#installation-archived

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amber iron
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I feel like I have to handle hdds like a baby sometimes

radiant sundial
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lol

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you should see how amazon ships drives

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it's like in a plastic bag only at times...

amber iron
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Don't scare me...

grand pivot
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If it doesn't kill it, it makes it stronger...

humble mirage
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HDDs tend to have a gradual failure state, so you know they're going bad. SSDs have a tendency to either be fine, or not, and often with zero warning.

radiant sundial
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just add in SMART monitoring for HDDs and it should be good

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SSDs need trim / wearing levelling but for a relatively small drive usage I'd think they'll last pretty long

civic axle
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Whats the best way to migrate from home assistant blue to yellow? Backup/restore doesn’t work (add-ons don’t work). Also i want to use the built in zigbee instead of via usb. Of all things the most important thing I would like to keep is the energy history

grand pivot
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backup and restore is the way. reboot the device afterward

brittle sail
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It does work you prob never rebooted after the restore

civic axle
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Ahh

brittle sail
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Now why that isn’t default behavior of haos on its own idk

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We just don’t have the technology

civic axle
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Ill still have to repair all zigbee devices probably right

brittle sail
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No

high token
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we do have that technology

civic axle
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Even not when switching from usb dongle to the builtin?

brittle sail
grand pivot
civic axle
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Skyconnect

brittle sail
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Same chipset not sure the benefit of switching

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Pretty sure zha smoothly transitions tho

high token
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especially when you are talking ZHA to ZHA and same chipset

placid sage
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I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong but?

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I get this goofy error when trying to install Home Assistant Core to my Raspberry Pi 3B+

ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement homeassistant==2023.4.4
ERROR: No matching distribution found for homeassistant==2023.4.4

humble mirage
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You're using pip install...?

placid sage
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pip3 install homeassistant==2023.4.4

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yes

humble mirage
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Then... you didn't build the venv with Python 3.10

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Probably 3.9 or older

placid sage
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I have a clean install of Raspberry Pi OS Lite

humble mirage
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Right.... so... Python 3.9 or older

placid sage
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oh

humble mirage
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The docs are pretty clear you need 3.10

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You need to either build Python from source correctly, or just use Docker

placid sage
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oh

humble mirage
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Docker is going to be a lot easier

placid sage
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Didn't realize that was due to an outdated python version. I was trying to move from a Core based VM to a physical raspberry pi

humble mirage
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Repeat the process in December every year, going from 3.10 to 3.11 and so on

placid sage
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I have an alarmdecoder device connected to the pi and I also wanted to have apcups or nut running on the same pi

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I think my setup is overly complicated so I will try to simplify it

serene bridge
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anyone tried install on NanoPi R6C ?

agile summit
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Is anyone using a Docker on a NUC and using a ZigBee and a Zwave stick?

raven forge
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There's a big chance there are people doing that. Just ask your actual question

agile summit
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I am wondering if it was hard to configure docker + the two sticks to work together.

My current set up involves a RP3 with the Zwave/ZigBee stick giving data to HA on the NUC via MQTT statestream

raven forge
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Depends what you mean with together. You simply pass the device to your container. Nothing special about it

agile summit
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I've tried plugging the sticks into the NUC and have been able to get the ZigBee integration to work but Zwave is an issue

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When I try add the Zwave integration it asks for a url prefilled with ws://localhost:3000, not sure what to add here

raven forge
frail python
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Hello, I seem to keep getting these errors on my VirtualBox install every night. Could this be caused by the google drive backup and some services not getting turned back on after it creates the backup? Any help is appreciated, thanks. https://imgur.com/a/ASd8mPu

glass ruin
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hey guys

humble mirage
glass ruin
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thank you @humble mirage

humble mirage
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You'll need to build Python 3.10 from source and install it yourself, which requires many system libraries

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In December you'll need to repeat that for 3.11

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Next December 3.12

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And so on

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Don't do it... just use Docker 😉

glass ruin
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is there a way to install another version other than core ?

humble mirage
grand pivot
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We've been through this whole discussion already

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Looking for a different answer, I guess

glass ruin
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I havent been able to work on anything and work takes up 90 of my time

humble mirage
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Either use HAOS, or use Container. Don't use Core unless you're a *nix geek at home compiling software and troubleshooting compile issues.

glass ruin
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if i dont get my " home projects" done in my 3 days off it maybe months before i get back to the them as something always comes up

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i have a unraid server that already has a ton of tuff running on it

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i tried to add HA docker and one is a core install

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and the other available image is knackered

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I'm just confused as to why no legacy support as theres a ton of low power x86 devices that can run HAOS

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AND still run circles around a raspberrypi

humble mirage
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Because the line had to be drawn somewhere, and UEFI support was an easy one I suspect

glass ruin
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well.. I'm off for the next 3 days and I will spend some time and see what i can get accomplished

tawny veldt
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Installing on a RaspPi 4, connected by ethernet, homeassitant.local:8123 doesn't work. Neither does homeassistant:8123 nor the Pi's IP address.

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It is recognized as homeassistant on my network though

radiant sundial
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wdym recognized as home assistant?

tawny veldt
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Like on my routers Client list there is an object called "homeassistant"

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So the problem isn't not being connected properly or something

humble mirage
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Try port 4357 on the IP instead of 8123

tawny veldt
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I get to a page that says this:

Home Assistant observer
Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy

humble mirage
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Ok, that's good, it tells us that it's alive

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Try port 8123 again

tawny veldt
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"This site can’t be reached"

humble mirage
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Can you connect a monitor (and keyboard)?

tawny veldt
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Not at the moment, maybe tomorrow

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Oh wait no, don't have micro-HDMI cables

still schooner
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If you have one of those HD pocket cameras they used to sell, it might have a micro hdmi to full size hdmi adapter 😉

unreal rose
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Hello. I've recently installed HomeAssistant and when it scanned my network it discovered a device listed as a FireTV (Apple TV 3) How can I renne it to FireTV?

humble scaffoldBOT
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Devices

Open your Home Assistant instance and show your devices

humble mirage
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Find it there

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There's a ✏️ in the top right you can use to rename all the entities, or you can pick the entities and rename them individually

unreal rose
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Thank you. I'm trying to get the hang of this.

humble mirage
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It takes a while

still schooner
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Best advice, google anything you stuck with first, then come here to ask 😉

humble mirage
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Google it, double check the answers against current documentation, then come here to ask 😛

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There's so much outdated, or just plain wrong, advice out there

still schooner
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Downfall when things update regularly, that's where community wiki sites are helpful. The whole community contributes.

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Gonna embark on getting HA rolling in Docker in the next few days.

humble mirage
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Technically that exists on the forum, plus the official docs which anybody can submit an update to, but ... mostly people don't

unreal rose
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Thanks. I believe I am running in docker. I tied some of the info on the forum and just got confused like setting up Grocy. I did order a Zigbee dongle and need to get it setup as well

humble scaffoldBOT
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Repairs

Open your Home Assistant instance and show your repairs

humble mirage
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If you're unsure, go there and dotsvertical then System Info

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Installation Type tells you how you installed

unreal rose
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Yes I see there that it is showing Home Assistant Container installed in Docker

humble mirage
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You need to add some lines to your compose file

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(or flags to the run command, if you're barbaric)

unreal rose
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I'm already confused. I am doing docker run ... --device /dev/ttyUSB0:/dev/ttyUSB0 ... and it says docker: invalid reference format according to dmesg the Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus ius on USB 1-4 ifI am understanding it correctly

humble mirage
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Share the whole command line please, and the whole error

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Also, you should be passing through the /dev/serial/by-id/ path

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Also, also, you should be using a compose file 😉

unreal rose
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I found compose to be confusing but I'm thunbking of I am saying that now I am going to be getting in over my head

humble mirage
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If the compose file is confusing, you're going to hate HA ... given that both are all about YAML

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Maybe switch to using HomeAssistant OS instead though

unreal rose
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That may be a good option. I think I may nool into that before proceeding

unreal rose
humble scaffoldBOT
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@cobalt python I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
fringe moth
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got an existing docker install of HA , but some files in its dir are owned by root and some by myuser, can i just change HA's compose file to include ;

    environment:
      - PUID=1000
      - PGID=1000
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without any consequence to ha/db install ?

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ow best to just chown HA dir to myuser ?

raven forge
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Doesn't look like P*ID is used for the official image so that should do nothing. chowning stuff to your user shouldn't matter as the docker user is root but it's not very useful either. You can override the user, that might require some modifications though

fringe moth
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doing this because of permission issues editing ha files in vscode , so would be best to run both as root ?

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vscode run as 1st user

raven forge
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If I say it's the best way someone will stone me but it will probably fix your issue

humble mirage
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It's the simplest way

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I m hack I installed proxmox on the

fiery sorrel
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hello

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im trying to download homeassistant on my raspberry pi 3

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but when i flash the github link to a sd card using balena etcher, it gives me an error.

