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light stream
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@grand pivot thank you, looks like they're saying to change something on my router? I feel like this is something inside my HA configuration or on my virtualbox setup

grand pivot
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that is just the easiest way to get client devices to use a better DNS server

light stream
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@grand pivot that worked!

grand pivot
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I don't understand why the default DNS servers for some ISPs can't resolve some addresses..

light stream
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yea very strange

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ive not ever had any issues before

crimson willow
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I just deleted the ssh plugin by mistake. I can't connect to the device. What do you suggest I do at this stage?

crude inlet
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@crimson willow "plugin" isn't really an HA user term. You uninstalled the ssh add-on?

narrow raft
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I'm migrating from the supervised VM to my own docker setup. Is there something special to clear out the hassio bits?

homeassistant-home_assistant-1                     | 2022-12-04 21:52:46.358 WARNING (Recorder) [homeassistant.components.recorder.util] The system could not validate that the sqlite3 database at //config/home-assistant_v2.db was shutdown cleanly
homeassistant-home_assistant-1                     | 2022-12-04 21:52:46.424 WARNING (Recorder) [homeassistant.components.recorder.util] Ended unfinished session (id=57 from 2022-12-05 02:51:37.400071)
homeassistant-home_assistant-1                     | 2022-12-04 21:52:46.453 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio] Missing SUPERVISOR environment variable
homeassistant-home_assistant-1                     | 2022-12-04 21:52:46.460 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Setup failed for hassio: Integration failed to initialize.
latent terrace
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Ish. It seems like everybody assumes that everyone runs HA in a 'supervised' manner and so it's rarely documented what an installation looks like outside of the 'add-on' mechanism. So it doesn't seem like a real choice.

narrow raft
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I looked into it for the file editor plugin. The daemon supports basic auth which can be passed in the iframe. Then you limit the iframe access

latent terrace
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Right, so I guess that's what I'm saying - you don't just have to know how to install the software, you have to really understand how it's all bound together afterwards. And (at least for me) that's the real barrier.

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Does the docker route you're taking avoid that and work like a 'supervised' setup?

narrow raft
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Well yeah. The addons are only supported in supervised. Anything outside is kinda on your own.

narrow raft
latent terrace
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And I've been running HAOS in a VM mostly successfully, but it's not working in mysterious and impossible to debug ways so I'm looking for alternatives.

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(also that approach makes it annoyingly difficult to get hardware accelerated video decode)

fading aurora
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How’s the latest core update? Anyone with a bunch of HomeKit stuff perform the update and it not completely break everything in HomeKit? I update upon initial release, but had to restore a backup. Been holding off since. Also, yes I read the release notes

latent terrace
grand pivot
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It is not

latent terrace
narrow raft
latent terrace
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It's kind of unfortunate that you get to choose between addons and running on a variety of platforms.

crude inlet
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@latent terrace esphome's frontend as an add-on and its frontend as a container are the same thing.

narrow raft
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The addon just makes it "easy"

crude inlet
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like all other servers with a frontend, they are independent. For example. Plex, sonarr, radarr, etc

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Whether there's a link within HA to get you there or not shouldn't be a huge obstacle

latent terrace
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At that point you're really not using them with HA though, and you're looking at setting up multiple subdomains and ssl certs or doing some sort of complicated proxying?

crude inlet
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"with" HA is determined by integrations

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Add-ons provide the software

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Not the integration with HA

latent terrace
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Well so for example, esphome and frigate have nice left-menu entries and load within HA when you click them. If you don't use the add-on, what's the process to replicate that if have standalone installations?

narrow raft
crude inlet
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@latent terrace create a link

latent terrace
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So in my case would a setup look something like this?

  • container runs HA
  • host machine or another container runs non-HA software
  • host machine or another container runs proxy (unclear to me just yet how that gets set up)
  • router runs another proxy to SSLify the whole thing (in my case I'm using let's encrypt + haproxy on opnsense)
narrow raft
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nginx should handle the SSL

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IMO

latent terrace
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unclear how that can work with automatically getting and renewing certs though?

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opnsense + haproxy + let's encrypt automates that whole process and I'm loathe to do anything different

narrow raft
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if you're only on one IP then you config whatever is presented for ACME to route traffic based on dns name. ha.blah.com goes to the nginx container

latent terrace
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so that's haproxy right now

narrow raft
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internally you point dns to the nginx container. eternally points to your wan ip.

latent terrace
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haha, right now it's all external

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so e.g., if I access homeassistant.mydomain.tld it gets routed to WAN and bounces off my ISP and comes back

narrow raft
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Kinda silly lol

latent terrace
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yeah it is, but it's very simple and doesn't require me to override any DNS or have any special cases

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and I'm never going to miss the bandwidth or the latency, so whatever

narrow raft
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internal dns is pretty common tactic.

latent terrace
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doing that round trip costs me about 1 ms which I'm never going to miss vs having to debug a DNS configuration even once

narrow raft
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🤷‍♂️

latent terrace
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So does the supervised install internally do some proxying so that externally I don't have to know that there's multiple containers serving from multiple ports?

craggy girder
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Is that the link where I can access my dashboard?

crimson willow
crude inlet
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The ssh addon?

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That is optional in the first place

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You might have done something else to break your install

crimson willow
# crude inlet You might have done something else to break your install

I also think it's pointless that the device doesn't turn on. I have a rasbery pi 3b model. I was using the standard file manager. I used it this way for a long time, but when the file manager was insufficient and vscode (I don't remember the name, it must be visual studio code) installed it, the device did not remove it. I removed the file manager and ssh plugins, thinking that the ram was not enough. Then the device turned off and now I can't reach it, it won't turn on.

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What can I do to recover the device? I reapplied the config configuration with usb in the first installation, but the situation is still the same. In this case, can I access my device in safe mode or with different techniques? I made a backup yesterday, but I would be very happy if I can still access the old state.

crude inlet
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@crimson willow vscode is going to use a lot of ram on a pi3b and that's probably what you should remove instead. The ssh addon uses hardly anything. When you say it won't turn on do you mean power?

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Or do you only mean that HA isn't reachable?

crimson willow
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No, I'm not talking about power. How can I explain this to you? I can not access the address. http://homeassistant.local:8123/ I did the config configuration in the first installation with usb disc, it did not work in that example. The device is switched on but homeassistan can't seem to load.

crude inlet
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You can connect directly with keyboard and monitor to investigate or you can reflash and restore backup

crimson willow
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How can I do that? Is there a directive?

crimson willow
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I have connected the device to the screen.the home assistant command line page comes up.it tells me to log in at homeassistant.local:8123,but I can't get to the page. I would like to upload a photo,but the system won't let me.

crimson willow
cinder marsh
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@crimson willow looking at the screen, looks like it doesn't have an IP address..

crimson willow
cinder marsh
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Make sure the network cable is plugged in would be the first step

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Then make sure the other end of the network cable is plugged into an active port

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Then reboot the pi

crimson willow
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Could uninstalling the ssh plugin cause something like this? Of course, since I doubt this process, I did a "config" configuration with the usb disk made in the installation process. maybe that process may have caused such a problem...How can I fix this in this process? I would be happy if you help me.

cinder marsh
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Then that screen should show you an IP address which you can access directly on port 8123

crimson willow
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I would also like to point out...Rasperry was connected to the modem via ethernet, when this problem occurred, I removed the ethernet socket and connected it to the tv. Could this be the reason why it does not get an ip address?

cinder marsh
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Uninstalling the SSH add-on wouldn't cause the network to fail

crimson willow
cinder marsh
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Yes you will need to plug in the network cable to your modem for the network to function then once that's sorted out, connect to your WLAN, then reboot the whole system to make sure it stays on the WLAN

crimson willow
cinder marsh
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Uninstalling add-ons doesn't break anything

crimson willow
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So the only problem in the current circumstances is that it doesn't take ip? Is it possible to do this manually? Is it a wrong step for me to show the network information to the device again with the config file? I am open to all suggestions.

crimson willow
# cinder marsh Uninstalling add-ons doesn't break anything

Very interesting, I think removing plugins should not crash the system .but right now the system does not open .the last time I made a backup yesterday, but to restore the backup again, do I need to do a clean installation from scratch ?

cinder marsh
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No you don't, all you need to do is get your network connection working. Then login, go to settings, system, then backups, top right corner you should be able to upload/restore a backup

crimson willow
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By making my network connection work, you mean connecting the cable to the modem, correct? Is there anything extra I can do other than that? Right now the system is not getting an IP address and we can't do anything, correct? Is there any step that can be done?

cinder marsh
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Yeah, just connect the cable to the modem and reboot the pi

agile gale
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Hey, how do I install home assistant on a rock 4 se?

viral gazelle
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Help.. 'm running HA on a RAS PI4 with SSD. The other day no updates would apply. Now i'm unable to access HA. How can I recover?

fresh solstice
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hey guys, im running ha on a VM on windows. I want to increase the available storage, 32gb right now. Can i simply stop the machine and edit the vdi size?

