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undone moss Oct 30, 2023, 11:54 AM

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astral vault 1. Create an issue on github, but keep in mind tuya is notorious for not follow...

Thanks!

pseudo mulch Oct 30, 2023, 12:28 PM

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hi i recently bought i power meter to see how much power i am using. i wanted to connect this via mqtt and this worked i connected to my mqtt server and confirmed that the data was coming through. but now i don't know how to get this data in my ha dashboard? (the mqtt server is running as an addon in my ha).

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 12:29 PM

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You have to configure the MQTT sensors in yaml, or have the device output discovery information

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most likely the device does not support outputting discovery information as that's an HA only thing. So you'll have to manually configure the entities vai the MQTT integration in YAML.

pseudo mulch Oct 30, 2023, 12:30 PM

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astral vault most likely the device does not support outputting discovery information as that...

is there a guide that covers this?

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 12:31 PM

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There is documentation

mortal gorgeBOT Oct 30, 2023, 12:31 PM

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MQTT

Instructions on how to setup MQTT within Home Assistant.

Quality scale

:first_place: Gold

IoT Class

Local Push

Integration type

integration

Documentation

Source

Issues

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/recorder#service-purge_entities

pseudo mulch Oct 30, 2023, 12:31 PM

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thank you

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 12:31 PM

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np

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use the website to find how to integration individual sensors by searching the integration page. MQTT has alot of documentation

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that link is just for the main integration and it doesn't cover each domain that MQTT supports. Those are separate pages.

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 12:37 PM

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Can I use automations to purge entities after for example 10 days and another automation for entities I want for 30 days and for the rest keep using the automatic purge that I did set recorder to 90 days ?
Could it cause any trouble ?

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 12:43 PM

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yep, should work fine

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 12:48 PM

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Okay good. That will help manage every entities as I want 🙂
Another question, not sure what caused this but I’m unable to include the repack: true into the automations.
I got an error:
extra keys not allowed @ data['repack']

Not sure what is wrong. But I think it could be a mix of using yaml and interface to edit the automation.

pseudo mulch Oct 30, 2023, 12:49 PM

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astral vault that link is just for the main integration and it doesn't cover each `domain` th...

just to be sure is this what you ment? ```# mqtt
mqtt:

sensor:
state_topic: "homeassistant /dsmr/reading/electricity_delivered_1"
name: "dsmr_meter"```

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 12:49 PM

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real matrix Okay good. That will help manage every entities as I want 🙂 Another question, n...

Share the YAML of what you did

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 12:49 PM

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pseudo mulch just to be sure is this what you ment? ```# mqtt mqtt: - sensor: state_t...

Without the space in the topic 😉

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 12:50 PM

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real matrix Okay good. That will help manage every entities as I want 🙂 Another question, n...

your yaml is incorrectly formatted

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on your service call

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ony way for us to help fix is to do what tinkerer said

pseudo mulch Oct 30, 2023, 12:51 PM

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alr thank you

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 12:53 PM

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description: ""
trigger:
  - platform: time
    at: "01:15:00"
action:
  - service: recorder.purge_entities
    data:
      keep_days: 10
      repack: true
    target:
      entity_id:
        - binary_sensor.bitwarden
        - binary_sensor.pihole_condo
        - binary_sensor.appletv_condo
mode: single```

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The entities list is like 100 entities … I cut it 😉

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 12:54 PM

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purge entities doesn't support repack

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 12:54 PM

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astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 12:54 PM

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you can't just add things to service calls, you have to follow the docs

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 12:54 PM

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Hm. I didn’t understand it like that… How can I repack the after a purge ?

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 12:55 PM

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because the purge service supports repack

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purge entities does not

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not really rocket science

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just how they function

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 12:55 PM

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I saw a forum post where it was included 😁 but I probably mixed up some stuff

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 12:55 PM

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don't follow guides, follow the docs

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use guides to help, but always consult the docs

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people make shit up all the time

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AI does the same too, so you can't trust AI either

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:00 PM

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Okay… True. 😁
So i finally use SQLite and vacuum; it after the purge of entities… my db did go from 4.5G to 2.1G…
And purge service runs every night ? So I could just wait for it to repack I believe ?

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:02 PM

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repack only happens on the second sunday of every month

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:03 PM

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Hm. So if I clean so much data more often than that maybe I should repack it with vacuum manually or with cron…

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:03 PM

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or you could not bother with any of this

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waste of time IMO

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I just store 90 days or 60 days, can't remember

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:09 PM

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When I kept the default 10 days without include: in the recorder settings I had a db size of 2.5G… Yesterday, I included in recorder only like 200 or 300 entities.
But with all the 945 entities the db size was 4.5 after something like 20 days…
I fear that if I left the repack to be done only on every 30 day with that volume of data I have, it will be too big for HA or at least slow it.

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:09 PM

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just only keep a recorder for the entities you need

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:10 PM

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Forgot to say that I set the recorder to 90 days without include. That’s why I had a db of 4.5G in 20 days.

