is like 50%
I am trying to migrate from Home Assistant Docker, to x86 HAOS. I downloaded the backup tar file, and am now attempting to upload it. but it reports that the tar file is not a tar file. Any suggestions?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/682469683403948056/1225293406478012508/image.png?ex=66209a68&is=660e2568&hm=3d9947c4862d0d7f995c48898d2b811a6cac99a928916232762423e0536bacc7&
Try if it happens in a different browser as well.
i guess i shouild have tried that. Works!, I guess Home Assistant hates firefox?
Perhaps. It's been a while since I checked the github issues about this but I remember that a switch in browsers fixed it for some.
Here's two related issues
- https://github.com/home-assistant/frontend/issues/12895
- https://github.com/home-assistant/frontend/issues/7258
I believe the one I was remembering had more comments but I can't find it right now.
yup, known but likely not going to be fixed any time soon
When installing HA on a Pi. How much data will be written to the SD card on the long run when you move storage within ha settings to an actual ssd?
Good to know, thanks :). I usually move the entire OS to the SSD. Not sure if I should do the same with HA, or just migrate to the SSD from the settings.
I'd move the whole thing, but that'd require a re-install and restoring a backup
👍 Last time I did so from my other pi, the backup was still "restoring", which I let it for over 24 hours. No progress bar (couldn't call the progress command without a screen), so had to cancel it.
Would be nice if there was some kind of progress bar though.
is it ok to upgrade to 2024.4 while in safe mode? it's not doing the update, just restarting back to 2024.3.x every time i try it
No. You should fix the issue causing the reverting first.
Dude... the reply was very clearly not for you
🫠
Your question was in the right channel, because vibration sensors have nothing to do with installing HA
Sorry i’ll see myself out
HI, Im new to this server 🙂 can someone please help me with my HA? i have hassos installed as a vm in unraid but the last update (2024.4.0) i cant get it started anymore, im not able to reach it from ip:8123. cli is starting and observer is all good. i ofcourse managed to screw up my backups when moving over to my new server and the share got deleted/ turned off :/ . Trying in here as this might be the right channel
I've installed the general x86 image on a nuc and find that the os doesn't respond to the physical power button on the case being pressed by shutting down, is this something which can be configured?
Hey everyone! I hope I'm writing in the right channel, I wanted to ask to some good souls in here for some help. I have changed my router at home, my home assistant is in a rpi, wired to the last router and wired to the new one as well. In the previous router, the IP was static and it was 192.168.0... on the new router I can still assign a static IP but it can only be 192.168.68.... I have duckdns with https configured on my ha, but I can't access it after restarting it and port forwarding the 8123 port on tcp and udp and 443 on tcp. What could I do to get back the home assistant once again? 🙏
One way (likely the easiest one) would be to access the PI with a display and keyboard and set it to use DHCP (temporarily)
Hi Jorg! Sorry, how do I set the DHCP from the pi? I didn't mention that I'm very new to ha 😅
You connect a display and a keyboard to your Pi and run network info.
There should be something like interface: end0 - you need the part behind interface (here end0).
Next command would be
network update end0 --ipv4-method auto --ipv6-method auto
(replace end0 by the thing, you found earlier).
If you connect the Pi to the new router, you should get an IP address via DHCP now.
Via the UI you can set the new settings as you like later.
Thank you Impact and Jorg! Hmm from network info I can see that, for this interface, both methods are set to auto already, in ipv4 and IPv6. Do I still have to run the update command?
It doesn't harm, but shouldn't be necessary
Did you set the old IP address in your router via address reservation?
In the old router I could set up the address of the pi to 192.168.0... but in the new router I can only set it to 192.168.68... so I can't set it to the same IP address
Yes, but where have you set the IP address for the Pi. In your router or in HA?
Oh sorry, I have set it to be static in the router, I don't remember to be honest having set the IP address in the HA
If you set it in your router, you can just plug it into the new one
hmm, does this mean that by installing the GEneric x86-64 on a nuc that i've chosen the wrong os image? that would be very confusing given that the screenshots in the guide show a real nuc bios
interesting, i didn't know acpi had a long press capability
Heya i bought a usb webcam. I have debian linux libvirt haos and passing trough the usb isnt reliable with ffmpeg what is a other good way to get the video steam in ha
Unfortunately plugging the pi in the new router won't make the home assistant accessible anymore
Hi guys, anyone ever had an issue with sonoff and mqtt not finding any device at all ?
Does anyone else use a “development” environment for HA? And a “production” environment?
Many people do, what's the question?
Was sent here with my issue:
Hello! I was trying to set a static IP for my Home Assistant server.
First i tried using the default one that pops up when clicking «static» on ipv4. Could not Connect to the IP.
Fair enough i have remote access remotly through the nabu casa service, so i just connect via that and took a reboot. Still not working after reboot, tried looking more into my routers IP range and try to set it to 192.168.68.xxx.
But then i cant connect to it form either IP or through nabu casa. It is still online as i can see it through the router, and the network port on the HA pc is blinking.
I panic and try to restart the HA pc by holding the power button. When i turn it on again it is no longer detected by the router nor is the Ethernet lights blinking.
Now i am really scared that i fucked something up, what should i do?
So i connected a keyboard and monitor. And everything looks fine except it has no internet connection. Is it away i can set the ip back to dynamic to see if that helps?
Have you tried to use the new IP address ( http://<IP>:8123 ) instead of http://homeassistant.local:8123 ?
I do, and my setup is as follows:
Production: Raspberry Pi 3B with HA OS
Development: Raspberry Pi 5 with Docker running the HA OS and ESP Home as separate containers
HAOS can't be run as a container 😉
I am using this image, and it runs pretty good
ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant
That's not HAOS 😉
That's just HA (Core), HAOS is the whole thing with an operating system, add-ons, etc
I tried both, and also the duckdns address but no one works
what does the new router list as the IP?
most likely, you didn't set up port forwarding for your new router to the new IP, duckdns is running and so is your proxy
And is your PC/mobile connected to the new router as well?
Yes my mobile is connected the same wifi, I have opened the ports 8123 tcp/udp and 443 tcp on the home assistant IP address
Have you set up https in your configuration.yaml?
How do you keep in sync? Weekly restore from prod to dev?
I have - Systemd Journal issues with my HA Supervised install. I've had it for a couple of years, but want to clean everything I can. I went through the steps to resolve this and am now at running the installer for HA supervised. Just for planning, will I need to restore HA from a backup after doing this, or will it just update the package, but be able to keep the established data? I have a backup and don't mind restoring, but it will take some time and I just want to plan
Installed home assistance core with dietpi: https://dietpi.com/docs/software/home_automation/#__tabbed_1_3
Trying to access ha's venv, anyone know how?
There's no console for HA
yeah uhm how it's called
venv?
yeah thanks
Google diet pi homeassistant venv
First hit is the DietPi forum telling you where it is
ah
Yes
thanks you once again
I have considered moving to HAOS, but not sure if I can with how I have this computer setup. I have 3 drives, a boot SSD with Debian 11 and HA on it, a 1 TB drive and a 6TB drive. The 1 TB is for video storage from Frigate and the 6TB is used for storage for Plex, backups, and NAS.
