#vrchat-general-2

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vocal shard
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anyone experiencing avatars not uploading but it says they're on your account on the website and unity?

brazen chasm
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how did i spell that wrong lol

tough lance
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they will only show up in game if you have the exact version required

vocal shard
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yeah i do I've been trying everything

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I downloaded it from the website

tough lance
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can you check at the top left of your unity project for which version you're using

vocal shard
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yeah

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unity 2019.4.21f1

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it's a 3.0 avatar

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You have to use 2018.4.20f1.

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yes thats to new for us.

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Ooooohhh, everyone kept telling me I needed to use that one

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Apparently you can get it from Unity Hub, but I was not able to, so I installed the standalone of it.

vital wren
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servers went down again ._.

vocal shard
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Ooohhh

tough lance
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I'm not sure why anybody would tell you to get a different version

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unity is a game engine, vrchat is completely based on Unity

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to make content for the game, you need to use the EXACT version the game runs on

vocal shard
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I have no clue too

tough lance
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which is 2018.4.20f1

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even though that you might be able to upload content with a different version, you will NOT see it in game

vocal shard
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That make sense. Augh

round relic
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ok so it looks like i have to get a headset with built in mic adaptation

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there is no jack for mic on my current pc so i can't really use the adapter that came with kraken pros i've got

unreal verge
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I got the feeling that VRChats database is fucked. First the Mongo login error, Mongo relates to MongoDB which is meant for databases. Then the API acting up and worlds and stuff going corrupt during uploading.

eternal shell
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Redid my pfp!!

unkempt cradle
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kraken is USB isn't it? @round relic

fickle ivy
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What is everyone's audio setup for VR? I'm shopping for new headphones, but the ones i got were doodoo and i'm returning them.

unkempt cradle
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i'm using some JBL headphones

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just plugged into the quest 2

round relic
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kraken pro is 3.55 mm splitter

pliant epoch
sharp saddle
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Steelseries headsets are really meh, imo.

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Bought an Arctis 7 and it felt... cheap.

timber wave
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I use kraken TE with quest

sharp saddle
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Corsair Virtuoso RGB ftw.

vocal shard
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I have a steel series headset...It sucks.
The ear muffs are enormous and whenever I look down, They fall off/If the cord gets caught on something, it detaches. It has alot of issues

unkempt cradle
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I wish my void pro still worked

echo nymph
unkempt cradle
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the adapter just snapped in half a while back

noble depot
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Steelseries is good for mice and keyboards in my experience, but yeah all my Steelseries headphones have broken

gleaming kraken
timber wave
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I want drip levi

gleaming kraken
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the idiot who made that doesnt know what hes doing

vocal shard
pliant epoch
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I would have bought something more expensive but I had the goal of having two identical headphones and they were on sale.

vocal shard
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The astros are nice and comfy

timber wave
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I saw him in a video before so he exists in game

vocal shard
zealous fulcrum
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Is anyone having issues uploading avatars I can’t tell if it’s my internet or if it’s just been being weird recently

timber wave
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Don’t buy steelseries keyboards

sharp saddle
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I'm using a Steelseries keyboard.

noble depot
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Mine's worked for five years without issue o:

zealous fulcrum
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Oh alright, ty very much

vocal shard
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I've had my headset for awhile

timber wave
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I bought mine and the rgb customizing app is atrocious

pliant epoch
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So far I've had to replace only one set of Steel Series Arctis 3s headphones though that was because my desk collapsed and damaged the right speaker of the headphones. Only spent 5 dollars on shipping as I bought Asurion insurance for them.

raven mango
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hey what headset does everyone use?

limber ore
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tech-4 eco mini earbud

timber wave
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Razer Kraken TE

pliant epoch
heavy portal
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anyone had an issue logging into vrchat-home

noble depot
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Corsair VOID RGB, wired

hollow ginkgo
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Does VRChat support more than 6 point tracking?

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Like if I wanted to get, knee, elbow, chest, and shoulder trackers

vocal shard
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I'm not sure but I think you could ask them

inner cape
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It does not.

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Not legally, atleast. 🤫

hollow ginkgo
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People do it illegally ? :0

inner cape
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Yes, quite literally.

hollow ginkgo
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Who the heck

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Well I was just something because

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Some of my breakdancer friends

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Have some insane knee and arm tracking

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I'm like there's no way you can do that with 6pt

inner cape
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🤷‍♂️

hollow ginkgo
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Oh welp

inner cape
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Why didn't you ask them?

hollow ginkgo
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true

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I'm dumb 🤦

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Brb and thanks for the help •°

inner cape
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o7

vocal shard
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hey

night axle
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Hiiii

vocal shard
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:3

viscid girder
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Anyone that has a valve index, does your headset go into searching mode and not want to work? I just got mine delivered today, my pc is up to date on everything and is very compatible for the index. it worked for a moment but then went back to being a gray screen and basically stayed that way.

dim geode
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only when my base stations aren't visible and turned on

viscid girder
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to get them visible to each other do they have to be like looking at one and another

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i came from a rift s so this is all new to me

jagged herald
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guys i have a question and u can call me dumb but is vrchat compatible with oculus quest

vocal shard
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Yeah.

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With limitations ofc.

jagged herald
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ah, okay thank u!

vocal shard
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There's a quest channel if you wish to make some friends or ask questions. #quest-general

jagged herald
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thank u so much

vocal shard
open crescent
viscid girder
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ok ill move them around and see what i can do

spring otter
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Me waiting for my vrchat account to rank up so i can import my custom avatars i have downloaded

lapis rose
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hi guys

jagged herald
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hiiii

lapis rose
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im new to VRchat

jagged herald
brave falcon
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im new to VRchat too

night axle
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Hello!

jagged herald
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uhhh so like what's the best vr headset to play vrchat on

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i think i've saved up a good chunk of change

sharp saddle
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The one you can afford. ;)

jagged herald
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okie

spring otter
sharp saddle
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But your PC has to be VR-ready too.

spring otter
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Ye

jagged herald
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well, i had my brother build me a pc so idk if that's fine bc i didnt wanna buy a 4565456 dollar pc

spring otter
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for a vr ready pc u only need about 1k$

jagged herald
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okay, thanksss :))

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im kinda new to this whole thing so yeah sorry if i say anything dumb

sharp saddle
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Learning process.

jagged herald
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ya lol i guess

slim cape
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yo

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what do i do

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everytime i try to open VRChat it doesnt open

fluid nexus
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server issues?

