general-2

[mellow magnet]

basically, I'm planning to join German classes but their next batch is starting in jan so I thought I can learn A1 or something before that

[naive charm]

When you learn vocabularly on the side, you can already understand some written german until then

Learning vocabulary should be thought of as steadily adding a few words each day without it feeling to much of a hussle

[strong stratus]

I'd suggest this instead of duolingo

[naive charm]

Was war eigentlich der Grund dahinter, dass Stella und du dieses Mathezeugs vor eurem Namen habt? 😄

[strong stratus]

And the server also offers a lot of opportunities to get started. Maybe it’ll help you to listen to conversations in one of the voice chats or learn some basic's in #beginner-german
@fate.#8002

[mellow magnet]

o

[mortal terrace]

hello

i am new

[strong stratus]

Ganz lange Geschichte
To sum up: Ich wollte was cooleres aus dem x in meinem Username machen, also packte ich ne Funktion drum

[strong stratus]

Welcome!

[mellow magnet]

looking at the course, A1 seems really concise but I probably shouldn't rush through the course coz it's a language

btw, do u guys know about any unis germany with good english taught courses

[mortal terrace]

thanks

i don't know German much?

[strong stratus]

Und Stella machte mit, weil ein Sinus kommt selten allein

[naive charm]

Your priority should be to expose yourself to as much understandable German as possible. @mellow magnet

[naive charm]

Ich versteh 😂

[potent steppe]

War meine Schuld 🤓

[strong stratus]

Stimmt! Er hat mich erst auf das x angesprochen

[potent steppe]

Yaa

[soft merlin]

ja.. that’s what i’m doing right now lol

or attempting

[gritty citrus]

fick

[glacial citrus]

the german urge to write wasser instead of water on anything

[orchid panther]

I say mein instead of mine way too much. saying wasser sounds horrible

[glacial citrus]

when talking to almost anyone i’ll just say wasser instead of water-

[orchid panther]

I don't have my glasses on and I saw the dash as a tilda and I got confused and thought you were saying something about calling people tall glasses of water lmao

[glacial citrus]

interesting

[nocturne frost]

@pure bronze @zenith flint

[pure bronze]

Hahaha

[tired gale]

hi

[late forge]

alles klar chef

[left jolt]

Thing is people say duo isnt good because it only gets you to A1, but thats it purpose and why it is good. You need to get to A1 before you can go further anyway. Its probably the best resource out there for beginning

[late yarrow]

No it is not

faq duolingo

[rocky goblet]

Duolingo

Duolingo is a decent resource to start with if you're a complete beginner, but it's neither efficient nor comprehensive!

What Duolingo will teach you about grammar is very limited, and none of the systems they use will help you practise much of it.
You can learn some vocabulary with it, but their method (based on the concept of spaced repetition) doesn't work for everybody, and the way Duolingo teaches is not very effective compared to the amount of time it requires from you.

So, if you find it useful, by all means keep using it, but remember not to fall for its gamification of language learning, and move past it when it stops being beneficial. Ignore the streaks.

In any case, keep in mind that Duolingo is not enough to learn a language, ever.

If you're looking for guidance or alternatives, check out >faq beginner in our #botchannel .

[late yarrow]

Not efficient or comprehensive.

There are so many better apps and resources to try than just duo

[left jolt]

Not comprehensive just literally means it gets u to a lower stage, ie A1

[late yarrow]

Busuu, drops, memrise, lingq, anki, readle, maybe pimsleur (super expensive)

Fair enough, but it is inefficient and lacks grammar info

It's a bad start imo

[left jolt]

memrise and drops dont have grammar info really either

duo does technically

lingq technically no one uses it

anki is 0% helpful for a beginner

[late yarrow]

Yeah, they're definitely side resources but.. Duo is just as bad imo, if not worse

[left jolt]

How can it be bad if its perfect at accomplishing its goal

[late yarrow]

Really I'd start with basics from good youtube channels or podcasts maybe. Obv talking to actual ppl if there's a choice

.. I'm saying this abt Duo partially because of my personal experience I suppose? I tried duo for a decent amount of time, learnt nothing and was confused about grammar due to the lack of comprehensive explanations. So based on that, for me, it achieved nothing

[left jolt]

Yea im not a "duo fan" even tho I finished 3 or 4 trees

[late yarrow]

Oof.. No clue how many I did

[left jolt]

But im more against people who say you can "learn" through duo to B level, some even say C level

[late yarrow]

Oh yeah definitely

Like bot says, no one resource can do that, even if it is good

[left jolt]

B2 to C1 level is a lot of brute memorization of words and grammar

which is why im reading the dictionary

[late yarrow]

I would definitely say premium busuu is 100% better than duo, because of the grammar explanations, being able to save words, being able to upload text or audio to be corrected by natuves or ppl that know the language etc etc
But that obv costs money
Yeahhhh

I have a dictionary.. But I can barely read it

[left jolt]

abdrucken - print
abdrücken - pull the trigger

[late yarrow]

Oh my god no 😂

I already mix up my Us when speaking unless I focus

[left jolt]

abbeißen - to bite off

abbeizen - to remove paint with corrosives

[late yarrow]

I mean

Z is easier to differentiate

[mellow magnet]

this is making me scared of german

[left jolt]

ABC-Waffen - nuclear, biological and chemical weapons

this is cool

[late yarrow]

**Be scared? **
And overcome it

I said ö correctly earlier so I'm happy (I've struggled to say it for 3-4 years)

[left jolt]

wait till u try to say oo

say Moos

[mellow magnet]

how do u guys even type that kind of u and o and stuff

[late yarrow]

On mobile, hold the key down

Shows the accents, umlauts etc

[left jolt]

i just use german kezboard

[late yarrow]

I've never seen oo in German, I'm scared

[left jolt]

moss - Moos

[late yarrow]

My keyboard is set to recommend eng and ger words, but I keep eng layout

Oh boy

Me: feeling happy with pronunciation
Ziel: oo

My brain hasn't seen this before, it can't comprehend it

[left jolt]

i cant get it quite right either

[mellow magnet]

ziel

[late yarrow]

[mellow magnet]

how long did u take to get to c1 btw

[left jolt]

Bin ich nicht😔

[late yarrow]

Then B1/2?

[mellow magnet]

o

your nickname has C1

so I thought u were C1

[hard coral]

ah german is a great but stupid language

[late yarrow]

[left jolt]

Well 5 years but i have been learning es and fr so in 5 years i got B2 German, B1 French and Spanish

[late yarrow]

You're speaking in English

[left jolt]

I will say it took me 6 months to get used to cases

[late yarrow]

English is the dumb language

Not German

[hard coral]

we mix a lot of stuff

you guys know "jetzt haben wir den salat"

when translating straight to english, well ☠️

[late yarrow]

Right?

[left jolt]

ich mach moves für den Salat

[late yarrow]

Now we have the salad.. I don't get it

[hard coral]

oh

well basically when we say "jetzt haben wir den salad" in german we do not mean "now we have the salad"
but

"i knew this [problem or whatever] was going to happen, and now we have got it. [problem]."

[late yarrow]

Oh, is it supposed to be a saying??

Oh

I can't read sorry

My brain filters the most important words out at times

[hard coral]

yep its a saying xD

[late yarrow]

That's so weird in comparison to the ones I know

[hard coral]

yes its kinda famous

[left jolt]

jemandem Abbitte leisten (wegen) u ever heard this @hard coral

[late yarrow]

I've never heard it after 3-4 years of this

I don't even

[hard coral]

i believe it was something to excuse yourself

oh nvm wait

ah i got it on my tongue

[late yarrow]

The tip of your tongue

[hard coral]

yeah xD

ok, im not really sure but i believe it does mean of asking someone to accept their apology.

