avatar-help

[west current]

and other half

nvm it wont hapen

hold on

also the jump works when its walking

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot this menu again when it's highlighting bone green?

[west current]

how

[ornate stump]

It's in Rig Configuration menu in unity.

[west current]

this?

[ornate stump]

Also front view.

[ornate stump]

You rather have to go through the Hips object which is the bone, go down through hierarchy until you find Head bone and put the hat object on there.

Can you screenshot this view again but try not getting the arm in the way.

[west current]

the arm always gets in the way

[ornate stump]

It's hard to see what the knees actually do.

[west current]

they go inside the body

[ornate stump]

So when crouching, the knees don't bend?

[west current]

the legs go upside down into the body

[west current]

no they go into the body like this

[ornate stump]

Go to some MMD world and see if the animation make it dances correctly.

[misty musk]

the vertex colours are white what else is the issue here

im using toonlit shaders and its making tex black

[quasi crypt]

why is there a black spec on the white line it just appeared there for some odd reason and there a way to get rid of it unless thats normal

[ornate stump]

How can you tell the vertex color is white?

[misty musk]

went into blender and the vertex paint was white

[gloomy breach]

emergency alert!!! it's MEMORY FLOODING MY PC!!!! 5000 ERRORS PER SECOND

[ornate stump]

It would be surer if you delete the vertex color attribute out entirely.

[ornate stump]

Just restart unity?

[gloomy breach]

tried 5 times

500,000 errors so far

[ornate stump]

What did you do prior to that error showing up?

[gloomy breach]

i dont remember. I just discovered this. wondering why unity was so slow compared to other projects for the past few days

[misty musk]

where can i do that?

[ornate stump]

See in the vertex data tab when selecting the mesh.

[ornate stump]

Try reseting all layout first, from the Layout menu at the top right of the screen.

[gloomy breach]

OK. I i think I narrowed down further the source. when I looked at the avi's torso... ehem chest ehem. The errors flood.

[ornate stump]

Likely some component is breaking it then.

[misty musk]

in blender i’m assuming? will try tomorrow since it’s late here

[ornate stump]

Look as in you pan the camera to make it visible on the scene, or select the object and see in the inspector?

[ornate stump]

In blender.

[gloomy breach]

pan the camera

[ornate stump]

Sounds like the shader is causing the issue.

[dusk elk]

Guys I just made this edit and applied a new tail but the texture doesnt seem to work on it? Idk if its a blender or unity thing

[ornate stump]

Your model have multiple UVmaps, you're showing the second uvmap in blender.

[dusk elk]

So, what do I do? The other UV is for the body

[ornate stump]

You misunderstood where the model needs different uvmap channel for different parts. You should just have one uvmap. And what differentiate the part actually are the materials.

[dusk elk]

Oh okay, so I should just make one new UV map? (Sorry im learning blender)

[ornate stump]

No. You already have 2 UVmaps.

[half moth]

Having multiple UV channels is fine and good actually

[ornate stump]

It depends on use case. It isn't necessary in this case.

[half moth]

If you expand the texture slot in Poiyomi you can tell it to use a different UV channel

[dusk elk]

Holy fuck that worked tysm!

[plain mural]

Is it possible to also attach an animation to a visemes? For example, when "S" is activated, the character's tongue appears? (I need to use bones, not a shapekey, since I'm making a snake)

[timber wharf]

@plain mural https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/#built-in-parameters ye use Viseme index

[livid river]

So I have this AoE particle that I want to be able to move depending on where the head is looking. For example if my head is looking down it spawns closer, if it's looking upward it spawns farther. How would I set it up?

[trim prism]

how should i position these cat ears on my head? this is what i did so far but idk if its in the right place

also, how would i get the texture to match my hair? i just used the colour adjust in poi yomi but idk if thats the best way to do it, it looks sorta fine (ill mask out the white bits later if theres no better method)

[ornate stump]

Position is just personal preference. If you like it then just keep it.

For shading, you have to make sure that they are all using the same shader, also adjust the shading(or lighting) option in shader material to match.

[trim prism]

oh yea thats a good point, i didnt change any shading!

[elder latch]

so i got a fbx and in blender it shows textures but when i import it to unity it appears white and there are no textures

im confused

[somber sequoia]

That's normal - you have to setup materials in Unity anyway.

you can export it with those embedded, but you don't actually want to, since that wouldn't allow you to alter the materials in Unity anyway. Just set them up there and apply them to the model.

[prisma monolith]

guys my avatar is supposed to have a glass thing that shows up on the headlights. it appears on the doors but not on the chest glass material. it clearly applies it but its invisible. how do i fix it?

[lilac musk]

Might be that the normals are backward. So you could switch from backface culling to front on the material

[somber sequoia]

inspect the material, perhaps show us the settings.

[somber sequoia]

oh, are you attempting transparency on quest?

[prisma monolith]

yeah, and the weird thing is its the same method on the windows on the doors

and also i should've said, its invisible from the other side too

and applying the same material thats on the windows on the doors makes it invisible still

[lilac musk]

Okay, it's probably not what I was saying then. Something else is going on

[wraith blaze]

click that checkbox thats all ideas i got

[lilac musk]

Could be a blendshape moved it somewhere, but that's all I can think of

[prisma monolith]

checked

[wraith blaze]

dude i know

[wraith blaze]

just add two cubes and position them im so deadass

[prisma monolith]

😭

[wraith blaze]

who cares if its part of the oog model or not

i mean...

Am I wrong?

[prisma monolith]

tbh imma just leave it cuz this is his alt mode

and i animated it to appear with the body as it transforms

so it almost fills in for it and transitions to the glass on the vehicle mode

[wraith blaze]

Tuff

[prisma monolith]

please speed i need this

[untold granite]

i think this is the place to ask but my friend is looking for a specific avatar asset , its a wing asset and it has like a wing controller it can go up down around the avatar n stuff idk how to explain it

[untold granite]

photo of the wings

[somber sequoia]

#1138520828556890214

[frigid basin]

this is more of a headset issue than a direct vrc issue, but it is heavily linked to vrc
i'm trying to use an avatar (specs in attached image)
my quest 2's memory can only go up to half of these (10MB and 40MB)
how do i increase it's memory so i can use all of the avatar's features?

[dusky vigil]

can someone help me start an avater

??

[lilac musk]

Quest limits are because the headset can't do anything more, not a setting. Avatar creators have to optimize their avatars to work with that limitation.

[lilac musk]

This channel is for helping with avatar stuff, so if you have questions, ask them and someone might be able to help

[frigid basin]

so, do i need to get an entirely new headset?

just so the avatar can work?

[elder latch]

ill see if i can find more info on it then

[dusky vigil]

doesn't help btw

[lilac musk]

No, VRChat doesn't allow more than the quests limit on the quest side of the platform. I'd suggest getting a gaming PC and run PCVR, then the limits will be massively higher.

[somber sequoia]

what exactly do you mean?

[lilac musk]

What do you want?

[dusky vigil]

like i need help setting up unity and stuff like that to make avatars

[somber sequoia]

start here: https://creators.vrchat.com/sdk

[dusky vigil]

that tells me how to play vrc

[frigid basin]

steam connect with my home internet is.. shit. there's no better way to describe it
the connection reliabilty is worse than the french chauchat
i cannot use my pc to stream vrc to my headset

[somber sequoia]

no, that page tells you how to get unity and get started creating content

[dusky vigil]

oh i didn't see anything abt that

oops im blind

[somber sequoia]

Android versions of avatars are limited so they can run reasonably on a Quest 2 - a "better headset" won't allow you to change those limits, it'll just make those run better. PC is the way to have higher limits

[lilac musk]

You can plug your Quest directly into your PC for wired PCVR, but this is fairly outside of this channel's topic. Might be better to discuss this in another one

[crisp oasis]

so, im having an issue with my avatar's radialpuppet for changing the shirt color where it resets when it reaches 50%. in the radial puppet in unity i have the value on 1, but when i put it to 0, it still resets when it reaches 50%. I have it set up so that if its <33% the shirt is red, then if its >33% but <66% its black, then if its >66% its white. This issue happens ONLY in-game, and everything works fine in the unity editor. Any help would be much appreciated.

[frigid basin]

would USB-C work fine?

[somber sequoia]

how is this setup?

[somber sequoia]

Yes, but again, this channel is about content creation, not hardware setup.

[frigid basin]

thank you
and, i did'nt really know what channel it'd fit into
this was primarily an avatar/headset issue

[somber sequoia]

I'm not sure either, possibly #quest-general ? Maybe just #1138891887374237706 ?

[crisp oasis]

sorry if its a bit confusing, but thats how it works. theres 3 shirt colors

[somber sequoia]

You generally do not want the same parameter in both of the slots on that control

the "parameter" one sets it to the given value when the radial is active, basically preventing the "rotation" one from working properly.

Remove it from "Parameter"

[lilac musk]

I'd just have 1 animation with all the shirt colors you want, then have motion time being the the parameter with 0 speed. This will make things a lot easier IMO

[crisp oasis]

so Parameter should just be blank?

