general-2

[neon vector]

it needs your time, dedication and soul

[mint echo]

What about printing noob ves

You guys are epitome of crony capitalism

[opal sequoia]

Teach me.

[humble sandal]

I can teach you that in python, please send the 500€ upfront.

[green cipher]

Hello Rin^^

[humble sandal]

Rin you are bad for my business

[opal sequoia]

[green cipher]

How are you
How's going avoid sweets

[humble sandal]

I was not thinking that far ahead but this could be an option.

[green cipher]

Ohh really
What happened to you?

[humble sandal]

@hot cloak I give you 10% of the money I'll take from Basementality once Rin has been eliminated.

[low drum]

Get well soon, beautiful

[green cipher]

Take care yourself sweetie
Drink some herbal tea
I am good just working
It's being 4 days that i am trying to avoid i didn't eat any junk food but i ate two piece of baklava yesterday

[mint echo]

What do you call that scarf in your pfp?

[green cipher]

In turkish?

[mint echo]

is there something same for boys?

[mint echo]

Yep

[green cipher]

Is this question for me

[mint echo]

Yes

[green cipher]

Well basically we say "Başörtüsü"
But in my around i am the only one that use it my all female friends dont use a headscarf.

[buoyant gazelle]

[hot cloak]

Hi

[mint echo]

Roar

[green cipher]

My male friends dont use headscarf of course

[buoyant gazelle]

Rrrrrrooaaarrr

[mint echo]

Why .... Ig it will look good

[buoyant gazelle]

You’re wearing a headscarf I thought it was a hijab?

[mint echo]

Could be an alternative for hat

[green cipher]

I dont use it for hat

[green cipher]

I dont know the exact english name

[low drum]

You wear a scarf if it's cold or for stylish reasons
You wear hijab for religious reasons @green cipher

[green cipher]

No i love my male friends hair 🤣

[buoyant gazelle]

Oh I thought you had gotten nitro

[green cipher]

I don't believe anyone use it for being stylish.
Bcuz you can be easily stylish with your beautifull hair^^.
Sometimes i feel being judged to me in this server really
Maybe i am too different towards to you

It was soo delicious Rin
But only 2 slice
It wasn't enough for me

[buoyant gazelle]

Is baklava like a desert?

[green cipher]

Let me send you the picture

[buoyant gazelle]

Is it that pie thing you keep posting in #food

[buoyant gazelle]

Pls do I wanna see what it looks like

[green cipher]

Here it is

[buoyant gazelle]

Oh my god it looks so yummy

It’s looks similar to Apple pie

[mint echo]

Sending tasty food pics isn't allowed

[green cipher]

Bannn mee

[mint echo]

[sudden solstice]

baklava

i love it so much!

[green cipher]

Mee too

[sudden solstice]

my grandma makes it every now and then

and its bussinn

[green cipher]

My mom makes it for me^^

[sudden solstice]

Nice!

[buoyant gazelle]

Nooooo pls don’t get banned resentful I like you very much

[green cipher]

Thank you Lewis
Our feelings are mutual^^

[buoyant gazelle]

No problem resentful you’re one of my favorite people in this server

[green cipher]

Sleep well
Also get well quickly pleasee
I love talking with you here^^

[hot cloak]

hi

[rugged cypress]

It's not only about being organised but also having the energy to do something more. Like, you sleep 8h, work 8h and then 8h is left for cooking, eating, showering, exercise, resting, spending time with family/friends. To add hobbies on top of that is tough

[low drum]

Since I dont have friends 8hrs is fine.

[slate roost]

That is true. It's not only about time management, but also about energy management. Some people have jobs that may not take that much time but can leave them physically drained for the rest of the day.

[low drum]

No.

Explain altercation

[slate roost]

bruh where did you come from all of a sudden

nvm

[low drum]

XD should I Google altercation? @slate roost

Nvm I Googled

[slate roost]

ye i just wanted to resolve a small misunderstanding from the past

[low drum]

[rugged cypress]

you know that mods have access to deleted messages, right?

[slate roost]

yeah then it's best that you 3 look at that message. It was for you 3

[rugged cypress]

I do not see deleted messages, I am not a moderator.

[low drum]

Not yet

[slate roost]

idk feels weird discussing this here

[buoyant gazelle]

What percentage is your phone?

Mine is at 88%

[raw cairn]

What server should I speedrun getting banned in?

[buoyant gazelle]

Anime soul

Minecraft

[nocturne frost]

8h sleep
8h work
127h moderating glad
Someone who is good at time please help me budget this

[hot cloak]

Make it 60%, and 4 boxes of chocolate and you have yourself a deal

[humble sandal]

SIXTY PERCENT

[hot cloak]

Is it less? I can gladly triple the percentage for you if you'd like

[humble sandal]

What now I have to pay you in order to make money?

I have taxes to pay

[runic dagger]

Sounds like a Ponzi scheme ngl

[hot cloak]

No worries, I have notified and threatened the appropriate authorities about your concern and they said they can gladly accept the tax money gradually for the next 100 years

[rocky goblet]

@sudden panther, 1 week, 4 days and 23 hours ago

You asked to be reminded about "good luck to whoever this guy is wishing luck to."
[Jump to message](#general-2 message)

Reminder created · Apr 22, 2023, 2:11 PM

[sudden panther]

RIP that guy.

[hot cloak]

Hello

[severe wadi]

i have a question, so basically I'm 165 male, and I understand that people in Germany are really tall, will my height be problematic to find jobs, friends etc

[pure bronze]

No

[green cipher]

Why the height would be problem for a job i really dont get the things sometimes

[viscid granite]

that's really a stupid question

[mint echo]

everyone is busy in their life

dont stress it out

[rugged cypress]

create a server patreon to earn money and resign frkm work

[hollow birch]

That's a good business Idea

Learning with Taki

[prime patrol]

@merry oxide @mint echo KKR actually not doing bad, 96/4 11.2

[low drum]

Was bedeuten diese Zahlen?

[low drum]

96/4 = 24 und nicht 11,2!

