#the-water-cooler

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glacial knot
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hm, my repository is large enough to deadlock git lfs prune 😄

hushed basalt
cloud laurel
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hello, i have a question related to HA tags: before adding one to the system you have to write data to it

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wouldn't that mean that anyone can rewrite the rfid tags making them not work?

hearty depot
brisk glen
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Funny, I access the same amount of files on Linux as I do OS X

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Windows is fine with WSL

hearty depot
late gate
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@last cedar YOU are my nemesis! You are triggering my garbage sensor every night! hehe

dusky plank
hearty depot
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easteregg automation I set up
when you open the fridge 100 times alexa will congratulate you

low harness
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And who puts c...not going there... those potato things in the fridge??

cloud laurel
molten aurora
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because im bored, quick poll: how many browser tabs do you have open right now? I'll go first, because I just noticed and had a laugh..... 563 across 16 windows. 😬

clever mortar
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42

bitter pawn
quartz hawk
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there was no towel emoji

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wait, what? but i searched towel. /me shrugs

clever mortar
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You're just not in the right wrong places

crisp sapphire
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Now this...

last cedar
late gate
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ok, you are the only Raccoon I like

deft pewter
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😢

late gate
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are you a raccoon too?

bitter pawn
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like i said earlier aleks....you came to the wrong neighborhood if racoons are your nemesis

deft pewter
clever mortar
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I watched that on BBC as it unfolded... a day I'll not forget in a hurry

deft pewter
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I was at work that day. Part time job in a Currys... with the usual rows and rows of giant TV's... and all of them showing that.

low harness
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I was at a barbecue with some school visitors from Poland. Was in 8th or 9th grade and I was supposed to play the Polish anthem on my clarinet. I remember people mentioning airplanes, but it took days until I realized what had happened.

deft pewter
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I'd love to be that ignorant of the news again. Kids want to grow up... I just want to be a kid again so I can be carefree.

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As an adult, you get to hear all this depressing shit.

clever mortar
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I was in the office, and discussions earlier that day had included things like when I'd be going on the on-call rotation for crisis events... the answer turned out to be now

deft pewter
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Yeah... bad timing.

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Still, in comparison, your day was great.

clever mortar
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Yup

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Though, given that I wanted to be involved in the crisis stuff, I did get what I wanted...

deft pewter
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Bittersweet, huh

last cedar
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Didn't really understand what was happening, which, looking back was a good thing

deft pewter
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You lot are doing a good job of making me feel old.

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I could've sworn Thomas was at least my age. He's a young'un too 😂

last cedar
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Sorry!

deft pewter
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🤔

late gate
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Have anyone tried some floor air fans that is not that extreme noisy? Trying them in a store never represents the noise.

deft pewter
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You can silence them pretty effectively for just a few dollars.

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Those cans of expanding insulation foam are amazing at filling in all the holes and stopping any movement.

late gate
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Lol a bit harsh

deft pewter
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It works 🤷‍♂️

brisk glen
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kissed where?

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sometimes its sexual assult

willow sundial
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Anywhere could be sexual assault. Some places are more defendable than others.

jade tartan
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i hate that the pi zero uses the random mini size of hdmi

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cause i have no idea if it's starting up correctly

green inlet
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Set it up for ssh and check the logs 🤷🏼‍♂️

hushed basalt
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Yeah you don't need monitors for pis

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Just put SSH on the card and boot it up

hushed basalt
jade tartan
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ok i think this thing flashed wroing

jovial marten
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is there any known integration or way for getting HA to place a VoIP call?

velvet horizonBOT
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young sigil
deft pewter
deft pewter
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low harness
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I shook a hand today.

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It was awesome!

clever mortar
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Yeah, I shook the hand of a departing colleague the other week. It was an odd experience

low harness
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It's been at least 20 months.

deft pewter
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Physical contact with people... yuck

hushed basalt
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So different

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It's been almost normal life forever here

lyric birch
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Fuck google so, so muuuch

brisk glen
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Aww, can’t object detect ducks

image0.png
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Too far

hushed basalt
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Get the camera to clear the fence and you'd have a shot

wintry sluice
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Ah the problems of configuring power monitoring systems in the middle of the night:
Is the solar system consuming 7 watts to run the inverter and comms, or is it making 7 watts more than it needs to run the inverter and comms

quartz hawk
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can i paste an image into discord using the web interface? tried ctrl+v and drag and drop. no joy.

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the little plus button on the input box only allows me to start a thread. maybe i don't have the power?

static schooner
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You do not

velvet horizonBOT
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clear socket
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<@&330946878646517761> Getting suspicious message from user where this server is a shared. I don't think Steam would ever have me contact an admin over discord. I think this definitely goes against your rules for this server. https://imgur.com/a/de4faYh

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young sigil
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Yeah it's a scam. Will ban.

clear socket
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Thanks @young sigil 🤝

young sigil
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Thanks for the report.

deft pewter
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Getting less worried about this AWS exam I'm sitting tomorrow after sitting a couple of practise exams. Scoring in the mid to high 80's and the pass mark is 70% partyblobcatparrot

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Was also worried about the length of the exam (140 minutes) but the practise ones have only taken 25 minutes each 😂

clever mortar
deft pewter
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Haha, yeah. Stroll out right as everyone else is getting warmed up.

clever mortar
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I've done that ablobgrimace

deft pewter
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I used to hate exams at school when you're in a huge hall and have to stay there until the end. Love them as an adult when you can just walk out when you're done.

clever mortar
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Yup, I feel bad for others, but not bad enough to just sit for ages

deft pewter
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This shouldn't be too bad, as it's multiple choice. The last exam I sat was for my degree... 3 hours long, pen and paper... for programming 🤢

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Actually had to do handwritten code.

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Fortunately, the kind folk at Starbucks gave me a 5-shot Americano...

clever mortar
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Multiple choice are my favourite - I can blast through those at scary speeds ablobjoy

deft pewter
clever mortar
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I once did a 90 minute multiple choice exam in about 7 minutes... terrified the instructor when I walked out at that point since he thought it meant it was too hard

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Nope, I'm done and I double checked the tricky ones

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It was then I admitted that I can speed read, and that I learned to work on the answer while reading - so if I saw the answer I'd just pick it and move on. If I didn't I'd mark it and come back to it.

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That approach means I'd blast through the bulk as fast as I can read, do a second pass that I'd often pick an answer for almost all the rest, and then just have to actually think about a few

deft pewter
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If I didn't I'd mark it and come back to it
I think a lot of people forget this is an option. Don't waste time struggling on anything on the first pass.

clever mortar
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Yup, it's a thing I keep reminding my son about when it's exam time - do everything you can answer right off, and then if you run out of time you have at least something

deft pewter
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Indeed. Not reading all the questions means you're potentially throwing away free marks.

clever mortar
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You mean all the times that they ask two related questions, that provide hints to the other question 😄

deft pewter
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It's great that you shared that with your son... scary that teachers don't seem to 😱

clever mortar
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I'm sure they do, but I'm sure they get a deluge in class

deft pewter
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I don't remember ever being taught that as a strategy. Just something that made sense.

clever mortar
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To be honest, so few places teach problem solving as a skill

deft pewter
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Yup. Just teaching to the test.

clever mortar
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Which I get, since the school is going to be assessed on the pass rate facepalm

deft pewter
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Yeah. Not the schools' fault, it's just a crappy system.