[somber sequoia]

Also probably you want to use a float type here instead of int

[somber sequoia]

Yes, that is what I said

[somber sequoia]

I'd do it with a blendtree

(because I use direct blendtrees)

[lilac musk]

That too

[dusky vigil]

i need like someone to get in a call so i can screen share bc i need help

[crisp oasis]

do you have any videos on how to do this? i still cant seem to get ts to work properly

just the same issue

[somber sequoia]

can you show one of your transition conditions?

I'm mostly wondering why that's an int variable

[crisp oasis]

yeah. i switched it to using integers and it didnt work in the editor so i switched back to float because floats worked in the editor.

[somber sequoia]

yeah it should be float. IMO you're doing what a blendtree does, just use a blendtree

[crisp oasis]

sry if its a pain, but ive never used or learned how to use blendtrees before. you think you'd be able to help with setting that up?

[somber sequoia]

Unity docs are quite good: https://docs.unity3d.com/2022.3/Documentation//Manual/class-BlendTree.html

even has images

[crisp oasis]

alright lemme see if im not too stupid to read ts

thanks

[somber sequoia]

you just need a "1D" type here:
https://docs.unity3d.com/2022.3/Documentation//Manual/BlendTree-1DBlending.html

[lilac musk]

There are videos on blendtree's as well. It's a pretty common thing in avatars

[crisp oasis]

alright i got it

thanks yall

[somber sequoia]

awesome!

[hasty gorge]

for some reason on my avatar its arm wont change out of being silver colored on the pc version its fine and all the materials are vrchat/mobile/standard lit so i dont know why if anyone can help

[lilac musk]

Can you scroll down a bit more here?

[hasty gorge]

thats why im so confused there should be no issues

[round dock]

Hi everyone! Please help me, I'm having a problem with my avatar in VRChat. I uploaded my model to Unity, opened it in VRChat, and the arms are just hanging and crooked. How can I fix this?

[lilac musk]

Can you show us what they look like in Unity?

[lilac musk]

They are crooked because Unity assumes your avatar to have it's palms facing down

[round dock]

How to fix this? Please help me

[lilac musk]

You'll need to take it back into blender and rotate the hands

[round dock]

And as soon as I change it in blender, I will have to do the whole unity again?

[round dock]

where?

I have another problem: when I sit down, my leg becomes crooked.

[lilac musk]

No, you can override the existing FBX in Unity and it should be fine. Just as long as you don't change the bone names/order.

[lilac musk]

Things on this rig are going to do goofy stuff as it's proportions are fairly different than a human. You can probably make it a little better if you make your own animations

[round dock]

ok

[hasty gorge]

@lilac musk were you able to think of what was wrong

[round dock]

Help please

[lilac musk]

The only thing I can think of is the material is setup wrong or there is a bug.

[lilac musk]

Did you rotate the hands?

[dusky vigil]

Can somebody please help me?

[lilac musk]

With?

[dusky vigil]

Idk everything

I don’t know what to install anything

And I need to learn from talking, not texts

[lilac musk]

I'd watch some tutorials then. Here's a good and fairly recent one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWr4diTDqJM

[dusky vigil]

Is it simple to follow?

[lilac musk]

Probably depends on the person, but it was make with the intention to be for beginners

[round dock]

I don't understand how to rotate them in a blender

[lilac musk]

Hold on, I responded but I think I explained wrong.

[serene egret]

cannot find this avi, help!!

[lilac musk]

You'll need to select your rig, go to pose mode, rotate your hands, go to object mode, select your hand mesh, go to modifiers, apply the armature modifier, select the rig again, go back to pose mode, then click pose > Apply > Apply pose as rest pose, select your mesh again, go to modifiers, add an armature modifier and set it's Object to your rig/armature

I haven't done this too many times so make sure to save before you try it in case my instructions are wrong.

[lilac musk]

#1138520828556890214

[sleek pebble]

can someone help me figure out why my guns arent staying with the body when i move... also my vest disappears (linked with fury armature link) whenever i enter the gesture manager

oddly, this piece that i added onto the vest stays but the rest doesnt

[somber sequoia]

how did you attach these items?

[nova thicket]

so i have my avatar imported into unity, how do i test it

[somber sequoia]

push the play button at the top. Ideally have a testing tool such as Gesture Manager or AV3 Emulator, then it should work mostly like in-game

[nova thicket]

ok

[frigid basin]

how do i connect my headset to my computer?
i tried asking this in community support, but i got an error and it did'nt go through

[somber sequoia]

The thing I said with the play button just plays the scene in Unity, it's not for connecting a headset to. If you want to test with the headset you can just upload the avatar.

[frigid basin]

i think you thought i was the astral guy-

[dusky vigil]

my VCC isn't working

[somber sequoia]

oh yes - but you replied to something I said to them, not sure why?

[frigid basin]

actually yeah, that was stupid

[somber sequoia]

This channel is about content creation, not about how to play the game. Ask about that elsewhere.

[frigid basin]

why did'nt i just @ you

[gentle sand]

Is it possible to edit an avatar made by someone else?

[frigid basin]

tried that, did'nt work, got an error

[somber sequoia]

if you have the source files, sure.

[dusky vigil]

can i get help???

[somber sequoia]

with?

[dusky vigil]

my VCC isn't working

[somber sequoia]

#creator-companion for that

[gentle sand]

Oh, I don't. I'll have to make my own avatar then.

[somber sequoia]

Yep, can't do anything without those

[lilac musk]

You can edit whatever you want as long as you have proper files, Unity, and the SDK. Unless you meant one that is uploaded to VRChat, then no.

Oh didn't see kazin replied already, my bad

[civic rose]

How do you make it so where you do gesture toggle, you don’t have to hold the gesture and it stays

[lilac musk]

Just don't have a transition to turning off the toggle

Though you'd probably want one using something, as the only way to turn it off would be to rewear the avatar or reset it

[nova thicket]

tried to import as humanoid rig, got this

[somber sequoia]

no useful info in that message, sorry

see the first pin in here on how to find/share the useful stuff

[nova thicket]

it was working fine before, but then i fixed the whieght painting on the bones and it broke

[somber sequoia]

Describe "broke"

I'm betting it's just a matter of exporting with different scaling settings than were previously used

[nova thicket]

i tried to import it as humanoid after fixing wheight painting and got this

it didnt do that before weight painting

[somber sequoia]

Open the section it tells you to open and read the message therein

[nova thicket]

ooooooohhh

[somber sequoia]

Yeah - I feel like many people post this exact error without having actually read it.

[nova thicket]

i had my bones named wrong 💀

[fickle walrus]

How do I fix this?

[somber sequoia]

technically names don't matter, but you probably have one named the same as a mesh object?

[somber sequoia]

really hard to guess what this is about from just that

[somber sequoia]

Yep, the name still doesn't matter, but if it's funny, Unity might not have guessed right, so click "configure" in that dialog and see what it's got in that bone slot

[fickle walrus]

Idk either. Downloaded the avi and I'm tryna get it into VRC but that stops me

[somber sequoia]

put the right one in if you need to

[somber sequoia]

I'm guessing you have a texture slot with a broken reference in it, but you'd have to check the material to see

[nova thicket]

idk where the configure button is

[somber sequoia]

in the image you just posted

[nova thicket]

ooh

nvm

sorry im so blinf

[fickle walrus]

OK Ima try reimporting maybe that'll fix the reference

[somber sequoia]

I wouldn't expect so, unless you specifically unchecked something in the package before

[nova thicket]

so i did the config and clicked apply, what now

i dont want it to reset accidentally

[somber sequoia]

was the right bone in that leg slot?

[nova thicket]

yeah

its all green now

everythings correct

[somber sequoia]

ah, good

[nova thicket]

do i just try and build it now?

or do i hit done? idk

[gusty plaza]

dumb question but my sdk is apparently not at least 3.9.0, how do i fix that? Do i just update CC or something else?

[fickle walrus]

now its this

[somber sequoia]

Yeah CC or Alcom is where you update the SDK

[gusty plaza]

Ok so i did good updating my CC then

Gonna try uploading again, ty

[somber sequoia]

Suggestion: delete that Poiyomi folder in Assets and install the latest shader the new way, via VCC or Alcom, and upgrade materials. I suspect what you have is a really old version that doesn't play nice with new stuff.

Beyond that, Poiyomi discord can probably help

[fickle walrus]

Whats the latest shader called

[somber sequoia]

... poiyomi?

[fickle walrus]

oh right

sorry

[gusty plaza]

i updated my CC and it still says my sdk is outdated and my id is not allowed to be used??

[somber sequoia]

VCC version has nothing to do with the version of the SDK in your project.

in VCC or Alcom, click on the option to manage the project, and upgrade the SDK therein

[gusty plaza]

Ohhh ok sorry

[slim osprey]

if I want to change the colour of my hair for creating a radial toggle for changing colour what am i supposed to target for animation from the hair material?

