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toxic bramble
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Many thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for

wanton axle
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Just updated my HA Docker, and getting multiple errors. Is there a way to rollback to previous version just before the latest?

raven forge
wanton axle
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thank you.

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my localtuya fails to connect to some devices

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was working fine before the update

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I'll test further

small folio
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Suppose I wanted to use HASS in docker in bridge mode, is there a comprehensive list of ports I need to expose? Obviously 8123, but after that I can’t seem to find anything that is explicit.

lean lava
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what iam dooing wrong ?

small folio
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Can that host get out to the internet? Post your compose file

humble scaffoldBOT
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@lean lava I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
small folio
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not seeing anything immediate as an issue in the compose. can the host get out to the internet?

lean lava
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how can i check this ?

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portainer running totaly fine

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and the server is connected to lan

small folio
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curl https://www.google.com

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or if you don't want to use google, put in a different site, then post the output (if it's a bunch of HTML just say it instead of posting the html plz lol)

lean lava
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its worked got the html

small folio
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ok, so it's not a reachability issue.

try the compose up again, maybe it was a temp issue with resolution?

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DNS haiku bb

lean lava
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no its the same issue

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again

lean lava
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same issue every try to run home assistant

raven forge
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Does the same happen with the image from the docker hub?
Does networking in general work?

ping 1.1.1.1
nslookup google.com

I kinda expect it because it got the right ip but still.

lean lava
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max@ubuntu:/opt$ ping 1.1.1.1
nslookup google.com
ping: connect: Network is unreachable
Server: 127.0.0.53
Address: 127.0.0.53#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: google.com
Address: 142.251.36.206
Name: google.com
Address: 2a00:1450:4001:810::200e

lean lava
raven forge
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Please validate with the commands I gave you and answer all the questions.

humble scaffoldBOT
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@wild valve I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
grand pivot
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what does that IP address point to?

steel flower
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Is there a way to verify my Pi is actually connected to my wifi network?

steel flower
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Yeah i cannot get my Pi connected wifi with HA. I installed Raspberry Pi OS and it connected no issue. I dont have ethernet but i should be able to set the credentials in the flasher and be fine?

crude inlet
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@steel flower you can do it, but not by using the rpi imager. And it only goes downhill from here if you have no Ethernet option at all. This is a server and not a mobile app. With all the communication that’s going to be happening, the other wireless protocols you are likely to start using, and no physical access to your own network hardware. Does Ethernet actually not exist if only for the initial setup?

placid sage
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Can users not post images? I've spent hours across multiple days trying to set up my home assistant to be reachable over https and I'm getting errors in my configuration.yaml and can't for the life of me figure out why I'm getting a path error after uploading my origin.pem and privkey.pem files from cloudflare. Was hoping I could upload the images of the config file and the error message

crude inlet
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That sounds like it would be easier shared as text

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You can share a link to images. Too many images of text flood these channels otherwise

placid sage
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http:
server_port: 8443
ssl_certificate: /supervisor/homeassistant/origin.pem
ssl_key: /supervisor/homeassistant/privkey.pem

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Configuration errors
Invalid config for 'http' at configuration.yaml, line 15: not a file for dictionary value 'http->ssl_certificate',got'/supervisor/homeassistant/origin.pem'
Invalid config for 'http' at configuration.yaml, line 16: not a file for dictionary value 'http->ssl_key',got'/supervisor/homeassistant/privkey.pem'

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This is for home assistant core running on a VM

grand pivot
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Where did that path come from?

placid sage
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I was looking through files with PowerISO and that seemed to be the path where the standard files were. In home assistant using file editor all it shows is "/homeassistant" and I've tried that along with /config and just about everything else I could find online or think of myself

humble mirage
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That error says that the files don't exist at that location

humble mirage
narrow silo
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So very strange thing happened after a power cut my ha install size is 66gb, can find why, I do run frigate, but that is disabled on reboot and checked the folders

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its normally 33gb

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backup is only 3.1 and restore does not fixe issue, with nas unmounted frigate folders are non existant

wild valve
steel flower
humble mirage
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The 3A isn't supported for HAOS, due to a terminal lack of RAM

placid sage
# humble mirage So... how are you generating ssl certs?

On cloudflare I am going to the SSL/TLS tab and then going to the origin tab. Then I click create which generates the two keys. I go to home assistant file editor and create a new file and paste the first key and then I do it with the second key naming them origin.pem and privacy respectively

humble mirage
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Ok, so those will exist under /config/... wherever under there you put them

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You need to get the right path 😉

placid sage
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I've tried /config/origin.pem as well as /config/homeassistant/origin.pem and it's the same error

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I feel like /homeassistant has to be in there somewhere as that's the directory that file editor shows, but I suppose I'm wrong since it's not working

humble mirage
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No, /homeassistant is a red-herring

placid sage
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It seems that /config/ does seem to not spit any errors when I verify the config, which is a good start. My only concern is I swear I've tried before and I ended up not being able to connect. Could be dns or port forwarding issues, but what makes me think otherwise is that I couldn't even connect locally anymore and was forced to run a restore point. I'll try it again after work and see if I'm missing something. Can you think of any reason that code would prevent me from connecting locally?

steel flower
humble mirage
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For not HA you can use the 3A

steel flower
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okay I did see where it said model 3 didnt have enough ram, I thoiught the 3A+ had more memory

humble mirage
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3B has 1 GB

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3A doesn't

steel flower
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So the BigTreeTech Pi is equivalent to a 3b so that should be fine as long as i dont add too many add ons?

humble mirage
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Well, except it probably won't run HAOS

steel flower
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and also has an ethernet on the board

humble mirage
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HAOS supports specific boards, and that's not one

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HA in Docker (aka Container) will be fine, but you don't get add-ons

steel flower
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someone had reached out to me about using the BTT board specifically, maybe thats how they did it? with Docker?

humble mirage
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Docker, yes

steel flower
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will i be able to install HACS? or is that what you mean by no add ons

raven forge
humble scaffoldBOT
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#integrations-archived integrate Home Assistant with devices or services, or provide functionality within Home Assistant.

#add-ons-archived provide additional software or services, which an integration could possibility integrate with. Add-ons are for Home Assistant OS and Supervised only, other install methods can install software other ways.

steel flower
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the whole reason im even getting into HA is to support and esp board thats being overloaded. the developer told me ill need to install HACS, would that be considered an add on?

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sorry its a little confusing

raven forge
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You cannot download HACS as an add-on, HACS is an integration, and not an add-on

steel flower
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okay, so i can run HACS in docker as its an integration not an add on

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thank you that makes sense. I also see on the HA page reguarding add ons it says most can be added manually so i may be able to add them if i need them depending on the add on?

humble mirage
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Well, not the add-on, but the software

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You can't, for example, run the Mosquitto add-on manually, but there's countless container images

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(there's a handful of exceptions, add-ons that can be run in Docker, but they really are the exception)

queen onyx
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what is the ibeacon tracker, and why does my home-assistant automatically discover this device?
i am running my setup in a container on a raspberry pi 4 running ubuntu. everything else behaves normally (i think), but i don't understand where this intergration is coming from.

steel flower
wind solar
wind solar
steel flower
raven forge
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VMs are awesome. Just make sure you use a good hypervisor.

steel flower
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I’m gonna have to do some more research on that lol

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I’ve never set up a vm before lol

wind solar
# queen onyx what is the ibeacon tracker, and why does my home-assistant automatically discov...

I figured this out, I should have googled it first!

What you are seeing is a BLE device of some type. It could be an Apple AirTag (which is a tracker) or Tile (sorta like a tracker) or an iBeacon (not a tracker) or any other BLE device such as headphones or whatever (not trackers).

The iBeacon integration can be used for triggering automations based on iBeacon proximity. So the HA is tracking the iBeacon; the iBeacon is not tracking anything.

Back to your issue: try to download a free app called LightBlue onto your phone. Be sure Bluetooth is turned on, then open the app and use it to scan for BLE items. See if you can find the same item on that screen. The name will be the same name as shown in your post. Once you find it, take a look at the signal strength shown on the app screen. It will be a negative number like -79 or whatever. Try walking around with your phone to see how that number changes. It will get higher as you get closer and closer to the mystery BLE item. Higher means closer to zero, so for example, -45 is higher than -79. Once you get really close to the mystery item, you can figure out what it is.

queen onyx
wind solar
queen onyx
wind solar
empty smelt
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I just bought an NUC with an Intel i3. Is there any huge advantage to installing HA OS instead of Linux with HA app? Maybe it's better to install Linux in case I want to run other processes later on, right?

steel flower
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can you really create a VM through windows with a windows app? Hyper-V manager? i find this hard to believe it would work lol

raven forge
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If virtualization support is enabled in BIOS/UEFI, yes, but it's not necessarily a good choice. HA's docs suggests VirtualBox, I'd recommend installing proxmox VE in place of windows.

steel flower
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Proxmox VE is its own operating system? Im hoping to maintain use of windows to some degree on the laptop if possible

sturdy marten
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Has any got a guide or a working HA in Docker Swarm?

neon grove
empty smelt
neon grove
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The containers take a bit of getting used to, but once you work with it rather than fighting against it, I find it very good.

empty smelt
brave osprey
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/solved/

humble mirage
steel flower
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I'm having trouble installing HA with docker.Using the cmd prompt I downloaded the latest container image, but when trying to start the HA container im getting an errror
unknown shorthand flag: 'n' in -name=homeassistant

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docker run -d -name="homeassistant" -v C:\homeassistant:/config -net=host homeassistant/home-assistant

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that was my command

raven forge
steel flower
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ok great I got it installed, thank you

cyan flume
# empty smelt I just bought an NUC with an Intel i3. Is there any huge advantage to installing...

I would say yes, install Debian and then install Home Assistant Supervised on Debian. I think HAOS is fantastic for SBCs, but if you have something with more horsepower, such as a NUC, you probably want to allow yourself the freedom to leverage it for other things. A Debian/Supervised install will give you that option, with the only real down side being that it requires a bit of basic Linux knowledge to setup and maintain. I would recommend investing the time to learn though, I learnt a lot about Linux thanks to HA and I am thankful for that, as it has been very useful in other areas too! 🙂

grand pivot
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You can't install Supervised and then use the machine for other things

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That's a misunderstanding of the requirements

empty smelt
cyan flume
humble mirage
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You can back up a compose file, you can't back up a run command 😉

humble mirage
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Don't suggest to people that they do that

cyan flume
humble mirage
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No additional software, outside of the Home Assistant ecosystem, is installed.

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But then, if you're running Supervised, you already read that... and probably ignored it

cyan flume
humble scaffoldBOT
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@cyan flume When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

cyan flume
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but sure, I don't wanna give any bad advice, perhaps not a good idea to do so then if someone is not pretty familier with Linux

humble mirage
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Even if they are.... if they're already at home with Linux then using Docker is smarter

cyan flume
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No add-ons store with Docker installation though, no?

humble mirage
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No, but so what?

