vrchat-general-2

[vocal shard]

roam black cats im sure you will find a swarm of them

[sharp saddle]

^

I been seeing a lot of Mickey boars.

[vocal shard]

especially around now its starting to be time where actual 7 year olds get off school

How do I find them

[sharp saddle]

Visiting public worlds.

[vocal shard]

^

Which ones

Names?

[sharp saddle]

Black Cat.

[vocal shard]

Oh I’ve been in there all day not a single one for quest at least

[sharp saddle]

Then it might be PC-only then.

[vocal shard]

is it for quest tho?

Oh yeah your boned pretty sure its PC only

i highly doubt

well the one I copied before

[sharp saddle]

Meme avatar creators don't care much for Questies.

[vocal shard]

tfw dem questers demand having everything

Well I saw someone in b club with it he didn’t let me clone I tried asking he didn’t let me

[sharp saddle]

That's when you do "View avatar author".

[vocal shard]

Oh

[vocal shard]

I forgot about that feature

might have an avatar world and you might get it from there

Recommendations?

[vocal shard]

try again

What

yeah try finding it around

error network disconnected

or type in world search avatar and meme

might yield results

Oh when u type in avatar on worlds it only pulls up anime

But I haven’t tried meme imma try that

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[robust gorge]

can someone inform me something? it's a silly problem but i can't put the vr chat application in full screen, i don't find any option to do so

[ruby needle]

Use the general key combo

Alt + Enter

This works on a magnitude of applications

[robust gorge]

ok ty for the help

[novel panther]

who else plays without vr

and just kbm

[vocal shard]

why does vrc keep resetting my status

i add a status and it gets removed on new instance

is anyones game just inst closing in joining some worlds

as in crashing?

yes. sometimes

[crimson bridge]

Okay, someone once told me to "scroll up" to see why my status keeps going offline when I am clearly online and in-game, but that lead me to more questions than answers. Such as "how far must I scroll?"

[modest warren]

is anybody else getting unusual client behavior errors?? or know what might be causing them?

if it helps, i started getting audio bugs earlier too. world sound isn't working.

[devout island]

Game is having a stroke like usual

[tardy rivet]

Sorry nimbo for ghost ping, I miss clicked

[devout island]

No problem

[harsh flax]

IS there a issue with the SDK2 atm im trying to build my world but it keeps sending me to the home world

[tardy rivet]

What do you mean by "It keeps sending me to the home world ?" When you test your world before publish you get teleported in your home world ?

Instead of being in the world you are creating ?

[harsh flax]

yeah. It completes the loading then it does the loading again 3 times

[frail light]

Hi

Hello

[tardy rivet]

In unity, did you create a new project for your world or you took the same one and just removed everything ?

[harsh flax]

new project

[tardy rivet]

Okay, have you tried to remove your personal home and tested again ?

I mean, try to remove your personal home in game, to set it as default vrchat home and get back to Unity and test your world

[frail light]

Hello

[devout island]

You forgot to post in public lobby

[tardy rivet]

Hello !

[frail light]

how are you?

[tardy rivet]

I'm doing pretty good actually, doing my best to help people out. What about you?

[frail light]

good, i'm fine

[maiden carbon]

Heyo guys, is there actually some psychologists lobby or like talking lobby ?

[pastel crag]

Yes

[maiden carbon]

Could u give me the name of à room pls ?

[devout island]

Did you try searching for one

[maiden carbon]

I just don't know any things to type in game to find a room for it, sry though i'm New idk how it works

[devout island]

In the pause menu, in the rooms section you can search for one

[maiden carbon]

Alright thanks

[novel cave]

Dose Anybody want to play VR chat

[devout island]

Me but I don't have a good pc sorry

[umbral sentinel]

Random Question, why doesn't VRChat Quest support Audio Sources?

[vocal shard]

dont know

ye performance issues im guessing

[frosty veldt]

Audio sources are CPU intensive, not allowing them is almost 100% a performance issue

[vocal shard]

isnt quest basically a phone

[devout island]

Yeah

[vocal shard]

they used to have it

anyone know how to fix quest mic?

where it sounds like a can

[elfin zealot]

can someone please help me

i cant open vrchat

i signed into my account

and it said sagning in as Whimsii

then it was just the loading music

for like 45 seconds then said my connection to vrchat has timed out

does anyone know why

[tardy rivet]

You probably have Internet issues

Check if you aren't downloading in back ground

It can often happen if you enabled auto-updating in Steam

[grim hemlock]

Vrchat needs to fix the invites

[tardy rivet]

what do you mean ?

[grim hemlock]

i invited my gf and she did not get any invites from me but i got an invite from her so idk whats up with that

[brave compass]

eyo dudes is Fullbody still broke?

[grim hemlock]

No

[brave compass]

They fixed it??

[umbral reef]

It should be fixed, if it aint follow the steps here https://discordapp.com/channels/189511567539306508/189511567539306508/824077175057023006

[grim hemlock]

You cant have mods

[brave compass]

Sweet thanks man!

Well duh

[grim hemlock]

yeah

[tardy rivet]

Weird. Try to restart your game... Live server is doing good so It has to be a simple bug which happened for some reasons

[grim hemlock]

Like my pc

i close my game and she still didnt get any so i had to get on my quest to join her on a quest world only

[tardy rivet]

Let me check the issue on game

[grim hemlock]

ok

[analog roost]

Who on

[tardy rivet]

Where you in your own home ? Or the world you were doesn't matter

[grim hemlock]

where i was trying to invite her?

[tardy rivet]

Yes

[grim hemlock]

Galaxy world i think it was called

[tardy rivet]

Okay, give me a minute

[grim hemlock]

i can check

im not right now

[tardy rivet]

I checked, and everything looks good

[grim hemlock]

ok it was called Relax in Galaxy

[vocal shard]

@covert chasm so uh, vrchat just bugged on me so hard, the audio bug came back. but it made the world music get really loud, and LITERALLY de activated windows until i restarted my PC so yeah that habbened tup tup

pretty sure vrchat deactivating windows is worthy of a tupper ping

[grim hemlock]

thats what it was called

[tardy rivet]

Ask your girlfriend to check her internet connexion

[vocal shard]

absolutely bizarre

[tardy rivet]

It seems to work good

[grim hemlock]

ill ask her tonight she is not on right now

[vocal shard]

like, a restart made it all fine and windows is now back to being activated but yeah

[tardy rivet]

Hope it will solve the problem

[covert chasm]

While that sounds pretty spooky, that's not within VRChat's capabilities! Something else odd is going on. I'd scan your PC for malware and that sorta thing, and contact our Support team. #vrchat-support

[tardy rivet]

I'll keep searching for solutions, i'll tell you if I find something

[vocal shard]

yeah uh it happened as a result of vrchat absolutely did. could just be a coincidentaly corruption of windows tup tup but, the audio in VRC died on me like the old bug but came back with a force, and then it gave me the windows not activated logo

and i checked the windows activation setting and it was an obscure error code that doesnt exist

there might be a really bad exploit or my windows installation couldve just corrupted coincidentally

[covert chasm]

Unfortunately without knowing what else your PC is running, it is a little hasty to tell a developer that their program did something it is incapable of doing. 😄 Please contact #vrchat-support .

[vocal shard]

but i figured i'd write about it, since yeah, spooky, ill run a virus scan but i did that last week and it was fine so yeah

tuptup im just the messenger of what i saw 🤷‍♂️

you do you man

[bleak quest]

is it just me or does the world's "other instance" never refresh? i kept seeing the same room number unless i exit and reenter the game, it was occasionally refreshed automatically before. not sure if this is the place to ask

[covert chasm]

I believe that you saw what you observed, but it requires further investigation. Again, you definitely should contact support.

[bold atlas]

hey how do i be able to upload avatars because it says im not able to yet on the vrc sdk

[ruby needle]

Play more, basically

[bold atlas]

and how do i get the build controll pannel

[tardy rivet]

What is your rank ?

[bold atlas]

visitor

[vocal shard]

i'll definitely let you know if it happens again, keep your eye out though, it was just a restart fix anyway, very peculiar, in all my years never seen windows ever do that

[tardy rivet]

You need to be New user at least + play on a VrChat account

[covert chasm]

?upload

[shy spoke]

You must obtain at least "New User" Trust Rank in our Trust and Safety system in order to upload content. You can get this by just spending a few hours in VRChat, hop some worlds, and make some friends. Give it some time and you'll be able to upload content in no time.

As an aside, you must have a VRChat account to upload content. That means you can't use a Steam account, Oculus account, or Viveport account to upload content like worlds or avatars.