I dont really see a hue option toggle I can only set custom colors from main color / 2nd and 3rd 🤔 so is changing hue color not doable for this hairstyle?

[somber sequoia]

I'm assuming the Hue slider at the bottom-right of this image. I don't use this shader but that seems right, you'd setup a mask so it only targets the hair mesh.

[gusty plaza]

-# I think i fixed my shit and this isnt asking for much help anymore but Kazin you're legit the goat, helping like 4 people at once is a HARD thing to do. Youre awesome chat tysm

[somber sequoia]

eh, I'd say I'm more hinting than helping 🙂

[gusty plaza]

Still it deserves appreciation :]

[slim osprey]

am i to move one of the mask into the color adjust mask place?

[somber sequoia]

if one of those is a mask for the hair, sure, probably

[somber sequoia]

is that the only error in the console?

[sleek pebble]

I got them from another avatar I have

The vest however is an asset

And it was showing up fine before I’m pretty sure

But when I use fury armature link it disappears

[somber sequoia]

You answered "where did you get these" not "how did you attach them"

[sleek pebble]

Oh mb, I dragged them under the base hierarchy and did armature link

[somber sequoia]

ah ok

[sleek pebble]

The person who made the belt also made the vest, idk why the vest is tweaking out tho

[opaque thicket]

anyone has a potential fix to the scarf just clipping into my body? (i want it to fall on my bodu, but not clip trough it if that makes sense)

[somber sequoia]

does it have physbones? I usually prefer to use a limiter for this, colliders are a bit janky

[opaque thicket]

yes it does

[opaque thicket]

soo how could i possibly fix the clipping issue?

[balmy barn]

go playmode, mess with angle limits until it wont go inside mesh , copy value / paste after playmode

simple one on chest, adjusting value until it stops going inside

[somber sequoia]

Yeah - use limiters with a curve, less on the top where it'll collide, more on the ends so they hang free

[opaque thicket]

ah

alr ty

[slim osprey]

Can someone help me with creating a radial hue toggle for hair. I tried making it but when I use the radial toggle the hair color doesnt change

[opaque thicket]

so uhm, small issue, the limits arent doing anything

[indigo compass]

Pretty sure that is one of the settings you might have to disable and re-enable the physbone component for it to apply

[opaque thicket]

in play mode or outside of playmode?

[indigo compass]

Also, the first physbone you edit isn't even turned on

[indigo compass]

In play mode

[opaque thicket]

oki

[opaque thicket]

ok so i tried re-enabling the physbone multiple times and it dont work still

[indigo compass]

I would personally use physbone colliders though, they aren't amazing, but they work.

[opaque thicket]

how do i do that then

[indigo compass]

You click the chest bone and add a physbone collider component, go back to the scarf physbone and drag drop the chest bone into the "colliders" list (which starts as 0, meaning no slots, set it to 1 to set the one chest bone in there)

[opaque thicket]

still somehow does not work

[indigo compass]

Well then it sounds like the scarf physbone you are interacting with isn't the right physbone

[opaque thicket]

what?

eh whatever ill try to figure this out later

thanks fo help anyway

[indigo compass]

Could also just be that you made the collider too large (and maybe that the scarf physbone needs a collider radius, so it has thickness instead of being just a line, don't think this should be required though)

[main fiber]

Id like to make a float that everytime it goes over 80%, will play a particle but not remove the ones that have already played so they don't disappear until their lifetime is up. how can I make my particle system play a new one without removing the old ones/making them disappear?

[slim osprey]

I followed these steps

1. create paramater named: Bandhair hue Float Default: 0 Saved: Check Synced: check.
2. Animation tab and create new clip, named : Bandhair hue
3. select hair, record in ainmation and change the hue to -0.5 (to the very left) then change frame and change hue to 0.5 very right.
4. Checked color hue is working between keyframes. Stop recording. Select preview
5. Animator layers make bandhair hue weight 1 then parmaters float toggle same name : bandhair hue
6. Create new state from blend tree check motion time select bandhair hue :
7. Blend tree add motion field add Bandhair hue.anim
8. Add it to the gesture manager wherever you want it with radial puppet and rotation bandhair hue float.
   But even after all this when i use the radial toggle the color hue changer doesnt seem to work, any idea as to what i can do?

[main fiber]

right click on the name of the sliders you changed (Hue, Saturation, ...) and enable "animated (when locked)"

[slim osprey]

you mean to right click on the hue over here?

[main fiber]

yea, if you click on the name, does it give you an option for that?

[slim osprey]

when i right click on it nothing shows up

[main fiber]

mm, some shaders would give you something like this when right clicking on the name. shaders lock automatically and animated when locked would stop it from doing that for that specific value

im not sure about liltoon then, thought they did the same thing

[slim osprey]

do you think it might have anything to do with the fx?

Ahh I think that is the case 😭

Because hair swap was working when i went through the steps like so

And the new one i created for color isnt listed here

😭

[main fiber]

yea I trust that your Fx is made correctly, it seems fine the way you described it

[slim osprey]

praying it works now that th eblend tree is where it should be 🤞🏽

YES!

[sleek pebble]

i managed to get the plate carrier to stay during play but for some reason it rotates😭

[gaunt knoll]

You using armature link

[sleek pebble]

what else would i use?

[gaunt knoll]

Blender

[sleek pebble]

the other asset from this guy works with armature link tho

[gaunt knoll]

Yeah but that's how your meant to use is blender and link it to the Avi

But

In the settings of armature link

Make sure you press
align position
Align rotation

[sleek pebble]

yeah its all aligned

[gaunt knoll]

If it's checked then uncheck it

[sleek pebble]

which makes it even weirder that it's doing what it's doing

oh okay

[sleek pebble]

it workeddddd thank you🙏

[gaunt knoll]

Amazing

[main fiber]

^

[fickle walrus]

downloading and built an avi, but its animations aren't i appearing. Have I missed something?

[night ember]

https://github.com/VRLabs/Particle-Bufferer

[somber sequoia]

ooh I didn't know about that repo

[somber sequoia]

yeah that's a poi thing, I didn't think anyone else did that?

[slim osprey]

why is it that when i work on two the third one stops functioning?

[slim osprey]

I Cant get more than two radial puppet for the same mesh to work anyone know how to do so or is it not possible?

[bright tapir]

Does anybody know of an Avatar that's called "Nightclub Highwire"?

It's a Fortnite Character's (Highwire) Head on "Fexa the Pirate Fox's" Body.

It was Formerly Public, but for No Reason, the Maker of the Avatar Took it Away...

[lilac musk]

I'd recommend going to #1204490664637890580 and find VRCTraders. They are a community that takes commissions for avatars/worlds. I'd also be careful of anyone DM'ing you about doing an avatar for you, there are lots of scammers and simply mentioning avatars get's their attention

[foggy swift]

Uhh what do I do

I'm trying to make it quest compatible

[sleek pebble]

anyone know how texture swaps are done? im trying to change the texture of a face using the face image but whenever i do so it doesnt swap correctly

[round bay]

Anyone with experience with the CATS plugin for blender?

I'm trying to make an avatar for vrchat and I'm using the CATS blender plugin for blender 2.92. Under the eye tracking section where I'm supposed to select the bones for my models eyes, I only see a left eye bone but not the right one in the list. I can select both eye bones in edit mode and see them, but they aren't in the list to select for the eye tracking.

[sleek pebble]

there ends up being a weird outline around the mouth and eyes

[left gull]

this doesnt provide anything other then basically saying it was a failed upload, show the topmost 3 errors in the console and a screenshot of the SDK upload panel

[rugged breach]

can somone smarter than me explain?

I'm trying to add gogoloco bc the base i'm using doesn't have it, but when i do i get this error

[foggy swift]

Ok give me a while and I'll get it bc I gotta boot up my old ahh PC and send it then I may wait till tomorrow bc its 1 am for me

[night ember]

fury is terrible but
stop using multiple fix write defaults components

[somber sequoia]

<@&397642795457970181>

[somber sequoia]

wow 2.92 is ancient.
Why are you using this? Just make your eye bones perfectly vertical, with 0 bone roll, and the head at the center of rotation. You don't need cats to do anything here.

[foggy swift]

this is it

[somber sequoia]

there's nothing above that? weird.

[timber saddle]

I need help finding someone to make me my OC I'll pay how ever much

[somber sequoia]

head over to the VRC Traders discord, link is in #1204490664637890580

[timber saddle]

Thx

[timber saddle]

Quick question which one is it

[somber sequoia]

?

that's the name, I don't recall where the link is

[spiral jay]

Um so I have a question. I do I fix her being cross eyed? It’s the aeri head.

[timber saddle]

So just VRC Traders

[vapid hedge]

hey can someone help me how do i export a blender file without having them become tranparent?

[lilac musk]

Looks like the normals are backward. You can correct that in blender by selecting all the problem faces in edit mode, then go to mesh > normals > flip.

