server-feedback

[vale hound]

also quixel was just an example

[eager surge]

This server is for unreal engine, and while there are a few channels where other things are relevant I don't think this is meant to be a catch-all for everything epic does. Otherwise there'd be fortnite creative channels.
Quixel as mentioned has their own discord server and it doesn't make sense to have dedicated channels here - general DCC tool channels maybe but even that's iffy, and many of the existing channels already cover tools as they relate to unreal.
Cesium isn't by epic and while they seem to have a partnership, there's no reason to have something dedicated to a singular largely third party plugin. There are already places to discuss those that are more general.

[marble tusk]

Perhaps because Cesium uses Eurostile for its logo, like Unreal Engine and MetaHuman do

[marble tusk]

That's #visual-fx for you.

[sleek garden]

Hi, just wondering but is there a limit to how much times people are allowed to post the same thing in #volunteer-projects ? I couldn't find anything specific about this in the rules, but I keep seeing someone post the same post in there over and over which doesn't really sound to me like the purpose of the channel 🙂

[marble tusk]

#volunteer-projects is already difficult to take seriously, due to lack of in production incentives.
Also, I think limiting posts per people might cause issue on other board, as one might post multiple paid positions on the same team/company.

[sleek garden]

I wasn't asking for the bot to get limited or anything, I was just curious if someone wanted to do something about this specific case if it isn't allowed 😛

[drowsy oxide]

We typically treat job posts as spam if they are posted multiple times while still visible in the default “first page” history.

If you think someone is breaking the #rules or you have an issue with another user or their posts, please don’t hesitate to contact a Moderator directly.

We are here to help and we cant always monitor every message 24/7

[bold junco]

you guys want to put a ue4 c++ tutorial links post together and pin it in #cpp ? comes up a lot

[drowsy oxide]

Ill pin your post and you can add more.

[bold junco]

haha ok

actually, might be better if it were a mod's post

[drowsy oxide]

True

[bold junco]

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/onlinelearning-courses/converting-blueprints-to-c
Converting Blueprints to C++

https://learn.unrealengine.com/course/3750186
Unreal C++ Developer: Learn C++ and Make Video Games

[drowsy oxide]

Message me if you want some added.

😛

[bold junco]

will do

[simple crown]

Oh neat. Going to give these a look at. Thank you

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: traumatized#0493 was banned.

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: B4tt3rfly#6828 was banned.

[strong heart]

I think there should be #windows channel in platforms as I'm getting some windows specific issues that I'd like help with but there is no good place to ask

[strong heart]

well like id like to ask about how to get rid of the "windows protected your PC" message when launching an exe on a computer that doesnt have unreal installed, that would go in packaging?

[eager surge]

that could fit into #packaging or maybe #ue4-general.

[marble tusk]

Blame SmartScreen for that.

[strong heart]

Ye ik, but do u know how to get around it?

[marble tusk]

Unfortunately this is a thing with Microsoft Windows and exe signing, as SmartScreen is based on Microsoft's trust to you as a developer (hence why it complains about internet connection)

In other words, you have to manually advocate to your user to bypass SmartScreen or outright disable it.

[strong heart]

I don't mean to clutter up this channel but how can I sign the exes?

[marble tusk]

From what I heard, you send some moolah to MS to get the certification.

[strong heart]

Mmmm, is there some documentation or guide?

[marble tusk]

Not that I'm able to found. Documentation is quite sparse.

[strong heart]

Nice, well if you ever do it successfully or find docs, please send me a message, I tried to figure it out some years ago to no avail

[mental vessel]

Look up digitally signing for executables/drivers on Windows 10, there are devs as well paid certificates. And yeah, it is off-topic here.

[molten notch]

<@&213101288538374145>

[open radish]

Suggestion: add more languages such as Spanish to this server

[sand grail]

@open radish catering for different languages will cause a channel bloat, and harder navigation. The server being English is fine.

[gritty lotus]

plus you'd then need moderators for each language

which is pretty hard to do

[chilly ivy]

Indeed. We don't have the resources to facilitate multiple languages here, so we plan to remain an English language server for the foreseeable future.

[open radish]

Practically all engine server has more languages than English

[open radish]

What resources? You can simply use google translate

[gloomy mural]

In that specific case, time. 😉

[eager surge]

And... Inaccuracies. That's a horrible way to run a community.

You'd end up with channels either being ignored because who wants to bother translating every message that comes through, or constant miscommunications due to MT being pretty inaccurate (esp. with specialized topics such as programming).

[gloomy mural]

Yeah, Google’s pretty terrible with German…

[open radish]

Gdevelop server, for example doesn't has any mods that known Spanish, and they have a Spanish channel

[open radish]

With Spanish is accurate In most of cases

[gloomy mural]

There are a few channels here already that are pretty inactive, a spanish or other language channel may or may not suffer the same fate.

[open radish]

I know a lot of people who want to use unreal but don't know English and therefore need something in Spanish. In almost all engines there are channels in other languages, and there is not exactly a mod for every language and also except for some languages, they are not very inactive

[mental vessel]

I see how adding 5-10 channels would put a burden on the staff here. Even UE forums does not have languages, but continental separation which in half the cases seems barely used. English is ubiquitous enough to be the minimum common ground for understanding between each other.

I suppose if there are so many Spanish fans, they can have their own UE server, if they like 🤷‍♂️

[sturdy hedge]

#lounge

[calm pilot]

Not sure whether this was asked before, but would you consider adding a #chaos-physics channel to UE5 early access?

We can specifically cover the changes to the physics, chaos vehicles, chaos destruction, clothing, grooms, etc.

Right now it is all getting mixed up between #ue5-general and #legacy-physics

I am happy to divide my time between #legacy-physics and the new #chaos-physics channel 😉

[strong tide]

Chaos isn't specific to ue5 though? It's available right now in 4.

[calm pilot]

@strong tideUE5 uses Chaos Physics by default. UE4 uses PhysX by default, except 4.26-Chaos and 4.27-Chaos, available from the Launcher.

Currently both code-bases have both physics engines, so it is possible to revert to PhysX within UE5 by recompiling the engine.

The reason to keep the discussion around Chaos separated is to be able to cover all the new characteristics like async physics, networked physics, cloths, grooms, destruction, vehicles, etc. without mixing it up with PhysX.

At the moment when I get a question in #legacy-physics I always have to ask which engine version the OP is using and whether it is the Chaos version or not.

[mental vessel]

Guys, maybe time to think about adding some registration effort? 🤔
Like 1h before sending a first message, or click on icon, or answer a captcha 😄

<insert deleted messages>

[vapid rapids]

Suggestion: Let @leaden karma instant delete messages with @ everyone/ @ here pings and auto-ban a user once he wrote the 4th @ everyone / @ here ping within a minute.

Reason: This should be rather obvious as to why, there are so many scams nowadays and this simple feature would prevent 99,9% of the scams in this server

[chilly ivy]

We already require users to read and accept the rules before they can join and send messages. More screening options will arrive in the future that we may or may not take advantage of.

[mental vessel]

Transfer 1$ to an account.

[honest rock]

I've done that tons of times! Oh, or do you mean a specific account?

[analog burrow]

+1 for #chaos channel under ue5, since it's default atm.

[dire hound]

Autoban in general is the worst u can do on a server, we tried that in 2016 for a short time on our server and it was a mess and swapped over to auto mute/lockout ppl. Beside u can block the everyone ping per permission setting

[vapid rapids]

Would be also fine with a mute. (A mute would still come with the possibly which allows to continue DM scams)
Also, it's not about the ping itself (as it is already disabled in this server), but rather that pretty much all messages with a @ everyone / @ here are scams

[dire hound]

sadly link scam is still a thing and discord has not really solved this since over 5 years (instead they ban servers for developing game cheats and such stuff lol) ... In my eyes the biggest problem are the ppl who are not informed and click on that links. Also a lot of servers use bots which detect common known scam phrases and kick them instantly

[vapid rapids]

In my eyes the biggest problem are the ppl who are not informed and click on that links
The problem isn't just ppl which are clicking on those links cuz of missing knowledge.
You can totally click on such a link by accident (which happend already once to me)
Also a lot of servers use bots which detect common known scam phrases and kick them instantly
That's exactly what i suggest

[dire hound]

The problem isn't just ppl which are clicking on those links cuz of missing knowledge.
You can totally click on such a link by accident (which happend already once to me)
u can click also on random internet pages on the wrong links.
That's exactly what i suggest
Well yeah i partially agree with u, but a ban would prevent real humen who got hacked to rejoin later.

[honest rock]

One server I'm in kicks spammers and scammers. The scam bots never rejoin, but if it was a hacked guy that got his account back, he can rejoin (which did recently happen)

[dire hound]

which is good

[snow radish]

<@&213101288538374145>

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Sanchay#8264 was banned.

[fierce skiff]

It would be nice if Moderators added reactions to to the message if we ping them, just for us to know if we were helpful or if the offender removed the messages themselves

[mental vessel]

You can see the result of the report, why bothering them to put a "like"?

[deft raft]

It does actually only post the Banned message into the channel they were banned in.
So if you report it in another channel, all you might notice is that the messages are gone.

Which should be enough of course

Don't really want to go over every ping in every channel and react to it

[fierce skiff]

If the ping replies to the message, offender might notice (especially if we reply to the message) it and remove it beforehand, so I am not sure if that is enough to let us know

[ocean siren]

aside from not really being important?

you can reply to a message without pinging the author

[thorny plaza]

please split animation into its own category, e.g.

> Animation
  #anim-general
  #anim-blueprint
  #control-rig

[deft raft]

I'm not convinced that it has enough traffic to split it

[marble tusk]

Besides, those who have decent knowledge on Control Rig and willing to answer potential questions are (I argue) still barely a handful, myself included. Don't want those new channels to be just questions.

[thorny plaza]

ok wasn't aware that message frequency is your primary reason

for me it's that i like to backread on topics that i'm interested in, splitting those would just provide a more filtered feed

[sand grail]

i mean it maybe possible to split it into animation-tools and animation though that would need to be fleshed out.

animation-tools could be like control rig, anim sharing, anything else that is a tool (not familar will all the animation stuff in UE4 as it's not really by department)

[mental vessel]

<@&213101288538374145> ^

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: pinet713#8454 was banned.

[turbid spoke]

#released message

<@&213101288538374145> Wanted to know if posting links to NSFW game releases is against the rules?

