🌟│wooting80he

[restive bay]

I hope there are people who cancel the purchase so I can get it faster than mid november

EU-Kampionen

[feral jetty]

not any clear choises yet tbh

[zealous oak]

Not me 😋

[restive bay]

DO IT!

[feral jetty]

pbtfans bank account set is really nice

[zealous oak]

But you will enjoy some pics in october

[restive bay]

Time flies tho

[icy cosmos]

Me either, I have the Polychroma v2 from glorious on order

[restive bay]

almost end of August, time is passing by real quick at least for me

[zealous oak]

yes time flies

[obsidian girder]

im glad it exist at all, so i dont mind the waiting

only reason i didnt get the 60he is the 60he part x)

[feral jetty]

nice

man all the kits i like have the international kit out of stock

[restive bay]

I didnt go for the 60he just in case I could go back to play wow at some point

otherwise 60he would be perfect for me atm

[feral jetty]

love these

[restive bay]

sadly I didnt win any giveaways of the 60he, would have been nice

[keen agate]

Is this a good place to get keycaps.

Also what’s the like general consensus on keycaps in terms of materials?
Any clear favs?

[fallen epoch]

Well, what evidence do you have?

[keen agate]

I’m not really much of a keeb nerd, I’ve had the same keycaps for like 5-6 years honestly, I just change switches every few years

[bold obsidian]

PBT is better imo. more durable

ABS spacebars especially are more likely to be warped

[feral jetty]

candykeys seems to have the biggest stock in the eu market atleast

[bold obsidian]

some high-end ABS keycap sets will include PBT spacebars now because of that

[feral jetty]

no evidence

ooh this set is awesome

but it would rack up to 170€ which is a bit much for me

[atomic brook]

yup a few of us got them for the 80he

i have one set next to me rn

[keen agate]

Hmm, okay thanks for the advice guys

Also is anyone else going for grey?
Interested to see what you guys think would look nice colour wise

[feral jetty]

hell yeah

[jade widget]

Which ones 👀

[atomic brook]

i will be swapping them out though

as soon as pbtfans singularity is available

[bold obsidian]

i gave misinfo 🤭

"In some PBT keycap sets, the space bar (and the space bar only) is actually ABS because it is more difficult to mould longer keys in PBT than in ABS. But I thought that applied mostly to vintage keyboards — and that new PBT sets use to be manufactured with better standards."

https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?t=28008

@jade widget i think the "best space bar" (if that is a thing) is from nuphy though https://nuphy.com/products/ghostbar

[jade widget]

I have one it's pretty good if you want that thock sound

[feral jetty]

oh man these are so cool

[bold obsidian]

idk whats going on with my Nuphy Field75 HE. apparently i missed the delivery at my apartment and now they just arent redelivering even though they keep sending me texts saying within 24 hours

but that will have a ghostbar

[feral jetty]

now these sre interesting

ahh pbtfans cookies and cream look so nice too

absolutely love these novelties

[silk falcon]

guys i have a miniquestion is that all what i need to buy white wooting?

[feral jetty]

the module has a switchplate already you dont need one separately

[silk falcon]

okay but without a swich plate its all what i need?

[atomic brook]

no

[sly ravine]

The switchplate already comes with the 80he right

Or did I forget to add it

[atomic brook]

you do know that the 60he comes with a cable right?

[silk falcon]

now i know XDD

[atomic brook]

unless you want a coiled one

you are getting 2

[feral jetty]

if you want to do something with that switch kit you need lube

[buoyant solstice]

PC Plate already preinstalled
Cable is fine if you want white - standard cable is black and yellow

[silk falcon]

now its good or i need to ad something

[feral jetty]

thats all you need for a fully functioning keyboard

[silk falcon]

but Can I somehow change the cable I get or not?

to white

[atomic brook]

no

its a yellow and black straight woven cable

[feral jetty]

stock cable is black and yellow, you need to buy a separate one if you want white

[silk falcon]

why they don't add cable color option price is the same

[feral jetty]

Its detachable usb c so yes

[atomic brook]

there isnt a straight white cable

ehhhh not for the 60he at least

[pseudo parrot]

if you want a straight white cable you need the detachable set

[atomic brook]

also this is the https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1186265045227802714 server

[feral jetty]

the stock cable is a part of the brand, its recognizable in tournaments like the strap so its good advertisement

[silk falcon]

it have sense

but my setup will be a black and white

and the black and yellow will look strangely

[atomic brook]

the white detachable set it is then

[tight swallow]

You could maybe get a random other usb2 woven cable if you are not in love with the coil(which is way more expensive)

[atomic brook]

you can have it straight

both are included

[tight swallow]

I know but you still pay for the coil

[pseudo parrot]

third party cables, especially coiled ones are not guaranteed to work / work well with wooting keyboards

[silk falcon]

i have one more question wooting has a wireless option to use or not?

[atomic brook]

no

[silk falcon]

okay

only on cable

[feral jetty]

the apple 2m usb c cable would fit well

[pseudo parrot]

lol right. i use that sometimes

[sullen yarrow]

why is that? isn't it all just USB C in the end?

[tight swallow]

As long as it is a quality cable it should be fine, if you want a coil might as well go with the official one xD

[feral jetty]

my glorious one has worked so far

[silk falcon]

i look at web page to check this yellow and black and this yellow cabel and the yellow is almost invible

[pseudo parrot]

wooting requires a lot of power. some third party cables either aren’t shielded well enough or don’t have a thick enough wire gauge to deliver enough.
this can result in the keyboard either not working properly or can’t be used with rgb/ tachyon

[buoyant solstice]

Yes - And USB C has to obey laws of physics like any other thing. 😄

Cables longer than 2m is... a challenge.

[tight swallow]

Say that to my 3m 100w belkin (not sure about data through it though)

[buoyant solstice]

I said challenge - Not impossible 😉

Any random 3m cable won't work however. Just like how using a 5m cable and a 5m extender is probably not a bueno idea.