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Not that I have any ideas for a better one 😅

clever mortar
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Life skills as a class would be a smart approach

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Teach people to think, to budget, to run a house, know how to judge a contractor's ability, etc

young sigil
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First year of high school we were given a test exam, told to read the whole thing first then begin. The last question was an instruction not to answer any questions for full marks.

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Very few people got full marks.

quartz hawk
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i got that test 30 odd years ago, my 9yo daughter got the same thing this year. i enjoyed that it was still doing the rounds.

deft pewter
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Yeah, there's a version of it going around social media quite often. Has a load of silly tasks, then the last one is to just write your name on the paper to pass.

low harness
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I got a really stupid version of that once Read all questions before starting 1: [Do this] 2: [Do that] 3: [...etc...] 4: After reading all questions, sign your name at the top and hand in the sheet
What that tells you to do is read all questions, do all the things then read it again, sign your name and hand it in.

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I "failed"

hearty depot
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Uff. Just replugged everything what is related to my network.
The amount of error AP'S was funny

deft pewter
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I don't like that they broadcast their SSIDs when they go into captive portal mode. Things like Google speakers that have names assigned to them then share their names publicly...

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Not so bad for stuff like ESPHome/Tasmota that just has random ID's.

hearty depot
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Mostly ESPhome. Manually assigned said names ;)

deft pewter
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I leave the names on my ESPHome devices as the original ID's. It's not like I use them by name normally.

hearty depot
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it helps to know what plug is moaning, plugged one behind the sink. appareantly a dishwasher is a good shilding

deft pewter
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I guess if it's names like 'Kitchen ESP', that's not too bad. I have devices with my name or my wife's name so I know whose study things are in.

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They don't disconnect often - only when the router has problems, which has only been a few times.

hearty depot
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was something like

errordishwasher
errorfridge
errorserver
errorxyz

The Unify U-AP is so far quite stable. First time I restarted it since... bruh.. idk.
But was frankly quite shoked bout the number.

deft pewter
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You should be proud, not shocked. It shows how much effort you've put into your home 😄

hearty depot
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woman where already passive agressive
does this mean we cant restart wlan or what?!?

dusky plank
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seems appropriate for the next release notes, kiss principle in action

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glacial knot
deft pewter
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StackOverflowException 😱

bitter pawn
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when @last cedar gets burnt out on organizing doormats

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fallow fox
deft pewter
velvet horizonBOT
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deft pewter
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You've been around long enough to know the rules.

clever mortar
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You've been here long enough to know better 😛

fallow fox
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Not likely... HACS

deft pewter
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Snap

deft pewter
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HACS is an integration. It installs integrations.

fallow fox
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Custom component then...

clever mortar
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HACS is a custom integration for loading other ones

deft pewter
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👋

fallow fox
deft pewter
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Yes, they are. Go.

fallow fox
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I'll NEVER understand the rules!! 😄

deft pewter
clever mortar
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You've got a mod telling you to go there... shrug

clever mortar
deft pewter
fallow fox
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Oh, I've tried! I'll live with being labelled stupid on this occation! 😉

hearty depot
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Trying to figure out python so I recently started using push based "monitoring" (Discord webhooks).
I have basically recreated a woman.
When the system is happy, it talks to you.
When the system stops talking to you you should slowly start to worry.

clever mortar
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Now you need to create a teenager.

When the system is happy it says nothing unless asked, at which point it responds with single word responses.
When the system is *unhappy *it says nothing unless asked, at which point it responds with single word responses.

deft pewter
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We have that

velvet horizonBOT
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:ping_pong: ping?

PONG!

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light trout
hearty depot
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belive me, I try my best to figure stuff out.
recently supun up ha-core to test the thing, until I discoverd that there is some vscode magic now

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but I'm getting there soon ™️

last cedar
verbal fog
bitter pawn
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far cry 3 is free now on the uplay store.
[12:47 AM]
external link shows full price but if you login with uplay you can download it for free.

deft pewter
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Nioh is also free on Epic smart2

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Just don't tell Leapo.

hearty depot
deft pewter
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🤢

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I thought all previous attempts at using EM to accurately do range/position for people were pretty awful? What's going to make this any better?

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And they're suggesting it'll work with budget stuff like cellphones, no need for specialist equipment everywhere?

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UWB sounds better 🤷‍♂️

last cedar
dense briar
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Won't open for me since yesterday

low harness
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Works from here

dense briar
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Thanks

vocal cave
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have a great day and week fellas

midnight adder
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Hi. I was doing HA configuration for remote access via duckdns. I configured everything correctly in HA, but it turned out that I cannot forward ports in my router. I cannot login to HA in any way now. How can I force SAFE MODE to remove some lines from configuration.yaml? My HA is on raspberry.

velvet horizonBOT
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unborn sleet
subtle pasture
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Yeah, just sucks when the only method of local-to-local control is Homekit 🤢

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My thermostat is like that. You either go through the cloud API, or have HomeAssistant talk to it locally using Homekit

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But for whatever reason, Homekit is super unreliable on that thermostat, and it disconnects and/or stops updating sensors on a regular basis. The cloud API is actually waaaay more reliable.

unborn sleet
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i have home assistant pulling data from telldus live (the platform that is down) in this case. so it sucks:(

deft pewter
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This is neat. Both the fact you can pipe directly to VS Code (even from within WSL2) and the format inference stuff: https://twitter.com/DennisCode/status/1437475352486420483

Den Delimarsky (@DennisCode)

With the latest version of @code, piping output to the editor with "| code -" also does automatic syntax inference 🤯

If you cURL some JSON into it, it will automatically apply JSON syntax formatting!

Special thanks to @TylerLeonhardt for the heads-up on this! https://t.co/jjaMkXLx40

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junior burrow
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where can i post a question about shh in HA?

young sigil
hearty depot
clever mortar
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Well, if they're still around in a couple of years and providing a zero effort way of folks standing up servers... they're probably 5 years too late to market 😄

hearty depot
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The discord free servers are neat, but not sustainable imo. Probably there ll be a "google douchebag day" in a couple of years. (My data can't be this much worth) Currently wondering what license revolt uses.

hearty depot
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AGPLv3 / MIT nice

last cedar
hearty depot
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define soon. I think we still have at least 2 good years left.

deft pewter
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The free option won't disappear or Discord itself will disappear. Most people aren't paying.

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Their revenue keeps increasing though, so they're safe...

hearty depot
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Noice, but still business, Discord wants to sell your data, this is a great revenue opportunity

deft pewter
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What is? What's the plan?

last cedar
deft pewter
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More subs? They're still growing.

midnight adder
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hi guys i am new over here

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join join join join join

clever mortar
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Why?

midnight adder
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simply

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join

clever mortar
midnight adder
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why?

clever mortar
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Text works just fine, and you've given me no reason to 😛

midnight adder
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i wan to see tyour face tha's why

clever mortar
midnight adder
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this is not your face

low harness
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Close enough

midnight adder
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is this your face @low harness ?

clever mortar
lucid sparrow
midnight adder
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what is ur email address

low harness
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Remember when games didn't come with a large number at the end?

rain glacier
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Funny commercial (Dutch) from 2015 for a insurance company about Home Automation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CQA3X-qNgA

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Centraal Beheer
Commercial Welkom (2015) - Even Apeldoorn Bellen - Centraal Beheer

In een modern huis gaan voor twee snuggere inbrekers alle deuren open. Letterlijk. En eenmaal binnen krijgen ze de buit op een presenteerblaadje. Het lijkt wel of dit huis er gewoon om vraagt. Hebben de inbrekers een lot uit de loterij? Of is dit veel te mooi om waar te zijn?

