vrchat-general-2

[cedar tinsel]

i have blender questions lmao can someone help

[regal furnace]

there are sites like booth.pm where you can buy high quality models though

[sharp saddle]

#3d-modeling could help.

[vocal shard]

ok i could of sworn at one point u could search for them

[sharp saddle]

But... considering where you got the model from, expect some pushback.

[vocal shard]

thanks anyway

[cedar tinsel]

well an admin started to help me

and i successfully fixed the problem. but they left

and now i don’t know how to put the shirt back on the model

[sharp saddle]

admin

[cedar tinsel]

yeah

[sharp saddle]

Of VRChat or the website-that-must-not-be-nameD?

[cedar tinsel]

in here

[sharp saddle]

Well, alright then.

[cedar tinsel]

a vrchat team admin

i just wanna fix the shirt back and play the game

[pale sparrow]

In the news of why we can't have nice things: the feedback site and the ask forums are getting attacked by spambots 😐

[desert dirge]

those are just the 5 year old quest users

[sharp saddle]

Might be retaliation for what happened a few days ago.

[pale sparrow]

Speaking of 5 year old quest users, when switching my build to android to make my world quest compatible

it low-key bricked my unity installation

can't even work on my world anymore 😐

[sharp saddle]

Like, it locked up the app or it corrupted the file?

[pale sparrow]

Might want to fill me in, kinda out of the loop on that one...

locked up unity and gave my computer a blue screen...

Currently on attempt no.3 to load my project back up... gonna give it a few hours...

[sharp saddle]

Oof.

[vocal shard]

it wasnt about the github repositories right? That has already been dealt with

[sharp saddle]

I think it was the banning.

[pale sparrow]

You know, I have no clue what things are even about, I just make worlds and mind my own business...

I should probably post this on r/OutOfTheLoop 😛

[loud gale]

So if i connect my computer with an ethernet cord, its better than direct linking?

For say virtual desktop

[pale sparrow]

uh, might want to add context...
We talking about VR headsets here?...

[loud gale]

Yeah quest 2

[pale sparrow]

No I mean... Direct Linking in what context?...

If you mean use a link cable to get the internet from your desktop on the quest 2

no real difference if you go wired on your desktop

[vocal shard]

if you have good wired internet connection and use vd it will be better to do that rather than wired

[pale sparrow]

It all depends on the bottleneck you want to eliminate, where things are located, etc.

[vocal shard]

you still are wasting cpu and gpu on streaming but I find its less than the resources it takes for steamvr to oculus vr conversion some wack coding junk

[pale sparrow]

In my room, my wireless speeds are actually faster than wired, but wired gives me higher stability, but in terms of quality, there's no difference between the two cause the throughput isn't high enough to make any difference for the headsets

[vocal shard]

unless ive been fed straight misinfomation from multiple people here if you use a oculus vr headset it does Quote "The Oculus compositor basically renders everything a second time, causing anywhere from a 20% in good cases to up to a 50% performance hit.
VRC render > SteamVR compositor > Oculus compositor > Headset video."

VD skips over the oculus compositor but where your saving perf your using it on streaming for Virtual Desktop

[pale sparrow]

In other news Unity finally finished loading my project and I managed to rotate my camera in scene view a whopping 180 degrees before it froze again

time to wait another hour...

[vocal shard]

how big is your project geez

[pale sparrow]

https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_c8f112b0-d945-4ebf-9047-c718f84133c6

bout 60mb

[vocal shard]

not bad

[pale sparrow]

Which is why I was working on quest compatibility in the first place

[sharp saddle]

No?

[pale sparrow]

since it wouldn't be hard to put on there

[sharp saddle]

Why would there be?

[flat torrent]

VRChat is the VoiceChat

[sharp saddle]

I'm not?

[flat torrent]

Oh boy...

[sharp saddle]

You're*

All I did was answer your question.

[pale sparrow]

Psst, go take your drama somewhere else....

[flat torrent]

Please

[sharp saddle]

^

I am?

[desert dirge]

😡 im mad

[sharp saddle]

Grrr.

[pale sparrow]

In any case, I'm just going to wait another hour until unity decides to respond again

who knows, maybe I'll be able to rotate a full 360 degrees this time

[sharp saddle]

Did you know the phrase "Dammit I'm mad" is a palindrome?

[pale sparrow]

I sure hope building worlds for quest won't always be this painful

[grizzled pewter]

hey is anyone else having issues with friend requests?

i keep trying to add one of my friends but its not going through haha

[desert dirge]

I have not but I know people who are having issues with friends list

[grizzled pewter]

mmk well at least im not alone i guess haha

it's on quest 2 so i dunno whats up

[pale sparrow]

servers might be having a BBQ

[desert dirge]

i think it's just vrc the people I know are on pc

[pale sparrow]

oh hey, after 9 hours vrc staff deleted the spam from the ask forums, neat. good job staff team.

(also sorry ya'll have to do this kind of stuff during the weekends, some people don't know how to behave 😦 )

[woeful granite]

how much is it for a custom made avatar?

[sharp saddle]

Depends on the complexity, the time spent and how much the creator wants per hour.

Some can go upwards of several hundred.

[coarse blaze]

what the fuck did I just read xd

[sharp saddle]

Yes.

[noble depot]

I'd say they'd start at about >$100 and go up from there

obv depends on complexity though

[coarse blaze]

I got mine for 20$ because it was by a friend (I already had a model ready tho)

if including models, triple-four digits, if already have a model, maybe can be within double digits

[twin shale]

they mean from scratch work probably, not using mmd/asset bashing models together and whatnot.

[coarse blaze]

Tupper model was 4digit

what's wrong with asking "why would there be a vc"

[twin fractal]

it's trying it's best to understand the world around it

[simple hinge]

There's a big difference between something like Tupper's being scratch made for 4 digits and the usual run of $20 deviant art TDA recolors

[coarse blaze]

well of course

but if the person wants a mode lfrom scratch it will be at least 100$ if not more

[regal furnace]

a friend of mine does scratch commissions for around 500 bucks

[twin shale]

yeah, it again really depends on complexity and quality

[simple hinge]

No way you'll get anything scratch made for $100. Some avatar makers might so something semi-custom using a base they've already made for a couple hundred.

[coarse blaze]

I just expected for a crappy model to be 100$ at least, didn't think normal models would be only THAT expensive lol

normal decent model is prob like 300$+

[simple hinge]

Best thing to do is to pick up some blender and unity skills of your own. It's not a big jump from kit bashing to DIYing

[regal furnace]

it is possible, like if you are close friends or the guy making the avatar is happy that someone commissions him since he started recently, or its a fairly simple model

[simple hinge]

Technically anything is possible, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[noble depot]

I mean, I've heard of people making models for 15k lmao

whether or not anyone's paid for that is another thing though

[twin fractal]

premade models are like $30-80. so $100 from scratch seems pretty low

[regal furnace]

someone once claimed he got a fairly nice scratch model for 75 bucks because the guy modeling was new to it and was happy that he got that commission

[coarse blaze]

huh, the prices are that high even for premades? :o

[simple hinge]

Honestly, pick up the skills yourself. It seems like it's hard if you look at the big picture, but each step of getting there is pretty easy.

[regal furnace]

i know its hard, thats why i stay with world creation. I let others do the avatar stuff :p

[simple hinge]

Get something you like and work on customizing it to your liking

[coarse blaze]

I'm just way too unattentive to learn stuff alone, I tried picking up 3D modeling because of vrchat, but I just wanted to do smth else lol

[simple hinge]

I keep on meaning to turn this neat Roman bath model I got cheap into a world, but I'm too lazy and know nothing of world making

[regal furnace]

i can help you with that if you want to

[simple hinge]

Throw my hat into the ever increasing ring of sauna and onsen worlds to relax in

Conceptually it seems pretty easy, but I'm not sure how to do things like volumetric steam and whatnot

[coarse blaze]

oh nvm I said smth bad

[regal furnace]

volumetric stuff doesnt work in vrchat, you will need to resort to particle systems

[cold talon]

lul, still cant say that

[simple hinge]

Boo, hiss

[coarse blaze]

I didn't even know that's not allowed considering it's majority of vrchat nowadays

[simple hinge]

I'll shoot you a DM when I actually start on it sometime

[regal furnace]

you mean "wholesome cuddling in private worlds"?