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i dont even know how is it using so much storage? any way i check?

grand pivot
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32GB is the suggested minimum, but you should look at your logs, backups, and database

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and yes, I believe you can just increase it and HA OS will notice that it's been increased and grow the filesystem

fresh solstice
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ok ill try that in a few moments

crimson willow
manic bane
crimson willow
# manic bane Should try to always have servers connected over ethernet…

Yes, but I couldn't access home assistant when the ethernet was connected. I disconnected the ethernet, uploaded a config file with a usb disc, etc. It couldn't get an ip address again. I just reconnected it to ethernet and it booted up like nothing happened. I am using it now... Home assistant is a very nice platform, very functional. I like this aspect very much. You can do everything you want, but this yaml issue and a little sensitive structure scares me. But despite this, we have been together for about 1.5 years. I love Home Assistant ...

manic bane
craggy girder
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Should I run ha on a PI 3

manic bane
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But honestly if you want to use your pi over wifi just don’t, run it off ethernet, so much less hassle

manic bane
craggy girder
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1gb

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Oh okay.. I'll try something else

manic bane
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Any normal computer from the last 10 years will be faster than a Pi3

craggy girder
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I see,

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Also

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Does ha have ring integration

tough burrow
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Install Home Assistant via ssh with a 1-click command on x86?

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Jes no?

grand pivot
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"no"

tough burrow
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Is there another way to install this on an AMD processor? x86 ?

grand pivot
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lots of ways

tough burrow
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Ubuntu Server 22.04 is enough if I install Docker as an add-on?

grand pivot
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if I install Docker as an add-on
that doesn't make sense

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in any case, all the ways to install HA are documented there

tough burrow
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you can also install Docker when setting up Ubuntu Server 22.04 would that be enough?

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Ok

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I can simply install the things via Docker?

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X86/64

leaden gyro
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HA with MySensors integration (MQTT). I am trying to completely redo the integration. The current integration works, but I am unable to have nodes as part of the gateway. I hoping that starting over from scratch might work. 1st I stop the MySgw. then I delete the integration. This does not delete the persistent data; using Studio Code Server, I delete MySensors data. Next I delete the MySensors topics from the MQTT broker. Finally, I reboot Home Assistant. (In terminal execute reboot) when the reboot is complete, I re-integrate MySensors, ensuring that the version, "in" topics and "out" topics are identical to the MySgw. Then I restart the gateway. The data is getting the MQTT broker, but not to HA. Of course I backed up before doing this and when I do the full restore, all is working as it was before. I expect I should be able to start from scratch. What am I doing wrong?

spring moss
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So i've got my hardware finally. I just need to decide: Unraid and dockerize everything, or proxmox and VM it all.

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Planning on HA as well as several other self-hosted services like jellyfin, kitchenowl, etc

wide sedge
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Any ideas on what would cause Updater to just spin forever?

lofty jasper
tough burrow
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Hello

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Help ne Docker
Jes o no?

low notch
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jes, but in english

tough burrow
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I have an Ubuntu Server 22.04 can you send me the comados?

grand pivot
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I gave you the link earlier

low notch
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problem solved

tough burrow
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But it didn't work

low notch
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why?

grand pivot
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Wrong comados

low notch
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aw man

sand nymph
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Hello,
New to HA
I have bought a HP Thin Client T530, it is running windows on it.
I was wondering what would be the best way to get HA onto it and if there is any install guides. As, im aware it must boot into HA and run as a HA 'computer'?
Thanks guys 🙂

tough burrow
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So I came to the interface, set up cloud access and like all the time, the port on the PC is closed automatically, I only understand the station

copper steppe
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@sand nymph there are options besides being just a "ha computer", but if you don't need it for anything else, that's the best option.

timber willow
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I found how to back up and download the backup from HA.. is this enough if I want to migrate to a new HA install on a new device?

copper steppe
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Yes, if it's a full backup (and your new install supports addons etc).

timber willow
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new install is going to be "core" on pop os

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yeah I did a full back up. i don't have much to save either.. a bunch of cards and a bunch of shellies

copper steppe
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you'll have to manage addons yourself. But the integration config and history should be migrated.

timber willow
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ok

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i see

zealous schooner
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I'm probably doing something very stupid, so forgive me in advance 🙂 I have been running hassio in a rpi3 for a few years (and a few sd cards) and time came that I am now moving it to a virtual machine running in a qnap x86 nas box. I decided to go the "easy" way and just import the ova available in the official releases page and boot it up. All goes well until I try accesing the main page, by which time I am taken to the login page instead of the onboarding one. I tried going straight to the onboarding.html page but it still redirects me to the login page, for which I don't have the details.

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I have already tried removing the .storage folder and rebooting, but when it reboots, it just creates the folder again and I am still redirected to the login page instead of onboarding

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does anyone see the error in my ways?

crude inlet
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@zealous schooner is the RPi still up? Are you sure you aren't connecting to that?

orchid pebble
copper steppe
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@zealous schooner are you sure you're hitting the new instance, and not the old one? Which image did you use?

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I have a very similar setup. Which image/process did you use?

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THough I used the kvm-based image, not the ova.

wind ocean
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hello guys. I really need some help. I installed homeassistant in docker, followed the official installation in ubuntu. However when using network mode host, I cannot connect to the service at all. It only works when I pin it to port 8123

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however with that doscovery function no longer works

tacit tide
wind ocean
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@tacit tide thank you for your respond but when I run yout first line it saids confilct container name already in use

tacit tide
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sudo docker stop "home-assistant" and sudo docker rm "home-assistant"

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That will remove Your existing container and You can start a new one

wind ocean
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just tried

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still not working

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it just keep saying unable to connect when I try to access it

tough burrow
opal idol
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#installation-archived Hey, I have some troubles with installation via script/setup
Package installations stops at

pre-commit installed at .git/hooks/pre-commit
ERROR: File "setup.py" not found. Directory cannot be installed in editable mode: /srv/git/core
(A "pyproject.toml" file was found, but editable mode currently requires a setup.py based build.)
low notch
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what script?

opal idol
obtuse nest
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Is there a difference software wise between OS for x86 and OS qcow2 ?

crude inlet
obtuse nest
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Knew it. So for long term "advanced" people, its better to manually install x86 inside KVM, right?

crude inlet
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I don't know why using the x86 generic image would be better. It sounds like more pain (if using qemu) and no gain?

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But you can do whatever you like of course

rough falcon
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I was wondering about the difference between those images a few days ago myself... Would the OVA image contain some sort of guest audition for running in VM, that might be missing from the generic image?

obtuse nest
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Unless the kernel is stripped of them

timber willow
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i'm installing with kvm virt-manager. not sure what "Select your bridge under Network Selection" means.. it's asking for a bridge device name.. what would it be?

low notch
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you'd need to create your own br0 with your ethernet card attached to it in e.g. debian and use that in kvm

timber willow
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i'll try to find a guide for this.. is it required?

crude inlet
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@timber willow you want the VM to have its own IP address on your network like everything else

timber willow
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thank you very much

wind ocean
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can someone help me please, this is driving me crazy

low notch
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whats in the logs when you use host network?

wind ocean
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one sec

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LOg

wide sedge
crude inlet
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@wide sedgeConnection issue? Restarting HA would not reboot the system or restart networking services

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For that you would use Settings > System > Hardware > 3 dots in the upper right corner

tough burrow
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can HA OS be copied via DD on Ubuntu?

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Jes o no?

low notch
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copy from where to where?

timber needle
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Is there an easy migration from haos to a container install? I’ve now got a NUC running docker and I’d like to put HA in it and retire the pi.

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Is it just a case of moving /config over?

short escarp
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I did do this with an old computer converting to a docker installation on a Synology NAS. Created a backup from within the old installation and imported that into the new installation

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That was a while ago though, but you could always try this and keep the haos install should it not go to plan

timber needle
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I thought the container version didn’t have backup/restore (unsupervised)

short escarp
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sorry my bad, did try the container version but in the end reverted to a virtual machine

timber willow
crude inlet
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@timber willow there's 4 guides really. Which method did you use?

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I tried all of them at some point. I forget which felt easiest

high token
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I've not missed any episodes right? Restoring a backup still doesn't restore network settings

timber willow
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the first. after creating the config.yaml file it gave me an error related to indentation.. i tried fixing it and now I can't boot on my install.. I'm not blaming you and I'm just learning but.. it's surprising

crude inlet
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@high token correct

high token
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Thanks. Never mind person did something else stupid 😅

placid sage
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hi all. I'm trying to start my new HA installation based on a raspi4 + SSD SATA 2.5.

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the system is taking at this point of time 30' to start , in fact it is still on the "Preparing Home Assistant" screen,

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is it a normal behaviour?

timber needle
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The initial “preparing home assistant “ does take a while

latent bear
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Make sure to refresh (or open it in a new tab) as the page doesn't update automatically

placid sage
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thank you both

high token
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click on the blue dot

placid sage
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22-06-02 19:09:43 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'Updater.fetch_data' blocked from execution, no supervisor internet connection

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the raspberry has a LAN cable connected...

wide sedge
crude inlet
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@wide sedge well that would do the same, but with more risk

wide sedge
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Yep. No dice.

crude inlet
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@wide sedge supervisor logs when this is happening?

