avatar-help

[pine valley]

yeah, you can reach in and mess with the array

Anyway, my working hypothesis:

• The original model prefab is fine (by definition; that'd be a Unity bug if it wasn't)
• The first prefab variant is also fine
• The second prefab variant has something wrong with its SkinnedMeshRenderer

[ornate stump]

Possibly just put every prefab into the scene and test to see which of them starts breaking.

[tardy locust]

Ehh, I had a similar problem before. It's a new project because I had to do a major version update, hence I'm starting over again. That's why I'm almost positive it's a disconnect with the armature

[opaque widget]

I just got my new avi and have it uploaded, but it will appear purple on quest.The creator said to add the texture folder it has, how do I do that ?

[teal laurel]

i suggest to duplicate the materials, and use something like toon standard for your material. Then replace the material on your qurst avatar, and see if itlooks correct

@opaque widget

[pine valley]

It's turning purple for Quest users because you can't use custom shaders on a Quest avatar

You have to use one of the built-in shaders

"add the texture folder it has" doesn't make much sense

Black Wolf's idea is correct: you need to use a built-in shader for Quest

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/android/quest-content-limitations

This page lists the shaders you can use

[sick mesa]

Hey y'all I can't launch my unity editor everytime I start a project on creator companion. I can only view it via thumbnail and can never full launch it. Does anybody know how to fix it?

[opaque widget]

It seems to be both, as it has windows icon and android

[pine valley]

Yes, you upload several avatars with the same ID

the Quest avatar must use Quest-compatible shaders

[zenith spade]

Do you retopologize the teeth, tongue, mouth bag?

[ornate stump]

It's the same answer as everything else whether something needs retopologize or not.

[south agate]

i have like 45gb of avatar projects on my system that i want to reduce

is it feasable for me to just hit the "create backup" button and then delete any projects that i'm not actively working on?

[ornate stump]

Yes. Or just simple delete Library folder in project folder and keep your project there.

[south agate]

gotcha, thank you very much

to clarify i'm also fine to delete the rest of the files provided i have a backup?

because it's still quite heavy

[ornate stump]

Sure you can delete everything after backup. Just double check if you actually have the backup file before doing so.

[south agate]

yep yep

thank you

[cobalt cloak]

how do i set the origin so that I can rotate the 3D object around the x-axis in a circular motion, and so that

[ornate stump]

It's rotating correctly already though?

[cobalt cloak]

ye but not for my modl it was just a example

[ornate stump]

Do you actually mean constraining rotation tool to rotate on local X axis?

Setting origin is a different problem from what you're showing.

[cobalt cloak]

okay

[cobalt cloak]

then how do i make that with my model

[ornate stump]

Activate rotation tool with R then hit X(or other axis key) then rotate. You may need to change transformation orientation from Global to Local at the top bar.

[cobalt cloak]

Okay, great. So can I rotate it that way in Unity too for animations?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[cobalt cloak]

were is the potion for local i cant faind it is it under object transform

[ornate stump]

The default would be written Global transfomation in both unity and blender.

[cobalt cloak]

sry i dont get it

[ornate stump]

Do you see Global or Local written anywhere?

[cobalt cloak]

nop

[ornate stump]

Take screenshot then.

[ornate stump]

Right there at the top-center of your screen.

[cobalt cloak]

omg sry

but its still rotating like an egg

[ornate stump]

Then you have to rotate to orient the object to global x axis first, apply transform rotation, and rotate back, then you can rotate with constrainted to local x axis.

[cobalt cloak]

i dont get it to work im sorry

[ornate stump]

How did you do it and what is the result now?

[cobalt cloak]

so i rotatit the objekt in the why it fits the globel then switcht to local and its still not working maby im to stubide

[ornate stump]

Did you do "Apply Transform Rotation"?

[cobalt cloak]

yes

[ornate stump]

What is it doing right now?

[cobalt cloak]

the saim thing

[ornate stump]

Screenshot it too.

[ornate stump]

Or preferably record how you did the steps.

[cobalt cloak]

okay wait

[ornate stump]

You're orienting with Y axis though.

[cobalt cloak]

okay but Y is not working too
does it make a difference whether I choose x or y?

[ornate stump]

It depends on what axis you're going to constraint with. Did you actually make axis constraint when rotating?

[cobalt cloak]

what is constarin

[ornate stump]

That's what I said to hit X(or other axis key) while rotating.

[cobalt cloak]

oh wen i but it in place to match the y axis yes i did

[ornate stump]

Screenshot when you constraint rotate.

[ornate stump]

That's a wrong axis

[cobalt cloak]

but if i want to rotate it back in place i need the z or im rong

[ornate stump]

That wasn't I asked for. You have to reverse the rotation back first, Then try rotating in local axis which was I asked for.

[cobalt cloak]

like that

[ornate stump]

You just have to align it better before apply transform.

[cobalt cloak]

the mesh is not round that why it looks like an egg

[cobalt cloak]

but how do get it back in place

[ornate stump]

You have to remember rotation value how much you rotated, then inverse the value when you want it back.

[cobalt cloak]

but the rotation is on local and if i rotate it back i cant rotate it like in the video bc in not on the line eny more

[ornate stump]

Change back to global first.

[cobalt cloak]

oh

thx

[stable isle]

any way to fix particles not appearing in mirrors? there's a particle system on an avatar i want to show in mirrors, but it's not.

[somber sequoia]

The shader you're using for the particle system's renderer has to have backface culling disabled.

[stable isle]

gotcha

[tight quail]

I'm trying to toggle an object using an animation controller and I can't get the thing to work. I have a working animation to toggle the object off that I confirmed through a vrcfury toggle that ran the animation. I cant get the animation controller to work to toggle the object. I confirmed that the animation controller is doing nothing by having both states set to run the animation
Long story short I need to use this animation controller to run this toggle. I am not what what all I actually need to get this animation controller to work with this object.
I put a full controller onto the object's prefab. It had the FX layer in it, it has a parameter list that I made in that full controller with the param to toggle in it. I even added that parameter to the global params under that full controller. Is there anything obvious missing that would cause issues?

(also yes, same project as the last few days if you remember... haha)

[timber wharf]

you cant have functional controllers on anything other that your avi (playable layers)

other animators are uncontrollable and care not for your variables

[tight quail]

I had this working on a t-shirt prefab tho. I'm just trying to move it onto a different asset?

[timber wharf]

then its controlled by your avi in some way

[tight quail]

I'm not very knowledgable on animation controllers or playable layers yet so idk exactly what that all means. sorry

Its been a lot of leaning as I go

[timber wharf]

idk bout fury as well, i understand that it supposed to somehow append those to your main but no idea how youre supposed to set it up

[balmy barn]

learning id never recommend vrcfury (hit my qouta of the day saying it)

[tight quail]

The only thing vrcfury will be doing in the end of all this is toggling a single variable from the radial.

[tight quail]

This asset came w/ the avi tho, but the prefab came w/ vrcfury toggles. Is there any way to get it so animation controllers can work with it?

[timber wharf]

sure. this whole fury thing exists for makers (through more complex setup for em) to not have to deal with customers unable to create a toggle

just edit your existing fx layer

[tight quail]

I added a new layer in the existing FX for the base and set both states to run the animation yet nothing still happened. Do I need to somehow link this controller to that object? The object has its own prefab.

[timber wharf]

weight is 1?

if you do have vrcf thing still itd probly override

so try getting rid of that controller

[tight quail]

Its the main controller for the avi tho. Wdym get rid of it?

[tight quail]

And no, the toggle I have only toggles the parameter I have in it and one blendshape. Nothing else

[timber wharf]

no i mean its own prefab, does it uuuh stil tries to do smth with controller? really dont know how vrcf work

i assume you do have gesturemanager or vrcemu

[tight quail]

Gesturemanager

[timber wharf]

and again, weight is 1?

for the layer

[tight quail]

Idk where to find weight. Didnt know that was a thing until you mentioned it

[tight quail]

The toggle I have should not have anything to do with animation controller. I dont even have the variable its toggling in the animation controller.

[timber wharf]

@tight quail cog near layer name

whenever you make a new one its on 0 so useless

[tight quail]

Ah its defaulted to 0 i see, 1 sec

Yea its still not running the animation. I set weight to 1. Heres the controller. It should be running this animation costantly, no?

[timber wharf]

uh, yes but why off

if on is controlled by vrcf then it again probly would end up on top of your off

[tight quail]

Its default on

[timber wharf]

overriding it

[tight quail]

vrcf isnt touching the object itself anymore. Only a parameter that will later be used in the controller.

[timber wharf]

can you select your avi, select animation from animation panel dropdown and show keyframes

if its not there just drag it on top of avi in hierarchy

[tight quail]

Im sorry but select what?

Wait the controller listed in there is different from the one I've been editing? Should I be working in the controller listed?

