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humble mirage
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Check for more log details from the build, and maybe try installing just the problem package to get more details

ember basin
humble scaffoldBOT
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@ember basin When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

humble mirage
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Don't let me know, just update the channel if you need help

ember basin
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oh ok sorry I will

humble mirage
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Personally I think you're taking the wrong approach here

ember basin
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I might yeah

humble mirage
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But hey, lots of people want to make life hard for themselves

ember basin
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sadly running on a phone is one of my only choices (can't run it on other PCs)

humble mirage
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                cc: error: unable to execute command: Segmentation fault
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🤣

ember basin
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mmhmm true, I know that some users have managed to run it

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I will look into it better

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thanks

plush folio
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If I have crash problems on a os installation, would a docker installation be better?

humble mirage
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Depends on the cause of the crash

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Unless it's OS related things won't change

subtle vault
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hello

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how can i install hass to a rasberry pi which has pi hole allready set up

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will they work together?

humble mirage
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  1. Use the native Docker (aka Container) install
  2. Flash HAOS and use the AdGuard #add-ons-archived instead
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Take your pick

subtle vault
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docker is like two differant ips on same device right?

humble mirage
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No

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That'd be a VM

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Docker is containers, like namespaces

subtle vault
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i only want to add wifi controlled to openrgb so i can do light sync

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so what do you recomend

humble mirage
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Docker means no changes to anything else on the Pi

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HAOS means everything changes

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Docker is probably the way to go, but it's entirely up to you

subtle vault
humble mirage
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(also depends on whether HA can do the light sync you want, it's not really for music level light syncing)

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Not using any of the things you mentioned I don't know the answer, but Docker is easy to remove if it doesn't work

subtle vault
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ok then i will try docker

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i have ssh to the pi will it work that way or i have to do something physically with pi?

humble mirage
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SSH is all you need

subtle vault
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thanks

raven forge
subtle vault
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i am a noob at this i even forgot whether i have 32 or 64 bit pi os

humble mirage
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Pi3 or older will probably be 32

subtle vault
raven forge
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No. Best to just ask and wait for someone to answer rather than tag people.

subtle vault
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oh sry

humble mirage
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Or Google

subtle vault
humble mirage
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home assistant openrgb

subtle vault
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so cant find anything

humble mirage
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Well... you're over thinking

subtle vault
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yep

humble mirage
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  1. Can HA integrate with it?
subtle vault
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yes openrgb has ha integration

humble mirage
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if yes then move to the question of whether you can get the light sync you want

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And you haven't explained that at all

subtle vault
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openrgb is an opensource software to controll rgb devices of a pc

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i dont have pc compatible lights

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but i do have google home compatable lights

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so in a around about way i am trying too add these lights to openrgb

humble mirage
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Google Home compatible doesn't mean HA compatible

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But still what are you trying to achieve here?

subtle vault
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ummmm

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i have dumb 12 v lights

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i have added wifi controller to them

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i can controll them through moble app

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but now i want to control through pc

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using the software openrgb

humble mirage
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HA's OpenRGB integration is for HA to talk to OpenRGB, not the other way

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You may be able to sync the lights with the settings from OpenRGB, as long as the changes aren't fast and the integration is push not poll

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if it uses polling then it's going to be painful

subtle vault
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hmm my brain is going mush

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thank for helping me thus far tho

ember basin
teal thistle
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Is it a good idea to install HAOS on my synology nas?

humble mirage
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If the NAS can run VMs then sure

teal thistle
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how much storage would u recommend?

humble mirage
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The docs say minimum 32 GB

teal thistle
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whaa

humble mirage
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Depending on what you want to do that's either plenty, or nowhere near enough

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You do realise there's an OS, software, and data to fit in that 32 GB 😉

teal thistle
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well it's not gonna be a huge system we mostly have knx in our home anyway which is running on Gira so there would be some devices like cameras in there

humble mirage
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You could try skimping, but you'll regret it

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Disk space is cheap

teal thistle
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yeah I think 32 gigs is enough, we've got like a terabyte on the nas and SSDs aren't that expensive

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700 gigs available lmao

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thank you :)

dire hawk
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hi :)
I have a headless box in the attic running haos who seam to work since some automation do run, but the webui don't

➜  ~ curl 192.168.1.58:8123
curl: (52) Empty reply from server

Before i carry a display and everything up there, any idea of what could cause this ?

humble mirage
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Do you have SSH access?

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Or Samba?

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Basically, some other way of getting to the logs

dire hawk
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no, both addon don't start at boot i believe.

➜  ~ nmap 192.168.1.58 -p 1000-9000   
Starting Nmap 7.94 ( https://nmap.org ) at 2024-04-02 21:18 CEST
Nmap scan report for homeassistant.gdkprod.com (192.168.1.58)
Host is up (0.00019s latency).
Not shown: 7995 closed tcp ports (conn-refused)
PORT     STATE SERVICE
4357/tcp open  qsnet-cond
5355/tcp open  llmnr
8086/tcp open  d-s-n
8123/tcp open  polipo
8883/tcp open  secure-mqtt
8884/tcp open  unknown
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this thing is suposed to have intel vpro, but i never managed to have the remote display working ><

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home assistant observer is all green but i don't think i can do anything on that page

humble mirage
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When you get it working again you should troubleshoot why those add-ons don't start on boot

dire hawk
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that's because i didn't enabled them ><

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which is dumb, don't get me wrong

raven forge
dire hawk
raven forge
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No. That would be for port 22222 developer/host SSH.

dire hawk
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oh, my bad

humble mirage
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Though SSH with a key is better than SSH with a password

dire hawk
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yea, port 22 does run ... but i didn't set it up so i have no idea what key it use.

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i usealy connect to port 2200

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that is suposed to be the open ssh addon, maybe i do have something up Oo
But unlike the other ssh addon this one don't seam to use the hassio usename ?

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darn, it use root, and i have acces :D

dire hawk
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i'll move to "ha os" thread if i find it to ask for how to perform a reset of the instance but no the addon

humble scaffoldBOT
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@steady stirrup I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

steady stirrup
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does anyone have a plan?

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I use a Debian 11 KVM

steady stirrup
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I´ll try

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Ty

tender wren
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But Supervised is not recommended

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Either HAOS (on bare metal or as a VM) or a Container install.

steady stirrup
humble scaffoldBOT
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@steady stirrup I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

steady stirrup
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this is now on Debain 12

tender wren
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The problem is the tutorial recommending Supervised

steady stirrup
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okay

tender wren
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[warn] If you want more control over your own system, run
[warn] Home Assistant as a VM or run Home Assistant Core
[warn] via a Docker container.

dire hawk
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After a quick rm of all config, and an update, i got ha back :)
That's good, it's an old backup and i need to migrate the new one on it
Thank's for the help

tender wren
steady stirrup
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Okay, I managed it after all

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I just installed this

homeassistant-supervised depends on systemd-journal-remote; however:
Package systemd-journal-remote is not installed.
homeassistant-supervised depends on nfs-common; however:
Package nfs-common is not installed.
homeassistant-supervised depends on cifs-utils; however:
Package cifs-utils is not installed.

tender wren
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Forget that installation method. It causes more trouble, than it does good.

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You wouldn't get the options to install add-ons or to update via the UI though

gray bone
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Hiya folks! Trying to get Haos running on KVM using virt-install on my Ubuntu server running 22.04.4; swtpm keeps failing, and I am clueless as to what to do next... Any ideas?

humble mirage
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What's the error/message about swtpm?

gray bone
# humble mirage What's the error/message about swtpm?

Starting vTPM manufacturing as swtpm:swtpm @ Tue 02 Apr 2024 09:42:36 PM CEST
swtpm process terminated unexpectedly.
Could not start the TPM 2.
An error occurred. Authoring the TPM state failed.
Ending vTPM manufacturing @ Tue 02 Apr 2024 09:42:36 PM CEST

humble mirage
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Google suggests TPM support is a setting you can change

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You can also install a TPM emulator apparently

gray bone
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WARNING Using --osinfo generic, VM performance may suffer. Specify an accurate OS for optimal results.