Source: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/frequently-asked-questions

[vocal shard]

i might just have to reinstall windows, its more likely a corrupt windows since windows does like to do that over time

[bold atlas]

fuck'

[tardy rivet]

Thanks Tupper. Didn't know about this

[vocal shard]

on the off chance it isnt i just slapped you a ping and said what i saw just in case

[covert chasm]

Again, please get your output logs as per the instructions in #vrchat-support and send them to support. If VRChat caused issues, the output logs might indicate that.

[vocal shard]

Output logs alright.

I really should this time usually i dont but yeah that was extra spooky

[bold atlas]

can somone helpm me get new user

[tardy rivet]

Are you playing on a steam account or a VrChat one ?

[ruby needle]

You need to play.
Or alternatively you can get one month of VRC+

[bold atlas]

vr chat

[vocal shard]

heh its funny how you dont recognize me and give the professional face tho its cute

alt account werks

[tardy rivet]

Okay then explore public worlds and make friends

[bold atlas]

ok

[covert chasm]

No, I know who you are, the icon and images you've posted previously are a pretty dead giveaway. 🙂

[bold atlas]

how much friends do you need to make

[bleak quest]

is there a way to manually refresh a world's other instance ? cause keep seeing the same room number even though it has 300 players in it

[tardy rivet]

• Fpaul is right. You can buy VRC+ feature which will help you in increasing your trust rank in game

[ruby needle]

There is no set numbers, neither for time nor for friends.
Just go an play till you get the notification.

Or purchase a month of VRC+ if you cannot wait.

[vocal shard]

based

[tardy rivet]

I always though you had to make friends actually 😅 Thanks for correcting me

[vocal shard]

i thought i was clever and anonymous i guess im too stupid for that

lmao

[ruby needle]

Well, you definitely should, but there is no such thing as a requirement list that says you have too.

[tardy rivet]

How ever, by visiting public worlds you will meet awesome people 😉

[vocal shard]

yeah a very weird named avatar was loaded as the bug happened on the minute it happened

DŽDŽDžDŽDžDžDžDŽDŽDžDžDžDŽDŽDžDžDŽDŽDŽDŽDžDŽDŽDžDžDžDžDžDŽDŽDŽDŽDŽDžDžDžDžDŽDŽDžDžDžDŽDžDžDŽDž interesting avatar name

[ruby needle]

That's not a specific avatar name.

[vocal shard]

ah just noise

[ruby needle]

You can find that "randomness" in many places.

[vocal shard]

yeah nvm then just skimmin to see if the logs show a weirdness

cant find anything dont know enough just gonna slap the logs into the support ticket and forget this happened unless it ever happens again

as much as i dont wanna admit it, its likely a hardware dying issue.

guess ill find out which part is dying on me this week when it fully goes kaput

that sucks

oh well you win some and lose some

[umbral reef]

Odds are also its windows being shitty and just being mean for no reason

[devout island]

Just reinstall windows easy

[vocal shard]

yeah i mean i dont even think vrchat is capable of doing the thing its like physically impossible for it to do that im pretty sure

odds are its just random windows corruption

uploading these logs is taking forever tho

[bold atlas]

yo is vrc down?

[pallid wraith]

just got disc butback in

[bold mantle]