Run it in a VM on Debian? What are the benefits over supervised? Still need to maintain the host. Would it add complications being in a VM with i/o inputs or networking? If I could use my drives how I want with HAOS and find a good addon for a NAS I could use HAOS. I moved all other services like plex to the HA addon version.
The VM is less likely to cause trouble than a Supervised abomination
I have configured in the yaml file:
http:
ssl_certificate:
ssl_key:
In that case you have to use https://... instead on http://
I did, but still no luck
Is there any configuration anywhere else by any chance where the old IP address would be stored and needs to be changed to the new one assigned by the new router?
I'm looking at getting a few Fire HD tablets for the front end. I am running POE through my house during renovations for APs and security. Is it recommended to run a POE for tablet front end devices or is a 120v recessed + wifi generally working fine?
Probably ordering a few of these:
https://mbmounts.com/collections/tablet-mounts/products/amazon-fire-tablet-wall-mount
Ah, one other thing. Even if I move the home assistant to the old router, I am still not able to access it through IP address or homeassistant.local, but through duckdns at least I am able to
Then DuckDNS is set to the IP of your old router.
That might be the one actually!! Sorry Jorg, how would I change that on duckdns?
I'm not using DuckDNS
where to get ssl cert from?
From duckdns
if i already have remote access from cloudflair, could i get from cloudflair?
Probably, if they offer that, but ZeroSSL and LetsEncrypt are free
thank you. i'll grab one from ZeroSSL 🙂
Just automate that 😉
do tell 😉
I'm having a problem that says "Dockerd localhost 127.0.0.1 connection refused" and with this error I can't do anything, start or install addons, integrations, anything
And when I restart the machine it tries to connect but it gives another problem "Container connection runtime" and it doesn't start
is that really an HAOS installation?
Yes, I am using the OS as a virtual machine by VirtualBox
I suggest making a backup, getting it out of the VM, and just spinning up another HAOS VM
I used it for a few months and only now did I have this problem
you can also try the commands that I gave you earlier from the VM console
I used the commands, and still can't update the machine or Install an addon
I'll try the backup and see if it solves the problem
do tell 😉
i hope this is the righ channel to ask about tailscale AND ha
tailscale serve 8123
Available within your tailnet:
https://testtest.taild0b6b.ts.net/
|-- proxy http://127.0.0.1:8123
All my other docker run web ui ports are opening fine but HA i get 400: Bad Request when i visit the link.
do we need to do some other work to get this working . I usually use cloudflare tunnel but i was hoping to try tailscale this time
if this is not the right channel, my apologies. please advice the right channel to post this
trying to install on a rpi 3 on a fresh 32gb sd card. installation is stuck with multiple rounds of this error:
[supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retrying in 30sec
[supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2024.4.1
[supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant with tag 2024.4.1.
[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2024.4.1: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2024.4.1/json: Not Found ("No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2024.4.1")
howdy - I've been running HA via docker quite successfully for months. I'm moving everything to a new server and the web UI works great, but the IOS app for HA is not liking something when I add the new server address: "The operation couldn't be complete. No space left on device". I assume it's a file permission though I've matched all the permissions as best I can from the previous install. Is this error thrown by the inability to write to the .db or the a .log file or similar?
I like that there is a "use anyway" option 🙂 Seems to write .logs .db fine though.
flubbed my configuration.yaml and cant get into the web interface. I know what to change back, and have video/kb to the machine, but its not a shell like I expected. Can I nano/vim this file from here?
You can type login to get a full console. Your configuration.yaml should be in /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant
looks like that got me there, but there doesnt seem to be nano, vim or emacs installed to hassio
is there a text editor? cant seem to use apt
vi
vi is definitely one of the choices of all time
looks like I got it going, lets see if I'm successful
yikes, well I got it working but it was my own dumbness
nginx didnt start on boot for some reason and I had a heck of a time getting back in
Good evening folks, I hope everyone had a good day. I got a new AT&T modem 2 weeks ago and I have not been able to get my home assistant back online. I have Decp X55 mesh network so the radios in the AT&T modem are turned off. It says "Could not connect to the server". Error code: NSURLErrorDomain-1004.nPlease help.
Hi. I'm trying to move from my Rpi4 over to a bare-metal x86 install but cannot connect to the management port on the new install, only the observer port. I see many others have come across this, what is the usual fix?
Seems to have something with IPV6 from what I can tell. I can't SSH to the machine and the HASSOS seems so bare that I can't work directly on the machine via CLI
nm - I just reinstalled, looks like the image had issues, new one came up straight away
is it possible to install HAOS on Windows on Wifi?
Possible with virtualbox as a vm but you will be increasing complexity and decreasing stability greatly in ways that won’t have much support.
And bridging WiFi networking isn't really supported, so you'll probably have a bad time
Yeah This needs to be running all the time. Magical bridged WiFi won’t be there for you
Understood thank you for your help!
im using a raspi 5 connected to my monitor
its gone to the page with the pixelated home assistant logo with text
when i put https://homeassistant.local:8123 into my browser it doesnt work
on my wifi router settings it does not come up on the ethernet section
plz help
Please show what ha network info and ha supervisor logs says. Also try the ip rather than .local.
Is it connected via a network cable?

Hi all. I've been using Home Assistant for a while in a vm on a Proxmox machine. I recently decided to move it to a dedicated machine (Apple Mac Mini - dual core 8GB ram and 256GB SSD drive plus a 500GB spinning drive). I ran the Belena Etcher process to put the install onto a USB drive and booted to it. I have moved the data to the 256 GB drive and tried to remove the usb drive but the system crashes. What is still on the usb and how do i move that too? I do not want to keep the USB drive in the machine.
The USB isn't an installer, it's where you installed HAOS
The data disk move moves the data not the OS
Thank makes sense... so i need to reinstall it onto the SSD
If you want to run entirely off of it, yes
Use a site like this as a guide ? https://www.homeautomationguy.io/blog/home-assistant-tips/installing-home-assistant-os-onto-an-intel-nuc-or-other-pc
THanks... I'm organising the usb's now.
Process done. Now restoring the backup. Thanks guys!!
My pi is connected using ethernet
@cobalt wyvern I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:
When I look at the SD with HAOS on it comes up with lots of different drive types and says they need formatting when I click on them.
Hey guys,
I am trying to setup homeassistant with a docker-compose.yaml configuration file and docker-compose. When I open the endpoint in my browser localhost:8123 there is no login popup. I just have a simple image of the text "Home Assistant" centered on the page at the top.
I uploaded my docker-compose.yaml to pastebin.
https://pastebin.com/MugFba9T
If anyone could help me out with docker-compose I'd appreciate it.
Check the container logs
I had an old instance blocking the port, killed it. All good now. thx
Hello. After update today HAOS is showing me:
Unsupported system - virtualization_image
System is unsupported due to virtualization_image. Use the link to learn more and how to fix this.
"Learn more" link opens https://www.home-assistant.io/more-info/unsupported/virtualization_image which is non-existent.
Any tips where should I start looking? Installed as VM in QEMU using generic-x86-64 few months ago, previously with no such warnings.