[merry oxide]

oh, that is pretty decent yeah

[merry oxide]

Ist ein Cricketspielstand

[buoyant gazelle]

🐱🪦

Rip

[prime patrol]

oh ja, ich bin doof, entschuldigung vatichen

[prime patrol]

yeahh 134/6 now, prolly gonna be a boring match with SRH chasing tho

[mint echo]

i want super over

[merry oxide]

maybe they can pull it off

[prime patrol]

frfr

super overs are goated lmao

[prime patrol]

yeapppp let's see, I haven't checked the score in a while

48 in 36

[merry oxide]

👀

maaaybe

[prime patrol]

Lmao KKR won

By 5 runs

[merry oxide]

yup, I watched the last seven balls

[prime patrol]

Ayeee what went wrong?

[merry oxide]

they got an out

[prime patrol]

Oops big F moment

[woeful matrix]

<@&305455824174710787>

[hollow birch]

what happend?

[woeful matrix]

Do u even need to know?

[green cipher]

Sometimes i am scareing to you Alya

[woeful matrix]

Good you should be scared of me😈

[green cipher]

Ahahahah i have decent reasons

[woeful matrix]

I would love to hear your reasons

[raw cairn]

Ok

[green cipher]

Ahahahah
I'm saving up, I'll tell you when I get enough reasons

[woeful matrix]

Fine lmfao

[hot cloak]

warum pungst du immer mods?xD

[woeful matrix]

Weil es nötig war

[hot cloak]

weswegen denn?

[woeful matrix]

Warum ist jeder heute so neugierig…

[hot cloak]

ich bin immer interessiert an dir

[woeful matrix]

Ach bist du es

[hot cloak]

wer denn?

[woeful matrix]

Nein ich meinte „bist du interessiert“

[hot cloak]

j-ja schon

[dusky falcon]

im debating on learning german.. should i?

[left jolt]

🦆

[low drum]

Hello

[orchid magnet]

Hallo

[orchid magnet]

Not at all

[slate roost]

@fair iron i never thought about it, but do you think i would make a good police officer? i am sure i would ace their physical and theoretical exams and i also really love driving

Those 3 officers i met that night seemed to be really happy and having a lot of fun

[strong stratus]

You can have some fun but the job and system aren't as nice as it seems

[strong stratus]

And you have to love doing paperwork

[fair iron]

I don't know your physical or mental capabilities well enough to judge.

[rugged cypress]

@strong stratus arrest me

[strong stratus]

I wish I could

[fair iron]

Sure you can.

[rugged cypress]

[strong stratus]

Not for much longer, I will resign

[strong stratus]

[rugged cypress]

i have hots for @strong stratus

[strong stratus]

[whole rapids]

ich habe hitze für @rugged cypress

[rugged cypress]

oh

wie was

[low drum]

[whole rapids]

Ich habe einen Flammenwerfer mit deinem Namen drauf

[fair iron]

Flame-grilled steak.

[shy anchor]

[shy anchor]

OMG HALLO

[strong stratus]

Hi

[shy anchor]

Ich hoffe es geht dir gut!!

[strong stratus]

Ja, sogar sehr

Und dir?

[fair iron]

That's what we like to hear.

[strong stratus]

[low drum]

I heard Abitur in Sachsen was very very hard

Jedes Mal wenn Abi geschrieben wird beschweren sich die Leute 😔
Fast jedes Jahr wird das gleiche gesagt: "Abi war so schwer, viel schwerer als die letzten Jahre!"

[bronze osprey]

kahoot 9673437

[ivory girder]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-dog-question-mark-i-love-silly-man-gif-25052497

[hot cloak]

Oui

Bonjout

Bonjour

[fair iron]

#other-languages

[buoyant gazelle]

Cascaaaa

Helper Casca

[fair iron]

Hi. ^^

[hot cloak]

Jallo

[teal pilot]

does anyone have any good german music artist recommendations?

[steep bison]

edwin rosen

https://open.spotify.com/track/05FN4XjxvZLo4qwmQC7yxh?si=18e7167c4a45458c

[rare heron]

Depends on the genre you want

[steep bison]

TRAUMATIN

[teal pilot]

anything is fine

[rare heron]

Well I got some great german metal bands but metal is not everyones genre

[teal pilot]

i like doom music

dont really like the throaty metal screaming though

[rare heron]

Alright

[halcyon anvil]

anyone wanna dm? I'm practicing German

[rare heron]

Powerwolf
Rammstein
Engst( trauriger rock, Punk)
And heres a list of german metal that website is good lots of power metal.
https://www.metal.de/specials/20-deutsche-metal-alben-die-man-kennen-sollte-242619/

[faint hill]

Guys

[rare heron]

What do you need

[faint hill]

Any infos would help

[rare heron]

Do you want someone to correct or translate it into English

@faint hill

[faint hill]

No lmaao

[rare heron]

Than what do you want ?

[crystal elk]

he wants his freedom

[sour oasis]

Kannst du mal den Zugfahrplan checken?

[cyan anchor]

whaa

how can you, that's the metal itself

without screaming out of his throat how can one be a solist in metal?

but the gothmetal I do love as well

[crystal elk]

use hawking's voice synthesiser

[cyan anchor]

good friend of mine said that proper metal always is playing out of toilet

[weak drift]

au.

[cyan anchor]

old anecdote

[crystal elk]

mennt sie Eau

[cyan anchor]

ew

[cyan anchor]

So you do like metal, I suppose

[weak drift]

I love metal.

fav genre of all time

[cyan anchor]

Wow, I haven't expected it tho

What kind of metal do you like? Are there some certain bands?

[teal pilot]

I like the instrumentals of metal

Listen to BFG Division, Rip & Tear, Cultist Base, and Meathook

[hot cloak]

Doom

[teal pilot]

Those are some of my favorites

[hot cloak]

Eternal

[rare heron]

I'm honestly into all kids of metal. It's my favorite genre. Lately a lot of symphonic (death )metal. In general black/death metal, heavy and trash, sometimes even power metal and gothic metal.

[slow dust]

My friend was always into heavy metal, and he tried to get me into it. Never understood the appeal, though techno was something he did get me into

[rare heron]

There are so many metal genres thankfully. Heavy metal is not for everyone just like black and death isn't. So I think anyone can find one sub genre they like.

[cyan anchor]

The symphonic is very friendly one though

[weak drift]

I like thrash and glam metal

Metallica.. Iron Maiden.. Rammstein.. Slave to Sirens (all lebanese-lady) quintet.

Operatic is my fav Iron Maiden #1 personally

[rare heron]

Symphonic is perfect when you're about to play an adventure with you d&d group. i sound like such a nerd

[weak drift]

One thing I must credit Britain with is giving us Bruce Dickinson and George Harrison.

