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fast pumice
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nvm found it in /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant

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dunno why /mnt/config exists 😄

merry thunder
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Questions about ProxMox. is this the wrong forum for that+

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?*

remote crest
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yeah its very weird

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my dns should be 192.168.1.1 can i check that its set to that

rose warren
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heya, quick question: after updating the rpi4 running HA supervised from bullseye to bookworm , i now get the following in repairs:

"Unsupported system - Operating System
System is unsupported because the operating system in use is not tested or maintained for use with Supervisor. Use the link to which operating systems are supported and how to fix this."

everything seems to be working though. any ideas? much appreciated

empty bloom
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you won't get much help here as most here have migrated away from supervised

rose warren
empty bloom
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it's largely not needed

inner shadow
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I just replaced my router with Eero mesh set up . I can't reach my home assistant box running on a thin client anymore. The machine is connected and I se the IPv4 address. I did an ha network info, but I don't really know what to do with this information or how to move forward. Anyone have any suggestions or next steps?

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I don't see the machine listed in my Eero app listed anywhere as being connected, but I unplugged the ethernet cable and connected my laptop and it had a connection.

silent shuttle
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I hate to ask the simpliest question, but i the IP range the same?

inner shadow
silent shuttle
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Whats your current IP?

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Is your HA setup with a static IP?

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If its not, have you tried rebooting your HA box, if its DHCP then it just needs to grab a new IP

inner shadow
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I don't remember having set it to a static IP. I feel like that had still been on my to do list. I have tried rebooting a few times, but nothing has changed.

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thanks for the help, much appreicated

silent shuttle
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Well you could just change your IP range on your new router

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I've been using 192.168.0 for 20 years because I'm so used to typing it lol

inner shadow
silent shuttle
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when you click automatic what values does it fill in?

inner shadow
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It collapses the fields

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I think the 192.168.0.0 might be what I need to pick

silent shuttle
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yes

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Try it see if that works

inner shadow
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I'm not controlling the load at the switch to any of the lights in my house so all of my lights have been on since yesterday 😆 . Wife has about had it

silent shuttle
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The other option is you could just connect your old router to your HA box and set static IP i the range of your new router and go that route

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and just so you know, you did set a static IP, its on that screen shot you sent 😛

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I'm also sure someone who knows a bunch more then me(I'm self taught hack who learns by breaking stuff) could tell you how to how to change the IP settings in the terminal screen too

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mcli connection show to list your connections

nmcli con show "Your Connection Name" to list the current properties of that connection

nmcli con edit "Your Connection Name" to enter edit mode for that connection

nmcli> print ipv4 will show you the ipv4 properties of that connection

To add your static IP address (select ‘yes’ for manual method);

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nmcli> set ipv4.addresses 192.168.1.10/24
Do you also want to set 'ipv4.method' to 'manual'? [yes]:

inner shadow
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honestly, I have always used 192.168.0, so I was fine with changing it. Everything has rebooted and it looks like HA is loading for me

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I would have wasted a bunch more time before putting that all together. Thank you very much for your time

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Now I think I just need to repair a million things since I changed my SSID

silent shuttle
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Great to hear!

inner shadow
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Seriously, really appreciate it. Thanks again.

rain sandal
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Hey Guys, Im new to this discord server and i don't know if this is the right channel for my question (please let me know). Today we had some power maintenance done in our town and they shut off all power for a couple hours, I didnt have time to shutdown my servers properly so they all got a force shutdown 😦

The problem now is that my HASS vm starts up but after like 20mins i get the warning "Error returned from Supervisor: System is not ready with state: setup", i've been searching in the community and on google but no solution has gotten me back online.

I just ran a supervisor repair using the CLI and I receive the following error "POST "http://supervisor/supervisor/repair": Context deadline exceeded (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)"

When I run a banner command the output looks alright but i'm unable to load the webinterface . Any help would be really appericiated because atm im sitting in a cold home because i cant turn my heating on lol 😦

I have a Hass VM running on a Synology NAS as a Virtual Machine

silent shuttle
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I can't help with this, but this reafirms my choice to have a physical thermostat that can be programmed by HA 🙂

rain sandal
fallen lichen
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I'd take a look at your logs and see what errors are showing up

versed ferry
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hi all good afternoon/evening 😛 ..... after changing from one server to a new one I am trying to recover a backup from a previous home assistant installation. Should the backup and the new installation perfectly match in versions?

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or I can install like the newest. Load the backup...and it'll work?

gleaming hawk
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anyone whom is online have any experiance with Huawei Solar

remote crest
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i couldnt get HAOS to work so i installed Supervised on Debian 12 and it works perfect!

raven forge
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For now

rose warren
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okay seems i was rejoicing too soon... after bookworm updating the RPI everything seemed to work fine BUT then i discovered i have no internet on the host machine whatsoever.

now comes the weird part: it seems supervised hassio just blocks internet access as soon as the docker container is initiated and HomeAssistant started. i can reproduce this issue by rebooting the host machine and SSHing into it immediatly it becomes available. for the time it takes the rpi to load up the docker container w hassio/supervisor i have perfect internet (ping) and then all goes to sh*t.

so it is home assistant supervisor that kills my internet during boot... any suggestions would be very appreciated as this also blocks incoming connections for my wireguard interface. tyvm

stark siren
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Hello, I just installed HA in supervisor mode on Debian running on Intel NUC. I got to the onbarding page and then chose to restore the full backup I have just taken from my other instance running on the same Debian with same HA but running on VM. The tar file of my backup is 60MB, and the restore porcess started but it has been running for an hour and it's still not finished. The observer on port 4357 is responding. I also checked the journalctl on the nuc but nothing is happening there. I also checked the 3 log files in the hassio/homeassistant folder but they are empty

fallen lichen
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In general, restores currently can take hours and there isn't a good indication of progress before its done

stark siren
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Ok thanks I will le tit go then

fallen lichen
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Not necessarily trying to convince you to go another route if you've got your mind made up, but why did you elect the supervised route instead of HA OS for a new build if you'll be dedicating the whole machine to HA?

final socket
rose warren
remote crest
rose warren
stark siren
final socket
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Who told you that? What special integration?

stark siren
stark siren
humble mirage
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Supervised is a trap for the unwary

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You will have problems where it just suddenly stops working

red bolt
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I received a new HA Yellow this week but I get lots of errors on the setup screen. It says it could take up to 20 minutes but runs for hours. I clicked the blue button and this is a part of the log:

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HA install log:
Attaching to ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-multicast with version 2022.02.0
23-10-27 09:48:10 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.multicast] Starting Multicast plugin
23-10-27 09:48:11 INFO (SyncWorker_0) [supervisor.docker.multicast] Starting Multicast ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-multicast with version 2022.02.0 - Host
23-10-27 09:48:11 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.updater] Fetching update data from https://version.home-assistant.io/stable.json
23-10-27 09:48:26 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.utils.codenotary] Timeout while processing CodeNotary
23-10-27 09:48:26 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new suggestion SuggestionType.EXECUTE_INTEGRITY - ContextType.SYSTEM / None
23-10-27 09:48:26 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue IssueType.TRUST - ContextType.SYSTEM / None
23-10-27 09:48:26 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.manager] cli does not have the latest version 2023.06.0, updating
23-10-27 09:48:26 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'PluginCli.update' blocked from execution, supervisor needs to be updated first
23-10-27 09:48:26 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.manager] Can't update cli to 2023.06.0, the Supervisor healthy could be compromised!
23-10-27 09:48:26 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new suggestion SuggestionType.EXECUTE_UPDATE - ContextType.PLUGIN / cli
23-10-27 09:48:26 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue IssueType.UPDATE_FAILED - ContextType.PLUGIN / cli
23-10-27 09:48:26 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.manager] dns does not have the latest version 2023.06.2, updating
23-10-27 09:48:26 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'PluginDns.update' blocked from execution, supervisor needs to be updated first
23-10-27 09:48:26 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.plugins.manager] Can't update dns to 2023.06.2, the Supervisor healthy could be com

humble scaffoldBOT
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humble mirage
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That looks like the Yellow came with an old, very old, version of HAOS on it. Maybe try re-flashing it?

tender wren
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Didn't CodeNotary cancel their services?

humble mirage
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Pretty sure they did

steel python
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Hi... my first post here, I apologize if wrong channel. I have a brand new installation on RPI 4, which I cannot get to work. There are components there that are crashing for not obvious reasons, supervisor, core, etc.
My request is not so much to help me, but please refer me to the development information that explains the HA's internal structure, i.e. which processes they run, where they dump which logs, such things.

humble mirage
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humble mirage
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You'd be better off sharing the logs

brazen basin
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Hi, are there someone who wants to share their ufw/iptables rules for ha container, nginx?

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It's pretty a nightmare to configure docker on ufw or iptables/nftables

raw hedge
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Still keep the firewall for the host and put ha and a couple other special containers in macvlans

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Or god forbid…. Turn off the firewall if you really want to use host networking if you think it’s a nightmare now

low notch
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Why even run a firewall on a host inside your trusted network?

remote crest
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When trying to start HAOS, i have a Supervised host working but i really want to use HAOS

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resolution info

stark siren
# fallen lichen Not necessarily trying to convince you to go another route if you've got your mi...

