community-discussion

[lofty heron]

I like being in lessons just in case there's a question that the holder might be unsure about 🤔

[gaunt bridge]

And the hijacking lessons part i agree with. Level A lesson means no lv B or C or especially natives should be there, except if theyre the session holders.
@hot pecan This is definitely not true. Everyone is always welcome in all lessons.

[lofty heron]

Or to participate if I'm allowed to, like the reading stuff

[chrome valley]

And natives definitely are useful :)

It's just about being mindful what's your goal there

[gaunt bridge]

And yes, it is the host's job to keep things on track.

[hot pecan]

@hot pecan This is definitely not true. Everyone is always welcome in all lessons.
@gaunt bridge i meant in a way that they ask very advanced questions and stuff

😉

[gaunt bridge]

@hot pecan That's irrelevant to a person's level though. And that's a choice of the host.

A level A person could ask a level C question, for example.

So it has nothing to do with the person's level.

[hot pecan]

Ok

[gaunt bridge]

It's about whether the question is on-topic or not, which is completely up to the host only.

[hot pecan]

Are there defined hosts btw or can anyone qualified ask for the session holder role and hold a lesson?

Gtg ping on answerpls

[lofty heron]

#282831147942281216 and the bot command >ex sessions could answer that for you @hot pecan

[gaunt bridge]

Anyone can ask but it's up to the mods to decide if they want to give someone the role. Usually we prefer that the person has attended several lessons already and that someone with experience, either a mod or a trusted sessions holder, can attend the session with them to make sure everything goes well.

We don't hand out the Session Holder role to anyone since it includes permissions for VC muting and so on.

[chrome valley]

I know it's hard to be more assertive in things that involves managing other people
It's just that hosts should be reminded that they are the bosses, and our 'duty' is to be respectful towards them
And that it's perfectly fine to nudge someone onto the right track

[hot pecan]

K thanks

[rotund ermine]

<@&305455824174710787> advertisement in DM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/437003021688373259/758123563638194186/unknown.png
@dusty oriole (754288937954050050)

[gaunt bridge]

@rotund ermine Thanks. We know about it already though. (see #general and #general-2 )

[rotund ermine]

aight, sorry then ^^

[gaunt bridge]

No, it's appreciated. Just letting you know.

[rotund ermine]

okay

[balmy steppe]

Well it's a useful server for German immersion

Even if it's spam

[fathom vector]

Also whenever you get unsolicited DMs, we highly encourage you to report it directly to Discord at https://dis.gd/request. Random DM advertising is something they generally care about and multiple reports are known to have led to accounts being disabled before. So the best way to deal with spammers is to take a minute to report them. Unfortunately we can't do it for you since it requires you to link to the message in your report.

[gaunt bridge]

@balmy steppe I disagree. I've been there before and it was kinda trash.

[balmy steppe]

I mean it can be very hyper with a lot of nonsense

It looks like it greatly died down. I haven't visited forever though

It's a better source for listening than maybe text chat or was.

[proper walrus]

German immersion when I was there looking at the chat, they were just spamming "I want sex" and insulting each other

[balmy steppe]

That was the golden era of Jugend Treff

[crystal crypt]

Ich denke, hier solltest du die Bannersachen einreichen. Minen wirklich schlimm es tut mir leid

Uh <@&305455824174710787> I think I’m supposed to tag someone with that roll ._.

[pseudo sleet]

<@&305455824174710787> This is my submission to the banner contest

[fathom vector]

Hmmm, 36 minutes after the deadline but we'll accept it due to the high quality and effort.

[pseudo sleet]

Thanks mate

[balmy steppe]

Nice werk snake

It looks like a huge learning battery

[pseudo sleet]

Thank you Trax. Yes, I hope it shall energize this community.

[midnight dune]

Well done snook

[dense minnow]

just wanted to add that the design i submitted is also just a transparent banner that can be put over any image and of course can include the swiss flag

[signal idol]

ah yes, inverse denmark

[dense minnow]

If that looks too denmark for you of course it can be changed

would look like this

[signal idol]

what if instead of sth overly fancy we just did sth like this but like, with good proportions and not just a mockup made in ten seconds in paint

note that I arranged the countries in geographical order

[fathom vector]

We'd have to deal with Berzi complaining about the colors not matching until the day we die.

Oh and also the banner isn't as wide as that so we'd either have to cut off a fair bit of Germany (which I'm not entirely against ) or we'd have to deal with you complaining about the plus being cut off until the day we die.

(Also a rough sketch without measuring anything apart from the correct banner dimensions and I tried out a different way of slicing it.)

[signal idol]

I figured the way of slicing I tried reflected the geography better :P

and yea it wasn’t meant as a submission, just a vague suggestion cause I see a lot of things like gradients and fancy images and what not

and I just don’t think those look good

[balmy steppe]

Why don't we make Switzerland a full minus so maintain the idea of a battery

Also a few bees while you're at it wouldn't hurt

[dense minnow]

i think it is beautiful and agood suggestion and instead of cutting it off to fit the proportions jsut add in some empty space at the bottom

[signal idol]

please do not edit my mockup above as a suggestion, it was made in 5 minutes in paint and I paid no attention at equal proportions, size…

the lines are also not slanted equally

if you like the idea, I can put in effort and make it proper (or someone else can, I don’t care)

[grave knot]

please don't edit unless you want to
You contradict yourself.

[signal idol]

no I mean the mockup isn’t suited as a template to edit

since it’s a mess

just fixing the proportions a bit won’t create anything good

I’ll make a few variants later, I don’t have my mouse with me atm so it’s a bit annoying to work

I have a few ideas I wanna play around with

(regarding things like angles, positioning, color scheme, possible incorporations of FL, LU and BE)

I have my doubts that last thing will work in any sensible way but I have one idea I do wanna test

[grave knot]

Oh, so you mean people should copy the design instead of downloading your post?

That is, take the idea and not your "draft"?

[signal idol]

yea

[balmy steppe]

My verdict is that it's better to have little flags of each country than to span it

[proud egret]

here is my handdrawn entry for the banner

[static dove]

nicely drawn but not accurate at all, syro would never help anyone

[proud egret]

thanks but i disagree syro once told me to go away and i found it very helpful

can i also recommend we redo the roles to all be grayscale for maximum recognisability

[balmy steppe]

Actually Callum that is the submission

It's lovely as it is

Better if you didn't tell the other countries that they don't matter

Well... It's better that you didn't now that I think of it

[glad fjord]

Yeah I’m being a little slow, but here’s the sketch idea

We have the barn swallow, national bird of Austria and a golden eagle in the bg (Germany), we’ve got corn flowers and Knapweed (Germany) and edelweiß (Switzerland + Austria)

Would some one be able to test the composition as a server banner, I think the mountains are a little too tall and might interfere with the readability of the server title

<@&305455824174710787> sorry for the ping, I might need more time to finish this, I’m a little slow at arting sometimes

[gaunt bridge]

Sure, no problem. Let me see if I can try it.

@glad fjord

I put it up there so you can see how it looks.

[glad fjord]

Hmm everything needs to go down quite a bit

Try this one

@gaunt bridge

Thanks

[gaunt bridge]

Np.

[glad fjord]

Okay mountains down a smidge more

I think this is the sweet spot

@gaunt bridge last one I think

[gaunt bridge]

Okay, done.

[glad fjord]

Hmm what do you think

More down?

[gaunt bridge]

Nuh, I think it's fine.

[glad fjord]

Nice

Thanks base 😊

[gaunt bridge]

No problem. Looks awesome so far.

[glad fjord]

I need to do some uni now tho ;-; this drawing get done sometime in the next few weeks tho get keen

Two probs tops, hmm probably not even that long, we’ll see

[gaunt bridge]

No problem. Don't worry if you don't get it 100% finished or something. We have no problem with letting people improve their designs if there's a few things they need to finish by the time we choose one.

If that makes sense.

[glad fjord]

Almost done just gotta draw the birds now

[signal idol]

I love the idea, though now it looks like the mountains in the background are somehow lower than the heath we’re standing on

like it looks to me like we’re looking down on the mountains

[glad fjord]

I pushed the mountains down low to make space for the server title, but ill see what i can do to fix it

Yeah i can push the field down a bit

Should balance it out a bit

[glad fjord]

Hmm discord really kills colour, ill put it in a google drive

I have stuff I on different layers so I’m open to compositional changes, and if the light is strange I’m happy to go through and try to fix it up

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WoJxewRAat6afO3oqtbq3GI1yhKrENbI

I put the images in there, there’s a jpg and a png

[fathom vector]

Discord should change color since they don't compress the files afaik. But png is generally better since it's not a very lossy compression friendly format like jpg.

[glad fjord]

Hmm it looks different but either way, the files are in the drive so no issues

Maybe it’s the grey behind it instead of black or white cause eyes get tricked easily

Also I checked the colours are slightly different, only slightly less saturated

[latent solar]

wow, sehr shön

[signal idol]

wow that does look great

[midnight dune]

blu is amazing

remember when you said it would take you a long time

[glad fjord]

haha ich hatte diese Woche mehr Zeit als ich vorher dachte

aber ich denke ich werde es einbisschen bearbeiten, bin noch nicht mit den Farben ganz glücklich

[chrome valley]

@glad fjord this is stunning 😍

[grave knot]

Bluhu is stunning and so is her art.

[static dove]

holy shit thats amazing blu

[wet locust]

Bluwu you are amazing honestly

[cosmic wigeon]

Bluhu is so cool

[glad fjord]

Thanks guys

[pure kiln]

Discord should change color since they don't compress the files afaik. But png is generally better since it's not a very lossy compression friendly format like jpg.
@fathom vector "Lossy compression" and "friendly" in the same sentence? SACRILEGIOUS!!!

[gaunt bridge]

Hi everyone. Someone mentioned the idea of a book club, so I thought I'd just make a quick post so anyone interested can express their interest. React to this post with 📚 if you'd be interested in participating in a book club and 🎤 if you would potentially be interested in hosting one. Multiple people can host groups and take turns and so on, so it's fine if several people say they want to host them or if you would only want to do it once. React to both if you're interested in both.

<@&526087868079144961> <@&581851964007251968> In case anyone from those groups is interested.