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You need advanced mode enabled to choose that from the drop-down in the log page

distant bloom
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hola amigos

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question for ya.

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I'm trying to install the OS Agent on the amd64 platform in debian 11

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only option I see on github is os-agent_1.4.1_linux_amd64.tar.gz

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what am I supposed to do with that.

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sorry, newby.

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just a little bit

brisk willow
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I'm going to be blunt here and I swear I'm not trying to be a jerk, but if you're asking what to do with a tarball, you shouldn't run HA Supervised (the requirements for that say you should be an expert in Linux, Docker, and networking)

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Any reason you're running HA Supervised instead of HA OS or HA Container?

distant bloom
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bare with me as I'm trying to get back into HA game.

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I have a terminal in which I'm running a 3d printer farm running octoprint

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amd64

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I have a few Rasp Pis, but wanted to know if it was possible to install HA and octoprint on the same box.

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I'm following these instructions

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got docker running

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up to the point where I have to load the agent

brisk willow
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Definitely, but HA Container would be the way to go instead of HA Supervised because installing anything outside the HA ecosystem (apart from the system requirements) will make HA Supervised unsupported

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Or run HA OS and see if there's an octoprint add-on

distant bloom
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probably to monitor

glad crow
brisk willow
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Yep. You'll just need to stop and remove the home assistant container first

distant bloom
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is there an HA image for amd64?

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sorry, but trying to cleanup the mess I made while posting here.

brisk willow
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Yes, that is arguably one of the most common CPU architectures

distant bloom
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Everything ok Tediore?

brisk willow
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Wdym?

wind ocean
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just reinstalled docker

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still no luck

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cannot access using network host

gilded pewter
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How can i check if the nmap integration is working?

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I dont get any results in the entity overview

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oh wrong channel

stray shard
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Hi anyone can advise why is my HA is running at 100% cpu and memory

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Im running on proxmox

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There is some error saying failed to enable software mII access , failed to write medium mode mode to 0×0000

teal axle
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I have homeassistant installed on one computer and I want to move to a different machine. I installed hass os on the new machine can I now just backup from the old machine and restore it on the new one? will I lose anything doing that?

copper steppe
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@teal axle I think it should be fine

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@stray shard are you doing anything strange, like device-passthrough ?

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I don't have this issues on proxmox+haos. My CPU is about 2% It's normal for the memory to be high - the VM uses any spare for buffer/cache

civic axle
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I just installed on a rasberry pi. Is there a way to setup wifi details using the cli, or do I need to plug it in via ethernet?

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all I have is the ha > prompt, and no way to explorer the cli options because |more and |less won't work 🙂

pulsar oxide
civic axle
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I only have the ha> prompt.. there's no nano command

crude inlet
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You didn't finish the install yet if you didn't have it plugged in to ethernet

civic axle
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that was the question, I'll plug it in then 🙂

obsidian badger
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Which os should the pi be running if you are looking to run docker / HA container?

manic bane
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In that case whatever you like. I prefer debian

obsidian badger
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debian as in raspian? or straight debian

manic bane
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I do straight debian. But unsure what's supported on a Pi.

Just to confirm though, you do mean just container install with no supervisor right @obsidian badger

obsidian badger
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Sorry by bad yeah no supervisor just container on rasberry pi

heady glen
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IHey guys, is there a way to install HA without an internet connection? Github is banned here 😢

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currently installing using an vm image*

timber willow
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same

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installing on ubuntu?

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you can download the haos image on another computer and transfer it

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or maybe there is a mirror

jaunty grove
timber willow
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haha

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@heady glen i could maybe mirror it for you.. tell me which vm youre using

humble mirage
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In theory you don't need GitHub since it's coming from a Docker hub and PyPi

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Custom components/cards/etc will be "fun"

grand pivot
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The primary host for the HA images is GitHub

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ghcr

humble mirage
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Woohoo

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Still, pure Container install ... you could get that from Docker Hub

timber willow
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I'm using qemu and virt-manager and I see qemu has already setup a bridge for me.. I'm using it.
Locally it works with the bridge ip.. so I assume this step works. I can also access the gui using homeassistant.local:8123..

but I can't access it on any other device on this network. what can I try to fix this?

low notch
wide sedge
timber willow
crude inlet
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"locally" typically means the rest of the local network

timber willow
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i meant on the machine

crude inlet
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do you mean you can connect from the same machine it is running on

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yeah

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that's not the network settings you want

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that's not the right bridge

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You want it to get an ip address using dhcp from your router like everything else on your network

timber willow
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ah maybe I can edit this bridge

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can I edit the vm to use another bridge name once I create a new one?

crude inlet
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I just went through this with someone else in add-ons

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Yes, you can create a bridge and then select that in virt-manager

heady glen
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It looks like any docker and VM images needs to download additional stuff from Github for initialization. I might try to use a VPN on my home router to unblock github temporarily and disable it after initialization finishes.

crude inlet
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Docker downloads docker images as needed, yes.

bold fulcrum
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Hi everyone! I've just installed the Docker image and I can't get through onboarding. When I get to the home name/location/timezone screen, fill it and submit the data, the following error appears: Failed to save: undefined
Additionally, in home-assistant.log I get:

2022-12-07 19:50:23.240 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.http.ban] Login attempt or request with invalid authentication from XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX (XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX). Requested URL: '/api/onboarding/core_config'. (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/107.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Edg/107.0.1418.62)

This is my configuration.yaml: https://yaso.su/EOdbHw8T
I'm using Nginx as a reverse proxy.

humble mirage
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Does it work if you bypass the proxy?

teal axle
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When I do a backup I get a message saying unknown error check supervisor logs. I don't see any errors in the supervisor logs. here is the relevant logs https://pastebin.com/1fdamY1Q on line 51 it looks like it completes.

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When I refresh the page the backup is there. is it safe to rely on that backup?

timber willow
crude inlet
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You created a new bridge?

timber willow
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yeah following the nmcli and editor methods

crude inlet
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ok

timber willow
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with manual ip "ip ad" now shows br0 with this ip.. should work

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gotta doublecheck that nothing else is using that ip

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i'm so bad with networking lol.. at least i'm learning

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still no luck. the VM says "ipv4 addresses for enp0s3: " nothing written there..

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i know enp0s3 is an alias for my ethernet device.. but its name when i type "ip ad" is eno1

bold fulcrum
low notch
timber willow
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and the interfaces.d folder is empty

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i'm on pop os

grand pivot
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whale
petunia
fish
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did I guess right?

timber willow
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lol

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i expected a list of interfaces that's why i said that

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let me install discord on that machine so I can copy paste easily

low notch
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you will need more than 3 fish

grand pivot
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don't we all...

brisk willow
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Mmm fish

timber willow
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`# interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8)

Include files from /etc/network/interfaces.d:

source /etc/network/interfaces.d/* `

low notch
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ooof, do you run network manager stuff? I don't touch these

timber willow
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idk.. no?

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this install is fresh from today

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yesterday's install destroyed my ssd lol

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an old ssd to be fair.. its probably unrelated

low notch
timber willow
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it would help to be able to share screenshots here

low notch
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i don't like images of system dialogues

timber willow
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9: br0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UP group default qlen 1000 link/ether 5e:1f:51:91:32:c6 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.0.3/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global noprefixroute br0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

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that's what I get from ip ap.. related to the bridge

low notch
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... and what is your machines ip?

timber willow
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192.168.0.128

the 3 was set manually to test with

low notch
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is br0 able to reach lan and internet?

timber willow
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not sure how to test

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but in the VM, HA says it uses ipv4 addresses for enp0s3 and doesnt mention the ip.. so i assume it doesnt work

low notch
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you can either attach your eth0 to this bridge, or attach ha to it and see if you can ping devices on your lan

brisk willow
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How is there no default pop can emoji

timber willow
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enp0s3 is mentioned as an altname for my eth interface "eno1"

low notch
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not sure what you are doing with altnames

timber willow
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i didnt set it up myself

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2: eno1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000
link/ether d8:5e:d3:e0:5a:c3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
altname enp3s0
inet 192.168.0.128/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global dynamic noprefixroute eno1
valid_lft 82830sec preferred_lft 82830sec
inet6 fe80::dbcc:420a:6596:65ce/64 scope link noprefixroute
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
3: virbr0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state DOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether 52:54:00:3a:84:c3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
9: br0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state DOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether 5e:1f:51:91:32:c6 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

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im going back to automatic dhcp

low notch
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so your 0.3/24 was served by dhcp?

timber willow
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set as manual ip to test with

# 
NAME                   UUID                                  TYPE      DEVICE 
br0                    fa87f6b9-4e96-43a4-8482-8621bec246da  bridge    br0    
Ethernet connection 1  e3a61026-4642-4637-b4c0-ec2b208b384e  ethernet  eno1
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this is what i get from nmcli conn show --active

low notch
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nmcli = network manager

timber willow
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Ah yes I tried this from a tutorial someone here sent

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I never set up a bridge before

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I was surprised the ha install guide didn't even call it a "network bridge" but just bridge

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It's the least clear part of the guide.. Other than that it's fine

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The guide mentions I should disable my Ethernet interface.. I don't understand why

grand pivot
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if you set up a bridge and connect your ethernet interface to it, then you should assign your IP address to the bridge and only use it

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your ethernet adapter should not have an address, or be configured for DHCP

timber willow
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Br0 in automatic shows an ip now.. But is pop os also using this ip?

