hardware-archived

[spare cradle]

Does anybody have a recommendation for a remote control that is compatible with Home Assistant? I am talking about some battery-powered portable device that interfaces with WiFi/Zigbee/etc that can be added as a device/entity/etc in HA so that I can trigger automations by pushing buttons on it. I have some old insteon mini remotes that work, but those are of course hard to obtain and I don't want to invest in any more Insteon stuff. I did find one zigbee remote on amazon that looks like it should work, but I'm not sure if there are options that people are using.

[gloomy spoke]

depends on what you mean by "thin client", but my SFF i5 x86 box that was released in ~2011 is much better than any Pi could hope to be

[winged knoll]

Single or multi-button?

[spare cradle]

Multi-button. Maybe half a dozen? I'd rather not have a pile of them.

[winged knoll]

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/#s=remote

[spare cradle]

Oh, nice. Thanks

(Google searches for "remote" are so annoying since you get things like remote access, harmony remotes, and so on...)

[spare cradle]

Oh, I assume any of that stuff would work with HA and the SkyConnect?

[winged knoll]

Probably

It'll work with Zigbee2MQTT

It probably will work with ZHA

#zigbee-archived could provide feedback if you ask about specific devices

[spare cradle]

I assume you can't use the SkyConnect with zigbee2mqtt? Honestly, I got the SkyConnect before doing any research into how HA uses Zigbee. It didn't occur to me that there would be multiple implementations, and that the device recommended by the official website seems to use a different implementation than everybody that seems to be using homeassitant. 🙂

Still, this is a useful starting point.

[uncut badger]

I'm using some 4 button lora tap ones which I picked up on aliexpress.

[winged knoll]

You can, it's just not as well supported

[uncut badger]

https://smarthomescene.com/reviews/loratap-zigbee-4-button-remote-ss6400zb-review/

[royal arch]

Greetings,
Any reference to how to set up skyconnect with Z2mqtt , please?
Also, Do I need to install the silicon multilabs add on before using it ?
Thanks in advance, and apologies if this is not the right thread

[hexed galleon]

I want to convert my wired android auto into wireless

What device can I Use

[real kiln]

Is this a good option :
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B0BRSS5ZXT

[zealous dune]

In what context?

[zealous dune]

https://blakadder.com/android-auto-wireless-adapter/

[real kiln]

I want to make a home server with home assistant

[sudden galleon]

Im using Lenovo Thinkcentre M92p tiny, which got i5-3470T, 4GB ram and 256gb SSD. I'm running 2 cameras in Frigate with Coral and it avg 2.2gb ram usage (peaks at 2.4gb), cpu steady at 45%, ~25W usage. Before I got coral was cpu 85-95% and 35W. Also got Z2M with 6 devices.

[hexed galleon]

thank you! have you tried it before? I have seen many alternatives but I see a lot of complaints from all products

[zealous dune]

That link is just the case

[gloomy spoke]

I have almost exactly the same box (16GB RAM/upgraded SSD) and it handles all my server needs, including HA & Frigate with Coral. 45% constant load seems kinda high, though.

[uncut badger]

almost always worth sticking in more ram. 🙂

[gloomy spoke]

16GB is pretty much my minimum for any machine

In any case, those machines are awesome for the price

Cheap and plentiful on the refurb market

[uncut badger]

so many little machines out there which are pretty similar spec and size wise 🙂

[zealous dune]

Not all markets

[uncut badger]

true. a bias I need to remember.

[sudden galleon]

3% CPU is deepstack, 40% is frigate... Im running both cameras at 1440x810 5fps

[real kiln]

yes I know case + sata drive port

[atomic marsh]

nanoleaf essentials 3-pack bulbs are 50% off in hong kong

$8.27 usd per bulb with free shipping

probably getting a bunch

[tulip scroll]

she was not convinced haha

[upper yoke]

is there anything one could buy to convert a chain-pull ceiling fan to a smart one? or like a pull attachment of some kind?

[jagged crypt]

vs splicing something into it's power source and leaving it on?

[devout parrot]

Sonoff ifan04

[hexed galleon]

Purchased , will let you know how it goes

[hexed galleon]

Just saw you are the author ! Haha

I used your link , but I switched pages then

I don't know if ended counting to you

@zealous dune

[boreal tendon]

Are there devices that are all hardwired together instead of using wireless stuff for thread/matter ? or its all only about wireless protocols?

[zealous dune]

Thread is a low-power and low-latency wireless mesh networking protocol

[winged knoll]

Yeah, by definition Thread is wireless

Matter could use wired networking I suspect, but #matter-archived would know

[zealous dune]

Matter can technically be wired since its IP

but its still primarily designed and built for wireless

[boreal tendon]

So if I wanted no wireless devices in my home automation system are there nice cheap systems to support this like how would you do stuff like all the lights and plugs in your house?

[zealous dune]

if you have wires you don't need protocols

at worst its a central controller connected to HA server via Ethernet

[boreal tendon]

Ok so what hardware would I use to connect these devices to HA

[zealous dune]

a board with tons of relays and an MCU of your choice

[boreal tendon]

Any recommendations to get me started?

[zealous dune]

https://www.kincony.com/raspberry-pi-distribution-panel-home-assistant-node-red.html

[boreal tendon]

Thank you, that may be a little difficult to retrofit separating lights and sockets from each other.

[zealous dune]

you don't retrofit wired control systems

you do it from scratch

otherwise all the wifi retrofit tuya crap wouldn't sell at all

[boreal tendon]

I was hoping to find something that was like a bulb with two screw terminals in the side where you can attach microcontroller leads or simple single plugs with the same.

Then I could run low voltage wires to all the devices to switch them.

[zealous dune]

but if you can run low voltage wires you can use the central controller

[boreal tendon]

more costly to rerun all the high voltage wire I would just put an ethernet micro in each room to switch the low voltage wires to each device.

[zealous dune]

an ethernet micro? and how are you getting the ethernet wires to the micro?

[boreal tendon]

Already have ethernet outlets in every room

[zealous dune]

so your plan is to have a switch with ethernet wires going to every control point?

[boreal tendon]

Basically like this

All these would go back to a PoE ethernet esp32 running ESPHome in each room.

[rich venture]

no that doesent exist

[zealous dune]

and it shouldn't 😄

[rich venture]

yup

[boreal tendon]

Ok thank you

[zealous dune]

and if you're doing it wired you have no need for plugs

[winged knoll]

If you want wired, look at KNX or similar

And be prepared to pay large sums

[zealous dune]

one of the request adjective was cheaper

[winged knoll]

🤣

Cheaper ... and wired

[zealous dune]

so i just skipped KNX

[winged knoll]

That's an oxymoron

[zealous dune]

but no, there are rpi and esp32 central control boards

but still more expensive than tuya or zigbee

[rich venture]

16channel relay board goes brrr

[zealous dune]

or 128 IO board 😄

[rich venture]

just slap a siemens simatic and bunch of io modules

[boreal tendon]

What do those look like?

I guess tasmota supports knx

[delicate karma]

I'm looking for a temp sensor that dosen't run on batteries (seems like all of them do that now), is mountable in a wallbox and has Z-wave or Zigbee communication.
Does anyone have any tips? or do i need to make one my self.

[broken flower]

For wired light control that can do more than on-off you could look at DALI (or maybe DMX, but I have no experience with that).

[zealous dune]

Only DIY

[delicate karma]

do you know if anyone has made some and posted it on this server? (for inspiration)

[zealous dune]

If they did there's a search function

[delicate karma]

ahh of course forgot about that 🤦🏻‍♂️

[boreal tendon]

Just use ESPHome with a $2 i2c temp module attached to it

[boreal tendon]

Are you saying just dmx you have no exp and use dali or both no exp?

[broken flower]

DALI I have installed myself.

I use Osram OTi drivers for my leds. They were <20€ each - ~15W CC

[boreal tendon]

Do you have pictures of the setup?

[broken flower]

But there is quite a variety available. Eg. TCI Jolly, EldoLed, Lunatone, Meanwell, ... even Lamps directly made for DALI (quite expensive though)

These are just led Drivers hidden in my ceiling. I control these via a Knx-Dali gateway since my main installation is Knx. There are Dali-native switches too, but I don't have those.

I removed the standard drivers of my https://www.slv.com/de_de/occuldas-13-117351-2756 for those. But this works with pretty much any lamp.

[gusty sequoia]

Aeotec multisensors can run off USB power, at least the multisensor 6 can. Z-Wave, includes temp alongside other stuff, unsure if it meets your mountability constraint.

[delicate karma]

that looked pretty nice, but not a cheap one

[gusty sequoia]

yeah, z-wave is rarely cheap, heh. the ESPHome suggestion may be the best for your case, but it's wifi, not zwave or zigbee

[delicate karma]

i need 10 to control my heating system in my house.

so, yeah i might need to diy it. but i need to 3d print a holder or something so i can mount then and still look pretty

[nimble ginkgo]

Has anyone with SwitchBot curtain rod openers found that the motorized roller spins on the rod without enough grip?

I’m wondering if there are tactics to make the rod more friction full.

[young kayak]

Anyone familiar with Leviton switches? Any idea why OnOff would say read only when trying to set it? I can view/set other stuff

[boreal tendon]

https://www.crowdsupply.com/slaesh-gmbh/smahoo

[old zinc]

@delicate karma https://shop.homeseer.com/products/z-wave-indicator-light-sensor. Not designed for this use case but cheap and has temperature

[crude jasper]

New here and to HA so apologies if this is the wrong place. Or just a stupid question. I bought a zigbee outlet that is not being found on HA (w skyconnect). It is being found by my old smartthings that I'm trying to transition away from. I have found other zigbee devices (bulbs, lock, etc.) without a problem on HA so I know my adapter works. Q: are there brands that HA doesn't work with or should any zigbee item connect and I'm missing something obvious?

[boreal tendon]

Did you put it in pairing mode?

[zealous dune]

Yes, any device that doesn't follow Zigbee specification will not work out of the box with ZHA, as for brands that would usually be Tuya and it's derivatives

[iron patrol]

Kasa 3 way switch, can just one switch be used on a 3way circuit or can just one kasa switch and a common 3 way switch be used together?

[tacit wyvern]

Ok, so i got this device controlled over IR and I need a way to know if it’s on or off. I have no way of accessing the wiring of any kind, all I have is a red led that turns off when device is on (and no, I can’t access the led wires either). Is there any sensor I can put over that led that would sense the light and act as a switch? Was thinking of using an aqara door sensor and replace the reed switch with some photo sensitive sensor to act as a switch. Please , I need ideas.

[plain wharf]

Something like this perhaps? https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Aqara_GZCGQ11LM.html

[rich venture]

i tink that detects ambient light levels in lux

wouldnt work for a led

i would use esphome and https://www.aliexpress.com/i/1005001659400620.html

[plain wharf]

oh. Can test that with mine. But you're probably right then

[golden thorn]

Sorry, this item's currently unavailable in your location.
😦

[plain wharf]

Well... In a pitch black room, it actually detects 6 lx when led is on, reports 1 lx othewise, so not a huge diff

it is a led from a NOUS smart plug, so not very bright

and checking again I take that back. led on and detects 2 lx, so agreed, it does not work

[crude jasper]

Yes. I was successfully able to connect it to both an echo speaker (which I don't use as a hub but to confirm that the outlet 'worked') as well as my old ST. And I have successfully connected other zigbee devices to my HA.