[stoic goblet]

got it

yeah, NSFW links are against the rules

[turbid spoke]

@stoic goblet thx for clarifying 🙂

[stoic goblet]

i had already deleted their WIP post

but then they reposted it

so , strike time

[turbid spoke]

hm ok

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/890969278201864243/894314664282951710/dancing_rig.gif

[molten notch]

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Pancu422#6883 was banned.

[drowsy oxide]

Posting the same message in multiple channels is against the #rules regardless of channel or content.

[molten notch]

<@&213101288538374145>

[ember crow]

#networking is gone?

[drowsy oxide]

#multiplayer ?

[ember crow]

🤦‍♂️ right thanks lol

[molten notch]

lol i thot he meant like career networking

[mental vessel]

oo... message localization 😄

#unreal-news message

[chilly ivy]

Indeed. Dynamic timestamps that show in your time zone. 😎

I think it's one of the best features Discord released this year.

[bold roost]

I'm having issue with epic launcher and bridge on downloading assets and updating unreal engine

for reference

[drowsy oxide]

@bold roost This is a community run server. We arent able to fix issues with the Launcher.

[bold roost]

okay..thanks

[lilac radish]

I would like to discuss a strike i received

can someone contact me and clarify

[drowsy oxide]

Contact one of the Moderators if you have a question about a Strike.

[lilac radish]

Do i just DM them?

[drowsy oxide]

Yes

[lilac radish]

thanks

[sturdy rose]

I tried messaging the bot, and it said I couldn't. Is there a reason or am I just stupid?

[drowsy oxide]

You might need to be more specific than that?

Not sure what the issue is?

[sturdy rose]

I dm'd the bot and it said this "Your message could not be delivered. This is usually because you don't share a server with the recipient or the recipient is only accepting direct messages from friends."

[drowsy oxide]

or the recipient is only accepting direct messages from friends.

[marble tusk]

Do you have channel DMs disabled?

[drowsy oxide]

Your the recipient, you need to enable DMs from non-friends

[sturdy rose]

...I'm really really really stupid

thank you all for dealing with my ineptitude

[proud fiber]

I cannot see the various listings in the job-board. It only shows like this (see screenshot)

[sand grail]

@proud fiber is that for all channels?

[marble tusk]

Loads fine on my end.

[chilly ivy]

You need to enable link previews. User Settings → Text & Video → Show website preview info from links pasted into chat

[proud fiber]

that did the trick, thanks

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: fatsecret#4826 was banned.

[safe chasm]

Would be nice to use threads for helping people, always lots of conversations going on at once in help channels.

[marble tusk]

We already discussed this way back when it first introduced. Consensus led to not adapt it.

[safe chasm]

Ah shame, it's a nice way to handle it 😦

[marble tusk]

I did spy into ||Unity||'s discord channel, but I found not that much people use the thread feature as much as you might think. Not to mention how messy it looks in the archived threads.

[frosty flame]

Hey can we get a Tim emoji with the same energy as pls

[warm geyser]

Could even have Tim in a santa hat and use it when talking about all the giveaways.

[summer charm]

this may be wrong place to ask but getting no answers anywhere else. 4.26 is not repair won't work, as its not 'connecting', thoi 5 and 4.27 are fine,,are 26 sersvicesd OFF in lieu of 4.27 ?

[warm geyser]

This channel is specifically for feedback for this Discord server.

[dense garnet]

is Epic Games trying to delay J_'s microphone?

[molten notch]

?

[mental vessel]

Where are the mods, been 4 minutes of sales and there is no news?!

[fierce skiff]

Chill xD
It will be there xD

[mental vessel]

You a mod? 🤔
Ofc, I'm joking.

[chilly ivy]

I just got wind of it via email and posted in #unreal-news.

[mental vessel]

Leave it to the eager UE fans, they lighting fast :)

[teal dew]

I make a stupid game 🤓

[molten notch]

?

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: AvnishGameDev#3312 was banned.

[light echo]

@leaden karma $portfolio

[molten notch]

?

[light echo]

how do I get access so I can post on the hire-a-studio job board?

[molten notch]

U dm the bot

Should ask u follow up questions for the post

[chilly ivy]

Correct. Send a DM to @leaden karma and say $portfolio.

I'll update the instructions to say "DM" instead of "message" so it's more clear.

[marble tusk]

BTW (might be a bit too late for it) you should also mention that users must allow for server DMs so that Manny can reply back

[mental vessel]

We want a holiday logo!
Got inspired from: #lounge message

[autumn rain]

It's been kind of hard finding help here. Right now it looks like anyone asking for help in one of the topical channels just gets talked-over by the next person to have a problem in five minutes later. I've seen other servers handle this by having a series of Help Channels that get flagged as in-use when someone posts, and then get unflagged either after a set amount of time, or when the user who started the conversation types !done

[rocky nest]

Yeah cool but how about this other problem I'm having that's important-er 😜

Would threads not solve the issue though? Do have to enforce replies going into threads, but I haven't had much experience with Discord threads, more so Slack and the likes.

[autumn rain]

Hmm I hadn't thought about threads in cojunction with the problem to be honest. Might be worth a shot, but I'm not sure how that'd be managed.

[marble tusk]

Consensus already made to not use thread system in this server.

I spied into ||Unity|| server and not much people use the thread system to the max there.

[autumn rain]

I was about to say, it also looks like I can't make threads here anyways :b

But like yeah. Look in #blueprint right now, it's sort of a shit show :b

[marble tusk]

For comparison, Thread in ||Unity|| server and how the neighbour channel is going

[rocky nest]

Hey maybe the new UE Hub thing makes this redundant for random troubleshooting and the likes

[autumn rain]

Yeah. That's where the limited-number of Help channels that are marked as "In use" or not come in handy.

If all eight Help channels are full, just wait your turn.

[autumn rain]

Maybe. I've not heard of the UE hub before. I've tried the forum never gotten any responses there.

[rocky nest]

Oh can you not convert a server message into the start of a thread? Otherwise the issue there is people replying outside of threads, while all related conversations should go into the thread (if possible)

[rocky nest]

Just sounds weird and pointless but IDK 🤷

https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/the-next-steps-for-the-ue-community-the-ue-dev-hub-working-title/264696?u=sk0gg

If UE had documentation at Unity's quality this server's traffic would be cut down to 20% lol

[autumn rain]

Yeeeaaaaaah. I very highkey wish I had spent my time learning Unity. But at the time I was learning, Unity had basically no self-education options.

Oh. So. The Hub just sounds like "We're bored and want to nuke our help-forum for the second time"

[marble tusk]

No one's stopping you from learning ||Unity|| anyway. Even back then collective docs for ||Unity|| were everywhere.

[rocky nest]

XKCD, but the competing standards get broken in half each time a new one pops up

[autumn rain]

Lmao yeah I forgot about that one.

Extra juicy this time because now it's multiple systems within the same company :U

[rocky nest]

If you want to escape that, WETA engine is definitely not the way hah.

I wonder if I've missed some community built documentation for UE that doesn't suck (or rather, is not written for engine programmers)

[marble tusk]

I feel like myself being only few prople who are more frequent on the eastern time zones going to frick everyone else up, as I'm not the BP guru.

[autumn rain]

Yeah, I don't need to take on a second new game engine lol. Already trying to learn GMS2 for serious personal projects. UE4's basically just for income via asset kits, and when I want to play around in 3d.

[marble tusk]

Felt like the whole server is in my hand but I won't chime in if I don't know the answer.

[autumn rain]

As for community built documentation. . if it exists I've yet to find it.

Anyway. We've derailed massively..

[rocky nest]

Wouldn't be a problem if we had threads, just saying 😎

[marble tusk]

I guess you just have to be more patient @autumn rain

And I'm saying that because I'm not always had the editor at hand to crosscheck nor knowing/predicting every bit of the engine by heart.

[autumn rain]

I am plenty patient with my own problems. My point here was to bring up that the current system for seeking help on this server is frustrating, and results in users trampling over one another, and to propose a solution I've seen work on another gamedev server :b

[marble tusk]

If I know the answer immediately, I would chime in. If I don't, I won't until someone else fill in at later time.

[rocky nest]

Yeah I really dislike the amount of questions that boil down to either looking up documentation, or just testing something for half a minute.

But it's the same story for most hobbies or professions.

[autumn rain]

Mmhm. But I was not asking for answers here. Or asking for someone to come help solve my problem quick. I was just giving feedback on the state of the server.

[rocky nest]

Nah I agree fully, there's 15k people online. The server is only equipped to deal with EG 1 animation issue at a time, which is silly.

[deft raft]

If only Threads wouldn't be so shitty implemented

And just be like Slack

I will bring attention to your suggestion, Kristy, thanks!

[autumn rain]

Thank you!

[rocky nest]

Don't be silly, the UnrealSlackers group could never exist on Slack 😅

I'm guessing there's a reason for the move towards Discord, but this seems to be one of the more unfortunate side effects of that.

[marble tusk]

Also I'm going to mention it's somehow more difficult to play videos on mobile Discord than on PC.

[autumn rain]

. .. the group name now makes a lot more sense :U

[marble tusk]

Now I feel guilty for not able to answering every question. Gah, why am I not a God.

[rocky nest]

Epic should be hiring evangelists and community guides and the likes if they want Hub to take off. You already help like 50% of GMT 4+ peeps, seems like haha

[autumn rain]

Don't feel guilty over not being able to answer every question. It's better to shut up and stay quiet and let the people who're able to help do their thing :b

Anywho back into my hole I go.

[deft raft]

Reason we moved to Discord back in the day was that Slack, for the amount of users, is €€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€

[deft raft]

Epic has evangelists. Not sure how many atm, but they stocked up before Corona iirc

[rocky nest]

I know, they even have a few in Australia which is nice.

Not really sure what their role is, but I haven't really noticed one answering questions here or in the forums. May well have missed it though.

[deft raft]

Yeah that's not their role

They are more traveling around and going to events

maybe making some videos for youtube

[rocky nest]

Fair enough, but with a few other software products I've used, the evangelists are involved in helping answer questions within user communities. I've seen devs chime in here though, from time to time.

Every company defines roles differently, but IMO they need a community SOS liaison, so dev time is freed up, and the lack of documentation is not such a sore point.

[marble tusk]

I have yet to see Epic evangelists (at least those that I know) chime in this server 🤔

And not to mention this is not official Epic channel, rather a community run (but Epic approved) one

I'm not inclined to think them evangelists have the obligation to hang around here.

[rocky nest]

Evangelists was just a random term I threw around, but lots of companies much smaller than Epic have people running around helping the community, and forwarding pain points to the dev team as appropriate. Their job title can be 'Epic AF Helpers' for all I care, but it would be nice for the UE community to have those.

