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turbid cedar
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ah, disabling automations would be a good idea 😄

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yeah and cloud stuff too... thank you, i guess now im prepared 😄

lucid temple
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hi guys

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anyone help on my problem above 🙂

hushed fern
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No i didn't find any tools to migrate and no I want my history. I was perhaps not clear the other night. But is my backup/resotre idea is suitable ?

fallen lichen
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No... what would you have to restore? If you have no history in Maria, it won't magically be created.

magic salmon
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Hi all; new here because I've run into an issue twice over the past few weeks and I'm at a loss as to how to diagnose or solve the issue:

I've got a Pi 4 running HAOS, and I've had two instances over the past few weeks where the web UI becomes inaccessible; just no response when I attempt to access it. I can see that the Pi is connected to my network, but I can't ping it or SSH into it (I had installed the SSH addon in Home Assistant, but it's still not accessible). I hooked up a monitor to the Pi and I can see it start up and everything seems to be working fine, but I'm not sure what to do at the CLI to diagnose it. The last time it happened (a week or two ago), it seemed to resolve itself after a day or two. This time around, it's been down for several days.

Any help would be appreciated; I can't find anything with a web search that seems to apply to my situation.

fallen lichen
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You could probably dump out all of the rows to a file and import them from pg

hushed fern
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actually all is in the postgre sql. So my idea was to backup hass with postgre connected. Change the db to maria and restore

fallen lichen
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Postgres is an addon though, yes?

hushed fern
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no it's a docker db on another pi

fallen lichen
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Sure... well anyway, the data is on that other pi

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That's where the history data lives

hushed fern
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yep

fallen lichen
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So the only restore you'd do that'd contain that data is a restore of the Postgres instance itself

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Which won't give you what you're looking for

hushed fern
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😦

fallen lichen
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If you've got pgAdmin or whatever, I'd bet you can dump tables to a csv/tsv or whatever and find a way to import that back to maria

hushed fern
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ok so i need to find another method ... do you know where i can find the script to create the mariadb ?

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yes, i've readed about csv export but I need the new db to be created to reimport the CSV

fallen lichen
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Sure... so just point recorder at your Maria DB instance

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it'll do that

white bane
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HAAAAA

hushed fern
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mmm ok i'll try that method

white bane
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Really it's impossible to work properly with HA, it just crabs impossible to access it even though it tells me it's running

brisk willow
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Wut

white bane
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I even moved it to my TV, the ip didn't move nothing I want to fart a cable

fallen lichen
brisk willow
humble mirage
white bane
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I would like help haha

humble mirage
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Then... rather than ranting into the void... why not try communicating?

hushed fern
white bane
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Because I'm sick of it xD

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I just restarted my box and the raspberry the time

humble mirage
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Ok... in that case I won't bother wasting my time trying to help you

raven forge
fallen lichen
hushed fern
hushed fern
lucid temple
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please helpppppp

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pleaseeeee

humble mirage
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You'll get more help if you link to your previous post

lucid temple
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any help on this please

humble mirage
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you need to link to where you provided information, or provide the information again

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Just saying please help isn't going to help anybody help you

lucid temple
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hi everyone

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i need support getting home assistant on a mac mini late 2012

cobalt quarry
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Installation auf VirtualBox bleibt stehen

royal shuttle
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I know that Ubuntu is NOT officially supported on HA. I'm running HA OS and Ubuntu server for some outside of HA stuff

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Want to merge them

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Does anyone here have or tried running ubuntu unofficially?

humble mirage
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Ubuntu isn't supported for Supervised

royal shuttle
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Is it worth it or should i make the full swap to debian

humble mirage
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Ubuntu + Docker is fine

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Ubuntu + KVM VM for HAOS is fine

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Ubuntu + Supervised ... yeah, not fine

royal shuttle
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dang

humble mirage
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I mean... Supervised is pretty clear about what's supported

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It won't even let you install it on anything other than actual Debian now... thankfully

royal shuttle
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Yeahhhh I just run addons and supervisor so making the switch from HA OS -> HA Supervised was going to be the best option for me

humble mirage
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That's never the best option

royal shuttle
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oh?

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wym

humble mirage
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Unless you actually like pain and suffering

royal shuttle
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I'm an engineer. Of course i do!

humble mirage
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Supervised is fragile, if you don't follow the requirements exactly then it'll break

royal shuttle
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hm

humble mirage
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I mean, you're an engineer, I'm sure you can break it quickly

royal shuttle
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LMFAO

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So

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Would you think keeping my ubuntu with something like a HA OS VM running on it would be the better choice?

humble mirage
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If you want add-ons then HAOS is the only sane way

royal shuttle
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Hmm. Okay okay.

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thanks dude! i'll let you know what ends up happening

left bough
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Hey guys just received my NUC and it has ubuntu pre installed
What's the best way of getting HA on here ?

fallen lichen
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Comfortable w/ Docker? That'd probably be the best route unless you want to set up a virtual machine and put HA OS on there

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If you're fine w/ dedicating the entire NUC to HA... you could just put HA OS on the NUC itself

gleaming flower
hushed fern
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use Raspberry pi Imager it works better

fading fog
gleaming flower
fading fog
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"If it is a compressed image, please check that the archive is not corrupted."

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Did you try to download the image file again?

gleaming flower
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I've run the "install from URL" a few times and gotten the same result. Guess ill try manually downloading the image file

fading fog
gleaming flower
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Yeah, thats the image url I am using

hushed fern
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@gleaming flower try the pi Imager. There is directly an option to install hass inside

fading fog
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So download manually...
Or use the Pi Imager (but its going to download the EXACT same file)

gleaming flower
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Pi Imager appears to be working.

hushed fern
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Hass is located in Other specific OS -> Home assistants -> Home Assistant then choose the 1st one for your pi4

gleaming flower
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Oh I missed that there was an option for that, I just dl the img from the url and did custom file image in Pi Imager. 🙂

hushed fern
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I've stopped using etcher for many years as there were to many time errors in formating

fading fog
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Never seen one error using Etcher 🤷🏼‍♂️

gleaming flower
hushed fern
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@gleaming flower booting in progress ?

gleaming flower
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Thanks for the help 😄

hushed fern
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np

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for a time i can help in stead of requesting 🙂

prisma quartz
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Just figd how this works sorry for DM to those that rcvd I have question Installation of HACOS is the best way to for addons? I have mint linux install of docker and HA up and running am tolsd can't do addons also limited toolbar on HA

fading fog
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You have to install separate containers for the "add-on" you want to use

crude inlet
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@prisma quartz add-ons are customized docker containers. You would not choose add-ons but find the equivalents instead

fading fog
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or install HaOS instead of Minty Fresh

prisma quartz
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😦 saw Utube vid on building container from scratch.. my C is not THAT Good ..what is MIntyFresh?

fading fog
prisma quartz
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I have mint linux

fading fog
prisma quartz
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my docker runs

fading fog
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install Portainer (or an whatever container manager you prefer)

prisma quartz
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ok.. i'll try to get portainer working again

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had problems with Portainer

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Am I on the right track

fading fog
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Should setup HA via Portioner for easier setup between other containers..

prisma quartz
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do I kill docker

fading fog
hushed fern
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I'm using this little script to install and update Portenair if it can help you : ```#!/bin/sh
docker image pull portainer/portainer-ce
docker container stop portainer
docker container rm portainer
docker run -d -p 8000:8000 -p 9000:9000 --name=portainer --restart=always -v /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock -v portainer_data:/portainer_data portainer/portainer-ce

fading fog
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But Portainer is the easiest 🤷🏼‍♂️

prisma quartz
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cheers

tender dock
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I'm running Ubuntu supervised.. but I think 2023.3.2 is finally blocking me from upgrading

prisma quartz
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cheers Just-a-Box Portino finally up Hehe exploring 😆

brisk willow
zenith minnow
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I've been looking around at cheap Thinkcenters to run HA (switching from a PI)

Do I have anything to worry about driver wise for the HUSBZB ZHA / Zwave stick not running on these old thin clients?

fading fog
zenith minnow
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Cool thanks!

tender dock
# brisk willow why not run HA OS or HA Container?

well, it started out this way and has been fine for some years... but I think my current limitation is that I'm running a modified integration that was never really done properly as an add-on (that you could install within HA directly).. and I think HA is blocking the upgrade now because it detects that docker container, which it doesn't know about..

humble mirage
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Integrations and add-ons are very different things

wicked magnet
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Systemd-coredump error

tender dock
humble scaffoldBOT
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#integrations-archived integrate Home Assistant with devices or services, or provide functionality within Home Assistant.

#add-ons-archived provide additional software or services, which an integration could possibility integrate with. Add-ons are for Home Assistant OS and Supervised only, other install methods can install software other ways.

humble mirage
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A modified integration is still an integration

tender dock
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I don't know what you're getting at. You want me to call it an integration, or an add-on? It wasn't something I could install from inside HA. Doesn't solve my issue with not being to upgrade HA now either.

humble mirage
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Well, I want you to call it what it is...

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You've avoided telling us what you're talking about, so all I can do is explain what the terms mean

tender dock
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I told you what it is, I don't know whether it's an integration or an add-on, since it wasn't something I could install in HA directly. The only bridge to HA is via MQTT. The thing I'm running other than that is a docker container that basically bridges between mqtt and the serial communications with the inverter.

humble mirage
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I'm running a modified integration that was never really done properly as an add-on

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That tells us nothing about what it is

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There's a few thousand built in integrations, plus countless custom ones

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Then there's the many hundreds of add-ons

tender dock
humble mirage
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Ok, that's neither an integration or an add-on

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It's closer to an add-on, since it's additional software

tender dock
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That's what I said, it was never done properly as either.

humble mirage
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Well, it can't be done as an integration

tender dock
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But as you've quoted: integrate Home Assistant with devices, and that's sort of what it does.

humble mirage
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Right, but integrations are part of HA ... not other software

tender dock
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Yes, I figure that's sort of in my near future since HA doesn't seem to be letting me upgrade finally.

humble mirage
tender dock
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is there a way to bypass whatever new limitation is in 2023.3.1 or 2 that's blocking me from upgrading to .2?

humble mirage
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I doubt it

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The devs are trying to make it harder and harder to (deliberately or otherwise) run Supervised in an unsupported way

tender dock
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been working fine for years

plucky pine
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Is it better to run HA on a Pi or some sort of other server, I know on a Pi its gonna chew through through the SD card so I would need to install an external HD.

humble mirage
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Not Pi > Pi

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If you must use a Pi, use a powered USB hub and an SSD

plucky pine
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okay so I will just setup a VM on my MacMini instead

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do you have any suggestions of water sensors for leakage detection that are zwave?

humble mirage
plucky pine
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Doesn't Zigbee mess with wifi though?

humble mirage
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Only if you do it wrong, or live in a block of flats

plucky pine
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okay

tender dock
humble mirage
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Yes

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Look under Core

tender dock
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Native App Integration?