[timber wharf]

no

you should be working on whatever is in fx slot

this on your img is discarded

[tight quail]

So I should be working in Alphazear 2?

Oh

[timber wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730948173379535022/1394873411502735440/image.png?ex=69c698d8&is=69c54758&hm=a6a05a8c4275cb5b9ba56b31d8b53f809432df4514c37750f275cf39a1155893& and im talking this thing

[tight quail]

oo

Thats all this animation is haha

(would it be better to just scale it to 0? im not sure whats optimal)

[timber wharf]

was checking if the paths were right

[tight quail]

Ah I c

[timber wharf]

no scaling is dogshit btw it runs every vertex still. so only usable when youre mad optimizing for stats (and not real performance)

ooooof idk what to propose. try renaming hoodie object, then in animation it should turn yellow, press f2 and fix that as well

maaaay help with other stuff still trying to meddle with it

or just add a goddamn cube to your avi and animation and see if it does disable properly along while hoodie stays on

[tight quail]

Ah I see. Will keep it at Is Active

Heres the full path btw

I changed it from toggling the prefab to the model itself too w/ no luck

[timber wharf]

looks right, should toggle the wholecobject

[tight quail]

Oh the animation itself works. Trying with the cube, 1 sec

[long grotto]

question ;
if i uploaded an avatar, publicly, which previously had nsfw toggles - but i removed the abilities to both see, use, and have them -- will i get banned for that?

i think i asked this in the wrong place, whoops
forget this

[timber wharf]

@long grotto if you never got reported, youre safe. worst case youre looking at 1-3 days🤷‍♂️

[long grotto]

i just dont want to get banned for something that isnt nsfw anymore.

[timber wharf]

well again, depends on how many people saw it

and were bothered

[long grotto]

suppose so.. that sucks
thanks for the help dude!

[tight quail]

Okay so I changed out the animation in the FX for the cube toggle animation and it was able to successfully remove the cube? Testing a couple things rn to see whats going on

Yea its able to toggle the cube, but I put the shirt animation back in and nothing

The shirt is in its own prefab. Should this be unpacked?

[timber wharf]

well then it is smth below yours fx layer that keeps shirt on. and based on youre renaming and it doesnt care i assume its vrcf whatever that dont care for names

ie generates it on the fly

[tight quail]

The only things I could find vrcf that were touching the shirt was the toggle that I removed.

[tight quail]

Unpacked one of the other prefabs that im not using for shits and giggles, everything on that one, and it did nothing. Any suggestions on how to find what might be messing with it?

[timber wharf]

honeslty no idea. i dont think gesturemanager allows to see resulting fx animator in playmode does it

[tight quail]

It does. I had this working on a different asset on a different base before

End goal is to get a collider to toggle the object.

Actually... I''ll continue this another time. Thanks for the help tho!

[pine valley]

Plug the FX controller into your Animator and make sure the animations are valid (and work when previewed)

[tight quail]

The controller im working in

Controller in the menu

[pine valley]

That is not the same controller.

[tight quail]

Yet I did that test with the cube like he suggested and it worked to toggle the cube in the first controller I mentioned.

[timber wharf]

@pine valley #avatar-help message

[pine valley]

so you plugged "Alphazear_FX" into your Animator, then recorded an animation that turns off the cube, correct?

(and "Alphazear_FX" is plugged into the FX playable layer in your avatar descriptor?)

[tight quail]

No, I did not change the controller in that slot.

And it worked to turn the cube off

[pine valley]

"Alphazear 2" has nothing to do with "Alphazear_FX". It's possible that both controllers use the same animation clips, of course

[tight quail]

2 is practically empty. One sec. I can send a picture. Stepped away from my pc for a minute.

[pine valley]

get rid of it

use your actual FX controller

[tight quail]

OK. It’s weird then this is how the base came.

[pine valley]

The actual controller plugged into the animator has no effect on the built avatar

however, if you're intending to record animations for the FX layer, it would make sense to have that controller active

[tight quail]

Alright. Any reason it would work to toggle the cube and not the shirt then?

[pine valley]

I have no idea what your FX controller is doing right now!

so it's very hard to tell you anything

[timber wharf]

@pine valley no it doesnt matter. i just drag every animation of whatever on my root thus stockpiling em

[pine valley]

it makes sure that you're editing the clips that your FX layer actually uses

i want to eliminate as many variables as possible here

[timber wharf]

#avatar-help message🤷‍♂️

[pine valley]

that's probably "Alphazear 2", which wasn't actually being used at all on the built avatar

[timber wharf]

yet it toggles the cube

[pine valley]

without the gesture manager running, at least

since it was plugged into the animator

once GM turns on, the existing controller is thrown out

[timber wharf]

but it does

[pine valley]

i'm guessing that the animator then decides the default state of the cube was "off"

[tight quail]

I removed the animation from the controller and the cube stayed

[pine valley]

what controller? "Alphazear 2"?

[tight quail]

Just got back to pc, going to plug the Alphazear_Fx into the animation slot

[tight quail]

No, "Alphazear_Fx"

[pine valley]

Okay, that makes sense, then.

[tight quail]

Wait a minute. Need to try something. Now the animations in the dropdown menu changed. Let me remake the animations and plug them into the controller again

[pine valley]

the Animation window shows you all animation clips on your current controller

so it's now showing you everything in the "Alphazear_FX" controller

[tight quail]

Yes

And the shirt is now gone!! Will changing that FX layer break stuff tho?

[pine valley]

do you mean removing the "Alphazear_FX" controller from your Animator?

that should be fine; the controller in there should not matter at all

there is an edge case in the editor where you enter play mode before the Gesture Manager can do its thing

[tight quail]

I put “Alphazear_FX” into the animator

[pine valley]

the animator will wind up running whatever controller it was assigned

[tight quail]

Ooohhh I see

[pine valley]

once GM turns on, it'll get updated to use the combined controller

[timber wharf]

oh i see the flaw here

it want a toggle to begin with

[pine valley]

This should only matter in some kind of wacky default-value situation

[tight quail]

Yea I’m seeing what was happening now.

[pine valley]

(but I have gotten into such wacky default-value situations!)

[timber wharf]

it was just running useless animator and gm was never invoked ie selected

[pine valley]

oh, was the gesture manager never even running at all?

[tight quail]

But yea, now it works! Tyyyy. That was the last missing piece for this

[pine valley]

you must use the Gesture Manager to preview your avatar

[tight quail]

I was running it to test, yes

[timber wharf]

@pine valley doesnt it need to be selected unlike aviemu to start?

[pine valley]

It needs to be selected at some point, yes

I often enter play mode, then click on the object in the hierarchy

You'll see your avatar snap into an idle pose

until the GM initializes, the behavior you see will have very little to do with how your avatar will actually work!

[timber wharf]

ye so with it not being a toggle that wasnt ever required, cause no toggles

[pine valley]

without the GM, your animator will just play whatever controller it's given

so if that controller did not play the "Shirt off" aniamtion, then the shirt would stay on

[timber wharf]

love me aviemu

[tight quail]

Well tysm for the help guys!!!! That should be the lsat piece of the puzzle to get this all working!!

[pine valley]

I need to try out av3emu

previewing network behavior would be great

i've made some major oopsie-woopsies there

[mental fulcrum]

First time uploading an avatar so im a little out of my depth.. what does this mean and how do i fix it?

[pine valley]

There should be another error in the console

You'll get a few that basically just say "it broke ):"

[mental fulcrum]

Which one might it be?

[ornate stump]

The one that's saying missing script. Missing script mean you haven't imported all the required package. This one is you have to import VRCFury package.

[mental fulcrum]

Ahhh

[lime gorge]

am i supposed to extract this substance paint file?

my textures arent applying properly and i need help step by step

[mental fulcrum]

All fixed, ty!!

[small dawn]

I still need help with this, like, how do i actually put the HUD Menu into the root/Items/Funny Stuff Menu? I cant figure it out

[mental fulcrum]

Is there a way to move the arms resting position on desktop? I dont like my arms clipping through my waist lol

[tight quail]

Um... so im back already haha. I have a variable from my collider that is instantly flipping itself back to false when I flip it to true using GestureManager?

It flickers to true for a frame then goes back

[lime gorge]

im not waiting, im using copilot to help me instead..

[lilac musk]

GogoLoco has a thing for this. Just add it and it give you 3 options for how wide your arms will rest

[lilac musk]

The contact parameter is going to override anything you do to it. Probably be better if you have a second parameter

[tight quail]

I found the diffrerence between it workign and not working. I have this collider working in tandem with a toggle I have in my radial, and when I have the toggle flipped, its doing this ****

[lilac musk]

Your trying to set the same parameter as the contact, right?