Starting install...
ERROR internal error: Could not run '/usr/bin/swtpm_setup'. exitstatus: 1; Check error log '/var/log/swtpm/libvirt/qemu/hass-swtpm.log' for details.
Domain installation does not appear to have been successful.
If it was, you can restart your domain by running:
virsh --connect qemu:///system start hass
otherwise, please restart your installation.

gray bone
humble mirage
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I'd check the log it mentions

gray bone
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I have never used swtpm before, and there is no guide / doc on the HA installation on how to get TPM emulation up and running (or I am blind)

humble mirage
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Check too that it's installed

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Well, the problem is that the HA docs don't cover the host OS for VMs, since that part isn't HA specific

gray bone
# humble mirage I'd check the log it mentions

that was the content I posted before, the log states
Starting vTPM manufacturing as swtpm:swtpm @ Tue 02 Apr 2024 09:42:36 PM CEST
swtpm process terminated unexpectedly.
Could not start the TPM 2.
An error occurred. Authoring the TPM state failed.
Ending vTPM manufacturing @ Tue 02 Apr 2024 09:42:36 PM CEST

humble mirage
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So you can find any generic Ubuntu guide for TPM and virt-install

humble scaffoldBOT
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@gray bone When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

gray bone
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thx, will try to find my luck there

half blade
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Hi,
I've just cloned my RPi3 sd card to a new sd card (with windisk32imager).
But now when starting on the new sd card, I get stuck at "Waiting for the Home Assistant CLI to be ready..."

humble mirage
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You put it in another or the same Pi3?

half blade
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Same RPi3

humble mirage
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Then something went wrong with the clone

raven forge
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Can you show a picture of what you see?

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

half blade
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Before I had a timeout

raven forge
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A lot of people get confused by that message because it stays there even after the CLI has been started so I wanted to make sure.
If the CLI doesn't start within 60s it should put you into a emergency console (just ash) from where you can investigate with things like docker logs hassio_cli, docker logs hassio_supervisor, journalctl -u hassos-supervisor, journalctl -xeb.

half blade
raven forge
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Personally I would just try a new clone since those hassos-data related messages don't look great.
You can check with lsblk -o+LABEL,FSTYPE,MODEL if the partititon labeled hassos-data is even there. Something tells me the errors would look different it it weren't though.

half blade
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Starting new .img clone, will see

raven forge
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You can also check the SD Card's partitions on windows with something like MiniTool Partition Wizard, Macorit Disk Partition Expert or NIUBI Partition Editor.

half blade
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Reading done, img has same size yet

toxic cedar
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On average, how long does it take for HA Core to update? I feel like I've been waiting 10+ min.

humble mirage
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Depends on your hardware and install method (HAOS, Container, pip install, etc)

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Somewhere from a few seconds to a few days

toxic cedar
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Lol, running a pi 3 I believe.

humble mirage
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So... that should be in the "few minutes" depending on your install method

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HAOS seems to take longer for some reason, Container is pretty obvious, and Core more so

toxic cedar
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It finally finished. I guess I'm just impatient. -_-

clear blaze
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How to connect an sp530e controller to home assistant

vocal musk
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hi! is possible to have some help here for a crashed HA?

crude inlet
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@vocal musk yes it is possible. You'll need to describe what kind of access you have and find the logs

vocal musk
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wow thanks!

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I have ssh

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I noticed this

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INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.auth] Home Assistant not running, checking cache
ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.api] Error on call http://172.30.32.1:8123/api/core/state: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer
ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.api] Error on call http://172.30.32.1:8123/api/core/state: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer
ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Home Assistant has crashed!

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It was working before

crude inlet
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It was working before making some change?

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Have you started with a full reboot of whatever HA is running on?

vocal musk
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Yes, it’s ha os

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On a nuc

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Tried to reboot nuc and router with no luck

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This might help

humble scaffoldBOT
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@vocal musk I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

icy arrow
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Hello!

I recently moved to another house and with the new network, the IP-range changed.
It seems that i cannot find where to change the ip-address.
Home Assistans is running on a NUC with Proxmox. I can acces my HA with homeassistant.local

half blade
humble scaffoldBOT
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Open your Home Assistant instance and manage your systems network configuration

raven forge
icy arrow
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It was set to automatic, so it was already working. But i had plugged it in my laptop and not in my router...

vocal musk
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2 days without HA, Home is like 50% functional, my wife is in boss mode. please help 🙂

humble mirage
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2 days without HA, Home is like 50%

acoustic laurel
raven forge
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Try if it happens in a different browser as well.

acoustic laurel
raven forge
acoustic laurel
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yup, known but likely not going to be fixed any time soon

rich mantle
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When installing HA on a Pi. How much data will be written to the SD card on the long run when you move storage within ha settings to an actual ssd?

humble mirage
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Very little

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The OS lives there, so still some, but nowhere near as much as before

rich mantle
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Good to know, thanks :). I usually move the entire OS to the SSD. Not sure if I should do the same with HA, or just migrate to the SSD from the settings.

humble mirage
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I'd move the whole thing, but that'd require a re-install and restoring a backup

rich mantle
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👍 Last time I did so from my other pi, the backup was still "restoring", which I let it for over 24 hours. No progress bar (couldn't call the progress command without a screen), so had to cancel it.

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Would be nice if there was some kind of progress bar though.

teal rapids
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is it ok to upgrade to 2024.4 while in safe mode? it's not doing the update, just restarting back to 2024.3.x every time i try it

tender wren
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No. You should fix the issue causing the reverting first.

humble mirage
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Dude... the reply was very clearly not for you

torn slate
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🫠

humble mirage
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Your question was in the right channel, because vibration sensors have nothing to do with installing HA

torn slate
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Sorry i’ll see myself out

paper tendon
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HI, Im new to this server 🙂 can someone please help me with my HA? i have hassos installed as a vm in unraid but the last update (2024.4.0) i cant get it started anymore, im not able to reach it from ip:8123. cli is starting and observer is all good. i ofcourse managed to screw up my backups when moving over to my new server and the share got deleted/ turned off :/ . Trying in here as this might be the right channel

quick hornet
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I've installed the general x86 image on a nuc and find that the os doesn't respond to the physical power button on the case being pressed by shutting down, is this something which can be configured?

oak fjord
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Hey everyone! I hope I'm writing in the right channel, I wanted to ask to some good souls in here for some help. I have changed my router at home, my home assistant is in a rpi, wired to the last router and wired to the new one as well. In the previous router, the IP was static and it was 192.168.0... on the new router I can still assign a static IP but it can only be 192.168.68.... I have duckdns with https configured on my ha, but I can't access it after restarting it and port forwarding the 8123 port on tcp and udp and 443 on tcp. What could I do to get back the home assistant once again? 🙏

tender wren
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One way (likely the easiest one) would be to access the PI with a display and keyboard and set it to use DHCP (temporarily)

oak fjord
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Hi Jorg! Sorry, how do I set the DHCP from the pi? I didn't mention that I'm very new to ha 😅

raven forge
tender wren
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You connect a display and a keyboard to your Pi and run network info.
There should be something like interface: end0 - you need the part behind interface (here end0).
Next command would be
network update end0 --ipv4-method auto --ipv6-method auto
(replace end0 by the thing, you found earlier).
If you connect the Pi to the new router, you should get an IP address via DHCP now.

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Via the UI you can set the new settings as you like later.

oak fjord
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Thank you Impact and Jorg! Hmm from network info I can see that, for this interface, both methods are set to auto already, in ipv4 and IPv6. Do I still have to run the update command?

tender wren
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It doesn't harm, but shouldn't be necessary

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Did you set the old IP address in your router via address reservation?

oak fjord
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In the old router I could set up the address of the pi to 192.168.0... but in the new router I can only set it to 192.168.68... so I can't set it to the same IP address

tender wren
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Yes, but where have you set the IP address for the Pi. In your router or in HA?

oak fjord
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Oh sorry, I have set it to be static in the router, I don't remember to be honest having set the IP address in the HA

tender wren
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If you set it in your router, you can just plug it into the new one

quick hornet
raven forge
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No.

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Just try pressing the button 3s or so. Maybe 5 at most.

quick hornet
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interesting, i didn't know acpi had a long press capability

gilded pewter
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Heya i bought a usb webcam. I have debian linux libvirt haos and passing trough the usb isnt reliable with ffmpeg what is a other good way to get the video steam in ha

oak fjord
paper forge
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Hi guys, anyone ever had an issue with sonoff and mqtt not finding any device at all ?

cursive plank
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Does anyone else use a “development” environment for HA? And a “production” environment?

humble mirage
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Many people do, what's the question?

fair hatch
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Was sent here with my issue:

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Hello! I was trying to set a static IP for my Home Assistant server.
First i tried using the default one that pops up when clicking «static» on ipv4. Could not Connect to the IP.

Fair enough i have remote access remotly through the nabu casa service, so i just connect via that and took a reboot. Still not working after reboot, tried looking more into my routers IP range and try to set it to 192.168.68.xxx.

But then i cant connect to it form either IP or through nabu casa. It is still online as i can see it through the router, and the network port on the HA pc is blinking.

I panic and try to restart the HA pc by holding the power button. When i turn it on again it is no longer detected by the router nor is the Ethernet lights blinking.

Now i am really scared that i fucked something up, what should i do?