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hmm, doesn't look like it

humble mirage
amber kayak
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Hello all, total newbie here. How difficult is it to setup home assistant and build an ipad dashboard for a network camera, denon receiver control and maybe a few wifi switches?

humble mirage
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There's no simple answer to that

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If you're at the skill level of knowing how to turn a computer on and off but nothing more then this will be a steep learning curve

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If you're looking for something that's point-n-click trivial without requiring any reading then this will be a very steep learning curve

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However, if you're open to learning and/or have any background in tinkering with technology then you'll be fine

amber kayak
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Thanks you Tinkerer. Thats helpful. Trying to integrate Denon Receiver app, 1 or 2 Lorex NVR camera feeds, and a few WIFI switches to one dashboard and use an ipad as a wall mount display. Is home assistant what you would recommend from your experience?

humble mirage
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I'm probably the wrong person to ask... I've been pottering around with technology since ... well, it was a long long time ago 😉

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HA is incredibly powerful and flexible, you can almost certainly do what you want

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Whether that'll be easy or not ... that really depends

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  1. Are your WiFi switches even supported
  2. What IT/tech background do you have
  3. Does that NVR support ONVIF or RTSP
amber kayak
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Thanks for the feedback and appreciate the follow-up so to answer your questions:

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I have a combination of a wifi switch for my outdoor lights, and wifi garage door opener by nexx. Now that I remodeled my kitchen, I plan to use some type of tablet to control a new set of wifit switches for the kitchen lights (would make sure they are compatible with HA)

humble mirage
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WiFi devices are often a challenge FYI, or they're Tuya which is worse. If you're buying new then I'd 100% recommend #zigbee-archived or #zwave-archived depending on your budget.

amber kayak
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Don't have much a background but in the past used to do some light html website editing Found myself feeling lost as I am getting older. Can do simple things like link my smart things items but not sure how much beyond that

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checking to see if my NVR offers RTSP and will chat with lorex

humble mirage
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Well, YAML is easier than HTML to learn

amber kayak
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Noted on zwave which is like my smart things hub correct? SO I can theoretically buy smart things switches and they would be easy to integrate with HA? Then you deal with range however correct? Where as my mesh wifi network would be better for these switches?

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I see many people recommend zigbee and zwave also like you from my research

humble mirage
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Well, Z-Wave and Zigbee are mesh networks, range is down to how you build that mesh

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You'll get (about) 6 to 8 meters between routing devices, depending on the house construction

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Z-Wave is limited to 4 hops from the controller, Zigbee has no limit

amber kayak
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Noted

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So what would be your recommendation for light switches in my remodeled kitchen. Need switches and dimmers. Right now I have a smart things hub about 25-30 feet away. Some of the switches could be slightly further

humble mirage
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Zigbee FTW, without the use of the SmartThings hub

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Zigbee is a lot cheaper than Z-Wave, and it's higher bandwidth (so faster)

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You do need to be a little careful in your choices, but #zigbee-archived can help there (TL/DR: Don't buy Tuya if you can help it)

amber kayak
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Oh, thats good to know. I noticed my basement z wave light bulbs have a slight delay when turning on but the range is fart. Noted on Tuya

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Does zigbee need a hub similar to smart things?

humble mirage
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Well, you need a coordinator, like you do for Z-Wave

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That's not a hub though, that's typically a USB stick

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I have a CC2652 based USB stick controlling my 90 odd Zigbee devices

amber kayak
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Got it. Where is that placed?

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Also, smart dimmer switches all need a neutral wire since you have to bring power to it. That does sounds right to you.

humble mirage
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In my case, currently in the upstairs corner of the house, which is the least good position

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Smart dimmers don't need a neutral, though many devices won't be a Zigbee router if they don't have one

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(same for switches)

amber kayak
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Ive seen this sonoff mentioned all over the web. Seems to be popular and a go to for many. This is great info.

humble mirage
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Sonoff's sensors are ... not great, but their other devices seem to be fine

amber kayak
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So I could do that USB stick and a series of sonoffs dimmer switches

humble mirage
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Yes, though:

  1. That's a switch, not a dimmer
  2. You'll need some Zigbee routers
amber kayak
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So the zigbee router is needed for dimmer switches?

humble mirage
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Zigbee routers are needed for a Zigbee mesh

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Without them things have to try to reach the coordinator directly, which doesn't usually work

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There's some pins in #zigbee-archived that explain what the mesh is, and how it works, but the TL/DR is that a mesh has one coordinator (the brains), multiple routers (relay traffic for devices), and then some end devices (don't relay traffic)

tender dock
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I haven't had any issues with my TPLink/Kasa wifi switches

amber kayak
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Ive seen Kasa as another highly recommended switch also.

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Some of these switches have a large footprint so wonder if that would be tough to install in place of existing? Also, kasa is a wifi switch, so no zigbee? And in your opinion probably not as responsive?

tender dock
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I've had no issues with response. I've got about a dozen in total, switches, plugs, etc., and they've all been solid.

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A couple of them are even used outdoors to control my landscape lighting.

amber kayak
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Got it. No hub or usb required correct? Just connect to home network?

tender dock
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The kasa plugs/switches also allow local control, not sure if the HA integration uses it or not, but there's some python cli code if you google for it that can be used to control them.

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Yes, just wifi.

amber kayak
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Noted on HA integration

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Not sure if they offer a dimmer switch but will check. I see regular single pole switch

tender dock
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actually, for my switches, I'm about to replace them with NSPanels, just for a little additional functionality.

amber kayak
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saw that. Is that to control multiple areas. Saw it was a touchscreen

tender dock
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I plan on putting them in my bathrooms which basically right now are controlled with a single switch for lights and exhaust fan. The NSPanels will give me two separate switches to control them individually, and the screen showing additional info is a bonus too. I also have a tankless water heater, and I'll be able to trigger recirculation to start when they're on, so hot water comes sooner.

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I mean, I can trigger the tankless with the single kasa switch now too, but I can show on the screen when it's actually running and heating up.

amber kayak
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Very cool

tender dock
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If you're interested in the NSPanels, you can find them fairly cheap from Walmart

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< $40 each for the black ones and $50 each for the white ones

tender dock
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Error updating Home Assistant Core 'HomeAssistantCore.update' blocked from execution, system is not healthy - privileged What's the exact problem this is complaining about?

humble mirage
tender dock
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Everything is updated, already ran that script.

# 
Listing... Done
apparmor/jammy-updates,now 3.0.4-2ubuntu2.1 arm64 [installed]
curl/jammy-updates,jammy-security,now 7.81.0-1ubuntu1.8 arm64 [installed]
dbus/jammy-updates,jammy-security,now 1.12.20-2ubuntu4.1 arm64 [installed]
homeassistant-supervised/now 1.3.1 all [installed,local]
jq/jammy,now 1.6-2.1ubuntu3 arm64 [installed]
libglib2.0-bin/jammy-updates,now 2.72.4-0ubuntu1 arm64 [installed]
lsb-release/jammy,now 11.1.0ubuntu4 all [installed,automatic]
network-manager/jammy-updates,now 1.36.6-0ubuntu2 arm64 [installed]
systemd-journal-remote/jammy-updates,jammy-security,now 249.11-0ubuntu3.7 arm64 [installed]
udisks2/jammy,now 2.9.4-1ubuntu2 arm64 [installed]
wget/jammy,now 1.21.2-2ubuntu1 arm64 [installed]```
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Hit:1 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports jammy InRelease
Hit:2 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports jammy-updates InRelease
Hit:3 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports jammy-backports InRelease
Hit:4 http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports jammy-security InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.```
prisma quartz
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hi anybody I have linux Vm homeassistant installed VB is running home assistant settings page I can't open home assistant in laptop local ip +8123

humble mirage
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It won't be the laptop's IP but the IP of the VM

prisma quartz
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ok

manic bane
tender dock
manic bane
brisk willow
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TIL we decided it's unhealthy 😂

manic bane
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Its all your fault tediore 😂

tender dock
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It didn't break though

manic bane
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But now it has

tender dock
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Not really, it was just deemed unhealthy. Nothing broke with it.

manic bane
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And supervised when not running within the set of requirements can just break

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And updating all packages without thinking and running Ubuntu can do that

tender dock
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then perhaps it should specify which versions of which packages it wants?

grand pivot
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the requirements are listed

tender dock
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where?

grand pivot
manic bane
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The thing you're meant to read before installing supervised

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And what you have to keep on top of

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What is your use case that you want supervised for anyway

tender dock
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It's been a couple of years since I installed supervised, but I don't remember this being deemed "unhealthy" or seeing any errors or warnings.

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All the packages there are >= some version

manic bane
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Unhealthy doesn't always appear immediately

tender dock
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My use case was.. I had this raspberry pi with ubuntu on it, and thought oh, I'll give HA a try

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and it installed, and it worked

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and everything was dandy

manic bane
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Why not use docker container instead

tender dock
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then, suddenly, after some upgrades, this and that is suddenly unhealthy

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I dunno.. I mean, many parts of it do seem to be in docker containers..

manic bane
manic bane
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Especially when an add on is just a fancy docker container anyway

tender dock
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isn't it already running in docker?

manic bane
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It is. Except supervised means there's extra hassle for you

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Either do HAOS directly on the pi (even less hands on)
Or container (less issues but you have full control of the OS)

tender dock
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how do I convert to container? since it seems to be in a container already...