Ok so I took the supervised route because I was told so by the guy who did the hybrid inverter integration I needed. I asked him again and he told me that once I made it work, it will work just fine with haos. So I have few questions:
1- When I tried haos the first time, I was stuck in some haos shell instead of a Linux shell. Is there a way to get back a real linux shell?
2- I need to be able to install tailscale, this is the path I needed to take so my HA will be availale outside my chalet network since I'm behind CGNAT over there.
3- I used to create my own TLS certs to get https communication to my HA and save them in /usr/share/hassio/ssl, can I still do that with haos?

I would like to take a more standard approach like suggested but I need some degrees of freedom on the haos machine.

gleaming hawk
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🙂

remote crest
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i cant figure out my haos problems

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nvm just fixed it

fallen lichen
# stark siren Ok so I took the supervised route because I was told so by the guy who did the h...
  1. Yes, login from the ha > prompt
  2. https://github.com/hassio-addons/addon-tailscale
  3. Yes, /ssl is the standard directory within the core container and you can configure the http integration to use that cert if you'd prefer not to use a proxy

To your last point... it depends what you're all requiring with your "degrees of freedom". You don't have that really on HA OS or Supervised, you do have to do things the HA way as those systems are managed by the supervisor, you can't just do your own thing.

celest knoll
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Hi there! I recently switched to a clean install of HA OS but I restarted with a bad config file and crashed the system. How am I supposed to debug it when it crashes? I don't have any access to SSH or FTP to correct the files? Right now, it serves a 404 to all pages 😢

raven forge
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Keyboard & monitor

celest knoll
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lol I'm so used to ssh I didn't even think of that thanks! xD
What would be the id/password?

raven forge
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None other than root as user

raw hedge
low notch
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no

raw hedge
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Can’t trust your trusted network with all of those IoT devices

low notch
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put these iot devices in a vlan, make it accesible from your lan but block everything else

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let HA talk to these devices, never let anything else talk to them

brazen basin
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hA must be on the internet since I have Google home that controls my HA devices.

stark moon
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Was having issues for about a week where Home Assistant was filling the disk. Would reboot and then fill from 18% to 100% within 10/15 minutes. Wasn't able to get to the bottom of the issue, so I restored a backup. This was a week ago. My Home Assistant is still down.

I run HAOS in Proxmox and have never had issues like this before. Almost immediately after it finishes restoring (I've tried multiple snapshots from across a 4 week period), I just get systemd-coredumps or constant crashing. I've rebuilt the VM numerous times.

Kind alost for what to try at this point but don't fancy throwing in the towel after the money i've spent on hardware this year

placid sage
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I have problems with the installation, who can help me? I created the address on dukcdns, I entered it in home assistant, I completed the configuration.yaml file as per the instructions, I forwarded the ports on the router, I completed the ngnix instructions as per the documentation but now I can't access it from anywhere part, or at least, I'm confused and I no longer know if I should use http or https

humble mirage
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If you didn't add ssl_ lines to configuration.yaml then the local connections will still be http://

placid sage
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I added them

humble mirage
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Then you should remove them

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NGINX is where you configure SSL support

placid sage
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but now I can't access it anymore

humble mirage
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Sure you can

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use https://

placid sage
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without :8123?

humble mirage
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No

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https://192.168.0.42:8123/

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Just replace the IP with your own HA's address

placid sage
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don't work

humble mirage
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You're using Home Assistant OS, with add-ons?

placid sage
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yes

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takes too long to reach the address, that's what chrome tells me

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I currently have port 443 and 80 forwarded in my router

humble mirage
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English please

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Try port 4357 instead of 8123

placid sage
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why'

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?

humble mirage
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Try it

placid sage
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don't work

humble mirage
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Then your whole install is unresponsive

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Time to connect a keyboard and monitor

placid sage
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now i'm try to reinstall the so, Can you tell me a complete tutorial to follow?

humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
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The docs are linked in the channel topic

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Without knowing what hardware you're using there's no way to point you at any specific page

placid sage
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raspberry pi4

humble mirage
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Then click the link and then click the one for the Raspberry Pi

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Basically, what you did already 😛

placid sage
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only to set up the connection outside the local network

humble mirage
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You didn't buy the Pi already with HA installed though, so you must have done this installation already

fallen junco
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can someone help me? I'm trying to install home assistant on my RPi 3b+ und I always get a weird error (wish I could a picture here, but I can't)

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fallen junco
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okay

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tried to install it with instructions on raspbian/a linux system first but that one didnt work too (due to smth different)

humble mirage
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404 Error for docker usually is a result of one of these things:

  • The image tag you are trying to use does not exist (if this is the case you will see the word 'manifest' in the error)

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fallen junco
fallen junco
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I cant even find smth similar by googling different things

humble mirage
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What size of SD card did you use?

fallen junco
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32gb

humble mirage
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That should be ok

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fallen junco
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okay

sand solar
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Best version to install? using windows as base --- Or I guess which of the 4 versions is the best?

humble mirage
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Well, on Windows you only have two choices

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The "best" solution for that would be a VM running HAOS

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(VMs on Windows have a history of problems, caused by Windows)

sand solar
humble mirage
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Well, if you're comfortable building software from source, go Core

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Smart people use HAOS or Container (Docker)

sand solar
humble mirage
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Core requires you to build Python from source at least once a year, often more

humble mirage
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In this day and age Docker makes live so easy, there's no good reason to not use it

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And no, Docker in WSL won't work, as you don't get host networking

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That's why the docs are clear that it's not a supported option

sand solar
humble mirage
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And you'll have to do it for 3.12.x soon

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And maybe another 3.12.x release before 3.13

sand solar
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For when I want to upgrade to the newest HA version eh?

humble mirage
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Well, that's easier

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That's just pip install --upgrade

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(and well explained in the docs)

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But with Docker you just pull and recreate the container

sand solar
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Ahh but I cant use docker with WSL windows you say

humble mirage
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No, so your only choices are a VM, or Core

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A VM will be the least bad option

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At least until you rebuild that host to use Linux 😛

sand solar
humble mirage
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grand pivot
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strike 2

humble mirage
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The VM gives you add-ons, if you want them, but you don't need add-ons

sand solar
fallen junco
sand solar
tender wren
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Do yourself a favor and don't use Hyper-V

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At least if you are planning to use USB dongles

sand solar
# tender wren At least if you are planning to use USB dongles

No idea what I'm planning to use, it was causing me some suffering trying to decide how to give it access to the outside network though --- I did install HA through both ways but I broke the Ubuntu version while trying to upgrade python to 3.11 the first time... Then I went back today and redid the ubuntu setup

drifting quarry
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Is there anything i need to manually reconfigure after installing HAOS from a backup? or is it a real 1:1 copy?

flint island
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I just downloaded and installed the Hyper-V image and am receiving an error:

homeassistant.components.hassio.handler.HassioAPIError: Update of Supervisor failed: Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2023.10.1: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2023.10.1/json: Not Found ("No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2023.10.1")

I've rebooted, expanded disk, and verified connectivity. Any ideas on how to resolve this? I tried to SSH as well but I can't add the addon for it

fallen junco
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i get the same error trying to install home assistant on my raspberry pi xd

flint island
flint island
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I just reinstalled the image but expanded the disk first and it worked the second time.

glacial light
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Hi, I'm looking for advice how I can track what causing hanging in home Assistant on Raspberry Pi 3. Is started somewhere at begin of current year. I thought that is caused by MariaDB that was below requirements (Synology). Recently Synology updated version of MariaDB so should be fine. Unfortunate issue is persistent. Every 3-5 days at around 1-2 am Home Assistant stops being responsive. I have to physically restart Raspberry. I don't see anything in logs that would give me some insight. Ideas, thoughts about what debug I can use to find what is a cause? I use Home Assistant OS.

karmic bay
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When entering certain elements of my dashboards stuff like history is not working (anymore). Checking the browser log I see at lot of 404 requests. For example: /unknown/src/elements/element.point.ts

Any ideas where that /unknown is coming from?
i'm running the latest HA core version.

raven forge
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I'd recommend you share the errors in full

karmic bay
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https://ha.home.mydomain.tld/unknown/src/scales/scale.time.js results in 404 Not Found.

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stark moon
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I’ve rebuilt my promox vm multiple times over the last week and tried restoring multiple backups. They all restore fine and then immediately start having issues. Constant systemd-journal dumped core

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At a loss for what to try and where to turn to for help

granite nebula
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hi, i have ha running as a vm on esxi 8 on a n100 mini pc, is it normal for a new instance of HAOS with a bare config to start the gui to have 6-7% usage? i am asking because the my instance of HAOS is using 40-60% cpu and it seems very high

subtle oracle
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I'm going to deploy homeassistance OVA file for vmware esxi and I noticed the OVA has a lot of explicitly enabled advanced configuration options. I don't know if some/any of them are even needed here, some of the things are just... default?

Vcenter is telling me:

svga.present = TRUE
usb:0.port = 0
usb:1.speed = 2
ctkEnabled = TRUE
usb:0.deviceType = hid
cpuid.coresPerSocket = 2
usb:1.port = 1
usb:1.parent = -1
usb:0.parent = -1
sata0:0.ctkEnabled = TRUE
usb:0.present = TRUE
usb:1.deviceType = hub
usb:1.present = TRUE

granite nebula
subtle oracle
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I figured most wasn't the case I just didn't know if some was explitly defined for a real reason.