[late yarrow]

You can do it, I believe in you

Huh okay

[left jolt]

yyea

[hard coral]

[mellow magnet]

hey

someone from this server told me to use nicos weg for A1

but how am I supposed to use this

should I watch the video 1st?

or should I read the script 1st

[shadow bramble]

hallo

[slender nimbus]

rasputin epic

three poisoned wines and cakes

nothing happened

three shots to the head

alive

they had to throw him into a lake to kill him

[mellow magnet]

idk who that is but judging by the stuff you're saying, I bet my left nut that he probably transformed into a fish after that

[slender nimbus]

he said if he was to be killed russia would fall into peril

he was killed

the tsar was executed

and all russian royalty they could find

they became a democracy

a very dictatorish democracy

then they became communist

and stalin existed

and then now there is putin

[sharp lantern]

@slender nimbus random odd comments like this are not suited for this server, please avoid doing that

[slender nimbus]

ok

[late yarrow]

Whichever you prefer I suppose? I'd skim over the script afterwards at most

[past abyss]

schau dir einfach ein Video an

ich hab‘ die Serie geguckt kann dir voll empfehlen

[opal sequoia]

@ocean sequoia @fleet dragon Don't troll with comments like that, please.

[ocean sequoia]

fine

i was gonna do it on that too but you said please

[fleet dragon]

ok i won't Mr./Mrs. Admin

[ocean sequoia]

we're certified comedians tho

[fleet dragon]

we are

[merry inlet]

I don't think comedy certifications are a thing

[fleet dragon]

@merry inlet? more like Vile Shit 😎

and that's how you comedy

[ocean sequoia]

violet? more like vioNOTlet

that's also how you comedy even if it makes 0 sense

[dry chasm]

Hi! nwn

[ocean sequoia]

ok

[shadow bramble]

hallo

[past abyss]

hi

[hot cloak]

hi

hi

[open hornet]

hallo every body do anyone have time to practice on B2 goethe zertifikat mündlich Prüfung

[dusky kindle]

Endlich führt Gladbach für das erste mal

Neuhaus der Fußballgott

[pseudo lava]

1:0

Gg

[dusky kindle]

Frankfurt ausgleicht :/

Kurz vor der Halbzeit

[dusky kindle]

3–2 für Frankfurt Jesus

Frankfurt führt kurz nach unserem Elfer

Diese Abwehr ist einfach dreckig

[pseudo lava]

Schaust du es noch?

😅

Hab aufgehört

[dusky kindle]

Jup

Dieses Spiel anzuschauen ist seeeeehr peinlich aber trotzdem schau ich es

[hot cloak]

ah nice

[pseudo lava]

Haha

[rocky goblet]

FAQ not found. Try >explain all.

FAQ not found. Try >explain all.

[whole lark]

🤔🤔 I love stupid Jokes but tf is that

[ocean sequoia]

a joke beyond stupidness

[whole lark]

Avoid those jokes

[ocean sequoia]

matija more like matshita

[slender nimbus]

you know how google predicts what you will type when searching?

china made that in the 80's

[ocean sequoia]

they'll predict your date of death if you you say something wrong

[whole rapids]

matija? more like matiNEIN

mache ich es richtig?

[ocean sequoia]

remember one thing mate

there's never a correct way to make horrible jokes

[whole rapids]

[whole lark]

Das war schrecklich aber lustig

[blissful briar]

Soll ich lachen?

Jkjk

[slender nimbus]

imagine telletubbies but they actually speak a conlang

[strong stratus]

@hot cloak what information do you need to complete the equation?
(I pinged you here because questions wasn’t the right place for that)

[hot cloak]

@strong stratus the result of the equation

Is it equal to zero?

Or is it something else?

[strong stratus]

It's simply a function

[hot cloak]

Oh

Hum... With my high-school math skills, I think that I might be able to do this

[strong stratus]

So you can do a lot more things than just solving it

[hot cloak]

Yeah

Like drawing the graph

And stuff

But... Wait

The X is elevated to 5

I know what to do when it's X or X²... Is it the same with X⁵?

[strong stratus]

You can find the graph here

#archived-media message

[gleaming sundial]

Hi!

Does anyone here have SZ Plus?

[willow fog]

If any international student is here

Do i need a conditional acceptence from a uni to have a visa for language courses

[gleaming sundial]

#archived-culture-study-visa

[spiral belfry]

Genius doesn't have a lot of content for German songs

Just putting it out there so someone can get to work 😌

[hot cloak]

My heritage is completely German, I don't have any relative in my in my bloodline who's not not german.

I have a classmate whose heritage is also completely German, but the color of our skin, eyes and hair is completely different.

Are there different races within Germany?

[atomic folio]

We dont say races

But yes, there are different races in Germany

[hot cloak]

We're both white, but his skin is much paler, his eyes are blue while mine are green, and his hair is blonde while mine is dark brown.

[whole rapids]

Ein DNA Test für euch beiden würde Klarheit bezüglich eurer Volkszugehörigkeit schaffen.

[hot cloak]

can anyone help me with german

[atomic folio]

Yes

[hot cloak]

Ja

Aber es ist zu teuer

I wrote this sentence without using any translator! Yayyyy!

[unkempt lotus]

Nice

[slender nimbus]

I hate how chinggis kaxan is always portrayed as a villain

[potent steppe]

Hallo.

[novel warren]

Tchüss

[lofty girder]

that's changing nowadays, not for being a man I have to hide my emotions

[lofty girder]

[novel warren]

[hot cloak]

People dont give a fuck about men lmao

[opal sequoia]

#archived-sensitive-topics

[hot cloak]

Proved

[late yarrow]

[final patio]

anyone here self study German ?

[hot cloak]

Me

[final patio]

I want to improve my german speaking skill between A2-B1, you all have group for this , hehe

[hot cloak]

I cant right now

[final patio]

you're learning A1 or A2 =))

[hot cloak]

Well id say im closer to A2 than to A1

[cerulean mantle]

Hi Everyone!

[midnight flower]

Hi

[dusky kindle]

Ach toll wir haben nochmal gebottelt

Ausgleichtor in der 90+1ten Minute

(Wir bedeutet Gladbach hier)

[patent moss]

Is there a club for A1

[late yarrow]

Don't think so

[pastel karma]

Hi everyone! I am now sitting with not enough understandable sentence: though I know all words from it

"Unsere Wellness-Programme machen Ihren Urlaub zu einem Erlebnis".

Was genau ist "zu einem Erlebnis"? "to the experience"? but it seems not to pass the meaning of the sentence

[hot cloak]

"Our wellness programs will turn your vacation into an experience"

(That's how I would translate it.)

[lunar pawn]

@pastel karma I think the key to understand this sentence is the phrase "(jemanden) zu (etwas) machen", which means something like "to create something for someone".

[sudden panther]

@mental geyser hello, please keep in mind that we only allow English and German in most of the channels, and do refrain from spamming emoji. Take some time to read the #rules if necessary.

[dreamy wraith]

hey

[west barn]

Hey. New here. Mind telling me what exactly the topic under discussion is rn?

[storm sierra]

hey

[vale locust]

How to make a communist community of koalas

[silk vigil]

anyone study group 1 im bad at German and i wanna improve with someone

[sullen oyster]

Hi

M bad too

I just start learning german

Recently

[lofty girder]

At least I care

A little bit of Colombia in Germany

[young pier]

How do you join a voice group?

[rocky goblet]

@young pier, please read #getting-started for info on how to join VC and more.

[pastel karma]

I didn´t notice your massage thank you

[hot cloak]

how can i join a room

all of them are locked

[fresh hazel]

mine were locked too

but after a short while they were unlocked

so wait

i guess

[patent leaf]

New users will initially be given the @Limited Permissions role which prevents them from joining voice channels. This will be removed after 15 minutes (longer for young accounts). It may be reinstated if users cause problems in VC.

It's in the info channel

[shadow bramble]

we man have feeling 🥺

[hot cloak]

Do people actually talk here

[winged marlin]

Yeah , most of the time

[sudden panther]

@kind grove do try to avoid random spam in the future.

[surreal gazelle]

@sudden panther I like your profile picture.