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:10 PM

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I can guarentee you don't need the history on that random device_tracker created from that random integration

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in the 7+ years of using this software, I've rarely cared about any entity over 30 days. Now w/ LTS, all the entities that you want to keep historical data on, have historical data. And you don't really need that for normal history.

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I keep lights, switches, people, and a handful of temperature, humidity and lux sensors. Everything else is useless info unless you want it

void maple Oct 30, 2023, 1:12 PM

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Long term data should go into a time series database so you can actually do something useful with it

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:12 PM

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right

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and it does, it's a separate table that's optimized for numerical information

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:13 PM

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With the include and the automations, I believe it will stay under 3G…
Most entries in the SQLite are caused by my ping sensors… which I would like to keep but just for 10 days. So the automation is doing the job. But I delete those entities with the days 10 days but I don’t repack.
Will it not became to big if I repack only every 30 day ?

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:14 PM

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repack is resource intensive

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so, as long as you understand that, do whatever you want to do

void maple Oct 30, 2023, 1:16 PM

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real matrix With the include and the automations, I believe it will stay under 3G… Most ent...

You could roughly calculate how much the storage grows per day with some simple division. What issue are you trying to fix? Are you space limited?

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:16 PM

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Okay. So I’ll just try it and see. And I’ll adjust the thing if it became too big.

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Yeah I can. It’s pretty stable. At 9:40 yesterday, it was 4191Mb. and for example at 17:45 it was at 4373Mb. So it’s growing fast.
That’s why I started include: in recorder and did my automations to purge.
I’m still worried about the repack every 30 days… But I think I’ll just wait and see if it’s fine as-is.
I have no space limitations. I just think I have to not let it grows as it was pretty fast 😁

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:23 PM

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I really think you should reduce the number of entities you're tracking

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there's really no reason to track everything

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which is the default

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I can guarentee you have about 500 of the 900 entities that you do not need to have in history

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I'm alittle extreme. I have about 200 things tracked out of 1800 entities.

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:27 PM

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Those who make the much data are those who I keep only 10 days now… Those ping sensors…
the sun, weather, automations, switch, etc aren’t making a lot of data in the db.
Well, I let it live a little now with all those include: and my purge automations and I’ll wait the second Sunday of the month and I will adjust if it needs.

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I Will wc -l and get the number of entities I kept in recorder … I think it’s like 200 or 300…

void maple Oct 30, 2023, 1:30 PM

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You can run a query that shows you the number of entries per entity. Use that to know what to exclude:
<#general-archived message>

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:31 PM

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void maple You can run a query that shows you the number of entries per entity. Use that to...

Yeah that what I used. 😁

void maple Oct 30, 2023, 1:32 PM

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Why would you need wc then?

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:32 PM

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Okay. Maybe I can do better. I kept 482 of the 945.

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Oh wc… just to count the number of include I put in recorder

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:33 PM

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why do you need the ping sensors? I'm curious. What are you going to do w/ that info?

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I keep ping & speed for my internet only, so I can argue bills w/ my ISP

junior summit Oct 30, 2023, 1:34 PM

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I use ping sensors for vpn connected sites / endpoints

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So i can track their states

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:35 PM

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right, but do you need a history?

junior summit Oct 30, 2023, 1:35 PM

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Not need per se but its nice to check for previous outages

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But you are right there are dedicated tools for that. E.g. smokeping

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:37 PM

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yeah, that's really my only point. HA is meant to track what you care about. I used to track all sorts of crap, then I found that I never looked at it.

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There are times where I do look at something and I don't have a history, but it's never been detrimental. And if it is, I just add that entity

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:38 PM

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I ping all my containers (which are macvlan with their own IP) and my devices like my Zigbee coordinator, my voip box, etc… I have three or four ssh reverse shell, like my fathers house, where I ping few device there to be sure everything runs fine there like a pihole hole and his voip box…

junior summit Oct 30, 2023, 1:39 PM

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I don‘t filter 😅 my db is huge

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:39 PM

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real matrix I ping all my containers (which are macvlan with their own IP) and my devices li...

Yah, I get that, but that doesn't explain why you need the history

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if the ping is high, just make actionable notifications. Don't store the history. Or you can make a template binary_sensor that represents high ping, and track that in history.

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:41 PM

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It’s pretty practical. I had a trouble where my z2m will fail and don’t restart … and couldn’t get my finger on the problem, it was affecting my Zigbee coordinator also… So the ping was a big help to pin point the exact time and exact device that was causing this.

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Or when my father calls and he say « the phone wasn’t working yesterday in the PM » or something like that…

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:43 PM

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astral vault if the ping is high, just make actionable notifications. Don't store the histor...

Not sure what you mean by that ?

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Oh… so I create a binary helper to keep downtime or high ping of an entity… Is that what you mean ? That could be a good idea… and save a lot of records in the db…

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 1:45 PM

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I just use an external tool for tracking host and service status

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https://github.com/louislam/uptime-kuma

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:51 PM

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real matrix Oh… so I create a binary helper to keep downtime or high ping of an entity… Is t...