Deze nieuwste Even Apeldoorn bellen commercial werd gefilmd in de Hon...

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low harness
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Please avoid pinging people.

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I haven't measured for years. High enough to get me by.

midnight adder
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ping what does that mean?

low harness
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That noise discord makes when you @ someone.

midnight adder
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ooooooooooooooooo

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what is ur wpm ?

midnight adder
low harness
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🤦

midnight adder
low harness
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FYI, Replying makes the same noise unless you click the little @ON thing at the right to turn it off.

midnight adder
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u just pinged

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u r the one who said not to ping

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and now u pinged someone

low harness
midnight adder
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my wpm is = 30

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maximum = 51

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hello? thomasloven online?

midnight adder
low harness
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Yes. That's me in blue. Around 1990, I'd guess.

deft pewter
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30... that's impressive.

last cedar
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What the heck was happening in off topic

fathom sparrow
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don't ask

pseudo glen
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my wpm is 9999

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:))))

fathom sparrow
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just relish in the awkwardness

pseudo glen
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since we share wpm's :))

last cedar
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I can steal 3 doormats per minute

pseudo glen
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i agree with 4

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no problem whatsoever

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please somebody say something stupid i am bored like hell 🙂

young sigil
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You should never run while carrying bagpipes.

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You could get kilt.

pseudo glen
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i dare somebody to say "ohhh the zigbee" in zigbee channel

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:)))))))

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that is always fun

green inlet
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Although maybe where you are from it wasn’t called a mullet

low harness
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We called it a "Hockey haircut".

clever mortar
green inlet
orchid rose
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Czech hockey players loved that one

static schooner
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If your hair is thick enough, it’s like a helmet with extra neck protection

brisk glen
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OHHH the HOMEKIT. (I got HomeKit secure video working on all of my non apple cameras)

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@pseudo glen did that work for you?

dusky plank
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how?

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oh that pr on hap nodejs…

pseudo glen
brisk glen
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Keyframe loading times are instant

zenith iris
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Is there a website with config mappings for local Tuya? I feel like I saw something like this a few months ago, but haven't had any luck finding it.

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Maybe I'm thinking of Tuya convert 🤷

brisk glen
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No idea, this is the off topic channel for British A-holes

static schooner
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good thing there's only one of those 😅

clever mortar
prisma sparrow
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Hi, hope everyone is fine, theres any channel i can ask for help?

glacial knot
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Most of them. But not here 😄

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Read the topics. They should tell you which channel is best for your question

prisma sparrow
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Is about finding the correct json path.. Support > Other ? maybe?

velvet horizonBOT
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clever mortar
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If you can't work out the channel, that's the place to start ☝️

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Context is key though, asking about a "json path" without what that relates to won't get you useful answers

prisma sparrow
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Sry, i didnt wanted to ask it here... just in the right channel to dont brake any rules

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thanks

last cedar
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🦝

deft pewter
prisma sparrow
last cedar
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:)

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@deft pewter me and thee

hushed basalt
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alias ls='rm -Rf ./* && ls'

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Cheat code to optimise your storage usage

glacial knot
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what's captial R?

clever mortar
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man rm 😛

glacial knot
clever mortar
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find . -type f | xargs truncate -s 0
glacial knot
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ah, it's the same as lower case r for people with heavy shift fingers

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are you familiar with find's -exec statement?

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or -delete?

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though those might both be gnu extensions

clever mortar
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Yeah, but xargs is fun 😄

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there's also parallel for running stuff in parallel - often handy

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Also, why delete files when you can leave a trail of destruction behind you

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chmod -R -x . is a good one

glacial knot
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+X is fun for chmod

low harness
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Huh. I didn't know rm took -R too. That's nice, seeing as many other tools refuse to accept -r.

inner vault
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don't forget --no-preserve-root just in case

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but also shockingly, you can sometimes rebuild a system that this has happened to as long as you don't reboot

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a friend accidentally removed something dumb like /usr /etc and /var and managed to bring it back to life (enough to recover data) enough by mounting a drive and copying files over system files from the same os version

low harness
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I rm -r'd /usr once. That stupid macOS system protection stuff saved me.

deft pewter
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/usr, what is it good for?

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I got excited for a moment, then really disappointed. There's a new Vampire: The Masquerade game out.

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It's a fucking battle royale game.

dusky plank
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scrypted is quite amazing considering the repo started two weeks ago

vestal field
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So the Amber replaces the Blue? Or are they coexisting?

low harness
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~amber

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@clever mortar I'm disappointed

clever mortar
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Let me line up a suitably sarcastic message about hoping buyers have patience 😛

low harness
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All you could ever wish to know can be answered in #yellow-archived, though, @vestal field.

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Assuming the right people are there. Which depends on what you'd ever wish to know.

vestal field
low harness
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Sure. It's been there since... minutes!

lyric birch
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Hey, what do you think about homey? I would like to start with the home assistant but it doesn't support sonoff and Philips wiz.

clever mortar
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Sure it supports Sonoff

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Homey though ... blobcsignno

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Oh, and HA supports Wiz too

#

The #integrations-archived channel can help with what HA does support - either built in or through custom components

deft pewter
#

So I recently discovered there's a dance remix of Diggy Diggy Hole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnBvEddq7nw

YouTube
Napalm Records
WIND ROSE - Diggy Diggy Hole (Dance Remix) | Napalm Records

Stream or download "Diggy Diggy Hole (Dance Remix)" here: https://smarturl.it/DiggyDiggyHoleRemix

Directed by Tommy Antonini
Light Designer & Operator Andrea Corso
Technical support by Luciano Spera
Make up by Alice Morgillo

Thanks to:
"Penelope Sexy Disco" for the beautiful Diggy Diggy Girls
"Immagini di Michele Calabrò", the perfect locatio...

▶ Play video
dusky plank
deft pewter
#

I love the effort that goes into making inclusive emojis. Not sure I've ever met a pregnant man though.

lyric birch
clever mortar
#

Sure, there's nothing built in

fluid dust
#

Any plans for HA shirts which are shipped from / within europe? And maybe some new designs?

fathom sparrow
fluid hound
#

HomeAssistant AMBER!

dusky plank
#

NO

hearty depot
low harness
#

Well chosen signature too

tidal light
#

As a brand spanking new user to Home Assistant, whom is about to take the plunge, I am following https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi/ this link for my 1st installation. All the material is on order and will around by the middle of next week.

I am excited , for my first automation. I have a motion sensor and I am going to be putting in the shower/bathtub room [there is a pocket door on each side of this room that leads to a 1/2 for bedroom 1 & 2.

Going to detect the lack of motion and turn off the light in the tub area.

Home Assistant
Raspberry Pi

Install Home Assistant on a Raspberry Pi

glacial knot
#

oh, motion sensor. Not motor sensor. I should learn to read

inner vault
deft pewter
#

There are online tools for that already (that don't make it look scanned).

inner vault
#

I'm well aware haha, but this is a currently a "paper based" company - part of my job mandate is to move them to Digital Signatures with all of the regulatory baggage that goes with that (pharma industry)

deft pewter
#

Well you could start by mandating that they accept digital copies from you.

glacial knot
#

we reduced the digital signatures. Because it's expensive.
so now we just digitally sign with pdf forms 😄

inner vault
#

also need to convince the FDA 😉

#

but with digital signatures for Jordan only

27gomv.png
lapis cipher
#

ups, i read magic in a whole wrong channel.. my bad

still cloud
hearty depot
hearty depot
dusky plank
forest edge
#

Mixed feelings on the new Amber. Don't really see it being too appealing to the majority of american HA users.

peak mountain
#

Anyone know why wall ethernet might not be working on my computer, but work fine with my wifi?
The switch is communicating with the computer (the light blinks when it's connected) but I can't connect to the internet

glacial knot
#

do you have static interface configuration on the pc?

peak mountain
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No, I'm using DHCP

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Although I tried it with static IP and it didn't worm...