[cyan anchor]

Iron Maiden is wonderful thing

My acquaint was on a concert of one in Kyiv and said it was something incredible, therefore he's still their fan

[rare heron]

My favorites are. Novembers doom, Harakiri for the sky, rotting Christ, Celtic frost, vreid, cradle of filth, sheogorath, enforced

All death/black. Got recommendations for each subgenre though

Good night by the way. I'm going back to bed haha

[weak drift]

gn! Nice taste

[cyan anchor]

I've been trying to get there for ca two hours 💀

gn btw

there're still many bands I haven't ever heard of

[hot cloak]

Hey where are the voice channels?

I cant find them

[cyan anchor]

into kids of metal 💀

[hot cloak]

Hey why arent we allowed into the voice channels

Are they locked at night?

[cyan anchor]

perhaps you need the role to join them?

have you got one?

[hot cloak]

Just got it

Still doesnt work

[cyan anchor]

ye I see you didn't take one

once acquired channels will become open

[hot cloak]

How do i acquire it

I got the role

Its not working!

[cyan anchor]

#channel-directory

idk how I can mention that

nevertheless there is "Channels & Roles" channel

[cyan anchor]

.

[cyan anchor]

Then I'd like to share my favorite ones: Space Of Variations, Ignea, Kroda (Ukrainian one), Khors, Obrij, Drudkh, svrm. I prefer thrash or gothic, but also listen to metalcore or symphonic, as mood wills.

[fair iron]

No; new members cannot join VC in their first 15 minutes on the server.

[rocky goblet]

@fair iron, please read the Roles section in #getting-started for info on how to join VC and more.

[fair iron]

Good bot.

[hot cloak]

Hey vc with me i need to practice

[fair iron]

I don't currently have the energy for it.

[hot cloak]

How…. Convenient

[fair iron]

Then it's a good thing that I don't exist for your convenience.

I almost never VC anyway.

[hot cloak]

Arent you a mod? Thats what they exist for

[fair iron]

No and no.

Not a single member here exists to VC with you or anyone else.

It's voluntary.

My loss.

[hot cloak]

I have a question

[fair iron]

Sure. How can I help?

[hot cloak]

Do you read novels in German or English

[fair iron]

I personally consume any media I can in English.

[hot cloak]

Wow that seems difficult. Getting to that point in a second language seems impossible

[fair iron]

It also happens to be my native language, though, so I feel the most comfortable in it.

I grew up in England.

[hot cloak]

omg hello Casca!

[fair iron]

Hey, Grannie. ^^

[hot cloak]

Oh i thought you were german

i like your profile picture

[fair iron]

I am, but I was fortunate enough to grow up with two native languages.

[fair iron]

Thank you. ^^

[hot cloak]

Wow lucky

My mère never taught me Canadian French growing up.

[fair iron]

That's awesome!

I'm learning French actively.

[hot cloak]

Im trying to learn myself too

Do the job my mom couldnt do herself tee hee hee

[fair iron]

^^

For lack of trying on her part, or yours?

[hot cloak]

She never spoke it to me. Just to my grandparents and sometimes a few tourists we encountered on vacation

Are you Liam Carps?

British person who came from germany and has a youtube channel.

[fair iron]

Nope. ^^

[hot cloak]

Oh

Soooo do u find german or french funner to learn

[rare heron]

We had to learn French in school. Made me hate that language

I wasn't even bad at it but I'm so glad I can forget everything I learned in those 6 years

[hot cloak]

Aww : (

My mom told me not to learn french so im doing the opposite of what she told me

[rare heron]

We had shitty teacher though especially last year god that man was miserable. We had to chose between latin and French. I thought it would be useless to learn a difficult and dead language

[low drum]

@rare heron schwädsed se schwäbisch?

[rare heron]

We were basically forced to choose. Only two options. I never wanted to learn french I'm more into nordic languages. If you want to learn french I'm sure you'll have fun. It's not so difficult

[uneven ore]

Schools should offer more. Mine only offered Japanese

[rare heron]

Wenn ich im schönen Schwabenländle bei meinen Verwandten bin dann ja. Hier in Franken nicht 🥲

[low drum]

Belasto

[rare heron]

It's stupid we have to choose between two languages at the age of 10/11 how are we supposed to know if we made the right decision

[low drum]

Mir sollted schwäbisch zur offizielle sproch mache

[rare heron]

Definitv!!!

Schwaben>>>

[uneven ore]

Mood, sometimes you don't even choose the right one. Wanted to learn Japanese, tried for years, my teacher didn't teach any more than basics. 6 years of learning a language gone nowhere

[rare heron]

Yeah that's shitty

[uneven ore]

If there's one thing about Duolingo I dislike, it's the talking tasks. I always pronounce it to the best of my ability, and it's still incorrect. I believe it may be my accent

[hot cloak]

At least ur school system had them. My school didnt offer them until high school and it was low quality.

[bright kayak]

It may also be your microphone, or the software itself

[humble sandal]

You may not be doing the right intonation

[fair iron]

French, personally.

[hot cloak]

French is fun yes

[buoyant gazelle]

French is aggressive

And fun

[rose flicker]

Ja, oui

[cyan anchor]

The worst scenario is that school just like stops on basic declination and vocabulary, but the entire course duration is 3-5 years, and it's ridiculously long and boring for such a level, whilst somebody in a class just doesn't get along and the cycle happens to continue

idk we do have schools with philological and language bias in my homeland, but yanow they just learn language as it is, with native literature, journals and sometimes tackling a grammar, taking exams on it as well, so nobody would stop the process of learning

[jovial turtle]

hallo zusammen ich bin ayoub aus marokko

[humble sandal]

agressive?

[fair iron]

Woh, calm down.

[humble sandal]

In French it would be "agressif" (because le français).

[fair iron]

You're right. ^^

[hot cloak]

I wouldnt say french is wgressiv

[woeful matrix]

I would say french is aggressive

[mint echo]

says a literal cat

who does nothing else

except screaming

[woeful matrix]

Its kinda scary that u know me that well

I really did nothing today i even barely got out of my room

[mint echo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-apple-cats-cute-gif-14585088

you better look like this

irl

[woeful matrix]

I might be aggressive but that doesnt mean i cant say whether french sounds aggressive to me or not

[mint echo]

or i will ban you

[mint echo]

for you it is relatively friendly

[woeful matrix]

U have to ban me cause i look more like this

Imagine me tying a bow on my neck what do u think smh

And i usually dont use glasses only when i‘m studying

[woeful matrix]

No

[mint echo]

[woeful matrix]

Well actually yes

[mint echo]

myopia gang

[woeful matrix]

[mint echo]

then how you hunt

if your eyes are myopic

or you are one of the chonky cats

who have abandoned hunter lifestyle

[woeful matrix]

I‘m a chonky cat who has abandoned hunter lifestyle

[sudden panther]

So basically all the time?