[mental fulcrum]

Ty! Speaking of gogoloco, is there a key anywhere..? All these icon and a lot of them I dont know what they do

[tight quail]

Yea, its all the same name

[lilac musk]

No idea, just learned from others myself. If you do find one, let me know. It would be good to have

[lilac musk]

Right, so when you set the value with your radial, it will instantly change because the contact is also setting that value.

[tight quail]

Oooohhhh, no thats a different param

The contact is using "Custom_Contact" and the radial toggle is using "Toggle"

[lilac musk]

So when you touch the contact, it turns true, then right back to false?

[tight quail]

Instantly, yes

I can see it running the animation I have linked to it for that frame too

W a i t, the animation had a loop time. 1 sec...

[lilac musk]

The animation shouldn't matter unless you have a parameter driver on the state

[tight quail]

O yea. Still flipped that off

But yea, its an instant flip back and idk whats causing it exactly

[lilac musk]

Is the animation turning off the contact?

[tight quail]

It shouldnt be. Its just running an animation to turn an object off

[lilac musk]

An object the contact is on?

[tight quail]

The object is defaulted off. It can be toggled on, and if the collider is activated, it turns off

[tight quail]

The contact is in an empty object

[lilac musk]

I'm not getting a direct answer here. Is the contact on the object, or any of the children of that object, that gets turned off?

[tight quail]

Holy shit... the animation deactivates the whole prefab... and the collider is within the prefab...

Tyyyy

I thought I had the animation just turning the object off, not the wohle prefab

[lilac musk]

Yea if it gets turned off, the parameter would also turn to false lol

[tight quail]

Yeeeaaaaaa that makes sense

[lilac musk]

Also for debug reasons on contactors/physbones. You can turn on an overlay in your radial menu. This will make it so you can see them and get more info on what they are doing

[tight quail]

Im just using gesture manager for this for now. Ty tho

[lilac musk]

No problem

[violet maple]

Hi, I have a problem. I imported a garment on my avatar and it is correctly placed and there shouldn't be any problem, but when I look up at the sky, I see the garment. It's as if it's standing right in front of my eyes, but it's not moving when I move my head that I look with my camera , and I don't know what's causing it or how it's fixed.

[fervent spear]

hi guys asking again, anyone have any idea why my constraints are doing this to my avatar? i recently added rotation constraints to the legs, hip, spines, chest and neck bones, but only the leg ones work properly, the rest make my avatar look really weird in play mode?

also theres this massive "armature" bone, but i dont think it would be the cause of this

[late wharf]

Anyone know what this means or how to allow thing I’ve never had this happen

[lilac musk]

You have some kind of addon that is preventing you from uploading. Either follow it's instructions (Probably just add a component it's specifying to the avatar), or remove it. Honestly VERY weird someone would make such a thing.

[late wharf]

How do I know what add on is breaking it

How do I add allow pc lol what is this

Like I finally optimized it for quest after days now this lol

[lilac musk]

You would have to either dig into your asset files and find it, or ask the creator.

I wouldn't really know how to "Allow PC uploads" as it suggests as I've never used it. But again, asking the creator might be your best bet

[late wharf]

Thanks man

[lilac musk]

Just thought of something, what steps did you do to optimize your avatar? Cause if any of those was an addon, it might be the thing that's causing this

[late wharf]

Well I fixed the issue but now I have a new one used D4rk avatar optimizer and now it up,pass but the avatar turns completely invisible

[radiant socket]

Hii how does one fix this idk how to use unity

[minor trail]

Remaking my chibi and idk what I did wrong this time. I did it the exact same way

Second pic is how it's supposed to be

Gave up with that hair for now

[lilac musk]

You'll probably want to describe what it is thats wrong. Also the hair is just not set to transparent

[low oxide]

i need help with this error i got it since purchase her on booth and i send a messages to owner but got ghost but her/him

[minor trail]

I set it to transparent and it still didn't work. Also I just gave up

[lilac musk]

Not sure what that tool is your using, but it's saying that one of your parameters is set to two different types between multiple controllers

[low oxide]

I don't know which one and it default settings from owner

i run it with no edit

just default avatar

[lilac musk]

Is it stopping you from uploading? Cause parameters do get cast and so it might function fine

[low oxide]

yes

[lilac musk]

Odd. I'd probably contact the creator of the avatar and see if they know what's going on.

Though if you really want to try to fix it yourself, is to just use deduction to figure out what parameter it is. I'd remove the animation controllers 1 at a time till that error goes away. Then you'll know which controller it is. Duplicate it and replace it. The error should be back, so now 1 by 1 start removing each parameter in it till the error goes away again. You'll have the culprit at that point. You can then figure out which type it should be or if it's one in another controller and set it correctly.

[low oxide]

okay thanks you

[desert sonnet]

Im trying to get my models lip synk to work in MMD worlds but idk how to can someone dm me and help (i say DM bc im not active here and may miss a reply)

[balmy barn]

https://github.com/ShyWolf42/Copy-to-MMD-Visemes , one way to copy & rename ones you have on avatar to vmd/mmd compitable names

think wink2 right got the wrong character tho - fixed it on mine

ウインク２ <

[desert sonnet]

do i need to do anything in blender if so im cooked

[balmy barn]

yup

its blender

[desert sonnet]

Do u know blender?

maybe u can try to talk me through it?

idk how to port the model to blendere

or back without completly breaking it

[balmy barn]

import avatar / plugin , do that , export over fbx in unity ( do not do this if its unpacked )

[desert sonnet]

what

can you help

[dark jay]

I have a question lets say a model has a toggle for a hand puppet how would i get that model to speak with the hand puppet and what i mean is when toggled off its the regular model speaking but with the puppet in hand turned on its the puppet talking

[ornate stump]

You have to use TrackingControl state behaviour to switch between avatar control lipsync and animation control.

[glass condor]

Quick question for the late at night avatar makers: Is VRM 1.0 supported by Vrchat? I'm noticing that there's no dedicated program to convert them to fbxs for Vrchat. What do I do?

[balmy barn]

use blender instead , you wont get a terrible unoptimized mess

vrm > blender > unity > vrchat

0 and 1 supported

whenever i see the tutorials that use vrm converter in unity it will be very poor instantly, no reason why

#avatar-general message

you can get good/medium on a vrm pretty easy

[glass condor]

I know...but I still gotta ask, is there even a converter??? Or is it only blender? Let's just say I'm not worried about optimization.

[balmy barn]

doubt its for v1

guess there is

[glass condor]

Is that univrm? Cuz when I check it out, there only seems to be an option to export the vrm 1.0, not convert it for VRC.

[balmy barn]

much better ways to export a fbx to vrm then that tool exsist , been a very long time since ive tested univrm

[glass condor]

Fair I guess

[desert sonnet]

i assume ill never get my MMD done im lost

[ornate stump]

You could ask specific question if you stucked somewhere.

[desert sonnet]

i just dont know MMD stuff

or better

the blendere side of it

[ornate stump]

First of, the model needs MMD compatible blendshapes(or shapekeys in blender). You have to check whether if your model has those blendshape or not. You can look MMD shapekey list on the internet.

[hazy pike]

actively going insane trying to figure out why this happens when I import this model into unity,,, and this is what happens when I turn outline on 😭 (using liltoon)

I've checked my normals and they're correct, Im not sure what I did wrong here

[ornate stump]

Make sure that the hair object scale is positive in blender.

[hazy pike]

Ah, I’ll have to look at it tomorrow. I just shut my computer off bc I’m too tired :,3 thank you! Hopefully that’s why

[somber osprey]

this model has 2 materials but when I drag the texture png on it, it applied to both

how can I change the 2nd material?

[ornate stump]

It actually has 1 material. You counted 2 because it's material slots.

[somber osprey]

So what do I do to get 2 materials slot?

cause I wanna change te texture of the display

Blender shows as 2 material slots

here unity sees 2 material shaders but I can't edit them

[ornate stump]

Because you're using same material in both slot in unity. Just create a new material asset and assign in one of the slot.

[somber osprey]

idk if I'm stupid or I'm not seeing material asset

[ornate stump]

That's adding component, Not asset.

[somber osprey]

oh. then how do you do it then?

[ornate stump]

You should see the Assets menu in the top bar menu.

[somber osprey]

fixed it. thank you

[somber osprey]

I know I'm doing something wrong here but Idk how to do it exactly

is there a way to have 2 radial puppet control the animation motion time on the single object?

basically the object I have as 2 radial puppet with 2 animations, both meant for adjusting height and distance, but I can only get one working but not both. how can I do that?