[light void]

Does anyone know of a portable led lamp (attachable to a wall) that can be controlled by Zigbee/wifi/bluetooth?

[zealous dune]

https://phoscon.de/en/hive

and a few Hue ones

[solemn quest]

Hello guys. I need sonoff dongle p windows driver. 2652p chip.

[winged knoll]

Google found https://www.reddit.com/r/sonoff/comments/s034tc/sonoff_zigbee_30_usb_dongle_plus_and_windows/

[severe hearth]

anyone have the ability to help with a skyconnect

?

[zealous dune]

thats a weird question

[severe hearth]

why

?

if i'm in the wrong area i can certainly head somewhere else, their page directly references this discord, but no particular channel that i noticed

btw, just took a quick look at your blog...seems nice

[brittle girder]

I'm looking to get a Aqara Roller Shade Driver E1, but i can only find it from resellers on ebay or some questionable aliexpress listings, is this unusual? is there some secret more-trustworthy place i could find one?

[cold moon]

Jump to #zigbee-archived and provide as much detail as possible and logs pasted to dpaste.org or similar will also help

[cold moon]

No alie is fine but some ‘stores’ on there are better than others

Newer aqara stuff is alie only not amazon from what I’ve seen although a couple of their new products are on Amazon like the pet feeder and motion sensors

[tawny viper]

I've wasted more money trying to save money on Ali. Amazon returns are too easy. But if I get something I know 100% I'll keep Ali is good. I got 5 Aqara buttons for less then the price of 2 on Amazon

Because I already had theit buttons and liked them.

But I've never got scammed. I've got crappy products I didn't want

Or EU version of switches, (they didn't say if they were EU or us) so only my fault

[cold moon]

There’s nothing wrong with buying off alie. There is a lot wrong about throwing your money at a random seller though

[tawny viper]

And I'll add random products. Lol

[cold moon]

Are you turning off notifications on your replies to me? I can’t reply accordingly without them

[little ibex]

Why do some sensors(all identical btw) change state and others change a different key in the json? What was ADT doing when they set them up?

[devout parrot]

Thanks for the recommendation on that light strip controller @cold moon , just set up the LS-5P and this thing is legit.

[cold moon]

Which one

Quindor or athom or?

[devout parrot]

Athom

[cold moon]

I’ve never used any of their wled controllers myself just their wled flashed bulbs

Should be fine tho

I diy them with esps

[devout parrot]

Seems to be. I checked reviews and, as usual, most of the negative reviews were from people who did dumb stuff like connect it to a dimmer and then get all surprised when it fried the device when they started cranking the brightness up and down from the power supply instead of the app.

[cold moon]

Yea

[devout parrot]

I might get on this level when I get round to the under cabinet lighting my wife periodically mentions wanting.

[cobalt prawn]

Hey folks I am running into a high memory usage issue where over span of 3 days I will go from 6% to 91% memory usuage. That’s with 16GB ram using HAOS on bare metal optiplex HW. All add one are off. How can I identify what’s driving the memory usage.

[golden thorn]

Run docker stats via the SSH addon and install glances and potentially InfluxDB and grafana to store and anlyze the data. Not really #hardware-archived related

[uncut badger]

Got mine through amazon uk.

[zealous dune]

Most EU Amazon stores carry it

[uncut badger]

(I say I got. my parents bought for me 😉 I'm apparently hard to buy for, so they tell me to put stuff on my wishlist.)

[weak dust]

If I understand Skyconnect correctly it will act as a hub and remove the need for things like Hue hub etc?

So basically, I could setup my HA on my nuc + Skyconnect and it's all the 'hub' I need?

[rich venture]

yup and skyconnect isnt the only device supported
there is list here https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/

[weak dust]

Thanks! Which one is often recommended to get as a starting point?

[uncut badger]

take a look at the pins in #zigbee-archived

[cobalt prawn]

Thanks

[sweet warren]

Hello there! Hope everyone is having a good day. I'm looking for a doorbell that would do two way audio and send me notifications when the button is pressed. PoE and camera preferably. Also, I'm trying to keep everything local through MQTT and Zigbee2MQTT.

I saw a Reolink one but I can't tell if it'll work fully locally or not

Any recommendations?

Thanks a lot 🙏🏽

[zealous dune]

reolink one

[static nova]

I need to set up home presence detection with ble. Not in need of room detection. Is there any good ble devices that would be able to span about a 75 foot radius that I could use centrally in my home. Or would I need multiple devices spread out to achieve this?

[winged knoll]

I'd expect you need multiple

[cold moon]

esphome bluetooth proxy info from bdraco:

If you are making active connections it’s recommended to deploy the proxies in pairs on opposite sides of the room since when a connection is in progress it cannot receive advertisements.

If the rooms are close enough it won’t matter so much about having two per room since the active connection range is much shorter than the advertisement reception range

You just need a second one in advertisement range while the other one is connecting.  Usually that can be anywhere in a 2500sqft house

Deploy one per every 625sqft with a minimum of 2 and you are good

[static nova]

I just read bluetooth proxies support only 3 active connections. We have a minimum of 6 devices. I don't think it will work in this case

[winged knoll]

Presence detection doesn't need active connections

[sweet nexus]

Anyone have recommendations for a wifi or zigbee garage door opener controller (with a button for my wall either included or separate)? The current button I have just bridges two wires https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/485888906223419392/1131625102774112266/image.png

[frigid turret]

When it comes to light switches, what do you guys do: use the in-wall dimmer switches, or smart bulbs? Both have advantages and disadvantages I guess, doubting what I should go for

[gusty sequoia]

I think the best way to approach the switch vs. bulb question is to think about what you want to do, and what things you're able & willing to mess with. Change colors & whites? You need bulbs. Want something on the wall? You either need switches or you need to add wall remotes and block off the switches so they don't interfere with smart bulb operation. No neutral? Switches might be annoying to find/use. If what you're doing is simple on/off or dimming of white bulbs, you can probably make either version work, but depending what you want you might need either or both.

[hallow tapir]

@cold moon I remember you linking out to a setup for doing wifi controllers with individually controlled LEDs in this channel would you mind reminding me what you liked there?

or maybe it was in the zigbee channel

[quiet pawn]

does anyone know if it's possible to tell a Hue motion sensor to ignore certain areas?

[rare tulip]

Hi. I plan to move to new home. In old home I had rpi4 4gb ram + conbee v1 USB stick+USB attached SSD. All dedicated to home assistant.
Any recommendations for initial setup at my new home?
Should I pick similar rpi4 + some trending ZigBee USB stick (with most supported devices), or try home assistant yellow, or opt in for some other mini PC?
County Lithuania (Europe). Budget 150-250€
Then I will need some 220V light switches and dimmers and some room thermostats. Preferably all ZigBee.
Currently when buying new ZigBee peripherals I was always afraid, that they won't be supported in conbee proprietary deconz. And pairing was quite often a challenge. But user interface is quite user friendly. 🙂

[quiet pawn]

I got a cheap mini pc from the Prime Day sale and a sonoff zigbee stick. First time setting up an HA system and it's working great

[rare tulip]

I saw that those sonoff ZigBee sticks are quite trending now. Is it supported by Zigbee2MQTT and ZHA? Which one did you choose?

[quiet pawn]

I got this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6P22YJC?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[winged knoll]

The P stick is known to have QC issues

The E stick is still experimental in Z2M

There are many other choices

[outer knot]

Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

[rare tulip]

Wow that antenna is huge. Wonder how home assistant yellow integrated ZigBee reception compare to such antenna

[rare tulip]

Too many options 😄

[winged knoll]

Easy answer then:

1. Buy something CC2652 if you want to use Zigbee2MQTT
2. If you want to use ZHA, doesn't matter whether you buy CC2652 or EZSP

The bot message recommends two CC2652 options, and Slaesh is a good third choice

The SkyConnect is the new hotness for EZSP, but there's loads of others

[rare tulip]

I didn't decide where I am heading from deconz z2m or ZHA :-).
Didn't try either. But I would like to have optimal supported devices+reliability option 🙂

[winged knoll]

#zigbee-archived can tell you more, but it's six of one, half a dozen of the other

Neither are a bad choice

[rare tulip]

Thanks. What about host devices? Rpi4, ha yellow or some other mini PC?

[winged knoll]

Not a Pi, never a Pi

[uncut badger]

which really means 'mini pc' 😉 Almost any will do.

may be worth going for a refurb, may be worth going for something low powered. (it'll still beat a pi). can be worth looking at the tdp.

[rare tulip]

My latest pi4 setup did not fail me for the last 2 years. Only got issues before that with pi3 and SD card 🙂
Mini PC means even more options to choose from 🙂

There should be a recommended oresets lists per budget ranges of recommendations.
Maybe there is such list somewhere?

[winged knoll]

No, because options vary across the planet

Plus managing such a list is a full time job for a team of people

[uncut badger]

and things like power consumption matter differently to different people

[rare tulip]

Probably you are right as such list would be outdated quickly

[zealous dune]

get an N100 based mini pc, they currently run around 150eur depending on memory and ssd

[rare tulip]

Something explicit. Thank you! 🙂

[main schooner]

i need something to host HA that is cheap and restarts on power outage + starts on power input automatically. Any suggestions? Used optiplexes?

[devout parrot]

Search "mini" in this channel and you'll find tons

[drifting ember]

well I want a NUC, but the SFF pc's work just as well

any pc made in the last 30 years can start after power loss also

[rich venture]

on preatty much any pc in bios you will have a option to automatically turn on when power is applied

[cold moon]

not really man the bios has to have the option

my used laptop doesnt 😦

[rich venture]

u sure?

[drifting ember]

well laptops are special

[cold moon]

no i looked through the bios and couldnt find it cuz i'm retarded

yes i'm sure

[drifting ember]

mine makes you press F1 to accept the battery is no good

but it loads up

[rich venture]

which laptop?

[cold moon]

hp something

[drifting ember]

🤮

[cold moon]

im not gonna go look at the bottom of it

8th gen intel i7

runs haos and a bunch of addons including frigate

[drifting ember]

man your 'used' laptop is better than my main PC

[cold moon]

it was free

[drifting ember]

cries in poor

[cold moon]

lady spilled water on the keyboard and broke the screen

wasnt worth fixing so she upgraded and gave it to me for parts

[rich venture]

i have same gen laptop and i am preaty sure i saw a option for wake on ac

[cold moon]

not for mine i looked real gud

[drifting ember]

if he says it's not there, I believe him

[cold moon]

it has no keyboard or screen

it's not worth the energy to get a monitor and keyboard connected to triple confirm

it's a very very barebones bios

[rich venture]

yup that is tru

[cold moon]

i'm sure i could roll my own but damn that is too much work

i have it on a ups.. worst case if power is out for long periods i have to go push a button

i thought about soldering to the button with esphome

[rich venture]

you run server off that "laptop"

[drifting ember]

yeah

[cold moon]

server?

[drifting ember]

HA he means

[cold moon]

i have an old dual xeon server for actual server stuff

i run haos on it with smart home related things on it

[rich venture]

lga2011?