ayoooo vrc died big pog

[vocal shard]

``` logs did get this spammed a

[mortal zealot]

Yeah vrc brokey :(

[bold atlas]

guess its not just me

[vocal shard]

ah guess it was a VRC bug in the end, since this got spammed and my windows got literally deactivated

[devout island]

Reinstall vrc and try again

[vocal shard]

and im having issues even uploading my logs in this support ticket

it is 100 MB log file though to be fair

[devout island]

Ok that is definitely weird

[vocal shard]

yeah i guess i was one of the first victims because it gave me the old audio bug, but made the world audio really loud, and told me i needed to reactivate windows until i restarted. i was convinced random bug with my system but now that all these guys are saying VRC died, im pretty sure some weird bug habbened

absolutely bizarre regardless

i shoudlve screencapped what the windows activation settings screen shown i regret not

[buoyant lodge]

Might want to convert the log files to a zip file before uploading if they are that big

[vocal shard]

good idea gharlane im drunk and dumb rn

so i forgot compression exist

yep that did the trick

absolutely bizarre

[elfin zealot]

dude i still cant play vrchat

im not banned my internet is fine

i dont understand

[tardy rivet]

What is happening ?

When you launch VrChat

[elfin zealot]

thats the thing

[tardy rivet]

Arf

[elfin zealot]

nothing

it just says logging in as whimsii

then it disapears

then i wait and it says vrchat timed out

[tardy rivet]

Are you playing on PC or VrHeadset / Quest ?

[elfin zealot]

pc vr

[tardy rivet]

Try to do -> Steam -> Library -> VrChat -> Properties -> Repair Game Files

[elfin zealot]

i dont see propertis in the loacl files

hoe do i get to it

[tardy rivet]

Are you in your steam library ?

[elfin zealot]

yes

ohhh

[tardy rivet]

right click VrChat then properties

[elfin zealot]

ok i got it i thought you meant in my local files for vrc

what do i do in properties

[tardy rivet]

Repair game files

[elfin zealot]

how

[tame crown]

Go to the local files section of properties ,and click validate game files

[tardy rivet]

On the left side bar go to Local folders

[elfin zealot]

i dont see validate

i see verify integrity

[tardy rivet]

Yes

It's verify integrity

[elfin zealot]

ok

[tardy rivet]

It may take a while

[elfin zealot]

alr

im doing that rn

its done

now what

[vocal shard]

double checked my temps, thought maybe i just overheated but my temps are lower than normal since im running the a/c in this room now

[elfin zealot]

should i luanch vrc?

[tardy rivet]

Yes; try it

[elfin zealot]

ok

[tardy rivet]

If it still doesn't work, press CTRL+Left Shift + Escape, then go in Process and scroll all the page looking for "VrChat. If you find it do -> Right click -> End task and you'll be good

[storm pine]

Vr chat has banned almost all the aot avatars Dam uu

[tardy rivet]

Windows 10 is bad to manage background applications, sometimes perhaps that windows may consider your background application isn't really in background 🤔

Then you just have to end task and restart the app

[elfin zealot]

i just ddid

still not working

[tardy rivet]

Does it works now ?

[elfin zealot]

no

[tardy rivet]

Oh my..

Give a second for research

Don't be that mean.

[elfin zealot]

sorry thats my girlfriend

shes sus

[tardy rivet]

Okay, then excuse me imo

[elfin zealot]

anyway

[tardy rivet]

I'm part of French community, i'm kinda' used to those people just being mean for no reasons

[elfin zealot]

do you think its cuz im getting 5 for my download speed

0-0

[meager chasm]

🍞

[tardy rivet]

Nop, you can play well with 0.5 in download and 0.05 in upload

[elfin zealot]

dude wtf

why cant i play

[tardy rivet]

A friend plays with that and it has been 2 years now

[gleaming hill]

Anyone else been seeing people in public lobby's go zipping by crazy fast?

[elfin zealot]

dude

[tardy rivet]

Perhaps udon hidden feature on avatar ?

[elfin zealot]

it keeps saying that my connection timed out

wtf

[vocal shard]

check your connection maybe

[elfin zealot]

i did

[tardy rivet]

Hum

Is your computer a prebuild-one

[elfin zealot]

no

[tardy rivet]

Okay, did you try playing other online games ?

Using photon

[elfin zealot]

no

i dont have any other

[tardy rivet]

Okay

Arhhhh all the things I've found keep saying "Update your drivers"

But it's not the problem here

[storm pine]

When ur main avatar you play as in your u tube videos gets banned along with like 20 others 😫

[tardy rivet]

@elfin zealot I didn't ask but did you go on Vrchat.com and reset to default your avatar ?

[elfin zealot]

no

should i?

[tardy rivet]

Try it

[storm pine]

Dam this

[elfin zealot]

ok i did

[spare osprey]

Vrchat face track support when?

[tardy rivet]

try to launch vrchat

[elfin zealot]

it didnt work

ya still dont work

[tardy rivet]

Let's try to clear your cache then

[elfin zealot]

ok

how do i do it

and what will happen

[tardy rivet]

@elfin zealot look in #general-media

[spare osprey]

Wait for real?

[elfin zealot]

nothing there

[spare osprey]

Does it actually support the face track vive addon??

[grave haven]

No, VRChat does currently not support face tracking.

[grave haven]

VIVE incorrectly stated it does on their Twitter, I don't know if that has been addressed yet.

Tupper later confirmed in relation to that tweet that it is incorrect, no such support at this time.

[spare osprey]

I like how the tracker was meant to release today but it only released in the uk.

[grave haven]

But this is normal when new hardware comes out. Very few people actually own this yet, and very little time has been given to developers to implement it. Both software support and user base will most likely slowly trickle through the ecosystem.

[grave haven]

Which tracker, the 3.0 one?

[spare osprey]

No the facial tracker

I want the facial tracker but its not out still.

It was supposed to release in the us but its only available in the uk

[vocal shard]

i mean i dont think leap motion ever became officially supported even though i saw some devs messing around with it in the past so i doubt facial trackings gonna be supported

i dont mind being proven wrong, though

[spare osprey]

If that's the case then they gonna lose another supporter

[vocal shard]

yeah i can totally see it being implemented but i wouldnt bet on it

[grave haven]

Looks like it is available in the EU too. It allows me to add to cart.
https://www.vive.com/eu/accessory/facial-tracker/

[spare osprey]

Yeah

[bold atlas]

how long does it take to become a new user like how much hours do i have to spend

on vr chat

[mental tide]

man i had my first fight in vr chat and got kicked

in my opinion the option to kick people for mrooms should not exist

[tardy rivet]

As FPaul said later, time doesn't matter about your rank. You need to explore worlds, play the game as you'd play any other games and at a moment you will get a notification for your ranking up

[bold atlas]

well google says you need around 12 hours

so idk lol

[tame crown]

google isnt very good tbh

[mental tide]

^

[tardy rivet]

"Google says" 😅 Google isn't a Vrchat mod right ? ^^'

[bold atlas]

nah but its the internet

[tame crown]

I mean neither are you 🤷‍♂️

[tardy rivet]

You have a point

[bold atlas]

lol

[spare osprey]

Someone buy me vive facial tracker

[dim maple]

are you asking so you can upload something

[tame crown]

send me the money and Ill do it

[spare osprey]

Yeah right lmao

I dont trust that at all

[tame crown]

Unless youre trying to ask for free stuff

[spare osprey]

I have an idea

[tardy rivet]

@elfin zealot Is your problem solved ?

[elfin zealot]

Yes

[tardy rivet]

Nice /

[granite bane]

Hey guys i get home in 3 hours who wants to boot up vr chat with me?

[honest forge]

oh god, there is a "brush maker god"

[late void]

i dont think you understood his joke

[rocky blaze]

why does my status keep being removed? (vrchat)

[vague vector]

[rocky blaze]

took you a minute to post that

[vague vector]

Huh

[vocal shard]

wassup bbg

[royal coral]

So I don't know if it's me, but I can't seem to select a private "Quest backup" avatar. Only ones from the public list.

My Quest avatar of choice is well within the "Good" boundaries for performance rank

Ah had to update the SDK

[topaz raven]

for some odd reason in my world, my avatar doesn't want to load, the minute i leave the world im in that i made, and go to my other world, or home, i load, not sure if my game is just being "special" today, but its weird.

[hexed raven]

Henlo frends

[neat ferry]

Is VRchat servers acting up? I can't even download avatars.

My internet is working pretty fine.

[vocal shard]

I'm in a vrchat among us arguement what should I do

[outer lynx]

I wish I knew how to actually upload my own avatar

[next sedge]

Hello there!

[vocal shard]

@next sedge yo

[vocal shard]

unity

God no

VR chat is fucking up

[rancid jewel]

its fine for me

[thorny bloom]

VrChat update is not showing up on Steam

[ionic marlin]

how do I convert my Oculus Quest account into a VRChat account

[thorny bloom]

people are getting into empty world because of this, players are playing on different versions

Problem solved: Steam must be closed and re open in order to the update to show up

[outer lynx]

How long do you generally have to wait for verification on sdk

Sorry for asking on here

[sonic acorn]

How good is ya internet?

[outer lynx]

Great

[sonic acorn]

I wouldn’t know

Just let it do it’s thing

[steep kayak]

I'm curious. Has anyone come up with a virtual school yet where students and teachers can meet in a virtual class room?

[flat girder]

Hi

[rancid jewel]

class in vrchat? oh no.

"hello Aesthetic_OrangeVR can you answer the question on the board"

[flat girder]

Whats the question

[rancid jewel]

this

[flat girder]

Technically that is possible the cheapest head sets ho from 200 to 300 dollars

[rancid jewel]

a student at one points gonna get mad and pull out a crasher avatar lolr

[flat girder]

They would probably limit and lock carting avatars for the world

Certain

[rancid jewel]

how would that work

[steep kayak]

I just thought it would be cool if the kids could teleport to a school, walk thru the front doors, walk down the halls to their classrooms, sit at there desks and the teacher had the ability to write on a chalk board and teach some lessons.

[flat girder]

Lots of math

[north gust]

World and social tab not updating at all ;[

[steep kayak]

Since the lockdown my son has been playing VRchat a lot and it has really helped him. It's been great to socialize with other kids, work on projects together, role play. Use their imaginations. It can be a great education tool

[vocal shard]

Hispanic people be like: hola gringos que pasa pvtos 👊