[pure bronze]

@slim sluice ‘s is even better

[surreal gazelle]

That's who I pinged, right?

[slim sluice]

thank u bestie @sudden panther made it

[pure bronze]

Best profile picture for the best member

[slim sluice]

[pure bronze]

[kind grove]

Oh sry

[hot cloak]

hello

hi

[honest barn]

hello

anyone using duolingo here ?

[faint turtle]

I used to. With german wasn’t not so good for me

[honest barn]

with such easy questions like these

how come aufnahmeprüfung is so hard ?

with so much competition

[dark verge]

Imagine all those flying mathematic symbols and forms and now picture those around my head and you‘ll have me while looking at this😅😂

[modest tundra]

Oh shit u at FU?

[modest tundra]

The math is rlly easy

I think the hardest part is understand the question (i.e. the language)

[gusty flume]

I solved the quesion 5 a)

[last linden]

sucks when you know the math but not the language smh

[dark verge]

The math is everything but easy lmao, as of yesterday you know my age, so combine that with me having repeated 6th grade and you‘ll know why lol, despite being on a „Gymnasium“ for most my school time

Realschule doesn‘t teach like half of that

Even til the very end

So it‘s kind of baffling when you‘re finished with „Realschule“, and so with school in general, but still are as stupid as a 9th grade „Gymnasiast“

[modest tundra]

Because this is 11th/12th grade content

But even there you'd get harder exercises

Tbf, this is studienkolleg; it's supposed to prepare you for uni. Just like the Abitur

[merry inlet]

How so?

The gender stuff is obviously harder than English, but the tenses are a lot fewer in number

So I feel like German and English are relatively even

🤔

It’s not that, I’m just surprised because der die das is usually first thing on everyone’s list for how German’s difficult

The split verbs are kinda weird I guess

Especially coming from an English speaking background

[sudden panther]

@tiny violet heyo could you DM me when you catch some time, regarding you know what, no rush.

[merry inlet]

Admin being sus 👀

I’m not sure what about word order you’re finding a pain then to be honest 😆

It’s just patterns really

How so xD

[modest tundra]

English is incredibly easy to learn

German is a lot harder

[lethal parrot]

dont do it

[strong stratus]

@frigid ether @blissful jasper please only write German in #german-only. If you wanna have a conversation in an other language use #other-languages.
Anyways, welcome on the server! I would suggest reading #getting-started, if you are unsure how everything works here

[frigid ether]

ок

[merry inlet]

One thing I've noticed in common with both languages is that speakers of neither language are confident with pronunciation of the other xD

Like the accents are so different that it's easy to stand out and have it be obvious that it's not your first language

[modest tundra]

I never had pronounciation issues.. neither did my friends

You can pronounce everything correctly and still have an accent. These are not mutually exclusive

[near belfry]

Hello guys

[full osprey]

Hey y'all

[sage kayak]

Thanks @hot cloak ~

[hot cloak]

lmao i had a 10 second moment of "so this is how blockchain now operates"

[sage kayak]

[hot cloak]

actually the first christmas art post would probably make more money as an nft than anything else

[sage kayak]

Shut up an mine

[hot cloak]

sigh back to the grind

[sage kayak]

[worthy blaze]

Hello

I from turkey 🇹🇷

[balmy fossil]

guten morgen

[river heart]

Meine Schwester ist Ärgerlich mich :/

Warum?

Ich bin von das Epos B)

(I am of the epic)

[slender nimbus]

I used to love making minigolf courses with windmills in minecraft

but for the spinny thing on the top of the windmill

I used questionable shape

[hot cloak]

i am still amazed conversations are made here

[fringe ocean]

They are?

[hot cloak]

yes

suprisingly

[fringe ocean]

Unbelievable

[stoic arrow]

Hey. Gibt es jemanden, der auf Deutsch chatten möchte? DM me!

[slender nimbus]

its easier to get one going because it doesnt get much traction

[sudden panther]

@somber carbon great submission, I really like it.

[somber carbon]

thank you, the poster I worked on shows the german community of this server as gingerbread cookies on christmas day! and how we are happy and feeling excited for that day

[hot cloak]

@somber carbondid you submit a christmas note or something for the talent show?

[somber carbon]

Talent show? wdym?

[hot cloak]

ah i see you created a picture

[somber carbon]

yeah I did

I thought you were talking about a singing show

lol

[hot cloak]

oh no lol. I just meant this contest hosted by elf

but yeah good entry i will try to do something as well

[somber carbon]

idk tbh with mines

my poster doesn't look good tbh

but I tried my best 🙂

[hot cloak]

it's good don't be to harsh on yourself

[fringe ocean]

Dead chat

[dusky kindle]

/lh

[hot cloak]

vielendank sonic!

he's right

[urban shale]

Hii

[orchid forge]

Warum spricht man auf Anglisch, wenn man auf Deutsch sprechen kann > #german-only :)

[potent steppe]

Dead chat

[halcyon lava]

Mein Name ist

Ei

IE

Reisen

Sehen

Auf wieder sehen

Auf Wiedersehen

[slender nimbus]

I got muted for calling myself a pussy?

in another server

I didn't violate any rules by doing that though

[potent steppe]

That's sad.

[slender nimbus]

their mod bot is kinda dumb lol

to be fair it is kind of hard to differentiate pussy from pussy for a bot

[potent steppe]

Be smart. Use Russian р

[shadow bramble]

hello

[sudden panther]

Very nice art Sööps @short elk, good job.

[short elk]

Thank you

[balmy stratus]

can anyone think of a single word which ends in /g/, /b/, or /d/ in which the penultimate phoneme is not voiced

[hot cloak]

in english?

[balmy stratus]

in german

[hot cloak]

@dawn addertup

[hot cloak]

not rn

[craggy marsh]

arrem being nice

[sudden panther]

I am quite literally always nice. Except to trash people who don't deserve it like @sage kayak. 😔

[balmy stratus]

im honestly kinda convinced it doesnt exist

it's always either a vowel, n, or l

yeah if someone finds something feel free to ping me

otherwise im giving up

[slender nimbus]

spongebob meets his past self is for kids?!

they talk about dicks in that video lol

or they mention them

[sage kayak]

Yeah, I can attest to this

[hot cloak]

that means you see me as a trash person?

[merry inlet]

Bulli: "I'm not a native English speaker!"
Also Bulli: can use the word attest in a sentence

[pseudo lava]

Is this hard in english?

[merry inlet]

“Attest” is a pretty advanced word yeah

I’ve only heard it a few times in my entire life, and I suspect quite a few natives wouldn’t know what it means fully (especially when by itself like that)

[hardy anchor]

Native speakers of languages often know fuck all

[muted bane]

https://tenor.com/view/gab-gaming-gif-21697877

[dusky kindle]

I mean, you don’t need to be a native speaker to be fluent in a language.

[worldly edge]

I give up

[sage kayak]

[slender nimbus]

my english is slowly dwindling

[merry inlet]

Mine's getting worse too

I saw the word "sawn" today and had to remind myself of its existence

[hot cloak]

💀

[bright fog]

#p morad salam

[hot cloak]

My english is degrading itself to the point where i get confused on word positioniong

[late yarrow]

I keep saying sentences backwards after I practice

[exotic falcon]

Sexo

[hot cloak]

sexooo!

[gaunt terrace]

Sexo

[strong stratus]

@hot cloak to answer your question: I'm able to read Cyrillic, but my Russian vocabulary is really limited
Since my grandparents are the last ones who actually speak Russian, I didn’t grow up with it

[hot cloak]

ah kk that's quite interesting

[warm summit]

KKKKK

[sturdy harness]

kennt sich denn niemand mit tichlerei aus

schreiner geht auch?

[merry inlet]

Sorry if this is rude but are you okay with English corrections?