[austere forum]

Hi there, have a strange problem need a hand. Changed avatar a little bit (added new sittitng/lying positions, and some items with toggle), buw smh broke lipsync and now it's looking by default like this. In gesture manager it still looks ok and idk what the problem is (really don't want to do all the changes from the vanila model)
When mouth is closed it looks like 1st screenshot, when opened it's ok

[balmy barn]

they need their own layer or a blendtree wich would be better

only the default state on these will work, cant go to other

see exsample i had, they are all in one layer each

[somber osprey]

I did it like that. Only one radial puppet works but the the other one doesn't work anymore

[balmy barn]

just be sure they are moving a different gameobject not the same - it wont like that , and these are not 'i did it like that' , completly different images

again , you motion time these gameobjects to move

[mental fulcrum]

How might one go about customising an avatar? Changing the hair etc from whats already built in

[balmy barn]

blender way

unity way

might want to remove the old first unless its own mesh then its pretty easy delete (if it actually have its bones in it)

[lone brook]

if my assets are hidden like these, do they count towards the avatar size?

[balmy barn]

yep

[lone brook]

oh so i should just delete them then

[balmy barn]

duplicate and delete on that one incase you want to go back sure

[little plume]

my model isnt rotated in the animation, but when previewing my animations in a timeline director, its rotated.

rotating the object itself does not fix this, because it goes pack the the rotation that its forcing itself into

[real timber]

Hi i am trying to work on a HUD using the old error shader. Does anyone still remember how

Or know of a better one for making a ODST One

How do i do that?

And i want to add various texture to it

Sure!

[lilac musk]

@real timber Careful, that account is very suspicious.

[little plume]

anyone have any ideas?

looking at my animation clip she is in the right position

previewing on a playable director has her rotated

[winter kite]

Does anyone know of any good tutorials/guides/documentation on how one should properly set up VRC Parameter drivers, especially syncing randomized parameters?

I was working with a friend just last night for over 3 hours trying to get a single randomizing synced parameter to work for remote users

[balmy barn]

run random locally, go to another state, set a parameter ( int in this case 1 2 3 4 )

my afk didnt have local first so it gave random roll to everyone

[winter kite]

Like this is what I'm talking about! Thank you! Why does one need to do Is Local the first time, but then not the second. There's a lot to this in particular that's really hard to understand the logic of that I can't seem to find a lot of info on

[umbral cargo]

How do you get those colors arrows in unity

[balmy barn]

🔨 old https://blog.febucci.com/2020/10/custom-hierarchy-for-unity/

[balmy barn]

if you run a random parameter not local, everyone near you get a random number, not the one you rolled

where the part setting it after for everyone come in

[winter kite]

That's the part that was throwing me off. Setting a random param, even when Is Local was checked, and synced in the expressions, was still producing random results for remote users at times. There were additional steps like you mentioned now that were required that I wasn't aware of before. Thanks for helping!

[austere forum]

Any help? 😄

[somber sequoia]

can't tell what's going on there, sorry. if it doesn't happen while testing in play mode then that's quite weird, normally I'd say to check if any animation is activating one of the visemes when it shouldn't be.

[charred epoch]

Is it possible to get an avatar contact reciever to go off to being in ontact with the world, like its walls?

Or anything similar as I just need it to send out a arameter when it does

[hallow coyote]

for later reference, how do i do glitter on a texture like in this image?

[balmy barn]

looks like poi glitter

other ways to do the same effect exsist

[somber sequoia]

Only if the world has a sender

[lilac musk]

Yes? VRChat added avatar dynamics to world recently, so you should be able to do that kind of stuff now. However that would mean the world would have to be setup for it, and I don't know if there are flat contacts yet, so it would function terrible

[dapper peak]

My physbones are not visible even when I have them in my hierarchy. Gizmos are set to be shown so I don't know what is going on

[hallow coyote]

thanks^^

[somber osprey]

what do you mean by game object I'm confused?

you mean this?

[lilac musk]

Each thing in the hierarchy is called a game object

[sullen fern]

how genuenilly do ppl get so many toggles and physbones on quest, i try too and its too big, i do blendshape optimizer,optimize the texures,direct tree optimizer, and more and it still is too big

[lilac musk]

Well blend trees have nothing to do with that kind of optimization. They are probably reducing poly count pretty dramatically as well. Poly count does impact size quite a bit

[balmy barn]

check mesh size, they can be 90% of your avatar size if you have a massive one

for a quest anyway

[sullen fern]

so what can i do to help it?

[lilac musk]

Well seeing as you're already using a blendshape optimizer, you'd either need to find out if you have other unnecessary vertex data and remove it, or start reducing poly count as I mentioned

[balmy barn]

offline build, check build size, lower whatever is the biggest

( thanks hdr for making a fuzzy image )

[balmy barn]

you need more then 1 object if you want to rotate/leftright/updown, it can only do one axis at a time, why mine has 3 gameobjects ontop of eachother then the actual object under the least

if you dont only the last one in layer will actually be able to move it

[somber osprey]

"different game object not the same"

can you elaborate more? cause this sounds conflicting in my mind

[pine valley]

make a chain of game objects

• Yaw
  • Pitch
    • Roll
      • Holder

each one gets rotated around a single axis

Rotations are remarkably annoying. Breaking them into single axes makes it much simpler

[lilac musk]

I think what Thulen was referring to, is when you're animating one game object with 2 different animations, they will conflict and only one outcome will happen. If you have 2 different objects, then animating one with one animation and a second with a different animation, then the results will combine.

[pine valley]

each thing in the hierarchy is a game object

Laptop is a game object, as is marina_laptop_ARM and bip_skl_root

[somber osprey]

so just make an anim on anything but the .dmx? (as that one is being used for first animation)

[pine valley]

doesn't MarinaLaptop have a SkinnedMeshRenderer on it?

rotating that object will do nothing

a SkinnedMeshRenderer only cares about the pose of the bones it uses

[somber osprey]

I'm moving it. not rotating it

[pine valley]

same thing: if it'a a SkinnedMeshRenderer, then it won't react at all

if it's just a MeshRenderer, then that armature doesn't make sense being there

[somber osprey]

so what should I do then?

I'm still new to this, I just ported this model from another engine

[pine valley]

show me the inspector for MarinaLaptop.dmx

[pine valley]

that's correct!

and yeah, that has a SkinnedMeshRenderer

To most the laptop model around, you need to move the bones in the hierarchy. I'm guessing those are:

• bip_skl_root
• bip_screen

[somber osprey]

Yes

[pine valley]

next up: what are you trying to move here? the entire laptop, or just the screen?

[somber osprey]

Entire laptop

[pine valley]

gotcha

[somber osprey]

I'm trying to move it up and down

forward and back just for adjust

[pine valley]

Position only, not rotation, correct?

[somber osprey]

cause switching pose in goco loco won't make it follow, hence the 2 animation for 2 radial puppet

[somber osprey]

Yes. JUST poistion

[pine valley]

Gotcha

(i was originally confused and thought you were doing rotation!)

You have two options here:

One is to do what Thulen suggested: add some more parent objects and have two layers.

You'd set your hierarchy up like this:

• LeftRight
  • ForwardBack
    • Laptop

Record your animations so that one affects LeftRight and one affects ForwardBack

Play them on two separate animator layers.

The other is to use a blend tree. Here is how it would look:

You'd record four one-frame animations for "down", "up", "back", and "forward"

The root tree plays two trees at the same time!

the other two trees are straightforward: they use a parameter to blend between the two animations

[pine valley]

You can read more about direct blend trees here https://vrc.school/docs/Other/DBT-Combining/

[somber osprey]

can I not just do 2 animations?

1 animation is for both up and down
other animation is for forward and back

[pine valley]

You can't do this if you're going to use a blend tree

Your current animations depend on being able to use the "Motion Time" setting on an animator state

[somber osprey]

so I NEED 4 animations?

[pine valley]

Yes, each of which has only one frame

"Laptop Down" should have one keyframe that moves the laptop down by a meter

[pine valley]

normally, animations play from start to end over time; Motion Time lets you pick exactly where you are in the animation

this is very useful for complex blends; you can do a bunch of animating in one clip and then scroll through it

Although, you know what

Hang on

ah, nvm

[somber osprey]

[pine valley]

i was thinking you could still use Motion Time on the state that controls the blend tree

But that would not be very helpful. It would scroll through both the front-back and up-down animations at the same time.

[somber osprey]

...shall I continue trying to make 4 animations?

[pine valley]

Yes.

You can duplicate your existing animations and just delete one of the two keyframes

that's often how I create these simple animation clips

[somber osprey]

I just need to make sure cause I'm completely noob to unity. what do you mean by this?

[somber osprey]

okay after this. what do I do next?

I can send screenshot if you wanna double-checl

[pine valley]

This would be the way to go if you didn't want to use a blend tree.