[woeful matrix]

||I actually dont wear glasses when i‘m studying either||

[woeful matrix]

No sorry sweetheart

[fair iron]

Very fancy.

[sudden panther]

How will you become a doctor.

[fair iron]

🤔

[woeful matrix]

What? My eyes dont need glasses

[woeful matrix]

I‘m not a doc i‘m a dentist-to-be

[fair iron]

That's fine, it just makes the previous comment misleading. ^^

[woeful matrix]

Yeah cause the cats had glasses

[sudden panther]

Sorry I don't know that word. What was dentist in German again?

[woeful matrix]

Oh you tricky creature

[woeful matrix]

Sorry i can‘t help you with that i don‘t know it in german either

But let me help you with telling you the bosnian word for dentist: stomatolog

Or is it zubar? Dentyste?

Idk google translate

[sudden panther]

Oh. So it has the -olog suffix which is commonly used for doctors. Understood. Thank you doctor oily.

[woeful matrix]

Not only doctors

The suffix ology is commonly used in the English language to denote a field of study

any science or branch of knowledge

[woeful matrix]

So there u are i‘m a dentist-to-be not a doc

[mint echo]

dentists are not doctor?

[dusky igloo]

Well there is medical school and a separate one for dentists so i think yes

[sudden panther]

You're a student of dental medicine who will have the title of a doctor of dental medicine. So um I know it's hard to be wrong but you're gonna have to learn to live with it. 😎

[woeful matrix]

Okay well until the 18th century dentistry was not separate from medicine

[frail birch]

I think Dentistry is different from Medicine

[woeful matrix]

Okay yes we do learn the things just like medicine students

[prime patrol]

doctor alaya pls fix my teeth

[mint echo]

dentist can use dr prefix tho

[woeful matrix]

I will as soon as i graduate baby

[mint echo]

anyone who can use dr prefix

[woeful matrix]

Well yeah they do

[mint echo]

is doctor

[woeful matrix]

Smh mh

[mint echo]

i will do phd

and become doctor

and treat patients

[woeful matrix]

Lol

[sharp lantern]

phd pro

[dusky igloo]

If you have a phd in physics you can operate on patients

[mint echo]

yes

[prime patrol]

thankyou

[prime patrol]

yeah, you can test Newton's third law on them

[frail birch]

also I think Medical school is longer or Is Dental school the same

[dusky igloo]

Newton has three laws wtf

[mint echo]

i will cross check escape velocity

[woeful matrix]

Idk how it is in other countries but medicine in turkey is 12 semesters, dentistry 10 semesters

[prime patrol]

last I checked, yeah

[mint echo]

5 years

same here

[woeful matrix]

Where

[mint echo]

india

[woeful matrix]

Ohh i see

[dusky igloo]

Dam. Is having a measuring unit named after him not enough

[prime patrol]

you need enough power to get them to reach escape velocity, but you are weak

[prime patrol]

well he found out the relations between diff stuff, hence they named those after him too, there's also a Newton Leibniz theorem in math. He's everywhere

[dusky igloo]

Whats leibniz

That sounds like a ligma thing

[mint echo]

proto used swords dance

attack rose by two stages

now im powerful

[prime patrol]

lol no, he was a scientist, mathematician, basically highly smart

[sudden panther]

Both are 12 in Austria. TFW they won't recognize your degree and will make you go to school again.

[mint echo]

tf

[prime patrol]

proto falls down

[frail birch]

interesting

[woeful matrix]

What about germany? Idk i saw many turkish people go to germany and work there as a dentist u take an exam tho

[mint echo]

austria doesnt recognize foreign medicine degrees?

[woeful matrix]

I know that germany does but i‘m not entirely sure about austria

[dusky igloo]

Do most countries recognize foreign degrees?

[sudden panther]

I have no idea, not my field of study. But I'd imagine that they wouldn't be too happy about an entire year missing.

[prime patrol]

can you just transfer in the last year?

is that allowed? "yo I have 5 years, take me in for the 6th one"

[woeful matrix]

Lol

[prime patrol]

like that should be allowed

[mint echo]

turkey is part of bologna process

[prime patrol]

I heard something about being able to transfer credits and stuff

[mint echo]

so it should me recognized most prolly

[mint echo]

you can transfer your credit score to me

[prime patrol]

what is bologna process

[prime patrol]

I have them in negative, gladly. I'll transfer all my K.T.s to you too

[mint echo]

standardizing higher education

in a nutshell

[sudden panther]

Yes but one of the pillars of Bologna are ECTS points, and 60 of them is a whole lot to be missing.

[prime patrol]

ohh is it bad that the first thing that came to my mind was bologonese(?) pasta ☠️

[sudden panther]

Though again, entirely speculation on my part, I have no data to back any of this up lol.

[woeful matrix]

Me who has only this semester 60 credits

[sudden panther]

Oh yeah Alya's uni does their own credit system too lmfao.

[mint echo]

ye...germany loves their ects to their death

[woeful matrix]

Noooo my own uni was perfectly fine idk what is wrong with the new uni

[mint echo]

my own uni

cat princess is actually rich

[woeful matrix]

The uni i am normally going got destroyed so we got to another uni so not my uni the uni i‘m going

[mint echo]

destroyed

how

anyways this may lead to doxxing yourself

[prime patrol]

earthquake I suppose 😔. I'm sorry Alya

[mint echo]

so no need

[mint echo]

ohh

i thought her og uni was in austria

[mint river]

hi

i am new to this server

where can you post your german writing so it can be corrected if there are any mistakes?

[mint echo]

#writing

@mint river

[sudden panther]

Check out #writing-info and more generally #getting-started. Simple questions like that have already been answered.

[mint river]

oh k

thanks

[mint echo]

may i ask you something

[sudden panther]

Hmmmmmm, no.

[mint echo]

i will ask anyways

[sudden panther]

Deal.