[cold moon]

old shit

[drifting ember]

i have an old Xeon that's not much good other than as a space heater and white noise generator

[rich venture]

seesh thats 1366

[cold moon]

buy me a new one

[drifting ember]

13 days uptime 🤮

[rich venture]

i have 1 dual lga2011 workstation
and one dual lga2011 server

[cold moon]

i had a breaker go bad

i have the ups from that network closet on a fuckin extension cable for now

til i can call a sparky and fix the breaker

[drifting ember]

I have a 6th gen i7 main PC, 8th gen i5 laptop, and 4th gen i7 lpatop that I'm typing on

[cold moon]

damn

sucks

[drifting ember]

I have a few PC's stashed under my workbench as well but I'm not even interested in those

[drifting ember]

oh I forgot my HA system is core2quad also

and it's all connected to the internet by pigeons

fun times

[cold moon]

https://www.serverbuilds.net/anniversary i have this as a secondary server

[rich venture]

2x e5 2690, 128gb of ram

[cold moon]

2667 v1 here

cheap shit

[rich venture]

yup they cheap but mobos are pricy

[cold moon]

mine was $140 on that link

[rich venture]

and aliex stuff is not viable for servers since it lacks power state options

[cold moon]

dual 10gbe and built in lsi 2008 card

[drifting ember]

this is depressing

[cold moon]

still a big ass mobo

ssi-eeb

[drifting ember]

drowns his sorrows in a coca-cola

[cold moon]

i need to sell it

more like broka-cola amirite

[rich venture]

this is the rack server i have

[cold moon]

i'm over used server gear

whitebox ryzen is the way to go now

[rich venture]

i love that stuff

[drifting ember]

cries carbonated tears

[frigid kayak]

Man… all my dumb switches are wired with no neutral…

I bought 5 switches on an auction site and was pumped and didn’t look close enough to realize that they all require neutral and I have none lol

[devout parrot]

Not gonna do that yourself?

[hollow lance]

Didn’t there used to be a pinned post in here about Raspberry Pi vs NUC hardware for running HAOS? Or was that in #installation-archived?

[cold moon]

Not touching the breaker box itself for insurance purposes

[heady glacier]

can somone recomend some good led strips that dont cost as mutch as those from Phillips but are compatible Home Assistant?
I need approx. 4 meters of led strip for my bedroom

[zealous dune]

BTF Lighting

[wild atlas]

I do ws2812 strips with an esp running wled for strips. They integrate well into home assistant and aren't bad for price

[heady glacier]

Does it change anything which one I buy?

Or are all of them compatible?

[wild atlas]

They'll all be individually addressable strips, they may have different max brightness though (looking at those eco I bet they are lower power)

Pixels per meter though will be something you want to look at

Basically led density, that'll define how much power you need for your strip and potentially if you need power injection (just another run of power lines from your supply to the other end of the strip)

[sudden galleon]

CPU usage drops to 4-5% if I unplug cameras

[gloomy nacelle]

Any suggestions for outdoor cameras? i was looking at tapo c310 but i guess the power plug should be inside which is not good for me.

[devout parrot]

POE is the way to go for security cameras.

Amcrest and Reolink are both generally affordable as those things go and integrate with HA.

[gloomy nacelle]

i was thinking wifi devices because there are power plugs outside already

[wild atlas]

Amcrest has WiFi cameras, they just need power then to them

Unless you're looking for battery powered wifi cams, I don't know if amcrest has those

[rich venture]

i wouldnt use wifi for security stuff
wifi deauth and other vulnerabilities disqualify it

many wifi cameras have micro sd card in them to store the footage
so simply firstly deauthing wifi and then physically stealing the device removes all evidence

[gloomy nacelle]

not really needed for security because of no bad people around... more of a surveillance of aroundings..

[rich venture]

then its fine

you could use esp32cam then

[gloomy nacelle]

i have couple of those but they have no night vision and low fps

[rich venture]

low fps if cam quality is set way up

https://hackermagnet.com/night-vision-on-esp32-cam/
and ir is solvable

[fallen jay]

Hi, I just ordered a lot hardware like a new 2.5 GbE Switch and a Minis Forum (https://www.amazon.de/MINIS-FORUM-i5-12450H-8-Kern-CPU-Mini-Desktop-Computer/dp/B0BZCJL4J8). I planned to install Proxmox on this hardware. My first idea was to install ZoneMinder and Home Assistant in Proxmox but I'm planning to use Frigate with a Google Coral Accelerator now.

I'm a noob, so could you help me to choose the correct accelerator? ^^ Is the USB variant okay? And will everything work fine with Proxmox + HomeAssistant and Frigate container + accelerator?

Thank you very much.

[rich venture]

usb one is fine but its expensive

do you need a wifi card in that minis forum pc? bc coral accelerator can be installed in that slot

[fallen jay]

No, I don't. I will use ethernet.

Do you have a link to the bc coral accelerator? I'm looking here: https://coral.ai/products/ but don't know which one is "bc". 😄

[golden thorn]

They probably meant to say because

[cold moon]

Are you sure? Not all m.2 slots are the same even if it’s the right key

Mobo needs traces for it and support for it

[rich venture]

https://www2.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Coral/G650-04527-01?qs=sGAEpiMZZMu3sxpa5v1qrr6044Dk0q4qv2ZNGiPqW1g%3D&_gl=1*1otwusd*_ga*dW5kZWZpbmVk*_ga_15W4STQT4T*dW5kZWZpbmVk*_ga_1KQLCYKRX3*dW5kZWZpbmVk
its in stock

[rich venture]

a+e key one is a single accelerator module and uses single pcie lane

[cold moon]

Ah

[rich venture]

e key one is "special"

it uses 2 lanes for 2 accelerators

[cold moon]

Only one lane for all that power?

Crazy

Processing power not actual power usage

[rich venture]

single acceleator has 3 kind of connectivity
pcie gen2x1, usb 2 and usb 3

[cold moon]

i doubt he even needs a coral with that cpu

[rich venture]

yup

[cold moon]

my 8th gen intel cpu handles frigate with 9 cams and 2 streams

[rich venture]

what is the combined fps of cameras?

[cold moon]

combined?

[rich venture]

it doesent matter how many cameras you have, what matters is the sum of fps

coral can do 100+ fps

[cold moon]

idk

it's over 100

45 just for doorbell for one stream

• 25 times 3

• 30 times 2

• 45 times 2

and that's just for the high stream not detect medium streams too

[rich venture]

what is your inference speed?

[fallen jay]

@rich venture Just to be sure. Is this https://geizhals.de/coral-m-2-accelerator-a-e-key-g650-04527-01-a2580720.html the same like you linked? I want to order in Germany. And can I be sure that this setup will work? ^^

[cold moon]

low enough not to matter

20

[rich venture]

yes

[fallen jay]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[ionic olive]

https://modkam.ru/2022/09/12/vizualnyj-zigbee-informer-v-korpuse-gx53/

gx53 is a weird and poo standard. For whatever reason my builders put two ultra Chinese ceiling fans in that use gx53 lights 😔

part of me wants to replace both fans but that is expensive and wasteful

part of me kinda wants to build this Russian circuit board.. what could possibly go wrong 😅

[jagged crypt]

any suggestions for apex/triangle window curtains/shades/something that are controllable? (preferrably something that is "affordable") US Market.

[wanton marsh]

Does anyone know if there's anything like...an ESP32 w/ touch display that goes in a 1-gang decora switch plate? I have a 3-gang box with CansLights, FanLight, and Fan. I have a IoT switch that would combine and make controllable the FanLight and Fan...I'm not sure what to do with the empty gang. On my other one I added an extra switch and hacked it into my fan controller to control my smart plugs...but that hasn't gone well. The low voltage on the switch seems to cut in and out randomly.

[wild atlas]

https://github.com/HASwitchPlate/HASPone it's even open source

You can buy kits or prebuilts too

[tawny viper]

Generally fans don't work well with smart switches or plugs unless specifically designed

[fresh sorrel]

I picked up the Konnected Garage Door Opener. I got it installed just fine, but because of my somewhat custom setup at home, it's not being discovered. Does anyone know if there is a way to manually enter an IP address of a device to "ask" HA to find it, as though it was discovered?

[tawny viper]

pretty unraid

[tawny viper]

I can report my blinds are plenty heavy

So it works, but mine has beads, and string, to pull to the side. So once again I waste money buying on Ali. Can't decide if it's worth it.

[tawny viper]

@tulip scroll

[tawny viper]

OK. Wife approves. Works for me

[ornate echo]

https://tenor.com/view/letgo-lets-goooo-pickles-lets-go-excited-gif-13808708

[tawny viper]

@ornate echo its better then @tulip scroll solution, 😛

[ornate echo]

the weights taped on?

[tawny viper]

lol yea

[wary crown]

anyone rocking a esphome with ld1115h mmWave? mine doesn't "clear" :/

[zealous dune]

clear is an keeps detecting presence?

[tawny viper]

@tulip scroll you using the solar part too or nah?

[fallow cape]

Any recommendations for smartlocks these days? I see that Ultraloq was recently kicked from the 'Works with HA' program..

[cold moon]

Kwikset zwave is a safe bet

and specifically NOT schlage or august zwave

[fallow cape]

I've only tried some really cheap kwikset hardware as an end user and haven't been a fan, is their zwave stuff any good?

[cold moon]

they follow the spec and their hardware is all supported with zwave-js

it's what most of us suggest in #zwave-archived

[fallow cape]

Good enough, ty!

[cold moon]

i assume you're in the us?

[fallow cape]

Canada but close enough to the border

I'm currently on first gen august hardware which was bluetooth only and have had countless problems with the wifi bridge, have already replace it once

[cold moon]

i'd buy the kwikset 620 series

there's probably a way to use it with bluetooth proxies with home assistant

but i dont have any personal experience with bt locks

[fallow cape]

will need multiple locks in the new place vs just one currently so it's a little moot

plus it needs retirement

[cold moon]

BT in general is kind of a bad word (to me) even tho it seems some decent stuff is available now

also you'll have to actually have a zwave mesh to use locks reliably

you cant just buy a zwave controller and locks and expect them to have good connectivity

so unless you want to buy some smart light switches or some other repeaters you might want to consider zigbee or wifi instead

https://github.com/FutureTense/keymaster this is a big benefit of zwave locks but it does have experimental zigbee2mqtt support

https://www.makeitwork-tech.com/best-smart-locks-for-home-assistant/ this guy has some decent videos/write-ups usually but ignore his suggestions for schlage/august zwave locks

oh god

[fallow cape]

I have a ST 2.0 hub kicking around somewhere that would probably do the trick that would go fairly close to the locks, switches are in the picture but I suspect the new place doesn't even have neutrals in the switch boxes so that's going to be A Thing

[cold moon]

not only is he suggesting a schlage and an august lock but he's also using a piece of shit nortek zwave stick

maybe dont click that link...