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People seem to feel add-ons are some magic that can't be reproduced, when they're far from it

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Even the pretty UI for installing them can be done many other ways

cyan flume
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A lot of people like to have it, but each to their own

humble mirage
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Sure, but a lot of people treat it as if it's the only way of installing software

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That's blatantly bollocks, but it doesn't stop people thinking that

cyan flume
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Sure, there is a lot of misinformation out there, plenty of idiots telling people stuff like they can go ahead and run other things along side a HA supervised installation on Debian... 😬😅 you're probably right tbf, Docker + self manage the add-ons

humble mirage
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The two sane installs (for most people) are HAOS and Container (aka Docker). Core is for *nix greybeards, and Supervised for those who don't have enough pain and frustration in their life

cyan flume
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I'll drink to that 🍺 very glad I narrowly avoid the *nix greybeard category 😂

scenic jasper
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Hello all and greetings from Ireland.... I'm totally new to Home Assistant... and just wondering... how easy is this system to install into a residential home... with me... a non electrical type person.... lol

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Will I need a professional electrician...?

tender wren
scenic jasper
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Does this system monitor your electricity usage..?

scenic jasper
timber adder
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Morning everyone. Are we able to assign a static IP to HA in docker or must it use host networking?

tender wren
tender wren
scenic jasper
tender wren
timber adder
tender wren
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You can set a static IP on your host

timber adder
tender wren
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In that case, the load balancer should get a static IP

timber adder
tender wren
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(Well... HA is not designed to run clustered)

timber adder
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@tender wren would you recommend using Docker over HAOS?

tender wren
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It depends. It's mostly a preference thing.
If you want add-ons and the convenient update through the HA UI stuff - use HAOS.
If you want direct control and less overhead - use Container.

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Also how comfortable do you feel maintaining stuff from the CLI (and/or how much are you willing to learn)?

carmine girder
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i got a .xz file from the thingy

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but i need .qcow

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had to extract 1st'

timber adder
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I'm well versed in Docker and it's intricacies. CLI is almost preferrable. Some of the stuff that I'm testing in HAOS aren't functioning and I'm still learning how to troubleshoot with HAOS. Seeing the logs and building blocks makes it easier in my opinion.

carmine girder
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'press esc in 4 seconds to skip starrtup.nsh'

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the vm box doesnt work

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it booting into uefi schell

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frustrating

raven forge
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More details required. How are you virtualizing?

carmine girder
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virt-manager on my ubuntu 22.02 LTS

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via ssh -X from my ;aptop

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followed this:

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imma start again

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its working

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i think

raven forge
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It's possible that secure boot was enabled.

carmine girder
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the tutorial says to select a bridge

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i dont have a bridge?

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Under Network Selection, select your bridge.

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i dont have time to deal with this today lmao wish my old setup would just work

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im now at a 'HA' shell in the VM but cant reach the :8123

raven forge
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You need to create one then. I don't use ubuntu nor virt-manager so I can't give you specifics. I believe ubuntu uses either Netplan or NetworkManager. You have to figure out how to create a bridge with them. Maybe the DE has an option for this as well.

carmine girder
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i cant find it online

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still pisses me off how the stupid install script being fixed could solve this for me

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but no i gotta stop running ubunt

raven forge
carmine girder
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i am

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thats the thing

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im a unix admin for my job

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but when you try to actually use that method you get this:

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[warn] [warn] If you want more control over your own system, run [warn] Home Assistant as a VM or run Home Assistant Core [warn] via a Docker container. [warn] [error] Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS is not supported!

raven forge
carmine girder
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and that specific error pisses me off cus i just want a --i-know-im-stupid-just-do-it-anyway option

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cant even restore from backup because the supervisor isnt there

raven forge
carmine girder
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how do i actually bypass that then

humble mirage
carmine girder
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thanks btw ❤️

carmine girder
raven forge
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BYPASS_OS_CHECK=true apt install ./homeassistant-supervised.deb or

export BYPASS_OS_CHECK=true
apt install ./homeassistant-supervised.deb

I haven't tested it but I'm fairly certain both should work.

carmine girder
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im going to marry you

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i promise i will get my VM with HAOS working when i have more time lmao

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<3<3

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it worked

tender wren
torn bridge
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ok, question for anyone watching...im new to home assistant and recently installed HAOS in my home server under a kvm instance, the systems running fine however im noticing a strange cpu spike from the guest, i can see it on the host side of running ~20% cpu, yet inside HAOS it shows low utilizaton....not sure if others have seen it? ive tried adding an rtc device per searching to my vm but theres no change in guest behavior....

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only integration running is HACS and the wyzecam integrations, but i saw the elevated cpu before those...and oh an ssh tool to allow ssh access

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how can i track down what in HA is causing the cpu spike so i can address accordingly? nothing seems ot show off in HA logs

primal garden
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can someone help me to setup home assistant

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ı have raspberry pi 3 model b and ı already downloaded imager and upload to the sd card the ı put sd card to the pi and started but ım stuck at the command list screen ı dont have a lan cable ı need to use it with wifi but ı cant connect

torn bridge
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i made some progress....looks like ha had some weird sound issue with docker

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i was able to adjust by removing the audio device (no need for this guest to ever have sound) and its fine

runic warren
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Hi friends. I currently have my HA running on Windows via VirtualBox. I'd like to migrate it over from my internal SSD to my external SSD. My experience with HA is pretty limited, so I'm curious if there's a guide anyone would recommend?

humble mirage
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For VBox you can do that migration in Windows - moving the VM files to the external SSD and running from there. HA won't ever know.

runic warren
river drum
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Hey there!
I think my HomeAssistant died after a few repeated Power Outages in a few minutes

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it seems like it just doesn't boot to anything anymore

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I'm using Generic x86/x64, so I went to grab a fresh install setup, but I"m trying to find the existing configs/etc so thaat I can back them up/migrate them

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if anyone can help me figure out where/what I should back up, that would be awesome

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also, if anyone has an idea on just repairing the boot, that would also be great!

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I'll be digging around in the meantime, but just in case anyone knows of a guide I haven't found or is more familiar and might be able to help!

humble mirage
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Is it really just as simple as straight

thorny arrow
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Ok so I just installed ha on a mini PC and it boots into the ha cli but it's not connected to my network, what do I do?

river drum
river drum
raven forge
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It's always great when someone comes back to share the solution to their problem 👍

spring lily
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Hi team, I am getting a crash in CLI after initial setup of Home Assistant - The part before you create an account, I am getting Out of Memory errors, I have tried different SD cards and a couple of fresh installs

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Installing on Pi Zero 2 w

grand pivot
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That isn't supported

spring lily
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Using pi installer Home assistant 11.4

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Ah, great! No worries that's a quick easy answer

grand pivot
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Note the hardware requirements on the installation page

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Pi3B at a minimum

spring lily
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Ah perfect! Thanks Rob - Appreciate the quick answer

haughty cosmos
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is there any reason for which I should not follow the instructions under "Install Home Assistant Core" ? will I lose any functionality?

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my main concern is that i want to be able to install addons/etc

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while also being able to manage the machine myself

grand pivot
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You get no addons with that method

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That's clear from the table on the installation page

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Install HAOS in a VM if that's what you want

haughty cosmos
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so i want to run this on rpi5. does it mean i have to build an image manually for "generic_aarch64" so I can use it in qemu?

haughty cosmos
chrome onyx
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heya, im trying to setup hass on a truennas scale server thru a vm, and when i go to the 8123 port i get this error "An error occured while installing Home Assistant, check the logs below for more information." and here are the logs https://hastebin.com/share/yarijazoke.yaml if anyone could help that would be great

raven forge
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Temporary failure in name resolution

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You can try to enter the VM, enter login and then see what nslookup ghcr.io 1.1.1.1 and ping 1.1.1.1 say.

chrome onyx
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Thanks so much! and i tried too, and it pinged properly, and when i looked back at my other screen it ended up just dumping me at the login screen! but unfortunately i forgot the username to the account, (or it says i did when i try to reset the password thru cli) is there a way i can reset the username for the account or create a new account? (i don't care about anything on the instance, so if there's a form of a reset for it that's fine, i just really dont want to go thru the process of reinstalling it, cus i cant find iso file i used)

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fixed! for anyone else with this problem, i found it using "grep username .storage/auth" in the configuration.yaml direcotry (got to it with cd from cli)

raven forge
zenith shard
empty smelt
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You guys recommend installing HA on ubuntu as a docker container or as an app (core)? Regardless of core installation being a bit more difficult, I don't really care. Just wondering which is better to maintain, I guess core goes through apt?

neon grove
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Docker I would think, otherwise you are going to have to manage Python Versions etc.

tender wren
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And HA Core itself would be installed with pip, not apt.

near quiver
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I installed HAOS but I do want to edit the yaml files... how do I do that ??

north venture
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Go to addons and it's there is an addon called file editor

gloomy reef
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I am thinking of moving my dedicated HaOS installation to Proxmox. Will the HaOS snapshots have all the containers or his the HA container? Beside HA, I have a container for frigate and another one call hassio_observer

coral sable
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My HA gets reset to Onboarding on each system reboot

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my compose file is just this

version: '3'
services:
  homeassistant:
    container_name: homeassistant
    image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable"
    volumes:
      - /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config
      - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
      - /run/dbus:/run/dbus:ro
    restart: unless-stopped
    privileged: true
    network_mode: host
dire horizon
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hi. i have a minipc with home assistant OS running. how do i install this again? my current install has a serious issue and restoring a backup did not do anything.

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so basically re-installing the whole OS and then restoring backup.

vernal hound
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my HAOS also has a problem. I got a power outage, and now its in a boot loop.

On boot it says:
No filesystem could mount root, tried: ext4
Kernel panic - not syncing VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(179,2)
CPU: 1 PIG: 1 Comm: Swapper/0 Not tainet 6.1.63-haos-raspi #1
Hardware name: Raspberry pi 5 model B rev 1.0 (dt)

Rebooting in 5 seconds

vernal hound
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I also can't access the sd in my pc because it doesn't recognise the card

river drum
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I think that ultimately it was just the bios of my machine that was acting up though, not so much the operating system

crude inlet
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@vernal hound you need something that can read Linux ext file system. A linux pc, Linux reader for Windows or osxfuse for Mac

vernal hound
tender wren
crude inlet
coral sable
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nooo

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but it worked before as /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG

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it just created a folder in root dir

vernal hound
tender wren
mighty aspen
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It is possible to install hass on a rpi5 with the availability of addons?

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Or in other words: is it possible to install hass supervised on the rpi5? I currently have the hass container version running but I can not install add-ons.., or is there a way to manually install add-ons?

humble mirage
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Home Assistant OS is in beta for the Pi5

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Supervised should be avoided unless you hate yourself

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Add-ons aren't special magic though, they're just one way of running software

mighty aspen
mighty aspen
vernal hound
crude inlet
vernal hound
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I see, thats good because I think thats the only folder the linux recovery was able to recover

vernal hound
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so how do I fix my HA? I just do a new install, open it with Linux reader and then copy the supervisor directory?

crude inlet
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Did you recover the backup directory?