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I mean, I don't really understand the difference between supervised and container.. I followed whatever instructions there were years ago and installed it via docker

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I thought it was either HAOS or supervised/container (them being synonymous)

brisk willow
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Supervised is essentially HA OS but with the OS of your choice Debian instead of HA OS. It includes a series of containers including the Supervisor container which manages the host system and other features like snapshots (now called backups) and the add-on store

tender dock
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So isn't that what I want?

brisk willow
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HA Container is just home assistant core running in a container without all of the other containers involved with HA OS and Supervised (and without the requirements of Supervised). It also doesn't have the supervisor features, but add-ons are just other containers that you could manually install yourself, and there are other ways you can set up backups

brisk willow
tender dock
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but you just said with Supervised, I could run the OS of my choice?

brisk willow
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Yes, but to not end up with an unsupported installation, you can only use it for home assistant

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That means no other things installed on the host other than the requirements and stuff from the add-on store

tender dock
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it almost is entirely HA, except for one container for a not-really-proper-addon

brisk willow
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Unfortunately the requirements don't say "almost entirely for HA"

tender dock
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but it's just a container, so why should it matter to any other container that is part of HA?

manic bane
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Because it can and has broken HA before

tender dock
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this hasn't

brisk willow
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Because the Supervisor expects to have full control over the host, and it doesn't if you install stuff outside of the HA ecosystem

brisk willow
tender dock
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you say I can run Supervised with any OS I want, but send a link saying it has to be Debian and no derivatives, and nothing else on the OS can be anything other than HA stuff... so what's the point?

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but if I run it without the Supervisor.. in a container.. which it already is... I lose addons?

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that's kind of important..

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It sounds like it just has to be HAOS and nothing else..

brisk willow
brisk willow
tender dock
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but if it's strictly Debian, and the stuff on it has to be strictly HA stuff, then what's the point of that?

brisk willow
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Exactly

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Now you understand 😄

tender dock
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exactly what? why even list it as an option if it gains no flexibility?

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I don't understand. This wasn't a problem when I first installed HA.

brisk willow
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IIRC it was created back when HA OS had very little support on machines other than the raspberry pi

tender dock
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but now you guys don't like the output of lsb_release -i, so it's unhealthy

brisk willow
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Now, HA OS has much wider support of other platforms

tender dock
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you don't like the output of docker ps, so it's unhealthy

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but nothing there actually breaks HA

manic bane
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Also don't call us you guys. Tediore and myself aren't developers, this is all volunteer support

tender dock
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well, I mean, HA guys, and I'm on an HA discord, and you're a mod... so..

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take it as a generality

manic bane
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Its unhealthy because some things can break
It also highlights for people who aren't sure if requirements

manic bane
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Mods have the mod role

tender dock
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oh, thought colored meant mod

tender dock
brisk willow
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🔁

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There's no way around it. The decision has been made by the powers that be

tender dock
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yeah, HA guys deem something that isn't exactly what they want to see, especially when it was acceptable before, and suddenly it's unhealthy, and "can break", so it's blocked

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sigh I guess that just clarifies HAOS is what I need to move this to and separate that one container..

brisk willow
tender dock
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or maybe I should just keep running ha job options --ignore-something healthy to get around these blocks lol

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I installed this on a rpi4 shortly after it came out.. so probably 2019..

timid narwhal
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how long does a usual full backup restoration take to complete?

humble mirage
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Depends on the size of the backup and the speed of your storage (SD cards are painfully slow)

sonic mulch
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Hi I have a question My HA is doing very strange from the beginning of installation.

I have a loop in my filesystem looks like i have a symbolic link loop

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it's a RPi 4

raven forge
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What's the question? What makes you think that?

young wing
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Greetings

brisk willow
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Felicitations

sonic mulch
sonic mulch
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It is hassos on a pi btw

main iris
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Installing PyNaCl on the RPI4 is painfully slow

timid narwhal
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When I try to boot home haos, on my rapsberry pi. It has some problems in setup. Some errors include: Logger: homeassistant.setup
Source: setup.py:213
First occurred: 14:29:16 (2 occurrences)
Last logged: 14:29:29

Setup failed for radio_browser: Unable to import component: No module named 'pycares'
Setup failed for cast: Unable to import component: No module named 'pychromecast' Logger: homeassistant.setup
Source: setup.py:344
First occurred: 14:29:30 (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 14:29:30

Unable to prepare setup for platform sonos.media_player: Platform not found (Exception importing homeassistant.components.sonos.media_player).

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This comes after rebooting my home assistant without doing any changes to it.

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I'm unable to play any media on Sonos through home assistant and I can't use radiobrowser or chromecast

strange hazel
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Hello, i have a big problem, i cant start my HA anymore, i have this message : Error: System is not ready with state: setup, i use virsh with the HA images

raven forge
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Can you share more logs?

strange hazel
humble scaffoldBOT
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@strange hazel I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
timid narwhal
strange hazel
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😭

raven forge
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Corruption maybe

strange hazel
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Ha image or Host server?

raven forge
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Storage medium so kinda both

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What hardware are you hosting this on? It might as well be a hardware issue that caused this

strange hazel
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ubuntu

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kvm

raven forge
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That's software

strange hazel
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geekom mini air 11

raven forge
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On the hardware side you can do a mem test and check smart values of the storage. I guess it could've also happened due to a bad shutdown of the VM or similar

strange hazel
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smart show nothing

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i will test the memetest

opal frost
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move datastorage to a new disk in a HAOS VM

still sail
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Hey!
Does anybody knows where I could find old Home assistant OS that I can install on Raspberry Pi 1?
I've read something about Hassbian being a thing on that device, and scripts to produce the iso, but I couldn't find the docs to use them.
My needs would be covered with 0.7.2 (2015)

humble mirage
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Hassbian isn't HAOS

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Expect the install and first start to take most of a day, upgrades will also take many many hours.

still sail
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Is there a way to disable stuff I won't use to keep it smooth?

humble mirage
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Nope

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A Pi1 was a terrible choice 3+ years ago, it's only got worse with age

fiery cradle
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Which release is recommended for a Pi2?

humble mirage
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None either

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There is still a Pi2 version for HAOS, but do yourself a favour and just don't

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Just about any second hand PC/laptop from the last decade will be a huge improvement

fiery cradle
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Thanks. Just working with what I have atm, but will definitely pick up a newer Pi.

humble mirage
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Eh... Pis are for people who want problems, or have money to burn

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Just about any second hand PC/laptop from the last decade will be a huge improvement

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The price of a Pi4, plus powered USB hub, plus SSD... all adds up

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A laptop with a busted display can often be picked up for very little

tender dock
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rpi4s in a flirc case will easily overclock to 2.1-2.2 ghz, and that runs HA very well in my experience.

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But if that's the attitude towards Pis, maybe remove it from the documentation and say it's not supported?

humble mirage
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It's supported... that's fine

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Doesn't make it a good choice if you're buying new for HA

tender dock
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why would it be supported if it's not a good choice?

humble mirage
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Because many people already have a Pi?

tender dock
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they haven't been too easy to get in the past few years.. and HA sells devices that are basically in the same performance ballpark

humble mirage
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If it's all you have, taking into account that SD cards suck, why would you want to cut off all those people

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Also, the CM approach is ... not awesome, but fine

tender dock
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SD cards suck, nothing should be installed on SD cards if you want it to run for years and be problem free.

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But Pis aren't limited to SD cards.

humble mirage
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No, but anything older than a Pi4 isn't going to run well, given the limitations of the USB bus

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And, frankly, most people think an SD card is fine

tender dock
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I'm not advocating for running HA on anything older than a Pi4

tender dock
viscid linden
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I'm trying to get HA up and running using docker, but i'm running into a weird issue
If i run the container using bridge mode i can connect to the container just fine, it also shows up as expected when listing the ports in use.

rootlessk  842 holst   15u  IPv4  33997      0t0  TCP *:8123 (LISTEN)
rootlessk  842 holst   17u  IPv6  34001      0t0  TCP *:8123 (LISTEN)

However, when i switch to using network_mode: host i can no longer connect the the HA UI, and the ports aren't listed as listening.
It's a fresh install on a raspberry pi 4, the only thing i've installed is docker + apt upgrade.

brisk willow
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Anything in the logs?

raven forge
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I'd check ufw

humble scaffoldBOT
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@viscid linden I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
timid narwhal
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Also what is typically better to do when using a rapsberry pi 4. Running a home assistant on a docker or installing home assistant operating system? I've been getting a lot of corruption issues with haos.

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I'm using an SSD for the storage device instead of an sd card aswell

copper steppe
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What kind of corruption issue?

void shadow
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is it possible to get a ISO of home assistant, I want to bare metal HASS on an old HP laptop 4GB ram

brisk willow
void shadow
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I got it running, Can I get it on the actual hard drive so I can remove the USB drive

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hard drive is soldered on

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just fyi

brisk willow
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There are steps for just that on that page

timid narwhal
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im not sure exactly what kind of corruption but ive had it 3 separate times where ive been unable to boot into the supervisor during the startup process and ive had to reflash my ssd and restore from a backup

copper steppe
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Hmm no idea. I never had that. Is the error consistent? Could it be one of your addons or integrations?

elder hamlet
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Hello. What is the best place to get help with HAOS installation? Installers keeps restarting and i have output from UART, but dont know where is the best place to ask for help

humble mirage
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In this channel

elder hamlet
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can i post output right here ?

manic bane
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Use a website to post logs

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

elder hamlet
white bane
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I wanted to make a restoration except that nothing works anymore, the ha is slow it does not make any more maj, I have more access to the files what to do?

# 
in "/config/themes/minimalist-desktop/minimalist-desktop.yaml", line 28, column 7
expected <block end>, but found '<scalar>'
in "/config/themes/minimalist-desktop/minimalist-desktop.yaml", line 63, column 31
2023-03-12 17:00:41.380 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.bootstrap] Failed to parse configuration.yaml: while parsing a block mapping
in "/config/themes/minimalist-desktop/minimalist-desktop.yaml", line 28, column 7
expected <block end>, but found '<scalar>'
in "/config/themes/minimalist-desktop/minimalist-desktop.yaml", line 63, column 31. Activating safe mode
2023-03-12 17:00:59.288 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setup of hassio is taking over 10 seconds.
2023-03-12 17:00:59.438 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http.ban] Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from hdi06-1_migr-88-173-12-246.fbx.proxad.net (88.173.12.246). Requested URL: '/api/websocket'. (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/110.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Edg/110.0.1587.69)```
proper peak
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I'm still locked out home assistant from this morning after update core and I haven't understood yet why; I suspect this is something related to https or encriptation certificate?
I followed many months ago this tut https://youtu.be/AK5E2T5tWyM (Home Assistant Remote Access for FREE - DuckDNS + LetsEncrypt + Single URL) and never had a glitch accessing this.

What did I already verified?
I see the duckdns is still pointing to my correct wan IP. Last change 1 month ago
I see the router port forwarding is working. I get a "connection refused" error and if I disable the port forward I get "connection timed out".
Accessing it with the lan ip adress, also gives connection refused.

