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drifting grove
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Yes, I am running blue. I am used to linux, but not containers
#330990055533576204 seems to be an archived channel, so I am not sure where to ask.
You are right it does not survive a reboot. I will look at the link you sent. Thanks.
What is an esp32?

winged knoll
dim jasper
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is #hardware-archived a good place to vent about smart deadbolts? lol. i'm trying to decide if i should add another yale/august and live with the battery issues or jump over to something better.

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i also have a kwikset 914 with a zwave chip that used be happily connected through Wink and i'm looking at zigbee modules on ebay for that. seems like that might be interesting as well.

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but my wife would love having the same hardware twice anywhere in the house

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the yale / august setup is pretty reasonable. i was using a konnected module to sense the front door open/close and send a lock command but that died so i threw a sonoff door sensor on it. it all seems to work

dim jasper
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but i feel like i need to put an esp module on the batteries so i can have some idea what state they are in. the august app doesn't show their level and HA's reporting seems strange

undone haven
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I have kwikset 916s zwave and love them. Batteries last about a year. Others don’t seem to be so fond of them but they have never done me wrong.

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They are expensive

dim jasper
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@undone haven what are you using to talk to them?

undone haven
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The Aeotec gen5 zwave stick. I would ask in #zwave-archived about sticks though. Mine is outdated but I am not sure how stable the 700 series are

dim jasper
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when wink died and i picked up the yale/august, i was pretty happy to have an app to set codes and also have door sense.

undone haven
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Sure, you can set codes using zwavejs

dim jasper
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oh nice!

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my integration through wink was something that was pretty nice for 2014 but ...

undone haven
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Mine are deadbolts….no door state

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But don’t really care about door state cause I get it another way

dim jasper
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i'm getting door state through zonoff zigbee modules since my konnected stopped working.

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i have a z-stick s2 in my bin. that's probably super ancient

undone haven
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Yea, I get door state through my 2gig panel and alarm.com. The gen5 is not expensive. Again, if you are thinking of going zwave, you really should pick the brains of the experts in #zwave-archived

dim jasper
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right on. thanks!!

undone haven
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It’s a mesh network so…..devices matter, as well as mains devices as they repeat

dim jasper
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ah, this would be a one-off. i retired all my zwave stuff when wink died.

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i keep looking and hoping there's an open source project to marry up a cheap button lock and esphome

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dealing with august support is something i could do without happily

lunar pelican
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im looking for something kinda niche

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i want a usb data smart switch, i have a 3d printer that has a smart plug and a raspberry pi for the printing server. its connected to the printer via usb, i want to be able to turn off the usb connection via home assistant, anyone heard of such a thing?

jovial needle
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Anyone know if the light sensor in Aqara motion sensors can be/ is exposed to home assistant?

oblique bear
jovial needle
oblique bear
jovial needle
turbid kiln
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hello guys. I can passthrough a bluetooth usb to hassio vm in proxmox ? I want to monitor some xiaomi mijia temperature sensors. Just wanna know if it's gonna work a system like this.

fringe moon
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You are better off buying an esp32

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And using esphome

turbid kiln
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I have some wemos d1 mini, it'll work ?

fringe moon
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Only if they are esp32

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Esp8266 doesn't have ble

turbid kiln
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thank you, I'll give a try with a usb bluetooth dongle first and after that i'll buy a esp32

wicked pine
wooden sundial
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Anyone get a Coral TPU USB recently? Any suggestions on where to track for upcoming stock?

modest flicker
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Anyone here have a good understanding of the shelly relays? I didn't realize 3-way switches complicate things and now i'm a bit lost on how to wire up my new relays.

sharp apex
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what shelly? normally you would put it at the position of the third switch just before the light

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unless where you live things are done completely differently in a three-way switch

modest flicker
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I got 2 each of the 2.5, the dimmer, and the 1PM.
The 2 dimmers are my main concern because they're dimmer AND there's multiple switches which can operate that circuit currently.

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I have a bunch planned, but this 3-way situation got me all flummoxed

sharp apex
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you've got a three way switch (that is a light you can arbitrarily switch from 3 places in the house?) with a dimmer?

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or is that just stuff you've got elswehere and the three way switch uses (or should use) the 1pm? or something completeley different?

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you should explain a bit more about your current setup. this dimmed light, can it be dimmed from different places? have never seen anything like it, how does this work? I mean with HA you can certainly do this, with classical setups ... hm?

modest flicker
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It's only dimmable at one switch, but several other switches can also toggle the on/off status. It's not a 'smart' setup at all yet.

modest flicker
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details:
I currently have a dimmable circuit that is controlled by 3 physical switches (only 1 of those 3 has a physical dimmer slider)

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I actually have 2 such circuits in my area that I'm trying to wire up.

sharp apex
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basically you put the shelly dimmer after the last switch in the chain. All other wall switches can stay the same. You must replace the dimmer against "something" that allows you to control the (knobless) shelly dimmer, if you don't want to lose that functionality.

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but maybe I am not understanding it fully, and I am not sure, I live in Austria, maybe where you live things are made differently.

modest flicker
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I also ordered a new type of “momentary” rocker switch that will be the UI element. I think I’m good there.

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Your theory of nesting the entire string of physical switching inside the dimmer’s switch loop makes sense. Why does it have to be the “last” switch? How do I know which is the last ones

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I’m in USA if that helps

sharp apex
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Because only the last one is wired up to the bulb/bulbs, and has one switched wire. At the other positions you have two wires, of which one has power. You never know, because it always changes, when one of the switches is pressed.

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at the "first" position (where there is also just one wire going in, that has always power) you can switch on/off the bulbs (by simulating what other switches in the chain do), but you cannot detect that a switch in the chain behind your device has been flicked, at least when you have turned off the power.

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(or that is how I understand it, others might have a deeper understanding and the correct terminology)

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I think you also need a "Live" wire at the position oft that last switch, to power the shelly itself. When I converted my 3-way switches, I did have. And it works very well.

modest flicker
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"live" = "neutral" right? I thought the dimmer says you dont need a "live" wire as long as there's a minimum power draw else you need that bypass. My lights are more than 10W on that circuit so I would have thought no live wire needed. Is that right?

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or is that meant as "u need 10W flowing even when everything is 'off'"?

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wait; shit... this doesn't make sense.
If I'm running with that new momentary switch to both the S1 & S2 on the dimmer device, how do I add in the loop for the original old switches.

jade arch
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Hi guys, can I ask you for your opinion? I am looking for a hardware that would be able to run 12 home assistant VM's at once using unraid server. Currently I have 5 running on inte nuc with 8GB ram (almost all the time 90-100% usage, will upgrade to 32 at least) and 20-30% CPU usage while up and running ( 50-60% on startup all instances sa

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instances simultaneously)

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CPU of the nuc is Intel core i7-10710U 1,1GHz 6-cores

winged knoll
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12 home assistant VM's
wtf

jade arch
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No I am not crazy, need to find solution for 12 house area. Also I would like to know your opinion if choose central server or decentralized solutions with Intel nuc for each house

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Area has one network

winged knoll
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The whole point is that HA is local ...

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Running it centralised is also going to cause pain with things like any network discovery integrations

gloomy elbow
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I would not recommend one host for 12 homes.

winged knoll
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Well, it's an eggs in basket thing, and helps ensure that when you break it, you really break it

gloomy elbow
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"My neighbours accidentally stole my new lightbulb and are turning it off and on" is not a problem I want to face

winged knoll
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I'd 100% do local hardware in each house, running a local HA instance

gloomy elbow
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(Accidental being the nice assumption.)

fringe moon
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What did I just walk in on

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Someone trying to make a MAN-cloud

jade arch
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Okay so 12 nucs better 😄 It's relaxing resort with 2 penzions and other stuff in it and HA will be used mainly by stuff, so there was an idea to use centralized server for potencially savings, if we was able to make enough strong server cheaper than 12 intel nucs. 😄

jade arch
fringe moon
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Make it 48 homes

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And buy a HPE Moonshot

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Usable raspberry pis, with proper storage

jade arch
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Okay just looking and same Intel Nuc that I currently using costs cca 570€ withou RAM and SSD.... That will be 6270€ for rest + RAMs and SSDs.... :/ Is it really that bad to use centralized server for my use-case ? 🙂

12 buildings - there is 2 penzions for guests, guests will be able to control just their apartment with kiosk tablet. Rest of buildings are for example restaurant, fitness, administration building, music studio etc. Client wants to have access to all of that. So there is navigation between these home assitants anyway (just for users with admin permissions). That's why I wasn't directly against centralized server - easier maintenance, less licences for unraid, MDM software running on the server aswell. I see lot of pros, to be honest the only thing that I am really concerned about is this "eggs in abasket thing" and choosing hardware that will handle it. 😄

I get that if it was 12 familly houses, it's absolutly nonsense to think about that but really in this scenario I am tempted by this idea.

winged knoll
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12 x Pi4+SSD

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The problem you'll have with the setup you're discussing is that you're going to have to have those 12 VMs connected to each home network, as if it was physically in the home.

gentle fossil
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this either sounds like a little hotel where each room has its own automations... or it is reeally really creepy to surveil 12 homes

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+1 the pi route btw

jade arch
# winged knoll The problem you'll have with the setup you're discussing is that you're going to...

