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cold moon
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If you use docker^

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Otherwise install in haos

flint shell
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I'm always happy to support open source, and move away from corporate stuff. Pretty much dropped Microsoft from all my devices this year

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Moved my key vaults to Bit warden, and paying them monthly for hosting to support them

cold moon
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Until Linux gaming is more than just a collection of steps to ‘kind of be like ms’ I’ll still be using windows for gaming and general desktop stuff

flint shell
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Steam is pretty good for Linux gaming

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The only windows app keeping me back is Fusion 360, only because I struggle so much to design in FreeCAD

cold moon
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My brain doesn’t like cad man

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Just not for me

flint shell
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Once I stop having so much building costs I hope to be able to send some funds towards Home assistant as a thank you for such a awesome product. Even if I've not been actively using it for 3 years

cold moon
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They don’t accept donations lol

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You can subscribe to various GitHub repo owners like zwave js etc

wild atlas
flint shell
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Sounds good, I will get them something when I have a bit more solvency. Glad to hear it's possible

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I wish more companies worked that way. Free for basic home use, but able to pay when you can, while also being open source to see what's going on and help make it better

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Or the business model that TrueNAS or PROXMOX use. Where it's free for home users in a lab setup. But enterprise support is available for business use

burnt heart
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Again, asking for help to troubleshoot the crashes of my Raspi/HA. Power supply is 5,1V/2,5A. The Raspi is idling most of the time, HA is up-to-date. Both main chips are equipped with aluminum heat sink.
Raspi/HA is crashing every 3-4 days.... 😲

winged knoll
past saffron
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hello party people

winged knoll
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You want at least an i3

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As a rough guide, a Pi4 scores a CPUMark of about 900

plain wharf
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Works well, but I don't have all that much addons and stuff

past saffron
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ram recomendations?

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is there any wiki with a list of suggested hardware?

winged knoll
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At least 4 GB, more is handy

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And no, because what's "good" depends on your budget and requirements, and where you live

past saffron
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i dont like buying small and having to upgrade later. so i'm thinking i7 8gb+ seems ideal

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i would install this on my NAS, but i keep my nas on a seperate subnet from my IoT devices

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so i want something deticated to that subnet

cold moon
past saffron
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lenovo m910q looks awesome

cold moon
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it do

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make sure to ugprade the bios using their windows tool since it comes with windows pre-installed. otherwise you gotta go cli with rufus

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then wipe windows and install w/e

past saffron
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cool

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next questions i have is about hubs

cold moon
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we dont do hubs yo

past saffron
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oh

cold moon
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for zigbee you buy a coordinator, for zwave a controller

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for thread/matter.. just ignore those for now 😛

winged knoll
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Part of the point of HA is to move away from manufacturer locked crap

past saffron
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i thought zigbee was a protocal

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that many are supporting

cold moon
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sure

past saffron
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and then it sounds like matter is coming up

cold moon
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and how do zigbee things get controlled?

past saffron
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gaining traction

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with a zigbee hub?

cold moon
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a zigbee coordinator

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we dont do hubs yo

winged knoll
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I have about 100 Zigbee devices in HA, and not a hub in sight

past saffron
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whats the diff between a zigbee hub and coordinator? is a hub locked to manuafcature?

cold moon
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most popular options are usb-based coordinators and PoE coordinators

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basically

past saffron
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ok

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i have poe already for all my APs, so PoE works

cold moon
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they're a bit pricier but are nice because you can centrally locate them well

past saffron
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got some links for poe zigbee corrdinators?

past saffron
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i thought zigbee was "mesh" and i would not need too many devices if they mesh

cold moon
past saffron
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not devices, but coordinators

cold moon
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wired devices mesh except for a few random devices that dont like sengled bulbs

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there's only one coordinator

winged knoll
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One coordinator
Many routers

cold moon
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routers (mains powered devices) repeat the signal (unless they are one of the few that dont)

past saffron
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i see

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so i need not only a coordinator, but also a router?

cold moon
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popular zigbee routers are light bulbs (hue, ikea), light switches (inovelli, aqara), or smart plugs (third reality, innr)

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no

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but also yes?

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do you want a mesh?

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if devices are close they can talk directly to coordinator

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if not, they need a next hop router or multiple to get back to coordinator

winged knoll
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No routers, no mesh

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No routers, you get a maximum range of about 6 to 8 meters from the coordinator

cold moon
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green are end devices (not routers) using routers to get back to coordinator

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this is all done for you, you just buy the shit

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you dont configure routes or anything like that

outer knotBOT
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@past saffron I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

cold moon
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that's all possible

winged knoll
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The WiFi stuff though may not work with HA

cold moon
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but yuck on alexa and yuck on wifi cloud switches

past saffron
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i agree, this is why they are on a special subnet 😄

winged knoll
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A lot of "works with Alexa" tends to be cloud centric crap that won't play with HA

cold moon
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zwave was mature 10 years ago

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it's been mature a long time lol

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however in the state we currently use it at here it's way better

past saffron
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well, maybe the protocol, but getting devices and other things work all connect and work with apps and stuff, i dont think so

cold moon
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well that's where home assistant comes in

winged knoll
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Z-Wave stuff all works together fine.

cold moon
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zwave isnt magically gonna work with homekit

winged knoll
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Zigbee stuff .... not so much

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But as SHS said, HA is your glue

past saffron
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how does HA allow me to control devices when outsdie the home?

cold moon
past saffron
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simple port forwarding?

winged knoll
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Yes

cold moon
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tldr companies are putting out shit firmware for zwave devices being super chatty fucking up the mesh

winged knoll
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Or the cloud service you can pay for

winged knoll
cold moon
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or free mitm service like cloudflare

cold moon
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zooz, inovelli, aeotec

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altho you will laugh at this..

winged knoll
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Yeah, no Tuya, no older Osram, and no Sonoff 😛

cold moon
past saffron
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ok, so my first goal is to simply be able to get smart plugs to turn on/off based on temp readings from two sensors

cold moon
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instead of a direct connection from 1 back to the star

past saffron
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IF Sensor1.Value > Sensor2.Value THEN turn on plug 1

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something lke that

cold moon
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al calzone said controller routing was a black box basically

past saffron
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i have two third reality temp sensors, zigbee

winged knoll
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That's all easy, if you get both into HA

past saffron
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i also have the third reality zigbee hub, and you are telling me that is trash now, so it's gone

cold moon
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yep

past saffron
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i'll get the lenovo m910q ordered

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and get HAOS on it

cold moon
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after updating the bios*

past saffron
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then I'll get a zigbee coordinator

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and somehow connect that to the lenovo m910q

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and then i can start some magic

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right?

cold moon
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it'll be integrated via either ZHA or z2m with home assistant OS

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i'd suggest z2m

past saffron
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what is that? some protocol?

winged knoll
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Zigbee2MQTT

outer knotBOT
cold moon
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you'll run it as an "addon" in home assistant OS

past saffron
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so the coordinattor is not wired to the lenovo m910q

cold moon
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addons are docker containers that "add" additional functionality

cold moon
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otherwise usb coordinators are directly connected

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or using something like socat to enable connectivity over lan (advanced and not suggested unless required)

past saffron
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ok, i see

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if i use PoE, will it let me select a VLAN?

winged knoll
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Well, the coordinator probably won't, handle it at the switch if it doesn't

cold moon
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ya the PoE coordinator is just gonna be like a tiny microcontroller

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nothing wrong with a usb coordinator if your home assistant install is gonna be centrally located

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or if you just dont want PoE

past saffron
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it's a big house, so i dont think one will cover it, if mesh does not work

cold moon
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you'll just want to use a usb extender to move the coordinator away from likely interference

cold moon
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less hops = faster and just generally better

past saffron
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i see

cold moon
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30 second video showing interference^

winged knoll
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The mesh will work, even if you're in a McMansion 😛

civic kraken
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if your server is already pretty central then the usb stick will be fine

past saffron
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well, i've got APs and a ton of wireless shit, i know for a fact that there is plently of interference in my house

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i've got 433mhz stuff with my broadlink device

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weather station radios

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GMRS base station

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lol

cold moon
past saffron
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i see

cold moon
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of course 2.4ghz interference will hinder everything if it's overlapping but ultimately we need to limit interference right where the coordinator starts