[stone geyser]

Would really be cool if there is a book for each level. 🙂

[gaunt bridge]

I'm not sure how viable that is, since books are usually B2+

Most things below that level are things specifically written for learners, and it could be hard for people to get a hold of the books required.

But if someone has some ideas for it, feel free to share.

[signal idol]

I feel like most literature aimed at children & teenagers (e.g. YA fantasy) should be accessible to B1 learners cause the language doesn’t usually tend to be very poetic or anything but more direct. but yea books appropriate for A level are hard to find

[gaunt bridge]

That's possible, but my concern with B1 or below is that, even though reading is possible, they might have a hard time getting through enough of the book before the session to join the discussion.

But obviously anyone who has read the book would be welcome, even if it wasn't recently.

Maybe if we do lower level ones, they can just be planned really well ahead of time to give people time to get through the text.

[lofty heron]

Are there already any details about that @gaunt bridge ? Or is it currently just to check if interest is there.

[gaunt bridge]

@lofty heron Some people mentioned it in #resources so I just wanted to get an idea if people are interested in that.

And it seems they are.

But I don't have time to host anything like that myself now so whoever decides to host it first can deal with the details.

[lofty heron]

lol thought y'all have a vague idea about how it would work already x)

[gaunt bridge]

I mean, sure, I assume it's meant to be a normal book club:

• host chooses a book
• hosts announces the book and how much people should read before x date (or the whole book, depending on how they want to do it)
• everyone meets and discusses the book and the host runs the discussion

[lofty heron]

Oh I thought it's only publicly available books but if the host chooses anyway that solves that :^)

[gaunt bridge]

Everyone would be responsible for finding a copy of the book on their own, unless it's something the host can legally provide.

That's why the thing with beginner books is an issue. A normal novel you could just borrow from a library or something (or whatever online versions of that there are), but not sure if that's very reasonable for learner-specific materials.

[frigid laurel]

That's possible, but my concern with B1 or below is that, even though reading is possible, they might have a hard time getting through enough of the book before the session to join the discussion.
@gaunt bridge I'm not sure if this is true per se. I've been working through several books in my first weeks of studying. Reading is a great way to pick up new words and grammar, even when it's stuff like Emil und die Detektive

Which would be a great beginner book to read

[gaunt bridge]

@frigid laurel It may not be true for everyone, but you need enough people to be able to do it to run a session. If it's just you, it's not going to be much of a club.

It's just worth keeping in mind when deciding how to run the session and what book to choose and what pace to read at and so on.

[frigid laurel]

Sure, that's another concern, but looking at the number of reactions so far I don't think finding people to join in will be a big concern.

[gaunt bridge]

I meant if you do a B1 or lower session specifically.

[frigid laurel]

I guess I could pick some relatively easy book like the ones I've been reading and see who wants to join in

[gaunt bridge]

Sure, feel free to pick anything you think other people will enjoy. It never hurts to try it out and see what happens.

[hollow pollen]

About the book club, if there is people who interested in german literature (Hesse, Kafka, Mann, Zweig, Brecht, Dürrenmatt etc.) Id love to join and read together. B2 and higher would be perfect for me so we can also discuss about the literature era / writing style / meaning of text etc

[twin nymph]

Would be wonderful to tackle these auctors, i^m sure that there must be a Gemanistik student out there, willing to join us. Just remember to include Max Frisch as well !, reading his Homo Faber right now, wonderful book

[hollow pollen]

Would be wonderful to tackle these auctors, i^m sure that there must be a Gemanistik student out there, willing to join us. Just remember to include Max Frisch as well !, reading his Homo Faber right now, wonderful book
@twin nymph I am actually a Germanistik MA student and wrote a semester ago gender spesific analyse about Homo Faber and Max Frisch! If you want to read after the book feel free to ask I would like to hear your opinion 🙂

[twin nymph]

🤯

you must be kidding with me, that^s awesome !

[proven imp]

a word of the day channel, like one german word and all its definition

[gaunt bridge]

@proven imp #thing-of-the-day

[frigid laurel]

I wish I was a few months further along in my studies, a literature club sounds fun

[dusty oriole]

I wish I was a few months further along in my studies, a literature club sounds fun
@frigid laurel

Me too. I love german lit I just don't know that much german yet 😂

I've been reading Hölderlin from a bilingüal book

[proven imp]

#thing-of-the-day
@gaunt bridge i mean in english, its hard for me to understand all german

[gaunt bridge]

#thing-of-the-day has posts in English and German. It depends on what the person who posts wants to write.

If you want to write a word of the day there, you're welcome to write the meanings in English.

[chrome valley]

I got several times in last few days that there's new message here, but latest message that I see is from 24 Oct, is this right?

[gaunt bridge]

Yes.

[chrome valley]

Hm, thanks. Any thoughts why discord then marks this channel like there's new unread messages then?
Maybe something came but was deleted?

[gaunt bridge]

Yes, someone posted something today and deleted it.

[chrome valley]

Ok, then everything is working fine :) thanks for clearing that up for me

[gaunt bridge]

No problem.

Now to delete this whole discussion to annoy the next person. 😌

[chrome shadow]

heyo lovely memes, some users have reported that the halloween emojis (or emojis in channel names in general) are too distracting and make it difficult to read the channel names
of course it's only meant to be a temporary thing, but it shouldn't stand in the way of learning and enjoying the server, so we'd be happy to hear some more opinions on it

[glad fjord]

I second they are hard to read, but it doesnt bother me cause its just for halloween

[grave knot]

^

[glad fjord]

Spoopy vibes

[lofty heron]

most of the channel emojis for me are just squares anyway :^)

[signal idol]

I’ve always disliked them but since it’s just a few days it’s fine

just please don’t do christmas emoji for all of december

[midnight dune]

christmas on the week of christmas?

also maybe just put the emojis at the end as a compromise?

since when reading most of us do go left->right

[ancient light]

I mostly have all channel positions memorized, so it's not too distracting for me

[glad fjord]

April fools prank jumble all the channels

[humble sparrow]

apri fools prank ban blu for suggesting that

[glad fjord]

[chrome valley]

Maybe put emojis in categories instead of channel names, if possible? Then it can be tons of them

Plus general chat channels, those seems to be fine to mess around with

I like ghosts, but why pumpkin, bat and web only once, they're cute as well :) too many candles :p

In short I think they're cute, just a bit on too many places, but I have a feeling in categories there could be even more than two and wouldn't disturb

[chrome shadow]

I like ghosts, but why pumpkin, bat and web only once, they're cute as well :) too many candles :p
which emoji goes where gets randomly selected by the bot, sometimes it's unlucky and you end up with way more candles than bats :D

[chrome valley]

Ahso, bot... And here I thought how someone really didn't have anything else to do that day 😂

[fathom vector]

April fools prank jumble all the channels
We actually did one year. But people remembered the order of course, so we kept randomly changing the names and reshuffling. It lasted a few hours and definitely wasn't among our most popular ideas.

[midnight dune]

@glad fjord I think iy happened already

Nbm didn't see arrems antwort

I still think emoji at the end of channel names is better

[balmy steppe]

🕯️ 🕯️ 🍬 🍬

Trying to understand why candles have extra space on the right

I mean it makes sense for safety reasons

[main pecan]

the new banner is so cute

[rare drift]

I like the new banner, not a fan of the emojis.

[red pewter]

here’s an emoji suggestion

[red pewter]

also this one

[grave jungle]

The classic reddit award

[sonic bear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/405337568901726209.png?v=1

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/405337568155009024.png?v=1

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/403295289688981534.png?v=1

[wintry nova]

when will there be lessons?

[glad fjord]

@wintry nova when someone on the server has time to plan one, lessons are run by Volunteers

[sonic bear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/402867832175460363.png?v=1

[balmy steppe]

I volunteer carrots

[sonic bear]

The four last emojis I sent btw are emote suggestions for the server

[elder mist]

Hello everyone.
I wanted to announce that I'm planning on hosting a learning session for advanced speakers. At first, I would do one where I prepare a text and we go through it together, you can ask me about questions and then I ask you some things about it afterwards. It would do it this Sunday some time in the afternoon, so people in the US can join at a reasonable time. Though I wanted to ask any moderator or session holder to sit in on the lesson and have an eye over my organisation since I'm an inexperienced host. I'd be happy to hear from one of you. Have a nice day!

[glad fjord]

depending on the time you pick id be keen to join in

im in australia tho so my timezone doesnt match up very nicely, but who knows i might be awake

[lofty heron]

sounds neat, maybe you can share an exact UTC time (if you have one in mind) ^.^

[shut sky]

Sounds great! Do you have an estimated time? I'm from Argentina, so my time is around the same as the US East Coast.

[elder mist]

Somewhere around 7pm UTC

Would you like to have the session held in German or English?

[lofty heron]

@elder mist That should probably depend on what target audience you have in mind. In my experience, if you target B and above, people appreciated the lesson in German over English

[elder mist]

I've prepared a little harder texts

But B and above is targeted, yes

Would you have time to attend?

[lofty heron]

There's a good chance I'll have time on Sunday 🤔

[shut sky]

I would prefer it in German. And yes, I can attend.

[elder mist]

I'd be super happy to welcome both of you

[fathom vector]

@elder mist have you attended any lessons that others have hosted?

[elder mist]

@fathom vector No, but I talked to Basementality and they said it is no problem as long as another session holder or moderator is with me

[turbid python]

Hello everyone.
I wanted to announce that I'm planning on hosting a learning session for advanced speakers. At first, I would do one where I prepare a text and we go through it together, you can ask me about questions and then I ask you some things about it afterwards. It would do it this Sunday some time in the afternoon, so people in the US can join at a reasonable time. Though I wanted to ask any moderator or session holder to sit in on the lesson and have an eye over my organisation since I'm an inexperienced host. I'd be happy to hear from one of you. Have a nice day!
@elder mist It´ll be a great pleasure for me to attend your class^^

[elder mist]

@turbid python Nice to hear! :)

[fathom vector]

Yeah, it's not, I was just wondering.

[red pewter]

emoji suggestion

[grave knot]

➕

Reacting with that shows how many agree.