[cold talon]

yeah, no Enterprise Resource Management for us

[simple hinge]

Thanks for the offer

[regal furnace]

sounds good to me 👍

[coarse blaze]

"private"

from what I've seen people do it in publics nowadays

[regal furnace]

lets not assume worst case :p

[simple hinge]

Tfw nobody to Enterprise Resource Plan with in presentation room

We'll do some Computer Based Training too

[regal furnace]

i love how Enterprise Resource Planning became the new term for it on this server

[coarse blaze]

[cold talon]

well it is the first thing that pops up when you search the three magic letters

[simple hinge]

Y'all need jesus

[coarse blaze]

ladies first

[cold talon]

fun fact, a lot of motherboards sold today are E r P ready

[coarse blaze]

don't get bonked after being set free so soon

[cold talon]

why tho, we are just talking about pc features

[twin fractal]

lol I wouldn't be so sure

[vocal shard]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-pc-principal-approved-pc-approved-gif-6337504

[sharp saddle]

2x8 should be enough.

I have 1x16 in mine. Need to swap it out.

[noble depot]

Make sure that you're buying the correct form factor of RAM for your laptop! o:

DDR4 is a type of RAM, check the form factor of RAM that your laptop needs o:

SODIMM most likely, afaik

[vocal shard]

Wats a computah im noob

Zuvali explain what a computah is.

[noble depot]

a magic smoke inhibitor

[vocal shard]

Thats my E cigarette..

Im hardware and software.

i like it hard.. and soft.

[coarse blaze]

If your pc generates magic smoke, there are issues with it me thinks

[vocal shard]

Redhat.

[coarse blaze]

Yeah, windows 10

[noble depot]

I mean, as long as you don't let the magic smoke out of the sparky bits it's fine o:

[twin shale]

if it's magic smoke that means it's working faster

[vocal shard]

what if.. you smoke it and its magical.. does that mean you are a wizard harry?

[coarse blaze]

Well, if you’re over 30 and single, yes

[vocal shard]

Well im a wizard then..

[twin shale]

what if there is a risk of turning into a hardware

[vocal shard]

hmm.. you cant have just hardware without its counterpart software.. if you turn i will support you.

[twin shale]

what determines the compatibility then in this case?

[vocal shard]

hmm

Opposites attract?

[arctic elm]

So, any possibility that VRC will write their own version of dynamic bones and provide it free with the SDK so we can have global dynamic bones in the future?

[split lotus]

I doubt it, they're focused on rewriting their networking and udon at the moment

[twin shale]

there always is a possibility of that happening but i doubt that will ever be a good enough of priority for it actually to be done

i feel like going forward there is always going to be reasons to work on something else that means more for the platforms like new systems etc...

[arctic elm]

Bringing it up because Tupper just replied to it on the canny and it sounds like it being poorly written is what's holding global bones back

[coarse blaze]

while I don't want to bring up a topic like that, considering they've started communicating with the modders, you could probably have someone write their own code on it and if the vrcdevs communicate about it and accept it, have it implemented into the sdk

[noble depot]

In the future yes, but likely not soon

[split lotus]

Dynamic bones and physics is a massive deal and requires experienced covers and extensive time

But I'm hoping they open up to modders and would actually introduce a framework for people to mod and or contribute in a semi open source way with the devs.

[arctic elm]

official mod support of sorts, even if only for verified mod devs would be great tbh. global dynamic bones would be super awesome to have

[coarse blaze]

someone suggested that it should be an on or off feature player by player (off by default ofc), which doesn't sound like a bad idea

[twin shale]

Official mods i imagine is a bit of a scary topic, you never know how the bad part of the community will go about sharing malware but saying it's a mod etc...

[vocal shard]

I would truly love a real physics system.. as it stands gmod has better.. and thats really saying something.. although funnily enough.. gmod also had issues with renders from mirrors back in the day, lol.

[arctic elm]

it could prolly be added to the safety system at some point. turn it on or off based on rank, then change it per user

[arctic elm]

it's prolly less scary than just having everyone use mods like it is now. if the mods are from verified creators then they're less likely to be malware

[noble depot]

To be fair though, GMod (and all Havok-based Source games by default) has a 25k physics engine lmao

Havok engine's 25k by default, though likely you can get it cheaper by contacting them and working it out on a per-company/project basis kinda thing, but still lol

[vocal shard]

I really really miss gmod.. you gotta look at it like this though.. i mean look at Udon in the now.. now compare that the E2 in wire.. its strange how udon really does look.. but E2 is superior in development terms.. the things we made in that back in the day.. vrchat servers would never be able to handle.. oh how i miss building spaceships full scale.. mind you i used to build bombs so big i would down most of the servers i went to.

[noble depot]

E2 was super capable of making malicious stuff though

as far as I remember it was just Kinda Limited™ C#

[vocal shard]

Yeah E2 was absolutely amazing..

[twin shale]

"Less likely" is a worrying part to be honest, you never know with certain people they might act nice until they hit a certain point where they change their view on things and do something different, you know there is still a risk of something happening.

[vocal shard]

I was stuck with GPU for ages.. we was trying to get games running on it.. was a near impossible task with how slow it was.

[arctic elm]

personally i'd prefer less risk than a bunch of risk using unsupported mods. but that's ofc something the vrc team would have to figure out themselves.
dynamic bones are a big hit to performance, and cost $20, so it'd def be super cool to have a better version free in the sdk so we can all play with our friends... ears c:

[vocal shard]

You know.. most of that is only going to apply over here though.. its bad enough people running around with particle bombs and shaders.. and that was before Udon too.. so cant really compare.. Udon is for the better but also the worse if we think about how E2 worked.. but i doubt we will have people parenting to peoples heads.. that was hilarious but yeah.. pure troll. lol

[twin shale]

Yeah i guess i can agree with that, i just see it being a hassle from a team's side having to approve things and whatnot when they already work on their own product, it takes away time from development having to go and maintain and approve mods etc...

[coarse blaze]

I want to be able to floof a foxgirl's floofy tail

[twin shale]

everyone does

[arctic elm]

yeah that's the downside, they'd prolly have to just approve modders and action them if they go rouge in the future, rather than code review each mod and update submitted. though I've been told there's modding groups that do code review, but then you have to trust that they don't go rouge too

[twin shale]

yeah that's my thoughts as well, the problem is taking action after the damage was done is a bit late especially with the case of malware.

[pale sparrow]

I think a big issue with VRC as it stands, isn't the performance issues per-se, it's the lack of (accessible) knowledge on how to optimize things properly. I've seen avatars with 1m polygons just cause people don't know how to reduce said polygons....

[arctic elm]

oh yeah also the vrc docs arent great on optimization. some things it says aren't very accurate apparently

[twin shale]

I think most of those cases are people willingly going high-poly because they don't want to miss-out on it being lower quality

[pale sparrow]

At this point in time, I don't really use the docs to begin with

cause it doesn't tell me what I need to know...

[arctic elm]

which is not only a problem for experienced creators, but also new users

[umbral reef]

To be fair, there are so many special situations when it comes to optimizing things it's not odd they don't attempt to make any documentation on it

[uncut trail]

Didnt facebook data leak this morning ?

[umbral reef]

Even the basics right now that they talk about are full of special exemptions and ect

[pale sparrow]

@umbral reef that's not really an excuse....

There'll always be exemptions and edge cases...

[arctic elm]

The whole performance system needs a bit of a rework tbh

[coarse blaze]

how

[umbral reef]

Also what would they need to explain past saying you gotta decimate it?
They can't make a tutorial for most softwares and keep it up to date...

[twin shale]

i mean, they could fake movement of the tail with AV3 or something when you touch it

[coarse blaze]

do you not always use a weeb model?

[arctic elm]

especially now with av3, it's better to have separate meshes for clothes, and toggle them instead of merging meshes and deflating them, afaik

[coarse blaze]

why even play vrc if you don't use a weeb model

how

[arctic elm]

furry

[coarse blaze]

[vocal shard]

If your a fox you get more pats Svel 👀

[low ingot]

anyone having issues with audio instantly cutting out?

[umbral reef]

Also less strange. It's more the petting a cat vibe then petting a human

[vocal shard]

If your starfox however.. people just go meh and ignore you. lol

Petting humans is ok tho, right?

Depends how old they are.

[umbral reef]

Not sure where you live...

[pale sparrow]

I should correct myself. looks like they added proper tips on avatar optimization...
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/avatar-optimizing-tips updated 5 days ago

Would've still liked a portion on texture compression/size

but hey, potato, potato

[twin shale]

it was there for a very long time

probably around since quest release times? i don't remember

[pale sparrow]

I haven't touched avatars since 2019

[vocal shard]

that.. is one old nursery rhyme, brings back memories of my youth..