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like that^

past saffron
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well, i can mix USB + PoE, yea?

for example, could I get a USB coorinator now, to make things simple, then when I expand, get some PoE ones to add to the mix

cold moon
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as a reminder, you only have one coordinator

past saffron
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oh, the others are routers

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ok ok

cold moon
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and the mains powered devices you will be buying are repeaters

past saffron
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ok gotcha

cold moon
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but yes you could technically get PoE repeaters if you were so inclined

past saffron
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so USB seems the way to go if I only get one, as the "Central" location in the house is where the lenovo m910q would be at anyways

cold moon
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sure

outer knotBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

cold moon
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that's what i'm currently using but i have a tube's PoE one arriving today lol

winged knoll
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Don't buy the Sonoff P though... any other recommended one is fine

cold moon
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i've had good luck with mine :/

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only a handful of people have had that nvram corruption issue

winged knoll
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More have had issues where it locks up under load

cold moon
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i see

past saffron
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ok cool

cold moon
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i'm going to start fresh moving over today i think

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cuz i need to change my network key, pan id, and ext pan id

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i think i just have to literally do one at a time 😦

winged knoll
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Nah, you can do it all in one

cold moon
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orly

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i mean move devices over one at a time

winged knoll
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You'll be re-pairing everything anyway

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Well, yeah, that bit, not the changing

cold moon
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ye

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sadcat

winged knoll
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I've done it before, it's not that bad IMO

cold moon
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i was thinking about deleting one device at a time (i have 90% hue bulbs) and then joining so i can copy/paste the names

past saffron
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so, if i cant use WIFI devices (the cloud ones, and that's ok, i dont like shit phoning home) - what are some good BRANDS to get?

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third reality? there supported pointined me to HA since Alexa sucks 😄

cold moon
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but the issue is if i start close to the coordinator and move outwards eventually my old mesh wont be able to talk to the bulbs further away with no more routers inbetween

winged knoll
cold moon
winged knoll
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Really depends on what you want to buy

cold moon
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ye

past saffron
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how about light switches?

winged knoll
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Country?

past saffron
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US

winged knoll
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Surprise 😛

cold moon
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for usa i'd only buy inovelli blues but they're literally $50 each and backordered

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if you only want smart switches not smart bulbs then i'd go zwave instead

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zwave has a better light switch selection. zigbee has a better everything else selection and usually cheaper

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you can also run both meshes but mixing zigbee light bulbs and zwave switches means your switches dont do anything if hass is down

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so usually people do either or, or dont mix them like that, or do knowing the downsides

past saffron
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ok

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interesting

cold moon
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I run both

past saffron
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if hass?

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what is HASS?

cold moon
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Hass means home assistant

past saffron
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ok, but i was under the impression if HA is down... nothign work?

cold moon
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If you use a smart switch with a dumb bulb it’s still gonna kill power to it or turn on

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If you use a smart switch with a smart bulb and home assistant is controlling the bulb after seeing a button press on a switch, it won’t work if hass is down

past saffron
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i see, but i could still control the switch physically, yes?

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even if HA is down?

cold moon
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That’s what I just said

civic kraken
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Why would HA be down? 🤔

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I would start by trying to mitigate the chances of that happening first. I haven't had more than a few minutes of downtime during updates for years

cold moon
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It’s very stable yep

past saffron
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i dont want smart bulbs

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we have crazy lighting here with fixtures that have like 10 bulbs on them

cold moon
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Be a lot cooler if you did

past saffron
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it would be crazy expensive

cold moon
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Yea

past saffron
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i would need like 100 smart bulbs

cold moon
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Zwave Smart dimmers are probably your best option then

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Or inovelli blues if you have money

past saffron
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what about matter?

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should i be investing in zwave if matter is coming along?

winged knoll
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🤣

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Sure... in a couple of years, once it matures

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Matter is still very much in its infancy. Nowhere near mature, stable, and fully featured.

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Hell, there's already issues with people doing their own extensions since the official spec is so limited

lusty arrow
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Hi, i'm trying to check which zigbee plugs to buy.
i see 2 models :

  • NOUS A1Z (small, 16A, power consumption)
  • Aqara Smart plug SP-EUC01 (a little bigger, 10A only, power consumption, but with a t° sensor included....)
winged knoll
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The temperature sensor is useless for room temperature

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Any mains powered device with an internal sensor is just telling you the temperature of the device itself, which will be hotter than the room

lusty arrow
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ha ok thx.. like the Hue motion sensor ?

winged knoll
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That's battery powered

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Battery != mains 😛

lusty arrow
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i found a tester saying that Nous A1Z is less powerfull in communication ? is it real and boring or not ?
(i would Nous, because supported at lower temp, and want to put one in the garage

winged knoll
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I'd also recommend looking at Innr

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The SP120 does power monitoring, the SP220 doesn't, but has power on behavour options

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In general though, #zigbee-archived can better advise you on Zigbee hardware... at least if you remember to mention the country you're in

olive helm
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Sometimes when i use it in HA then it seems like its loosing connection

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2023-08-04 19:36:21.392 ERROR (bellows.thread_0) [bellows.uart] Lost serial connection: SerialException('device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)')
2023-08-04 19:36:21.394 ERROR (MainThread) [bellows.ezsp] NCP entered failed state. Requesting APP controller restart
2023-08-04 19:36:21.397 WARNING (MainThread) [bellows.thread] Attempted to use a closed event loop
2023-08-04 19:36:24.395 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.sms] Error fetching Device signal state data: Error communicating with device: ERR_DEVICEWRITEERROR
2023-08-04 19:36:24.482 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.sms] Error fetching Device network state data: Error communicating with device: ERR_DEVICEWRITEERROR

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Can someone translate this to what happenig

drifting ember
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what is it plugged into?

olive helm
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my Intel I5 nuc there is runnin HASS Generic x86-64, its only running Home assistant directly

cold moon
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nope

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or ecobee's built in homekit support?

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then no apple device needed

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using the link i shared above

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uses homekit over wifi with hass creating a "bridge" that mimics native apple homekit

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that is what i have and use

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the different ecobee versions dont matter as far as this goes tho

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unless there's not support for some new features on the new ecobee versions with homekit-controller idk

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i wouldnt waste your money on their room sensors tho. buy zigbee or zwave ones and use hass to control it

thorny mantle
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I ended up going with one of the known supported Honeywell thermostats. Integration works great!

cold moon
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yea

olive helm
winged knoll
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You probably would be better askng in #integrations-archived - but Error communicating with device suggests a hardware related issue

golden thorn
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Had a chance to check the edit time yet?

chrome parrot
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Hi all, can anyone tell me which is pin one on the jumpers please?

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I am speaking about the HA Yellow bdw (forgot to highlight that piece of info)

gloomy spoke
terse pebble
torpid minnow
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Has anyone ever had any issues with smart plugs seemingly causing a minor surge spike when on a powerboard with other devices? Every time I turn my lamp off (plugged into the same power board as my computer), my speakers pop and my desktop monitor turns off temporarily.

jagged crypt
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sounds like a grounding issue

torpid minnow
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hmm, the plugs are tuya-cut and had functionality for energy monitoring (which I don't need so didn't bother configuring in esphome)-- could that cause an issue?

gray ember
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anyone here is using a Tasmota smart power plug?
I'm having issues getting it to connect to my router. I followed the guide on connecting my mobile phone to the device and select a 2.4Ghz band SSID name and put its password. I then get an error saying it failed to connect "check your password".

I know the password to be correct, yet I try it again and it works the 2nd time, but then it keeps dropping connection from the router. It appears there for about 6 seconds and it's gone, then it's back on again in my router's list of connected devices and then it's off again.
It's not able to maintain connection to the router. The device is 2 meters from the router.

rapid bough
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Hi all, currently have HA installed in docker on a Pi4B 4GB. I have a intel Nuc with a pentium N3700 processor and SSD doing nothing (it used to run plex embedded before they shelved it)... would HA run better on the NUC or stay where it is on the Pi4b?

NUC : https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/87740/intel-nuc-kit-nuc5ppyh.html

plain wharf
rapid bough
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just better performance... it currently isnt 'unstable'... just wondering if the NUC would be a bit 'snappier' then the Pi??