You are supposed to use the VM images for a VM: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux/#install-home-assistant-operating-system
generic-x86 is for bare-metal installs. Make a backup, download it, reinstall, restore: https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#backups
hi, can anyone help me?
why does fresh installation of home assistant using 32gb sd class 10 card, raspberry pi card formatter tool and rpi3 as target device end up with this error during installation:
ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2024.04.0: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2024.04.0/json: Not Found ("No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2024.04.0")
is the installation media for rpi 3 broken?
Is an ethernet cable plugged in?
Thank you, I apparently missed the instruction step to Download OVA for use on QEMU (I might have skipped on purpose since OVA is vmware-stuff mostly). I used haos_generic-x86-64-11.5.img.xz and wrote content to zvol.
So I assume backup + reinstall from scratch + restore would do the trick?
Yep.
it is plugged in, even switched it to be sure
I'm running a VM on ESXi. My default disk is 98% full. I have 16GB of backups. I setup a backup location that is a NAS using SMB. From the HA Terminal, I rsynced all the files over and left the original ones in the ~/backup location. I have restarted HA and I'm not seeing anything listed in the backup list now? I have restarted HA and even rebooted the OS more than once. I verified that SMB is working and had it create a full backup on the backup page. I see that a new tar file was created on the share, but the backup list in HA is still blank. I have had it list the backups a few time intermittently and it will show the data volume and the shared drive as a source for the files in the list, but eventually everything disappears. Reload on the backup screen context menu doesn't seem to make a difference either.
I'm trying to move everything to the network share instead of local, but don't want to delete the local copies until I know it's good.
Hello - I need to download the haos .img for a rpi4 due to some issues with raspberry pi imager, but I can't locate the image or a .gz. I think it used to be on the Installation page when I did this a few years ago, but seems to have been moved. Does anyone know where I can locate this?
You can find all the files here: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases
And the docs here: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi#install-home-assistant-operating-system
Perfect, thanks!
Evening I upgraded from 2024.4.0 to 2024.4.2 and now HA wont start. Docker logs is showing exec /init: exec format error
During docker pull it was extremely slow, normally takes 2-3 minutes and looking at top it showed some kworker at 100% and when the pull finished about 15 minutes later I couldnt get the new container started or my Pi rebooted. I had to pull the power on it.
Running on RapsPi 4 Bullseye 64bit Kernel 32bit userland.
I just reverted to 2024.4.0 in my docker compose and it starts up fine. So there is defo an issues between 2024.4.0 and 2024.4.2
What exact image are you pulling?
Hii everyone! I really need some help..
My homeassistant instalation won‘t start anymore. I think it did an update(?) and froze.. after restarting, the only thing I see is „(WARN) Home Assistant CLI not starting! Jump into emergency console..“
I have already tried „login“ and other stuff that I found on the forum
My Home Assistant is running inside VirtualBox on a mac mini
And also, when I type in the „ha“ command, the error message „Error response from daemon: Container 910ff3….. is not running“ appears
This is the docker error log
I tried home assistant stable and also tried armhf and both did the same. As I said 2024.4.0 works fine
Should I move this question to the forums? Is this a bug?
Small Q. I formatted my HA and installed HAOS on my pi. I've previously set the recorder to a SQL database, but when I re-added the sql info on the new HA installation, it's not using any of the previous data. Anyway I can solve this?
👍
im not sure if this is the best place for this/these questions, but basically im trying to figure out the best way to access my configuration.yaml. i am using unraid, and used to use a homeassistant core docker container, but rain into issues long ago and actually gave up on HA for a couple years. last night i installed home assistant in a vm and have it running etc... im wanting to set up my schlage camelot zwave locks and googled and found suggestions on redit for using Keymaster. im working through the instructions on their github and its needing me to add some lines to configuration.yaml but im not sure how to access it now that im not longer using it in docker
ah nevermind. buddy suggested studio code server addon
That's quite RAM hungry
If you run it in proxmox, it has a built-in console/terminal
Not really the terminal you want to use for this though.
I got my HA downloaded on a thumbdrive and plugged that into a PC. HA runs. Have command line, have access to the observer URL. I cannot get into my HA at get it set up.
How are you trying to "get" to it?
the ha.local:8123 url, the PCs ip:8123 even tried the 172 IP. have not used it before. rebooted through console, updated the os and network through console. I am not super informative on console, but I been trying to figure out the help meue as well as google. Not much help, just others with the same problem. I have used edge on my PC and phone. Firefox cant find jack on my steamdeck.
Sounds like it's time to check the various logs to see what's going on with the install. Somebody else will have to guide you through that though.
I have been trying to pull up the logs. It supposed to be under info and when I type it out. HA post error.
Out of how many times I start with HA. I have very few installs that haven't been nothing but problems.
Installing HA on a USB stick is not a good idea. You should also show the error you get.
I can't paste that info here. its the usual none connect
homeassistant.local refused to connect
though look at installing it on the nvme.
Not looking at installing Ubuntu just to load HA from what I found online.
Why not? The usual? Try the ip instead.
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I stated that I had already tried IP, IP:8123, HA.local:8123.
Observer is the only thing that works and it says everything is green.
Hello, could someone assist with changing the HACS download folder? It always prompts "When downloaded, this will be located in '/config/www/...'", instead I would like it to automatically use '/opt/homeassistant/www/...'
You don’t install Ubuntu. You run it from the thumb drive as a live os, then you use that to flash the internal drive with ha os. Then you shut down and remove the usb drive (Ubuntu) and boot the pc which now has ha os
You are only using Ubuntu as a tool in those instructions
Imma just use imma try etcher to flash the target drive and that was 1,000 times faster than the usb. Ill throw the new install media in afterwhile
Yeah running from a usb flash drive is going to be terrible
I flashed the nvme and plugged in. It wasnt found
Hello Everyone. I am not somewhat new to HA as I messed with it before. I will install HA on proxmox and I wanted to know whats the best usb dongle the handles zwave/zigbee?
Combined? None. Other than that #zigbee-archived and #zwave-archived can help with recommendations
I figured. So get separate dongle. Ill go to those 2 channels you spoke of.
Hello, I got a Pi4 running home assistant, from a person i do not have contact with anymore. but it is severely outdated (currently its running version 0.118.4) i see no update feature within the UI and i only have minimal knowledge about SSH part of this. i have tried some things i saw with basic google searches but couldnt find anything that worked (snap, ha, docker hassio, all command not found)
any help would be greatly appreciated
(edited to add more info)
System Health
Home Assistant Core Integration
version: 0.118.4
installation_type: Home Assistant Core
dev: false
hassio: false
docker: false
virtualenv: true
python_version: 3.8.0
os_name: Linux
os_version: 5.4.83-v7l+
arch: armv7l
timezone: US/Eastern
Lovelace
dashboards: 2
mode: storage
views: 1
resources: 0
Yikes! That's a 4 year old release. How much are you doing with this install? And how much do you know about home assistant? You might be better off starting from scratch.
Start over for sure
oof ok i have had this pi since October and have been working with it. no other HA experience. i found a way to update but it is having an error when its updating
the guy i got this from has a bunch of scripts, and automations i dont want to lose if i had to do a fresh install.
what this pi4 with Home assistant is controlling is, the defrost cycle on an old freezer, a humidifier, dehumidifier, turning on the freezer to maintain proper temps. it also has some breakout cells that are no longer in use.