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anyone know how to fix?

humble mirage
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Without knowing the error.... shrug

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However, many people have more luck if they download and uncompress the image then flash it, rather than using the URL

fiery sorrel
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ok, thanks

fiery sorrel
humble mirage
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That's why #rules - which you supposedly read - talks about code share sites

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As you obviously didn't read anything there, please do so now

fiery sorrel
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i just joined :/

humble mirage
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Sure... and that's the perfect time to read the rules

silent swallow
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Has anyone here had problems migrating from docker to HAos? I'm worried about bringing my separate zwave and zigbee device over and having to setup all my devices again.

humble mirage
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There should be no problem

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As long as you're already using the /dev/serial/by-id paths anyway

silent swallow
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My plan is to run HA as a VM in proxmox. Is it as easy as getting the VM running, installing the zwave addon and then just copying my files into the directory?

humble mirage
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(and #zigbee-archived with the Zigbee part, but nothing should be required there)

smoky mauve
# fiery sorrel i just joined :/

You are supposed to read that before messaging random stuff in the server. No matter if you just joined or not, you did send a message. Oh well, welcome.

fiery sorrel
quick ocean
humble mirage
# fiery sorrel nobody told me

When you join, you're dropped into that channel, and it says right at the top

Please carefully read through these rules before engaging in conversation.

silent swallow
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@quick ocean I am building a proxmox server to run a bunch of virtual machines. So I think it may be easier for me to run it as its own VM as opposed to in a container. However I really do like docker, it worked great. Easy to backup data and easy to update containers. The learning curve was pretty steep for me not being that big on linux and such but worth the effort. I ran open media vault and used docker with that.

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If I am not mistaken haos actual is kinda a standalone system that uses docker containers and just manages it on its own.

quick ocean
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yes, I believe it is built on a linux with HA. To my understanding.

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I would just like to be able to run other things so therefore I'm going Docker

quick ocean
winged tangle
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Hi, does somebody has expirience with the pschmitt flic button repository? I added it to the Add-On repository but i cant find the integration

humble mirage
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Add-ons however aren't integrations

humble scaffoldBOT
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#integrations-archived integrate Home Assistant with devices or services, or provide functionality within Home Assistant.

#add-ons-archived provide additional software or services, which an integration could possibility integrate with. Add-ons are for Home Assistant OS and Supervised only, other install methods can install software other ways.

winged tangle
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i think i just mispronounce

humble mirage
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You'll find add-ons in the add-on UI, and integrations in the integration UI

winged tangle
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i asked in the add on channel

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thank you

hard venture
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Hi. I'm installing Home Assistant on a Raspberry Pi Zero W, using the HassOS RPi0 image. I have got to the stage where it says "Preparing Home Assistant (this can take up to 20 minutes)". I know that it can be slow on the Raspberry Pi Zero, so I left it running assuming that it would eventually get it done. It's now been almost seven hours. Should I keep waiting, or has something gone properly wrong? I have refreshed the page, just to check it wasn't just failing to reload.

humble mirage
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Keep waiting

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There's a reason that no new releases for that hardware have been made in a long time

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I've seen reports of it taking 24+ hours

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Oh, and you'll run out of RAM

hard venture
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What happens when it runs out of RAM?

humble mirage
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So, don't plan on doing much because the odds are the OOM killer will ruin your day

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Don't install any add-ons

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Be careful how many integrations you enable

hard venture
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I'm not going to install any add-ons. I basically JUST want to put EspHome on it, set up a few sensors, and then leave it.

humble mirage
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Well, don't install the ESPHome add-on

hard venture
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Oh. How do I set up sensors without the ESPHome add-on?

humble mirage
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The way everybody who doesn't use Home Assistant does

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ESPHome existed before HA was around

humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
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You could join their discord for further help with that

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Using HA on a Zero is going to be painful and frustrating though

brittle sail
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Well proof of concept isn’t even there with 7+ hour first setup lmao

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Just find some decent hardware to run it on and use the pi for some tiny project

humble mirage
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Wall art.... as in, stick it in a frame on the wall and call it art 😛

brittle sail
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Ya first gen zero are slow

humble mirage
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The second gen are faster... but no more RAM so they're still shit for HA

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TBH I'd hesitate to recommend a Pi3B for HA, 1 GB of RAM isn't really enough these days

brittle sail
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Even 2 is low for just a few addons

humble mirage
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I mean... these days most smart watches come with at least 1 GB of RAM

hard venture
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But I guess your (rather derisive) comments suggest that trying to run anything on the Zero is futile, which is basically why I was asking in the first place.

brittle sail
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They’re ok for random projects te but zero and hass don’t mix

humble mirage
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It's underpowered for HA

brittle sail
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Buy a mini pc or a used laptop for hass and bring your pi4 to work to play with

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Or reuse old work hardware

hard venture
brittle sail
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…

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It’s unsupported hardware and even if it wasn’t you’re wasting your time

hard venture
humble mirage
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We also don't have to help you if you ignore the advice

hard venture
humble mirage
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Well, you've spent more time going are you sure than anything else... which is offputting

shell wagon
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Hello Champs. Any chance of some help. I have just upgraded Home Assistant running on a Raspberry Pi4 to use an SSD (instead of an SD card). It all worked great, I just did a full back up and then used Raspberry Pi Imager to create the home assistant OS image and then restored my back up. However I can't remember my root username and password for SSHing into the server.
I thought given that I had used the imager it would be the default of pi and raspberry. But that doesn't work. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

brittle sail
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Buy a m910q or similar mini pc on eBay not another pi

hard venture
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Yeah, that's because I do want to know for sure, and it's useful to have more than one person's perspective. There might have been someone else on this forum with a different experience. But then Smart Home Sellout helpfully indicated that they thought I was wasting my time too.

humble mirage
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Ah... so the magic number is three

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Noted

brittle sail
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It’s common we have to clear up bad advice from forums and YouTubers

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Lots of bad advice out there especially on Reddit

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‘Omg bro buy govee they’re so gud’

shell wagon
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Any good advice on how I can solve my SSH issue?

humble mirage
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Lots of stuff that was true 5 years ago and isn't true now

humble mirage
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Until you install and configure the SSH add-on there's no SSH

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Lots of people just set up the add-on enough to use it in the sidebar and never actually set it up properly - I'd bet you're one

shell wagon
humble mirage
sterile plover
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Moved from #general-archived:
Does Home Assistant OS mount storage by UUID, or by device path? I want to migrate the data to a different sort of device, but to do that, I'll need to put the current NVMe in a USB enclosure.
Home Assistant OS also won't let me move the data from the 32GB NVME (Optane) back to the eMMC... it states that the target device must be larger than the source device.

If I do mount on HAOS, I see the /dev/nvme0n1p1 path, but that doesn't really tell me if there's some script that finds it by UUID first.

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Or does it do it by-label?

sterile plover
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I guess it's by label, because it worked just fine putting it in an enclosure for the sake of copying.

left tangle
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I just set up 2 Aqara motion sensors. I have a sonoff hub. They connected to the zigbee home automation add on. They showed detected as soon as I set them up but now they do not detect motion. Am I missing something?

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They are both showing different lux levels when they are right next to each other. It seems none of the data is updating since I set them up

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Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have spent hours trying to figure this out

copper steppe
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Are they showing movement in any other app? Some native aqara thing?

sterile plover
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I found Aqara (temperature) sensors really unreliable. There's also a more Zigbee-specific channel: #zigbee-archived

fossil veldt
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hello, I am doing a x86 install but I already have a HDD with a ubuntu running on it. The regular approach shows booting off of a usb and clicking try. My query is: is there a way I can skip the USB part and just boot from the ubuntu hdd, format it and install ha x86?

humble mirage
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No, because if you booted from it how will you format it?

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Boot from USB

fossil veldt
fossil veldt
random brook
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Greetings, I'm stuck at the core command line.
Home Assistant OS 9.5. 2023.4.4

These two web sites work fine, turning on and off things and playing music
http:// local :8123
http:// local :4357

But my rpi 4 with 128gb micro sd is stuck on the core screen waiting for the supervisor to startup and the CLI to be ready

Please tell me what have I done wrong and what's my next step?

wicked junco
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HA UI not accessible via homeassistant.local:8123 or IP

fossil veldt
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I just realised my antique mobo won't take uefi boot

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Any way to get around this for an x86 install?

humble mirage
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Do you want to use HAOS?

fossil veldt
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Yes 😃

brittle sail
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It’s probably not very efficient with power usage if it’s that old

humble mirage
fossil veldt
brittle sail
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If you’re trying to save money look into a thin client otherwise a mini pc

fossil veldt
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I just like bringing life to old junk. No other reason. I have another one. Gonna swap it

raven forge
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You could Install proxmox on it and virtualize HAOS. That should work even if the host doesn't support UEFI, no?

brittle sail
raven forge
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Just the usual. Official docs, youtube and google and reddit for specifics. LearnLinuxTV has a whole series for example

brittle sail
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I’m fine with learning as I go but I figure I’ll end up doing stuff wrong and have to redo a bunch correctly down the line

fossil veldt
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that's the reason Im going for generic install actually

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running out of ram constantly

brittle sail
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It’s not for hass

fossil veldt
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although admittedly im using virtualbox not proxmox so Idunno how that would behave

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oh very well then

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yeah for virtualization I heard QEMU is way more efficient than VirtualBox

umbral cove
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Hello, I posted my message in general but there is a lot of noise there actually and I'm not sure it was the best place to post it :

Hello all, some of us with alternative databases (mariadb, postgres) experienced ultra slow logbook and history after migrating to 2023.4. Is there anyone who has no problem with same configuration to help us here : https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/91514 ? We are looking for a structure dump to check if everything went well with our migrations.