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Ah ok I see

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So in this case bridge-br0 becomes my link to the Ethernet interface

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And for pop os, if I want a different ip. I need another bridge

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Not sure how to assign pop os to "br1"

grand pivot
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you don't need more bridges

crude inlet
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🌉 🌉 🌉 🌉 🌉 🌉 🌉

timber willow
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lol

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ok

grand pivot
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that is definitely too many

timber willow
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so everything goes through br0

grand pivot
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yes

timber willow
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disactivating eth interface was the step i was missing

grand pivot
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I just set mine to "manual":
iface eno1 inet manual

oblique echo
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I'm struggling to get a new install of HA up and running. I'm trying to migrate from a rpi4 to a AMD based mini pc so I can run doker and a few other containers like frigate, proxy server for my thermostat, etc. But I want to reatain a supervised install of HA under docker. I've tried a couple of different guides both using Ubuntu 20.0.4, and have had zero luck getting up and running. I've followed the instructions to the letter and all the confirmations I've gotten from the system have matched the guides, but nothing. Am I out of luck trying to do this? The last guide I tried was done in Oct, 2022, so I would have assumed the instructions were still valid.

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And I get supervised HA in docker isn't an officially supported install, but it's the setup I'd prefer to keep.

brisk willow
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what makes it unsupported is running it on anything other than Debian 11 and/or installing anything outside the HA ecosystem except the system requirements @oblique echo

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HA Supervised always uses docker

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i know you said you want to keep that installation method, but you're really just setting yourself up for pain in the future if you go down this road

lucid haven
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,, and if you want to run other docker containers but not as HA addons.. In my case I run another proxmox vm as a docker host to run my docker containers that either aren't avalable as HA addons or for whatever reason make more sense to run on a docker host not supervised by HA

brisk willow
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If you're using Proxmox why not just run HA OS?

lucid haven
lucid haven
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As far as I can tell they want to run docker and a supervised HA install. The best solution I came up with to accomplish that was to run HA OS in an LXC container and run a vm as docker host

brazen herald
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Step 1: Don't run Supervised.
Step 2: See step 1.
Step 3: VM, HAOS, or container?
Step 4: If you picked Supervised, GOTO 1

😉

high token
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You cannot run HAOS as an LXC

lucid haven
high token
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then you're probably running Supervised. HAOS is an OS itself, which would only be able to run as a VM

lucid haven
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nope Im running HAOS

high token
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prove it 😅

lucid haven
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If you're interested to see how, go to the link I posted above

high token
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Go to Settings --> System --> Repairs --> 3 dots on the top right --> System Information

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read the 2nd line

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I'm familiar with wiskerz's script which also is outdated by 2-3 years (something to keep in mind)

lucid haven
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yeah its a script that installs HA OS in as an LXC container

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.. and 2-3 years ago is when I installed HA OS in the LXC container. It works perfectly and I keep HA OS up to date. If you were famaliar with the script you would realize that you can install HA OS in an LXC container

brazen herald
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If you were familiar with Home Assistant, then you would realise that supervised very much not recommended 😉

lucid haven
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I am not recommending HA Supervised

high token
random hedge
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Hey everyone, i am trying to install homeassistant for the first time.
I went with the docker option on a raspberrypi 3 running dietpi.
I ran this command
root@DietPi:~# docker run -d --name homeassistant --privileged --restart=unless-stopped -e TZ=Israel -v /home/dietpi/homeassistant:/config --network=host ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable
It looks like it worked but I am unable to open the webserver, im getting "This site can’t be reached".
running: docker ps -a returns:

CONTAINER ID   IMAGE                                          COMMAND   CREATED         STATUS          PORTS     NAMES
1273831cca88   ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable   "/init"   3 minutes ago   Up 41 seconds             homeassistant

Edit: entered http://192.168.14.21:8123/ to my browser, the IP is correct

lucid haven
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I've been using HA since the very beginning. I'm sorry I mispoke a few comments back and said HA Supervised but I corrected myself

lucid haven
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I regret even coming to the HA discord server now. I just thought I'd try to help a fellow user out and instead get jumped on by people being snarky with me telling me that what I'm doing is not possible 😧

high token
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That was not my intention. I was just trying to understand and suggest a correct way. I'm not sure how that does say HAOS

high token
random hedge
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and some other network related packages. what should i do?

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here is one of the full error lines:
2022-12-08 00:19:20.031 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.setup] Unable to set up dependencies of api. Setup failed for dependencies: http

high token
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do you use dietpi for any other reason already?

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I'm not familiar with it but it could be something on it is conflicting network wise

random hedge
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nope, i just installed it today

high token
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if you're not using the Pi for anything else, perhaps would be simple/easier to go with HAOS instead

random hedge
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my goal is to run multiple things on the raspberry pi, not just homeassistant, thats why i did not go with that

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thought docker would be a foolproof way but i guess not

high token
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I would at least try with RpiOS or Debian as the OS

random hedge
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yeah i guess so

high token
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now you have the steps fresh in your head too. Should be quick 😄

random hedge
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im tired of the wait times.. i have been trying since yesterday.

high token
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what other things did you want to install?

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maybe they already exist as addons

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or at least give RpiOS a try and if that also has issues then go from there

lucid haven
high token
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There is HA OS VM, HA Container LCX and HA Core LXC. There's not HAOS LXC there

lucid haven
high token
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HA Core is HA itself alone as a python process

lucid haven
high token
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Nope you'd only have HA itself. Same as HA Container

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It's just not running as a container in docker

brazen herald
high token
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99% of addons were containers once 😛

lucid haven
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I see. Well in that case if I had to install HA OS again. I'd still use the wiskerz script to install HA OS in an LXC container. LXC beats running a VM. Less resource intensive

brazen herald
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Docker beats LXC by a long shot last I looked 🙂

lucid haven
low notch
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i want to see this mysterious "haos in lxc" thing

lucid haven
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when I get home from work I'll post screen shots if thats what I need to do to prove thats what Im doing

high token
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he's using wiskerz's script

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but as far as I always knew it was hassio so Supervised

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yet HA is saying it's HAOS

high token
lucid haven
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I've installed ha os in an LXC container before without wiskerz script. The wiskerz script just makes it easy

low notch
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so whiskerz script installs supervised

lucid haven
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no it installs ha os

crude inlet
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@lucid haven That LXC installation represents a very small subset of HA user installs, so not many are familiar with it and it can be confusing. There's a vm installer script for proxmox, and the LXC installation, and most were told to stay away from the LXC choice, but people still do it. https://www.home-assistant.io/more-info/unsupported/lxc/

low notch
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it installs supervised

random hedge
brazen herald
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OctoPrint is nice to have on a dedicated device 🙂

random hedge
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i dont print very often and it worked great while running alongside homebridge for quite some time now

high token
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I don't think I could do without Octoprint

brazen herald
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HA can replace HomeBridge very easily

random hedge
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but i am spending 2 days just trying to install the damn thing

brazen herald
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It took me about 1 hour. And 30 minutes was me not following the installation instructions 😂

random hedge
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at first i tried without docker, it was a mess. i had to upgrade my python.
it broke some other stuff and even then it was failing to install HA

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then i started with a fresh dietpi OS install with docker, still errors in the docker container

brazen herald
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Why DietPi?

random hedge
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because i dont want all of the bloatware that i had with the original rpi OS

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it was recommended over on reddit.. guess that was a fail

brazen herald
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Try Debian 🙂

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Or headless raspbian

random hedge
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ill give Debian a shot.

brazen herald
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Any headless OS will be lighter.

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Though running a pi off an SSD makes a world of difference

random hedge
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i want to be able to use VNC connect to control the pi from my phone

brazen herald
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Why VNC? You can SSH from your phone 🙂

random hedge
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not when im away from home

crude inlet
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for octoprint, I'm guessing?

brazen herald
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And if you install it right, you'll never need to touch the machine itself aside from updates.

crude inlet
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not really needed for ha

brazen herald
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OctoPrint works via reverse proxy for me

random hedge
brazen herald
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You can set up remote SSH access. You'll want remote access to HA anyway

lucid haven
# low notch it installs supervised

I guess maybe I was wrong then. Perhaps it's been so long since I installed it I'm not clear on the differences between Supervised and HA OS version. My apologies. When I get home and have access to the console I'll dig in a little further

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If I could post a screenshot here I would post the system info page where it says "Installation Type Home Assistant OS"

low notch
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yeah no idea why it reports as haos that's all I can tell you

lucid haven
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Also whenever there is an update to Home Assistant OS, it shows me an update is available in the HA UI with the option to install the OS update. Which I always keep up to date. I was pretty certain I was running HA OS..

brazen herald
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That's Supervised too

crude inlet
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@lucid haven either way, the lxc install is unsupported so it is similar to supervised. You're running a docker ecosystem of many containers inside a container. But I believe it's the networking which makes it an issue

lucid haven
# brazen herald That's Supervised too

I see. My mistake for not recognizing the difference. I might have to try and spin up a VM and install HA OS to see if I notice any improvements from my current install

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It's just confusing with the language used. When the UI provides the option to update "home assistant OS", it made me assume that I was running HA OS and not supervised. But when @low notch pointed out the lines in the install script show ha supervised being installed I realized that wasn't the case. I did a manual install of HA Supervised a long time ago and wasn't happy with the results. This was before there was an easy solution to install an HA OS on a proxmox VM.

vestal hound
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Hey all, I'm running HAOS 8.5, HA 2022.11.1, and Supervisor 2022.11.0. I'm stuck in that update fail loop. I've tried running the posted script in the forums, but it doesn't not appear to "stick". Supervisor seems just stuck on that broken version. Any tips?