I'm hispanic btw

Chat is oof

[steep kayak]

I'm guessing a lot of the creators of this VRchart universe are here? Are there any current worlds that could be modified to a school? Anyone else think this might be a good project to work on?

[flat girder]

Well it could be possible to make a school a real one kn vr the time and resources it would take to a get one for every student b rhe teachers and c just rhe entirety of the map would be difficult to create and its just not something I think they will think is worth rhe time resources and money for unless it becomes a super big idea

[final imp]

You have to have a new user role or above to start uploading your own avatars

[vocal shard]

Aaaaaaah

[steep kayak]

Well, I don't see why this could not be marketed and sold. And yes, by the time it all came to fruition the kids may all be back in their real schools. But was curious if we have another major outbreak next season, if this could actually be the future.

[flat girder]

If it where to come to true it would probably be more of a private school where the students have to already have vr but the big issue with that is ro even be allowed to use the cheap head sets by oclus you have to have a Facebook account and old enough to own an account otherwise you have to buy the really expensive 1k or more headsets because Facebook is a Jerk and did things they said they wouldn't do

[honest forge]

whoever said spmething about making a school world... thatd be me

[flat girder]

Well you have someone here who might make it now

[honest forge]

still working on vr college for about 4 months now

[steep kayak]

Wow, sounds great

[steep folio]

Yo

[honest forge]

been making a white board asset, portible mirror, a thing that lets you call your teacher from accross campus

[steep folio]

I was just playing some among us vr

This one guy was just asking to put creme in my coffee

[steep kayak]

Well my son uses the Oculus quest and VRchat is free on there. But if our tax dollars fund it then cost may not be an issue

[flat girder]

What

[steep folio]

It was weird

[honest forge]

well the idea for my campus was to create an environment youd never have to leave but issue #1 occured. itll def not be quest friendly when it comes out. as it will be cataglrized as a superworld

[flat girder]

Vr chat is free every where its the vr headsets themselves that would cost money unless all the students just use pc or laptop since you don't need vr to acyauly play the game just any computer even bad ones though tou will crash just about every second

[honest forge]

however, i plan to build a smaller set of worlds to eventually accomodate quest users to do their thang

[steep kayak]

So, would it work with Oculus link? Which I know would require a gaming PC, so yeah, the cost goes up.

[honest forge]

my main goal rn is to create a world that allows quest users to watch media like rec room or alt spacevr

[steep folio]

You guys writing paragraphs

[flat girder]

Yes

Very serious vr conversation

[vocal shard]

Remember kids, Always use clients to enhance ur game

[steep folio]

Lol

[flat girder]

No do not use modified clients it will get you banned eventually

[steep kayak]

But it can be very simplified. Just the teacher needing a chalk board and kids can work on real notebooks on their laps. Work on a problem, raise their hand and give the teacher the answer. Nothing too fancy

[honest forge]

quest plus link should equal access to that world (there is a secretportal to it at the parallexure theater)

[vocal shard]

Always use clients

[steep kayak]

I would imagine it would have to be set up with some type of pin or password access to keep strangers from crashing the calss

[honest forge]

so, the way i planed to design this is thered be 2 tabletz per dezk. you have the irl book and then a white board that would paste answers only the main white board in front of the class

and a password and such is def on my list, but the main solution rn would just be privTe instances

[flat girder]

I'll be diving in vr now see ya. I'll be being a harpy

[steep kayak]

You may always have, from this point forward, parents who will not send their kids back to class out of fear of this virus. Even if a school had just one virtual class set up it would be a big help. Especially for disabled children who struggle going to school

[honest forge]

but im close to having an administration set up. so you have teachers who have executive power like teleporting or removi g people, and then student panels

oh yeh definately, most schools now offer online programs for disabled so thatll be a nice chnage

[sonic acorn]

I mean let’s think about it, how much does a laptop for school cost? $500? Now let’s see how much a Quest 2 would cost... it could be a simple substitute and allow students to also easily connect in a somewhat “physical” sense to the teachers and other students. Vr could be a pretty interesting place to learn, but I still believe physical would always be better than vr

[steep kayak]

Sounds awesome, glad to see someone working on this. I hope you can succeed in accomplishing this

[honest forge]

hopefully, probs by may itll be in labs view so people can tour the campus. but theres still a lot to be done

[rancid jewel]

introduced a friend to vrchat today
we watched memes on a video player for half an hour

[honest forge]

i need to finish this 1 final prefab asset: the udon mobile menu. which is basically a world menu that follows youevery where

[steep kayak]

Yes of course. There will always be more benefits to being in the class room. But the current situation really sucks. My son is getting very little from his classes and the teacher is not really teaching anything. It's all IXL and other websites she sends the kids too. It's the lack of in-class, in-person instructions, where the kids can ask questions and talk with the teacher one on one. What they are doing currently simply is not working

[honest forge]

zoom has been the norm but i def understand the inbalance here

@rancid jewel #bottalk message

[rancid jewel]

yes ive seen that

shit was mental

[honest forge]

yeh. ir the other night talkin bout it lol

[wide willow]

where can i go for technical help?

[devout island]

What's the issue

[wide willow]

I can't change my status to online

[devout island]

Tried restarting the game?

[sonic acorn]

^

[wide willow]

multiple times

[stone osprey]

is there a way to report people there was someone going around crashing people game with a avatar she/he crashed me 4 times cause i was getting the nametag

[rancid vessel]

Got a question for anybody that would know. I'm in a world where it says a person is here but they don't show up on the social menu or in the world for me at all. What's happening here? Its the Murder 4 game world.

[late mirage]

Someone told me that when this happens, they likely crashed

You may have to swap worlds or leave completely reload vrc for it to show what is actually happening, but that's just a guess

[wind zealot]

Shift + Escape and then you go looking around

[late mirage]

I had an interesting issue yesterday, I went to use a video player with a YouTube link and my friends could see it, but for me, it said "failed to load video" for roughly two minutes and then finally loaded. Curious as to if anyone else had this issue

[wind zealot]

YouTube. dl being a bitch

[late mirage]

Yeah, tried doing a fix for that, didn't work. Perhaps I did something wrong, but oh well, it'll work eventually

[foggy bear]

Heyy all

[rancid jewel]

hello

[flat radish]

What vr headset should I use for vrchat?

[wind zealot]

it depends

[rancid jewel]

depends on budget

[devout island]

If low on money go for quest 2

Well its not cheap exactly but it aint index level expensive

[upbeat knot]

anyone else getting loaded into empty worlds trying to join friends?

[rose flame]

i recommend the quest 2

[pliant moss]

So how does one communicate without VR or a mic...

[magic wyvern]

Agreed. Worth the price.

[devout island]

Just nod your head

[vocal shard]

Dad you dumbass, these guys are serious!

[ivory hollow]

im getting timed out but my internet is fine otherwise, anyone else having issues

[rose flame]

ive been buggin a lil but thats probably because of avatars but other than that my games been running fine

[elfin current]

Anyone know where I could get some sort of transparent Chara (undertale) avatar?

Not asking for a specific made one, just if there is one deep in the depths of vrchat

[vocal shard]

I got an Adult Chara with customizable bust and hip size.

are toggles broken?

[gray rune]

I'm getting that issue too.

[clever mirage]

Is force cloning preventable?

[wind zealot]

only on private avatars

even then some of them can just download and reupload that avatar

the only solution is: don't use fancy avatars

[clever mirage]

Cause even with avatar cloning off, people say its a mod that you use to force clone, which is hella annoying when the avatar is custom made

[wind zealot]

yep

it is very annoying, i just told you the things you need to know

[magic hill]

Client users are worse than mod users, they can rip the avatars while the others can only force clone public ones.

[vocal shard]

I'm glad that i never ended up making avatars.. it was the right move. lol

[wind zealot]

i might be off, but aren't they all just mods? like they get yeeted into the program, which means that it's a modified client, because making a client of your own would just be a waste of time with each update?

[vocal shard]

There's another way they are doing it and no matter the update to vrc it cannot be prevented.. for every fix in life there's going to be someone that creates a backdoor.

[magic hill]

clients are paid addons or 3rd party tools that allow extremely prohibited acts such as preventing you from being kicked from worlds, kick people from instances even if you aren't the owner of the lobby and such.

[wind zealot]

yeah, that's what i meant

[vocal shard]

Actually i can think of one way to prevent some of it..

[wind zealot]

the mods/plugins get injected into the application and do whatever they are made to do, they are not separate Executables that replace VRChat executable, they are dynamic link libraries (probably with .json configs) that get injected into the original VRChat via some injector, right?

[magic hill]

Mods can be called addons that sometimes add QoLs that makes VRC better, but some of them have dangerous acts such as passthrough walls(Not playspace) or force clone avatars, these have rules that tell you that you can get banned if you use, so they are not responsible if you get banned using them.

[vocal shard]