I’m happy to, if it helps :D

[warm summit]

@hot cloak Brazilianisches Lächeln, wenn es KKK wäre dann bestände aus 3 K (das ist nicht jedoch der Fall meiner Schrift)

@merry inlet Ich weiß ich bin er nicht, aber ich würd gern wissen, ob er Fehler gemacht hat

hab keinen gesehen 🤔

[left jolt]

@warm summit i didn't grow* up with it

Since my grandparents were* / or since my grandparents are the last ones who actually speak*

Sonst alles gut

[warm summit]

ooh

[strong stratus]

It’s not rude, thank you for asking! Was the "grew/grow" thing the mistake you found?

Oh, es steht da ja sogar

[merry inlet]

Yeah xD That and the space in the word "grandparents"

Personally I would've said "My grandparents are the last people in my family to learn Russian; I didn't grow up with them, so I'm not very familiar (with it)". I think this way would be a bit more natural perhaps

[left jolt]

Since my grandparents were the last ones to actually speak Russian, I wasn't able to grow up with it nor learn it through family

thats what id say

[merry inlet]

Since my grandparents were
I think the intended implication of the original message was that they're still alive, but they just simply didn't grow up with them

[left jolt]

I see that too but also feel that the "were" depicts the ending of the line of family speaking russian

Thats how I use it but "are" is good too probably better

[raven prawn]

Ich bin neu hier

[pseudo lava]

Willkommen! Les dir am besten mal #getting-started durch, da findest du sinnvolle Hinweise :D

[spiral mesa]

Just want to ask a little question, what is the difference between saying - "Nein Idee" and "keine Ahnung"?

[grand ferry]

It means the same thing. it´s just a different way of saying that you dont know sth or you dont have an idea. Btw "nein Idee" is wrong it´s "keine Idee" and you have to put "keine Idee" in a sentence like "Ich habe keine Idee.". When you say "keine Ahnung" it´s not necessary to put it in a sentence

[hot cloak]

gamer moment

[pure bronze]

@autumn matrix Es gab Suppe, Hirschroulade, Nudeln, Semmelrolle, Wurzelsoße, Schokoladencreme und Kekse

[autumn matrix]

[shadow bramble]

hallo

[hot cloak]

hi,wie gehts

[hot cloak]

anyone in berlin wanna get a drink ?

[shadow bramble]

me no

[shadow bramble]

u can get me soda instead

[hot cloak]

aight dm then

[pearl heron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471478356156743703/922973041917558795/267992880_1059880654806859_86815999091406118_n.mp4

[hot cloak]

catchier than most pop songs

[sharp lantern]

@chrome copper you were muted by the bot for typing the same message in every chat and it counted as spam. i've unmuted you but try to avoid doing that

[pseudo lava]

He's muted again

[sharp lantern]

indeed

[arctic atlas]

@midnight coral bist das du ?

[midnight coral]

Natürlich bin ich das. 😂 Das habe ich bei einem von Ecolinguists Videos geschrieben.

[arctic atlas]

Loool

[atomic folio]

Wo ist das?

[arctic atlas]

Gerade zufällig durch die kommentare gescrollt und das gesehen :D

[midnight coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3tOGE3rNCs

[atomic folio]

Danke

[arctic atlas]

Kleine welt 😌

[midnight coral]

Es passiert mir recht häufig, dass ich auf YouTube kommentiere und manchmal bekomme ich sogar recht viele Upvotes. 😂

[midnight coral]

Jeder benutzt halt YouTube. 🤷‍♂️

[arctic atlas]

Ja aber dass ich da in einem zufällig ausgewählten video jemanden in den kommentaren sehe den ich kenne ist mir bisher noch nicht passiert lmao

[midnight coral]

Es ist nicht einmal das erste Mal, dass jemand aus diesem Server mich auf YouTube sieht. 😂

Ich glaube mich daran zu erinnern, dass es irgendwann auch schon mal passiert ist.

[atomic folio]

Da wird kommentiert

Also Niederländisch kann man noch verstehen find ich

Schwedisch nicht

[midnight coral]

Ja, genau. Das habe ich ja bei meinem Kommentar gemeint.

[fringe tartan]

Sie spricht recht standard Schwedisch

[atomic folio]

Ich such den noch

[midnight coral]

Es ist fast unmöglich, Schwedisch als deutscher Muttersprachler zu verstehen, ohne es vorher zu lernen.

[arctic atlas]

Schwedisch klingt süß aber bis auf ein paar wörter nichts verstanden

[fringe tartan]

Aber ihr versteht Norwegisch?

[atomic folio]

Eher net

[midnight coral]

Ich konnte ihn etwas besser verstehen als die Schwedin.

[hot cloak]

xDD

[arctic atlas]

Verstehen ist übertrieben aber besser als schwedisch

[atomic folio]

Niederländisch geht, da vertseht man soagr recht viel

Norwegisch ist so lala, Swedisch ist wie französisch

[midnight coral]

Ich spreche Französisch auf C1-Niveau, also würde ich das sowieso verstehen. 😂

[hot cloak]

ist dein portugiesisch auch gut?

[midnight coral]

Ich rede es jeden Tag mit meinen Eltern.

[fringe tartan]

Huh, that Norwegian was quite easy for me to understand

[hot cloak]

nice 🙂

[midnight coral]

Isn't it trivial to understand Norwegian if you speak Swedish? 🤔

[fringe tartan]

Wie Französisch?

[fringe tartan]

Depends on the dialect

[atomic folio]

Joa, ich lerns noch, und lass es lieber

[midnight coral]

Which dialect is the easiest to understand? Oslo?

[fringe tartan]

Yeah, the more eastern, the easier

Northern dialects are honestly also easier to understand cuz they sound like northern Swedish dialects

But there are Swedes that can't even understand the most basic Norwegian 🙄 damn rookies

[midnight coral]

Hmm, that reminds me of the relationship between Spanish and Portuguese speakers. Portuguese speakers can understand Spanish speakers much better than Spanish speakers can understand Portuguese speakers, and it also varies heavily from dialect to dialect.

If you know a thing or two about the different phonologies of these languages, it makes perfect sense. Spanish sounds like Portuguese with vowels as they are written, whereas Portuguese is like Spanish with mumbled vowels.

[fringe tartan]

I believe Norwegians understand Swedish better cuz they're more exposed to it than the other way around. Norwegians watch Swedish TV and stuff, but the reversed pretty much doesn't happen

Traurig

[midnight coral]

There is a similar case where that happens within the same language. European Portuguese speakers have almost no trouble at all understanding Brazilian Portuguese, since they're exposed to it all the time. Brazilians, however, have a hard time understanding the Portuguese because they have very little exposure to them.

[fringe tartan]

Huh, interesting

Americans not understanding british dialects

[midnight coral]

It's a similar dynamic to Scottish English vs American English in that regard.

Yep.

[midnight coral]

Though at least you hear British accents all the time in American media. That isn't the case at all for Brazilian media. European Portuguese is basically non-existent there.

[fringe tartan]

Oh, I see

[keen otter]

its not only about exposure, european portuguese has weird sounds that make understanding harder for non-portuguese speakers too

[midnight coral]

Yeah, but it's nothing you couldn't get used to with more exposure to it. European Portuguese was almost unintelligible to me as a Brazilian kid, but now I can understand it just fine.

[keen otter]

its funny, when i was in brazil they told me i spoke like a portuguese and when i was in portugal they told me i spoke like a brasilian

[fringe tartan]

A danish girl started at my little sister's school and she can't understand anyone and noone can understand her lol

[fringe tartan]

When you spoke Spanish?

[keen otter]

i spoke portuguese

[midnight coral]

So maybe you were speaking with an Angolan accent then. It sounds to me like a cross between Brazilian and European Portuguese.

[keen otter]

ive heard angolans and they do sound similar to me

[midnight coral]

Which accent are you trying to go for anyway?

[stuck orbit]

north

[midnight coral]

It's also a common phenomenon for English learners, who often end up sounding oddly Mid-Atlantic.