{{ states('sensor.ping') | float > 40 }}

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you'll only have an on or off

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and it will only be in the database when it changes from < 40 to > 40

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:52 PM

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Oh that’s even better than what I understood. Nice.

astral vault Oct 30, 2023, 1:53 PM

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and if your stuff always works, it will basically always be false and never have more than 1 db entry

real matrix Oct 30, 2023, 1:55 PM

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Yeah most of them are always up… Just a few of them are down sometimes… Thanks for that trick!

cursive saddle Oct 30, 2023, 2:23 PM

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Hi All. Please if someone could point me in the right direction. I have connected a flow meter to a D1Mini with tasmota. That all works perfect. Everything shows up in home assistant. I now however need to create a sensor using the values from tasmota.

This here is the code that I found. I have put it in configuration.yaml

unique_id: flow_meter_1
state_topic: "tele/flow_meter_1/SENSOR"
name: flow_meter_1
value_template: "{{ ( value_json['COUNTER'].C1 | multiply(0.001648) | float ) | round(2) }}"
unit_of_measurement: "l"
qos: 2

The sensor creates but the value shows at "Unknown"

What am i doung wrong?

mortal gorgeBOT Oct 30, 2023, 2:39 PM

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@cursive saddle To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Shift+Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks.
```yaml
example: here
```
Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

winged orbit Oct 30, 2023, 4:03 PM

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new to dashboards any tips guys?

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 4:05 PM

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#frontend-archived has them

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(as do the docs, and the forum has a whole section for them)

winged orbit Oct 30, 2023, 4:06 PM

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thanks tinkerer

tall mountain Oct 30, 2023, 4:09 PM

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Hello, I installed a Shelly pro1pm in my home to control my electric water heater, I also have a solar water heater. (Not smart and don't want to make it ) and I want it to turn on only if it was a cloudy day. I find the default weather forecast not reliable enough. Does anyone have an idea? I'm looking for a cloud solution and not a sensor.

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 4:11 PM

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Try one of the many other weather integrations?

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There's a whole host built in, and many more custom options

mortal gorgeBOT Oct 30, 2023, 4:12 PM

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There is no universal best weather integration. Which one works best for you depends on where you live - try them all and see which is generally the most accurate.

wise walrus Oct 30, 2023, 5:47 PM

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Hey everyone, I have recently decided to change up my infrastructure from ProxMox back to oVirt; I know it's going EOL soon, but for me, the ease of migration and HA capabilities outweigh the timetable. That said, oVirt doesnt natively support containers, so I'll be setting up another box specific for these tasks. Anyone have any tried and true pointers for a base OS? I definitely dig the LXD aspect of ProxMox, but I am NOT a fan of the UI, nor how I have to go back and edit config files behind the scenes for containers that need a little extra configuration.

amber falcon Oct 30, 2023, 7:08 PM

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On the home assistant dashboard I have added wipro smart lights that support light effects via the wipro or smart life app. I have added it via the Tuya integration + smartlife app to HA. How can I use light effects like breathing or rainbow etc?

mortal gorgeBOT Oct 30, 2023, 7:09 PM

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Light

Instructions on how to setup your lights with Home Assistant.

Quality scale

:house: Internal

IoT Class

Unknown

Integration type

entity

Documentation

Source

Issues

https://imgur.com/a/8vIr62w

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 7:09 PM

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Using the light.turn_on service call, documented there

jolly bronze Oct 30, 2023, 7:13 PM

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any ideas what would cause homeassistant to intermittently disconnect and say "unable to connect to Home Assistant. retrying in...."?

currently have it running through proxmox. vm stays up and i can access proxmox still while this occurs.

wraith basalt Oct 30, 2023, 7:15 PM

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Hi all, maybe a stupid question but how do I disconnect my Home assistant from a WiFi? I have my instance connected via both Ethernet and WiFi (historic reasons) and I‘d like to leave the WiFi

jolly bronze Oct 30, 2023, 7:23 PM

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jolly bronze any ideas what would cause homeassistant to intermittently disconnect and say "u...

should i disable ipv6 in the homeassistant network settings?

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reading a few posts where people had to disable that due to disconnects?

jolly bronze Oct 30, 2023, 7:25 PM

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wraith basalt Hi all, maybe a stupid question but how do I disconnect my Home assistant from a...

can you just go to settings > system > network and disable wifi there?

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under configure network interfaces

wraith basalt Oct 30, 2023, 7:27 PM

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… I don’t have a configure network interfaces Dialoge, all that i have is a window with multiple tabs, each for one interface where i can scan for networks and join networks

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But no „disable“ button

amber falcon Oct 30, 2023, 7:28 PM

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cosmic thunder Using the `light.turn_on` service call, documented there

I think my Tuya integration only allows the preset scenes saved on the smartlife app. If I want an effect that changes lights in a particular fashion do I need to fork the Tuya integration and implement that myself?