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on CPU compare alone the NUC has a better passmark... it also has intel quicksync for the HD video and can decode/encode 4k.... but its like 6 year older hardware...

plain wharf
drifting ember
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Let's not forget you won't be using an SD card in the NUC also

plain wharf
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I would give it a go if someone else don't see something I don't

rapid bough
# plain wharf Yeah, from this it would seem you will gain some

that was my thought process... currently the Pi4B had scrypted in anothe rcontainer and z-wace.js in another... i have a Razberry 7 Pro hat on it... so would just dedicate that pi to being a zwave hub and then move the scrypted and HA containers into the NUC

rapid bough
drifting ember
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🥲

rapid bough
# drifting ember 🥲

the NUC has an SSD in it... ive just installed ubuntu... now just the learning curve of transferring my install from one to the other...

drifting ember
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Well if you had haos it would just be a backup/restore

zealous dune
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Yes

rapid bough
drifting ember
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zealous dune
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If there's an addon

drifting ember
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dammit this internet is worth it already

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I beat blak to something

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🤪

zealous dune
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Hehe, you bought more internet

drifting ember
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I did I did

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the pigeons are now equipped with nitrous

rapid bough
drifting ember
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something to access the 'server' would be an integration

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this is an addon

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😉

rapid bough
flint shell
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As there is a smart assistant voice/text to speach (piper?), as a replacement to things like Alexa. that I only became aware of yesterday. Where would be the best place to look into the development, and possible hardware requirements (any chance an old echo dot could be converted to the system?)

drifting ember
brisk oar
drifting ember
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well you don't have to send a picture in the channel you can't send a picture you could send a link to the pic you already posted

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😉

brisk oar
drifting ember
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no problems at all

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you can also use an image sharing site as well

outer knotBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

unborn wraith
drifting ember
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celeron bad

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i3 good

unborn wraith
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Ok thanks

drifting ember
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celeron is the rpi of NUC's

unborn wraith
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So both are same?

drifting ember
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no I'm saying that a celeron in a NUC is slow

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but still probably faster than an rpi

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but if you're buying a NUC you'd be happier with an i3 or better

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considering buying one with no OS to bring the cost down a little

unborn wraith
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Ok

zealous dune
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An N100 is a good choice and it's latest gen

cold moon
drifting ember
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oh I don't do fleabay

rapid bough
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@drifting ember ive moved to HAOS and restored my backup, installed scrypted addon and done the backrestore for it too... but fomr some reason the cameras arent loading in homekit... would i need to re-add them all to homekit again?

drifting ember
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im not sure on that

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oh wait sorry

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whoops

sudden galleon
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does anyone have router suggestion for wifi mesh network for smart sensors? I think my ISP router is going "potato" by being overloaded with so many stuff I configured on it for home assistant

opal oriole
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Hi, I wanted to ask because I currently own Android, but I'll be switching to iOS in half a year. I have no experience with home assistant. If I now buy a device that is not homekit certified and I would like to control it via the home assistant application, for example from an iPhone, will I not have any complications?

zealous dune
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Only if the device can be integrated in HA without complications

cold moon
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Nothing needs to support HomeKit to be used on home assistant iOS app

fresh moat
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Has anyone here flashed a Sonoff iFan04 with tasmota or ESPHome without connecting it to the eWeLink server first? The tutorials all say you have to link it to the app to upgrade the firmware, or it won't work. However, those tutorials are many years old and I'm wondering if I already have an appropriate firmware level since I just acquired these devices in the past month.

opal oriole
cold moon
fresh moat
zealous dune
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Tutorials for ifan04?

fresh moat
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Sorry, it's still early here and I haven't finished my coffee, I figured it was relevant across Sonoff devices.

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Is it possible to flash the iFan04 OTA at all?

zealous dune
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No

foggy narwhal
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I followed https://www.home-assistant.io/voice_control/thirteen-usd-voice-remote/ and it mostly seems fine (I can control the light, HA registers when the button is pressed). But if I press the button (blue light goes on) no matter how much I shout in the mic, there is no blue light flashing. The voice pipeline is set explicitly. I am wondering if the problem might be a broken mic. The ESPHome log shows: [E][voice_assistant:231]: Error: speech-timeout - Timed out waiting for speech. Ideas anyone?

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fresh moat
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I had already installed the controller in the canopy as I was installing the ceiling fan assuming it would be OTA, so now I'll have to pull it out. I guess I should have RTFM'd.

devout parrot
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Yeah you've got to flash Sonoff devices via USB serial the first time.

fresh moat
gray ember
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anyone here is using a Tasmota smart power plug?
I'm having issues getting it to connect to my router. I followed the guide on connecting my mobile phone to the device and select a 2.4Ghz band SSID name and put its password. I then get an error saying it failed to connect "check your password".

I know the password to be correct, yet I try it again and it works the 2nd time, but then it keeps dropping connection from the router. It appears there for about 6 seconds and it's gone, then it's back on again in my router's list of connected devices and then it's off again.
It's not able to maintain connection to the router. The device is 2 meters from the router.

cold moon
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i use esphome flashed instead but they're probably very similar

outer knotBOT
winged knoll
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I'd recommend joining their Discord, but otherwise try in #diy-archived

cold moon
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is that ./message message:tasmota ?

winged knoll
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Yes

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Just lke the one for esphome

cold moon
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ye

foggy narwhal
versed timber
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so i am in the hunt for a smart switch and can do both lights and fan. Both need to dim. Everything in my home is lutron but i can't find one if they make it...

Any ideas?

versed timber
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well contol fan speed

cold moon
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That’s very different

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Both fan and controller have to support multiple speeds and have a dedicated traveler wire

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If this was available to you, you likely would already know this

tawny viper
versed timber
tawny viper
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I think some Z-wave things exist

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for example Inovelli has a 2 in 1 that they dont sell anymore. I've seen them go for 200-300 on ebay

static horizon
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Any suggestions for a cloud free outlet that is fine outdoors? I've got a covered porch with some lights but have gone through 2 tuya-type outlets already (not sure if due to weather or a power surge). The outlet box is covered but none of the others inside the house have died.

winged knoll
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And your country is ... ?

static horizon
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Sorry, US

rich venture
drifting ember
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im pretty sure that's against most electrical code

winged knoll
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Switched outlets are legal here 😛

drifting ember
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non-GFCI outlets outdoors, that legal?

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the point I was getting at was "call an electrician friend"

winged knoll
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Yeah, well, lots of folks here don't care about safe or legal

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Nothing wrong wth burning your house down

drifting ember
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touche

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there is for me, I cancelled my fire insurance

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and if I wanna get it back, Imma stick to the code 😉

rich venture
drifting ember
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I was refering to the 'junction box that leads outside'

rich venture
drifting ember
#

yes I assumed that's what you meant originally

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in my country that entire circuit would have to be GFCI protected because 'outside'

gray totem
#

Very very new to home automation. What should I look for in a smart lock?

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And any recommendations in general? I see schlage encode/encode + suggested alot, and aqara?

outer knotBOT
#

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
winged knoll
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Your country matters a lot

hexed galleon
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Any idea how to automate a HVAC

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damn provider wont answer

dreamy spear
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Sometimes there are replacement units you can buy

devout parrot
iron geyser
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I recently purchased a Broadlink RM4 Mini and I have a couple questions:

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  1. I read somewhere that you should NOT connect it to the iOS app, is that true?
fresh moat
iron geyser
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Thanks for getting back, I was able to figure a few things out.