There was an package someone made for unity a few years ago, it more than likely still exists or someone made a new one as the story goes, but the whole intent of it was to prevent ripping from going on as it encrypts the package so that when they attempt to rip they get nothing back but garbage.

[magic hill]

Sadly, I can confirm no such thing works still.

maybe in the past, before I start playing.

[wind zealot]

huh

that's a nice one

[vocal shard]

Yeah i have been here since day zero.. but what im referring to is an addon that was made to stop people from copyrighting content which could be used on any package.. that was only about 4 years ago give or take.. i can more than likely see if i can find it..

[earnest badge]

Can people with a role that has the administrator permission see the audit log despite it being turned off for their role

[wind zealot]

audit log permission > other permissions

[magic hill]

There are mods that add extra safety and beats 99% of crasher avatars, hide specific avatars that auto hides anyone using it, and prevent laggy avatars from harming you, but they still be considered bannable since it modifies game files. :<

[wind zealot]

ooh i want that ngl

[magic hill]

IT IS too strong for lame crashers, but due to it modifies game files, it is still bannable if you got reported enough times or publicly said that you use it.

[wind zealot]

yeah i guess

but mods by themselves are supposed to make your game better

like noclip is just desktop playspace mover lol

but yeah i get the point

[vocal shard]

Impulse 101

[uncut trail]

friendlist showing friends are online

but they are not still bugged

[hard robin]

The vive facial tracker dropped I wonder if VRC will add support soon for it and maybe support for eye tracking too?

[vocal shard]

no

[regal furnace]

eye tracking is more likely to be supported natively than face tracking if you ask me

they both still take quite a bit of CPU power to run

[vocal shard]

some 20 year old asked me for nu3ds im legit only 13

how can i report someone

[regal furnace]

report them

#moderation-reports for ingame stuff, ping an active chat mod for discord stuff

[vocal shard]

can they like

check my logs cuz idk the username

[regal furnace]

there are logs, yes, but it doesnt show what someone said

[vocal shard]

oh fuck

[regal furnace]

it does show however their avatar id, and if you remember what their avatar looks like you can maybe get back to the username via that

but then again, if you dont have actual proof, there isnt much you can do about it

block them and move on is probably the best thing you can do at this point

[magic hill]

Ignore such people, harassment is everywhere, don't talk to them and block them, if in this discord server, you can report an active mod to view what's happening and ban them.

[vocal shard]

Lol I’m wondering the same thing

[magic hill]

I've heard a lot of people rarely really look into avatar's eyes, that'll feel a bit awkward if VRC allow that. x)

[agile needle]

There's a post on the canny board for facial tracker support you should upvote if you want them to notice

[regal furnace]

the canny rarely gets stuff implemented whats asked there. the 3 top voted posts are all 3 years old by now yet not implemented or even in the talks

[magic hill]

idk, I'm still safe from the mistake bans or bans myself. UwU

[vestal charm]

Is there anyone in the VRChat team who is responsible for WMR development? I'd like to help a little by suggesting changes to the default binding. Its flawed and lacks basic features, and I have a binding that fixes all the issues.

[vocal shard]

hello there can i have a question?

[tardy rivet]

Hello, sure

[vocal shard]

can you allowed me to share a pic? bc i have some problem i Can't upload my avatar in vrc and idk why

[tardy rivet]

go to #general-media to send pics

[magic hill]

There is #avatar-help

[lilac swan]

Put your suggestions in a post here https://feedback.vrchat.com/ if you want the VRchat team to get their eyes on whatever you're suggesting

[regal furnace]

dont expect your ideas to be seen though

https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/loading-error-on-worlds-and-avatars-randomly
cough cough October cough cough

and yes this bug is still in the game, despite tons of users reporting it and even me spending 3 months with support

[umbral reef]

They do see them, they just dont respond, react or implementnt them right away

[vestal charm]

That's why I didn't go in there. It's not even worth the time, its just a 5 minutes fix. I already fixed the binding by making my own, but I want to make my changes to be the default's.
VRChat introduced WMR culling issue and they still haven't fixed it. its been almost a year.

https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/wmr-far-clipping-plane-bug

[umbral reef]

Same that people think that more votes means they care more when they still internally judge if its important or not
And not based of likes :c

[vestal charm]

WMR users are still second class VR users for some reason.

[regal furnace]

the loading bug is still very much present and i dont think someone cares about it. I was on patrol yesterday and had to restart like 8 times within 2 hours just because of this bug

[regal furnace]

and no they are not. its just that it is really hard to figure out how to make expressions on limited buttons and sensors

[vestal charm]

The binding issue i mentioned wasn't related to expressions as I didn't have issues with them. Its more about how they implemented Joystick movement, They implemented the movement while completely destroying everything that uses the Joysticks. All Udon games that use the joystick are broken in WMR, that's how flawed it is.

[regal furnace]

oh, didnt know that

but yea, that should be fixed at some point

[odd blaze]

🤔 limited buttons?, my old wmr have more then any of the other controllers, just have to set it up in steam, the pad can be used for many thing and wont interfere with joystick that can move avatar around - 12 buttons on each (?) (been awhile since i used it dont remember excact number)

[lilac swan]

Sounds to me all the more reason to make a official request to have the bindings changed

[odd blaze]

potato tracking on first gen sure 🐌

I used the pad for emotes/lock and change them on fly, that about what i can remember and it wouldnt move your avatar around

[vestal charm]

It's not a bug on VRChat's side, its not even a bug, its just bad SteamVR binding. I don't know if it fits anywhere in the feedback forum.

[odd blaze]

Yeh the default binding is bad, you want to try others or set up your own

[vestal charm]

I have tried contacting Tupper on twitter about it few months ago, I gave him the problem and the full solution, nothing changed.

[lilac swan]

I'd argue it fits in the bug report sections

[vestal charm]

I doubt it's gonna make the fix any more likely, but I will make one anyways.

Just to say "I already reported it on the feedback forum"

[lilac swan]

I don't think the alternative is any better (talking about it on discord, bringing it up to a community manager that probably has millions of people screaming at him at all hours)

[vestal charm]

It seems to me that there is very little if any testing done on WMR. I just want to have one on one talk with whoever is responsible for the bindings to correct this.

Thank you for your input, I will now write a report on it. gonna need to collect my thoughts and data about it.

[lilac swan]

And going through the official channels is the best way of doing so, pretty much always.

[vestal charm]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/vehicles-in-maps-are-no-longer-driveable-for-wmr

This is the problem I mentioned.

Written in October

[lilac swan]

I think the title is pretty weirdly worded. "Udon don't recognize wmr stick input" would be more accurate?

[regal furnace]

https://feedback.vrchat.com/feature-requests/p/hand-colliders
top post, made in 2018, planned for like 2 years now, no update on that yet.
the canny really is a joke most of the time

[lilac swan]

Did you read the blog post when av3 hit? They talked about that briefly...

[regal furnace]

there are a lot of older and good posts on the canny, yet a lot of them are now in limbo

[jovial kestrel]

They can plan to have something, but not have the best way or ability to implement them yet. They have to build up to things they want to do.

Imagine all of the extra other things waiting behind the UI...

[regal furnace]

but having it planned for 2 years? even a lot of users suggested good ideas already on how to implement that

[golden scaffold]

Posting something on the Canny doesn't guarantee a fix, but it does mean that we've almost certainly seen your post about it. There's usually a lot of missing context for why something hasn't been implemented yet. Canny posts are extremely useful for us.

[regal furnace]

then if they are so useful, why let us stumble in the dark with them? it would be really nice if we get a reply about "planned, but scrapped due to reason xyz" or similar

and that nearly game breaking bug that stops loading worlds and avatars is still in the game as well. we are coming close to its anniversary in july guys

i made a canny which is now dead somewhere on the board, i made a support ticked about it which is now mostly dead, i told it here a lot of times already as well

[golden scaffold]

We typically do comment on why some features don't exist yet. Again, there's no way to provide context on every single thing. I know Tupper's mentioned wanting to improve the status of Canny threads when we're able to do things like custom statuses on there.

[cold quiver]

Don't you think its a bit unfair and disingenious of you to say the canny isnt useful as a form of feedback when you have focused entirely on certain ones that did not make it or get implemented, while ignoring all those that did? https://vrchat.canny.io/feature-requests?status=complete

[regal furnace]

then at least give us updates on what things you are working on and stuff. having nearly 0 transparancy is not really nice for a community this large.
and then again, what about the loading bug thats been in the game since july 2020? are there ANY updates on that one? the last thing i heared was that you dont need me anymore for testing stuff out

[strong silo]

i look through the avatar channels and feel envious, HOW THE HECC DOES ONE MAKE AVATARS- I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT AT ALL-

[golden scaffold]

There's different loading bugs, many of which have been fixed and many of which are a work-in-progress. It's usually not a blanket "this example covers all" situation. The team's doing a lot to improve communication so that there's less ambiguity around things, as seen by recent things like the server issues we've been dealing with. Or how we're addressing long-standing community concerns like polygon counts on Quest, etc.