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like I already changed the default disk controller from LSI Parallel (the horror) to PVSCSI and first boot did not care

subtle oracle
granite nebula
subtle oracle
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Honestly, you get 10x the iops and WAY less usage by switching to PVSCSI to the point that it should probably be notated on the documentation page

granite nebula
granite nebula
subtle oracle
granite nebula
subtle oracle
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I happened to just read that a few minutes ago because i'm trying to deploy today

granite nebula
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thanks, let me change it back i guess

subtle oracle
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Should I be able to migrate my docker install and config to a new core OVA deployment without bumps?

I did a backup from my existing system, then said to restore on the welcome page for the new machine. It's just sitting and spinning at restore in progress.

Is there a better way for me to see where things are at or stuck?

It's been over an hour at that screen on a ryzen host that's prettymuch idle

granite nebula
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sorry im useless at this, i didnt want to deal with all the export/import stuff so i copied everything over manually

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i couldnt even get ha to connect to the network when i deployed it on my synology nas with a aggr connection

subtle oracle
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I've been running docker forever because I thought it would be easiest and the most flexible but my zwave stuff has been dead for forever and it really seemed like the OS is the way to go now

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I figured out my problem, I had to browse to the page using the IP instead of the name. Because I was restoring the config as part of an import wizard to a new machine it tried keeping the old machine name in the user URL in the config file

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That might be a good check to exist in the import wizard to prevent this kind of failure for people restoring the config to a new device

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I also just noticed when I went to reboot after importing and changing things that Settings > System has a sub text identifier that says "reboot your system" but there is no button to reboot your system under system. You have to go to developer tools

tiny ginkgo
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Hey all... trying to get HACS installed on my friends HA and when i click HACS on the left it just shows me a HACS incon with downaloads and stars. Mine looks totally different as i have installed mine a while back and didnt run into this. Did i miss something?

grand pivot
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Yes. You enabled experimental mode

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It's fine, just enjoy it

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There's nothing wrong

tiny ginkgo
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can i disable experimental mode?

grand pivot
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Yes

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Or just enjoy it

tiny ginkgo
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uninstall and reinstall and not check the box?

tender wren
tiny ginkgo
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he got it turned off...

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Thanks all.. 🙂

main blade
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I am preparing to setup HA for the first time, and am thinking of running it in Docker on a seconary machine which I use as a server. Does this limit me to not using addons?

grand pivot
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Yes. But you can run whatever containers or software you want

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You don't need any addons

main blade
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Is there a database of the container replacements to addons somwhere so I don't have to spend hours looking for them?

grand pivot
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Googling is usually quite easy

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Something something docker container

silent ferry
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hi there, can anyone help me trying to find i call it the docker container hostconfig.json on a homeassistant os running on rpi 4 ?

in a standard linux setup this file would be located under:

/var/lib/docker/containers/[hash_of_the_container]/hostconfig.json

manic bane
silent ferry
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2nd becuase its the same location where i would like to have access because my remaining space and overlay2 mounts...

manic bane
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If you're wanting that much control over a system you shouldn't be using HAOS

silent ferry
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think thats the point.... shouldt use haos

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it was my first try and install and they catched me somewhere it says u can only use addons with this version ...

but after i realized there is hacs... and u dont need those haos addons most times u can do it another way to achieve a better goal...

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so thats what i was scared of....

manic bane
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Add-ons are not hacs
They are two different things

Hacs is third party integrations

Add-ons are glorified docker containers

silent ferry
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okay then forget this question because... i will need to reinstall the other way...

but is there a way to bkp or extract the database information of my power plug incase of the energy measuring and after the new setup import it so that i dont loose the collected data ??

becuase i never found a easy way for doing this i think maybe there is a hacky way over inspecting the database and extract it manually ..

but else after installing the new linux system with running ha in a docker container in it i'll have to add a new power plug... set energy monitoring ... and only can work with the data collected since the new setup right ??

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this would be my only thign to care of the energy data before the new setup... the rest i can build again wont make a change

humble scaffoldBOT
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Backup

Open your Home Assistant instance and Back up your Home Assistant installation

silent ferry
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so one last...

without further reading on this from me, will there be some kind of performance losses if i setup homeassistant the other way withoutz the one click haos setup ?

or is it jsut the one "main" thing i will loose the option to work with the addons from home assistant and instead use all from hacs ?

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but to get to your main wuestion why i wann get there i nthe overlayfs is

You can change the port mapping by directly editing the hostconfig.json file at /var/lib/docker/containers/[hash_of_the_container]/hostconfig.json

You can determine the [hash_of_the_container] via the docker inspect <container_name> command and the value of the "Id" field is the hash.

Stop the container (docker stop <container_name>).
Stop docker service (per Tacsiazuma's comment)
Change the file.
Restart your docker engine (to flush/clear config caches).
Start the container (docker start <container_name>).

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this was why i stumbled upon... wanted to change a hostconfig.json of a running container where i modified a lot of things and those fixes would get lost by running a new or duplicated container just to add a thing like 1 port forwarding...

i know i could use another container and using this as reversed proxy within the same network

but the 2nd reason would still be there ill send a screenshot

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site --> 28gb used -->22.8gb --> available: 4.1gb

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and if i check in the home assistant terminal i dont find all the files that used by my docker conatianers

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but jeah i will bkp and reinstall ^^

my problems should then be fixed 🙂

wraith knoll
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Hi all, does anyone know if skyconnect supports Zigbee 1.2 as well?

humble mirage
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Hi all, does anyone know if skyconnect

tacit spade
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hello everyone, just moved my unraid server to a new case and started up VM's and now HA is in rescue mode, any ideas or links anyone has?

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

humble mirage
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Without the logs we'd only be guessing randomly

tacit spade
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how would i go about getting the log file? there is journalctl -xb in the vnc window but i donmt think i can copy paste anything from there

humble mirage
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That, and any messages on the console, are going to be what we need

tacit spade
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i tried sending a file but the thread wont let me

raven forge
tacit spade
humble mirage
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You paste it to a code share site

tacit spade
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github?

humble mirage
raven forge
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😄

tacit spade
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oh lol

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fml

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okay

raven forge
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You can't copy from the VNC window but you can add a serial device to the VM and use xterm to be able to do so. Assuming you use proxmox. Idea's the same for others.
Otherwise use imgur or whatever but logs as text are preferred.

tacit spade
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this is just the log view from the VM tab of the HA VM

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ill work on getting the full log

raven forge
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That does not look like what we're looking for

tacit spade
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dang okay ill get the journal command log from the vnc window

raven forge
tacit spade
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this seems to be from docker tho?

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im running HA as a VM in unraid

brazen basin
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hi all... is there someone using HA on Docker and has a solution on how to notify the docker containers updates?

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how can I check if there are updates on the docker images?

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I am thinking on mixing cron jobs with ha command_line... but... how...

raven forge
tacit spade
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full log

raven forge
tacit spade
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tried typing journalctl -f -u hassos-supervisor.service

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i just get this back

brazen basin
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does it output something to a file and then you read it on HA using command_line?

raven forge
stark moon
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Why is my storage constantly filling up. It’s driving me insane. I’ve been trying to figure this out for over a week. I’m sick of rebuilding my Proxmox VM and restoring various backups only to be met with the same issue.

I don’t know what I should be looking for. It’ll restart on 20% storage use and within a few hours it’ll max out 64gb and crash

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I’m not seeing anything glaring except systemd-journal dumps

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Where can I turn to for guidance on figuring this out

raven forge
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Type gdu in the search bar here. I've written a lot about how to check for where your space is going in the past

stark moon
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I'll have a look and see if I can figure out how to make use of that within proxmox because presumably I can't use that in HA CLI

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whelp I clearly have no idea what I'm doing.

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Installed gdu onto proxmox and that's as far as i could figure out

raven forge
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Use the VNC console of the VM, enter login then follow that: <#general-archived message>
If you add a serial device to the VM (requires a cold boot) you can use xterm (little arrow next to Shell) which allows you to copy paste

stark moon
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unknown command "cd" for "ha"

raven forge
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Did you enter login first?

stark moon
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ah

raven forge
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Also check df -h while you're at it

tepid cobalt
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Hi, im trying to do a fresh install on my rpi4 8GB with a SSD. Im following this guide: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi/
When starting up the pi I get the following error:

[supervisor.store.git] Can't clone https://github.com/esphome/home-assistant-addon repository: Cmd('git') failed due to: exit code(128)

In this thread recommended dns settings are 8.8.8.8, I set it as dns on the router and restarted the router and did the whole installation again, however same result.
Then I tried the following:
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/solution-to-a-hanged-preparing-home-installation-screen-during-new-install-on-a-raspberry-pi-4-dns-fix/273803
With no result either. Anyone how to solve this?

raven forge
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What does ha network info, ha resolution info and ha dns info look like?

stark moon
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Getting like 0 response from vnc so think somethings crashed somewhere

stark moon
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Completely unable to type | in vnc apparently

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keeps coming out as >

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never mi d it just changed to a |

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weird

tepid cobalt
raven forge
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192.168.0.100 is a strange ip for a gateway. Can you try ha supervisor repair?

tepid cobalt
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command completed succesfully, doing network info gateway is still the same

stark moon
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still running the initial scan and it's already over 30gbs. Which is significantly more than it should be

raven forge
raven forge
humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

tepid cobalt
raven forge
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I meant in HAOS' shell

tepid cobalt
raven forge
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Enter login first

tepid cobalt
raven forge
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Hmm. Everything (other than the issues) you shared looks good "on paper". Maybe there's more in the log. Check ha supervisor logs

stark moon
tepid cobalt
raven forge
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Can you also try docker pull ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.10.5?
Github was kinda slow while I was veryfing that I typed this correctly.