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I would reflash HAOS, set it up, upload backups if you have them and then restore backup

vernal hound
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I recovered a docker file, logs, lost+found, supervisor, .hassos-supervisor, rauc.db and swapfile

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theres one backup file with a .tar file

crude inlet
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What’s in supervisor

vernal hound
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a lot of folders are in supervisor, jsons, folders, addons, but then also the backup folder with a .tar file

vernal hound
rose cloud
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hey, i am trying to figure something out. I had to rebuild my homeassistant hsot machine. Got HAOS up and running again (Fedora IOT -> KVM -> HassOS).

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I have a full backup that i made before. I am trying to restore it but it's been sitting there for 8h showing Restoring in Progress and a spinner.

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0.1 - "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 -
Feb 03 19:23:52 homeassistant hassio_supervisor[453]: 24-02-03 11:23:52 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.addons.addon] Timeout while waiting for addon Z-Wave JS to start, took more than 120 seconds
Feb 03 19:24:13 homeassistant homeassistant[453]: 2024-02-03 11:24:13.597 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio.handler] Timeout on /addons/core_zwave_js/start request
Feb 03 19:24:13 homeassistant homeassistant[453]: 2024-02-03 11:24:13.597 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zwave_js] Failed to start the Z-Wave JS add-on:

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This is what I see in journalctl -f logs continously pop up.

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Is it possible it is stuck in an invinite loop here. Since it is trying to startup; does that suggest the restore is complete? If so, i can maybe restart and try to fix manually wahteer is getting in the way of zwave js not starting.

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Thoughts?

hazy wigeon
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I'm trying to repair my HomeAssistant installation by using core check and su repair but both result in errors like

Post "http://supervisor/core/check": Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers

and

Post "http://supervisor/supervisor/repair": Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers

For the rest http://homeassistant.local:4357/ is working fine, but I can't reach the website on 8123
Does anybody know what I can do to check why these timeouts occur?

humble mirage
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Haha oke, any easy way to uninstall the

fluid saffron
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Hey there. Quick question. I am running HA Supervised on Debian. I see per GitHub, the latest supervisor is 2024.01.1... However I'm on 2023.12.1. I tried running:

ha supervisor update

and it states:

Error: No supervisor update available - 2023.12.1

Why would this be?

vernal hound
tender wren
fluid saffron
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Got it. I just assumed since it was on GitHub under released, it was the latest release... I suppose maybe that's for developers/beta users?

humble mirage
fluid saffron
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Thank you for the clarification 🙂

vernal hound
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i cant do automatic backup recovery with the built-in UI. But I got access to all the files and I dont have that many (Tuya and Mosquitto), can I just do a manual backup instead by replacing the files on the sd card with the addons core from my backup?

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its only 40 mb but its >2 hours going already

raven forge
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That should work for core. Make sure you don't miss the . files/directories.

vernal hound
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what application should I use for that? I think linux reader is only reading

raven forge
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You could live boot ubuntu/mint.

vernal hound
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could i install a VM with ubuntu?

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im trying to upload my backup and restore that way, we'll see how that works

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in the meantime im downloading ubuntu

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setting up Tuya and MQTT has been a pain in my ass, i dont want to redo that again

raven forge
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If your hypervisor allows you to pass through the storage device sure.

hollow musk
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so with home assistant can you put on 3 or old prime number system and over failover

humble scaffoldBOT
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@vivid ermine I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
ember basalt
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Whoops. My bad

balmy crescent
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Hi. How can install a beta version of home assistant on my new raspberry pi 5 ?

humble mirage
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By following the instructions for your install method

thin mantle
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Hi all! Is it possible to remove the dependency on ha-av and it's subdependencies?

humble mirage
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Disable default_config and only enable the things you need, that don't require those

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No camera streams for you, or other image services

humble scaffoldBOT
thin mantle
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Not needed at the moment. I'll look into these dependencies when I'm interested in anything image-y.

humble mirage
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Or just update your host to a modern OS

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Or... just use Docker

thin mantle
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My OS is very modern. Docker is not going to happen, I already have to deal with that shit at work. Not going to let stuff like that into my own house.

humble mirage
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Then work has done something very wrong

thin mantle
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If you knew how right you are about that 😄

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But seriously, there's far too much dependence on containerisation.

humble mirage
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Far less than when installing from source

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I'm old enough to have known source as the One True Way, then package managers. You can pry containers out of my cold dead fingers.

thin mantle
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Why? The installation from source was quite nice and simple.

humble mirage
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Hell, I build my own images or stuff

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Because containers remove all those dependencies

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Need FFMPEG 6 for one thing and 5 for another, no problems

thin mantle
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So many levels of indirection extra on top of all the ones that are already there. For things which I don't need nor want [at the moment]...

humble mirage
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Also, upgrades and downgrades are so damn easy

thin mantle
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True, but then again, there's sometimes virtue in just leaving it be for a while.

humble mirage
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Not for HA there's not

thin mantle
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Hmm, which of these is the dependency on audio-video things? stream? And what's ssdp and my?

humble mirage
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New major version monthly, point releases in between

humble mirage
thin mantle
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Yeah, I think I'll just leave the major version be once I'm happy with the setup 🙂

raven forge
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I once accidentally upgraded my OS and forgot my octoprint venv. That was painful to fix. I figure it's similar for HA.

thin mantle
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Sorry, shouldn't have asked. Already RTFM.

humble mirage
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Well, if you don't update monthly expect the next upgrade you to do be an utter nightmare

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You can probably get by every other month, but more than that and upgrades risk breaking

thin mantle
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So you throw out the update from last month, every month?

humble mirage
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Every month is a new major version

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With X point releases through the month

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Last month X=6

thin mantle
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And the old ones get archived. So what prevents me from going from major version to major version?

humble mirage
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Nothing, other than time

thin mantle
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See, no harm, no foul.

humble mirage
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Well, you'll also find the docs no longer reflect your reality, but if you're happy with that...

thin mantle
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Oh YES, this was a good decision. So many things I can get rid of now!

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I appreciate the guidance, by the way, Tinkerer. It's just that some things are for me and some others aren't.

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Hmm ... ... the sqlite3 database at //home/jrs/.homeassistant/home-assistant_v2.db ...
Do you know where that double / might come from, @humble mirage?

humble scaffoldBOT
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@thin mantle Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.
When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

humble mirage
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I'd guess something you did when you defined the path, if you did

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if not... somewhere in the code

thin mantle
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Apologies for the tag 😦

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I never defined it, hence the question. Grepping for something like this isn't easy.

raven forge
full geyser
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How should I restore a backup on a HA container setup?

raven forge
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Stop the container, extract the backup to the right place, start it again.

latent thistle
humble mirage
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Check your HA log and then list the /24

latent thistle
humble mirage
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What else?

humble scaffoldBOT
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@latent thistle When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

latent thistle
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it will on these lines invalid authentication from supervisor (172.30.32.2) ?

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issues I am trying to fix with ssl certificate

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is this the correct channel to discuss that?

humble mirage
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So, you need to list 172.30.32.0/24 then

latent thistle
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currently it is configured as ```http:
use_x_forwarded_for: true
trusted_proxies:
- 172.30.0.0/24

humble mirage
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Did you consider maybe reading what I wrote above?

latent thistle
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let me try that

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same issue ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED without the 8123 port

humble mirage
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Well, what's in the proxy log? What's in HA's log?

latent thistle
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NPM logs 2024/02/05 18:16:18 [error] 205#205: *1 connect() failed (111: Connection refused) while connecting to upstream, client: 192.168.18.126, server: nginxproxymanager, request: "GET /api/ HTTP/1.1", upstream: "http://127.0.0.1:3000/", host: "lifxha.duckdns.org:81", referrer: "http://lifxha.duckdns.org:81/nginx/proxy

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another error [error] 202#202: *1 SSL_do_handshake() failed (SSL: error:0A00010B:SSL routines::wrong version number) while SSL handshaking to upstream, client: 192.168.18.126, server: *.lifxha.duckdns.org, request: "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/2.0", upstream: "https://172.30.32.1:8123/favicon.ico", host: "lifxha.duckdns.org", referrer: "https://lifxha.duckdns.org/"

humble mirage
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Well, only one of those is relevant, but progress at least

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Now... Why the hell are you using https://172.30.32.1:8123?

latent thistle
humble mirage
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Sigh

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another error [error] 202#202: *1 SSL_do_handshake() failed (SSL: error:0A00010B:SSL routines::wrong version number) while SSL handshaking to upstream, client: 192.168.18.126, server: *.lifxha.duckdns.org, request: "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/2.0", upstream: "https://172.30.32.1:8123/favicon.ico", host: "lifxha.duckdns.org", referrer: "https://lifxha.duckdns.org/"

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There... in the proxy config you're using https:// for HA

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That's wrong

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Very wrong

latent thistle
humble mirage
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FFS

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You should try reading what I'm saying

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Your NGINX config

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That is wrong

latent thistle
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without the https

humble mirage
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Scheme http and no SSL

latent thistle
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got it

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let me fix that

toxic dust
plain grail
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I followed the instructions on the home assistant website to install it on a docker container.
I got it successfully runnning but am unable to access home assistant on http://homeassistant.local:8123

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Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

humble mirage
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Just use the IP of the host

humble mirage
plain grail
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Ok I'll try that thanks

fallen lichen
toxic dust
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With debian package

humble mirage
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Ah... Supervised got another victim

latent thistle
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current error [05/Feb/2024:19:00:07 +0500] - 400 400 - GET https lifxha.duckdns.org "/favicon.ico" [Client 192.168.18.126] [Length 16] [Gzip -] [Sent-to homeassistant] "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/122.0.0.0 Safari/537.36" "https://lifxha.duckdns.org/"

plain grail
toxic dust
plain grail
humble mirage
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What OS?

plain grail
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windows

humble mirage
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Well... there's your problem

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You didn't actually read the Windows install guide, did you?

plain grail
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Oh ok I see.
My bad.
Thanks for the help

humble mirage
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That's because Docker on Windows is missing key features

humble mirage
toxic dust
humble mirage
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Step back ...

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stop trying to use Supervised

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This is just going to cause you pain as you've ignored the requirements

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You system will be flagged as Unhealthy and things won't work

toxic dust
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oh

humble mirage
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If you're going to run Supervised you actually have to read the requirements and follow them

latent thistle
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on windows try using virtualbox method instead

toxic dust
humble mirage
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Unsupported

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What operating system and what hardware?