Re: this not being an official channel, it's basically the UE community. Forums are relatively dead, to the point I've seen more devs chime in here than in the forums.

[mental vessel]

There is already UDN. I don't think it makes sense they pay ppl answer here all the day.

[undone citrus]

I think a contenet creation/help channel for materials would be nice, i never know which one to ask help in for them

[marble tusk]

#graphics

[marble tusk]

It's all mentioned in #more-resources btw

[undone citrus]

Oh ok, that clears things up

[marble tusk]

I think we should add warning for !stream command that it has to be via DM to Manny. I see quite a lot of people confusingly posted the command in server chat to no avail.

Similar to how Manny auto delete !gameidea commands

[chilly ivy]

This will be addressed in v2. The command will be usable anywhere.

v2 will allow Manny to send responses that only you can see, so it won't disrupt anything.

[plucky hawk]

Anyone ever recommended a #game-design channel? 🤔

[mental vessel]

lol

[marble tusk]

🤫

[plucky hawk]

147 results

Alright 😄

Yea explains a lot

[astral lily]

#asset channel where there are free assets and skys and free things for ureal engine. this server is rlly good server too

[marble tusk]

#unreal-news would be updated with the free for the month stuff.

[astral lily]

ooo that will be perfect chanel for it tbh

every week or month they give free model or naimation or free ocean/sky

or asset

[chilly ivy]

We share this every month already. 🙂

Here’s this month’s free content, for example:
#unreal-news message

[astral lily]

Really?

YOO THATS SICK

[honest rock]

the marketplace has a lot of free assets, with monthly additions

[rocky nest]

Getting in early - #verse

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Ethan C#2609 was banned.

[autumn rain]

Any progress on the help-channel issues?

[sleek warren]

is there really an issue with them?

if one asks in right channel (so it's on-topic) and people don't answer, it's probably either:

• nobody knows the answer to it
• one asked something so trivial that simple google search would give the answer anyway
• there's too much traffic and your question gets buried - which means you can just ask again later

[autumn rain]

Yesterday two minutes after I posted my question here, I watched someone post a question and then a literal two seconds later someone ELSE posted a huge wall of a question that moved the first person's question all the way off my screen.

Some questions take more than a minute or two to think about or formulate an answer - I've watched multiple other people steamroll eachother in this amount of time asking questions when someone already asked one ~3-4 minutes ago.

And then there's the issue of when 2+ people are trying to get questions answered at the same time, the blueprints channel just becomes a bloodbath of trying to keep track of who's asking and responding to what.

[sleek warren]

that's typical in big groups like these, you can't really avoid it other than by asking your questions on more specific channels

[autumn rain]

There's ways to avoid it, I've seen it done on other servers, and proposed their solutions here.

[sleek warren]

the idea of getting some one-on-one help channels is totally out of the question, who do you think would go there help people for free?

[autumn rain]

There's not really a 'more specific channel' for asking for help on blueprints than the blueprints channel

[sleek warren]

only reason these channels to even work is to have some motivation for more advanced users to stick around since they can learn thing or two while being there... I doubt most people asking for help here just stick around to help others later

if there were clear generic channels with some [reserved] flags... that's literally slave work for people, it wouldn't work on server at this size

[autumn rain]

Anyways.

[sleek warren]

how I see it, it would just spoonfeed and teach new people to feel even more entitled than they tend to be here. bigger issue on these groups are that people requesting help often just don't care about others, or care to do any preliminary research before demanding for help, so throwing extra rules how and where they can ask their questions can be quite iffy. people seem to be unable to even read the channel topics so would be very cautious before adding even more complicated mechanics

many don't like discord for it's realtime nature and I do get it's not for everyone, but there are other places where you can ask help too like forums or answerhub (if it still exists), but at the same time, topics get drowned there too after new topics come up. how quickly that happens depends on the size of the community but it's inevitable. so... I guess better rather be patient and do occasional bump if nobody notices..

[deft raft]

If only threads weren't shitty implemented. Stays my go to answer for this atm

[sleek warren]

you mean because they expire or because the branch on wrong place in channel timeline?

[deft raft]

Multiple things but yes

[sleek warren]

for me the auto archive thing is the biggest killer

[deft raft]

All this could be solved by having threads per question

But not with the current thread implementation

With slack it would be such an easy ride

You could combine it with a simple ✅ emoji on the main post from the creator if their question is answered etc

[sleek warren]

it wouldn't fully solve the issue though, people want to use these channels for free discussion around the topics too, forcing everything to go to threads would kill more relaxed conversation around the topics

[deft raft]

And could easily see all open questions and choose to participate by joining the thread

Yeah maybe

[sleek warren]

and if you separated help and discussion channels, majority would just mute help ones

I know I would

[deft raft]

But that can be solved by making a channel for open discussion

I wouldn't though

I would probably mute the discussion one before the help one

[sleek warren]

but you are a kind and better person than average user :p

[deft raft]

I think the average user is here to ask for help and not to help

[sleek warren]

yes

[deft raft]

Which is fueling the problem

Idk. I also think that if one needs desperate help then there are more help desks available than discord

[sleek warren]

I still don't see fundamental issue for questions getting drowned occasionally... user can just have patience and try to ask again on some more quiet moment to get the visibility

[deft raft]

But even in forums you have your question spammed away by new ones

And you can't bump those either

[sleek warren]

yeah, that's what I meant by the earlier comment

[deft raft]

At least not before 3 or so days

[sleek warren]

it's bound to happen when you have a big community, regardless how you structure it

[deft raft]

Yop

[turbid spoke]

I have a teaser trailer with a bit of sexyness in it. Would say its SFW but rather get a review on it before I post? 😄

[chilly ivy]

Send me a DM so I can take a look.

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: DarkDev#0103 was banned.

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Kashimoto#7982 was banned.

[finite wren]

There are quite a few folks interested in Verse.
Is it possible we have a dedicated channel?
I don't want to make Verse discussion like a random chat.
It is going to be very important pillar of UE5. Thanks.

[drowsy oxide]

Once UE5 releases we will update the channel list to include appropriate channels specific to UE5. For the time being as it is still only in Early Access the channel list will most likely remain the same.

[eager surge]

Verse has only so much as been acknowledged as existing. Aside from random speculation, what point would the channel even have right now?
Maybe once it's actually in a preview.

[chilly ivy]

They haven’t even formally announced it, and no one can use it. A channel may come when the time is right.

[marble tusk]

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[mint halo]

@open radish here is fine

[open radish]

I going to talk to the bot developer

thx for help

[storm spear]

Maybe I'm blind, but a specific megascans channel could help, considering how much content there is now

[storm spear]

Had no clue there was one, thanks Lorash!

[peak sentinel]

Trying to remove a Job that was solved, but it looks like im using the instructions wrong?

[drowsy oxide]

@peak sentinel @leaden karma seems to be having some issues at the moment. Please try again.

[peak sentinel]

yeah he ended up answering later smh

[drowsy oxide]

If it doesnt work i can delete it manually for you.

[peak sentinel]

So all good, but thanks for the help

[drowsy oxide]

👍

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Jendi#9038 was banned.

[gritty lotus]

What's the server position on 'P2E' (Pay to Earn) stuff being advertised here? It's all very dubious stuff, and whilst it's not always strictly illegal, it's still pretty much always multi-level-marketing pyramid schemes, which does not seem like something that should be allowed?

[chilly ivy]

Can you give an example of the kinds of projects you're referring to?

[gritty lotus]

To use a specific example that's currently in the press, Peter Molyneux's new game 'Legacy' - but P2E is a specific funding model, almost always associated with cryptocurrencies and blockchain.

Legacy is a literal pyramid scheme

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-12-13-peter-molyneux-is-creating-a-blockchain-business-sim

In this game the first users can buy 'Land NFTs' with currency, that allow them to 'open a business' which can generate currency through playing the game (ostensibly, we don't know the details) - but it also gives them the ability to give/sell business keys allowing other users to 'open a business' in exchange for taking a cut of their profits. Those who 'open a business' can also give/sell keys to 'open a business', and so on.

the in game currency LegacyCoin is a cryptocurrency

so it can be traded for real money

my gut says that whilst these things are not actually illegal, they should probably not be allowed, since it seems really quite ethically dubious

[chilly ivy]

That may be. Many games are arguably "ethically dubious". The tricky party is deciding where to draw the line if it's not illegal.

Frankly, we haven't seriously considered a policy for dealing with the promotion of such projects.

There are many games that I find ethically dubious but would not ban from being promoted or discussed in this community.

It's certainly worth exploring the issue for 2022, seeing how often it's being discussed lately.

[gritty lotus]

I'd imagine examples like the above will become illegal as soon as individual states start catching up with them tbh

all it will take is a ruling that defines cryptocurrencies as assets

[marble tusk]

This ↑
I felt like many people implies that rule #5 mainly goes with pirated software, or something they don't own by legitimate means. In many cases, people attempting to unpack / rip assets or underground modding do buy the game legally, thus they thought not constitutes under piracy, but the action constitutes under unauthorised reverse engineering. (I found several instances of underground modding on some games still require legitimate copy as opposed to pirated copies)

[sand grail]

Thing is, this server is not a game modding server, ripping assets, etc is not what is discussed here. There are other discords/forums for such activities

[marble tusk]

And then some people unknowingly asked to this server about how to do (underground) modding with UE4 game that they play, especially when we had a brief influx on the question due to FNAF Security Breach game few days ago.

At least having more explicit mention about this server being "intended for developers/creators using UE and does not provide unauthorised modding support" might help a bit.

[eager surge]

I'd phrase it as "modding for released games". The problem isn't legality or it being unauthorized (as games with explicit mod tools are still not really on topic unless it's general engine questions), it's that modding in general isn't the point of the server (aside from implementing support in your own game).