Could not be a problem defacto. There is one network with subnets for each house and there is routing for loxone communication, so I am able to connect for example from house 1 to house's 2 loxone and controll it if I am in the admin gateway ( If I get network admin right, if someone connect to network in house 1 he will get for example 192.168.10.43 but servers, HA, Loxone, controlling tablets with kiosk including will be on 10.81.70.1/24. So there should not be problem with that.

mstone -> exactly, its resort with 2 hotels and rest of buildings are establishment.

winged knoll
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Discovery, and others, use mDNS

jade arch
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If what I say about network doesn't make sence sorry, I really struggle with networking and just tried to explain the situation overthere (that I get briefly explained by network guy)

winged knoll
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You'd better get all the networking done right or it's going to be pain and frustration

jade arch
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There is no need for discovery, everything I use is hacs, custom cards and all comunication is done via nodered and mqtt

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For now need to say, if there will be some other requirements from client.. doesnt know 😄

fringe moon
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Ugh clients

jade arch
winged knoll
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Other than privacy, security, backups, and stuff?

jade arch
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Can you please expand on these ? This is first time I have to handle this big complex. Intend for the system is that Management will be able to control all buildings in area from office building and for guests there will be kiosk tablets with access only to control lights and temperature in appartment that tablet belong to. With privacy I get that management should not to be able control individual apartments when guests are there.

serene falcon
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I have a dumb question about the Sonoff iFan04... I can't seem to even get a hint of it with Google. Can you change the Tasmota configuration so that the ceiling fan's light is dimmable? The gpio pin that does lights can be changed to be a PWM type after all.

glossy prism
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Nope, the hardware is on/off only for the light

violet barn
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Anyone have experience using the govee h5074?

hoary beacon
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Maybe a dumb question, I run Home assistant (Home Assistant 2022.2.9) on my vmware stack, and would like to change some of my physical sensors from Wyze to Zwave or Zigbee, a lot of what I've seen are usb devices that connect to a physical port, is there a reasonable stand alone hub that I can connect a virtual appliance to, or do they all require some physcal contact to Home Assistant?

hoary beacon
thick oriole
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if i undestand you right, you could use a poe version of a zigbee coordinator like the one from tube

hoary beacon
thick oriole
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they are called coordinator if it forms the network and router if they route traffic through the mesh

hoary beacon
lone bough
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im using a sonoff 4ch with tasmota, when i switch stuff in HA, the switches return back to he previous state

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ex. i cant turn on any of them.

thick oriole
grand flax
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Hey guys so I'm new to being a home owner and my buddy is helping me get my smart home conversion started. I'm running a pi4 with a home assistant build but I personally don't know much about coding. I am having trouble figuring out which hardware devices I can buy that are affordable but also compatible with home assistant. I'm looking to eventually have full automation for my entire house but don't want to have to keep rebuying things to find compatible equipment. Any thoughts?

tall pulsar
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Any good HDMI and 2,5mm jack "switching hubs" (several inputs, 1 output)?

thick oriole
tall pulsar
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Or wifi devices are usually compatible (if they are like smart light switches or power sockets, then they don't need to be low powered)

violet barn
distant dove
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I have a few Inovelli LZW30 switches that are connected via Z-Wave JS.

Does anyone know if it's possible to differentiate between manually turning the switch on versus an automation turning it on?

gloomy elbow
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Do you get a button press event from the switch?

distant dove
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How can I look for that, @gloomy elbow? I am only seeing a state of on or off.

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I'm guessing Dev Tools > Events > Listen to events

gloomy elbow
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Look in the logs, either in your Z-Wave integration or increase your log level and then watch for it (you'll get a lot of other information in there so turn it back off)

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You'll have to find out how the events are sent to know what to listen for

distant dove
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ah, ok.

gloomy elbow
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#zwave-archived Might be a better channel for more digging into that, personally I only have Z-Wave locks, so I'm extrapolating from Zigbee buttons

distant dove
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Ok, I will post there. Thank you for the assistance! ♥

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For anyone that is in need... Z-Wave JS logs are located in:

Configuration > Add-ons, Backups & Supervisor > Z-Wave JS > Log

grand flax
thick oriole
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you could also combine zwave and zigbee to fit your needs

grand flax
atomic seal
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anyone playing with nspanels ???

gloomy elbow
vivid anchor
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Are those Amazon Basics smart switches worth looking into? Can you control them locally via Home Assistant somehow or is it relying on a cloud service with Internet connection?

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I have a few wifi smart switches connected through Tuya and I was able to control them locally which I really like.

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Still very new to all this

deft sparrow
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That way i can still use it locally but share the device with neighbors over those service’s cloud

serene falcon
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@glossy prism I only asked because I have some offbrand powerstrips with Tasmota, and when I changed the LED gpio to PWM, I was actually able to set them to 50% brightness and see them dimmed lower than normal. I've went ahead and ordered an iFan04, and I'm gonna run the experiment. Given the way PWM works, I think giving them dimmers might be a software-only change.

glossy prism
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Yes, because you're talking about an LED in that case. The ifan uses a mechanical relay to control the light load, so PWM won't work.

honest veldt
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What is an easy way to install HS as i do not have a raspberry pi and do not know how to set up a virtuel machine? I am a bit lost 😅

hoary beacon
fringe moon
fervent ocean
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I'm trying to pair it, but I can only pair it with the remote controller it came with and unfortunately there are no pairing instructions on Z2M page

finite dock
finite dock
fringe moon
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Raspberry pis are generally hard to get these days

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The HA appliance has months of delivery time

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Any laptop from the last decade can get you started, don't even need a working screen

finite dock
finite dock
finite dock
fervent ocean
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Thanks for all that @finite dock ! I'll try with the thing of starting searching one sec before and see

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I have a ConBee II

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Also checked that tuya version, my motor is a single button one, but doesn't turn blue after pressing 3 times, so at this point I don't even know what I have...

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The worse part is the control with the remote is almost useless for the use I wanted so I'm feeling a bit under pressure or I'd have wasted a lot of money on this for nothing 😩

nimble ginkgo
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hey y'all i got a Ghost Control gate opener, it has 2 pins which can power a push button [1] to trigger an open/close. Any suggested hw that doesn't require an outlet or is battery powered to smartify this? I've looked at switchbot to just click the push button. I've also thought about shelly1 but i think that needs a 24V power supply which i don't think i have access to unless somehow i pull it from the ghost control control board

[1] https://ghostcontrols.com/products/axpb-push-button

gloomy elbow
finite dock
fervent ocean
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but couldn't make that happen again 😦

nimble ginkgo
winged trail
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Hi ! Need help with ikea 5 button

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Flashed sonoff usb 3.0 with latest firmware.
Follows by zigbee2mqtt

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IKEA button shows up with 3 entities

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  1. Action 2. Battery 3. Update available
fringe moon
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Sounds right

sharp apex
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A question about the soon to be released WiZ integration, and related hardware: Is the Philips Co-branding a US only thing, and in Europe old as well as new WiZ bulbs are just labelled WiZ (without Philips anywhere)? Or is it an old vs. new thing?

fringe moon
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I'm getting rid of my only Wiz bulb soon, so hopefully I won't have to find out

sharp apex
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So you don't recommend?

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Or more of a ZigBee everywhere thing?

fringe moon
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Yeah, ZigBee and ZigBee groups for life

hollow lance
thick oriole
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Wiz sounds like a step back

fringe moon
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They are fine in colour spectrum

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But wifi

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🤢

thick oriole
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Wifi has its place but not in this application

hushed quest
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Is anyone using the aqara door sensors? Using them for a week now and they are at 80% battery is this normal?

thick oriole
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How is your mesh looking? Maybe the battery wasnt full at the start

hushed quest
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what do you mean with how is the mesh looking?

hushed quest
fervent ocean
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Remove and put back the battery, it happened yo me with a hue remote showing it had no battery and when I did it went back to 80%

sharp apex
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DelayZe, I've had to wait a bit after a battery swap to get 100%, maybe something different, maybe not.

thick oriole
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bad mesh can drain the battery

hushed quest
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how can i see if its bad

winged knoll
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Two main things:

  1. Graph it (see #zigbee-archived)
  2. Check the LQI (and RSSI if listed) for each entity
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The LQI is a rough indicator of signal quality, low is bad, high is good

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The scale is 0 (no signal) to 255 (perfect)

serene falcon
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That's weird. Last night it wasn't letting me post, Discord demanded my phone number. Now I can again.

gloomy spoke
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It was a temporary attempt to thwart a spammer

serene falcon
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Oh. Ok, didn't expect an explanation. Just thought it was more Discord jackassery.

cold moon
serene falcon
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More concerned with big corporations selling my personal info because it's another way to monetize.

ember coyote
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Can anyone think of a user interface (preferably keypad like lutron, but touchpanel too) that is 1/2 gang? Want to control lighting loads/relays and music from same keypad

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pause/play button and dim up/down etc just like lutron, savant, pulseworx, etc keypads

serene falcon
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I've seen a few where they put two switches in a single gang, but none that are really a half-gang.

mellow pendant
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Hey guys i have two of these aliexpress ledstrip
€ 5,62 40%OFF | Smd 5050 Rgb Led Strip Waterdicht 5M 300LED Dc 12V Rgbw Rgbww Fita Led Licht Strips Flexibele Neon tape Luz Monochrome
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m03BDDI

I want to control them both seperatly with this gledopto zigbee rgbw+cct controller

https://www.robbshop.nl/gledopto-5-in-1-rgbw-cct-zigbee-led-controller?gclid=CjwKCAiAvOeQBhBkEiwAxutUVA-6BfoMtxsEVR8RX84bZAdE-tRMziP43sFqZAP9SeFYQexMl8j-JRoCSgcQAvD_BwE

So I'll need two of those. But what powersupply do I need?

solemn yarrow
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anyone ever opened a circuit breaker?

glossy prism
sharp crown
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is there any way to add a hdd to a running hassOS instance? or to mount remote shares?
My motioneye is gobbling space

stark hornet
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Hi, anyone here tried the aqara motion sensor hardware mod?