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And have you actually read the requirements?

toxic dust
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yep

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Unless I chose the wrong option in supervisor when installing it

humble mirage
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You keep not answering:

What operating system and what hardware?

toxic dust
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Running on RPi 5 *8GB

humble mirage
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We can't help if you won't tell us 😉

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And the operating system?

toxic dust
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Debian 12

humble mirage
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Actual Debian?

toxic dust
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yep

humble mirage
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So, all you have to do is:

  1. remove all the other containers
  2. remove all the other software
  3. remove the Home Assistant container
  4. Ensure you used the right deb for your arch
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You need to remove all the kasmweb stuff, and redis, and postgres

fallen lichen
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Or... create a VM for Kasm and a VM for HA OS and save your headaches

toxic dust
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It's another night to wait for the installation (I have slow internet)

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I'm going to download virtualbox

latent thistle
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latest error 202#202: *16 connect() failed (111: Connection refused) while connecting to upstream, client: 192.168.18.126, server: nginxproxymanager, request: "GET /api/ HTTP/1.1", upstream: "http://127.0.0.1:3000/", host: "lifxha.duckdns.org:81", referrer: "http://lifxha.duckdns.org:81/nginx/proxy"

humble mirage
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Port 3000 isn't HA

latent thistle
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yes that is strange

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why it is pointing to this port when I have clearly selected 8123

plain grail
latent thistle
latent thistle
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[05/Feb/2024:20:28:19 +0500] - 400 400 - GET https lifxha.duckdns.org "/favicon.ico" [Client 192.168.18.126] [Length 16] [Gzip -] [Sent-to 192.168.18.165] "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/122.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Edg/122.0.0.0" "https://lifxha.duckdns.org/"
``` tried in edge to differentiate, same issue
latent thistle
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something in HA logs too ```Logger: homeassistant.components.http.forwarded
Source: components/http/forwarded.py:125
Integration: HTTP (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 21:01:13 (8 occurrences)
Last logged: 21:14:06

Received X-Forwarded-For header from an untrusted proxy 172.30.33.5

humble mirage
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Looks like you found the IP range to list

latent thistle
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it should be http: use_x_forwarded_for: true trusted_proxies: - 172.30.33.0/24 ?

humble mirage
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Probably

restive epoch
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Hi! I just tried to update to the latest supervisor, but I'm running into issues
docker logs of my supervisor gives:

s6-supervise watchdog: warning: unable to spawn ./run (waiting 60 seconds): Exec format error
s6-supervise supervisor: warning: unable to spawn ./run (waiting 60 seconds): Exec format error

Anyone got an idea why the supervisor is giving these errors?

Running HAOS on Pi4

docker ps gives:

CONTAINER ID   IMAGE                                                      COMMAND               CREATED          STATUS          PORTS                                   NAMES
9d55c27f2345   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:latest    "/init"               55 minutes ago   Up 26 minutes                                           hassio_supervisor
ada2580c7d32   ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-observer:2023.06.0   "/usr/bin/observer"   32 hours ago     Up 26 minutes   0.0.0.0:4357->80/tcp, :::4357->80/tcp   hassio_observer
pale imp
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is there any way to verify that the operating-system images I downloaded are the expected ones? ie no data corruption, no tampering, ...? could not find shasums/gpg sigs/...

foggy brook
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I am attempting a fresh install of HA OS in virtualbox. once I start the Vm http://192.168.1.12:8123 says 500 Internal Server Error Server got itself in trouble? My supervisor says everything is healthy. Why can't I access the HA UI?

raven forge
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Check ha core logs

foggy brook
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says httpserver error handleing request

raven forge
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Share the logs so someone can look at them.

humble scaffoldBOT
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@foggy brook I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
raven forge
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You might want to take a screenshot instead of... this.

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

foggy brook
raven forge
orchid urchin
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I don't think I understand how I set up my network.

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I've got my mqtt set up in a docker container with it's own IP, (192.168.144.4) but then my mqtt integration points to mqtt://192.168.0.2:1883

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Everything works fine with zigbee etc. but I can't get other devices (tasmota) to play nice and find my mqtt server

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did I do it wrong?

raven forge
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How does your compose file look like?

orchid urchin
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one moment

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version: ‘3’
networks:
vpcbr:
ipam:
config:
- subnet: 192.168.144.0/16
gateway: 192.168.144.1

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I assume this is the important part

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I don't suppose there's a clean way to get external devices into the subnet?

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zigbee2mqtt uses mqtt://192.168.0.2 but tasmota devices hate that

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I'll let the bot handle this one

humble scaffoldBOT
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@orchid urchin I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
dense trail
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Hello friends, for the first time i am trying home assistant. I ended up with too many errors. Its PI4 with 2GB RAM. Tried to reimage multiple times. Rebooted multiple times. No luck. As per docs i can only enable ssh if i can login. Not sure how to fix this. My internet has no issues. I was able to download images from sam repo on my Mac

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[supervisor.store.git] Cloning add-on https://github.com/home-assistant/addons repository [supervisor.store.git] Can't clone https://github.com/home-assistant/addons repository: Cmd('git') failed due to: exit code(128) cmdline: git clone -v --recursive --depth=1 --shallow-submodules -- https://github.com/home-assistant/addons /data/addons/core stderr: 'Cloning into '/data/addons/core'... fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/home-assistant/addons/': Could not resolve host: github.com '. [supervisor.store] Can't retrieve data from core due to  [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new suggestion execute_remove - store / core [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue fatal_error - store / core [supervisor.store.git] Can't clone https://github.com/hassio-addons/repository repository: Cmd('git') failed due to: exit code(128) cmdline: git clone -v --recursive --depth=1 --shallow-submodules -- https://github.com/hassio-addons/repository
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[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2024.01.1: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/create?tag=2024.01.1&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Faarch64-hassio-supervisor&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
[supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue update_failed - supervisor / None
[supervisor.supervisor] Update of Supervisor failed: Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2024.01.1: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/create?tag=2024.01.1&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Faarch64-hassio-supervisor&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
CRITICAL (MainThread) [supervisor.core] Can't update Supervisor! This will break some Add-ons or affect future versions of Home Assistant!
humble scaffoldBOT
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To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks.
```yaml
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Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

tepid rain
#

Hi, i don't know why but my HA won't update. It's been stuck on HA 2022 version for a while and whenever i update it just spins forever. Also whenever i try to make a backup it says it can't because HA is starting up, it says this after it has been running for hours and is fully started

tidal kite
proud oxide
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Hi, I installed HACS on a pretty empty HA. (HAOS 11.1, Core ver. 2023.11.3). After restart, Home assistant came back on saying that it is unhealthy and Supervisor update failed.

At the same time ghcr.io is resolvable and pingable.

humble mirage
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Why is it unhealthy? (hint, it tells you)

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DNS is broken

humble scaffoldBOT
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@proud oxide I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
proud oxide
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Dns is not broken

[core-ssh ~]$ dig +short ghcr.io
140.82.121.33
humble mirage
#

dial tcp: lookup ghcr.io: no such host
is 😉

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That it's working from another container doesn't mean that DNS isn't broken elsewhere

proud oxide
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Well, that might be 🙂
Is there a way to mitigate it or flush it and restore from backup?

humble mirage
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Yes, though I don't remember the details - somebody else will know though

proud oxide
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The only thing i did was HACS install from

cunning gust
#

If want to install something like "nanoleaf" or "hyperion" HA always wants an IP or server name. Where do i find it? Or how do I install it?

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@cunning gust Please do not cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

shy epoch
#

No Ping request from HA after Sytemupgrade Yesterday

shy epoch
#

Hello no one around could give me any advise?

dense trail
# tidal kite Sounds like your device can't connect to the internet, either bacause it's not c...

Last night i figured something. Installed HA on virtual box and noticed:

  1. While selecting “Shared Network “ the HAOS is only reachable to the host computer however it can start service and able to download anything from internet. HAOs Cannot be accessed from Local network .
  2. Bridge network- can be accessed from anywhere in the local network but here is the problem. HAOS unable to reach internet or say unable to connect to github
neon grove
#

The most likely reason is you have some firewall rules somewhere for the host IP to let it access the internet, but not for the IP address allocated for the bridged VM.

ancient oriole
#

I attempted an update and now I am getting "Dependency failed for home assistant OS data partition migration" and a hung waiting for CLI to be ready message

neon grove
ancient oriole
#

I did not thanks for that

ancient oriole
humble scaffoldBOT
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@alpine relic I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
olive iron
#

Can anyone help me out with what is Raspberry pi 5 default password on boot up for the first time

brazen herald
olive iron
#

what ever The PiHut installed onto it. I no clue its suppose to be plug and play. I did not install it. And nothing in the box either

brazen herald
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Well that's nothing to do with home assistant then. But usually the default username is pi and the password is raspberry.

olive iron
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Ya I tried these so no clue at all I have emailed the PIHUT but just thought to ask just in case I was going to install HA onto it but no need with my New Ikoolcore R2 coming and yellow up and running now! 🙂 Thanks!

olive iron
orchid urchin
#

So if I want to connect devices not on the host machine to the mqtt server I don't want to set it up on a docker subnet?

long wyvern
#

What's a warranty?

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Oh, it's that thing thats supposed to make people scared to work on their own stuff

exotic shuttle
#

Hello, I just solve a major install issue with at least 3 variations from the HA guide. Now, I'm nervious to add my 1st device, a Zigbee Thermometer and a Zigbee USB stick. Is there are guide or do I just stick the Zigbee USB stick in the computer and cross my fingers?

harsh hawk
#

How long, typically, does it take to restore an image in home assistant?

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So I just migrated my setup from running in a VM... to running on bare metal. All the integrations are greyed out

harsh hawk
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Ahhh nevermind

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I needed to link the Tuya Smart devices back into the Tuya Smart app

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Problem is... Zigbee is still down

harsh hawk
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Got it back up nevermind

raven forge
#

A restore usually requires a reboot. I assume that's what you did? It's common courtesy to mention how you fixed your problem(s).

brittle star
raven forge
#

Reboot shouldn't be necessary.

dire sundial
#

Howdy everyone.

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I have a nice nuc coming and I'd like to build a home automation device with it. I already have aptv and homekit.

I have an ancient pi0w running homebridge/pivpn/pi-hole/airprint server.

Looking to move the autommation stuff to the nuc from the pi.

Better to install ubuntu sever.. Then docker and all the other bits...

or do the the os version of home assistant and then add docker for the other things.

humble mirage
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Well, you can only "add docker" if you run HAOS in a VM, and "add docker" elsewhere - HAOS can't run random Docker images

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So, Ubuntu (if you must) + VM software for HAOS

dire sundial
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I don't want to do vm

humble mirage
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Then either run HAOS and stick with add-ons that exist, or don't use HAOS at all

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HAOS doesn't allow you access to Docker to run random stuff

dire sundial
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Ok...that seemed to be what I was seeing.

I offically started with the Homebridge pi image which is basically just a normal whether then I added the print server, pivpn, etc

humble mirage
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You can run HA in Docker (aka HA Container) and do what you want

raven forge
#

Any reasons for avoiding VMs?

humble mirage
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You just don't get add-ons (which are just special container images for HAOS)

dire sundial
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I know dick about them lol and it seems that it was a pain to do it.

raven forge
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If you have a minute I'd recomming you search youtube for proxmox. Maybe you get interested. Otherwise my recommendation aligns with what tinkerer laid out.

dire sundial
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I was starting to play with ha on vm in my notebook but it was like no wifi support in vm so I thought ok for $130 I can get the nuc with a Tb and 32g

humble mirage
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That sounds like Windows

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Windows and VBox often doesn't play well with WiFi

dire sundial
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I have found proxmox 🙂

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I mean I can plug my notebook in the router but no reason not to use a tiny box.