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So i connected a keyboard and monitor. And everything looks fine except it has no internet connection. Is it away i can set the ip back to dynamic to see if that helps?

tender wren
steady cairn
humble mirage
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HAOS can't be run as a container 😉

steady cairn
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I am using this image, and it runs pretty good
ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant

humble mirage
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That's not HAOS 😉

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That's just HA (Core), HAOS is the whole thing with an operating system, add-ons, etc

oak fjord
empty bloom
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what does the new router list as the IP?

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most likely, you didn't set up port forwarding for your new router to the new IP, duckdns is running and so is your proxy

tender wren
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And is your PC/mobile connected to the new router as well?

oak fjord
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Yes my mobile is connected the same wifi, I have opened the ports 8123 tcp/udp and 443 tcp on the home assistant IP address

tender wren
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Have you set up https in your configuration.yaml?

cursive plank
viral pebble
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I have - Systemd Journal issues with my HA Supervised install. I've had it for a couple of years, but want to clean everything I can. I went through the steps to resolve this and am now at running the installer for HA supervised. Just for planning, will I need to restore HA from a backup after doing this, or will it just update the package, but be able to keep the established data? I have a backup and don't mind restoring, but it will take some time and I just want to plan

humble mirage
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No, you won't have to restore

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Though planning a move to HAOS would be smart

ember basin
humble mirage
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There's no console for HA

ember basin
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yeah uhm how it's called

humble mirage
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venv?

ember basin
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yeah thanks

humble mirage
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Google diet pi homeassistant venv

ember basin
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yeah

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I am googling from a bit

humble mirage
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First hit is the DietPi forum telling you where it is

ember basin
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ah

humble mirage
ember basin
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weird

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I was using "env" as keyword anyways

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maybe that mattered

humble mirage
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Yes

ember basin
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thanks you once again

viral pebble
# humble mirage Though planning a move to HAOS would be smart

I have considered moving to HAOS, but not sure if I can with how I have this computer setup. I have 3 drives, a boot SSD with Debian 11 and HA on it, a 1 TB drive and a 6TB drive. The 1 TB is for video storage from Frigate and the 6TB is used for storage for Plex, backups, and NAS.

humble mirage
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VM for HAOS, problem solved

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It is that simple

viral pebble
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Run it in a VM on Debian? What are the benefits over supervised? Still need to maintain the host. Would it add complications being in a VM with i/o inputs or networking? If I could use my drives how I want with HAOS and find a good addon for a NAS I could use HAOS. I moved all other services like plex to the HA addon version.

tender wren
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The VM is less likely to cause trouble than a Supervised abomination

oak fjord
tender wren
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In that case you have to use https://... instead on http://

oak fjord
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I did, but still no luck

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Is there any configuration anywhere else by any chance where the old IP address would be stored and needs to be changed to the new one assigned by the new router?

spice raft
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I'm looking at getting a few Fire HD tablets for the front end. I am running POE through my house during renovations for APs and security. Is it recommended to run a POE for tablet front end devices or is a 120v recessed + wifi generally working fine?

oak fjord
tender wren
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Then DuckDNS is set to the IP of your old router.

oak fjord
tender wren
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I'm not using DuckDNS

cursive plank
oak fjord
cursive plank
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if i already have remote access from cloudflair, could i get from cloudflair?

humble mirage
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Probably, if they offer that, but ZeroSSL and LetsEncrypt are free

cursive plank
humble mirage
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Just automate that 😉

cursive plank
tired willow
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I'm having a problem that says "Dockerd localhost 127.0.0.1 connection refused" and with this error I can't do anything, start or install addons, integrations, anything

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And when I restart the machine it tries to connect but it gives another problem "Container connection runtime" and it doesn't start

grand pivot
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is that really an HAOS installation?

tired willow
grand pivot
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I suggest making a backup, getting it out of the VM, and just spinning up another HAOS VM

tired willow
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I used it for a few months and only now did I have this problem

grand pivot
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you can also try the commands that I gave you earlier from the VM console

tired willow
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I'll try the backup and see if it solves the problem

humble mirage
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do tell 😉

short python
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i hope this is the righ channel to ask about tailscale AND ha

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tailscale serve 8123
Available within your tailnet:

https://testtest.taild0b6b.ts.net/
|-- proxy http://127.0.0.1:8123

All my other docker run web ui ports are opening fine but HA i get 400: Bad Request when i visit the link.

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do we need to do some other work to get this working . I usually use cloudflare tunnel but i was hoping to try tailscale this time

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if this is not the right channel, my apologies. please advice the right channel to post this

craggy edge
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trying to install on a rpi 3 on a fresh 32gb sd card. installation is stuck with multiple rounds of this error:

[supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retrying in 30sec
[supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2024.4.1
[supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant with tag 2024.4.1.
[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2024.4.1: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2024.4.1/json: Not Found ("No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2024.4.1")
digital crystal
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howdy - I've been running HA via docker quite successfully for months. I'm moving everything to a new server and the web UI works great, but the IOS app for HA is not liking something when I add the new server address: "The operation couldn't be complete. No space left on device". I assume it's a file permission though I've matched all the permissions as best I can from the previous install. Is this error thrown by the inability to write to the .db or the a .log file or similar?

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I like that there is a "use anyway" option 🙂 Seems to write .logs .db fine though.

open ibex
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flubbed my configuration.yaml and cant get into the web interface. I know what to change back, and have video/kb to the machine, but its not a shell like I expected. Can I nano/vim this file from here?

tender wren
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You can type login to get a full console. Your configuration.yaml should be in /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant

open ibex
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looks like that got me there, but there doesnt seem to be nano, vim or emacs installed to hassio

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is there a text editor? cant seem to use apt

tender wren
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vi

open ibex
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vi is definitely one of the choices of all time

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looks like I got it going, lets see if I'm successful

open ibex
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yikes, well I got it working but it was my own dumbness

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nginx didnt start on boot for some reason and I had a heck of a time getting back in

lean marsh
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Good evening folks, I hope everyone had a good day. I got a new AT&T modem 2 weeks ago and I have not been able to get my home assistant back online. I have Decp X55 mesh network so the radios in the AT&T modem are turned off. It says "Could not connect to the server". Error code: NSURLErrorDomain-1004.nPlease help.

lilac trench
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Hi. I'm trying to move from my Rpi4 over to a bare-metal x86 install but cannot connect to the management port on the new install, only the observer port. I see many others have come across this, what is the usual fix?

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Seems to have something with IPV6 from what I can tell. I can't SSH to the machine and the HASSOS seems so bare that I can't work directly on the machine via CLI

lilac trench
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nm - I just reinstalled, looks like the image had issues, new one came up straight away

worthy grail
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is it possible to install HAOS on Windows on Wifi?

crude inlet
grand pivot
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And bridging WiFi networking isn't really supported, so you'll probably have a bad time

crude inlet
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Yeah This needs to be running all the time. Magical bridged WiFi won’t be there for you

worthy grail
placid sage
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im using a raspi 5 connected to my monitor
its gone to the page with the pixelated home assistant logo with text
when i put https://homeassistant.local:8123 into my browser it doesnt work
on my wifi router settings it does not come up on the ethernet section
plz help

raven forge
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Please show what ha network info and ha supervisor logs says. Also try the ip rather than .local.
Is it connected via a network cable?

remote tapir
frail ravine
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Hi all. I've been using Home Assistant for a while in a vm on a Proxmox machine. I recently decided to move it to a dedicated machine (Apple Mac Mini - dual core 8GB ram and 256GB SSD drive plus a 500GB spinning drive). I ran the Belena Etcher process to put the install onto a USB drive and booted to it. I have moved the data to the 256 GB drive and tried to remove the usb drive but the system crashes. What is still on the usb and how do i move that too? I do not want to keep the USB drive in the machine.

humble mirage
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The USB isn't an installer, it's where you installed HAOS

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The data disk move moves the data not the OS

frail ravine
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Thank makes sense... so i need to reinstall it onto the SSD

humble mirage
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If you want to run entirely off of it, yes

frail ravine
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THanks... I'm organising the usb's now.

frail ravine
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Process done. Now restoring the backup. Thanks guys!!

placid sage
humble scaffoldBOT
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@cobalt wyvern I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

placid sage
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When I look at the SD with HAOS on it comes up with lots of different drive types and says they need formatting when I click on them.

cobalt wyvern
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Hey guys,
I am trying to setup homeassistant with a docker-compose.yaml configuration file and docker-compose. When I open the endpoint in my browser localhost:8123 there is no login popup. I just have a simple image of the text "Home Assistant" centered on the page at the top.