[cold moon]

n0

[fallow cape]

it's a pain in the ass but it's more stable than any of my conbees ever were lol

[cold moon]

https://www.thesmartesthouse.com/products/zooz-usb-700-series-z-wave-plus-s2-stick-zst10-700 just buy a $30 stick dude

[fallow cape]

oops dropped your mesh gl hf

oops it happened again

etc

[cold moon]

conbee are garbage too

[winged knoll]

ConBee are ... ok, just very sensitive to RF noise

[cold moon]

if you want stable zigbee you buy cc2652p sticks (or efr32 if you like zha)

[fallow cape]

when I rebuild my zigbee network I'm intending on using a skyconnect

[cold moon]

and zwave you buy 700 sticks

[cold moon]

i wouldnt

https://tubeszb.com/product/cc2652p2-based-zigbee-to-poe-coordinator-2023/

buy that if you have money to burn or another cc2652p PoE coordinator

and for zwave stick to 700 series usb controller because 800 series is literally beta at this point

[fallow cape]

Matter is an evolving standard, where the lock has many more capabilities than what is shown and varies by partner. All partner apps allow full control of your smart lock.

At this time, only Samsung SmartThings allows for pincode management.

💀

[cold moon]

so you didnt click the link i shared above huh?

keymaster supports full pincode management

i can let the poolboy or girlfriend or wife's boyfriend use single use codes

or codes that only work after 10pm

etc

whatever bullshit is written by marketing on the pages you visit isnt the truth yo

homeassistant is our savior

[fallow cape]

You linked a few! but the poe option for setting up a z-wave mesh is not quite where I am currently, may have to redo all the cat5 runs

but that was yale's statement on their matter based lock

[cold moon]

should i apoligize for sharing info?

lol

[fallow cape]

no I'm just not sure which one you're referring to

[cold moon]

https://github.com/FutureTense/keymaster this is a big benefit of zwave locks but it does have experimental zigbee2mqtt support

[fallow cape]

looking at the kwikset obsidian z-wave currently and

https://images.kwikset.com/is/image/Kwikset/obsidian-backup-power?scl=1

they've got some gigantic brains over there

[cold moon]

that's the 620 series i suggested right?

[fallow cape]

looking at their other options because I don't like the look of the 620 :p

price is a little steep though

my issue with most kwikset hardware is that it looks like fisher price made a deadbolt

[cold moon]

no deadbolts made for consumers matter

they'll break a window if they want in

[fallow cape]

I mean, sure, but I don't want to have to look at cheap rubber buttons about to fall off haha

[cold moon]

that isnt relevant but you're welcome to your opinion on it lol

i'm talking about how they abide by the zwave spec

[devout parrot]

Then put in a Schlage B60N and get a Kwikset Convert.

[fallow cape]

Is the Convert still in market? It appears to be discontinued on the website https://www.kwikset.com/products/detail/kwikset-convert-smart-lock-conversion-kit-with-z-wave-technology

or just the z-wave version is, I guess

I don't mind nerdy looking lock hardware on the exterior but I just don't want it to look DUMB nerdy looking

what I'm gathering though is that kwikset has the best z-wave implementation on the market in general

(and then you go keymaster>HA)

[cold moon]

nope

you go zwave-js -> home assisstant (integration) -> keymaster (integration)

[wild atlas]

Well I have an integration to look into, I have a kwikset zwave lock on home assistant, right now I have some automations to make sure it stays locked and not left unlocked for long periods

[spring parrot]

Has anyone tried these for wall panels? Even runs on POE https://www.crutchfield.com/p_543XTS7/Russound-XTS7.html#customer-reviews-tab

Or knows of something similar?

POE is really attractive to me, rather than the weird and wonderful Chinese stuff that doesn't get updates, though have no idea how good updates are for this.

[tawny viper]

The levellock looks cool. We already have the one "smart" Yale lock. Use for pinpads, etc. I'd prefer to retrofit my other 5 deadbolts. Really just want them to be locked. No pin pad.

[opal elk]

Hey does any one know any companies that sell PCB boards that can integrate multiple wired window and door sensors and door locks? similar to like an OmniLink panel

[boreal tendon]

Konnected?

[tulip scroll]

Nice. I still got the ugly weights but you can't see them unless youre looking for it I'm stil happy!!! 🙂

[tulip scroll]

no not using it. I just charged the unit with the provided charger and then leave it as is. People say the battery lasts a long time so Im trusting that, also the solar thing is almost as ugly as my weights lol

[plain wharf]

Have you checked out https://www.pcbway.com/ ?

[frozen stratus]

with the HA sky connect, do I simply have to add the USB device to my HA VM or how does it work?

[winged knoll]

That's a radio for #zigbee-archived and/or #thread-archived - what you do depends on what you want to use

https://skyconnect.home-assistant.io/

[bold mulch]

For people in Australia, anyone used smart blinds or blind driver?

[calm adder]

Hi, I feel its right place to ask, did any of you used fire tv cube 3? How does it feel like? (in contrast to paid yt videos) Can I use HDMI input to record non-hdcp content?

[tawny viper]

Same on solar, its right next to power and actually could leave plugged in. Thanks for motivating me to finish it.

[flat sandal]

Hi guys... what would be the low end NUC that you would use to run HA ?

Off course this depends on what will be running there... but using RPI4 capabilities as example, something that would deliver considerable better performance for things like plex or cameras streams savings...

[rich venture]

i run ha, plex, tailscale, and other services on a zotac CI320 nano with Intel N2930 and 4gb of ram
i am not running haos, i am runing debian with casaos as web ui/container manager

(plex stream in progress thats why cpu usage is kinda high)

[winged knoll]

As a rough guide a P4 has a CPUBenchmark score of about 900, but storage is limited by the USB (3.0) bus.

[zealous dune]

an N100

[flat sandal]

Thanks, for the feedback 😉

[static horizon]

Anyone here using Shelly H&T sensors? I just got one and it seems to be working, though the temp seems off. Wasn't sure if it was typical to have to set a temperature offset in the settings as a form of 'calibrating' it or something.

[tulip scroll]

You can leave it unplugged if the cable is bothering you. I don't think leaving it plugged it makes it any stronger or whatever but up to you. At least it works out of the box haha

[tawny viper]

lol yea, i'll plug it in when it does. leave the cord there. Can you use something to tighten the cable before it gets there instead of weights? like see on my white cord how we have something to keep it tight

not sure if that would work

[tulip scroll]

I've had a look, I'm not sure if there's any sort of pulleys that would help it. Dunno where I would buy for it

[velvet lotus]

Hello,

Question for something which I cannot really find an clear answer for on Google.

We have blinds at home which can be controlled using following RF 'device' (https://www.rolluikonderdelen.nl/centronic-ii-timecontrol-tc445-ii-5-kanaals-handze.html)

I was wondering which device would be able to mimic this frequency (we have 6 separate blinds which can be individually controlled using device from link above).

If their is actually something out there, can I read the current frequency from 1 blind in some way to also program the device I am searching for?

Thanks

[rich venture]

what you need is 868,3 MHz transciever but the problem is that support for 868,3 MHz is much smaller than 433 MHz

[velvet lotus]

I noticed that, very difficult to find this at the moment.

[devout parrot]

I believe you could possibly #diy-archived something out of an esp board and a CC1101.

Not a hub, a USB or POE Zigbee coordinator. This is the list people usually refer people to for ZHA and z2m.
https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/adapters/

Also see https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/#known-working-zigbee-radio-modules
From the HA documentation.

[heady glacier]

Can somone recomend good GU10 RGBW smart light bulbs that are compatible with Home Assistant?

[devout parrot]

Looks like
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/venstar/

Yeah it connects to your WiFi network and HA can control it via the local API.

Yeah Zigbee is a good platform for sensors and for smart lighting if you're trying to get into that.

[devout parrot]

Phillips Hue

[heady glacier]

that is cheaper than phillips hue

[devout parrot]

I have a couple of Gledopto's medium base RGBW bulbs and they're decent, looks like they make a GU10 bulb that's about half the price of Hue so you can try those.

Exactly

[heady glacier]

would you recomdend using Phillips Hue if i have to use GU10. I heard it can be a pain in the ass to use Phillips Hue with Home Assistant

[devout parrot]

Hue is basically top of the line as far as Zigbee bulbs go. It goes like Hue>Ikea Tradfri>everything else caveat emptor.
It can be a PITA to do stuff with the Hue hub sometimes, but they're just Zigbee so you can run them directly connected to HA like you can any other Zigbee device.

[heady glacier]

yes i herad in a video from "Make it work" that Hue lamps cant be put into pairing mode onece disconectet frome HA and that you have to use the Brige if that happens.

[devout parrot]

Nah you just need one of their wireless dimmer things. You put it close to the bulb and hold down a button or something.

Not as easy as flicking a light switch 3-5 times but not too much trouble.

[heady glacier]

I have 3 questions now.

1. I can conect the bulbs from Hue to the Hue Brige and then conect the brige to HA right?
2. Since the Hue Brige/Bulbs use zigbee can i use the Hue Brige to conect other Zigbee devices too?
3. My parents have Hue lamps in theyr home and told me they use wifi. So whats up with that. Does Hue use both?

[heady glacier]

ah okay yes i think he said that too

[devout parrot]

1. yes
2. some but not all, I think most non-hue bulbs will work but aside from that it's specifically "friends of Hue" certified devices, which limits your options to a handful of switches iirc. If you want more than just bulbs you should probably get a proper Zigbee coordinator.
3. Philips makes Hue and they make "WiFi smart" bulbs, plus the Hue hub uses WiFi to connect to your network, so your parents either don't have Hue bulbs or they do and they're referring to the hub and/or don't really know how everything works.

But yeah most people, especially those who didn't already have a Hue setup before getting into HA, just connect Hue bulbs directly to HA via a Zigbee coordinator.

[heady glacier]

Okay yeah I think that is also the thing I will do

I am currently working on my new bedroom and I wanted to do a little light and automatisation with HA because I i think I will find it fun to play with a more tecnical approach to home automation

Would you be okay if would write you down my plan that i laid down so far so that you could take a look at it?

I would really appreciate it if you could point me to some errors I might have made

[devout parrot]

Sure.

[polar crest]

Anyone knows if this can be paired with HA?

[heady glacier]

should i write it to you privately

[winged knoll]

You'd have more luck sharing a make and model, not a screenshot of some app

[devout parrot]

Nah put it somewhere in here so other people can see it and provide feedback too.

[polar crest]

Sorry, its an Avatto Multi Remote Control (IR, Zigber and BL)

[winged knoll]

I suspect it expects to be the brains, not a device you control

[polar crest]

I ask because the zigbee hub is paired with HA so if this expect to be the "brains" then the zigbee devices will not work...am I right?

[devout parrot]

I would say that probably won't integrate? It's also Tuya.
The description is misleading, it wants to be able to connect to a hub and send commands to that for Zigbee devices, it doesn't support Zigbee directly.

[zealous dune]

it can integrate the functions showing as supported when polling the device

run https://github.com/blakadder/tuya-uncover and see which dp's are picked up

[heady glacier]

acctualy i just realised i havent even finished planing it into the fullest yet

[brave fiber]

Is it possible and has anyone made their own smart power plug? Using ESP chips. If yes I would need some advice how to do it. Do I need a SSR?

[zealous dune]

you don't need it but you can use it

[rich venture]

what do you want from it?