Many different things that we're working on are pretty obvious and constantly mentioned. Wanting more communication beyond that is understandable, though. VRChat just has a lot of things going on, always.

We'd probably honestly spend more time putting together a list of things that we want to fix and improve than actually being able to put the time into just doing them. 😛

So for now, just keep tossing feedback into the Canny and know that it'll be read.

[wind zealot]

I don't believe this person, because they use proper grammar, when talking to non mass media.

[golden scaffold]

hah

I'm in here pretty often and I'm almost always reading what's up, it's interesting to see thoughts and stuff come in

there's also plenty times where people vent about frustrations that many people on the team would agree with you on, lmao

[knotty tapir]

spark the goat

saved me from being e4c9644e2eef

[vestal charm]

I have posted my issue on the feedback forum. I hope it will be fixed quickly, it doesn't take more than 10 minutes to fix it.
https://feedback.vrchat.com/bug-reports/p/wmr-joystick-is-broken-due-to-bad-binding-with-solution

[crisp anvil]

That loading bug though, I look forward to that being fixed, it’s the worst one in the game by far.

[golden scaffold]

I'll make sure it's reviewed, thanks for posting those details

[wind zealot]

also gib emojis .-.

[shrewd edge]

you can use emojis as nitro booster

[knotty tapir]

[gleaming hill]

can confirm

[shrewd edge]

[gleaming hill]

Is there any way to get VRC desktop above 90 FPS? I have a 165 Hz monitor.

It happily goes above that on my Index but not in desktop mode.

[tardy rivet]

i think it's an assumed limit on Desktop

[gleaming hill]

Oh well, still better than 60 lock

[shrewd edge]

--fps=144 as start options

[gleaming hill]

oh, pog. Thanks

[tardy rivet]

Oh, my bad then

[gleaming hill]

144 is definitely close enough. I have Radeon FreeSync too.

[lilac swan]

https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/launch-options
Was just about to link this

[shrewd edge]

144 was an example, set it to 9001 if you want

[gleaming hill]

I'd rather not overload my GPU for no reason lol

I suspect my CPU would bottleneck before it hit that high though

[tardy rivet]

If you do multi tasking you shouldn't go over your monitor's Hz I believe, to not surcharge your GPU

[wind zealot]

do i look like i am made out of money?

[gleaming hill]

Nitro isn't expensive.

[wind zealot]

it is if the most you can afford is bloody spotify premium

i am a student, not Mark Zuckerberg

[gleaming hill]

Well, it also isn't needed. You can do without it until you can afford it like I did.

[wind zealot]

i can't, I'll literally die to depression

[gleaming hill]

the emotes are nice and all, but if you can't afford it, you can easily do without them.

[tardy rivet]

@wind zealot if you have time, and any Talent in something you can probably sell lessons on Fiverr, That'll make you some bucks to pay VRC+ and Nitro

[gleaming hill]

VRC+ IMO is a bit overpriced

[wind zealot]

what the fuck is talent

and fiverr

[tardy rivet]

I meant if you are a good developper or something

[wind zealot]

developer lol

[gleaming hill]

Look up Touhou remixes on YT if you want to see what talent is.

Lots of it there.

[tardy rivet]

It's a social media where people sell bunch of different things

[wind zealot]

i mean i might be good by microsoft standards, but i don't know a single language

[gleaming hill]

C# is a good one to start with.

[analog schooner]

On that matter, don't rely on stuff like Youtube ad revenue for your primary or only income.

[halcyon bobcat]

screams in python noises

[tardy rivet]

I think our conversation is getting a little bit far from Vrchat 😅

[gleaming hill]

I have a Python 3 book at home I bought recently.

I also have Python on my iPhone SE.

[obtuse flame]

I hope that I can catch someone at the moment since last saturday my status disappears on me, also unable to remove avatar not avaiable on my vrc+ groups taking up space.

[analog schooner]

By the way, does anyone know what happened to that Wild West Goldrush gamemode?

You know the one where Bandits capture gold and Sheriffs protect it?

[lilac swan]

Steel and gold? Non functional. Old update broke the world and hasn't been reworked yet by the vrc team.

[analog schooner]

Oh, well thanks for the info.

[lilac swan]

Same thing with battle disc but there is a fanmade world that works pretty well

[honest forge]

morning

[wind zealot]

g'day

[peak carbon]

Hey, I'm new here.

[honest forge]

hī new

[stark bridge]

yo its me

[wind zealot]

hi me, I'm Tue

[peak carbon]

That joke was horribly, keep trying though!

[wind zealot]

Tue for Tuesday

[peak carbon]

[stark bridge]

hello tue its me me]

[wind zealot]

[stark bridge]

i have played vr chat for about 20 minutes so im basically an expert

[honest forge]

tuesday!

[wind zealot]

1 minute to becum pro

[stark bridge]

ngl i played cuz drumsy videos

[wind zealot]

i cuzi. saw a giant pricetag of FREE

[flat girder]

I've wanted to play vr chat while nagzz (joey) was still their but even though he is gone im still having fun playing it and meeting people

[quasi cave]

So I have an avatar that is not available anymore how can I remove it?

[unreal verge]

Usually you click on it and then unfavorite i guess

[regal furnace]

^

[still lark]

broken this patch

You'll have to wait till next one

[unreal verge]

Well, that doesn't surprise me

[vocal shard]

pp

[honest forge]

hello

[mossy creek]

hello

https://tenor.com/view/no-no-square-touch-dont-touche-me-there-gif-18043538

[indigo bluff]

Anyone on?

[lusty rock]

question y'all, i used some avatar (not my creation) and logged in to find its flagged as "unavailable" but i cant remove it from favorites, any way to remove it?

[blazing meadow]

Hi

[lusty rock]

thanks

[indigo bluff]

Its maker/creator probs updating it

[lusty rock]

his world disappeared too tho

[lilac swan]

It seems to be a bug this patch you can't unfavourite avatars that are removed, so you'll have to wait for next patch to roll in that hopefully has that fixed

[chilly niche]

What's up everyone

[jovial flicker]

Unpopular opinion

If I have a soundboard like voicemod or sum

And you have to play your sounds through your phone

You can’t call my soundboard dogshit

👀

[pseudo kraken]

agreed

dont have a soundboard but thats reasonable

im one of those kids who has to search up a yt vid and then play it when people wanna hear it lmfao

[jovial flicker]

It’s always a quest user too

Like I mainly play on quest 2 until it dies and then I switch to pc to let it charge

But if I join my quest friends and use my soundboard, the other quest users get soooo mad

I had a guy tell me I’ve never felt the embrace of a woman because I used my soundboard

Funny stuff

[sharp galleon]

People are cancer; ignore them.

[vocal shard]

assuming im playing music through phone. audio input switching apps exist. like switching audio output from yt music video to input vrc microphone. been there done that

[flat girder]

When you get on vr and join a friend and the first thing you see is 20 moths surrounding a lamp

Hopu moths

And then you join them to scare rhe next person that comes

[marsh heath]

Is anyone still having problems with the social menu? It’s completely screwed for myself any all of my friends, it’s complete pot-luck if it is correct or not and restarting the game helps a little but it seems to be getting worse.

[wind zealot]

can someone just post in #announcements that social is broken stop asking until we fix it?

[marsh heath]

It’s really annoying, that this social platform has a broken social menu but other things seem to get priority and the fact that the social menu is broken is almost ignored.

[blissful ledge]

vrchat

[marsh heath]

It’s been stuffed for like a month now.

[wind zealot]

what if it's just hard to fix?

as a company it would be a very bad choice to ignore some of those aspects

[marsh heath]

Then maybe they should focus their efforts on that.

[wind zealot]

well tell me how would you make animating team go to bugfixing

development team onto bugfixing might be possible

also you know, at least it's not a bug that has been on for 6 years

[marsh heath]

They’re releasing updates with new features such as “streamer mode” etc which are all welcome features but they’re pretty useless when the core aspect of the social platform is broken.

[wind zealot]

oh and btw

devs have plans at least a year in advance, they more than likely can't cancel the plan unless their hq gets yeeted or something of the same level happens

[jovial flicker]

Just got muted for 3 hours on the recroom server for making fun of an infant crying over art in a vr game

[marsh heath]

I understand that, but it still feels VRC are in denial that this problem even exists sometimes.

[jovial flicker]

Vrchat mods are pretty chill tbh

[honest forge]

they do

[ruby needle]

I always love the irony of complains like this, when there was literally also stuff regarding the issues you complained about in the patch.
Weather or not they fully managed to solve the issues is a different thing, but you're saying it as if nothing happens and no one cares.
There are multiple developers, and multiple people will work on multiple things independently.

[jovial flicker]

I’m sure they wouldn’t mute me if I said some dumb shit they’d probably tell me that I said some dumb shit

[sharp galleon]

Rec Room sucks compared to VRC

[jovial flicker]

Ong

[sharp galleon]

Everything is a paywall

[wind zealot]

Trump approves

[sharp galleon]

Lol

[marsh heath]

I do see they mention fixes in the patch notes, they have the last couple of times but the problem still exists, and to be frank it’s worse now. It worked fine over Christmas and new year. I know the servers got overloaded on NYE, that’s to be expected but the social menu still worked. I can’t imagine they’re as busy now as they were then.

[ruby needle]

That's how it is tho, current weekends reach the same player counts as NYE

[marsh heath]

Fair enough, but it’s always broken since the last update, not just the weekends.

It’s doing weird things too like someone who is just logged on to the VRC website shows online in the game.

(I tested that with a friend)

[honest forge]

the servers are technically getting stronger. but when they get edited, stuff can get broken and there is not a lot of people on that team that are able to fix that issue

[marsh heath]

I’m sorry if it sounds like I’m ranting, I do love VRChat but it’s really frustrating that what was great a month ago is so broken now.

[wind zealot]

anyone has issues with loading worlds/avatars?

[honest forge]