[pseudo parrot]

signal integrity at such lengths is a challenge too

[tight swallow]

But it is a bit weird that there are no normal straight cable options in the store, or recomendations

[feral jetty]

does ethernet cable lenght affect speed much

[fringe badger]

bold of you to assume physics exists in my home

[buoyant solstice]

[sullen yarrow]

personally I like to turn off physics after a hard day at work

[pseudo parrot]

[tight swallow]

There are also physics defying creatures people often keep as pets

[pseudo parrot]

[sullen yarrow]

[fringe badger]

i couldn't agree more

sometimes i just want to levitate on my bed

[silk hedge]

?

[minor vigil]

how much power usage has the wooting?

[buoyant solstice]

Why do you ask?

[minor vigil]

i think im close to capping out my psu

[buoyant solstice]

Hah. A USB device like a gaming keyboard isn't going to be the deciding factor.

[minor vigil]

ok ty!

[buoyant solstice]

But USB 2 is like... 5V 500 mA, or 2.5Watts

[steady escarp]

wow usb 2 not 3

wooting sux

[buoyant solstice]

Technically we only need USB 2 for the power. We use 1.1 for data.

Welcome to the reality of peripherals.

[steady escarp]

I need usb 4 thunderbolt 9 with 75 gbps 24khz scan

actually scratch that, get I get a ps/2 cable wooting

that would be awesome

[keen agate]

If I don’t have a full DisplayPort connection beaming 4k footage to my keeb at all times what’s the point

[pseudo parrot]

why do you want a ps/2 cable for wooting

[steady escarp]

ps/2 just goes hard

also I am joking

[tight swallow]

There "were" some latency "benefits" with those(ps/2) I heard but yeah not really a proper thing for more than a decade

[pseudo parrot]

lol

[hybrid inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[tepid summit]

Guys, can you help me if I wanna cancel the order how long its take to get some info from the support ? and moneyback, because that time what we got delivery we moving out from eu zone (

?

cause its must mid October right now its late December

[upper garden]

it tells how how long the wait is through email. Did you contact support?

[tepid summit]

yeap, the my last question they didnt answer at all

[upper garden]

they will get back to you as soon as they can could be up to 24 hours or a couple of days

[tepid summit]

T_T i got first question at 9.08 and nobody answear me xD

probably i got super luck with support guys xD

[blissful spindle]

took support 8 days for my cancellation, if that eases your worry

[jade widget]

Supports very busy at the moment they'll get to your email when they can

[tepid summit]

ty for answering, will se how fast i will got my )

[clever copper]

damn I see lot of people canceling

[icy cosmos]

That’s sadly not the case for the first batch. It’s full

The second batch has some wiggle rooms it seems

[blissful spindle]

the 60he is actually enough for me, i thought i needed an 80% but everything i need is pretty accessible on 60

tho it kinda sucks not being able to enter bios, i never made it on 60%

[radiant anvil]

38~ days to wooting 80he we Just Need to hold on a little longer.

[wind fractal]

first batch is when? september?

i got quoted november on checkout

[tight swallow]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/517576648242233345

[past parrot]

Wait does that server change

Do I have to do something to see the server chabge

[acoustic jasper]

i am so bored of waiting, i have gotten myself into 2 rabbit holes, vintage cherry switches and ec/topre boards 💀 fun tho

[hearty sky]

Hopefully no more delays

[unborn fractal]

I just hope they fix the delivery dates/batch error. Mine changed from NA-Bridge (Mid Nov) to NA-Beluga (Mid Dec).

[jade widget]

Sounds cheap

[acoustic jasper]

holes in my pockets

[unborn fractal]

Has the delivery date/batch error happened to everybody?

[tight cypress]

#📦│batch_updates message

[unborn fractal]

I've read that. I'm just too queasy seeing that Mid Dec delivery date. I ordered it at a friend's place in US who will be traveling to India Mid Dec. I just hope I don't have to cancel my order ☹️

[coarse crest]

You should be able to put it on hold if it stays mid Dec for w/e reason if you go onto your wooting hub

[urban meadow]

Huh, is my order wrong if it still says one of the original batch names

[unborn fractal]

I'll keep this in mind. My original delivery date was Mid Nov. I hope they fix it and it goes back to showing Mid Nov. I'll heave a sigh of relief then.

[soft talon]

If I were to order the arm rest would it be delayed for a further batch or be pushed to deliver earlier alongside the earlier batch?

[carmine pulsar]

i thought the deliverytime would not be interfered with the new batch names?

[carmine pulsar]

me too im actually kinda mad now its annoying i was like okay 1 month that with the ic is unlucky can happen, but now that it comes december after it got already delayed like 3x

[snow canyon]

where do you see them classified names?

[carmine pulsar]

in your hub you should see that

[carmine pulsar]

when did you order?

[snow canyon]

ah I see mine

when did you order yours?

[carmine pulsar]

beginning of july

[jade widget]

Please read the #📦│batch_updates fully it is not delayed

[urban meadow]

During July, which should count me into the second batch

[toxic zephyr]

expecting people to read 5 lines pff

[icy cosmos]

It has only been one technical issue that causes the delay. Not sure how you counted 3X ?

[atomic brook]

actually no there's been 3 lmao

[icy cosmos]

My order delivery has only been adjusted one time

[atomic brook]

so the first was a one week delay

2nd is one month for the raw zinc case

3rd is 6 weeks for the ic malfunction

[icy cosmos]

Or was it my mindset has always been December from the get go. Even made a bet that the estimate delivery date would never hold

If you look at it from a different perspective.

1. One week is no week
2. RAW was never finished, it was in development
3. Ic malfunction was the real problem that can break a product.

[atomic brook]

honestly

the one week delay annoyed me the most

raw he was for design quality

and the ic malfunction would have been way way worse if it got unnoticed

[icy cosmos]

The first cut ✂️ hurts the most 🤣

This is typical, people not understanding kickstarter, crowdfunding, group buy, preorder…. You’re not buying a finished product. You’re buying into the journey of making the product

[simple cobalt]

Heya!