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 7:28 PM

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No

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HA just says hey light X, please do effect Y

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The light has to support it itself

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(or whatever hub you're using to connect the light)

amber falcon Oct 30, 2023, 7:30 PM

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Got it.
I know the lights support it because API s exist to change to certain RGB values. It should be possible then to call in certain order to create whatever effect. Am I getting this wrong?

jolly bronze Oct 30, 2023, 7:30 PM

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wraith basalt … I don’t have a configure network interfaces Dialoge, all that i have is a wind...

strange, if i go to settings > system > network, there's a section that says configure network interfaces and i can drop the ipv4/ipv6 sections down with options to disable/etc

wraith basalt Oct 30, 2023, 7:30 PM

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Yes I have that too, i can disable the iPv4 and IPv6 but the interface stays „connected“ to the network

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At least that is what is tells me

jolly bronze Oct 30, 2023, 7:31 PM

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is there also one for wifi? my machine running proxmox doesn't use wifi, so i just have the ipv4/ipv6

jolly bronze Oct 30, 2023, 7:32 PM

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wraith basalt Yes I have that too, i can disable the iPv4 and IPv6 but the interface stays „co...

may have to restart home assistant afterwards? i'm not entirely sure, but that's where i'd have looked first

wraith basalt Oct 30, 2023, 7:43 PM

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Ok I see, thanks will give it a try

lapis lotus Oct 30, 2023, 7:53 PM

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Did you ever figure out a way? I too have many of the Amazon smart plugs

noble bramble Oct 30, 2023, 7:53 PM

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lapis lotus Did you ever figure out a way? I too have many of the Amazon smart plugs

Nope! I’ve just put this too the side

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I have like 10 smart plugs and that would be way too many routines

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Contemplating just replacing them with meross or tapo plugs

lapis lotus Oct 30, 2023, 7:55 PM

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Dang! I also have 10 or more...that's too bad. Thanks

winged orbit Oct 30, 2023, 7:58 PM

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hi guys

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could someone help my dashboard always says i am not home

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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What are you using for location tracking?

winged orbit Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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my phone

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 8:00 PM

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So, the Android or iOS app?

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Did you set up remote access so it can reach HA when you're away from home?

winged orbit Oct 30, 2023, 8:03 PM

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i believe so @cosmic thunder

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 8:03 PM

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Well... either you did or you didn't...

winged orbit Oct 30, 2023, 8:03 PM

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i have got it tracking my pixel phone

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 8:03 PM

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And remote access?

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You set that up, and it works, or ...?

winged orbit Oct 30, 2023, 8:03 PM

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where would i check if i set up remote access

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 8:04 PM

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Then you almost certainly didn't

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You'd have either subscribed to the Nabu Casa cloud service, and set that up, or set up DuckDNS/whatever with port forwarding and SSL

twilit sage Oct 30, 2023, 8:04 PM

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I set up a custom domain and a letsencrypt cert to access HA.

It was working fine, but recently I decided to switch to a different domain name.

I set everything up again.

I can access my HA using my **new ** custom domain from all of my devices within my network, including Chrome on my Android phone.

And I can assess my HA instance using the HA app on my Android from outside of my local network. But when I try to access it from *within * the network:

"Unable to connect to Home Assistant. The Home Assistant Hostname certificate mismatch..."

Halp?

winged orbit Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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@cosmic thunder i have subscribed to the Nabu Casa Cloud service

mortal gorgeBOT Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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@winged orbit Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.
When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 8:05 PM

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winged orbit <@332579266623438848> i have subscribed to the Nabu Casa Cloud service

Then make sure you've set up the #android-archived app - and that channel can help you

winged orbit Oct 30, 2023, 8:06 PM

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ok thanks

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 8:06 PM

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twilit sage I set up a custom domain and a letsencrypt cert to access HA. It was working fi...

Looks like whatever URL the app is using is using the old hostname

twilit sage Oct 30, 2023, 8:09 PM

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I have the new URL configured in Home Assistant URL and I cleared both the cache and data for the app and triggered the original setup wizard.

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 8:09 PM

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#android-archived can probably also help you with that, assuming you have purged all use of the old certs

twilit sage Oct 30, 2023, 8:10 PM

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I've never configured the Internal connection URL in the past. I wonder what that field is for. 🤔

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 8:10 PM

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For those that use a proxy for SSL

twilit sage Oct 30, 2023, 8:10 PM

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I didn't realize there was an #android-archived channel until you mentioned it to lchappy just now. I'll cross-post my issue there.

cosmic thunder Oct 30, 2023, 8:10 PM

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I do that, so I have the internal and external URLs set separately

twilit sage Oct 30, 2023, 8:11 PM

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Ah, no proxy here. Thanks for spoon feeding me tho.

meager compass Oct 30, 2023, 8:41 PM

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does "All yaml configuration" reload the frontend: bits too?

molten halo Oct 30, 2023, 8:54 PM

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Hi, which channel should I use to ask about my Aqara 2 way relay and that it's two outputs appear as lights only (I use it for a bathroom fan)?

fervent loom Oct 30, 2023, 8:56 PM

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Any homeassistant organizr users ?

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i have homeassistant reverse proxyed, but now i wanna install a addon the visual studio code and that doesnt work anymore

fringe lion Oct 30, 2023, 9:17 PM

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@astral vault hey i came across your handle when looking for a solution to an issue i have with my BME280s, think i can pick your brain? i am trying to find a way to "calibrate" but it seems that i have to use an offset? (sorry i am way over my head as far as coding either my pi or teensy (which is what the BME280 is on))

supple hearth Oct 30, 2023, 9:24 PM

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Hi. I have a weird question. I want to have a sensor that is set to "Online" when new data comes in, but turns to Offline if no new data has come-in in the last 2 minuets.