[umbral reef]

They been updating it the past year but even then it's understandable that people don't get the info there at all or big stuff is lacking

[pale sparrow]

Personally, I think the end goal of the docs should be similar to unity's own official documentation

[vocal shard]

Tbh i find unity's documentation good but i never followed a single shred of it.. i made do on my own all the way through. lol

[umbral reef]

If they do so it will be the most detailed explanation on optimization within unity that's free for everyone

[pale sparrow]

I wasn't limiting that to just optimisation

[twin shale]

the only time i looked at unity's documentation is when i was confused if i should go with .wav or .ogg

[pale sparrow]

I was extending it to sdk2 and 3

[vocal shard]

which ever one ends up in a smaller file size

[umbral reef]

Doubt they will go into big details of sdk2
Would love to see more 3.0 examples for sure ye

[pale sparrow]

There are so many times I go "what does x script even do?!"

[vocal shard]

oh my god.. lols.. yeah i do actually recall doing that part too.. i was using my favourite program to dump those files.. goldwave.. only mentioned that yesterday to a user too.. but yeah good times.

[pale sparrow]

Eh, with sdk 3 I just stick to udon# and just use the unity documentation

Still angry that Udon doesn't support LinQ, so no linked lists...

but hey, it's better than nothing

Wait, is linked lists in linq, or was that collections.generic

ugh, microsoft, why do you have so many different libraries....

So... probably asked before, but, any news on a version bump for unity?...

[rancid jewel]

varneons udon vehicles island is cool as hell

[noble depot]

Likely not soon - if I'm remembering correctly, VRChat had to work with Unity for the 2017 > 2018 port, because otherwise a content wipe was planned

upgrading to Unity 2019/2020 LTS would have a p good chance of breaking every existing bit of UGC for not much gain, though could def be wrong on that o:

there's still content from Unity 5.6.3 in the game o:

[meager solstice]

I mean using the Lts versions makes it better to convert stuff but it’s still lots of work. I still have my models from 5.6.3

[pale sparrow]

It's actually not as bad as it used to be...

[meager solstice]

@pale sparrow yep

[pale sparrow]

with unity 5.x.x going to any version like 5.5 to 5.6 was basically a dice roll weather or not it would permanently fuck your project

with the 20xx series, things have somewhat standardized and migration has been somewhat eased (personal experience)

[meager solstice]

Yep

[noble depot]

def note the scale of VRChat though o:

[meager solstice]

I’m still for a content wipe of older stuff

[pale sparrow]

That said, it'll always been a hitting things back in order after version bumps

[noble depot]

while moving over individual avatars or worlds might def be an otherwise doable pain, moving the game's version as a whole without breaking everything is something else

[pale sparrow]

Eh, I think in the grand scheme of things, a content wipe might actually be a good thing....

It would allow the VRC team to change the approach of delivering content

[simple hinge]

Still early access. There'd be a lot of outcry about it, though.

[pale sparrow]

I mean, 2020 is LTS

[noble depot]

this Discord would see a rage 10x worse than the VRC+ announcement lol

[simple hinge]

Remember the update from 5.6? The player base has multiplied 10-20x since then or so?

[meager solstice]

I mean, it’ll more then likely be simple reuploads

[pale sparrow]

Well, 5.6 to 20xx is a different matter

[simple hinge]

Even for the update from 5.6, they had Unity helping them to break things as little as possible

[twin shale]

even then things barely broke, it required a single reupload to fix things

[rancid jewel]

if they upgrade unity again the entire catalog of contents gonna break

[simple hinge]

I'm not familiar enough with the nuances between Unity versions, but there's every reason to think that 2018 to 2020 would also be pretty breaking

[noble depot]

Also, doing a content wipe would permenantly lose content with lost project files, not to mention permenantly losing the content of people who've died

[rancid jewel]

unless they do something with unity themselves again

[simple hinge]

@twin shale how much content is no longer supported by its uploader? Either they lost the files or left the game or just don't care enough to upload it again?

[pale sparrow]

when unity went fro the 5.x.x series to the 20xx series, they re-wrote a large chunk of how unity worked, which is also the reason they changed the numbering scheme to begin with.

Which is why for a lot of studios the jump was quite big

[twin shale]

I'm not going against your point i'm trying to support it, but there is a lot. definitely.

[meager solstice]

Imagine the landfills of uploaded knuckle models

[simple hinge]

@pale sparrow Thanks, that's actually a pretty succinct explanation.

[pale sparrow]

but from my own experiences, the jumps from 2017 to 2019 and 2020 were pretty minor, at most it was scripts that needed tweaking cause of deprecation

but with vrc content

there'll probably need a custom bridge put in place that'll translate things from the older versions to the newer ones

there's no sweeping changes with internal formatting so that should be somewhat dooable

[rancid jewel]

they'll have to contact unity themselves again, like they did with upgrading from 2017 to 2018

[simple hinge]

At this point vrchat is one of the biggest unity games. I'm sure they have enough clout with Unity to get some custom shit done for them

[twin shale]

i think i tried opening a few files from 2018.4 on 2020's unity and it just outright would crash on import
Where as on previous transitions i never actually seemed to have any issues with my projects

[pale sparrow]

Unless you were using preview packages, I've had that rarely if ever happen

[meager solstice]

I mean.... makes sense

I’ve found it iffy tho

[pale sparrow]

Meanwhile, working on my quest port:
"this world is too large for vrchat to load on this platform, the maximum size is 50mb, current size is 67.94mb"

[meager solstice]

oof

[pale sparrow]

Welp, time to see where I can squeeze my performance a bit more, probably the lightmap...

[twin shale]

More compression!

[noble depot]

audio files can be vv large too! o:

[pale sparrow]

funnily enough...

the windows build is smaller than the android build...

windows build is 58.5mb, quest is 67.9mb

[meager solstice]

Interesting

[pale sparrow]

wait... why is the animation of my moon rotating around the z axis

3mb...

it's literally 3 keyframes...

how high are you unity?!

[granite parrot]

Can I just say something?

People really don't realise how simple optimizing avatars for quest is

I managed to import the original model of Dr. Breen from Half-Life 2, and get a "Good" performance rating on Quest, just by baking textures

Really wish more people realised that it's that simple

[distant rampart]

ooh

[granite parrot]

and the avatar is bigger than its supposed to be anyway, so it's possibly "Excellent" at the right scale

[spring mist]

guys

does vrc have the "vrchat home" world available to like download and modify

[pale sparrow]

something like that

[umbral reef]

Sadly not, there is an old version that you can download and edit

[granite parrot]

don't think so??

[distant rampart]

I don't think so

[spring mist]

old version?

👀

[warped nexus]

Lost all of my favorite avatars, and I cant add avatar as favorite on pcvr
Just bought a Quest 2 yesterday, and I had to make a VR Chat account, so I made a account, and I think I transfer all of my skins. But, when I went on Vr chat when I was on my quest 2 (wasnt hooked up on my pc yet, standard quest 2 vr chat). I had all of my avatars, and I wasnt able to change my avatars through my "Favorite Avatar" tab. Well, I just hook up my quest 2 on my PC today, and now Ive lost all of my favorite avatars, and I cannot even favorite avatars anymore. I also lost my favorite worlds. I'm not using "steam" login anymore, Im using VR Chat account. I reinstalled my game, and I still havent got my avatars back. How do I get my favorite avatars back? and able to favorite avatars.

[umbral reef]

Yea, the personal home version before this one, let me see if i can dig up a link for ya

[spring mist]

ty my guy

[noble depot]

Did you merge your Steam and VRChat accounts together? o:

[granite parrot]

^^

[distant rampart]

^^

[warped nexus]

Yes.

[noble depot]

If it's been more than a day or so since you've merged the accounts, contact #vrchat-support o:

[umbral reef]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/vrchat-home-kit
It was a tutorial for SDK2 unity on making worlds
You can also just follow any SDK3 tutorial for worlds with this if you want

[warped nexus]

Ok, its been like 12 hours, Im going to wait for a day or so. then, ill contact them!

[granite parrot]

Hey, was the account you merged to a brand new account? If it already had any favorites or friends, it won't merge it iirc

[warped nexus]

Yeah, it was a brand new account

[spring mist]

pog

[distant rampart]

OOH

I forgot all about that tut.

[granite parrot]

I'd just wait and contact support if necessary then

[pale sparrow]

speaking of optimization, you can even push your filesize lower by changing the texture size and using compression so many people that leave it on 2k texture size when they're just using a 1k image, not realizing that'll upscale the image...

[warped nexus]

Ok, im going to wait, thank you.

[granite parrot]

this right here

so many people use 2k unnecessarily

[umbral reef]

Or upscale it to an 16K texture

[pale sparrow]

add to that, your metalic map, doesn't need to be 1k...