From what I remember I only access HA with one url. I can confirm this by looking in the phone app, where I see https://my-dns:8123/ in the field "Home Assistant URL" and the field "Internal Connection URL" says "not set"

How can I use the HA CLI to reset all this and be allowed to log in again?
Any ideas? I'm getting desperate not being able to use some stuff. This evening I will need to open the TRM valves in the heating from the rooms, and for the look of this I won't be able.

I have automatic full backups 3 or 4 times per week. Can the backup be restore from the CLI ?

WELPPPP!!!

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samba is still working

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was able to retrieve the home-assistant.log

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Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/helpers/entity.py", line 961, in async_request_call
await coro
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/helpers/service.py", line 726, in _handle_entity_call
await result
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/update/init.py", line 156, in async_install
await entity.async_install_with_progress(version, backup)
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/update/init.py", line 417, in async_install_with_progress
await self.async_install(version, backup)
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/hassio/update.py", line 305, in async_install
raise HomeAssistantError(
homeassistant.exceptions.HomeAssistantError: Error updating Home Assistant Core
2023-03-12 10:32:06.238 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant] Error doing job: _GatheringFuture exception was never retrieved
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/asyncio/tasks.py", line 605, in sleep
return await future
asyncio.exceptions.CancelledError

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error updating home assistant core

proper peak
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I'm up and running
backups restore (slug) did the job
thank you all for the input

normal hazel
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Hello, Ever since updating to 2023.3 my home assistant runs out of memory and crashes before finishing start up. I was running an Odroid HC2 with 2 GB ram. I made a back up and did a fresh install and restore onto a Odroid N2+ with 4 GB of ram I had laying around. The problem persists. going into the terminal and checking with TOP the memory usage is all coming from home assistant core, and not an add on. I ran the service profiler.memory, and made a heap file, but I'm not sure how to interpret it. Could someone lend me a hand?

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This is a HassOS installation

humble mirage
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What add-ons are you running?

normal hazel
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Normally: Matter Server, Chrony, File editor, NUT, Vaultwarden, Z-wave JS UI, Mosquitto broker, Silabs multi protocol, MariaDB.

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However, I tried plugging in a kb and monitor, and stopping them all them all from the cli. The problem persisted

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Top shows python3 homeassistant -core using basically all of the ram before it crashes

humble mirage
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Not install related...

normal hazel
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Yes, i've tried disabling them to no avail. It's hard to be sure they have been disabled between crashes though. Is there a sure fire way to do that?

humble mirage
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You have to remove them from config/custom_components/

normal hazel
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I will try renaming the directory

humble mirage
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You'd have to rename custom_components/

normal hazel
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I renamed it, and got a notification that those integrations could not load.

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still ran out of memory.

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Seemed like memory use was climbing while I was notified that zha starting. trying to disable that

crimson gorge
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Hi, I just migrated my Home Assistant from a container to a VM (and it was shockingly easy) however I'm having an issue with the Let's Encrypt add on.

I was able to successfully generate the certificate but I'm getting an ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR error when I try to connect to my instance using https.

I updated my confguration.yaml to this:

http: ssl_certificate: /mnt/data/supervisor/addons/data/core_letsencrypt/letsencrypt/live/<MY DOMAIN HERE>/fullchain.pem ssl_key: /mnt/data/supervisor/addons/data/core_letsencrypt/letsencrypt/live/<MY DOMAIN HERE>/privkey.pem

... but got this:

Invalid config for [http]: not a file for dictionary value @ data['http']['ssl_certificate']. Got '/mnt/data/supervisor/addons/data/core_letsencrypt/letsencrypt/live/<MY DOMAIN NAME>/fullchain.pem' not a file for dictionary value @ data['http']['ssl_key']. Got '/mnt/data/supervisor/addons/data/core_letsencrypt/letsencrypt/live/<MY DOMAIN NAME>/privkey.pem'. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 4).

humble mirage
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Yeah... you use the path inside the container

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Which should be /ssl/

normal hazel
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disabling zha did not work. home assistant still runs out of memory

humble mirage
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http:
  ssl_certificate: /ssl/fullchain.pem
  ssl_key: /ssl/privkey.pem
crimson gorge
normal hazel
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is there a way to force home assistant into safemode?

normal hazel
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my ISP started issuing IPv6 addresses around the same time. Could this have anything to do with that?

normal hazel
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ipv6 seems to be the culprit.

tender dock
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I'm dual stacked with ipv6, but my total memory use is under 1.4gb

normal hazel
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There must be something wrong with my set up then, but disabling ipv6 is the only thing that seems to have worked

manic bane
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IPv6 can be dodgy on HAOS

tender dock
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can ha os import be made to work with a supplied authorized_keys file instead of actually requiring it to be on a usb key?

humble scaffoldBOT
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@stone hill I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
manic bane
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@stone hill recommend not installing supervised and using HAOS if that's what you want

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Could well be part of the issue

stone hill
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Okay... one recommended it to me however straight so on the discord server of smarthome youreself...

That means I should reinstall it again ...?!

And do I then still get all my devices incorporated, such as sonoff, tuya and smartlife...?!

manic bane
# stone hill Okay... one recommended it to me however straight so on the discord server of sm...

I have no clue what server that is

But yes, supervised is for experts in linux and docker and networking. If you don't run the requirements exactly things can and will break

HAOS is identical to supervised except you do not have to manage the underlying Operating System yourself. If you take a full backup in your current install and restore it to HAOS it should all be there (or you can do it all manually either)

stone hill
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👌 thank you for the quick feedback.... I'll link the answer and get back to the German language channel with it....

I'm using a HP ThinClinet t630 with 64GB M.2 SSD and 6 GB RAM...

In case of further problems, I'll be happy to come back to you...

stone hill
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Wich one do you prefere...?!

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Do you have a link...

manic bane
stone hill
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Okay thanks a lot @manic bane

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But is hacks there Running..?!

manic bane
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What?

stone hill
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HACS...

placid sage
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I have a Synology with Docker setup along with portainer adn a Home Assistant set up. Re-installed everything to have supervisor utilities and now I am having Network issues "Network Manager, inactive or badly configured" Also, trying to set up KNX Integration and I cannot seeam to connect to the KNX server

stone hill
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The same like me..@placid sage 🤬💩

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The same network problems...

manic bane
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Yes you can install HACS on HAOS

timber flame
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I'm attempting to transfer my docker config from one machine to the other. I've rsync'd the config dir over to the new host and fire up the docker-compose, everything seems to be fine but I cannot log in with the regular user

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but would like to know why

manic bane
timber flame
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I think that's it, the auth file is owned by root. wonder what the command to rsync root owned files

timber flame
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rysnc the opposite way sorted that

raven forge
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Did you use the root user from the opposite site?

timber flame
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I did

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rather than run the command on the new machine

celest quartz
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hey all, im thinking of signing up for Google's Advanced Protection program. Does anybody know if this will break all my HA-Google integrations (i.e. nest, nabu casa (google assistant), sheets, imap, calendar etc.) . My concern is this paragraph here:
Limit data access and sharing: Third-party apps will no longer have access to Gmail or Drive, with email only available through Gmail or Inbox clients. Due to iOS apps not supporting Security Keys, Google notes that the Apple Mail, Contacts, and Calendar apps will not work, with users being forwarded to the first-party apps on iOS. Meanwhile, Google services that require a sign-in, like Photos, will only be available through Chrome.

stone hill
dull blade
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Can someone help me im trying to migrate from a raspberry pi 4 to a mini pc with a m.2 ssd. Im using Home Assistant OS and i want to migrate to the x86 mini pc with the same OS. What is the best way to do this, can i use a m.2 ssd adapter to transfer all the config files or do i use a fullbackup snapshot ?

humble mirage
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Take the backup, download it, restore it to the new install

dull blade
undone pulsar
dawn pumice
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Is there any performance/efficiency difference between running HA OS and using a different linux distro with HA container?

upper crescent
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my HA Supervised installation is hanging on the Restarting NetworkManager step... getting really frustrated as I've been doing clean/fresh installs and trying to keep it neat, but attempts to fix this bug muddy up my hard drive, eh.

Bug report: https://github.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer/issues/273 solution there did not solve it for me

manic bane
empty bloom
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That bug report will be closed/ignored

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Supervised is only tested/supported on debian

upper crescent
empty bloom
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Have you re-ran the installation script? That usually fixes issues. Also, there's a thread on the forums for supervised users that covers the past ~2 years of updates

upper crescent
humble mirage
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HACS exists for all install methods

manic bane
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If you're running other programs or containers on supervised that's also not supported. It has the same limitations of HAOS

humble mirage
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The only reason to run Supervised is if you want add-ons, have hardware without UEFI support, and have the skills required to manage Debian precisely

empty bloom
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The only reason to run supervised is if you're doing some goofy things with the OS

manic bane
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Supervised is more of a HAOS but more effort
Not a HAOS with freedom

upper crescent
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home bridge, for one. i know that HA espouses full integration with homebridge now but it doesn't work the same or as well as, mostly

empty bloom
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even then, with the ssh + terminal addon w/ hassos, you can pretty much do what you want to the host OS

empty bloom
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homebridge works fine with or without supervised

manic bane
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If it's the ability to install stuff outside of add ons that's not supported on supervised

empty bloom
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I run it on both my dev box and my production box

upper crescent
empty bloom
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you can run all of that in hassos

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you can run all of that in container as well

manic bane
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Or run container install and run any container you want

humble mirage
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Running that in Supervised and not using add-ons will lead to problems

upper crescent
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as in, HA supervised in a container alongside the applications i mentioned also running in containers will cause the problems?

humble mirage
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Yes

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You did read the requirements for Supervised?

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Spoiler... we know you either didn't, or you decided they don't matter 😛

upper crescent
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yes and have had it running prior

humble mirage
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No additional software, outside of the Home Assistant ecosystem, is installed.

empty bloom
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it's 100% pointless to run supervised at this time because the supervisor locks everything down as if it was hassos

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I'm running it at the moment, but I'll be switching to hassos this weekend when I remove frigate

upper crescent
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i did see that, just figured it was the product of the denialism of this option that permeates through those that oversee/support HA

empty bloom
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well that's what it is, but if you run into issues like this, you're on your own

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basically, no one wants to support supervised users, they are expected to support themselves

manic bane
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The denialism is because supervised is identical to HAOS just you manage the OS and everything else

upper crescent
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the issue i'm running into, tho, is not related to my unsupported set up tho — at least, AFAIK. NetworkManager.

humble mirage
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Keep in mind that there's many cases you can get into where HA stops, the Supervisor refuses to allow updates, or the whole systems just fails

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Either switch to HAOS, or switch to Container

manic bane
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If the system is already broken worth just installing HAOS and trying it out
Or just doing container

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Since supervised does assume you're a docker expert along with a Linux and networking expert too

upper crescent
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i recognize my resistance to HAOS is borne of my original desire to attach a hard drive to create a NAS share, but i recently picked up a NAS so that no longer holds water.