I did not see that no, I'll have to look into that path in the morning. Thank you
well i backed it up and am starting over. day or two of troubleshooting is ahead of me. hope i didn't mess it up to bad
It was then... he realized he messed up
got an invalid config error for the following integrations :
Recorder
statics.sensor
filter.sensor
history_stats.sensor
logbook
history
updater
Check the log file
it looks like they are all due to setup failed for recorder: integration failed to initialize
Error during connection setup: (psycopg2.OperationalError) connection to server on socket "/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432" failed: No such file or directory Is the server running locally and accepting connections on that socket? (Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/20/e3q8)
There you go
sorry im not very good at these things so takes me minute
Your PostgreSQL database isn't responding on the same IP/hostname as it was before
Unless you need Postgres for some reason then switch back to the default SQLite
(you almost certainly don't need it, unless you're a DBA, and even not then probably)
so just go into the config and change it to sqlite://homeassistant
Just comment out the db_url line
ok thanks lets reboot and pray lol
To check your configuration use the command for your install method:
Run that after changing YAML and before restarting
thank you for your help now it seems i have an integration issue so ill change channels to not clutter this one thanks again
Hello, my power went out this morning and my SD won't mount on my Pi 4. I am reinstalling on an SSD.
My backup is like 8 months old so I'm trying to find the files needed on this SD. Which files are needed? Just the entire supervisor folder?
supervisor/homeassistant = /config
So you want that one for sure, including all hidden files and directories. The others within supervisor, such as /ssl, /share, /media, /addon-configs, will depend on if those were in use
But in general, yes, all of those
And using a Linux system can I just use a USB stick to copy? What do you recommend?
Using a linux pc you can access those easily, yes. Using Windows or MacOS will require something that can read the extfs partitions
I'll give it a whirl really appreciate it @crude inlet
there are a number of partitions on the SD and the one you want should appear as haos-data
Yep! I'm in.
actually I forget, is it haos-data or hassos 🤔
hassos-data/supervisor/homeassistant
Not sure if this is where I need to ask, but how do you add both an android and an apple phone where it picks up if you are home or away?
does someone have an install guide or video, I tried adding my android and when I set up the automation to lock the door when I leave. It works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't not sure if its the way I have set it up or not
Might be related to this: https://dontkillmyapp.com/
But this is more of a #android-archived or #ios_and_mac-archived question.
thank you
I'm installing HA onto bare metal x86 (Micro PC). How can I be sure that the full SSD is available for use for HA? I followed Method 1 for the x86 install.
nm, found it via cli. ty
hi, just installed HAOS on a VM. I'd like to know which partition should I extend to be sure I will not have space problem. I mean the partition with database, addon, etc... or will the partition auto-extend on 1st boot ?
on my install its listed as /dev/sda8
run command df -h and see where /data is mounted.
i also have one. but should I extend it before booting ?
What is the current size of it?
1.3 Gb
yea, I would. 50G should be fine.
resize in progress 🙂 tx
I'm assuming you're doing the full supervised HAOS right?
yes
yep, 50G should be good. I just xferred away from HA in a VM. Just couldn't get my USB stick to stay stable for USB passthrough in XCP-NG
for myself, moving from a docker "test" configuration to a more production env with a full VM
that'll be a GREAT move. the addons / HACS make life so much easier.
much more easy for update in stead of manage docker container
yep, plus EASY backups
hmm. disk is not bootable after reboot. what should I've missed ?
I'm not sure. This was a new install right?
yes a fresh one. just followed the tutorial but after restoring the img, there is no special step except reboot
hmmm... yea, following method 1, my used space was 6GB.
Which hypervisor are you using?
yep. gotta remove that.
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative#hypervisor-specific-configuration
Also you could just load up the OVA, expand the drive before booting, and done.
EFI enabled and secure boot disable and voila !
shout victory too early. Now I'm stuck on the boot at "Waiting for root device PARTUUID0=...." it's more than 20 minutes.
Yea. After 5 minutes, I’d just use the OVA. I don’t have the patience.
haven't seen the OVa option :(. will try this tomorrow. to late for this night now ! tx
Did "os update" via the CLI to 12.2, it was "successful".
The VM then rebooted and auto selects "Slot B" with "unknown filesystem".
So I go back to "Slot A" - it boots 12.1 i.e. no update.
Anyone got any ideas?
am I the only "lucky" person to have that happen?
See for yourself: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues
Hello peeps, I've been following this guide:
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/windows
I've downloaded Oracle's Virtual Box version 7.0.14
I've got to the point where I need to boot the VM via the drive I've downloaded, but as soon as I do I am getting a message telling me that it failed to boot and is missing an OS 🤔
Has anything changed for Virtual Box 7?
Please share a screenshot of what you see and the VM's configuration
Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.
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Tried to copy the image here, but the chat prevents images?
Ah... imgur. I don't have an account 🤔
Read the message above yours.
You don't need one. Just click the prominent New post button.
Sucks or not, it does not need me to disable adblock >_>
At least directly link to the images
- https://i.ibb.co/D8TV4ZX/image-2024-04-13-003046650.png
- https://i.ibb.co/Hpz6cbZ/image-2024-04-13-003127595.png
And if you block imgur that's on you. Easy to unblock.
Ok, sorry. Will do
I don't block imgur. I use an adblock and they won't let me post anything without disbling it
You're blocking something that's required to post that you could unblock. Doesn't matter at the moment.
Is it possible you enabled secure boot under System?
Oh my god... Why are we talking about IMGUR? I don't block them, they block me
https://i.ibb.co/vdXSnBq/image-2024-04-13-003716354.png
As for Secure Boot, I've enabled it and reset keys but still getting the same message re-no OS
This picture is tiny. Disable secure boot.
It was disabled 🤔
I've re-disabled it and still same message
I've managed to get to EFI shell 🤔 But I am not sure what I can do to proceed from here
What is Automation.vdi? That should say something like haos_ova-12.2.vdi and be 32GB.
I've named the thing "Automation" on the first page,and it created it.
You should have imported the HAOS vdi, not created one. What would it boot off of an empty disk?
So I select it here:
https://i.postimg.cc/26WHnwMv/image-2024-04-13-004604532.png
Yes, just how the docs describe it.
Yeah, that's what I've done 🤔
I'll try to re-create it
You can just attach it as disk but yeah that also works.
Guess me trying to see the options in "Expert Mode" to try and see the "Network Settings" during setup and not after I've already created the box messed up the drive
Btw as you can see it says 32GB, your disk says 8GB.
After re-reading the conversation to check for typos I feel like I've come off kind of aggressive. That was not my intent. Glad you got it working.
hi all
im having alot of issues
it keeps saying cant read configorations error -32
Hey everybody - can't wait to get started automating!!!
I have an esp wroom 32 and I'm looking to set up multiple temperature and humidity sensors.
I'm using a windos laptop, downloaded virtual box and have home assistant running on the vm.
I've logged into HomeAssistant.local and added ESPhome add on
- When I ues ESPhome - it finds my USB connected esp but when I hit prepare for first use - it just spins
- When I choose to prepare for first use, it just spins indicating "connecting"
I'm thinking I missed a step or followed directions wrong for getting it set up.
Did you set up the VM's network in Virtualbox as NAT, Bridge, or something else?