[heady glacier]

Does something like this exist that uses zigbee?

https://www.leddiretto.it/2421-pannello-full-touch-wifi-rgbcct-4-zone-base-magnetica-black.html?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwn_OlBhDhARIsAG2y6zOuslPkhgyhZLfB20G0V6zbD-zpqylZ4q3iUB156k_DFh9K39zQv4caAqpFEALw_wcB#/188-colore_del_corpo-nero

[golden thorn]

There's this: https://miboxer.com/product/rgbcct-remote-zigbee-3-0
but it's severely restrictive: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/FUT089Z.html

[heady glacier]

i need somthing i can stick to the wall

a remote sticking to the wall sadly doesn't look so good

Mi boxer has a zegbee tab with controlers on theyr shop but the website refuses to load on my pc

[zealous dune]

like this https://zigbee.blakadder.com/iluminize_511.541.html

[heady glacier]

Yes like that

[heady glacier]

Just asking; is it possible to convert this to ZigBee?

[zealous dune]

how good are you with hardware design and coding zigbee firmware?

[heady glacier]

Okay so it is not possible for me

[devout parrot]

Why does it need to be Zigbee? As long whatever you buy integrates with HA you can use it to control your Zigbee devices.

[fallow cape]

all the wall panel chat above is making me ponder some sort of epaper/eink wall panel thing

but trying to source those always feels like an exercise in frustration

wildly off topic but I've had a project on the backburner for ages now where I want to do a calvin and hobbes comic showing one comic a day but nobody makes an eink screen in the right size/ratio

[tawny viper]

I have that remote, its absolutely perfect for my 5 year old

She can control the lights in her room, I really don't even care about getting notified in HA. it just works.

she has a ceiling light, a hue lamp, and under the bed RGB. Can control them all from there. I like it "because" its restrictive. Hard to mess up, :)

[frigid pumice]

Any significant upgrade between 700 and 800? I’m in the market for a zwave and I want to make sure I don’t make a mistake

[cold moon]

I suggest taking my advice lol

[frigid pumice]

Zooz it is then

[cold moon]

800 devices are fine just not the controller

[frigid pumice]

Got it. Thanks

[tawdry lake]

hey!

ive been having a mind breaking issue

i have no idea what it is...

My phone keeps disconnecting when adding a smart device to my 2.4

but when my phone does not disconnect, the device "fails to connect to the router"

The DHCP is fine. signal strength is ok, channel is free.

i tried numerous apps but all have the same behavior

i have a ddwrt router

any help is very appreciated!!!!!

[sharp jewel]

Can anyone recommend home security camera that are hard wired & wifi connectivity? My electrician didn’t run PoE, just power 😑

[heady glacier]

Is this mi boxer control panel also able to control Philipps hue lights and WLed controlled light Strips?

And if yes how would that work?

[zealous dune]

@crisp zealot if you have the budget for a Yellow or Rpi4 I'd recommend an N100 based mini PC which in my case idles on around 8W

[crisp zealot]

Im not familiar with an n100 based pc. What would make it a better choice than the yellow for example ?

[zealous dune]

it's an x86 PC that's at least 4 times as powerful

[golden thorn]

Well it's a "real PC" for one that can run basically any software. If you later want to run more software and virtualize or something you can't really do that with a yellow.
Or say you want to boot from a live iso to debug something. Not to mention that it's a bit niche and getting help for specoiifics is hard(er).

[zealous dune]

didn't wanna say that, some people get offended when saying that

apparently Rpi is also a PC for some

[crisp zealot]

n100 based computer is apparently hard to come by in Denmark 😛

[golden thorn]

Take a look at the stats here to see how other people run HA: https://analytics.home-assistant.io/
There's always some bias with such systems, of course, as certain groups are more likely to disable analytics.

I would recommend not to look for a specific model or CPU but just for the type Mini PC/(U)SFF on a marketplace/shop/eBay/aliexpress and buy what's available/cheap.
If you're not familiar with the hardware you can compare benchmark scores to the N100 here: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+N100

[uncut badger]

https://www.refurbed.dk/p/lenovo-thinkcentre-m700-i6th/11760/ for example. (No idea how good a site that is.)

(They will use more power than the n100)

[golden thorn]

Don't buy a T model unless you have a good reason. They idle the same but have a limited ceiling (takes longer to go back to idle) which you can set up yourself if need be.
I guess they can make the difference between passive or not but other than that I see no good reason for this.

[devout parrot]

Just run the cable yourself it's easy. I have an NVR and 7 POE cameras and I did all that myself. WiFi isn't good for security cameras if you actually want them to be reliable.

[uncut badger]

'easy' 😉 as long as the actual cable run is easy. sometimes it's a pain in the ass. having it being a network cable is easy.

[devout parrot]

Yeah it probably depends on the house. I live in a 1950 single story house, so I ran the cables through the attic, and then just put a small brush plate at the edge of the ceiling and ran them down the wall through a raceway to the NVR.

[uncut badger]

I'm in a brick built flat. 😉 And all my floors are covered up with flooring which would be hard to get up

[zealous dune]

You don't have international shipping to denmark?

[wild atlas]

Man the easy cable run I did in my old house still required holes in sheet rock and a bunch of spackle in the corner

Luckily it was the only one needed

[crisp zealot]

What is wrong with the T models ?
https://www.refurbed.dk/p/dell-optiplex-7040-micro-usff-in/

[uncut badger]

https://versus.com/en/intel-core-i5-6500-vs-intel-core-i5-6500t

the T is clock speed limited

[golden thorn]

Read my message again?

[crisp zealot]

im not really sure about the meaning sorry. But will it translate to some like the 6500 is faster ? and the T uses lower wattage ?

[golden thorn]

Then just trust me on this. But pretty much. They will use the same energy in idle but the non T can go higher/faster if needed

[heady glacier]

guys i am stuck right now i need some help

i need a wall controll panel to controlle some Hue RGB bulbs and a WLED controlled light strip

i have no idea witch of those i find on google (wich are alleready few) are actually compatible

[wild atlas]

Why not setup a generic tablet with home assistant (wallpanel or fully kiosk browser) and create a dashboard to control things there

Removes a lot of the compatibility problems with prebuilts and let's you customize to your use case

[heady glacier]

i was serching for something that is straight forward

if you know what i mean by that

[wild atlas]

Plug n play has it's benefits

[heady glacier]

you talkin about the tablet being plug n play right?

[wild atlas]

Oh nope, takes some setup but it'll be fully compatible and you can customize every bit of it to make it do what you want it to

Mine I have setup for just a general display, but wouldn't be hard to add a dashboard to hass with all the light controls you want and then have the tablet load that page by default

I just don't recommend fire tablets, they're dirt cheap but take more configuration to make them play nicely

[heady glacier]

more like a tablet i would prefer something smaler

is the sonoff NS Panel a good choice?

or do you know a cheaper alternative that is about the same?

[sudden minnow]

Not if you want something simple to set up. If you want something small, dig out an old smart phone from a drawer and use that rather than a tablet.

[heady glacier]

well yeah it would probalby be simpler but it would also look really cheap to have a phone sticking to the wall

i just found this thing: https://it.aliexpress.com/item/1005003687849133.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis!EUR!32%2C67€!22%2C87€!!!!!%40211b801816902100705493745e6cad!12000026806758290!btf&_t=pvid%3A1de4d412-7259-4fa9-aed6-10b152c2e27a&spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.mainProduct&gatewayAdapt=glo2ita

it uses Zigbee3.0 so it schould be able to controll my Hue Lamps right?

[zealous dune]

no

it potentially could if it adheres to Zigbee spec

[heady glacier]

can i conect this peace of garbage to HA then?

[zealous dune]

seeing it's Tuya the answer is probably not

[wild atlas]

It looks like the screen is designed to control a connected light strip, not to signal everything over ZigBee, but it might have the ability to

I'm sus of a lot of smart things on AliExpress though

[zealous dune]

why aliexpress? amazon has more sus stuff

[wild atlas]

Well, both then, Amazon just gets a default sus for more than just smart stuff

[zealous dune]

if you mean the black square wall panel thingy it likely connects to the led controller with a custom RF protocol

the controller itself is supported in some Zigbee gateways

[heady glacier]

if yes then i could conect my Hue lamps to HA and use the feedback from this controler and react to it over HA to controll the lamps

[zealous dune]

even if you could you'd dislike it due to the latency involved

[wild atlas]

You'd also want to check forums first to see if it would work at all

See if someone else has gotten it and tested it out

[heady glacier]

Would changing my lamps from Philipps to another manufacturer solve my problem?

[zealous dune]

the problem of not liking the look of typical Zigbee remotes stuck on the wall?

[heady glacier]

What is a "typical ZigBee remote"

What does one look like

[tawdry lake]

hey!
ive been having a mind breaking issue
i have no idea what it is...

My phone keeps disconnecting when adding a smart device to my 2.4
but when my phone does not disconnect, the device "fails to connect to the router"
The DHCP is fine. signal strength is ok, channel is free.
i tried numerous apps but all have the same behavior
i have a ddwrt router
any help is very appreciated!!!!!

[gloomy spoke]

is that related to HA in some way?

[tawdry lake]

not really sadly.. But i really have no idea where to ask

[gloomy spoke]

ok. This is the server for Home Assistant. I don't know where to direct you, but this certainly isn't it

[tawny viper]

Disable 5g completely

I found my missing pi4. Wish I had found it sooner when they were going for stupid money.

Put me in a good mood

[acoustic dew]

Hello, A question about naming. I have 7 Kauf plugs in setup. 90% of the elements are named the same. i.e. Kauf Plug Button Config etc is there a proper or easy way to name each devices elements all at once with the device so that like "KaufCouch1 Button Config" passes through to rename all the individual elements? I mean there are 27 elements in each of thse LOL

[gloomy spoke]

renaming the device should do that

and it will ask you if you also want to rename the entities

[loud mirage]

So I am just discovering that all of my fan/lights in my house are wired with 12/2 instead of 12/3 which means smartifying them is really going to need to include a relay (or two) in the fan's junction box, right?

[acoustic dew]

Interesting I just tried that, it asked, I affirmed and it didnt rename it all

Thank you @gloomy spoke 🙂

[gloomy spoke]

ok

[devout parrot]

Not if you make a cool mount for it.

[steep cave]

hi folks. I'm considering using Shelly or Sonoff to smarten my old light switches and I wondering about a particular situation: if I remotely activate the switch can I turn it off via the switch?

[fringe crater]

Yes. Basically you wire the light to only be controlled by the shelly, and the switch is disconnected from the light and just becomes an input to the shelly to tell it to turn the load on or off.

[steep cave]

Thank you. In this case, do I physically turn on the switch then turn it off?

[fringe crater]

For a shelly that is one option, or it can behave so that the light toggles on any toggle of the switch.
I assume Sonoff would have the same but I can't attest.

[empty summit]

I did something dumb. I changed IP from auto to static, and used something wrong. Now it’s not working

is there any command I can run on the HAOS console?

nvm fixed it

[drifting ember]

Cross posting is generally frowned upon btw

[boreal tendon]

Not released yet but there is this https://www.crowdsupply.com/slaesh-gmbh/smahoo

https://github.com/slaesh/smahoo

[heady glacier]

Okay but even if I were going to use a phone I still have a problem.
I need at least 2 Panels one at the entrance and one next to my bed and as far as i know I only have one old Xiaomi Redmi 4 phone left that works

[heady glacier]

Also I think that especially next to the bed something smaler like the NS Panel would be more comfortable

[devout parrot]

Yeah, could be worth the effort of setting up the NSPanel. It's not that bad, you've got to do a little firmware flashing and a little yaml-ing, but there are plenty of guides online.