[gritty lotus]

it's fairly simple really - we can talk about how to do things in the engine and tools - but we shouldn't direct people how to reverse engineer or disassemble things, and should encourage them to look for that stuff in the respective game modding community instead

[dry linden]

personally against P2E and NTFS, but Legacy sounds exactly like second life? Except the currency is crypto, also there is no indication that legacycoin can be traded for real money, unless all cryptos can be traded for cash, not sure about that. There have been a few crypto games that have been advertised here, the couple I remember broke the rules instantly by sharing their discord link without permission. If they have an unreal project, and follow the rules to post a link in released, then it wouldn't be fair to discriminate. It would probably just be something that is secretly frowned upon by most of this community, and probably won't be an issue since it would just get ignored

[gritty lotus]

the whole point of P2E is that it can be traded for real money

Second Life isn't so much a game as a virtual world, so there are some distinctions, in that it has an economy that is pegged to a real economy, and everything that happens inside it is essentially people paying for goods and services created within that virtual world

Legacy and other NFT games are games, where you buy-in with cryptocurrency and are given things you can sell for real money in that game, but none of them really have any kind of goods/services layer

nearly all P2E games are literal pyramid schemes, just like Legacy - the biggest one at the moment (Axie) requires an initial player buy-in of hundreds, if not thousands of dollars to be able to play, so you essentially either front that money yourself or rely on an existing player giving you the means to start playing and allowing them to take a cut of all your winnings

[leaden karma]

:triangular_flag_on_post: Cobaken_komynist#2386 received strike 1. As a result, they were muted for 10 minutes.

[static slate]

Hi, I'm not sure this is the right place to post this, but I just received a message from an account called Wezezy#4217 with a suspicious looking "Job offer". Discord doesn't list any servers as common with that user, but considering my Discord usage I'd be surprised if he didn't just randomly message users from this one. I'm not sure if it requires any action, but I figured it'd be useful to have this noted here in case it becomes a problem in the future 🙂

[slim agate]

same thing just happened to me but user was sherry#9953

[summer minnow]

same from someone else entirely (but I closed the message and I'm not sure I can find it back)

[drowsy oxide]

We are aware of the issue, we are currently experiencing a large influx of what seem to be Bot or compromised accounts.

They join the server, send DMs to people and then leave immediately.

[timid verge]

just sent a job offer as well fyi

marked as spam and moved on, lol

[open radish]

Theres one that sent me a message minutes ago thats still in the server

ludha#1945

[sand grail]

Yeah we had a huge influx of joiners

[dry linden]

Have you seen Captcha.bot?

Would probably help filter a lot of those out

Also there are those phone number verify bots that could help also

[open radish]

only way that would work now is have anyone without a role verify or try to guess who isnt a bot and manually give the ma role

[dry linden]

Well if accounts are joining, spamming and leaving, you could add some verify bots that would help reduce the joining frequency

[open radish]

verify bots wouldnt help now because you would have to verify anyone thats already here also, maybe you mean an anti raid type bot? verification also wouldnt help because people can still send DMs without verifying

[dry linden]

You can make the channel when a user joins for the first time an empty role-only channel that doesn't show any other users

remove that channel after verify

[open radish]

yes but you can still send DMs without verifying, you dont need to see channels to mass dm

[dry linden]

Like I just said above, you can prevent that by putting new users in an empty channel that is not public

[grand lake]

$15/hour for a FULL TIME position as a level/graphics designer or game developer

Even if it weren't spam, who the fuck would take that

"Full Time" "6-8 hours per day, consistently" "Flexible schedule, set your own hours!"

Come on guys, pick one

[shadow charm]

User Eurottoxin #5431 sent a message, mutual server is this one, and I'm assuming that since Discord thought it was a spam message, then more than likely they were. I never looked at their messages, and just deleted it/blocked the user.

[tulip quiver]

😆 Tempted to open the link in a VM, but also I don't feel like spinning up a VM

[last quail]

so is the server set to only allow verified phone numbers to post permanently now? I know some regulars can't post now

[regal canopy]

I just had to verify my phone number again to post.

[tulip quiver]

Literally communism /s

[last quail]

some people are not going to want to attach a phone number, that's why I'm asking

we're going to loose some of the community if it stays that way

[tulip quiver]

Meh, I don't see an issue with requiring a phone number

[last quail]

there are plenty of valid reasons

[tulip quiver]

If they don't like it, that's on them

There are?

Legit wondering

[chilly ivy]

Sorry for the disturbance, folks. Thanks for keeping us informed. I've temporarily raised the verification level to Highest, which requires a verified phone number.

[last quail]

was only asking because some regular members of #cpp asked me what was going on in DMs

[chilly ivy]

I plan to bump it back down when I'm confident we're in the clear.

[tulip quiver]

The fist has spoken

[last quail]

it's not like Discord is a great place to trust personally identifying info, if that needs explaining I hope you never need to worry about getting doxxed

[tulip quiver]

I have to give my student loan servicer my SSN every time I log in, and I feel more confident with Discord's internals than their 20 year-old bs

But I could be wrong 🤷‍♂️

[last quail]

Discord is a javascript app in a chrome sandbox, I wouldn't trust that with anything

but typing in your whole SSN is stupid too

last 4 digits I can understand

[grand lake]

At least Discord hasn't had an API leak that revealed loads of "private" user information like fucking GOOGLE managed to

When a mega corp like Google can fuck up like that, that's where I hope most people would realize their data will never be 100% secure

[chilly ivy]

15 minutes with no new member joins. Hopefully this holds. 🤞

[tulip quiver]

Will someone please open the link in a container lol. I'm curious

[chilly ivy]

Stay vigilant, folks. There should be a Report button in DM chats now, so use that if you get a job offer or anything similar that you don't recognize. Don't bother engaging them.

[grand lake]

It's just a Google form, link is legit, at least in the DM I got

Unless there's a new zero day injectable in Google forms that can siphon your information lmao

[chilly ivy]

Did you actually open it? Phishing scams are very clever with URLs and even front end interface these days.

[placid dawn]

links are safe to open, its what you do after you open it that can screw you

[grand lake]

Yeah it's fine, I have throwaway hardware for things like that

[tulip quiver]

I may or may not have fallen for the "vote for my CS:GO team so we can qualify for a tourney" phishing scam

The embedded window was very convincing

[grand lake]

I really can't advise that's it's anything like a phishing scam

I'm pretty sure it's just a classic case of tricking inexperienced people to do work and then not pay them

[placid dawn]

@chilly ivy there are alot of steps you can take to make it practically impossible for these bots to gain access to the server. May i ask why you are not considering it?

[tulip quiver]

Truly big brain

Tbh I didn't think that software engineers could fall for stuff like that

Maybe artists / designers

[grand lake]

I'd imagine the only people to fall for it would be "software engineers" in quotations

[tulip quiver]

Advanced blueprint expert

[grand lake]

As in actually just hobbyists that want to make it a living but don't know where to start and are easily trickable

[trim chasm]

I opened the link briefly without thinking lol, it did look like a plain old google form but I closed it rather quick too

[tulip quiver]

For artists, you just have to throw the magic e-word at them

[placid dawn]

honestly, unreal slackers may be one of the dumbest servers for these people to target, besides tech communities. Not exactly the easiest ones to fool 😛

[tulip quiver]

exposure

Ehh my family tricked me into writing some software for them, promising that they would pay me

Because surely family wouldn't scam me, right?

[placid dawn]

implement a killswitch that turns the software into a virus 😄

ohh granny lost her computer, ait x10 the price

[tulip quiver]

It was a web app. They understood tech so poorly that they didn't realize I could just...shut down the AWS resources 😆

[chilly ivy]

I think it's unfair to assert I haven't considered whatever mitigation strategies you have in mind. That being said, I appreciate what you're saying. Frankly, we have limited resources and are very rarely targeted, so I tend to prioritize features that my team needs, or that the community would enjoy.

More can certainly be done, both proactive and reactive. Manny v2 accounts for this and will be better equipped to handle situations like these.

[marsh obsidian]

Man they completely fooled me. I don't have a job due to Covid, so $20 an hour to program BP's sounded amazing. It was a full info job offer so i filled out the app on their Google link. Everything seemed legit, and it only really asked for basic info and some portfolio links. That's it. Not really sure what they're after? I feel dumb for falling for it...

[orchid pulsar]

Funny how perspective can differ. Offering only $15 an hour was a big red flag that something was weird about this...

But I just skimmed it, didn't notice it was for a graphic designer until I looked into the conversation about it here

[trim chasm]

They asked for a game developer as well, as two separate positions

and I'd also take a $15 an hour gamedev position in a heartbeat rn lol so I clicked out of curiosity. Didn't fill it out since it seemed a bit sketch, glad I didn't.

[marsh obsidian]

Same here. if someone offered pretty much anything to do what i love doing, i would take it right now. $20 an hour seemed more than reasonable

[last quail]

they pay $15 an hour to work at Popeye's (fast food fried chicken) here in Maryland

[placid dawn]

There are alot of different bots with different feature sets that prevent people from seeing other members until they've been verified.

But a rather simple solution that requires none of that, is disabling access to every channel by default, only granting new users access to an "entry" channel, with just one goal, to click a ✅ . Afterwhich, you will lose access to said channel, and gain access to the rest of the server.

This makes it such that new users wont be able to see other members, until they've clicked it.

Which is super easy for a malicious actor to bypass, however, adding that very simple step may prevent alot of automated swarm bots.

Being an admin on such a large community, i assume you already know how to set this up. If not, i could run you through it, if it seems interesting.

[chilly ivy]

Thanks. I do know about it but I'm not interested. It wouldn't have prevented what happened today anyways, unfortunately.

[placid dawn]

Am i mistaking, if i assume it was a large number of accounts with either the same name, or random numbers, spamming users through DM?

i didnt actually catch it, i assumed it based on seeing it in other servers

cause unless the bots have a way of figuring out that you need to click a reaction on a comment, then i do think it would stop the attack entirely

^ no more than such, to see other users

[chilly ivy]

Unfortunately bots can DM members as soon as they join the server, and as long the member is accepting DMs from server members.

They don't need to "see" the members list because they can fetch it via the API.

[placid dawn]

ah that'd render it useless..

[chilly ivy]

Yeah. 😦

[placid dawn]

i do find it odd that discord has yet to address it, seems like an easy thing to catch, a user joining a server, and hard spamming alot of members at once should raise flags

its been an issue for some time

[chilly ivy]

The programs that generate these bots are more sophisticated than they used to be. Thankfully these ones just sent DMs to people instead of blasting the server.

It could have been much worse. Many attackers will spam hundreds of DMs or fill every channel with hundreds of messages until they're kicked.

[trim chasm]

Discord has a rather new built in feature for this, its called "Membership screening" or something like that, forces users to scroll through the rules, tick a checkbox and hit accept till they can do something.

[chilly ivy]

We have that enabled.

[trim chasm]

but of course, that wouldn't stop them from being able to send DM's I assume

[trim chasm]

Yeah thats good, then I don't think there is much else you guys could've done tbh that won't create a huge barrier of entry on the server

Which for good reason isn't ideal

[chilly ivy]

Indeed. I try to maintain a balance between safety and usability. This philosophy won't change with Manny v2, either. It will mostly contain new tools to help us react more quickly and efficiently instead of putting up more barriers.