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I've tried it, but then it only works for a few hours before reverting back to a 1 minute cooldown

winged knoll
fringe moon
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Mine has been running for two years

stark hornet
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My sensors are very new. I just bought them a week ago

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I've modded all my sensors, but all 8 of them have the same problem where they revert back to 1 minute reporting interval after a few hours of working as expected

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but when I give the side button a quick tap, the sensor led flashes blue once and it goes back to 5s refresh

hard tinsel
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Does anyone know of a nice smart water valve? I've seen fancy stuff like leak detection, and water consumption stats. Needs to have local support.

serene falcon
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@glossy prism Yeh I saw. Went and looked at some tear-down photos (still in transit), and I can see the 4 relays... I assumed those were all for fan speed.

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Going to try to remove the one for the lighting, and replace it with an appropriate transistor... these things are cheap enough I don't care if I ruin it.

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Hell, actually found a guide... some guy removes the buzzer from his, hooks up a thermometer. I was wondering if I could do the same but for fan direction.

rocky spruce
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Suggestion for a popular temperature humidity sensor to enable control of an attic fan?

winged knoll
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Xiaomi Aqara

rocky spruce
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Thx will look

mossy glen
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I'm still new to all this, please point me if I've send this to the wrong channel. I'm looking for gang switch that can be controlled using Home Assistant. I am not sure which product would do them but have seen and not sure if this is the one I'm looking for - 'Zemismart smart WiFi Switch' and this support tuya? - Sorry if my english not good as it's not my native language. Thanks
From the UK, budget not matter as long it's not ridiculous high. Want to be able to control the lights via the switch / HA / mobile - it's mainly for the DoorBell so that when someone press button on my Ring Doorbell, the light flashes. The switch has to remain power on at all times meaning that we can tap a button on the switch to toggle the light to on or off but power remains on for HA to work.

bright jacinthBOT
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Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
Command '~what' was invoked by: Tinkerer
mellow pendant
silver totem
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Is it better to run proxmox and on it VMs and TrueNAS or just TrueNAS and VMs on it?

ember coyote
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unlerss tyou have very light application needs for the vps'

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TruNas will be a shitty virtualizer

stark hornet
gloomy elbow
sharp apex
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@mossy glen if you want to go the WiFi route, I would buy Shelly devices instead of questionable tuya stuff. You can be sure it is compatible, and get a reliable device with good integration.

mellow pendant
proven girder
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Are there any waterproof/ water resistant zigbee temperature sensors? (Want to put one on the balcony, no direct water gets on but more so rain spray/ outdoor conditions)

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(Australia and budget of not too expensive but flexible)

fringe moon
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I use a aqara door sensor under part cover from the mailbox lid alone

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And a aqara single press button by my door under half roof

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Never had issues

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But for temperature you might be better of using an aqara temperature sensor and solder off the sensor and replace it with a water proof one that can be outside the sensor

proven girder
fringe moon
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Or more weather proof

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Guessing humidity will cling to the inside of it

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That way you can close off the entry point

hard tinsel
sharp apex
hard tinsel
thick oriole
sharp apex
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I am also a bit sceptic about the longevity of ball valves (had a few in the garden, all became drippy after a few years).

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@thick oriole: why?

thick oriole
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Thats not the intended use of that ball valve. And it does not look like a mechanical rigid solution, does not even look like the axes are aligned. Difficult to say if the required torque is achieved.

sharp apex
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Probably depends if it is intended as an emergency shuttoff, paired with a water sensor, with a yearly test or so, or as something that is moved three times a day.

mossy glen
proven girder
fringe moon
thick oriole
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It says it could measure up to 100% humidity, question is how long 😂

analog falcon
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Hey guys, I'm currently searching an outdoor weather sensor / temp sensor. I watched at AliExpress but there i just get the tuya ones operating only do -10 degrees, does anyone of you have any recomendation?

craggy obsidian
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Hi , right now I try to find something for use in diy thermostat ) now I am using dht22 but I don't recommend it

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Trying to find a better alternative

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I just take one name of sensor and trying to find info about it

fringe moon
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And is pretty close to my other outdoor sensors in accuracy

analog falcon
fringe moon
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433 based and a aqara temperature one, plus the in car temperature sensors

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The aqara door sensor is within 2c of all of them

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So can't be far off

pallid thistle
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Evening All, Any recomendations for smartplugs with energy monitoring and HomeAssistant integration in the uk please? - ideally something that i can flash tasmota with, so i have full local control and MQTT.

nimble ginkgo
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does anyone have Sonoff s31? i have a few used to track washer/dryer current. But now i'm seeing the Power/Current doesn't change, only the Voltage. Does anyone have a similar experience?

analog falcon
fringe moon
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Nope, or well, I have played with 868

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But with LoRA

quaint verge
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Morning all, I'm looking at getting my main room lights hooked into HA like I have for other room,
the main room has dimmer switches on (reason why I've not added before)
I do have access to live natural in the back box for this switch but in trying to keep a standard setup around house so i may treat as if its not got a neutral as I will want to use this type of setup for some other rooms with dimmers that do not have natural but have dimmers.

My needs: control with dimmer functionality either 1 or 2 switch wall socket, don't need to control from 2 location, has to integrate to none smart 1/2 switch wall socket (would ideally prefer local tagmata control rather then wifi control)

having had a look around I'm thinking the the shelly dimmer 2 + bypass is the way to go, any thoughts?

gloomy elbow
quaint verge
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thanks for comment @gloomy elbow im in the uk
allready use sonoff zigbee coordinator flashed with tazmota
budget is as cheep as possible but not to cheap that it dont work.
currently for none dimmers, i use sonof basic to power lights and zha buttons like LUMI to act as on wall switched/buttons

gloomy elbow
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There are quite a few other Zigbee dimmers on Amazon, but I have no idea if those are decent, the Samotech products I have are decent and haven't set my house on fire

quaint verge
gloomy elbow
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My kitchen light switch is a Zigbee switch, and the physical switch toggles the light when I hit it regardless of if my Zigbee network is up or not (which it nearly always is anyway)

dreamy vale
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Hi!

I have been surfing the web for a while and I'm not finding anything that suits my needs.

Looking for a zigbee led driver (30W or above), 220V or 24V. (I'm using zigbee to mqtt)

No need for rgb, just white channel.

(This is for a pool lights)

sharp apex
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I don't know if they specify it, but I think it is 24V

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And 230 on the primary side

quaint verge
chrome moon
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hello! i am trying to run the HA OS on a khadas-vim3. I have written the .img to an SD card, but it wont boot off of it. I wasn't able to find any relevant documentation about the process. Anyone could explain to me how to make it work, or link me the documentation on it? Thanks

winged knoll
craggy obsidian
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Hi dear friends, does some one using this sensor ?

SHT40

Is it better than DHT22 ?

winged knoll
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#diy-archived is a better channel to find folks who can answer that

craggy obsidian
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ok thank you

ruby stag
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Evening Ladies and Gents, im starting to setup my home assitant properly now. Currently using a pi4 with smart things. Looking to go zwavejs, I have a aeotec 700 series on order but i cant see it coming any time soon. Should i just accept a 500 plus instead? What am i losing? Should i move from a pi4 to a VM on some decent hardware or is a PI4 fine for some time. Also I have a load of fibaro dimmers from my old setup, what is the go to for dimmer modules atm?

maiden veldt
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Hi everyone! Anders from Norway here. Not sure why I didn't join earlier, but better late than never, I guess. Hope you're all well! :-)
Is there anyone else from Norway here? And if there is, do any of you by chance have CH340G or other capable UART device running 3.3V? I do have one myself, but been looking for it for one week now without luck. It usually takes 4-6 weeks to get a new one...so yeah...I need to flash my Sonoff ZBBridge with Tasmota

vernal cradle
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any recommendations for a thermostat with room sensors? i want to avoid the cloud, so ecobee? i dont like the alexa integrationg though...

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nest is a hard no

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what else is there that works well with hass?

glossy prism
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The ecobee3 lite doesn't have Alexa built in (but it also can't control accessories like a whole-house humidifier)

vernal cradle
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ah yeah i see that now

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works for me

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i just want a thermostat that works with hass again

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and i need room sensors because the bedroom gets full sun all afternoon

fallow cape
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just little zigbee dudes

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as far as the actual thermostat goes, idk, but there's a path through HA

copper cairn
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hello, can anyone recommend a smart bathroom fan? that can be integrated in HA?

dreamy vale
#

I got a question too 😊

I was looking for a zigbee led controller for the led ligths in the pool. I found in amazon one that is supported in HA and it has enough power to run my leds.

It can be powered by 12 or 24V, but it doesn't say anything about output voltage. I'm assuming that ift outputs whatever is on the input. Am i right?

Also, i got two white lights and this is rgbw controller. If I hook up one light per channel and i set the colour controller to that channel the individual light can be controlled. Ie: one light is on white and one on Red, if i set the light to red 255 and white 255 both lights will be on, if red to 255, white to 0 just one and so on, right?

Zigbee controller is this one btw: https://www.amazon.es/dp/B07XCWSZCS/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_RKZTD68K3JMQ7FYBEQSK?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

winged knoll
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Yes, if it takes 12V in it puts 12V out

marble stirrup
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Sorry, wrong chat.

copper cairn
#

Good Ideeas, Thank you @dreamy vale!

dreamy vale
# copper cairn Good Ideeas, Thank you <@!483669960107884564>!