Then go to Network > Adapter 1. Choose Bridged Adapter and choose your network adapter.
under network - it has ethernet and wireless as the separate options
I have it set as bridged adapter
I don't see the device under my network - I'm guessing I don't have it assigned to the right port, maybe?
So I'm finished with installation, but I am having trouble achieving what I actually want to once Home Assistant is working. Is there any tutorials somewhere on the various common integrations? How to use this etc...?
The integrations channel seems to be rather dead and there's no "Help" channel 😦
I've been told that Home Assistant can emulate "Apple Home" but I am yet to see any way to actually do it
Theres 2:
- HomeKit Bridge
- HomeKit Device
The first option simply allows me to use devices already connected to Home Assistant on the Apple Home app on the phone.
And option 2 does nothing 🤔
I get the following dialogue box:
HomeKit Device communicates over the local area network using a secure encrypted connection without a separate HomeKit Controller or iCloud. Select the device you want to pair with:
Device
HASS Bridge KM 7734B5 (Bridge)```
And when I press "Submit" it just spins there with this dialogue box indefinitely
#integrations-archived is where to ask
Yeah 🤔
I am trying, and I understand this is the wrong channel. It just #integrations-archived seems to be dead and nobody answers there 😅
I might be a bit impatient, but I've only got the weekend to play with this and try and set it up before if it doesn't work gotta take it down and try again much later
Cross posting won't endear you to folks here
I am.... Ok I get it. I were just hoping to get "An answer" or anything 🤔
Sorry, I will stop posting here....
just installed latest update on HA, lots of integrations broken, can't restart from frontend. How can I force a restart?
or perhaps how do I roll back an update?
I were told this is the right place to ask (Unless it's in #hardware-archived ). I need Bluetooth to work on my setup.
I've completed the set up using the Virtual Box HASS drive thingy
(Impact has kindly assisted in getting it sorted in these messages:
#installation-archived message)
I've now added a bluetooth dongle to the device I run the VM on and it is seen on the windows machine. The windows OS can use the dongle just fine:
https://i.postimg.cc/wB2tsLq2/image-2024-04-13-221903192.png
And I think I I've made it so that Virtual box passes the USB adapter to the VM in settings?
https://i.postimg.cc/8c9N6Pft/image-2024-04-13-220751757.png
But for some reason when going into "Integrations" in home assist it tells me that there's 0 devices to use 🤔
Can somebody please help me get the bluetooth working with Home Assistant?
Or is this the wrong place to ask about it?
EDIT:
Solved:
#installation-archived message
Hello I have a problem I want to access the url http://homeassistant.local:8123 except it doesn't work and I even did with my IP and its also doesn't want to
Could someone help me would be really awesome and cool of you
Can you make sure that Home Assistant is actually running? Where have you installed it?
I did it with a virtual machine except that when I want to access the link it gives an error ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
Update - I've solved it. Had to go to the USB settings on the Oracle VM settings and change the USB filter settings Remote to Any
Which orchestrator are you using? Oracle Virtual Box? VMWare? Or something else?
Have you followed the network adapter settings and changed the network adapter to Bridge and not NAT?
oracle and yes I put in bridge
On the VM itself (The one that has a prompt that looks like this: ha >)
Type:
network info
it's done
Doesn't look like the VM got an IP - Can you show me your VM network adapter settings?
The guide said that Wi-Fi is not going to work. You'll need ethernet.
I assume it says that the mode of access is access point - Not bridge.
What can be selected in the top drop down menu?
And what options have you got in "Advanced"?
Ah no, translating it says "Bridge Access". My bad
https://imgur.com/a/rIvJP8E
So I don't have to use wifi but an ethernet cable is it?
The installation guide strongly suggests that Wi-Fi is not going to work and that an Ethernet cable will be required yes.
Is it still possible to bypass that. Probably, with a lot of knowhow that I do not have 😅
I can try... But no promises, and probably this channel is the wrong place to do it
ok thanks for the information
If I summarize the situation, my desktop PC must be connected to Ethernet for the site to open, is that correct?
For the VM to get an IP from your router yes.
I guess there might be a way to do it over Wi-Fi as well, but it requires a level of knowledge beyond mine as I am not too familiar with VM's all that much 🤔
Ultimately you could always give your VM an IP address and use NAT 🤔
But it requires networking understanding that I am not comfortable to go through in here 😅
Ok I can get back to you if the problem is still the same?
I don't believe you'll have a problem 🙂 But sure. Will do my best
ok thank you i can add you as friends so we can chat next time in private message if i ever encounter another problem
I think it's best to keep the conversation here so it's available for others to see
ok
Have a great night out
I try to move Home Assistant from Computer A to Computer B.
I have copied all files + done the docker save command. I have run docker load and pasted all files and started up the container. But it gives error on the MySQL database. Is this stored another place? And the HA does not load up with a webpage. Can someone help me with some ideas where to start?
Use the backup and restore functionality.
Explain please?
yeah i could use this if the home assistant webpage started 🙂
I use docker standalone yes.
Copied all files.
Don't forget the hidden ones. What error are you getting?
loads of messages refering to file /usr/local/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqllchemy/engine/base.by line 3233 in begin with self.connect ...
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This comes AFTER it says error (recorder) Homeassistant.components.recover.core - Error during conenction setup (mysqldb.operationalError) (2002, cant connect to server on ip x.x.x.x (115)
i thought pull would install mysql for me on the new vm
I'm missing a lot of information. Can you share your compose file and the mentioned logs? Perhaps also some information about your setup.
i think the problem is that i dont have mysql installed
🤷
You're using a container. That is not the problem
yeah thats why i though a easy copy paste would be enough for this.
We can't help unless you provide more information. More variables are not helpful.
OMG! ..
I found the failure
@raven forge - User error.. i changed ip on the host.. the host didnt registered the IP before deactivation of the network card and reactivated it
Works now
Use the docker hostname 🙂
thanks for your attention though
Out of curiosity, is there a particular reason you use MySQL for HA?
well. Didnt they change it from mariadb to mysql some versions ago?
The default has always been sqlite
I am not sure why i have it. There was an upgrade once and i just followed on... 🙂
I am just a simple user on Home Assistant - my skill levels are barely enough to run it. Converted from physical host to vm now atleast 🙂
Then you just be using the default sqlite database
I'd suggest SQLite then. MySQL/MariaDB would just be one more dependency you have to take care of.
in the custom.cnf file under mariadb it says " the mysql database server configuration file"
yeah, then i need to learn how to change 😄
It's as simple as getting rid of the MySQL stuff that you put under recorder:
Here is the definition i have. I have seen the recorder line in guides.. but i dont have this in my configuration.yaml
https://dpaste.org/PYijd
HA shouldn't use MySQL then. Try keep it stopped and see what happens if you start HA.
i havent install mysql myself yet on the new vm
as i said.. i thought it would be automatically pulled within the container
If you choose to use a non-default database, it's up to you to manage it
Yeah, no i prefer to run as stock as possible for easier life
That is not HA installation related. The ESPHome Discord or #diy-archived might be able to help
Thank you sir.
hello !
I'm connected via ethernet cable but the site still refuses to open and shows an error DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
Did you check that you're getting an IP now on the Linux machine running HA?
wait, I'm looking at her
https://imgur.com/a/dXujZxq There's no IP that shows up
Have you made sure that your NIC is in bridge mode?