I wouldn't choose HA given free choice but it has exclusives like the abovementioned emporia vue, plus there was some ESPhome dongles I bought to control my MRCOOL units that only had community activity for HA

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i wouldn't call myself a docker expert, but i am a fan of Portainer, realize you can google anything, and nowadays I've been getting pretty on point advice from ChatGPT

humble mirage
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Then... you shouldn't be running Supervised

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Hell, I know my way around Linux admin, networking, and have not a small amount of Docker experience. I wouldn't touch Supervised with any length of pole

upper crescent
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it does rub me the wrong way that there is so much energy dedicated to shooing people away from supervised when it seems to answer what they're seeking — like @humble mirage I saw an earlier chat from you above to someone who asked if it was possible to run supervised in a container, and you flat out said no. not no it's not supported or etc, just straight up no. one aspect of homebridge and "hacking" (for lack of a better word) that appeals to me is relinquishing the choice and freedom to do with my tech what I please, and yeah the denialism runs against that

humble mirage
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If you want freedom, run Container

empty bloom
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I run supervised myself and if you want freedom you should run container

humble mirage
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The reason we put so much energy into "shooing" people away from supervised is because it's a brittle clusterfuck

empty bloom
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there are no benefits to running supervised at all anymore

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beginners come in here with the idea of running supervised because they read a 4 year old blog

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they should be shooed away from supervised as it's not for beginners

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every day we get people in here who should not be running supervised

humble mirage
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I've seen plenty of people with broken installs, because they didn't follow the requirements, because they ran some other software, because they did follow the requirements but didn't keep up to date, and more

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I wish the devs would kill it off properly

empty bloom
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It's still 6% of installs

manic bane
upper crescent
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when i've had supervised running in docker/portainer, it spreads out over about six or seven containers

humble mirage
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Yeah, and:

  1. The Supervisor is a Docker manager, which runs a bunch of containers
  2. Portainer + Supervisor == boom
manic bane
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You are welcome to use supervised. But we're recommending not to use it because you will have pain

empty bloom
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and portainer blocks supervisor from updating

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FYI

upper crescent
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that's fair and i appreciate your responses/energy, don't get me wrong

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it's just sometimes hard to see the equivalent options that are lauded instead

manic bane
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HAOS is supervised. Supervised has same restrictions as HAOS except more ability to break your install

Container is the most flexible (and why I went with it)

upper crescent
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so looking at install options (i took a screen shot but this chat doesn't seem to allow images) 'container' unequviocally says no supervisor, no add ons. like i mentioned, i use HA to read the energy consumption from my Emporia Vue. that calls for HACS, which is an add on... right?

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the question is not so much the categorization of HACS, moreso how i can run this

humble mirage
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HACS is an integration (ish)

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add-ons are other software

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The thing you linked is a custom component (aka integration), it will work with any install method

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The simplest way to install this integration

brisk willow
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Also, add-ons are just pieces of software you can install manually

upper crescent
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so the options on HACS are what people suggest are generally available to run as their own containers, separate to HA — yes Tediore, that's what I'm asking

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🙂

humble mirage
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No

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HACS is for integrations not add-ons

humble scaffoldBOT
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#integrations-archived integrate Home Assistant with devices or services, or provide functionality within Home Assistant.

#add-ons-archived provide additional software or services, which an integration could possibility integrate with. Add-ons are for Home Assistant OS and Supervised only, other install methods can install software other ways.

humble mirage
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HACS's FAQ even says no add-ons here

tall flame
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Hello, I have updated my HA (installed on a raspberry pi) to 2023.3.3 and since then I cannot access the GUI (port 8123). Connecting to cli everything works fine, core check is not showing any issue and the docker containers are running. Today I have upgraded to 2023.03.04 and I cannot access the web. Also restored from the latest backup, no change. I tried: curl -o - https://version.home-assistant.io/update-supervisor.txt | sh and no change on the supervisor, logs on the supervisor are fine as well. Can anyone help me to troubleshoot the issue? 🙂

upper crescent
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@tall flame i think I exhausted them when it comes to supervised install on docker earlier lol scroll up... if anyone with authority/knowledge was here they would ask why you think you need supervisor

glass sage
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I'm having an issue with updating my HA
#general-archived message
I'm getting
homeassistant.exceptions.HomeAssistantError: Error updating Home Assistant Operating System: 'OSManager.update' blocked from execution, system is not running - CoreState.STARTUP
I've tried a few things but nothing seems to resolve it

tall flame
upper crescent
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@tall flame fwiw when i was attempting the same, i would watch the cli and NetworkManager always hung the install. think the cause is due to connection over wifi, if that's relevant — just spitballing my experience, not a solution

tall flame
tall flame
humble mirage
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Supervised is not fine

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These things are different

upper crescent
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oh i didn't see it was HA OS my bad, just saw the docker mention and made a leap

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i'm gonna show myself out now anyways, cheers for all your help everyone

rustic sable
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hello everyone, i have a problem with the supervisor( error says hassio) , the supervisor doesn't want to start anymore. the addons are still running somehow in the background, but everything is a bit buggy. is there any way to fix this?

humble mirage
narrow pagoda
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I have installed hassio on a raspberry pi, the installation is on an ssd in an enclosure, this instance has been running for over 6 months until the latest update. I reinstalled everything, and it worked until I got the latest update again. I just put the ssd on a powered hub and have the same issue. I have some journal files if they would be useful as well. The boot routine is stuck in a loop and hassio never starts.

empty bloom
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you mean hassos? hassio is long gone at this point

raven forge
empty bloom
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because supervisor looks for it and blocks the update

rustic sable
empty bloom
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I was replying to watts

raven forge
empty bloom
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Yep, can’t have average Joe mucking with the containers

tender dock
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Average Joe doesn't touch the containers. Supervisor is just being a bitch.

empty bloom
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But you can with portainer

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You can also turn off that check

narrow pagoda
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how would I revert supervisor after I already made the update?

empty bloom
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That reply was for impact

narrow pagoda
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all right all I have are journal files, who can look at them to tell me what is happening? I think my issue started at 3pm CST 3/10

empty bloom
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Still need to know what install method you’re using

narrow pagoda
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Raspberry Pi Imager

empty bloom
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You said hassio, which hasn’t existed for ~3 years

coral sequoia
#

Hi someone help me how change size of Proxmox Disk for HA VM?

humble mirage
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Depends on what you're restoring to - SD card, SSD, etc

raven forge
coral sequoia
raven forge
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Don't do that. They are used for different things. You should research learn why there's two

coral sequoia
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automatically made two

raven forge
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That's intentional

coral sequoia
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whats the difference local and local-pvm?

raven forge
coral sequoia
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thx

robust quarry
#

Can anyone help me here, I receive that message when trying to install my first add-on:

Can’t install homeassistant/aarch64-addon-duckdns:1.15.0: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=1.15.0&fromImage=homeassistant%2Faarch64-addon-duckdns&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error (“Get “https://registry-1.docker.io/v2/”: net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)”)

gritty linden
raven forge
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Maybe you can connect a monitor

gritty linden
peak merlin
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im trying to use etcher to put homeassitant os onto a micro sd card so i can use it to run on my raspberry pi 3 but every tie i try to do it it throws out the error and says flash failed.

gui.js:37 Error: Error invoking remote method 'disable-screensaver': No handler registered for 'disable-screensaver

and when checking the disk management to see whats happend to the drive it says that the sd card has 29gb unallocated and only 32mb fat hassos-boot. Any help here?

raven forge
raven forge
ripe harness
peak merlin
ripe harness
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Choose OS > Other specific-purpose OS > Home Assistants > Home Assistant

peak merlin
humble mirage
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Failing SD card?

peak merlin
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bought it yesterday?

humble mirage
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Doesn't mean it's not failing already

peak merlin
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yeah but it would be wierd

empty bloom
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well not being able to write to a card is also weird as it formats & writes the data

humble mirage
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Could be a faulty adapter

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Could be a bad cable connecting the adapter

empty bloom
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if that's failing, it's the card or anything between the card and the pc

empty bloom
peak merlin
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i have another that i know 100% works

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should i try that?

empty bloom
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if you don't care about the data on it, sure

peak merlin
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alrighty ill try it now

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still doesnt work with the working adapter

empty bloom
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then try a different card

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hell you can just try to format the card in windows or whatever OS you're using

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if you can't format the card, then you can't write to it

gritty linden
peak merlin
peak merlin
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just because i bought this sd card

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should be good?

humble mirage
#

Well, it's probably not utter shite, but ...

peak merlin
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should work or?

humble mirage
#

You really want an endurance type card, for a long write life

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That's just fast, which isn't really helpful

peak merlin
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eh amazon has a great refund policy

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i just want one so i can test

humble mirage
#

WD Purple or Samsung Endurance are better choices

peak merlin
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not permanent

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just so i can setup home assistant and modify it this sd card will then be used in my 3d printer should be good for setting up home assistant though?

humble mirage
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Should, yes

peak merlin
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if it doesnt work ill just get a refund get a mich better one

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ty for the help though weird issue to have after just buying it

humble mirage
#

I suspect your problem is the adapter, or its connection to your computer

stone vault
#

Not sure the right channel, but I'm trying to have apache reverse proxy to HASS since apache is what's currently exposed to the network. It's on a different system. When I navigate to the URL it opens the page for a different virtual host

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@stone vault I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
peak merlin
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ill wait to get the new one and try it

misty wadi
#

hi team - would love some HA help.
I'm using a VM with the official image.

I've got 2 VLANs on my network, so have tried (and failed) to configure HA to use them.
VLAN 1 is for general traffic, and is on the .0.0/24 network, and the homeassistant GUI is visible at 0.100. HA has ENP0S19 on this interface via DHCP.
VLAN 30 is for the IOT network, and is on the .30.0/24 network, along with IOT devices. HA has ENP0S18 on this interface via DHCP.

I have 3x Tasmota switches which I'm trying to configure via MQTT, and which cannot detect the broker since moving into the VLAN configuration (from just everything being together). They were working fine before.