I uploaded my docker-compose.yaml to pastebin.
https://pastebin.com/MugFba9T

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If anyone could help me out with docker-compose I'd appreciate it.

humble mirage
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Check the container logs

cobalt wyvern
signal zealot
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Hello. After update today HAOS is showing me:

Unsupported system - virtualization_image
System is unsupported due to virtualization_image. Use the link to learn more and how to fix this.
"Learn more" link opens https://www.home-assistant.io/more-info/unsupported/virtualization_image which is non-existent.
Any tips where should I start looking? Installed as VM in QEMU using generic-x86-64 few months ago, previously with no such warnings.

raven forge
craggy edge
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hi, can anyone help me?

why does fresh installation of home assistant using 32gb sd class 10 card, raspberry pi card formatter tool and rpi3 as target device end up with this error during installation:
ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2024.04.0: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2024.04.0/json: Not Found ("No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2024.04.0")

is the installation media for rpi 3 broken?

raven forge
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Is an ethernet cable plugged in?

signal zealot
raven forge
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Yep.

craggy edge
wary linden
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I'm running a VM on ESXi. My default disk is 98% full. I have 16GB of backups. I setup a backup location that is a NAS using SMB. From the HA Terminal, I rsynced all the files over and left the original ones in the ~/backup location. I have restarted HA and I'm not seeing anything listed in the backup list now? I have restarted HA and even rebooted the OS more than once. I verified that SMB is working and had it create a full backup on the backup page. I see that a new tar file was created on the share, but the backup list in HA is still blank. I have had it list the backups a few time intermittently and it will show the data volume and the shared drive as a source for the files in the list, but eventually everything disappears. Reload on the backup screen context menu doesn't seem to make a difference either.

I'm trying to move everything to the network share instead of local, but don't want to delete the local copies until I know it's good.

robust condor
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Hello - I need to download the haos .img for a rpi4 due to some issues with raspberry pi imager, but I can't locate the image or a .gz. I think it used to be on the Installation page when I did this a few years ago, but seems to have been moved. Does anyone know where I can locate this?

robust condor
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Perfect, thanks!

wild gorge
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Evening I upgraded from 2024.4.0 to 2024.4.2 and now HA wont start. Docker logs is showing exec /init: exec format error

During docker pull it was extremely slow, normally takes 2-3 minutes and looking at top it showed some kworker at 100% and when the pull finished about 15 minutes later I couldnt get the new container started or my Pi rebooted. I had to pull the power on it.

Running on RapsPi 4 Bullseye 64bit Kernel 32bit userland.

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I just reverted to 2024.4.0 in my docker compose and it starts up fine. So there is defo an issues between 2024.4.0 and 2024.4.2

humble mirage
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What exact image are you pulling?

red zephyr
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Hii everyone! I really need some help..

My homeassistant instalation won‘t start anymore. I think it did an update(?) and froze.. after restarting, the only thing I see is „(WARN) Home Assistant CLI not starting! Jump into emergency console..“

I have already tried „login“ and other stuff that I found on the forum

My Home Assistant is running inside VirtualBox on a mac mini

And also, when I type in the „ha“ command, the error message „Error response from daemon: Container 910ff3….. is not running“ appears

wild gorge
wary linden
rich mantle
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Small Q. I formatted my HA and installed HAOS on my pi. I've previously set the recorder to a SQL database, but when I re-added the sql info on the new HA installation, it's not using any of the previous data. Anyway I can solve this?

remote tapir
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👍

cerulean hatch
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im not sure if this is the best place for this/these questions, but basically im trying to figure out the best way to access my configuration.yaml. i am using unraid, and used to use a homeassistant core docker container, but rain into issues long ago and actually gave up on HA for a couple years. last night i installed home assistant in a vm and have it running etc... im wanting to set up my schlage camelot zwave locks and googled and found suggestions on redit for using Keymaster. im working through the instructions on their github and its needing me to add some lines to configuration.yaml but im not sure how to access it now that im not longer using it in docker

cerulean hatch
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ah nevermind. buddy suggested studio code server addon

humble mirage
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That's quite RAM hungry

fickle plover
raven forge
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Not really the terminal you want to use for this though.

copper nymph
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I got my HA downloaded on a thumbdrive and plugged that into a PC. HA runs. Have command line, have access to the observer URL. I cannot get into my HA at get it set up.

humble mirage
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How are you trying to "get" to it?

copper nymph
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the ha.local:8123 url, the PCs ip:8123 even tried the 172 IP. have not used it before. rebooted through console, updated the os and network through console. I am not super informative on console, but I been trying to figure out the help meue as well as google. Not much help, just others with the same problem. I have used edge on my PC and phone. Firefox cant find jack on my steamdeck.

humble mirage
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Sounds like it's time to check the various logs to see what's going on with the install. Somebody else will have to guide you through that though.

copper nymph
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I have been trying to pull up the logs. It supposed to be under info and when I type it out. HA post error.
Out of how many times I start with HA. I have very few installs that haven't been nothing but problems.

raven forge
copper nymph
raven forge
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Why not? The usual? Try the ip instead.

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

copper nymph
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Observer is the only thing that works and it says everything is green.

neat heron
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Hello, could someone assist with changing the HACS download folder? It always prompts "When downloaded, this will be located in '/config/www/...'", instead I would like it to automatically use '/opt/homeassistant/www/...'

crude inlet
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You are only using Ubuntu as a tool in those instructions

copper nymph
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Imma just use imma try etcher to flash the target drive and that was 1,000 times faster than the usb. Ill throw the new install media in afterwhile

crude inlet
copper nymph
frigid echo
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Hello Everyone. I am not somewhat new to HA as I messed with it before. I will install HA on proxmox and I wanted to know whats the best usb dongle the handles zwave/zigbee?

tender wren
frigid echo
west stag
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Hello, I got a Pi4 running home assistant, from a person i do not have contact with anymore. but it is severely outdated (currently its running version 0.118.4) i see no update feature within the UI and i only have minimal knowledge about SSH part of this. i have tried some things i saw with basic google searches but couldnt find anything that worked (snap, ha, docker hassio, all command not found)

any help would be greatly appreciated
(edited to add more info)
System Health

Home Assistant Core Integration

version: 0.118.4
installation_type: Home Assistant Core
dev: false
hassio: false
docker: false
virtualenv: true
python_version: 3.8.0
os_name: Linux
os_version: 5.4.83-v7l+
arch: armv7l
timezone: US/Eastern

Lovelace

dashboards: 2
mode: storage
views: 1
resources: 0

viscid sigil
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Yikes! That's a 4 year old release. How much are you doing with this install? And how much do you know about home assistant? You might be better off starting from scratch.

grand pivot
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Start over for sure

west stag
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oof ok i have had this pi since October and have been working with it. no other HA experience. i found a way to update but it is having an error when its updating

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the guy i got this from has a bunch of scripts, and automations i dont want to lose if i had to do a fresh install.

what this pi4 with Home assistant is controlling is, the defrost cycle on an old freezer, a humidifier, dehumidifier, turning on the freezer to maintain proper temps. it also has some breakout cells that are no longer in use.

cinder marsh
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But maybe you can go to an old HAOS version to restore instead of supervised

west stag
west stag
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well i backed it up and am starting over. day or two of troubleshooting is ahead of me. hope i didn't mess it up to bad

west stag
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It was then... he realized he messed up

got an invalid config error for the following integrations :
Recorder
statics.sensor
filter.sensor
history_stats.sensor
logbook
history
updater

humble mirage
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Check the log file

west stag
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it looks like they are all due to setup failed for recorder: integration failed to initialize

humble mirage
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Right, and why?

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The log tells you

west stag
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Error during connection setup: (psycopg2.OperationalError) connection to server on socket "/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5432" failed: No such file or directory Is the server running locally and accepting connections on that socket? (Background on this error at: https://sqlalche.me/e/20/e3q8)

humble mirage
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There you go

west stag
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sorry im not very good at these things so takes me minute

humble mirage
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Your PostgreSQL database isn't responding on the same IP/hostname as it was before

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Unless you need Postgres for some reason then switch back to the default SQLite

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(you almost certainly don't need it, unless you're a DBA, and even not then probably)

west stag
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so just go into the config and change it to sqlite://homeassistant

humble mirage
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Just comment out the db_url line

west stag
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ok thanks lets reboot and pray lol

humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
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Run that after changing YAML and before restarting

west stag
sharp tangle
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Hello, my power went out this morning and my SD won't mount on my Pi 4. I am reinstalling on an SSD.