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Thanks 🙂

worn hearth
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can i make my windows pc that i dont use and basically convert it into a home assistant OS? its an asus gaming pc that i think the bios is locked so idk how to go about doing this

fossil veldt
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how is the bios locked

humble mirage
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If it doesn't then still yes, but with a few more steps

worn hearth
grand pivot
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no relationship

fossil veldt
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I thought he meant like with a password :p

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yeah if its a gaming pc Im asuming uefi works

wary idol
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Hey all! I've looked around and this seems the best thread to put this in. I've got a little bit of a custom deployment for home assistant to restrict down access to my internal networks. To start i'm having some issues trying to get nginx proxy manager to grab a certificate via certbot/letsencrypt. I thought this might be related to the settings>system>network showing external access disabled. However under my config page the regular menu for configuring external access is missing. I tried updating the config with the base_url hoping this would resolve that issue. I have added the trusted proxies and told it to accept forwards. I can hit the URL via the nginx proxy from my internal network but external is still giving some issues. As for the custom setup I'm running home assistant OS on an ESXI deployment. Have it broken into 2 v-switches, one for internal home automation vlan and one for the dmz i have all of my port forwards on. I've gone into the home asisstant CLI and disabled the default gateway on the home automation vlan and isolated it at the layer 2. At the firewall level i've ran a destination translation to translate my access to home assistant to the public IP so my external domain name works the same as inside vs outside my home.

http:
  base_url: https://obfuscatedurl.com
  use_x_forwarded_for: true
  trusted_proxies:
    - 172.30.33.0/24
humble mirage
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HA's config has nothing to do with NPM - you can ignore everything in HA when troubleshooting

wary idol
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Also inside the container I was trying to run the certbot commands in a dry run and more verbose but still getting the inaccessible issue.

grand pivot
wary idol
grand pivot
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But you should fix it anyway

wary idol
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I've removed it and left just the necessary config for the proxy.

coral plank
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Hi everyone! Great to be here, Was hoping to get some assistance if possible. I'm installing a Docker Container in Ubuntu and I just can't seem to access port 8123 and I see the container running in Docker Desktop...any help will be greatly appreciated..I haven't even been able to access HA UI for the first time.

sterile plover
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If you really really want UEFI boot on an old machine, and you can't just get a thin client or such, there is one way to fake it: use the Clover EFI bootloader that's typically associated with Hackintosh. Put that on a small USB drive, and it should be able to chain to UEFI boot loaders.

low notch
copper steppe
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You probably haven’t mapped the port to the host

minor roost
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this question probably gets asked often, how do you get HAOS to search the network for new devices?

humble mirage
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And that's on an integration by integration basis

rugged osprey
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I created an Bootable USB stick with the home assistant OS 9.5. When I am booting from the stick, it get this message:

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Booting 'Slot A (OK=0. TRY=0)

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This is the second USB Stick I tried

raven forge
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And what's the issue?

rugged osprey
minor roost
rugged osprey
humble mirage
minor roost
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k

raven forge
rugged osprey
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I create it this morning with balenaEtcher

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The Intel NUC is just starting and booting the USB stick

raven forge
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Did it ever successfully boot?

rugged osprey
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The Intel NUC ?

raven forge
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The stick

rugged osprey
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I just found out that the Intel NUC has no SSD inside. Is this an issue ?

raven forge
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Since you're booting from USB probably not. You can use the USB stick but they are kinda unreliable and slow

narrow ridge
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Hi all,

I'm trying to install home assistant on docker, I want the addons and features of the OS, do I need to use supervisor version? I read that this is a bad approach as it's basically a vm in a vm?

humble mirage
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If you want add-ons use HAOS

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The Supervised install is a trap, don't do that to yourself

narrow ridge
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haha

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how do I get HAOS in docker?

humble mirage
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You don't

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Home Assistant OS is an operating system

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You run it in a VM, or directly on the host replacing the existing OS

narrow ridge
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So I have to use a VM, can't use docker to host the VM?

humble mirage
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No

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Docker isn't for hosting/running VMs

narrow ridge
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what's bad about supervisor HA?

humble mirage
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Supervised...?

narrow ridge
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yyyy..aa?

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I always get the terms mixed :p

humble mirage
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You mean other than it being horribly fragile?

narrow ridge
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say no more 😄

humble mirage
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And the fact that your install already would be breaking the requirements, ensuring that it was fucked up from the start?

narrow ridge
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ok, I have HAOS on a VMWare install, but it's a pain in the ass as it won't auto start on boot

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I could get the app to launch on start, but it won't start the server

humble mirage
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A KVM VM should be better, or at least less bad

narrow ridge
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I'll give it a go

hasty meteor
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Anyone having any problem with dev container setup installation? Onboarding is stuck after the statistics screen. Clearing cache, changing browser, trying another system and computer... Nothing works. The integrations screens just bugs. No specific logs.
I have posted in dev add-ons already but maybe this issue is about installing instead.

humble mirage
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This channel is about installing Home Assistant, not developer environments

humble scaffoldBOT
tawny pier
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as a minimum does HA need one real cpu core with HT? or two cores without HT?

humble mirage
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Two cores of any form

raven forge
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Are you running a pentium 4 or something?

humble mirage
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You're looking at a minimum of 2 cores (with a CPUMark of at least 900), 2 GB of RAM, and 32 GB of disk space - but more of everything is good

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Technically you can run on less, but ... you really don't want to

tawny pier
raven forge
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You shouldn't describe this as hyperthread

tawny pier
humble mirage
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No idea what Unraid does, or what that CPU is like, but ... maybe

tawny pier
placid sage
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Is there a way to download a copy /install of my HA setup (it's on an SD card in a Raspberry Pi 4) and save on my Desktop?
And if so, is there a way to automate this?
thanks!

humble mirage
placid sage
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thank you!

coral plank
coral plank
queen bronze
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I've seen a few mentions of a change to swap in HAOS. It sort of sounds like swap is being moved into RAM? Wondering if anyone has any more information on this.

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Also not sure if this would be better suited for the dev channel

vivid chasm
#

Anyone have a Yellow using NVMe have their install (apparently) wiped and installed to the CM4's EMMc after running a HA OS update?

humble mirage
vivid chasm
brisk sorrel
#

Guys can you tell me how to format a ssd m.2 that had home assistant on. I want to install HA on my spare sdd m.2 but windows will not delete all the partitions and will not formate the drive aswell. I presume it's because the drive is another operation system. I tried Diskpart aswell with no success. Please help thanks

humble mirage
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It doesn't matter - when you flash the image it over-writes the entire drive

brisk sorrel
sudden quarry
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run the flash program with admin priv

crude inlet
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@brisk sorrel with diskpart did you use "clean"?

brisk sorrel
slow kite
#

Hi all, HA isnt seeing Skyconnect in devices. Any help?

rose sinew
#

When you have updates available for both the OS and Core, what order is best to update them in?

grand pivot
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doesn't matter

wary idol
#

Follow up to the issue yesterday I was having. Looks like a provider ISP issue. They're allowing port 80 in-bound but somewhere along the return path it's getting filtered (verified via pcaps on both firewall and remote device I was testing). I get it they don't want people running their own services over port 80 then blaming the ISP that their network got hacked. But on the same token i've had google fiber and other providers and never had an issue with opening up webservers for remote access.

humble mirage
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Good news, you've got 65534 other ports to pick from

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(maybe 65535 if you want to play with port zero)

grand pivot
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Google to the rescue

humble mirage
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Port 42 it is then

placid sage
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When I update to Core 2023.4.3 or higher all my historical data is lost (>300MB). I placed back my latest backup with 2023.4.2, but now newer data is not recorded any more. Does any one have an idea on how can keep my data when updating to the newest Core version?

hushed fern
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Hello, I think i've lost my mind 2 hours ago... I'm trying to create a HA docker instance for testing. I've created a docker-compose file like this : ```version: "3"
services:
hadev:
container_name: hadev
image: homeassistant/home-assistant:latest
restart: unless-stopped
volumes:
- /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
- /dock_dev/hadev:/config
#devices:
# - "/dev/ttyUSB0:/dev/ttyUSB0"
privileged: true
network_mode: host
ports:
- "8123:8123"

humble mirage
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Why are you using latest?

hushed fern
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for dev

humble mirage
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Also... network_mode and ports can't be mixed

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Pick one

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Docker likely complained at you about that

hushed fern
#

I told you i had lost my mind... Thanks to point me to the error 🙂 removed network_mode and now it's fine !

raven forge
grand pivot
# hushed fern for dev

Using the "latest" container tag won't help you with development - it just picks the last image that was built, which isn't at all the tip of the repo. For development, you should look into using a devcontainer

safe parcel
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I currently have HA OS running on an rpi. I was looking to move it to a more powerful dedicated server. I was planning on using a HA container install, but after reading some info about different versions of HA installs I wasn't as sure. Can anyone explain, or point me to an explanation about, the pros and cons of HA OS on VM, HA container, and HA supervised? Any information that can help be determine which is likely best for me to use. Also please let me know there are any reasons something like HA yellow or a NUC may be a better route than a larger server for whichever install you may recommend.

brittle sail
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yellow is same as a pi and has the same hardware limitations

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nuc, mini pc, used laptop, etc are good options - one popular choice is lenovo m910q or similar on ebay

#

haos bare metal or vm, or docker container are the only sane install methods

safe parcel
safe parcel
brittle sail
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that's fine if you need a lot of storage or something

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supervised isnt an option basically

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supervised is you having to manually manage and keep up to date with prerequisites that 99% of people cant or wont follow correctly

#

if you want the supervisor with the addon store then you need to run haos whether vm or bare metal

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if you want full control / more work, use docker and whatever other containers you need such as mosquitto, zwave-js, etc etc etc

#

old image showing how it all fits together

safe parcel
# brittle sail if you want full control / more work, use docker and whatever other containers y...