[vapid hedge]

uhh i think i did somthin wrong

[lilac musk]

You flipped all of it. You only want to flip the ones that were problems. Try the auto mode, do mesh > normals > calculate outsite

You can also enable this setting to see where the issues are

[vapid hedge]

auto mode?

[slim osprey]

why dont my pants show up when i place them in the pants mesh (They are the edited version from blender)

[lilac musk]

Can you explain more what you did? Not sure what "place them in the pants mesh" means

[vapid hedge]

oh my god thank you sooooooooo much

[lilac musk]

No problem

[vapid hedge]

it worked

now i just need to figure out the hood and rig

[slim osprey]

I had clipping issues so I took the clothing prefab and placed it into blender alongside the sculpted model I did.
then i edited the pants to fit my base model. then i exported as so.
Once I drag the edited pants from the prefab and drag the pants mesh into the mesh field for pants, they show up invisible

[junior void]

Rather replace the file

Like, save over it directly from blender

[slim osprey]

I can try

[junior void]

It'll work unless you unpacked the prefab

[lilac musk]

Honeslty, I've never tried doing it like that. I just bring every asset into blender and assemble the whole avatar there. Along with doing some very simple optimizations

[slim osprey]

oof I tried it and it didnt work everything was gone. and it is unpacked... 😭

[lilac musk]

Yea never unpack. Anyone that tells you to do so are too new themselves to know its not a good thing to tell others to do

[slim osprey]

hmm the youtube tutorials ive seen always unpack them tho 🤔

[lilac musk]

Yup. It's a common thing, but you shouldn't do it on things like models. It ruins the references in Unity making it a huge headache to work on further

[slim osprey]

By models as in the vr avatar or anything such as outfits hair items etc?

[lilac musk]

Well both, it's just a more technical thing and depends on what your doing. A lot of people tell others to do it because they don't use things like blender. They are working around the issue but causing other issues in the process. If they would just use blender, they would never have the problem in the first place

Simular issue to tools like VRCFury. People use it to make toggles, which works, but it doesn't allow you to do more intricate animations and so they learn themselves into a corner. Then they either have to live in a world without awesome animations, or rip the bandaid of and learn the proper way

[slim osprey]

What kind of animations to be specific?

[lilac musk]

Like anything interactive. Pulling out a gun and firing it with an ammo count and working slide. Can't do that stuff with Fury

[harsh thicket]

I already did things like this with VRCFury.

[lilac musk]

Oh? I'd like to see it

[slim osprey]

thnx god im not there yet 😭

[harsh thicket]

This will requiere the "Full Controller" Component to work.
The Toggle component is not enough.

[lilac musk]

What does Full Controller do? I might have to do a dive in their documents

[harsh thicket]

You can Reference one or more Animation controller, Menues and Parameter lists.

You can basicly have a item placeable in the world and interactable in both hands. with animations, contact senders and recivers and so on

I have a free lantern asset atm, I build with VRCFury in mind

[lilac musk]

I don't get it, what does it do? It sounds like it's just combining the already made controllers

[harsh thicket]

in the background:
It takes your referenced Controllers, Menus and Parameters and combines them into your avatar.
If setup correctly, you can even have multiple items of the same prefab on your avatar, without changing anything in the controller

[lilac musk]

Yea, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Creating those controllers. Combining things is useful though, I've just always done it with Avatar Manager 3.0

[harsh thicket]

There is no way arround to create a Controller, in one way or another.

Avatar Manager 3.0 seems to have a destructive workflow approach:
Combines Stuff in extra steps and may requiere extra work with renaming

[sleek pebble]

getting a looping error regarding VRCParentConstraint but im not sure what's happening

[lilac musk]

Exactly my point, toggles are great with fury. But as soon as you want to make more complex stuff, you have to do it the good ol' Unity way

[lilac musk]

Sounds like a bug, have you tried closing and reopening the project?

[sleek pebble]

let me try

[heady rapids]

im trying to make gesture expressions for an existing avatar which already has an FX built it, if i replace the FX for the hand gestures itll break the toggles

is there any way that i can merge the two or import the vrc hand gesture layers into the existing FX?

[ornate stump]

Gesture layer and FX layer aren't the same so you can't just call gesture layer "FX".

[heady rapids]

Its just that ive copied over the hands layer from the vrchat folder to use for my gestures and ive been told to import that into my FX on my avatar however it already has one that controls the toggles (im a little new to unity so im a bit confused)

im not sure how else to link expressions to my hands any other way

[ornate stump]

FX mostly refers to "FX layer" in playable layers section which primarily core of avatar toggles. For hand gesture, it's controlled by "Gesture layer", which is a different layer from FX. You could just replace the Gesture layer with a different controller to get different set of hand gesture.

[sleek pebble]

Looks like it worked, thanks

[lilac musk]

I think they want face expressions controlled by gestures

[lilac musk]

So if you want to combine two controllers together, you can use tools that will do it for you, or do it manually yourself. Couple tools I know of are VRCFury and Avatar Manager 3.0. Doing it manually would just mean copying a layer and pasting it into the other controller while also adding any parameters it needs. That can be pretty tedious though

[ornate stump]

Controller logic is controlled by parameters. If you select transition arrow, you will see how parameters are used as condition. Here's the list of built-in parameter https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/

[lilac musk]

Also, if you simply duplicated that gesture animation controller, you'll want to remove the masks on the layers. Not entirely sure how they work myself, but I'm pretty sure it would only cause issues

[heady rapids]

I do already havey VRCFury, do you know how i would go about doing this?

[lilac musk]

I personally have never used it for this, but I'd imagine it's pretty straight forward. I'd either ask in their discord or look at their documentation. From a previous conversation we were just having a few minutes ago, I think the component is called "Full controller".

[heady rapids]

Alr ty!

[ornate stump]

VRCFury is just a "shortcut". It won't help much if you still don't understand the core of how playable layer is made.

[harsh thicket]

I would say, people should first watch some basic unity tutorials first, to get used to Unity as a tool.
Its otherwise very diffcult to explain stuff

[ornate stump]

Pretty much have to do things by hand first: recording animation, creating transition, etc.

[heady rapids]

Yes I made the animations by scratch, i have basic unity knowledge however i just wasnt experienced with dealing with this specific issue

[heady rapids]

however this did end up working and everything is all good now, thanks for the help both of you :)

[misty musk]

i cant find vertex data???? where is it in blender

wait nvm i got it

[ornate stump]

See? Better to take some time to look through.

[opal canopy]

how do I make something only visible on pc and how do I enable avatar imposter

[ornate stump]

Use tracking type parameter for transition condition https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters#trackingtype-parameter

[ornate stump]

And what do you mean enable avatar imposter?

[opal canopy]

like where it shows a really low resolution of the avi for others instead of a fallback

[ornate stump]

But enable for what purpose?

[opal canopy]

just want to make sure we are on same page, im meaning for pc(vr) and hidden on quest

sorry if i missed something

[opal canopy]

nvm found it

[ornate stump]

So you rather mean having it generates imposter avatar?

[opal canopy]

yea I kinda would prefer people to see imposter rather than my fallbackj

but I think I found it

[ornate stump]

You could remove the object from avatar when you build for Quest platform.

[opal canopy]

so since im on this i can just delete the stuff and it will be fine?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[opal canopy]

okay thank you so much for the help just wanted to make sure I didnt corrupt my entire avi, thank you

also one last question, can I do the same for shaders, like set quest to the mobile ones but for pc I can set it to the non mobile one

[ornate stump]

Yes

[opal canopy]

thank you so much again

[exotic slate]

how to upload the avatar for both pc and quest ?

[ornate stump]

Switch build target to either PC and Android, and build publish avatar twice for both target.

[exotic slate]

do i need to find a package that in PC/QUEST ? or i can just choose PC package, QUEST package to do it ?

[ornate stump]

That depends on the avatar author on however they package the avatar. If it has both PC/Quest in same package, that means either the avatar prefab can support both platform in one, or just have 2 avatar prefabs for 2 platforms in just one package.

[exotic slate]

the author have it in different

seperate

[ornate stump]

Then import those 2 packages.

[opal canopy]

@ornate stump i swapped back to windows and now its over written everything

[ornate stump]

What do you mean over written everything?

[opal canopy]

its now basically duplicated what I had for android

[ornate stump]

In unity or you had uploaded it?

[opal canopy]

so I had made my avi and it was uploaded for windows, then I wanted to make it cross platform and then I asked for your help, i swapped my build platform to android and deleted the excess stuff and uploaded to android, then I swapped back to windows and it overwrit the origional windows model (in unity its got changed)

was I supposed to make different project files?

[ornate stump]

You rather have to duplicate the avatar in the scene first because you're actually editing the avatar itself.

[exotic slate]

so i can just make 1 project for it right ?

[opal canopy]

https://klipy.com/gifs/drake-computer-1

i get it now

[ornate stump]

Probably. Or just go to read the instructions the author give.