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my vrchat keep loading

amber needle
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are you using the quest 2

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their a bug where you try load to different world it will lock up. l'll have too exit the vrchat.

brave falcon
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my character would not load

slim cape
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i cant open vrchat for some reason

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i've restarted my computer and it still not opening

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help

spice pewter
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IS VRC Avatar UPloading DOwn?

vocal shard
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ya

slim cape
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i cant even open steam

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help

hushed schooner
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looking for some furry friends

vocal shard
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I’m furry friend

loud gale
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I have to make more friends..

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But I realize that this is like highschool. Most people in vrchat have their own groups who essentially fit to the stereotypical highschool scenario from movies, where you join a group or either make a group (which is extremely rare)

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All while the people usually stick to their main group and you rather not intrude on it.

vocal shard
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I've made friends by just standing there and listening to conversations

loud gale
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I mean I have too but none of them hangout with me unless I go to them or something

spark finch
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Random people came up to me tonight and started to talk to me and we hung out all night

loud gale
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Will you contact them again if they never contact you?

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🔫

spark finch
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I thought aboht this tonight like I wonder if they will talk to me again. I’d probably message them

vocal shard
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I'm a "If they don't start conversations with me, I'm not starting conversations with them."

loud gale
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Well shit I guess that's an outcome

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That's exactly not what you call friends, or the bar is pretty low for ya "."

vocal shard
loud gale
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Guessing 50% of the people you speak to, to label as such, actually never spoke to you again, at least 50% of the time while the other 50% hangout or think of ya at least once lol

vocal shard
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I have plenty of friends that actually start conversations with me.

loud gale
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Yes, but will all of them be that type of person?

vocal shard
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Obviously not.

loud gale
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Though that makes me contemplate if there must be a balance, a networking of sort, to create a webbing.

spark finch
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I suppose it also depends on if you had a really good time with them or not lol

loud gale
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Hmm.

spark finch
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Just like in real life, if you hang out and it’s kinda like meh whatever chances are you’re not going to go out of your way to want to hang out again

vocal shard
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It can be different

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Even if you have a good time, Some just never come back.

loud gale
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^

spark finch
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Yeah true.

loud gale
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I have 90% of those.

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Then again that's just how my life is. It makes people be push by an invisible wall to let me sit in the back without having to speak half the time.

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It's a pretty nifty lifestyle just watching people a majority of your life while getting away with hearing the craziest shit.

spark finch
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I was sitting alone tonight and heard some weird ass shit lol

vocal shard
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I'd definitely play with people continuously like every week. I'm not that kind of person who never returns

vocal shard
loud gale
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I mean I have to spend 30 minutes calibrating my shit, I go through alot to just hangout with people to be fair..

vocal shard
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Sad.

loud gale
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Hmm.

vocal shard
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i hate among us so much 😡 vrcAngry vrcBrokenHeart

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i'm reporting this game later

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ok

robust thunder
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someones salty

vocal shard
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Nah.

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Pepper-y.

robust thunder
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Ooooo

loud gale
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Ice cream.

robust thunder
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spicy

loud gale
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Whenever a conversation like this happens, it's boring. It's happen too many times, I just shift the subject to ice cream. So we'll move there, because I say so.

robust thunder
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broooooo

vocal shard
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Lmao.

robust thunder
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pistachio ice cream though

loud gale
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What's pistachio taste like again

robust thunder
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oh my god

loud gale
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Isn't that the like, very uhhhh

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Nut like flavor, but its like a soft nut that you bite into

robust thunder
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and you call yourself the ice cream god

loud gale
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I'm just remembering if that's the right flavor I'm thinking of.

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Have you tried blue moon flavor?

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It's a citrus taste of orange and fruits. Kek.

robust thunder
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yush

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thats a solid choice mate

vocal shard
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I just realized you have an alastor pfp.

honest forge
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ive never heard of these

robust thunder
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mate mate mate

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i am disappointed in you rn

vocal shard
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Time to be negative.

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Pistachio icecream sounds disgusting.

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Like pecan pie, An abomination.

robust thunder
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c'mon dot. just try it

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for me?

vocal shard
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Idk you

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So, I don't think I'll do that for you, bud. KannaWut

loud gale
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I have an alastor pfp, yes, I got bored, and I feel like I can have a common personality nearly to his.

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Though technically I'm more of a Jiraiya persona, though I rather not have that as a profile pic, as the gifs are meh.

vocal shard
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Alastor is just an Overly Sophisticated Strawberry.

loud gale
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Plus my wife uses the uhhhhh

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Uhhhh princessssss

vocal shard
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Charlie?

loud gale
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Yeah that

vocal shard
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Soooo.

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What VR headset do you use, Ohma?

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🚪

robust thunder
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i use the vr headset

heady palm
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Anyone wanna play among us with me and my friend

robust thunder
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rule 15

loud gale
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I use quest 2.

vocal shard
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Nice.

loud gale
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I wasn't really thinking about what the best set was. No regrets though, I just want a vr set for whatever.

vocal shard
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That's what I was thinking.

spice pewter
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Avatar uploading still down?

loud gale
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Oof

brave falcon
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my character would not load

loud gale
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Let me check if last nights avatar went in to see

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Yeah its in

heady palm
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Anyone down to play among us with me and my friend

spice pewter
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but is it down curretly

heady palm
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It is?

vocal shard
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Maybe it's just being wack again.

lethal jay
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Though tbf they never actually stated it was fixed

heady palm
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The game is perfectly fine now

lethal jay
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Finally, just as a reminder, we're currently seeing some server-related issues. See the previous messages in this #announcements channel to learn more. We're actively working on these issues and will continue to keep you updated.

heady palm
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#18752 if u want to join

lethal jay
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The game itself might be fine but it was mostly the api that was going fucky

vocal shard
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I'm gonna say it.

lethal jay
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Oh no

vocal shard
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Fucky wucky.