Sure. No problem. I got a similar issue with the irrigation system a few months ago and after looking for a while I found out that a regular switch, a power supply (that i already had) and a 24V valve was everything i need at a fraction of the cost. Also, some DIY is always a great way to spend an afternoon :)

kindred birch
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Hello. I recently updated my HASS OS setup running on an RPi4. Since this I am not able to connect to it anymore. It doesnt have an IP but the green light are flashing on the Ethernet plug. I looked it up online and find a few similar problems but nothing worked for me.

Can somebody help me out?
Otherwhise is it possible to create a backup just from the sd card?

winged knoll
kindred birch
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Thank you. Sorry for interrupting in the wrong channel

olive jacinth
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are there any smart plugs that are local and do power consumption viewing?

currently stuck with a treatlife plug (tuya) and want something better. not too expensive though.

fringe moon
gloomy elbow
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There are Zigbee options, it depends on your locale a bit though

fringe moon
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Or ZigBee based ones

olive jacinth
gloomy elbow
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Locale being your physical location on earth, as in, which country so what plug type and voltage

olive jacinth
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oh lol

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120v

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us

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so it shouldent be too hard to find them right

fringe moon
olive jacinth
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thanks

runic karma
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o// I want to buy some RGB led strip (so that I can control the color and intensity of each diode) which i can connect to my HA via zigbee. Any recommendations or things important to know?

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also: it would be nice if i can setup some very slow/smooth transitions for the different scenes/configurations of the segments^^°

thick oriole
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If you want to address every led, zigbee will not be the right way to go

runic karma
thick oriole
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You should use something like wled then

runic karma
thick oriole
torn perch
#

Hey guys, I am looking for a hydrometer display panel that can integrate into HA, so that I can see various humidity levels in different areas in the house, any recommendations ?

split sentinel
torn perch
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What physical display do you use?

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I ordered a Nest Gen 2 today, and planning to cast to it, see how well that works

spark goblet
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Hey!

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Is there any way to use an ipad mini (ipad a1432) as a home assistant wall dashboard?

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I have that one and the iPad 2

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But, the iPad mini is a bit newer, so, any chance it can be used as a wall dash?

undone moon
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Hello, for my friend I need to setup some basic HA setup. Do you still recommend odroid N2+ ?

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with 4GB RAM.. is it be ok to go with this?

fringe moon
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Anything will be an upgrade over a blue or a pi

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If you have an old laptop that is great

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Don't even need a working screen

undone moon
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yes, but he wants to have small size equipment as it possible

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also, he doesnt like ides for intel nuc

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because of shortage of Pi4's, I was thinking to go with odroid?

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but Im not sure how to install an eMMC module on top of it

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To get started we suggest the ODROID N2+, it’s the most powerful ODROID. It’s fast and with built-in eMMC one of the best boards to run Home Assistant. It’s also the board that powers our Home Assistant Blue.

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so odroid N2+ has eMMc installed in itself right?

south salmon
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ok so i read the documentation on the site, and when i select he windows install it tells me to run linux.

I am confusion, can i run home assistant on windows directly ? i wanted a pi for it but they are unavailable

gentle fossil
fervent ocean
#

I'm looking to have some sensors so I can know when we're on the bed, is there already som pressure/weight mat for this? I saw a great video of a guy explaining how to DIY but my welding skills are null 😅

gentle fossil
fervent ocean
gentle fossil
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i have no idea, you tell me

fervent ocean
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my knowledge on electricity it's very limited... but it just feels akward

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quite cheap to make and try though

thick oriole
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Why not? The voltage isnt high

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Looks very interesting though, question is, is it noisy if you lay on it

fervent ocean
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I have a super king matress so I guess just with the weight of it...

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I'm actually researching to see what type of nodemcu I should buy

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and I'm having problems to find a non ESP8266 as estated

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in fact the majority I find in amazon say both, esp32 and ESP8266 🤷‍♂️

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but I can't find this type of FSR in my country

severe quest
#

I'm running Home Assistant OS on a RP4. How do I tell HA to use a long range usb bluetooth dongle I had instead of the internal bluetooth

severe quest
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looks like I can do it with bluetoothctl

fringe moon
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Unless that usb device is supported by HA you are out of luck

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Usually an esp32 is a better choice, or multiple

severe quest
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Already had this dongle so I thought I'd give it a try! Two devices show up, but I'm not sure which MAC address corresponds with the dongle

fringe moon
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Two Mac addresses?

severe quest
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yeah I assume one is for the internal rpi4 bluetooth and one for the dongle?

fringe moon
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Might be

severe quest
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any good way to know which is which? The show command doesn't really clear things up..

fringe moon
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It would normally be easier to identify via lspci -vvv or lsusb -vvv but no idea if that works with haos

severe quest
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lsusb works, and returns a bunch of id's. I know which USB port it's plugged into and a bunch of info about the dongle shows up in the Supervisor's UI under Hardware, but nothing seems helpful in determining which one is which...

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I'm an idiot. I can just unplug it to know which one is which.

gentle fossil
iron hornet
#

my bad

buoyant osprey
#

What's everyone sticking to their walls nowadays, tablet wise?

I just got a Samsung Tab A8 hoping to run a 2k WEBRTC stream to it. But it chokes on it, and can't even read the stored clips.

Now debating getting a Samsung Tab S8.

lyric mortar
#

I'm getting ready to get into HA and am also ready to graduate from my RPi (currently used for HomeBridge) to a mini PC or NUC. I'm looking to do so on the cheap. Is there any resource that's like "what server hardware people currently are finding success with"? Apologies if there is and I missed it. Thanks.

thick oriole
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Refurbished mini pcs are cheap and good, like hp elitedesk mini

lyric mortar
sacred mulch
#

/?

fallen coral
#

Hello hardware lovers

steady hearth
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If you are into popping leds like popcorn

undone haven
#

Using a 12v power supply will likely be a heck of a lot more expensive

steady hearth
#

Checking my amazon history I bought a 5v 15A in 2020 for $25

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and now it's $30

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so yeah I guess so

undone haven
#

Just plug in half of the 12v one.

steady hearth
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And yes, my 12v looked exactly like the 5v and I destroyed most of a strip

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and heard the popping lol

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not if you don't do what I did

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it was like, if the led strip was a single strip of bubble wrap, and you zipped that between your fingers real fast

tepid heart
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Unlikely for 2Amps. That's 10W. How long is your LED strip?

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You'll be fine with 10W spread over 5m.

winged knoll
#

If you put it on 12V, you get 12V

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And you let out the magic smoke

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I'd strongly recommend you buy some spares now, since it's looking likely that you'll need them

fringe moon
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And read up on basic electronics

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If you want to do any diy

winged knoll
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I'm not worried, it's your stuff you'll be setting on fire, not mine 😛

solar relic
#

I am building a house I'm Europe (Czech Republic).

I am going to meet someone about buying lights for the house next week. I have not yet chosen a protocol to use.

What protocol should I choose?

drifting grove
#

Hi everyone, I am trying to set up the a google nest device. I have gone through my settings in the google cloud several times and everything looks ok however when I try to authorize my account I get this message "No access to partner
Information could not be retrieved. Please contact Home assistant to verify that your account has been properly set up. You may need to add the developer email address as a home member in the Google Home app settings." Any ideas?

serene falcon
#

Honestly, anything not wifi is absurd at this point.

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Greatest compatibility, cheapest, most options.

drifting grove
thick oriole
sharp apex
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For battery powered WiFi is not very good. Zigbee devices often have 4 or 10 time the battery life.

ember carbon
#

Can anyone tell me if a speaker plugged into a rpi will show up as an audio output device in HA? I would like to create an easy to build internet radio with nothing more than a button to cycle through predefined radio stations.

winged knoll
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If you mean HAOS, then there's a way of making it work apparently

fringe moon
ember carbon
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@winged knoll thanks I'll try over there. I still have trouble with the names of the different components of Home Assistant.

sharp apex
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@fringe moon yes, and often at half the size. Take the Aquara door sensor, and take the smalest competitor with WiFi. 3 times as large?

fringe moon
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I haven't seen WiFi door sensors, so no idea LeoLaugh

stable condor
#

Hi folks - does anyone have recommendations for a smart "Nebula Light" like the bliss light or similar? I bought a knock off from ebay, but it looks like I have to solder it to remove the cloud dependancy and/or install esphome on.

I'd like to do that some day, but for now was looking to see if there is anything I can just purchase out there that will work and I can automate

iron geyser
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I’m looking for a z-wave dimmer wall switch that can control load. But also has a second button for scene commands

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Does such a thing exist?

undone haven
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You mean like single, double, triple taps and long and short presses?

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Cause that has been a zwave thing for a while

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I use homeseer but inovelli is the go to these days

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If you can find them

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Central scene is the buzz word you crave

severe ivy
#

Hello,
Maybe a stupid question but is it possible to use multiple usb hubs for home assistant? I got a Conbee II USB atm for my main/ground floor but because I dont have any devices planned for the first floor but I do want some at the second floor. I'm remodeling and found a way to get a USB cable (5m) up to the stairs to the second floor and was thinking of installing a second Conbee II there to make sure I will have a zigbee signal to the top part of the house. Will this work or can only one zigbee hub be installed on HA?

solar relic
#

What does everyone think of Shelly switches/modules?

Quality
Value
Versatility

sharp apex
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I like them a lot, quality is fine, value too, but it is a bit problematic to get them shipped at a good shipping fees where I live. Still OK.
What I like is how well they are integrated into HA and how reliable they are. Even with doing stupid stuff it is really hard to kill them. Wifi reception is also very good in my opinion (considering I am using most of them buried somewhere inside a wall).
It does what it is supposed to do.