[trim chasm]

Yeah its a good approach to have. As well some of these bots that come around Discord servers are quite hard to catch so its not really much you can do but be there when it happens tbh

[native portal]

It's tough, any added screening also makes it harder for legitimate users. I run some rather small communities and even with those I was shocked by the number of legitimate users who had issues when I enabled things as simple as requiring a phone number or a captcha DM from a bot.

[chilly ivy]

Yeah. Those features are surprisingly significant barriers for a lot of people, especially those who are new to Discord.

[stoic edge]

Just a little feedback, do not punish people for their mistakes in group.

Mistakes can be happen yea?

[deft raft]

Well, it works like this: You read the #rules and make sure you follow them. If you don't follow them, you gain a strike.

If you reach 3 strikes, you get banned. Strikes run out after time, so you can reset to 0.

[stoic edge]

So if someone dont know the rules or forget the rules this group will be punished

Yea got it , its fair

[deft raft]

Not knowing the rules is not an excuse. The very first thing you get on the welcome screen when joining is the rules.

If a person chooses to not read them, then that's their fault.

[stoic edge]

I accept its my fault

[deft raft]

No worries, it's nothing personal, the strike will vanish again (:

[stoic edge]

Thanks 👍

[quasi prairie]

Wow I clicked the drive.google.com link on that DM youve all received. Just out of curiosity, didnt fill or click any link, I hope didnt get infected through a security hole or something 😕

[chilly ivy]

Since you didn't enter any information on the site you're probably fine.

[quasi prairie]

Thanks, I was thinking that but in any case thanks for reporting it

[marble tusk]

If you got one, please report it to Google as well to take it down.

[quasi prairie]

Done

[raw igloo]

i just noticed that your vanity url ..cord.gg/unreal-slackers is no more, and i have no idea where you hide that information in your various channels, are you please kind enough to provide your new current discord url please?

ah found it its in guide... but the url is out of date there too 😉

[chilly ivy]

Good catch! Forgot to update it there. Now it should be good.

[raw igloo]

cool, thank you ❤️

[chilly ivy]

Where else besides #more-resources did you see the old URL?

I didn't think I had it listed anywhere else.

[raw igloo]

on our graphics programming server 😛

[chilly ivy]

Oh hahah. OK.

[raw igloo]

happy new year 🙂

[chilly ivy]

Sorry about the inconvenience. Happy New Year to you as well!

[raw igloo]

no problem at all

[maiden crag]

This has probably already been discussed, but I'm curious why this server doesn't have support for threads like others do?

[marble tusk]

It's already been discussed twice.

[chilly ivy]

We discussed threads a few times and decided against enabling them.

You can search this channel to read through the discussion if you're interested.
in:#server-feedback threads

[maiden crag]

Thanks I'll do that 🙂

[chilly ivy]

They're cool, but they seem to work better on smaller servers.

We might use them in special cases in the future, like comments on announcements or perhaps to categorize feedback here, but currently no plans to enable them in all the support channels.

[wooden helm]

Is anyone able to get the "Export Anim Sequence" blueprint to work? Does anyone have an example of it working? It keeps crashing whenever I use it

[chilly ivy]

This channel is for giving Unreal Slackers feedback on how we can improve. Try #blueprint or #animation for support.

[wooden helm]

Oh, thanks

[acoustic temple]

The whole verify your phone number bit doesn't work for me in discord, I have absolutely no personal info in discord.

[chilly ivy]

That's fine. We removed the restriction already.

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: orld#4378 was banned.

[rocky nest]

#modular-gameplay-features and #verse?

[marble tusk]

Hold the horses, UE5 weren't even released yet, and Verse is still something upcoming tied to Fortnite.

[rocky nest]

Lumen, Nanite, metasounds got their own channels 🐣

Don't think Verse is Fortnite specific at all though, just seeing early usage there

[chilly ivy]

At this point we’re probably not going to add more UE5 channels until 5.0 releases, which should be relatively soon.

As for Verse, no one can even use it yet, nor are there any resources for it. A channel wouldn’t really do much good.

It has only been publicly announced as an upcoming feature for Fortnite modders.

[rocky nest]

Makes sense, I just see it come up every now and then and a central place for it would make sense.

There is a search bar though, that I could also use :)

[maiden crag]

Haha Clyde bot just trying to scold me for posting a picture of the UE4 Mannequin

Figured it was worth bringing up in case it happens to others

For now I'll try to keep my screenshots of the mannequin above the waist I guess

[rocky nest]

TBF Manny is pretty naked most of the time, but are you sure it's the waist down that triggered it?

[maiden crag]

It was a full body front shot of him in an A pose

[marble tusk]

To be fair, Discord's content check is weird.

[maiden crag]

I guess it's tough to know what actually triggered it specifically, but I can't think about anything else about my message that could possibly be objectional. Just a pile of physics settings and me bitching about collisions not working

[rocky nest]

Oh I mean within the image. Not sure what was deemed questionable, would be good to know what to avoid

[maiden crag]

The revised message is in #blueprint where it posted successfully this time, the only thing I changed was the angle of the shot on Manny

[chilly ivy]

Sometimes their algorithm makes mistakes. As you can see, Discord is aware of that. 😂

It's weirdly inconsistent with the mistakes it makes, which is a little frustrating, but alas, we don't really have a choice.

[marble tusk]

It is a requirement for "community" type servers I think

[chilly ivy]

That's correct.

[chilly ivy]

@idle spade Did you stay in the voice channel after requesting access?

[idle spade]

I may have.

[chilly ivy]

If you leave or switch channels, you have to ask Manny again.

[idle spade]

That did it.

Thank you.

[chilly ivy]

The blog post says it ends January 31, 2022 at 11:59 EST. I followed that.

Hm.

Yeah I see that. Very strange.

I'll look into it and update if necessary.

Thanks.

[chilly ivy]

Updated. It was my mistake. Jan 31 is when the coupon stops working, and the sale end date in the blog post is way at the bottom under all the highlighted assets. I thought the post ended before the highlighted assets.

I thought this was the end of the post. Didn't realize there was more text under all the assets. 😅

[silver musk]

@chilly ivy is there a way for me to edit my job posting?

[chilly ivy]

Not currently, sorry. If it's already posted, you'll have to remove it with the $remove command, then repost it.

[silver musk]

ok I just hit start over

thanks

[chilly ivy]

Precisely why I added the review/start over step at the end. There's currently no good interface for editing something like that.

[mental vessel]

Thinking of it, #released for example, can have Discord threads.

[chilly ivy]

If anything, I think #work-in-progress is a more obvious candidate to consider.

I suppose you could make the same argument for any sharing channel, though.

[mental vessel]

Yep, but this is because you have mostly announcements which can be discussed in form of a thread.
Similar pattern you have over multiple channels.

However, I was thinking more of course, considering people who ignore threads as well authors who post however formatted announcement, make that idea useless.

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Maji#8597 was banned.

[molten notch]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-strike-admin-ban-admin-ban-gif-22545175

[mild moth]

Can we have a control rig channel or rigging? I feel there are specific issues related to that topic that could help.

[eager surge]

#animation

[mild moth]

But animation has different issues than rigging.

[warm geyser]

Still fits perfectly though. Having another channel that is just barren wouldn't really be all that useful.

[marble tusk]

Control Rig is part of #animation

[mild moth]

Ah, ok. Perhaps a renaming of anim & rigging? 🤔

[marble tusk]

<@&213101288538374145>

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Mr. Swiss0364#3972 was banned.

[buoyant mulch]

In the permanent jobs channel, would be nice to see where the company is based (ie where you get paid from) in addition to where the job is offered. Would help to guestimate how time zones would effect taking jobs allowing work from anywhere.

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Amr Hamed#7996 was banned.

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: NatanaelF1#4831 was banned.

[quasi rivet]

if not a scam, still spam

[eager surge]

Any chance we could move the UE5 channels below the general section? #ue5-general seems to be catching a lot of non-ue5 questions by virtue of it being first and people noticing just the "general" part of it. Been noticing this issue quite a bit, keep forgetting to make the suggestion 😛

[chilly ivy]

Done. Seems fair since the early access hype has leveled off for now. Thanks for bringing it up.

[marble tusk]

Oh, I FINALLY get this. Gonna have some cybersecurity fun with those frickers 😏

Those frickers are confirmed to be scammers.

[marble tusk]

Upon some google search, I found their... messy website, registered under arbit.dev. Same logo and all.
They're supposed to be market intelligence software. But their website being so broken and newly registered in just 3 months (even though their copyright year is dated 2019), and for whatever reason looking for game developers, already raise some red flag.
However, upon deeper investigation, I found another website, askarbit.com (3rd pic), with the exact same content and all, except this time the logo is different, and it's registered since as far back as 2017. This one had the HTTPS cert expired, but actually functional.
Looking at the address, I found SEC report registered under Arbit, Inc., as opposed to Arbit Co. listed in the phishing Google Form.

Either this is actually Arbit up to some shady practices, or some scammer for whatever reason impersonating Arbit Inc., but I'm leaning on the latter.

EDIT: I forgot to mention I did Wayback Machine on the more legitimate site, and the earliest capture doesn't use the slab serif logo.

[deft raft]

@marble tusk While that's all good to know, that's also pretty much offtopic :D

[halcyon wave]

As epic is late with providing official tutorials for Epic online Services
there should be a channel that is named # EOS
where content being created with EOS could be pinned and shown small projects

[rustic ridge]

We have an #epic-online-services channel already, we dont need another one

[frosty flame]

@chilly ivy The $remove feature doesn't seem to be working. It's not finding my post apparently when provided with the ID.

[ruby schooner]

can we have a troubleshooting channel for engine crashes that are unrelated to what we do?

[mental vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-overthinking-idea-dont-uderstand-problem-gif-20153689

[mint halo]

Like crashes that are not related to things you’ve caused?

[ruby schooner]

yup, I'm having an "out of video memory" and I haven't been able to solve it whatsoever on my own, even with the help of multiple people from #cpp, I didn't get any answer in #ue4-general since it's a busy chat and people don't necessarily want to be talking about very tricky issues in there (which is completely understandable)

[mint halo]

I’ve thought the idea of a log posting channel would be fun for those who would read em

But I think last time it was brought up as one of the roles #ue4-general plays

[candid barn]

A channel under content creation for modeling tools editor plugin would be nice

[ruby schooner]

anyone here? I don't see any answers from staff 😅

[marble tusk]

Ask on #ue4-general again.