[fair plank]

Hi

[pale sparrow]

you can get away with putting that at 512 or even lower...

no one will notice...

[granite parrot]

Yeah, hell in some cases you don't even need one

Depends on your avatar

but yet most people include them no matter what

[pale sparrow]

well in this case I'm talking about props in worlds

[granite parrot]

Ah, fair enough

[pale sparrow]

On that topic, there's a great tool, vrworld tools, helps you see what's causing your filesize to bloat

it's geared towards worlds specifically

but it's a godsend to figure out what's causing things to bloat

[granite parrot]

Oh? Is it solely for worlds or does it support avatars too

[noble depot]

It's oriented around worlds, so it might give you some weird advice lol

[distant rampart]

Oooh another neptune fan <3

[granite parrot]

fair enough, thanks for the info

[pale sparrow]

never tried it on avatars, it uses the last build file to give you advice

so it might work on avatars as well

[granite parrot]

I'll have to give it a try, heh

[distant rampart]

I do voicework for it, so its always fun to find someone who has similar interests 💜

[glossy flume]

anyone want to play vrchat with me? Baby_LunaKatz

[rancid jewel]

hello fellow vrchat enjoyers

[distant rampart]

Hello~

[rancid jewel]

what conspiracies are we cooking on the menu today?

[pale sparrow]

That everyone's wholesome and enjoying their life

[distant rampart]

I'm not wholesome

[rancid jewel]

my favorite is bacon and eggs.

[elder raft]

someone in a public "Just B Club" world with a modded client, teleporting people to a room and causing everyone to get stuck infinitely falling

[distant rampart]

Someone the other day joined my pug and was spamming raciserms + deleting the floor as well, fun times.

[rancid jewel]

if you recorded it, send it with a report in #moderation-reports

[granite parrot]

Yeah, I encountered that like an hour and half ago

Here's the thing, it causes your menus to break

[rancid jewel]

--with an external recording software.

like xbox game bar or OBS

[granite parrot]

Yeah, but how are ya supposed to figure out who it was?

[rancid jewel]

if their name is in the video at any point

[granite parrot]

But it's teleporting everyone

everyone's name is gonna be there

[rancid jewel]

still.

[simple hinge]

Reprojection helps, especially considering it's not really a fast paced action game

[boreal dome]

i got that stuck freefalling earlier today, it was mad annoying

[vocal shard]

Anyone wanna start a cult?

Only if you sacrifice the pure.. so quest 2 users would be your best bet.

Meet me in a world called Station 13

The 1st one in the updated recentlytab

[vocal shard]

Meet me in the 1st worl in the “recently updated” tab Station 13

You can’t miss me

[vocal shard]

you mean the walking spy cams?

@vocal shard wanna join my cult a.

I’m in Station 13

i'm good my man, but thanks

Wait nvm not anymore heading to where most people would join

An FNF world

I would join you but this old man just took some chill pills and i fear that sacrificing quest 2 users would just be so exciting that his heart may give out, so I will give it a miss for today.

We are legit huge though for the aviator

[manic horizon]

i like cults, what's fnf?

[rancid jewel]

friday night funkin

that rhythm game you've probably been seeing literally everywhere

[manic horizon]

oh i'm new, haven't heard yet tbh

[rancid jewel]

the one where the short dude with blue hair goes beep boop bop

[manic horizon]

sounds like a good time

[vocal shard]

That is a new one on me.. it's mainly because of its child to adult population mostly.. spy cams IS an interesting theory though.

[rancid jewel]

it's pretty fun

[vocal shard]

If you ever wanna play sometime or whatever I'd like to play with yah, me you and the gang, we are more regular than most.. would be cool me meet up play games and such.

[rancid jewel]

yeah sure i'd be glad to play vrchat
my usernames WeeWDiedrich if you wanna send a friend request

[vocal shard]

Gotcha, will do.

I'm just Omega over there..easily name to spell really lol

[rancid jewel]

when i first came up with the username WeeWDiedrich on blockland in like 2018 i had a stroke typing it out lol

(not really, just kinda making mistakes a lot.)

[vocal shard]

Haha yeah its a bitch trying to remember things like that

[rancid jewel]

just so you know my voice is definitely higher pitched then a lot of other peoples

i usually play at like 2-4pm pst

[vocal shard]

Mate your personality is decent and you make a good friend honestly your always sociable and reliable, your voice wouldn't put me off :)

[rancid jewel]

neat

you cant

[vocal shard]

Which country you in, will have to convert your time to uk time

[rancid jewel]

america

[vocal shard]

Gotcha

[noble depot]

You can turn up the minimum displayed avatar rank in the top-right of the safety settings, though note that Very Poor avatars can't be auto-enabled afaik

[rancid jewel]

those avatars are probably blocked because their rating is very poor, which is 20,000+ polygons

[vocal shard]

Hmm 8 hrs ahead last one checked

[rancid jewel]

having them all unblocked at once is laggy as hell

[noble depot]

^ yus, def note that those avatars are hidden for a reason lmao, and yw! c:

[rancid jewel]

that could've been worse lol

[vocal shard]

Use frisky avatars in rooms we create for that kind of material and you can do whatever you like in a private.

[rancid jewel]

my avatar 90% of the times gonna be my usual tron robot guy

[noble depot]

You can't, NSFW avatars are against TOS in privates too o:

[vocal shard]

I have private gay pubs for trans only.

[rancid jewel]

using nsfw avatars is a no go

[noble depot]

[rancid jewel]

ill probably just turn all avatars off in safety or something in situation like that.

[vocal shard]

Yeah that's probably wise

[noble depot]

note that you can press the trigger and menu buttons together on both controllers to enter Safe Mode, which hides all avatars/shaders/etc for all ranks

on desktop it's Shift + ESC if I'm remembering correctly

[rancid jewel]

don't wanna manually hide peoples avatars, that lowers their trust rank little bit.

[noble depot]

not sure it does, blocking def does though o:

[rancid jewel]

I only block people if like they're top tier annoying
like if they're a 7 year old screaming into their mic

[vocal shard]

I took some great chills a minute ago.. they starting to kick in now.. I wish I had an unlimited supply of these.. lol

[simple hinge]

Hiding doesn't as far as I'm aware. Blocking definitely does. They're pretty opaque about the inner workings of the trust system.

[rancid jewel]

who wanna bet a big portion of vrchat code is just trust system

most complicated system in any mmo ever

[simple hinge]

Probably not as much as you think.

[vocal shard]

Hmm it could be

It could also be time based on interaction because packets are logged the more interaction the more gets saved.. so overall i would say the formula is time in interactive with friends and just messaging around in general.

[simple hinge]

What do packets have to do with anything here?

[vocal shard]

Everything in in regsrds to a users rank.

[rancid jewel]

i don't know anything about anything we're talking about but it sounds cool

[simple hinge]

I... guess you could make it that way, but it seems exceptionally unwieldy to count packets as a measure of anything.

[vocal shard]

Packets define if something is moving or not to overall I'd say the more interaction and the more used the chances of Ireland rasing possibly are increased.

[simple hinge]

❓ ❔

[vocal shard]

Yeah the pills are 6 sling and affect

[simple hinge]

You do you

[vocal shard]

I will make no sense in the end. Such is life lol

[noble depot]

[reef zinc]

i cant login, is vrchat down?

[noble depot]

Try logging in with your e-mail instead of your username? o:

[vocal shard]

Zuvali will take over because I'm too out of it and just making an arse outta myself with typing.. lol

[reef zinc]

well, its not a user problem, it just says failed to login

i dont think its a user problem, atleast

a bit worried because my friends got their steam accs hacked

[noble depot]

still, would recommend trying the e-mail method! o:

[reef zinc]

alright, thanks

[vocal shard]

You burn

[reef zinc]

ok it works thank god

[vocal shard]

I dread to think

You've split to to multiple channels to try and evade it.

[tawny oxide]

because there really do be grown men dressing as small children

[vocal shard]

Yes men grown men dressing up in diapers too..

[steel dagger]

How sad does someones life have to be to pursue women or men on this game...

[coarse blaze]

at least a 3rd of vrchat's pop

[steel dagger]

I just ran into a couple degenerates just being assholes to people to try to impress these girls and me and my homie roasted the fucking fuck out of them.

[limber garnet]

With any social medium you run into people who are less than savory.

[simple hinge]

I'm aware of several people who've formed lasting relationships that started in VR. Other people just like doing lewd things with each other. Different strokes for different folks? /shrug

[steel dagger]

You could tell they wanted that vr triple x

[simple hinge]

Nothing wrong with that if it's not unwanted and between consenting adults.