[opal canopy]

thank you for the clarification

[harsh thicket]

I made a laser poiner like asset, but the laser goes right trough players, but stops at walls and such (world elements).
Is it possible to have laser collide with other players, at least the capsule collide arround other players should be possble?
These are the collision settings:

[slim osprey]

Can someone help me import a fbx, edit and export it successfully into unity again. IF someone can get on call with me max 5-10 minutes or less?

is importing as simple as clicking import fbx?

[ornate stump]

Mostly yes.

[slim osprey]

well then so far ive only selected pants and edited it : what settings do i use to export it once ichange back to object mode?

[ornate stump]

Most of the time it's Apply Scalings change to FBX All.

[slim osprey]

well i tried that and still nothing shows up

[ornate stump]

You had "original prefab" in the scene which doesnt' have data link to the original fbx file. You have to put new fbx file into the scene, and do not Unpack Prefab.

[slim osprey]

so am i to remove the c prefab from hierarchy and import unitypackage for the outfit again to asset and upload it to hierarchy?

[ornate stump]

Remove the c prefab from hierarchy. Then put the FBX file you exported back into the scene.

[balmy gyro]

does anyone know the best way to rig digitigrade legs? just rigging them like standard human legs doesnt really look right

[somber sequoia]

I've got one that works pretty well but it's kinda complicated and I couldn't really explain it easily. There are a few methods I've seen around, most use two sets of bones, one for moving the legs, one for your body to move, and then you use rotation constraints to have the "IK" legs drive the ones that move the model.

also.... any of these methods is going to have to be customized to the specific model you have.

[proud timber]

Hey, got 2 questions, to start can anyone give advice on how to make like a digital eye screen?

[somber sequoia]

can you describe or show what that is?

[proud timber]

Yeah holdon

so id like to fit like a digital eye on this, like how protogen avatars do

i can try to find an image of what i mean by digital eye

[somber sequoia]

okay so it's just a texture in a material, applied to a specific face on the model

[proud timber]

how do they animate them?

[somber sequoia]

could be a sprite sheet, could be a custom shader

[night ember]

could be a funny low poly circle plane that has blendshapes

[proud timber]

i see i see, ill have to learn how to do that

[somber sequoia]

yeah deforming a mesh is a pretty decent way to do it

[proud timber]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jfk-clone-high-1

sorry lol this is all foreign language to me 😭

[balmy gyro]

ohh.. do u have any tutorial videos that can help? its really complicated for me

[balmy gyro]

damn

[somber sequoia]

I don't know of any tutorial videos, sorry.

[proud cobalt]

#avatar-help message

I'm just going to repost this since I'm still struggling with the same issues,,,

[somber sequoia]

first pic: how did you attach it?
second: what about this is wrong?

[proud cobalt]

I dragged the hair asset onto the avatar first (in the hierarchy, not the scene) so that I could move and place it as I want, because when I drag the asset onto the "head" thingy in the side hierarchy, it doesn't allow me to make any changes to it whatsoever. So I first dragged it onto the avatar itself, again the hierarchy, then I moved it and used the transform tool to make it fit my avi's head better, then I dragged it onto the head in the hierarchy.
I'm not sure if the part on the left where there's a list of all assets and such is called a hierarchy but that's what I'm talking about.

The second pic is just messy? I didn't use to see all these green lines in play mode before. And when I just want to tilt her head only to check if her hair moves properly, it doesn't let me.
In playmode it only lets me select the whole avatar and only then can I move it, but it's full of those bright lines and I can't see anything, honestly. Just messy.

[somber sequoia]

Is the hair asset a VRCFury prefab or something?

pic 2 is because you have "gizmos" enabled, upper-right of the Scene view, the icon looks like a globe.

[loud arrow]

when you load into the avi it reseats the base rotation so how could i make it face world on load not local

[proud cobalt]

I'm going to check to make sure, but I just downloaded the hair from BOOTH, then dropped the package into my scene and then dragged the prefab hair onto the avatar (in the hierarchy)

[somber sequoia]

If it's just a model with no stuff to link it to the avatar, just dropping it on won't make it move with the armature.

[proud cobalt]

It does have an armature in on its own, though.
If I drag the hair directly onto the head, it moves with the avi as it should, but I can't move or shape it with the transform tool if I attach it that way.

[somber sequoia]

"transform tool"?

oh you're trying to reposition or resize it in unity?

[proud cobalt]

Yeah, on unity. I can move stuff, rotate, scale, and kinda squish things which I call transform.

[somber sequoia]

yep, that's all transforming

[proud cobalt]

I can't do that if I attach the hair and all the other things in the asset to the head directly, which is why I first attach it to the whole avi itself, shape it, then drag all of it back onto the head.

It'll be easier with a picture but Unity is loading so I'll send it when it opens,,,,

[loud arrow]

?

[somber sequoia]

not sure I understand what you're asking or what that video is showing

[loud arrow]

when i swap in and out of avi the points oriantaion changes ment to be a compas

[somber sequoia]

"points orientation"?

[pine valley]

there is a ring of cubes around the avatar

[pine valley]

Create a new prefab and use that as the source

[somber sequoia]

oh, I wasn't sure what that was supposed to be

[pine valley]

I use this all the time to get a consistent position or rotation

I've created avatars that overlay effects onto specific worlds that way

[loud arrow]

ok thx

[proud cobalt]

Now I've got another issue entirely, not sure what this even means.

[pine valley]

this just means that unity tried to show a custom material editor

but it failed to do so

i don't use lilToon much

so I don't have any good ideas for why that's happening

it's possible you only have the shader itself in your project

and that you don't have the scripts that are used for the custom material editor

[somber sequoia]

might have got the shader with the avatar but you should probably install it yourself

[proud timber]

@somber sequoia hey do you happen to have like a specific website for free assets you use? Or do you make all of yours yourself?

Im after like a hydraulic cylinder im havin a hard time finding one and also am wondering how itll work with animating movement (first time)

[pine valley]

hard objects are generally easy to animate

(well, they're very easy to rig, as compared to squishy things)

each part of the model follows one bone, rather than stretching between several bones

so even if you don't find a rigged model, it would be relatively easy to rig up

I dunno where I'd look for that, though

[proud timber]

Thankfully i dont have any squishy pieces atm 😭

For some context, im looking to replace the muscles connecting your jaw and skull (yk what makes your jaw go up and down) with hydraulics, so i wanna find a piston/cylinder i can use for it

[proud cobalt]

I usually make variants, and when I opened the project the variants were all white, so I just deleted them and now only have the main materials and textures that came with the package.

[pine valley]

"variants"?

you mean material variants?

[proud cobalt]

Yes.

[pine valley]

if you only have the shader code (so, .shader and .cginc files), then you won't have the custom editor code

[pine valley]

It's also possible that this one shader has a messed up custom editor definition

I noticed that it's "Hidden/lilToonOutline", which is a bit odd

anything starting with Hidden/ won't show up in the shader picker

[somber sequoia]

I tend to make my own, and only know of the usual ones, such as sketchfab and turbosquid.

[proud timber]

Sketchfabs been getting on my nerves, its trying to make me create an acc with epic

Will check out turbosquid!!! Btw are free assets frowned upon? Not that it matters ig cuz this is just for me and not for distribution

[somber sequoia]

credit (or pay) artists as per their terms of service

[proud timber]

How does one do that? I mean for public assets, i can make some my own but some things (cough cough teeth cough cough) really arent my specialty

[proud cobalt]

I once again have to wait for unity to open up..

[somber sequoia]

surely that depends on what the artist wants?

[pine valley]

VRChat actually gives you a place to attribute assets now

I use that for any CC-BY licensed assets

[somber sequoia]

I've published a bunch of open source software, always put my license clearly in the repo/package.

[pine valley]

you fill it in on the website

(i need to fix this up for some of my avatars...)

[proud timber]

Well ig i dont know where to find what they want, i just have some objects i got off a database, hasnt really specified except for use privately (which i dont intend on distributing)

[pine valley]

look at the license terms for each asset

[somber sequoia]

I certainly don't either without researching the specific asset you're talking about

[pine valley]

of course, all of this barely matters in non-commercial private-use settings

[proud timber]

🫡 🫡 🫡 im sure its nothing terrible being free assets and all, thanks twin!

[pine valley]

but it's nice to give credit where it's due

(and it can help other people find and use the assets, too)

[proud timber]

Oh yeah that makes sense, ill have to document them all so i can direct accordingly

[proud timber]

Yeah lol, im just making an avatar for use for vrchat/resonite (im unsure abt that but when i get a pcvr i told my friend id check it out with him), if it were for like selling stuff i definetly see the problem with not crediting. Thank you!

[pine valley]

i really gotta get back into that game

i played a ton of it years ago

it appeals to the kind of person that has a project car

[proud timber]

I mean hes hyped it up a bit, it seems really interesting in terms of how complex some of the UI sounds

👋

Im ok! Been in a zoom call for the last 3 hours while learning how to make an avatar, you?