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Misterrider#6667 was banned.

[worn rune]

What happened to #food? 🤨

[chilly ivy]

Weird! Try refreshing your Discord client. I can still see it on my end.

[sand grail]

hit the little Arrow

you have it collapsed

[worn rune]

oh yeah, that was it 😅

thanks

[chilly ivy]

Hah, can't believe I didn't catch that.

Probably because I'm hungry and need lunch. lol

[worn rune]

I thought you guys deleted #food. I would have been devastated lol.

[sand grail]

can't delete food, the world will end

[chilly ivy]

Yeah that'd be bad.

Come to think of it, I haven't posted in #food for quite a while. I should change that.

[cyan owl]

me either

[mint halo]

More food posts please

[marble tusk]

Taking photo of food without making it looked disgusting is difficult, y'know 😤

[mint halo]

Sometimes yummy food looks disgusting though

[spark anchor]

might just be me, but i would love a cats/animals channel, simply because it helps to look at cute animals while im working so i don’t get too overstressed while i work, might just be me tho idk

[marble tusk]

#lounge, though tbf it might get buried quickly at busy hours.

[mental vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-gif-18255627

[worn rune]

yeah I agree with this. I want to show you guys pics of my cat 😺

[marble tusk]

<@&213101288538374145> Discord invite link spam

[leaden karma]

:triangular_flag_on_post: It's Me M#7922 received strike 1. As a result, they were muted for 10 minutes.

[chilly ivy]

No current plans to tie it to specific channels here on Discord, but resource pages are definitely planned for the site. 🙂

Providing more resources beyond Discord was the primary motivation for building a new website.

Yeah, the pins are often not enough. I'm aiming to fill that gap with the website eventually.

[plucky hawk]

If it was not removed in UE5, I'd say first post must be about hot reload on new slackers website. We always send them relevant links and explain why it's not recommended, but seems like people don't encounter with relevant infos on their own until they visit #cpp

But since release date of UE5 is not totally clear yet, if slackers website coming sooner it's release date, I think there should be a post for that

[rustic ridge]

Epic Games disabling Hot Reload by default would be a much better solution

but it seems they are overwhelmed with that, too much of a task

[marble tusk]

Live Coding is still marked as Experimental somehow.

[eager surge]

It isn't as of UE5. And it's the new default. Only applies to source builds, not EA2.

[marble tusk]

Well, I guess implementation in UE4 is abandoned.

[mental vessel]

Kinda wonder whether not using communities like the wiki https://unrealcommunity.wiki/ is the best course as whole 🤔

[molten notch]

<@&213101288538374145>

[marble tusk]

<@&213101288538374145>

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Fil#0770 was banned.

[dry linden]

I know splitting up channels isn't preferred, but I do think it would help out a lot of AR folks to split up #virtual-reality sometime in future around UE5 launch, as AR questions are quickly buried. Also it would be nice to remove all pinned messages in #virtual-reality from 2017 and under as they are no longer relevant, one of them is someone's expired poll. Lastly, could we get this message pinned there? (#virtual-reality message) cheers! 🍻

[chilly ivy]

A few mentioned splitting #virtual-reality in our recent survey. Definitely considering it.

[wanton stone]

Where are the commands for the bot to share the screen?

[sleek warren]

coupling AR and VR under the same channel doesn't even make much sense IMHO, there's not much knowledge that crosses over

[sleek garden]

I have brought it up in here before as well for these exact reasons ^
AR related questions tend to get buried by VR and in general they are 2 different pieces of technology, I don't think many VR developers can help with AR or the other way around. I still think it would be a good idea 🙂

[marble tusk]

<@&213101288538374145>

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Hafiken#3093 was banned.

[chilly ivy]

Send a DM to @leaden karma and say !stream.

[lavish pagoda]

T-trash hypixel

[novel gorge]

Suggestion to just have Unreal Hangout voice chat since I've not seen anyone use the others except to hangout / general work on UE, same suggestion with the VO text channels. Instead use a bot that lets people create / manage (can rename / add password /kick people) Voice Channels if they want to break out into huddles and it removes the channel when the last person leaves, seen it used on other servers quite well.

[deft raft]

The whole "Break into smaller groups" can be easily achieved via DM calls and custom servers though. Not really worth the effort of coding that feature?

[dark trail]

How about a channel for performance/profiling? Or is the idea that we try to narrow it down (usually, but not always applicable) and ask in the appropriate channel?

[drowsy oxide]

Profiling is to broad of a topic. You are better off addressing what you want to optimise in the appropriate channel.

[placid knoll]

Can we have a shader channel for asking shader related questions?

Not sure where to post USF related questions 🤔

[drowsy oxide]

#cpp usually does field these questions the odd time they come up i believe.

I dont think its discussed enough to warrant its own channel unfortunately

[mental vessel]

I remember #graphics having such discussions too.

[placid knoll]

Ok

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Vampyre#9072 was banned.

[vale jacinth]

Agree

[dry linden]

maybe the people who signed up on the site could get a cool slackers logo role/badge/flair (however discord does it) by their name as a reward for signing up for the first newsletter drop 😉 could DM manny with your email, if it's on the list then you get the role

[chilly ivy]

I do appreciate everyone who signed up, but I don't think it's a good case for a special role. I think roles should be reserved for more meaningful status within the community, like being a financial supporter (a la Patreon) or a project contributor.

I have some ideas in mind.

[molten notch]

This needs to be clarified

[chilly ivy]

Thanks for bringing this up again. I went back and re-read our previous conversation about it. Our stance is that we don't allow sharing or asking for help with methods for reverse engineering, and you're right: rule #5 doesn't make this clear.

I'll rewrite rule #5 to explicitly call out reverse engineering.

If that turns out to be impractical, I'll add a new rule, but I'm hoping to cover both cases in the same rule.

[marble tusk]

Yes, because the implication is that "pirated goods" were implied to be just piracy of the game itself. Some already argued that they own the game and reverse engineering/ripping the assets doesn't count as piracy.

[loud gulch]

There is an argument for that, but not one that can be used convincingly over chat.

[chilly ivy]

@open radish @marble tusk Rule #5 has been updated. 🙂

Hopefully it leads to healthier discussion and less confusion.

[unkempt folio]

wow, unreal engine is so damn good! coming from unity, I do be getting better results in minutes! thx unreal devs

[drowsy oxide]

Love your enthusiasm! However this channel is specifically for feedback on this Discord Server. We are not officially affiliated with Epic Games in any capacity.

[unkempt folio]

Ohh sorry, probably read the channel incorrectly..
But I think this server could benefit with a channel to share your art, tools, scripts under permission of the creator (so no piracy is atplay). But other than that, the server has all the help categories needed!

[mental vessel]

#work-in-progress as well #released

[mental vessel]

fast 👍

[turbid lily]

nice

[slow belfry]

please allow for 15 minute threads or something so conversations dont have to overlap in a channel. I want to help and get help, but makes it hard when 3 conversations are happening.

[silver heath]

Please don't. Discord threads will turn this place into a mess.

[chilly ivy]

Right now I don't think threads are appropriate for this server, but we'll keep an eye on them and re-evaluate as things change.

[rustic ridge]

I also think that threads would be a good thing, even on this big server.

[chilly ivy]

We're considering threads for limited use cases, such as the sharing channels.

But we currently have no plans to enable them in every support channel.

[dry linden]

Everyone wanted slack threads. Discord just had to do one thing 😭. If they were to be tested, #work-in-progress might be a good one so feedback can stay in context instead of pushing others work up

[chilly ivy]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking of trying soon. Discord is also working on a new kind of channel that might work well for this community.

It's like a hybrid between Discord and forums, and looks — at least to my eyes — like a better successor to threads.

https://assets-global.website-files.com/5f9072399b2640f14d6a2bf4/61fd6e9d619240279e9b1752_Post_View.jpeg

[chilly ivy]

Yeah I think it looks promising. Waiting for the chance to actually experiment with it.

That format could even work for support channels. Certainly looks better for support than the current threads, at least.

Kind of makes me wonder if there could be a future where support and feedback channels use that forum format, while hangout/social channels use the regular text channel format.

[keen harness]

Indeed, flow of messages in some channels (programming ones) is too intensive for one thread. There is no chance that your message will be read by someone who doesn't watch it right now. It got flooded by hundred of another messages in minutes. I do not believe someone really read all messages since last visit.

[marble tusk]

A better suited place for threads might be in #work-in-progress and #released (or #share-your-stream which is largely ignored)

[sand grail]

Threads are just in a weird place right now

[loud gulch]

Where, I can't see any? 😄

[open radish]

hello, how to stream in voice chats? need request or something ?

[marble tusk]

DM @leaden karma with !stream command, if you're here for at least a week.

[molten notch]

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/unreal-engine-5-is-now-available-in-preview

Might wanna add this to the news channel

[chilly ivy]

I'm on it.

[neon plinth]

I'd also suggest creating a physics - Chaos channel.

[chilly ivy]

Good idea. I’ll update the channel today after breakfast.

[drowsy oxide]

Keep in mind that just because UE5 exists does not mean we dont want to support UE4

People will continue to use UE4 for a long time after 5 is truely released.

We need to ensure that channels that we create do not unnecessarily restrict people to only discussion on UE5 features.

[chilly ivy]

A lot of these topics have overlap, and it's tricky deciding when to split out new channels. We did #niagara because 1) Epic folks suggested it, and 2) Niagara does a lot and had a lot of specific questions when it was new.

[drowsy oxide]

We dont just add channels for the sake of adding channels. If they wont be used, they can be folded into existing ones until such a time they are sufficiently popular to warrant their own channel.

Its a balancing act.

And we dont always get it right, which is why we have this channel and these types of discussions with the community on what the community needs.

[wanton jackal]

with the advent of stuff like cubegrid, could we expect the description of #level-design to be updated to include these features?

or is the MO to wait for the full release of UE5?

[chilly ivy]

We're planning channel updates for when UE5 ships, so definitely expect changes. Not sure yet what to do about #level-design but it might get renamed.

[wanton jackal]

renamed to what?

[chilly ivy]

Not sure yet. Perhaps #world-creation or something like that. Just thinking about how we can make it more clear. There's been some confusion about what the channel is for.

Either way, channels will definitely be updated and/or shifted around for UE5 release.

[wanton jackal]

definitely

but I think that issue is more with the fact that #graphics is named the way it is

[mental vessel]

World creation, so npcs, quests and lore?