So basically rather than use add-ons, I just run the "add ons" as separate containers on the same server or network connected server and I'll have the same functionality, correct?

And for backing up the HA data/config/install, rather than using the backup within HA OS, I just backup the entire container to a separate location and restore if needed, correct?

And from those two items, I have the same functionality as I would have as if I was running HA OS, correct?

brittle sail
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almost the same functionality

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there's a few things that haos with addons and home assistant can do together with that "trust factor"

safe parcel
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Did you mean "can't* do together"?

And is there an example that you would be able to give to help me understand?

brittle sail
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i'm not the best person to answer that fully

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no, i meant can do

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as in haos with certain addons CAN do a few things that docker container separate setup cannot

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esphome ingress is one i think

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as far as your backup question yeah

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basically you just use a sane backup strategy for your docker setup

safe parcel
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Ok, just wanted to make sure. And Like the add-ons I'm most concerned about are node-red, mqtt broker, a ntp server, and HACS.

I haven't used esphome, but I'm guessing there's a work around I could do for that if it came up. I get it was just an example, just commenting.

And yeah for backups I figured there be a simple ish way since it's a container, just wanted to verify.

brittle sail
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i'm personally a fan of haos and keeping home assistant separate from my server

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which is separate from my network, which is separate from my cameras

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if i lose one i dont lose the others

safe parcel
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You mean like haos running on a nuc and all your other items on a separate server running containers?

brittle sail
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i mean anything my smart home needs running inside haos on its own hardware

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if i lose server, i dont lose smart home

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etc

safe parcel
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Yeah I gotcha. So what do you run HA on?

brittle sail
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currently a used laptop

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i have a m910q i just got that i might move it to

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i'm currently playing with proxmox on it- i might virtualize haos on it idk

safe parcel
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Oh ok, and do you use add ons in the OS or do you run them, like node red or mqtt broker, on a separate server?

brittle sail
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i use addons for home assistant like mqtt

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i have all my other containers on my server

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like plex, sonarr, radarr, nextcloud, etc

safe parcel
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Ok. I've just had some issues with the mqtt and node red with certs and whatnot, I thought maybe having it running as their own container may help me with those issues and allow me to customize them better. Though that may be due to other issues.

brittle sail
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idk man shouldnt have any cert issues regardless

safe parcel
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And as for hardware, I was kinda looking for a rack since I was planning on having other racks for network items, but I'll look into some of the items you mentioned. I suppose it would be easy enough to just set a a HAOS dedicated machine next to or inside of the server rack.

safe parcel
brittle sail
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there's plenty of guides for letsencrypt certbot to get certs from a cert authority

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anyways figure that out when you get there it's easy

safe parcel
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Yeah I was using an rpi to create the certs using some package that I ran in the rpi cmd, but again I haven't worked with it in a while since it wasn't really all that important.

Anyway, thanks for all the info and help.

placid sage
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Hi I installed home assistant core on docker desktop on windows. I’ve mounted the host file system to /config and can see the files there. However I’m not sure if they’re really the files. For example, I have installed iSpy agent dvr integration. It installed and I’ve got a camera running in the dashboard but now I want to change the config and configuration.yaml is very bare. No sensors or anything. If I log in to the docker terminal and go to /config then I see exactly what I see in the host file system. Where else could I look? Thanks

humble mirage
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Things you do in the UI generally don't touch YAML

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Also, Docker on Windows isn't supported - many integrations won't work

placid sage
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Where are their configurations stored? I’d like to add an entity

humble mirage
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What are you trying to do

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The files you're looking for aren't ones you edit

placid sage
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It says that once installed agent_dvr will expose services such as turn_off. I want to find these services and use them.

humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
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You'll find the services there, not in any file

humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
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Similarly you'll find all the entities in your system there

placid sage
#

It only shows one service. So ordinarily I should expect all available services to show up here right?

humble mirage
#

Yes

placid sage
#

Any idea if the services haven’t shown up?

humble scaffoldBOT
#

If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

humble mirage
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Check your log file

placid sage
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Ok thanks

azure marsh
#

Hi any tip for HA yellow the yellow led is off on startup. HA yellow with POE (using power supply ATM) + CM4102016. Flashed the eMMC using rpiboot.

humble mirage
azure marsh
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Ok Fixed the problem with the yellow led not lit up. rpiboot -d secure-boot-msd

rugged osprey
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I getting still the Error Booting 'Slot A (OK=0 TRY=0)'

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What does this mean ?

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I create a Stick with the HA OS

wind scaffold
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Hi there, quick question, is there a minimum hardware requirements on installing HA?

humble mirage
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Yes

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Pi3B or better if you're using a Pi

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On x86 you need UEFI support, 64 bit, 2+ cores (CPUmark of at least 900), 2+ GB of RAM, and at least 32 GB of storage

brittle sail
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Tldr buy a mini pc fuck pis

wind scaffold
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I'm looking around for a mini PC or thin clients for HA.

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Figured that's better than Pis

brittle sail
humble mirage
brittle sail
#

If you want cheaper google thin clients instead

wind scaffold
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Oh right, wrong channel.

brittle sail
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Ya that too

wide warren
#

Hello, is there an easy way to migrate completely a HAOS instance from a physical computer to a VM ?

brittle sail
wide warren
#

oh, so I am that dumb that I didn't even look in the menu 🙂

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sorry

brittle sail
#

I forgive you

woeful flare
#

Hello, im currently running home assistant on a raspberry pi, but i've gotten a truenas (scale-bluefin) up and running now, and am kinda wanting to move the home assistant over there, doing the whole backup/restore seem super easy on the pi, but on the truenas apps (docker?) image thing, there's no option to either upload the backup, nor to restore from a backup taken, i've been unable to find a guide to help me migrate... any links i've missed or something in regards to how i do this easiest ?

humble mirage
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You can only restore if you use HAOS

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You really need to run HA in a VM to get that on TrueNAS... assuming it supports VMs

woeful flare
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oh okay, yah it does seem to support that, thank :), i'll try that

sly escarp
#

I just did a fresh install & restored from backup. After 20 minutes, I rebooted the machine, and when it rebooted, it was missing several addons; however, it listed the backup I restored from. If I re-restore to that backup, will I get the missing addons back?

brittle sail
#

then addons magically work as expected

sly escarp
#

So now, in the new host, I did "restore from backup" and selected the same backup from yesterday

#

How can I tell whether it's still "working", or when it's safe to reboot?

humble mirage
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It'll reboot itself

sly escarp
#

I managed to get most add-ons back by restoring one at a time. However, now deconz appears to be the last thing that won't start:

Apr 19 16:32:45 debian hassio_supervisor[576]: 23-04-19 16:32:45 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.utils.json] Can't write /data/addons/data/core_deconz/options.json: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/data/addons/data/core_deconz/tmp7psl9_8x'
Apr 19 16:32:45 debian hassio_supervisor[576]: 23-04-19 16:32:45 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.addons.addon] Add-on core_deconz can't write options
Apr 19 16:32:45 debian homeassistant[576]: 2023-04-19 16:32:45.183 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio] Failed to to call /addons/core_deconz/start - Unknown error, see supervisor
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Is there a file or something I should try to create to help it out?

wary idol
# grand pivot Google to the rescue

While I appreciate the joke... letsencrypt won't let you run on anything other than 80 for valid cert generation. Ended up just tunneling my HA machine over to some equipment I've got in a colo and running opening the ports there.

#

Extra hops and latency but locally it works excellently with the public domain name in the dmz setup with some xlates for the ip the domains pointed to.

grand pivot
#

You don't need to open any ports if you use DNS-01

toxic ibex
#

I have a noob question. Got an odroid n2+ that seems to be preinstalled with Mate, I'm trying to enable mass storage, but when I run ums dev/mmcblk0 it tells me ums does not exist.

When SPI is toggled it doesn't boot to terminal like in this document:
https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#flashing-an-odroid-n2

It boots straight to Mate UI. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

sterile salmon
#

Does anyone know why zigbee is down after the HA update?

humble mirage
#

#zigbee-archived would - if you tell them if you're using ZHA, Zigbee2MQTT, or deCONZ

distant jungle
#

is there any way to run HA w/ supervisor in docker or do i have to run it in a VM / bare metal

raven forge
humble mirage
#

Hint, one of those is a trap

radiant wadi
#

I just updated HA and now Zigbee2MQTT cannot start

humble mirage
#

What's in Z2M's log?

reef tendon
#

Anyone experience with restoring a backup on a fresh install? I've just selected my full backup, it asked me whether i wanted to restore a full backup. I clicked yes and now the screen just stays the same. Do i just need to be patient or...?

brazen herald
#

You need to be patient, but depending on how big the backup is it may not successfully upload.

fair spindle
#

Is there a reason the HAOS 10.0 upgrade can just disappear? I had it for a couple days but it seems to have gone away.

copper steppe
#

They pulled it from a couple of platforms because it had chance of bricking them

fair spindle
#

Ah, that'd do it. Thanks!

amber iron
#

soo, i had a database error and i ended up restoring from backup, but now im missing about 12 hours of history stats. is it possible for me to combine the old database with the new and update that file or should i just not mess with that

amber iron
static marsh
#

Good Morning, after a electric error, i can't start the docker. Error is journald is not enabled on the host
What can i do?
My System is Debian 11 on a NUC

raven forge
#

Please post those errors here. Are you usin a supervised install?

static marsh
#

docker start homeassistant
Error response from daemon: failed to initialize logging driver: journald is not enabled on this host
Error: failed to start containers: homeassistant

static marsh
raven forge
static marsh
#

OK, but what can i do?

raven forge
#

Check if the config is configured as described in the link. At least I assume that's the issue. I'm not that familiar with the supervised installation

static marsh
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yes, etc/docker/daemon.json is log-driver journald

raven forge
#

Can you use the journal at all? Like does journalctl error and journalctl --verify show anything useful?
What does systemctl list-units --failed and systemctl status systemd-journald say?
The error comes from one of docker's dependencies (moby) when /run/systemd/journal/socket (default) cannot be opened if that helps

wind scaffold
#

Does TrueNAS work in tandem with HA?

humble mirage
#

What do you mean?