I believe the funny thing known as my new keyboard, has just arrived. I wanted to see if any absolute nerds crazy enough like me could help set it up and get it running on Arch. The guide on wooting.io is coming up as a 404 page :/

https://wooting.io/wootility
https://help.wooting.io/en/article/wootility-configuring-device-access-for-wootility-under-linux-udev-rules-r6lb2o

I'm getting to see if I can grab it from the arch user repository but lookin at stuff like the udev rules is something I am not aware of.

[buoyant solstice]

https://help.wooting.io/article/147-configuring-device-access-for-wootility-under-linux-udev-rules
Works just fine here?

[simple cobalt]

Blessed.

Somehow the link just was giving me a 404, that one looks good now. I'll work through this now on this absolute mess of a membrane keyboard haha

[buoyant solstice]

I just clicked the old link, and it automatically redirected to the new page.

[simple cobalt]

this is what I was getting.

when clicking on the blue text

[buoyant solstice]

I'll pass it on. 🙂

[simple cobalt]

Thanks!

Everything installed fine on my end so time to unbox this beaut!

I may require a linux nerd at some point if they have any tips or optimisations that I may miss.

[tight cypress]

Just add udev rules, reload udevadm or reboot, and you're good to go

https://tenor.com/view/thats-basically-all-there-is-to-it-adam-engvid-thats-about-it-thats-all-of-it-gif-26135167

[simple cobalt]

Aye all done! I am certainly getting used to typing on this but it has been amazing so far!

And here I thought it would be alot more to do, still just waiting on scrumptious open source nvidia driverts but all is swell!!

[tight cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/me-too-me-too-kid-incredibles-gif-19919940

But at least they're moving to open kernel ones by default so that's nice

[deep ocean]

only reason to get 80he over 60he+ is size right? just wanted to make sure

[upbeat berry]

fixed

[buoyant solstice]

Number of keys, 8khz scanning and polling and gasket mounting.

[tidal sleet]

lekker v2s

[pseudo parrot]

for now yes. they will come to other keyboards at some point

newer two he and 60he boards come with lekker v1.5 and difference between that and v2 is not as big as v1 vs v2

[atomic brook]

led bar crying

[simple cobalt]

Legend! Happy to have found a funny issue to report haha

[deep ocean]

okay im just thinking about the new 8khz polling rate

not that big of a difference compared to 1khz right?

[atomic brook]

0.6ms diff

[tight cypress]

Huge difference under the hood, not so much in day-to-day use

[humble oyster]

hrm, I just ordered a two he, will it come with the lekker v2's or is it worth it to switch to the 80he?

[tight cypress]

You can buy v2s separately and install them in 2HE

[atomic brook]

it will come with the lekker v1.5 most likely

[humble oyster]

that seems... like way more money

[atomic brook]

than buying a new keyboard?

[humble oyster]

I haven't even got it yet

I ordered it today

[tight cypress]

Welp, newer batches come with v1.5s and they already have wobble tolerance improvements which haunt v1s

[atomic brook]

the v2's wouldnt be a much of a difference to the v1.5s so dont worry

[humble oyster]

just wondering if it's worth switching to 80he

[atomic brook]

if you want

we kinda dont know ur usage or lifestyle

[humble oyster]

uh generally everything

gaming as well as productivity

[buoyant solstice]

Form factor will always be the biggest difference. Do you need to use Numpad often? Then it's hard to get around the 2HE.

[humble oyster]

yea ok 2 he it is then

daily numpad user

8k polling just seemed interesting

now I just have to deal with my dying apex 5 for another 2 months

[deep ocean]

wait, will the 60he be restocked with v2's in the near future?

[atomic brook]

yes

[red heart]

You can also get 80he/60he and buy a separate numpad that you can move out of the way for gaming

[atomic brook]

wootpad

20he

[humble oyster]

real we need a wooting numpad

[red heart]

Until that day comes you can just get a keychron one

[humble oyster]

I was thinking about that but like the tradeoff is another 50 dollars for as far as I can tell not a huge end user boost

[red heart]

Or just a cheap one that you dont need to feel bad if you get rid of it later

I mean it‘s up to you really but i think it‘ll be an upgrade for me

Especially cause you can put the numpad on the left instead

So you can use your left hand for it

[humble oyster]

oh wait that's so true

alright that alone might've convinced me

[red heart]

Also clears out mouse space which is nice

[humble oyster]

clearly the answer is 4 uwus in a vertical stack

[red heart]

True

Solder 4 uwus together and make a custom shell for them

[humble oyster]

you don't need to solder them

just a custom case and 4 usb ports

[buoyant solstice]

Like the big deck holder for Yugioh?

ur going t-to the shadow weawm uwu

[red heart]

y-you're going to the shadow realm b-baka!!

[halcyon dock]

Little bit confused with this email...
I know it's impossible to ship 80hes rn but still wonder why this email sent.

[buoyant solstice]

That IS very odd. We did send out this email a while ago by accident, but it shouldn't do it anymore.
@nova nexus ?

[nova nexus]

I thought I fixed that

[icy cosmos]

I am a daily numpad user too... but I got a stand alone numpad for my numbers work. 80HE for the rest.

2HE remake with detachable numpad which you can place on both left or right.

Microsoft Sidewinder X6 Gaming Keyboard

[buoyant solstice]

So you want an 80HE with a Numpad accessory 😉

[icy cosmos]

Yes. please.

I am using this atm. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/coolermaster/controlpad-24-keys-with-analog-control

I can wait another 3 years...

[tight cypress]

Wootpad HE 2027 confirmed

[icy cosmos]

I expect greatness from you guys.

[tight cypress]

Am just a mod

[copper valve]

I want an L45 switch, so I want to buy an 80HE module and a zinc white case or pcr frost case, is the white cable included?

[buoyant solstice]

A cable is included to match the case colour.

[icy cosmos]

A mod can dream too...

[copper valve]

thank you for your answer

[minor vigil]

moistpad

[mossy lance]

Wootpad - 1HE - Just a foot paddle

[fallen epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-samurai-keanu-reeves-shades-off-cyberpunk2077-gif-15573061

[upbeat berry]

thats wootpad he 2077

[fallen epoch]

[violet garnet]

wootpad 20HE attachable to the 80HE, makes a 100HE

[atomic brook]

man what a shame wooting doesnt have a 100HE

such an untapped market

[vapid storm]

so uh the 2HE?