[keen otter]

im not trying to go for any accent, im cherry picking things from portugal and brasil

just like i do with english

[midnight coral]

No wonder they told you that then. 😂

[hot cloak]

Anyone here from berlin

[wind rapids]

ICH IST NITCH AUS BERLIN

ich komme aus schweden

ich learnst deutch in schule

ich ist nitch so gut

[dense anvil]

Hey, ich auch nicht. Aber, es ist alles gut!

[fallow fable]

Finally decided to start learning German again. Then I realized I totally forgot everything.
Frick.

[last vortex]

sameee

[slender nimbus]

roses are red
anybody named maria?
I will become north korea

[fringe ocean]

@opal sequoia better?

[opal sequoia]

Ja, danke.

[hot cloak]

Hat berlin gute döner?

[pseudo lava]

Kommt drauf an wo, aber ziemlich oft

[hot cloak]

die besten im land?

[pseudo lava]

Nee, hab schon mal besseren gegessen

[slender nimbus]

I just tried to blow my nose and the air went out my fucking ear

[grizzled plinth]

Nein eigentlich aus Türkei

Achso und die Leute dachten sich wir geben ein Türkischen namen

Wer alles google glaubt

[hushed fable]

hi

[merry inlet]

Hello :D

[hushed fable]

Hi @merry inlet your profilpigture is very beautiful

[merry inlet]

Thanks so much!!

[hushed fable]

from wich anime is this?

[merry inlet]

Violet Evergarden :)

[hushed fable]

oh sounds intressting, thx

[merry inlet]

Kein Problem 😆

[hollow ferry]

Hallo, ich bin haru, wie geht´s

[strong stratus]

Willkommen Haru!

[fervent flax]

Hallo hallo

[hollow ferry]

danke

[hot cloak]

achso

hab gehört es wurde von einem türken der in deutschland lebt erfunden

wusste nicht dass er aus berlin war

Das ist mir auch neu

ja ich weiß eh was du meinst. Hab zb in frankreich oder england auch döner gegessen und die waren einfach viel schlechter

genau

scheiß quality und hoher preis

aber welche stadt in deutschland hat den besten döner?

ist eh berlin oder?

Hier in Wien gibt es ein Dönerstand der Berliner Döner heißt und der ist der beliebteste in der ganzen Stadt. Die haben dort ca. 8 Mitarbeiter in diesem Stand und die machen deinen Döner in einer minute fertig

es gibt dort immer eine sehr lange schlange

[worldly edge]

Aus Wien kommste?

[tiny wigeon]

hallo

[hushed fable]

hii

[toxic widget]

Wie geht es ihr

[hot cloak]

gut dir

[slender nimbus]

how did an abjad become a character based language

[shadow bramble]

hallo

whats up guys

[dapper folio]

Hallo!

[lost dagger]

hallo gluten Tag

Toter Chat :(((

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-chat-chats-cat-crazy-gif-17561915

[hot cloak]

😂

[pure bronze]

.

[hot cloak]

[junior hornet]

Hallo alle

[river heart]

Hallo !

Was machst du?

[untold lagoon]

Hallo wie geht's

[hot cloak]

Mir gehst es sehr gut. Danke schön. Und du?

[hushed fable]

Mir auch

[hot cloak]

😁

[hardy anchor]

Mir geht* es sehr gut. Danke schön. Und dir*?

[hot cloak]

Oops 💀 I’m blind y’all

Thank you for correcting me

[lost dagger]

Hello, is this the number for tech support?

I have a PDF where the pages don’t really line up with the pages of the document, so half of the page (sheet music in this case) is on one page of the pdf and the other half of the sheet is on the next page. Is there an easy way to copy/merge those onto one page?

[uneven oriole]

why is it dir and not du?

Spiritual unfortunately I don’t think there is an easy way to do that. I would maybe try converting into a word document and then back into a pdf but I’ve never tried messing with sheet music and I don’t know that word would recognize it. did you create the pdf?

[lost dagger]

Thanks anyway! I didn’t create the pdf.

[lost dagger]

it’s du because the phrase is “es geht [mir/dir/euch/ihnen/ihm/ihr] [gut/schlecht etc.]” always takes dative

and the “und dir?” Is a shortening for “und wie geht es dir?” Since that’s what it’s in response to

I can’t explain very well 😦

[uneven oriole]

haha no problem. that makes sense, thanks

[dapper folio]

Hallo!

Wie geht es allen?

[tiny violet]

tried my new espresso machine its great

[lost dagger]

oo so exciting!

my mom broke my French press lol so no coffee for me

[haughty edge]

Hallo

[dapper folio]

Thats nice to hear :D

[autumn matrix]

yum yum send pics of espresso

[tiny violet]

i will on my next cup : ) none of my mugs are the right size, i want to get a big latte mug

[autumn matrix]

do you have a milk frother?

[tiny violet]

the machine has one yeah!

[autumn matrix]

woo cappuccino and latte time

[tiny violet]

yesss now that i work from home i will actually have time to make coffee at home

[autumn matrix]

my parents espresso machine has one but since it has a relatively small internal tank that it heats, it's not very good at frothing

since it can only make enough steam for like 200ml of milk

great for solo ig

[tiny violet]

someday i do want to get a fancy one, but this one was a gift and will do the job just nicely

[autumn matrix]

i want a coffee now but its midnight

yeah once it's not instant coffee i am usually happy

[tiny violet]

yeah not a great time for coffee lmao

[chrome scaffold]

sa

sa

sa

[hot cloak]

Was los mit dir?

[final anvil]

Guten Tag alle! I’m really looking forward to being able to ask a few questions to improve my German even further and help those just starting out!

[copper garden]

thats nice

[strong stratus]

Welcome! We're glad to have you here
Don't hesitate to ask, if there are any questions & I hope you'll be able to improve your German here

[half lynx]

Me and my friend having a laugh over a pronunciation mistake I made with “pizza” in German vs English (he’s the one recording). Spent like a minute trying to replicate it and kept laughing our asses off while trying.

[random star]

Hallo Leute,
ich heiße Ayoub und ich möchte einen Freund, wo kann Deutsch.
Ich habe nur a1 Niveau

[subtle laurel]

Cool. Wie lange lernst du, @random star?

[random star]

Seit drei Monaten@subtle laurel

[hot cloak]

Ich lern seit 13 jahren deutsch (mein ganzes leben xD)

[opal sequoia]

@strong glacier Please try to avoid spamming or the bot will mute you.

[strong glacier]

Oh sorry

[opal sequoia]

You can check out #getting-started for advice and there are beginner resource recommendations in the resource list.

faq resources

[rocky goblet]

Resources

https://bit.ly/gladresources

[lost dagger]

Words With Friends kennt keine Gnade 😦

[hot cloak]

[left jolt]

des wa lusti

[pale carbon]

someone renamed me stop this

can someone fix it?

[arctic atlas]

you probably participated in the christmas event, you can just reset your nickname

[atomic folio]

Hi

[hot cloak]

Hi

[ornate mango]

Hi

[uneven oriole]

does anyone watch Stromberg?

[wintry trail]

idk it

[uneven oriole]

ah. seems like The Office but German

[drowsy copper]

@random star hallo

[ivory grove]

hi

hallo

[tardy lily]

hi

[hoary gale]

hola

[limpid marsh]

Hello

[hushed fable]

hi

[limpid marsh]

How are you?

[hushed fable]

I'm fine you?

[limpid marsh]

good, a little tired.

[hushed fable]

oh, to long awake?

[limpid marsh]

yes, I was really tired yesterday as well, because I could not sleep and just decided to get up at 5

[hushed fable]

oh, why you can't sleep?

[limpid marsh]

I was really hot and really hungry

I did take a nap later though

[hushed fable]

good

[hushed fable]

you was hot or you feel hot? idk haha i just mean, my english is so bad...

[limpid marsh]

Thats fine! I felt hot because I forgot to turn off my heater and it was up really high.

[hushed fable]

oh ok can I ask you, from where you comme?

[limpid marsh]

I'm from Canada

and you?