I'm sorry.

lethal jay
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I wish I never met you

vocal shard
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Please stomp on my corpse.

heady palm
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Plz we need more people

honest forge
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hellœ?

loud gale
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No no no

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You fool I'm about to make god smite me with this, the church will never accept me.

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This is a torment. A cruelty to the eyes.

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Fuwucky uwucky

vocal shard
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You just made it worse.

loud gale
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gets ban

vocal shard
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🔨

loud gale
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I have no regrets.

lethal jay
vocal shard
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Why.

loud gale
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My last words will bring the ultimate cringe upon my death

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The words of 2010 emos

vocal shard
loud gale
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Slowly reaches for the emoticon face and the r word

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rawr x3

vocal shard
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Noo..

lethal jay
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uwu

loud gale
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Shot

vocal shard
narrow steeple
loud gale
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I'm never gonna make friends on vrchat after stating those words

vocal shard
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Yo

loud gale
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Vrchat has now abandon me for my heresy.

honest forge
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ah whats going on?

rough holly
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I heard heresy, I'm summoning my space marines

vocal shard
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😂😂😂😂

loud gale
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You're gonna need more than an army to stop me.

desert stratus
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twist

vocal shard
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No one is going to stop you because vrc is filled with people that say those...words.

loud gale
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Ha.

desert stratus
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vrchat is an okay game

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@loud gale what are u plannin to do

loud gale
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What do you mean?

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I'm just going to wing it so hard I fly in life. That's my answer to everything.

narrow steeple
loud gale
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The heavens will quake before me, I am the equal to heaven.

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You will remember my name for the rest of your lifetime. Sun. Wu. Kong.

desert stratus
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throne's free, i quit

loud gale
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~ Immortal demon slayer

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Sweet dibs

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The new theme song of people is I'm still here

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By john rzeznik.

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If you haven't seen treasure planet you're a heretic get out of my throne room.

uncut grove
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hey

vocal shard
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I can't load into any world's help

vagrant fiber
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Hi

neat ferry
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Guys.

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I can't load to any worlds or avatars.

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Like i can't download and stuff.

shut apex
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Defs not clicking that

neat ferry
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nope

shut apex
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Anyway yeah servers been dying for a bit now

neat ferry
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Yeah, I can't download new avatars.

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And when worlds, I get booted back to my home world.

shut apex
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Not even 2 minutes ago

neat ferry
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Oh.

shut apex
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happyshark hopefully it means they finally fix the servers

neat ferry
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No wonder.

river wasp
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They fix something then something else breaks

red flame
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Finally the servers will get fixed lol. I've been trying to play Among Us and murder 4, for 3 days xD

shut apex
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True true but gotta give them some hope

vocal shard
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False hope.

neat ferry
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I'm just hanging out with my friends but you know.

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I can't enjoy to the fullest, no avatars and worlds to hop in.

shut apex
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Welp just gotta hope

uncut trail
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eta maint

spice pewter
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Cant switch avatars

sinful wolf
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friendlist away

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:kekw:

azure dust
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are servers down? vrcWOAH

sinful wolf
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was for a few minutes now iam stuck in home cant see friends cant switch avis

azure dust
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Ok just noticed, maintenance is happening nvm lol

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I'm getting the vrchat failed to authenticate with realtime servers

vocal shard
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maintenance

vocal shard
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Yep, just give it a while till its back up.

sinful wolf
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i was about to hop in and have work out lessons

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seems like i have to work out for my own now

vocal shard
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Workout lessons?

sinful wolf
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yeah i do work out with ppl in vr chat why ? 😄

brave haven
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Its vrchat still in Maintenance

vocal shard
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no reason i was just curious.

sinful wolf
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you know its more funny when you can talk and hear others around you instead be just alone at home

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i dont like lonelyness and i love work out cause i am getting bigger and bigger and many girls going crazy just from watching me

vocal shard
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GREAT maintenance bruh

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Well yeah.. i have done it for years, but workout in vr seems interesting.

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I thought they were applying Fixes to these servers

azure dust
vocal shard
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usually fixes come with maintenance

lusty drift
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Maintenance is probably still happening

neon vigil
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Seems avatars are messing up now

uncut trail
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maint starting

sinful wolf
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good for ppl that sleep

forest sapphire
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yep just upload a avatar

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cant change

sinful wolf
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cause ppl that are about to hop in or they was in they cant do nothing now xd

spring mist
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I seen some vrchat users with an ear on their profile thing?? Like a white ear symbol

neat ferry
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Yeah, me and my friends in VRchat stopped the stream early. VRchat had a server issue and doing maintenance now. So we went to bed.

neat ferry
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If there's no icon, that means they muted you or whatever.

spring mist
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Ohhh

sinful wolf
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yep

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if you are new player most likely all trusted users will have you muted

spring mist
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Ye makes sens

covert chasm
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Maintenance complete, but you may have to make a new instance #announcements

sinful wolf
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cause most of new users and new comers just do so many bs and they are annoying or they are just in the game to hurt you or try to attack you psychically

forest sapphire
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close enough to hear you

vocal shard
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I'm in borderline maximum safety so im good. lol

sinful wolf
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better avoid completely to talk to them i am personally hiding even their avatars cause most of the time they have something big annoying or crashers

sinful wolf
sinful wolf
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easy still didnt repaired that my game crashing @covert chasm

spring mist
covert chasm
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Server maintenance typically does not solve a VRChat crash! 🙂

sinful wolf
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what about start work on that and what about make game use a fking all cores instead of one ?

covert chasm
sinful wolf
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nah man its about use brain when making a game

covert chasm
sinful wolf
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who ever make game in 2021 to run on 1 core of cpu

covert chasm
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Do you have a CPU with more than one core?

vocal shard
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Moz vrchat has been around longer than all the other social platforms combined.. they used a shit load of brain to do what they have done.

sinful wolf
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i have cpu with 32 cores

covert chasm
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Physical cores? Impressive. I didn't know they sold those as desktop CPUs!

Either way, yes, VRChat will use as many cores as you have available to whatever limit Unity has, which.. I'm not sure what it is, but it is a large number.

spring mist
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Tupper has alot of patience

sinful wolf
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mhmm

vocal shard
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All my cores are utilised in vrchat.. not just one...

covert chasm
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I used to work at Best Buy, so I'm used to dealing with customers who have very little technical knowledge.