[uncut badger]

I like button pads, rather than panels, but my action on them would be pretty limited by design.

[heady glacier]

yes im just unsure what approach to take.
I could Buy the NS Panel Pro and put an android version on it (or whatever he does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1Dqdz8yHDc&ab_channel=MarkWattTech)
or i could buy the NS Panel and flash it

The question is if i flsch it what firmware would you recomend i should put on this thing?

or better said witch UI should i install on it

[zealous dune]

nspanel pro

[heady glacier]

i thought of using a ns panel pro at the entrence because of the sensores it has and a normal NS Panel next to my bed

[zealous dune]

sure

[heady glacier]

if i were to do that would you recomend using the Bluprint by Blackymas or the Lovelace UI for the NS Panel?

[zealous dune]

whichever suits your need the best, they're both free

[heady glacier]

okay imma take a closer look at both of them

[urban abyss]

https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005004944375599.html
has someone tried this kind of temp sensor (the wifi version)? is there any way of makin g them work locally?

[zealous dune]

yes there is

[urban abyss]

i'm guessing they have the custom tuya chip? so you use openbeken on them?

[zealous dune]

they do use a custom tuya chip. i don't use openbeken on them

[urban abyss]

how do you use them?

[zealous dune]

i don't

wifi temperature sensors on batteries are not good

[heady glacier]

Do i need to use WS2815 or can i use WS2812B light strips if i want to make an 4,5meter long LED Strip without having to do power injection?

60LED/meter

[zealous dune]

Higher voltage less power injection needed

[heady glacier]

doo i need power injection for a 4.5 meter LED strip?

[winged knoll]

https://wled-calculator.github.io/

[heady glacier]

thanks 👍

[drifting grove]

From time to time my ZigBee 3 stick loses connection, with home Assistant running in a virtual box virtual machine on windows 10...is this a known problem?

[tawny viper]

Any suggestion on A15 Edison Bulbs, smart?

https://www.amazon.com/GE-Reveal-Ceiling-Equivalent-Dimmable/dp/B07874J412?th=1

am I blind? I see Wiz has them, but not hue

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Smart-Home-Smart-Lighting-Smart-Light-Bulbs/A15/N-5yc1vZc7chZ1z0vvqn

[balmy halo]

Does anyone here use Ubuntu Core + Ubuntu Frame / mir-kiosk to have a full screen browser window with their HA url for a display? I have this running on a Surface tablet with no issues and am working on a pi3 and touchscreen monitor for my wall… Are there any reasons you see not to use this setup?

[warm helm]

Any way to reduce the range of ThirdReality motion sensor? It's mounted on the ceiling over my kitchen entry and being triggered by my cat on the floor. If it could only detect say 4 feet down instead of 7 that would be better. There's no suitable place to mount it horizontally.

[heady glacier]

can the ns panel be mounted and used horizontal when flashed with the Blueprint of Blackymas?

[heady glacier]

by horizontal i ment like this

[signal latch]

Maybe someone was able to configure onboard rgb led in esphome for esp32-c3
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrltPpY

[zealous dune]

it's a pwm led
GPIO03 PWM 1
GPIO04 PWM 2
GPIO05 PWM 3

[vapid socket]

If I wanted to install a smart led light in my garage, what are my options if the following is not possible:

1. Cannot insert shelly in wall
2. Cannot use smart light bulb, but must use a lamp (like an led panel)

I've tried to find something suitable for an hour or so already and didn't have any success at all

[split frigate]

I migrated to a home assistant yellow and migrated my zigbee radio to the yellow onboard zigbee radio. I still want to use my USB for zwave, but it keeps killing my zigbee whenever I reboot where I have to manually select the yellow onboard zigbee radio. The USB has both zigbee and zwave. How can I set it to automatically pick the yellow onboard zigbee?

[winged knoll]

#zigbee-archived can help with Zigbee

[split frigate]

Thank you!

[rich venture]

Can you replace switch with smart one?

[devout parrot]

How does your existing light work?

[vapid socket]

I can! But I haven't found a suitable smart light that suits a garage 🤔 any suggestions?

[vapid socket]

I don't have one yet tbh🤷

[solemn citrus]

Any recommendations for energy monitoring plug. I ordered https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BYGRLRS1 but they are not supported :/

[tacit burrow]

What do you mean not supported? I've got a bunch of Kasa plugs

[devout parrot]

Obligatory "Sonoff S31 flashed with esphome" recommendation.

[solemn citrus]

me too, but this one specifically is a nono https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/tplink#unsupported-devices

[tacit burrow]

OK. Mine are KP115(AU)

[devout parrot]

Great so you have every option in the world.
What do you do in your garage? Just store your car and miscellaneous junk in there or do you use it as a workspace or what?
I'd personally put in a fixture designed for direct wire T8 LED tubes and then put that on a smart switch.

[inland trout]

Anyone have experience with Shelly relays? I've got one that's new but not showing up on WiFi or BT

[fringe crater]

They start off by broadcasting a hotspot that you need to join right?

[inland trout]

They should but nothing is showing up. It's a Shelly 1 v3 on 120v, the jumper is removed.

[fringe crater]

I thought you always need the jumper installed, unless that's changed since I last looked at them

[inland trout]

Removed for 120, then set in A or B position for 12v vs 24-60

[inland trout]

Upon further investigation you are correct. The manual is just poorly designed

[tawny viper]

@tacit burrow if you dont want to flash a s31 yourself, https://cloudfree.shop/product/sonoff-s31-flashed-with-tasmota/ sells some products, and they donate some profits to open source projects

[tacit burrow]

I'm AU plugs, bit more tricky to source

[rich venture]

Are you in 120v or 230v region and do you have neutral wire in the junction box under the switch that you want to smartify ?
Also do you want it to be wifi, ZigBee or z-wave?

[vapid socket]

Just for the car.

What smart switch do you have in mind?

[vapid socket]

I'm on 230V here 😀
Idk about the wire, though.
Zigbee and WiFi are good options. I'd be willing to buy zwave hub if the lamp is nice, so I can play with zwave

[vapid socket]

The switch looks like this

[rich venture]

You do have a neutral since there is outlet below it

Do you have a junction box above it?

[vapid socket]

Mh, possibly, there is a neutral, yes. But I'm not an electrician and must not interfere 😵‍💫 why do you ask?

There should be a junction above, yes. I'm currently baby sitting, so can't go downstairs 🙃

[merry dust]

Can someone recommend a 3-phase mains watt/amp/voltage meter with some interface, like i2c/spi/etc ?

[winged knoll]

You forgot to mention the country - won't do people much good to recommend you a 220V device when you need 110V

[rich venture]

you can get modbus energy meter

[merry dust]

Sorry, yeah, 220AC, 3 phases 120 degrees apart, but I guess 3 1-phase once would work as well

[rich venture]

what is your budget and how many amps should meter support?

[merry dust]

some of my breakers are rated for 16A, others for 25A, so I guess 25A, budget is dunno, it's not like I really need this, I just want to play around with it, so on the side of cheap.

actually, maybe 10-15amp / phase would be enough, I doubt I have anything that draws such a huge current

[rich venture]

there are 2 types
63a - wired with power in/power out
and above 63a - wired with current transformer clamps and voltage sense wires

[merry dust]

yeah, I really don't need above 63a

[rich venture]

if you want something easy to work with home assistant you can get shelly 3em
if you want something to hook up to microcontroler or something else diy https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003463408051.html

[merry dust]

Yeah, my power consumption is limited by 15kW on all 3 phases combined, which is around 63 amps at that voltage. @rich venture So I should get DDSU666 80A - this? Says 80A, but on the photo it says 0.25-0.5(80)A meaning it needs current sensing coil?

[rich venture]

no that one doesent require ct

one that says "DTSU666-CT 1.5(6)A" needs additional ct

[merry dust]

hmm, what's the operating temperature on those? Shelly 3em on ali says 0-40, which doesn't fit the range of temperatures here.

[rich venture]

this is datasheet

-40 to 75c

[merry dust]

great, thanks!

[rich venture]

what will you hook up to that energy meter?

microcontroller or a pc

[merry dust]

something with esp32 I think

I also have some old ARM boards with lots of gpios that can run linux

[rich venture]

i would also pick up usb to rs485 modbus adapter for initial testing

[merry dust]

yeah, those are cheap, should probably do that, and maybe if I go arm board route I can keep it

[rich venture]

there is some docs here on github https://github.com/elfabriceu/DTSU666-Modbus

modbus adresses, data types etc

[merry dust]

Great, thanks again!

@rich venture okay, so if I get this I should be good: https://ae04.alicdn.com/kf/Sb4fb91365eb142648022e156a81cdebfj.jpg_640x640.jpg right?

[rich venture]

yup looks good

[merry dust]

@rich venture https://aliexpress.ru/item/4001292465841.html this good for the converter?

[rich venture]

i bought this kind

[merry dust]

yep, saw them and bought 1 as well, really cheap

What do I use for RS485 wire? If the distance is short, do I need twisted pair?

[rich venture]

you can just use ethernet cable

in my solar install they used cat6 cable

[merry dust]

got it

[rich rapids]

What's recommended for 433MHz receivers these days? I got recommended a Sonoff RF Bridge, but it looks like the one I got (White V2) isn't supported by Tasmota

Should I just return this one and get the Black V2?

[gritty pollen]

The manuals really do annoying get "riiight" up to the line of being decent but miss by a bit.. At least the shelly devices are really good. We have 150 devices in our exhibition at work and we've had only 1-2 failures a year. The website sometimes have updated manuals compared to what comes in the box too which helps :)

[shrewd gorge]

Looking for a machine to run barebones HAOS on. Has anyone done the research on buying a used SFF/Mini PC/NUC verses a used laptop of similar specs? Is there a price difference one way or another?
Trying to see if I should get a laptop instead since it's got a built in UPS plus keyboard/mouse/screen when needed.

[zealous dune]

If you want the built in ups get a second hand laptop

[shrewd gorge]

Though, is a UPS even needed? If everything else in my home goes down too anyways?

[winged knoll]

A controlled shutdown is always nice

[shrewd gorge]

Are there any other pros or cons to using a laptop over a mini pc?

[uncut badger]

the battery will not last. you'll get like 10 minutes eventually. and eventually it'll probably start being a spicy pillow

[keen charm]

Anyone have suggestions for sirens? Bought a Zigbee one that doesn't work, wifi or Zigbee is fine but I want native support and a known working product. I'm in the EU, and most of what I am finding either isn't available, is part of another ecosystem or doesn't work 😦

[winged knoll]

See the recent chatter in #general-archived

[keen charm]

Ah, I'll bring it up there

[shrewd gorge]

10 minutes would probably be plenty for a controlled shutdown. A spicy pillow wouldn't be good though.
I guess a laptop has less expandability options, and worse heat dissipation (though not an issue with HA).