[atomic brook]

god no

a 100HE

[violet garnet]

but hear this, right. you can separate it

[vapid storm]

I.. alrighty then

[thick lichen]

Two HE is a full-size. We will be working on a refresh on it in the future. So if you have any feedback, just let us know of course. 🙂

[fallen epoch]

More randomized keycaps

[violet garnet]

3HE > 2HE+

[thick lichen]

UwU keycaps spread on the whole of the keyboard and randomized? 😛

[fallen epoch]

Mhm

[vapid storm]

perfect

[thick lichen]

Erik is already trying to get a full board with just his face 😂

[atomic brook]

btw

[vapid storm]

or just the snackpack with a different snack for each key

[atomic brook]

has anyone collected all the uwu keycaps?

[fallen epoch]

We MUST help erik in his journey

[thick lichen]

I don't know anyone that has the entire catalog.

Besides, wooting itself, heh.

[pseudo parrot]

my money is on cals. they might accomplish that

[atomic brook]

lmao yea probably

[violet garnet]

where's the nearest factory, I will simply aquire them...

don't ask how

[tight cypress]

Nah, it won't work anymore, they got better defenses after second time

[fallen epoch]

So there was a first time

[worn compass]

Crazy to think the IC problem was 3 weeks ago, 71 days until november boys.

[fallen epoch]

Not much longer

[worn compass]

Been counting down since 98 days

We feeling nostalgic for the delays with this one 🗣️

[violet garnet]

almost the end of august already? leaves around 45 days left for me

[atomic brook]

[worn compass]

Hopefully I’ll be able to sell my nintendo switch in time so I’ll have enough to change my order to pcb white zinc with l2 45g switches

I dont wanna be late to change my order so I’d have have to wait even longer for delivery

[fallen epoch]

Mhm, were almost at the finish line, us first batch users!

[north sierra]

my wooting never come 😭😭😭

[fallen epoch]

Not much longer, just hold out!

[atomic brook]

https://tenor.com/view/oasis-desert-gif-11844456

surely its not another mirage

[spring oar]

Can't wait for it to be shipped. I only realized the keyboard exist until Optimum report on the SOCD thing.

[high scroll]

i cant believe we are close to start shipping, im so happy

[verbal solar]

Should’ve made it a 60HE pro and added all the tech from the 80HE

[tight cypress]

The biggest problem with 60HE is that there's no space for bigger MCU like in 80HE
That requires redesign of the whole board, and possibly moving USB to a daughterboard

[icy cosmos]

MS sidewinder x6 keyboard: feature dockable keypad left/ right

makes it a true 80 +20 HE

also the HE keypad can be sold as accessory to 60HE and 80HE

[violet garnet]

[quiet lynx]

I really would love to see a keyboard with media keys

[violet garnet]

not sure how much of an advantage rapid trigger would be for making excel spreadsheets. but you'll definitely be the best calculator player in the entire office

[tender night]

did val ban the wooting 80he new feature? The scrappy snappy

[quiet lynx]

no

[toxic zephyr]

the two he already has 4 extra buttons you can map to media controls

the other keyboards don't have "extra" buttons but you can map all of them how you like

[quiet lynx]

still need a volume wheel 🛞

but also I'm trying to move away from full size cause tilting keyboard at fullsize is awful

[tight cypress]

[quiet lynx]

ill probably remap the keys on the 80he

only really use prntscr

[tight cypress]

Why would you want an ugly wheel sticking out from the keyboard?

[quiet lynx]

I like these ones idk

[pseudo parrot]

#🌟│wooting80he message

[toxic zephyr]

the best use I found for a knob is directly controlling my music player's volume, I have an amp for global volume control.. but I'd say I was fine with just hotkeyed volume up/down as well

[low token]

Eww thats bad

[soft shore]

W

[misty heart]

I've allready suggested that the led strip can be made into a volume control with sliding a finger left to rigth on 80he.

[obsidian girder]

volume knob might be useless for some people, me included

[misty heart]

This way it will be a very unique and with cool factor volume control option/have the knob functionality

Slide finger on the led stril left to rigth volume up, slide rigth to left volume down.

[livid cypress]

Cal que la taur

[misty heart]

People will be happy and forget/stop asking for knob then

[obsidian girder]

its a little cramped for a slider dont you think

[misty heart]

the slider will be the led strip

[obsidian girder]

and imma say it again

[obsidian girder]

its a little cramped dont you think

[misty heart]

there is enough space to slide a finger between up arrow and del+pg dn on the led strip

the LED strip remains, just a partial touch function is added

and slide the finger fast - 10% volume difference, slower 5% and with very little moving on the strip only then 1%

did you get what I'm proposing, no need for redesign there

the space is the same

[obsidian girder]

its a little cramped dont you think 😐

[misty heart]

the design is the same

[obsidian girder]

brother

[misty heart]

only the led strip is with touch

and provides the so desired knob media functionality

[quiet lynx]

there's a reason there's still tactile buttons on your phone for volume

[fleet forge]

that comparision doesnt really track

[misty heart]

but if you want you can control the volume by touch

[obsidian girder]

i get the appeal and use for both but

its not a enough space for viable slide touch, maybe tap, but even then

[fleet forge]

whats it matter. its not happening lol

[obsidian girder]

its an interesting hypothetical design

i just dont think in this instance its feasible

[misty heart]

Nothing changes the design, only the led strip gets this functionality, if you don't want to use it fine, but it's an option for those asking for knobs

[icy cosmos]

We are not a fruit company, we don’t do touch ( even the fruit company has dropped the touch in 2024)

[obsidian girder]

bro, i think youre misunderstanding

im not talking about changing looks or placement

or functionality

which are all ''design changes''

[misty heart]

I'm suggesting what can be done as easy solution to fix up this design to provide the desired knob functionality

[obsidian girder]

im saying theres not enough physical space for the touch functionality to have a quality people would want to use it