[red pewter]

@grave knot I like the +1 emoji better because you can actually see it in dark mode

[humble sparrow]

a transparent background image would be nice

[candid yoke]

How can unmute me

Please some one unmute me

Its 3 years

[humble sparrow]

you'll need to get in contact with a moderator about that @candid yoke

[balmy steppe]

How about ability to pin tasks to practice?

#beginner-german

[humble sparrow]

unfortunately that is linked with the ability to delete / moderate other peoples messages in discord permissions
that additionally means that anyone who has it would need to have 2fa enabled on discord

[gaunt bridge]

@balmy steppe You're always welcome to ask if you need something pinned.

[balmy steppe]

Okay

Thanks

[lofty heron]

@elder mist hey just wanted to know if you still have something planned for today before I start doing random stuff again and forget to check Discord 😅

[elder mist]

I'm totally outplanned right now

Sorry for the inconvienience :/

[lofty heron]

kk just let us know when you have a set date and time ^.^

[wintry nova]

@elder mist It´ll be a great pleasure for me to attend your class^^
@turbid python wenn?

[grave knot]

*Wann.

[dusty oriole]

On the official Discordpartner server you can already use the "answer" function and on some smaller other servers as well. I wanted to ask when this function will be available on this server. @fathom vector

[fathom vector]

This feature is slowly being rolled out. Everyone will have it by the end of the week, but we don't know when exactly we'll get it. It's not something that Discord tells us. It'll just happen sooner or later. Generally, smaller servers get new features before bigger servers.

Also what exactly do you mean by the "official Discordpartner server"? 🤔
The server for partners doesn't have it yet.

[solar hedge]

what does this function do?

[dusty oriole]

Also what exactly do you mean by the "official Discordpartner server"? 🤔
The server for partners doesn't have it yet.
@fathom vector Yes, at least the team uses it there more often

[fathom vector]

@solar hedge

[solar hedge]

oOoOoOo fancy

[fathom vector]

Ah. Yeah, Discord staff gets access to new features as soon as they're available to flex on us. 😌

[lofty heron]

huh looks like a reworked quote thingerino

[dusty oriole]

Well, the partner server is generally weird.

[chrome shadow]

That's because it is exactly that catto

[lofty heron]

lol

[dusty oriole]

This feature is slowly being rolled out. Everyone will have it by the end of the week, but we don't know when exactly we'll get it. It's not something that Discord tells us. It'll just happen sooner or later. Generally, smaller servers get new features before bigger servers.
@fathom vector I am looking forward to it 🙂

https://i.imgur.com/F8AjcWR.png

@fathom vector you use the light version of Discord? You lost all the respect I had for you...

[hot pecan]

Lmao

[fathom vector]

Tja. That's alright.

[static dove]

what a loss

[fathom vector]

Never.

[lofty heron]

does it ping the person you reply to?

[fathom vector]

Yes

[fathom vector]

Or no. It's an option. :^)

[lofty heron]

I see, thanks!

[wintry nova]

wann wird es eine lektion geben?

[nimble pebble]

Leider stehen momentan keine Lessons an. Du kannst das übrigens selbst checken, indem du >sessions in #botchannel tippst. Und wenn du informiert werden willst, wenn es mal eine gibt, solltest du dir vom Bot die Grammar- oder Advanced Grammar-Rolle zuweisen lassen

[grave knot]

@lofty heron You can also tap the message that was replied to to jump there and see the context it was written in.

[gritty sage]

Oh! Nicht schlecht, das hab ich noch gar nicht bemerkt. Danke.

[vagrant python]

@red pewter

und:

[red pewter]

Vielen Dank

[humble sparrow]

@fathom vector i absolutely suck at paint but do you like my emoji

[fathom vector]

pppp paint?

[humble sparrow]

well paint.net

[wet locust]

PASTA PASTA

[humble sparrow]

looks less good on dark theme because magic want on paint.net does not make for smooth edges

@fathom vector draft 2

ree there's a circle there

lemme delete that

@fathom vector draft 3

[grave knot]

I love it.

[fathom vector]

I approve. 😌

[humble sparrow]

that's my emoji suggestion

[static dove]

floosh spaget when

[vagrant python]

jetzt

[balmy steppe]

So cute

[grave knot]

Like you.

[neon vapor]

I'm wondering if any session holder could do some lesson on particles, despite looking into it and trying to understand it they are still quite confusing when to use them and I feel like a good few have problems with particles

[gaunt bridge]

You mean modal particles, right?

[neon vapor]

Yes, sorry

[gaunt bridge]

Hmm, it would be a cool lesson topic. I think it's really hard to teach though. But maybe someone on the server will be willing to teach it.

[neon vapor]

That's understandable yes, they appear so often and I haven't wrapped my head most of em

[fathom vector]

Have you tried reading about them in Hammer's German Grammar? They give an explanation of when each one is used as well as example sentences.

[patent ore]

Gibt es noch Lese-sessions hier auf Discord?

[glad fjord]

Jup, eher quasi. Sessions finden statt ,nur wenn jemand ein bisschen Zeit dafür hat und eine veranstaltet

[neon vapor]

I remember looking at it a while ago I remember it being very in-depth with all grammar, I'll give it a look! Thank you

I haven't looked at modal particles in it

[bronze otter]

Hallo I have been looking for book recommendations for beginners

[glad fjord]

I definitely dont recomend die Verwandlung as a beginners book.

In the lessons channel we have three books linked/posted:
There’s Harry Potter und der Stein der Weisen
Tintenherz
and Momo.

Tintenherz is the most beginner friendly here, harry potter although simple in essence contain a lot of literacy words such as schnattern (sound geese make, means to chat and blabber) and momo is a beautiful story, but best enjoyed late B1 and up

Have fun with reading! @bronze otter

@tough sapphire i honestly love Momo! Theres a pdf pinned in lessons too.

I read a lovely Schachgeschichte from Stephan Zweig, it was quite short about 30 pages and very beautifully written, i have a copy somewhere if you were interested.

i borrowed a book from my local library called Alles kein Zufall von Elke Heidenreich, its a collection of very short yet emotionally poignant (whether that be Humour or sadness) stories. Im about halfway through big reccomend

As for fantasy i heard that Quendell was quite good, dont have copy myself tho

My biggest recomendation for late intermediate and up would be to just take a trip to your local Library and look at their german collection, i had to request a selection for mine from my state library, but im very happy with the books that came through, so it would be worth a try heading there

Geschickt wurde dennoch vorwiegend Krimis und Liebesromanen, was nicht so mein Ding sind, aber trotz denen war die Auswahl richtig schön und ich hatte mir 3 neue Bücher angeschafft.

Die ich zur Zeit genieße 📖 ♥️

[jovial zealot]

@dusty oriole, your message has been redirected here from #lessons:

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Redirected by JX

Hello, can we run lesson sessions using this resource?

https://learngerman.dw.com/en/overview

Dec 20, 2020, 12:38 PM

[gaunt bridge]

@dusty oriole Do you mean that you want to run them? Or you want someone else to run them?

[dusty oriole]

I prefer if there's someone who has more experience in German and would like to do that because I'm still beginner.

If the host's responsibility is just organizing/facilitating the session, then I think I can do that, the idea is that I would like to learn in a group and when I tried sharing my screen in the Group Study VC, I couldn't.

[dusty oriole]

Comics.

Like Tintin, Asterix and such.

[tired scarab]

difference between Questions and Questions 2??

[chrome shadow]

purpose #questions-2

[jovial zealot]

Information about questions-2

questions-2

Have a question about German and #questions is too busy? Ask it here! You can also go to #botchannel and type >explain all to see our list of FAQs.

[tired scarab]

thanks

[arctic wagon]

wir suchen dich

[glad fjord]

Hello everyone, how would people feel about organising some holiday sessions.
I was thinking something along the lines of weekly readings sessions for a couple of weeks and a small series of lessons for grammar topics in the A1, B1 and maybe B2-C1 levels.

I however cant run all of that myself and will need some Volunteers to hold some of the sessions.

What are your thoughts?

Also suggestions for topics that you guys would like covered would be amazing too.

Ive already received a request for wo- and da- compounds and i was thinking of holding one on relative clauses. Let me know what you think

[static wagon]

raises hand i was actually planning on finally setting up a reading thing

[fathom vector]

.>remind 2w Ban dööds if no reading thing.

[gaunt bridge]

I would be happy to do some. Feel free to give me a topic/level if you have one that no one else wants to do.

[dusty oriole]

When you say "hold sessions", do you mean teaching German? 🙂

[gaunt bridge]

Yes.

[dusty oriole]

Oh okay. I'm not advanced. However, if you need help teaching A0/A1 beginners with basics through English or French, I'll gladly help. 🙂

I teach German as a foreign language here in Belgium but only from A0 to A2. 🙂 (flashcards, games, vocabulary, light grammar)

[glad fjord]

@static wagon what will you be reading?

@gaunt bridge your lessons in prepositions seemed very much appreciated when you ran them, i think those would be good

[static wagon]

i was thinking max und moritz cuz it seems simple enough to read

[glad fjord]

Nice! I havent read that one

[static wagon]

and is also public domain!

[glad fjord]

Even better

[static wagon]

if i did host reading should i do it on the 28th?

[glad fjord]

Could you run it either at the European American crossover time, or at a comfortable american time

Yup that sounds like a good date, feel free to run something every week for a little while too

Im thinking i might pick up Momo again, ill probably pick an early morning European time

(Well if 9-10 can be considered early lol)

[static wagon]

i was thinking 2pm MST/ 10pm germany

[lofty heron]

do I see a return of Momo? 😻

[static wagon]

catto!

[glad fjord]

Momo 😍

Hi catto

[static wagon]

i should set up the session thing then, i guess

i dont think i have the attention span to get though all of max und moritz in one sitting so i could make that weekly until we finish

[gaunt bridge]

@glad fjord Okay, sounds good.