My backup is like 8 months old so I'm trying to find the files needed on this SD. Which files are needed? Just the entire supervisor folder?

crude inlet
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So you want that one for sure, including all hidden files and directories. The others within supervisor, such as /ssl, /share, /media, /addon-configs, will depend on if those were in use

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But in general, yes, all of those

sharp tangle
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And using a Linux system can I just use a USB stick to copy? What do you recommend?

crude inlet
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Using a linux pc you can access those easily, yes. Using Windows or MacOS will require something that can read the extfs partitions

sharp tangle
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I'll give it a whirl really appreciate it @crude inlet

crude inlet
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there are a number of partitions on the SD and the one you want should appear as haos-data

sharp tangle
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Yep! I'm in.

crude inlet
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actually I forget, is it haos-data or hassos 🤔

sharp tangle
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hassos-data/supervisor/homeassistant

hushed tusk
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Not sure if this is where I need to ask, but how do you add both an android and an apple phone where it picks up if you are home or away?

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does someone have an install guide or video, I tried adding my android and when I set up the automation to lock the door when I leave. It works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't not sure if its the way I have set it up or not

raven forge
hushed tusk
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thank you

valid arch
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I'm installing HA onto bare metal x86 (Micro PC). How can I be sure that the full SSD is available for use for HA? I followed Method 1 for the x86 install.

valid arch
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nm, found it via cli. ty

hushed fern
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hi, just installed HAOS on a VM. I'd like to know which partition should I extend to be sure I will not have space problem. I mean the partition with database, addon, etc... or will the partition auto-extend on 1st boot ?

valid arch
hushed fern
valid arch
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What is the current size of it?

hushed fern
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1.3 Gb

valid arch
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yea, I would. 50G should be fine.

hushed fern
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resize in progress 🙂 tx

valid arch
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I'm assuming you're doing the full supervised HAOS right?

hushed fern
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yes

valid arch
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yep, 50G should be good. I just xferred away from HA in a VM. Just couldn't get my USB stick to stay stable for USB passthrough in XCP-NG

hushed fern
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for myself, moving from a docker "test" configuration to a more production env with a full VM

valid arch
hushed fern
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much more easy for update in stead of manage docker container

valid arch
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yep, plus EASY backups

hushed fern
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hmm. disk is not bootable after reboot. what should I've missed ?

valid arch
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I'm not sure. This was a new install right?

hushed fern
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yes a fresh one. just followed the tutorial but after restoring the img, there is no special step except reboot

valid arch
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hmmm... yea, following method 1, my used space was 6GB.

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Which hypervisor are you using?

hushed fern
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vmware

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oops forget to remove secure boot I think need to find option now 🙂

valid arch
hushed fern
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EFI enabled and secure boot disable and voila !

hushed fern
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shout victory too early. Now I'm stuck on the boot at "Waiting for root device PARTUUID0=...." it's more than 20 minutes.

valid arch
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Yea. After 5 minutes, I’d just use the OVA. I don’t have the patience.

hushed fern
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haven't seen the OVa option :(. will try this tomorrow. to late for this night now ! tx

smoky coral
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Did "os update" via the CLI to 12.2, it was "successful".
The VM then rebooted and auto selects "Slot B" with "unknown filesystem".
So I go back to "Slot A" - it boots 12.1 i.e. no update.

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Anyone got any ideas?

smoky coral
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am I the only "lucky" person to have that happen?

raven forge
vale thicket
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Hello peeps, I've been following this guide:
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/windows
I've downloaded Oracle's Virtual Box version 7.0.14

I've got to the point where I need to boot the VM via the drive I've downloaded, but as soon as I do I am getting a message telling me that it failed to boot and is missing an OS 🤔
Has anything changed for Virtual Box 7?

raven forge
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Please share a screenshot of what you see and the VM's configuration

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

vale thicket
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Ah... imgur. I don't have an account 🤔

raven forge
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Read the message above yours.

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You don't need one. Just click the prominent New post button.

vale thicket
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Tells me to whitelist them on my adblock XD

raven forge
vale thicket
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Sucks or not, it does not need me to disable adblock >_>

raven forge
vale thicket
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Ok, sorry. Will do

vale thicket
raven forge
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You're blocking something that's required to post that you could unblock. Doesn't matter at the moment.
Is it possible you enabled secure boot under System?

vale thicket
raven forge
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This picture is tiny. Disable secure boot.

vale thicket
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It was disabled 🤔

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I've re-disabled it and still same message

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I've managed to get to EFI shell 🤔 But I am not sure what I can do to proceed from here

raven forge
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What is Automation.vdi? That should say something like haos_ova-12.2.vdi and be 32GB.

vale thicket
raven forge
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You should have imported the HAOS vdi, not created one. What would it boot off of an empty disk?

vale thicket
raven forge
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Yes, just how the docs describe it.

vale thicket
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Yeah, that's what I've done 🤔
I'll try to re-create it

raven forge
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You can just attach it as disk but yeah that also works.

vale thicket
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Guess me trying to see the options in "Expert Mode" to try and see the "Network Settings" during setup and not after I've already created the box messed up the drive

raven forge
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Btw as you can see it says 32GB, your disk says 8GB.

vale thicket
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Thanks

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Thanks a lot 🙂 That helped and is now running. Appreciate it

raven forge
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After re-reading the conversation to check for typos I feel like I've come off kind of aggressive. That was not my intent. Glad you got it working.

fallow kayak
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hi all

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im having alot of issues

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it keeps saying cant read configorations error -32

terse lark
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Hey everybody - can't wait to get started automating!!!

I have an esp wroom 32 and I'm looking to set up multiple temperature and humidity sensors.

I'm using a windos laptop, downloaded virtual box and have home assistant running on the vm.

I've logged into HomeAssistant.local and added ESPhome add on
- When I ues ESPhome - it finds my USB connected esp but when I hit prepare for first use - it just spins
- When I choose to prepare for first use, it just spins indicating "connecting"

I'm thinking I missed a step or followed directions wrong for getting it set up.

placid burrow
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Did you set up the VM's network in Virtualbox as NAT, Bridge, or something else?

terse lark
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under network - it has ethernet and wireless as the separate options

terse lark
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I have it set as bridged adapter

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I don't see the device under my network - I'm guessing I don't have it assigned to the right port, maybe?

vale thicket
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So I'm finished with installation, but I am having trouble achieving what I actually want to once Home Assistant is working. Is there any tutorials somewhere on the various common integrations? How to use this etc...?
The integrations channel seems to be rather dead and there's no "Help" channel 😦

I've been told that Home Assistant can emulate "Apple Home" but I am yet to see any way to actually do it

grand pivot
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It's called 'HomeKit'

vale thicket
# grand pivot It's called 'HomeKit'

Theres 2:

  1. HomeKit Bridge
  2. HomeKit Device

The first option simply allows me to use devices already connected to Home Assistant on the Apple Home app on the phone.
And option 2 does nothing 🤔

I get the following dialogue box:

HomeKit Device communicates over the local area network using a secure encrypted connection without a separate HomeKit Controller or iCloud. Select the device you want to pair with:

Device

HASS Bridge KM 7734B5 (Bridge)```

And when I press "Submit" it just spins there with this dialogue box indefinitely
grand pivot
vale thicket
grand pivot
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Cross posting won't endear you to folks here

vale thicket
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I am.... Ok I get it. I were just hoping to get "An answer" or anything 🤔
Sorry, I will stop posting here....

crisp iron
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just installed latest update on HA, lots of integrations broken, can't restart from frontend. How can I force a restart?

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or perhaps how do I roll back an update?

vale thicket
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I were told this is the right place to ask (Unless it's in #hardware-archived ). I need Bluetooth to work on my setup.
I've completed the set up using the Virtual Box HASS drive thingy
(Impact has kindly assisted in getting it sorted in these messages:
#installation-archived message)

I've now added a bluetooth dongle to the device I run the VM on and it is seen on the windows machine. The windows OS can use the dongle just fine:
https://i.postimg.cc/wB2tsLq2/image-2024-04-13-221903192.png

And I think I I've made it so that Virtual box passes the USB adapter to the VM in settings?
https://i.postimg.cc/8c9N6Pft/image-2024-04-13-220751757.png

But for some reason when going into "Integrations" in home assist it tells me that there's 0 devices to use 🤔

Can somebody please help me get the bluetooth working with Home Assistant?
Or is this the wrong place to ask about it?

EDIT:
Solved:
#installation-archived message

tough ember
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Hello I have a problem I want to access the url http://homeassistant.local:8123 except it doesn't work and I even did with my IP and its also doesn't want to

Could someone help me would be really awesome and cool of you

vale thicket
tough ember
vale thicket
vale thicket
tough ember
vale thicket
vale thicket
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Doesn't look like the VM got an IP - Can you show me your VM network adapter settings?

vale thicket
# tough ember yes https://imgur.com/a/tmUpMNY

The guide said that Wi-Fi is not going to work. You'll need ethernet.
I assume it says that the mode of access is access point - Not bridge.
What can be selected in the top drop down menu?
And what options have you got in "Advanced"?