I also currently run the "arrs" and plex server so I thought I'd move it all over to this

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I'm just making the plan figured a real person is quicker than Google

humble mirage
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Plex and HAOS isn't a great combo, you're 100% better off with native Docker there

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(or Proxmox + a VM for Docker)

lean pasture
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So I'm running HA Core in Docker and my container logs are loaded with gc (guessing garbage collector) messages. It seems like it just started this morning and just won't stop. Any clue as to what's going on?

gc: collecting generation 0...
gc: objects in each generation: 700 3012 1257126
gc: objects in permanent generation: 0
gc: done, 0 unreachable, 0 uncollectable, 0.0001s elapsed
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I've killed and removed the container, deleted and repulled the image, but it's still doing this. I can't tell when it started because it only shows up in the Docker logs.

humble mirage
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What hardware? How much RAM?

lean pasture
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My server. Zen 5600X, 32GB RAM.

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Also running 2024.1.6

raven forge
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Is it possible some integration is enabling debugging gc logs?

lean pasture
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That would be my first thought but these are only showing up in the Docker logs. The HA logs don't record it at all.

raven forge
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You could try grep -sRl "gc.set_debug" pathtoha but I'm not a python dev and there might be other invocations to enable it.
I can't find anything in my installation so it might be something custom. Not quite sure, just guessing so only try if you have some time to waste 🙂

lean pasture
raven forge
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grep to the rescue again. grep -sRl "profiler" pathtohaconfig should show an entry in .storage/core.config_entries.
You generally want to avoid spelunking in there though.

lean pasture
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It didn't, unfortunately. Nothing in the config directory for profiler.

raw hedge
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More like WiFi does not play well with exposing virtual computers to the lan… driver limitations with some manufacturers

alpine relic
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Maybe you guys can guide me to - what log file (if any) should I be looking at to diagnose my issue? Basically after signing in from external address only I'm getting "Unable to connect to Home Assistant...". This is after it accepts my credentials, and only from external.
I'm 98.6% positive nothing should be impeding external access, I have set it up a number of times... but something is maddeningly stopping it, and looking in the standard log i don't see anything.

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(running on Pi, as is Nginx Manager)

humble mirage
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Start with the proxy log and the core log

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99% likely you skipped past the part in the http docs about remote access

alpine relic
lean pasture
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I think I found it. Looks like it's the custom integration valetudo_vacuum_camera.

I set HA logs to info and removed all filters and adjustments. It always was getting set up right before it changed. Go to the repo and I can see that the maintainer has been trying to fix a gc issue.

alpine relic
# humble mirage 99% likely you skipped past the part in the `http` docs about remote access

thing is, it's not a new setup.... i was running with Nginx Manager as an add on, and then when it reently went to 1.0 it required all setup to be redone. No config could be ported. When I re-set up all the duckdns certs + paths ... while all other services on my home worked, HA no longer did. And the http stuff hadn't changed on HA side, it's the same address and everything....

humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
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Check the docs, check the logs already mentioned

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Something changed, and that has all the answers

alpine relic
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lol maddening, but thanks for your help i will....

lean pasture
alpine relic
# humble mirage Check the docs, check the logs already mentioned

OK I think this is the error here in the core logs.... i also tested with VPN because i noticed it was from http.ban and even tho i have ip ban disabled, I wondered if it somehow was banning my ip or whatever. Maybe the name? if it's http.ban bringing the hammer, is there a xml or something with all the banned addresses? (i swapped out my actual ip address here)

Logger: homeassistant.components.http.ban
Source: components/http/ban.py:129
Integration: HTTP (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 10:54:28 AM (9 occurrences)
Last logged: 11:04:23 AM

Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from [my-ip-address].cpe.teksavvy.com ([my.ip.address)]. Requested URL: '/auth/token'. (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/121.0.0.0 Safari/537.36)
Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from 153.92.40.164 (153.92.40.164). Requested URL: '/auth/token'. (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/121.0.0.0 Safari/537.36)

hot pumice
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update takes long time think didnt work

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since 20 min message installing

quartz wing
#

Quick sanity check if I can...
I am finally getting around to allowing my HA container to float between docker swarm nodes, the blocker until now has been the sqlite database

If I do the basic mariadb setup for HA, and store all the rest of the configuration on an NFS location, I will be fine with no sqlite database right?

I see mentions in the documentation of recorder but also logbook, and I see people talking about mariadb + influx - is this just an even more advanced setup?

humble mirage
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There's a lot written to the config folder, the database is the least of it

quartz wing
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Yeah I understand that - but the only thing I am concerned about over NFS is sqlite, so from what I can tell if I solve that (move it to a sql service that is happy with NFS) then the config is an easy thing to serve directly from NFS

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Not my ideal but I could run mariadb on the NAS so that there is no NFS for the sql server to worry about, but from some reading I think I can get away with mariadb mounting the db over NFS

ebon shard
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2024.2.0 fails to install update just returns to say update avaliable

granite thunder
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mangler hjælp til og flytte home assistent til min server🤪

humble mirage
#

English please @granite thunder

granite thunder
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need help to move my home assistant to my server qnap 832

quartz wing
humble mirage
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There's a mass of stuff in .storage

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Should all be fine, as long as your NFS isn't treacle slow

quartz wing
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Never looked in there, thanks!

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I think it should be fine. It's not the fastest but will be getting a nice SSD and 5gbe upgrade soon.

manic lantern
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Alright I’m having issues setting the static ip info from cli

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I’m running network update end0 —ipv4-address 192.168.0.182 —ipv4-gateway 192.168.0.1 —ipv4-nameserver 192.168.0.1

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Says it completed successfully but nothing changes in network info.

versed vapor
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did you try and restart after making those changes

manic lantern
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Yeah

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I tried changing it from the main screen and after typing “login”

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There’s another router between the main router and HASS but it’s only being used as an AP, computer also plugged into that router works fine

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Basically just using the middle router as an AP and switch.

versed vapor
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is there anything suspicious on the supervisor/other logs

manic lantern
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I forgot to change the method to static..

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Derp.

fallen saddle
#

Does anyone else have bootloops on HAOS on a raspberry pi 5 when you use a USB 3 NVME enclosure as data disk?

raven forge
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Is it plugged into a powered USB hub?

heavy flame
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I'm trying to update my home assistant server, I press install, and it spins for awhile, then nothing happens and it just stops processing, any clue whats going on?

crude inlet
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@heavy flame supervisor handles this in HAOS, so check supervisor logs

heavy flame
feral yarrow
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Greetings all... I took a power failure about an hour ago that has caused my HA instance to refuse to reboot. The UPS on my PC did not cover power long enough for me to gracefully shut down the VM and PC before power died. So - my HA VM is now booting into rescue mode. I can get the log from journalctl if someone would be willing to help me look at it and figure out what is killing the system and keeping me from getting everything back to running condition. Many thanks for your assistance!

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A little more context here. In fact, I was in the process of doing an ACPI shutdown in the VM when the power died. HA was going through its shutdown process which was stopped right in the middle. Evidently, that really made it upset. Both slots at the startup screen show 3 tries at booting. Typing "reboot" in the rescue mode will force a reboot try, but the boot fails and it goes back to rescue mode again.

feral yarrow
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Looking through the file generated with the journalctl -xb command, I can see that there are 8 errors created that say "Invalid Checksum for backup superblock".

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Watching the boot process, I can tell that there is also a FAILED response, but it scrolls off the screen very quickly before I can see exactly what it says (although I know it's a dependency of some sort), and I don't seem to see that information in the file above.

feral yarrow
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Continuing on with my troubleshooting (hoping I'm hitting the right notes here)... Because I'm not overly familiar with the rescue screen or with Linux, it looks like the boot process is reporting 8 different superblock checksum errors for sda8. From what I read, it looks like I should perhaps want or need to run the e2fsck command?

feral yarrow
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And even if I wanted to run e2fsck, /dev/sda8 is mounted - and I cannot unmount it.

dire estuary
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Hi guys. im seriously running my head against the wall now... Got HAOS running on VirtualBox on a debian server. Had it running for quite some time but after i updated to the newest core, my vm wont start and returns with following error: **
Waiting for VM "homeassistant" to power on...
VBoxManage: error: The virtual machine 'homeassistant' has terminated unexpectedly during startup because of signal 6
VBoxManage: error: Details: code NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005), component MachineWrap, interface IMachine
**

Anyone have any ideas of what could be wrong?, been through some pages on google but with no luck.
Ive tried completely purging VirtualBox and reinstalled, but stuck with same error. Any ideas?

queen bronze
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If you have a backup you could start on a fresh haos image

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I also run HAOS in vbox (haven't updated core to latest though)

feral yarrow
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Any other thoughts? I'm still searching for a solution, but so far, I haven't found a lot of help on the web.

crude inlet
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Everyone running VMs: They are disposable. They aren't worth spending more than 30 minutes looking into. Throw up another one and restore a backup. That's the whole point of VMs. They are not precious.

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You could in fact have more than one VM always at the ready, never starting it. Occasionally updating it when needed.

tender wren
brittle star
feral yarrow
# crude inlet Everyone running VMs: They are disposable. They aren't worth spending more than ...

That indeed makes the most sense. There's just one fly in the ointment... while I was letting HA make backups for me, I hadn't figured out (until today, researching this problem) that I should have been actually sending that backup somewhere else. So while I'm staring directly at what may likely be a blow up / rebuild situation, I'd love to at least find a way to get my latest backup, if possible.

opal panther
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I'm reinstalling proxmox, so i will be removing my HA installation and then add it back on a fresh install. I was going to install from a back up I'd create right before i delete everything. Is there anything i should know before i do anything? Will everything start up and run as before, or is there a bunch of configuring and setting up before its back to normal?

wooden smelt
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Should be good.

raven forge
opal panther
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@raven forge sorry just saw your message. I fked a bunch of stuff up and one annoying one was i wanted to fix my storage on my HA and i accidently add 500gb instead of 50gb. But i didnt end up reinstalling proxmox entirly, i fixed my local storage, spun up a fresh HA, backed up my old one, threw the new one in the new VM, cloned my mac addy and fired it up. Seems way more snappier. But yeah, lesson for the kids, do more backups. (and dont fk with things you have no idea what they do)

raven forge
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Shrinking storage, especially LVM thin, can be quite frustrating (or impossible) indeed. Last time I ran into this I added another smaller disk and cloned the bigger one. I believe I used clonezilla. I recommend PBS (Proxmox Backup Server. Can run as VM) for backups as it's fast and uses very little space so you can do a lot of them.
I combine it with automatic snapshots: https://github.com/Corsinvest/cv4pve-autosnap.

opal panther
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youtube helped me set up everything last year. it can be great, but if your following along with steps and not know what those steps are doing, it can be dangerous. So tonight, bout 4 hours ago, i was following a video to shrink the vm and i ended up with no access to my HA. VM was running but i couldnt connect. So i had to run a backup from proxmox, create a temp VM, open that and do all the updates again, then back that up, save it to my HD and then i could start a fresh VM install. I followed a step that didnt even apply to what i was doing... So yeah lol oops

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had i read a bit i would of figured out to just make a new VM and go that route

opal panther
lucid hinge
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Hi everyone, I have a problem integrating the beta version of Smart life into 2024.2 version. After entering the user code I receive an "Unknown Error" and cannot get the QR code. Can anyone shed a light on this please?

humble scaffoldBOT
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@lucid hinge Please do not cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

hot eagle
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I've got two network interfaces on my mini PC runnig HaOS. Will I run into problems, if I use one of these to connect my WiFi based devices (mainly Shelly) in a seperate IoT network, and use the other one for external and web frontend communication?

humble mirage
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Doing that leads to pain 99% of the time, and lots of frustration the rest of the time

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Put HA entirely on the network with all the IoT stuff, and allow access to HA from the main network (and to the internet)

empty bloom
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You can have them on separate networks, but discovery may not work and you'll need to know the hostnames or ip addresses. I.e. more work.