yea. but to be honest 🤔, this was probs to be expected. it is a game full of developers, made by a small amount of developers. and obviouslly not all of those developers in the player base are nice and can cause many issues slowing down an already backed up dev team

[marsh heath]

I agree, but when the whole purpose of the game is a social platform and the social aspect of it is broken, shouldn’t that get some priority?

[ruby needle]

The biggest priority till now was getting server stuff restructured to hold up with the new regular peak loads. (This is last weekend.)
And the recent patch was this week, which clearly had the issues in mind as well, so it is still being targeted and worked on, isn't it?

[honest forge]

technically. but thats not exactly how that practice works. this same problem occured to alt space and it took them 3 months to get their stuff togethor (granted, their social menu is a lot more complex)

the idea is to ”try” certain fixes since there is no real way to push out something that truely fixes a thing this massive. either their current plan was unsuccessful or something else happened that is preventing it from working

took me 3 months to make a videoplayer work on quest also based on guess work since there was no real way to figure it out

[ruby needle]

mhm. changes in the wild can also behave vastly different then in testing, even in open beta testing.
Cus you will never hit the actual load and device variety of the whole userbase.

[honest forge]

plus, having 2 open betas was quite interesting

[marsh heath]

Something changed along the line somewhere along the line that broke the social menu. I’m not convinced it’s purely down to server loads because it’s currently broken at all times and not just peak times. I’m used to working with a change management process where if something breaks we roll back.

[ruby needle]

rolling back the servers to not beeing able to deal with it and thus having to deactivate it? 😄

[honest forge]

api was changed but rolling back seems a bit intense to do by itself

[ruby needle]

While it's a bummer to deal with for the moment, it's also not that it's completely breaking the game that you'd have to panic revert everything rather then using the live data to find the causes.

[honest forge]

actually, that would never work since a lot of content is stored and connections being saved are kept there

wasnt before october, the social menu actually acted the same way it does today? just realized that

[marsh heath]

I just hope it’s sorted soon. Quite a few people I know are looking at CVR and if that takes off I think VRC could be in trouble. I’m not ready to jump ship just yet, all my friends and the content is here on VRC. Of course CVR could break as soon as it’s loaded down too, only time will tell I suppose.

[honest forge]

i dont think many people are going to change. cvr uses a lot of things that i ported into a world on vrc that no one seemed to care or even like. even their IK is weird compared to vrc

its like roblox

however, the portible mirror/tv screen and realistic audio seemed to perk peoples interests so ill probs keep those

[marsh heath]

It’s definitely not perfect by any means but there’s some things there VRC could adopt to improve quality of life here.

[honest forge]

another thing, i dont think cvr is ever going to be quest since they are literally following what vrc did and did PC only

[wind zealot]

less kids

[marsh heath]

I have to be honest, and apologies to quest users, but I’m on PC and don’t really want to talk to a bunch of 12 year olds.

[honest forge]

quality of life is my thingy, i made a menu that can do a bit of stuff and i plan to add a bunch more like “better flight”, “calling players via a phone” teleporting to players, and other random stuff i still gotta script out

that is very fair, for some reason quest on vrc is just children except like 10%

my worlds have a long ban list because of the age thing

but they make the numbers go brr. so cvr is def going to have to a lot better than what theyve been doing

once i finish that world menu that basically copies 4 other socialvr games. im making it public so basically every world would have it

[marsh heath]

I do have adult friends in quest and I know not everyone has the resources to get a full gaming setup so I do feel sorry that they’re tarred with the same brush as the rest of the Quest kiddies but I do find myself using the block button more often than I should when those guys turn up. It is a shame.

[honest forge]

yea, brushes are annoying. itd be nice if they stayed in their own corner of the game like amongus or stay in rec room

[vocal shard]

@honest forge, stop!

[honest forge]

?

[marsh heath]

Cool

[ionic pilot]

how do you use items in vrchat desktop

[wind zealot]

you pick them up by clicking left mouse button

[ionic pilot]

like avatar items

[wind zealot]

you hold and let go of the right mouse button to throw them(whilst holding left click)

[wind zealot]

if you're about arm controlled things, you need vr
if you're about avatar features, then usually with gestures(Shift+F1-F8) or R key to open up the wheel of choice

[ionic pilot]

ah

alright

[buoyant lodge]

You can use U,I,O,J,K and L to rotate items you pick up when using the desktop client. But the function breaks easily if you are the only person in the current world.

[wind zealot]

never saw it break

[buoyant lodge]

It bugs out if something teleports your avatar, e.g sitting in a chair or respawning. But it gets fixed if someone else joins the world

[wind zealot]

never had that, and because i am very popular i have a lot of friends in the same world

;_;

[vocal shard]

ok got a interesting one

how do u mitigate prop surfing

[noble depot]

add a jump timer if possible?

[honest forge]

oh I know 🤥 what hes talking about

[vocal shard]

wait on the objext?

[honest forge]

yea, thats a world creator desicion to keep that pickup/chair glitch (cough cough summer solitude)

[vocal shard]

how do u even do that

[honest forge]

turn convex on

[vocal shard]

its on

i still surf on my props which sucks

[noble depot]

You could make a gameobject and put colliders blocking places you don't want people to fly to, though how feasible that is depends on your map lol

[vocal shard]

uh its a issue with a dice i have on the world. i want it to be throwable and yeah tested it can be propsurfed the hard way going 80miles/hr into a wall

smh

[meager rose]

Do you want players to be able to collide with them?

If not, try adding them to the Walkthrough layer

[vocal shard]

what the hell is a walkthrough layer

you need to excuse me im extremely noobish in unity

[odd blaze]

layer 17:walktrough

its a dropdown in inspector , you can choose with layer that mesh/object should be on

[vocal shard]

ill try that asap on unity when i come home

[rocky thorn]

lol i just came across a glitch in B Club

literally everyone kept getting teleported into one of the rooms

so i would just be minding my own business and then suddenly im in a room with 29 other people

[noble depot]

that might be a modified client user

[rocky thorn]

all of us confused

really?

thats weird

[noble depot]

sounds like it to me lol
note that modified clients downloaded/used for any purpose are against TOS, and bannable

[rocky thorn]

eventually i got teleported into the void and i couldnt leave the server

[gray edge]

whenever vrchat releases a new update fixing a bug it seems to get even worse, my social menu now stops showing when my friends go offline and they are just permanently shown online, hours after they went offline

[rocky thorn]

world*, because i just kept being teleported to the same place after i fell

[rocky thorn]

well i dont know who had the modified client

[tiny tree]

Anyone know how to make fingers move to an item toggle ? ive been trying to do it in the animation by adding finger properties and moving them but that doesnt work

[vocal shard]

lets gooo!!! Im da baby

[rocky thorn]

ok mr baby

[reef loom]

Anyone know what to do about avatar getting stolen? Lmao, my avis are everywhere now.. rip

[sharp saddle]

You can report it... but I don't think it'll do much.

[noble depot]

If you have evidence (of the avatar being stolen and reuploaded, evidence of you being the original owner/uploader, original avatar ID, stolen avatar ID, etc) report it to #moderation-reports o:

[reef loom]

Lost all motivation to work on it, account is targeted?

Yeah but I only caught 1 guy, but I know its out there, it won't be a chain ban

[spice venture]

Private it

[reef loom]

=.=

[noble depot]

def still worth reporting though o:

[reef loom]

Aye, thanks for the tip.

[flat girder]

Its kinda too late to do much about it

If your seeing it everywhere

[spice venture]

Privating an avatar is the only way I know how to keep people’s dumb paws off of it

[noble depot]

Avatar cloning is a different thing, though modified clients can get around privates/disabled avatar cloning - fairly certain we're talking about stolen and reuploaded avatars though

people can most definitely still get your avatar even if it's private, unfortunately

[reef loom]

We're on bout people yoinking avis, not cloning >..>

[flat girder]

True

[spice venture]

Ahh. Don’t know how to fix that.

[sterile canopy]

yo is anyone having problems unfavoriting an avatar thats not available anymore?

[reef loom]

Welp.. thanks tho

[spice venture]

Yee

[noble depot]

Definitely report as much information as you have on it, if you haven't already - hope everything works out o:

[vocal shard]

aoaoaoaoaoao

[honest forge]

no

[noble depot]

Sony and copyright reasons, mostly

[honest forge]

and just overall not a good idea

[ruby needle]

Not to forget performance.

[noble depot]

Sony's real uncomfortable with modding/custom content that isn't Dreams pretty much lol, and letting people upload literally anything via Unity wouldn't go well

I think it'd perform well (esp. a PS4 Pro) but copyright/sony def make it impossible

[ruby needle]

No

[noble depot]

that is much, much easier said than done lol, not to mention the individual copyright of the avatar/world creators

[ruby needle]

even if it where possible, you'd erease 90%+ of VRC if you where to remove anything that could be a potential copyright issue.

[honest forge]

good idea

[split lotus]

As long as you have a powerful Wifi Router with 5Ghz, wireless is the best.

I thought about ditching my Vive 1.0 with Oculus 2 and see how it performs on wireless so I don't have to be tethered anymore. Keeping my full body and stations of course.

Well it would be connecting to my PC via Virtual Desktop and my PC would still compute the game, so I am not limited to low poli's and worlds that are quest friendly.

But yeah its great for those who want to get into VR and doesn't have a decent PC.