[misty heart]

the space will be the same, the touch sensor will be on top of the led strip

[obsidian girder]

and thats why its a problem

[misty heart]

no it's not, are you gonna touch the led strip by accident

[fleet forge]

chances are theres not enough space in the keyboard to implement it

[obsidian girder]

you really try to design japanese rush hour trains the into a keyboard design huh xd

[misty heart]

if yes, disable the feature in the software

[obsidian girder]

its not about being accidental, its about not banging your fingers on other keys or corners and still feel comfortable using without being ''gimmicky''

[fleet forge]

ive had a knob on my kb for years and ive never actually used it idk

[obsidian girder]

some people have long nails, some people have larger fingers

the given space of the led bar is just not it for size for touch functionality

imo at least

not on the 80he at least

[fleet forge]

i mean it is very little space and chances are many times youd press the up arrow tryna slide on it or get caught on the buttons above

[obsidian girder]

exactly

and from a designers perspective you want a good user experience

same reason people lost their mind when apple removed the entire F row with touch

[fleet forge]

that shit was so stupid

[pseudo parrot]

thats when i stopped buying macs

glad its back now

[obsidian girder]

not saying touch aint ever a good idea, but theres time and place for it

[fleet forge]

first and only mac i ever bought was the m1 one. just cz its straight up the best notebook since you dont need a wall after 3 hours

[obsidian girder]

great mac

especially the mac air m1

[fleet forge]

ye thats the one i got

[obsidian girder]

at that time it was undisputed

[misty heart]

I know that touch can be added on top of the existing led strip. It's easy solution. Didn't introduce myself that I'm a tech guy with PhD and I know from firsthand experience.

[fleet forge]

this guy doesnt get it

[pseudo parrot]

yea i love m# macs. my i9 ran so hot i couldnt even keep it in my lap

[fleet forge]

the issue is not if its possible. im sure it would be. the issue is its bad design cz theres little space and it would be a frustrating user experience if you keep pressing or getting caught on the buttons around the led strip

[oak jungle]

so there is no use for the new features ? coz cs2 banned them

[obsidian girder]

m1s are great, just a shame they ''were early'' and needed rosetta and stuff so not all x86 programs were compatible with the arms and stuff

[misty heart]

And I've allready told you that if you are pressing it you can disable it in the software package

[fleet forge]

reading comprehension = 0

[pseudo parrot]

lots of apps have an arm version now so dont think its as much of an issue anymore

[fleet forge]

eh my m1 was only for browsing and other light stuff tbh. so i didnt mind it. but i see itd be an issue for "Power users"

[vivid merlin]

Just explain in simpler terms - maybe comfortable for you but not for all

[obsidian girder]

less of an issue now

[pseudo parrot]

had an m2 pro but returned it since software i need just isnt a good experience outside of windows

[obsidian girder]

but the mac pros etc, smaller differences and uses from pro -> air for example

[misty heart]

If it's not comfortable for you it can come with touch pre-disabled and those wishing for media control can enable it and be happy

[quiet lynx]

dude the keyboard is already fully finalized and in production

[obsidian girder]

this is the same idea as putting the charge port of your mouse on the bottom cough cough not pointing fingers 🍎

[vivid merlin]

So why invest in something that most likely 80% of users wouldn't use

[obsidian girder]

for those who want to charge can just turn it around or charge at night

for those that dont are happy

[misty heart]

Those asking for a knob will use it

[quiet lynx]

I would not use a touch sensor led

[vivid merlin]

Don't you think people asking for a knob want a knob and not a touch sensor?

[quiet lynx]

from a ux standpoint it would probably be impossible to get it to accurate volume increments

[fleet forge]

i dont understand why you keep arguing for it when its 100% not happening

kb is finalized and its not being added

[obsidian girder]

you could have a 2 zone haptic touch bar

but thats a different topic

still need more space tho

[misty heart]

Yes, but further revisions will be produced and it could be an idea for the future

[pseudo parrot]

personally im not convinced with touch on a keyboard. how would you accurately provide feedback since your finger would likely cover the led bar area

[icy cosmos]

I thought we where talking about the 2HE remake

[fleet forge]

im pretty sure its about the 80he

[obsidian girder]

thats less of an issue

[fleet forge]

at least i assumed so

since its about the led strip

[misty heart]

Lycosa was with touch and it was ok

[icy cosmos]

And you can add anything you want to your 80HE once you get it. @misty heart show them that you can make it happen

[obsidian girder]

[icy cosmos]

Like how I will drop the RAW case in salt water to test the patina

[pseudo parrot]

lol

[quiet lynx]

I'ma put mine in the dishwasher

[fleet forge]

tape this to your kb

[icy cosmos]

Maybe that first 🤣, a second thought. No I will do the salt water directly. Not going to affect the coating

[obsidian girder]

metal patina 💀

thats wild

@misty heart do you have a hotswap keyboard atm?

[quiet lynx]

I wonder if it would be possible to pull the actuation point of a key via the sdk and have volume go down at like 0.1mm - 2mm and volume go up at 2mm - 4mm

[midnight iron]

knob was already confirmed, don't know why we need to argue about it. The community has spoken and we have named it the moist collection

hail to our moist future

[icy cosmos]

Does it have soft touch surface?

[midnight iron]

it is moist, that is all we need

[obsidian girder]

ew lmao

imagine designing an ''almost always kinda wet'' volume rocker 💀

[fallen epoch]

Jed turning into the Moist Messiah is the number 1 thing i didnt have on my bingo card

[obsidian girder]

every time you turn down volume its like touching a wet sock

[midnight iron]

we were denied our lekker pro naming scheme, but I understood the issue. A lack of branding and marketing. We will not be denied our new chosen name

the moist era has begun

[obsidian girder]

moist is already taken tho isnit

[midnight iron]

not in switches and knobs yet

we can be the first

[obsidian girder]

thats like making ferrari keycaps

brand still exist yk

[midnight iron]

it's okay moist esports is understanding and will love our branding

[obsidian girder]

lmao

real

[quiet lynx]

wooting knob is actually just a faster actuating door knob

[valid comet]

morning wooting gang

[valid comet]

moist 👀

[ebon vine]

Is this a legit website to buy quality keycaps from? Thinking about making my fiance a board. She is currently using like a $30 Amazon pos lol

[pseudo parrot]

i am somewhat certain this website sells fake gmk keycaps

[ebon vine]

Yeah I was wondering cause the website was loading slow and being weird

[atomic brook]

gmkkeycaps?

ya definetly fake

[ebon vine]

Damn okay I’ll have to look somewhere else

[atomic brook]

region?