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and some devices have dumb requirements that make my statement also not true

hot eagle
# humble mirage Put HA entirely on the network with _all_ the IoT stuff, and allow access to HA ...

Thanks! Can you give a few hints what the main pain points are? Main reason for wanting to seperate out the IoT net is, that I want to test going native IPv6 on the main lan, and there is no chance I'll teach the Shellies IPv6. Except for the Shellies/IoT crap I think I've only got one printer that does not work well in a pure IPv6 net, but that is mainly what I want to find out 😉
With Matter coming up, of course I want HA to also be in the IPv6 native net, if possible.

humble mirage
#

The main point is that you put everything on one flat network

#

Otherwise many things won't work - HA's various discovery options, many integrations, Matter, and more

empty bloom
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why ipv6 on your internal network?

humble mirage
#

I've had that on my network for at least a couple of decades now

empty bloom
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I just don't see the point

humble mirage
empty bloom
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ah, ok

humble mirage
#

(you just need it enabled though, not native IPv6 from your ISP)

empty bloom
#

just seems like more of a pain point when you're never going to go above 4.3 billion addresses on your internal network

humble mirage
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Thankfully I've had full support for the last decade, and via a tunnel for the previous god knows how long

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Well, it's also about what you can communicate with 😉

empty bloom
#

ah, apparently it does have different functionality

eager trail
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Depending on your ISP and your Router - may have to turn it on in multiple places. I have had it from my ISP a little over 5 years now. I use 'my own' modem, and it supports IPv6, and my router is pfSense - which also supports it (once enabled and setup properly) - all my devices in my home which are capable of grabbing an IPv6 address pull one from the DHCPv6 Service on pfSense. I am not using Matter yet - but found out the latest update to my Z-Wave Dongle adds support for it (and apparently Thread), I just no idea how to use or set it all up...yet.

hot eagle
hot eagle
# empty bloom why ipv6 on your internal network?

for learning and testing, mainly. For now I've got a IPv6 only WiFi, and it works well, but now I am getting more adventurous, wanting to migrate more complicated stuff (like HA and all the smart home devices) over.

candid parcel
#

does anyone has problems to update from 2024.1.6 to 2024.01.1 ?

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VM Install

hot eagle
#

is there a typo? that is a downgrade?

candid parcel
#

Was ?

#

Ich will updaten nicht downgraden

tender wren
candid parcel
#

sure

#

i dont wanna DOWNgrade, i wanna update

#

i heard of uninstall HACS

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but it still not update

vagrant sphinx
#

The update from 2024.1.6 to 2024.2.0 didn't work for me. Neither has 2024.2.1. @candid parcel . I've disabled almost all integrations... nothing seems to fix it.

candid parcel
#

aww

#

i thought about new install

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and restore of backup

#

How do i see the logs of upgrading ?

vagrant sphinx
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Should be in supervisor logs.

candid parcel
#

do i look from ui or cli ?

vagrant sphinx
#

Or from cli do core check, core logs, supervisor logs

candid parcel
#

ok, well

#

home assistant has crashed 😄

rose quest
#

After updating v2024.2.1 my hass has stopped rebooting constantly. Thanks

old moat
#

hi all, i just added a smart light switch to my house....
i believe i wired everything properly, and I was able to connect the linked switch to my home assistnat... but even though home assistant is showing the switch as working... the lights are not turning on or off.

static current
#

Hi. So I wanted to add two-factor authentication to my HA but I can't seem to find where to enable it.

raven forge
static current
#

Oooh. I completely misread.. Found it, under my profile in HA local setup. Thanks!

#

One last question: am I reading it correctly that Nabu Casa does not have 2FA available?

grand pivot
proud stump
#

alternatively, do you get unauthorized for that? I could be IP banned

#

github docker registry is such a PITA

#

I remember messing with this before

proud stump
#

anyone who could help me get my Zooz Z-Wave Stick going on a fresh docker install?

dense zenith
#

I just received my Intel NUC and would like to install HAOS for the very first time. I followed the X64 instructions and made a bootable USB drive with the image. I then booted to the USB drive. Step three says, go to the browser and go to home assistant.local which initially look like it was working fine. However, the HAOS is still residing on the USB drive and it has not been installed on the SSD drive. I don't know what to do differently. I started to set it up and realized that I hadn't rebooted and when I took the USB drive out, it didn't know what to do of course. Could somebody point me in the right direction?

crude inlet
#

@dense zenith That's not quite how you do it. The bootable drive should be Ubuntu. Then from within Ubuntu download the HAOS image and use the built in disks utility to write that image file to the internal drive of the NUC.

dense zenith
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METHOD 2: INSTALLING HAOS DIRECTLY FROM A BOOT MEDIUM

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that's what I used

crude inlet
#

uhh...first time I've seen that method, but it looks to me to be one which assumes you want to boot from the usb device. If this is a usb flash drive you wouldn't want to do that. If it was a usb SSD or NVMe drive that would work out better.

#

A flash drive is going to be slow and likely get hot

dense zenith
#

oh...

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so i need to install Ubuntu first

#

I will start agtain

crude inlet
#

The image is not an installer. So you're either writing it to the internal drive by booting into ubuntu, or you are using it as described in method 2.

dense zenith
#

does that wipe out Ubuntu after its done?

crude inlet
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Or, you can take out the internal NUC drive, connect it to your pc with an adapter, write the image, put it back in the NUC.

#

Ubuntu would be running from the USB drive. You are using it as a tool to write the HAOS image to the internal drive

dense zenith
#

I guess I might as well start on step method 1 and see if that works better

crude inlet
#

What you do with the flash drive after that is up to you

#

It isn't used once you have written the image to the internal drive. You remove it and do what you like with it

dense zenith
#

does Ubuntu stay as the OS ? or does HAOS wipe it out

crude inlet
#

Ubuntu is on the flash drive. It is only used as a tool

dense zenith
#

oh

#

sorry, I'm slow

crude inlet
#

If you try method 1 it will probably make more sense as you go along

dense zenith
#

so I basically need to have two USB drives set up. One with the image of HAOS and one with Ubuntu.

crude inlet
#

no

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one flash drive.

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with ubuntu on it

dense zenith
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ok i will try again

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THANK YOU

#

!!!

next phoenix
#

Hi, after upgrading my install to Home Assistant OS 11.5 i have a breaking error which doesn't let me boot home assistant at all.

It is giving me the following error in supervisor logs: Error on call http://172.30.32.1:8123/api/core/state: [Errno 104] Connection reset by peer"
In the console it is also printing the following error:
Out of memory: Killed process 1791 (python3)

Tried to restore a backup (made with OS 11.5) on a fresh install still gives me the same error.

Do someone have any ideas? Thanks

grand pivot
#

what are you running HA on?

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and with what addons?

proud stump
#

chugging my way through setup.. found a random guide that is showing me how to set up a Zooz Stick in ZWave JS. Does anyone know if I need to keep track of the S2 Authenticated Keys, etc, that I am generating from the ZWave UI?

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There's a note in the Zooz Stick paperwork mentioning that it can only be factory reset by the Host Software. What I am wondering is if I can accidentally brick my device if I lose some config value for ZWave JS, or wipe my docker containers, etc

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ok cool it works

warm wyvern
#

Hi. I have HA running on a RPi but its a tad behind. Rather than update it I thought I would start from scratch on second RPi with all updated widgetry. I am running from Docker (preferred) and spent a few hours setting up, including HACS and thence onto the schedular and config editor. I had also installed the BOM weather component. So, I had to edit configuration.yml to get the config editor up. I opted to docker-compose down/up rather than resetting the server, and was surprised that my previous work had been wiped and was taken back to "Onboarding"? I am probably rusty on docker, jumping in an out only as needed. Should I have expected the setup to persist? I installed HACS using "docker exec -it homeassistant bash" and then "wget -O - https://get.hacs.xyz | bash -". I assume that only persists if container is running (not in image otherwise)? If so, is there permanent way of setting up HACS when using docker based HA please? Is there an example docker-compose.yaml that solves this please?

grand pivot
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did you map a directory to /config as part of your docker-compose.yaml, as shown in te docs?

warm wyvern
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Yep

warm wyvern
warm wyvern
warm wyvern
orchid urchin
grand pivot
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No, you will get 2024.2.1

orchid urchin
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weird

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I keep gettign 2023.1.7

candid parcel
#

does anyone know how to update to 2024.2.1 ?

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the logs says only "crashed, rollback"

raven forge
unborn wind
#

Hi everyone 👋 , I'm trying to set up mu HA yellow but after the installer finished installing Home Assistant Operating System, only the red LED is on like it should be. But once I remove the USB stick and then power it on again it just shows the red and green LED permanently on. I've already tried to flash my USB again but nothing changes. What am I doing wrong?

raven forge
tardy stag
#

When I copy my HAO installation to a new HDD, can I retrigger the partition gegrow somehow?

candid parcel
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error raised from ota webserver 404

raven forge
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I'd try ha core logs and ha supervisor logs via SSH.

candid parcel
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i use vm - how to get ssh? 😄

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because its disabled atm ?

#

the ssh addon doesnt work atm too

#

ah, worked now xD

# 
ha os update --version 2024.2.1 --log-level debug
DEBU[0000] Adding homedir to searchpath                  homedir=/root
INFO[0000] No configfile found
DEBU[0000] Debug flags                                   apiToken=123123123123 cfgFile= endpoint=supervisor logLevel=debug noProgress=false rawJSON=false
DEBU[0000] os update                                     args="[]"
DEBU[0000] [GenerateURI]                                 base=supervisor command=update section=os
DEBU[0000] [GenerateURI] Result                          uri="http://supervisor/os/update" url="http://supervisor/os/update" url(string)="http://supervisor/os/update"
⣾ Processing... DEBU[0000] Request body                                  body="map[version:2024.2.1]"
⣽ Processing... DEBU[0000] Response                                      body="{\"result\":\"error\",\"message\":\"Error raised from OTA Webserver: 404\"}" fields.time=214.011943ms headers="map[Content-Length:[67] Content-Type:[application/json; charset=utf-8] Date:[Sat, 10 Feb 2024 11:04:41 GMT] Server:[Python/3.12 aiohttp/3.9.3]]" received-at="2024-02-10 12:04:41.417944314 +0100 CET m=+0.218319992" request="&{POST http://supervisor/os/update HTTP/1.1 1 1 map[Accept:[application/json] Authorization:[Bearer 11233123] Content-Type:[application/json] User-Agent:[go-resty/2.9.1 (https://github.com/go-resty/resty)]] 0xc00016c150 0x6e9780 22 [] false supervisor map[] map[] <nil> map[]   <nil> <nil> <nil> 0xc0000d0040}" status="400 Bad Request" statuscode=400
Processing... Done.