Run ha network info.
Oh it's about WiFi bridging again.
yes
ok
So you think it's coming from where the problem comes from
#general-archived message
But your VM did at least get an ip earlier if I remember correctly. What did you change since then?
No only docker
Try rebooting the VM
Maybe I'm mixing it up with someone else. Kinda hard to keep track of all the conversations if they are all so similar.
I'm just switching to wired connection from an ethernet cable before I was connected to wifi and I was getting IPs but now I'm connecting from a cable to my modem I don't even get IPs anymore
Based on screenshot you're still using wifi
The modem might not give out DHCP ips. What does your networking setup look like?
No, I'm connected from a cable https://imgur.com/a/KZxjWWA
But your VM does not use that: #installation-archived message
Change the VM settings to use the ethernet port
Sorry but I'm doing it how I don't know too much about it
Click the Name dropdown and select your network that has the cable in it.
https://imgur.com/a/yM19YZw it's done
That's all the instruction you need: #installation-archived message
Then reboot the VM and see what happens.
Yup, what Impact said
okk
https://imgur.com/a/cOBUxrJ yes its working now I will try to open the site belongs to homeassistant.local:8123
Are you sure that is hide worthy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network#Private_IPv4_addresses
The ip address is likely more reliable. .local sometimes just doesn't work.
yes i'm sure
https://imgur.com/a/rHL17Fj ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
ok
I told you to use the ip‽
the same with IP
ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
If the ip you get is hide worthy something weird is going on. It should be a local ip.
I didn't understand what you mean
Just show me the first two octets or so of the ip and tell me a bit about your networking setup. You said you're connected to a modem.
https://imgur.com/a/YJl6qYN In fact I have my current PC which is connected from an ethernet cable which is connected to the wifi modem
Yeah that's a local ip. See my wikipedia link. Besides, you forgot to hide it in the middle.
Can you try ha network info again? Also try if you can reach the observer port.
Do I need to do an IP calculation?
ok
I'm not sure aht you mean by that. It might make sense for you to create a thread at this point.
Also what do I have to do with the wikipedia link
🤨
What does that even mean. Your VM should get an IP from your router and all PCs on Lan should have access to it
Can you ping the VM IP?
How I do it
I am not sure you're technical enough to do this project buddy 🤔
Not trying to be rude here, but there's a level of basics you need to know or at least know how to learn
I just ask a question
You should be able to ping 192.168.0.15 from your PC/phone. As well as telnet or 'Test-NetConnection' to it via power shell on the required port
ok
I understand. But this is not PC fundamentals class 😦
I am not being rude. Just certain basics are expected.
It's the equivalent of asking "What is a function" when you're trying to write a script....
https://imgur.com/a/05XuNYa yes its ping
Also try if you can reach the observer port.
#installation-archived message
ok I'll try to ping
Telnet to it via the port
I was more thinking of visiting it in your browser. Just replace 8123.
That's the docker IP
You don't need external access to it
ok
You need access to 192.168.0.15 on port 8123
ok
Open powershell on your PC (The one you want access to Home Assistant to from) and type:
Test-NetConnection 192.168.0.15 -Port 8123
The observer port is 4357. If that fails you don't even have to look at core logs.
Why don't you show us the address bar? 🤔
You tried that already earlier. Try replacing 8123 with 4357.
Try what Impact has said. And if that still doesn't work... As I said - Open Powershell and run these two commands:
ipconfig
Test-NetConnection 192.168.0.15 -Port 8123
OKEY
You are using HTTPS right? 🤔
Not just typing the ip?
Okay, now we can check the core logs and see why it doesn't respond. Run ha core logs.
yes
okey
While I'm a network engineer and would like to see the output of the two commands I've asked for. Probably listening to Impact is more helpful 😅
Always good to have a clearer picture with more information. I was just trying to figure out if it's a connectivity issue or a core issue. Just usually doesn't take almost 30 minutes.
Please hide that panel.
ok waiting
While Impact reviews the log can you run this in Powershell?
https://i.postimg.cc/Tw5nVJRr/image-2024-04-14-161818255.png
Hmm I've seen this error before. Not sure by what it's caused though. I can only find a few old issues about it.
Can you do me a favor and enter these two commands in the VM's CLI?
login
cat /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant/.HA_VERSION
okey
We should really thread this.
It displays the text "No Shuch File or Directory
Is there a way to install Home Assistant on my computer without needing a hub?
I plan on not using z wave, or zigbee devices
sure, if whatever devices you want to control are all visible on the same network that home assistant is running on (e.g. they're all connected with ethernet or wifi) then you don't need a hub or a radio dongle.
they are, im wondering how to install
if you have a dedicate pc to use, install home assistant OS on that - otherwise, it would probably make sense to try home assistant os in a virtual machine.
ok
Good evening. I have made a change to my configuration file and now HA won't boot up anymore. I'm not able to access the installation as I have not copied my public key to my new mac. So I'm lost here. Is this the right channel to ask for some help on how to get into the configuration yaml file?
I have installed on a raspberry pi 4 and have the files on an external drive connect through usb. I tried connecting that drive directly to the Mac but it doesn't recognize the filesystem.
The change I made was to include a few lines with http: and then a line with fullchain.pem and privkey.pem for the let's encrypt installation with duckdns.
If you were configuring ssl and then added that configuration, it would no longer be reachable using http:// in your browser. You would have to use https://
@frail pumice so it could be that nothing is wrong
It does. Once you add those lines for the pem files, only https works
oh wow... i was really internally panicking for nothing there
Well once you add them and restart ha
I just used https and I'm in, although it said it's not safe
Yeah it doesn’t matter whether it is valid or not, you still need to use https
Can I force a normal http request to https as well? so I cannot make this mistake anymore?
It should be valid for whatever domain you are making use of (duckdns?)
If you configure split dns on your network, but this is outside of HA. Or use this a while and “graduate” to a reverse proxy setup
I just hoped there would be something simple to add as line and then force all http trafic to https. You can do something like that in WordPress.
hello i have an error i would like to get some help with where do i post it?
If it’s a short error you can share it here. If it’s more than that you should link to a paste site
ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86-64-homeassistant:2024.4.3: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.44/images/create?tag=2024.4.3&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fgeneric-x86-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: TLS handshake timeout")
2024-04-14 21:42:51.874 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retrying in 30sec
Thanks @crude inlet! I'll be off now configuring further.
realy any help would be great as i am new to this
does anyone know where I can find help for Frigate installation in Home Assistant?
hello i need help with instaling home assistant on a wyse 3040 dell
[10:13 AM]
becuase it has like 8gb i installed the os on a usb and plugged it in but it gives me this error
[10:13 AM]
ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86-64-homeassistant:2024.4.3: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.44/images/create?tag=2024.4.3&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fgeneric-x86-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: TLS handshake timeout")
2024-04-14 21:42:51.874 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retrying in 30sec
Does that computer have internet access?
yes
Hey team, anyone have any ideas why my home assistant server seems to be accessible via the app but keeps being unreachable by my computer, cant even be pinged, then suddenly returns where I can access it and ping it - using Proxmox and HAOS. It also appears to be disconnecting my matter devices
hi all, this morning my HA appliance has suddenly.....became dead. To clarify, i am using HAOS 12.2. VM boots without issue, but it seems like HA Core is for some reason dead in the water. ive tried spinning up a new appliance and running a restore with multiple backups, and same result. i have backups that run every night at 12am and going back as far as 5 days is a no-go. HA Core is 2024.4.0 right now
lol, appears to might be back up after updating to 2024.4.3. super weird...
thoughts on upgrading to MariaDB on an installation of HA? seems a lot of old vidoe's on HA says you should upgrade but curious if its still needed?