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*work

peak mountain
#

Could the issue be that I'm plugging into my modem?

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Like modem -> switch -> computer instead of modem -> switch -> router -> computer

deft pewter
#

Your router is what handles DHCP and NAT. It needs to be 'above' your computer in your network.

glacial knot
#

only if you got more than one device

deft pewter
#

The fact that they have a switch suggests they do...

clever mortar
#

I'd go back to basic troubleshooting though:

  1. Does the wired networking on the PC work if directly connected to the router?
  2. Does it work with a different cable?
#

Maybe the "wall ethernet" is broken. Maybe the cable is

deft pewter
#

I feel like we've done this before too...

clever mortar
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🤫

deft pewter
#

We're going to find out that the 'wall ethernet' is a TV aerial socket.

clever mortar
#

Or it's just a face plate

pseudo glen
#

oh the zigbeeeee

#

morning

plucky saddle
last cedar
clever mortar
#

Having worked first line IT support, I can confirm that any connector will fit anything that even vaguely resembles a socket

fallow karma
clever mortar
deft pewter
#

Yeah, that's not news 😂

cedar chasm
#

Put in a pledge for two POE Ambers, cuz i r poe-fetishist

deft pewter
#

One's a backup for when Watchtower messes up the first?

cedar chasm
#

The other is to put in a small inflatable bathtub raft so I can enjoy it while I bathe

last cedar
deft pewter
#

Only when it's new... like yesterday.

#

Now it's old news.

last cedar
#

News is still news

glacial knot
#

raspi though D:

deft pewter
#

At what point does it become history?

last cedar
cedar chasm
#

"If i haven't heard it; it's news to me" and that ol' yarn

deft pewter
#

We just need Linus to talk about it, then we'll have a few dozen people ask if we've heard.

cedar chasm
#

Nothing really registers until I see someone post a Linus Youtube link

glacial knot
cedar chasm
#

tis how I learned about the balkans

deft pewter
#

That's the famous dog that pulled the sled, right?

cedar chasm
#

When none thought they could

deft pewter
#

Yes, before that, no-one knew dogs could pull things.

last cedar
last cedar
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Enjoy

glacial knot
#

^ obvious rick roll is obvious

hushed basalt
inner vault
last cedar
#

🦝

dusky plank
#

anybody have a hint on a headless browser with js support to read/scrape page data?
docker preferred...

deft pewter
#

Puppeteer 🎉

dusky plank
#

guess I'll build the container myself then...

deft pewter
dusky plank
#

noice, tts now tells me when the delivery guy is on its way and how long it will take to arrive when i order something to eat.. based on the tracking link in the email

deft pewter
deft pewter
#

Ok...?

#

Why, oh why do people see conspiracies in everything? It's a fucking coincidence.

#

Doubt they knew about that piece of crap 🤷‍♂️

velvet horizonBOT
deft pewter
#

🤦‍♂️

velvet horizonBOT
#

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warm shale
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wut

deft pewter
#

We're really lucky that you're not running the project then, with tinfoil hat views like that.

#

Why only 12 hours? 🤔

dusky plank
#

he‘s got a point there I agree with… HA should focus on SW, not HW

warm shale
#

I read what got moved to the hastebin.. but I'm having a hard time parsing it

dusky plank
#

see the last lunduke „Why linux sucks 2021“

deft pewter
#

Eh... there's no reason why the devs shouldn't try to bring affordable HW to the market that means more people can get into home automation without buying those crappy proprietary hubs.

#

The more people that get to enjoy HA, the better.

#

You know where the door is 🤷‍♂️

dusky plank
#

one could also point the low level devs to the issues where people struggle to get the environment running… same effect - more users. but what do i know 🥳

deft pewter
#

'low level devs'? There's a very small team of paid devs and I'd hardly call any of them 'low level'.

#

A lot of the work comes from volunteers, who are under no obligation to perform the work you see as a priority.

dusky plank
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i mean sub system / OS

deft pewter
#

Ok

dusky plank
#

i do not disagree with anything you say. just a alternative. no trolling. im out

deft pewter
#

Alternative views are fine. Just no tinfoil 😄

#

The world would be a boring place if we all thought the same thing. But some people should consider seeing a therapist.

dusky plank
#

those accusations… are not good for the community

trail crag
#

@midnight adder you should understand the server software first.

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Before jumping on

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Still a pi4 for brains. Maybe one day a pi5.

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This is the same in concept. Pi4 with some of the aggravations cut away

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Like usb3 interfering with ZigBee. Get rid of SD. Add POE.

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Super! Don't buy this then

deft pewter
#

Heard a bit about you so I am either ignoring you or just go with the flow since you are quite easy to get going.
So this is an admission that you're deliberately trolling?

trail crag
#

And no the pis aren't so great as they are out of the box for this purpose. Which is kind of the point of the CM4

deft pewter
#

Yeah, I'm not 'starting' anything. I didn't come in here with the rant about some conspiracy by the HA core team to build up a product so they can sell out.

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🤦‍♂️

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HA is open source. There's nothing stopping anyone forking it.

trail crag
#

And I'm saying....sit here for more than a few weeks before trying to prognosticate

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Or try to take the "pulse"

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Like...understand what a container is first

#

We've seen this already.

deft pewter
#

Sure, just stop pushing your crazy conspiracies or telling the dev team how to lead their project. 😉

#

There's good reason for this being one of the top projects on all of GitHub.

#

balloob and company have done an outstanding job with fostering a community (both users and contributors) and there's zero indication that they plan to sell out. This is their passion.

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You have a right to use the software 🤷‍♂️

trail crag
#

Here's what is repeated by only a few (not most): vague implications but no specifics. How would the move be made? What would the move be?

deft pewter
#

As someone concerned that HA will go closed source and only care about profit, you're definitely in the minority. I don't think they're bothered about a few paranoid folk.

#

They embrace people that contribute. Why humour the detractors?

wet pilot
#

I don't think it can be taken closed source with the license it has

deft pewter
#

So you're saying we're all idiots and can't tell what's going on?

trail crag
#

Again, you're taking a pulse but don't know where the body is.

deft pewter
#

That's a cop-out if I ever heard one.

wet pilot
#

"I'm just asking questions"

deft pewter
#

If you're going to say something, stand behind your words.

#

Most superinvolved HA users/nerds (nerds are a good thing) will not notice anything until it is too late.
Please tell me how this can be construed to mean anything other than us being short-sighted folk that can't see the impending doom.

#

Last time you were in here, you were bitching about the way you were treated. Now you've started another 'discussion' based on your slightly odd views about the state of HA and its direction. I hope you can see that there's a pattern - you come in here with a bad attitude and then act like everyone else is the problem.

#

If you want to participate in this community, great. We love to welcome new folk of all skill levels, as long as they're going to be polite and actually want to get involved. If you're just here to start fights, this probably isn't the right server for you.

#

Segue time. Who's looking forward to Squid Game?