[mint echo]

which tech stack you use in work

and also why you chose austria over germany to study CS

[sharp lantern]

^^^^^^

makes it harder for me to try your pizza

[mint echo]

https://tenor.com/view/awkward-umm-what-what-gif-14694719

[sudden panther]

Java, Angular and Oracle DB.
Because they had Software Engineering starting from a bachelor level. And I was not interested in a generic CS bachelors course. And it's closer

[woeful matrix]

Yes earthquake thank u @prime patrol thank u too @mint echo

[sudden panther]

I've offered pizza, watching me try sushi, free accommodation and free beatings whenever desired, and you still refuse to come so I've just accepted that you hate me.

[mint echo]

i am also trying to get into Software Engineering instead of generic CS...but english taught are very competitive for admission

[prime patrol]

learn german

[mint echo]

definitely

[prime patrol]

okay wow so you don't usually do snek?

[sudden panther]

You too. 😤

[mint echo]

but still studying entirely in german makes me nervous

[prime patrol]

teach me pricate sessions with you and Leeri and I'll be Level F in no time!

[prime patrol]

just do it 😤

[frail birch]

I'm currently learning Java, I have now just started learning UI in Java/front end stuff

[sudden panther]

For the most part no. I mostly just use Python for quick scripting for personal purposes, or for making disgusting one line solutions to coding challenges.

[mint echo]

i will be learning java too once my end sem exams finishes

[prime patrol]

it's kinda concerning how I'm least worried about having to study in only german 😂

[prime patrol]

okay noted . Disgusting one line solutions

[mint echo]

@sudden pantherguide me senpai

[sudden panther]

Eh I went there with B2 and I survived. And plenty of people were below my level and survived. People are also willing to tolerate various degrees of English if you ask for it. So you'll live as well.

[mint echo]

[sudden panther]

Like at the very least I think they'd let you write almost any exam you want in English. Some people like the courses I tutored even make exams in both languages for convenience.

[prime patrol]

haha yeah, plus I'm hoping to go to Studienkolleg, so that'll be like 1 year of only german taught phy, chem, math, cs and german so that will help definintely

[mint echo]

ohh

[prime patrol]

ooo okay that's sehr schön then

[frail birch]

English speaking unis exist aswell right? Or are they not very good unis

[prime patrol]

they're kinda hard to get into^^

[frail birch]

oh interesting

[sudden panther]

There are better people to ask for guidance in #coding than me. I first looked at Java over a decade ago and I prefer learning via books to get started and then relying only on experience, which is a super unpopular option in the age of video tutorials and websites that offer courses.

[sharp lantern]

like me

[sudden panther]

Yes.

[mint echo]

how old are you

[prime patrol]

I prefer crying over learning

[mint echo]

i prefer books too...i have already read java one

[sudden panther]

I started at a fairly young age because Java was the Minecraft language™️.

[prime patrol]

5 year old Arrim doing java, aw cute

[mint echo]

modding minecraft*

[mint echo]

while i was doing potty training when i was 5

[sharp lantern]

( that's pretty late)

[mint echo]

im a slow learner

[sharp lantern]

we still welcome you here

[mint echo]

i welcome you here too

its pretty rare

to see you chat

are you going through some sort of breakup

and trying to cope

[sharp lantern]

what the hell

i've just been working hardcore for a few months

[mint echo]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-kek-bttv-twitch-emote-gif-15123134

[mint echo]

mental breakup

i see

https://tenor.com/view/mmhmm-mmhmm-meme-mmhmm-gif-mmhmm-twitch-gif-23291803

[sharp lantern]

[sudden panther]

Technically yes.

[mint echo]

[frail birch]

I tried doing that before but I didn't know Java at all so I failed miserably but If I tried now I could do better

[sharp lantern]

you are not a break up i am avoiding you on purpose

[prime patrol]

yet you still ain't trained 😔

[mint echo]

plenty of girls will come and go
but i will be always be there for you
||to beg for help||

[sudden panther]

You can't break up with me. I said yes to your proposal and I'm still waiting for the wedding. 😊

[mint echo]

still working on it

one day i will make ma proud

[prime patrol]

and you ain't even gonna invite me?

[prime patrol]

wait until you realize you are adopted

[sharp lantern]

ja because it aint happening

[prime patrol]

but it has to! Pretty please with sugar on top

[sharp lantern]

i won't marry arrem just to please you!

[mint echo]

even they havent realized it yet

[mint echo]

why not

[sudden panther]

Of course you're invited. 🥰

[prime patrol]

it's inevitable

[sudden panther]

A wedding is a festival of love and I want all my friends to be there.

[prime patrol]

they just don't wanna tell you

[prime patrol]

aww thankyou

[mint echo]

so im not invited

[sudden panther]

If you say so.

[mint echo]

invite shiggies too

@prime patrolyou saw todays match?

Rcb lost to DC

tf

[hot cloak]

Can I come too? I can bring everyone some baklava

[mint echo]

no

eule is evil

[sharp lantern]

so i'm automatically not there

[sudden panther]

Yes sir, absolutely. Why would I not invite my own grandchild.

[mint echo]

shes wants us to eat poisonous baklava

[hot cloak]

Oh no, you found out, time to get rid of you too

[sudden panther]

Well if I'm inviting just mere friends of course I'm also gonna invite my close besties. 🥰

[mint echo]

you are not invited to your wedding

[hot cloak]

Aww, I'll give you the biggest piece grandma

[sudden panther]

Inb4 I choke on it.

[mint echo]

inb4?

new personality ?

im getting old

new slangs are getting way ahead of me

[hot cloak]

I didnt knew what that meant either but whenever I spot any number In text I just read it out loud and try to get what it could mean lol

[sharp lantern]

earlier today someone didn't know "Rofl"

[mint echo]

i dont know about pfui

[hot cloak]

It isnt really used anymore so I could imagine young people no knowing what it means

[sharp lantern]

^^^^

[remote sluice]

Do I need to know what Rofl means?

[sharp lantern]

it's just one of many abbreviations

[hot cloak]

No but its rolling on the floor laughing

[mint echo]

is it correct?

[hot cloak]

I remember when I was in 5th and 6th grade everyone used abbreviations like ''Wg'' ''Wmdgs'' etc in text

horrible

[remote sluice]

k

[mint echo]

wg?

[frail birch]

what the

[mint echo]

whats going on?