[hushed fable]

oh wow Canada is so beautiful

Switzerland

[limpid marsh]

Nice! My mother went there one time I think, and she said it was nice there

[hushed fable]

yes, I mean the mountains are nice but here, where I life, it's a little bit boring

[limpid marsh]

Oh, thats too bad... Also what language do they speak there? I forgot

I have to go, sorry. Have a nice day!

[hushed fable]

np, thanks also to you, bye

[hushed fable]

Swissgerman haha

[limpid marsh]

Ok, I'm back

[hushed fable]

hii

[copper barn]

Hello there

[limpid marsh]

Oh right, I think I remember my mother saying that they speak German there.

[hushed fable]

but, it's not the German, like they speek in Germany

[copper barn]

german is better than this xD

[limpid marsh]

Yes, she said its slightly different. I think her native language is German but he forgot it after a while when she learned English at school

[hushed fable]

idk, for peoples who aren't from switzerland it's difficult to understand

[limpid marsh]

Also hello, Dose

[copper barn]

Hey

[hushed fable]

your mothers native is German?

[hushed fable]

No French name here?

[copper barn]

i can change them back xD

[limpid marsh]

Yes, but she forgot most of it. She said she can pick it up when she hears it

[copper barn]

How long is she away from Germany?

[limpid marsh]

Her mother is from Germany but moved to Canada during WW2 and my mother learned it from her

[copper barn]

ah, I understand

[hushed fable]

i know

[limpid marsh]

So Erdiina, your native is (Swiss)German?

[hushed fable]

yes

[limpid marsh]

Nice

[copper barn]

AustriaGeman is bad too

It´s like you mixed a "Bayrer" with a people from Austria

[hushed fable]

ye

[hushed fable]

ok haha

[limpid marsh]

Whats a "Bayrer"?

[copper barn]

A people from Munich and around

[limpid marsh]

Ohh ok

[copper barn]

Bavarian people

[limpid marsh]

I'll be right back,

Ok, I'm back

[hushed fable]

hii

[limpid marsh]

Hello again!

[hushed fable]

hi another time haha

[limpid marsh]

lol

So is Dose still here?

[hushed fable]

I don't think

@limpid marsh you're a youtuber?

[limpid marsh]

Yes,(I dont have much subs though)

[hushed fable]

should I abo you?

[limpid marsh]

what does abo mean?

[hushed fable]

subscribe?

[limpid marsh]

Ohh, sure! also, If you do watch my videos, I recommend the newer ones, my older ones have no editing and are boring.

also, how to did find out that I'm a youtuber?

[limpid marsh]

Ohh, right

Hang on, someones pinging me. I'll be right back

Ok, I'm back

[hushed fable]

hi i subscribe you

[limpid marsh]

Thanks!

[hushed fable]

yw

[limpid marsh]

I have to go and make breakfast. Have a great day!

[hushed fable]

thx bye, have fun

[tardy palm]

@lavish minnow there are for sure times where I wouldn’t use one over the other. It’s a hard thing to explain because there are like gee idk 5 million different contexts we could discuss 🥸

It’s hard to sum it all up in another way other than just that sometimes you can use both words without being disrespectful.

[lavish minnow]

That's true, but I think generally speaking their age group should be a pretty good indicator as to which is more appropriate.

Sometimes, definitely.

[tardy palm]

It’s pretty difficult to explain though and probably just a feeling I have developed for it having grown up where I have.

It might also be generational, who knows

[hot cloak]

how do i make

a ticke?

to mods

[pure bronze]

use #report-issue

[hot cloak]

sh§t bro i got muted for rejecting someone who wanted homosexual sex with me

[tardy palm]

@hot cloak @flat palm https://youtu.be/fjWjpvozN4A in case you’re curious how it sounds this is a good example.

[hot cloak]

thank you, that's cool

godamn that intro

pure fcking gold

[flat palm]

That intro was pure ASMR until he spoke haha

[hot cloak]

lmaoooo

[flat palm]

Yeah, I'm not getting much of anything haha. It sounds like slurred German >_>

[hot cloak]

I love how half of the sentences end with "hä?"

[flat palm]

This is cool. It weaves in and out of understandable, like he hits a button at random

[tardy palm]

a lot of those words I only know because of my IRL experience too

Like when he says „gell“ it’s a regional word for „ne/oder?“

[flat palm]

Damn yeah those little titbits are invaluable. I doubt I'd pick up on that in the wild

[hot cloak]

only understood sentences here and there

[tardy palm]

There are sentences where I understand 50-70% of the individual words but without the rest I’m lost

I understand him pretty well but there’s a few times where I had zero clue what he said at all as well 😂

[flat palm]

Listening is my weakest skill at the best of times (i.e. when language is the standard, primarily-taught register), so I'm definitely buggered on this one

[tardy palm]

What is your current German level like?

[flat palm]

Much worse than it used to be. I learned for a couple years, but that was nearly 10 years ago, stopped for years to concentrate on work, just restarted maybe a couple months ago. I've not assessed my level yet, working on pulling all my old progress back together first

A lot of the grammar stuck with me surprisingly well actually; it's the vocabulary primarily that trickled out

And that's kinda the fundamental building block for knowing WTF people are saying 😛

[tardy palm]

Imo vocabulary can be just as if not harder than grammar

Though grammar often intertwines with vocabulary, for example „sich etwas holen“, you not only need to understand each individual word, but also the grammatical rules behind a reflexive verb with both a dative and accusative object.

[flat palm]

Definitely so for me. I love grammar actually. Nothing motivates me to learn a language more than grammar (tied with phonology). Vocabulary always just feels like a slog though, as essential as it is

[tardy palm]

Tbh that’s sorta how I feel

I‘m a wee bit better with grammar than vocabulary, which I could probably fix if I consumed more in German, but mostly I just talk to people.

My vocabulary is pretty good, but sometimes I find myself not knowing something basic which I should have and I question how the hell I never knew it.

I‘m at a point though where when actually just talking to people I almost never need to look something up or ask what something means

But when I try reading literature I need to do a bit more of looking stuff up

[flat palm]

My big problem is that I am studying as a hobby and don't have the time to put, well, time into consuming. Mainly I read when I can (accompanied with an audiobook to try to get some semblance of listening in). I got back into German a couple months back just because I missed it so much. It's frustrating though when I know how much more easily I used to be able to read without having to constantly look things up, compared to now with so much bigger gaps in my vocabulary

[tardy palm]

Even native speakers can start to forget some of their language if they move somewhere else, but it’s less influential the older one is.

[flat palm]

I remember reading an article about that. That must mess with your head in a big way O_o

[tardy palm]

It’s also comforting to know most people are either mono- or bilingual, multilingualism is very rare.

[flat palm]

People who have no truly native language due to the circumstances of their life and all that

Monolingualism is super dominant in Scotland. It's kind of sad tbh

[tardy palm]

I met a guy with very interesting, rare circumstances on this server.

[flat palm]

Especially with the people who throw abuse at those who speak Gaelic here; they're like monolingual as a personality trait

[tardy palm]

He doesn’t consider himself to have a native language because he grew up in a Russian-speaking household, in Germany, while also attending an „international-school“ where everything was taught in English.

[flat palm]

Huh, interesting

[tardy palm]

A native speaker is usually someone who grows up not only speaking it with their parents, but with literally everyone

[flat palm]

He considers himself not to have a native language, rather than being multilingual native?

[tardy palm]

So it’s a really odd case

[tardy palm]

He said word for word „I don’t consider myself to have a native language“ as far as I can remember

But honestly I don’t see why he couldn’t just say he has three native languages

[tardy palm]

I never understood that it’s almost like racism but with languages

[flat palm]

That's interesting. You know, actually, my first language was Irish, but I couldn't call it my native language (because, well, my mum stopped speaking to me in it by like 6 years old and we went back to Ireland less and less, so there was no exposure; I remember barely a word these days). But on the island my mum comes from, kids are raised speaking Irish until 5 or 6 before being taught English.