I think that I've troubleshot the issue down to DNS - from the HA CLI I can ping 192.168.0.42 (the Proxmox server the HA VM is on), and 192.168.0.2 (the OpnSense router that provides DHCP and DNS) and also the Tasmota device on 192.168.30.100 and the 192.168.30.1 OpnSense interface. However, I cannot ping www.bbc.co.uk.

I'm pretty sure I've set up the Switches and the HA side of the MQTT things correctly - and they were working before - but viewing the console for the switches is currently giving 'cannot connect -rc 2' - which appears to be a network error.

Would love any insight!

exotic apex
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hi everyone, I'm moving from HAOS in a VM to a Docker-Core installation, and I'm having some trouble with the Caddy Reverse Proxy configuration...
locally everything works (localhost:8123), but when I try to call it via caddy I get a "connect: connection refused" error log in caddy container

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I've already tried configuring the use_x_forwarded_for + trusted_proxies (even if I'm not really sure I put the correct IP's there)

humble mirage
exotic apex
humble mirage
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Well, if there's nothing there about the proxy then your config is correct

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Or you're never hitting HA

exotic apex
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that's what I'm afraid of, but I don't know how to debug that on Caddy side

#

the error I get on Caddy container is this

# 
{"level":"error","ts":1678908840.9607646,"logger":"http.log.error","msg":"dial tcp 127.0.0.1:8123: connect: connection refused","request":{"remote_ip":"172.19.0.1","remote_port":"40072","proto":"HTTP/2.0","method":"GET","host":"home.vargash.duckdns.org","uri":"/","headers":{"Accept-Encoding":["gzip, deflate, br"],"Sec-Ch-Ua-Mobile":["?0"],"Upgrade-Insecure-Requests":["1"],"Sec-Fetch-Dest":["document"],"User-Agent":["Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/111.0.0.0 Safari/537.36"],"Accept":["text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/avif,image/webp,image/apng,*/*;q=0.8,application/signed-exchange;v=b3;q=0.7"],"Sec-Fetch-Site":["cross-site"],"Sec-Fetch-Mode":["navigate"],"Sec-Fetch-User":["?1"],"Cache-Control":["max-age=0"],"Sec-Ch-Ua":["\"Google Chrome\";v=\"111\", \"Not(A:Brand\";v=\"8\", \"Chromium\";v=\"111\""],"Sec-Ch-Ua-Platform":["\"Windows\""],"Accept-Language":["it-IT,it;q=0.9"]},"tls":{"resumed":true,"version":772,"cipher_suite":4865,"proto":"h2","server_name":"home.vargash.duckdns.org"}},"duration":0.003407616,"status":502,"err_id":"sxvda05t2","err_trace":"reverseproxy.statusError (reverseproxy.go:1299)"}
humble mirage
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connect: connection refused

exotic apex
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I tought that was HA refusing the connection

humble mirage
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Well, if you're running in Docker using localhost is likely the problem

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127.0.0.1 inside the container isn't the same as on the host

exotic apex
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... well, that is an extremely good point

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aaaand that is the answer, i replaced it with ha container's name and there it goes🤦‍♂️

glass sage
fallen lichen
full wyvern
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Hi all, i have had issues with my HA instance randomly restarting unprompted on a Home Assistant Yellow since being forced into a complete wipe and reinstall last week. Other than re-using a backup of my ZHA, it is a completely fresh install with a reinstall of all integrations and addons. I am running Home Assistant 2023.3.4). Any help on troubleshooting this would be appreciated

humble mirage
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Is it just the HA container or the whole Pi that's restarting?

full wyvern
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I believe that is just the container - it doens't look to be hardware related

humble mirage
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Then there's a previous log that may explain what happened

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Possibly home-assistant.log.fault

full wyvern
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There is nothing showing in that log, at all :/

cobalt locust
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is there a way to change the hostname via sd-card or USB Config before / on first boot ? hassos on rpi3

gritty linden
# gritty linden That was my train of thought too, got a cable and it seems to be a boot loop, bu...

Resolved! It was a power issue. Although I had quite a powerful adapter (or so I thought), it wasn't enough when booting from an SSD (hence the success with an SD card but failure with an SSD). So the boot loop restarted when it got more power-hungry. Also, it seems that more power was required to expand the FS on first boot after first flashing the image on the SSD. Whether it was expanding the FS or something else, the filesystem got corrupted after the first boot when it lost power, and all subsequent boots also failed even with a proper power supply.

echo solar
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Hi can anyone help out? just got my SkyConnect and I'm having a really hard time connecting it to my HA. My HA is running in hyper-v and I just can't find a way to pass the USB through

gritty linden
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I'm trying to restore a backup that weighs 726MB. Uploading it via a browser doesn't work as I get the 400 Bad Request error. I've uploaded the backup file through SMB to /share and via Terminal moved it to /backup, but I can't get it to show up in the Backups window. There's probably a really obvious solution that I'm missing

humble mirage
twilit oak
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Addons und kein Supervisor nach Core 2023.3.4 Update

strange geyser
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I've already updated my raspberry pi 3B+ to boot from usb. Boots up with rasbian, but not on home assistant. What am i missing?

raven forge
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@echo solar See if above works for you

strange geyser
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Not following....sorry. I load the Rasbian OS using raspberry pi imager and no issue. I'm wondering if my HA version is 64 bit and thats the problem.

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I installed the 32 bit version of rasbian on ssd

raven forge
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You aren't following because I was talking to someone else about something else. Hence the reply and @. I'd suggest you connect a monitor and see what happens during boot.
It's a bit unclear what you are trying to do or what you did. If you want to install HAOS you should follow the docs: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi

strange geyser
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I did, thank you...but it wouldn't boot up from my ssd.

raven forge
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I'd suggest connecting a monitor then to see why

strange geyser
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I did. I will check the config file

raven forge
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What is displayed?

strange geyser
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upon connecting it to my laptop, all fields are commented out #.

raven forge
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Huh? I meant what is displayed on the display/monitor

strange geyser
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oh....way to much to explain here, but it starts with no ethernet found, then starting USB, 4 devices found...

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missing environment variable pxeuuid

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phy_startup failed

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with timeout

humble mirage
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You ... could take a picture and post it to an image sharing site?

strange geyser
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good idea...will do

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new to discord....where can I attach?

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

humble mirage
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As I said image sharing site

strange geyser
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Thank you

echo solar
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I tried to connect via SSH but (as per the instructions) the command usbip isn't available

strange geyser
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posted under imgur under pringster

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Is that sufficient Tinkerer?

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I could connect directly to available router ethernet port

raven forge
echo solar
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Just managed to install it, sent the attach command and boom… bod

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PC crashed lol

raven forge
strange geyser
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direct connect to ssd with connection to monitor

raven forge
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to the network

strange geyser
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unable to connect to network unless plugged directly from router, which I've just done. Will check via url

raven forge
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Connect it via ethernet cable, reboot and show us the monitor's output again

strange geyser
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Too far away....not sure if I have a long enough cable...checking

raven forge
raven forge
strange geyser
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Understood....now connected directly to ethernet, so will wait a few.

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Have to step away for a while. Thanks for your help Impact.....I'll respond when I return.

strange geyser
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The above is the image after connecting directly to router via ethernet

torn mason
#

I know this is a common problem but I can't seem to find anything that leads me to a solution. I'm trying to install Home Assistant on a Raspberry Pi 3. I flashed the card and installed it, plugged in the ethernet cable, and then the power. After a few minutes, X.X.X.X:8123 responds in a browser and I get a message "Preparing Home Assistant." I waited the recommended 20 minutes several times over, but it never finished. Clicking on the pulsating blue circle gave me a log, which shows repeated messages about being unable to find github.com. I copied the git command to my workstation, connected to the same router, and it worked instantly. I tried giving my router explicit IPs for DNS servers, but the result is the same. I tried ssh'ing to the RP3, but it was refused. I tried reflashing the SD card. Nothing works. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

raven forge
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Can you share those logs?

torn mason
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I'm not sure how to do that. I tried dragging and dropping the file into this session, but it doesn't work on Fedora linux, I guess.

raven forge
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Some channels on this server are configured to not permit uploading files/images directly. Use a paste site and share the link to it

torn mason
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23-03-15 23:35:07 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.store.git] Can't clone https://github.com/home-assistant/addons repository: Cmd('git') failed due to: exit code(128)
cmdline: git clone -v --recursive --depth=1 --shallow-submodules https://github.com/home-assistant/addons /data/addons/core
stderr: 'Cloning into '/data/addons/core'...
fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/home-assistant/addons/': Could not resolve host: github.com
'.
23-03-15 23:35:07 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.store] Can't retrieve data from core due to
23-03-15 23:35:07 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new suggestion SuggestionType.EXECUTE_REMOVE - ContextType.STORE / core
23-03-15 23:35:07 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue IssueType.FATAL_ERROR - ContextType.STORE / core
23-03-15 23:35:07 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.store.git] Can't clone https://github.com/hassio-addons/repository repository: Cmd('git') failed due to: exit code(128)
cmdline: git clone -v --recursive --depth=1 --shallow-submodules https://github.com/hassio-addons/repository /data/addons/git/a0d7b954
stderr: 'Cloning into '/data/addons/git/a0d7b954'...
fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/hassio-addons/repository/': Could not resolve host: github.com
'...

humble mirage
#

The above is the image after connecting

spiral prism
#

Hello, I am having issues trying to pair homekit to my phone. I am using home assistant docker version. I can't pair homekit devices unless I use host network and I can't reverse proxt with nginx proxy manager when it is in host mode. Any kind of help is appreciated.

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@glass sage I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
low notch
spiral prism
low notch
#

don't touch stuff in .storage

spiral prism
glass sage
fallen lichen
glass sage
#

and ha core info returns

➜  / ha core info      
arch: aarch64
audio_input: null
audio_output: null
boot: true
image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant
ip_address: 172.30.32.1
machine: raspberrypi4-64
port: 8123
ssl: false
update_available: true
version: 2022.11.2
version_latest: 2023.3.4
watchdog: true
fallen lichen
#

there's multiple days in there

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and the supervisor is waiting on core to start

glass sage
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I restarted the PI 3 days ago to try and resolve the error. so it's been running for 3 days?

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before that restart it had been running for a few months.

fallen lichen
#

I'd try starting it again and take a look at your core logs

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something is causing it to not "finish" start up

humble scaffoldBOT
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@glass sage I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
fallen lichen
#

How about supervisor logs now

glass sage
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Not loaded so no logs

fallen lichen
#

ha supervisor logs returns nothing?