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Ah no, translating it says "Bridge Access". My bad

tough ember
vale thicket
tough ember
vale thicket
tough ember
vale thicket
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I don't believe you'll have a problem 🙂 But sure. Will do my best

tough ember
vale thicket
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I think it's best to keep the conversation here so it's available for others to see

neon wave
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I try to move Home Assistant from Computer A to Computer B.
I have copied all files + done the docker save command. I have run docker load and pasted all files and started up the container. But it gives error on the MySQL database. Is this stored another place? And the HA does not load up with a webpage. Can someone help me with some ideas where to start?

raven forge
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Use the backup and restore functionality.

neon wave
raven forge
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If you use docker standalone directly copy the config directory.

neon wave
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yeah i could use this if the home assistant webpage started 🙂

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I use docker standalone yes.

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Copied all files.

raven forge
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Don't forget the hidden ones. What error are you getting?

neon wave
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loads of messages refering to file /usr/local/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqllchemy/engine/base.by line 3233 in begin with self.connect ...

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

neon wave
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This comes AFTER it says error (recorder) Homeassistant.components.recover.core - Error during conenction setup (mysqldb.operationalError) (2002, cant connect to server on ip x.x.x.x (115)

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i thought pull would install mysql for me on the new vm

raven forge
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I'm missing a lot of information. Can you share your compose file and the mentioned logs? Perhaps also some information about your setup.

neon wave
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i think the problem is that i dont have mysql installed

raven forge
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🤷

neon wave
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config file for mysql says it should be on /var/lib/mysql

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there is nothing

grand pivot
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You're using a container. That is not the problem

neon wave
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yeah thats why i though a easy copy paste would be enough for this.

raven forge
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We can't help unless you provide more information. More variables are not helpful.

neon wave
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OMG! ..

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I found the failure

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@raven forge - User error.. i changed ip on the host.. the host didnt registered the IP before deactivation of the network card and reactivated it

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Works now

raven forge
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Use the docker hostname 🙂

neon wave
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thanks for your attention though

raven forge
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Out of curiosity, is there a particular reason you use MySQL for HA?

neon wave
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well. Didnt they change it from mariadb to mysql some versions ago?

grand pivot
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The default has always been sqlite

neon wave
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I am not sure why i have it. There was an upgrade once and i just followed on... 🙂

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I am just a simple user on Home Assistant - my skill levels are barely enough to run it. Converted from physical host to vm now atleast 🙂

grand pivot
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Then you just be using the default sqlite database

raven forge
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I'd suggest SQLite then. MySQL/MariaDB would just be one more dependency you have to take care of.

neon wave
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in the custom.cnf file under mariadb it says " the mysql database server configuration file"

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yeah, then i need to learn how to change 😄

grand pivot
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It's as simple as getting rid of the MySQL stuff that you put under recorder:

neon wave
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Here is the definition i have. I have seen the recorder line in guides.. but i dont have this in my configuration.yaml
https://dpaste.org/PYijd

raven forge
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HA shouldn't use MySQL then. Try keep it stopped and see what happens if you start HA.

neon wave
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i havent install mysql myself yet on the new vm

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as i said.. i thought it would be automatically pulled within the container

grand pivot
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If you choose to use a non-default database, it's up to you to manage it

neon wave
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Yeah, no i prefer to run as stock as possible for easier life

tender wren
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That is not HA installation related. The ESPHome Discord or #diy-archived might be able to help

tough ember
vale thicket
vale thicket
raven forge
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Oh it's about WiFi bridging again.

tough ember
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yes

tough ember
tough ember
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So you think it's coming from where the problem comes from

raven forge
vale thicket
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Try rebooting the VM

raven forge
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Maybe I'm mixing it up with someone else. Kinda hard to keep track of all the conversations if they are all so similar.

tough ember
vale thicket
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Based on screenshot you're still using wifi

raven forge
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The modem might not give out DHCP ips. What does your networking setup look like?

tough ember
raven forge
vale thicket
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Change the VM settings to use the ethernet port

tough ember
raven forge
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Click the Name dropdown and select your network that has the cable in it.

vale thicket
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You chose the Real tech one right?

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And made it a bridge

tough ember
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ok i do it

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@vale thicket

raven forge
vale thicket
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Yup, what Impact said

tough ember
raven forge
vale thicket
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lol

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Can you try it via IP instead of hostname?

tough ember
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ok

raven forge
tough ember
raven forge
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If the ip you get is hide worthy something weird is going on. It should be a local ip.

tough ember
raven forge
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Just show me the first two octets or so of the ip and tell me a bit about your networking setup. You said you're connected to a modem.

tough ember
raven forge
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Yeah that's a local ip. See my wikipedia link. Besides, you forgot to hide it in the middle.

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Can you try ha network info again? Also try if you can reach the observer port.

tough ember
raven forge
tough ember
raven forge
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🤨

vale thicket
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Can you ping the VM IP?

tough ember
vale thicket
# tough ember How I do it

I am not sure you're technical enough to do this project buddy 🤔
Not trying to be rude here, but there's a level of basics you need to know or at least know how to learn

vale thicket
vale thicket
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It's the equivalent of asking "What is a function" when you're trying to write a script....

raven forge
vale thicket
raven forge
vale thicket
tough ember
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ok

vale thicket
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You need access to 192.168.0.15 on port 8123

tough ember
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ok

vale thicket
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Open powershell on your PC (The one you want access to Home Assistant to from) and type:
Test-NetConnection 192.168.0.15 -Port 8123

raven forge
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The observer port is 4357. If that fails you don't even have to look at core logs.

tough ember
vale thicket
tough ember
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It's not better if I do it on Raspberry

raven forge
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You tried that already earlier. Try replacing 8123 with 4357.

vale thicket
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Try what Impact has said. And if that still doesn't work... As I said - Open Powershell and run these two commands:
ipconfig
Test-NetConnection 192.168.0.15 -Port 8123

vale thicket
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You are using HTTPS right? 🤔
Not just typing the ip?

raven forge
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Okay, now we can check the core logs and see why it doesn't respond. Run ha core logs.

vale thicket
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While I'm a network engineer and would like to see the output of the two commands I've asked for. Probably listening to Impact is more helpful 😅

raven forge
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Always good to have a clearer picture with more information. I was just trying to figure out if it's a connectivity issue or a core issue. Just usually doesn't take almost 30 minutes.

raven forge
vale thicket
raven forge
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Hmm I've seen this error before. Not sure by what it's caused though. I can only find a few old issues about it.
Can you do me a favor and enter these two commands in the VM's CLI?

login
cat /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant/.HA_VERSION
raven forge
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We should really thread this.

tough ember
jaunty wyvern
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Is there a way to install Home Assistant on my computer without needing a hub?

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I plan on not using z wave, or zigbee devices

nova flame
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sure, if whatever devices you want to control are all visible on the same network that home assistant is running on (e.g. they're all connected with ethernet or wifi) then you don't need a hub or a radio dongle.

jaunty wyvern
nova flame
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if you have a dedicate pc to use, install home assistant OS on that - otherwise, it would probably make sense to try home assistant os in a virtual machine.

jaunty wyvern
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ok

frail pumice
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Good evening. I have made a change to my configuration file and now HA won't boot up anymore. I'm not able to access the installation as I have not copied my public key to my new mac. So I'm lost here. Is this the right channel to ask for some help on how to get into the configuration yaml file?
I have installed on a raspberry pi 4 and have the files on an external drive connect through usb. I tried connecting that drive directly to the Mac but it doesn't recognize the filesystem.
The change I made was to include a few lines with http: and then a line with fullchain.pem and privkey.pem for the let's encrypt installation with duckdns.

crude inlet
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If you were configuring ssl and then added that configuration, it would no longer be reachable using http:// in your browser. You would have to use https://

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@frail pumice so it could be that nothing is wrong

frail pumice
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geez...