You'd have two layers, each of which plays one animation

They'd also need to target different objects

[pine valley]

yeah, show me what you have now

[brisk hazel]

?????? im so confused

[pine valley]

that is not an error

I think Armature Link can delete the object it was on in some situations

[brisk hazel]

its still on the avatar.

its just refusing to link

[pine valley]

this is not the problem, then

something else is wrong

Did you try to link the object with the SkinnedMeshRenderer on it? This would not be correct

I presume this is on a model with an armature

you want to link the armature

[pine valley]

That's almost right, but your direct blend tree should use a "One" parameter for both of its children

(make sure the default value is 1)

[brisk hazel]

You dont say..... the object itself doesnt have an armature....

[pine valley]

i see a SkinnedMeshRenderer listed on that component, though

show me the hierarchy, including the object you're trying to link

[brisk hazel]

I've done it before I dunno what its doing now

[pine valley]

which object has the Armature Link on it?

[brisk hazel]

the gun

[pine valley]

"Gun L"?

[brisk hazel]

yes... cause thats how I've done it in the past with no issues

[pine valley]

show me the inspector for that object

[brisk hazel]

</3

[pine valley]

this is an empty object with nothing else on it

do you have something else that uses a constraint to follow the 'Gun L' object?

[brisk hazel]

not as far as Im aware

[pine valley]

then i'm not sure what you're expecting to happen

this object has nothing attached to it

and nothing uses the object

[brisk hazel]

I mean, the renderer is there when I put it in.

[balmy barn]

thats alot of spines

[pine valley]

"put it in?"

[brisk hazel]

Nvm, I figured out what happened

[brisk hazel]

Its... a game model...

[glass solar]

so im making an avi that uses transparency and whatnot they all use multiply and I'm using renderque. it looks fine in unity but in vrchat its not

[somber osprey]

Fen, how is my setup?

[late wharf]

Anyone know why my avatar is disappearing on uploads and then in unity

[timber wharf]

@glass solar i dont think avatars are allowed to use such extreme renderqueues, stick to 3000ish values

[plain mural]

My avatar is a snake. When the player looks at the tail or generally turns even slightly away from me, my avatar and its long tail disappear. How to fix it? Through a bounding box?

[timber wharf]

yes

physbones are disabled when bounding box is culled

[balmy barn]

keep entire av 1 mesh to avoid wierd culling when viewed from certain angles, always funny to see those avatars in world , poof goes their hair or clothes

[timber wharf]

@glass solar also having 10 overlaying sprites on mobile is a nice way to kill any double-digit fps. if its for mobile

[quasi swallow]

is there somewhere i can go to get help with specific errors i'm experiencing when upload an avatar i found? or would it be this channel?

[little plume]

enabling legacy blend shap normals makes the head super shiny

[rain epoch]

Bro what's that?😂

That's not shiny, it's look like his face was Dip in the Cement

[little plume]

ok now looking up makes it looked fucked up

looking at a normal angle

[rain epoch]

It's look Black Barbie

I'm not trying to be racist or anything..

[obtuse bison]

What could be causing this issue where clicking "upload" results in the panel turning gray and then nothing happening at all?

[little plume]

i have 0 clue why the model is so fucked up

the nagle you look at changes the lighting ALOT

[rain epoch]

This one still better

[little plume]

its the same one

just looking at a different angle

[rain epoch]

Oh my bad

[little plume]

the lighting is being so weird

why tf is it doing this

i cleared custom normals

[rain epoch]

It's Quest 3s?

[lilac musk]

Sus

[little plume]

pcvr

well

desktop

[rain epoch]

I see

[lilac musk]

careful if they DM you

[pine valley]

see #avatar-help message

[rain epoch]

Are you referring to me?

[glass condor]

hey im trying to add this item to my avi, but its transparent on one side. how to fix?

[balmy barn]

disable backside culling , depends on shader you using

[glass condor]

I tried flipping normals and it just causes the same issues on the opposing side.

[glass condor]

How do I do that?

[balmy barn]

wich shader are you using

toon standard for quest have this

[glass condor]

I'm not sure cuz this is in blender, but I plan for this to be toon standard for both.

I did find a Shadow section in the material and enabled Double Sided, and that fixed it...but idk if it's permanent.

Or if it will work in Unity.

[lilac musk]

This is all done on the shader, so it wont matter what your settings are in blender. Once its in Unity, you'll just fix it there

[glass condor]

Ah I see

[lilac musk]

You can do it in blender too if you simply want to see the other side while you work on it

[glass condor]

Aight that fixed it, the Toon Standard setting. Thanks @balmy barn and @lilac musk ! Turns out the tutorial I was using was outdated too

Old quest shaders didn't support fixing the culling ig

[lilac musk]

Yea, the new toon standard was the first to introduce it for quest. Old workaround was to duplicate the mesh and flip the normals making 2x the poly count. Glad that added it

Oh and just FYI, backface culling is actually the standard way of rendering in video games. Just that avatars in VRChat are kind of odd and so having it off becomes more common.

[hot loom]

How to fix?

[flat mauve]

can i use Mixer to make avatars for vrchat? i dont wanna use blender

cuz like i wanna do a avatar with my friend so

[night ember]

why do you not want to use blender

[flat mauve]

@night ember

This

[balmy barn]

gonna be hard to get any help with that .. program i never heard of

[balmy barn]

weight transfer from leg , make it your skirt bone, parent to leg, now its very hard to clip it (blender) , it might have some wierdness on back tho, so another bone there might be handy - no collider needed just angle limits

[night ember]

that did not even answer the question

[flat mauve]

Cuz i want to do a avatar with my FRIEND CAUSE i cant do it alone

and blender is TOO COMPLICATED

you know what they say

strength comes from unity

[balmy barn]

does it spit out a fbx with straight humanoid bones , visemes ? (blender can do that easy)

[night ember]

majority of the time its the person that is overcomplicating blender

you can just not use the majority of blender's features

[flat mauve]

thats what makes it confusing

anyway can i or not

[night ember]

Ive never even heard of mixer

[flat mauve]

i mean i guess its the same thing as blender

wait let me research

[lilac musk]

Then it should work, but then again, why not just use blender at that point?

[flat mauve]

''Mixer: a Blender Addon for Collaborative Editing.''

[flat mauve]

i want to make the avatar with my friend cause working together not only makes it easier it can take faster too

[night ember]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[lilac musk]

If it doesn't remove any function from blender, then yea, you can use it

[flat mauve]

ok im doen

[balmy barn]

you need unity in the end anyway , and that looks ooold

[flat mauve]

done*

[flat mauve]

alr

[flat mauve]

ru talking to me-

[lilac musk]

I think they were

[flat mauve]

ok nvm theyre not

[fair roost]

Anyone good at making avis?

[rain epoch]

Yeah

[rain epoch]

Would you like to see before judging?

[lilac musk]

I'm sure there are a few around. If you need help, just ask questions here and people may chime in

[balmy barn]

doubt it, you keep saying random stuff in channels, not really showing much and that funny bio

[lilac musk]

Yea that Sophize account is very sus

[rain epoch]

That's not very nice coming out from you

[balmy barn]

im not here to be nice

[rain epoch]

Really?

[lilac musk]

Yes.

[rain epoch]

How can you judged be without knowing?

[rain epoch]

I can see tha

[lilac musk]

I know that account is sus, so I'm not?

[balmy barn]

now show us what you can do 🐧 , you were about to show something ? or was that in dm's

[balmy barn]

there is alot of scammers / bots and stuff in this discord, be aware they might come to your dm's , suggest not having them on in this discord

[lilac musk]

So VRCRaycast was just released into the SDK beta, does that mean that would only work in the beta builds?

[hot loom]

Ok you will dm me

[balmy barn]

that would be a first for me in this discord, i dont dm 🐇

[hot loom]

Alright, YouTube/etc tutorial?

[balmy barn]

very handy program, https://github.com/sentfromspacevr/robust-weight-transfer

[left gull]

theres quite a few in here that're "good" at making avatars but you should probably specify what you're actually looking for

vague posting helps nobody :P

[covert ocean]

hey is there anyone here that could upload a vroid avatar for free on here? theres a very simple model i want uploaded but im very impatient and want it soon...

[covert ocean]

(i mean uploaded to vrc)

[vagrant totem]

There is a avatar called Goku black with a side of kiwi fruit I know it’s a stupid name and one of the attacks is called judgment cut, and judgment cut end. How do I both of those

[left gull]

this is deff not the discord to find people for that nor is it safe at all to share your login info with random people you dont know, if you dont have a PC then at worst id ask one of your friends to upload it that you trust

[covert ocean]

oh i mean for someone to make it a public or somthing

[little plume]

ideas on how to fix?

deleting custom normals in blender did not fix it

[surreal sinew]

Please help me

It’s saying object references not set to an instance of object

[hot loom]

It's scam.

[vagrant kayak]

Did wherever you got the avatar specify other necessary packages? For mine I had to download 'lilToon' for shaders.

[surreal sinew]

Nope

[radiant night]

Why do seemingly all avatar bases have the head and body separated?