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The data would be updated every 5 seconds (+ or - 10 seconds )

balmy shell Oct 30, 2023, 9:31 PM

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Dose anyone know how to have a Teckin smart plug to home assistant.

west tinsel Oct 30, 2023, 9:40 PM

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fringe lion <@372843932096397333> hey i came across your handle when looking for a solution ...

Randomly tagging people isn't too appreciated here. Better way is to choose the appropriate channel and post the question there.
That way more people with a solution for your problem might answer and people don't get annoyed by getting tagged all the time.

fringe lion Oct 30, 2023, 9:42 PM

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west tinsel Randomly tagging people isn't too appreciated here. Better way is to choose the ...

sorry, it was ment more because i saw his post on a fourm about that sensor, i shall refrain from doing such things going forward

west tinsel Oct 30, 2023, 9:46 PM

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You are having problems with a BME280 in ESPHome?

fringe lion Oct 30, 2023, 9:47 PM

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west tinsel You are having problems with a BME280 in ESPHome?

not in esphome, but the values for humidity are so off im trying to get it to output the correct value.

west tinsel Oct 30, 2023, 9:48 PM

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So a problem with a template sensor, right?

fringe lion Oct 30, 2023, 9:51 PM

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maybe? i think its more that the relative humidity is showing 100% most of the time when its closer to 85-90

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cant really get my humidifier to turn on if the humidity is showing 100

pure spindle Oct 30, 2023, 10:16 PM

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I am noticing a weird issue. My HA install will prompt me that an update is available, and then when I hit update, it will show an error stating that its unavailable. All update notifications then disappear.

Edit: Apparently it decided to update, now it shows 2023.10.5. I am going to restart HA and see if any other update prompts decide to show.

dire edge Oct 30, 2023, 10:53 PM

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Hi,
I am reading this article: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-control-amazon-smart-plugs-from-home-assistant-via-emulated-hue-and-alexa-media-player/464254
and I would need someone to help me and walk me though how to implement it

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If it is allowed, we can DM to get stuff done more easily or even call with screen sharing

pure spindle Oct 30, 2023, 11:14 PM

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dire edge Hi, I am reading this article: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-cont...

Hi, I had this same setup. I would recommend doing something else for the setup, it's not the most reliable. This is what I use, modified to work with the plug: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/home-assistant-controlled-window-fan-vornado-transom-alexa-enabled/566256

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If you would still like to go the emulated hue route, feel free to DM me questions.

latent crypt Oct 30, 2023, 11:34 PM

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anybody know a good way to do rem sleep detection with a galaxy watch in HA?

dire edge Oct 31, 2023, 12:07 AM

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pure spindle Hi, I had this same setup. I would recommend doing something else for the setup,...

Does that mean it will rely on the cloud twice ?

pure spindle Oct 31, 2023, 12:08 AM

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dire edge Does that mean it will rely on the cloud twice ?

I don’t get what you mean

dire edge Oct 31, 2023, 12:08 AM

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Nvm actually I answered my question by my own thought 😅

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But I meant that it would rely on the cloud to get to alexa and then again for the virtual's home

fathom trail Oct 31, 2023, 3:26 AM

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can i delete preinstalled integrations like google translate and radio browser if i dont need them ? or does my whole system collapse then ? 😄

void maple Oct 31, 2023, 3:33 AM

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Probably not. Here's a list of default integrations if you're curious: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/default_config/

fathom trail Oct 31, 2023, 3:34 AM

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void maple Probably not. Here's a list of default integrations if you're curious: <https://...

probably not collapsing my system or i should probably not delete them ? 😄 thanks for the list tho

void maple Oct 31, 2023, 3:35 AM

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It will probably be fine and your HA won't collapse. Having backups is always a good idea though

fathom trail Oct 31, 2023, 3:35 AM

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gotcha

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can i have one dashboard layout for pc and another for iphone ? with the same user ?

long blaze Oct 31, 2023, 3:40 AM

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fathom trail can i have one dashboard layout for pc and another for iphone ? with the same us...

The new conditional card improvements coming in 2023.11 will allow you to show different cards based on screen size.

fathom trail Oct 31, 2023, 3:40 AM

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great thanks

surreal smelt Oct 31, 2023, 5:06 AM

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anyone have any recommendations on what device to use for measuring power on a 14-50 circuit?

willow bay Oct 31, 2023, 5:20 AM

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My system is logging a large number of 'identity' and other entities showing them to be 'unknown', ' unavailable', or going to a state (such as a cover becoming 'closed') when nothing is really changing. I have around 100 lights, 20 switches, 15 covers, etc., all on a Ubiquiti Wi-Fi mesh that has 5 AP's. Signal strength looks OK and everything works fine, but getting 20-30+ log messages per minute is a pain. Any thoughts as to how I can track this down?

junior summit Oct 31, 2023, 5:41 AM

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Are these entities mqtt related?