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FWIW i ran the script right from my VMware Remote Console, the equivalent of hooking up a mouse/keyboard.

sick thunder
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So I have a dumb question. I let my SD card fail in my Pi and didn't have a recent backup. I was able to forensically extract a partial backup from a week ago. When I reinstall on a fresh sd card then restore from the WebUI it hangs forever. Is there a trick to get it to go through?

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Like should I set up a local user then upload then restore?

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I think everything was backed up but SSL and I got the keys back

copper steppe
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@lucid haven haos on proxmox vm works good. suggest using the one-liner scripts to install. Soooo easy.

dark jetty
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So I can’t figure this one out. My oracle VM virtualbox was having issues starting up. I uninstalled it and reinstalled virtualbox. Now the VM starts, but it starts up in emergency mode. Once it’s booted I have tons of errors. Being in the CLI, I did the “ha backups restore slug” to my latest working copy. I did a ha host reboot. But I’m still starting up in emergency mode, and still getting EXT4-fs error. Any help?

lucid haven
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I just got home from work and had a chance to inspect my HA install a little more. My system info screen says: Host Operating System Home Assistant OS 9.3. When I log into the OS console it says: Welcome to Home Assistant OS. As far as I knew I was running HA OS for the last few years until I was told today that I can't run HA OS in an LXC container. I'm not sure any more, definitely confused. I originally tried both a VM and a LXC container but decided to go with the LXC container because it performed noticeably better than the VM install on my machine that has limited resources. I did move some services off my HA machine to their own dedicated hardware so it might be worth a revisit running HA in a VM instead of in an LXC container. I haven't had any issues but for the sake of keeping current I'll have to give it a shot sometime.

dark jetty
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EXT4-fs error (device sda8) in ext4-free_inode:360: Corrupt filesystem

dark jetty
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Found this online: Press kentery when the system stops during boot systemct1 stop systemd-journald umount A /dev/disk/by-label/hassos-data fsck.ext4 /dev/ disk/by-label/hassos-data
Keep pressing enter through all the prompts.

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I have no idea what it did tbh. But I was able to ha host reboot after hitting enter thru all the prompts and HA started up without any errors

dark jetty
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An issue I’m still noticing. It still starts in emergency mode. So after the computer reboots, the Vmservicetray won’t autostart the VM. How do I get it out of emergency mode??

humble mirage
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The answer will be in why it's going into emergency mode

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Still, complaints about corrupt file systems ... those aren't a good sign

dark jetty
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It’s not notifying me that there’s corrupt files anymore after I did the above (my message at 10:04pm)

humble mirage
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10:04 ... your time, which isn't my time 😉

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That it happened at all isn't great, but I'm assuming you had the VM crash

dark jetty
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Lol true. I did the steps that I found online (mentioned a couple messages above) to get rid of the errors.
But still having issues with the Vmservicetray starting up. And I just got an aeotec z-wave stick 7 that I can’t pass thru the VM yet. Troubleshooting that too

tough burrow
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Hello install Home Assistent OS of Docker ?

humble mirage
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What?

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Home Assistant OS is an operating system, not a container

sick thunder
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So I was able to recover most of my stuff from my old disk. I lost my names for all 150 zigbee devices and 30 zwave devices. Does anyone know where this data was stored so I can copy the file over?

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I don't really want to have to go refigure out names and automation syncs

humble mirage
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That's going to be in the .storage/ folder - along with a load of other important files

sick thunder
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Yeah, i found it core.entity_registration

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Just haven't been successful in getting it to stick

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I scp'd over and restarted but all my ZHA groups are unnamed. Just group 7 vs what they used to be.

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It reloaded everything in the UI

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Just not the integrations

humble mirage
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Did you copy over the entire folder, or try to cherry pick single files?

fair nebula
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Hello guys I have HA Supervisor running in a VM which is great until like this week i have had my Unraid server down for a few days. Which got me to thinking (i know dangerous) is it possible to have a designated system to run HA that jumps in if the server goes down. I have similar running pihole on 2 Pi's if one goes dow the other jumps in to take over?

sick thunder
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I copied over the zigbee db in the past and it was corrupted

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Everything is back except the zigbee groups

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err ZHA

obsidian badger
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I am trying to install docker compose prior to installing HA Container

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When I went to install docker compose I got this

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
docker-compose-plugin is already the newest version (2.12.2~raspbian-bullseye).
The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
  libfuse2
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove it.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ docker compose version
Docker Compose version v2.12.2
pi@raspberrypi:~ $```
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Did the convenience script install compose too?

low notch
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probably, did you try docker compose or docker-compose?

humble scaffoldBOT
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@obsidian badger I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
obsidian badger
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Thats what I get when trying docker compose

low notch
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then that is installed

obsidian badger
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Oh nice, thank you

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Is compose headless or is there a web gui to access?

low notch
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no gui

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your gui is the dockerand docker compose

obsidian badger
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No problem, good time for me to start learning a bit more about it

obsidian badger
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services:
  homeassistant:
    container_name: homeassistant
    image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable"
    volumes:
      - /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config
      - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
    restart: unless-stopped
    privileged: true
    network_mode: host```
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Is there a recommended directory structure for the "path to your config" bit

low notch
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it is up to you to keep things tidy

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i prefer to have my docker-compose in ~/docker/ and their data in subfolders within

obsidian badger
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If I made a docker directory at the top level, and then a config in that, would I replace PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG with /docker/config

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or is that an instruction to compose to use the containers path to my config?

brisk willow
prime harness
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Since 2022.12 philips tv integration dont work anymore

gloomy void
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I need some assistance getting up and running. I've tried everything and can't seem to figure it out. I used Ubuntu and installed HA on a Wyse 5020. When I reboot, I get a Secure Boot message that says "Image failed to verify with ACCESS DENIED Press any key to continue". When I press a key it takes me to a screen that has >>Start PXE over IPv4. on the top left....anyone know how to resolve this?

humble mirage
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If you're using HAOS the computer has to support UEFI

gloomy void
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How would I find out if the computer support UEFI? Sorry, I'm very new to this but really want to get started on it and learning.

humble mirage
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Check the BIOS, which if it supports UEFI will talk about UEFI a lot

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(because at that point it's not technically the BIOS any more)

gloomy void
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It shows boot mode as UEFI under advanced in BIOS

humble mirage
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That's a good start

gloomy void
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Thanks @humble mirage - I was able to resolve it by disabling secure boot in bios....

placid sage
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HEllo

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Can i add the clean air OPTIMA CA-707 to homeassistant ?

crisp bough
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For those who installed HAOS to a PC to exclusively run HA (not using a VM), do you use anything to access the console window from another PC? So you don't have to have a separate monitor/keyboard for it?

oblique echo
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@crisp bough install the ssh add-on, and then you can access remotely

random hedge
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Hi everyone, i have desperately tried to install HA without doing the whole HA OS thing since i wanted to do more with my raspberry pi.

I wanted to ask, is it possible to run more things on HA OS? Stuff like python scripts, or Octoprint

oblique echo
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I don't know that I'd want to run octoprint on the same pi as a bunch of other stuff. Seems like a good way to wind up with a bunch of artifacts in your prints.

random hedge
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I currently have Octoprint+homebridge+constantly running python script without any issues

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I was able to install HA using Docker and its running well but i think i am missing a lot of things. No addon store to be found anywhere

nimble zealot
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I have a question. Up to now, I have only ever dealt with Docker Compose. But now I read that Docker Compose is not really good for HA and that there are no addons for it. Is that correct?

low notch
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docker compose bad? no

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docker compose with haos bad? yes

nimble zealot
low notch
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that is alright

bold mantle
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Hello, does anyone have experience with HAOS on rpi3b+ with booting from usb?

nimble zealot
# low notch that is alright

Then maybe I did something right after all 🙂 But how do I add a new device from Meross, for example? Here I am a bit in despair.

low notch
nimble zealot
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I'll take a look - thanks!

dark jetty
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Virtualbox VM starting in emergency mode. Getting error:

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sulogin: tcgetattr failed: input/output error

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Can anyone help clear this error?

dusty palm
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Anyone here know how to get access to the host OS remotely?

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Trying to execute a command in a addon container, but it seems like hassos is designed to prevent access to the base os?