Now, I don't know if there are zigbee in-wall solutions that combine the benefits of the Shelly with direct pairing to battery powered zigbee remotes, but other than that I see very little in that space that I could imagine to replace them with.

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I certainly would prefer them to sonoff or tuya stuff, as cost savings are not really that large, and Shelly just works.

sweet pond
#

Are there any solutions that would work for fast home detection? I've tried iBeacon, but as far as I can tell it's not secure in any way (people may clone it). I want to disarm the alarm at home when I get into the home-zone, but google_maps and the HA tracking are all too slow.

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i have an android tablet on the wall, so I tried the "Beacon MQTT" app, but I can't get it to work reliable enough, so any solution that would run on that or some zigbee device would be preferable. Any thoughts?

fringe moon
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Automatic disarming of alarm without interaction

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Sounds horrible

sharp apex
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NeoID: maybe a nfc tag stuck onto the wall you scan with mobile? Not completly automatic, but not painful

iron geyser
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but it looks like it's a long way off

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I think I'd also use zigbee if no z-wave devices fit the bill

sweet pond
undone haven
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Central scene gives you multiple ways to control other devices in your zwave network.

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So, as an example., I have a morning wake-up scene in home assistant that I can activate by double tapping up on a zwave switch in my master bedroom. Or I have a zwave bulb in the foyer that I can turn on by double tapping down on the master bedroom switch. Neither the scene or the bulb are directly connected to the switch, it’s done through automations in homeassistant.

iron geyser
undone haven
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Auh, ok….that makes sense then.

iron geyser
#
  1. It's a dimmer.. and it's an old insteon dimmer so reflex is to double tap to instant on 100%
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also.. the old keypad linc we used to use had 'scene' buttons. so we're kind of used to that (family ease of use)

gentle gate
earnest shadow
thick oriole
#

Then you can set the radio station through HA

frigid turret
#

What is the cheapest energy measurement plug that works with HA? I want to buy a lot of them..

sour sage
thick oriole
sour sage
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Hi all,

I'm looking to automate my motor powered blinds.
But I am not sure which device I should purchase.

Now a lot of love goes out to the Shelly 2.5 so I am leaning towards this, but they are WiFi.
As I also have a zigbee network, would it be better for my use case to find something that uses Zigbee?

Please advice 🙂

sour sage
frigid turret
sour sage
frigid turret
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Ah ok 😛

frigid turret
#

All this Tuya stuff works with HA? Lots of interesting stuff on AliExpress

thick oriole
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Only use Tuya with zigbee. But try to avoid it if possible

frigid turret
#

Why is that

thick oriole
frigid turret
#

I haven't a clue what that means

thick oriole
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They do not push state changes, you have to pull them every minute or else. Zigbee2Mqtt handles that but push is the better method

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SHP15 has the same method

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If im not mistaking

frigid turret
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Well that sucks

sour sage
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My zigbee SPH13/15 devices has their kwh metrics updated each 10 seconds or so.

But i am using a Conbee II stick with the ZHA integration

frigid turret
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@thick oriole what did you mean by "without a firmware update"? I can flash them?

thick oriole
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Yes, but with my latest information only with a tuya gateway until someone adds the firmware link to the zigbee2mqtt database

frigid turret
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Hmm

thick oriole
sour sage
thick oriole
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I have an innr sp 120 it only sends a new value when it changes by a certain amount, it pushed then the value almost instant

sour sage
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Cool, it is quite a bit more expensive though

thick oriole
thick oriole
frigid turret
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I found a local seller but those are 3x the tuya ones

sour sage
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I guess if you use a Zigbee stick with a Zigbee 3.0 device it should not really matter what youa re getting

frigid turret
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Why is that

sour sage
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When running zha

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I'm mixing all the brands my self aswell

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My Xiaomi, Blitzwolf, Orsam zigbee devices all connect to the same Zigbee Coordinator

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I'm sure )99%) the tuya ones would also work

thick oriole
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Blitzwolf are tuya tbh

sour sage
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Alright i guess it's a 100% then 😛

frigid turret
#

So obviously push is better than pull for responsiveness, but is that only disadvantage?

sour sage
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Having a lot of devices pushing might also overflow your homeassistance

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But that is hardware dependend and the amount of data beeing pushed each second

thick oriole
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Yes, and the ones in my link do not support the setting of the power on behavior by power failure, they are off by default

sour sage
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The SPH13 do keep their power state (just tried pulling one out that was turned on)

sour sage
snow valley
thick oriole
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Shelly uni maybe? Difficult to see from your pictures what you need regarding I/O

snow valley
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Only connections available is the ones in the picture. 5v, door, god, ir and 12v

thick oriole
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How is it switched atm?

snow valley
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Rf remote

thick oriole
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Do you have a operation manual and/or manufacter name + model

snow valley
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Rawlink 12108

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No manual

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The terminals are not accessible from outside, I opened up the box to check if it had some connections inside I could use

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Just not sure which terminals to use

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Looks like connecting door and 5v triggers to garage door

thick oriole
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Maybe that can help?

snow valley
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Not quite the same

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And looks the same

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So gonna try 5v and door

pale iris
#

Hello, Ive been running a Raspbee 2 with the Home Assistant Operating System and zigbee2mqtt for around three months now without a hitch. only that I decided to update Home Assitant OS from Release 7.1 to 7.5 and now it cant find the Raspbee 2 adapter anymore. The device /dev/ttyACM0 disappeared and zigbee2mqtt cant connect to /dev/ttyAMA0, which appears to be a different device. Tried switching from "miniuart-bt" to the "disable-bt" overlay and some other things, but I cant connect to it anymore

thick oriole
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Have you tried lsusb in ssh?

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And better use dev/serial/by-id/ next time

pale iris
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Well, lsusb wont work since its not a USB device, but a serial one connected over the GPIOs and /dev/serial/by-id doesnt exist

thick oriole
#

Have you tried to go back to 7.1?

pale iris
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Yeah, that would be the next thing to try

keen loom
willow girder
#

Hey guys, I am searching for a split HVAC with two room units which can be integrated to HA. Does somebody have some resources for me where I can find more information?

hollow rivet
undone sun
#

Hi, I am just entering into the exciting world of HA. Had some one tried to install an Aqara wall switch with out neutral and link it to HA - lumi.switch.l2aeu1

winged knoll
#

Lots of people will have

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Most of those will have been smart and used one of the #zigbee-archived integrations

gloomy elbow
#

I paired my Aqara H1 no neutral to ZHA and then Z2M, it works well.

finite dock
#

I've seen one or two people elsewhere complaining about having lost HA installs because of failed SD cards in Raspberry Pis. I'm currently on Sandisk Ultra cards and have had no problems so far. Should I consider replacing my card with a "High Endurance" card of the kind that is sold for Dashcam/CCTV use? They're supposed to take more write cycles

winged knoll
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Yes

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Or, better, moving off the SD cards entirely

fringe moon
#

and losing HA installs means they didn't do backups

winged knoll
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Well, they did "backups", aka snapshots left on the computer... so yes, no backups

finite dock
finite dock
winged knoll
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SSD if you must say on the Pi

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Proper computer otherwise

finite dock
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I'm sad I didn't manage to appropriate one of the tiny Dell "jam sandwich form factor" i7 PCs we had left over at work after we installed the new building

fringe moon
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A backup that isn't at least on two different locations from the live system, isn't a backup

finite dock
fringe moon
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I would never advice at a blue or yellow at least

winged knoll
#

The Yellow is still a Pi

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The Blue at least isnt'

finite dock
#

When HA backs up, is it possible to make it back up to an SMB share so I could have the backup on my NAS instead?

crude bluff
#

I'm running it on HP thin client - so far no problems but I have backups on separate NAS (backups are managed by ProxMox)

fringe moon
#

depending on installation method you can backup to anywhere

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and multiple locations

winged knoll
fringe moon
#

with HAOS, I know it supports google drive

finite dock
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I'm using the Pi pre-rolled complete distro

fringe moon
#

with a container based install I push my backups to two different cloud providers encrypted + one local secondary host

winged knoll
crude bluff
#

I dont want to intercept this discussion but could you recommend any zigbee smart plugs working with zigbee2mqtt? I know there's a webpage showing supported devices but I've tried to find few of them on Aliexpress with no luck

winged knoll
finite dock
winged knoll
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And remember to mention which country since not everybody lives where you do

pale iris
finite dock
keen loom
finite dock
#

I've seen plugs with suspiciously similar cases and other brand names on

pale iris
keen loom
crude bluff
#

Thanks

finite dock
winged knoll
finite dock
north rivet
#

Forgive me if this is not the right place to ask:
I have a sliding gate and want to automate it
the motor controller has a contact to open/close (so far so good)
the controller also has 2 reed switches to know if the gate is fully open or closed, I want to also be able to read the value of those switches (multimeter between gnd and the reed connector on the board has 3v) (whole circuit board is 12v)
I was considering a shelly uni as it has 2 inputs, but I'm unsure if I will be able to read the reeds

pale iris
# keen loom that should always appear as `/dev/serial0` then

Yeah, thats what I already tried, /dev/serial0 is a softlink to /dev/ttyAMA0. But when I set that one as the serial device Im getting the error Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms) which according to the zigbee2mqtt documentation means that either the port has changed or the device has been corrupted and needs to be flashed again, though the Raspbee II is supposed to have a newer chip where that isnt a problem anymore

fringe moon
#

try using /dev/serial/by-id/ names instead

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those are static

winged knoll
keen loom
# 
root@pi400:~# ls -l /dev/serial/by-id
ls: cannot access '/dev/serial/by-id': No such file or directory
crude bluff
keen loom
#

by-id doesnt even exist

fringe moon
#

well.... softlinks are useless if /dev/ttyAMA0 becomes /dev/ttyAMA1

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/dev/serial/by-id will be the same

keen loom
fringe moon
#

what in tarnation

keen loom
#

so it will always be the same physical port

finite dock
fringe moon
#

what device is this ?