tepid cobalt
raven forge
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Can you share the complete thing?

tepid cobalt
raven forge
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I'm a bit puzzled to be honest. You can try disabling dns fallback

tepid cobalt
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thanks for your help, im puzzled as well... Tried some more things but nothing seems to help. Maybe an idea to try to install it using a different network, then trying to get it to work on my own network

timber plover
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I’m trying to install Supervised but it’s impossible because systemd-resolved has been removed from Linux… Is there a way to work around this? I’m trying to avoid running a VM on this MiniPC so I can have it also be a media player.

raven forge
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Check the issues in the github repo for workarounds

humble mirage
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Though you will have problems with it becoming unsupported based on what you wrote there

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You'll be 100% better off running a VM for HAOS, or just using Docker

timber plover
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What would be the best way to have Ubuntu start the Docker container on boot?

grand pivot
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It should do it automatically for containers that were running at shutdown. Or maybe you need restart: unless-stopped, which I have for all my containers

final socket
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I know the documentation for that install method tells you to add that flag.

knotty viper
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Hey! I've flashed Home Assistant on an SD card and tried to install it. I have gone through the logs and realised that the date and time are wrong. Can I change them somehow from a command line?

empty bloom
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set your date/time in the general settings

tender wren
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Time and date are pulled from the internet via NTP on boot. What time exactly is wrong? System stuff is in UTC. You set your timezone in Settings - System - General or in your user's settings

knotty viper
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I havent installed it yet, installation ends in an error because date time is wrong

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I think the issue is that NTP does not work in my network

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Is there a way around this?

low notch
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certificates will have problems while establishing a secure connection when time is wrong yes

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you can setup a local ntp server (most routers can do)

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else fix your network

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ntp is somewhat crucial

knotty viper
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Ah

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Thank you so much

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I'll see if I can get NTP somehow

sonic current
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what hurdles should i expect when i migrate from a rpi4 home assistant os installation to a fresh home assistant os installation in a proxmox container on an intel nuc and import a recent backup?
my main concern would be the usb zigbee stick that gets a new device path for sure so i would need to reconfigure this in z2m, will the zigbee mesh still be operational after importing the backup and reconfiguring z2m to use the correct device path to the zigbee stick? also will my collected data from the zigbee devices (mostly energy measurements from solar panels and different zigbee plugs to monitor energy usage) still be useable and connected to the same zigbee entities?

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what other hurdles could i run into?

raven forge
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A proxmox container can't run HAOS. Mesh does not care about that. The data should stay the same. Your ip might change though but that's fixable

sonic current
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what would be the reason for HAOS cannot run in a proxmox container as there are several how tos in the net that seem pretty straight forward?

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or does "cannot" translate to "is not supported"? 🙂

low notch
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there is no such thing as "proxmox container"

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there is either docker or lxc container on proxmox

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but proxmox doesn't even support docker (you can get it to work though)

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proxmox is primarily a webui for a hypervisor

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hypervisor is something that runs Virtual Machines

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virtual machines are very different from containers

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so yes, you can get HAOs on proxmox, not with a container though

sonic current
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-_-

autumn gale
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Helping a friend installing Home Assistant, we started today with the image from raspberry pi imager. We installed openssh and then we installed HACS. But HACS does not look as on mine, anyway we still installed some cards like the custom entity row, and the Sonos card. When we try to use those card we get the message that they do not exist. Even though I am able to find them in the www folder. If this is not the right plase to post, I hope I can be excused and pointed in the right direction. Anyway I do hope some can help us. BR Freddy

tender wren
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  1. You are propably using experimental mode in HACS
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  1. You need one not autogenerated dashboard ("take control") for the HACS cards to be included automatically. Otherwise you would have to add the ressources yourself in Settings - Dashboards - dotsvertical menu - Ressources
autumn gale
tender wren
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Easiest way would be to remove and re-install the cards in my opinion

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And refresh the browser cache

autumn gale
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Do I need to install HACS again?

tender wren
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No

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Only the cards

autumn gale
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ok, but why do the HACS look så different?

tender wren
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You propably set the checkmark at "Use experimental features"

grand pivot
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you just need to enjoy the new look

autumn gale
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ah, thank you.

grand pivot
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there's a frustrating desire to just blow it up and go back, rather than looking at the new interface

tender wren
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And the update entities

grand pivot
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it's not broken, and there's nothing wrong

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it's better, enjoy it

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or you can just go install Windows 95 and live in the past

tender wren
autumn gale
grand pivot
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I feel like the moment that it becomes the only choice, frogs will start falling from the sky

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it is the future

tender wren
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Frogs falling from the sky is the future note

grand pivot
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I, for one, welcome our new amphibian rulers...

tender wren
brittle sail
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ribbit

grand pivot
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Perhaps Ludeeus should display a modal popup on first HACS launch with experimental mode enabled with "DO NOT PANIC. DO NOT ADJUST YOUR TV SET. EVERYTHING IS OKAY. TYPE SOMETHING IN THE SEARCH BAR OR TOGGLE THE FILTER TO CONTINUE."

tender wren
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Hitchhiker's Guide to the Repositories

autumn gale
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Grateful for youre fast and good answers.

tender wren
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Cards back on track?

low notch
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how to upgrade hacs to new look?

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tried installing again like the how to says

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help

tender wren
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Settings - Devices & Services - Integrations - HACS > - Configure - Enable experimental features

low notch
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oooooohh

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thx

tender wren
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the HACS update sensor will be replaced by update entities

grand pivot
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Now you can evangelize it to the masses

tender wren
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"Hello! We are from HACS and would like to talk to you about experimental features!"

grand pivot
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The HACS team...of 1

tender wren
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Keeps the team meetings short and the christmas party affordable

jade grail
#

Hello everyone,

I'm trying to access Bluetooth hardware throuth the docker container inside WSL. any one can help please and Thank you.

sonic current
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i installed a fresh haos and trying to recover the backup into it from the landing page, it is spinning for 1.5 hours now and nothing seems to happen ... any way i can check any logs for possible errors or progress?

raven forge
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You can connect a keyboard and monitor and run supervisor logs. I believe there's also a circle you can click to get info. What hardware is this? How big is the backup?

knotty viper
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Hey, if I get an error when installing home assistant, is there any way to fix it using command line

raven forge
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That's way too vague. What error? What installation method?

knotty viper
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I'm installing on an rpi 4 and NTP is not available in my network so I want to set the date and time manually using some command line

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I managed to setup a local NTP server but home assistant is not using it so if you can help me with that, that's also good

humble mirage
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Hello everyone,

humble mirage
knotty viper
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Yes, but not all ports are open to the internet, port 123 for NTP happens to be one of them

manic bane
knotty viper
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My network provider does that 😔

manic bane
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Your network provider prevents any devices on your network from accessing network time? How strange

viscid glacier
viscid glacier
empty bloom
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if what you're saying is true, then none of your devices anywhere have the correct or a synced time.

knotty viper
knotty viper
raven forge
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Hod did you verify that it's blocked? If it really is, perhaps talk to the admin(s) there

empty bloom
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That's the first thing I'd do. Any sane network admin can set up a firewall rule that allows NTP access

viscid glacier
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As (almost) every device needs that service I can’t imagine it’s blocked.
There will be all kinds of issues if it was

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Anything SSL would be broken

sonic current
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after about 3 hours i opened another tab and opened https://myip:8123 and was presented with a login, i was able to login and everything seemed to be there but just not sure the recovery actually restored everything or if anything is still missing. even after rebooting the device the recovery tab just kept spinning circles as if it didn't even notice the device rebooted. maybe some kind of timeout happened and the recovery tab lost connection to HA and didn't even notice?

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maybe its because the fresh install works with http and after recovering only https is available so the recovery page can never verify the recovery actually finished?

real ledge
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hello, i am trying to move my home assistant [non os] setup from my nas to my new server. i backed it up but i see no option to restore. online guides say there should be an option to on the first start screen but there isn't.

i even went through the setup and sftp'd the backup and it sees it under Backups but no option to restore.

i also tried just copying the config folder over and restarting HA but i don't see my automations

manic bane
real ledge
humble mirage
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You only get the restore option with Home Assistant OS

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If you pick native Docker, which is what CasaOS uses, then you don't get that, or add-ons

real ledge
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kinda dumb tbh

humble mirage
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CasaOS is a clusterfuck when it comes to HA

real ledge
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so just to clarify, if i do the native docker way, i'll be able to restore?

empty bloom
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ah another casaos victim

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No, backup/restore is only a thing w/ specific install versions

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Home Assistant OS, Home Assistant Supervised

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all other options you manually restore by unzipping your config

real ledge
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i don't understand that logic but ok...

empty bloom
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it's the nature of the method you're using

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which is a docker container

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there's nothing to restore in a docker container and a docker container can't adjust it's configuration files while it runs

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how can it perform a task that modifies itself while still running?

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the other install methods have a manager that does that for you

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that runs as a separate container

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it would be like you trying to operate on yourself if you were a doctor

humble mirage
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The expectation is that if you're using Docker you can handle running a few commands to extract files to wherever you need them

real ledge
brazen basin
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I have a fresh new HA Container installation running on Ubuntu Server 23.10... it works like a charm with firewalls, fail2ban, ecc. on a Raspberry Pi4...
I use a USB SDD for the OS...
Will I be able to run this installation on a Pi5 by simply attaching the USB SSD to the Pi5?

empty bloom
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Either way, Many people here will highly recommend that you ditch casaos and go with HAOS.