[glad fjord]

Let me make a calendar real quick

[gaunt bridge]

I would also like to do some reading sessions. But not sure what yet. 😌

[glad fjord]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dYGYrZW5AJuOXWSG4i0br75BqcwyExCqf-R62s2zpHM/edit?usp=sharing heres a doc to put all your times and activities in

Request to pin

[static wagon]

how am i supposed to write descriptions? im still not really sure on how to do that yet

[glad fjord]

you can look at old ones and pick and choose the information that corresponds to what your need

session info 22

[jovial zealot]

4 months, 1 week and 18 hours ago - (Grammar) held by Bulli

Session Description

Beginner German: Lesson 1 - A session aimed at complete beginners. In this session, we will discuss pronouns, grammatical gender and basic sentence structure

Posted 4 months, 1 week and 3 days ago

Hello, lovely people. There will be a series of beginner grammar lessons presumably every Saturday, depending on demand and availability of session holders, beginning on the 15th of August at 8:00 UTC. If any questions arise, feel free to ask in #community-discussion

These lessons will be a repeat of the Beginner Lessons held by @gaunt bridge but simply held at a different time. The lesson content can be found here: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/1/folders/14MPdMqPTH9XVocvy__Hw7cMz5jSXZux-

Posted 4 months, 1 week and 18 hours ago

Hello people! Beginner German: Lesson 1 will start in around 25min in Lessons vc. We will be learning about pronouns, grammatical gender of a noun and some conjugation. Have a listen if you feel like it! :3

Type `>session list` to see a list of all sessions.

[glad fjord]

ah its one of bases but run by bulli lol

[static wagon]

should i share the desc i think would work? or just post cuz its prolly fine

[fathom vector]

It probably is but if you want some feedback feel free to ask for it.

[red pewter]

thank you so much for creating #getting-started

just thank u

[gaunt bridge]

No problem. Thanks for the thanks. 😄

[dark barn]

hello! since the reading for "max und moritz" is going to be weekly, how about we alternate between having the US friendly timezone (9 pm UTC) and one for people who live further way in like asia for example, since 9 pm UTC is mostly past midnight over there

[static wagon]

i picked then cuz thats when i know ill be awake

do you mean like two separate readings for different timezones?

cuz honestly i picked the time based on when me and bulli were gonna be awake, so he could help out lol

[dark barn]

yeah separate would be good too! we could do that if possible

[static wagon]

well, if someone else wants to host it that would be cool. i just cant. i dont think i have enough spoons rn

[gaunt bridge]

Feel free to post whatever part you get up to in each session, then someone can do a session with the same material if they feel like it I guess. 😄

[static wagon]

i can do that

what time in MST (UTC - 7) would be a reasonable one for both time zones?

if i happen to have enough energy i can at least try. but i dont think i have it rn

[lofty heron]

Take my battery @static wagon 😄

[static wagon]

sorry the ones i had exploded so now the battery compartment is corroded :/

[dark barn]

thats understandable! dont pressure yourself pls

i can host, though ive never done that before so it'd be great if i could get some insight on it from anyone who has hosted

[chrome valley]

This renewed resources file is awesome! You put hard work in it, and result is great! Thanks all who contributed!

Also, maybe you want to put direct link for it in that new #🤶getting-started🎁 channel?

[vagrant python]

@chrome valley danke für den Vorschlag, wir haben den Link hinzugefügt

[glad fjord]

Hey guys im planning a lesson on Wo- and da- compounds: which times work best for you guys?:
1: 10 UTC
2: 11 UTC
3: 21 UTC
4: 22 UTC

The date will be the 3rd of Jan

[glad fjord]

Okay final time and date: jan 2nd 21 UTC

Sorry i realised i had class at that time on the 3rd so i moved it a day earlier

[gaunt bridge]

@glad fjord Sorry I haven't scheduled mine yet btw. I'm just having some trouble with my sleep schedule and I don't want to set a time before knowing if I'll be able to do it. 🤗

[glad fjord]

No worries, just when do it when you feel like doing it

I was thinking, having stuff run throughout january would be good, still plenty of time to plan

[red pewter]

emoji suggestion

[grave knot]

It only goes to ten?

[red pewter]

do you have a louder one Casca? 👀

[grave knot]

https://tenor.com/view/spinal-tap-numbers-go-to11-gif-4660832

[signal idol]

I just wanna mention again how gorgeous our server banner is, I'm stunned every time I see it still

[glad fjord]

Thank you ßascha! Im glad you guys like it 💖💖

[nimble pebble]

@open berry ?

[terse nest]

ich denke, die neue „VC Pending“ Rolle ist eine gute Idee

[nimble pebble]

Schön, dass sie dir gefällt, Khrysanthos :)

[dusty oriole]

@gaunt bridge ; Hi. About the session you've issued, UTC, is it like one hour less than in Germany. Is it 1h32 in UTC?

[gaunt bridge]

Germany is UTC +1

[dusty oriole]

Ok, I've got the same time as Germany so it means 1 hour sooner for me. Thanks a lot 🙂

[gaunt bridge]

Np.

[glad fjord]

@gaunt bridge how were you going to structure the resolutions talk?

[gaunt bridge]

Not totally sure yet. I have to write it out still.

@glad fjord Did you have anything specific you wanted to know about it?

[glad fjord]

I was just wondering about what ideas you had. If you were going to do a q and a sessions or like a short lecture from someone then a q and a

[gaunt bridge]

Ohh, I see. Yeah, it will be like a lecture + probably some activities and q&a.

Activities like everyone trying out setting a goal / schedule for themselves (if they're interested).

[glad fjord]

Okay nice!

[dusty oriole]

hey

how to get into voice channels

[fathom vector]

#getting-started

[balmy steppe]

That's been requested I think

It may not have been requested formerly. I can't find it in #suggestions

[dense pumice]

it might not be that much of a high priority task to code that since the current system works

though i agree that a reaction role system can be very nice, thats what i also usually prefer but i just use foreign bots on my servers

[grand wadi]

so i would like to stream my german classes (they are all online due to covid) to help others learn without having to pay for it

i can also share my slides and notes ❤️

i can also stream Babbel Lessons and do them as a group with others so that we all have something to gain out of it. sinc eim already paying i don tmind doing this.

i can also stream duo lingo and i can give out codes every 3 months for FREE 6 month subscriptions to Babbel for others.

Im just trying to help where i can

[lofty cove]

Something along the same lines, I could also do weekly beginner lessons using the themes from my German class as well. But I am a beginner myself and might need some help to answer people's questions

[gaunt bridge]

@grand wadi @lofty cove My recommendation is that you guys post here what times/days you're thinking of doing these, and see if anyone is willing to volunteer to co-host with you. Like one of the other sessions holders might be willing to sit in the session with you to help if you get stuck explaining things.

[chrome valley]

I think Becky doesn't hold but just attend classes she wants to stream here?

Also, she mentioned payment, and usually if you pay for some service, in the terms and conditions says if you're allowed sharing and of which type, or you need to ask for special permission

Also, I'd expect that even sharing the video of your teacher comes with a similar caveat - in short, if it isn't explicitly allowed - consider it forbidden and ask for written permission

[gaunt bridge]

@chrome valley I believe she told us (in DMs) that it was actually just slides, not a class itself, and that she had permission to share them.

[grand wadi]

I have permission to Share them, i asked my teacher, and she encouraged it. She calls it "peer review" and its helpful for everyone involved 😄

[nimble pebble]

Hmm. Nice teacher!

[vagrant hull]

This as new emote

[glad fjord]

@noble field wenn du mal etwas planen möchtest, kannst du es hier Diskutieren. Die Mods, Server Helferinnen/Helfer, andere Lesson Holders checken oft diesen Channel und würden gerne neue Lessons holder herzlich willkommen heißen.
Falls du aber die Mods direkt anpingen möchtest, schreib einfach mal @ Moderator (ohne das Leerzeichen dazwischen)

[dusty oriole]

new emoji (Currywurst)

[balmy steppe]

That's the wurst idea I've ever heard

||I've become Bro||

[sonic bear]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/698876924260515921.png?v=1

[subtle patio]

#announcements message hi i wanted to say this is a very pog announcement

[chrome shadow]

No u

[tiny quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/uno-reverse-playing-cards-right-spacestation-gg-spacestation-gaming-gif-14528283

[jaunty oracle]

[eager marlin]

This is admiralbahroos emotes, a streamer on a twitch. Not your guys’ property to use.

https://twitter.com/admiralbahroo?s=21

Bahroo (@AdmiralBahroo)

Tiny Emotional Panda Salesmen | http://twitch.tv/admiralbahroo | Business Inquiries -AdmBahroo@gmail

Tweets

17605

Followers

106948

Twitter

[vagrant hull]

Oh, I just found it online in other servers

A lot of servers have these pandas

[eager marlin]

Ik, it’s unfortunate. Basically everyone uses them now

Stealing art is super lame.

Wasn’t trying to attack you though, just putting it out there. I would like us to not use the emote cause it’s not our art.

One more source~

https://twitter.com/admiralbahroo/status/1131026084898713601?lang=en

Bahroo (@AdmiralBahroo)

My discord server now has 500 emote slots.

250 regular 250 animated.

If I cant remove all of the discord servers stealing my emotes then I will just corner the market and take over them all through sheer volume of emotes.

Evil Laugh

https://t.co/ydEo2de0GY

Likes

914

Twitter · May 22, 2019, 2:36 AM

stealing my emotes

🤙🏻

[fathom vector]

Yeah that's perfectly reasonable, thanks for letting us know.

[eager marlin]

No problem!

[nimble pebble]

Yeah, thanks. A pity, but we removed it

[dusty oriole]

Döner emoji (aka Kebab / Kebap / Drehspieß)
maybe someone else can find a better pic n upload it here

[fathom vector]

As a general tip, when suggesting emoji try to find something that's drawn or not too detailed. Pictures that have a lot going on in them will usually just look terrible when they're scaled down to emoji size.

[midnight dune]

oh wooo we got 16 boosts

[nimble pebble]

Yes, awesome

pat pat

Where do you have it from?

There should be a transparent version

although it's also not hard to make that one transparent

[grave knot]

True, though it being a screenshot takes away from its likely usually higher quality.

[nimble pebble]

Oh, it's a screenshot?

[grave knot]

The emoji isn't centered and the background is Discord's dark mode. Nom has an actual version, however.

[nimble pebble]

Ah, makes sense

[zinc fable]

New server emoji although I don't have discord nitro but I love seeing good vibes

[tiny quiver]

Suggest making this a server emoji

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-justin-timberlake-meh-gif-5436831

[grave knot]

You wouldn't be able to use it.

[tiny quiver]

why is that?