keen loom
#

raspberry pi

fringe moon
#

🤔

pale iris
keen loom
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serial0 is always the serial port on the gpio header
serial1 is always the serial port on the internal bluetooth controller

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config flags can swap around which true port (ttyAMA0 or ttyS0) is which, but the symlinks will still point to the final destination

finite dock
keen loom
finite dock
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Which base OS?

keen loom
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nixos

finite dock
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Is that a DEB or RPM OS?

keen loom
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its nix based

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everything gets built from source, but there is a binary cache for if you use the default build options

finite dock
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I tend to avoid the build-from-source distros unless I have a compelling reason to use one. They're not as mainstream so I find getting help harder if something doesn't work the way I expect

keen loom
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the design of nixos gives you a lot more control over when things update, and allows undoing updates if something breaks

fringe moon
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nixos you say

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so fully unsupported

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😄

keen loom
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thats why i havent bothered this server with issues about getting HA itself to run, or things like systemd causing permission errors

winged knoll
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Do you even have /dev/ttyAMA[01]?

finite dock
keen loom
keen loom
winged knoll
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Only thing that matters is HA, not some random other box

finite dock
keen loom
winged knoll
keen loom
finite dock
finite dock
keen loom
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i think things are going off-course, its @pale iris having the serial issues, and i'm just helping since i know the rpi hardware

finite dock
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An i3 with 8GB RAM would be sufficient to do a decent job of HA, wouldn't it?

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Thanks. I can pick one of those baby Dell micro desktops up on eBay for OK money. It also solves the problem that I can't get Pi4s right now and I can take my Hassio Pi back to use on my Voron 3D printer

pale iris
finite dock
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I'm looking at about £130 for one of those Dells. Is there anything else better I should consider at around that price or less?

keen loom
finite dock
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Another choice would be to put it on my old Kodi box but that is a bit of a tank by modern standards

silver vessel
#

Hi Folks! Any recommendations for ~2-300€ Vacuums that integrate nicely? My Eufy 15C is starting to suck (or rather not so much) and I've been looking for an excuse to myself to snag a new one :) (Germany)

runic karma
#

Any recommendations for a HA compatible pet food dispenser (cats)? I thought this would be far more easy to search, but it seems that this is something barely existing out there? :/

fringe moon
#

Any one should be easy to diy, if it has a button or sensor that is built in, to replace the button or sensor with an esp board

runic karma
thick oriole
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Tuya is nothing someone would recommend

fringe moon
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If that one is tuya based and contains an esp chip

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It might be flashed for fully local control

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If not, it might work with shoddy cloud

thick oriole
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But they mostly do not contain esp anymore?

fringe moon
#

Mostly, and depends on how old it is

finite dock
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Is Tuya cloudy? ISTR it is. If so, if your Internet goes down while you're away, do your cats go hungry?

fringe moon
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They might even if you are home

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Cloud is not great, Tuya cloud is less great

true patrol
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does anyone use blink doorbells?

bright jacinthBOT
#

@true patrol Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

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true patrol
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sorry 😦 I was thinking this might be better channel for it happy to remove it from the other

winged knoll
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If you're asking about using them with HA the other channel was the right place

true patrol
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oh ok, ta that was what I was getting at thanks 🙂

inner nymph
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I am hoping this is the create area, I don't see an audio/video hard ware section. I am looking for alternatives to Harmony or the Control4 remotes I have now for whole home Audio/video

winter shard
#

Hi all , someone experience with NUKI 3.0 and integrating in Home assistant?

young kayak
#

anyone here familiar with Leviton switches? moved into an apartment and don't have model without pulling them out. not able to get into setup mode, keeps flashing amber.

undone haven
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@young kayak Is it a zwave switch? More than likely a flashing amber means it is trying to connect to the old network which is non existent. Factory reset and include into your network.

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Prob the same thing if it is WiFi

young kayak
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not sure, I think im just gonna pop one out and get the model number then go from there haha. unfortunately they all look the same from the outside

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:)

naive turtle
#

Hello everyone! I'm looking to get into HA, I've watching youtube videos for a long time now and even setup once a vm on my personal computer to test HA.
Now what I would like is a entry device that's comparable to Pi4 or even better for the same price range, budget should be about 250$ (how future proof am I under this budget?)
I'm in Portugal and all Pi4 are out of stock, amazon does not sell them from official store so I dont know what to get.

I plan to make it a media server too, should I get a NAS or a mini pc should make the trick?

winged knoll
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Second hand 64 bit system from the last decade would do fine

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There's plenty of mini and micro PCs you can find in eBay, or even buy new from AliExpress. As long as you do a little research you can get something so much better than a Pi

naive turtle
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I mean, I found several devices on aliexpress that would perform way better. I just dont feel secure enough to buy from ali because of taxes applied... it's getting a nightmare to get stuff to portugal if not buyed on .pt site or amazon lol

fringe moon
#

Used in Europe somewhere might be reasonable too, there is no taxes within the EU region for member countries right?

naive turtle
#

yes, within EU member countries no taxes.. might ask for a decent CPU to start with and search from there

civic kraken
#

used laptops are nice low power options too if you can't find a minipc

fringe moon
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Used laptop with broken screen is a good option too

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Except poor scalability

jolly tinsel
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Recommended hardware for energy monitoring 3-phase, been looking at Shelly 3em or are there better suited options for home assistant? Sweden, zigbee/zwave/Wi-Fi, basically I just want to compare to the bill I get what the house consumes; power monitoring.

bright jacinthBOT
#

Looking for advice about a device to buy? Remember to provide guidance on:

  • Which country you're in
  • What your budget is
  • What protocols you prefer (eg Zigbee, WiFi, Z-Wave)
  • Any features you want (such as power monitoring, dimming, etc)
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narrow fulcrum
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Any recommendations for 1U hardware? TIA. UK/EU

fringe moon
#

1U hardware WhiteGuyBlinking

winged knoll
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Shush, I've heard some lot with the initial h, p, and e do some 1U hardware

fringe moon
#

Hæsjpee

dreamy vale
#

Hi!

Looking for a recommendation for smoke dectors. Been looking online for a while but not sure what to do.

I need two smoke detectors that can be integrated with HA (the idea is to know the state of the smoke detectors and if needed being able to see the stream from a webcam).

Need those to be battery powered and wifi or zigbee. Also, need that the alarm can be setted off remotely (because the ceiling is high enough to need a ladder and my wife hates it).

Any ideas? Thanks!

winged knoll
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Few smart smoke detectors are good smoke detectors

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Buy a reliable smoke detector with an interconnect, tap that with a #diy-archived solution, and away you go

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Some of those even come with remotes for triggering tests

dreamy vale
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Thanks

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Will look for that. I have seen that shelly is making a smoke detector.. Maybe that one is good enough 🤣

ripe copper
#

does anyone have any tips to make an Aqara vibration sensor respond better to more subtle vibrations?
I have the sensitivity set to 1 and my dryer seems too stable for it to pick up the amount of vibration.

dreamy vale
ripe copper
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Hah I got close to doing that

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I tried connecting it to a closer zwave device and changing the battery

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because it’s not ALWAYS not detecting

dreamy vale
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Jokes aside, you can amplify the movement on the sensor side, grab a small spring from a pen an use it connect the sensor to the drier

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The spring will amplify the movement and even subtle movement will be detected as an earthquake

sharp lotus
#

Hi guys, is anyone aware of a sound level sensor?

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prefer wifi enabled - tuya would be good,

sharp lotus
#

I just need to get HA to pick up if sound has increased.

lavish wagon
#

Anybody have Legrand wifi enabled light switches here? The designs are pretty nice, but will they work with HA?

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If they are not worth it, I'll consider caseta Considering Caseta

odd ice
#

if I wanted to get a motion sensor for my basement, A) what sensor should I get to hook up to home assistant, and B) how would I make it so that it it doesnt turn off if multiple people come downstairs?

rocky spruce
drifting grove
#

Hi everyone!
I just started setting up HA a few days ago, have some Tuya Thermostats running fine (with polling temperature) and was a little surprised to see that the actual temperature oscillates around the target temperature. Somehow i expected the thermostats to do some smoothing or similar. Is this normal?

winged knoll
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You're saying that the temperature gets a little warmer and a little cooler than the target?

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That's totally normal if so

drifting grove
winged knoll
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Yup, totally normal

drifting grove
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Cool, thanks for the info. Somehow i thought the thermostat would calibrate and then do some fancy PID to not overshoot.

winged knoll
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If you'd bought some fancy expensive ones, then maybe

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Tuya is built to the minimum possible spec, and then down a bit more

drifting grove
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Got me there, i basically went for the cheapest ones i could get my hands on.

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Well, except for the temperature polling issue these seem to be working fine so far. They are much more reliable than me remembering to turn down each heater by hand.

thick oriole
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What have you paid

drifting grove
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For the thermostats? 100€ for 4pcs from aliexpress

thick oriole
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What's the calculated ROI (Return of Investment)?

drifting grove
#

I also bought one of the hackable silvercrest/tuya ethernet gateways from ebay for 15€. Also just awesome to see it works so well (so far)

drifting grove
# thick oriole What's the calculated ROI (Return of Investment)?