[chilly ivy]

We're looking at that one, too. Thinking we might split it into #lighting and #materials.

[wanton jackal]

also if there's going to be another art channel it'd be nice to have a dedicated design channel

[chilly ivy]

We used to have a design channel. It didn't really get used to discuss design so it's been archived.

[wanton jackal]

with the original #design having been removed and now #level-design biting the dust there isn't really a place to talk design, except for maybe #blueprint

right, but perhaps it's down to naming and descriptions

I'd settle for a #blockout channel to be honest 😅

[wanton jackal]

materials, landscapes and foliage

[mental vessel]

#game-design had a sad story, it was too innovative for its time.

[wanton jackal]

I genuinely believe having a naming convention that is unambiguous would be a boon for helping people finding the right places

[marble tusk]

Considering UE5 saw increase in use even by beginners, should we have bot assisted role assignment for those who predominantly use either UE4 or UE5? Aside from decorative use, I think maybe it could benefit those who want to answer questions related to the engine.

[mental vessel]

I expect spam fest.

[abstract berry]

Sounds like a good idea to me, in terms of role identification. Definitely would lead to alot of commands spammed as a result though yeah, heh

[drowsy oxide]

With the new update to channels list coming we are of the opinion currently that the differences between UE4 and UE5 features are significant enough that it would already be clear enough which version is being asked about along with the channel helping identify that. Furthermore the features that are the same should be similar enough that the version should not make a significant difference. Therefore a role to identify your preferred version is not on the cards.

[leaden karma]

:no_entry_sign: Raton_Laveur#5463 was banned.

[sand grail]

thanks for reporting 🙂

[deft raft]

Done, not sure what it's about, but yeah :D

[mental vessel]

Geek stuff

[night island]

uhh not sure exactly where to put this but i'm new here and a bit after making my intro i got a compleltely unsolicited dm from someone asking me if i'd be down to join their game dev team.
i didnt really find anything against this in the rules but i assume something must be done about someone sending dms just like that. seemed very fishy since my intro was my literal first message on the server.
can i simply dm a moderator for this?

[molten notch]

U can turn off dms to only friends

[night island]

thanks, i have done so. but the person is still on the server, and they've prolly dm'd others too

[warm geyser]

This is something up to an individual to correct imo, not the server.

It's a chat application, it should be within reasonable expectations that DMs will happen unsolicited.

[night island]

that's fair

[ruby knot]

This is against our #rules (7), can you DM for details?

[night island]

whoops i missed "unsolicited dms" in there. i cant seem to dm you, can you dm me first so we can start the chain?

[narrow pendant]

<@&213101288538374145> Just a heads up this message has been going around with a member on this board who has been hacked:

its claiming to be a "school project" that needs feedback, and even when you say no, they send you an exe

I didn't click but it appears to be malware

[chilly ivy]

If you or anyone you know receive a suspicious message like this, report it to Discord. There's a Report button when you first receive the DM before you accept it. If you've already accepted and begun the conversation, right-click their message and select Report Message.

That's the best way to help Discord improve the anti-spam systems.

[narrow pendant]

doing now, thanks

I can't see the report message

looks like I need to go into developer mode

[chilly ivy]

Hm, it's not tied to Developer Mode.

You should see this if you right-click one of their messages.

[narrow pendant]

I dont...

[chilly ivy]

I'm not sure what could cause that. 🤔

[narrow pendant]

I copied the message link and sent to discord trust and safety

[chilly ivy]

Great. That's the next best thing. 👍

[trim chasm]

The report message option might be region locked or not available to everyone? I am in developer mode, Discord client up-to-date and do not have that option at all

[gleaming thistle]

Hello i need to report a scam in this server

<@&213101288538374145> can i message someone?

[cyan owl]

@gleaming thistle you have your DM's set to friend's only

[gleaming thistle]

1 sec

[chilly ivy]

"Newly" is the key word, which is why it's in bold.

You can promote a project's initial release, but not updates.

I updated "newly" to instead say "initial release of".

I would also point out the description says "No updates", but I guess that's not obvious enough.

The channel description.

🙃

[hardy gyro]

Just as there is ue5 channels for all of those stuff make ue4 channels

[mental vessel]

I think the idea is to melt back ue5 when it gets out.

[analog burrow]

Maybe a new channel about control rig?

Since that's more technical stuff, #animation channel doesn't fit well to context in my opinion.

[marble tusk]

Control Rig still fits to #animation IMHO

And considering technical animation stuff isn't limited to just Control Rig anyway.

[analog burrow]

Well, we have dedicated metasounds channel instead of combining it with audio channel, so why not a control rig one? It's out of beta for Unreal 5 release.

[marble tusk]

I don't see huge changes from Control Rig in 4.27, apart from Full Body IK internal differences, and some stability improvements.

MetaSounds is a different beast compared to audio tools existed from 4.27 and prior.

[warm geyser]

I was pretty sure that it would. #metasounds is under the UE5 section which will eventually be sunset and recombined with the rest of the server once stable releases.

[hardy lintel]

How do users apply for the 📺 role that enables them to screen share in VC, presumably?

Got it. Looks like you have to DM the bot Manny with this command:
!stream

It looks like it takes a few days for new users.

Posting this for anyone else in the future looking to apply as it's still not mentioned anywhere in the #rules or #more-resources

[molten notch]

You have to be in the server for 7 days

From what I remember

[cyan owl]

Correct, 7 days within the server, no active strikes, and then anyone can stream in the voice channels once they message @leaden karma with the "!stream" command

[torpid haven]

shouldn't there be #self-promo channel just for things like linktree and patreon links? In SHARING category that mods describe as category for self-promo there is only channel for wip, channel for games and channel for streams but not channel for simple link providing

[marble tusk]

FWIW if you want to do promo for non-UE project, might as well do it somewhere else. DYOM (Do Your Own Marketing)

If it's a portfolio and you're available for hire, see #instructions on how to post on #hire-a-freelancer

[stone silo]

there is no channel specific to usd or I'm missing something?

[mental vessel]

Supported.

#weebs or #anime-lounge

[mental vessel]

They may get kicked out of there too tho. Just #anime

[calm latch]

create an anime game and send it to #graphics

problem solved

[marble tusk]

That's what I did.

Probably few times when talking about toon shading

[calm latch]

nice

[open radish]

i do not feel the point of having 2 or more lounge channels

after all, we are all humans here

[steel solar]

You could just start a different conversation.

[mental vessel]

This failed. Guys still can't shut up about anime/waifus and etc.

[analog burrow]

I didn't know #unreal-news is also used for self promotion from moderators.

[deft raft]

Yeah I think that was actually a misunderstanding as it looked more like Epic Games related when Will asked about posting it.
Seems more fitting for a normal #released post.
We are discussing it and will remove it if needed (:

[late yacht]

please make a mocap channel for studios that use mocap suits and can chat in 1 place. ik it could fall in #animation but it goes beyond just animation

[marble tusk]

Well, mocap is less accessible than doing technical animations or going back to ye olde ways of animating by hand, so yeah, answer's going to be sparse when it comes to mocap stuff.

[earnest eagle]

Anybody know if this is real? I dont know where else to put this

[chilly ivy]

It's not. Please report it with the big red button. 🙂

[earnest eagle]

Alright thanks

[chilly ivy]

Sorry for the trouble. Got a small raid of spammers.

[earnest eagle]

Damn

[stoic goblet]

Yeah, like 50 ish bots just joined. We're on it

[distant swan]

thank you for the heads up!

[tough raven]

Oh my God this is still happening x.x

I feel for you, mods

[vast cargo]

Mᴏderators academy people DMed me with that offer in annoucements

[marble tusk]

Due to some double standard with anime related conversation in #lounge , can we split #lounge to a dedicated #anime channel?

Out of respect to those who cannot stand or getting offended/irritated by anime related conversation.

[chilly ivy]

Thanks for the laugh. I needed it.

For the record: We're not going to split #lounge because some people don't like anime. That's a silly request.

Those were both highly requested topics.

[mental vessel]

Just to mention, we like anime. Just not so much.

[mental vessel]

Does not this server have anti bot joining process? Captchas, quizes, etc. 🤔

[chilly ivy]

They don't show up as bots. They're automated user accounts.

Users are required to agree to the rules before speaking in the server, but today's raiders were DM spammers.

[mental vessel]

Automated user account? What is this? 🤔

[eager surge]

normal accounts that happen to have a bot running them

ie not using discord's actual bot APIs.

[mental vessel]

Well, if you run a bot during joining - it is a captcha (e.g.) protection?

Or you mean, a scammer joins, but then a bot issues the attack?

[eager surge]

Either. Captcha isn't perfect, and it's known that there are "services" where you pay people to fill out captchas to bypass bot protection.

Also, some spam accounts were stolen from other people, so there's no captcha to bypass. They were a legit user when signing up, but their account has been hijacked.

[mental vessel]

It shouldn't be ignored, having a more sophisticated join process. Only stats can show how good it is. Consider raising the bar.

[marble tusk]

It's kinda unfortunate that 2FA requirement only apply to moderators (IIRC), not verification before able to send any message in server

[mental vessel]

I wonder what Discord does to improve on that 🤔

[eager surge]

Currently discord does some really dumb stuff related to account security that'd be "free" to fix - as in non-optional features that would have zero impact on users or servers.
Shit like user sign-in tokens being stored effectively in plain text where most programs on a computer can get them, and those tokens being valid on any system with no limits.

[sand grail]

2FA does not require a phone number though

[marble tusk]

2FA relies on mobile phone app, not phone numbers.
I won't recommend using Google Authenticator tho

2FA is only enforced for Moderator roles.
Unfortunately gatekeeping for regular members are limited to just phone numbers (which is stupid IMHO)

[gentle sand]

I think someone may have erroneously gotten banned from the server yesterday, they're not able to join anymore <@&213101288538374145>

[light shadow]

feel free to dm me their ID and we'll have a look

Apologies for the erroneous ban, @inland path! You joined right in the middle of a scam bot wave yesterday, and were caught in the mass purge

[spark shard]

That's honestly danm unlucky

[drowsy oxide]

We already have an April Fools joke

[glossy gulch]

its funny how nobody has noticed it yet

[late yacht]

WAT

where

i must inspect now

[mental vessel]

It all looks normal to me.