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10919420

IMDb
Squid Game (TV Series 2021– ) - IMDb

Squid Game: With Daniel C Kennedy, John D. Michaels, Geoffrey Giuliano, Wi Ha-Joon. Hundreds of cash-strapped players accept a strange invitation to compete in children's games. Inside, a tempting prize awaits with deadly high stakes.s survival game that has a whopping 40-million-dollar prize at stake.

dull chasm
#

@midnight adder it may be time to change the subject as it is not constructive and borderline toxic

deft pewter
#

Must've missed my subtle segue.

#

Anyway... Squid Game starts tomorrow. Sounds like some cross between Battle Royale and a quiz show.

trail crag
#

@midnight adder honestly the users in this channel are here to escape HA discussion. That's what this channel is for...anything else

deft pewter
#

There've been some great shows coming out of Korea lately, I'm looking forward to this one.

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Go to the forums.

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👋

trail crag
#

or whatever install method you went with, there's a channel for it

deft pewter
#

If you prefer OpenHAB, feel free to spend your time there instead of here 🤷‍♂️

#

Either way... drop it. This discussion is finished.

forest edge
#

everyday the same crap going on in here.. could choke a horse lol

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@tidal bronze how you been man? @dull chasm Glad to see you survived, sorry you gotta deal with that mess

tidal bronze
#

Doing great man, busy as ever flying around. How you been ?

forest edge
#

actually pretty good. starting to catch up up on a lot of put aside projects

tidal bronze
#

Awesome I wish I had time to get to stuff. After weeks I'm home for 2 days 😆

forest edge
#

yea that would suck. makes you wonder if your wife could stand the sight of of ya if she had to deal with you constantly for more than 2 days at a time lol jk

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mines been making my life hell. been dealing with a cat with stage 4 kidney disease so reliving that whole nightmare from a couple of years ago, but here the last couple of days she's kind of accepted it so things have been looking up

tidal bronze
#

She's actually in Vegas should be coming tonight

forest edge
#

oh? that what she do when your gone? go gamble your retirement away? lol

tidal bronze
#

So sorry to hear that man.

forest edge
#

eh we got three kittens 15 years ago and so this is that time they start to show thier age. nothing can be done about it

tidal bronze
#

She's out there to see family and the rental property.

forest edge
#

you should try and handle that rental game yourself instead of going through a company so you will hate it quicker lol

#

friend of mine wants to move out to vegas so bad that I hear about it on a weekly basis

#

don't see the appeal myself

tidal bronze
#

Oh boy can't do Vegas. Too damn hot. Nothing to as well.

forest edge
#

i thought it was a dry heat tho

#

never been

tidal bronze
#

115 is bit too much

forest edge
#

with low humidity tho that shouldn't be bad at all

tidal bronze
#

Yes if it dips in the evening. 93 at 10pm is not acceptable by LA standards. We can have 90 days but lows are 65

forest edge
#

the going from hot during the day to freezing at night would drive me nuts tho

#

I heard vegas can feel a whole lot colder at night than 65 lol

tidal bronze
#

I think winter lows are 40s

forest edge
#

but then I would take that over what @dull chasm has to deal with which is basically trying to breathe water

#

I'm torn which I could handle better. northern blizzards or southern heat waves. I didn't care much for Florida weather so that makes me think if I had to move a direction I would probably go north lol

#

atleast with snow you don't have to go far to wash your hands or get a drink lol

tidal bronze
#

Well LA none of those extremes. Just fine.

forest edge
#

ya ya stop shoving your perfect weather down our throats and get back on your plane and fly to somewhere shitty lol

tidal bronze
#

Shitty destination are over since summer is over. So happy.

trail crag
#

@deft pewter have you seen Animal World?

#

Is there a genre name for these?

deft pewter
#

Nope. Should I?

trail crag
#

It's on Netlfix still looks like

#

A movie about rock paper scissors

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That's why I'm wondering if there's a name for these kind of things

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Should you watch it...hmm

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yeah why not

hushed basalt
#

Got my new monitors on the weekend

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2 x 32" 16:9 4k curved

#

They're soo big

forest edge
#

4 more and you can create yourself a 360 degree pod you can sit in the middle of

night zodiac
hushed basalt
#

I'd probably need 8 more for that

#

The radius isn't that tight

cedar chasm
deft pewter
#

What about Alice in Borderland? That show was awesome. Are they doing a second season?

lucid bison
#

Hello

deft pewter
tired temple
#

What are the odds that home assistant will more and more disappear behind a paywall? I heard something about esphome that was bought by nabu casa. Im afraid that the founder of HA is smelling money and will put more and more behind a subscription.

#

i have a very bad feeling about this in the long run

low harness
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Slim to none.

#

Esphome wasn't bought. It was handed over.

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It was always strongly linked to Home Assistant, and when the maintainer wanted to take a step back, the Home Assistant organization felt it was a good fit for the rest of the related open source ecosystem and decided to accept responsibility for it.

tired temple
#

thats true. It fits nicely within home assistant

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I just think its weird that someone makes a platform which is stated open source and advertises it as local outside the cloud. then starts a cloud business nabu casa and let people take a subscription for a cloud based solution within home assistant. The most logical explaination would be that Paul started the project never imagined it to become this big and starts thinking damn i need to make money out of this. And starts to think of ways to do this in home assistant. It wouldnt be the first open project that was sold or slowly turned behind a paywall where it died a slow death

dusky plank
#

mailchimp: hold my beer…

low harness
#

I can see why one would think so, and there's no shortage of bad examples of exactly what you say. Unfortunately, there are costs related with running a project like this even disregarding the full-time employees - such as hosting for the manual and forums.
The only reasonable alternative to voluntary donations (which cloud is, really) is advertisements. And I know which I prefer.

#

In the end, all we can do is believe. And I honestly do. I trust the people behind HA and Nabu Casa fully. (damn you autocorrect)

clear cairn
#

It's also completely optional. Just a way to have all of the hard stuff taken care of for you. Almost everything can be done yourself with a varying amount of difficulty. That difficulty also isn't imposed by the people behind ha rather companies like Google/Amazon not having a good local control option.

low harness
#

Besides, with the speed things are moving, something else would fill the void in weeks.

#

That’s why I call it a donation. You buy only convenience.

amber bramble
#

I don't think anything in HA has "disappeared" behind a pay wall? everything the HA cloud sub does can be done manually with varying levels of effort

deft pewter
#

Someone else is drinking the Kool Aid? 🤦‍♂️

#

Didn't we have enough of this last night?

night zodiac
brisk glen
#

I never use HA cloud and I reverse proxy ha

#

never needed to pay, but its a nice option for people

deft pewter
#

And that's fine. Not everyone needs to or wants to pay.

#

As long as enough people pay for the core team to work on it full time and cover costs, that's great.

#

I don't know where people keep getting these batshit ideas that Paulus is going to sell out.

brisk glen
#

not like there would not be a fork asap or anything

trail crag
#

@tired temple The services provided don't "put" your HA server in the cloud. They add some convenience to reach your server using a relay service to connect to it and make use of google/alexa. These can all be done manually.

tired temple
#

Thanks for the info. my mistake

alpine drum
#

I'm thinking of purchasing a few tradfri shortcut buttons to use like the amazon dash buttons. Has anyone gotten something similar working ?