[tardy palm]

In the USA where I‘m from there are quite a lot of bilingual speakers of Spanish and English, basically people whose parents are Mexican but they themselves were not born in Mexico.

[flat palm]

Yeah it's messed up. Scotland has a lot of problems that are sort of, well, we usually branch it all under sectarianism. Parts of Scotland are like Northern Ireland-lite in terms of the cultural divisions

[tardy palm]

And it’s kind of fascinating how they speak fluent Spanish to each other but then they have a very American accent in English

[tardy palm]

Isn‘t Irish sort of dying as well?

[flat palm]

It's definitely on the downturn, but the Irish in the island we come from is strong, probably in part thanks to it being an island. Super tight-knit community

Gaelic here in Scotland is in a far worse state though. People overstate how hard it is to come across though. I think they're just oblivious a lot of the time due to not being attuned to it.

[tardy palm]

Huh, that‘s all very interesting. How different is that dialect from what your dad was actually speaking though?

[tardy palm]

It’s a real shame that it was discriminated against due to colonialism, same thing with the Americas and it’s native people. There used to be hundreds of languages spoken by them here, many still exist but are spoken by nearly nobody in comparison to before it was colonized. Lots of those languages completed died out.

[tardy palm]

Come across in what sense?

[flat palm]

Well it wasn't full on standard English. Given similarities between Irish and Scottish English, we didn't have to go all the way standard. But the local dialect is a lot thicker (more Scots than Scottish English), many more traditional words and such. My mum even to this day still struggles with thicker speakers (typically very working class, out in the outskirts rather than from a town/city proper). I understand entirely but I can only speak it in a more diffuse form (Scots to Scottish English is on sort of a spectrum, with different speakers speaking somewhere on that spectrum based on their background; nobody these days speaks pure Scots unless doing so in the pursuit of Scots literary history), not personally using some words from my local dialect just because they don't feel natural. I do speak thickly enough that I have to work hard for my American cousins to understand me easily when I speak though

[flat palm]

Just in the wild. I often overhear it wondering about in a town of city for example. Far from everyday, but it's certainly not dead. That said, I know what to listen for. I'm sure many people would presume it's just some other language (a friend of mine heard a Gaelic speaker once and said it was Dutch). People think you specifically have to go to some specific place to find it, and that is true in the sense that you can't rely on stumbling into it, but it does exist in the wild

[civic spruce]

.

[flat palm]

Absolutely, yeah that shit always makes me a wee bit depressed. There's inevitably a cultural loss when a language is lost to boot.

Hell, even dialects just have unique qualities when it comes to stories, poems, etc. If you've ever tried converting a Scots poem to standard English, as I've done for a laugh once, even if you convey the same thing and use correspondingly appropriate English, it might well have its own charms, but the charms won't be the same

[tardy palm]

I’ve always wondered actually whether there’s a Scottish dialect that exists, somewhere in some village in the middle of nowhere, that I can’t even understand. It would be quite fascinating if there is, because it’s really a rarity for English, whereas with many other languages it’s quite common. I’ve heard with Arabic, literally nobody speaks standard at all, everyone speaks some thick dialect, and if you try speaking standard to them (and do it really well) it’s almost intimidating to them since they are way better at their dialect than the standardized Arabic.

But in the English speaking world, it’s so rare to actually hear someone speaking a dialect you can hardly understand.

[tardy palm]

Gaelic itself is Germanic though is it not

I funnily enough have a coworker whose family speaks Gaelic, so I think he’s sort of like a heritage-speaker, but he’s probably better at English.

[flat palm]

Have you visited Scotland? If you visit some of the poorer towns, I'd wager you'd find plenty you can't understand. I have my moments myself 😛

[flat palm]

Gaelic is Celtic; it's very close to Irish (some speakers insist they're still the same language, although some insist they're not. And most don't care :P)

[tardy palm]

I can understand exactly what you mean being able to easily understand German and English. Each one has its certain words or phrases, which although can be translated, carry no where near the level of charm as in the opposing language.

[tardy palm]

Does anyone consider it to be an „Irish dialect“?

[tardy palm]

Never

Honestly I love the Scottish accent, I think it’s my second favorite next to Australian.

[flat palm]

Hmm, not sure, but Irish is a pluricentric language (maybe a little like your Arabic example) there is a "book Irish" which is taught in schools and such, but there are three major organic (for want of a better word) dialects of Irish. Would seem natural for their to be a fourth (or however many more for major Scottish dialects) major dialect. Irish is the parent language, with Gaelic having come from Ireland, so I'd suppose it'd be natural to consider it an Irish dialect (but then, Gaelic is the English cognate of the Irish word for the language, so honestly I'm none the wiser 😛 )

Damn you've got me trying to pick out my favourite accents. Not actually thought about it. I'm a sucker for accents though.

[tardy palm]

This is a whole other topic but does Ireland have its own kind of alcohol it’s proud of just like Scotland has?

Scotland‘s being whiskey ofc

[flat palm]

Ahh, you've committed the cardinal sin there

Scotland is proud of its whisky, whereas Ireland is proud of its whiskey

_>

[tardy palm]

Lmao

[flat palm]

It's more of a meme than anything, but a lot of Scots will point out when someone misspells whisky that comes from our country because we don't have the 'e' 😛

[tardy palm]

I know nothing about that spelling-difference

It looks downright weird to write whiskey as whisky to me

But thanks for correcting me, hopefully that sin can be forgiven 😂

[flat palm]

Haha, but yeah, Ireland does have a strong whiskey tradition (in fact, despite Scotland having taken the reins in terms of whisky reputation, I believe it originated in Ireland)

Don't quote me on that though

[tardy palm]

I feel like me having learned German makes me so conscientious of terms that ought to have a hyphen in them like I just did there with spelling-difference (because German loves making massive words by smashing smaller words together) in German a spelling-difference is also smushed together, Rechtschreibungsunterschied 😂

[tardy palm]

I was hoping it had something entirely different from whisky

[flat palm]

Haha, sorry to disappoint. The word whisky is from the Irish/Gaelic language btw, if you didn't know

From the word for water 😛

[tardy palm]

Doesn’t surprise me

[flat palm]

uisge - pronounced /ɯʃgʲə/

[tardy palm]

Actually I’ve heard Whisky is actually one of the most healthy kinds of alcohol you can drink

I think I read it helps fight heart disease or something crazy like that

[flat palm]

Hmm... can I take that as medical advice? 🙂

[tardy palm]

Quite interesting honestly

I mean come on it’s alcohol

[flat palm]

Interesting. I'll have to rethink my diet. 😛

[tardy palm]

I haven’t had proper whisky before, only bourbon

[flat palm]

I'm far from a connoisseur , I stick mostly with a couple of brands I like, nothing particularly specialist.

[tardy palm]

This is probably pretty offensive, but some people here think bourbon is true whisky xD

Afaik bourbon is based off of corn

[flat palm]

Honestly I was confused there, I had to look up bourbon. It's not a term we really use here

[tardy palm]

Tbh same but I will try something if someone recommends it

[flat palm]

So is Jack Daniels a bourbon?

[tardy palm]

It’s kind of like an American hick‘s version of whisky tbh

Yeah it is

[flat palm]

Haha, is it a decent representation? Because it might be my only meaningful experience of it 😛

[tardy palm]

That‘s why it‘s a „Tennessee whisky“

It’s actually really good honestly

Imo

But people often mix it like with coke, which I’m told with „true whisky“ you aren’t sUPppoSed To dO lmao

[flat palm]

Haha, I feel like this is an elitist attitude now that I think about it, but for mixing drinks, we only mix foreign whiskeys with drinks (like Jack & Coke). I don't know anyone who'd ever mix a Scottish whisky with a drink

[tardy palm]

I should seek out a so-called true whisky and see if I can even tell the difference

[potent steppe]

Gute Nacht

[tardy palm]

It is, I kinda don’t like that about it

[runic garden]

You can 🤷‍♀️

[tardy palm]

Like honestly as long as they enjoy and/or consume it and it isn’t wasted, who cares?