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🙂

sinful wolf
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well the game crash time to time for everyone even they dont show ppls shaders so its not crasher avatar issue

covert chasm
vocal shard
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Best buy..a rift and get rid of your quest.

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best buy

spring mist
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Rift vs index?

sinful wolf
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sometimes i am getting bsod from vr chat non other game ever did that

covert chasm
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Rift S isn't manufactured anymore, so Index

sinful wolf
vocal shard
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I use a CV1 that is honestly my favourite..

sinful wolf
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or like its being shipped to my country

sinful wolf
vocal shard
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ive gone through 3 cv's now..

lethal jay
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Tupper could I ask you a question (Not vrc related I swear)

covert chasm
spring mist
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Did you build your pc @sinful wolf

vocal shard
# sinful wolf how much for that ?

i got it second hand from a seller on ebay that took many pictures upclose an all to make sure all was good.. but overall 3 mounts for the walls/3 sensors/touch and a 5 metre extension for the headset for only £160.

covert chasm
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but you swore it

sinful wolf
spring mist
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ok

lethal jay
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Oop, I was gonna ask what you like to listen to in your spare time

spring mist
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Well i did too and my hardware is from 2016 and i've never bsod in vrchat

vocal shard
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I like the sound of screaming children in vrchat.. that always makes me feel like im part of something bigger than myself.

lethal jay
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It's just something that I like to know about people so I can judge them on it. evilhmm

sinful wolf
spring mist
vocal shard
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I'm sure there are stocks somewhere online though..

sinful wolf
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bruh i am not going to buy index cause its literally more than monthy paycheck we get in my country

vocal shard
spring mist
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Ohhh

vocal shard
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The only thing i would like is a very large Fov thats really the only thing i can think of because resolution wise per eye.. i can just upscale.. and thats honestly good enough.

sinful wolf
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mhmm

spring mist
vocal shard
spring mist
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hm

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So much for dirt cheap fbr lol

vocal shard
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If i wanted full body.. a suit would probably be the best option i guess.. because im sticking with the cv1 no matter what.. i dont play games.. i use to cv1 for testing worlds and then once im happy i release.. but yeah im not one for paying out a few thousand or around that even for a headset i wont even use for gaming.

spring mist
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i see

ruby burrow
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Anyone here longsighted that uses VR? Trying to remember how that works out.

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Personally I'm short sighted and VR without glasses is exactly as blurry as IRL without glasses.

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But I vaguely remember someone saying it's not the case for longsighted people? Just not sure and wanted to check.

gleaming kraken
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great, im still having issues. now one of my avatars refuses to update.

unreal verge
gleaming kraken
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it "seems" to be fine now

unreal verge
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I already assumed their database is royally fucked. And if it is what i think then it's really bad.

vocal shard
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Question is there state based worlds? It be nice.

neon hazel
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Pain

rigid moat
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whne i load in i get" user from this channel has been blocked"

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"user in your channel was banned from this server" as well?

whole harbor
vocal shard
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Ahoy-hoy.

cosmic shale
ruby burrow
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The reality is that it definitely does. Speaking from two and a half years experience, using both a Vive and Index.

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I won't claim to fully understand how it works, but I believe it's something to do with the lenses and how they effectively make it as if the panels are 2 to 3 meters away from you.

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Which perhaps makes some sense on why people with long sightedness effectively no longer suffer it, if so.

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Because if everything is effectively 2 to 3m away, then for many long sighted people nothing will technically be close enough to where they'd usually not see clearly, even if it's a book held "Up close".

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I've just got this vague understanding about the "focal depth" of the lenses, or something, that someone once told me.

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Hopefully I'm not way off.

unkempt hemlock
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greetings everyone 🙂

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I have a question directed towards the VRChat Team, it's regarding a thesis I'm writing

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where can I best ask this question?

ruby burrow
#

Same.

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How close does it need to be?

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Better than me then. Bah. xD

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VR lenses are strange clever things. ._.

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I read an article about whether VR use was harmful to the eyes, with obvious references to how ridiculously close the displays are.
But it pointed out that due to how the lenses work, the effective distance your eyes focus at is actually far greater than where you'd be focusing if using a monitor or phone.

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And thus arguably significantly more healthy for them.

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Most VR applications also encourage better use of the muscles required for rotating around your peripheral vision. The lack of which is another key source of strain from typical prolonged screen use.

plain lion
#

hi

vocal shard
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Ahoy pfp.

sand rapids
#

how come the great pug and black cat look different than on youtube videos

ruby burrow
#

The promising thing about Deca, is mainly the eye tracking, far as I see it.

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It's lower quality than other solutions such as Vive's, so likely not up to task for things like foveated rendering, but more than good enough for social interaction and more general gameplay elements.

sand rapids
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yeah but they are smaller now

sand rapids
regal furnace
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quest doesnt have the pug, only the pug west, which is a different world than the original

ruby burrow
#

Thought so. You're visiting the Quest version of the Pug. "The Great Pug: West" I think it's called?

regal furnace
#

smaller and more optimized

ruby burrow
#

The Black Cat is Quest compatible though, and should be just the same, spare for some simpler graphics possibly.

sand rapids
#

way smaller

regal furnace
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no upstairs area?

sand rapids
#

for the great pug no

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just a bar and bathroom

regal furnace
#

great pug and great pug west are 2 different worlds

sand rapids
#

oh

regal furnace
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the great pug is PC only

sand rapids
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sad

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well ty

rigid moat
#

anyone recommend must have accessories for the quest 2??

sand rapids
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battery pack

vocal shard
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New head strap

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Controller grips

sand rapids
#

yeah the regular strap gets painful to wear

vocal shard
#

"Protective gear" as well

sand rapids
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i just use the strap the controllers come with and tie it around so its like a valve index

rigid moat
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yes! i got a cheapo link cable, that was a must, i know!

vocal shard
rigid moat
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what is protective gear?