[wind zealot]

Oculus rift, Quest/2 or Go, it's all oculus y'know

[mortal fiber]

virtual desktop is an amazing alternative for VRChat if you have a Quest 1

the native version is honestly shit and using steam vr makes it at least playable

[honest forge]

quest 1 is really painful and hard to make it enjoyible

[open carbon]

am i the only one with the issue that im in the ground

[rancid jewel]

try resetting your avatar, or changing into a different one and switching back.

[lapis orchid]

I don’t think vrchat content will ever come to Sony consoles. You’d need to have the unity sdk Sony provides to build the avatars like you need to build separately for android, and those are only given to Sony game developers that pay and stuffs.

[rancid jewel]

optimizing something for 3 platforms at once would be pain

[lapis orchid]

That too. Psvr on the PS4 is probably more limited than the quest

[noble depot]

likely not, esp. with a PS4 pro - copyright, Sony, and shader issues would def be prevalent though

[lapis orchid]

Unless the PS4 pro adds more vram, that’s going to be the huge limiting factor.

The PS4 only has 4.5gb to work with

[noble depot]

plus heck people don't make Quest versions of their PC avatars already, PS4 avatars would be even more of a rarity

[rancid jewel]

psvr2 on the ps5

optimizing would still be pain because 2 trillion poly anime catgirl with 5,000 dyn bones

[lapis orchid]

I’d think shaders on the PS4 would probably be limited to standard + the mobile shaders quest uses

[rancid jewel]

but the ps5 is still very powerful

[honest forge]

lets not also forget that unity has a ps4 build option... meaning content creators would have to build content for 3 seperate builds

[lapis orchid]

Yes. But you need the PS4 sdk from Sony

Which is available only to game developers in their program

[rancid jewel]

so it's probably not possible in the first place because ^

[honest forge]

we already have difficulty have pc content creators make stuff for quest and Mac users to make for PC

[lapis orchid]

Even if you get the SDK you need a specific unity license issued by unity&sony to use it.

The same applies for any other consoles except Xbox

[rancid jewel]

PCVR

but yeah with all this sdks and licenses and shit i dont think it'll be possible in the first place

[lapis orchid]

Definitely not, unless vrchat, unity, and Sony all agree to something.

Even then it’d probably only be possible with a unity update

And vrchat is still stuck in 2018lts

[rancid jewel]

and upgrading would probably break literally everything

[lapis orchid]

Well I think we’re due for a 2019lts update soon

[rancid jewel]

👀

[lapis orchid]

But that’s still going to be a year or so old.

[rancid jewel]

inb4 that breaks 90% of content

[lapis orchid]

Who knows what will break from that

Exactly haha

2018lts is being dropped by unity soon afaik so that’ll probably give the devs the incentive to update to 2019lts or even 2020lts

[noble depot]

upgrading to 2019 probably would break everything lol, if I'm remembering correctly they had to work with Unity directly to make a solution for 2017 > 2018, a content wipe was planned

[lapis orchid]

Yikes

[noble depot]

keep in mind that there's still avatars from Unity 5.6 ingame too, working to this day o:

with bugs like the weird mirror hand glitch lol, but still

[lapis orchid]

I could’ve sworn unity asset bundles that are exported like the way VRC does can only be used on the same version.

Maybe I’m thinking of UE4

[rancid jewel]

a content wipe was planned
user logs onto game
"where the fuck did everything go"

[lapis orchid]

Lmao

That’s why we’ll never see an upgrade to the new rendering pipelines in 2019+

[rancid jewel]

"i cant erp in the great pug because the great pug doesnt exist anymore >:((("

[lapis orchid]

All shaders would break

[noble depot]

honestly seeing literally everybody as a default Public avatar would be great lol, the average framerate would legitimately be notably better

[lapis orchid]

I get 300+ fps when that’s the case. It’s ridiculous.

[vocal shard]

for april fools vrchat only lets you use default avatars

[rancid jewel]

imagine the confusion and anger that would come out of a content wipe with a game this big

[lapis orchid]

When everyone is loaded that drops to sub 90

[rancid jewel]

it'd be hell

[lapis orchid]

Massive player base loss

A lot of avatar makers are probably gone already

Just old 2.0 worlds that still have their avatars

[unreal verge]

Oof please no

[rancid jewel]

vrchat on steamcharts before wipe: 12,556 playing right now :)
after wipe: 2

[lapis orchid]

Lol

It was 29k yesterday at some point.

[vocal shard]

only quest/fallback

[rancid jewel]

well thank god i have a cool ena quest compatible avatar

[noble depot]

Player numbers have passed 40k on the weekends recently o:

[unreal verge]

Only Quest aka Quest compatible?

[vocal shard]

yeah

[noble depot]

only Quest only avatars

[vocal shard]

that wouldnt really be funny its not like more than half the fallbacks I already see are the defaults

[rancid jewel]

(steamcharts only counts steam btw)

[lapis orchid]

Me too x) thanks to the new limits I was able to jam my avatar down to 10k using fancy optimization

[unreal verge]

Ok that would be fine as i would still be able to use my own avatars as they all are cross-platform lol

[vocal shard]

i spent time and made 4versions of my avatar

[rancid jewel]

god

pain ™️

[lapis orchid]

Dang are there more oculus users than steam users??

[rancid jewel]

yes

[vocal shard]

a 10k poly ver. a 5k poly ver. a scuffed 2k poly and a 999poly

[rancid jewel]

2poly when

[lapis orchid]

W h y
Bet 90% of those are quest users

[rancid jewel]

around 60% of the playerbase is quest standalone

[lapis orchid]

Wow.

[halcyon bobcat]

10 poly :lel:

[vocal shard]

the 999poly is for trolling purposes cause it looks like a abomination

[rancid jewel]

i guessed from looking at the steamcharts and then the overall online

[unreal verge]

I've 3 versions. A Quest version with 5k polys, a PC version and another PC version with more stuff

[rancid jewel]

!online

[floral flax]

There are 20350 users in VRChat currently

[rancid jewel]

alright so like
70-80% is steam rn

[unreal verge]

One poly

[rancid jewel]

when seeing that the peak today on steam was 17k

the power of guessing

[lapis orchid]

I do that too. The high end is for personal use when I’m with a very small amount of people. Handhelds and toggles galore

[unreal verge]

If my pc breaks I'll get Quest standalone user too. Hope it won't happen before I buy a new one. Would get depressing.

[lapis orchid]

I think I hit 20k on the normal pc avatar

[rancid jewel]

when my link cable snaps i just play on steam desktop
quest version of the game is argueably more depressing to play

[lapis orchid]

Why not use virtual desktop?

[rancid jewel]

wifi too slow

[lapis orchid]

Fair.

[unreal verge]

I use Virtual Desktop

[lapis orchid]

My router is in my bedroom so I use VD no problem

[rancid jewel]

my router's across the entire house :pain:

[unreal verge]

But my pc is very old and it's not sure how long until something breaks

[noble depot]

also heck, SteamCharts reports 12,556 users playing an hour ago, VRCBot reports roughly 20350 people (note that VRCBot's number is accurate to about +-200ish people), which leaves roughly 7,794 non SteamVR users (Standalone Quest users/linked Quests or Rifts using Oculus software, Viveport, OpenVR, etc)

[lapis orchid]

That’s how it was before I got out on my own 😂 cables are a pain.

Due to battery life I still end up being tethered to one after 2hrs though.

[noble depot]

majority of that 7k number is probably Quests and Rifts on Oculus software, though

[unreal verge]

I don't think i would play VRChat daily if i would be forced to Quest only. Wouldn't even be able to see the avatars of 99% of my friends

[lapis orchid]

Well now that there’s quest fallbacks that could change

If people find usable avatars for it

I took the time to optimize a quest avatar for a fallback when that update came around.

[unreal verge]

The avatars of my friends won't ever be able to get to good performance lol

[noble depot]

note that currently you can't use public Quest-compatible avatars as fallbacks, they have to be uploaded as a fallback avatar and they'll work for you only

[lapis orchid]

Are they the type to use very poor pc avs all the time?

[unreal verge]

They're already for pc kinda heavy

[rancid jewel]

most of the avatars ive uploaded/use is pc only

[lapis orchid]

I saw a tiny cat in a public world and it was very poor.. I have no idea how.

[rancid jewel]

hehehah funny 1 million poly cat

moment

[noble depot]

y'know there's nothing physically stopping me from putting a material on every polygon

[unreal verge]

Fallback won't be able with my friends avatars but Quest version would

[rancid jewel]

STOP

[lapis orchid]

If it was 1m I would’ve noticed if my frames went to 10

[noble depot]

aggressive Blender launching sounds

[rancid jewel]

NONNONONO

[noble depot]

lmao

[lapis orchid]

They’d just set different avatars as their fallback. Not necessarily a quest version of the same avatar

[rancid jewel]

2 trillion poly catgirl with a material on every polygon, the avatar itself is a shader, every gesture plays an animation, and 4,000 dynamic bones.

[lapis orchid]

2 fps

[unreal verge]

But that's still shit as it's something completely different and the default avatars are all looking ugly lol

[rancid jewel]

that wouldnt even be "verypoor" that'd be "go outside you unoptimizing fuck"

[noble depot]

2 fpminute

[lapis orchid]

I meannn mine isn’t particularly ugly and it works out well.

[rancid jewel]

2 fph
frames per hour

[unreal verge]

I really don't like the default ones. I'll upload a fallback too. Will be a default Hobkin reduced to 5k polys but whatever

[lapis orchid]

I’d post a pic here if that was allowed lol

[unreal verge]

At least it comes near my actual avatars. But it's not like people will see my fallback as my avatars are already Quest compatible

[lapis orchid]

I got my main avatar down to 9,998 poly

[noble depot]

#vrchat-pictures or #general-media might work? o:

[split lotus]

Don't forget the cringey join sounds like "Your Catqueen Has joined your lobby"

[rancid jewel]

loud rap song

[lapis orchid]

Those seem too high bar for the low quality unity screenshot I took lol

[ruby needle]

They're not image hosting channel for other channels tho.
There is always image hosts like imgur or whatever for that.

[vocal shard]

make a screen of your avatar
put it on a plane.
rig it
upload as fallback.
stonks xd

[lapis orchid]

That too 😂

[noble depot]

whoop lol, def fair sorry

[lapis orchid]

Are links allowed here?

[rancid jewel]

depends