Noo im an idiot 😭 i just dont enjoy avatar options and wanted to try to make my own

Oh no, im learning myself! Definetly a struggle at times 😭

Dreading learning how to texture

[loud arrow]

ummm idk what i did

[proud timber]

Yeah! We'll get there eventually

[proud timber]

Spin 😎

[pine valley]

this prefab should not be added to your avatar

it should just be a completely empty prefab with nothing on it

call it "World Anchor" or something

[loud arrow]

? like it doesnt get uploaded

what?

[pine valley]

The prefab will get included with the built avatar

It's an asset, just like a material or a texture

You're pointing the constraint at the prefab itself, not at an instance of the prefab on your avatar

[loud arrow]

like this?

[pine valley]

The prefab should not be on your avatar at all.

[loud arrow]

ah

[pine valley]

Its only job is to be the target of the constraint

Your HUD itself will still be on your avatar, of course

e.g. here's my "world anchor" prefab

and here's my VRC Rotation Constraint that uses it

I use this to prevent part of my avatar from ever rotating

You can use the same trick to prevent part of your avatar from scaling!

just use a VRC Scale Constraint

[proud cobalt]

Here's what it looks like.

[loud arrow]

so likt this not inside?

[somber sequoia]

you seem to be indicating a skinned mesh renderer

[pine valley]

"Ancor" is not a prefab. It's just a normal game object in your scene right now

Right click in the Project window and go to Create > Prefab

This will make a new empty prefab asset

[pine valley]

I'm pretty sure that, in this case, the "Ancor" object wouldn't get included with the built avatar

since it's not an asset (it's not in the Project window) and it's not attached to your avatar

[loud arrow]

is this correct settings?

[pine valley]

Turn off "Freeze to World".

also, is "Ancor" now an actual prefab asset, or is it still an object in your scene?

if you haven't changed that, the trick won't work

[pine valley]

Delete Ancor from the scene entirely

It should not exist anywhere in the scene.

Drag the prefab asset itself into the "Source Transform" property of the rotation constraint

[loud arrow]

does the prefab need to have anything on it?

[pine valley]

No

[pine valley]

The point is that this prefab has a fixed position/rotation/scale

it just floats in the void

That looks correct now

See how that behaves in game

(and try it in the editor, too!)

with Gesture Manager, you can move and rotate the Gesture Manager object

[loud arrow]

ok in gesture manager its fine but starts to spin when uploaded

[pine valley]

It may be fighting with the "Show in First Person" VRCFury component

notably, i see that it's using its own constraints to make that work

My first thought would be to set it up like this:

• Root <-- has "Show in First Person"
  • Hud <-- has the rotation constraint

[loud arrow]

k

[loud arrow]

going to try to remove it to see if it works

[proud cobalt]

Why isn't the outline for the X bandaids as smooth and connected as the other outlines? It looks disconnected in some places.

[loud arrow]

ok that didnt even fix the spin

[vague cedar]

im having a slight issue with blender sculpting. i usually use the draw brush to fill in clothes areas that clip or dont fit. when i try the same brush on the shoes it does the opposite that is it tears the boots. anyone have any idea how i can fix this please?

[pine valley]

this could be because the bandaids are clipping into your body

[pine valley]

can you show me your current setup? hierarchy + inspectors for each object

[lilac musk]

#3d-modeling Might be a good place to ask as well

[proud cobalt]

Tysm.

Does anyone here know how to fix the shading issue here? All those accessories that appear orange are actually a very light white-pink, but when I walk under a low-lit area they just turn a dark orange like that. Yet the rest of the avi doesn't react to light like that, how can I make them match?

[loud arrow]

fps of vid cant showe but its flickering every frame

[loud arrow]

sent

omg i am using wrong rot point i thought i needed y but it need to be z

thx

wait new problem now t-t

ok fixed that now need y and z

[pine valley]

oh, did you have the rotation constraint set to only control a single axis?

[loud arrow]

yes

[pine valley]

that can cause some really funny behaviors

i still don't fully understand how that works out

importantly, the meaning of your X rotation depends on your Y rotation, and the same goes for Z and XY

[timber wharf]

@proud cobalt first, youd need to check and compare materials, they may be setup differently. 2nd, you need to make sure you have anchor override setup on every mesh to the same bone (chest usually)

[quartz yacht]

Avatar contact recievers seem to be triggered by the avatar's global contacts even when "self" is turned off? Specifically something I noticed with Marshmallow PB: In certain circumstances, the "breast contacts with others" will squish them in prematurely when on.

I narrowed down the bug to the contact recievers detecting the avatar torso. BUT these contact recievers are set up to only detect other player's contacts?

I know for sure this is the case because:

Only avatar in the testing scene in Unity
Play mode: the contact shows as something being within the limits (proximity)
Issues go away the moment I disable my avatar's torso contacts.

Any way to fix this? Is it maybe a bug with modular avatar making the contacts at build time? idk. it's just an annoying bug idk how to fix

[lilac musk]

Have you only tested this in Unity? It might not happen in game, so if you haven't tested that yet, might be worth doing

[violet maple]

I have a problem. I used the VRC Head Chop to hide a cape and it works, but it doesn't work on some maps. How do I fix this?

[ornate stump]

What are some maps for example?

[violet maple]

Freddy Fazbear's Virtual Pizzeria

[ornate stump]

It doesn't work as the cape is fully shown instead of hiding?

[violet maple]

Well, basically when I activate it, I see it as if it's in my vision, but I put VRC Head Chop on and that fixed it. However, on certain maps, it cancels VRC Head Chop, and I don't know how to fix it.

[hard hatch]

So I tried re-importing an edited fbx into unity, however, the mesh is not visible at all. I madr sure that the correct mesh was selected on the body, but it will not appear in the scene. Does anyone know why this is happening?

[ornate obsidian]

Howdy, random issue Idk how to fix time.

My model is exporting with a blendshape I have turned off in blender set as the default shape in unity (which makes the rest of the blendshapes stop working when I try to turn one on).

I have re-exported the FBX from Blender with Apply Modifiers turned off. I duplicated the blendshape and deleted the original, and I even imported the fbx into a clean blender project (where it had the same import issue). The basis shape is still there and hasn't been replaced.

I have NO IDEA how to fix this. I have no idea what I can possibly do besides restarting the model entirely.

If anyone knows how to fix this, PLEASE TELL ME. I have no idea what's causing this.

[analog fog]

does anyone know the number for each gesture

[prisma monolith]

is it possible to port this to unity? im new with managing this type of rig, i bought this from someone and im trying to see if its even possible at all to upload it

[violet maple]

?

[desert sonnet]

can someone dm me and help me make my model work better for mmd worlds

[sleek pebble]

trying to upload an avatar with the same base as another and the sdk thinks the avatars are the same, how do i change that?

and ignore the performance stuff

[lilac musk]

You need to clear the pipeline manager ID

[lilac musk]

Can you explain more what you mean by "turned off in blender set as the default shape in unity"?

[violet maple]

I'm asking again but I have a problem. I used the VRC Head Chop to hide a cape and it works, but it doesn't work on some maps. How do I fix this?

[lilac musk]

That sounds like a bug. What world you're in shouldn't change something like that on your avatar

[sleek pebble]

is that in the content manager? i think i saw ID mentioned in there

[violet maple]

The problem is that it does this on 80% of the maps I visit.

[lilac musk]

It's on the base of your avatar, where the avatar descriptor is

[ornate obsidian]

The blendshape is turned off completely in blender, but for some reason is shown as the import default without being on. Basically like it replaced the basis shape

[violet maple]

Do you have a component that does the same thing?

[sleek pebble]

ah okay thank you

[lilac musk]

Oh strange. I've never heard of something like that happening

[lilac musk]

Not that I know of

[ornate obsidian]

Sobs

[violet maple]

And can I fix the problem?

[lilac musk]

Well if it's a bug in the SDK, you could try reuploading the avatar in a new project. If it's a bug in game, you probably can't do much. Is the item part of your head mesh? Cause if it wasn't, you could just toggle it off locally. You wouldn't see it on yourself at all though

[ornate obsidian]

If it'd help at all, I can give a video in a second of what I mean? Maybe? Idk I'm desperate for help lol

[lilac musk]

Maybe? But really it just sounds like something is getting screwed up. I don't know enough about the lower level of blendshapes/vertex data to even be able to guess in what way though or how to fix it

[violet maple]

Okay, it's an item of clothing, but it has a bug by default. I can see it in my field of vision, so I used the VRC Head Chop, and that fixed the problem, but in certain worlds it's like the VRC Head Chop

[ornate obsidian]

Neither do I. I've never had this happen before.

Hold on

[lilac musk]

If it already has something bugging out, then that's likely why the head chop is also bugging out. So the solution is probably fixing the first issue

[violet maple]

And how do I do that?

[lilac musk]

I don't know enough about the first bug to say, just that you said you can see it in your FOV

[violet maple]

How do I hide it from myself?

[lilac musk]

If it's just a separate mesh, you can make an animation that turns it off, but only for you using the 'IsLocal' parameter.