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as they both have the same functionality in the end

real ledge
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ok

humble mirage
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Or embrace Docker... and ditch CasaOS 😛

manic bane
empty bloom
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I joined the casaos discord to see what the deal was, it offers nothing special aside from a UI that manages docker containers

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pre-made docker containers it seems

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so, basically synology but free and probably worse overall

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and that has all sorts of issues running HA

manic bane
brazen basin
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yes that is the idea... will see... thanks!

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Raspberry Pi is way more than enouogh for HA, don't know why they are pushing new hardware...

manic bane
empty bloom
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🤷‍♂️ i didn'tlook at that, I just looked at what it was

manic bane
brazen basin
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I don't know who is behind the project that pushes new hardware like the HA Green and Orange

humble mirage
brazen basin
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but I sincerely don't see the point in that hardware for the use case

manic bane
empty bloom
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no where are they saying "don't run on a rpi"

manic bane
brazen basin
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I sincerely don't get the point of that hardware when there is a Pi...

manic bane
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People can run HA on any device
I run it on a system with dual xeon CPUs
Because I don't just run HA, I run a lot of other services too

empty bloom
brazen basin
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but it's probably my fault and my ignorance

empty bloom
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and it's still difficult

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and the price point on pi's are almost tripple what the green costs

manic bane
empty bloom
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green is $100, try to find a pi w/ a case and power adapter and put together for less than $100

manic bane
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Not everyone wants to tinker, a device they can plug in and have it 'work' is great for some

empty bloom
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personally, I have no interest in running HA on all 3 of those options.

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no ssd, not worth my time

brazen basin
empty bloom
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Yeah thats over $100 usd

brazen basin
empty bloom
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and it's a kit, you have to put it together

brazen basin
manic bane
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Also the point of HA is run it on whatever hardware you want, Pi, Nabu Casa devices (which again, the yellow is a pi, its not recommending you to avoid Pis), a NAS, or hell a full on racked server

empty bloom
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pi's don't use SSD's they use an SD card

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SSD == solid state drive

brazen basin
empty bloom
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and how easy was that to install?

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and configure in HA?

brazen basin
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I used it with HA OS before, and using the same hardware with HA Container now

empty bloom
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wouldn't it be nice to just have a computer show up and work w/o any configuring?

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Why yes it would! Great, now you understand the green and yellow

brazen basin
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ok thanks for the explanation petro

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It's more clear now 🙂

tender wren
manic bane
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Anyone I know who's gotten a yellow has loved it lol

brazen basin
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ok, it's more clear, I never think at the "easy part" and this is my mistake

waxen canopy
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Hi all: I just moved my HAOS from SD to SSD on my Raspberry Pi. I restored from my back-up and everything is working fine. However, I cannot open any add-ons. I keep getting "add-on not started", while I can already use (for instance) my Z2M devices from my dashboard.

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When I click "start add-on", nothing happens

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I already cleared my cookies and restarted HA

humble mirage
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You may need to reboot

brazen basin
waxen canopy
waxen canopy
humble mirage
waxen canopy
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Just checking to make sure 😄

brazen basin
waxen canopy
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That worked, thanks peeps!

final socket
brazen basin
#

I just want to thanks all the people on this discord server that makes HA more accessible. Thank you guys. HA is amazing an you are part of it.

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As tinkerer shows me every time, I'm a bit dumb sometimes and I overlook some basics, confronting with you and with your ideas is always interesting. Thanks guys.

sonic current
sonic current
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sweet, everything back online 🙂

void bloom
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hello I have config home assistant on a VM and the IP is 10.0.2.15:8123 and when I put the IP on Google it doesn't work...

empty bloom
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define "on google"

humble mirage
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You would put that into your browser's URL bar, ideally with http:// before it

severe oak
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hey, I'm on mac os M2 silicon, can i install the HA on docker ?

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i just wanna test it out and play around until i get a pi

humble mirage
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No, Docker on Mac doesn't support host networking

severe oak
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But im getting erorrs

docker: Error response from daemon: Mounts denied: 
The path /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG is not shared from the host and is not known to Docker.
You can configure shared paths from Docker -> Preferences... -> Resources -> File Sharing.
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Ahh so thats why i coudnt connect to localhost

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When i had it working before, ok.

humble mirage
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Also, PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG you're supposed to change 😉

severe oak
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yeah i changed it but then

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It wouldnt load localhost:8213 or w/e

severe oak
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what about on WSL ubuntu, can i run docker one there?

humble mirage
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No

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Again Docker on Windows, whether WSL or not, doesn't support host

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(this is why the Windows docs also don't list it)

stone glade
#

okay i am very VERY new to this. can i run this on a chromebooks hardware if it doesn’t have ethernet? or is it impossible to set up?

low notch
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you can use usb ethernet adapters but that is prone to fail at some point

stone glade
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okay i will get one

coral sequoia
#

Hi someonehelp me, if im update, it updates and turns on HA and then after a few seconds it restarts itself and is back to the old version

severe oak
#

what about if i install ubuntu 22.04 on my Rapsebrr Pi 4, and docker

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Will the container version work there?

void bloom
raven forge
void bloom
void bloom
raven forge
void bloom
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nop

raven forge
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Might be a issue with your VM's networking

severe oak
void bloom
raven forge
severe oak
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I just installed Ubuntu 22.0 on my raspberry pim, so if i instlalk the docker container verison of hoem asistant ill be good to go ? r do i need ot do anything else, sorry that was my q

void bloom
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i download " haos_ova-11.1.vdi " and upload to Oracle Virtual Box

raven forge
#

How is the networking configured for the virtual machine?

raven forge
void bloom
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How so ? it's virtualBox on my pc which is connected via ethernet

raven forge
#

Share a screenshot of the VM's details page

humble scaffoldBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

void bloom
raven forge
#

That's not the details page

void bloom
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that ?

raven forge
void bloom
void bloom
raven forge
void bloom
raven forge
#

Maybe you only have WIFi or something. Not sure 🤷

void bloom
void bloom
raven forge
coral sequoia
#

Hi someonehelp me, if im update, it updates and turns on HA and then after a few seconds it restarts itself and is back to the old version

spiral stag
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[EDIT: it finished] I'm installing version 2023.11.0 and it says "installing" for the last 30 min or so. It seems stuck. What can I do?

abstract basalt
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Hi all , i have migrated my HASOS from a virtualbox ubuntu , to a Bare metal Proxmox + hasOS container , i would like to maintain the audio output i had before on that machine , but i after reading a lot about proxmox, and audio i still coudnt make it to work , any ideas on how to approach this configuration on proxmox to make the audio paththrough to work ?

zinc cove
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For me the update fails too

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Seems like something failed with the rollout @shut rivet

scenic grove
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installing home assistant, followed the docs but got

severe oak
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last step following the guide

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how long does hass command takje , it says creating defaul configuration

grand pivot
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tail home-assistant.log

severe oak
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its still going i guess?

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And its been sitting for a while

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cursor flashing

severe oak
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now its not findng the sqllite3 database at /home/homeasisstant/.homeassistant/

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but im in srv/homeassistant

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but theres nothing i /home/homeassistant, just a blank folder

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why is instlaling this on ubuntu22.02 so confusing lol

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is there not an updated guide ? I am a bit confused

grand pivot
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why are you trying to install Core?

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perhaps the confusion is coming from the fact that you've chosen the most challenging installation method, and there's usually no reason to use it

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the two sane installation methods are HAOS and container

dusk flicker
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Our volunteer group needs help with installing Home Assistant, and we will provide a $200 Amazon gift card for your help. We would like you to help us connect up a garage door opener for our group. We are using YoLink software, which has a preconfigured template for Home Assistant.

fallen lichen
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What are you currently stuck on / need help w/?

severe oak
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ohh

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ok

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ill do supervised?

tender wren
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No!

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Do yourself a favor and don't!

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Either HAOS as an appliance or the Docker container install

latent thistle
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Restarted after 2023.11b5 update and can't see it on network

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Rebooted even but still no response

grave monolith
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I had HA installed on a computer, now I have it on a Raspberry Pi. how do I change it to run off the Pi and not the computer?

brittle sail
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backup then restore from backup then reboot then profit

severe oak
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container it is

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what user should i do it under, root or ?

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the homeasistant user i made

severe oak
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okay do i need to do anything now ? It wont load

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the docker container is running

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and i do ip addr

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do i need to use the docker adatper ip ? or eth0

low notch
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to do what?

severe oak
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i installed it now i wanna access the UI

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which is the IP of the pi, but nothing

low notch
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how did you start the container?