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i did see a video that did that strap hack, is that comfortable??

sand rapids
#

i dont plan on getting a link cable since my pc doesnt have a gpu

vocal shard
sand rapids
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i have a question

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whats the best world in vrchat quest to chill in and make friends

vocal shard
#

Eh..It really depends tbh.

sand rapids
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yeah

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on all quest

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its only on pc

vocal shard
#

From personal experiences, I'd say stay away from among us if it's quest compatible

sand rapids
#

it is

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i just played it a bit ago

vocal shard
#

Try Black cat? You may find mean people though. (Just like any other lobby/world.)

sand rapids
#

black cat mainly has those big anime girls running around, i normally go there but im not a huge fan of it personally

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ive only found like 5 good servers

rigid moat
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the rainy rooftop one is ok but usually black cat has ppl in it so its just touch and go...

vocal shard
#

Rain rooftop is not okay. (oftenly from what I've heard)

rigid moat
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really?? i met a few nic eppl from there

vocal shard
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(That's where most kids dwell)

rigid moat
#

i play when the kids are asleep coz, australia

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its like 2am-6am when i play, so the kids are long gone

cedar quest
#

lul

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meanwhile when i play it's still early in the evening in the us

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i get to see a fuckton of kids from there x)

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screeching in their mics 😅

rigid moat
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noiiiice hahahaha

vocal shard
#

Toothbrushes get instantly blocked.

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Kid or not.

cedar quest
#

lmao

sand rapids
#

i need help

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so my height is 4'9 ( yes i know im short ) and when i put my height in vrchat im just floating

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what do i do to fix this

vocal shard
#

Haha, Shorty!

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I'm short aswell.

sand rapids
#

how tall are you

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because for me to touch the ground in vrchat i have to have it at 8 foot

vocal shard
#

5'5 Well it's considered short compared to most people I meet

sand rapids
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but i cant bend down and pick stuff up

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so how do i fix this

cedar quest
#

have you calibrated your floor height correctly

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what headset are you using

sand rapids
#

quest 2

cedar quest
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make sure your guardian is properly setup

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that your floor is where it should be :P

sand rapids
#

kk ill redo my guardian rq

cedar quest
#

don't let it do the automatic height calibration

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put a controller on the floor

sand rapids
#

ahh tysm!!

cedar quest
#

you're welcome ^^

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it's a simple issue to fix thankfully

lunar root
#

my untextured Shibuya crossing is uploading

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i think only a few buildings arent the default height

vocal shard
#

how to report user in game?

umbral reef
lunar root
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ok nvm it has no collisions

vocal shard
#

ingame you select them and a report button will be there somewhere

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mod reports better tho if you actually want infractions to be imposed

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well I noticed a "behavior" that its bannable

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record it

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just say what he did we aint gonna ban you over it

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I did it

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nsfw? n word? what

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nsfw

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does record it enought?

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make sure it gets there usrrname in there

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yes there is visible

#

Also I don't know if I am allowed to ask here, but in User Guildelines there is said "nudity is not allowed" but on loading screens there is note that "nudity and nsfw content isn't allowed on public worlds" what does that means?

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I mean, its generally not allowed, or its not allowed to upload any nude avatar?

lunar root
#

Blender GIS should add textures for walls :P

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i might have to individually get textures for them from google maps

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street view is gonna get a lot of use tonight unless it does do wall textures

vocal shard
#

can someone answer me that?

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Becuase I am confused

rigid moat
#

I'm short too @sand rapids i'm just 1 inch taller than you!

sand rapids
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yay

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happy to hear im not the only short person

vocal shard
#

where I can help with vrchat guidelines

vocal shard
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if they find out of course

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so they can use nsfw in private only?

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well I would like to say that but mods would say otherwise

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becuase no any rule says that in Guidelines

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yes but rules no

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its just said "not allowed|

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they be vauge on purpose

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but on loading screens, there is a mention that they can be used on private worlds

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so I don't know

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Keep it in privates and you will be fine

tame berry
#

NSFW is allowed in invite and invite plus

vocal shard
#

assuming your friends arent snitches

vocal shard
tame berry
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you just cant take pics or videos and share

vocal shard
#

Read the community guidelines.

lapis rose
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who wanna 1v1 box fight

vocal shard
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yeah its said so that nudity or posting anything with nudity made in vrchat even screenshots on Twitter will ban you

tame berry
#

exactly

vocal shard
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'c. your User Content could not be deemed by a reasonable person to be objectionable, profane, indecent, pornographic, harassing, threatening, embarrassing, hateful, or otherwise inappropriate.'

vocal shard
cosmic shale
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As far as I know, if you uploaded the nsfw avatar yourself as private, and you’re in a private world where anyone who’s there is fine with it, and none of what goes on there is shared publicly through media etc, then it’s okay

vocal shard
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but that means you need to upload it

cosmic shale
vocal shard
#

and there is said you can't upload nsfw things

lapis rose
#

how to make ur own avatar

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??

cosmic shale
warped owl
#

who's love VR CHAT?

vocal shard
#

well I think a vrchat team staff should know it

tame berry
#

@lapis rose I reccomend messing around on blender and unity but save the files on your system as you will need to redo the avatar a few times

vocal shard
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becuase most users says few different things

tame berry
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I learned that way and it is always what I reccomend

vocal shard
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Mods that ive talked too say its not allowed at all

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about uploading?

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so why there is note on loading screens

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I couldnt tell you

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I don't think nsfw should be allowed at all in my opinion. If it's in privates it's somewhat okay, As long as I don't have to see it but the guidelines say otherwise.

tame berry
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oh I cant post that message

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weird

vocal shard
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People disgust me these days KannaWut

vocal shard
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yeah becuase I knew someone who been publishing nsfw content as screenhots got a ban

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on Twitter

cosmic shale
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Not that I care too much about vague guidelines anyway, if they make them vague they don’t really deserve to matter

tame berry
#

Use commonsense and you will be fine

vocal shard
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Tw*tter

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yeah so whats actually staff thinks about nsfw

tame berry
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adults will be adults

vocal shard
#

I would simply to ask staff here but I don't think anyone is active here from staff

cosmic shale
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Well, just look at this chat, when the conversation was starting out no one had the same idea of how the rules worked when it comes to nsfw stuff

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Mainly because the popups in the loading screen conflict with how the tos is now

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Exactly

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That’s the popup that suggests in some form, nsfw is okay, just not in any sort of relatively public situation

vocal shard
#

but it said in guidelines that uploaing nsfw is illegal

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oh

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same as screenhots?

tame berry
#

adults are going to be adults they will play around with eachother

cosmic shale
#

Are you... blind?

vocal shard
#

given someone snitches

cosmic shale
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I’ll take that as a yes and move on

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Better that way since I don’t have to bother explaining shit to you

vocal shard
#

I mean, so uploading nsfw stuff is banned in vrchat, and "streaming" so doing a pics and publishing them?