[drowsy oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/deez-ha-got-heem-got-em-got-him-gif-4824899

[wicked glen]

:'< it's killing me

[high iris]

I am raging

[wanton jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/well-played-sir-gif-22047381

[hard nova]

SCUM

HOW DID I ACTUALLY FALL FOR THIS

[tranquil palm]

[wary sun]

Same lol

[molten notch]

I don’t see the change

Sadge

[hard nova]

I genuinely checked my inbox and everything

[wary sun]

Same 😂

[crisp summit]

OH MY GOD

[wary sun]

Didnt even think about it being first of april

[crisp summit]

I hate you lol

[soft heart]

I fell for it :<

[molten notch]

Now we need an @ over to the @

[wary sun]

Pretty solid really

[tranquil palm]

I'm pro by now. I just hit "mark all as read", saw it stayed, and caught on

[safe bough]

here I was excited for some awesome news 😦

[sinful tapir]

Spent like 5 minutes thinking what I'm missing haha //great joke 🙂

[proper glade]

Nice April Fools

[steel rapids]

I hate it

[turbid lily]

I hate u

[glossy gulch]

hugs @turbid lily

[shrewd vapor]

scrolling up the gameplay-ability-system channel all for nothing ^^

[turbid lily]

_kicks @glossy gulch _

[glossy gulch]

XD

[turbid lily]

❤️

[sleek garden]

My phone didn’t update the thing and I was so confused for multiple minutes 😂

[frail cloud]

I almost left the server until seeing what today was...

[nimble bloom]

same xD

[frail cloud]

i should specify not to ragequit but to try to clear that fake notification 🤣

[glossy gulch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/theoffice-the-office-tv-business-ethics-l8ooOxhcItowwLPuZn

[stuck robin]

Bruh 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 that notification got me

[turbid lily]

I still hate it

[glossy gulch]

no UE5 for you mister

[turbid lily]

no tim

plz

Per server profile pictures are so nice lol

[glossy gulch]

go make your voxels in fortnite

[turbid lily]

go buy my voxels

[glossy gulch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/music-band-travis-emuuaYQq2k5QZ8I0SZ

[turbid lily]

lul the crappy dollar physics

is this chaos

[cyan owl]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-chaos-square-enix-gif-21948103

[wraith glade]

That's just evil

[wise terrace]

Does anyone else have an unread message on this server? I've tried setting it to mark all as read but it still has the 1 in a red circle

[raven seal]

🤣

[obtuse locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UtRnGn5hc evryone who already fell for it seeing other people fall for it

[wise terrace]

Oh mother fuckers

God damn you're good

https://c.tenor.com/v6ppNdr03WAAAAAM/sad-frown.gif

[forest thicket]

Gonna tell my mom about this

[cyan owl]

❤️

[mental vessel]

This server becoming dangerous... maybe we get another Free for the Month

[glossy gulch]

I'll allow it

[mental vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/pray-beg-please-homer-the-simpsons-gif-15706311

[potent tendon]

I've spent 10 minutes figuring out why I have a unread message....

you win this time moderators

[wise terrace]

Get back to work, Tim. Where's Unreal 6?

[glossy gulch]

working on it

[topaz haven]

Yea same, i didnt understand it till i saw your message lol

[open radish]

Same

Genius

[karmic crown]

I'm a message-clearer and I hate this.
Well played.

[prime panther]

I hate you guys for this. scrolled through every channel to see how i was pinged ...

[honest rock]

pro tip: animated server icon and put it only on the first frame

it also got me

[cyan owl]

that's a great idea, working on it ^_^

[honest rock]

sorry everyone else!

[cyan owl]

the deed has been done

you're now an accomplice

[turbid lily]

I hate u

[marble inlet]

jesus

[honest rock]

You're welcome!

[marble inlet]

that's a good one

[honest rock]

Don't worry, I hate me too!

[honest rock]

That animated icon is awful. Well done and thanks!

[supple pivot]

It keeps getting me X_X

[sage jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-russia-hard-bass-break-dance-windmill-gif-16269815

[soft gorge]

It was fun the first ten hours. Time to remove it?

It's actively driving me away from the server.

[cyan owl]

it's been 5 hours ^_^ you'll be ok lol, promise ❤️

[soft gorge]

Alright!

[wanton jackal]

welp, they left

[cyan owl]

that's unfortunate, i hope his day gets better, clearly not in a good mood

[wise terrace]

I for one love it

[honest rock]

it's easy enough to drop it in it's own folder to hide it for the day

it got me good on wakeup, went to check mentions, nothing, then figured it out

[cyan owl]

i fall for it every 10 or so minutes ago, i might be genetically 75% goldfish it turns out

[honest rock]

<meant the emoji to be a reaction, not new message>

[wary sun]

Did it get updated?

It goes back to default when I enter the server

[meager imp]

Lol, well played.

[novel rose]

man, been twiggin out over this all day

Tim for president

[glossy gulch]

first thing I'd do is reduce all taxes (for all but the rich) to 5%

[novel rose]

there you have it

[glossy gulch]

5 is the new 12

[warm geyser]

UE12 confirmed. Ya'll heard it

[abstract berry]

lol imagine leaving a server over such a thing, even after already knowing its a joke haha..

o well

[honest rock]

another server I'm in has lost 0.3% of it's users today

[glossy gulch]

dont know the exact numbers, but probably close to that

[marble tusk]

Well, it happens

[abstract berry]

yeah im sadly very used to it, on my side of things

dealt with Discord drama on and off for about 5 years now, while running mine :p

[glossy gulch]

few more hours, then its gone.

[rich stratus]

can you not

[blazing knoll]

:(

but this is awesome

[supple pivot]

people leave servers for the most random of reasons.

[late yacht]

OMG

YOU GUYS DID MY IDEA

🙂

Im happy

EVERYONE HERE WAS PRANKED BECAUSE OF ME

[late yacht]

thank u for the prank i am very pleased

[marble tusk]

Then what? Start charging royalty?

[late yacht]

no i just got super pranked by another chat

and wanted everyone else to get pranked like i did

🙂

Spread the suffering

looool jk

BUT FOR REAL FEEDBACK; PLEASE MAKE A LIVE LINK CHANNEL SO I CAN DISCUSS MY LIVE LINK PROBLEMS!

[glossy gulch]

@cyan owl was the one who implemented it

[late yacht]

i applaud them i missed it but seeing this chat gave me joy 🤣

[glossy gulch]

so many confused, funny, and angry comments XD

and hundreds of people leaving the server

https://giphy.com/gifs/phone-matthew-perry-hour-eVh9uXk3aC6m4

[cyan owl]

_>

[marble tusk]

PRANKING UNREAL SLACKERS WITH FAKE PING (GONE WRONG)
||don't forget the red circles||

[glossy gulch]

next year we'll do better

rofl

[chilly ivy]

Yeah next year we should do something more unique to our community.

[cyan owl]

#rudemanny

[ruby knot]

Shut down the server for a day 👀

[cyan owl]

or we have a 2nd bot, Quinn, and they are constantly fighting with each other, like two divorced parents

lol

[glossy gulch]

!stream
Quinn: Dont give him the rights, he just joined 14 months ago!

[cyan owl]

!stream
Manny: Ask your mom

[chilly ivy]

Manny will go on strike for the day. (Ok not really. I’m not that cruel)

[glossy gulch]

i read that as manny striking everyone in the channel

me and my brain

[chilly ivy]

Lol

[glossy gulch]

or do something really daring, like changing this channels name to "server-feetback"

<_<

[marble tusk]

Manny be possessing BFG and the tracers striked everyone

[glossy gulch]

meanwhile I should have been sleeping two hours ago, so... gnight

[honest rock]

I put a red circle at the end of my username and trolled my DMs pretty good

[honest rock]

I helped another server implement it too

[late yacht]

LOOOOL

[molten notch]

Have all the messages show up in the form of a print string in unreal c++

Like every message would be

GEngine->I forget the function name(“the message here”)

[supple pivot]

AddOnScreenDebugMessage

[native portal]

I am really disappointed that the notification icon was removed before midnight. I feel the community was cheated out of an important last few hours of the experience. I hope whoever made that decision takes the time to fully reflect on their actions.

[glossy gulch]

haha

hugs @native portal

[chilly ivy]

We'll just have to outdo ourselves next year.

[arctic dragon]

@chilly ivy Please have someone add State of Unreal event to schedule on twitch. ❤️

[dire wolf]

could the graphics channel be split into "meshes" and "materials"? there are a lot of overlapping questions that fit into it at times

[rich pasture]

next year this place turns into the official CRYENGINE Discord server.

[glossy gulch]

while I'd love to see a dedicated materials channel, I think its because there is so much overlap between the two that having them together in one channel also makes sense.

[dire wolf]

Well the reason being that it's a bit awkward to ask something about "what is wrong with my UV overlap" or software specific questions about maya or blender right next to "why is my shadow on my shader weird?" 😄

but i get it

[hallow gorge]

Tbf the shadow issues and uv overlap go hand in hand

[dire wolf]

Not necessarily, sometimes people use emissive materials which is not related to the mesh

[hallow gorge]

most commonly tho its a lightmap issue which is why i say it

[marble tusk]

Litwrally makes you weep

[chilly ivy]

Scheduled events can only have one link, so I chose YouTube since it seems to offer better streaming these days.

[marble tusk]

Well, at least I can stop blaming myself for Twitch not having good connection in my side, but YouTube works fine.

[chilly ivy]

I've had the same experience for a long time now. At least a year if not more.

[arctic dragon]

What I meant was that it will be streamed on twitch tomorrow, but the schedule tab/page on twitch only shows thursday's "inside unreal" and the currently ongoing "live" stream. Tomorrow is empty in the schedule's calendar.

[chilly ivy]

Ah. That's under Epic's control so we can't help there.

[dim sandal]

I still like the idea of a gameart-creation channel for those questions (more DCC focused), I imagine it would pickup all those blender issues or "what do you think of my character design"

[hallow gorge]

I do think a dcc channel would be good, for things like blender, and graphics design, could really appeal to the indie community having a centralised resource

Cause any games gonna need models, textures and even logos and schnizzle

[cyan owl]

There are some features we are waiting for discord to move out of private beta/ experimental for us to utilize, that we plan on doing alot of really great stuff with 🙂

including expansion and specialized areas for conversations dedicated to many specific sub categories that would simply overwhelmingly clutter the discord if we tried to do this without those new features

[hallow gorge]

That does sound quite nice actually

Well i hope they release them soon

Would be nice to try out

[mental vessel]

There are enough Blender and general CG servers out there though.

[dim sandal]

yes but those questions happen anyway on this server, why not just centralize them

[mental vessel]

No, punish them 💪

Also, #anime when?