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I just want to: podman exec -ti <container> /bin/bash

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Er... I guess it's docker around here, though. 🙂

pulsar oxide
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i gave you the command. did it not work?

dark jetty
copper steppe
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@dusty palm you can install the "SSH & Web Terminal" addon, which adds a docker container, and lets you ssh into that. Where you can do most things...

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But it's not the native haos.

crude inlet
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But I would make use of the SSH & Web Terminal add-on (the one from the community add-on section, not the core). Disable protection mode in the add-on config, and then you can use docker commands to get in containers

dusty palm
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I didn't realize there was a community add-on that allowed you to disable the protection mode.

dark jetty
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Is my issue hardware or software?

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If it’s software I’m just about ready to delete everything and start over

copper steppe
#

looks like your VM is trying to touch a ... serial port? Maybe it doesn't have any?

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Maybe just enable serial port in your virtualbox config

zealous schooner
zealous schooner
copper steppe
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I ran haos on virtualbox with no problems for a bit. Sec, have a meeting now

dark jetty
tiny vector
#

Howdy, trying to get up and running but cant seem to communicate with HA.

Installed HA OS on PI4 and am trying to communicate to a different port on the router. Router sees port being used, but is sending no data.
DNS Address not found when going to homeassistant.local:8123

copper steppe
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if homeassistant.local is not working, your mdns isn't working on your lan

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try the ip address

pulsar oxide
#

what do you mean, you're trying to communicate on a different port? instead of 8123?

tiny vector
#

@copper steppe - cmd cant find pi to get address (when i connect to my switch, it communicates fine)

copper steppe
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check your router/dhcp server to see what address it got.
or use "arp" to see if you can spot it

tiny vector
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@pulsar oxide - HA connected to port 2 or router, network switch connected to port 4 of router (meant to specify on OP)

copper steppe
#

SHouldn't matter which port it's using on your router, that's just a switch for the lan anyway, right?

tiny vector
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that was my thought.... when i plugged it into a random wall port, it worked fine (but wasn't in the location i officially wanted it)

pulsar oxide
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and your wall outlet is plugged into the switch?

tiny vector
#

correct

pulsar oxide
#

and what if you plug it into 1 or 3?

copper steppe
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or plug it into the switch.

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unless your router has a special "WAN" port which is not like the others

tiny vector
#

I will try port 3 next
port 2 is technically a "wan/lan" port, but is reading as lan

pulsar oxide
#

that was what i was wondering. if one of the ports was set up different

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Like some switches will only take an input in port 1

tiny vector
#

ill give it a few more minutes, but switching to port 3 "lan only" port showing same result

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after that, my thought is to find a monitor to take down there to see if its mad about something (unless there are any more thoughts)

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well, interestingly enough...port 3 worked.
odd, since security cameras still communicate over port 2.. so probably one of those random things/settings. Either way, it is "Preparing" now.
3rd party help was much appreciated.

next stop, the integrations thread 😋

dark jetty
#

I enabled COM4 in the serial port vm settings

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Now the z-wave stick shows under the home assistant hardware list

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Unfortunately the vm is still starting in emergency mode with the same error as before:

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sulogin: tcgetattr failed: Input/output error

pulsar oxide
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im not very up on VMs and i'm late to the convo but do you still get the error with the usb unplugged?

dark jetty
#

Yes

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This error is driving me crazy. I can’t find too much on it via Google

pulsar oxide
#

some shots in the dark

#

did you specify a baud rate for the serial port

dark jetty
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I don’t see that setting “baud rate”. The only settings I can do are:

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Port number, IRQ, I/O port, port mode, path/address

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And mine are:
Port Number: COM4

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IRQ: 3

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I/O port: 0x2E8

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Port Mode: Host Device

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Path/Address: COM4

pulsar oxide
#

i think the path address needs to be something like /dev/tty.device_id

#

what is you main OS?

dark jetty
#

Windows 10

pulsar oxide
#

hmm and no access to a linux or mac?

dark jetty
#

Nope😂 this vm is in ubunto which i think is linux?

pulsar oxide
#

well i think you need the device name of the stick and you can easily get it from another os

dark jetty
#

Gotcha I see what you’re saying. I have the device name of the stick. I got that from the HA hardware list

pulsar oxide
#

you could enable the windows subsystem and install a lite version of linux to get it

#

that's probably a generic device name but what is it

dark jetty
#

Yes it is in the format you were talking about. It is /dev/ttyUSB0

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That’s the device path I listed^

pulsar oxide
#

what ha hardware list are you referring to

dark jetty
#

From home assistant: settings -> system -> hardware -> 3 dots in top right corner -> All Hardware

pulsar oxide
#

I thought you couldn't fire up the VM. you have ha installed somewhere else?

dark jetty
#

It starts in emergency mode

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It gives me the option to hit cntrl+D to continue

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So I can’t use the VboxVmservicetray to keep it running in the background

pulsar oxide
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ah. let me ask you this. when setting up the vm. did you create a device filter

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in the usb section

dark jetty
#

Yessir. I have two USB device filters:

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First one: cygnal integrated products, INC CP210x UART Brodge / myAVR mySmartUSB light [0100]

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Second: Silicon Labs CP2102N USB to UART Bridge Controller [0100]

pulsar oxide
#

can you delete them and try to start the vm back up with your original serial settings

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these ones:
Port Number: COM4
IRQ: 3
I/O port: 0x2E8
Port Mode: Host Device
Path/Address: COM4

dark jetty
#

I deleted the two USB filters and restarted the VM. It still puts me in “you are in emergency mode.”

pulsar oxide
#

ok. one more try. just put the path address as com3

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and the mode as host device

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leave the top 3 blank

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or however they were

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or did it auto set them?

dark jetty
#

It auto set the top 3

pulsar oxide
#

did you sgo in to guest setting too?

dark jetty
#

Sgo guest setting? Not sure where that’s located in the vm?

#

which states to use this fix:
Press <enter> when the system stops during boot
systemctl stop systemd-journald
umount -A /dev/disk/by-label/hassos-data
fsck.ext4 /dev/disk/by-label/hassos-data
Keep pressing <enter> through all the prompts

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but i've tried that before, and it doesn't fix it for me

fervent pelican
#

Im trying to install home assistant on my rpi 3. But it seems to get stuck while booting. Here is the last thing it shows me before doing nothing https://imgur.com/hMeEUWt

pulsar oxide
#

@dark jetty is there a Client Connections section?

calm onyx
#

Quick question : I have an august lock that came with a hub, an Orvibo hub and a trafdi hub. Do I really need this much hubs to connect all these brands? If not, how do I linked them to a single hub?

brisk willow
#

@fervent pelican what happens if you go to http://x.x.x.x:8123 where x.x.x.x is the IP address of the pi?

pulsar oxide
#

@calm onyx 3 hubs?

fervent pelican
#

maybe the ip changed lemme try getting it again

calm onyx
fervent pelican
#

Nope, still cant connect

pulsar oxide
#

Thue august hub might be a bridge for the lock depending on what model it is. The Orvibo one is for if you have zigbee devices and im not sure about the trafdi thing

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don't know that its a hub

brisk willow
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Tradfri hub is zigbee

dark jetty
#

using bridged adapter

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ethernet

pulsar oxide
#

what verion of virtual box are u on

dark jetty
#

7.0.4

brisk willow
pulsar oxide
dark jetty
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yes. thats where i provided you with the settings from. when you had me change to com3

pulsar oxide
#

so you had it setup in the serial tab and in the usb tab?

dark jetty
#

yes, both locations. apparently thats needed for the aeotec stick

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ok so i unplugged the USB, shutdown windows, restarted PC, restarted VM and hallelujah: started normal. did not start in emergency. idk why it works now, but it does. i've restarted windows a billion times these past 72 hours. VboxVmservicetray doesn't start/run in background, i'm looking into this now

pulsar oxide
#

it always turns out to be something simple

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theres a lot of people talking about unplugging/replugging the usb in a specific order

#

it wouldn't hurt for you to install the guest additions now that you're in

dark jetty
#

lol i know right. HA has been installed/working since late 2020/early 2021 on my computer but these past 3 days it's been wanting to start in emergency mode. never seen that before this past week.