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My logbook easily shows 60+ messages per minute when I‘m moving but these are usually correct

willow bay Oct 31, 2023, 5:53 AM

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@mstone No, I have added an mqtt broker recently, however this predated that and I only have 2 digital sensors configured to mqtt. I do have the HomeKit controller which I trigger from switches and drive automations.

junior summit Oct 31, 2023, 6:22 AM

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anything weird in the logs?

midnight zephyr Oct 31, 2023, 6:49 AM

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What system do you guys recommend to run Home Assistant? I currently have a Raspberry Pi Model 4B running on a micro SD card. Is it wise to upgrade to an SSD or buy something like HA Green?

void maple Oct 31, 2023, 6:52 AM

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A (U)SFF/Mini PC

willow bay Oct 31, 2023, 7:08 AM

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not sure. I am looking for patterns - the entries seem to come in bursts, say 7-20 at a time with multi-second gaps between them. These groups are usually all 'unavailables' or 'unknowns' , interspersed with covers going to say the 'open' state. The covers are blinds connected via Wi-Fi as is everything else. As examples there was a "Mbedroom_3 MB 3 was opened" and a "Mbedroom_2 Indentify became unknown" at the same time (along with many others) Mbedroom is a bedroom cover, MB 3 is a blind, and Mbedroom_2 is another cover. Perhaps I need to understand diagnostics?

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just taken another look at these and I believe that most of them originate from a ACMEDA Pulse 2 hub that communicates via Wi-Fi with 11 roller blinds. The logging ones are close to the range limit of the hub so I think I am seeing dropouts. There are other entities, but much less frequent. I have ordered am ACMEDA hub repeater to provide better coverage and the base unit is known to have range limitations. I will wait on the repeater and revisit this then. Thanks for your input, it focused me on what was happening.

granite crypt Oct 31, 2023, 7:28 AM

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hey guys, as a general rule of thumb is there much of a difference between tuya local and local tuya? is one better than the other or are they just as good as each other?

prime hedge Oct 31, 2023, 7:50 AM

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Hello, has anyone ever experience a sudden aqara disconnection from Z2M? After a reboot I only see a Zigbee voc sensor (frient) e two aqara radiator E1 s...more than 15 other aqara sensors (contacts and temp/hum) have disappeared from Zigbee2mqtt dashboard

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 8:02 AM

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prime hedge Hello, has anyone ever experience a sudden aqara disconnection from Z2M? After a...

#zigbee-archived can help there - but that's usually low battery or RF interference (eg WiFi)

storm violet Oct 31, 2023, 8:57 AM

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Hey, my log is being truncated, even in the downloaded version, and so I can't see what the whole error is. Any way to stop this:
2023-10-31 08:36:24.184 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.rest.data] Error fetching data: https://www.englishcouncil.gov.uk/apiserver/ajaxlibrary failed with

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It's also truncated the same if I open the log in studio code server

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 9:00 AM

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Hey guys... got a temperature sensor that has unit of measurement as "C"... tried setting it to "°C" in developer tools -> states, but it reverts after 5 minutes (the next measurement)... Is there a way to manually set it to "°C" in the card, or somewhere else that'd remain ?

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 9:00 AM

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Cards are a topic for #frontend-archived - but you need to solve that in the integration for the sensor

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 9:00 AM

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the integration is .... esphome

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thanks, figured out why it resets,,

river marten Oct 31, 2023, 11:46 AM

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I'm looking for the guy who made his own sensor (with temperatur etc). I want to know the webstie, for showing my colleague the sensor.

west tinsel Oct 31, 2023, 11:51 AM

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There are thousands of guys and ladies who made their own sensors with temperature and so on.

river marten Oct 31, 2023, 11:53 AM

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But he's selling it through his own website. A Dutch guy haha. Tried to find the guy through this channel. Saw him posting something a few (monts/days) ago.

modern quest Oct 31, 2023, 12:05 PM

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hello world ! i want to know if it is possible to declare a room for an entities created in configuration.yaml ? on my entites list, it is marked as read only so i can't modify it.

astral vault Oct 31, 2023, 12:10 PM

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No, but you can create old school groups

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area's are UI only

west tinsel Oct 31, 2023, 12:13 PM

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Or add a unique id (if the integration supports it). Then it is editable and can be assigned to a room in the UI.

modern quest Oct 31, 2023, 12:14 PM

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west tinsel Or add a unique id (if the integration supports it). Then it is editable and can...

i look that 😄

cobalt ferry Oct 31, 2023, 12:28 PM

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do you guys know if I must own an amazon echo to be able to use an amazon device (specifically, the Amazon Smart Air Quality Monitor), or is there a way to kinda emulate it through home assistant?

astral vault Oct 31, 2023, 12:30 PM

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you need to own an alexa, and there's 0 ways to integrate it into HA regardless if you own an alexa or not.

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TLDR: Don't buy amazon smart home products

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There may be a way to use a homekit bridge to do it. Not sure though

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either way, still requires alexa

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:15 PM

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So... HASS installed in a VM.. is there a way to install qemu-guest-agent? Someone said it's already installed, but Proxmox doesn't see it .... "Guest Agent not running"

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Why isn't there an option to interact with the "host" os (as in not docker) ?

brittle dome Oct 31, 2023, 1:17 PM

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interact how?