@cursive plank the default db has seen many optimizations and improvements and I don't see the need for mariadb myself (I did use it in the past).
Thansk for the feeback. that was my indication as well as none of the youtube sphere is saying it should be done in recent videos
The only benefit I see are the better tools for inspecting your data. Very few need this.
in the old days, before optimization... history would auto load like every entity in graphs and stuff
I'm running Homeassistant on an rpi4, version 2024.4.2. I've tried to upgrade thru the webUI to 2024.4.3 about six times -- each time, it successfully shuts down, but never drops off the network and never completes the upgrade. I end up powercycling the rpi. I am running Home Assistant OS 12.2. Where should I look next?
logs, power, storage
worst case is you take your backup and reimage the pi and restore
storage indicates that I have about 15 of 32gb free. Power is provided by a genuine raspberryPi powersource (I know these 4s are picky). dmesg doesn't seem like it's complaining of any hardware issues. logs don't have anything that seem SUPER scary -- complaints about localtuya not starting fast enough, snf YP-link smart home not starting rigt. Nothing worse than a warning. is it likely that localtuya is preventing the upgrade?
Home Assistant Supervisor is complaining plenty about docker.manager -- and i don't want to even run docker in this rpi if i can avoid it.
"Home Assistant Supervisor is complaining plenty about docker.manager" welllll addons are docker containers
"Home Assistant Supervisor is complaining plenty about docker.manager" what is the complaint?
Almost certainly that you've skipped past the requirements for that method
Hey, could anyone help me understand installation?
I have HAOS running on a device and used a usb drive to install it but I never removed the drive because I"m not sure if it was installed on the ext. drive or the devices memory proper
shut down the system, unplug the usb, start the system up
no-boot -> it's on the usb
Right that makes perfect sense haha
I think it actually IS on the usb though... Just checked my HAGUI and according to how much memory is has free...
I don't remember there being any kind of option to pick which drive to use when I installed it though which is weird
What does your setup look like?
My setup is not normal
I want to move the installation and use proxmox (or something) because I want to run pihole and a media server (and maybe reverse proxy) on the same device..
Honestly it doesn't make sense to me that most of this stuff is not possible (or very difficult) on HAOS proper.. I don't understand if this is due to technical reasons though
Like... why not have a good media server solution built in to HA? Or an addon to do this... is there some technical bottleneck ?
Media server seems like a common use that the demographic that uses HA would also use
it does?
It does have one?
Yes
it's the media tab
And I've seen a bunch of people that are like "that';s not what HA is for"
right but that's not a server
right?
you can put media files in it
it's not going to be plex levels
but you can get plex as an addon
I don't want to use plex anyways.. i want opensource and transparency as much as possible
I was thinking jellyfin.. would run it in a container i guess
You shouldn't abuse HAOS as a NAS though. Not everything makes sense to run on HAOS, even if there's an addon for it.
Ok so what's the reason for that?
Is there some technical reason?
It just seems to make sense, at least from an organization stand point, to have your media "hub" in your "home hub"
Addons are limited and opinionated. Also see here: <#hardware-archived message>
You can't even disable authentication for mosquitto just to name a very simple example. You also can't RAID multiple HDDs or stuff like that. HAOS is a purpose built OS so that's fine. The issue is if you want to use it for things beyond that.
Thanks
can't disable auth on mos on HA ?
thats what you mean?
So HA really doesn't do any of the heavy lifting, it really just integrates disparate techs/brands and provides a frontend for them
I wouldn't say that.
I honestly don't have enough technical expertise to have much of an opinion
that's sort of half the reason i want to get this stuff working and understand it better
so were you saying in those messages that using HA barebones would limit some functionality?
bare metal*
Yes, see my link.
Would my idea to run it on Proxmox so that I can also run pi hole, jellyfin (or similar) etc make sense?
ok
Your mention of proxmox is why I linked my post about virtualization 🙂
i might just get another device.. I just don't like the idea of multiple devices.. for a bunch of obvous reasons
but you use small SoC devices then maybe that line of reasoning really doesn't make sense
I don't: #general-archived message
idek if I'm using the mos addon.. was running HA in container and zigbee2mqtt... now I'm running HAOS because I just got sick of not being able to use addons
people say that addons are just containers... but when i'd look for container options for whatever I wanted to do I would never find them
so idfk
Let's say you want to host mosquitto on your own as container you 'd just search mosquitto docker.
Same for VS Code Server or other addons.
hmm yeah I have moquitto broker addon enabled/running... zigbee2mqtt addon installed but disabled
right
i did get the mosquitto container running ( on the other device)
and have had other containers workinh
But the point is you can run HAOS and your addons and once they limit you or you're missing something you can run the container on your onw in another VM.
but there would be certain addons that I couldn't find a synonymous container for...
Let's thread this until it's #installation-archived relevant again.
i think I ended up throwing up my hands when trying to get ssl working... i DID get ssl working a few years ago without HAOS .. using dehydrated I think... I stopped messing with HA etc for a couple years until just recently
alright
so having HAOS running with additional containers makes sense too?
Honestly it seems like it would... I mean what difference does it make
I think I'm just gunna install proxmox ve and see what happens
That's the thing. You can't install random containers on HAOS. The thread is above btw.
I've never used a hypervisor so I should try it regardless
Right
Ok lemme read that
you dont use ssl??
Why?
it's sort of pointless right
lol
I don't really need it in my LAN.
but do you use your LAN from the WAN
Rarely and when I do I use tailscale.
i don't fully understand it but it seemed like ssl is the sort of thing you'd really only need for big money enterprise stuff
or if I was like a mod at the silkroad
Nothing in my home is directly accessible from the internet.
that's secure...
but you're still using the internet
so what do you mean, you have a device in the middle? That would mean a reverse proxy right?
or do you have all your IoT stuff on a seperate LAN network
I've thought of that... I have an extra decent router
alright lemme read this
I do but that's not really related to it. Maybe this helps?
https://tailscale.com/
https://tailscale.com/blog/how-tailscale-works
I have CGNAT so this was the next simplest thing to use.
But we're still very off-topic. Let's continue in a thread until it's relevant again: https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/1229870359931785287
so tailscale is like a DNS for encryption credentials
("we were like a police department for wiseguys")
alright I'll ttyl I'm going for a walk while its nice out
appreciate the help
I use tailscale at home and at work with great results
Probably the single best networking product I have ever used
Is the docker image working? I just can't seem to connect to it.
What are you talking about?
started the container on my server. Then trying to connect to it via 192.168.1.191:8123 and nothing happens.
Please share how you started the container and check the container logs.
I followed this guide: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux
And ran this:
docker run -d --name homeassistant --privileged --restart=unless-stopped -e TZ=MY_TIME_ZONE -v /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config -v /run/dbus:/run/dbus:ro --network=host homeassistant/home-assistant
Server is an ubuntu machine on my LAN.