[ebon vine]

US

[atomic brook]

https://www.reddit.com/r/keycaps/comments/1aces0u/places_to_buy_keycaps_setsartisans_spring_2024/

omnitype is in the US

[midnight iron]

not bad, bout a week and a half to get my order edit done

was only worried i'd miss batch 1 on the white wrist rests, but thankfully seems plenty of stock of them

[pseudo parrot]

pretty good

[keen agate]

keycaps so expensive

sad

[oak jungle]

yeah for no reason

coz dumb ppl paying all this over worthless keycaps and they think their product is premium

[icy cosmos]

Good evening

[oak jungle]

85days left for the second batch

[icy cosmos]

I admire your courage. I went with black because I know I know the white will be tainted in time 😅

[atomic brook]

august has flown by

[oak jungle]

yeah

super fast and I hope sep do the same

[icy cosmos]

Time waits for no one

[atomic brook]

sep will be busy for me

[oak jungle]

nice

[atomic brook]

thankfully

[oak jungle]

what about oct

[icy cosmos]

October is (80HE)coming

[atomic brook]

ill be getting it at the start of october

hopefully

[oak jungle]

I hope we don't face any delay coz Nov is max for me if it get delayed I'll just cancel it

[icy cosmos]

Your faith is shallow

[oak jungle]

yeah kinda right

[midnight iron]

I’ll just buy another one if I need in a year if it’s too dirty. I have a black tkl wooting one already lol

[restive bay]

Im praying everyday to cancels in EU-Kampionen

but this guys are rock solid, blind faith

will have to wait until 2027

[restive epoch]

is the wooting TWO HE as good as the 80he? or will there be a updated model to the two HE ?

[restive bay]

80he is better in polling rated and glasked mount

plus the size IMO is better for my needs

[restive epoch]

i do pref the larger board but i kinda want the 8k polling rate on the two , idk if its worth waiting for a updated version of the two HE

[valid comet]

in terms of performance you probably wont feel much of a difference but the 80HE does have some more advantages and QOL. Two HE is still nice especially if you want a numpad

Two HE is quite easy to vlean tho and has a cable gutter if that matters

[restive epoch]

hmm but there is no new info about a new two HE 80 soon i guess?

[buoyant solstice]

A what now?

[restive epoch]

idk prob should not call it that but yea you get what i mean i hope

[buoyant solstice]

80 refers to the number of keys (roughly)

You literally just described an 80HE 😄

100HE if anything. Or if we'd decided to keep the old naming scheme, 2HE+ / MK2 or something.

[atomic brook]

ngl 100he sounds weird

anything with 3 digits or more sounds weird

[restive epoch]

oh allright makes sens i guess idk my brother told me to get a wooting so i pre orderd the wooting two , but now im kinda doubting to maybe wait for a updated TWO HE

[quiet lynx]

you'd probably be waiting a long time unless wooting is secretly hiding it

[restive epoch]

well yea thats what i was trying to figure out if there is any plans going for a new version but if not i guess i stick to my decision

[quiet lynx]

tbh 8k polling even with them matching the scan rate n everything

is negligible

[restive epoch]

allright thanks

[atomic brook]

even if it got announced

you will be waiting half a year minimum

or at least the feedback and the production period

[quiet lynx]

if anything you could get the new lekker switches

[atomic brook]

for the 80he this has been from march to october

[copper flume]

i say order now while Two HE exists

[restive epoch]

Yea well thats more the info i needid , will stick with the pre order and maybe next year look for a upgrade then. Thanks for the info

[quiet lynx]

is it wrong to velcro my wrist rest to the keyboard

I move my keyboard a lot while playing games

idk how I feel about the non attachable wrist rest

[atomic brook]

no lmao

its logical and normal

dont worry abt it

[restive bay]

I think its too early tho, What if you swap me your first batch and I give you mine

you will love the keyboard even more

[radiant snow]

Does it mean the keyboard won’t work?

[toxic zephyr]

no

[radiant snow]

Or it will work but the snappy taps won’t

[toxic zephyr]

also no

[atomic brook]

scroll down the article

and read

[toxic zephyr]

the feature will work, but you're just gonna get kicked from the game

[radiant snow]

Possible to disable it when playing? Or when I’ll want to play I’ll have to switch

[toxic zephyr]

you just disable it like any other feature

it's not forced on or anything

everything can be configured

[radiant snow]

Ohh ok

[sour saddle]

What do yall think about the sound of the new switches in the 80?

[fallen epoch]

Quite nice

[spring oar]

Like it

[harsh anchor]

Guys what’s the price difference between 80 and 60?

[jade widget]

Prices are all on the website

[verbal solar]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-man-rain-sad-guy-anime-sad-anime-gif-6726793946666195668

[verbal solar]

cant find portuguese keycaps in portugal

from august to october

[dusky tiger]

it would have been here today if not for the delay

but it is what it is

[restive basin]

what was the dealy for

[dusky tiger]

there was some point of failure, they resolved it

[restive basin]

sad day in the kingdom

[icy cosmos]

Everyone has been moved to October 😅

Now back to slumber…

[azure hamlet]

Does it matter if we use usb-c or usb-a peformance wise ?

[buoyant solstice]

No.

[azure hamlet]

Could you be more spesific please, a friend says it may matter, but i say that in usb a 3.0 we got 5 Gbps with data tranfser so it wont matter, is that the right "way" to look at it ?

[fallen epoch]

Wont matter cuz even usb 2.0 works

[burnt cradle]

When is the new video ?

[icy cosmos]

You should question your friend about what he means by “may matter “ . The answer to your question has been provided by staff.