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:17 PM

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install OS package, etc ?

void maple Oct 31, 2023, 1:17 PM

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Because it's not a normal general purpose OS

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:18 PM

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Sure, but there should still be a way to do these things... (after accepting a condition or something)

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"This could be dangerous! Are you sure whatever.. y/n"

brittle dome Oct 31, 2023, 1:19 PM

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there is but then you reboot or upgrade and pooof, it's gone

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:19 PM

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because you're still in docker ..

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that's not what I mean

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 1:19 PM

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No, you can't install stuff on the host OS

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The host OS is disposable

void maple Oct 31, 2023, 1:19 PM

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upper pasture Sure, but there should still be a way to do these things... (after accepting a c...

No, there is no package manager in the OS itself. Open the VNC console, enter login, then try systemctl status qemu-guest. Also try a cold boot

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 1:20 PM

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If you want to install stuff on the host then you need to ditch HAOS and add-ons and go with Debian and Docker

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:22 PM

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VNC doesn't appear to be running/accessible on the default port ?

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 1:23 PM

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VNC isn't installed on the host

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:23 PM

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so .. login .. what user/pass do I need to use ?

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 1:24 PM

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None

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There's no login on the console

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:24 PM

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➜ ~ login
a0d7b954-ssh login:

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 1:24 PM

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You need to set that up in the #add-ons-archived settings

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:24 PM

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after login...

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➜ ~ systemctl status qemu-agent
zsh: command not found: systemctl

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 1:25 PM

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Right

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When you SSH on you're inside another container

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:26 PM

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yes, login via the proxmox console did give me a way to check

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 1:26 PM

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HAOS is not a full blown Linux experience

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:26 PM

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and "Unit qemu-agent.service could not be found."

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so / is mounted readonly..

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 1:27 PM

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HAOS is not a full blown Linux experience

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:27 PM

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good, but it's supposedly able to run in a VM .. why isn't qemu-guest-agent part of it ..

void maple Oct 31, 2023, 1:28 PM

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upper pasture and "Unit qemu-agent.service could not be found."

Yeah that's normal

# findmnt /
TARGET SOURCE    FSTYPE   OPTIONS
/      /dev/sda3 squashfs ro,relatime,errors=continue

What does ha os info say?

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:29 PM

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board: generic-x86-64; boot:b; data_disk: QEMU-QEMU-HARDDISK-drive-scsi0; update_available: false; version & version_latest: 11.1

void maple Oct 31, 2023, 1:29 PM

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You want the ova for VMs

# ha os info
board: ova
boot: A
data_disk: QEMU-QEMU-HARDDISK-drive-scsi0
update_available: false
version: "11.1"
version_latest: "11.1"

# systemctl is-active qemu-guest
active

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:30 PM

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thought both are identical..

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and had trouble converting the OVA for proxmox LVM (haven't updated the host from 6.4-15 yet)

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(and don't have any other storage besides lvm, no "thin", no "disk")

void maple Oct 31, 2023, 1:32 PM

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Make a HA backup, download it, then stop the VM, detach the disk, attach the OVA like this to your VM: #1162789585894514748 message
Change the boot order, restore and have fun

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:32 PM

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which results in qcow2 needing a "dir" storage which I don't have

void maple Oct 31, 2023, 1:32 PM

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No. Just try it

kind orbit Oct 31, 2023, 1:34 PM

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How can I see a list of all entities that are being logged? They used to be listed in the history vieuw together with a graph so I could determine if it was worth logging but now that's gone. I want that list back so I can add some things to the exclude list.

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:35 PM

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@void maple "raw" LVM disks have a fixed size when they get created. qcow2 on the other hand are sort of "dynamic". Will it prompt me to set a XX amount of GB for the disk?

void maple Oct 31, 2023, 1:35 PM

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You are importing the QCOW2 to whatever your storage supports. It will not. Like I said, try it out. You can also do the import first and keep your disk, doesn't matter

void maple Oct 31, 2023, 1:47 PM

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upper pasture ➜ ~ systemctl status qemu-agent zsh: command not found: systemctl

That's also not the VNC console, btw

upper pasture Oct 31, 2023, 1:48 PM

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yeah got it ..

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importing qcow2 now, let's see...

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wrote @ the thread...

visual plaza Oct 31, 2023, 2:39 PM

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I have HA running virtually on my PC. Wanted to make sure it did what I wanted it to do before committing. I have a rPi4. So I’m going to image a SD card with HA, do a backup on my PC, then how do I push the restore on the rPi end? If I put the backup file on a usb stick could it be done that way?

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 2:40 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#copying-your-backups-to-another-location
https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#restoring-a-backup

vague narwhal Oct 31, 2023, 2:41 PM

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Morning! For anyone familiar, is it normal to have to reauthorize nest devices constantly? I have to reauthorize my google nest integration at least twice a week.

trim edge Oct 31, 2023, 2:43 PM

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is it possible to change the radius of the home zone

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 2:43 PM

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Yes

mortal gorgeBOT Oct 31, 2023, 2:43 PM

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Zone

Instructions on how to set up zones within Home Assistant.