[nimble pebble]

Only people with nitro can use animated emotes

@tiny quiver

[tiny quiver]

oh well

[eager marlin]

I know you guys already have a pretty big amount of channels, but I think an #accomplishments channel would be sweet. People could go there to say stuff like "just passed my B2 certification!!" or "Studied 30 hours of German this week". I've seen it in discord studying communities and it can be very encouraging

[grave knot]

I like the idea.

[inland wind]

is this where we lobby for new emojis

[grave knot]

It's really cute. ^^

[inland wind]

wait i'm updating it

[jaunty oracle]

or alternatively

[chrome shadow]

@jaunty oracle sind das und die beiden anderen die du vorgestern gepostet hast vorschläge ? falls ja wäre es vielleicht gut das entsprechend zu kennzeichnen, sonst ist es schwierig zwischen reaktion und vorschlag zu unterscheiden

[jaunty oracle]

Jo, das sind alles Vorschläge

Habe gerade bemerkt dass wir schon eine weinende Katze als Emoji haben

[nimble pebble]

was added

[digital bay]

Das hat 3 Stunden genommen um zu machen, ich denke dass es ein perfekt emoji ist uwu. Pls add

[midnight dune]

POG

[nimble pebble]

here, a centered (thanks @magic wadi) and transparent version

[magic wadi]

bitte

[inland wind]

when a regular just won't cut it

[thorny iron]

Can we have a Nicos Weg one?

[digital bay]

I litterally love this emote

[fathom vector]

Today Bulli teaches us how to do a terrible job at removing a background.

[nimble pebble]

oh, that's not great xD

[cobalt yew]

well thanks now im hungry

[grave knot]

@nimble pebble

I fixed it for you.

[nimble pebble]

Oh that's better

But not quite as round as the thing I got originally

can you maybe do a better job than me at making this background transparent?

[grave knot]

@nimble pebble

[fathom vector]

Well the best way to remove a background is not removing the background. People said nom had the actual emoji so just get it from him / one of his messages.

[nimble pebble]

I asked nom and he said he doesn't have it :b

Actually I didn't that could fuck something up. That removing it could fuck something up. That's good to know

[fathom vector]

I remade it completely.

[nimble pebble]

Lol, that's sick!
Oki, that shall be @dusty oriole's suggestion if she's fine with that :P

[grave knot]

You mean you ||cut out the left hand, mirrored it, and moved them closer? :P||

[fathom vector]

Yes and it actually doesn't look terrible. You're welcome. 😎

[grave knot]

It looks great, that's for sure.

[zealous stump]

1. A user misbehaves in a general channel.
2. A mod tells the user to stop.
3. The user complains against it, leading to a debate on whether they should stop or not. The other users often join in, supporting the moderator or mocking the user.

I've been seeing this happen many times recently. The problem is, during this process the whole flow of the conversation gets ruined, and the channel gets heated too much before the user crosses the line and gets muted. How could we prevent this? Warn the user in DM? The user may not have enabled DMs. Create a channel for actions against infractions and ping the user there? The user may have turned notifications off. Is there any other method that comes into you guys' minds?

Perhaps we could make a use of ModMail (https://modmail.xyz/), a bot designed to provide a place where a user can talk to the mods individually. Regardless, I just wanted to address this issue and have a discussion with you people.

[grave knot]

Even if their notifications are off, it's possible to lock them out of every channel except #mod-discussion. This way they have no choice but to discuss it there before gaining access again.

[lofty heron]

^

[zealous stump]

Oh, that's a good idea

[grave knot]

I'm not sure if it would automatically force them into such a channel. It might?

[chrome shadow]

our old bot had a system like that in place for almost a year.. in that time it was used twice

a dedicated channel would theoretically work though

[inland wind]

ah, i got here late. i could remove backgrounds completely!

let me know if i can help next time

[nimble pebble]

I'll keep it in mind, ty :D

[inland wind]

i call this one the Brotbringer

[grave knot]

^^

[fathom vector]

Hello session holders (@glad fjord in particular). You no longer have to ping us to unlock Lessons when you're doing a session.

>session start will now unlock the channel if it is locked, and you can optionally specify a name too to rename your channel temporarily, e.g., >session start B2 Reading. When you're done, you can revert all the changes with >session end.

[lofty heron]

Thanks dear @fathom vector ❤️

[balmy steppe]

Is there are option to mute everyone when they enter? Pretty please

Or ugly please

[fathom vector]

We can't really do that. The only option would be server muting them, but then the host would have to unmute them for them to talk, and if they left before the lesson ended, they'd stay server muted. So the best option is still just nicely asking people to mute themselves.

[gaunt bridge]

@fathom vector I think you can just leave the server "ended" and then unmute people manually, right? The only thing is you can't rename the channel, but that's probably not a huge deal.

[fathom vector]

Hm I've never dealt with a session being started when the channel was locked so I'm unsure. But iirc BBT did it once and people had to rejoin to be able to talk?

[chrome shadow]

The way it's currently set up they do have to rejoin because channel permissions are not updated unless you rejoin

[gaunt bridge]

I'm pretty sure you can manually unmute individual people without them rejoining.

[chrome shadow]

mh it doesn't work the other way around for sure though 🤔

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah.

[balmy steppe]

I'm not sure how it was. But it happened once where someone left a channel so that when people joined they're automatically muted. Then you unmute them including yourself

I don't know how this all works on the discord side. I only see the after effect.

I mean before session starts it makes sense to leave it open: unmuted when joined. But once the session starts it's just derails the channel when someone joins and starts to talk not knowing, or they know and don't care, or they know but are trolling

It's only been really bothersome when doing the readings

[nimble pebble]

Btw guys, this emote suggestion by camie that was refined by Arrem is up for vote

And say hello to

[inland wind]

Yay!!

My first successfully lobbied emote

[subtle patio]

I really appreciate your attention to detail 😌

[kind sleet]

what happened to #pronunciation ? was there some kind of announcement about not using it that i missed?

[chrome shadow]

no, how come ? 🤔

[kind sleet]

because i don't have permissions to post in it:

[chrome shadow]

oh lmao

I've changed it back the bot had a hiccup during a raid and we had to manually adjust the permissions, we probably skipped #pronunciation for whatever reason

[kind sleet]

ah. lovely, thanks for fix

[eager marlin]

Could we get a limitless silent study room for people to focus on what their working on with others but not have any interruptions? Really really wanting something like that here as seen in other study servers.

[nimble pebble]

'limitless silent study'? Could you describe that a bit more? @eager marlin

[eager marlin]

So in study discord servers, they have study “rooms” that people sit in and work in silently while they “study with others”. Limitless meaning no limit on amount of people allowed in there.

If not limitless, a big room like 15 ppl.

Everyone is muted and working on their own assignments and goals, but it’s nice to have company and helps you focus when other people are working too.

[inland wind]

I get it. It's nice to study with someone even if you don't necessarily interact with them

[inland wind]

Did i miss something, or are some channels hidden in general discussion?

[gaunt bridge]

Which?

[inland wind]

Okay nevermind it was an error on my part, it's fixed now :9

[glad fjord]

@eager marlin you could potentially use #lessons for that

Its a locked channel when theres not a lesson running, so everyone is muted automatically when they join

[gaunt bridge]

@glad fjord I think it's not the best choice because the reason we lock Lessons is to avoid people joining there. Because people get confused about whether a lesson is on or not.

[glad fjord]

Fair enough

[vagrant python]

bitte hinzufügen danke

[deep arch]

@gleaming tiger

[gleaming tiger]

[round otter]

Wir haben und , aber keinen Döner? wieso?

[nimble pebble]

#community-discussion message
Wurd schon vorgeschlagen und kann ich gleich adden, weils recht beliebt zu sein scheint, wobei cooler wär, wenn (siehe Post darunter) es ne Zeichnung oder so wär, damit man nicht nichts erkennt, wenn es klein ist

so wie bei

[round otter]

Ich kann Strichmännchen zeichnen, mehr aber auch nicht

[nimble pebble]

Dann form einen Döner aus Strichmännchen

[round otter]

Könnte schwer werden

[glad fjord]

Ich könnte einen zeichnen, ich weiß aber nicht wie ein Döner aussieht lol

Also zeig mir mal ein Bild davon und ta-da dann wird er gezeichnet

[round otter]

@glad fjord das istn Döner

[glad fjord]

Okay 👌

[round otter]

Pog!

[nimble pebble]

Hmm, wär cool! :3

[dusty oriole]

Wir sollten @lofty heron einen Emote geben. wie wär's denn hiermit

[lofty heron]

Leider muss ich Sie informieren, dass wir nach §124 OWiG eine Ordnungswidrigkeit begehen, falls wir ein solches Symbol benutzen würden. 😦

[nimble pebble]

Warum weißt du das?

[lofty heron]

Weil es so da drinne steht Bulli :^) https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/owig_1968/__124.html

[nimble pebble]

Ja, aber du hattest das ja quasi sofort parat

Und ich nehm einfach mal an, dass du nicht alles, was da steht, auswendig weißt!

[grave knot]

Er hatte immerhin 27 Minuten Zeit, um das zu recherchieren. ^^

[nimble pebble]

Das ist wohl wahr~

[dusty oriole]

in Deutschland ist ja auch echt alles gesetzlich geregelt

[lofty heron]

Ich hatte das schon mal recherchiert für ein eventuelles Profilbild 😛

Ich kenn doch Deutschland, das muss ja irgendwo geregelt sein

und siehe da

das war es in der Tat

[dusty oriole]

Dann klagen wir uns das Recht beim Bundesverfassungsgericht ein

[nimble pebble]

Hehe

[lofty heron]

In allen sonstigen Fällen der Verwendung durch Firmen, Verbände, Vereine oder Private ist eine Genehmigung des Bundesverwaltungsamts notwendig.

Kannst denen ja mal aus SpaB eine Email schicken 😉

https://www.bva.bund.de/SharedDocs/Aufgaben/DE/B/bundesadler.html

;)))))

[dusty oriole]

locker ne Verarbeitungsgebühr von über 200€

[eager marlin]

Please make “no kink-shaming” a rule. This ought to be a safe space for people of all walks of life.

[fathom vector]

No but we can do it for every what.