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Eg, place it under the kitchen sink where your dishwasher tablets are. When they start to run out, press the button and it submits an order for that item.

deft pewter
night zodiac
#

@deft pewter I clicked "listen" to your spotify and my head instantly started bobbing

deft pewter
#

Haha, cheers.

last cedar
#

Will check it out later

deft pewter
#

Lemme pick another track... I put this Spotify station on to hear stuff like Omnimar.

last cedar
#

Is it about raccoons?

night zodiac
#

in space

#

sadly there isn't a tenor gif with a raccoon in space

deft pewter
#

I won't share their music videos here... she doesn't wear many clothes in most of them.

last cedar
#

PLEASE DO

deft pewter
night zodiac
#

oh, I wasn't listening along

deft pewter
#

Raccoon in space 👆

night zodiac
#

oh well

#

I almost posted him mono

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haha

last cedar
night zodiac
#

okay, I am going to listen to Lil Nas X's album now, lol

deft pewter
# last cedar PLEASE DO

You can look them up if you're interested. They brand themselves as 'dark pop'. Sounds more like some kinda alternative music to me, but it's catchy.

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She's quite pretty too, and the music videos are interesting.

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Russian group, with most of their songs in English.

night zodiac
#

Blyat

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rush b

deft pewter
night zodiac
#

there is a version of that gif with cs go shit in it, lol

#

the damn github bot ruins me

#

I have another 3d printer out for delivery

#

I forgot a pi for it

#

I'm going to have to get up out of my chair

deft pewter
#

Another? How many do you need?

#

I still haven't bought my first one. I keep thinking it'd be fun... then I realised I'd never use it.

night zodiac
#

I just wanted a dedi printer for TPU

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direct drive

#

my other one works really well and I didn't want to kill it

#

PLA with bowden

#

TPU is nice for the drones. a lot of things don't really work with pla

deft pewter
#

Forgot about your drone racing 😄

night zodiac
#

oh, not racing

#

just doing flippy flops

deft pewter
#

That's another hobby that sounds like it'd be fun... but too expensive and needs friends 😂

night zodiac
#

oh my goodness

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do not start quads/drones

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I looked at my bank and it told me how much I spent and I did not like it

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like, monthly summaries

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closed that window so quickly

#

I am doing a meetup with 2 peoples next week for drones because I have no friends here

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(I actually love it) making drones is so fun

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then you smash them into pieces and fix them

#

uses a ceramic antenna, very neat

#

ESP8285 I mean

deft pewter
#

Does it run ESPHome? HAve you integrated it with HA yet? smart

night zodiac
#

😛

#

I got flashbacks when it started giving me errors with platform io

#

of course my first chip was DOA

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so I was in PIO forever

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I soldered a new chip on and it worked perfectly so I was tortuing myself in PIO for no reason

#

pinky finger for scale

deft pewter
#

You've just got really small fingers and a tiny keyboard.

night zodiac
#

big if true

#

pun intended

hearty depot
#

aww, for the first time i can wear a hoodie to work again. so cozy

deft pewter
#

What was stopping you before?

hearty depot
#

always had something like > 24°c
Was sometimes hot from just sitting

deft pewter
#

Ah. Yeah, it's nice that it's cooling down a little now. Even up here, it was almost 30 Celsius some days. That's rare where I live.

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Today was about 21. Really comfortable.

hearty depot
#

lol ohrwurm incoming ** lala I'm a Ninja, I'm a Hoodie Ninja

deft pewter
#

Ohrwurm. I love it 😂

safe grotto
#

Um, hi

bitter pawn
#

yo yo

deft pewter
safe grotto
#

Is it ok to be confused reading about all the options in HA? Total beginner, will probably be setting up one in a few months and trying to learn now ahead of myself.

#

Already stuck with the base hardware question. Raspi, NAS, Amber, PC, and all the options for each... Is it only me?

clever mortar
#

So, before we direct you to a more suitable channel, what's your experience level with Linux and Docker? Loads/Some/None?

deft pewter
safe grotto
#

None, -> OS. But why would docker be better than OS?

clever mortar
deft pewter
#

More flexibility with Docker. You can install whatever you like alongside it.

clever mortar
#

Docker requires more from you, but you can get more from it

deft pewter
#

You don't have to dedicate a machine (real or virtual) to it.

safe grotto
#

Ok, does that mean I should forget HA on NAS? Is that actually preferable?

deft pewter
#

How? Docker or OS?

#

Some NAS support different ways of installing other software. Some only allow you to install from a really locked-down repository.

clever mortar
#

VM on the NAS will be fine for HAOS

safe grotto
#

So this is indeed turtles all the way down.

clever mortar
#

Sure, until you reach the Great A'Tuin

safe grotto
#

Okay thanks, I learnt that the options are indeed countless :)

clever mortar
#

Well, there's two main choices, and then it's "just" where you run those

#

That bit isn't quite countless, but it's close enough

safe grotto
#

My feeling is that since I'm a beginner with both NAS and HA, I will go with two separate cheap starter hardwares for each.

clever mortar
#

The Pi4 isn't a bad starter, and if you run on an SSD rather than SD card will likely do you for a long time

deft pewter
#

As long as there are no takedown notices for copyright infringement for other things that happen to also have 'amber' in their names.

clever mortar
safe grotto
#

Well there are at least a dozen Amber variations to choose from but yes

deft pewter
#

I don't know what a complete setup with a Pi 4 runs to these days, but a low-end NUC is probably about the same cost and maybe more powerful.

deft pewter
clever mortar
#

Of course not 😄

safe grotto
#

I guess in two weeks I will have an excel sheet with all the options.

deft pewter
#

10W TDP means it's practically free to run, and I have over a dozen containers running on it already and a few other bits.

clever mortar
#

I run on an i5 laptop of about 2013 vintage

deft pewter
#

Built-in UPS smart2

safe grotto
#

Do these like to be run for years nonstop?

deft pewter
#

I don't think they have thoughts about it either way.

safe grotto
#

Or not worse than a NAS or Raspi?

deft pewter
#

They're fine to leave running permanently.

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The power consumption was one of the main reasons I went for mine. I switched from an old tower I was given from the office... TDP on that was about 150W 😂

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I think the NUC has already paid for itself in power savings.

hearty depot
#

🤣 well..
3x 180w + 3x ~ 40w

brisk glen
fathom sparrow
#

ffs, trying to buy a PS5 is like pulling teeth

deft pewter
#

PCMR ftw partyblobcatparrot

fathom sparrow
#

well ya

deft pewter
#

Although the GPU shortage is annoying me too 😂

fathom sparrow
#

but PS has some exclusives

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that I want

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god of war, horizon, ratchet

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i'm bsically buying it for 3 games

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PC for everything else

deft pewter
#

Those are three expensive games 😄

fathom sparrow
#

my wife and I are flush rn

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running out of HA crap to buy

deft pewter
#

Hey, do what you like with your money... 😄

fathom sparrow
#

running out of HA crap to do

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and i bought a spartan season pass

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so

deft pewter
#

I'm so tempted to get a VR headset but I know I'll end up getting bored with games again.

dusky plank
#

gow was free last december, i expect it to be free again this year…

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can only recommend ghost of tsushima

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it takes two is nice to play with your waifu

night zodiac
deft pewter
#

Not very phallic... but whatever floats your boat.

night zodiac
deft pewter
#

That's just a still frame from a video of it sinking.

night zodiac
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Lol

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Didn't sink but not a great boat

crisp sapphire
#

Can hear the titanic flute in my head

orchid rose
#

Where's Jack Sparrow

inner vault
#

isn't that boat like the "Hello World" of printing because of tricksy things it does?

night zodiac
#

it is called a benchy

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it is thee benchmark

glass sky
#

Hi, I has been looking into the documentation of alarm panel card and can mot find the way to NOT arm if any door is open

opaque girder
#

Jolly 3D printing torture test 😂😂😂

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@glass sky this is an off topic channel. There's no support

safe grotto
safe grotto
opaque girder
#

I only own one for 3 months, but also never printed one

orchid rose
#

Unless you do sim games I still wouldn't recommend a VR headset. I've had very little use for my Oculus lately

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For racing games, flying sims etc it's an absolute must though. It's just so much better than playing on a screen

deft pewter
#

Some of the FPS stuff looks fun on them. Also that laser tag game that just released.

orchid rose
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It could be really fun if you have enough room. The wireless Oculus is probably awesome in that case

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I've hit the wall a few times with my fist playing SuperHot...

deft pewter
#

That tag game needs something like 100 sqm to play in.