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so nudity too?

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becuase its said so

#

ah

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perhabs

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ever uploading?

cosmic shale
#

Nudity isn’t nsfw if you work at a porn studio

vocal shard
#

sure but there is said that nudity is banned to

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but yeah I think I am safe

#

there is said nudity is banned too

solemn crag
#

If it’s in a Invite world the. Pretty sure it don’t matter unless your uploading public nsfw avatars

cosmic shale
#

I need to stop pretending everyone here will have sense
Because I keep coming here expecting there won’t be that one person, but there always is

solemn crag
#

Well yes sharing it

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Is banned

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So yes shooting porn in vrchat is bannable

umbral reef
# solemn crag Well yes sharing it

Even if you dont share, do it only in private, ask everyone if they agree and what ever else.
If someone reports you, you will get banned as its against the rules.

vocal shard
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I have problem with vrchat page

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where i can report it to moderators

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Why is coal overly defensive about it weirdchamp

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the link doesn't work

umbral reef
#

What link doenst?

vocal shard
#

Please contact our Moderation team via our Moderation Report Form, using the "MOD" category. We appreciate your efforts to help keep VRChat a safe place for everyone.

open crescent
#

we had this exact conversation yesterday lmao

vocal shard
#

the link from /community-guidelines doesn't work

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from vrchat site

solemn crag
#

Oh now that’s 100% bannable

vocal shard
#

Even in privates.

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It's bannable

solemn crag
vocal shard
#

Omg another one

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it said streaming

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but sure nsfw is generally banned

solemn crag
#

. I know

tame berry
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of course it would be it is to protect kids

umbral reef
tame berry
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but adults will be adults

umbral reef
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Where funny enough, you cna also report it

vocal shard
#

sure thy need to fix it

solemn crag
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But if you watch the loading screens it literally say any nsfw act in public or freinds + is banned

cosmic shale
open crescent
cosmic shale
#

I’m sure that’ll get you far in life

vocal shard
cosmic shale
#

Me being tired of dumbasses has nothing to do with it, but sure go off

solemn crag
#

Also how are you doing .

vocal shard
#

I don't wish to go off. I'd rather go onAE1_GWowoSmug

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/s

vocal shard
#

(fine)

solemn crag
#

I’m pretty tired

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And I have school so that sucks

vocal shard
#

Luckily I don't have school tomorrow. MegO

solemn crag
#

You lucky mf

vocal shard
#

Skipping school to go out and dye my hair as an "appointment" weSmart

solemn crag
#

Lmaoooo

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I should do that just dye my hair the same color blonde I am now

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But like just slightly a different shade

vocal shard
#

My hair is blonde and black rn LOL
"Chocolate and peanut butter"

solemn crag
#

OMG SAME

vocal shard
#

If I did a cosplay, Sure

solemn crag
#

My hair Is like dirty blonde with black

vocal shard
solemn crag
#

But it’s probably gonna stay that way cuz imma dude and it’s not really a thing in my family for Guys to dye their hair

vocal shard
solemn crag
#

Alright imma get pink hair

umbral reef
solemn crag
#

Let’s fucking go

vocal shard
solemn crag
#

Oop that’s the school bell have a nice day guys byeeeee

umbral reef
#

Pogs

vocal shard
#

Celty or someone else WraithCoolStory

#

Helmets can be taken off JaneThisIsFine

umbral reef
#

Celty can also go helmet less

inner cape
#

Don't take the helmet off, that will ruin the cosplay. 🤫

umbral reef
#

Just dont also remove the head then 👀

vocal shard
#

also, I heard people using a custom launchers for vrchat

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that is banned, isn't it?

umbral reef
#

Yes

vocal shard
#

For "Various reasons"

cosmic shale
#

Because of money

#

The Big Motivator

lunar root
#

i dont see the point in using a client

umbral reef
#

More that the glue sniffing part of this community installs anything and everything without knowing what it does
And there is nothing as easy as making a bitcoin miner that people install themself

vocal shard
#

Well, I mean I don't see using a custom launcher a d bad thing if it only improves the game, but it could damage it as well

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well mods can get people unlim favs which vrc would hate since they do that with vrc+

#

like Minecraft have custom launchers

#

plus only gives 100 lmao

#

anyway

#

is full tracking in vrchat cool

cosmic shale
#

I don’t have it, but yes
It is cool

vocal shard
#

its a waste of money

#

i have it

#

not many games implement it

#

sure its sounds like waste of money a bit, but you can dance

#

and its kinda cool to see people moving theirs legs

cosmic shale
#

Yeah but like
What game would even you use it for that’s not vrchat

vocal shard
#

mhm

#

yeah I was wondering about it

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pavlov which doesn't use it

#

so something kinda useless

cosmic shale
#

You wouldn’t gain anything by using it in pavlov though

vocal shard
#

for example, you can use Valve Index controllers in most games

#

using vr in games usually disables you

#

that tracks fingers, and its cool and well used in Half-Life Alyx

cosmic shale
vocal shard
#

how it looks like, you can bend your fingers naturally, or you can do this with usual controllers too as well?

#

like, half bend fingers

cosmic shale
#

hmmm
Well it’s much better finger movement with the index since it was made to track your fingers

#

Instead of half pressing buttons

vocal shard
#

I heard here that vrchat uses photon for networking

#

wouldn't be better to use mirror as networking as developer?

#

a open source networking

#

not suggesting its bad, but it costs money

#

I think it cost your servers to operate + pay for photon devs

#

becuase I was kinda interested in Unity engine too aswell

#

so anyway, you can use scripts with your avatars?