[zealous stump]

that's better

[nimble pebble]

Problem is that we'll also have to catch wat and wht and whst and so on

[novel delta]

explain gender patterns

[nimble pebble]

it's >faq gender patterns and use #botchannel :3

[round otter]

@glad fjord wie läuft der Döner?

[novel delta]

Sorry I thought this was the bot channel

[nimble pebble]

No problem

[glad fjord]

I haven’t started yet, but it wont talke long after that

[round otter]

Nice!

[dusty oriole]

"Das Bundesamt für Döner sowie weitere türkische Spezialitäten" sollte mal von irgendjemanden eingerichtet werden

[round otter]

Wäre das nicht einfach das Kultusministerium? oder bin ich hier dumm mit meinen Ministerien

[dusty oriole]

das würde dem Kultusministerium unterliegen

ist ja nur ein Bundeamt

kein Bundesministerium

Das Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz unterliegt ja auch dem Bundesministerium für Inneres

[round otter]

Politik ist immer so verwebt und hierarchiemäßig aufgegliedert, viel zu kompliziert!

[dusty oriole]

Kann et seen das du dafür einfach a bissle zu bled bischt?

[gaunt bridge]

>explain is an alias of >faq

[nimble pebble]

Oh, damn :')

[nimble pebble]

As you can see, I learned something new and that will work, too!
My bad

[gaunt bridge]

😄

[open ridge]

#813296130062024708 message

can we have this emoji added

also do we have a translator or dict.cc bot ?

[gaunt bridge]

Yes, we do.

[nimble pebble]

were added.
Keep in mind for the first one that it might get replaced, when we get something better, but we'll let you know when that is considered.

and here without text:

This horse seems to like Döner

ping @dusty oriole (since you suggested it a while ago)

[round otter]

Warum wurd ich nicht gepingnt?

naja egal

!

[nimble pebble]

@round otter Bitte

[inland wind]

when bro shows up and you're not sure whether you hate him or love him

[nimble pebble]

This is so nice!

Is that an emote suggestion?

[inland wind]

yes i saw it on fb and i thought it belongs in this group!

and it actually looks quite nice on emote form too

[nimble pebble]

Did you call it 'angyluv' on purpose

[inland wind]

yes, but if it's confusing i can settle with it being called angrylove

[nimble pebble]

I mean I don't mind really

I would be fine with brofeelings as well

[inland wind]

i wish we can let the community decide

[open ridge]

Can we have this as an emoji ?

I'm not nitro

[open ridge]

@inland wind since you are uh.. more aesthetics oriented, what is your opinion

[inland wind]

i can help you make that into discord-friendly emote format

[open ridge]

Sure, I would appreciate it :) if it doesn't trouble you

Are you going to remove it's bg and turn it into a svg ?

[inland wind]

is svg better for discord? i usually use png

[open ridge]

(Just curious, tried adobe illustrator once to design the logo of my club and it turned Outta disaster)

[inland wind]

ohhh svg is vector. i remember now

[open ridge]

Should be right .... Scaling won't do weird things to images

[inland wind]

i don't know if discord supports svg, but it definitely supports png

[open ridge]

Should try

😀

[inland wind]

after a quick google, i don't think it's supported. seems like the community is asking for it to be implemented though

i checked, it doesn't support svg. png it is

[open ridge]

Ach so

Okidoke

Whenever you get time, no hurry

[open ridge]

Thanks! 😀

[inland wind]

happy to help

[open ridge]

@nimble pebble can we have this as emoji on server

Do we need an election or something for that

[inland wind]

just leave it here for a bit, people would vote on it as they go

like so

[chrome shadow]

If you'd like to suggest an emoji, please use #community-discussion so the community can react with 👍 or a similar reaction.

[open ridge]

Cool😀

[grave knot]

Only for their own native emoji. This is why you cannot copy their image.

You cannot currently upload your own.

[inland wind]

😔 discrimination

Makes my job easier though

[sonic bear]

so this was never added? 😔

[inland wind]

{__/}
( • . •)
/ > @normal oxide

[fathom vector]

Please Bulli add this one.

[inland wind]

do you want it turned to a sticker, arrem?

[normal oxide]

:(

[fathom vector]

Yes but Bulli the CS wizard should do it. And keep the ping in.

[inland wind]

okay

[dusty oriole]

Bulli is good at CS

?

[inland wind]

[midnight dune]

[modern tinsel]

cs

[nimble pebble]

No, that's the fun

[coarse ridge]

Heyo people

So I had a suggestion that we could community nights once a month (or twice a month). We could vote on a date as well as a topic, and whoever is interested can join. For example, we could have gaming night, or a music night, or a film night or what ever the topic would be.

Users would suggests topics, and who ever is willing to participate could vote on suggested topics (same could be done for dates). For example, we could have 10 days where you could vote, 4 days for the announcements, and then the actual event.

It would nice to group together the like-minded people and maybe connect some people who normally don't talk to each other

[glad fjord]

Was denkest du von dieser Gestalt. Ist sie klar genug, oder noch zu kompliziert

Den Döner hab ich noch nicht eingefärbt

[grave knot]

With saturated colours it should look fantastic. I love it!

[dusty oriole]

gimme that as food in real life immediately

[fathom vector]

mit gurke mit scharf habe ich gesagt

[round otter]

Sieht Fantastisch aus, sehr gut gemacht! 🏅

[vagrant python]

ist das drinnen noch ein Döner?

[grave knot]

A veggie Döner.

[glad fjord]

Ja die Schnörkel unterhalb der Tomaten

Die werden braun gefärbt, so wären die hoffentlich klarer

[vagrant python]

ah okay

[grave knot]

Oh, I see.

[nimble pebble]

added now
kept most of Arrem's lovely file name for it

[glad fjord]

Naja es sieht nach etwas aus?

Noch nicht fertig aber

Sollte ich die Farbe des Brotes ändern?

[nimble pebble]

Kannst du es auch noch problemlos transparent machen?

Mir persönlich passt die Brotfarbe

[glad fjord]

Jap auf jeden fall. Das Bild ist gerade nur nicht durchsichtig, weil es noch nicht fertig ist 😉

[nimble pebble]

Oki, wunderbar :P

Finds supi bisher

[glad fjord]

@nimble pebble is that big one small enough, I can make it smaller

[inland wind]

oooo lovely!!

[nimble pebble]

I agree :3

[nimble pebble]

Seems good

[inland wind]

i like it

my only complaint is that it makes me hungry

[nimble pebble]

Horse still wants to eat

[inland wind]

:3

[nimble pebble]

Tja

[glad fjord]

heilt er Kater? Ist er aus Katern? Die Antwort drauf werden wir leider nie erfahren

[nimble pebble]

So ist es!

[nimble pebble]

You can't always not make stuff like that appear in a public channel. How would you deal with this instead? Mute someone as soon as they potentially post something wrong? @zealous stump

I can see your point with what you posted back then and personally I'm trying to do most of the stuff in dms

But you can't really make it not appear ever imo

[zealous stump]

Hmm... In my opinion we could actually consider immediate muting, but as long as we make sure they get a chance / place to ask and talk about the discipline

Here's how another server I'm in deals with the matter. One day, I accidentally posted a meme of political figure. Since that was against the server's rule, I got immediately muted, but I could talk back to the moderators because of ModMail bot they have and explain that it was a mistake.

[nimble pebble]

That's one way of approaching it, but we could end up muting a lot of people for misunderstanding them

I would rather have deleted it and told you in dms not to post that I think

I can see that it can disrupt the flow though if it's dealt with in #general

[zealous stump]

Yeah, that's the biggest problem I'm seeing. My suggestion is for the same reason political discussions and etc are prohibitted: the chat getting overly heated.

[zealous stump]

That would have worked for me, but not for everyone. I could just ignore your DM and spam 'bruh that's just a meme why did you delete that' in the general chat.

[nimble pebble]

That's true

[gaunt bridge]

Immediately muting people might sound convenient but it really isn't a very positive way to approach issues like this. People don't feel comfortable when a punishment can be applied just because of a mistake.

Particularly in this case, I'm not going to immediately mute someone just because they asked if someone can translate stuff for them. That's really extreme. These are common, basic questions a lot of people ask because they don't know what the purpose of the server is / get confused about what kind of requests are appropriate here. Treating all such questions as if they're something wrong and inappropriate is really not a good way to deal with that specific issue.

And the other issue is that individually muting people is tedious and complicated. If 5 people are involved in a conversation, and you have to mute them all and DM with them all to deal with any minor breach of appropriate topic, this can really overcomplicate the issue. When most of the time, a simple "hey guys, let's drop this topic" works perfectly fine, and it makes sure that not only the people involved know the situation, but also anyone who comes into the conversation late and tries to continue.

I get that some people just hate when moderation is shown in the public channels on any level, but sometimes it's the only rational way to deal with certain situations.

[zealous stump]

You're right about what a right punishment is and the tediousness of individual muting. A channel dedicated to discussions of infractions might make things a little bit easier (well... and muting the user from every other channel aside that, as other people suggested above, I can see that this could still be an extreme measure), but your point still holds. I see my suggestion needs to be somehow improved or change the direction.

What I actually thought to be an issue were not moderations in the public channel, but the fact that all the people join in the "fight" between the moderator and the user. "Guys let's let the moderators deal with it and get back to the chill conversation" just doesn't work. It goes on and on.

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah, I totally agree with you on that being an issue.

I mean, people joining in and trying to encourage the fight.

It happens with a lot of stuff. Someone spams? 10 people join in to spam at the spammer "stop spamming". Someone trolls? People take the bait and try to argue with the troll.

I would like to add, that's actually one of the benefits of certain public moderation acts, because when we state publicly XYZ isn't appropriate, it helps to develop the culture of the server so that people are less likely to do stuff like that in future.

For example, stating clearly that it's not appropriate to mock users, even if they break the rules. Or stating that users are encouraged to report unwelcome DMs to us. It's good to make sure those ideas are part of the group thought-space of the community, if that makes sense. Explaining those to individuals only privately wouldn't have as much impact.

But we do also try to walk the line between private and public interactions with users.

[craggy crater]

I was also uncomfortable with the "I support maple" comments, because even though they felt validating, I didn't like the group ganging up on someone because I feel that kind of thing can escalate. So I just left the chat for a while.