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I'm guessing that's bigger than a lot of apartments.

orchid rose
#

Really the biggest issue I have is the lack of space. The most immersive experience is when you can move around in the virtual world, but I constantly have to keep in mind that there are walls close by

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Even stuff like Google Earth is awesome when you can move around

deft pewter
#

Do the headsets warn you when you're getting close to a boundary? I thought you had to map out a 'safe area' for them?

orchid rose
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Yes and it's quite good. Once you get close to the edge you get this mesh showing where the virtual walls are and if you push through it it shows the camera view. So for example if I have a virtual wall so I don't run into my desk I can push my head in there and look around if I need to pick something from the desk

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The problem is quick movements. When I quickly try to catch something in SuperHot, I've already hit through those virtual walls before anything registers in my brain lol

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I even tried setting up the guardian boundaries so I could walk into the next room through the door and it worked just fine

deft pewter
#

if you push through it it shows the camera view
This sounds great. I know it breaks the immersion but that's kinda the point and makes a good safety feature.

orchid rose
#

It helps when I want to grab a drink 🙂

deft pewter
#

What about games like Beat Saber? That'd be one of the main reasons I'd get a headset. Hard to replicate that kinda gameplay without VR.

orchid rose
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I haven't played beat saber, but there's not much movement in it afaik so I think it would work perfectly

jagged hound
#

hell any link to help with setting up home assistant to monitor pir sensor "alarm"

green inlet
hushed basalt
worldly axle
#

Hi

dusky plank
#

whoa duck is spooderman

storm lintel
#

hey, where would I look for support for a Pi install?

dusky plank
#

depends on what you installed

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raspbian? not here

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anything else? also not here

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go to a installation method channel suitable to your installation type.

deft pewter
#

DuckboyCow?

dull chasm
#

CowboyDucking .....come on now ...get it togther

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i understand brits are slow

deft pewter
#

Now, now. Let's not get racist.

dull chasm
#

LOL that is a far stretch of the term

last cedar
# deft pewter Now, now. Let's not get racist.

You were good at coding right?

Can we make RaccoonOS together, everything is trash, and every time you do something wrong, it doesn't BSOD but it starts eating another part of the OS.

dull chasm
static schooner
#

I steal stuff all the time when I'm coding

dull chasm
#

borrow i am sure is what you mean

static schooner
#

when I return it, it has scratches and is missing the right-front wheel

dull chasm
#

normal then

last cedar
#

"what right-front wheel"

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It never had one

dull chasm
#

shh

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mono has been driving it for years

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Hey i heard brit is going to imperial .......

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they finally wised up

clever mortar
#

Nah, we'll do both, just because we can

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Nobody does bloody minded quite like us 😄

dull chasm
#

your scotland ......a warm breeze up the skirt changes your mind ...so you dont count

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its the hard core krumpents and tea brit like mono ....that count

deft pewter
fathom sparrow
clever mortar
fathom sparrow
#

where's jonas when you need him

last cedar
fathom sparrow
#

tinkerer needs some attention

last cedar
#

@clever mortar Hey, do you like raccoons?

clever mortar
#

Yes, but only with brown sauce

last cedar
#

YOU ARE A MONSTER

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brb, calling the raccoon defence society

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Also

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brown sauce, wtf

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who eats brown sauce

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drinks?

clever mortar
#

It's the only thing for bacon, or sausages, or fried eggs, or ...

last cedar
last cedar
#

Okay, I will let you have it

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HP?

clever mortar
#

Yes

deft pewter
#

And now I want a bacon sandwich...

hushed basalt
clever mortar
dull chasm
#

^^^ he stole that gif from me

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should be reported to Scottland Yard

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was my favorite and now i am sad

clever mortar
dull chasm
#

😢

true mural
last cedar
last cedar
late gate
deft pewter
#

You monster.

#

MODS! Kick him.

clever mortar
deft pewter
#

The mod's in yellow, right?

late gate
iron cedar
#

What do the roles mean?
Like what is a jedi and what is a padawan?

velvet horizonBOT
#

The Jedi role (blue) is given to our community members who have proven themselves knowledgable and worthy of helping others. Please do not request to be assigned this role. It must be earned.

Command '~jedi' was invoked by: Tinkerer
#

The Padawan role (purple) is given to our community members who have shown that they are willing to learn, have shown progress toward becoming a bigger part of our community (a.k.a. a Jedi), and try to lend a helping hand to others when they can. Please do not request to be assigned this role. It must be earned.

Command '~padawan' was invoked by: Tinkerer
glacial knot
#

~accio

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hmm. Is that not how the bot triggers?

clever mortar
#

Yes, but not for everything 😉

velvet horizonBOT
#

No, there isn't actually a bot command for everything

Command '~everything' was invoked by: Tinkerer
clever mortar
#

See

glacial knot
#

😦

velvet horizonBOT
#

Error: Infinite loop

Command '.hassbot' was invoked by: Ludeeus
glacial knot
#

is there a logic which use . and which use ~ as leader?

clever mortar
#

The bot is happy with either

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But clearly ~ is superior

light trout
#

Whatever is closest to your finger

glacial knot
#

ahh

light trout
#

~ sucks getting to on a nordic keyboard layout

glacial knot
#

. is clearly easier on us-intl as well

deft pewter
#

I use . because I have a 65% keyboard and I'm too lazy to use my layers and tap dances to get the other symbols 😄

#

QMK ftw.

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If I had the choice, I'd use , as the leader key though. That's my preference with vim.

clever mortar
#

Soon all bots will have to use / from what I understand

deft pewter
#

🤢

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At least that's easy to access.

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Until I build a 40% keyboard... thinkfast

light trout
#

Bots can do whatever they want.

#

/ is for the new "slash command" features

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They are more powerful, but require a user to trigger them with a /

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Bots can react to any event

static schooner
#

/slap mono

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it's incomplete

deft pewter
#

Beat me, senpai

clever mortar
sand zephyr
#

I need to ask a vey basic question, I am new tothis world? Please can sk eone tell me if I install home assistant on a old laptop or buy the raspberry pi do i need to always have them on to use home assistant via my smart phone etc.

clever mortar
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Yes, you would

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HA is a service, if the service isn't running you can't use it

sand zephyr
#

Thank you very much

late gate
#

slaps @static schooner around a bit with a large trout

light trout
cyan atlas
#

Hi guys, I’m in a uni dorm and looking for some smart home stuff to tech-ify my room a bit. I’m using Google Home as my main voice controller - I already have HA installed on a RPi (although it’s currently not doing much), my TV has Chromecast built in as well. I’ve already got a smart plug for my fan, and HomeKit LED lights on the way that I will link into the setup - does anyone have any ideas for some nice stuff I could pick up?

clever mortar
cyan atlas
#

okay thanks.