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which command did you use?

severe oak
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sudo docker run -d --name homeassistant --privileged --restart=unless-stopped -e TZ=America/New_York -v /homeassistant/config:/config --network=host ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable
low notch
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do a docker logs homeassistant and see if it starts

severe oak
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s6-rc: info: service fix-attrs successfully started
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: starting
s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully started
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services: starting
services-up: info: copying legacy longrun home-assistant (no readiness notification)
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services successfully started
2023-11-01 23:13:43.905 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.sonos] Subscription to 192.168.1.237 failed, attempting to poll directly
2023-11-01 23:13:47.885 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.sonos] Subscription to 192.168.1.100 failed, attempting to poll directly
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thsi is my first time ever using it im trying to set it up from scratch on a rasberry pi running ubuntu 22.04

low notch
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it should give you a updating feed if you do
docker logs -f homeassistant

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why does it search for something sonos?

severe oak
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no idea

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I have sonos

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but i didnt set anuything up

low notch
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then do docker stop homeassistant

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empty the contents of /homeassistant/config

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and docker start homeassistant

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or better just delete whole /homeassistant/config

severe oak
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i did

low notch
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it should be created again automatically

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docker ....

severe oak
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oh DUR

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ok it started

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i think,But i stil lcant connect on browser

low notch
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do a curl 127.0.0.1:8123 on the pi

severe oak
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root@deerpi:/homeassistant# curl 127.0.0.1:8123
root@deerpi:/homeassistant#

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nothing

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(it made the new config dir btw)

low notch
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that is weird, and you didn't do anything before setting that container up?

severe oak
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nope

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maybve cuz i did it as root? idk

low notch
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that shouldn't matter

severe oak
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yea so idk. weird

low notch
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try curl 172.17.0.1:8123

severe oak
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lets try this again

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?

low notch
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yes maybe

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when you have raspbian running,
do
curl -fsSL https://get.docker.com -o install-docker.sh
and then
sh install-docker.sh
followed by
sudo usermod -aG pi docker
then you have docker up and running

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then try that command you posted to start the container again

severe oak
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i just reboot it

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i removed all the folders, removed all users but root

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killed all procersses

low notch
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start from scratch

severe oak
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yah what else should i run command wise to make sure im at stage 1

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im in my box as root ubuntu 22.04

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kill all homeasistnant core proccess etc

low notch
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why ubuntu?

severe oak
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thats what i have running rn

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i use it for other stuff too

low notch
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well then you did something that screws with docker network I suspect

severe oak
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i dont think so its all fresh

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im starting from scratch

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OK now what

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docker removed etc

low notch
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thats not starting from scratch

severe oak
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sudo usermod -aG pi docker

# 
To run Docker as a non-privileged user, consider setting up the
Docker daemon in rootless mode for your user:

    dockerd-rootless-setuptool.sh install

Visit https://docs.docker.com/go/rootless/ to learn about rootless mode.


To run the Docker daemon as a fully privileged service, but granting non-root
users access, refer to https://docs.docker.com/go/daemon-access/

WARNING: Access to the remote API on a privileged Docker daemon is equivalent
         to root access on the host. Refer to the 'Docker daemon attack surface'
         documentation for details: https://docs.docker.com/go/attack-surface/
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when i ran ur docker commands as root

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it never made a user called docker, should i ?

low notch
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my command is for raspbian, where you have a pi user

severe oak
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ha i dont have that

low notch
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it adds that piuser to docker

severe oak
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yeah i dont even have a user claled docker

low notch
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so you don't need to run as root

severe oak
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i just have root user and ubuntu 22

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so lemme backtrack now

low notch
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start from scratch, with raspbian I suggest

severe oak
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idk what that is

low notch
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raspberry pi os

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based on debian

severe oak
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damn so i cant use ubuntu 22.04 ? ok

low notch
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you can, apparently you have something in that ubuntu install which prevents you from reaching what you setup in docker though

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so thats up to you to discover

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afaik ubuntu comes with ufwyou can try disabling that firewall

severe oak
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i did

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i got it working! nice! Now i wanna tyr and hook up my unifi doorbell to my sonos sytem

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and hue and stuff like that

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I feel liberated ! finally lol

rancid vortex
raven forge
rancid vortex
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thanks!

latent thistle
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how to check whether how mcuh progress is made on backup restore?

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I have started full restore on a rpi4 for last one hour but see no progress

raven forge
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The only way to check remains to tail the log from what I can tell.

latent thistle
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which logs

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cli is on ha >

raven forge
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Enter login there, then run docker logs -tf hassio_supervisor to tail the log

latent thistle
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connected via hdmi cable to rpi4

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don't have a working usb keyboard so can't do that at this time

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just like onboarding there should be a log for backup restoration too

raven forge
latent thistle
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or any PR ?

raven forge
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No idea. Not me

latent thistle
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@rain oasis any PR for progress bar/ visual indication for backup restore?

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my tailscale network is up i.e Homeassistant node

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my adsb radar addon is feeding data

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but I can't ping my HA server strange

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what is the supervisor port

quasi crescent
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Hi all, due to HA not wanting to run anymore (probably due to unexpected power outages), I had to reinstall HA completely. I am running a i5 machine with 16Gb memory with Debian stable. I installed the homeassistant supervisor as I did last time (years ago), but this time I noticed that the add-on menu option under settings was missing. Seeing as I did most of my editting in visual studio, it's kind of a bummer that it disappeared. How can I get it back? I tried to look up the addons docker instance but I cannot find one....

tender wren
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Another Supervised victim

quasi crescent
quasi crescent
latent thistle
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4357 it is

next narwhal
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A couple of automations in the automations list now got a red icon: automation not available. Since 2023.11 i think this afternoon

humble mirage
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Check the logs

next narwhal
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when i try to save the automation i get errors regarding missing devices, so i think its solvable

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like these: Message malformed: Unknown device '626a59c5401566d9df44e131ee751b1b'

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so maybe some fell off and i didnt know, but this update makes it visible?

humble mirage
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2023.10 seems to have started making those actual problems, rather than things in the log

next narwhal
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red icon is way more visible so i dont mind

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what i rrrrrrly like is more verbose zigbee error logging

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but thats a different story

empty bloom
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You can set any integration to log more than others

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been able to do that since day 1

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of HA

next narwhal
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also when tracing an automation? like which exact device errors out?

humble mirage
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Well, the trace has that already, doesn't it?

empty bloom
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yeah, I'm confused

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just look at the trace to see where it stopped

next narwhal
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i get stuff like: error at step5, device doesnt respond. well. which.... like setting a scene with 10 lights...

empty bloom
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you're assuming that HA checks to see if the device responded

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it does not

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it's a fire and forget

next narwhal
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ah ok. didnt know that

empty bloom
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if you checked to see if devices responded, automations would be slow AF

next narwhal
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so its an UDP-ish protocol instead of TCP

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thanks for the help. Im off fixing the red automations

trail shell
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Hey guys, I recently restored a HA backup to my RPi and when I did a full restore (versus partial), I cannot update HA Core from 10.2 to 10.5, and more recently, from 10.2 to 11.0.

trail shell
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I've tried "ha core rebuild", "ha core update", etc from the web terminal, etc but nothing I do seems to work

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I did a fresh install of 10.5, a partial restore of everything besides for 10.2 core, but then I saw that I lost all my yaml files, www folder, lovelace templates, etc.

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So is there anyway to restore a complete backup without having HA core forever stuck on 10.2?

tidal tartan
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@trail shell I am quite litterally on the same issue here, restoring the core will just give infinite reconnecting...

stable swallow
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having problems with my old HA so I decide to create a new sd card is there an easy way to migrate devices, automations and node red flows?

trail shell
tidal tartan
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No mine got stuck on 10.4

trail shell
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Is there a method to get a full backup of all the user data and manually "restoring" that to a fresh install without overwriting 2023.10.11?

tidal tartan
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Have you tried leaving it for a long time before giving up and restarting your device?

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Mine did get restored now, after a long wait, maybe 30+ minutes

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Lots of things not working yet though, but oh well... more time to spend on the hobby I guess 😛

trail shell
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No, it's been like this for over a week already

tidal tartan
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Are you trying to install it on the same SD card or a different one?

trail shell
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same card, fresh install

tidal tartan
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It could be sd card corruption right?

tidal tartan
trail shell
wicked wing
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IM trying to pull the docker container but it keeps failing on a single github download

hollow turtle
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Can I install haos on digital ocean and it gets stuck on booting from hard drive any ideas why?

empty bloom
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theere could be 100s of reasons that doesn't work. But the most prominent reason is: HA wasn't designed for that platform.

maiden atlas
#

Hi experts, I would like your recommendation on my setup for HA.
I want to setup HA on an old laptop, because I would also like to use it as a NAS or nextcloud server. With that in mind, what would be the best setup? A Windows machine, with proxmox with HAOS and nexcloud on a docker?

humble mirage
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Proxmox

hollow turtle
humble mirage
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Seems very strange to run a local automation platform in the cloud

empty bloom
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I suggest you go w/ docker if you're planning on going the cloud route

hollow turtle
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Yep thats what I had to do

torpid oracle
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Hi, after setup my Add-on Store section should list actual add-ons, right?

I got HA Yellow shipped through Crowd Supply, already tried "Check for updates" and tried manually adding the main add-on repo but it says it's already added.

tender wren
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Do you mean the additional community add-ons aside the official ones in the add-on store?

manic quail
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Hey one question i have an old pc with an i5 4670K, is it possible to install Home Assistant Operating System onto it as simple as on an raspberry?
I dont want to run a docker or a VM something, just the simplest method like on a raspberry?

raven forge
manic quail
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What is the advantage of virtualization?

raven forge
manic quail
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Nah i just want it as easy as possible because im not into Linux, just want a HAOS that i can simply Update and control my SmartHome 😅

raven forge
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Yeah then it's probably best to stick to your original idea

vague birch
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Appears to be hung up after: [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete

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Whelp, I'll go and eat my hat.