  1. This is solved by 'unlocking' the RM4 in the iOS app
  2. Unfortunately, I was trying to use discrete power on / power off and my remote did not have those buttons. I was able to work around it by using my Harmony Remote (programmed to control my TV) which somehow knew the discrete Power On / Power Off!
fresh moat
#

@frank kayak I saw you posted in #general-archived late last year about successfully flashing a BK7231T with OpenBKT, where were the best instructions posted?

fresh moat
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@iron geyser There's a list of known codes here:

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/share-your-broadlink-ir-rf-codes/295055

fresh moat
maiden current
golden thorn
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There's 30$ Zigbee TRVs and wall thermostats available. You tend to get what you pay for, of course

outer knotBOT
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@zinc steeple I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

golden thorn
#

I'd suggest a (U)SFF or Mini PC where you're more flexible and can even virtualize HAOS if you so please. Most likely faster and cheaper as well

cold moon
# outer knot <@475154530313699358> I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 l...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/385670237223 link i've shared previously for an $80 mini pc "m910q" there are many variants on ebay for reasonable prices with 8gb ram or higher and 128gb ssd/nvme or bigger

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impact has suggested in the past to try not to get a T series CPU, so if you can find one without that, it would be preferrable (for power consumption iirc)

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@zinc steeple tagging since the bot absorbed your message

zinc steeple
cold moon
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hass is short for home assistant

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you meant haos or container

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it depends, i generally suggest haos unless you literally just prefer "total control" and like docker compose

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otherwise haos has everything you need and you can migrate later if you so choose

zinc steeple
cold moon
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basically people go the proxmox route if they want to virtualize haos or use home assistant docker container install, and also want to do other homelab stuff

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it's not necessary if you JUST want to use home assistant

zinc steeple
zinc steeple
golden thorn
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TLDR: I wouldn't really worry, you can skip this.
T models have a limited clock speed (and TDP) so they are slower but use less power at max (sustained?) utilization. Idle/low utilization is mostly the same.
Less power can make the difference between passively cooled or not. You just have to weight what's important.
They have their place but if you don't care much I'd chose the unrestricted one, the price is usually similar.
See here for an example: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Core-i5-6500T-vs-Intel-Core-i5-6500/2627vs2599.
It's not that much and doesn't seem to scale linearly.

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The benefit of proxmox is also easy troubleshooting (basically a build in monitor and keyboard), snapshots to test and then potentially revert things you otherwise would be too afraid to try. The ability to backup a whole machine and run other VMs/Containers and so on

zinc steeple
golden thorn
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It seems like I became a bit too biased from a older, lower end model. The difference for the 6500T isn't that bad

cold moon
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Proxmox adds very little additional overhead it’s just more to initially learn

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If you’re comfortable with that then it’s basically a better option even if you just follow that guide above and never use most proxmox features

golden thorn
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I don't use HAOS in production but if I were I'd utilize both backup mechanisms. Both have their uses

uncut badger
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the ability to roll back is really nice though.

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"I update to the latest release. it doesn't work right for something. I roll back to a snapshot I took just before updating, in seconds. I then wait for the bug to get fixed"

grizzled heron
#

Hey Folks,
I'm searching for a replacement for my old desktop Proxmox Host and came across this mini pc. I'm constsntly searching local computer stores etc but haven't yet found a suitable one. I would like to have a similar performance as the r5 and 16gb of ram which I know I probably would be able to find from used / refurbished thinclients locally. It also has 2 network ports and bluetooth. I honestly think it's kinda perfect... 15-25W TDP for the cpu.. What else do I want more? Do you think it's worth the price though?

gentle fossil
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that 512gb rom is kind of useless I guess

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I have no idea about the ryzen cpus but you might want to check and get one with integrated gpu

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oh those have graphics output so that should be no problem

grizzled heron
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Well, if I want to use it as a NAS, it's kinda perfect. Why would I need dedicated graphics? Not planning to use it as a media streaming service

gentle fossil
#

you can utilize a gpu with way more than just streaming

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if you really want to make a nas and have freedom to upgrade I reckon a proper desktop pc / server ?

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anyway you can probably find these for 100 bucks less without the windows license somewhere

grizzled heron
tacit burrow
#

If you don't need to make it a NAS, the used SFF boxes for $80-150 are kickass.

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Where are you? What is "locally"? SHS posts links to ebay all the time.

rare tulip
#

Hi. Building a new house. Ordered sky connect and Intel nuc.
Now looking for these 3 ZigBee devices from Europe market (preferably zha):

  1. Wall mounted thermostats for floor heating thermoregulators and few for bathroom floor heating (higher amperage)
  2. Normal wall switches (in-wall mounted)
  3. Dimerable wall switches (in-wall mounted)
    Any recommendations please?
sharp apex
#

You should define if you want your wall switches to go in-wall (below a classic switch plate) or "stick on remotes". For the latter I like the Ikea ones, for in wall ones I have no experience, because I use Wifi based Shelly in that role.

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But if you want to stick a switch somewhere with tape, I think the square Ikea ones are nice&cheap.

rare tulip
runic tinsel
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Just make sure you install deep boxes in the wall so that the Zigbee relays fit in there

rare tulip
runic tinsel
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But how else do you want a fall back in case of crash? You need to have a physical connection if you want to be able to use the system if HA is offline

rare tulip
runic tinsel
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I don’t think these do anything without the Zigbee coordinator — if HA is off they are powered but cannot communicate

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In principle it is possible to associate Zwave devices to communicate directly without the coordinator, so you can have zwave bulbs be turned on be a zwave switch if HA is down, but not with Zigbee

rare tulip
runic tinsel
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But then they power the bulbs off physically?

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Or do you mean they toggle Zigbee bulbs without switching power

runic tinsel
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“The wall switch needs to be connected to the wire. The most important function is to remotely and intelligently control the power of the connected circuit. To transform the ordinary electric light into a smart light, the wall switch is required; the wireless switch is a controller that can control wall switches and other devices via the app but cannot directly control non-smart lights independently”

rare tulip
winged knoll
devout parrot
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The physical switch part doesn't kill power, it toggles the relay, whether HA is up or down.

winged knoll
runic tinsel
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I have the Schneider dumb switches with Fibaro relays behind those which I want to be able to control from HA, but they all look the same in the house

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The disadvantage is that you can’t have bulbs which eg adapt colour temperature during the diurnal cycle

winged knoll
runic tinsel
#

Probably the right future solution is to have two lines going to each light - one for power and one for control from the switch, a bit like extractor fans are set up. But I doubt there will be a market for this for anyone to do bulbs like this

winged knoll
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The WarmGlow stuff works really well, and works with dumb dimmers too, but it was so damn niche - you had to know it existed since they never really pushed it

rare tulip
#

What about wall mounted thermostats some with lower amperage (for floor heating control) and a few for bathroom floor heating. Any recommendations in EU? Just found out "Bosch Smart Home Room Thermostat II" a bit pricey and I don't understand if they are suitable for bathroom floor heating

runic tinsel
rare tulip
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Looks nice, pitty, that's it's not zigbee

winged knoll
fast viper
#

Is the Coral (USB) TPU support by HA OS?

winged knoll
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Well, HAOS can't use it, but add-ons can

fast viper
#

ah got. so, set the hardware path in Frigate for example.

winged knoll
#

Yes

fast viper
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lovely... cheers

terse pebble
fast viper
terse pebble
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No, they aren't. But it only effects the Yellow. Your HP should be fine.

tender aurora
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i'm looking for a water level sensor that can be mounted outdoors and can withstand freezing temperatures.. it's for measuring the water level in a dam.. the top layer of the water freezes, so we need something that can handle that

devout parrot
#

You're going to want some kind of industrial grade stuff for that.

tender aurora
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no, i got it working now

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the trick was to turn this logic around.. when you define vlans you basically tell from where you want to "extract" the vlan tag.. so that had to be done on the lan0.. then i removed wlan0 from bridge0, and actually removed bridge0 altogether.. and placed management on lan0.. then i created a new bridge with lan0.x (where x is tag) and wlan0.. et voila - it worked!

tender aurora
#

vlan? or do you mean wlan?

cold moon
#

What you just replied with and the question you asked are wildly different

tender aurora
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protocol is not important.. i was more looking for something DIY.. but DYI would probably mean wifi.. and esphome

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haha!

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sorry! i was in the completely wrong channel 😄

tender aurora
#

that would ensure that the water is not frozen inside that tube

uncut badger
#

pressure sensor? so it's sitting at the bottom?

#
The Pi Hut

This industrial stainless steel submersible pressure level sensor adopts a high-performance pressure sensing chip, with advanced circuit processing and temperature compensation technology. The submersible pressure level sensor receives different pressures at different depths of liquid, which can be converted into corre

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(as long as it doesn't get buried in mud)

cold moon
#

Would an hvac float switch not work?