[inland wind]

oh sorry maple :(

[craggy crater]

No no! I just get nervous when people take notice of me sometimes. I get overwhelmed pretty easily.

[inland wind]

i get that

[woeful wigeon]

e

[dusty oriole]

e

[rare drift]

Can you make it so we can subscribe to politics and nsfw separately? I want to see politics but not nsfw

[dusty oriole]

^ this

[gaunt bridge]

I think for now we're just going to see how it goes and how people use it. It's basically a trial right now. We'll definitely be open to considering changes after that.

[vagrant python]

#controversial ist ein besserer Name, bitte ändern danke schönen Tag noch

[cold shell]

Politik und NSFW sind so verschieden 😂

[nimble pebble]

Nicht notwendigerweise

[unborn thistle]

Wie wär's mit #sensitive-topics?

[craggy crater]

What if it is political nsfw? Like stalin getting down and dirty with hitler?

[craggy crater]

I personally like having a space dedicated to learning German where I don't have to deal with antisemitism, or weird sexist memes. I don't think that stuff belongs at school, and I don't think it belongs here either. If the majority prefers squabbling over things like that sure, but I just liked that we had a space that was more learning-oriented and separate from the rest of the internet. I just don't think it's a needed space. I like how things are now.

[fathom vector]

I mean, the channel isn't meant as a dump for any sort of content. I'll copy the guidelines that everyone is shown upon subbing to it

Although we allow political and NSFW discussion topics in this channel, all other server rules still apply here. Discord Terms of Service and Community Guidelines also apply here. In particular, we would like to highlight these specific guidelines for this channel:
🔹 No images or videos depicting nudity or sexual acts, including art/drawings (this is required for Discord Partner servers)
🔹 Discrimination is not allowed anywhere on the server, so don't post anything racist, sexist, anti-LGBT, ableist, or otherwise discriminatory
🔹 All discussions should be civil and this is not a place for arguments or insults
🔹 Please be respectful towards others and use common sense at all times
🔹 This channel will still be moderated and we may still ask you to drop the topic if it gets out of hand

Essentially it's just a channel where people who feel the need to be horny (or to talk about piss and poop ) can do that without bothering anyone else who'd rather not see such content. Outright porn or discrimination is still not and never will be allowed anywhere on the server.

[lofty heron]

If I am allowed to add to that, I'm concerned that the inclusion of such a channel will further put a strain on moderating for you mods. You already have to deal with the regular trolls very frequently which impacts your time/work/motivation. I'm anxious a channel which exclusively deals with difficult to moderate subjects will make your lives as moderators here much worse and could maybe even impact the general "modability" for the other channels. Ultimately this is something y'all have to decide for yourself but it would be good to know such a channel wouldn't overburden you folks.

[fathom vector]

Well, people have been asking for it so we're giving it a test run. If it proves to be a constant source of trouble and if the guidelines are violated too often, we definitely won't be keeping it.

[dusty oriole]

As the federal protection of the constitution I think that politics should be left to real politics servers and not to a german learning server which main purpose it is to get flooded by memes learn german

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah, what Arrem said. The success of the channel depends on people choosing to use it appropriately.

[dusty oriole]

That won't happen, and we all know it

[fathom vector]

I mean it has been pretty sane and rather quiet so far, but yeah, we'll see what happens.

[dusty oriole]

Arrem insanity comes with time

[craggy crater]

Ah okay good. I hadn't seen those guidelines. I also worried about the strain on mods but figured they would be fine with it because they instituted it. Good luck!

[gaunt bridge]

Thanks, Maple. And for sharing your thoughts. 🤗

We'll definitely be keeping all that stuff in mind when reviewing the channel in future.

[craggy crater]

No problem. I didn't want a discussion, I just shared because you said it was okay to.

[rapid urchin]

i can't really follow this argument if i am being honest. you say "but I just liked that we had a space that was more learning-orientated and separate from the rest of the internet" as though the existence of this channel suddenly makes that null and void. but that channel is still separate from this and nobody has to deal with the drama so long as it's not brought outside of the channel. from this perspective, it's all kept divided and is only an issue for the mods and the people that interact inside of it

[craggy crater]

I'm not reading this. Thank you.

[rapid urchin]

@gaunt bridge one suggestion i'd like is that the temp mute that's put for vc pending is doubly applied for the nsfw channel

[gaunt bridge]

Eh, it is fair to be concerned about the stuff mentioned. Like any discrimination should not be given a platform and it's fair to be concerned about that. That's why we even put it in the guidelines for the channel, because we're well aware that people will try to post stuff like that if we don't explicitly state it. And that kind of thought doesn't have a place on the server - those kinds of people should rather be banned from the server, since there's just no place for discriminatory ideas here.

[rapid urchin]

because although we don't get a lot of subtle trolls, people can still take advantage of mod's giving the benefit of the doubt and being patient

so it's just better to add a ridiculously long timer on that

[rapid urchin]

hmm maybe my idea of a nsfw and maple's idea for nsfw is just totally different. because what i mean is "topics that aren't normally allowed on glad" for example, covid

recent events in general

these things tend to have heavier restrictions even though they're topics you'd have daily

i'm entirely fine with the restriction of hate speech nor do i want porn on this channel, but again that's not what i expected from the installation of such a channel

so that's why i'm not particularly concerned

[cold shell]

It's why many servers don't have a NSFW channel

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah, that is essentially the idea. It's just not what most people think of, because on other servers, the politics/sensitive-topics channels are more extreme. And a lot of the politics people try to discuss even in #general is extreme (discriminatory and other bad stuff).

[cold shell]

It gets bad really quickly

[gaunt bridge]

So it's totally reasonable that people are worried about what could be discussed there. We just want to see how it goes for now and see what people do with it.

[rapid urchin]

again my only strong suggestion is a pending role for it that's much longer than vc pending

as controversial would be a completely optional channel

and /does/ have nothing to do with the main purpose of the discord, learning german

[fathom vector]

Well, so far it doesn't even have a VC channel.

[rapid urchin]

not what i'm saying

i mean a pending for

the channel

it being a text channel doesn't make it less trollsible (troll possible)

[lofty heron]

I hope the "gated behind a role so you have to actually read #announcements (and later potentially #282831147942281216 for once)" precaution will keep most troublemakers away though I'm still sceptical :^)

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah, it's not a bad idea, but it might not end up being necessary. Most trolls aren't smart or patient enough to sub to hidden channels.

[rapid urchin]

this is true. i'm not even a troll and i'm not even smart enough to sub to hidden channels

[gaunt bridge]

😄

[fathom vector]

Oh, yeah we can look into that. But the somewhat sad reality about trolls is that they just come here to meme and they don't bother reading. I don't think we've ever banned someone for trolling in a group channel.

[lofty heron]

An achievement to grab you say?

[fathom vector]

Go ahead.

[lofty heron]

nah I like it here I'd rather stay 😦

[fathom vector]

I'd like that too. You can stay until you're at least B2. 😌

[lofty heron]

\o/

[inland wind]

Wait. You're not a troll?

[zealous stump]

So about the age restriction on the channel and the fact that the channel is both about politics and nsfw topics, the problem I want to talk about is that it could be seen as this:

This is a German learning server. We don't care if you want to talk about politics or not. But we'll alow you to do so IF:

• You can speak German confidentally ( #german-only )
  or
• You are an adult. ( #archived-sensitive-topics )

[inland wind]

my issue with labelling it as a "NSFW" channel is people who don't read the rules would mistake it as a channel where people dump nudes and talk about their sex lives. It's very easy to take things out of context as that's often what people think about when they see a NSFW tag. I think renaming it to something like "controversial", or "mature topics" might be better

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah, as mentioned in the announcement, the name is just temporary. We just didn't know what to call it so it's open to community suggestions.

[inland wind]

:3

[steady sedge]

@dim rampart supposing the purpose of banning it is to create a less heated environment and to make political discussion more about german learning, making a channel for it undoes both of those things

people will stop having to learn german to talk about politics

and they will get just as heated, just in a different channel

[dim rampart]

i mean this is also about community

community building

and the avoiding talking about controversy is mainly to avoid getting too heated

[steady sedge]

exactly

i addressed that

[dim rampart]

well if people still dont behave properly then they will get moderated lol

like, it's not like community rules still don't apply

but people can talk about politics without devolving into fighting

[steady sedge]

there's my argument for why it should be allowed in @general

#general

[dim rampart]

but you can consolidate like 75 percent of the arguements that could occur to one channel

it isnt a missense to allow controversy only in one place

especially since it would clog up the channel anyway

[gaunt bridge]

The ban of politics in the main server isn't just about preventing fighting. It's also because a lot of people really don't like seeing politics and it makes it harder for them to use the server if it's not limited to certain areas.

[steady sedge]

allowing it in #german-only at all may make people hesitant to look there too

[dim rampart]

people generally dont look there first lol

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah, but we have many channels where people can speak German.

And as mentioned, when it's in #german-only , it's naturally a lot more tame.

Most of the time, anyway.

[steady sedge]

thats fair enough

anyway why did you guys make the extra channel in the first place

i didnt really see a problem with how this ran beforehand

it seemed fine

other than the occasional rulebreaking by me and jd and others lol

[gaunt bridge]

We made a list of commonly suggested things from the community and we're going through them thinking about whether to try them or not.

[steady sedge]

i see

[gaunt bridge]

A lot of people feel we don't give community suggestions enough consideration, so we're trying to open up to that a bit more. Although my personal view is the same as yours - I don't see any reason to add such a channel.

But we're a community and it's not just one person making all the choices, and like I said, sometimes the first thing you try, or the 2nd or 3rd, doesn't work. That's also why this is a trial and not a certain thing.

[steady sedge]

alright then

well you know how i vote on it lol

[inland wind]

i completely agree with you base

in any case, i guess we'll see how it goes from here

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah, thank you for sharing your opinion as well, Nom. And sorry if it's something that's uncomfortable for you, I do care that people feel like they're treated with respect here. I'm sorry for being a bit blunt, but I just wanted to make it clear that it takes time to work this stuff out.