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what version of supervisor

glass sage
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supervisor isn't loading so addones aren't loading anymore so don't have terminal access

fallen lichen
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hookup a monitor/keyboard

glass sage
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version is 2022.11.0

fallen lichen
#

ahh

glass sage
#

You make it sound like this is something you've seen before.

fallen lichen
#

I thought it may have only been in the beta, but it may have been in the release version too where there's a supervisor update issue

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that will get it to 2022.11.2

glass sage
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Awesome, seems to be in a healthy state now and upgrades seems to be working. ty for the help.

fallen lichen
#

nice, you bet

tropic hill
#

I'm about to throw my keyboard across the room and give up on running my more ancient supervisor-installer.sh shared Debian server install.

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Is the recommended method of hosting HA these days running supervisor on a dedicated intel machine?

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Actually no, I need to deal with this install where it is. I absolutely don't want to go across my home and reconfiguring everything to talk to an MQTT server on a different IP address, that sounds like more of a hell.

low notch
#

why change ip? container can do all you want and is the recommended for your customized needs by everyone here

#

supervised is the least favorite

queen bronze
#

My ha core seems to have frozen up last night. I'm having trouble finding out why. When I came across it this morning I saw it had attempted to be shut down but failed. I tried stopping the container myself, but docker reported an error with this. Supervisor first reported this error in relation to it:
[supervisor.homeassistant.api] Error on call https://<ip>:8123/api/config
and a few minutes later:
[supervisor.misc.tasks] Watchdog found a problem with Home Assistant API!
It eventually tried to restart with this result:

[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't restart ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistat: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/containers/1fef8d6273e7d144260c7363c7a215d7962aab69e4678eecc3bd9f48228405d9/restart?t=240: Internal Server Error ("Cannot restart container 1fef8d6273e7d144260c7363c7a215d7962aab69e4678eecc3bd9f48228405d9: tried to kill container, but did not receive an exit event")

Which is what I also saw when I tried to stop it. The watchdog "reanimation" then continued to fail for the remainder of the night. I ended up having to reboot the host in the morning.

Any idea what could be the problem or especially why the container would fail to stop?

heady garden
#

Tried tinkering. Giving up before starting. The default ip for the rasp pi is no good, no hdmi support, potentially 3b is not supported though walkthroughs I could have sworn did. I tech savvy more than most though suspect most here operate at a higher level. If I can't connect through a default ip, ping my pi, use sharkwire, etc... to find it. I have to wonder how small the Home Assistant community will stay if just trying to get toes wet involves pissing away a few hours with nothing to show for it. The support for 3b dead? No hdmi. Any resource that I can't find that would be useful would be great. But at this point Ive done complicated. If it's not straightforward I'll do without. This is not an indication of software that functions well without babysitting...

humble mirage
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3B is supported fine

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You do have to ensure you use the 3B image, and not the default 4 image...

heady garden
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Thanks tinkerer! I did not see any information regarding that. Ill dig for it now.

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Well there it is. The text did not immediately appear as links but as a title for 3 & 4.... That's nuts. Thanks again for pointing out there are two separate flashes. I was losing my sanity trying everything under the sun.

wicked hull
#

I’m trying to move from a pi3 to a nuc5cpyh. Currently working to get the nuc set up properly. It already had Ubuntu on it. I am following a video that is showing me how to create a partition on the hard drive but their instructions don’t match what I’m seeing. Looking for assistance on how to set up the partition

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In fact, they are acting like I need to delete the current partition. But a) isn’t that what Ubuntu is installed on? b) it doesn’t let me and says “error unmounting ____ target is busy”

torn mason
raven forge
#

No. Sorry. Well, I have a few ideas to troubleshoot but there's probably someone more familiar with HAOS and that error which saves both our time

wicked hull
torn mason
torn mason
#

I'm just going to give up on Home Assistant. I have 20 years of running my own Fedora machines at home. I used heyu for about a decade, and recently switched to openhab. Openhab isn't that reliable, but it was a breeze to install and configure on a RP. This evening I looked into installing HA on my linux desktop and stopped when a rabbit hole of network bridging opened before me. This is the polar opposite of "it just works."

hexed mirage
torn mason
hexed mirage
#

you said you have RPI. install docker there and use it. That frees up the RPI for other things as well. if the HAOS is somehow not working

torn mason
hexed mirage
#

yep - use the docker compose option

torn mason
hexed mirage
hasty raven
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i cant login and when i try to reset my password i get unknow error please see supervisor when i look at the logs it says user not registed what do i do did i just nuke my install
and i dont think i had a back up
i am runnign the vmware ova

hexed mirage
hasty raven
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i dont have access to the bash shell becuase it is a supervised install

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it is not on top of linux

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as far as i am aware

hexed mirage
#

I dunno too much of supervised install. You might want to wait for others to respond, since it's not a preferred method of install anymore, you might have to wait a bit longer. Doesn't vmware give to direct access to the OS or file. if yes, take back of config and setup a new install, if you prefer that way. You just need to delete the .storage folder from within. Your config will still be there but not the state and other info

hasty raven
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if so i would not know how to access all i need is a way to copy of my config files and i will happily reset but i dont know how i would get to the bash shell

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becuase i am not sure how the supervised insatll works

hexed mirage
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The vmware should give you access to the storage. thatsall you need to copy the files from there. it generally should be /config directory or search for configuration.yaml

hasty raven
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how do i get to the bash shell though

raven forge
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You actually need a shell to install the supervised way so that's kinda weird

hasty raven
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it boots the the ha os command line i get ha>

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that is all i get i have no idea how to get out of that

raven forge
#

Sounds more like HAOS. You can type login there

hasty raven
#

okay i got a bash shell

raven forge
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It's ash but it doesn't really matter. You don't need the shell. You can just type the auth reset stuff in the ha > prompt. Otherwise prefix the command with ha like ha auth reset

hasty raven
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that wont let me i get unknown error

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see supervisor

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that is wat i do if i run ha reset

raven forge
#

Got a screenshot or something?

hasty raven
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there u go

raven forge
#

That does not look good. The syntax is correct. What does supervisor logs say?

hasty raven
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more bad news i think

raven forge
#

You might be able to restore the backup it created via the backups command

hasty raven
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how do i check that

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good news apperently there is soem backups made

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how do i restore one?

raven forge
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Type backups then backups restore slugnamehere I think

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Make sure you snapshot your VM before that. This is kinda the wrong channel, btw

hasty raven
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shit i think i ran into bad luck it say backup does not exist even though it shows a whole list of backups

raven forge
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Can you show the list and the command you used?

hasty raven
raven forge
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That's not the slug name I referred to. Use 0311c7d8 and so on. If you type backups restore it shows you some examples

torn mason
hasty raven
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it says error unknown see supervisor

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what did i do to this install jeez

raven forge
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Check supervisor logs again but I'm afraid it might be easier to extract your data and re-install.
The important data is in /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant, btw

hasty raven
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the error says partail backup

hasty raven
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i tixed it

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i was able to create a new user through docker compes

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hell yeah

raven forge
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Kinda seems like there's more broken than just the user access though

hexed mirage
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Supervisor does require quite a bit of heckling when issue come. Even if you do get it running, take the config backup and either go HA OS or docker way.

raven forge
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They are already using HAOS afaik

hasty raven
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well i am going to enable samba and offload the configs

hexed mirage
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Ah i see. Then a new install. And first thing is to setup backup of files routinely

hasty raven
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yeah i agree is there away to set up home assistant to grab its config from a network share?

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im backing up my configs right now

hexed mirage
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I use dockers. So i just have another docker container - duplicati to grab the files and back them up. I am sure there would be some add-ons in HA which does the same

hasty raven
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hmmm

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i will have ot look into it

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thank you guys for the help and suggessstions

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i learned bit about docker

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ahahahahahh

distant jungle
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if i have a backup on my raspberry pi, and i want to move it to a VM on my NAS.....will it remember all the google assistant setup and all the crap i did? or do i have to set that up all over again? (i would be giving it the same IP as the raspberry pi had)

tender hawk
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Hi I am instaling ha on windows 10 (I am installing it on PIPO10 which has really terrible Linux support). First I forgot to install python-dev and hass have trouble starting up. I figure up the mistake, install it, reboot computer and now hass starts corretly with no error messages in ubuntu terminal and no notification. But I see hass web page only in localhost:8123 and not in 192.168.0.143:8123 which is ip addres of that computer. Do you have any idea what I can try to fix this?

fallen lichen
fallen lichen
tender hawk
fallen lichen
rugged grotto
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Hi! I want to migrate my H.A. raspberry installation to a H.A.installation on my home server (Ubuntu 22.04) I have a question about the options. What is the most best choice (without the loss of the least H.A. features) a Docker container installtion or running a Virtual machine like virtual box? I know my way arround those systems, so the only thing i want to know is what features do i gave up if i chose for docker or VM. Thanks in advance!

fallen lichen
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If you're already using Docker and familiar with it, I'd go that route. The only thing you "lose" are add-ons, but that's basically just an easier way to spin up new Docker containers

rugged grotto
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Check. I dont use many addon;s only Grafana, MQTT and ZwaveJS. I am not worried about the first two, but (ZwaveJS or Z-Wave JS UI) is available as a container?

fallen lichen
rugged grotto
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Awesome! Thanks.

fallen lichen
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yep np

wicked hull
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Just set up a new installation on an intel nuc last night. Went to bed after booting “waiting for home assistant cli to be ready” came up on the screen. 8hrs later it still says that. How long does that usually take?

fallen lichen
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not 8 hours, check your log

wicked hull
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I can do that?

fallen lichen
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Try alt+F3

wicked hull
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No response

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I can type under the cli message, so it’s not completely locked up. But alt+F3 doesn’t do anything

fallen lichen
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Try Ctrl+Alt+F3

wicked hull
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Nothing

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None of the alt F combos or ctrl alt combos do anything

fallen lichen
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May want to try a restart and see if any steps report as FAILED

wicked hull
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Does HA need internet at all during initial setup? Because I’m not hooked into my network yet

fallen lichen
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yes it definitely does

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It pulls container images

wicked hull
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Ok, it was hooked up to Wi-Fi during the initial setup all the way until it got to the cli page.

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(The nuc was hooked up to my phone hot spot). I ran Ubuntu on a bootable usb to partition and install etcher and then pull haos down via etcher.

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That all seemed to run smoothly and the I rebooted the nuc and watched it run through haos boot until the cli page came up.