I recommend the compose way but in any case you are supposed to replace those placeholders.
Yes I did that.
Then share the real command. I wanted to see exactly what you did. Also check docker logs homeassistant.
the command:
docker run -d --name ha --privileged --restart=unless-stopped -e TZ=Europe/Stockholm -v /homeassistant/:/config -v /run/dbus:/run/dbus:ro --network=host homeassistant/home-assistant
@cobalt marsh I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:
huh so it didn't like the bluetooth thing?
If this is a new install I'd stop it, wipe the config directory (including hidden directories and files) and try again.
roger that
You can start without the d flag to immediately see what happens.
oh shit. Ok now I'm embarrased.
I opened the wrong port in my firewall 😂
Sorry for wasting your time.
No problem.
Much appreciated for your help! have a nice [insert time of day]!
hello i was installing and trying to get to the ip adress and the ip adress is not even there?
Please run ha network info and show us what it says. Is your device plugged in via a network cable?
im running it on a vm but no my pc is not connected with a ethernet cable
oh
nevermind
it says the ip adress is 10.0.2.2 i dont think that is the real ip adress
yep does not exist
Well it has to get a ip assigned from something. Usually that's via DHCP from a router it's connected into.
HAOS need internet during setup.
one second im going to run ipconfig (on my host) to see what ip adress does vitualbox assigned to it
oh its says media dissconected
uh
there is no ip assigned to it at all according to ipconfig
Not a surprise if the PC is not connected anywhere.
no like im running the vm on my host (where i am at right now) witch is my main
You said your PC is not connected via ethernet.
WiFi and virtualization don't mesh well.
You can try to bridge it but it might not work.
thats what im useing
wait i changed it to use hyper-v ethernet
still nothing
wait i looked under advanced and there was a prominscuous mode and i just said to allow all
How would it?
still dont know its ip adress
Does your computer have internet right now?
Can you show me the VM's network config and your PCs network settings?
i cant this channel wont let me send images
well this is unexpected (installed it useing WSL) https://pastebin.com/BcuPzE1k
weird issue after using balena to write directly to an M.2 ssd. local console is too small to read properly. HA is not coming up properly and I cant use the local console to troubleshoot because I cant read it. I can't change the grub config to fix the resolution because the entire filesystem is read only. I wasnt able to locate any similar issues in the forum or in the faq.
Installing on a 6th gen i3
NUC
https://imgur.com/a/PxHaHPe for a pic of what I am trying to describe.
Might be a nothingburger. When I concluded my efforts last night the web interface was not responding, however I just checked again and it appears to be up so the tiny console does not appear to be a blocking issue anymore at the moment.
hello can someone help out with this happening? https://pastebin.com/BcuPzE1k
Python 3.10? Looks quit old
Are you trying to install HA with pip?
thats what i installed it with ya
The requirement for the present version of HA core is Python 3.12
how do i upgrade python
i already tried to upgrade it
I think you shouldn't be installing HA that way
That depends on the OS 
I already tried to do it in a vm but it did not work
"did not work" isn't enough
like this was my last message with a VM installed
but you also have a container install available
and.. WSL is a VM
I suggest not bailing on the easier installation methods to go to a harder one
i HAD to go the harder way
🤷
now home assistant keeps doing this
File "aiohttp/_http_parser.pyx", line 557, in aiohttp._http_parser.HttpParser.feed_data
aiohttp.http_exceptions.BadStatusLine: 400, message:
Bad status line "Invalid method encountered:\n\n b'\x10X'\n ^"
2024-04-17 13:24:16.736 ERROR (MainThread) [aiohttp.server] Error handling request
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/dev/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/aiohttp/web_protocol.py", line 332, in data_received
messages, upgraded, tail = self._request_parser.feed_data(data)
File "aiohttp/_http_parser.pyx", line 557, in aiohttp._http_parser.HttpParser.feed_data
aiohttp.http_exceptions.BadStatusLine: 400, message:
Bad status line "Invalid method encountered:\n\n b'\x10b'\n ^"
Still: unsupported Python version
ok so how do i upgrade pip and python?
That depends on the OS used
unbuntu
command line
in windows
So Ubuntu in WSL
yes
And which version of Ubuntu?
It will not magically resolve by posting that you are using an unsupported Python version 3 times
but how do i show the version of unbuntu? i only worked with the desktop based versions
lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS
Release: 22.04
Codename: jammy
ok let me try to do it
Good luck
ok no errors
let me run home assistant
nope
still python errors
wait what command runs home assistant because i ran it useing python3 i dont think it upgraded properly
oh wait it upgraded
wait how do i get out of venv
well.....
Hi, my homeassistant doesn't want to log in because of the IP, can anyone help me?
I had managed to do it on my laptop, now the computer is giving me an error, and I did exactly the same
sorry about my english, it's not very good
So you added something like this?
http:
ip_ban_enabled: true
What error do you get?
Unable to access this website
Connection to 1.............. was refused.
Try:
Check the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
And you have not enabled https, right?
In that case you have to use https://<IP of HA>:8123
it's what I'm doing
Have you checked the IP address in your router? Unless you set a static IP, it may have changed.
I tried the others, but it's not going
"others"? A host can only have one IP. You should know exactly what the IP is if you check on your router. Also try ping homeassistant.local.
look at your private please, I sent you the print there
People love that.
Yeah, I'm done. Cross posting and unsolicited messaging. Best of luck.
Peace be with you friends! I put fedora on my old Chuwi Vi8+ tablet. According to the instructions: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/installing-home-assistant-core-on-fedora/199518
The problem is that I don't know how to start it automatically when the tablet boots up. Can anyone help?
You know the concept of timezones? 
It is not 3 am everywhere
well ya
I followed the installation steps on this website https://github.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer step by step but it didn't work
on pi3
Ok
Hi all, I am trying to integrate this repository https://github.com/jekalmin/extended_openai_conversation, however after adding the repository via HACS and restarting the system, I am unable to get the integration "Extended Openai Conversation". Does anybody know why this could be ?
Did you install the integration via HACS or just add the repository to HACS?
I added the repository to HACS, but cannot find the integration
Did you add the integration via HACS > Integrations and its blue button at the bottom?
I have just added it and restarted, but cannot add it yet to the systems integrations
@obsidian hinge Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.
Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.
Okay now it works. Out of nowhere. Lol
That image looks like the new (experimental) view
Did not touch anything, but now works, amazing😅
Hi guys all right ?
Could someone help me with my Vitualbox
It's giving an error on the IP
What error?
hey all,
just purchase and have tried to set up HA green. Managed to get to the stage where I selected my locality, waited approx 10 mins and when I reopend the application (Android) I was met with the login screen. The credentials I set earlier do not work to login (says user / password not found).
Will I need to perform a factory reset? If so, seeing as I can't enter the UI, will I be able to boot from a Micro SD?
Unable to access this website
Connection to 1.............. was refused.
Try:
Check the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
Run ha network info in the VM and share its output and the VM's network config.
How do I do this, I don't understand sorry
I'm kind of new to this world, I'm still learning
Double click the VM. You should see a black screen with some information. Enter the command there.
I sent you a print in your private, could you help me?