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You can install HA on TrueNAS

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There's apparently a custom integration for TrueNAS too

wind scaffold
#

Ah great, I'm really not so good at this. I had my old computer lying around so I installed Ubuntu on it and try to create a VM but it's not working? Since my initial idea was to create a NAS with this PC, I thought maybe I can use that as a workaround.

humble mirage
#

Depending on whether you go with Scale or Core you'll have different options, but IMO your best bet is to run HAOS in a VM

raven forge
wind scaffold
wind scaffold
frank perch
wind scaffold
#

Oh dang. I never thought about that

frank perch
#

Well, its bitten me in the ass before.... lol

placid sage
#

hi, i recently bought a new zigbee device, as my previous one wasn't properly supported in zigbee2mqtt
I plugged in the new device and changed from ttyACM0:ttyACM0 to ttyUSB0:ttyACM0 in my docker compose for both home assistant and zigbee2mqtt.
home assistant now no longer loads and tells me the following in the logs:

Unable to set up dependencies of cloud. Setup failed for dependencies: http, webhook
Unable to set up dependencies of safe_mode. Setup failed for dependencies: frontend, cloud```
(there is much more but i summarised what seemed important, i can provide full logs)
zigbee2mqtt also doesn't work but it doesn't give me any error logs, it acts like everything is fine
however when i switch back to the old device, zigbee2mqtt comes back online, but home assistant does not
any help is much apreciated :)
fallen lichen
#

definitely seeing all of the logs would help, all that shows is something somewhere errored

placid sage
#

well esentially the entire log file is like this, as i am unable to upload a file to this discord server, i uploaded it to my own nextcloud server and created a publicly accessible link (i know it looks sketchy, but idk what else to do)

fallen lichen
#

pastebin or wherever doesn't require a file download

placid sage
fallen lichen
#

You recently attempt to configure SSL?

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Looks like it can't find your cert files

placid sage
#

yup, thanks
however, why does it delete the contents of /ssl get deleted every time the container is started?
i added it as an external read only volume

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ah wait yeah, docker

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i'm not used to using docker yet xD

slender adder
#

Try to setup HA on VirtualBox on MacOS. The only thing I get in the window is 'Booting 'Slot A (OK=0 TRY:0)'. Any idea what's wrong?

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Used latest version of VirtualBox and HA (haos_ova-10.0.vdi)

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Worked great on Mac Mini but on Macbook Air it won't. Macbook Air doesn't has a fixed Ethernet port, only Wifi. Used USB to Ethernet adapter and so far have internet on the Macbook, while Wifi is disabled, so the adapter works.

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In Virtualbox under 'Network' I have: 'Bridged adapter', name: en4: USB 10/100/1000 LAN

slender adder
#

Seems 'problem' with VirtualBox. Used same version that works on Mac Mini V6.1 and it now also works on MacBook Air

earnest laurel
#

Hi guys, the last update totally broke my HA (can't even ping) so I'm thinking about a reinstall. I'm using rpi4 with external SSD - is there a way to reinstall base OS and keep all the data intact? I have a linux server with dd and fdisk and all other cli tools at my disposal, so I think this should be possible.

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Oh - another reason for a reinstall - my instance is so old, that it's from a time, when 32bit was a recommended/stable version. So I'd like to switch to 64 bit.

slender adder
#

Re-installed HA on VirtualBox and used backup file to recover everything. All my zigbee devices are working but when I click 'Zigbee2MQTT', HA gives 'Add-on is not running, please start it first.' When I check my Add-ons all of them have the red indication as they seem not started but when I check the log, they were started normally without errors but when I want to launch from the Main menu, I can't start it...

pliant gust
#

Afternoon. I am trying to setup a HAOS using the vmdk with esxi 8 and I keep getting invalid disk type 2 for scsi0:1 any ideas what I am doing wrong?

fallen lichen
proper gyro
#

How long does this actually take

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Preparing Home Assistant

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Think I've been waiting for 30 minutes now

amber iron
#

i uhh just looked at my ha client and i saw this error repeted ad infinitum all down the screen crond(59)user root pid [n+1] cmd run parts etc/periodic/15min
i could not find anything about it, whats going on here

proper gyro
#

damn plugins take for ever to install?

placid sage
#

Afternoon everyone. Im very new to Home Assistant and im trying to install the OS for HA onto the boot device. However, im using balenaEtcher and pasting the URL in, but when i click Flash! I white window opens and says Attention Somthing went wrong? Any ideas on how to sort thsi please?

humble mirage
#

Best bet... download and uncompress the image, then flash it locally

placid sage
#

Im trying to find the download for it and i must be thick cause i cant see it anywhere on the HA site

humble mirage
#

You're trying to install on a PC?

placid sage
#

Yep

humble mirage
#

There's a URL - the one you pasted into Balena - right there

placid sage
#

ah right, thank you must be having a grey moment. Thanks Tinkerer

warm forge
#

quick q installing HA on a nuc is there a way to have it installed where i can still use nuc for other things while in testing stages?

frank perch
#

If you install virtual machines yeah

fallen lichen
#

Or if you go the Docker container route, you can use the host OS for whatever else you want

raven forge
#

Or do both 🙂

warm forge
#

any vids on it that are good?

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i just use my nuc for some work stuff but wanna start working on HA

raven forge
#

Lots of videos but the easiest is probably LearnLinuxTV's proxmox guide as it goes through it step by step. Can't really recommend anything in video form for docker

warm forge
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cheers ill go look it up

warm forge
#

i can dual boot the ha install on a second hdd?

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my nuc has 2 hdds

raven forge
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Don't see why not. Don't see why you would either though

warm forge
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hahah the nuc is used for work atm, so i still need to boot to windows to work on some stuff and then when i wanna go back to testing HA ill boot to HA?

raven forge
#

In this case I'd recommend installing a hypervisor on windows and running HA in there

warm forge
#

hmmm ok

copper steppe
#

Or type 1 hypervisor native and run vms for each

warm forge
#

yer looking at hyperv now seems easy to do

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if im reading correctly i can be on the pc doing work shit and then like "rdp" into the virtual machine>

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soz for so much quesitons

copper steppe
#

Yeah, but you almost never need to "log in" to home assistant VM, it's 99% web interface

brittle sail
#

why arent you talking him into a secondary mini pc for play with proxmox

copper steppe
#

It looks like an App that is actually a (virtual) machine, with virtual disks and so on, and you can install HAOS (home assistant operating system into).

brittle sail
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do you even upsell bro?!

copper steppe
#

Hehe, I feel like enough of a pimp suggesting thinkcentre/dell/etc for sff boxes 🙂

brittle sail
#

yep

copper steppe
amber iron
#

random thought based on something i saw in here, but i would love the idea of a/b partitions the way pixels phones do. 2 separate os partitions, no need to wait for it to install during reboot. less downtime, but probably not the best use of peoples time lol

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my solution: just update overnight

warm forge
copper steppe
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Yup

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And follow the instructions

grand pivot
amber iron
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Oh TIL lmao

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Moot point then

rancid merlin
queen cradle
#

I am installing on an odroid n2+ using this odroid guide: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/odroid/

I appear to be stuck: '23-04-23 13:53:16 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete'. I was stuck on the same message for a few hours this morning, prior to rebooting. Anybody have any clues as to a potential solution, or perhaps guide me the right direction?

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Also, hi everyone, I hope y'all are having a lovely day 🙂

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just seconds after typing that message it shows me a log on screen, so uhh sorry to have wasted your bandwith.

broken axle
#

hey @ all 🙂

I need some help i want to install HA with CLI at a docker Container on a Raspi 4 because i need "HACS" (?) to implement the stream deck .. i found a virtual box image which is running - but recently no docker Image .. Can someone help me ?

humble mirage
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Do you have Home Assistant running?

#

If so, please go to the following link, then dotsvertical and System Info, in there it tells you your Installation Type

humble scaffoldBOT
#
Repairs

Open your Home Assistant instance and show your repairs

lament bobcat
#

I'm really new to this. I have a Rasp Pi up and running the HA and I created an account on my mac and it saw the devices around our home. So, my dumb question is, I'm looking at this ha> on my R-pi monitor and don't have a clue what to do next. Is this graphical interface that comes up on my mac supposed to be the same on the pi?

humble mirage
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There's no local UI

#

When you "created an account on my mac" you were creating the account in HA, you can use that account on any computer, using a web browser

lament bobcat
#

So, what's the advantage to loading it on the r-pi?

humble mirage
#

HA keeps running when you turn the Mac off?