[somber sequoia]

there was a time when having blendshapes on a mesh with over a certain number of polygons was really expensive to render, so people started splitting the head from the body, as that's where more blendshapes are (visemes, expressions)

[radiant night]

Ohh right, the file size required for blendshapes comes from the amount of vertices, not from how complicated it is

[hot anvil]

anyone know how to fix this?

it wont let me set the rig in unity

[still shuttle]

Rename any mesh that has the same name as a bone

In your case it's the head mesh

[bright raft]

so my avatar's hand colliders are just gone and I can't interact with physbones at all and haven't been able to for like a year. I've been banging my head against this for so long, but I just can't figure out why it happens, if anyone has any ideas to try out I'd supper appreciate it, even if I've already tried it

[hot anvil]

ohhh ok thank you

[spiral jay]

How do I add these lashes to the head it’s Ilumina or whatever head. I’ve literally been trying to add the lashes, enjoying the matches. I’ve been shrink deform and all of that but because it has more than two polygons, the shrink the form won’t work any sub surface deform won’t work on the shrink wrap doesn’t look right and when I try to join him regularly, you don’t work they don’t move with like when I try to join a regularly for some odd reasonthey disappear like what the Frick and then not only that it’s just they won’t I just want I just want lashes on her

[knotty lichen]

is there a tool for viewing avatar fallbacks in the unity editor?

[wanton cedar]

mind showing us what it does look like when you try and join them?

[spiral jay]

Ctrl + j and this is what I get

Like I can see them there because of the outline but like for some reason they are completely invisible

[wanton cedar]

Did you Ctrl + A the lashes before joining them? Maybe the UV map names aren't the same, so the lashes uv maps are being overwritten

[spiral jay]

Terms so I did tho the ctrl + a ting but idk what u mean? Are you saying it’s ignoring the transparency?

Oh my fuck

[wanton cedar]

the uv, which tells the mesh where to go on the texture, will move if you don't have the same map names before joining them together.

[spiral jay]

It isn’t the same name

[wanton cedar]

Thats most likely the issue

[spiral jay]

Maybe that’s why? Blender is kinda funky like that

Are you kidding meeeeee

[wanton cedar]

Just a quick change and it should all be good

[wanton cedar]

It happens to all of us at some point

[spiral jay]

Thank you soooo much lovie

I wanna cry cause I’ve been stuck on it for HOURS

[wanton cedar]

You're welcome :)

[spiral jay]

I was asking chat got and everything

[wanton cedar]

Id say go to gemini if you want to ask ai for help

But go here first before ai

[spiral jay]

Okayyyy thx uuu

So now I just gotta make shape eyes for every thing?

Or like is there an easier way?

Wink wink

[wanton cedar]

Did it not come with shape keys? If it didnt, yes you need to make them yourself

[spiral jay]

Dang

Sighhhhh

[wanton cedar]

It's really not that hard, just takes time

[spiral jay]

You think I could just get away with just the blink and work on the rest later

[wanton cedar]

Yeah

Just dont expect the lashes to follow the eyes if theres other expressions present

[spiral jay]

Okayyyyy

[quartz quiver]

hi guys, i just joined vrchat server looking for help so i can finish my avatar, this is it but i dont know how to make the rig animation works, can anyone help me please?

[lilac musk]

Rig animation? Not sure what you mean by that. Once you set it to humanoid and upload, the rig should behave like 90% of vrc avatars.

[quartz quiver]

like, i mean the rig in unity

wait

let me show you

i dont know how to configure this rig

[lilac musk]

it simply looks like it didn't populate the upper and lower leg. Just give it those bones and it should be good

[quartz quiver]

it's showing an error now

[lilac musk]

The rig has issues. You might have to take it into blender to fix it

[quartz quiver]

i was checking it rn but what i have to do?

it's my very first avatar creation, im sorry if i am saying stupid things

[lilac musk]

No your good, it takes time to learn. You're already doing more than most people by being willing to use blender lol

It was saying your foot bone isn't the child of your leg. So select the rig, go to edit mode, select the foot, make it's parent the leg

[quartz quiver]

alr

YESSS

it worked

[lilac musk]

Nice!

[quartz quiver]

i'll continue the tutorial i was watching, if i get more problems, can i dm u?

[lilac musk]

Best thing to do is simply continue to ask for help here. That way if I'm not available, someone else might be able to help.

[quartz quiver]

okei

sorry for asking also

[lilac musk]

all good

[quartz quiver]

i think it's done

[lilac musk]

Awesome!

[quartz quiver]

time for testing : D

oh my god, i was about to test it on my quest 2, IT RESTARTED MY PC AND MY VR BATTERY JUST DIED LOL

[lilac musk]

oof

[quartz quiver]

im testing it on my pc anyways

what.

[lilac musk]

Something wrong?

[quartz quiver]

the eyes are moving with the skin

like

it's ´´falling``

i personally think that's VERY good for my first creation

im proud of myself :, )

[lilac musk]

You did good for sure, most people never make something from scratch

[quartz quiver]

do you have the requirements for publishing avatars?

[quartz quiver]

thanks yippe

: D

[lilac musk]

requirements?

[quartz quiver]

yeah, for some reason i can't publish it

it says i don't have the requirements

something like that

i don't remember exactly

[lilac musk]

You have to have a VRChat account with a rank of 'New User' or above

[quartz quiver]

ohh

i don't have it lol

do u have? i wanted to use it tomorrow, i have english class in vrchat (im from Brazil)

[lilac musk]

It's not very hard to get, just play for a bit, hang out, and make some friends

[quartz quiver]

okei

i'll try

10-20 hours..?

im cooked

i made this account only for creating the skin

i have 0 hours

only minutes

[lilac musk]

You made the avatar before you played vrc?

[quartz quiver]

yes, but i didn't know about this

i play vrchat since last year

[lilac musk]

so you have another account?

[quartz quiver]

yes

[lilac musk]

Then why not upload it to that one?

[quartz quiver]

it's only on my quest 2

idk how to enter on it

[lilac musk]

You can link your accounts. That way you have your hours/friends/favorites but it will be a VRChat account for you to upload your avatar

[quartz quiver]

how to?

[lilac musk]

You should have a way to do so in game. So get on your quest profile and go to settings and find a button that says "link account"

[analog pivot]

anybody know how to fix "Avatar validation failed" error?

[arctic ginkgo]

do you have any errors above that?

[analog pivot]

ya it says "Shader warning in 'Hidden/Locked/.poiyomi/Poiyomi Toon/b0205966c121d4b46adc17c55f22f5ab': floating point division by zero at line" for every material that uses poiyomi toon

[arctic ginkgo]

anything with the 🛑 symbol?

⚠️ means something might break, but the avatar will upload correctly. 🛑 means something is broken enough to cause issues with unity or for your avatar to be unable to be built or uploaded.

[analog pivot]

just "Encountered the following validation issues during build:" and "VRCExpressionsMenu uses a parameter that is not defined."

okay so i did this before and it didnt work but after messing around with some stuff and deleting the parameter that is not defined, fixed it but the parameter was for vrc expressions menu which seemed important to not delete so idk

[quartz quiver]

can someone publish my avatar for me please? i don't have new user trust rank for it

please dm

[teal laurel]

You can easily get it by spending a few hours in vrchat and making some friends

[quartz quiver]

alr

[left gull]

buying or getting gifted vrchat+ also gives you a one-time boost

[rare jacinth]

Is anyone having issues with avatar fallback not having clothes even though it does on its preview?

[ornate stump]

Do you rather mean imposter avatar? Fallback avatar would mean a different thing.

[rare jacinth]

I think 🤔 its when people dont have my avatar unhidden apparently I dont have clothing. I have the clothing as default on using vrcfury but for some reason it still shows up that way for questies (im pc)

[ornate stump]

You should also test with animator component disabled. That will be your avatar default state.

[rare jacinth]

Im not too sure how to test in default state

[ornate stump]

Just disable the Animator component in your avatar and test with gesture manager.

[rare jacinth]

Alright ill try that and see if I get some results. I might have to manually set up the toggles but I really dont wanna T.T

[misty musk]

im stupid how do i weight paint this skirt so then it doesnt show everything when i sit 😭 (ping or else i wont see)

[lilac musk]

I really want to make them too, but I hate dealing with either this, or clipping. There's a reason you don't see them on characters often

[mental fulcrum]

Ive gotten a handful of avatars now, but im not quite sure how to customise them beyond built in options.. what guides are the best?

[lilac musk]

Simple toggles and adding other prefabs can get you learning the basics of animation. Shaders can go pretty deep, though obv thats for PC only

[leaden token]

No one trying to figure out why security check is failing for android? But unity says theres no issue?

[lilac musk]

What?