[hot cloak]

Wie gehts

[sharp lantern]

don't think so, the german pfui is more an expression of disgust

[frail birch]

I have never heard of those before

[hot cloak]

Was machst du gerade so

Its German

[frail birch]

oh they're German abbreviations

[hot cloak]

Yes

[sharp lantern]

like pfui is similar to ew

[sudden panther]

Sooo true.

[sharp lantern]

Pfui Teufel!

[mint echo]

not disgust

[sharp lantern]

german pfui

[mint echo]

but disdain

[hot cloak]

pfui is like ''ugh'' ''yuck'' and ''pooh'' in english

[sharp lantern]

you're looking at an english definition

[mint echo]

[errant nacelle]

Here you go

[mint echo]

why the heck english cant make their own words

[sharp lantern]

oh ja danke

[mint echo]

literally copied half of the german

[hot cloak]

fr

English badf

German good

[mint echo]

also english pronunciation is hard

write something else

[sharp lantern]

something else

[mint echo]

speak something else

[hot cloak]

Yeah english isnt really phonetic

[mint echo]

then blame non natives

for bad pronunciation

[hot cloak]

I think in English people are used to foreign accents so much that most dont care at all

[sudden panther]

My friend pfui cares about accents a lot. Just today she told me that my accent is horrible.

[sharp lantern]

i can tell you more horrible things if you wish

[sudden panther]

Ja bitte.

[arctic atlas]

Like pineapple belongs on pizza

[mint echo]

pfui seems like second coming of bro

XD

[sharp lantern]

[sharp lantern]

i actually have one in my freezer atm

[hot cloak]

pfui seems like a really nice person

[sharp lantern]

love the sarcasm

[hot cloak]

Im not being sarcastic :(

[sharp lantern]

[mint echo]

peak sarcasm

XD

[sudden panther]

Explain why.

[hot cloak]

idk I like their vibe

[arctic atlas]

The gods made nudel suffer for your crimes

[sharp lantern]

syro we've talked about this you can't just play pretend gods and hurt my pet

[errant nacelle]

The gods are unfair. Nudel never deserved it.

[sharp lantern]

nudel spitting on syro

[mint echo]

who is nudel

[hot cloak]

Shakira sounds like a frog

Did you ever notice

[mint echo]

[sharp lantern]

lellololeloleeeee

[remote sluice]

It is still being used but the new gen more uses like wsp or hi, u can use it but we are also using english abkürzungen (forgot the english)

[sharp lantern]

i'm pretty sure that's what she's made fun of most

[hot cloak]

Abbreviations

[remote sluice]

yea

[hot cloak]

Hello ves

[sharp lantern]

hello ves

[prime patrol]

I saw csk vs mi lol, HAARCB for a reason lmfao

[hot cloak]

Whats that language

[mint echo]

they finished in 16.4 overs

[hot cloak]

csk vs mi lol HAAARCB

[mint echo]

csk and mi are two local teams

[hot cloak]

OH

is it

cricket?

[mint echo]

yes

[hot cloak]

Ves you really have to teach me

[prime patrol]

Done done

[hot cloak]

Why done

[prime patrol]

Hello katto

[hot cloak]

hello Ves

How are you my Zimtschnecke

[prime patrol]

Hello pui

[prime patrol]

good wbu

[hot cloak]

Im good too

So

what havbe yo0u been up to today

[prime patrol]

Done= will teach you

[hot cloak]

Ive never heard anyone use it like that 😭

[prime patrol]

Cricket, cs, schlafen yes

[prime patrol]

Now u did

How was ur day

[hot cloak]

Whats something special about indian english

It was good

I had breakfast with some friends

and it was a lot of fun

[mint echo]

by the time you will apply ...you will be already manipulated to take cs

XD

[prime patrol]

I speak it?

[hot cloak]

Oh wow

yes

[prime patrol]

Oooo schönnn

[prime patrol]

Chemistry will always have my heart anyway😌

[mint echo]

memes

[hot cloak]

no like are there expressions others wouldnt understand

[mint echo]

its something non-indian can figure out

not us

[prime patrol]

Prolly, idk. We do have "giving the exam"

We also use "only" a lot and "like"

[hot cloak]

Me too

Do you have expressions directly translated from hindu

Or like idioms

[prime patrol]

I've also seen myself use "na" a lot which is a non translatable hindi word

[sudden panther]

Sir I have a doubt is my favorite Indian phrase.

[prime patrol]

Hmm there was the exam give thing rest ig theres preponing a meeting?

[mint echo]

ok sir

[prime patrol]

Is that not used normally? " I have a doubt"?

[hot cloak]

Not really I think

[prime patrol]

Ok wow ive been using that my entire life

[sudden panther]

It sounds very Indian subcontinent to me. Everyone else will just say question lmao.

[prime patrol]

Ooo haha, nah we have doubts in questions . Like when u are problem solving and the solution doesn't click

So u have a "doubt"

[sudden panther]

Yeah but when you're communicating that to someone you'll be like I have a doubt, followed by a statement or a question that you expect clarified or answered. Whereas I'd just say I have a question about <whatever> or I don't understand <whatever>.
At least in my very limited experience.

[prime patrol]

😂 no that makes perfect sense actually, idk why we use doubt but we do. "I have a question" here would mean that u want a question solved atleast in my school.
For eq.
"Sir I have a question"
-ok which one
"Q35"
Vs
"Sir I have a doubt"

• wot happen
  "Why does Newton have 3 laws and not 4"
  Question is a little broad snd could fit in the second case too tho. Interesting stuff

[mint echo]

Maybe it has to do with the thing that in schools teachers tell us to let them finish first and then ask our doubts

[prime patrol]

Yeahhh that's true

I've also heard that using "I've passed out of school/college" is unique to Indian English too

[mint echo]

You have passed out at school

[prime patrol]

Never

That was for weak kids in assembly

[mint echo]

Ye

I eat 2 paratha daily

[prime patrol]

Ive only passed out once, at my blood test

[mint echo]

Weak

[prime patrol]

I eat 4 roti, 1 bowl rice. I win

[mint echo]

In morning

https://tenor.com/view/cat-standing-fat-epic-gif-23115386

Ves irl

[mint echo]

You follow ekadasi?

When we don't eat rice

[sudden panther]

It's okay, you're allowed to have doubts, as long as they're not about whether you should do CS, because that's a certain yes. 😤

[prime patrol]

Yes very true, pls don't doxx me

[prime patrol]

😂 ok I'll have doubts in CS and ask you them

[prime patrol]

Wtf is that, no

[sudden panther]

Yes please. Start immediately.