#

I assume you only installed HA on the Pi, and not also in a VM on the Mac?

lament bobcat
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Correct. I see the "ha >" on the monitor but what do you do from there?

humble mirage
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Mostly nothing

#

You use a web browser

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There's no local UI

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The only thing you need the console for is for when you've broken things so badly the UI doesn't work

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For everything else, you interact with it over the network

orchid crater
humble mirage
jovial swallow
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Hello, i am trying to use a reverse proxy with my setup, i have used it before but it no longer works.

You're about to give https://replaced.domain.example/ access to your Home Assistant instance.
Logging in with Home Assistant Local.
Error: Something went wrong
Start over button
```web console:
```yml
- TypeError: p is undefined
- The resource at “https://replaced.domain.example/static/fonts/roboto/Roboto-Medium.woff2” preloaded with link preload was not used within a few seconds. Make sure all attributes of the preload tag are set correctly.
- Error starting auth flow TypeError: NetworkError when attempting to fetch resource.
- downloadable font: download failed (font-family: "Roboto" style:normal weight:700 stretch:100 src index:2): status=2147500036 source: https://replaced.domain.example/static/fonts/roboto/Roboto-Bold.woff2
```I get that message when i visit my domain
i am using nginx reverse proxy manager as my reverse proxy
humble mirage
#

Is NPM configured to support websockets?

jovial swallow
humble mirage
#

You've checked HA's log?

warm forge
#

was meant to install yesterday but got side tracked lol

jovial swallow
# humble mirage You've checked HA's log?

2023-04-24 06:01:59.125 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.websocket_api.http.connection] [140408895120256] Disconnected: Did not receive auth message within 10 secondsonly this message i got others are about chromecasts

warm forge
#

i mounted a new hyperv and it installed but i can not find it on the network

#

if i do network info it shows a very weird IP address?

#

legit has a 172 ip address ?

humble mirage
#

HAOS uses Docker, that's likely for the Docker internal network

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If the console doesn't show a valid local network address then probably you don't have the network connected

warm forge
#

100% do i RDP into the nuc LOL

humble mirage
#

and the VM?

warm forge
#

the VM is on the NUC i RDP into

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so it 100% has netowrk i think it has somthign to do with the swtich setting in hyperv

humble mirage
#

And I've been talking about the VM's network

warm forge
#

yer i think its to do with the vm not seting the netowkr

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hang ten

humble mirage
#

Your VM's network settings clearly ain't right

warm forge
#

LOL yes and no u r asking about the VM, not asking does the VM see the NUC network LOL

#

Ok fixed, Needed to create a new switch in the virtual switch manager > internal > select the network connection the (pc(NUC)) is on

#

Got it all working yay easy peasy

bitter oak
#

Anyone know about HA deployed on Kubernetes?

humble mirage
#

People have done it, it's not officially supported though

bitter oak
#

Do you know any issue with this?

humble mirage
#

Some stuff won't work, because HA expects to be on the host network

bitter oak
#

I think this isnt problem if you use egress IP, with CNI over eBPF (clilium for example)

humble mirage
#

The problem is any integration that relies on receiving (and sending) broadcasts

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So, anything using ssdp for example, like cast

bitter oak
#

What about configuration? On StatefulSets? I dont see other posibility.

humble mirage
#

Well, you have to ensure you have persistent storage for it

#

Without that HA isn't going to work

bitter oak
#

and rolling upgrade isnt easier that HA in normal VM... In K8S deployments HA works in manu replicas, or in one?

humble mirage
#

I'm not sure what you're asking

bitter oak
#

ok, I see that HA on K8S has more costs than benefits

humble mirage
#

If you're a K8s expert already then go for it - there's various guides out there

#

If you're not however... it's going to involve a lot of learning

bitter oak
#

I'm admin K8S on-premies clusters - 70 nodes, but I know that k8s is not a recipe for everything

frozen plinth
#

My prod HA is on k8s

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Not because it’s a good idea but because that’s what I had spare

#

Was originally on docker on ESX but that was a shit show for many reasons

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If you treat k8s as docker (pinned to a node with local storage, etc) its obviously no better or worse than docker

#

And for me less hassle than hanging a dedicated node for docker

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I don’t use host mode networking, I use Multus and macvlan so it had its own dedicated ip

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(No problems with homekit, thread, or some of the other weird multicast broadcast integrations)

#

@bitter oak ^ sorry didn’t tag you

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And no, no great desire to do HA HA with it. For me mentally I just use it as a different dialect of docker-compose that more integrates with other tooling I’m already using.

bitter oak
#

@frozen plinth I only have two servers at home (xD, only...) and am also thinking of replacing LXC with docker-compose with one k8s.

warped nimbus
#

can someone help me in frontend?

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pls

humble mirage
#

@warped nimbus you've been warned about crossposting before

warped nimbus
#

serious?

humble mirage
#

Be patient

warped nimbus
#

it's okay not to write in unsuitable channels anymore

versed badge
#

I have a spare laptop which is mostly unused.
Specs- Intel i3, 12 gb ram, 500GB SSD and 2 TB HDD

||I'm sure this is already overkill for HA||

Currently has windows and WSL installed. What's the best way to run HA on this? Dual Boot HAOS? Or VM? Or in docker

bitter oak
humble mirage
frozen plinth
#

kubevirt means more thing to patch - kubevirt and an os

versed badge
bitter oak
#

@versed badge : Why dual boot?

humble mirage
#

Just install Debian, run Docker, run everything in Docker

bitter oak
versed badge
#

Well i need windows for some stuff

bitter oak
#

but you must check if your CPU support virtualization instruction

versed badge
#

🤔

#

Pretty sure it does

#

Because i installed wsl and that needs virtualization

bitter oak
#

are you sure that WSL use real virtualization? I'm not

versed badge
#

Well I'm not sure, but I did enable that from uefi settings and task manager does show it as enabled

bitter oak
#

so maybe you have support. Windows works well on Proxmox with KVM, i share Nvidia GPU to it and play Cyberpunk

tiny heart
#

is there a path where I can see the default config? It seems that I didnt had the history enabledf (I'vew never removed it)

humble mirage
amber iron
#

my HA crashed and this is what i see at the end of the logs

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/concurrent/futures/thread.py", line 81, in _worker
    work_item = work_queue.get(block=True)
SystemExit```
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then its followed by this repeating a bunch until it finally shuts down

    self._bootstrap_inner()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/threading.py", line 1016, in _bootstrap_inner
    self.run()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/threading.py", line 953, in run
    self._target(*self._args, **self._kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/concurrent/futures/thread.py", line 81, in _worker
    work_item = work_queue.get(block=True)```
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does anyone know whats going on here and how i can stop it from happening, not the first time this has happened

bitter oak
#

What tolds dmesg and journalctl ?

amber iron
coarse dust
#

Viva alguem com cloudflared tunnels a bombar?

humble mirage
#

English please @coarse dust

coarse dust
#

Sorry 🙂

#

Anyone with cloudflared tunnels working?

bitter oak
#

Me

coarse dust
#

I have Your computer is not allowd

bitter oak
#

lets check again tutorial - all works but it is complicated

coarse dust
#

Im on tutorial for 30 min :p

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Im using local tunnel, done the auth and added the configuration

#

the trusted_proxies: one

bitter oak
#

lets check all again

gloomy steeple
#

I'm running HA as a docker container and I just realized that means I don't get Add-Ons. Is that going to be a problem at some point down the road?

humble mirage
#

Unlikely

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Almost every add-on is based on an existing Docker image, or has an equivalent option (or set of options)

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There are a handful that are purely written as add-ons, but they're the exception

amber iron
coarse dust
tiny heart
humble mirage
#

It means you have everything listed there

bitter oak
amber iron
#

hmm i updated bios just last week, its a "new" machine. it is running through proxmox for whatever difference that makes

bitter oak
#

This is professional hardware, or home PC hardware?

amber iron
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thinclient, hp t620

tiny heart
#

bc, when using the recorder: I get the following message: 'Could not setup dependencies: recorder')

#

and as far as I understood recorder is part of history: which is part of the default_config:

humble mirage
#

Check the log file

paper plover
#

why in laptop with OS hommeAssistant looks like this (supervisor,operating system,fronted) and with tvbox installation looks like this (only Frontend)??????? i cant upload my backup to this....any suggestions?

humble mirage
#

Sounds like your TVBox install didn't use HAOS

wind scaffold
#

I'm still planning my setup but is there any difference going Ubuntu or proxmox when installing HA?

fallen lichen
#

Not with HA core itself, but if you use Proxmox and install HA OS in a VM, you'll be able to use add-ons whereas w/ Ubuntu, you'd likely do a Docker container install, and you'd be managing all of your containers yourself.

humble mirage
#

If you want HAOS with add-ons then with either of those you'll be running HA in a VM

#

If you don't want add-ons then you can just rock Docker

wind scaffold
#

I'm still really new to all this but is proxmox worth the hassle? What can proxmox do that if I install Ubuntu can't?

low notch
#

Proxmox is a hypervisor, ubuntu is a full fledged OS

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you can emulate pcs on both equally (however you like), which is what proxmox is made for and on ubuntu you have to install some packages to get there

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the rest should be covered by the answers above

wind scaffold
#

From what I understand, proxmox can be installed without any OS?

low notch
#

proxmox is based on the same os (debian) but bare minimum (to run virtual machines) compared to a full linux installation (ubuntu/debian)

wind scaffold
#

I'm leaning towards Proxmox, I was reading that I could also throw in truenas in there as well?

humble mirage
#

That's ... going to get interesting fast, and not in a good way

wind scaffold
#

Can you kindly explain?

humble mirage
#

If you want it to be your NAS too then use UnRAID on it directly

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Running a NAS inside a VM.... not a great choice

low notch
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please don't consider installing supervised

bitter oak
#

Yes, if you asking about basical, installing supervisor isnt for you. UnRaid if good remeber is paid. Truenas is NAS system with VM support, proxmox is hypervisor. You should compare both looking for partitions and filesystem which it using. Proxmox can be installed on ZFS, Truenas if i good remeber on Btrfs. In my optinion, ZFS is better for NAS.