[violet maple]

I don't know how to do that

[ornate obsidian]

UPDATE I FIXED IT!
I accidentally had the blendshape selected in edit mode! I didn't know that made it the default according to unity somehow!!

[lilac musk]

So question, why do you tell it not to apply modifiers? I've never seen someone do that, but I'd also not imagine that would affect it, but everything else you did seemed normal.

Oh, just saw your message saying you fixed it

lol

[ornate obsidian]

It's advice I saw when I googled it first lol!
If a blendshape is on and won't turn off, sometimes turning off apply modifiers will reset the blendshapes to default on export

So it was the first thing I tried

[lilac musk]

You'll need to learn about making animations and animation controllers. It's a pretty complex topic, but the thing you need to accomplish is pretty simple so it shouldn't be too bad

[lilac musk]

Ah, interesting. Overall that still seems like an odd behavior for it to apply it when your simply in edit mode, but it's blender. It's got its quirks

[ornate obsidian]

Fr, it's never done that before. Nooo idea why it did it LOL

[violet maple]

Isn't there just a toggle to hide it from myself?

[lilac musk]

Actually, you could simply make it a normal toggle, then just make sure the sync on the parameter isn't enabled

[violet maple]

Too complicated for me

[somber sequoia]

In the vrchat docs: https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters#gestureleft-and-gestureright-values

[somber sequoia]

what I do for this is when I export from Blender, under "Geometry", I set "smoothing" to "face", and then in the Unity import settings I use "import" for the normals instead of "calculate" or enabling legacy.

[lilac musk]

It could be that the small amount of compression that happens is causing it to start to clip. Either way you could just move the nail up away from the thumb a small amount

[nocturne crescent]

unfortunately it completely shifts/lifts off the thumb whenever you move your hands so lifting it wouldnt stop it from doing that

[lilac musk]

Sounds like a weight painting issue of the thumb then

[nocturne crescent]

the weight painting has been tested by like 3 creators and redone twice 😭 the nail moves perfectly with the thumb no matter how its positioned in blender, this issue only happens in unity playtest and ingame

[lilac musk]

The nail is moving with the end thumb bone, but if the thumb itself is deforming strangly, then it could cause clipping. That or if it's got too many weights from other bones and because Unity only uses a max of 4 (I think), then that could cause clipping as well.

[vale mauve]

yo I am trying to make a ava and it is just a error bot and this

[opal canopy]

are you using VCC?

[vale mauve]

what does that mean?\

[opal canopy]

What unity version does it say youa re on right now, it should be in the top left

this is an example

[vale mauve]

this one

[thorn orbit]

make sure that your vrchat sdk is up to date, you cant upload avatars with an sdk older than a certain period now

[opal canopy]

do you have the VRChat Creator Companion installed?

[vale mauve]

yes

[opal canopy]

Are you launching your projects through the creator companion?

[vale mauve]

yes

[opal canopy]

does pressing the auto fix do anything?

[thorn orbit]

you can update it by doing this in creator companion

[nocturne crescent]

so i should try removing weights from the thumbs for the rest of the body to see if that limits it?

[thorn orbit]

i don't use the correct unity version and it works fine lol

[vale mauve]

I did that

and it is still a error bot

[thorn orbit]

if you have the pumkin's avatar tools addon you can try removing empty scripts, that usually solved error bot for me when it happened, or deleting the avatar blueprint and uploading again as a new avatar

[vale mauve]

I delet it and then upload it

[naive mango]

Having some issues uploading, any ideas?

[somber sequoia]

nothing useful in those messages - see the first pin for help on how to share relevant bits. tl; dr: the first 2-3 errors in the console are most relevant

[naive mango]

then idk what im supposed to do

it says check the console

and this is what the console says

[somber sequoia]

it says only that?

[naive mango]

yes

all 3 screenshots is what i see

it says "build failed, check console for more details" i then posted everything in console

[somber sequoia]

okay, none of that is useful, unfortunately

maybe look at the build stats window, there may be some error there

[naive mango]

build stats window?

[somber sequoia]

above the "build and publish" button, where it tells you about polygons and materials and such

[vale mauve]

sad

[proud timber]

@somber sequoia hey are you good with textures?

[somber sequoia]

Please don't ping me for new questions.

[proud timber]

Uh... alright... sorry i guess? Just wanted a reccomendation for a texture

[sweet prawn]

?

[drowsy crane]

Anyone know how do I apply the blush on the Nardoragon avatar?

[sweet prawn]

check in the blendshapes

[drowsy crane]

Huh

How do I check that?

[sweet prawn]

click on the base body and check under the thing labeled blendshapes

actually is it a texture thing your trying to apply or a toggle?

[drowsy crane]

Nothing pops up in blendshapes

Its a texture, but not a material

[sweet prawn]

ok then in the material for the body you would drop that in as a decal, also on that texture click the checkmark that says "alpha is tranparency"

[drowsy crane]

Decal? Im sorry idk about unity that much😭

[sweet prawn]

your good, in your case bc your using standard put it where it says "detail mask"

id recomend switching it to "toon standard" too if you can, it gives you more options for shading

[drowsy crane]

Ok I added it in, now what?

[sweet prawn]

it should have just applied, if you dont see it then it might be bc your head and body are seperate materials

[drowsy crane]

Not at all lol

[sweet prawn]

ive never worked with nardo as a base

do you have a different mat for the head?

[drowsy crane]

Nope

[sweet prawn]

ok then switch the material to "toon standard" and try to do it there?

[drowsy crane]

I did, the blush texture is here now

[sweet prawn]

yea put it to "detail texture" and not mask

and check it on ofc

[drowsy crane]

Yup, does it have to be one of the detail masks, or both?

[sweet prawn]

just on the texture one

[drowsy crane]

Okay, I had it on both lol

[sweet prawn]

may i ask: is the blush made for nardo or a different base?

[drowsy crane]

It came with the nardo

Im thinking of retexturing as orange thi

Just gotta find out how to get it working first

[sweet prawn]

ok just wanted to see bc it looked like its supposed to overlay on a different texture

[drowsy crane]

Hmm

[sweet prawn]

which is why i asked if it has a seperate head material lol

[drowsy crane]

Oh lol

[sweet prawn]

yea

[drowsy crane]

Well should it work now?

[sweet prawn]

cuz if i assume the head is at the top the blush doesnt look like is lines up so im just confused

[sweet prawn]

its still on the mask not detail and you somehow locked it lol

its should only be in detail texture, not detail mask

[drowsy crane]

Fuh, one sec lol

[sweet prawn]

if it worked you would see it appear on the face

plus doesnt nardo use poiyomi normally or am i drippin?

[drowsy crane]

It do

[sweet prawn]

this the quest ver then?

[drowsy crane]

Nah

[sweet prawn]

then why are you not using poi?

[drowsy crane]

I dont have much experience with this

[drowsy crane]

Idk how to re-apply it

[sweet prawn]

your good

[sweet prawn]

when you opened up the nardo did it show up pink?

[drowsy crane]

Yeah sadly

[sweet prawn]

then you didnt have poiyomi installed

[drowsy crane]

Where do I install that?

[night ember]

drag it in like the nardo unity package

[drowsy crane]

Im about to install it into the project rn

[sweet prawn]

yee you can drag and drop it

[drowsy crane]

Alr I installed poyomi toon and pro

[sweet prawn]

i would also recomend for future reference doing it thru VCC

[drowsy crane]

Thats how I did it lol

[sweet prawn]

select all your materials and change em to poiyomi toon

[drowsy crane]

Alr, one sec tho bc the scene is opening

[sweet prawn]

ye all good

[drowsy crane]

Wtf the blush appears on the arms

[sweet prawn]

yea thats what i meant by "it dont look like its for nardo"

[drowsy crane]

Weird

Also idk how to apply poyomi to everything

[sweet prawn]

hold down shift and select all of em

[drowsy crane]

Right

[sweet prawn]

you can change em all in bulk

[drowsy crane]

Im not finding the poyomi thing tho?

[sweet prawn]

show?

[somber sequoia]

did you install the package into your project? poiyomi.com for instructions

[drowsy crane]

Just how I did it

Wait wtf

The poyomi package disappeared off my project

I swear I added it in.

[sweet prawn]

try adding it again??

[drowsy crane]

Alr I did

Lemme re open this once more

[sweet prawn]

yeyeye

[drowsy crane]

So weird how the blush appears on the arms tho

[night ember]

it doesnt match the uv's of the nardo

like at all

[drowsy crane]

I know

But thats how it came

I can fix it easily tho

[sweet prawn]

yea might be your best bet lowkey

just manually fix the texture to go on the face

[drowsy crane]

Ill just go into a drawing app and scale it correctly

[sweet prawn]

thats so weird tho

[drowsy crane]

Very

[night ember]

whered you even get said blush

[sweet prawn]

id open the base texture and overlay the blush on a different layer where it should go but im pretty sure thats the plan lol

[drowsy crane]

It came with the Nardoragon package

[drowsy crane]

It is lmao

[sweet prawn]

yuuuh lets go no substance painter gang!!