[vocal shard]

apart from the against TOS part

[coarse blaze]

and it basically being a sign of successful failure at life

[steel dagger]

Your not wrong but the girls looked like they didnt want any part of that

I'm personally not going to waste my time on a person I wont know in a few years or months or weeks

Both in vr and irl

[simple hinge]

TOS or not, it's nothing that's never happened on the internet or over the phone before.

[vocal shard]

Dont ask dont tell type deal

Everyone has their own opinion on edating do what you want

I think edating is not the way to go on this game

[coarse blaze]

it's not bad if you hit the right person

[vocal shard]

one way ticket to get hurt

[simple hinge]

Live and let die. E-dating in VR is a mistake, but it's yours to make.

[coarse blaze]

but the chances of it working out are so low even gacha games seem generous

[vocal shard]

true

[simple hinge]

I like to quip - two kinds of people in this world

[coarse blaze]

like I have two friends that I brought together and they've been "edating" for a year now, would've already met if not for covid

[simple hinge]

Those who want to be left alone, and those who won't leave them alone.

[coarse blaze]

it just happened that I met the right person for my irl friend

[vocal shard]

how does it feel to be a successful matchmaker

they need to fix their shit

[coarse blaze]

down catastrophic

[vocal shard]

im like getting really pissed off.

[coarse blaze]

I want my own match

also fix what

[vocal shard]

i keep getting crashed over and over and over and over and over again

it keep saying vrchat stop responding

Sucks to be you then

[noble depot]

how much RAM do you have? o:

[coarse blaze]

as soon as you launc the game or while playing the game?

[vocal shard]

and then another error pops saying vrchat unity blah blah cant work.

as soon as i join a world

and im still waiting for them to respond to me on email

[wintry loom]

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/1wg2e2/vrchat_v020_released/

[vocal shard]

what is this?

if anyone wants to turnup add me I'm djing in the void

fye

[sick valley]

The void

[old jackal]

hallooo

[late void]

Oh no are you a quest user? His worlds and avatars are not available on quest, my bad

[candid rose]

where to i ask for people to meet up with? :3

[coarse blaze]

you go to public instances and meet up with people there :3

[candid rose]

thank u <3

[late void]

Why don't you friend him or find him in this discord

[vocal shard]

How do I launch vrchat from quest 1 in virtual desktop. I'm having troubles.

[coarse blaze]

well that guy got bonked quite fast lul

[cedar rune]

Hey

Cna you answer why my friend kacper was banned

[coarse blaze]

@vast tulip was that an authorised self-ad

[cedar rune]

Why was he banned give me a reason

[coarse blaze]

thanks mimi

[cedar rune]

Bro ignore me

Why

[vocal shard]

So does anyone know how to open vrchat from virtual desktop on quest 1?

[gritty rose]

sorry. I didn't notice that I can't post study ads in this channel. Can I do the same in #shameless-self-promotion ? What about language specific channels?

[vocal shard]

Okr

[coarse blaze]

shameless self promotion is more for VRChat-specifically related posts

overall this entire server is aimed towards vrchat and not exactly oculus or vive

[gritty rose]

yeah. it's a user study conducted in VR Chat

[coarse blaze]

mmm... it's probably best to attempt contacting them via #vrchat-support, but I'd have low hopes

[gritty rose]

all right, thanks

[coarse blaze]

gl on the phd, if the devs are feeling nice enough they might let you in on an ad

[gritty rose]

👍

[late void]

Because nobody knows. None of us in chat are vrchat mods breh

[coarse blaze]

don't they dm you the reason you get kicked/banned anyways

[vocal shard]

dyno bot usually does but they are probably asking the exact reason instead of say rule 7 or harassment

[rancid jewel]

yeah

[manic horizon]

i'm being brave tonight guys, plugged in my mic and everything

[lime stag]

nice

[manic horizon]

ya! 😄

every world i load into looks empty, but i think it's just bc my net is slow

[gusty crater]

anyone know where the eggs are in the le frog pond?

[rancid jewel]

there's one behind the frog that tells you how to play

i dont know where any of the other ones are though

[steel dagger]

What does James Bond do before bed?

[steel dagger]

He goes undercover.

[rancid jewel]

oh my fucking god

[steel dagger]

HAH!

[manic horizon]

hehe

[rancid jewel]

why was that actually pretty good

[steel dagger]

I used to hate facial hair, but then it grew on me!

[rancid jewel]

for fucks sake

[steel dagger]

Why cant you hear a psychiatrist using the bathroom?

[steel dagger]

Because the P is silent!

[rancid jewel]

please spare my soul

[steel dagger]

Can Febuary March?

[noble depot]

no, but April May

[manic horizon]

idk but april may

[steel dagger]

No! But April May!

Fuck

[rancid jewel]

how many of these do you have

[manic horizon]

ha!

[steel dagger]

Did you hear about the guy who invented the knock knock joke?

[vocal shard]

the more you know

[steel dagger]

He won the nobel prize!

[vocal shard]

t h e m o r e y o u k n o w

[noble depot]

I'm internally reading all of these in the yoda voice, I hope you know

[rancid jewel]

this is so corny its literally a cornfield

[steel dagger]

What's brown and sticky?

[vocal shard]

cunm

[rancid jewel]

a stick

[steel dagger]

A stick!

[manic horizon]

"no bell" took me a min, ngl

[steel dagger]

Fuck!

[rancid jewel]

gottem
hahahahaahdwdhudf3v

[steel dagger]

What do you get from a pampered cow?

[steel dagger]

Spoiled milk!

[vocal shard]

damn

[worthy oracle]

wow hitting basically 40k concurrent online users, vrchat be blowing up

[rancid jewel]

you shouldve seen the time we hit 50k

[worthy oracle]

wasnt that on new years

[noble depot]

50k number was the API wigging out

[rancid jewel]

#bottalk message

[noble depot]

New Years got up to 40k before CloudFlare thought VRChat was getting DDoSed lol

[steel dagger]

I'm out of jokes

[rancid jewel]

good

[steel dagger]

Are you challenging me?

[rancid jewel]

i cant grow any more corn

[steel dagger]

What rock has four men that dont sing?

[rancid jewel]

mount rushmore

[steel dagger]

Mount Rushmore!

[noble depot]

that 54k number was right around a weirdly massive spike in playercount that very quickly dropped back down to around 29.5k-ish users, while the amount of Steam user's didn't change at all - probably the API dying a bit there o:

[steel dagger]

Fucking fuck

[rancid jewel]

gottem

[steel dagger]

What do sprinters eat before a race?

[steel dagger]

Nothing, they fast!

[noble depot]

T-Mobile™

laugh

[steel dagger]

Why couldnt the bicycle stand up by itself?

[steel dagger]

It was two tired!

I need a mod to ban me

[rancid jewel]

but then whos gonna tell corny jokes

[steel dagger]

Google them

[thorn blaze]

is there a way to see how old an account is in vrchat?

[rancid jewel]

you look into the api

[spring mist]

guys

[steel dagger]

I'm done

[spring mist]

rift s or quest 2 for vrchat

[rancid jewel]

quest 2 with link cable

[noble depot]

^

[spring mist]

quest 2 with link cable is better than rift s? 🤔

[rancid jewel]

yes

[noble depot]

yup, imo

[rancid jewel]

better resolution, framerate, controllers, comfort.

well, not really comfort as much.

but in every other area it's better.

[noble depot]

Rift S has a higher resolution slightly, but the Quest 2 has a higher refresh rate

[rancid jewel]

ah, didn't know that.

[noble depot]

the Quest 2 can run as a standalone VR headset though, which the Rift S obv can't o:

[rancid jewel]

also rift s has a ton of driver issues

[noble depot]

Rift S also has the inevitable robot/no mic issue

[spring mist]

k but in my case idc about using it standalone

[rancid jewel]

using it linked is the best

[noble depot]

I'd still say get a Quest 2 with a link cable/Virtual Desktop/ALVR

[spring mist]

if i ever was to get a quest 2 it would be with link cable all it's life

[noble depot]

Virtual Desktop or ALVR is basically just the link cable, without the cable

[rancid jewel]

you can use practically any cable with usb c end as a link cable

[noble depot]

as long as it's a data cable, yus

though you probably want to get a long one if you're going with the cabled route lol

[spring mist]

i would buy the original cable but used from ebay lmao-

a reddit reply convinced me lulw

[rancid jewel]

make sure you have the right port for it on your pc

official link cable is usb c to usb c

[noble depot]

note that the Oculus Link cable is $80 and is USB C to USB C, yus

[spring mist]

found one for 65 used on ebay (sketch) but that's how i roll

[rancid jewel]

i dont have a usb c port on my pc, so i had to get a usb c to usb a cable.