Well, i did not calculate ROI. Actually, i have a flat rate for heating right now so there is no return at all. Will be moving soon and that place is pretty huge, with increasing energy prices i expect like 1-2 years, but that is just a feeling, no numbers to back it up

thick oriole
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Okay, I doubt i could save enough money with the replacement of my thermostats to get investment back ever. Really difficult to say how much could be saved with that kind of investments

drifting grove
dreamy vale
# drifting grove Cool, thanks for the info. Somehow i thought the thermostat would calibrate and ...

I work for a very large company (one of many that claims that invented the thermostat) and we don't implement pid control 🤣 just overshoot and undershoot, that seems the way to go.

Many times having PID control in something with the intertial mass of that entity is really difficult to fine tune and it keeps doing the samething but in a smaller quantity.

The last time some client asked for pid control ended up in removing it because to many rapidly on/off 🤣🤣

harsh tangle
#

hi, is it possible to use as media_player a bluetooth device?

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like for example a bluetooth speaker

thick oriole
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if you connect it to something like a raspi, possible

bright jacinthBOT
sour sage
#

Hmm Mr Bot it was not code 😦

winged knoll
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No, but it was over 15 lines

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The bot doesn't care, it just cares that you hate people on mobile devices, or with large text

sour sage
#

Alright, let me retry

Question: Shelly 2.5; is the device protected against the SW2 button being pressed while simultaneously the O1 port is being activated by the app?

thick oriole
winged knoll
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If you've seen the amount of text some people vomit into the channels...

thick oriole
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Yes but i wouldnt insinuate that ManiakNL hates phone users 😂

sour sage
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Well, sorry for trying to format my question...

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I love phones, i even own one

tawny flint
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@thick oriole I'd like to use bluetooth speaker (as TTS output) , but it seems very tricky to get running on raspi (running hass-core) :/

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probably borderline impossible tbh

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Any easy other solutions? I'd rather not have a device that has voice assistant

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Maybe if line out is more doable then adding an external bt-transmitter ...

undone haven
thick oriole
proven girder
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You? lul

thick oriole
tawny flint
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@thick oriole home assistant operating system, it might have pulseaudio in it ...

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the whole home assistant OS / core is confusingly shown in the UI

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edited, the documentation is clear 🙂

thick oriole
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If not, a better solution would be, running something like raspberry os and then home assistant core in docker. The non headless version has pulseaudio packed on it and then there are instructions on the internet to connect a bluetooth speaker

tawny flint
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I really don't want to mess with the docker, systemd and docker-compose plus update and manage the underlying OS just to connect a bluetooth speaker

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Maybe if I had gone with that route from the start, then perhaps. But not after setting up everything.

thick oriole
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Then get another raspberry pi and set it up as a media player

proven girder
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Not as scary as it sounds

tawny flint
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Oh I know exactly what it means, I've been using linux for 22 years .. I'd rather not

thick oriole
#

You could also run home assistant os as vm

tawny flint
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I could have ran this on my linux server, and I did run hassio maybe 4 years ago. But I specifically wanted this to run on a separate raspi now so that it's separated

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Also, awesome progress on hass!

thick oriole
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As vm on the raspberry, was my thought

tawny flint
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Yeah, interesting idea. But that still requires more tweaking than what I am prepared to do.

thick oriole
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Maybe that could help

tawny flint
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It's a bit puzzling why hass OS doesn't (yet?) have bluetooth audio capabilities. It's something that would be directly beneficial to selling nabu casa subscriptions 🙂

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Same for mobile app, no nabu casa TSS. It's otherwise excellent.

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@thick oriole looks interesting, although I have no idea how dockers run on hass OS

thick oriole
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You only have to install it as a addon (okay not sure here)

tawny flint
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unfortunately it needs a lot more than pulseaudio to be able to stream to bt-speaker

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alsa, bluez and some libs doing integration between those

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but that docker might get me line-out audio 🙂

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if that's not available out of the box already

thick oriole
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Look like its available out of the box

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Ssh per phone into HA atm, is not much fun

proven girder
tawny flint
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sorry, TTS, Text to Speech

proven girder
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Ahh, you mean making the app speak?

tawny flint
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yep, since that BT speaker thing is not happening any time soon, making my phone speak out loud would be a a good alternative

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and I have made it so by using app called "out loud"

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but that has some other issues (lag, volume controls)

proven girder
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Wouldn’t that mean the app has to stay active in the background to play it?

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Since iOS would probably kill the app fast unless you kept a VoIP style usage on

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Or audio stream

thick oriole
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For pulse audio, you only need pulseaudio-module-bluetooth to connect a bluetooth speaker per ad2p i think

tawny flint
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@proven girder Apps can sleep and wake up when needed, that's the way all messaging and notification apps work. It shouldn't be a problem.

proven girder
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Not playing custom audio

tawny flint
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well you start audio when need arises, note that I am talking about TTS from phone speaker

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BT is a different beast and would be draining battery

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@thick oriole I'm pretty sure bluez would be needed too, but the problem is that there is no easy way to get all of these up and running

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not really even a documented hard way 😦

proven girder
tawny flint
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then how does sheeple OS handle instant messaging etc?

proven girder
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Notifications. They don’t do TTS

tawny flint
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I think for example Pushover uses apple/google delivery/wakeup mechanism. But that does introduce some lag from sending and receiving.

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Well you can do whatever you want from that notification, it wakes up the app

proven girder
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It doesn’t wake the app. It pushes from apples server

tawny flint
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and then down to the phone, down to the app

proven girder
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No not to the app. The app doesn’t need to be woken for the notification

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The phone just actions it

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But given you call it sheeple os you have no respect and probably have never looked into the push notification system right

tawny flint
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I have not, but it'd be very weird architecture if the event didn't involve the application at all. How does pushover implement custom audio notification sounds, or other notification changing configurations if it does not hit the application layer?

proven girder
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AFAIK you can trigger a custom sound if it’s local

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Okay so it talks to the app but the device triggers it

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App isn’t activated

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Another important part

proven girder
tawny flint
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of course the device OS triggers if using apple/google push mechanism, and it makes sense to use it when applicable as it saves power

proven girder
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Unsure how local notifications work but presume they have a bit more flexibility

tawny flint
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but I'd be very VERY surprised if it didn't have (a way) to engage app code when that happens

proven girder
tawny flint
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Yeah, I did mention the downside being latency. And it can be considerable.

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But I think we have spanned this channel enough with offtopic material for a while. Nabu casa TTS would still be valuable addition in the mobile APP, even with some lag (same as with any other notification).

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Not as valuable ass adding bt-speaker support on home assistant os though

proven girder
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No reason it couldn’t be run using the normal TTS without nabu casa

jolly tinsel
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@rocky spruce thnx, didn’t know about that product

tawny flint
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@proven girder sure, throw in google tts too

thin flax
#

What’s the best zigbee usb device to add to my Home Assistant VM?

winged knoll
undone haven
rapid pumice
#

I'm not sure if this would fit here, if not, let me know.
I have a Zooz 4-1 sensor and there doesn't seem to be a way to configure the sensitivity or parameters through the GUI. The screen gives no options. (It's way to sensitive by default).

winged knoll
void moth
#

Hi, I know that the Home Assistant Yellow come with an RTC built in, but i've never been able to activate an external RTC module on a RPI3B+.

winged knoll
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Unless the question isn't actually about the Yellow

void moth
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The question is about how to activate an RTC on a RPI.

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Do you know how to ?

winged knoll
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What OS?

void moth
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Official HassOS on RPI3B+.

winged knoll
void moth
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Can't remember how many time i've played into the config.txt without succes.

zenith imp
#

hey friends, just looking for a quick hardware advice to help me settle the eternal debate going on in my head about which way to proceed. tldr currently running TrueNAS Core with Home Assistant Core but i'd like to move to a version where I can a) have addon store/supervisor b) squeezelite player and c) do zigbee integrations because i dont think you can pass USB through to HA on TrueNAS Core, unless there's a way with VMs but I can't get those to work either. The three solutions I have so far are to wait for TrueNAS Scale to be ready for people like me to use it (cos docker and better pass through support), get a raspberry pi and put HA on it or a NUC so I dont have to faff with understanding how a pi works and what an audio hat is. what would you do?

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i do not have a lot of money and would prefer to keep this as cheap as i can without compromising on what i want out of it. if that factors into your advice at all

fringe moon
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I moved to truenas scale

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I ran in a jail on core, then on docker on scale

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Now I'm running native Debian with the same pools

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Still docker

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I don't use usb passthrough, but a Poe coordinator

zenith imp
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is scale newbie-ready do you think?