#

think so but only so many

willow meadow
#

hi

vocal shard
#

so

#

steam is just a laucher for vrchat?

light acorn
#

same with the other hundreds of other games that are on steam

cold talon
#

vrc is just a game on steam, nothing special about it

lunar root
#

Shibuya Crossing has no collisions

#

my world

#

is dead

honest forge
#

hellœ?

lunar root
#

i be adding a floor to my world

#

next up is making real buildings

vocal shard
#

sure but vrchat doesn't use steam at all

#

you probably can launch vrchat without steam

#

or could

lunar root
#

im gonna try finish shibuya crossing by tomorrow

light acorn
#

but yes you're slightly right

lunar root
#

you can test avatars/worlds by launching it from unity

light acorn
#

only real players launch vrchat through the website

lunar root
#

real players launch through unity even though it restricts the gameplay part a bit iirc

light acorn
#

like what?

lunar root
#

i dont think you can see others' avatars

#

can you launch through file explorer?

#

ohhh it worked

#

real players launch through file explorer

light acorn
#

As someone who's joined off people while launching through unity I can say that statement is wrong

lunar root
#

o ok

#

i did say iirc

light acorn
#

tru

lunar root
#

file explorer is the best way to launch

#

why did i install this game on my hdd

#

it uses like 3gb

#

im installing on my ssd for speeeeed

#

ok it on my old ssd

#

the one that's dying

light acorn
#

I wish I had an ssd :(

vocal shard
#

hah

#

ssd?

#

I have ssd

#

but games are on hdd

#

so its speen loudy

light acorn
#

that might be a problem

lunar root
#

my hdd is like 100mb /s

#

my ssd is 283 because i have sata 2.0

vocal shard
#

oh hhds have mb/s?

lunar root
#

but it's speeed

vocal shard
#

never knew it that hdds have speed to save

lunar root
vocal shard
#

so yeah thats poor

#

becuase hdds are nowadays 1 tb

#

ususally, so it must be old model

#

its a unit of measurement nothing else

cold quail
#

Is the avatars in the favorite tab not showing up for anyone else?

vocal shard
#

well no

#

its showing for me

cold quail
#

Hmm I might have to close and re open the game or restart again then

#

Thank you for responding though ^^

vocal shard
#

yeah I got bugs too sometimes

cold quail
#

Oop nvm its fixed now
Noice

spice minnow
vocal shard
#

And/or try a game restart.

night axle
#

Hiii

vocal shard
#

Ahoy.

#

can we just get a better ui already? i mean hitting accept on friends still doesnt even refresh unless you manually close your menu... this is the most basic QoL change

lunar root
#

at least it looks good

vocal shard
#

id rather something functional over pretty

slate sluice
#

mrbeast made a video on the game 😦

lunar root
#

that probably makes sense

vocal shard
#

imagine if the settings never refreshed when making changes

lunar root
#

idk really about any issues i only use it to join worlds and use avatars

slate sluice
#

now 10000000 toddlers are going to come to the game :/

lunar root
#

friends are for peasants

vocal shard
#

why do the devs get a pass on broken invites systems and friends list

#

thats what i want to know

lunar root
#

!online

floral flaxBOT
#

There are 16693 users in VRChat currently

slate sluice
vocal shard
#

i sent 8 invites in a row and my friend couldn't join on any of them and he still couldn't joun when he sent me requests

#

this happens with basically anyone when I'm in friends only worlds

lunar root
#

you could try asking on the canny about ui bugs

#

or reporting it on the canny

vocal shard
#

they just dont give a fuck about us

lunar root
#

idk i should probably shaddup

vocal shard
#

its all about money

lunar root
vocal shard
#

the only time mods talk to is to try to convince you otherwise

lunar root
#

it's a free game?

vocal shard
#

no its not

#

its early access

#

so in other words its a broken game

lunar root
vocal shard
#

it doesnt give them a free pass.

#

especially on something as basic as the menu

#

after 3 years

lunar root
#

they also let out a picture of a new ui iirc. idk if it's true i just saw it on here

#

ui

#

oops wrong thing

vocal shard
#

it's probably the same thing just different textures

lunar root
#

here

#

idk if it's a real change

vocal shard
#

so over a year ago they claimed a ui change and it never happened?

#

-w-

lunar root
#

i don't think it's fair to say they do it for money but i guess you're right about being stubborn to change the ui

vocal shard
#

the ui you showed looks fine, i wish theyd actually implement. it pisses me off the last updates claim to be ui fixes and yet theres no changes to the ui

lunar root
#

besides, money is the reason most people make software. not that it's an excuse

vocal shard
#

it makes me feel vrc is just doing a nintendo and lying on their changelog. "more stability"

lunar root
#

i gtg work on my vrchat map im making

regal furnace
#

fixes != changes

vocal shard
#

@regal furnace you ghosted me

regal furnace
#

a fix can e stuff like maybe making buttons slightly bigger or renaming some text

#

also sorry, i already said before i suck and blender and avatar related stuff ;-;

vocal shard
#

no you literally never spoke to me again

regal furnace
#

i tried my best but failed

vocal shard
#

i tried to talk to you about other stuff too

regal furnace
#

i am the biggest smoothbrain when it comes to avatars

#

i can do world stuff no problems, but once i touch avatars everything breaks

#

blender side of things

#

unity isnt the main problem for me

unreal verge
#

On the VRChat subreddit someone promotes his site with a fully functional Avatar Search and the site uses your VRChat account credentials to login. It also offered to fricking download the assets of the avatar. It's currently the second most top voted post there. Some mod needs to remove that post.