[noble depot]

would recommend looking at something like a 10ft Anker cable($22), or really any long USB C data cable o:

[spring mist]

i would get all this later on when i build a new pc coz my sht is antique

i'd get a pcie card with the usb c at a high enough amperage to charge the headset too

[manic horizon]

does the discord ever do scheduled events in game?

[rancid jewel]

no

[twin shale]

there is other discords that do that

[manic horizon]

oh ok, i'm so new i just hop around worlds looking for peeps

[manic horizon]

oh, good to know, ty!

[rancid jewel]

the vrdiscord does that

[twin shale]

You can keep an eye out here in case you want to find out about events, they have their own discord too
https://vrchatevents.com/

[manic horizon]

perfect, thank you both

[coarse blaze]

wasn't there a channel that posted events

[rancid jewel]

no

i dont think there was

[twin shale]

there was, guess they got rid of it
so that's what disappeared when i was thinking something was different.

[rancid jewel]

idk why t hey would do that

[noble depot]

There was a #community-events channel or something similar yeah, got removed a while ago o:

[twin shale]

bot used to post info about events there but you have #community-servers-old and it features a bunch of places with events and whatnot and there is always that website, so it's plenty of ways to find events honestly

[manic horizon]

yeah the website is super helpful

[balmy crane]

can someone help? im trying to make an account for the first time but it keeps saying an unknown error occurred

[thorn blaze]

did you try refreshing

[balmy crane]

yes still wont work

[blazing epoch]

hey is anyone interested in joining drinking night or another chill world and just hanging out?

[balmy crane]

Nvm it's finally working

[crisp hill]

not essentially

depends what you wanna use it for

@pliant void I will send you a video

[stray briar]

Helloooo just downloaded this today so I can hang out with some of my friends. Is ahh, there a particular place to go or person to talk to that can tell me how to use custom avatars? >.> I have a few in mind but would not know how to go about getting them into my game to use. Sorry if this has already been answered XD

[noble depot]

If you mean avatars that aren't the default avatars, look for avatar pedestals in worlds (they tend to look like cylinders with a picture of the avatar on them - click on the picture). There's a whole category of avatar worlds in the worlds menu, and there's also a search bar at the top-right of the menu too, if you want to look for more specific search terms c:

If you mean custom-made new avatars, you can either make your own with Unity, or pay someone else to make one for you c:

All ingame avatars are free, to clarify

[stray briar]

Ahh ok , I had found a place to get a few for free, they are so cute, but I've no idea how to get them into my game. Would you be able to link me to a valid Unity download link?

[noble depot]

You'll need Unity 2018.4.20f1 and the most recent version of VRChat SDK3 (or SDK2, though it isn't getting any content updates), along with some modelling software of some kind (like Blender, which is free) c:
the VRChat documentation might be helpful, too! https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/current-unity-version

Also, do note that you have to be New User rank ingame to upload avatars o:

[stable solar]

my mute toggle bindings aren't working in vr or desktop....any idea?

[light pilot]

#user-support-old

[stable solar]

yeah that'd be great if ya know, people actually looked in that channel more than once a day

[noble depot]

It's 12:10 AM CST currently, which might explain the inactivity

[manic horizon]

my lag is so bad i can barely load into worlds 😔

[vocal shard]

vrchat is being scary

[vocal shard]

I like how i upgrade my PC to a 3080/10850k, and this game still freaking lags like crazy.

Where the fun chats at??

lets get silly

[violet hearth]

fixthe audio

[meager solstice]

i mean anyone would have told u that

[vocal shard]

exactly. 2 days its been happening to me

[calm nacelle]

hi

[feral vector]

Anyone with full body want to get on vr chat and film a few shots with me for a video I'm working on?

[vocal shard]

Nope

[sturdy escarp]

Sup

[gray rune]

Something I've always wondered. Why is the Zzz emoji absent from the Emoji wheel?

[devout island]

they don't wanna see you sleep so they removed the reaction

[ruby needle]

find the model files in the assets and put it into blender.

[devout island]

and then decimate it until you think its enough

[ruby needle]

you should start by removing unneeded part's

for exmaple body mesh under part's that are covered anyway

Don't forget thing's like your head.
Don't need the backside of your head if it's covered with hair anyway.

open the asset folder in explorer and then you will find the model file

usually that's a .fbx

[heavy drift]

When u moderate ur lgbtq world and get called a honphobic cuz i kicked someone going after em and they are wearing same avatar as me 🤣 🤣

[unborn nacelle]

honphobic

hon hon baguette

[heavy drift]

I cant spell sorry 🤣

[wanton fractal]

I just randomly got logged out while in game what

[unborn nacelle]

has anyone else been having issues with vrchat steam not picking up oculus controllers?

[carmine zephyr]

dumb question: how do I find out which world is the current tutorial world being used for new users? I'm doing a project which requires me to review VR tutorials

[slate seal]

@unborn nacelle i tend to have that at times, just restarting VR helps, so close SteamVR and Oculus and start again, alternatively if that doesn't work either, try replugging your headset

[unborn nacelle]

using virtual desktop to stream to steamVR so no cord there- also i've reinstalled the game about 4 times tonight already and I've completely removed the vrchat folders from appdata and local folders etc and tried fresh reinstalls with no result.

[slate seal]

ah, you're using a quest?

[unborn nacelle]

quest 2, i don't use native quest apps i only stream to steamvr because of the limitations and I have a good pc to run better games.

[carmine zephyr]

I can take a look myself to see if anything is going on and confirm if this is an issue, though if it is, it may be either due to Steam or VD

[unborn nacelle]

i was suspecting something having to do with the new quest updates and whatnot because I never had this issue until tonight.

I guess I'll wait and see if anyone has a solution though.

[slate seal]

kinda annoying that Oculus stuff tends to be on the buggy side

[unborn nacelle]

even more annoying the fact that facebook wackyness means you have to have a lot of workaround methods

[slate seal]

and due to covid i can't pick up my Index yet even though it's just sitting around, waiting to be picked up

[unborn nacelle]

damn...

[carmine zephyr]

I have both, so I can validate either case

[unborn nacelle]

use VD?

[carmine zephyr]

I can use VD or a link cable on the Quest, or I can use my Index

I'll test VD to check if there are any issues

[unborn nacelle]

alright swag thanks

[carmine zephyr]

just taking notes on my project and finding interesting things regarding the latest VRC tutorial and at least how in desktop mode, it doesn't seem to mention a few controls, but I feel repeating it in VR will answer some of those questions

[unborn nacelle]

im able to launch vrchat normally with no issue on pc.. it only detects my headset and nothing else though being the problem.

[slate seal]

to me the VRC tutorial feels like: "Here's you, here's some avatars, pick one, here's some controls, go trough these portals, good luck"

[unborn nacelle]

"grab an avatar and go nuts"

vrchat introducing new players like they are sea turtles being born...

[carmine zephyr]

true, but in the past, the tutorial seemed to teach a bit more to help people who may have just gotten their first headset understand hwo to move and walk around. The earlier one I recall had a cylindar in the middle of the room, which meant users had to learn how to turn in order to get around it

[unborn nacelle]

looking at all the vrchat worlds for the first time is pretty overwhelming

[carmine zephyr]

currently, it places you in front of a mirror, then you just hold forward. At least in desktop mode. In that, it does imply how to look around, but it doesn't imply how to jump or run, though that may be due to limits as a new user would most likely be in Holoport (3P) movement by default, which wouldn't have that

[vocal shard]

can someone talk for a second... i need help about uploading avatars

[carmine zephyr]

may want to poke #avatar-general or #avatars-2-general for more dedicated assistance

[slate seal]

there's also some things i would have loved that the tutorial would have told me

like safety settings

[carmine zephyr]

yeah... I have a faint memory the older one did that as well at the end

[unborn nacelle]

safety settings is only shown in the loading screen, i didnt know how to use it before i just looked around settings on my own and then i still had to check boxes and figure it out after i found it

[carmine zephyr]

granted, the loading screens DO show various things, but something like that.... may be the difference with an initial experience being good or trolled into leaving

[slate seal]

didn't know what the 200 mb and very poor limit meant, only a few days ago i figured out that it refers to avarar file size and optimisation

[abstract sleet]

Anyone wanna join a crab rave in vrchat

[unborn nacelle]

i just use loading screen to tell which way im facing when im spinning in my chair waiting for the worlds to load...