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that was silly

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so it doesn't force https

crude inlet
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It does. Once you add those lines for the pem files, only https works

frail pumice
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oh wow... i was really internally panicking for nothing there

crude inlet
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Well once you add them and restart ha

frail pumice
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I just used https and I'm in, although it said it's not safe

crude inlet
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Yeah it doesn’t matter whether it is valid or not, you still need to use https

frail pumice
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Can I force a normal http request to https as well? so I cannot make this mistake anymore?

crude inlet
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It should be valid for whatever domain you are making use of (duckdns?)

frail pumice
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yes that works without the warning

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cool

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wow you really made my day there

crude inlet
frail pumice
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I just hoped there would be something simple to add as line and then force all http trafic to https. You can do something like that in WordPress.

hardy edge
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hello i have an error i would like to get some help with where do i post it?

crude inlet
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If it’s a short error you can share it here. If it’s more than that you should link to a paste site

hardy edge
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ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86-64-homeassistant:2024.4.3: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.44/images/create?tag=2024.4.3&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fgeneric-x86-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: TLS handshake timeout")
2024-04-14 21:42:51.874 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retrying in 30sec

frail pumice
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Thanks @crude inlet! I'll be off now configuring further.

hardy edge
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realy any help would be great as i am new to this

languid isle
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does anyone know where I can find help for Frigate installation in Home Assistant?

grand pivot
hardy edge
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hello i need help with instaling home assistant on a wyse 3040 dell
[10:13 AM]
becuase it has like 8gb i installed the os on a usb and plugged it in but it gives me this error
[10:13 AM]
ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86-64-homeassistant:2024.4.3: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.44/images/create?tag=2024.4.3&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fgeneric-x86-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: TLS handshake timeout")
2024-04-14 21:42:51.874 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retrying in 30sec

manic bane
hardy edge
strange roost
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Hey team, anyone have any ideas why my home assistant server seems to be accessible via the app but keeps being unreachable by my computer, cant even be pinged, then suddenly returns where I can access it and ping it - using Proxmox and HAOS. It also appears to be disconnecting my matter devices

strange raft
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hi all, this morning my HA appliance has suddenly.....became dead. To clarify, i am using HAOS 12.2. VM boots without issue, but it seems like HA Core is for some reason dead in the water. ive tried spinning up a new appliance and running a restore with multiple backups, and same result. i have backups that run every night at 12am and going back as far as 5 days is a no-go. HA Core is 2024.4.0 right now

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lol, appears to might be back up after updating to 2024.4.3. super weird...

cursive plank
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thoughts on upgrading to MariaDB on an installation of HA? seems a lot of old vidoe's on HA says you should upgrade but curious if its still needed?

crude inlet
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@cursive plank the default db has seen many optimizations and improvements and I don't see the need for mariadb myself (I did use it in the past).

cursive plank
raven forge
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The only benefit I see are the better tools for inspecting your data. Very few need this.

raw hedge
loud vortex
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I'm running Homeassistant on an rpi4, version 2024.4.2. I've tried to upgrade thru the webUI to 2024.4.3 about six times -- each time, it successfully shuts down, but never drops off the network and never completes the upgrade. I end up powercycling the rpi. I am running Home Assistant OS 12.2. Where should I look next?

raw hedge
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logs, power, storage

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worst case is you take your backup and reimage the pi and restore

loud vortex
# raw hedge logs, power, storage

storage indicates that I have about 15 of 32gb free. Power is provided by a genuine raspberryPi powersource (I know these 4s are picky). dmesg doesn't seem like it's complaining of any hardware issues. logs don't have anything that seem SUPER scary -- complaints about localtuya not starting fast enough, snf YP-link smart home not starting rigt. Nothing worse than a warning. is it likely that localtuya is preventing the upgrade?
Home Assistant Supervisor is complaining plenty about docker.manager -- and i don't want to even run docker in this rpi if i can avoid it.

raw hedge
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"Home Assistant Supervisor is complaining plenty about docker.manager" welllll addons are docker containers

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"Home Assistant Supervisor is complaining plenty about docker.manager" what is the complaint?

humble mirage
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Almost certainly that you've skipped past the requirements for that method

lament roost
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Hey, could anyone help me understand installation?

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I have HAOS running on a device and used a usb drive to install it but I never removed the drive because I"m not sure if it was installed on the ext. drive or the devices memory proper

empty bloom
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shut down the system, unplug the usb, start the system up

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no-boot -> it's on the usb

lament roost
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Right that makes perfect sense haha

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I think it actually IS on the usb though... Just checked my HAGUI and according to how much memory is has free...

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I don't remember there being any kind of option to pick which drive to use when I installed it though which is weird

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What does your setup look like?

empty bloom
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My setup is not normal

lament roost
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I want to move the installation and use proxmox (or something) because I want to run pihole and a media server (and maybe reverse proxy) on the same device..

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Honestly it doesn't make sense to me that most of this stuff is not possible (or very difficult) on HAOS proper.. I don't understand if this is due to technical reasons though

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Like... why not have a good media server solution built in to HA? Or an addon to do this... is there some technical bottleneck ?

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Media server seems like a common use that the demographic that uses HA would also use

empty bloom
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it does?

lament roost
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It does have one?

empty bloom
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Yes

lament roost
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What?

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I couldn't find one

empty bloom
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it's the media tab

lament roost
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And I've seen a bunch of people that are like "that';s not what HA is for"

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right but that's not a server

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right?

empty bloom
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you can put media files in it

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it's not going to be plex levels

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but you can get plex as an addon

lament roost
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I don't want to use plex anyways.. i want opensource and transparency as much as possible

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I was thinking jellyfin.. would run it in a container i guess

raven forge
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You shouldn't abuse HAOS as a NAS though. Not everything makes sense to run on HAOS, even if there's an addon for it.

lament roost
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Ok so what's the reason for that?

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Is there some technical reason?

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It just seems to make sense, at least from an organization stand point, to have your media "hub" in your "home hub"

raven forge
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You can't even disable authentication for mosquitto just to name a very simple example. You also can't RAID multiple HDDs or stuff like that. HAOS is a purpose built OS so that's fine. The issue is if you want to use it for things beyond that.

lament roost
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Thanks

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can't disable auth on mos on HA ?

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thats what you mean?

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So HA really doesn't do any of the heavy lifting, it really just integrates disparate techs/brands and provides a frontend for them

raven forge
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I wouldn't say that.

lament roost
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I honestly don't have enough technical expertise to have much of an opinion

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that's sort of half the reason i want to get this stuff working and understand it better

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so were you saying in those messages that using HA barebones would limit some functionality?

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bare metal*

lament roost
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Would my idea to run it on Proxmox so that I can also run pi hole, jellyfin (or similar) etc make sense?

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ok

raven forge
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Your mention of proxmox is why I linked my post about virtualization 🙂

lament roost
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i might just get another device.. I just don't like the idea of multiple devices.. for a bunch of obvous reasons

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but you use small SoC devices then maybe that line of reasoning really doesn't make sense

raven forge
lament roost
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idek if I'm using the mos addon.. was running HA in container and zigbee2mqtt... now I'm running HAOS because I just got sick of not being able to use addons

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people say that addons are just containers... but when i'd look for container options for whatever I wanted to do I would never find them

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so idfk

raven forge
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Let's say you want to host mosquitto on your own as container you 'd just search mosquitto docker.
Same for VS Code Server or other addons.

lament roost
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hmm yeah I have moquitto broker addon enabled/running... zigbee2mqtt addon installed but disabled

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right

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i did get the mosquitto container running ( on the other device)

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and have had other containers workinh

raven forge
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But the point is you can run HAOS and your addons and once they limit you or you're missing something you can run the container on your onw in another VM.

lament roost
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but there would be certain addons that I couldn't find a synonymous container for...

raven forge
lament roost
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i think I ended up throwing up my hands when trying to get ssl working... i DID get ssl working a few years ago without HAOS .. using dehydrated I think... I stopped messing with HA etc for a couple years until just recently

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alright

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so having HAOS running with additional containers makes sense too?

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Honestly it seems like it would... I mean what difference does it make

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I think I'm just gunna install proxmox ve and see what happens

raven forge
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That's the thing. You can't install random containers on HAOS. The thread is above btw.

lament roost
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I've never used a hypervisor so I should try it regardless

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Right

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Ok lemme read that

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you dont use ssl??

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Why?

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it's sort of pointless right

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lol

raven forge
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I don't really need it in my LAN.

lament roost
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but do you use your LAN from the WAN

raven forge
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Rarely and when I do I use tailscale.

lament roost
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i don't fully understand it but it seemed like ssl is the sort of thing you'd really only need for big money enterprise stuff

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or if I was like a mod at the silkroad

raven forge
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Nothing in my home is directly accessible from the internet.

lament roost
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that's secure...

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but you're still using the internet

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so what do you mean, you have a device in the middle? That would mean a reverse proxy right?