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It is now welcoming me. :D <3

grave monolith
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If I have HA on Pi. how can I access the Config yaml file? I have tried file editor or Samba and neither will access it..for some reason.

humble mirage
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With HAOS those are two of the standard ways

grave monolith
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thats what I was thinking too. but I try to start them and they wont even start. which might be another issue at play.

humble mirage
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Well, you could have opened with that detail

stable swallow
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Did a new installation of HA and did the restore from backup but all my devices say unavaialable

tender wren
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Are those devices related to add-ons like Mosquitto?

stable swallow
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switches and lights

tender wren
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Integrated via MQTT?

stable swallow
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probably do I need to restart my rpi

tender wren
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If you haven't rebooted the Pi after the restore - yes

stable swallow
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I haven't will do thanks

stable swallow
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OK better, question in my UI some devices have sliders to turn on and off while others have lightning bolts, why is that?

humble mirage
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Because HA knows the state of some (sliders) and not of others (bolts)

stable swallow
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why would that be they are all sonoff devices?

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So thats why as soon as I click on the they get the slider back butthen eventually they go back to bolts

humble mirage
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Sounds like a problem with the integration/those devices

stable swallow
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Got something else going on too, I did a new install and did restore from a backup and now getting Out of Memory errors Killed process #### ( node-red)

humble mirage
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Reboot

stable swallow
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is there a better way to reboot than unplugging RPI

humble mirage
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There's a reboot menu option

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Press c on any dashboard to search

stable swallow
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c isn't doing anything?

humble mirage
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Works for me

stable swallow
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oh jus takes a while

stable swallow
#

is there a way to monitor memory usage, keep getting out of memory error but not sure what is causing it

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OK found it under settings->system->hardware RPI is running .8gb but not sure why?

raven forge
sonic current
#

hey guys i'm trying to install HAOS from an usb drive on a Dell Wyse 5070 with Intel Celeron J4105, 8GB Ram, 64GB SSD but am stuck booting the installation from the usb disk with "A start job is running for HAOS swap (time counting)". any idea?

raven forge
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Install from an USB drive? HAOS has no installer. That stick IS your installation

sonic current
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oh gotya, my bad, somehow thought that was an installer but your right its just the image flashed to the usb drive and thats nonsense in my case, will boot an ubuntu or something and flash the internal ssd from there, thx 😄

torpid oracle
tender wren
torpid oracle
snow canopy
#

Hi y'all!

I want to install HA on Kubernetes with an Nginx ingress controller as a reverse proxy. The issue I am running into is that the internal kubernetes cluster ip that acts as a prxoy isn't static and the configuration.yml requires a static proxy ip. Any way I can fix this issue? I cloud add the ability to use a regex for the proxy url but I don't know if that would be accepted in the github project

fair spindle
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You can pass networks, so e.g. 172.30.33.0/24

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(example from the docs)

wary plank
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I'm having alot of issues restoring a backup. I'm runnig HAOS in proxmox and started having issues after some recent upgrades where Node red would consume lots of CPU and stop responding/crashing. Decided I'd downgrade, but having issues here aswell.
I've left the backup process running for hours, it never finishes. ha jobs infoseems to get stuck on the vscode addon restore process.

I even configured a new VM using the latest image availabe for HA, tried restoring backup and this too seems to take forever (1 h now)
Is there any way for me to check what the OS is working with? I have cli access

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ha core logs is full of (image to text converted)

I ine 557, in aiohttp ._http_parser . HttpParser . feed_data
iohttp . http_except i ons . BadStatusL i ne: 400, message :
Bad status I ine "Inval id method encountered : Sn\n b' Sn
023—11—04 13 : 27 :53 .548 ERROR (MainThread) [aiohttp . server] Error handl ing request
Traceback (most recent call last) :
Fi le "/usr/local/l ib/python3. iohttpzueb_protocol . PY" ,
line 332, in data receiued
= sel f ._request_parser . feed_data (data )
messages, upgraded, tail = self.request.parser.feed_data(data)```
humble scaffoldBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

raven forge
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image to text converted
Please no. Use a picture as explained above or better, add a serial device to the VM and use xterm so you can copy/paste stuff: <#installation-archived message>

You can also use this to push the logs to dpaste:

As for the other thing the best you can do is probably to tail the supervisor log: <#installation-archived message>

seems to get stuck on the vscode addon restore process
Please share what made you think that.

wary plank
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Thanks @raven forge seems VM needs a restart after adding serial device, will do this later as it's in the process of restoring (I think)

  • (On the new VM that's currently restoring bkp): tailing the supervisor logs I see a reacurring INFO message about frigate addon getting network access
  • (Old VM) reason I'm thinking it the backup somehow get stuck on vscode is that ha jobs info never finishes with this addon (left it for 3 hours) I've seem that ha jobs info cycles through the current job, but never finishes when it gets to vs code. I' thinking maybe retrying restore with vscode deselcted
raven forge
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It would be useful to share exactly what you see.

wary plank
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Every three seconds or so this message is repeated

23—11—04 13:52:10 INFO (NainThread) [supervisor.api.mniddleware.security] /network/interface/default/info access from ccab4aaf_frigate
23-11-04 13:52:13 INFO (NainThread) [supervisor.api.mniddleware.security] /network/interface/default/info access from ccab4aaf_frigate
(also cought this that flew by once)
23—11—04 13:54:14 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.addons.options] Option 'anonymous' does not exist in the schema for mosquittobroker (core_mosquitto)
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this is on the new VM - trying to access the server in the browser, I'm greeted with the onboarding page (after a good hour has passed). The new VM shows no jobs running (but it has shown jobs during this hour)

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ha addons displays my restored addons, but HA never rebooted and as mentioned, I still get greeted by the onboarding page. Should I simply reboot manually?

raven forge
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Yes, try a reboot. Actually, shutdown, add the serial device, then cold boot. Addons need intervention after a restore but I'm not hopeful that onboarding will change to a login screen.

wary plank
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You are correct, still at onboarding.
I've added the serial device so I can now copy/paste, thnx!

I wen't through the supervisor logs and I can see references to the addons I restored, however, now I also see this entry in the logs:

2023-11-04T13:24:17.900504000Z 23-11-04 14:24:17 ERROR (MainThread) [asyncio] Task exception was never retrieved
2023-11-04T13:24:17.900836000Z future: <Task finished name='Task-2096' coro=<Addon.watchdog_container() done, defined at /usr/src/supervisor/supervisor/addons/addon.py:1069> exception=AddonsJobError('Rate limit exceeded, more than 10 calls in 0:30:00')>
2023-11-04T13:24:17.901095000Z Traceback (most recent call last):
2023-11-04T13:24:17.901300000Z   File "/usr/src/supervisor/supervisor/addons/addon.py", line 1083, in watchdog_container
2023-11-04T13:24:17.901501000Z     await self._restart_after_problem(event.state)
2023-11-04T13:24:17.901782000Z   File "/usr/src/supervisor/supervisor/jobs/decorator.py", line 276, in wrapper
2023-11-04T13:24:17.901976000Z     raise on_condition(
2023-11-04T13:24:17.902236000Z supervisor.exceptions.AddonsJobError: Rate limit exceeded, more than 10 calls in 0:30:00
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I'm a bit split on how to approach this and try and get back to normal.
I have a mostly working VM (old one) where my main issues is with Node red using lots of CPU and no loading ingress or loading and acting normal and then crashing after some time, or should I try and move everything to my newly configured.. I though that maybe that would work better, but seems something is broken with my backup file maybe

wary plank
#

ok, I think I'm sticking to my original installation

I started node red in safe_mode and I can now access my flows again. This makes me believe there is something in a flow somewhere that's causing the issues I'm having.

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Anyone know a way to troubleshoot without having to enable one flow at a time?

raven forge
#

The full supervisor log might provide some context. Otherwise I have no idea at the moment

urban folio
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That's a full backup I created like an hour ago.

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okay, it works in Chrome, but not Fx.

raven forge
urban folio
#

1.5 years later and this has no fix...

#

HAssi needs to add an "Optimized for Google Chrome" animated GIF.

desert pebble
#

Hiihii

#

Is it possible to install Home Assistant in Raid1 on bare metal?

raven forge
desert pebble
#

HAOS indeed

raven forge
#

Assuming you use HW raid that should work. I don't think HAOS supports software raid. There's no installer either.
I suggest virtualizing it.

urban folio
#

Oh man, the restore is taking forever.

urban folio
#

It's over an hour now.

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Hm, it's actually restored and working. Just the "restore" view doesn't notice.

#

Hm, not everything is working

raven forge
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You usually have to reboot after a restore. Not sure why it's not mentioned anywhere

urban folio
#

OK, let's try that.

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deconz is not starting :-I

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mqtt is fine, but deconz is broken.

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I completely reboot with a power-off. Now deconz runs -- but some zigbee devices are not working (but some are...)

#

I guess the deconz backup didn't really work.

#

Looking into the deconz app I see most of the devices are disconnected :-I

#

Hm, weird... this looks more like signal issue.

urban folio
#

60 m^2 apartment and we have coverage problems 😦

raven forge
#

Zigbee range is relatvely tiny

urban folio
#

I guess concrete walls are not helping either.

raven forge
#

You need a few routers and there might also be interference from USB 3, WiFi and so on but that's more #zigbee-archived territory

urban folio
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We have tons of routers in the network.