[abstract sleet]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSJ6Hu2De/

[carmine zephyr]

currently in VD right now with SteamVR as the version in operation, no issues

no issues that I can see with seeing the controllers, and VRChat seems to be running okay

[unborn nacelle]

huh

everything but vrchat is working for me that's so fricken weird

cant figure this out...

[unborn nacelle]

do you use any overlay apps?

[carmine zephyr]

XSOverlay and YUR

[unborn nacelle]

last time i played i was using OVR toolkit

[carmine zephyr]

yeah, I stopped jsing that. Too unstable

[unborn nacelle]

is XS any different?

i like OVR’s wrist menu and customizability but the performance sucks ass

[carmine zephyr]

it's basically OVR but runs better

[slate seal]

does it also have a playspace mover?

[carmine zephyr]

no. It just focuses on overlays and nothing else. For playspace moving, I just use advanced OpenVR settings

[unborn nacelle]

need to buy xs now

just knowing it runs better is enough of a selling point

[carmine zephyr]

at the very least, you can refund it if it isn't working the way you hoped it would. I wish I had done that with OVRDrop

[unborn nacelle]

i think i have too many hours in it at this point

[lapis herald]

Idk why but for some reason i got into vr chat lately, um hey then...? 😋

[unborn nacelle]

i play vrchat to be around real people

without going outside

[lapis herald]

Yeah, i can understand that

Reality is cruel

[unborn nacelle]

one more question for xs

are the binds any different than OVR?

[carmine zephyr]

as far as I'm aware, no. I ahven't used OVR in a long enough time to remember, but I usually use the manual pull up on the wrist tool

[unborn nacelle]

the uh

ovr toolkit is double press bottom trigger

[carmine zephyr]

I mostly use my Index. On that, it's doulbe tap B, so I'd assume the same on Oculus

[unborn nacelle]

swag

oh just watching the trailer for xs overlay on steam rn

im sold already

[carmine zephyr]

but you can also pull it up by pointing the one controller at the wrist overlay and activate it that way

you can also just turn that off if needed

[unborn nacelle]

even just changing my spotify song in ovr is a pain lol

[carmine zephyr]

oh media controls? when I use it, it just works fine

[unborn nacelle]

i wonder if there's any chance for refund...

59.8 hours in ovr toolkit...

so funny

<@&397642795457970181> do the funny

[carmine zephyr]

most unlikely at that point

a refund for any title that is requested within 14 days of purchase and has been played for less than 2 hours - this includes online, offline and shared library playtime. Even if you fall outside of the refund rules we've described, you can submit a request and we'll take a look at it.

[unborn nacelle]

ive gotten +2hr refunds

not sure about 14 days

[umbral reef]

Not sure how blind you are but rule 3 kekw

[unborn nacelle]

deliberately pasted the same edgy shit in 2 channels

[umbral reef]

But the chatmods will explain it to ya with the bot in like 10 minutes once they realize they got pinged

[unborn nacelle]

lol..

time to try xs now..

rule 3 "This includes sexual content, violent content, that kind of thing"

mfs deal with furries, they know what they're doing.

...probably

[umbral reef]

Gonna enjoy seeing him snapped into the shadowrealm 👀

[unborn nacelle]

thats all he sees as sexual lol...

this child

[carmine zephyr]

as someone who was an SEA (Support and Engagement Associate), yeah... that totally was nfsw and easily fits within the context of the third rule.
You literally used the phrase 'sexual intercourse' as the primary topic of the statement. That easily fits within the context.
Either way, just rando "I want attention" stuff that... I've seen so many times, I wish I was still being paid to deal with it

[unborn nacelle]

the gods wrath

[umbral reef]

Into the shadowrealm he went Pogs

[unborn nacelle]

mods get +1 brownie points from me

@carmine zephyr my god thank you

this is so much better lmao

[carmine zephyr]

you're welcome

[unborn nacelle]

what is very odd is the fact that i can launch vrchat but overlay still picks up my controller but not vrchat

so it's something on the other end i guess

[carmine zephyr]

yeah, sounds like it'd then be a VRChat related issue.
Also, XSOverlay had a major update done a few days ago, and has quite a few backend stuff that can be poked.

[unborn nacelle]

kinda sad i just wont be able to play for now

i mean i can but pc or oculus only

[carmine zephyr]

yeah. I'm not sure why it's acting like that. Wonder at what level are the issues occuring on. Try running another VR title just to see if things get passed along there as well. If it doesn't, it's SteamVR/VD (possibly driver issues?). If it does, then it's definately VRChat

[unborn nacelle]

i was playing boneworks all morning no issue...

[sharp rose]

it could also be,
vr gremlins

[vocal shard]

I love how fast my oculus charges

[unborn nacelle]

the wht

[unborn nacelle]

vr gremlin?

spooky..

[sharp rose]

i dont know tech support btw

everything about our service is magic to me

[vocal shard]

I let it charge for an hour and it went from 0% to 96%

[sharp rose]

wizards did it

[carmine zephyr]

OOH! XSOverlay now has a notification API... I could make a simple app to act as a better version of the SteamVR Knock function

[unborn nacelle]

the what whta

[carmine zephyr]

SteamVR has a feature that lets other people hit a butotn to send a notification to your in VR that they need your attention. The problem is I found no way to automate it starting up nor an easy way to pass the F1 key press to it.

with this new notification API, I could actually add one myself. Though I guess I could have learned how to do toast notifications as well... eh

[sharp rose]

so basically what youre saying is

wizardry

cue the shia lebeouf "magic" gif

[carmine zephyr]

more or less. I guess I could add it to my projects list, alongside the full body tracking suit, bluetooth quick key belt (just a bluetooth keyboard shortcut pad for when in VR)

and eventually finishing my site... and server configs... ugh, I have too many projects

[unborn nacelle]

hope there is something magically fixed when i wake up, good night all

still dont know what the problem with my vrchat is lol

[winged quartz]

are the vrchat api servers down?

[dark orchid]

API authorize server has some errors

server working but still 403 error

[leaden finch]

Why do i get a 403 when i try to log in?

Also sometimes i get like a MASSIVE 20 sec lagspike.. Even when alone..

[rare prairie]

bug report / question / wtf: in public just b club, vibing with a few people for ~5-10 mins, when suddenly, screen fades out - fades in, everyone in the instance is pulled into the entrance of the room; and in most recent versions, starts doing an endless fall, basically breaking any chill & vibes we might had

is this a crasher, bugchat giving up on storing people's location, or map being broken?

[leaden finch]

api or client

[restive oar]

ye thats a mod client

[outer spindle]

I got a similar bug earlier today in a public lobby. I went into the club and suddenly everyones screen went black and we were all teleported into one of the penthouse rooms

[rare prairie]

@restive oar anything we can do about it?

[restive oar]

ye find out who isnt being pulled to the area and report them

[rare prairie]

@restive oar the modder isn't being pulled in?

[restive oar]

well it depends what client they have some you can tp people accept you and then there is a button that tps everyone to the spawn area

[rare prairie]

so, if, hypothetically, one would to have a mod that leaves the menu enabled while in freefall, then when encountering this crasher, respawn, and wait to see who isn't leaving the instance / who else is still in the room, one could, potentially, report them?

[restive oar]

eh it depends on the person sadly i dont think there is a moderator on that can help you so if i was you i would change lobby

[rare prairie]

oh, mostly thinking what to do next time

on that note, it would be super useful to have publics with "specific trust level or above" designation (ie user or above, or known or above)

(along with being able to share avis to one specific person only; and having status set on a per-group basis -ie "busy for everyone, green for vips")

[restive oar]

it would be cool if you could give people a personal trust level so if you trusted them you could go on there account and give them a trust role

[umbral reef]

You kinda-ish can, you can set what you allow them to show manually

[candid barn]

Hello all 🙂

[restive oar]

shhhhhh lol

jk

[reef umbra]

Does anyone here have the problem with VRC+ where they get a steam pop up that says "Your purchase failed to process" but the card information in steam is correct and other transactions go through? When I go to the VRC+ tab in my menu, it pops up with a window on my desktop, and the ONLY option it gives me is to cancel my account, when I hit EDIT it is the only option... Anyone getting this?

SCREEN SHOT : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WPCx1CiZthIkzdeTemRSv2LxEzV9RsgU/view?usp=sharing

[restive oar]

whats the google drive ?

[reef umbra]

a link to the screen cap of the issue

[restive oar]

ok :3

[reef umbra]

id have posted a pic but they've disabled that for obvious memer reasons lol.
I just want to know what to do, i don't want to cancel my account to re-subscribe, or risk it not working

[velvet lichen]

If I was to ask someone make a avatar for me where would should I go to ask that?