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At that point I grabbed my phone and left to go to bed

fallen lichen
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Pretty sure your network settings would be lost right when you rebooted

wicked hull
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Ahhh. So I need to hook into Ethernet and reboot?

fallen lichen
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yeah, for sure

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It's really not a great idea to plan on using HA over WiFi though.... after you get booted in, you could

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But if at all possible, you really should wire it in

wicked hull
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I plan to hard wire. I was lazy and running this in the living room last night by the fireplace 🙃

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I’ll power down and move it to my Ethernet switch later this morning.

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Thanks!

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One more thing, just power down and back up? Or anything else I should do on initial power up ?

fallen lichen
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You can try a power down/power up, I'd think that'd be enough to get rolling again

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Worst case, do what you did before

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Just no WiFi

open schooner
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Hello, i've installed Home Assistant on my Odroid N2+ and everything was fine till yesterday that started an update for Supervisor and didnt start anymore. It was giving me error that it was not able to download the new update or something like that. After some time the whole website stopped -> homeasssitant.local:8123. Now when i connected a monitor to my Odroid i have seen that it tried to reboot but there was error about bad block bitmap checksum. Can anyone help me please.

fallen lichen
open schooner
fallen lichen
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Those types of flash storage aren't great for running HA due to the continuous writes. There's a fair chance your SD card is dead, especially if it isn't an endurance one

open schooner
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Well the SD card it's pretty fine i connected it to my laptop via card reader and works fine.

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I can try to format the SD card and install again HS, because i'm just at beginning to implement everything. But what do you suggest me to do better? Do i need to get eMMC, because my Odroid have slot for it.

fallen lichen
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eMMC is definitely preferred over an SD. If it is an actual corruption issue w/ your SD, you'll likely be exactly where you're at now very shortly. At a minimum, I'd switch to a high endurance SD card from a decent manufacturer

delicate valve
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brand new here... hello

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I'm trying to install HACS by watching this video but I do not see ADDONS on the settings option to install the terminal & ssh

humble mirage
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Videos become outdated fast, better to use the docs 😉

delicate valve
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Im trying to install Wyze in HA without having to flash the cameras tahts why

golden berry
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Hi I'm trying to start HA on my Ubuntu server that does not have bluetooth. I set bluetooth:false in the config but when I try starting it, I get Setup of bluetooth is taking over 10 seconds any ideas?

humble mirage
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I'm not sure where you got bluetooth:false from

golden berry
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ChatGPT lol

humble mirage
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ChatGPT doesn't know its arse from its elbow

thick pasture
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Hi, all, is anyone here knowledgeable about networks and routers by any chance and would be willing to help me figure out port forwarding? I'm not sure if my router's just limited or if I have issues with my HASS install.

humble mirage
thick pasture
humble scaffoldBOT
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@thick pasture I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
humble mirage
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The video is for the IP range they're using... you're using a different range... that's fine

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Smart Home Everything clearly doesn't realise that there's more than one subnet you can use at home

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I assume your router uses 192.168.0.x?

thick pasture
humble mirage
thick pasture
thick pasture
# humble mirage

No worries, I'll try to be aware of that and not ping you each message.

humble mirage
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You don't have two routers?

thick pasture
# humble mirage You don't have two routers?

I think this is it! I do indeed have 2 routers - I didn't know it was connected to the other one (compared to the one I'm trying to configure port forwarding on), and I just checked and it indeed is!

humble mirage
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Now ... remote one 😉

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And remember to turn off the pings

raven forge
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Or just don't "reply" to a message directly above yours

humble mirage
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Woah... that's advanced thinking

thick pasture
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I think this is probably it, so I'll take a break from debugging this and continue this later, so don't feel pressured to reply now. Thanks again for that question, haha. I hope this is it. I'll ask about this again later if I keep having issues.

torpid mesa
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Hi all!

Today i replaced the ISP router with one of my own.. all works fine, but strange thing is: i can not connect to my Home Assistant external URL (DuckDNS) from my LAN (WiFi) anymore.

Local IP works fine, external URL from anything but my home network works fine too..

Any ideas?

humble mirage
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Your new router doesn't support NAT Reflection, or it's not turned on

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If you've got a local DNS server you can have it return the LAN IP instead of the WAN IP for your hostname

torpid mesa
humble mirage
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Then ... you need to replace the router

tacit agate
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I just got over a strange problem. Flashed SD card with ... 9.5 version. Didn't boot in my raspberry 3 b. Then I flashed with ... 8.2 version, and it booted. Is there something wrong or did they stop support for 3b?

raven forge
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Which file did you use? What does it show when you attach a monitor?

tacit agate
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didn't even show the colourful boot screen.

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tried 2 separate sd cards.

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in fact there was a black screen with the 9.5 image.

raven forge
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What's the file name you used for 9.5?

manic bane
narrow pagoda
# gritty linden Resolved! It was a power issue. Although I had quite a powerful adapter (or so I...

Okay I was having the same issues, and noticed there were FS partitions being expanded as well according to my journal files. As far as I can tell this power hungry boot has started happening after updating the supervisor to the latest. I can try doing a reinstall like you did then have the ssd on a powered adapter. Just odd that my instance was working for 6+ months with out an issue like this until the latest supervisor update.

midnight arch
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What's the best way to run HA these days on x86? I've got a very old HA system that I haven't updated since 2020 iirc. It still works great daily, but I'm thinking it's time to get caught back up and starting over clean. I'm currently running via docker, but am open to other methods if there is a "better" way these days.

raven forge
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Check #hardware-archived. This is discussed almost daily there. Using the docker image (Container installation method) is a good, and imo, the most flexible choice

torpid mesa
tacit agate
humble mirage
wicked hull
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I’ve been struggling to instal HAOS on an intel nuc. It gets stuck on “waiting for home assistant CLI to start”. I captured this picture during boot up. Does this give anyone any ideas on what failed and if I should change anything when I start over and try another install? https://imgur.com/a/BdFpvuc

quasi nacelle
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Oh man. One of those "driving me nuts" issues: HACS is installed, I add a custom component, but no trace of it turns up in the custom_components directory nor the /config/www/community directory nor at the "/hacsfiles/" URL, which returns 404 for all the resources claimed to be installed.

grand pivot
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Adding a custom component won't cause anything to show up in the last two locations, only config/custom_components

quasi nacelle
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does the /hacsfiles/ symlink point to /config/custom_components/hacs/ then?

grand pivot
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No

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It's for custom cards and points to /config/www/community

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Has nothing to do with custom components

quasi nacelle
# grand pivot No

Gotcha. Thanks. But cards aren't showing up there either. In fact, that directory didn't exist until I made it, but despite two added cards showing when I Edit Dashboard > Manage Resources I don't see them in that directory nor at the link listed -- which gives 404

open schooner
indigo burrow
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how can I run home assistant on a Mac with hardware acceleration

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I need hardware acceleration because I'm useing motioneye and bringing live rtsp feeds into home assistant

low notch
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Motioneye does not do hw acceleration

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Except decoding but that shouldn‘t be a problem with modern cpus

sage kestrel
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I will be getting av new Synology NAS capable of running HA through Docker or Synology Virtual Machine. Which one to prefere? Docker or VM. What´s the pros and cons?

indigo burrow
low notch
low notch
sage kestrel
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I believe I can install as many docker containers I want on the docker app in Synology?

low notch
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docker on synology has drawbacks

indigo burrow
hexed mirage
wicked hull
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Take three on attempting to install HAOS on a nuc and I feel like I'm further away than before. Currently running my nuc via USB ubuntu. Trying to clear the 120 GB hard drive and create a new partition. When I try to create a partition with the full 120 GB, it creates a 6.4 GB partition instead and shows 114 GB left free. If I try to resize to anything larger than 6.4 I get an error: Erro resizing partition /dev/sda 1: Failed to set partition size on device '/dev/sda' (unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition.) (undisks-error-quark, 0).

wicked hull
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Using sudo fdisk, it appears that there is still a list of all my prior HAOS partitions still on the disk, even though they no longer show up in the partitions list when using gnome-discs command

raven forge
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Try gparted. The free space should be resized by HAOS automatically

spiral prism
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hello, anybody here knows how to reverse proxy to home assistant docker with nginx proxy manager?
My problem is Homekit does not pair with my phone in bridge network and I can't reverse proxy if I use host network but pairing works

low notch
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You need host mode

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Thats a requirement

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Change nginx proxy manager, not ha

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It gives you instructions how to do that in their docs

vital jackal
low notch
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Supervised is only for experts, stick to a container install or use haos

turbid grail
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Hello. I had to re-install my HAOS installation (VirtualBox image). Earlier, my local network DNS worked fine, i.e. I was able to access e.g. ESPHome devices by just refering to devicename.local as address. After installation, local DNS doesn't work any more. When I check from HA command line, using nmcli command, it shows valid DNS configuration i.e. my local network's router as DNS server.

low notch
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.local is not DNS

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It is mDNS

turbid grail
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It is anyway solved by my router, which is running dnsmasq

low notch
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Hopefully not

raven forge
raven forge
turbid grail
turbid grail
# low notch It is mDNS

I just checked from host machine via tcpdump, it receives mDNS (port 5353) notifications from those ESPHome devices. The device sends rows like this:
12:39:38.624729 IP savustin.local.mdns > 224.0.0.251.mdns: 0*- [0q] 4/0/1 PTR _esphomelib._tcp.local., PTR savustin._esphomelib._tcp.local., (Cache flush) SRV savustin.local.:6053 0 0, (Cache flush) TXT "board=d1_mini" "platform=ESP8266" "mac=c45bbedf6dfc" "version=2022.8.1" (248)

low notch
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what a surprise?

turbid grail
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Not a surprise at all. But surprise is that when I go to HA command line and issue "nslookup" command, like "nslookup savustin.local", it does not find address. But when I give command "nslookup savustin.local 192.168.1.1", it goes well.

low notch
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DNS != mDNS

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DNS features nameservers which nslookup looks up. mDNS does not

turbid grail
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This seems to be due to HA's CoreDNS module. It is always using external, hard-coded DNS even though HA has been configured to use some other.

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There was one idea on the thread. I renamed my router's "local network" suffix from .local to .mylocal. Now ping to e.g.

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"savustin.mylocal" works fine. Next step is somehow getting HA to understand to use .mylocal when looking up devices.

low notch
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.local is strict mDNS and not supposed to be administered by your router

turbid grail
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It seems that HA hasn't earlier cared so much about mDNS, but it has happily forwarded .local requests to router. But it came stricter at some point.