[hot cloak]

beautiful

[mint echo]

Google

It

I'm on mobile

So can't ss

[mint echo]

Idk why but it appears to me that shes wearing pyjamas

[prime patrol]

Oke, I already have a doubt. How to do python on phone?

[prime patrol]

No

[arctic atlas]

Why do you want to torture yourself

[mint echo]

Use online compilers

but they are very basic

https://www.onlinegdb.com/online_python_debugger

[hot cloak]

Rin is it your birthday

[mint echo]

everyday is worth celebrating for princess rin.

[prime patrol]

Because I hate myself

[prime patrol]

Like you?

And? How was it

[mint echo]

You acid af

[hot cloak]

Fuck

Wrong server

Whats wrong with me

[prime patrol]

HNO3 only

[mint echo]

Wrong server but right reply

[hot cloak]

Was it yesterday?

[prime patrol]

Oke imma sleep now gn

[hot cloak]

happy fake birthday

byebyeybye vfes

[prime patrol]

Yepp bye

[mint echo]

What you tried to do?? Basics can of a language can be done online except file handling

[prime patrol]

Tell arrem im not sleeping, im uhh just counting number of molecules in 1 mL of water

[mint echo]

pehli fursat me nikal

[prime patrol]

@ moderator. HATE SPEECH

[mint echo]

[prime patrol]

Shameless

[mint echo]

Aimless would have worked better

But anyways

I will do it for you

Li has arrived

[errant nacelle]

Hello, I don't know what this means, but since ves reported it and I'm biased I'll have to remind you to be nice tyvm. 😃

[mint echo]

Getting warnings from you is an honor

[errant nacelle]

Oh ok, I'll skip the warnings and go straight for the punishments instead.

[prime patrol]

That's true too

[prime patrol]

Leeerrrriiii hab dich lieb, gute Nacht

[errant nacelle]

Nachti

[sharp lantern]

guts nächtle

[hollow birch]

mir ist langweilig

[pure bronze]

cs.

[green cipher]

Rin^^
I dont know you'll saw this or you will not but i just want to say
I listened you
I ate this dark chocalete cake there
It was most awesome punishment

[sharp lantern]

jealous

i haven't had chocolate cake in a while

[green cipher]

Ohhh
Sad
Try to buy yourself tomorrow

Some chocolate cake

[rugged cypress]

I WANT THIS

[green cipher]

Come here then^^
I would lovely share with you this beautiful cake

[rugged cypress]

[hollow birch]

Musste mich abfinden für einen Werktest zu lernen, der insgesamt über 100+ Powerpointfolien hat

Mein Leben hat nun kein Sinn mehr

Will wer mitmachen, um "geteiltes Leid= halbes Leid" zu machen?

[sudden panther]

Hello, share please, thanks.

[rocky goblet]

@lone dew, please read the Roles section in #getting-started for info on how to join VC and more.

[hollow birch]

thats a nice edit 🙃

You might come into #stargazing

https://tenor.com/view/face-palm-petar-culibrk-stress-sigh-gif-13614546

#getting-started

click on it

[woeful matrix]

I should go on a selfdate

[hidden patio]

looks gay

[green cipher]

Would you accept this apple @sudden panther princess?
I want to share with you^^

[sudden panther]

Yes. I consulted my friend who is an expert on apples and they said that it is a very nice apple, it has a very nice color, the green tone, and therefore I have decided to accept it. Thank you very much.

[green cipher]

So you say "I can't even trust the apple you gave me, I felt the need to consult my friends".
Don't worry, my apples won't put princesses to sleep for centuries.

[sudden panther]

No I just happened to be talking to an apple expert when you sent the photo, so we looked at it together.

[green cipher]

Oki princess i believe you^^

[sudden panther]

Sağ ol that means a lot to me.

[green cipher]

Ne demek always🙃

[sudden panther]

Always. So I get a free lifetime supply of apples.

[green cipher]

Yeah
As of today, I pay for all apple costs for you
Just send me your IBAN my DM's

[green cipher]

Let's go together^^

[woeful matrix]

Lets go

[fair iron]

Treat yourselves. ^^

[sudden panther]

Kanki you can't just go on dates without checking if they're a billionaire first. Though Resentful did offer to pay for my apples so I think we're good.

[green cipher]

What do you mean?
I would be good partner

For her

[fair iron]

I'm simply saying that I hope the two of you have a good time.

[green cipher]

Thank you for your good wishes then^^

[woeful matrix]

Kanki as my mother you kinda have to find me a billionaire to marry

I will buy u a kitchenaid if u find me a billionaire to marry

[woeful matrix]

||treat yourselves more like kendinizi şımartın!||

[green cipher]

Ben de şey gibi algıladım koru kendini

[sudden panther]

Okay I will go husband seeking at the masjid and find you a nice well-mannered cute loving and caring billionaire.

[green cipher]

Ne alakaysa

[woeful matrix]

Looool

[green cipher]

Benim kıt ingilizcem

[woeful matrix]

Oh actually i would love that my wish would come true

[sudden panther]

It's okay, that was oily a few years ago, and now she's an expert. 😍

[woeful matrix]

Mine wasnt perfect when i first came here either

[green cipher]

How did you develop

[woeful matrix]

3 years ago me refused to talk in english i only used german

[green cipher]

It

Then

[woeful matrix]

I developed it here with all GLaD helping me uwu still grateful of thwm

I still struggle tho but its better than me 3 years ago

[green cipher]

I see they are pretty nice persons

[errant nacelle]

GLaD is the best English-learning server. 😍

[green cipher]

How many hours did you spend here

[woeful matrix]

I had to use a lot of DeepL at the beginning i had to translate them and translate what i wanted to say and stuff

[green cipher]

What is Deepl

I dont know

Andd

[woeful matrix]

After i time i only translated few words and then i barely translated anything

[green cipher]

Last question

[woeful matrix]

DeepL is a translator better than google

[sudden panther]

https://www.deepl.com/translator

[woeful matrix]

It actually is

[green cipher]

Did you use vc for devoloping your english

[woeful matrix]

You had to see how patient arrem base casca and all were towards me leer lol

[green cipher]

Thanks princess^^
I will check

[woeful matrix]

Hmm i think i did use vc too but not much?

[green cipher]

I think sometimes base really hate me
Lol

[sudden panther]

Yes, here is a screenshot of Alya using Deepl in 2021.