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:house: Internal

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cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 2:43 PM

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Explained in the docs

trim edge Oct 31, 2023, 2:44 PM

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cosmic thunder Explained in the docs

thanks

tacit tendon Oct 31, 2023, 2:53 PM

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Hi guys,i have Xiaomi MiWifi router,i have one ststic ip(I can connect to it from an external network)
How can i make port forwarding to open home assistant in other network.

How can I configure the HA IP to be local, so that when I connect to a static IP, I will be transferred to the local one?

trim edge Oct 31, 2023, 2:54 PM

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cosmic thunder Explained in the docs

It said the yaml would override the UI one but it didn't

tacit tendon Oct 31, 2023, 2:54 PM

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Now on XA I just have this static IP connected in the settings and I can connect to it from another network, but local devices do not work (like IP cameras)

slate slate Oct 31, 2023, 2:55 PM

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Hi,
I'm asking here because I'm not sure where to file my question.
Is it possible to create a "stateless" virtual sensor? (Maybe call it a "pure functional sensor" or something)
What do I mean with that? A sensor that is entirely based on the value of something else (like another sensor) and doesn't have a real presence in the database.

If you look through the forums, you'll get pointed to template sensors, or the derivative sensor in the helper section.
But these sensors essentially take measurements. If the sensor they depend on updates, they "measure" their new state and write it into the database, just like any other sensor.

There are several problems with that:
a) You have redundant writes to the database.
b) You can't get values for the sensor before it was created.
c) You get old values for the sensor should you update the function that calculates the values.

This behaviour is sometimes exactly what you want (e.g. when dealing with calibration), but often you can just calculate the values based on other values on demand.

If there is no current way in HA to do this: Is it possible to implement a custom sensor for this?

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 2:56 PM

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No, the data has to come from somewhere, and HA doesn't have a TARDIS function

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You can exclude entities from history, but then you don't get any history

rain river Oct 31, 2023, 3:00 PM

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whats a reasonable size for home-assistant_v2.db

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 3:00 PM

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Depends on your system

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Usually not a few hundred GB

rain river Oct 31, 2023, 3:00 PM

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ok mine is 2GB

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but its running on a pretty beefy setup

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 3:02 PM

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12 GB here

rain river Oct 31, 2023, 3:02 PM

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i keep getting a warning about an attribute being too large but I dont know how to exclude a specific attribute from being recorded

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I want the state to be saved just not the attribute

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are attributes globs?

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 3:04 PM

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Not sure what you mean

slate slate Oct 31, 2023, 3:05 PM

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cosmic thunder No, the data has to come from _somewhere_, and HA doesn't have a TARDIS function

Sure, some data has to be in the database, but nothing prevents you from calculating new data from that, does it?

When you have a sensor.temp_celsius in your database, you could have a virtual sensor sensor.temp_fahrenheit = sensor.temp_celsius * 9/5 + 32 that just takes the database values from sensor.temp_celsius, without the need to have any database values itself, or not?
No need for a TARDIS. 😕

rain river Oct 31, 2023, 3:05 PM

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it says you can exclude "entity globs" in the recorder documentation

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 3:05 PM

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That'd be entities, not attributes

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 3:06 PM

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slate slate Sure, some data has to be in the database, but nothing prevents you from calcula...

No, that's not how HA works

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Your desire to have history, while not writing to the database, is also contradictory

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The database is your history

astral vault Oct 31, 2023, 3:08 PM

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there's the state machine (which is what you're calling 'the database') and then there's the database, which is a history of the state machine

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state machine is all the current entity states in home assistant

slate slate Oct 31, 2023, 3:25 PM

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I understand that this is not how HA works.
When state changes, that change is recorded to the database, fine.

But at some point you want to get the state of an entity at a particular point in time, be it now or a day ago, how do you get that data?

The answer can't be just "get it from the database", because there obviously can't be a state in the database for every given time (or else you'd need a TARDIS).
You have something like:
current_state = latest_state_before(now())
state_at(time) = latest_state_before(time)

ruby thorn Oct 31, 2023, 3:27 PM

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I mean that's just part of the db query at that point I suppose

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 3:30 PM

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slate slate I understand that this is not how HA works. When state changes, that change is r...

Yes, you get it from the database

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Every state change goes there

astral vault Oct 31, 2023, 3:31 PM

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Correct, you get it using the SQL sensor

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no, it's not easy.

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and yes, the answer is 100% get it from the database

cosmic thunder Oct 31, 2023, 3:31 PM

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That's how HA gets it for any card, history tab, etc

astral vault Oct 31, 2023, 3:31 PM

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yep

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So, you get it from the database using the SQL sensor, which requires you to create a database query

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luckily, the documentation for SQL sensors cover some of the queries

mortal gorgeBOT Oct 31, 2023, 3:33 PM

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SQL

Instructions how to integrate SQL sensors into Home Assistant.

Quality scale

No score

IoT Class

Local Polling

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integration

Documentation

Source

Issues