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But yes, the spectrum is probably rather full.

raven forge
urban folio
urban folio
#

Does HAOS support connecting over WiFi? That would make repositioning the RPi easier.

raven forge
crude inlet
#

@urban folio you can go to settings > system > network for connecting to wifi. You would have a different ip address using that

urban folio
#

Well, given how full the ISM spectrum is here, I'll stay with wired network.

lilac sinew
#

I'm trying to setup/ship a configured raspberry pi with some zwave motion sensors and a few addons to a friend of mine. Is there any way I can pre-configure HAOS or anything I can do to reset the state of it (minus those config changes) before mailing it out? like removing the user, unsetting location, etc.?

desert pebble
#

Hii

#

I can't figure out how to configure a mirror drive 😦

tender wren
#

What are you talking about?

desert pebble
#

I asked earlier today if it is possible to configure a raid1 setup for Home Assistant OS

#

I don't like to run it virtualized, but there is no other option, I think

tender wren
#

For RAID you would have to consult the manual of your mainboard (if it supports RAID) or of your RAID controller.

raven forge
desert pebble
#

My motherboard does not support raid and there is no place for a raid controller in my case

raven forge
#

You're just making the mainboard the single point of failure and possibly can't even exchange it for another one

desert pebble
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So I have to virtualize it 🙂

raven forge
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Why are you against it? It's awesome

desert pebble
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Had some trouble with passthrough before

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I used Truenas scale on my main server and ran HaOS in a VM

raven forge
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I recommend a "real" hypervisor platform

desert pebble
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Like?

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Proxmox?

raven forge
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Something that specializes on that. I use proxmox VE but there's others as well

hasty light
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Hey guys!
[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.11.1: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.43/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2023.11.1/json: Internal Server Error ("readlink /mnt/data/docker/overlay2: invalid argument")
How to slove my problems?

humble scaffoldBOT
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Hass.io was the old name for the appliance like install option, that uses Docker. It was renamed in January 2020 and is now called Home Assistant OS.

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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

raven forge
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Lovely when people delete their posts

urban folio
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It seems like Restore doesn't restore config of the Network Storage?

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Anyway, my yesterdays issue with lot of stuff not connecting to ConBee coordinator seem to be fixed by putting the ConBee dongle on a short extension cord.

next wadi
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Hello guys!
I have a Home assistant in Vbox. It have been running for 1.5 years w/o problems. Yesterday I figured out, the storage what the *.vdi file takes is 50 GB (!). I could not get information what takes up so much space... I connected through SSH and installed the Midnight Commander (mc) to check all dirs in root, but nothing.
Do you have any idea what I missed? Thank you in advance.

Oh, and I runned this: vboxmanage modifyhd haos_ova-9.5.vdi --compact but it did not help.

lapis maple
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Hi! I've done a fresh install of HAOS on x86-64. I got the "this might take 20 minutes" message in the browser view. Now I'm getting connection refused. In core info I'm seeing issues with if version_obj < AwesomeVersion("0.50") with AwesomeVersionCompareException: Cana't compre <unknown > and <SimpleVer 0.50>

fringe badger
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Is it correct place to ask for help with Raspberry Pi 3B + Home Assistant + SSD?
I installed HA on an SSD and tried to run it with RPI3 but the U-Boot does not seem to find SSD.

fringe badger
humble mirage
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What adapter are you using? Not all work

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You may also need a powered USB hub since the USB ports may not provide enough power

fringe badger
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I'm using official 5V 2.5A PSU. The USB-SSD adapter is Ugreen one.

humble mirage
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That PSU is good enough for the Pi and a little bit of power for the USB ports

fringe badger
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However, I am able to run Raspberry OS with the same hardware

humble mirage
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I've seen lots of reports of power problems on HAOS with hardware that wasn't complaining before

merry wigeon
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I'm running HA Core on a Windows Hyper-V setup. I am considering getting a Yellow or Green device .. is there an easy way to copy everything over?

humble mirage
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Take a backup, download it, restore on the new install

merry wigeon
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Okay, so it works pretty smoothly then, that's good. I was worried about different platform not playing nicely or something. Thanks!

humble mirage
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The backup is just your config, different platforms don't matter

merry wigeon
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Perfect

gloomy crown
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Why are all 10.* releases really slow compared to earlier releases? Reboot takes like 10 minutes when before it was like 20 seconds

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Trying to update to 2023.11.1 and it takes forever to install and boot after it

humble mirage
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No change in startup or shutdown here for 2023.10.x

gloomy crown
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2023.10.4 was last that worked fine

humble mirage
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2023.10.5 here, no issues - what's your install method, and what hardware?

gloomy crown
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HA OS on Proxmox

humble mirage
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Any change to the system load?

gloomy crown
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No

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Nothing else has changed exept HA releases/versions

manic bane
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Around that time did you add any integrations (including custom ones) or add-ons?

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And are all of your hacs custom integrations up to date as well (if you have any)

gloomy crown
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No. When rolling back to last working snapshot everything works again, but then applying all the updates there is it gets slow

manic bane
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Anything in the logs?

gloomy crown
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No. Mostly nacks about the MQTT names "MQTT entity name starts with the device name in your config"

stone swan
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Same issue here, long load times after the update/restart.
Still waiting now, its been 10+ minutes, im giving it 10 more.. if it doesnt start i probs have to investigate

raven forge
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Got a screen you can plug in and see what it says?

stone swan
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ah smart, ill give that a go, i shouldnt be turning it off right? incase its still updating

raven forge
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Probably not.

stone swan
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No signal :'(

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might aswell give it a powercycle i suppose

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After powercycle, i got signal and loads of errors :( either SD corruption or it died .. which would be sad as i probally dont have a backup

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error -110 whilst initialising SD card.
invalid bus width

error -22 whilst initialising SD card.
invalid bus width
raven forge
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I'm not sure what's worse. Not having a backup or not knowing whether you have one.
I have no recent experience with booting off of SD cards or that error. After briefly googling for it I'm not convinced whether it's dead or not.

stone swan
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Same here, did some google troubleshooting but nothing.
I might have a backup on the SD. will have to remove the SD card and put it in the pc and check whatsup

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when booting up, it also tells me there's no network, but I am not familair with reading boot information. took a couple of screenshots but not allowed to post.

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

stone swan
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aaah gotcha

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ignore the mess in the background >.<

raven forge
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I find a bit more for "error -110 whilst initialising SD card" but only repeated mentions of checking pins and such

stone swan
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It is strange, this all happend after i did the latest core update.

raven forge
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It seems like it can read at least part of the data. I'd plug this into another machine and check the file system or attempt to grab the backups off of it.

stone swan
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that would be my next step, would you reccomend going to SSD instead of an SD card?

raven forge
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Definitely. A powered USB hub is also recommended so it gets enough power.

stone swan
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You got any recommendations? currently looking at this SATA > USB cable.

off topic, the SD card is EXTREMELY slow, like it makes the explorer not responsive

raven forge
stone swan
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I used to host my home assistant on proxmox actually, might have to bring it back

raven forge
stone swan
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so it might be on the brink of dying

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trying to backup the sdcard now, tells me 1 hour remaining for 29mb :O

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oh it finished nice.

raven forge
stone swan
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Im not sure yet if i got my files, all the files that i have from the SD card do not look familair at all.

raven forge
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Yeah then hold off on that for now.

stone swan
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thanks for the links above btw.

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using the linux reader now, trying to find the "real" files :D

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backup folder also has alot of .tar files, no dates attached sadly.

raven forge
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I don't have a pi but in my VM it looks something like this (reduced)

# lsblk -po+LABEL,FSTYPE
NAME        MAJ:MIN RM  SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS                            LABEL          FSTYPE
/dev/sda      8:0    0   32G  0 disk
|-/dev/sda1   8:1    0   32M  0 part /mnt/boot                              hassos-boot    vfat
|-/dev/sda2   8:2    0   24M  0 part                                                       squashfs
|-/dev/sda3   8:3    0  256M  0 part /                                                     squashfs
|-/dev/sda4   8:4    0   24M  0 part                                                       squashfs
|-/dev/sda5   8:5    0  256M  0 part                                                       squashfs
|-/dev/sda6   8:6    0    8M  0 part
|-/dev/sda7   8:7    0   96M  0 part /var/lib/NetworkManager                hassos-overlay ext4
`-/dev/sda8   8:8    0 31.3G  0 part /var/lib/docker                        hassos-data    ext4

As you can see the partition with the hassos-data label is the biggest and it's ext4. That's what you're looking for.

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The homeassistant container's /config directory is mounted to /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant.

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The backup files usually have meta data in the form of access, create and modify time though. On windows you can run dir in the directory where you put the files to see some of it.

stone swan
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I see, gonna go trough that while im making a backup of the supervisor folder before the SD actually dies.

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checking files now to see.

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ah yes i see the hassos-data

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oh wait damn, they have dates on "laste modified"

raven forge
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That's the meta data I was talking about.

stone swan
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you are a legend

raven forge
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If you use View > Details in explorer you can right click the top column you can add the others as well

stone swan
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nice one!, so i have found the most recent one which would probally be corrupted, and the other very recent one which was 2 days ago.

raven forge
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You could see if you can extract it with 7-Zip or whatever you are familiar with without it complaining.

stone swan
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yes, everything is in there.

raven forge
round bison
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Hi, anyone with experience of aeon labs z-wave 5+ together with Conbee II for zigbee? HA runs fine with z-wave only but crash as soon as I plug in and start deCONZ addon. Zigbee stick is on a 2m extension. Zwave, zigbee and Bluetooth integrations all crash when zigbee usb stick is attached. Tried to search forum but no solution found so far. Any ideas?

tender wren
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Are you using those on a passive USB hub?