#

what are the guest additions?

pulsar oxide
#

extra vm stuff that you install on the guest vm has extra features for the outside-the-box stuff

dark jetty
#

gotcha. i will look into a guest vm. i barely have this HA VM working lmao

pulsar oxide
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i hear ya

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never turn it off! lol

dark jetty
#

that's why i'm trying to figure out how to keep it running in the background now and to autostart with Windows

pulsar oxide
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go to the machine section in virtualbox and create a shortcut and then take that shortcut from the desktop and put it in your startup folder

dark jetty
astral sequoia
#

Every now and then, I receive a warning that someone tried and failed to log into my HA instance. Sometimes it's family members, and I'm guessing sometimes it's hackers. But I can't tell, because it shows the IP of my inbound nginx instead of the real IP. a) where would I go about changing that b) can I somewhere see the IP of connected clients/accounts ?

lost mural
#

how long is it supposed to take when you install a backup upon first start-up of a new HAOS system? ish? mine's been working for at least 10 min now...seems very long?

humble mirage
#

Depends on the size of the backup, the speed of the device you're restoring it to, etc

paper furnace
# 
22-06-02 18:14:42 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec```

How to solve this problem?

full text here https://pastebin.com/XSjtNPKz

I get this error log while preparing to install HAOS on RPi3b
heady glen
#

Hey guys, where did they put the restore backup button on the initial setup screen? Does any know where I can upload my backup files to? I'm using the latest docker image. :/

humble mirage
#

There's no restore option unless you're using HAOS

lost mural
humble mirage
#

No idea... I don't use HAOS

latent bear
warped hearth
lost mural
latent bear
brisk willow
warped hearth
#

My assumption is that manual cannot auto-update, and HACS probably has some form of update checking. Have not used HACS.

brisk willow
#

Yeah, your HA installation method is (mostly) irrelevant when it comes to installing custom integrations. HACS does provide a frontend for installing and updating custom integrations. I don't use a lot of custom things so I just manage that myself without HACS

fringe phoenix
#

Anyone familiar with Multus? From what I've read, it's what I need to enable device discovery/mdns for Home Assistant Core on Kubernetes (in my case, K3S on raspberry pis)

#

It's easy enough to install, but configuration is... well, networking was never easy for me

warped hearth
brisk willow
#

That's exactly what I do 😄

warped hearth
#

Any chance you're using docker-compose?

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Oh, or did you mean symlink

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If it was symlink... HA doesn't seem to like my symlink. Extracting the folder to custom_components, it shows up in integrations. replace it with symlink, does not show up;.

brisk willow
#

Both

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The symlink will need to point to the path in the container

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It will show as invalid on the host but will work in the container

warped hearth
#

That's some deep stuff. I'm going to remote into the container to make the link 🙂

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@brisk willow Sweet, up and running!

paper furnace
lost mural
latent bear
#

Glad that you've figured it out!

river bough
#

Good evening, I have an HA VirtualBox server that I attempted to update to 2022.12.0. When the update finished, the web gui went nuts. It just keeps constantly restarting and losing connection. I rebooted the VM, but I am unable to do anything in the GUI. I can briefly navigate around, but it will restart after a couple seconds. I cannot launch the update to 2022.12.1. Any thoughts?

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I can't even restore backup via CLI, just give me a check supervisor message

placid sage
#

Can I get help

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Hmmm can't attach an image ..

#

I can't connect to nabu casa in Google home. This is an initial setup, but I did do a trial a couple years ago

orchid pebble
placid sage
#

Trying to figure out how to attach a pic.

#

On connections to Nabu from Google home, it says...

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"could not reach home assistant cloud. Please try again"

orchid pebble
placid sage
#

Tried a few days ago as well

#

I'm almost certain it is. Did a docker update

#

But I'm confused because Google home isn't even asking for a login prompt

orchid pebble
#

but home assistant itself is connected to nabucasa?

placid sage
#

I thought they were the same

#

Oh yes

#

But like

#

No

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For Remote UI, it connects and shows the url

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But if I refresh the Nabu page, the showing it's connected disappears!

orchid pebble
#

try disabling ipv6

placid sage
#

Ok, I'll have to try to figure out how to go into the docker container to do that ig

#

I wish my iq was above 40

#

Can't find the nmcli command

#

Where is supervisor in the ui

#

I can't follow the instructions at all. It's like its for a really old.version of the software.

brisk willow
#

How did you install home assistant?

placid sage
#

Via docker

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Currently in UNRAID

#

All the documentation on these topics seem to be on older versions. People in threads having the same complaints of not being able to follow them 😓

placid sage
#

Goodnight..

craggy girder
#

How do I fix the onboarding error

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It says try refreshing, i tried it but its still loading

manic bane
orchid pebble
placid sage
#

hey all, new to this whole thing, just got a server running Rocky 9 trying to get Home Assistant up and running, but having some issues on the creating new VM step, i get an error when i try to install. any help would be greatly appreciated!

humble mirage
#

Explain what guide you're trying to follow, and what the error is

placid sage
humble mirage
#

Which of the four there?

placid sage
#

KVM

humble mirage
#

And ... which of the two KVM options there?

placid sage
#

manager

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error says unable to complete install: internal error : qemu unexpected closed the monitor

#

A port already exsists by that name

humble mirage
#

FYI, it's better if you copy and paste errors, rather than retyping them

placid sage
#

i know, its 2 seperate machines

humble mirage
#

Networking exists for a reason 😉

#

A quick Google points to QEMU issues

placid sage
#

i know, i said i'm new to all this, i'm still learning, i just had to redo the whole thing, i know little to nothing about servers i'm also setting up remote access and all that too, i'm getting there, lol

humble mirage
#

I'd maybe try virt-install to see if that's caused by virt-manager

#

SSH is your friend though

placid sage
#

ok that worked, thanks, but now it asking for my home assistant login, did i miss something? i don't think i created one yet

#

?

paper furnace
# 
22-06-02 18:14:42 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec```


How to solve this problem?

full text here https://pastebin.com/XSjtNPKz

I get this error log while preparing to install HAOS on RPi3b
tough void
#

Hi!! I'm a big fan of HA, one relative's installation has problems...

#

2022-12-10 11:54:18 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant] Error doing job: protocol.resume_writing() failed Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/asyncio/transports.py", line 294, in _maybe_resume_protocol self._protocol.resume_writing() File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/asyncio/sslproto.py", line 517, in resume_writing self._app_protocol.resume_writing() File "/usr/local/lib/python3.8/site-packages/aiohttp/base_protocol.py", line 31, in resume_writing assert self._paused AssertionError

glad crow
tough void
#

I can't update (more than a year since last update) and can't access installation from ssh, neither to administrator panel

manic bane
tough void
#

hassio image in a RP3

manic bane
tough void
#

yes

manic bane
#

Wasn't to you

tough void
#

sorry

manic bane
#

So can you log in to the instance or is it just not working at all

paper furnace
tough void
#

version of HA is in my broken instance is Home Assistant 2021.1.5

manic bane
manic bane
tough void
low notch
#

You should first get access

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Then think about updating

paper furnace
manic bane
paper furnace
manic bane
#

Then no clue sorry

tough void
low notch
#

moar access!

placid sage
placid sage
wide willow
#

There's no add ons, because the add-ons require the supervisor

#

How did you install HA?

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Docker?

placid sage
#

Ah, yes.

#

So I need to move to a vm

wide willow
#

Docker doesn't have the supervisor

placid sage
#

What is supervisor

wide willow
#

It's what "runs" home assistant on some systems, kind of

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Keeps the containers in control, handles errors and things

placid sage
#

So should I install a Ubuntu 22.04 vm?

wide willow
#

If you want a VM, you can download the image from the website

placid sage
#

Image?

wide willow
#

Keep in mind, most add-ons can just run in a sperate docker container that you can tell home assistant to use

wide willow
placid sage
#

Tbh, I just want Nabu casa to work...

wide willow
#

Home assistant cloud works in all installation methods

placid sage
#

Wait, I have to install a pre-made vm image to use HA? That's insane...

wide willow
#

Settings > Home Assistant Cloud

wide willow
placid sage
#

No, it isn't

#

It's practically unheard of

wide willow
#

You can install from an ISO, but you're still basically getting the same end result

#

The image is everything already out together for you

placid sage
#

That isn't a pre-made image then..

wide willow
#

It is a pre-made image

placid sage
#

I see it has a premade image, I'm just saying that that is extremely uncommon way to distribute software

#

That's all

wide willow
#

Many people distribute pre-made images

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Like VMware for example

#

And most things that run on a raspberry pi.

low notch
#

its just a bare minimum os with docker, all the images get downloaded on first boot

placid sage
#

Sorry, I did misspeak. I mean VM images, not iso files.

#

I'm out for now. This is all just a mess. Why release a docker image if it doesn't work.

wide willow
#

What doesn't work about it?

#

Is there a particular issue you're having?

placid sage
#

Nabu casa can't connect.

wide willow
#

What's the error?

placid sage
#

It sure would be nice if screenshots were allowed. One sec

#

On the "Remote UI" screen of Nabu, when you tell it to connect, it appears to and the url is associated.

but, even just on a page refresh, it disconnects/disappears

wide willow
#

Does the card say "Logged in and Connected"?

low notch
placid sage
#

On google-home/assistant, I can't connect to nabu service initially, saying some error about not being able to connect. Doesnt even ask for credentials

manic bane
wide willow
placid sage
#

I'm not looking to be banned. If images are not allowed, I'll be bypassing rules. I've been banned from servers for that before. This is such a hostile community. Why try to trick me.

wide willow
#

Everyone here uses imgur once in a while

#

It's not banned

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@wise trout Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

manic bane
#

Its an approved method

#

This is not a hostile community even if you think it is

wide willow
#

If you are having issues with home assistant cloud you can go to https://www.nabucasa.com/support/

I'm not trying to be hostile - If I came off as such, that is my bad.

placid sage
#

I was up most of the night on this and am resulting cranky, sorry for assuming @manic bane was trying to get me banned.