[leaden token]

I don't understand why. On PC my avatar is perfectly working, but for some reason when I switch to android it says it uploaded for android

But when I check the website, it says "Security check failed"

[lilac musk]

Usually for me it's a false positive and reuploading fixes it

[leaden token]

Done that, still it wont work for quest

just an error bot

On the game, it says the avi is compatible for quest

[lilac musk]

Then the avatar probably has something that's causing it. If it's not straight up telling you, you'll have to use some deduction to figure out what specifically is causing it. Try just uploading without any extras. Just the barebones meshs/materials. Then slowly start adding things back one at a time until it gets flagged again. That should give you an idea of whats causing it

[sleek pebble]

how can i make all this stuff fit?

im guessing i gotta take it to blender, but how do i do that? taking the fbx and applying the armature and then bringing those fbx's back in and applying the textures from the original?

[somber sequoia]

The FBX ought to have the armature already in the file

it wouldn't really work right otherwise

[sleek pebble]

but i need to assign the armature through blender right?

because im kitbashing this from another avatar

[somber sequoia]

if you're importing a working .fbx then that's already done

if you're kitbashing, it really depends on what you've got

[sleek pebble]

not to mention i cant scale them down properly

the tac gear is from Eno3D avatar, while the base is chocolat from booth

[somber sequoia]

never seen either, but you'll want to fit the clothing, then swap it to use the avatar's armature, you only want one armature there.

[sleek pebble]

can i do that through unity?

like do i just copy and paste the armature?

[somber sequoia]

no

[sleek pebble]

also it wont let me scale down individual pieces in unity

[sleek pebble]

so in blender

[somber sequoia]

but you could use something like VRCFury's armature link to connect them in Unity

[sleek pebble]

oh

[somber sequoia]

assuming it fits already. if it doesn't fit, maybe blender

[sleek pebble]

how do i scale it to fit individually tho😭

[somber sequoia]

I do any reshaping in blender

[tranquil heron]

How tf does iOS need the android debug bridge?

Yes, the build target is iOS for your information

[somber sequoia]

did you click "build and test" instead of "build and publish"? that's what uses adb for the android versions

[tranquil heron]

I want to make sure it works for iOS before publishing, VRChat updated their documentation about this new protocol.

https://creators.vrchat.com/platforms/iOS/build-test-mobile

[somber sequoia]

oh so you're testing on an actual device?

[tranquil heron]

Yeah.

I got an iPhone 16 I want to test it on

[somber sequoia]

ah neat, haven't tried that

[tranquil heron]

I am going to reinstall Unity and see if that fixes it.

[sleek pebble]

i mean scaling, not reshaping; like sizing it down

[somber sequoia]

scaling is part of reshaping

[light heath]

Can someone tell me all the steps on how to make a 2-D animated avatar?

[lilac musk]

To save everyone some time, do you understand any portion of it? Or better question would be, what parts specifically do you need help with?

Making avatars is a pretty long process and so stating it all in one reply might be a little much

[light heath]

I know how to do 2-D I really wanna know how to do avatars like how pika1up does his avatar like their animated

[lilac musk]

I don't know pika1up, but animation is still a pretty broad category. Might want to look into animation controllers for more info.

[light heath]

Would there be any tutorials on how to do it because I’ve been trying to look for tutorials but I couldn’t find any I know how to make animation and I know how to do 2-D avatars. I just don’t know how I’m gonna make it compatible.

[lilac musk]

Not sure I'm understanding the question. You want to know of assets to put on a known male base? Might need to rephrase it

[tranquil heron]

Alright, I tried to reinstall iOS support but because this warning is here, I can't modify it.

[lilac musk]

Probably not many video tutorials as it's a bit of a niche topic. Most people read/learn from the Unity documentation.

[lilac musk]

That warning is more for if your making your own video game. VRChat has already fixed their end and seeing as your just uploading content to them, you can ignore it.

[tranquil heron]

Well, I can't install the iOS support while this is here unfortunately.

[lilac musk]

I don't know of something in Unity that would just make a base not skinny. You would either have to get another base that fits your needs, or modify the original in blender

[slim osprey]

do you know the steps to do it in blender and how to successfully import it into unity?

[light heath]

I don’t really want to read that.. so then now I’m stuck in a pickle

[lilac musk]

Huh. This topic might be better suited for #creator-companion ? Maybe someone in there would know more.

[tranquil heron]

I'll pose the question there then. Thanks for your help! :3

[worthy carbon]

i think i might need some help on making avatars, i'm keep doing the old method with the creator companion and got my own model facing backwards lmao

[lilac musk]

Avatar creation is fairly complex, so if you aren't willing to do some research/reading, it might not be for you.

[light heath]

Well, I’ve done research on 2-D avatars then I can make 2d avatar so.

[lilac musk]

Okay

[slim osprey]

so i got these two files / I opened komano.blend in blender IF I Want to edit only his body, can i turn all the toggles off except body and then enter sculpt mode?

or was i supposed to import the fbx file into blender?

[lilac musk]

Opening the blender file should be fine. Sculping is usually done one mesh at a time, so can turn off the other meshes. Just be mindful about creating clipping with other items

[slim osprey]

By clipping you mean once sculpted, body parts can clip through clothes and stuff??

[lilac musk]

Yes

[mental fulcrum]

How do i change the colours for this texture on krita?

[slim osprey]

once im done sculpting how do i export and import into vrc unity? Do i need to toggle all the other scene collections on?

[arctic ginkgo]

have you done retopo? or was this just sculpting on a base (not adding any geometry)?

[slim osprey]

just sculpting on a base the "karada"

[arctic ginkgo]

Well you'll need to export whatever was imported. If everything in your project was imported, then the default settings should be fine. Just make sure to set "Apply Scalings" to FBX All. In order to export, just go to file>export>fbx

[slim osprey]

I dont have anything on my unity project assets folder atm. I sculpted my model from this folder :
Used the file komano.blend

[arctic ginkgo]

You can import the FBX into your unity assest later

[slim osprey]

are these settings as they are fine? :

[still shuttle]

I personally would set Apply scalings to fbx all and uncheck leaf bones

[slim osprey]

I already went ahead but where is the option for apply scalings to fbx all? / i did turn off leaf bones

I placed the mesh into the mesh but how come it shows up like this :

[gusty inlet]

dk if this is the place to ask but does anyone have a lip mask for ''Cici's type 3'' Male head? I'm trying to add lipstick to the top lip and I don't have substance painter nor very good blender knowledge when it comes to painting on meshes

[unique palm]

can anyone helpo me with blender if so please dm me

[austere gale]

How do I work this hud stuff on vr

[somber sequoia]

#3d-modeling possibly, or just ask questions here

[little plume]

how do i fix my avatar preview just being a floating head lol

im using vrcfury to switch which outfits are active, which works fine when wearing the avatar, but the preview is just a floating head

[somber sequoia]

that missing item is probably an issue, even if not this one

[somber sequoia]

this channel is for content creation, maybe you want #1138891887374237706 ?

[little plume]

i already fix that, i noticed it after taking the screenshot, im more worried about the fact the preview is just a floating head

i mean teh avatar works, but the floating head just lokos weird

[somber sequoia]

Sure, it just caught my eye.

[austere gale]

Ah I see, thank you

[gentle iris]

how can i merge a expressions para to the one on my avi?

[balmy barn]

you can use vrcfury full controller like this and it will add to the one on your descriptor on build/play

there is other ways of adding everything to another one , but havnt used that in awhile

[gentle iris]

ok

[balmy barn]

https://github.com/VRLabs/Avatars-3.0-Manager that thing can do it too

[little plume]

my visemes are pretty fucked up

on an old lil nas x avatar i made that was only the rodoe style, the visemes were fine tho

[jade parcel]

anyone familiar with the easy voxel shader and know why this is happening?

wondering if there is also a way to hide this from quest side as i have quest users saying i turn completely pink when i enable it, but was sure the shader said it was supposed to be incompatible with quest. im learning that incompatible =/= wont show for them when i toggle it on pc.

[short ferry]

question, is there a way to have a matcap only effect a specific part of the uv?

[indigo compass]

Incompatible does mean "not compatible", won't work.

And since it simply won't work you need to remove or modify the toggle for it, becoming pink on Quest like you are describing is what happens when you ask it to render a shader it can't render (because custom shaders aren't allowed on Quest avatars), the pink is the fallback for when there is no shader or the shader itself is broken (in this case it is that there is no shader).

Also since I can't tell if you know, Quest and PC avatars are completely separate things, the only thing making them one avatar is the ID they both share, the Quest version could be completely different from the PC version.

I am going to guess you are using easyquestswitch to handle the Quest version, in it you can change a whole load of stuff, so for compatibility reasons I suggest finding the toggle for that material and swapping it out to be the exact same body material the Quest is already using, so basically making it not swap at all, outright removing the toggle is possible but I would recommend against because it is liklier to be problematic

[hot loom]

Can you show me weight paint?