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With some logic to detect if it just doesn’t move assuming it froze?

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Or really just add more than one sensor type

tender aurora
#

what's an hvac float switch?

winged knoll
tender aurora
winged knoll
#

You'd need separate ones so that you can get multiple discontinuous readings

tender aurora
winged knoll
#

Well, not those, but something else

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Do one every X cm

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When it freezes you'll likely get the top sensor showing water, plus the ones in the water, and a gap between

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The pressure sensor would work too - you'd just need a longer cable 😛

tender aurora
zealous dune
#

How deep is it?

outer knotBOT
#

@tender aurora When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

tender aurora
#

gotcha 🙂

winged knoll
#

Clearly you isolate the electronics from water... that's pretty obvious, no?

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A suitable coating or container

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Waterproofing electronics is not new... it wasn't new decades ago

tender aurora
#

yeah, but isolating every 10 cm would be kind of cumbersome. but the exact water level is maybe not so important.. it's more important to detect that the water level doesn't get too low/high

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and maybe also something in between

uncut badger
#

avoiding false positives is, I suspect going to be your biggest problem 😦

winged knoll
#

To limit FPs you want multple sensors

tender aurora
#

yup, we're open for that

winged knoll
#

Pressure sensor and then multiple "level" sensors

tender aurora
#

i don't think we can use a pressure sensor, since this is not a tank..

cold moon
tender aurora
#

we can't be sure that we won't get mud on the bottom

zealous dune
tender aurora
#

but it looks interesting

zealous dune
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Probes at certain lengths

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Not sure how deep of a freeze you got

tender aurora
#

ok, so this needs to be mounted on top of the dam.. and then lowered into the water at different levels

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so mounted on a pole, basically?

uncut badger
#

pressure sensor is an option. It's based on atmospheric pressure, and the weight of the water (mostly the latter)

zealous dune
#

It also has relays for internal pump automations

tender aurora
#

Working temperature: -10℃ to 50℃

uncut badger
#

that is more of an issue in some places

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though if it's in water, that's less of a problem.

tender aurora
#

what is more of an issue?

uncut badger
#

the temperature. -10c isn't very low

tender aurora
# zealous dune It also has relays for internal pump automations

i'd say it looks interesting, but the problem is maybe that it's a bit overdesigned.. we don't need the relay part.. but just the sensors and probing looks interesting.. and i'm also worried about the freeze.. it'll probably just freeze the top layer.. as there will be water going out of the dam also during the winter.. so there will be some rotation and movement of the water base

tender aurora
tender aurora
drifting ember
drifting ember
#

this is one of the reasons I hate looking at things on Alix

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Ships to
Bahamas
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Select another product or address.

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🤦‍♂️

zealous dune
#

You can with some other effort

drifting ember
#

👀

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I like buying things to make my life easier that make my life harder

cold moon
#

it be like that

tender aurora
#

but what does this mean: Service Life: 1*10^8 Pressure Circulation (25℃) ?

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how long will that last for?

winged knoll
#

Until Tuesday

tender aurora
#

no wonder people start relying on chatgpt

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100.000.000 pressure circulations means nothing to me

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and also.. the water will be much colder than 25 degrees C, so will that prolong or short the service life

devout parrot
#

It should be rated to handle a specific temperature range, subjecting the device to prolonged periods outside the range it's designed for will shorten its lifespan.

tender aurora
#

Operating Temperature: -20℃-70℃

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that has to be 20 to -70, no?

devout parrot
#

No.

tacit burrow
#

(my sump is not as deep, but..) I just use a pump with a built-in float sensor/activator, then monitor the power usage of the pump.

drifting ember
#

cistern is usually filled by rain water but in the event of low rain, the other pump will pull from the well

quick smelt
#

How important is it to run HA on SSD instead of HDD?

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I see the post that RPi 4 with 2GB of RAM should be enought, but you need to use SSD

cold moon
#

Very important lol

gentle fossil
#

depending on your psu it might not matter, hdds will need more power

cold moon
#

Why do you hate him?

gentle fossil
#

I don't hate my man

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yeah it might load slow but thats it

cold moon
#

That’s what I look for in an OS - slow loading

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Means it’s thinking real gud

gentle fossil
#

there are people out there who only want to control a single crap hue bulb

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it doesn't matter if you run on hdd or ssd in these cases

cold moon
#

It matters to me

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My soul needs them to be fast

devout parrot
#

Gotta go fast

tender aurora
tender aurora
terse pebble
uncut badger
sturdy sparrow
#

anyone know how to put an esp32 into boot without the boot button?

winged knoll
sturdy sparrow
#

thank you will ask there

sly owl
#

I have an Xiaomi hub plugged into the wall but only use its RGB LED to notify about various stuff. It's WiFi and requires an integration with HA to work obviously so I want to remove it completely if I can replace it with something else. Anyone knows of a Zigbee RBG light that goes directly into a power socket I can use for notifications?

crude flax
#

Have anyone a right way to migrate SkyConnect from ZHA. HAos is on a Proxmox VM

devout parrot
crude flax
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Oh sorry. I have an conbee II (zha) and will migrate this to SkyConnect

winged knoll
crude flax
#

I chose hardware because it is also about the proxmox server running HA. This could also be a problem

crude flax
winged knoll
#

Not really

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That's just hardware passthrough

crude flax
#

yes i think too

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but a error stop migration

winged knoll
#

If you didn't then you need to do that

magic raptor
#

Hello everyone, I hope you are well.
I am writing because I would like to clarify some doubts about the hardware to use. We have a large house and we want to make it "smart" compatible with home assistant, adding door sensors, window sensors, smart light switches and maybe some curtain motors. We tried to see how to do it with the zigbee ecosystem, however we saw that it was a bit expensive, not all devices are compatible and the ones that are compatible are not as cheap as we thought.

I would like to ask if there is any recommended kit or setup for the zigbee ecosystem (apart from the products that can be found at zigbee.blakadder.com) or should I resign myself and opt for wifi devices that are cheaper and connect them to the Home Asssistant.

¡Thank you in advance!

cold moon
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you dont need to buy proprietary hubs or anything even if it says so on the box

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you also have the ability to use home assistant as the "brains" and it can take a zigbee light switch and have that control a wifi curtain, or zwave, or whatever.

cold moon
#

as far as which devices to buy and from which manufacturers, that depends on what kind of devices specifically you are looking for

languid sparrow
#

Hello I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask this. I'm having issues setting up the keyboard remote in Home assistant OS. I'm able to succesfully pair the keyboard using bluetoothctl but it doesn't seem to register any keypresses at all is anyone familiar with this ?

drifting ember
#

Where are you trying to see the key presses?

languid sparrow
#

I tried running both showkey and evtest. The last one does say operation not permitted I have a feeling that is part of the issue

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also another thing is that the device only shows when doing keypresses it shows as /dev/input/event0 and dissappears a few seconds after pressing the key but I'm unable to even change any permissions on it

twilit relic
#

crazy question - is there a smart tachometer (to use on a spinning attic turbine) i could use?

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i want to know if and how fast it's spinning

rare tulip
#

Which ZigBee light switches are better?
Normal dumb switch+something like z mini
Full standalone in wall ZigBee switch
And I have neutral. Should I search only for those with neutral?

devout parrot
#

If you have neutral use it. What country are you in?

hexed galleon
#

What's the difference in function between a switch that uses neutral and not

terse pebble
#

Some non-neutral devices need a minimum load to be able to "fake" a neutral.

winged knoll
#

Also Zigbee and Z-Wave switches that are no-neutral tend to be end devices

devout parrot
#

Most no neutral switches also don't support "smart bulb mode", where the physical switch can be decoupled from the relay so whatever the switch controls always stays powered.

ember lagoon
#

Did anyone have luck with Coral AI USB stick and HA yellow board?🙂

rare tulip
# devout parrot If you have neutral use it. What country are you in?