It's a "funny" thing to do to people in discord on servers.

#

I sincerely apologize the way I was speaking, it wasn't right of me

wide willow
#

You're completely fine - I've been extremely cranky trying to get home assistant things setup too, so it's not just you 😅

brisk willow
#

Sorry, couldn't resist

#

Tbf I don't use Nabu Casa, but that should work regardless of installation method

wide willow
#

The only reason I use it is because I got so frustrated trying to do things manually I just gave them my money because I didn't care anymore

placid sage
#

Lol*

placid sage
brisk willow
#

😩

storm sluice
#

am i missing something?

#

how does wsl work if vms are forbidden

placid sage
#

Because IT and Management don't understand tech very well and it hasn't been classified as such 🙂

low notch
#

company assistant? peepocookie

vivid breach
#

What is the proper process to upgrade HA when using Docker Compose? The documentation feels a little disjointed when it comes to processes like this.

grand pivot
vivid breach
#

Thanks, I followed a similar Stack Overflow post in the end.

placid sage
#

what am i missing? i'm using the linux guide on the HA website using KVM, manager didn't work so i did the install and it ran, now its asking for HA creds? i saw that root gets me some options, but the next step in the guide is to run the VM....?

storm sluice
#

who is asking for credentials?

placid sage
#

after i ran the install command line, it asked for HA login info

storm sluice
#

like in the terminal?

#

odd never seen that

#

it really should only create and run the vm

crude inlet
#

@placid sage link to a screenshot?

manic bane
#

Ah if you're trying to use login on the SSH add on it will ask for creds

placid sage
#

yea im not getting this. i tried to do it all again and now it says its in use by other guests and i try the check command but its giving an error too

#

im gonna put discord on there so i can share better

storm sluice
#

makes sense the virt-install command will try to create a new vm

craggy girder
#

Is it worth setting ha up on a pi 3 b+

#

With a couple of lights

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And 2 cameras

humble mirage
#

Depends on what your other choices are

manic bane
#

@humble mirage nice festive pfp

humble mirage
#

Gotta get in festive spirit. Or at least, get the festive spirits inside 🥃

robust crescent
#

Just bought a house that looks to use Enbrighten By GE which uses Z-wave. I have never gotten my Nortek USB to get the z-wave working, Anyone willing to help me configure it?

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@robust crescent Please do not cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

humble mirage
robust crescent
#

k

placid sage
#

if anyone else has tips or advice, i'd gladly take it 😀

low notch
#

Seems like there is a instance already running

placid sage
craggy girder
#

will ha run on a windows tablet that is 32bit

#

hp stream 7

fleet spruce
#

Hey all!

I just followed the instructions to upgrade HA on a Pi and now when I navigate to the HA page, it's taking me to the onboarding process again... but I can see all the files in my homeassistant folder... Anyone know what's going wrong?

#

I followed these instructions for docker, under the "update" tab:

#

I'm an idiot... I missed obvious steps...

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@fleet spruce I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
fleet spruce
#

The colon after /homeassistant and before /config is important... obviously... but I'm dumb today... -v /homeassistant:/config

brisk willow
#

you should check out docker-compose; it makes things quite a bit easier to manage

manic bane
craggy girder
#

ive got 3 pi 3 b+'s but idk what to do with them

manic bane
craggy girder
#

i see

#

do you think i could run motioneye on the pi?

low notch
#

sure

craggy girder
#

ok

proud pilot
#

Hi All, I'm about as noob as it gets to home assistant, I've been researching and setting it up for 2/3 days now. I've connected my HA instance to my Kodi instance and i noticed that i am not seeing thumbnails under Media in music, video, , tv show, or channels. However, when an item is playing, I can see album art in a card. Is this a bug? How can this be fixed? I'm pretty savy with kodi and i strongly believe it is not on on kodi side. All thumbs on the webui of kodi display properly and can be sent out over api call

humble mirage
proud pilot
#

sure, thank you

red sage
#

Hi. I’m running HAOS on a RPi and SSD. Upgrading from 2022.11.3 to 12.1 has been running for 3d minutes (and counting). Included backup, but backup typically takes 5 or 10 min. Should I let it keep running or…? Thx

tender ferry
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Hi all. Is HAOS actively supported? Been trying to get it installed on a ThinkCentre m72e Tiny using the guidance here: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64 however getting Error 1962: No OS found on boot. I've ensured UEFI is enabled and secure boot isn't but no joy so far

grand pivot
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those ThinkCentre boxes can reject OSs that they don't whitelist

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how did you install the HA image?

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did you do it on the ThinkCentre, or flash it somewhere else and then install it in the machine?

tender ferry
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Tried a direct copy to SSD from my windows box, and then tried direct on the machine using a live cd. Used BalenaEtcher both times with same result

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Only thing I haven't tried yet is adding the EFI entry

grand pivot
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I had to fight with exactly that a few months ago

red sage
tender ferry
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I could go the docker route, but as this machine will be purely for HA it seems a bit pointless

grand pivot
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it helped to do the installation directly on the machine via USB drive, rather than configuring it elsewhere

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but yes, there are lots of instructions on the web for creating the right EFI entries

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it really wants Windows

tender ferry
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Thanks Rob, I'll give that a go and see how far I get with it. Windows is the last thing I ever want to install on it 😄

grand pivot
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it was a giant pain in the neck, but I was just installing Debian

tender ferry
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It's never easy is it

grand pivot
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I wasted a day or two swapping drives back and forth and cursing that machine

tender ferry
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I have a feeling I'll be doing exactly the same

grand pivot
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just add a Windows EFI entry that points to the entry for HA

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do it on the ThinkCentre with the drive installed and via a USB drive live Linux install, not on some other machine

tender ferry
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I've just tried that but no joy. I might just have to go down the docker router

grand pivot
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you'll probably need to do the same thing for a regular Debian Linux install to be able to use a container install

storm sluice
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so even if you select the drive it doesnt find anything?

tender ferry
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I've decided to go with proxmox. The guy I bought the machine from had his set up like that originally before buying new hardware, and seems to be going well so far. Thanks for all the help with it Rob

tender ferry
young pulsar
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Hi all, im trying to setup a supervised version of HA and am having issues during the ping for checkonline.home-assistant.io getting 100% packet loss, also cant acces it via browser. Anyone got any ideas?

humble mirage
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Do you mean Home Assistant OS, or did you really mean the Supervised installer?

young pulsar
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Supervised

humble mirage
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That's a terrible choice

young pulsar
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OS does not give me root level access via ssh for use with vscode etc

humble mirage
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You ... don't need root access

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Your problem above is either DNS or networking related

crude inlet
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Hey nice Xmas lights @humble mirage

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Oh now I'm seeing others.

humble mirage
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You can have them too 😉

grim veldt
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Not sure where to ask this, but I have an Insteon PLM I’m trying to integrate with HA. I’ve attached the PLM via Serial to USB and the serial to USB is present inside HAOS.

humble mirage
grim veldt
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Thank you

copper steppe
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Morning all @tender ferry did you get your install sorted? I had no problems on m910q

crude inlet
jade chasm
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im somewhat new to HA, but i've been using it for almost a week now, and i would like to add the virtual disks i've created on vmware, with the HA OVA. Everything is installed and running, but im limited to the storage that's preconfigured. I read through the docs, and it hasn't
helped me achieve my end goal.

I have a 32 GB virtual drive and 248 GB virtual drive in addition to the default 8GB drive it has.

is there a way to actually use the storage, or am I wasting my time?

copper steppe
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(what I'd do) If you're using HAOS, just make a backup, then reinstall it with a bigger disk, then restore the backup.

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There might be smarter/resize ways, but I don't know vmware specifcially

fallen lichen
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Right, is there a reason for the 3 separate virtual drives you have instead of growing the existing

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HAOS will autoexpand if you grow the disk it's already on

jade chasm
grand pivot
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I thought it was expanded to 32GB a long time ago

jade chasm
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it says the max size (OVA) is 8gb for disk size with the OS on it.

manic bane
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But you download the ova from the ha website. Which should be 32gb

jade chasm
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you're right. user error. I got the virtual disks mixed up. Removed the duplicates and expanded the capacity of the disk

proud pilot
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Trying to setup a camera petfeeder that is powered by tuya, i was able to get the pet feeder to install using both the supported tuya integration and the localtuya integration, but the only thing i can get it to do is turn the front light on and off.

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If i navigate into the device and toggle any of the flip toggles or try to view the camera, i get nothing

craggy cosmos
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Idk what i' doing wrong. I cant get home assistant OS to install on my rpi4. I managed to get Raspian to install.

copper steppe
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not helpful. you should say what you're doing, what is happening, and how that's unexpected.

craggy cosmos
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( i hit enter too soon)
I get it to begin boot. it runs a bunch of code, with green oks, but goes blank "early", when compared to a youtube video that shows the code running. no errors show when going through the OKs

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i've attempted through ssd with usb boot, two different sd cards. all stop approximately in the same spot

copper steppe
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is it changing video mode to something your monitor doesn't support?

craggy cosmos
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I don't think so? Best way to test that? running to acer ips monitor. raspian will go through to the monitor