Error: Error raised from OTA Webserver: 404
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well, i should do that with "core" instead of os 😄

# 
ha core update --version 2024.2.1 --log-level debug
DEBU[0000] Adding homedir to searchpath                  homedir=/root
INFO[0000] No configfile found
DEBU[0000] Debug flags                                   apiToken=1236512354234 cfgFile= endpoint=supervisor logLevel=debug noProgress=false rawJSON=false
DEBU[0000] core update                                   args="[]"
DEBU[0000] [GenerateURI]                                 base=supervisor command=update section=core
DEBU[0000] [GenerateURI] Result                          uri="http://supervisor/core/update" url="http://supervisor/core/update" url(string)="http://supervisor/core/update"
DEBU[0000] Request body                                  body="map[version:2024.2.1]"
⣻ Processing... DEBU[0136] Response                                      body="{\"result\":\"ok\",\"data\":{}}" fields.time=2m16.821426835s headers="map[Content-Length:[25] Content-Type:[application/json; charset=utf-8] Date:[Sat, 10 Feb 2024 11:10:32 GMT] Server:[Python/3.12 aiohttp/3.9.3]]" received-at="2024-02-10 12:10:32.379831302 +0100 CET m=+136.824445088" request="&{POST http://supervisor/core/update HTTP/1.1 1 1 map[Accept:[application/json] Authorization:[Bearer 234234234234234234] Content-Type:[application/json] User-Agent:[go-resty/2.9.1 (https://github.com/go-resty/resty)]] 0xc00016e150 0x6e9780 22 [] false supervisor map[] map[] <nil> map[]   <nil> <nil> <nil> 0xc0000d0040}" status="200 OK" statuscode=200
Processing... Done.

Command completed successfully.

but still on 2024.1.6

tardy stag
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@candid parcel How much free space do you have? x86_64 image?

candid parcel
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umm, good question

tardy stag
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Because I'm unable to upate too.

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Do you have HACS?

candid parcel
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sure

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i do have 12gb add

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rebooting

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how do i check free space @tardy stag

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oh, have 35 gb free space

tardy stag
candid parcel
candid parcel
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but didnt update

tardy stag
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Maybe there's something useful. My problem not enough free space.

candid parcel
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nope all uninstalled still no update 😄

next phoenix
# next phoenix Hi, after upgrading my install to Home Assistant OS 11.5 i have a breaking error...

Hi! I still have no clue on how to fix this problem. I've digged a bit and this is what i've found:

  • I'm still able to use the HA cli (already checked supervisor logs, nothing helpful there)
  • Addons still work, it seems just a Core issue. It stays on for like 30 seconds and then crashes giving the Out of memory: Killed process 1791 (python3) error
  • It seems to be a memory leak on Core, stopped pretty much all addons, removed automations with repeats that could be the cause, nothing helped
next phoenix
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Update: i've managed to top the host machine. The process that makes the RAM skyrocket is inside python3 -m homeassistant --config /config

There was a child process of this that said like setuptools that rapidly made the RAM go high, so i think it is an install of something. Unfortunately i have no idea on how to debug this

raven forge
next phoenix
#

Follow this and show what it says: <

midnight nacelle
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I'm a really new user in Home Assitant and i'm just forget my username. Serching for help in thw web i've found that the only way is to reinstall HA again. It's that true?, in that case, is it possible to get some information inorde to restore or restart the aplication?, thank you

raven forge
languid fog
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RPI4 model B then?

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I understand where you're coming from; judging by the pi3

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but is the pi4 an equally bad choise?

raven forge
brittle sail
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basically the only reason to buy a pi for this purpose is because you dont know any better

languid fog
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I actually bought it all already.. and can't return it

brittle sail
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sad

languid fog
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I mean

brittle star
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I'm running on a pi4 and it works perfectly fine

languid fog
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if an USFF or Mini PC is still the better way to go, I'll use the Pi4 for something else

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so that's totally fine

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but I just want to understand whether it's truly shit/not futureproof

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the pi4

brittle sail
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it depends on use case

raven forge
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If you already have a pi 4 I would use it.

languid fog
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sounds good..

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I'm also thinking to get the Home Assistant Green + Odroid n2+ package

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the odroid seems to be better than the rpi4

dusty heath
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Hello, i've installed 2 weeks ago on a VM Home Assistant and runned it without trouble. But now i wanna make it run on a rapsberry pi 3 B and i have this error at the first boot :
Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2024.01.1: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2024.01.1/json: Not Found ("No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2024.01.1")
Which totally stop the first boot...

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Any idea why this doesn't work ?

fallen lichen
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How's your disk usage

dusty heath
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Well it's a 32GB Sd card fresh install

languid fog
raven forge
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All I'm comfortable to truly recommend buying are (U)SFF/tower or Mini PCs. Just my opinion.
Many people are happy with the green and it's good for Nabu Casa I just don't like these kind of devices. Better ask someone who actually uses them.

languid fog
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Could you please recommend a specific product for me?

languid fog
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Realistically, what else would I need to buy, aside of USFF or a mini pc

brittle sail
raven forge
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@languid fog No as this depends on a lot of things. I made some rough suggestions here: <#general-archived message>
No, a yellow is none of these things. Well you might be able to describe it as a Mini PC but hmm.
Nothing. Maybe a zigbee stick if you want to use that.

brittle sail
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there's a guy who posted some stats on his n100 mini pc in #cameras-archived a while back. (super low power and cpu usage with like 10 cameras and frigate running)

languid fog
brittle sail
languid fog
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What if I'd want a ipad sized screen in my living rome, connected to HA

brittle sail
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the only thing the yellow has that this doesnt is a built in zigbee coordinator but the yellow uses an efr32 based coordinator that i dont personally use or suggest so no loss there

languid fog
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And I use my mini pc for more use cases

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Will it not work smoothly?

brittle sail
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you're worrying about weird stuff lol

languid fog
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I'm just wondering whether it'd be possible

brittle sail
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i mean the tablet has no correlation to mini pc or yellow or w/e

languid fog
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Use a android tablet for HA and still have other use cases/stuff for the Mini PC

languid fog
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Haha

brittle sail
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mini pc or yellow or w/e sits in a closet or something centrally located in your house

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tablets would just be controlled over wifi

languid fog
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Gotcha, perfectly clear now!

brittle sail
languid fog
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Want to understand why a mini pc/usff would be better than rpi4/odroid n2+

brittle sail
languid fog
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Only point to understand before I make a final decision

brittle sail
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because they are more powerful and are around the same price as worse options like SBCs

languid fog
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Gotcha

raven forge
#

And you can more things on it. Not everything supports ARM.

dusty heath
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Weird

warped epoch
#

I have set up Home Assistant on a PC at home using Hyper-V, which is always running. I've configured port forwarding on both the firewall and my Fritzbox. Unfortunately, it hasn't worked yet. I can access Home Assistant on the PC where it's installed, but it doesn't work on my phone or tablet. The server cannot be found. In my Fritzbox settings, I noticed that I have a DynDNS. I'm not familiar with this stuff; do I need to set up port forwarding or something similar there as well?

deep cedar
#

Hello, I guess stupid question, but does the supervised version overwrite CasaOS or will it be its own port?

foggy brook
#

I just migrated my home assistant to a new VM, which was working fine locally. I had the ports forwarded for Duck DNS remote access. However, when I went to the external URL, it wasn't working. Then I went to the hardware section enabled external access, and entered the domain; now I can't access it from the the local IP or the domain name.

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correction, I can access it locally again now

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still no luck with the domain

novel galleon
#

Getting started with HA this weekend. I have a Pi 4 4GB that I can put it on, but I'm wondering how that will limit my HA install. What will I be unable to do on the Pi4 vs something like a HP Elitedesk SFFPC that has more processing power and 16GB of RAM? All of my searches just yield results saying the Pi 4 will work, but nothing about what the Pi 4 can't do vs a stronger machine

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Also new to the server. sorry if this is being asked in the wrong channel.

brittle sail
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It’s the right channel or one of them

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Pi4 is fine until it isn’t

novel galleon
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Is it relatively painless to take a snapshot on the Pi4 installation and restore it to a stronger machine when I reach that point?

brittle sail
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Pretty much yea

novel galleon
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give it the same static IP, machine name, etc?

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sweet

brittle sail
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You backup, you restore, you’re done

brittle sail
novel galleon
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Right on. The Pi will only be running HA. I already have a standalone MQTT Pi 3 that handles my existing home auto setup

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Trying to keep the system as modular as possible, while also finally using all these old Pis I have collecting dust on a shelf

brittle sail
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I prefer to keep all my smart home stuff on the same box

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Hass separate from network separate from cams separate from hvac

novel galleon
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Separate hardware for each network, or are you using VLANs on one router to keep them separated?

brittle sail
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I mean if I lose my server I don’t lose my smart home

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If I lose my smart home I don’t lose my cameras, etc

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I have some stuff segmented but not all

novel galleon
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right on. that's smart. I've been needing to revamp my homelab setup. This is as good a reason as any to go over the whole thing and make it more robust and remove single points of failure

brittle sail
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I basically have a trusted ssid and lan subnet / vlan and an untrusted IoT one

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I was gonna overcomplicate it a while back and decided life’s too short

novel galleon
#

Sweet. Well, time to get started. After coffee. Lots of coffee. Thanks for the help!

sly root
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new install: HAOS error installing Home Assistant. check the logs, its an error 500 for the docker local host (client timeout exceeded while awaiting headers). swapped bare metal machines, same error. tried it in QMEU, same error. tried swapping DNS on the router, same error. tried a different router, same error. tried changing DNS in CLI, same error, left it running for 2 days, no change. uninstalled and reinstalled at least a dozen times, no change. i can access github repositories from every other machine on the network in any of the above configurations. any idea what i could possibly be doing wrong that has gotten me locked in purgatory?