[steady sedge]

yeah no i should apologize i was being way too mean

[zealous stump]

I'll also dial it a bit back in that case. I'm going to believe the opinions of people who can't access the channel will be considered as importantly as how the channel is used.

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah, absolutely. The focus on how the channel is used is mostly because... well, if people are just abusing it, there's nothing we can do about it except destroy it, lol. But for other stuff, it depends. Maybe we'll find a compromise or maybe it just won't work out at all, we'll see.

[zealous stump]

Yep, we'll see. :D

[steady sedge]

im just gonna hope this is a deterrent to people sending really horrible shit to the main channels although im pretty sure theyre gonna send it there nonetheless

ive seen some terrible stuff sent herre

maybe some of it will be directed to the channel i cant access

[zealous stump]

the deterrent to them is a ban tbh

[steady sedge]

well they get banned anyway

but unsuspecting ppl like me click on the videos before that

[inland wind]

yeah i think it's not a good idea to click on videos sent by randos anyway

i'll try to watch one every now and then, and i'll help you ping stuff base and other mods

[gaunt bridge]

I think there's nothing that we can do about trolls without restricting access to the server completely. People like that want their weird stuff to be seen by as many people as possible. We've considered stuff like making it harder to access the server, but the problem is that it causes more problems than it solves.

[inland wind]

i think Bro mentioned that he saw something very traumatising sent on general by some randoms too. i really would like that to stop happening to people

[steady sedge]

exactly

i remember there was this one time someone sent something i will never forget to #questions

[gaunt bridge]

There's always the option of banning images outside of locked channels I guess.

[steady sedge]

where will i send my cat pics then 😢

yeah i mean honestly i think id rather just have them open

[inland wind]

is it an option to ban vc-pending people from posting images or videos?

[gaunt bridge]

I think the issue is that the way the settings work is kinda weird. Or something else Discord-related like that.

We're still planning to discuss our options for stuff like that, so we'll see.

[zealous stump]

embeds in general?

[inland wind]

yeah, nazi stuff are one thing but when trolls start posting gore and other shit..

[chrome valley]

I must say that I'm very glad that I don't read general 🤣

Also, yeah, one more vote to not call nsfw things that aren't porn
I doubt you want either porn or gore here so using nsfw tag really is misleading for both sides - those who definitely don't want to see such stuff and those who think such stuff is now allowed here

'politics-controversy' seems fine
Or 'highly moderated area for tricky topics'
Adult/mature or similar again implies on porn

If trolls are such issue, maybe then it definitely makes sense to look into 'pass the test before getting approved'
Like, 2+7=Neun, or 'translate this to German' or type this 'I, redeyecat, hereby declare that I'm coming to this server to learn German and that I've read the rules and will follow them'

It's psychological thing, when people are forced to write thing, and to promise to behave nicely, it might happen

Like, coursera had similar thing :)

Those who really want to join server to learn won't have an issue to do a few steps
Those who just want to troll, might decide it's not worth it

[grave knot]

I'd argue that gore falls under its own category: NSFL.

For now it's just an experiment, I look forward to seeing it develop.

[nimble pebble]

^

I think technically the term nsfw fits and we tell everyone who subscribes to it in several places what it's not for. Hopefully one of those things will be looked at

But yeah, time will tell

Thanks for your thoughts so far, RedEyeCat :3

[grave knot]

Will this channel also be a place to ask historical questions out of genuine interest?

[nimble pebble]

Yes

As of now nothing like that is disallowedin there ^^

[grave knot]

Thanks.

[nimble pebble]

Anytime

[grave knot]

As far as name suggestions go: #unrestricted.

[midnight dune]

hey can we ban spitting in #general

it's plain nasty

[gaunt bridge]

Yes, I asked them to stop and deleted the gifs.

[lofty heron]

no spitting I can agree with that!

[midnight dune]

aight I thought it was just for that isolated incident but if there's just, a reduction of spit gifs, I'd be real grateful.

it's just about the only thing I see when I go into general nowadays

[gaunt bridge]

Oh, do you actually mean Aldi's emoji that she posts? @midnight dune

[midnight dune]

Yes. If I'm just being squeamish and nobody else has a problem with it it's fine, I'll keep shut, but god. I hate it, it's disgusting, I don't know why its on general, I don't know how its appropriate

[gaunt bridge]

It is a bit squeamish and a lot of people aren't bothered by that stuff. It's one of those borderline things where some people hate it and some people don't care. But yes, it's reasonable to ask people to stop doing it, so we can do that.

[inland wind]

I love aldi's emotes but i find the spitting gross as well. And it's getting picked up by other people 😔

[static wagon]

im <18 rn so idk how much my opinion matters, but i kinda liked how this server really wasnt much of a political space.

[chrome shadow]

I don't really understand that argument, in this case nothing has changed for you in that regard ? 🤔

[static wagon]

i mean yeah, but idk if others felt the same. and also ima be 18 soon, but i can always just not opt in.
does making a channel nsfw disable any explicit filters this server has in place/are there any?

[gaunt bridge]

Like what?

You can see the special guidelines of the channel here: #community-discussion message

If that's what you meant.

[static wagon]

i assume people might do it anyways, i guess? discord has a filter to scan for explicit stuffs, does marking a channel nsfw disable it?

[chrome shadow]

As far as I'm aware it does indeed ignore channels that are marked as nsfw

[vagrant python]

vielleicht wäre eine FAQ für den neuen Kanal eine gute Idee, damit man leicht die Guidelines und sonst was aufrufen kann?

oder in purpose

purpose #archived-sensitive-topics

[jovial zealot]

Information about politics-nsfw

politics-nsfw

This role gives you access to the #archived-sensitive-topics channel where you can discuss adult and political topics within limits. This is an off-topic channel and not directly related to learning German.
Be sure to read and follow the channel's [guidelines](#archived-sensitive-topics message).

Enter >sub politics-nsfw in #botchannel to get access to this channel.

[vagrant python]

ah, da sind sie schon, aber man muss schon abonniert sein

[weary maple]

I think a good idea would be to Implement pronunciation lessons, similar to the sessions held for grammar and reading comprehension. They could be held by a native speaker or someone who has extensive knowledge of the language, possibly know IPA, the different symbols and what they represent, maybe know how to use tongue positioning diagrams to teach the students, etc.

The students could try to pronounce a vowel, consonant, word or entire phrase, and the teacher can then review them one-on-one, correcting their mistakes and giving advices, as is done in real schools. This would greatly benefit the students, as routine practice and corrections are what makes someone learn a language, and pronunciation is sometimes left behind in our day-to-day exercises. Homework could be implemented also.

Just to note, these are only suggestions, and also examples of what a session's activities might look like. The teacher can of course adapt or change them according to what they see fit or beneficial.

[rapid urchin]

tbh i do agree it's a lil gross but i don't mind it when used sparingly

but it's kind of gone beyond that

[midnight dune]

Yooo right?

I wouldn't give as much of a shit if it wasn't the thing I saw everytime I went to General

[nimble pebble]

aldi is a supermarket and a lovely user of our server

[magic wadi]

danks dir, bulli

[magic wadi]

sorry it made you that uncomfortable. i'd have used it less if you'd just talked to me though, i can respect that

[midnight dune]

Its ok, I did ask you to stop but I get how it could've seemed joking because, well we bully a shitton of people on general

You CAN spit just like

Once a week please im so scarred I've seen spit boy 5 times

This week

[fathom vector]

Tfw you get one spit per week.

[magic wadi]

deal

[round otter]

I think it would be a good idea to seperate #politics and #nsfw, because #politics isn't really 18+

[dusty oriole]

Gutes Kultusministerium

[balmy steppe]

Spit me aldi

DM bitte

[vagrant python]

bitte dieses Emoji hinzufügen danke:

[fathom vector]

Nein.

[digital bay]

Csn we make this an emoji

[fathom vector]

[balmy steppe]

It's not the same

One is looking at you, the otheraint

[digital bay]

Exactly

One is general disgust, the other is disgust in the specific person

[gaunt bridge]

The new channel name suggestions so far:
#controversial
#sensitive-topics
#mature-topics
#serious

Did anyone else have any? Ping me if you want to add some so that I don't miss it. We'll have a vote on it soon.

[balmy steppe]

#adultering

[midnight dune]

what sinister deeds are you planning trax

btw what are the mods opinions on the memes channel

it has been campaigned for hard in the past few weeks :^)

[balmy steppe]

Leaving toilets seats up for every toilet I encounter

[dusty oriole]

Sometimes you just have to do it...

[balmy steppe]

Thank you for being part of the solution. I dream of the day when I don't have to reach down and put the toilet seat up. So inconvenient

[gloomy dock]

we need pensivecowbread on this server

[inland wind]

petition for server emote pls danke

[dusty oriole]

Mein Gott immer dieses Weißbrot

[glad fjord]

[kind sleet]

#serious? that's what the main server i'm active on uses for politics / sensitive discussions / etc. or #ernst 😉

[gaunt bridge]

Thanks!

[grave knot]

Since spitting has been covered, can we please stop saying "pee" or "poo"? It's not funny, far more prevalent, and not at home on a learning server. It might just be me but I don't want to see it.

[final girder]

that was an ironic comment, pointing out how unnecessary and unamusing that "butt" joke was

[grave knot]

I don't mean that, don't worry. ^^

[final girder]

oh lol nevermind

[grave knot]

It's a common occurence for #general to be spammed with those words.

[final girder]

right

[inland wind]

i will stop

[dusty oriole]

@lofty heron Was wenn man die Hörverstehen-Aufgaben fertig erledigt hat?

[lofty heron]

@dusty oriole So currently I have planned to release the solutions on maybe monday(?) so everyone had some time over the weekend to do them, but if you can't wait for that I could make a separate folder for the solutions and give them to you :^)

Also, do people want a transcript as well?

[dusty oriole]

Das ist so nett von dir, sure, if you don't mind

[lofty heron]

did you do everything? 👀 hehe

@dusty oriole Here: https://k00.fr/solutions1 It's currently still pw protected so I'd have to pm you with that 😛

[fathom vector]

Quite frankly we've tried already once and apparently it hasn't worked, but we can try being a bit stricter about it.

[round otter]

#nonostuff

[dusty oriole]

@lofty heron please give me the password

[lofty heron]

@dusty oriole sure can I dm you?