#

Almost 1000 upvotes

#

I did

granite sphinx
#

just what we need

unreal verge
#

A lot of people are praising him rn

granite sphinx
#

i dont get why peeps cant just make their own avatars

upbeat tundra
#

hi

granite sphinx
#

its not hard to learn

unreal verge
#

The login thing alone is extremely sketchy

granite sphinx
#

yea

upbeat tundra
#

hi..

granite sphinx
upbeat tundra
#

hi i get quest 2 this weekend and im getting vrchat who wanna ply this weekend

granite sphinx
#

welp

vocal shard
#

@granite sphinx with help i have one avatar i use only, the only crappy thing i never got eyes or hair to work

#

so the model just never blinks

unreal verge
#

He removed that download feature because he got asked to
Now some people want it back. Like get the fuck out of here ripper. Just yeet your pc out of the window.

granite sphinx
#

im willing to play with anyone who doesnt make me uncomfortable

upbeat tundra
#

i dont i just wave my hand and mostly try to make friends

granite sphinx
#

yes

vocal shard
#

@granite sphinx no idea. its just an mmd model, i could explain why i use it in dms, its long story

unreal verge
#

And if VRChat bans accounts on relationship then it only takes one person who used the site to get banned to cause a mass ban

upbeat tundra
#

ive alyways wanted vr chat

granite sphinx
upbeat tundra
#

im getting quest 2 so then i can finally play vr chat

vocal shard
#

@upbeat tundra its fun experience, only cons ive seen are limitations of quest version of vrchat and battery died after a couple hours for my friend out of box

#

other than it was fine

unreal verge
#

The limitations of the Quest version really suck unfortunately

vocal shard
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oh yes i know that all too well. its why i use rift s

unreal verge
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I play PCVR too

vocal shard
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for most people its quest or nothing unfortunately thou

vocal shard
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my friend i usually play with just uses it plugged in

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so he doesnt worry about battery

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you need either usb extender or long usb c cable

vocal shard
upbeat tundra
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i have 300 dollars for the 64gb so im getting that one im only getting vrchat job simulator help wanted or idrk

unreal verge
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I use Virtual Desktop

unreal verge
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Well, i can't. Wait. My Discord is bugging. Can't open profiles. Looking for update quickly.

vocal shard
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some people have been saying there perf is better on vd than wire gotta test that

unreal verge
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Updating discord currently

upbeat tundra
vocal shard
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virtual desktop is vd

unreal verge
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I still can't open profiles. Thanks Discord. I'm editing my security settings quick.

upbeat tundra
unreal verge
vocal shard
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doesnt let me still

unreal verge
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Mmh

vocal shard
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try adding me

unreal verge
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Send me your name+tag. Can't open your profile

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Discord Alpha on Android is cursed again lol

vocal shard
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it is well alpha

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author might of privated it happens

lunar root
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shibuya crossing is coming across nicely

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this world is gonna be so goooooood . since it's my second world, it's probably gonna no gonna be good

unreal verge
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I only edited worlds so far

lunar root
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my first used assets from the asset store only but this one is all me

unreal verge
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I recently bought lots of assets from booth

lunar root
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i just use free ones and make the rest myself

unreal verge
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Unfortunately the assets are heavy in avatars. Boosting the material count and particle count very high so i made a second version of the same avatars without the heavy features.

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Like one animation includes almost 40 materials lol

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I just like Particle stuff

lunar root
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ohh ok

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ive been resizing buildings for like 20mins now

pallid wraith
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Was just chatting to some friends, how long until we get a VRChat documentary?

noble depot
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There's a couple community-made VRChat documentaries o:

pallid wraith
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oh really? what are they about?

noble depot
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will probably be awhile before something ends up on Netflix though lol
not personally sure, haven't watched them

bold jay
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does anyone else find that when they make a friend on vrchat, after that one time playing you never speak to them again

patent osprey
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hey

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anyone have a discord server i can post image i want to show my cat

noble depot
patent osprey
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thx

pallid wraith
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yeah it happens, it's difficult to remember who people are or you just don't really connect with them again. Like a one off convo

bold jay
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yeah if they ever join me imma not remember any of their names

unreal verge
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No

lunar root
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why would you click a random person's link

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what

unreal verge
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Especially not because they're shortened

lunar root
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yeah. oh its deleted

pearl loom
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phishing links be like

noble depot
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in case it isn't exceedingly obvious, never click random links - and yes, especially shortened random links lol

lunar root
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i give up on shibuya crossing it's what I had pictured and I'm not gonna spend all year doing it too similar to irl

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i juts made the bigger buildings the same

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hey, it's better than how it was with no collisions earlier

vocal shard
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i am having a problem with vr chat

wet thorn
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@vocal shard when avatars don’t load for me anyways it’s usually my Wi-fi playing up so I just restart the game

lunar root
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does uploading content help level up yout trust rank?

main nimbus
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yes

lunar root
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ok thanks

mighty oxide
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hello any mods online?

analog venture
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How can I use the "third person" view in PC Version?

lunar root
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you could try looking in a mirror though

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kinda defeats the point of vrchat to have third person

analog venture
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ok I think this person is not very cool :(

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But thanks

rare storm
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I want third person vr

gleaming hill
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Why?

vocal shard
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lol

rare storm
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I want to break my mind

thorn crescent
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hi im new ;w;

vocal shard
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And ahoy everyone. ❤️

rare storm
thorn crescent
vocal shard
rare storm
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Why does everyone comment on my avatars eyes. I know I'm a derp but we aren't that rare

calm acorn
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do you guys know any asian rooms/worlds here? hehe

vocal shard
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I got a Chick Fil-a Kanna from a world of derps. vrcAevSip

thorn crescent
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does anybody play vrchat on quest i feel like everybody plays on pc here qwq

rare storm
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I play on quest 2

robust thunder
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Yush I do

vocal shard
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I will may be doing it less and less, but I have played it on Quest 2 a number of times.

thorn crescent
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ok good im not the only one-

vocal shard
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That is my only VR.

robust thunder
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I've got quest 1 though

rare storm
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I'm broke lol

vocal shard
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If we do not count my old Quest, anyway.

thorn crescent
rare storm
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Woo

wild oracle
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hey so i never messed with the camera features till now but what does the pin button do?

dusk nova
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i play quest 2 as well lol

vocal shard
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I doubt we actually have met in-game, but I feel like we have, dead_person. Probably due to name similarity with a recent mate named death.

thorn crescent
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the pc avatars are so cute but to bad to sad the quest people cant get them qwq

vocal shard
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There are some cute Quest-compatibles I know of.

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Try the Kon and Chill world.

thorn crescent
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ok

rare storm
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Yeah I'm trying to learn more about avatars so I can make some I like quest compatible

vocal shard
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There is a whole section on the bottom of the page list in that world for Quest-compatibles.

silver tusk
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i tried to make an account for VRChat on there website and it just doesnt work it keeps telling me there is an error ive been playing VRChat for a year now on my oculus quest and i want to make an actual account but i cant