humble mirage
#

If you're doing anything other than following the Supervised install guide exactly then it's not for you... and you should still reconsider

bitter oak
#

best for you is creating 2 VM (not containers) on Proxmox or Truenas. One with HAOS and one with Windows.

wind scaffold
#

Alright. Like I said, I still have no idea what I want to do. I figured installing Ubuntu would be a good fun learning experience and then use a docker for HA. But I would still like the flexibility of using a Web remote like in proxmox (unless I could also do that in Ubuntu but clarify me if I am speaking out of my butt here)

bitter oak
#

So create next vm, install ubuntu 22.04 and on this install for example NextCloud in docker with docker-compose

humble mirage
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You can install Debian and then install Proxmox, then you've got the ability to run Docker on the host and VMs for everything else

bitter oak
#

but then you cannot* use ZFS filesystem

humble mirage
#

My Debian server with ZFS would disagree

bitter oak
#

proxmox from ISO is debian with proxmox packages

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but you dotn ask about basicals, you know what you doing

humble mirage
#

I can read and follow the Debian ZFS docs, yes 😛

coarse dust
wind scaffold
#

Would it make sense to have my thin client set up for HA and then a different PC for Nas/plex? Or should I forego the thin client and go for the old pc here?

humble mirage
#

Depends on the spec

wind scaffold
#

It's a T620 HP thin client. 4GB Ram and 16GB Flash ssd

humble mirage
#

GX-415GA is ok, not awesome but ok, GX-217GA is lower performance than a Pi4

kindred matrix
#

Hey all. I've got a relatively simple question regarding a VMWare installation of HA.

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Recently needed to rebuild mine.

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How do you set VMWare up so that a specific USB device is automatically attached when the VM is run?

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When I reboot my VM, I need to manually select my USB Zigbee controller.

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On my previous VM build, this happened automatically and I do not recall how I did it.

humble mirage
#

VMWare workstation?

kindred matrix
#

Correct.

#

Comparing my current and previous .vmx file I do see a line that might be relevant.

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usb.autoConnect.device0 = "0x10C4:0xEA60"

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Simply copying that over unfortunately did not work.

#

Or rather, once I open VMware Workstation my .vmx file is automatically edited and usb.autoConnect.device0 = "0x10C4:0xEA60" is removed.

humble mirage
#

I'd check the VMWare docs/knowledge base

kindred matrix
#

Yup, looking that over now.

meager saddle
#

im having an issue adding HACS to my HA instance - just get a blank screen with checkboxes. have followed all the steps of removing, rebooting and installing. anyone have ny similar issues?

humble mirage
#

Try with the default theme

meager saddle
#

This is the error i get:

Logger: frontend.js.latest.202304111
Source: components/system_log/init.py:257
First occurred: 15:48:49 (7 occurrences)
Last logged: 16:40:45

:0:0 Script error.
https://#####.duckdns.org/frontend_latest/app-BWfprBTJFp0.js:2:215408 Error: Failed to execute 'define' on 'CustomElementRegistry': the name "mushroom-select" has already been used with this registry
https://#####.duckdns.org/hacsfiles/kiosk-mode/kiosk-mode.js?hacstag=497319128173:1:5301 TypeError: null is not an object (evaluating 'i.querySelector')
https://######.duckdns.org/hacsfiles/kiosk-mode/kiosk-mode.js?hacstag=497319128173:1:5206 TypeError: null is not an object (evaluating 'e.shadowRoot.querySelector("hui-root").shadowRoot')

humble mirage
#

Did you try with the default theme in HA?

#

I've seen a lot of problems caused by custom themes

meager saddle
#

Yes i’ve done the default theme and tried again

#

Still same

grand pivot
#

or perhaps with a language that isn't supported?

#

or clearing your browser cache

meager saddle
#

Thats the error i receive on logs:

This is the error i get:

Logger: frontend.js.latest.202304111
Source: components/system_log/init.py:257
First occurred: 15:48:49 (7 occurrences)
Last logged: 16:40:45

:0:0 Script error.
https://#####.duckdns.org/frontend_latest/app-BWfprBTJFp0.js:2:215408 Error: Failed to execute 'define' on 'CustomElementRegistry': the name "mushroom-select" has already been used with this registry
https://#####.duckdns.org/hacsfiles/kiosk-mode/kiosk-mode.js?hacstag=497319128173:1:5301 TypeError: null is not an object (evaluating 'i.querySelector')
https://######.duckdns.org/hacsfiles/kiosk-mode/kiosk-mode.js?hacstag=497319128173:1:5206 TypeError: null is not an object (evaluating 'e.shadowRoot.querySelector("hui-root").shadowRoot')

#

Tried clearing cache, incognito, different browsers, different device

grand pivot
#

If you don't have HACS installed via the UI, /hacsfiles won't exist

meager saddle
#

I had to remove hacs due to an issue and now im trying to reinstall and get the above

grand pivot
#

You should remove the resource(s) that are expecting /hacsfiles to be present.

willow halo
#

hi i get
ValueError: dbus_fast._private.marshaller.Marshaller size changed, may indicate binary incompatibility. Expected 48 from C header, got 40 from PyObject in bluetooth and
ValueError: zeroconf._dns.DNSEntry size changed, may indicate binary incompatibility. Expected 64 from C header, got 56 from PyObject in zeroconf
before i reinstall everything, i'd like to make sure that this is caused by python3.11
what else could it be?

humble mirage
#

Build a fresh venv on 3.10 and see if it happens there too?

torpid raft
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it doesnt show any ipv4 addresses when trying to install

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its just homeassistant.local: and the port

#

@humble mirage sorry for pinging u but can you answer

low notch
#

is it a vm installation? make sure your adapter/iface gets detected

mental mantle
#

Welp, hass is starting in safe mode, even though the supervisor and the console dont pose any issues. And i can't download the logs because r is undefined. I really need help!
Raspi 4 8G 32 or 64GB of sd card

low notch
#

r is undefined?

mental mantle
#

I ran core check but it has been processing for a few mins now, is that normal?

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Yeah, it says that on the website

torpid raft
low notch
#

that is not normal

mental mantle
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:pain:

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Now i ran it again and it says it got 500 as server response

low notch
low notch
mental mantle
#

Luckily i do

low notch
#

flash it, restore the backup

torpid raft
#

when i connect my ethernet cable to my laptop it doesnt show

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it shows my 5g wireless router i think

crude inlet
#

@mental mantle you should be able to see logs in safe mode. You can't download them because of what? R?

low notch
torpid raft
low notch
#

keep it connected

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make sure virtualbox sees your ethernet connection

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else there's not much we can do

mental mantle
torpid raft
#

i cant upload pics here

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can i dm u?

low notch
humble scaffoldBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

low notch
#

and paste the link here

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but images aren't really helpful in this situation imo

crude inlet
#

@mental mantle I would check the config yaml for any stray typos

mental mantle
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How do i do that?

torpid raft
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do i need to restart

crude inlet
#

You should also be abl to access the home-assistant.log file directly as it's in the config directory

low notch
torpid raft
#

i am

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still the same

low notch
#

make sure your operating system shows the network interface for your ethernet connection

torpid raft
#

it does

low notch
#

turn off wifi

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and try from this point on

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virtualbox must offer you the option to create a bridged network interface with this ethernet connection

torpid raft
#

it doesnt

humble mirage
#

It should...

low notch
#

have a look at general virtualbox settings, not the vm settings

mental mantle
crude inlet
#

Whatever access you have configured yourself for the config directory

torpid raft
#

it doesnt appear

mental mantle
torpid raft
#

faled to start nework mwnwgernow

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oh god i cwnt type

mental mantle
#

Found the error through the cli

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Now how do i fix it? Is there vim or nano in the cli?

torpid raft
#

still doesnt show any ip bruh

torpid raft
#

i fixed it without the ethernet cable being plugged in thanks for the help @low notch

low notch
#

whats the purpose of installing a ethernet bridge and then remove the medium?

mental mantle
#

is there a way to retrieve the ipv6 address from hass?

#

the one in the system settings and the one shown in my router dont seem to work at all

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it somehow started working xD

queen bronze
#

@ashen charm I saw some benchmarks in the linked cpython repo (43s improvement for 1GB), but not sure how this translates to our use case.

willow halo
ashen charm
copper steppe
#

For most people 90% of their /config usage is db

#

I assume. I never looked at mine

brittle sail
copper steppe
#

My DB is/was 95%

➜  config (( FRAC = 100 * $(du home-assistant_v2.db | cut -f1) / $(du | tail -1 | cut -f1) ))
➜  config echo $FRAC
95
# 
➜  config ls -lS
total 1290216
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root     1305427968 Feb 11 09:52 home-assistant_v2.db
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       7802412 Apr 23 13:21 home-assistant.log.1
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root       7637689 Apr 25 10:17 home-assistant.log
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root        217088 Jan 29 10:50 zigbee.db
...
raven forge
#

Don't make me think. Use -h. Why is it so fat?

copper steppe
#

Lots of sensors. Long retention. I switched to Maria db anyway

humble mirage
#

did that still fails although the

west pumice
#

is there a solution to MQTT broker, Unable to create websockets listener on port 1884?

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@west pumice Please do not cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

west pumice
#

sorry, was not sure in which group to post

humble mirage
silent parcel
#

Hey, I was wondering. Is it possible to configure HA to write each sensor reading to the database instead of writing just values that differ from previous ones? I observe this with my Influx and this also applies even with native DB. Is there something I am missing? How can I force it to write all readings to DB?

humble mirage
#

For the recorder that was changed to reduce the amount of data written

tepid lynx
#

Is there any parameter for enforcing it again?

humble mirage
#

No

tepid lynx
#

I think this should be possible to enable/disable. Default value is ok. But Not anybody is running HA on small environments

#

Should we open a Feature request?

humble mirage
#

Sure, but don't expect it to happen shrug

silent parcel
#

Thanks for answer, although that is relatively sad. It is really an overkill to use Telegraf for data acquisition in this case, when we have HA with nice GUI and all of the setup. And Influx does not complain that much about the data amount. Thanks for quick response!

tepid lynx
fresh solstice