[uncut badger]

The spicy pillow thing isn't too much of an issue. just keep an occasional eye on the device.

[shrewd gorge]

Sure.

[rich venture]

if laptop supports limiting charge percentage then it would eliminate/delay spicy pillow problem

[shrewd gorge]

Would HAOS support that though?

Found this laptop: https://www.ebay.com/itm/195875504986

Comparable in price to this SFF PC: https://www.ebay.com/itm/204401076200

[rich venture]

that is up to bios/hardware to support

[shrewd gorge]

Makes sense

[drifting ember]

Delay only, not eliminate

[warm helm]

Is there a different term for a smart switch which doesn't have to be part of an existing circuit? i.e. it's just a button to push to send an event to HA.

[tacit burrow]

A generic bluetooth/zigbee/zwave switch? I'd think it would just be called zigbee switch, scene controller, etc

[warm helm]

"scene controller" eh? I'll search for that. Think I want to find one to mount on the wall where the light switch used to be - where people expect a switch to be.

[inland trout]

The amusing thing is the video from them about installing it in a 120v application didn't mention the jumper at all.

[devout parrot]

I use an Aqara Zigbee "mini switch" for that kind of thing. Single tap toggles the laundry room light, long press toggles the attic light.

[rare tulip]

I have spare Gpd win max 2021 1tb 16gb RAM Intel Core i7-1195g7 mini laptop. I would like to run ha, transmission, Plex, next cloud on it.
But as I understood better is to sell it and buy mini PC because of spicy pillow effect?

[cold moon]

No use it

You can remove the battery I’d you feel that serious about the pillow

Don’t run all that on haos tho.. use something like proxmox

[rare tulip]

Yes that's exactly what I thought. I was just thinking to run some VM solution under Windows. It better format and install proxmox?

[cold moon]

Don’t run windows as a server dude

No one does that

[rare tulip]

So format c: and install proxmox

I don't have much experience with proxmox. Only with hyper-v. But I guess there are lots of guides online 🙂

[cold moon]

https://www.derekseaman.com/2023/06/home-assistant-proxmox-ve-8-0-quick-start-guide.html

Do that

[rare tulip]

Thank you!

[static beacon]

Hi there. I have been building my smarthome on home assisstant for the last 5 years now. Started with a raspi 3b then a 4 and after that switched to an intel i5 and now I'm running a nuc i7. The problem I have at the moment is that the i7 nuc starts to become slow. I have 7 cameras with motion and person detection running frigate which uses a ton of resources even with a google coral. Now to come to the point I wonder if using an Intel core i9 will make things better. Does home assistant os supports all modern CPU's to be utilized 100% or is it better to get lesser cores with higher clockspeeds

[true fractal]

do you have all the hardware acceleration working properly with frigate?

[static beacon]

Yes. The cpu is running between 25 and 65% load depending on how much movement there is in the camera feeds. But I see some slowdowns in loading pages and addons when the nuc runs to 65% load. So I wonder if ha uses the full cores or that a part of it can't be used

[true fractal]

are you running haos? or in an environment such as unraid/proxmox?

reason I'm asking is, you could pin cores if using unraid/proxmox

and, i believe motion detection is on the CPU, believe Coral only helps with the object detection

i guess you're using the low res stream for detection?

[static beacon]

I have 8 cameras that use the main stream so high res. The low resolution streams are so low that the detection isn't very well on distance

I installed Hass os directly on an m2 and inserted it in a nuc so it's not running in a virtual machine

[true fractal]

icic.. do the cameras have onboard detection abilities?

i have a feeling the motion detection is what is causing your performance challenge...

[uncut badger]

What you might want to think about is, instead of upgrading everything, have a second machine. have frigate on dedicated hardware.

[static beacon]

Yeah that was another option I was thinking about. Maybe run frigate outside home assistant. I could even go back to a raspi 4 when frigate is removed from ha. Without it ha runs at 2% cpu load. My cameras do have own detection but my imou cameras aren't very well integradable in ha. I have one reolink camera at the moment and that one has all the features exposed to ha. I wish I knew that earlier...

[heady glacier]

Does the Raspberrypi 4 model B have an SD or micro SD slot?

[winged knoll]

I don't believe any Pi has had a full sized SD card slot

[heady glacier]

Yes you are right i was just confused because someone in a video showed a SD card when explaing how to set up home assistant on a Pi

[winged knoll]

It may be that they showed a microSD card in an adapter

Or that they were just very confused

[steady void]

Can i upgrade the firmware of Aqara devices from HA? Specifically the lumi.airmonitor.acn01.

Using ZHA

[winged knoll]

#zigbee-archived can answer that

[sleek summit]

Does anyone know of a multi button remote that one could connect to home assistant ? I would prefer WiFi but can work with whatever. I don’t care the price of the device and I’m in Canada but can order from wherever.

[outer knot]

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

• Which country you're in
• What your budget is
• What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
• Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)

[crimson tulip]

personally, I find all the good multi button remotes are zigbee or zwave

but that will be expensive

[sleek summit]

It’s a solution for an old fellow that needs this kind of thing. I’m not too worried about the price. It’s not just for my home project

[winged knoll]

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/supported-devices/#s=remote lists a stack of Zigbee options

[crimson tulip]

I've used Zigbee and Zwave ones, both work great, but I end up just using my phone instead

[sleek summit]

I would absolutely build something nice on a tablet for him but the actual use of a touch screen is the issue there

[winged knoll]

I've used, and still use, Z-Wave and Zigbee remotes

[crimson tulip]

yeah, then I'd go zigbee because it's cheaper than zwave and youg et the same functionality

[winged knoll]

Annoyingly they no longer make the Z-Wave version of https://nodon.fr/en/nodon/enocean-soft-remote/

[sleek summit]

thanks everyone

appreciate the input

(see what I did there?)

[fading ingot]

Does anyone know of a smart diffuser that can send notifications when the water tank is empty? I know I could just add a leak sensor, but I'm hoping to find an all in one solution if possible

Lots of them have an auto shut-off when the tank runs dry, so I could maybe notify when it turns off outside of the automation schedule, but I think I'll get a ton of false positive from people manually turning it on/off...

[gritty pollen]

I personally just plopped a strain gauge under the 'foot' of my chonk of a humidifier and I trigger on the weight dropping below a threshold. That way I avoid modifying the product at all and just have a platform with the sensor in it for the thing to sit on. Worked great while I used it.

[fading ingot]

That definitely sounds preferable to the leak sensor if I can't find an AIO solution, thanks!!

[wild atlas]

That plus a smart plug and you can automate it turning on and off and monitoring water levels

[vernal grotto]

I really wouldn't go Wi-Fi, as those are said to be very slow (they have to connect to the network evertime you want to send a command).

I use https://www.shelly.cloud/en/products/shop/shelly-blu-button1 but I really can't vouch for the distance since I have a really small apartment. 😅

[sleek summit]

great input on the wifi having to reconnect. I figured it would work that way given that its a battery device. Thanks!

[vernal grotto]

Yeah. I saw it in a video comparing remotes. If I find it again I'll share here.

https://youtu.be/B-AKnFAVzsY

[boreal tendon]

RPi1 originally had full sized SDCards 😅

[wild atlas]

I still have a few in my drawer too, ran one until... 2018 I think when I finally replaced that server

[drifting ember]

until the 1B+ came along

[wild atlas]

Did that also bring along a ram upgrade too?

I vaguely recall the ram getting bumped pretty quick after the first edition

[boreal tendon]

I remember one model would crash if you took a picture of it with the flash on.

"The Raspberry Pi Foundation started to look into the issue, it found that the kind of light emitted by a camera flash could cause the processor's core voltage to drop, turning the Pi 2 off"

[drifting ember]

I'm pretty sure it did, now I have to go check

[drifting ember]

yes 256mb to 512mb

[wild atlas]

Early adopters lost on that one, but they weren't expensive or hard to get at that point

[wild atlas]

That reminds me that I have an Amazon dash button I can integrate into hass

[drifting ember]

those still work?

[wild atlas]

Lol, not with, they discontinued the service years ago, but there's an unofficial add-on that'll provide support for them though

[drifting ember]

well that's what I meant really

I would have bought some had I realized that they didn't need the cloud to work

[wild atlas]

https://github.com/danimtb/dasshio no updates in a while but the system seems simple enough

[drifting ember]

I kinda wish I bought some zigbee/zwave buttons or similar because they are handy AF

[wild atlas]

At most it would need updates to work with newer home assistant versions

[tacit burrow]

Yeah I need some buttons. Make it easier for wife to do things.

[cold moon]

get a cube to play with

[wild atlas]

i built a bunch of keypads with esphome

they're wired, not portable, but super convinient

[cold moon]

https://ring.com/products/alarm-keypad-v2 these can be used fully local with a zwave mesh i'd like a couple

well i think the v2 does i'd have to confirm

[boreal tendon]

Are you using the esphome alarm module?

[terse pebble]

I'm using that one. Integrates very well with Alarmo and a blueprint.

[cold moon]

which blueprint?

and what kind of battery life/drain are you seeing?

can you share the exposed entities from zwave-js?

[terse pebble]

https://github.com/ImSorryButWho/HomeAssistantNotes/blob/main/RingKeypadV2.md
This is a good documentation for integrating Keypad v1 and v2. There is a blueprint for each keypad, which syncs it to the HACS integration Alarmo (should also work with the stock alarm control panel).

Battery life... enormous

[cold moon]

do you have it mounted outside?

[terse pebble]

226 sensor entities, 166 configuration entities, 22 diagnostics entities (most of them are Ring system specific and mostly useless for us)

No. It is an indoor device

[cold moon]

do you have fire/police/medical buttons doing anything?>

[boreal tendon]

https://esphome.io/components/alarm_control_panel/index.html

[terse pebble]

Most useful is the exposed motion sensor of the keypad. There tons of configuration options, which can be done with Z-Wave parameter values (languages, volumes, playing chimes and so on)

[cold moon]

motion sensor of the keypad?

[terse pebble]

Yes.

[cold moon]

like just PIR?

what's the retrigger interval?

[boreal tendon]

https://esphome.io/components/alarm_control_panel/template.html

[terse pebble]

It is basically a PIR and retrigger interval of about 2 seconds

[cold moon]

impressive

[boreal tendon]

You can use this for a standalone system so it still functions if alarmo/ha is dead.

[terse pebble]

Police button activates in my install the alarm, medical sends a text message to family members and fire doesn't do anything useful (yet)

[cold moon]

i dont understand what you mean by the police one

are you saying it triggers a siren?

[terse pebble]

It triggers the alarm system like a panic button (even if it is disarmed) and activates a siren

[boreal tendon]

Make it shut all the power off to everything.

[cold moon]

using direct association to a zwave siren so it works even if hass is down?

[terse pebble]

But you can make the buttons do everything. You can open and close blinds with them, if you like 😆

[cold moon]

yea

[terse pebble]

No

[cold moon]

if hass is down i have bigger problems lol

[boreal tendon]

I guess you could make it set the sirens off in the house if you see a fire and they system hasn't noticed it yet.