Lithuania.
I also found some hybrid ZigBee switches which could work without neutral, but have a neutral port and can work with neutral. Wonder if they switch between end device and router when neutral is missing/present.
And yet another puzzle is three way switches. Ready made in wall ZigBee switches should support that but what about behind dummy switch relays? Do they support various three way switches?

terse pebble
manic rock
#

Anyone here have any experience with a Conbee II Zigbee stick that keeps dismounting from a VM, needing is to be reselected once a week or so.

runic tinsel
tepid heart
drifting grove
#

Home Assistant Green

#

what is this?

shell gorge
drifting grove
#

i think he is taking the piss lmao

twilit relic
fossil linden
#

I recently ordered an nRF52840 dongle to use for thread and bluetooth. However i cantr figure out how to use its bluetooth capabilities. can someone help me?

tepid heart
twilit relic
#

Ah. So I need additional hardware. I’m sure I can find a guide out there. Thanks!

pallid flint
#

I am looking for a way to monitor my dryer. on/off stuff. i have tried the Aqara vibration sensor but it is not sensitive enough even after i turn the sensitivity all the way up. is there a better way to do this? i was able to monitor my washer with a power plug but i dont think that will be an option with the higher voltage...

glacial oracle
#

Why not

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Smart plugs exist in a variety of power ranges

zealous dune
#

there are higher voltage power monitors

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usually clamp style

glacial oracle
#

Realistically if you use a newer dryer, it's not that much power draw either

#

Unless it's industrial gear, it should be well within a reasonable rating

wild atlas
#

I had considered adding a temperature sensor to the exhaust of the dryer, since that should SPIKE when it's turned on

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I know there are no heat modes, but it'll at least cover the 90% case

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Mostly wasn't sure about hooking up a smart plug to 240v/20amp circuit

glacial oracle
#

Well you would buy one rated for 240v/20A

zealous dune
#

thats a beast of a dryer

wild atlas
#

Doing a home power monitoring system from the breaker panel would cover it too and avoid the pitfalls of doing it inline

glacial oracle
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Shelly sells a 240/16 one (plug)

wild atlas
zealous dune
#

ah, 'murican dryers

glacial oracle
#

Why are they so power hungry tho

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Like mine peaks at 600w

zealous dune
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cause murica

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mine is also around 800W

terse pebble
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0W

zealous dune
#

funnily enough its power monitored by a US Sonoff plug repurposed 😄

wild atlas
#

No idea what it actually peaks at, just know at what everything is rated for upstream

glacial oracle
#

It should be specified either on the device or in the manual

glacial oracle
#

Murcaaaa

wild atlas
#

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE HEAT

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but anyway, clamp style energy monitoring is perfect for it

glacial oracle
#

Yea at 4kw that seems mandatory

wild atlas
#

Even speed queen dryers are 4kw, and those are quality units

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(ge is generally the cheap stuff)

rich venture
wild atlas
solar nimbus
#

Hi all, anyone had with any success with any AliExpress EV chargers and HA. Any recommendations? I know there’s OpenEVSE, however with exchange rates and shipping its no cheaper that some chargers here in Australia

drifting ember
#

anyone know of any smart door locks (not deadbolts) with a handle/knob and keypad for interior doors?

wild atlas
#

I have a kwickset zwave door handle/keypad/lock, though I'm not sure what model, I have to look it up later

drifting ember
#

is it zwave or wifi?

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and is it a deadbolt ? cuz all the kwikset's I've been seeing are either lever/no zwave or lever/deadbolt only

wild atlas
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It's zwave, I have it setup through zwavejs ui, and I think it's supported by the hacs key master integration too, but I haven't tried that

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I think it's a zwave deadbolt backing a keypad/handle

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So a modkit over another electronic lock

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It was installed by the builder though, so it's at least kinda official

drifting ember
#

lol I need 3 that aren't deadbolts for my office doors

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ideally I'd need 4 but I'mma start with 3, as the other door doesn't exist yet (but will soon)

wild atlas
#

Interior door?

drifting ember
#

well these 3 are yes

wild atlas
#

Ah yeah, I missed that, mine is an exterior door lock, so not the right fit, sorry

drifting ember
#

well that's ok because I forgot to say

drifting ember
#

relax I already edited the post, smartie

serene edge
#

hey is a intel nuc with 4GB memory and 64GB Storage enough for HomeAssistant?

zealous dune
#

likely unless you go crazy with addons

drifting ember
serene edge
#

like a smart home with lights smart heating smart plugs led stripes eps´s sensors cameras etc

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i ask for a friend

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my homeassistant is using 1.7gb and i think the from my friend will have the same amount of addones or so?

drifting ember
#

well there's one thing there that's gonna need more space, and that's cameras

drifting ember
serene edge
cold moon
#

That doesn’t make sense

drifting ember
#

I mean storage

serene edge
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for saving the camery storage right?

drifting ember
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yes, some folks save it to a network share also

serene edge
drifting ember
#

well it depends on what cameras and how you integrate them but typically yes people mount it in HA

rapid frost
#

Any LED strip recommendations want to put some up behind a shelf, im fine DIY or set up whatever :>

clever hare
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I have 3 Lepro/Lampux/LightingEver (don't know what's up with the names but they are all the same thing). Fairly basic, 1 RGB and 2 RGBW, but never researched if they can/need to be flashed to work with WLED, I just use them as they are

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If you don't need to bend them/make corners, I'd go with a waterproof one as they are easier to clean occasionally

wild atlas
gray totem
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I was wondering if anyone had some doorbell cam suggestions?

hexed galleon
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should I use Shelly BETA version? for 3EM Pro

drifting ember
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YOLO

hexed galleon
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Yes yolo

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I installed it

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Fucking Great

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Gave me the opportunity to reverse CT measurements

ionic olive
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hmm.. i have a weird problem with tradfri bulbs.. im trying to add 4 gu10 bulbs at once

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and they get added.. but sometimes they detect with a configuration tab which allows you to set on level and startup behaviour.. and if that happens, then the default colours are missing the white setting

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its a minor thing but its annoying

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it means i cant set the group to white

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so i guess i either want all of them to have the configuration tab .. or none of them 🤔

drifting ember
chilly moth
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Hi, can I use a webbrowser on a HA Pi4 on a local display? I would like to use it for a simple display and switch function. So far the display I have is useless...

midnight ibex
dreamy spear
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the homey pro has a lot of similarties with the yellow

midnight ibex
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circle is not a good footprint for anything. exept for mug 😄
missing m.2 port if I am correct, or additonal usb.
Doest have POE or even ethernet
I am not sure how does it similar 🙂

winged knoll
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Also good for cookies

kindred pelican
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generally, condensate pumps arent controlled by the thermostat, right? seems like mine stopped working at some point after switching to ecobee thermostat (a few weeks ago) but im not sure if thats just a coincidence or if the ecobee isnt doing something.

rich venture
kindred pelican
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as in, external from the furnace

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i dont see where a float switch would be.

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that yellow wire goes into the furnace, it seems.

rich venture
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In that red container

devout parrot
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Yeah you need to call your HVAC guy

kindred pelican
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yeah i am doing so right now, matter of fact

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i switched back to original thermostat just to be sure it wasnt ecobee missing something

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it still isnt running

drifting ember
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thermostats usually have 0 control over external pumps

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and 85% of the units here don't even have pumps

cold moon
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The float switch would be installed in the plugged spot where the red twist thing is screwed in next to the drain pipe

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But I think they’re built into those pumps too

drifting ember
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mostly they are built into the pumps

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because those pumps can live very far away from the units

drifting ember
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wait I zoomed it

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it is a CP-22 but looks like a clone

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they have a float that shrivels up in it apparently

kindred pelican
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thanks everyone. maintenance got here and he does need to fix the pipe itself. the pump seems to work fine when he pulled the pvc back it triggered the pump to run.

drifting ember
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well that's weird, but I guess entirely possible

kindred pelican
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i just am cynical. the place told me i am "responsible for any damage caused by replacing the thermostat" and even though i expected that it was completely unrelated, i expect to be blamed. make sense?

drifting ember
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well a physical pipe issue could hardly be caused by replacing a Tstat

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but I see your point

kindred pelican
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-install smart thermostat to save money
-pay repair bills instead

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haha

kindred pelican
drifting ember
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yes that's like me, save money on mechanic work by doing it myself, but not having time to do it, so still have no car

kindred pelican
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lol

drifting ember
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at least now I know I gotta rebuild my motor

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so gotta pull the engine and set it up in the dining room

kindred pelican
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😂

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yup just tightened the pipe and tested the pump, all is well

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no damage no mold

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not caused by thermostat obv

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yay

cold moon
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Cool

drifting ember
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yeah that pumps only interaction would be to shut it off in case of a flood

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other than its job is to pump water

sterile coyote
devout parrot
sterile coyote
devout parrot
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If you look at the specs for any SDR dongle, it will tell you what range of frequencies it supports. Any of the hardware listed on that page will both support your frequency and work with the rtl_433 software that you'll use to actually interpret the signals.