#

hi guys, im having a few issues running HA on virtual box. sometimes i have to go into VB windows and press a key for it to respond. any advise?

lavish ferry
#

Hey guys can anyone help me. I just launched a hassio vm on esxi. All is up and running however I would like to run ssl on my internal network, I.e. I started of navigating to
http://homeassistant.local:8123 I would like to use
https://homeassistant.local:8123

I understand I need to implement ssl and with certs and keys how would I do this ?

humble mirage
#

You'll need to create a CA for .local in your network

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Configure all your devices to trust that CA

#

Then issue a certificate for homeassistant.local

lavish ferry
#

Thanks. So I understand all of this and have implemented ssl on a number of other servers on my local net but following a similar process for HA hasn’t been working is there a step by step guid for implementing this with HA specifically

humble mirage
#

Just configure the http integration with ssl_certificate and ssl_key

#

You'll need to drop the keys somewhere, like /config/ssl/ and use those paths

#

Then run...

humble scaffoldBOT
humble mirage
#

And if it passes, restart HA

lavish ferry
#

Awesome thanks

ivory gale
#

Wifi question

Currently I'm connected via LAN to my main router, I want to connect my RPI4 which has HA on it to a different wifi router, my question is, will it seamlessly switch to wifi by doing so from the settings, while the LAN cable is still connected to the old router?

*I can't remove the lan cable as I'm away from home.

Thanks

tawny timber
#

Question for all you who have successfully installed this. I installed HA as a VM on my Mac using virtual box. the install went well, no issues there. I get the banner with the IP address I allocated and everything looks right. I am able to ping that address from my host computer as well as other computers on the network.
I am unable to reach the login web gui. when I try to reach it through the IP address or the HA.local address I get site can not be reached IP refused to connect.
any ideas why I cant reach HA?

fallen lichen
#

Are you trying to connect on port 8123?

tawny timber
#

yes I am.

tawny timber
#

also the firewall is disabled on this mac so port 8123 is open

fossil veldt
#

Hey

#

Any chance I can get a qemu image for ha

humble mirage
fossil veldt
#

Thank you

low notch
tawny timber
#

The VM has its own address.

#

another bit of info, connecting to the home assistant observer comes back connected, supported, and healthy.

raven forge
#

Interesting. Can you check the supervisor logs and docker ps?

tawny timber
#

I rebuilt the core and now its letting me in. I am not sure why it suddenly started working as I tried a complete reinstall earlier.

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thank you for all the suggestions and help

heady anvil
#

im using ubuntu server and i cant get the hass command for homeassistant core installation to work

humble mirage
#

You need to activate the venv

heady anvil
#

huh

sage hill
#

Does anybody have MyQ garage door integration. I have it and it work ok but I don’t see any entities for binary_sensor_status. I want to create a custom card using the binary_sensor_status entities. I can see cover.garage_door. Binary_sensor_hub_myq_gateway and binary_sensor_hub_2_myq_gateway I want to know what is the binary_sensor for when the door is open and when the door is close

humble mirage
#

If you have a Core install (pip install) you have to activate the venv to use the hass command

heady anvil
#

so what command do i run?

humble mirage
#

You did pip install for HA?

heady anvil
#

i think so

#

i just followed the install guide for the core

humble mirage
#

Then along the way you created a venv

heady anvil
#

ye

humble mirage
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We don't know where you created it... only you do

heady anvil
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yea

humble mirage
heady anvil
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ok

humble mirage
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If you matched the docs then the commands there will work

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sudo -u homeassistant -H -s
source /srv/homeassistant/bin/activate
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Docker is calling you 😛

heady anvil
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can i not send photos here?

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homeassistant is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.

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after the first command it says that

humble mirage
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Then... you are already homeassistant and don't need to run that

heady anvil
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ah

humble mirage
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And images of text are horrible, please don't

heady anvil
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ok

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so what do i do now

humble mirage
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What are you trying to do?

heady anvil
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use the hass command

humble mirage
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To do what?

heady anvil
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im very new to linux im not sure what im doing

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install home assistant core

humble mirage
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Then... you REALLY don't want to use a Core install

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This is just going to be a nightmare for you

heady anvil
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ah

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should i use docker

humble mirage
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Yes

heady anvil
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alr

humble mirage
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Or HAOS in a VM

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Also... if you don't already have a plan for backups make that plan now

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Otherwise you'll have a broken system you want to recover, and no way of doing that

tiny heart
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why using core when you can have haos in a very handy installation image?

hollow sky
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I just realised, I have the mariaDB add-on but no recorder entry in my configuration.yaml... how could I check whether there is actually an data in my mariaDB or I've been on SQLite all along? 😆

brittle sail
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Lmao

tiny heart
brittle sail
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Well the good news is you have nothing to revert back to

tiny heart
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but to be honest, I am looking also a way to access the values through SQL statements 😄

brittle sail
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Since now the devs have optimized SQLite to be more performant than mariadb with hass

raven forge
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@tiny heart You could use the PhpMyAdmin addon or HeidiSQL

tiny heart
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I have the phpmyadmin, but with SELECT * FROM states WHERE 1 all entitiy_id are empty

hollow sky
tiny heart
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I would assume to have the entitiy under the entitiy_id in the table "states"

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and the docs are not straight forward. imo

heady anvil
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ERROR: The Compose file './docker-compose.yaml' is invalid because:
'homeassistant' does not match any of the regexes: '^x-'

You might be seeing this error because you're using the wrong Compose file version. Either specify a supported version (e.g "2.2" or "3.3") and place your service definitions under the services key, or omit the version key and place your service definitions at the root of the file to use version 1.
For more on the Compose file format versions, see https://docs.docker.com/compose/compose-file/

brittle sail
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Nothing to check lol

hollow sky
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well that was an easy fix to "how to revert back to SQLite" 🤣

lavish ferry
tiny heart
lavish ferry
lavish ferry
tiny heart
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would be great

placid sage
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How long does a partial restore (config file) usually take? It's been on the swirling-circle for about 20mins.......

raven forge
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Depends. Can you click that circle?

placid sage
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Nothing happens

fossil veldt
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Ok so I decided to skip virtualisation altogether and to go for a generic x86 instead. I jsut have a question, will the OS see my default webcam (it's a laptop)? or is there no way to kno

humble mirage
fossil veldt
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thats perfect

celest quartz
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Hey all, did HAOS 10.1 ship yet? It was built this morning (8hrs ago). Thanks

fallen lichen
celest quartz
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Oh okay I guess tomorrow beta testers will get two bonuses

celest quartz
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Actually, I just enabled beta and downloaded it. Thanks again

copper steppe
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I can't see any fixes explicitly tied to the higher-cpu issue...

celest quartz
copper steppe
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I ran an profile on before + after, digging into them now; nothing obvious

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Currently going down a bit of a rabbit hole - one of my integrations is showing up a lot of cpu (both before+after), so I'm looking into that

celest quartz
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I'm surprised you submitted that to HAOS as it seems like a core issue. I would submit in core and hope that the dev named bdraco sees it. He's really good at hunting things down like this and finding issues with stability and performance with HA.

copper steppe
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The increased CPU usage is 100% related to HAOS update. Leaving HA version the same. Reverting to 9.5 is 100% fix

brittle sail
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Bdraco is everywhere

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On lots of integrations and haos and core etc etc

copper steppe
brittle sail
celest quartz
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Lol bdraco is the guy you need for this.

ashen charm
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profiler / py-spy likely won't help since its not core itself

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won't hurt to try though in case its something really off the wall triggering something in core

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If you email them over I'll take a look when I land in a few hours nick - at - koston - dot - org

copper steppe
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will do

ashen charm
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(or if ✈️ wifi decides to work at more than 1 KB/s)

copper steppe
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They look a bit swamped by 1-2 of my local-polling integrations (tplink_ess and starlink), but I don't think it demonstrates much.

ashen charm
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it would be good to get a comparison of 9.5/10.0

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maybe I'll see a pattern

copper steppe
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sent

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