[full halo]

i dont know if this is the correct channel to ask this? my windows key would get stuck sometimes and i need to unplug and replug the keyboard. is there a way to trouble should if its a programmatic thing or hardware?

[atomic brook]

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/167181566978555904

either that or https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1019755933959733258

probably the latter

[hushed sphinx]

I need switch lube don't I? Oops.

[spark hound]

All lekker Switches are lubed

[buoyant solstice]

As are jades.

[hushed sphinx]

Okay, sick. Thank ya ❤️

[worldly pebble]

how long does it usually take to process a refund?

[verbal solar]

A week ago.

[upper garden]

send me some sumol and natas and i'll get you some keycaps !

[hushed sphinx]

I was starting to get to a point with my current keyboard that I needed to go all out for the sake of better rhythm game scores

[worldly pebble]

if your switching to he from normal mechanicals its def a learning curve

[verbal solar]

Deal

[hushed sphinx]

Ye, I realize it. But I desperately needed lighter switches to not get carpel tunnel and it will definitely be better in the long run

[upper garden]

🫡

[verbal solar]

Do you want ketchup on your natas?

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-cat-gif-8216273864367202904

[worldly pebble]

you using 60s?

[upper garden]

do you want missing letters with your key caps?

[verbal solar]

Ye, I don't want hong kong or russian symbols

Also only need 80

Not 110

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/ups-oops-gif-25712345

[upper garden]

why not 150?

[verbal solar]

When you realise there are so many keys and you memorised every milimeter of each..

https://tenor.com/view/yuta-okkotsu-gif-13733168331575195024

Rip sleep

Gn chat

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-fight-jujutsu-kaisen-fight-yuji-gif-14791240713988465127

gn

[verbal solar]

Still waiting my 100k guests role

[worldly pebble]

you miss the party?

roles gone now p sure :V

[verbal solar]

Ima kill all of you

[upper garden]

mansen been waiting years to become 100% duck but he's still half man

we dont always get what we want

[worldly pebble]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/717080687932604456/1099298177808617492/hood-irony-horse.gif

[verbal solar]

Time to start my 100kkill

I'll ace the role

and then spawn(camp)farm your miserable souls

Gn.

[hushed sphinx]

Mx speeds rn. This will be my first wooting (when it gets here) c:

[simple saffron]

38 days till my wooting

[analog jungle]

You have high expectations, a 2 week delay ended up being 6. better hope nothing else happens 1 day will turn to a year.

[dusky tiger]

What's 17 more years

[analog jungle]

Exactly

[toxic fulcrum]

late november is crazy

[uncut stone]

ermmm

how to activate beta updates to get the "rappy snappy"?

nevermind 😮 #📰│wootility_updates message

[dawn yoke]

How can I create an account

On the website

[low token]

@dawn yoke how it worked. You buy keyboard and you get email about creating account in hub. But it has to be same email you used to buy keyboard

[runic canopy]

we hope not later than that

[atomic brook]

40 Days.

[humble oyster]

I converted

[solid siren]

keyboard took so long to arrive a quit playing video games all together b4 it even arrived 😭

[vocal pecan]

i just ordered mine

ghost pcr case

[undone latch]

hmm gateron is announcing 5 new magnetic jade switches tmr

anybody waiting to check those out?

[toxic fulcrum]

That’s what I’m saying

[humble oyster]

erm is it supposed to be pending

[valid comet]

if it says pending after the next few days send an email to wooting support with order number and they should be able to fix it in a few days!

no worries this happened to me and my 60HE+ order

[humble oyster]

ah ok

[humble oyster]

now time for the 3 month wait

good thing my friend is loaning me his razer cause he bought a two he

my apex 5 has a 50% chance of the n key working

[icy cosmos]

Sounds like a healthy detox or white months ahead.

[verbal solar]

Now you can resell it and improve your life

[humble oyster]

honestly I just need a good keyboard to type on lmao

[woven drift]

theres a few amazon boards like the f87 or f75 that are pretty decent to type on

I personally using a Lubed Apex Pro (2019) and its pretty decent. The omni point switches are a joke tho.

[humble oyster]

I literally had an apex pro ordered and then I saw they don't do analog even though they totally could and switched to wooting

[woven drift]

The apex pro from 2019 and 2023 both have analog switches on the 60%% part.

[humble oyster]

I couldn't find anyoe sayig that

oh and as you can see my n key gamble failed

[woven drift]

That being said I wouldn't recommend it tho. The Apex PCB or Switches seem super sloppy. Not like key wobble but the actuation sensitivity. It seems like it has a error of +/- .3mm

Funny enough the roccat/Turtle Beach Vulcan 2 Pro TKL is one of my favorites once you add aftermarket key caps

It has Gateron KS20s that sadly are soldered but are factory lubed.

[humble oyster]

huh

I burned bongocat into the apex 5 screen

[woven drift]

I made my bongocat gif slightly offset between the frames so hopefully it wont

doesn't really matter since my 60HE gets here tomorrow and the wood case next week

[humble oyster]

[valid comet]

how do you solder magnetic switches

arent they like glued down?

there are no need for sockets

[buoyant solstice]

Unless they have a custom housing where the alignment pegs are somehow made from metal that can be soldered onto, they definitely don't have anywhere TO solder to 😄

[valid comet]

my guess is they have a custom housing which is really stupid

[toxic zephyr]

they have soldered their custom LED to the pcb and it comes through the bottom housing

effectively locking the switch in-place

[upbeat berry]

i was sure the ks20 has no through switch led hole

[buoyant solstice]

Isn't it just the window? Would be pretty easy to just use a differnent top housing with a gap for the LED.