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You'll also want to be sure the weather station you're looking at is one that's supported by rtl_433.

sterile coyote
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Ah ok, makes sense, thanks!

south cairn
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Recommendations for a smart switch? I intend to use it as a master on/off for all the things when I leave and come back. I am in the US. Only have wifi set up right now.

outer knotBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
winged knoll
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TBH it sounds more like a remote you're after, not an actual switch since you're not going to be controlling power

south cairn
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I intend for the switch will toggle power on/off to lights, speakers, fans, and other stuff like that.

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Some of the devices will be DC (this is in an RV).

winged knoll
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Well, HA will do that, unless you're planning on wiring the switch to those

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And no switch will do both AC and DC

south cairn
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I do want HA to handle the switching. I think you are saying I need two things: a remote and smart switches to toggle based on the remote.

winged knoll
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Yes

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Smart switches for each thing you want to control power to (or smart modules), and then a button for HA

south cairn
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So I will start by installing a button (DC-powered, ideally 12V) and one 12V smart switch.

winged knoll
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Bluetooth may work for the button

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I'm normally a Zigbee fan, and this may make sense here since it's generally lower power draw than WiFi

cold moon
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Idk he’s in an RV so mains power probably isn’t best over some 12v options

winged knoll
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There's DC Zigbee options, just not as many as mains

south cairn
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so.. these are my button options and to find the 12V ones I need to look them one by one.

Home Assistant

List of the built-in integrations of Home Assistant.

winged knoll
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There's also stuff that's not a button, Zigbee and Bluetooth "buttons" may not be button entities

south cairn
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but the integrations under "remotes" don't seem like what I am looking for either; I see a lot of talk about IR

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Maybe there is a better place to find hardware organized by physical form factor.

winged knoll
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Sadly no, not really

prime quartz
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Hi all, I am struggling to get a LD2410B sensor hooked up to my D1 mini v4 with UART. I am able to read all the data through the app via bluetooth. But the data pulling into HA through ESPHome all says unknown. And ESP local web server that it hosts all reads the states as NA / Off. I have tried a bunch of different recommended fixes here: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/ld2410-esphome-tips/477058/285, but nothing has worked. I added a couple images of what I have going on. Any advice is appreciated!

jolly jasper
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Are there any Smart Power Strips similar to function/price as the kasa HS300 but in black? It seems most of the smart strips are white or only have 3 plugs :/

jolly jasper
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Wifi/Zigbee/Z-Wave are all okay too if you have any recs

twilit relic
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it’s an old Maytag

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Sorry, 3,000W

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I use a Sense breaker install to read that

silent sentinel
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Need some advice on a dumb dehumidifier, not looking for anything too expensive but googling for one that can guarantee powering on when the power switch is turned on hasn't turned up with much. Anyone know a make/model dehumifier that powers back on when a smart plug is switched on?

sly owl
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I have an Xiaomi hub plugged into the wall but only use its RGB LED to notify about various stuff. It's WiFi and requires an integration with HA to work obviously so I want to remove it completely if I can replace it with something else. Anyone knows of a Zigbee RBG light that goes directly into a power socket I can use for notifications?

drifting ember
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you could always use this style bulb in a cheap night light https://www.amazon.com/Sengled-Required-SmartThings-Control-Candelabra/dp/B08NXGGRYD

sly owl
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Was hoping for something cooler 🙂

drifting ember
drifting ember
snow ingot
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any recommendations for a zigbee hardware button similar to the hue dimmer switch? (wireless, no proprietary hub)

edgy parcel
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Is there a place to look for hardware suggestions for India?

drifting ember
devout parrot
devout parrot
drifting grove
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Hello
I'm setting up a smart system for my company and plan to buy multiple access control devices. I want to control them all using Home Assistant or a similar open-source solution. Can Home Assistant handle this?

sly owl
runic tinsel
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Pulls around 300 W. You can set the target humidity, although it’s Not Very accurate. I had it connected to a smart plug and a hygrometer for a while after we got flooded by rhe neighbour and it worked pretty well

ebon tangle
ebon tangle
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Thanks!

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I wonder if its just a rebrand or something?

winged knoll
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One is Zigbee, the other is WiFi

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TL/DR: No

sly owl
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Do RGB light bulbs that can be dimmed from a z-wave dimmer exist? I would like to control brightness from the wall/HA like normal but also control color from HA.

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The dimmer being z-wave I guess is irrelevant but it's a Fibaro Dimmer 2.

chilly moth
burnt blaze
pallid prairie
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Can anyone help me with 2 zooz switch problems that are causing me grief.

  1. I have a zen71 switch, rated for fans upto 3a, for my bathroom exhaust fan. It is the only thing on the switch. It's a nutone .3a fan, one third. When I turn the breaker on the fan works. Turn the fan off it may go on off a few times but inevitably stops turning on. The blue light is on the switch, in HA toggling does nothing.

  2. I have a zen 77? Dimmer switch for my bathroom vanity. I have 2 of these, there's 2 vanities. Right works fine. Left won't turn off, when I installed it last week it worked fine for several days, then 2 days ago it won't turn off unless I pull the little air gap tag out. I pulled all of these switches out and confirmed there's no loose wires. I assume because they worked fine for days that the wiring is not the issue but really I'm at a loss now.

runic tinsel
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I recently inherited a few Tuya zigbee led controllers -- 6-pin RGB+CCT with a female 6-pin 14(?) mm socket -- looks like this https://www.houseiq.pl/environment/cache/images/500_500_productGfx_10254.jpg.
I am trying to connect it to a LED strip. The strip just has wires hanging off the connector end and i need to put them in some male 6-pin connector. I don't mind soldering them etc, but for the life of me I cannot find what these connectors are called. All I see are clips that connect LED strips to each other, not the other way.

Could anyone point me to a link of what I need to get? Thanks!

drifting ember
fringe crater
pallid prairie
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@fringe crater so I found this online

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I think that's one of my issues

hexed galleon
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I failed , flume sensor was not compatible with my water meter

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Any other idea what I can use

sand pier
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I’ve ordered a second hand Dell OptiPlex 3080, does anyone know if there’s anything I can check when it arrives to see how many hours its been run or anything like that?

winged knoll
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You can get the SMART data from the drive, as a hint

pure tapir
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Has anyone got a good watering system in place? I have HA running on Raspberry Pi4 and a ZigBee dongle attached. I'm wanting to get a Smart Water valve and a moisture sensor for my planter box (already got a regular digital timer on the sparkler system). I've been looking at the Rain Seer ZigBee controllers (Yellow) on AliExpress which look like will connect though Zigbee2MQTT, but now looking for a reliable moisture sensor which will connect easily to HA via either BT or ZigBee. I was looking at the Xiaomi Mi Flora sensors but can't seem to find whether they work with HA directly through ZigBee or BT. Anyone have a solution?

zealous dune
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They work through BT

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There's a Zigbee soil sensor from Tuya with mixed reviews, some say it's not accurate, some say it eats batteries and mine is working just fine

plush smelt
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hey guys, quick question for people who have a sensibo - if you have it installed next to your air con, can you use your dumb air con remote to change the settings on the air remote and have the new status sync to HA?

midnight ibex
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Hey there,
Can you recommend me a good "nervous system" for my HA setup 😄
I am doing my own wiring, and whole electricty, so this stage I can adapt every option.
I would like to measure and toggle every 230V outlet/devie. And I would like to use momentary switches for input.

winged knoll
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Zigbee?

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Smart sockets, smart switches

midnight ibex
# winged knoll Zigbee?