[cold moon]

yeah i have one zwave smoke/co detector i could direct associate with

no siren yet

[boreal tendon]

make it a toggle so if false alarm it will also turn them off 😄

[cold moon]

you cant turn them off when actually triggered by smoke or w/e

there's a minimum 30 seconds or 2 mins or something i think

i'd have to look at the manual

https://www.firstalertstore.com/store/images/pdf/zcombo-g-first-alert-z-wave-smoke-and-co-alarm-manual.pdf

maybe not

[boreal tendon]

It's more for like power outages you can just have one tiny esp32 sipping power on a battery and still have a security system going.

[cold moon]

all my sensors are / will be zigbee like door/window though

with no hass they arent very useful

[boreal tendon]

Buy a zigbee module for the esp32

[cold moon]

lol

[boreal tendon]

Technically you would just need a ESP32-C6 Wi-Fi 6 & BLE 5 & Thread/Zigbee SoC

[wild atlas]

no, though i am using the matrix keypad in esphome, they're not for security, they're for triggering various actions in home assistant

i have a button for home and away mode, activating different sets of automations to run, i have a button for christmas lights to turn them on or off, for a while, i had buttons for activating the vaccuum table and laser smart plug on my little ortur laser i had for a while

i also have some keypads that are just the lights and fan in the bedroom, so they can be turned on/off from the nightstand

[frigid sorrel]

https://myeufy.com.au/refurbished-eufy-cam-2c-pro-2k-2-camera-set-grade-b.html

Are these good with Home Assistant? They're on sale nearly 50% off right now

I've never bought security cams before but am looking to grab some

[frigid sorrel]

From what I've read it seems the HACS integration might be a hassle to get working and there are some other weird quirks too...can anyone vouch for these?

[devout parrot]

If you want security cameras my first rec is always gonna be to go hardwired.

[frigid sorrel]

And why is that? I don't really want to have to go through the effort of wiring or having to pay someone to wire em in...

*I mean that in a genuinely curious way

[devout parrot]

It's easy. I'm up to 7 POE cameras and I installed all that myself.
Security and reliability.
WiFi can drop out, WiFi is subject to interference, batteries can die/external power can fail. Video quality can be variable and sometimes degenerate entirely or have the whole camera be unavailable.

There are also exploits people can use to disable WiFi security cameras but let's be real your average creeper or burglar probably isn't going to do that. It's still a consideration though.
POE cameras just work. Consistently. Pretty much all the time. When you need to check the live stream or go back and view recordings, it's there and the quality is consistent.

[devout parrot]

Basically if you're going to do cameras you might as well go all in for something that's reliable and will continue to be reliable.
also if you're wanting cameras that integrate reliability with HA check here whether you do POE or decide to go for WiFi.
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/#camera

[frigid sorrel]

Okay that's actually great information and a good perspective. I will take that into consideration! Do POE cameras tend to cost more? You need NVRs and stuff right?

Brands like Reolink I know are expensive but generally super reliable right?

[devout parrot]

Honestly overall, it comes out cheaper or about the same. The cameras are usually cheaper than their WiFi counterparts from companies like eufy, Arlo, Nest, whoever, but then there is the cost of the NVR whether you build or buy one.
Reolink and Amcrest are kind of at the affordable end when it comes to reliable consumer grade/light commercial hardware.

And then you've got to run cables but cat5e is relatively cheap.

[wild atlas]

Low voltage wiring can also be run by anyone, if you wanted to install wifi cameras, they'd need to be battery powered or have high voltage wiring run to them, and that would require a master electrician

[uncut badger]

the wiring decisions are:
cat5e or cat6 (cat5e will do gigabit just fine. cat 6 tends to be less flexible)
solid or stranded. solid is generally cheaper, but you have to be a little more careful with bending it. you can buy a box of the stuff for not a huge amount. like £50.
UTP or FTP/STP. go with UTP. (unshielded twisted pair. Shielded is more of a pain to work with as things have to support it, or you might end up with a big antenna.)

I would suggest getting a punchdown tool, and for the cable runs, terminate the cables in boxes rather than crimping an rj45 on them. you'll still need to do that for the cable you plug into the camera (if you're feeding that through a small hole) but then it's a lot easier to replace damaged ends. because it's a short cable rather than one strung through your home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gxNZoPcnP4

(cat 6 is less flexible due to having a pair separator in the middle of it. X shaped bit of plastic.

[cobalt heath]

Anyone using the Bosch TRV II radiator valves ?

[drifting ember]

Actually the conductors are slightly larger too 23awg for cat6, 24awg for cat5e

And most cat6 has good shielding

So they all contribute to the stiffness, including the spline Steve mentioned.

[uncut badger]

https://community.fs.com/blog/should-we-use-cat6-or-cat6a-for-10gbase-t.html heh. FS saying you shouldn't use 6a at home 😉 Do they know hobbyists?

[drifting ember]

Lol I've installed all of those rated cables in data centers and I absolutely hate 6A

6A will only slightly beat 6 in a length test and imho not worth the hassle

[gritty pollen]

The absolutely best choice for cable at home is the kind you can abscond with from work without getting in trouble ;p

[drifting ember]

I actually did pull most of my house with cable from 'scrap' boxes

[violet wigeon]

I have the opportunity to move my HAOS box from a 3770k, 8gb RAM to a Ryzen 2600 16gb RAM and a 1660 Super. The 3770k is no slouch by any means and runs pretty well, however does anyone see a benefit to running a GPU? I already have a USB Coral for Frigate, but I do wonder if my video feeds would load a little better with a GPU.

[winged knoll]

Frigate can, if it gets access to the GPU, use that for decoding and more... but I don't know if HAOS exposes that - #cameras-archived would know

[distant dove]

If you are looking for an RPI...

RPI4, 4GB is available here: https://www.pishop.us/product/raspberry-pi-4-model-b-4gb/

RPI4, 8GB is available here (1,000+ in stock!!): https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/raspberry-pi/RASPBERRY-PI-4-MODEL-B-8G/12159401

[toxic spade]

Hey does any one knows this devices? Seems to be new in the game, and apartments. In Brazil are being sell with those already installed on the wall https://www.findernet.com/pt/brasil/civil-e-terciario-listing/yesly-listing/

[twilit relic]

Poe 4GB 32-bit Rpi 4

This little one is still ticking on the 5 year old SD card 😅

[cold moon]

If those were made on iOS they can be ‘lightened’

[gloomy spoke]

let me know if you get the flowers

[gentle fossil]

Setup pxe boot

Its fantastic with pis, I have at least 4 running this way now

I still have sd cards in some of them to use as local swap/cache

the only pi left booting off sd is doing that also fine for years but the sd card used in it is read only at this point and I don't care as this pi only does this one thing even in read-only

[wintry mason]

Hi, I would like to indicate when doorbell ring. I´ve system from Urmet. Is existing some easy way (aqara leak, door sensor), how to identify ring? Schema:

[eager parcel]

Hey, does anyone use a heat pump from STIEBEL ELTRON? They support holiday mode that can be configured on the pump itself or via its gateway (ISG). But the modbus documentation doesn't mention this functionality, so it's not obvious how it can be set from Home Assistant. Any advice on how it can be done is very much appreciated. I tried to look at the ISG web page, but it seems to communicate with the gateway via its own JSON protocol.

[trail stone]

would there be a performance boost when using a m.2 ssd instead of an sata ssd in a dell optiplex for HA?

[eager parcel]

Hey does anyone use a heat pump from

[rich venture]

is there a led that lights up when ringing?

or anything other than sound

[blissful comet]

Does anyone here have experience with robotic lawn mowers? Struggling to decide on what to get for my 450m2 lawn which has a "hill" of around 35 degrees

[indigo steeple]

ZigBee/Matter angst

[trail stone]

switched from a synology VM to a Dell Optiplex 3050 with 1TB SSD, 12GB Ram and Core i3-6100T.
Rebooting HA on the VM: 3:21min
Rebooting HA on the Dell: 1:06min

🚀

and its pulling 11W from the wall

[real kiln]

what the best way to have fun with a led stip ? esp32 + wled ?

[wild atlas]

Pretty much, as long as you limit the current you don't even need a power supply other than USB power

[maiden current]

I have tried this, and loved it. Be sure to only get 5V LED strips and an ample power supply if you're going to get fancy. You can do higher voltage strips but be sure to supply enough power to them.
WLED is a great software that has several dozen effects and full customization of the strip(s).

[wild atlas]

I have a few wled strips that I've setup, it becomes quite the rabbit hole as you make bigger and bigger strips and effects

[real kiln]

i used a 150 led strips with esp32 and a powerbank

is there better than ws2812 ?

[winged knoll]

https://quinled.info/2019/06/03/what-digital-5v-12v-rgbw-led-strip-to-buy/

[unborn coyote]

Hey Guys. New to HASS, i got a Raspberry Pi4 a ESP32 and MAX RS485. I got a heat recovery system that supports modbus, where do i start? Cant seem to find the right guide.

[winged knoll]

That'd be with the modbus #integrations-archived

[unborn coyote]

ty

[outer knot]

Modbus

Instructions on how to integrate Modbus and platforms.

Quality scale

:first_place: Gold

IoT Class

Local Polling

Integration type

integration

Documentation

View the documentation

Source

View the source on GitHub

Issues

View known issues

[lunar flare]

Sorry if this is a stupid question. I've found this page: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/A1Z.html#options. The options seem to not be passible through mqtt, so how would I update energy_calibration ? Is the only way to update the yaml inside zigbee2mqtt ?

[winged knoll]

That's a question for #zigbee-archived - assuming you're using Zigbee2MQTT

[lunar flare]

I am. Thanks

[thorny mantle]

Have this thermostat https://www.supplyhouse.com/Honeywell-TH4110D1007-PRO-5-2-Programmable-Thermostat-1-Heat-1-Cool-4083000-p Attached is a picture of the wiring. I want to upgrade it to a thermostat I can control from HA. What are my upgrade options? Does the black wire mean I have a "C-Wire"? How can I tell if it's a low-voltage system?

[fallow cape]

Based on the model of that thermostat and the presence of a c wire, I would say that you having a 24v system is a pretty safe bet

[thorny mantle]

Would this work with HA? https://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-Home-RTH8800WF2022-Day-Programmable-Touchscreen/dp/B09X69FSMB

[fallow cape]

possibly, not certain

[winged knoll]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations#climate are all the native climate integrations

[fallow cape]

would depend on a honeywell integration to call to their API

Nest and Ecobee are usually the safe options in this department

More towards ecobee in terms of integration into HA I think

from a quick glance I would say that honeywell thermostat should work - it is actually manufactured by Resideo and there is a distinct integration for them https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/totalconnect/

the honeywell US integration has similar naming though https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/honeywell/

[south carbon]

Not sure with the honeywell pro 4000.
I recently updated my heating only to a nest which works well in HA.
Based on your wiring, you should be able to easily change over your existing tstat.
As a reference to what you have, looks straight forward.
W - Heat
Y - Cooling
G - Fan
R - Power
C - Common

[fallow cape]

ecobee has a pretty good documentation of what each wire means and is mostly universal https://support.ecobee.com/s/articles/What-do-my-thermostat-s-wire-labels-mean

[cold moon]

Do any of you have multi zone setups?

[tawny viper]

For hvac? Yes