[night ember]

my only assumption is you arent using the poiyomi settings the nardo is supposed to come with

[drowsy crane]

I aint paying for that junk😭 🙏

[sweet prawn]

it imported pink and they had to change it manually back so they most likely reset

[drowsy crane]

Yurp

[sweet prawn]

yuuurp

[night ember]

so you imported it in the wrong order

[drowsy crane]

I didn’t know that I needed poyomi for it

[night ember]

you have to import shaders first

[sweet prawn]

you can also try reimporting the package but ONLY the materials?

[night ember]

also did you make new materials or just swap the shader

[sweet prawn]

i think they swaped

[night ember]

cause error shaders have all the stored data

[drowsy crane]

Swapped

[night ember]

just not the scripts

[drowsy crane]

No clue

Like that?

[sweet prawn]

if im guessing the eyes are here, i think its like this for nardos, i could be wrong tho

[drowsy crane]

It is lol

[sweet prawn]

good my very good very accurate diagram helps lmao

plus thankfully unity updates in real time so you can see and change it as you go till it looks right

[drowsy crane]

Where do I add said texture

[sweet prawn]

decals

[drowsy crane]

Added it

[sweet prawn]

should be the texture for decal 0, again not the mask lol

your good tho, comon mistake

[drowsy crane]

[sweet prawn]

lol

your fine, your still learning afterall C:

[sweet prawn]

you see where theres a "A" next to something called "alpha"? u wanna right click and remove "is animated when locked" and set it to however much you like

if you want the blush to still animate like on the base model and not have it on all the time then just keep it how it is

[drowsy crane]

Ok lol

Uhm that it?

[sweet prawn]

well does it look right?

[drowsy crane]

It doesnt really pop up now

[sweet prawn]

apply the material to the face, like drag it on

[drowsy crane]

Huh

Im so lost

[sweet prawn]

you can also slide the sliders in the material to see if it changes anythin

if not then say

[drowsy crane]

Nope🥀

[sweet prawn]

then take the mat from the bottom and drag it onto the face

[drowsy crane]

That one?

[sweet prawn]

yes :>

[drowsy crane]

I did and nothing rlly happened

[sweet prawn]

huh

[drowsy crane]

And I know that the blush is in the right placement

[sweet prawn]

hmmm

might need to vc this shi fr

[drowsy crane]

Alr

[sweet prawn]

you ok with dm vc?

[drowsy crane]

Yup

[iron thistle]

how do i fix this, im trying to get the arm to bend at the elbow

im a newbie so im prob doing it wrong

[candid osprey]

Say I have a collider on a bone, I want the bone to scale and move, while keeping the collider in its same spot, but let it move with the bone's movement. What should I use? The problem I have right now is when I scale the bone, the collider moves with it, and no longer is able to collide where I want it to.

[ornate stump]

Because it doesn't have edge loop at the elbo so it can't bend the elbow.

[candid osprey]

I wanna say I need a constraint, but I'm not sure.

[iron thistle]

whats an edge loop

[ornate stump]

edge rings that go around your model.

[iron thistle]

😰

[ornate stump]

Do you understand the vertex, edge, face?

[iron thistle]

no

[ornate stump]

Vertex is a dot.
Edge is connection between 2 dots.
Face is assembly of multiple edged into polygon..

[iron thistle]

hmmmmm ok

makes sense

[ornate stump]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DAFS8sga2k

[sweet prawn]

update: we fucking fixed it lol

[quartz yacht]

It occurs in game as well.

[vernal walrus]

my avatar projects got deleted because of onedrive, i had uninstalled it and i was deleting stuff and accidentally wiped my documents folder, i didnt even realize untill i had already cleared the recycle bin too, is there any sort of backup tool? i never... expected something like this so i didnt back it up elsewhere, is there some way to restore projects or if theres automatic backups in VCC?

[ornate stump]

There is no automated backup.

[vernal walrus]

ah.

well. that hurts

[ornate stump]

Hard-learn lesson.

[glass solar]

black border particles do no appear in mirror

also it's using two side

[ornate stump]

Is that transparent mirror?

[glass solar]

personal mirror

[ornate stump]

Is it transparent?

[glass solar]

it's transpearant to remote users

if thats what you mean

[ornate stump]

You sounds like you still misunderstood the question. I asked if the mirror is transparent so it shows only avatar and not world, and the where it isn't showing avatar it can be seethrough.

[glass solar]

what

[ornate stump]

Do you know mirror can be set to show just avatar, or show both avatar and world?

[glass solar]

this

is this what you mean

[ornate stump]

If it doesn't show world and background is seethrough, that's call transparent mirror.

[ornate stump]

The problem of transparent mirror is the edge of transparent object will become opaque.

[glass solar]

yeah but it's a particle

[ornate stump]

It's still an object.

[glass solar]

alr

also dosent help that the black part is alll stutter

[ornate stump]

The stuttering is a different problem so that didn't help.

[ornate stump]

The problem likely is from multiple particles occupied the same distance from the camera, and that cause them to fight each other to render on the same space.

[glass solar]

the pivots are different

[ornate stump]

That's irrelevant.

[exotic slate]

hey do you know any good website to get free avatar other then, jinxxy, gumroad, booth ?

[ornate stump]

No.

[proud cobalt]

I'm not sure how to do the anchor thing?

[timber wharf]

@proud cobalt #avatar-help message

[proud cobalt]

I'm trying to fix the hair being attached to the head but not moving. :(

[livid seal]

Hello, while looking for avatar tutorials, how far back in time can I go before I stop seeing up-to-date information?

[teal laurel]

I am pretty sure most stuff still applies. Especially everything that is SDK3

Optimization and stuff liie that is still valid till this day

[foggy swift]

It toggles if you can see other users in your personal mirror not the face one

[velvet folio]

Uhm, what happened here and how can I fix this?

[sterile radish]

Does anyone know a good tutorial for making a pet/follower? I've got a plushie that has a walk animation and everything but I'm struggling to find a tutorial for setting up a follower.

[still shuttle]

Use the among us follower system :D! It comes with a tutorial on how to customize it

[sterile radish]

Ah alright! Tysm

The one by hfcred?

[still shuttle]

you can also make it quest compatible if you just convert all the constraints it has to vrchat constraints

yeah!

[sterile radish]

Tysmmm

I will give it a go

[torn bramble]

Is anyone available to help me out??

[languid wyvern]

What do you need help with?

[torn bramble]

I am trying to resize ears in Blender, I get them resized and then when I try to put it back in Unity it just messes up literally everything. Like it won't be resized or it won't be resized AND the body is like toothpicks

[somber sequoia]

export with the same settings as previously used. Usually this means setting "Apply scalings" to "FBX All" in the export dialog

unless you know for sure it should be something else

[prisma monolith]

can anyone verify this

[somber sequoia]

not without actually examining the model. It looks like it has an IK rig, which you won't need, but that's easy enough to clean up if you want to

[prisma monolith]

alright basically that big panel with controls uses a bunch of stuff i don't know about to well.. for lack of a more specific term, animate the model

for example theres a slider for weapons, transformation

and idk how to implement any of that onto a vrchat avatar

so what i've been doing instead is rigging from scratch and adding shapekeys for such toggles (weapons and transformation)

[somber sequoia]

yeah none of that is going to work in Unity or VRChat, you'd have to do that stuff in the way VRChat needs.

[proven quail]

making them shapekeys (blendshapes) should work, no?

[prisma monolith]

you're talking about the original stuff i described right, not the shapekeys and re-rig

[somber sequoia]

right

[drowsy crane]

how do I turn some of these emotions into toggles? idk what hand gestures I need to do for disgust, but I wanna use it now that I know its there

[torn bramble]

Can you tell me what to select

[somber sequoia]

I did though

[torn bramble]

Right, sorry. I didn't know if there was more I should change

[somber sequoia]

the rest you can do whatever you need with

probably uncheck the option about leaf bones under "armature" too, unless you know you need those

[torn bramble]

The ears are still massive, I just don't understand what to even do anymore

[unborn thistle]

can someone tell me what to do about the spine hierarchy?

[somber sequoia]

I of course have no idea what things you did, so not sure what to suggest

[somber sequoia]

find the model file, click it, in the inspector in the "rig" tab, see if there are any errors. Then click "configure" and see what's in the chest slot

[teal laurel]

@somber sequoia @unborn thistle locate the fbx, and in the inspector and rig click configure.
Make sure chest is assigned, and i suggest disconnecting the toes and the jaw.

this sometimes likes to happen

had it on the nardo myself

[somber sequoia]

Yeah, definitely disconnect the jaw. Not sure why you would do so for the toes though.

[teal laurel]

I had issues with my toes being stiff as they have physbones on them

[somber sequoia]

ah, never had a problem myself.

[teal laurel]

i like paws so i ran into that issue ;3