[woeful matrix]

I wish i used vc more cause my speaking is still … really bad

[green cipher]

Then we can use vc

More

[fair iron]

It's better than you give yourself credit for, Alya.

[woeful matrix]

Base doesnt hate anyone base is a sweet kind gentleman he is just pretty serious kinda

Base is my best friend tho i love him

[green cipher]

Maybe not for me
I know i am not that lovely but
I think he just dont like me at all😂

[woeful matrix]

When was the last time u heard my english my sweet brother

[fair iron]

It's been a few months, but it sounded okay, from what I remember.

[green cipher]

I heard your voice Casca
Your english looks like a native
And you aree

[fair iron]

Yep, I'm native. ^^

[woeful matrix]

No he probably doesnt hate u doesnt hate anyone when it is night for us its morning for him so we dont get to see each other much and he is busy with work and stuff and like when he is messaging he seems like very emotionless very serious but he actually is a gentle kind sweetheart

[woeful matrix]

We did vc few months ago? I cant remember

[fair iron]

Briefly.

[green cipher]

I will try to not being prejudices him.
I am sure he really is.

[fair iron]

I can't remember what we talked about.

[woeful matrix]

Was it when i was in uni?

I can not be tho my internet was very bad there and before that i was in austria so i can not be then either 🤔

[fair iron]

Oh, I'm not even sure. It may have been before?

Not sure.

[woeful matrix]

Hmm i see

[fair iron]

Point is: I believe in you, sis.

[hollow birch]

Casca is soo romantically wow

[fair iron]

By ... believing in my sister?

Also, that's an adverb.

[hollow birch]

in general 🙃

[hollow birch]

romantic I guess then?

[fair iron]

That's the correct adjective, yes. ^^

[hollow birch]

I really wanted to spend a little bit more on discord today but im since I changed to High School I got very busy

Wish you a good night

[fair iron]

And I you.

[fair iron]

I think you may have meant 'sweet' or 'wholesome'. Or 'loving'.

[sudden panther]

Okay sweaty.

[fair iron]

Oops. :]

[slow dust]

Is there a link?

[sudden panther]

You're on it right now.

[slow dust]

Oof lol

Nvm I'm an idiot

[sudden panther]

@sharp geyser hello, based on your apparent language level, we've removed the Level A role, which, as id:customize explained, is meant for beginners.

[sharp geyser]

I don’t know where I’m at

[slow dust]

Level B is intermediate, and Level C is basically fluent

[pure osprey]

man was so good he got upgraded by the mods 💀

[strong forge]

loool

[rustic rune]

Is b1 to c1.1 possible in 6 months?

Just to pass exams

[drifting gust]

depends on a lot of factors

[rustic rune]

It's a full time german course in a university

I will be in Germany

[spice robin]

It's pretty possible then

[hot cloak]

if u study yeah 😭

[fading ridge]

Ich habe ein volles Jahr gebraucht um B1 zu erreichen, es hängt natürlich von der Person und ihre Fähigkeiten ab, ist ja was schwer zu schaffen und du solltest jeden Tag regelmäßig lernen

[open crater]

is duolingo a good source to learn german?

[arctic atlas]

ex duo

[rocky goblet]

Duolingo

Duolingo is a decent resource to start with if you're a complete beginner, but it's neither efficient nor comprehensive!

What Duolingo will teach you about grammar is very limited, and none of the systems they use will help you practise much of it.
You can learn some vocabulary with it, but their method (based on the concept of spaced repetition) doesn't work for everybody, and the way Duolingo teaches is not very effective compared to the amount of time it requires from you.

So, if you find it useful, by all means keep using it, but remember not to fall for its gamification of language learning, and move past it when it stops being beneficial. Ignore the streaks.

In any case, keep in mind that Duolingo is not enough to learn a language, ever.

If you're looking for guidance or alternatives, check out >faq beginner in our #botchannel .

[open crater]

thanks

[rustic rune]

I would be studying in a german in a public german uni

Full time

[raven saffron]

Lmao what

[rustic rune]

Currently i would be studying a1 to b1 in my home country

[old merlin]

im level negative letter

[slow dust]

Lol

[icy bluff]

Hi. By chance, do you know if there's some kind of more efficient, free alternative to Duolingo to learn German? I'm really eager to learn German and I'm still searching for a way to learn it with some other way other than Duolingo...

[hot cloak]

Yes

[hot cloak]

Do you know nicos weg?

[icy bluff]

Oh, do you mean like Deutsche Weller? Learn German? That's funny, I just found it😁

I'm doing the placement test for A1 - A2 right now...

[hasty hull]

Hiii

[hot cloak]

Yeah its good

[icy bluff]

They're talking so fast I can't understand...😅

[low drum]

ich war interessiert!

[icy bluff]

How can a beginner like me understand such fast-spoken phrases...?

Like, something really hard for me to understand regardless is the times. Like hours and minutes. It's so hard! 😅

[whole rapids]

Don't be discouraged about not understanding everything, your brain needs time to adapt, and so the more exposure you get by listening to German, the quicker you will start to understand things. Deutsche Welle also has videos with subtitles, which could make your life easier.

[icy bluff]

Oh, danke schön for your advice, @whole rapids ! 😊

[queen trout]

ich heiße pfeinem

[quartz blaze]

I believe Nico is incredibly talented and if he lives one more week in Germany he is going to get a professorate degree in German linguistics

[unborn cargo]

Have any of ypu heard of the ISF school in frankfurt

[narrow bear]

im from nigeria hi

who can teach me German

my dad grew up in germany

so he knows german well

[errant nacelle]

faq teach me

[rocky goblet]

Can anyone teach me German?

There are no private lessons or 1-on-1 tutoring offered here as this server is a community effort and everyone is a volunteer.

Are there still some kind of lessons here?

Yes! Our lovely volunteer hosts organise lessons from time to time. To find out more, check out #lesson-info.

How else can I use this server to learn German?

For more information about how the server works and how it can help you learn German, check out #info and #getting-started.

[spice robin]

Your dad

[hollow birch]

whats with #study-tasks ?

[errant nacelle]

I wouldn't consider these lessons like what most people expect when they ask others to "teach them".
In any case, information about channels such as #writing, #study-tasks and everything else the server offers can be found in #info and #getting-started, so there's no need to clutter the article.

[native elk]

Geh dienun weg