[fierce phoenix]

Hi

[velvet lichen]

Hello

[fierce phoenix]

Can Someone Tell me The Size Of vR CHAT? I Wanna Download It

[reef umbra]

I would assume the Avatar-Requests channel

[velvet lichen]

Your right I guess I scrolled right pass it

[vocal shard]

Thats not always the case if there is way to disable chairs it prevents that from happening.

It's worked for me at least

[reef umbra]

ram avatar?

[carmine zephyr]

eh... 8 gigs can be enough to get by if you don't leave too many browser tabs open

[reef umbra]

newegg.com ususally has good deals on ram

[unreal verge]

That prevents it? Yeah i always disable chairs in every world.

[velvet lichen]

So I have a quest 2 and was wondering if I connect it to my laptop would it run on the laptop or the oculus. I am asking because my laptop is a piece of shit and I can barely run any games on it

[green sail]

i need a picture of an anime catgirl sitting in alone in white space using a laptop, could anyone help out? i dont play vrchat, would be appreciated if someone could advise

[unreal verge]

Yep I'm speaking from experience

That shit gets full extremely fast

[reef umbra]

If you have a quest2, it should be ...okay, i mean it will run on a quest2, and if you use the link cable, it should be a bit better, i dunno though honestly, i think it will run on the quest2 without it just fine, but you wont see like, half of vrchat

[unique silo]

i'm just curious how many hours do you need before you can upload custom avatars?

[unreal verge]

And if you don't have much VRAM you need even more RAM to compensate for it

[green sail]

is for an indie magazine, could pay a few coins for the effort

[carmine zephyr]

depends on how often you let the GC do its job. Granted, I started with 16, and now have 64 and an 2080 so... shrugs

[reef umbra]

it goes by interaction and stuff, like, its not just hours, it varies between people, some people i know have been on for months and dont have the ability, some only a week and a half and they're up there.

[unique silo]

i have a synth avatar ready to be uploaded but i need to wait until i'm verfied which i'm confused about

[velvet lichen]

It runs on the quest 2 fine its just I wanted to be able to see the pc avatars and have access to the stuff you don’t normally with the quest 2

[carmine zephyr]

it varies.
From what I can tell, there are a few factors:

• How often you interact with worlds
• How many worlds you've explored
• How many people you've run into
• How many friends you have

However, what I've noticed also is that if you use a VR headset, the ranking speed seems to be much heavily improved.

[reef umbra]

hmm, @velvet lichen i am not sure if simply plugging the link cable in will "unlock" that ability or not, could always give it a go i guess

[carmine zephyr]

Any VR headset seems to work.

[velvet lichen]

The problem is if it does run off the laptop its so shitty it might die for good

None of the specs on my laptop meet the requirements for even Minecraft

Everything falls short

[reef umbra]

oof

[velvet lichen]

I got the laptop in 2016 for like 125$

[vocal shard]

hello

what are you doing today guys

?

[glass goblet]

hello there

[reef umbra]

if you live near NewHampshire @velvet lichen I would give you an entire tote of those laptops, or ram, i got them from the state house when they upgraded and offloaded all their laptops. fff I don't think the ram would work in yours though i have no idea, these are about the same age though

i had like 225 laptops on a pallet

[velvet lichen]

Nope other side of the states. I live in Oregon

[reef umbra]

been giving them away every chance i get lol

[glass goblet]

probably nothing how about u

[vapid shard]

Yo can I get some help

[vocal shard]

playng games

wanna join

[glass goblet]

yee why not

[vocal shard]

we will be good team

[velvet lichen]

Depends on how old you are

[vocal shard]

look at this song

https://youtu.be/KnlHxVra43g

[velvet lichen]

You could do some manual labor type stuff and mow lawns that type of stuff

Yea thats the problem

[rare prairie]

idle thought while unity compiles: I ponder if vrchat's hookup graph could be traced by looking at dynamicpenetrationsystem being added to models 🙂

[velvet lichen]

You could always go dance on the street corner

[vocal shard]

how do you process a payment through steam? i had my old card still entered

[slate seal]

well there's 2 main ways

you pay on checkout with whichever payment option you've attached to steam, or, if you want to get VRC+ for example, you need to charge your steam account with some money using those payment methods

so if your old card still has money, it should work

otherwise you can change it under account settings

[amber jewel]

Anyone here having a glitch involving favoriting and unfavoriting avatars

[viscid seal]

try again a little later

might just be the menu being slow to update

[amber jewel]

K

[vocal shard]

I wonder if the last patch will fix my social instead of my invite/join being grey for my group favorites.

Use the optimized demo world.

[vocal shard]

your good fs

[short zealot]

Yeah you’ll be fine

[vocal shard]

2060 I assume you meant

[short zealot]

Me with my 1050ti 👁️👄👁️

[vocal shard]

imagine not playing on the lowest res 24/7

[noble depot]

make sure that it's the same speed and form factor as your current RAM o:

[short zealot]

I have 2 sticks of 4g ...I killed my 2 sticks of 8 playing ark

[carmine egret]

Can you somehow take 8K or similar quality screenshots ? 🤔

[vocal shard]

my first gaming gpu bought in 2017

honestly, worst brand new gpu i ever bought

4k is the highest native

[carmine egret]

I want 8K/16K

[vocal shard]

why do you want high res?

way too overkill and unnecessary.

Not sure if there is a way to do that without modding f

[carmine egret]

I am trying to take a high quality pic for later editing

[vocal shard]

4K is enough

you can just AI upscaling

the config file might have its own entry pertaining screenshots but I highly doubt it

im sure you already parsed through that

[carmine egret]

I mean camera*

VR Camera

[vocal shard]

oh

still though highly doubt

[carmine egret]

{
    "camera_res_height": 2160,
    "camera_res_width": 3840,
    "disableRichPresence": true
}

doubt I can just smash higher values there

Will it work ?

ah

[vocal shard]

might as well try

crank those numbers to astronomically high bounds

and probably freeze for minutes to take a single picture

[foggy nest]

anyone trynna play?

[noble depot]

nonono

those aren't bounds, setting 9999x9999 would take a 9999x9999 screenshot

[carmine egret]

nope

Tried15360 × 8640

but got 3840x2160

[noble depot]

would probably recommend something like BigJPG or a similar AI to upscale it then? o:

[shrewd edge]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/configuration-file documents the minimum and maximum size

[quartz cobalt]

anyone down to play vrc? and be a latex with meh? or just hangout or something idk am just bored out of my mind

[fallow lotus]

ngl I’d love to see an async screenshot function added (it’s possible because a mod has done it in the past) it’d allow you to crank screenshot resolution up to 16k and not freeze the game from it

And there is a reason to take 16K and it’s all about those little details

[steel dagger]

My cat has started a trend where he sits down right next to me and starts fucking licking his nuts furiously

Furiously to the point where you can hear him

Like bro its wet and slobbery

And the fact he's licking something that isnt even there anymore.

[vocal shard]

why

[winter carbon]

For some reason my mic don't work on vr chat it works on rec room

[vocal shard]

if its a quest 1 then its just a bug they are gonna be fixing soon

should be a bindings button in the top right of one of the tabs I believe controls

[timid mulch]

i cant unfavourite outfitsd it just stays

sob

[unborn valley]

anyone looking to play?

[dark shore]

anyone have any idea how to set up haptics? Im kinda lost

[noble depot]

There's a shader that some avatars use that work with BHaptics and such afaik, though note that modifying the VRChat game client in any way is against TOS and bannable
i.e shader method's fine, injecting/dropping anything into the game's files isn't

[vocal shard]

Anyone wanna join a cult where we are just large witty

[dark shore]

it use to be supported but isnt now i dont know why

[vocal shard]

Anyone wanna do an FNF roleplay?

[dark shore]

i have an avatar that is suppose to link to the VRC haptics softare to do that shader method but i can seem to get it to work

[twin shale]

they featured a modification for a client before and that was against TOS i think they spoke to VRChat and decided to take it off because of mods not being allowed to be used

[vocal shard]

I am ignored

[ruby needle]

It's likely more that no one want's to FNF roleplay

[vocal shard]

😦

[dark shore]

i see, thanks. is anyone avalible to jump in a call and help me out whit the shader method?

[peak slate]

How much should I spend on tracking?

[regal furnace]

what?

[icy blade]

probably money

[regal furnace]

like full body or what?

[peak slate]

Full body

[icy blade]

you should spend as much as you have money for it xD

[regal furnace]

i paid 390€ for mine, so around that for the best of the best probably

[icy blade]

htc vive tracker cost about 100 each

[peak slate]

Got an index and thought it came with it

[regal furnace]

Index