[jade parcel]

thank you. do you by chance have any inkling as to the underarm issue?

[distant nimbus]

im trying to add physbones to this wing asset i put on my avatar. its connected to my avatar properly, and moves with the body. however, there is no sway or wiggle, its just stiff.. any ideas?

[lilac musk]

Does it have a rig/bones?

[distant nimbus]

if this is what youre talking about, it did come with these..?

they move individually if i try to move them manually

physbones just dont affect them

[lilac musk]

What game object do you have your physbone on?

[distant nimbus]

ive tried to put the physbone on literally everything that says "wing," and none work

[lilac musk]

What about chest? Also, can we see your physbone settings?

[distant nimbus]

just tried chest, that doesnt move it either, still stiff

as for phys settings

i put everything to where itll move a LOT

just so i could see it if it moves

[lilac musk]

Odd. Do the gizmos show up at all?

[distant nimbus]

what do you mean by "gizmos" lol

[lilac musk]

When you have physbones on an avatar, and you have that avatar selected in the hierarchy, the script will add visuals of the pyhsbones in the scene camera.

[distant nimbus]

like this?

[lilac musk]

Yea, you can see all the other physbones for your hair and such, but it doesn't look like its showing for the wings. That would also mean it's not working. I'm a little stumped. I'll try to think about what could cause this, but for now, all I can say is maybe close and reopen the project in case it's bugged out.

[distant nimbus]

LOL no worries!! keep me updated 💔

[lilac musk]

?tag scam

Why the bot not work for me 😢

Careful about asking for that stuff on this server, lot of people will try to scam you in your DM's. Go to #1204490664637890580 and find VRCTraders. They are a group who deal with avatar commissions

[left gull]

it only works for people with certain roles sadly

[rough void]

Ok thank yoh for that

[indigo compass]

Only idea I have is that the shader somehow bakes the pixels (voxels) when the model is static, which means it has to stand in a T-Pose to work, so if your avatar isn't standing in a T-pose then. . . try posing it like that I guess?
I have never tried making a A-pose avatar into a T-pose avatar so don't really know what can go wrong.

[manic basin]

anyone know how to fix this

[left gull]

turn culling off so it renders both outside and inside

in the meshes material

[rough void]

16 friend request from people as I made that message 😭

[lilac musk]

You can report them

[dire dagger]

Does anyone know how to rig clothing to an avatar in blender? Data transfer won’t work, theres no armature either I’m using blended 5.0

[lilac musk]

The armature part is the bigger issue. Models have to have an armature to move

[somber sequoia]

same way as you rig anything - add an armature modifier on the mesh, then weight paint.

[analog pivot]

So this has been a problem since last night, I’m trying to download a face tracking package to creators content and it’s not working, everytime I click upload package, the upload button bugs out and it shows it’s loading but doesn’t make any progress and it flashes, I waited like half hour and still no progress

Anybody got an idea why or how to fix it? After work I do plan to reinstall the entire program hoping it won’t delete my projects but if there’s another solution instead, it would be nice to try out

[jade parcel]

any suggestions are appreciated so ty for that. will try that

[ripe tide]

Is it possible to animate avatar scale?

[manic basin]

?

[lilac musk]

They are saying, if it's invisible on one side of the object, you can disable backface culling. It's a setting on some shaders for materials.

Unless that's not the issue

[manic basin]

yeah i don't how to do it tho that's my problem

[lilac musk]

Create a material, change it's shader to something like Poiyomi or Toon Standard, then turn culling to none/off. Then apply that to the mesh.

If you're still not understanding, I'd recommend watching some basic avatar tutorials

https://youtu.be/vWr4diTDqJM
This is a good one

[ripe tide]

Is avatar scaling with animation still possible?

[lilac musk]

It's a built in part of VRChat now

[ripe tide]

With an animation

[lilac musk]

Is the one built into vrchat not good enough or something?

[ripe tide]

Need it scaled with no locked constraints for thing

[lilac musk]

Well I think the old way isn't possible anymore because of the official implantation. No idea if new way is possible or not, but it would probably defeat the limits vrchat put in place for world creators, and thus, might not be something they want you doing.

[ripe tide]

Ah

On the subject of radial sliders I'm not sure if this is just a bug with unity itself or my avatar but sometimes when I flick it back to 0, the radial slider and parameters n stuff say 0 but the animation is still like at an odd pseudo 45% that no one else sees

Probably just a VRChat bug

[lilac musk]

Yea I'd guess it is too

[late heath]

this might be a no brainer question - but how do i prevent avatars from sinking into the floor? would giving her toe bones with no weights on them fix this issue?

[late heath]

ok update, putting toe bones on her fixed the problem for this avatar specifically, but in rare situations i still have avatars with the usual foot build i use that sink into the floor and finding a solution for that would be great regardless

[dark jay]

how do i make a toggle to turn off mouth viseme but keep my object toggle visemes on

[dark jay]

lmk

[timber wharf]

@dark jay wth is object toggle visemes

[dark jay]

I have a object toggle and its a hand puppet model and i made it so it also speaks its a separate model on the hand and when the main model speak it speaks

[hidden epoch]

How do i fix this weird cut off at the top

[timber wharf]

@dark jay k, makes more sense. overall viseme is expected to be a blendshape on main avi, since nothing else would be controlled by a lipsync by default

overall your thing is easy, disable mouth tracking and enable these or those values jumping to these or those blendshapes, also add state to enable mouth tracking back when the bit is over

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/state-behaviors/#animator-tracking-control

https://creators.vrchat.com/avatars/animator-parameters/#built-in-parameters

and no you cant just switch it between the two, not THAT easy

[cold flicker]

hey just a question anytime im trying to upload my avatar on android it keeps getting like a white X beside it

and the whole upload messes up and doesnt work anymore

[somber sequoia]

you'll probably need to show what that looks like

[somber sequoia]

what is that a picture of?

[cold flicker]

^ completly greys the avatar out

it says security checks failed

[somber sequoia]

ah, is it like, really really poor?

[cold flicker]

possibly it is a poor avatar, ill try to optomize it and come back ill send upodats thanks

[cold flicker]

hey i just optomized the avatar more and it ended up working thank you

[somber sequoia]

nice

[west current]

why are the legs doing this?

they keep bending wrong and it looks fine in unity and blender

[clever fern]

so ive had this issue for quite a while and i cant really tell the fix for it???, my camera seems to be in the place it should be in but the model is in the floor when testing with the head sticking out
the green box (unsure what it affects, most likely collision) is only on the head when previewing the avatar, weird

[clever fern]

the model is also sideways but that is my problem lol i know how to fix it

[ornate stump]

The green box is "bounds" to determine whether the avatar is on camera or not.

[west current]

wrong person

[ornate stump]

Opps sorry.

[clever fern]

i see

[west current]

my questions still stands

[ornate stump]

You also have to check view position in the avatar descriptor.

[ornate stump]

The model knee bone need slight bending in rest post so the tracking control can determine bending angle correctly.

[west current]

oh ok

[ornate stump]

See this image from the right side view.

[clever fern]

seems to be fine

[west current]

like this?

[ornate stump]

Yes.

[clever fern]

the only direction ive got to why is the model in the floor is this, and that doesnt help at all

[ornate stump]

Just noticed that the model is facing X direction which is incorrect. In blender You must have the model facing -Y direction and zero rotation.

[west current]

nope

[clever fern]

i know about the facing issue, but by zero rotation do you mean the armature needs 0,0,0 rotation?

[ornate stump]

All object: the armature, the mesh.

[west current]

why is it still broken

[ornate stump]

Are the knee streight down when looking direct from front?

[west current]

no

[ornate stump]

I mean the bones in blender.

[west current]

what

[ornate stump]

You are looking from side.

[ornate stump]

Why it has 3 bones?

[west current]

thigh knee foot

[ornate stump]

The foot should be planted on the ground.

[west current]

ok hold on

[ornate stump]

You will also havae to adjust weight paint if you moved the bone.

[west current]

ok

[late wharf]

How come the hat doesn’t connect to the head correctly

[ornate stump]

Simply because you didn't connect it?

[late wharf]

Hmm how do I do that lol

[ornate stump]

What had you tried to do so far?

[late wharf]

I put the hat in the avatar head by dragging and dropping it on the thing that said head

[west current]

still broke

[ornate stump]

Can you screenshot where you put it?

[late wharf]

Sure one sec

[ornate stump]

Are the knees actually bending forward in that image? Can you take a picture from side as well?

[west current]

looks fine in unity btw

[ornate stump]

In avatar descriptor, disable "Use Auto-Footsteps for 3 and 4 point tracking" and see the result.

[west current]

😭

[ornate stump]

Is it actually fine when it stands?

[west current]

like 50\50

[ornate stump]

Screenshot it intead.