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login

deep cedar
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Just wanted to double verify, HOAS Supervisor runs alongside any OS correct? It does not override it? I am using ubuntu + casaos rn

raven forge
deep cedar
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Did not see that. My bad.

placid sage
#

Hi I am reinstalling my Nabu Casa green because for some reason the Zwave add-on did not install properly and I could not see the data when attempting to make a dashboard. Is there a given sequence of installation ?

gray bobcat
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HI all updated to 2024.2-1 and nur my device in in an endless initializing cant connect someone knows how to fix it

gray bobcat
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Fixed it my self

shy epoch
raven forge
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It's so sad this has to be asked. Don't be the "NVM fixed it" guy.

gloomy reef
#

Just moved my HAOS to Proxmox. Did a backlup on the old system, installed proxmox and went throught he tutorials to install HAOS and then restored from the backup.
Everything seems ok but I cannot get USB Passthrough to work. I looked at the console and passthrough the 2 USB devices to the VM however it keeps on disconnecting. I need Coral TPU and Conbee 2 to be passed through. Any suggestion?

raven forge
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Check dmesg -T in the VM (enter login first). Maybe it says why it disconnects. What hardware is this running on?

gloomy reef
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i5-9500

gloomy reef
raven forge
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Ah, then run it on the node.

gloomy reef
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[Sun Feb 11 21:48:51 2024] cdc_acm 1-5:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[Sun Feb 11 22:07:59 2024] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, device number 3
[Sun Feb 11 22:08:05 2024] usb 2-2: new SuperSpeed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
[Sun Feb 11 22:08:05 2024] usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=1a6e, idProduct=089a, bcdDevice= 1.00
[Sun Feb 11 22:08:05 2024] usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:00 2024] usb 1-5: USB disconnect, device number 15
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:02 2024] usb 2-2: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:04 2024] usb 1-5: new full-speed USB device number 17 using xhci_hcd
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:04 2024] usb 1-5: New USB device found, idVendor=1cf1, idProduct=0030, bcdDevice= 1.00
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:04 2024] usb 1-5: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:04 2024] usb 1-5: Product: ConBee II
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:04 2024] usb 1-5: Manufacturer: dresden elektronik ingenieurtechnik GmbH

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usb 2-1 is the Coral. usb 1-5 is the conbee 2

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sorry thats a bad example as I manually disconnect that coral and change the port 🙂

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[Sun Feb 11 22:10:13 2024] usb 2-2: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:47 2024] usb 2-2: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:49 2024] usb 2-2: reset SuperSpeed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:49 2024] usb 2-2: LPM exit latency is zeroed, disabling LPM.
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:49 2024] usb 2-2: device firmware changed
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:49 2024] usb 2-2: USB disconnect, device number 4
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:49 2024] usb 2-2: new SuperSpeed USB device number 5 using xhci_hcd
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:49 2024] usb 2-2: LPM exit latency is zeroed, disabling LPM.
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:49 2024] usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=18d1, idProduct=9302, bcdDevice= 1.00
[Sun Feb 11 22:10:49 2024] usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0

digital dove
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hey I get the following error when running HA on a docker container in true nas "The following integrations and platforms could not be set up: zeroconf, default_config" Anyone know what's wrong?

distant jewel
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Hi All
Very new to discord. My house was broken into and device stolen.
Trying to desperately install a fresh copy of HA on my older Pi3B and getting an error on start up

[supervisor.core] Update '2024.01.1' of Supervisor '2023.12.1' failed!
s6-supervise watchdog: warning: finish script lifetime reached maximum value - sending it a SIGKILL
[supervisor.host.sound] Can't reload PulseAudio modules: Failed to load module: b'module-udev-detect' b''
[supervisor.host.sound] Can't update PulseAudio data: Failed to connect to pulseaudio server
[supervisor.homeassistant.core] Watchdog found Home Assistant failed, restarting...
[supervisor.supervisor] Can't fetch AppArmor profile https://version.home-assistant.io/apparmor_stable.txt: Timeout
[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2024.2.1: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/create?tag=2024.2.1&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi3-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: TLS handshake timeout")
[supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retrying in 30sec

umbral swallow
#

Hello Everyone. I want to install HomeAssistant on Proxmox preferably as a HAOS istallation. Could somebody point me to a tutorial?

grand pivot
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The installation page goes through it

umbral swallow
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Is there a dedicated proxmox tutorial?

grand pivot
umbral swallow
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thx

random river
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hey guys an idead why i cant connect to the home assitant website? home assistant itself wokrs does its auotmatios still but cant acces the website

raven forge
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Check the core logs (ha core logs) via SSH or keyboard and monitor.

random river
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unfortuilty dont have a keyboard and monitor to plug in my pi

raven forge
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Then use SSH. I don't have a better idea right now.

random river
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what if i reinstall HA? but then all my configs etc are gone right?

raven forge
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Depends on the installation method but I'd say yes. You can restore one of your backups though.

random river
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mhh okay

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can i do a backup if i just copy some files from the sc card?

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sd

raven forge
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Kind of.

random river
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because i dont think i have a backup of HA

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😅 ikd that i can do that xD

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thought its like snyced or so

humble mirage
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Don't know what made you think that

random river
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ikd anyway so there is now way i can make a backup right? and not any other ideas why i cant connect to the website but automations still work?

humble mirage
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What URL are you using?

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What did you change before it broke?

random river
humble mirage
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Try the IP instead

random river
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or wich?

humble mirage
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Yes, that

random river
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tryd all of them dont works

humble mirage
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http://ipaddress:8123/ ain't gonna work 😄

random river
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just tryd it xD

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tried

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i see HA in my router and can also ping it

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dont know if i wan to post that ip idk

humble mirage
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LAN addresses aren't secrets

random river
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in my router its says
192.168.178.52 and for home assitant but that dont works

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so can i do a backup somehow?

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so oly way is getting a monitor and a keyboard? and then? what do i have to do then?

#

doesnt HA makes a backup when it updates? cant i somehow use that?

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when i plug the sd cad in my computer all files a relativly new from 8.2.24

humble mirage
random river
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is there a way i can plug the sd card in my computer but idk wich file might be the backup

humble mirage
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You'll need to install ext2 drivers

random river
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on my pc or on the pi?

humble mirage
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On the PC, to read the SD card

random river
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ah ok gona try that

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ok its installed what now?

humble mirage
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Now plug the SD card in to the PC

random river
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yeah i did

humble mirage
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Then... somebody who knows the layout for HAOS will need to help you

random river
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ah ok but nothing changed see the same files like befor

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can i somehow run it or so?

humble mirage
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You should have more partitions now

random river
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dont see any extra ones under my pc

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only when i open ext2 volume manager

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ok see it now but cant open it because its RAW and not FAT

zinc barn
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Can I easily go back from version 2024.2.1 to 2024.1.6, since I have figured out a bug with displaying icons in mushroom-entity-cards.

humble mirage
random river
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idk i dont see a partition with HA on it or so

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i can only see a partition with only 32mb wich i could also see befor the programm and the other like 29gb is not used acordingly to windows partition manger

humble mirage
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Then you don't have ext2 drivers working yet - there should be multiple partitions showing

random river
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the onylo thing that appears is hassos boot where are files in with like 32mb and with windows show under partitions that 29gb are not "used" with the programm i linked i can see some extra partitions but there is only one withe like 1000kb

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i dont want to reinstall HA xD why does this f... website dont work i changed nothing

humble mirage
#

Well, your other option is a keyboard and monitor

random river
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and then i can surly acces something? do i need a password or something then?

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i ordered an hdmi to hdmi mini adapter so gona try that in lik 2 days when it arrives

humble mirage
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No, no password required

random river
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i hope that works xD if it does i idk have to find a way to make automatic backups and safe them on ym pc or somewhere xD

humble mirage
random river
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nice also when i have the backup could i reinstall HA to change the ssh name etc?

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and then use the backup to get back my automatiuons etc?

humble mirage
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Well... step #1 is getting access

random river
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yeah yeah i know xD i am a optimist xD

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hope thats gona work

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when i have the monitor adapter what do i have to do then do i just can open the folder or do i have to type something in or so?

humble mirage
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Well, then you'll have a console where you can type commands

random river
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ah ok

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do u know the commands or can i look them up somewhere

humble mirage
random river
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ok thx

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gona come back when i set up everything have a nice evening or morning or day idk wich time is for u xD

shy epoch
#

Hello @all it seems the HA Servers are overloaded, and the connections never work nicer.
Thins 2 day i cannot update core to 2024.2.1

desert mauve
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Hi everyone, I installed HA on a generic x86-64 system but not able to connect it. I tried to acces HA using http://homeassistant:8123/ homeassistant.local:8123 and with IP address but the browser says "homeassistant refused to connect". However http://homeassistant:4357/ works. I also ping the IP and ping goes. The system on which HA is install is connected to router using lan cable. please help.

shy epoch
desert mauve
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yes I can add monitor.

shy epoch
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Do you have the ha > prompt?

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type su info

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than su logs

desert mauve
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ok. I am connecting a monitor.

shy epoch
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to me it's same i never can cross complete the core installation. thins 2 days now all for nothing

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[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2024.2.1: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2024.2.1/json: Not Found ("No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2024.2.1")
[supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retrying in 30sec
[supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2024.2.1
[supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant with tag 2024.2.1.
[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2024.2.1: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2024.2.1/json: Not Found ("No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2024.2.1")
[supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retrying in 30sec
[supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2024.2.1
[supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant with tag 2024.2.1.

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my origin HA not works, and i did on other RPI4 2GBRAM with 250GB usb SSD a new RPI image and never finish

desert mauve
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Hi Gandalph365, I did run su info and su log. What do you want me to check? Sorry I am new in HA.

raven forge
#

Also try ha host logs and use code blocks

humble scaffoldBOT
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To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks.
```yaml
example: here
```
Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

drifting ocean
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Heya, I'm planning to move my HA database to the NAS, where all my other databases reside anyways (a QNAP with OS-built-in MariaDB on a performant SSD-Raid, scheduled backups etc). HA runs as a VM on the same NAS.
Q: Is it still required to switch MariaDB from myISAM to InnoDB, or has this been fixed in the mean time? Found contradictory statements on this on the net.

raven forge
drifting ocean
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Thanks! 🙂 I read that doc before, but wasn't sure if it is up-to-date, as there was a PR merged more than 1.5 years ago that should have solved the dbISAM issues. Other users were also reporting they were running HA with non-ISAM MySQL / MariaDB.

Why not use SQLite?
As mentioned before, amongst other reasons I want to have all my databases at the same place and manage them within ONE tool (phpMyAdmin - there is much more in my network than just HA).

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Enabling InnoDB on a QNAP NAS is a bit of a struggle, but doable. Just not sure if the changes will survive OS/App updates, so maybe I have to repeat them from time to time.

dire hornet
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How can I get the supervisor up and running from the emergency console? Only the observer is running after I had some weird behaviour with lights turning on/off randomly. I took the HA off the internet as I was suspecting some hack (as I got some failed login attempts over the last month and some banned ips)

dark silo
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hey quick question. I had my reverse proxy working it works for other webapps i run such as jellyfin, polaris, nextcloud, ect. But for some odd reason ha is giving me 400 erros when trying to load. i will past my yamal. im using caddy, a vps for my static ip, and a hyper-v vm with a static ip dedicated to the vm, and tailscale to the vps for my static ip. basically i have this setup because i cant port forward on my isp so i use a vps as that static ip instead.

grand pivot
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are you using a URL of the form ha.xxx.xx or xxx.xx/ha?

dark silo
grand pivot
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and did you review the HA logs?

dark silo
grand pivot
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base_url is deprecated

dire hornet
grand pivot
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home-assistant.log in your config directory

dark silo
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i i may see a familiar error