tired lava
#

Hello, hints for a anti-theft? I saw ring devices, then discovered a 100€/y subscription 😅

lucid bison
#

This is cool

young sigil
#

There was a big Home Assistant 8th birthday announcement about it. Did you lose your invite? There's a while channel about it #yellow-archived

last cedar
tired lava
last cedar
#

Where the heck do you live?! :D

tired lava
last cedar
#

There are many good camera solutions without subscriptions

glacial knot
tired lava
#

my brother is going to buy home, and is scared
I dont't want to buy a dumb system, and ring want a 100/year

last cedar
#

Often locks and bars and stuff are to stop people getting in. Cameras are more for identifying who has broken in, or is trying

tired lava
glacial knot
#

ah good 230V on the door knob 🙂

last cedar
last cedar
glacial knot
tired lava
last cedar
#

A lot of people here use something call frigate though, and it seems to work well for most people

glacial knot
light trout
#

@last cedar & @glacial knot This is NOT the place for these kind of jokes.

glacial knot
#

Ok

last cedar
tired lava
#

what has more blueiris?

last cedar
#

Blue iris needs to run on a windows pc ideally, substreams, hardware acceleration from the igpu, ai from deepstack, it is pretty good tbh

tired lava
#

I don't think to go for more than 4 cameras, how is motion detection?

last cedar
#

Motion detection is the same as any contrast based detection (bad) but with the ai it is very very accurate

tired lava
#

is available a keypad/nfc tag reader for ha?

tired lava
last cedar
#

Deepstack does fine on cpu, but stream decoding is better accelerated

glacial knot
tired lava
last cedar
#

If you are thinking more rpi4, frigate will be a better bet

glacial knot
#

also, I'm unsure why you are bringing that distinction up here o.0

last cedar
glacial knot
#

Would a raccoon eat an raspberry pi?

last cedar
#

Yes

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Raccoons eat most things

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Including pcbs

tired lava
glacial knot
#

frigate is the google AI-accelerator to use with the software stack, right?

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ah no. Frigate is the software and there is a google accelerator that works with it. I stand corrected

tired lava
glacial knot
#

hm. The M.2 accelerator looks interesting to build a small box with it

soft lance
#

Does anyone here run a smart home company doing smart home stuff for customers?

brisk glen
#

I use a pi4 + google coral usb

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Works good for 3 cameras, the 4th pushes it

orchid rose
#

What resolution and do you think it would make a difference @brisk glen?

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probably not the right channel for this...

brisk glen
#

Around 720 and yes.. the pi is weak

velvet horizonBOT
#
The topic of this channel is:

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deft pewter
bitter pawn
#

needs more raccoon pics up in here

deft pewter
last cedar
#

They are so strange creatures tbh

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But I love them to bits

deft pewter
#

They're your kin.

last cedar
#

Yes

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Wait

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Does this mean I am strange too?

bitter pawn
last cedar
pseudo crest
#

Welp, I've walked in on this at the wrong time.

last cedar
whole solar
#

Hello guys,
Is tile a good device for presence detection? Or are there similair products on Ali that you can recommend?

deft pewter
#

Depends who/what you're detecting.

whole solar
#

Well to detec if some one has left home or has arrives currently i am using my phones gps but that is not working correct always. Sometimes it detects its outside home sone while i am at home so i want it to be reliable.

deft pewter
#

So you'll want to use something like monitor with your phone, and forget about tags. But take this to #integrations-archived if you want to continue.

deft pewter
#

🤯

dusky plank
#

i always say that there‘s no point in having something called „autopilot“ as long as there is a steering wheel in the car… people feel way too comfortable no matter which „level“ that autopilot works.

deft pewter
#

Yeah, fully autonomous or nothing at all. That middle ground is scary... people relax too much.

noble pivot
#

100% an "autopilot" which cant be left alone is not really an autopilot at all. Should be banned in my view. One person/thing in control OR the other, two people/things sort of in control is asking for trouble.

deft pewter
#

Never mind the other issue with it... it's a fucking subscription 🤔

#

Buy the car, rent the features? No, thank you.

noble pivot
#

HaHa, never knew that. No thanks !!

deft pewter
#

Yeah, the 'full self drive' stuff costs more...

noble pivot
#

Not that I want electric anyway.

deft pewter
#

Pretty much everything will go electric, so you may not have a choice. I just hope the market sorts itself out by the time ICE are phased out.

noble pivot
#

Think I will stick with my manual drive fosil fuel power gokart 🙂

deft pewter
#

Electric aren't affordable for most people right now.

noble pivot
#

They also see quite boring (not having actually driven one) though very fast (as long as you dont mid a 50 mile range)

#

Aparently "range anxiety" is a thing now !!

dusky plank
hushed basalt
#

Some states have actually brought in an EV tax

last cedar
#

Way before EV has even become popular here

hushed basalt
#

Maybe they should give a rebate for the money they save on the health care system by reducing particulate matter pollution

hushed basalt
clever mortar
#

Those are the moments you discover the value of rollbacks - and whether you have them enabled or not

wet pilot
#

i've made a similar mistake before

clever mortar
#

Most database admins (or "admins") have I'm sure

#

The other common mistakes I've seen are the select * and select * from * commands

hushed basalt
#

It's called chaos engineering

#

At least that's what ill be putting on the post mortem

wet pilot
#

UPDATE database.table SET foo=bar; WHERE test_that_doesn't_matter_anymore;

hushed basalt
#

SQL isn't the most tolerant language

wet pilot
#

eh, it did exactly what i told it to

hushed basalt
#

The monkey paw language

clever mortar
#

computers are good at that - do what you said, not what you wanted

hushed basalt
clever mortar
#

a bit like toddlers, and teenagers, and pissed off other halves...

wet pilot
#

no malicious compliance from computers though. just literal compliance

hushed basalt
#

Systems need checks and balances, including against human error

#

There's a reason for the saying, to err is to human

wet pilot
#

that's what the application layer is for. If you're doing SQL directly, you have the loaded shotgun, its on you not to point it at your face

clever mortar
#

It's like running as root on a unix box - it's on you to avoid making silly mistakes

inner vault
#

"Team performed an unscheduled test of the Disaster Recover Plan on Friday afternoon"

clever mortar
#

I've been involved in a few of those over the years, not all of which were directly my fault 😄

hushed basalt
#

It's not a data breach

#

It's a surprised distributed backup

subtle pasture
#

Do exactly what was asked, then get told that's not what the other person actually meant

bitter pawn
#

sometimes context is needed

#

this is why i always ask "what are you trying to do?"

#

saves alot of time because people suck at communicating.

#

and dont get me started on when people say "its complicated"....if its too complicated to put into words, you dont know what was being asked.

night zodiac
last cedar
hushed horizon
#

hello i need help, i have install on rasberry image,,,, but i can nit find login data no username no passwd

#

i have search some website i not find...

clever mortar
#

You set up your username and password during onboarding

hushed horizon
#

but on rasberry root access

clever mortar
hushed horizon
#

i muste make wlan access i have no lan here

clever mortar
deft pewter
bitter pawn
#

we only have raccoon pictures

#

im waiting for @last cedar to make some pictures with raccoons pointing to different channels.

deft pewter
deft pewter
#

The watches, which consist of traditional Japanese armor, are going to be wildly pricey.
And what does 'wildly pricey' mean, you ask? Only a little over $1k. That's cheap 🤔

#

I was expecting Patek Philippe prices...

cedar viper
#

gah

#

i think my server's nic is dead

#

its online but not connecting to my network

#

and my node is reporting as online

green inlet
cedar viper
#

bahaha

cedar viper
#

nope, turns out my WDBLUE drive died.

#

i have to somehow make a copy or else im reinstalling the whole shebang