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im not particularly good at any of this you see lmao

fringe moon
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Scale was ready a year ago

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I ran it from February 2021 to February 2022

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Ran core from 2018 to 2021

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Unfortunately the limitations of truenas became too annoying to me

zenith imp
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i like limitations as long as it means i dont gotta get SUPER involved. im a stoner with already too much shit to do lmao. but yeah i might give scale a go, see if i can migrate over to a docker install of HA and finally get that sweet sweet addon store! ;D ty for the info.

fringe moon
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There is no add-on store in docker installation

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Also, docker compose > add-ons

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But docker compose is going away in truenas

zenith imp
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well shit then. i guess i might have to look into the pi or nuc options

fringe moon
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You could run a vm in Scale since the hypervisor is usable

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If you for some strange reason must have haos

zenith imp
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yeah my setup is an a8-6600k apu with 8gb ram and doesn't seem to like VMs at all, at least on core

fringe moon
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Eeeehhhhh

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You shouldn't run truenas at all

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Let alone zfs

zenith imp
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lmao

fringe moon
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Just install unraid or something else

zenith imp
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its temporary, i plan to give it my pc's cpu 3600xt when i can afford to upgrade/the stock goes back to somewhat normal prices

fringe moon
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Anything less than 32GB ram you shouldn't bother with truenas

zenith imp
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but that also means new board + ram + psu and probably case so ive just avoided it

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nah it runs fine and i dont have a heavy workload or anything. its just a file server for plex and home assistant really. used by one person at a time

fringe moon
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It just makes no sense to run zfs with 8GB ram

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I run a 128G system, zfs eats 70-80GB constantly, with quite easy loads

zenith imp
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i guess, but i havent really experienced any issues in my use case tho yah, when i can afford the upgrade im probs gonna go for a budget 16gb set up

fringe moon
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That is fine just for storage

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If you add VMs or containers you should at least have 32

zenith imp
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ye thats probably why they dont like to work so well rn lmao

fringe moon
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Zfs makes very little sense for small builds

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And truenas

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For consumer grade stuff you are better off with unraid

zenith imp
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mayhaps but i have already committed lmao

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ill just make sure the board i get next has room for 32gb even if i only buy 16 to start ;D

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then i can always grow into the extra space of truenas if im ever inclined

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without having to learn a whole diff program or anythin

fringe moon
#

The middleware makes some stuff easier

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But it makes a lot of stuff harder

gloomy sequoia
#

anybody recommendations for NAS solutions? I currently have an optiplex 7020 running proxmox with a handful of VMs and LXCs, but don't really have the ability to upgrade the storage anymore than it is. I don't really know what's available for NAS, but I'd like to invest in something soon, just to have some better network storage.

winged knoll
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TrueNAS Scale?

fringe moon
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Truenas scale is fine for a turnkey solution, if you can live with the limitations

winged knoll
fringe moon
#

What if I want to tease you a little

winged knoll
fringe moon
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  1. No native qcow support or way to interact with kvm properly, have to use zvol for storage
  2. Docker compose will be removed, have to use apps and helm charts with the limits those entail
  3. No support for persistent changes in the config files, you can go around it though
  4. No support for third party drivers, in my case the coral which needs a driver to be able to passthrough to a container
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Are my four breaking points

winged knoll
#

Well, that's rather PensivePoop

fringe moon
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Well

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It is understandable

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From an enterprise and sla perspective

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But it helps to weigh in decisions

pulsar hearth
#

How important is security on z-wave switches? I have a switch that turned red in Z-Wave JS. It used to be S2. It is a Jasco in-wall toggle (link if you want).

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If it is important, how do you get it back?

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Just realized there's a z-wave channel.

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Sorry, still trying to figure out Discord.

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Re-interview worked this time.

ebon summit
#

Anyone using NanoPi R2S?

wild spruce
#

hi all just bought a Breville Smart Dry Connect Dehumidifer and started hacking all the entities to work out what all the entities are and what they mean (there's 11 entities). Dumb question - now i have done that - can someone advise/suggest best place to contribute my findings?

tepid heart
wild spruce
thin flax
#

Is there any way to bypass the need for an August Connect Wi-Fi Bridge for a Gen 2 lock?

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Or is there a way I can make my own?

dim hedge
#

Hi, I have a question. (already tried the forum and google, but I think I have used the wrong words...)
Is there any hardware that sends a signal over a cable? As in I can activate it over wifi and it activates an electronic signal?
Background: I am thinking about bying the Stiebel Eletron WWK 300 electronic SOL. It has an input cable, where when activated it will heat more (higher temperature). I have a PV system and I want to trigger this signal cable in case there is enough power generated...
Thanks for any hints!

winged knoll
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A relay?

dim hedge
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thanks

drifting grove
#

Hardware or software wise....
Will it work, on the same Rpi3 with HA-OS, to both have a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus for Zigbee2mqtt and a RLT-SDR USB Dongle for RTL_433?

winged knoll
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Should, yes. Power may be an issue though

jovial pulsar
#

I got some Wiz lights yesterday. That was a very pleasant setup experience.

desert frost
#

Can anyone recommend a hub free door sensor?

winged knoll
#

Anything Zigbee

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Xiaomi Aqara are cheap and solid

desert frost
#

How about wifi?

winged knoll
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No idea, I like stuff that has a battery life and isn't crap...

desert frost
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Right

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Well... you convinced me. Now I have to learn home assistant

sour elm
#

I have insane challenges conneting a Shelly H&T to their Cloud (for my nephew). I can connect it to my network and connect with the browser. But it will not add to his CLoud account

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It seems like an error on the Cloud side to me

uncut vector
#

Can anybody recommend a Z-Wave / Zigbee water sensor? I had a leak flood and would like to avoid that in the future

winged knoll
#

The Aqara leak sensors are pretty solid

uncut vector
#

Can they connect to Zigbee without a gateway?

winged knoll
#

Well, you need a Zigbee coordinator of some form

uncut vector
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I have a HUSBZB1

winged knoll
#

It's not the worst option at least, but it's not awesome

uncut vector
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What’s wrong with it? I had nothing but good results haha

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And good value

winged knoll
#

For Z-Wave, it's previous generation
For Zigbee, also previous generation

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Basically, old

uncut vector
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Well I’ve had it for a while

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What are god choices today?

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bright jacinthBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

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vernal bay
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Is a dell powder edge T130 any good? I have a brand new one and I’m not sure if it’s worth using. Been looking for something run home assistant and eventually other things on.

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This will be my first time doing anything like this. Any advice anyone can give me?

serene falcon
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Does anyone know of a board or hat for an ESP32/ESP8266 that let's it be directly wired to AC power?

tepid heart
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Personally I've installed mains outlets with USB power ports. Don't cheap out on this if you go this way.

gleaming geyser
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Question about wifi. Can you save multiple wifi connections into HA and if so will it detect that one's down and switch to the other?

fringe moon
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You shouldn't connect your HA instance via wifi

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Period

gleaming geyser
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rgr that

river basin
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Repost from wrong channel
Hi
I am thinking of switching to home Assistent from an all homebridge conbee setup, because adjusting everything from apples home is starting to ***, especially when my partner has no iPhone
So my question is: is a pi zero wh enough to run the current rpi3 HaasOS stable enough to use it for scene making, a conbee 2 gateway and the HomeKit integration?
Problem is, I am not able to get a Pi3 these times and my pi4 is working under a heavy load as my local server for too many applications.

I already tried to look this up on the internet, but could only find solutions/answers for old HassOS builds.

If there is no possibility to make it run under a pi zero wh, is there any other system you can recommend, at a reasonable price, which I could order from within the EU? Getting hands on a raspi is quite difficult these times

tepid heart
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No a pi zero is not suitable.

river basin
tepid heart
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Get an old second hand laptop.

fringe moon
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Or any minicomputer or small desktop

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The laptop doesn't even need to have a working display

proven girder
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eBay is great for ex-business desktops

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Like the dell optiplex's

south salmon
fringe moon
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Guessing those are 433mhz based

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So not great

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You should of look at zigbee, zwave or WiFi, in that order

south salmon
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Zigbee

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Mhz is important?

fringe moon
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Those aren't ZigBee

south salmon
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I know, i was just talking to myself xD

fringe moon
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433mhz is.... Great if you like not knowing the state of a plug, and don't want to know if any command you sent was actually received

south salmon
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Okay

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What ammount of mhz is good?

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Like 1000?

fringe moon
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Anything except sub GHz radio stuff

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Both WiFi and ZigBee are 2.4Ghz

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Zwave is ... 8-900ish MHz depending on where you are in the World

south salmon
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Okay i see

fringe moon
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ZigBee and zwave also mesh

south salmon
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I cant find the mhz for the ones i just sent, what a waste

south salmon
fringe moon
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With a remote like that, they are definitely 433

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Meshing means every mains powered device extends the range and makes it work better

south salmon
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Oh thats cool!

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Meshing things act like extenders!

fringe moon
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This is why we buy 100s of ZigBee devices

south salmon
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I found a manual copy, mhz 433

fringe moon
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I cover my entire house, plus my mailbox 25m away and I reach my neighbours kitchen 25m away

south salmon
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Cause they are to automate... Like one room

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My bedroom

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So would 433 be a problem for a room that small?

south salmon
fringe moon
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I would never recommend 433

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Period

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You can get WiFi for roughly the same price

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And ZigBee for not much more

south salmon
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Well these are like... 7,50 a plug

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Wich is cheap~

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Very cheap

fringe moon
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WiFi can be had for the same, and there are still stuff that can be flashed with esphome easily

south salmon
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Wifi ? I already have wifi at home. Im not getting what you mesn with wifi here

fringe moon
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WiFi plugs?

south salmon
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Wif... Plugs(?)

fringe moon
south salmon
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Plugs are supposed to be wired(?)

proven girder
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This sort of stuff

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Wifi based smart plugs

south salmon
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Ohhh

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A plug that uses wifi not mhz

proven girder
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call it 433mhz not just mhz

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But yes wifi/ zigbee/ z wave are the ones you should look at

south salmon
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Ahh i see

proven girder
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The plugs themselves are still plugs, nothing changes that

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Just how they communicate to make them smart

south salmon
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I think i found acceptable ones

proven girder
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Which ones

south salmon
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These

proven girder
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Im a fan of the tp link ones so should be okay

fringe moon
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Not supported by the tplink integration it seems

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And possibly cloud dependable

south salmon
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How do you know if they are supported or not

fringe moon
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By reading the documentation

south salmon
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Of the plugs? Or integration?

fringe moon
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Integration logically

south salmon
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Thank you

polar grove
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Not sure if this is the right place for this question, but does anyone have any experience with the Yeelight Vision Pro Desk Lamp? And especially the integration with HA? I'm especially curious about the two light sensors and if they would be available within HA as light sensors (I'm kinda expecting that not be the case though).

thick oriole