I would prefere some din rail solution. Like install them after the breaker. And use ethernet.

winged knoll
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Then you should have said that

drifting ember
#

Tink your mind reader on the fritz again ?

devout parrot
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Oh no the pro line do use Ethernet

devout quartz
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We are having a family room added to our house, and I want to make sure shelly is best option
thinking about a dimmer2 or wall dimmer, a Shelly Plus 2pm, and an Shelly Plus i4

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I have a mix of qubino and shelly now
my wife likes the regular paddle switches as the interface

crimson tulip
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Sounds like you've already made up your mind

devout quartz
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well the problem is
I never know what new thing might be out there
I'm fine with shelly stuff
but I'm fine with something else too

crimson tulip
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regardless what route you go, if your wife want's the paddle switches, then you're stuck with the "behind the outlet" stuff

devout quartz
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yeah, that seems immutable

crimson tulip
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Zigbee, Zwave, Matter, Wifi

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all viable options, you're using wifi atm

devout quartz
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the qubinos are zwave

quartz sun
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Hi, I am looking for some advice for a new user. At the spur of the moment I bought an IKEA Vindstyrka yesterday, which apparently is a Zigbee device. Right now, I am running Home Assistant as a VM image, but I wanted to installed it on my Synology NAS, but no luck there. So I am looking for a device that can both

  1. Allow Vindstyrka to connect to HA
  2. Run a Home Assistant server 24/7.
devout quartz
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but the shelly improved a bit, since the 2pm can do two switches

crimson tulip
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fibaro(sp?) has a double switch 2 for zwave

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many have 'doulbe switches'

winged knoll
crimson tulip
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many have double dimmers

quartz sun
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Many devices such as my Denon AVR shows up automatically in HA interface, but not the Vindstyrka, so I guess I need some kind of Zigbee device

winged knoll
devout quartz
crimson tulip
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warning: I do not like fibaro

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But I have them

devout quartz
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lol

crimson tulip
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zooz has a double relay

devout quartz
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okay, maybe thats a point for shelly as well
but I'm still gonna research em

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all this is great info

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thanks!

polar jay
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good afternoon, can anyone help me, my sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb dougle plus device is not recognized in the homeassistant

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how do i solve this problem?

gloomy spoke
brisk spade
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I like Shellies behind my wall switches because you can flash ESPHome to them and then you can toggle the relay as a fallback in case there is no connection with HA. In all other cases I let it send events to HA and do actions based on that

drifting ember
#

I think I need Shellies to replace my current 3 way switch in the hallway

weak gale
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What do you think?

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Is it good>

drifting ember
#

is it good for what?

winged knoll
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Not a good toaster

zealous dune
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It's terrible

weak gale
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Will it work?

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BAHAHHA

zealous dune
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Depends on the firmware

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And the buck converter

weak gale
zealous dune
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buck converter!

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The power supply

weak gale
#

Ahhhaamm... 😁😁😁

fresh moat
#

Anyone feel like the price of the Aqara/Xiaomi sensors has been creeping up and up lately? I just want some additional illuminance sensors and they're starting to approach the price of Hue motion sensors that also provide illuminance.

drifting ember
drifting ember
zealous dune
#

Inflation buddy

solid roost
#

Hi everyone, I am moving into a new home and that has down lights. I already use Hue GU10 bulbs and wont need to replace these. I am looking to have one accent light but unfortunately, the light I want has integreated LEDS.

My plan is to add a relay to the top of the bulb to eliminate the need to add another switch. Does any one have any reccomendations if that is a good way to go and what would just work with a hue system! Thank you in advance

keen ingot
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I just played an amazing game called "how many relays and Wagos will it take to make this device function the way I want it to"? 🙂

keen ingot
#

srsly

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It'll look better once it's in the wall. It's POC'd at the moment with a 120V suicide cable (chopped and stripped NEMA power supply) and a bunch of random 14 gauge wires

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TL;DR: LED-lit medicine cabinet with two separate lights on the top and bottom that are both controlled by one external wall switch that uses 0-10V dimming wires, but there's a separate (physical only) switch too, inside the cabinet, that is used to turn on/off the main (top) LED bar. I wanted to be able to control it all from a single Decora switch and create scenes that involved one or both lights at varying brightnesses. Never take no for an answer 🙂

drifting ember
#

but was it a question anyone asked ?

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other than you I mean

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😄

keen ingot
#

Maybe, maybe not. I mean, the bottom/back light is meant to be used as a night light. So it's perfect for automations with either sundown or light sensors. But not if it's also tied to a bright AF vanity light.

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Unless you physically open the cabinet and turn it off

drifting ember
#

the concept is nice, I look forward to seeing the wires cleaned up because right now it's giving me a headache

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and that's only because I'm a cable snob

keen ingot
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I promise I will follow up in a week or two once it's recessed in the wall and run with proper cables.

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I just wanted to make sure I could get the use cases covered and working with these two relays without killing myself or breaking the fixture. Hooray for multimeters.

wild atlas
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i always want to know how people manage to hide cables, i end up with either cables everywhere, or so much wall gore the WAF drops to zero

drifting ember
#

Steve I have never once had a WAF issue. my wiring is sound, and clean. However I also do not have a wife.

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I installed cable trays in my attic as well, and no wife goes in the attic

wild atlas
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is your house two stories? just curious how you run between them if you do

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although for a WLED crown moulding setup in the upstairs like i kinda want to do one day, attic wiring is a good idea...... now how will it handle 120F

drifting ember
drifting ember
#

im closing in the top of the closet to run some wires thru to my actual wiring closet

wild atlas
#

crafty hiding then

drifting ember
#

I do all my wiring in the winter time

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otherwise my attic is 140F

tawny viper
#

0-10v sucks. My entire office has it in first floor. Also at least you are using Wago connectors and not cheap knockoffs

tawny viper
drifting ember
#

yeah GAF turns into IDGAF real quick these days

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I currently have 3 ethernet cables running across my office, why do you ask, when I have 8 ports under the bench and 2 more to the side? because I can

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actually, being 100% truthful, it's because I need to move 2 of the ports from one patch panel to the other and I don't want to even open my attic

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I have a bunch of rewiring to do, but I have it all planned out... for October

tawny viper
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I finally terminated cat6a that has been run for 3 years. Cable was in the attic. Got three U6-LR now. I need to get the unifi poe that can take poe++ and output poe, but I'll give it another three years.

drifting ember
#

by then it will be outdated

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kidding

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I've installed cat6A that people STILL aren't using properly 4 years later

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I also hate to terminate cat7 and would prefer just to run fiber at that point anyway

tawny viper
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It was actually cat7. Which is why I never did it for 3 years. Lolllll

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There was no replacing it. It was ran with alot of work.

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I debated buying a coax to ethernet adapter instead. But that was too lazy even for me

drifting ember
#

🤮

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you sir got the first one in weeks

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well maybe a week

tawny viper
#

Hey, all good, all termated. Poe and 10gb on every floor.

drifting ember
#

noice.

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I just do 10G on my router fiber to my switch

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which is hilarious considering my internet is delivered by pigeons

tawny viper
#

My internet provider only terminates 5g as rj45

drifting ember
#

🤮

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they get one too

tawny viper
#

So I have an ethernet to sfp+

drifting ember
#

so bass-ackwards

tawny viper
#

On my unifi. But it's 150 a month for 5g symmetrical

drifting ember
#

lmfao

tawny viper
#

So I only can complain so much

drifting ember
#

bro I would literally injure someone for that

#

I was paying $186 for 240ish Mb/s

tawny viper
#

Buying the sfp + adapter was a sacrifice I was willing to make

drifting ember
#

bro I would have taught them to run fiber

tawny viper
#

They do

drifting ember
#

I'd have just run the fiber to their box and been like "haaaaay"

tawny viper
#

But it's all weird, and propertiary

drifting ember
#

"plug this in, I love you long time"

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I have fiber run from my closet to my property boundary WAITING on the day they deliver fiber to my area

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I still have a couple hundred feet on the spool too 'in case'

tawny viper
#

I have a couple hundred feet of cat7 lying around

drifting ember
#

same

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and a few thousand cat5e

tawny viper
#

I have a Long driveway

drifting ember
#

mine is 1300'

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at the other house

tawny viper
#

I want to wire poe all the way to mailbox

drifting ember
#

that's called solar sir