[runic garden]

Maybe it was just strength for me but theres a difference between the high grade and lower grade stuff

[tardy palm]

Is it kind of like the difference between low and high-grade wine?

[runic garden]

Yeah you can tell there too

[tardy palm]

Because cheap wine is absolutely disgusting

[runic garden]

But does that stop me drinking cheap grog, no

[flat palm]

I think even within Scottish whiskies you can taste differences quite easily (and drastically in some cases), nevermind between Scottish and foreign whiskies (whatever variety they might be)

[runic garden]

Oh actually i had an Australian white that actually tasted like urine i dont recommend

[flat palm]

Of course it'll be about production technique in the end

[tardy palm]

In Germany you can get a giant bottle of wine for 2€ but it’s the crappiest wine you’ve ever tasted, it’s not meant to taste good, just to f you up.

[runic garden]

We have something like that here too

Its called little fat lamb and its reeeeaaaalllllly bad

But high percentage

[tardy palm]

Best German-wine ever is Glühwein doe

It’s served warm, it‘s often sold at Christmas markets

It’s like a Christmas drink tbh

[flat palm]

Oh, have you ever heard of Buckfast? It's an infamous fortified wine produced in the UK that is beloved by neds (think... gopniks if you know the slavic reference, common meme) all over Scotland. It's funny how trashy its reputation is, given that its origin of being produced by monks in an Abbey in England

[flat palm]

That sounds amazing actually

[runic garden]

Glühwein

Mein Lieber

[tardy palm]

It’s so good

[runic garden]

Nelken? Das ist mir ja neu

[tardy palm]

Uh no, is it horrible?

[runic garden]

Ich wusste nicht dass man auch sie reintut

[tardy palm]

Glühwein wird gewürzt, ist heilig

[runic garden]

Yeah but carnations

Its like a bitter flower

[flat palm]

Honestly, never tried it. I'm curious actually, but I was always put off by its reputation, as neds could be a nightmare if you clearly weren't one of them when I was growing up. I just wanted to know if it had any reputation outside of the UK. I don't even know if it's as popular elsewhere in the UK as in Scotland

[tardy palm]

I’ve never heard of that

Then again there are probably thousands of variations of drinks

[runic garden]

Ahhhhhhwarte mal

Nelken sind auch ein Gewürz

[tardy palm]

Jo

[runic garden]

Cloves auf Englisch

[lost dagger]

Nelken 😋

ich werde mir jetzt einen Tee mit Nelken machen.

[tardy palm]

btw if you like beer, when you go to Bavarian (or if) try Weißbier @flat palm

It’s a traditional Bavarian beer

I don’t like Beer that much myself but that’s an alright one, but some people really love it

[flat palm]

Hmm, scheint dass ich mehr Getränke mit Nelken ausprobieren muss. Kann mir Nelken in Tee oder Wein nicht vorstellen

[flat palm]

Noted, thanks for the tip. Trying new foods/drinks/etc. is the highlight of travelling for me 😛

[tardy palm]

I just don’t prefer the taste of beer in general though, like that rotten bread taste. Really anything else I am fine with. I know some Germans who even prefer wine over beer.

[flat palm]

I'm not the biggest fan either, but I still enjoy it on occasion. Feel like it's a mood thing for me. Honestly, rum is my go-to for a social drink

[tardy palm]

I would rather do tequila shots than drink beer also

[flat palm]

I've only ever had good nights when tequila's been involved so I'd take that option any day of the week

[tardy palm]

Do you remember what the first thing was you ever tried

[flat palm]

What, like first beer?

[tardy palm]

Lol, same

[tardy palm]

First alcoholic drink

What is the legal drinking age in Scotland

[flat palm]

Hmm... no, but I was a child (I should probably clarify that in Scotland, children can legally drink from 5 years old with supervision). I'd imagine it was probably wine, red wine at church or white wine from my gran 😛

[tardy palm]

What the fuck

[flat palm]

18 to buy, 16 to drink accompanied by a meal in a restaurant, 5 with supervision from an adult

[tardy palm]

Does anyone there realize what that can do to you when you’re still growing

That’s even crazier than in Germany

[flat palm]

Haha. I think the general understanding is that children have little more than a taste

I was satisfied with a sip from my gran's white wine glass. And of course you only ever take a sip in church 😛

[tardy palm]

Oh ok

[flat palm]

https://www.gov.uk/alcohol-young-people-law
"It’s illegal to give alcohol to children under 5."

[tardy palm]

I was gonna say that’s horrible for a 5 year old to have a whole drink

[flat palm]

Seems like it's a UK thing rather than just Scotland

Honestly I think the reason for such a young age is probably because of wine at church

[tardy palm]

Oh that’s one difference though

It says there you can’t drink it in public, is that right?

In Germany it’s perfectly legal to carry around a drink on the streets.

[flat palm]

The law on public drinking actually varies even between cities here, rather than nationally or regionally

IIRC Glasgow doesn't allow it, but Edinburgh does

Ah, it's a council-level decision, so it is regionally

[tardy palm]

Ah ok

I‘m pretty sure it’s just straight illegal everywhere in the States

You have to keep your open drinks in the house or a bar/club

[flat palm]

Glasgow used to be the knife-crime or violence capital of Europe or something like that, back in the 90s, so that's probably why that law came in there specifically

[analog stirrup]

Hi if I’m saying and you is it und du or und dir?

[tardy palm]

Highly context dependent

[flat palm]

Depends on the context. What is the question?

[analog stirrup]

Hello my name is fire fox and you

[tardy palm]

und du, in that case

[flat palm]

Und du in that case

_>

[analog stirrup]

what’s the difference

[tardy palm]

du is nominative, dir is dative

[flat palm]

It depends on what role you are playing in the sentence grammatically.

If you are the subject, i.e. you are the one who has the name, then "du" for nominative case

If you are the object, i.e. "wie geht's dir", how are you [how is it to you], then dir for dative

[analog stirrup]

So if I say what are you doing it’s dir?

and if I’m saying I am going to do this it’s du?

[tardy palm]

Although you wouldn’t actually say „und du“ in that case in German. More like „Mein name ist…., und wie heißt du?“

[tardy palm]

No

[flat palm]

Would still be the subject for "what are you doing". So the subject is the person "acting" the verb. What are YOU doing = YOU are the actor, who will be doing.

[tardy palm]

You have to understand the German case system to understand how to use du/dich/dir

The pronouns correspond directly to German cases

[flat palm]

Yeah

[tardy palm]

Yep

[analog stirrup]

What channel could I use to learn basics like everything and have lessons and stuff? 🙂

[flat palm]

This is one of those things that sound very confusing if you haven't tackled it yet, but it's honestly nowhere near as bad as it seems at first

[analog stirrup]

I have done a year of German and I rlly don’t know much but I wanna take it for GCSE that’s why I joined 🙂 btw

[tardy palm]

Honestly this server is for 1. asking questions 2. practicing what you learn. It’s easier to learn grammar from like YouTube, nobody here is a professional teacher.

[flat palm]

You can ask questions in the #questions or #questions-2 channel, people are very helpful. I'd find a book or online course to work through that deals with grammar, and ask here when you get stuck

[analog stirrup]

oh ok

Thank you guys your amazing

[flat palm]

Keep at it. It's satisfying when it clicks. And if it ever seems too confusing, don't be afraid to ask

[lost dagger]

Ich hab zu viele Nelken in meinen Tee reingetan :((

[wise creek]

:(

[pulsar furnace]

why am i so talented

[hot cloak]

i need

lesson

im from poland

i need speak deuthlandisch

[sour skiff]

Die Sprache nennt sich Deutsch

[viral perch]

What does this mean

[hot cloak]

the language is called german

or something like that 🙂

[little hollow]

Ich will ein comic-buch das ist freundlich mit Anfanger. Hat ihr echte Anregungen?

[analog stirrup]

Hey

Hallo ich bin FireFox