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or do you have all your IoT stuff on a seperate LAN network

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I've thought of that... I have an extra decent router

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alright lemme read this

raven forge
lament roost
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thanks i know my friend used this years ago i forget what it is

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kets see

raven forge
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I have CGNAT so this was the next simplest thing to use.

lament roost
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so tailscale is like a DNS for encryption credentials

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("we were like a police department for wiseguys")

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alright I'll ttyl I'm going for a walk while its nice out

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appreciate the help

rigid viper
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Probably the single best networking product I have ever used

cobalt marsh
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Is the docker image working? I just can't seem to connect to it.

raven forge
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What are you talking about?

cobalt marsh
raven forge
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Please share how you started the container and check the container logs.

cobalt marsh
raven forge
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I recommend the compose way but in any case you are supposed to replace those placeholders.

cobalt marsh
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Yes I did that.

raven forge
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Then share the real command. I wanted to see exactly what you did. Also check docker logs homeassistant.

cobalt marsh
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the command:
docker run -d --name ha --privileged --restart=unless-stopped -e TZ=Europe/Stockholm -v /homeassistant/:/config -v /run/dbus:/run/dbus:ro --network=host homeassistant/home-assistant

humble scaffoldBOT
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@cobalt marsh I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

cobalt marsh
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huh so it didn't like the bluetooth thing?

raven forge
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If this is a new install I'd stop it, wipe the config directory (including hidden directories and files) and try again.

cobalt marsh
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roger that

raven forge
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You can start without the d flag to immediately see what happens.

cobalt marsh
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oh shit. Ok now I'm embarrased.

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I opened the wrong port in my firewall 😂

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Sorry for wasting your time.

raven forge
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No problem.

cobalt marsh
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Much appreciated for your help! have a nice [insert time of day]!

dawn sigil
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hello i was installing and trying to get to the ip adress and the ip adress is not even there?

raven forge
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Please run ha network info and show us what it says. Is your device plugged in via a network cable?

dawn sigil
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im running it on a vm but no my pc is not connected with a ethernet cable

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oh

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nevermind

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it says the ip adress is 10.0.2.2 i dont think that is the real ip adress

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yep does not exist

raven forge
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Well it has to get a ip assigned from something. Usually that's via DHCP from a router it's connected into.
HAOS need internet during setup.

dawn sigil
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one second im going to run ipconfig (on my host) to see what ip adress does vitualbox assigned to it

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oh its says media dissconected

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uh

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there is no ip assigned to it at all according to ipconfig

raven forge
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Not a surprise if the PC is not connected anywhere.

dawn sigil
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no like im running the vm on my host (where i am at right now) witch is my main

raven forge
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You said your PC is not connected via ethernet.

dawn sigil
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with wifi

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not nothing

raven forge
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WiFi and virtualization don't mesh well.

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You can try to bridge it but it might not work.

dawn sigil
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thats what im useing

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wait i changed it to use hyper-v ethernet

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still nothing

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wait i looked under advanced and there was a prominscuous mode and i just said to allow all

raven forge
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How would it?

dawn sigil
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still dont know its ip adress

raven forge
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Does your computer have internet right now?

dawn sigil
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yes

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its running discord

raven forge
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Can you show me the VM's network config and your PCs network settings?

dawn sigil
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i cant this channel wont let me send images

dawn sigil
mild oracle
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weird issue after using balena to write directly to an M.2 ssd. local console is too small to read properly. HA is not coming up properly and I cant use the local console to troubleshoot because I cant read it. I can't change the grub config to fix the resolution because the entire filesystem is read only. I wasnt able to locate any similar issues in the forum or in the faq.

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Installing on a 6th gen i3

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NUC

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Might be a nothingburger. When I concluded my efforts last night the web interface was not responding, however I just checked again and it appears to be up so the tiny console does not appear to be a blocking issue anymore at the moment.

dawn sigil
tender wren
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Python 3.10? Looks quit old

dawn sigil
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i tried

tender wren
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Are you trying to install HA with pip?

dawn sigil
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thats what i installed it with ya

tender wren
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The requirement for the present version of HA core is Python 3.12

dawn sigil
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i already tried to upgrade it

grand pivot
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I think you shouldn't be installing HA that way

tender wren
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That depends on the OS shksShrug

dawn sigil
grand pivot
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"did not work" isn't enough

dawn sigil
grand pivot
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but you also have a container install available

dawn sigil
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and.. WSL is a VM

grand pivot
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I suggest not bailing on the easier installation methods to go to a harder one

grand pivot
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🤷

dawn sigil
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now home assistant keeps doing this

File "aiohttp/_http_parser.pyx", line 557, in aiohttp._http_parser.HttpParser.feed_data
aiohttp.http_exceptions.BadStatusLine: 400, message:
Bad status line "Invalid method encountered:\n\n b'\x10X'\n ^"
2024-04-17 13:24:16.736 ERROR (MainThread) [aiohttp.server] Error handling request
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/dev/.local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/aiohttp/web_protocol.py", line 332, in data_received
messages, upgraded, tail = self._request_parser.feed_data(data)
File "aiohttp/_http_parser.pyx", line 557, in aiohttp._http_parser.HttpParser.feed_data
aiohttp.http_exceptions.BadStatusLine: 400, message:
Bad status line "Invalid method encountered:\n\n b'\x10b'\n ^"

tender wren
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Still: unsupported Python version

dawn sigil
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ok so how do i upgrade pip and python?

tender wren
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That depends on the OS used

dawn sigil
#

unbuntu

dawn sigil
dawn sigil
tender wren
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So Ubuntu in WSL

dawn sigil
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yes

tender wren
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And which version of Ubuntu?

dawn sigil
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how do that?

tender wren
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It will not magically resolve by posting that you are using an unsupported Python version 3 times

dawn sigil
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but how do i show the version of unbuntu? i only worked with the desktop based versions

tender wren
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lsb_release -a

dawn sigil
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No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS
Release: 22.04
Codename: jammy

tender wren
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But that might break other stuff

dawn sigil
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ok let me try to do it

tender wren
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Good luck

dawn sigil
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ok no errors

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let me run home assistant

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nope

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still python errors

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wait what command runs home assistant because i ran it useing python3 i dont think it upgraded properly

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oh wait it upgraded

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wait how do i get out of venv

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well.....

ripe bloom
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Hi, my homeassistant doesn't want to log in because of the IP, can anyone help me?

tender wren
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Have you enabled IP banning?

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In the configuration.yaml

ripe bloom
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I had managed to do it on my laptop, now the computer is giving me an error, and I did exactly the same

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sorry about my english, it's not very good

tender wren
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So you added something like this?

http:
  ip_ban_enabled: true
ripe bloom
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no

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I didn't do anything ha

tender wren
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What error do you get?

ripe bloom
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Unable to access this website
Connection to 1.............. was refused.

Try:
Check the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED

tender wren
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And you have not enabled https, right?

ripe bloom
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yes

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From what I understand, the virtual box is not transmitting the IP

tender wren
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In that case you have to use https://<IP of HA>:8123

ripe bloom
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it's what I'm doing

modern basalt
ripe bloom
modern basalt
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"others"? A host can only have one IP. You should know exactly what the IP is if you check on your router. Also try ping homeassistant.local.

ripe bloom
raven forge
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People love that.

modern basalt
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Yeah, I'm done. Cross posting and unsolicited messaging. Best of luck.

ivory rover
dawn sigil
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why in 3 in the morning?

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no one going to respond to you at 3:00 am

tender wren
dawn sigil
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well ya

fiery zephyr
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on pi3

obsidian hinge
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Hi all, I am trying to integrate this repository https://github.com/jekalmin/extended_openai_conversation, however after adding the repository via HACS and restarting the system, I am unable to get the integration "Extended Openai Conversation". Does anybody know why this could be ?

raven forge
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Did you install the integration via HACS or just add the repository to HACS?

obsidian hinge
raven forge
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Did you add the integration via HACS > Integrations and its blue button at the bottom?

obsidian hinge
humble scaffoldBOT
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@obsidian hinge Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

humble mirage
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Probably you ticked Experimental for the HACS options

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(or didn't)

obsidian hinge
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Okay now it works. Out of nowhere. Lol

humble mirage
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That image looks like the new (experimental) view

obsidian hinge
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Did not touch anything, but now works, amazing😅

ripe bloom
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Hi guys all right ?

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Could someone help me with my Vitualbox

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It's giving an error on the IP

humble mirage
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What error?

versed sparrow
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hey all,
just purchase and have tried to set up HA green. Managed to get to the stage where I selected my locality, waited approx 10 mins and when I reopend the application (Android) I was met with the login screen. The credentials I set earlier do not work to login (says user / password not found).
Will I need to perform a factory reset? If so, seeing as I can't enter the UI, will I be able to boot from a Micro SD?

ripe bloom
# humble mirage What error?

Unable to access this website
Connection to 1.............. was refused.

Try:
Check the connection
Checking the proxy and the firewall
ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED

raven forge
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Run ha network info in the VM and share its output and the VM's network config.

ripe bloom
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I'm kind of new to this world, I'm still learning

raven forge
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Double click the VM. You should see a black screen with some information. Enter the command there.

ripe bloom