[upbeat berry]

idk if its a ks20 then though

the ks20 page specifically states it only supports SMD leds

[buoyant solstice]

[upbeat berry]

yeah i cant find another magnetic switch theyd sell OOB that has through hole led support

[toxic zephyr]

it's not a normal smt led

[upbeat berry]

yeah i cant find anything on the vulcan 2 pro tkl actual switches

[upbeat berry]

yeah ive seen images they do use through hole not smd

[toxic zephyr]

look at nyumi's photos

[upbeat berry]

but no default ks20 would allow this

[toxic zephyr]

must be custom then

[upbeat berry]

most likely

[upbeat berry]

which prob means reused pcb layout so they dont have to use smd leds

[toxic zephyr]

to me it should be possible to have something through here right

[upbeat berry]

but can reuse through hole

[buoyant solstice]

That's what I said. But you'd still need a custom upper housing that isn't opaque

[upbeat berry]

if you custom order them with modified top housing yes

[toxic zephyr]

i don't really care anyway, it's garbage anyway

[upbeat berry]

by default its solid plastic as they are meant to be hotswap with all smd below them

[tidal sleet]

can u even put normal switches on the 80he?

[tight cypress]

Define normal

[tidal sleet]

mechanical switches

[tight cypress]

Well... no, you can't

[pastel edge]

I need a membrane 80he

[tidal sleet]

calslock hows the uwu num pad going?

[buoyant solstice]

Only compatible HE switches - goes for all of our products.
#🪛│modding_faq message

[onyx raft]

Just cancelled my kickstarter for the Keychron K2 HE to get the Wooting 80HE. Seems like a better product overall

[buoyant solstice]

[small rune]

Any plan for cnc 80he case currently?

[buoyant solstice]

No, never.

[jade widget]

Somebody might make one some day, just not wooting

[buoyant solstice]

We decided to go with casting moulds very early on due to throughput and cost.

Milling a case like the 80HE Zinc case would be hilariously expensive due to all the angles, and we wouldn't be able to fulfil all of the pre-orders anytime soon.

Only milling we do is the USB port on the case.

[restive bay]

Im still on time to order both zinc and PCR ABS plastic cases as EU-Brug right?

[humble oyster]

hmmm is there a public 3d file for it

[woven drift]

Took the Vulcan II apart again just to confirm and it indeed soldered. Similar to the Apex Pro. Didn't try desoldering the switches as it not my board. Seems like custom housing with similar construction to KS20s/Jades (not dual rail). Is factory lubed though.

[tight cypress]

Will be soon, after first batch ships

[valid comet]

i see

[heavy badge]

WOW

[humble oyster]

ooo yummy

[violet garnet]

HK moment. EU is 2nd and US is last

[sour saddle]

lucky one

I really would like to be in the first batch too

[humble oyster]

idk how my friend got his two he in 2 weeks

[humble oyster]

Me in cali gonna sit here for 2 months

[sour saddle]

😢

[violet garnet]

42 days at the very least for me

but could be 2 weeks past that

[woven drift]

Two he and 60HE has faster fulfillment currently. 80HE batches are either in production or just wrapping up production.

[sour saddle]

Fucking 2.5 Months till I recieve my Keyboard ffs

If not 3

[violet garnet]

how long have you already been waiting?

[sour saddle]

June

[woven drift]

NA bridge? or NA Champion?

[sour saddle]

Wdym?

[violet garnet]

I ordered back in april

[humble oyster]

is bridge second wave? I assume so

[violet garnet]

where did the time go?

[violet garnet]

it's EU-Brug, it's in the image

[sour saddle]

Ye

And my discord role is the same batch

[woven drift]

ooooh. Bruh I thought you guys were in the NA batches.

[sour saddle]

Nah thats why it's such a pain to wait for so long lol

[violet garnet]

just forget you ordered it and be happy whenever it arrives

[verbal solar]

He works there 😅

[woven drift]

Are the 60HEs in stock for you EU folks or nah?

[sour saddle]

Imagine we got some nice goody when it arrives and everyone gets somewhat of an "compensation" for the delay etc. 😄

[humble oyster]

I wish

[verbal solar]

Nah, I just wanted founder written badge or something

[sour saddle]

yes

[verbal solar]

A keychain or something

Or a written letter with a red lipstick kiss from the founder

[humble oyster]

resin mold

[verbal solar]

Romantic

Brb

[sour saddle]

I'd prefer bathwater

[humble oyster]

nah nah nail clippings

[verbal solar]

Weirdo

[humble oyster]

clearly

[sour saddle]

Basically a keychain would be lit

[humble oyster]

wooting founder bathwater watercooled 80HE

[sour saddle]

wooting founder bathwater shine-through keycaps

[humble oyster]

just little keycaps that have water in a gap or smth??

just use the water to make lube

[sudden grove]

Is it just me that feels like the date of the keyboard coming gets longer and longer . Last I saw was Sept . Now it's Nov

[woven drift]

They had a production delay that pushed stuff back 6 weeks

Thats why i jumped ship and got a 60HE since it was in stock.

[sour saddle]

Nah fuck that 60% layout

And the sound is also meh

[sudden grove]

But you haven't paid for the he80?

[sour saddle]

He got a refund

[woven drift]

Technically i paid for a 80he..... for like 2 days

hehe

[sour saddle]

Do you think the order could be delivered earlier than the estimated month?

[sudden grove]

I would be surprise if it can even be delivered by this year

[woven drift]

I would say the timeline is likely pretty exact +/- a week or two for shipping and other delays.

[oak jungle]

yeah something tells me there is no way they will ship it in nov 60 days delay incoming

[sour saddle]

Aids

[worn compass]

Bro don’t jinx it

Its literally been 3 weeks since the ic issues happened

[oak jungle]

I'm trying to not to

[worn compass]

I predict (this is a prediction not fact) that mass production will probably start mid to late September……

Hopefully

[pastel edge]

[worn compass]

Maybe early sep?

[pastel edge]

[worn compass]

My last prediction was for positive news and the ic issue got fixed

[verbal solar]

It alrdy started

[worn compass]

:D

[worn compass]

Oh srsly?

It still says pre production on my order

So u sure?

[verbal solar]

Mass production

[worn compass]

Ohh I just read on it

Batch 1 production will be done in 3 days

Than theres gonna be another QA test

Im in batch 2 sadly

[verbal solar]

Ye

But I'm gonna be kapeon or something

[worn compass]

Thats batch 1

[verbal solar]

Founder

[mossy rock]

Geon Raptors vs Jades which one better?

[midnight iron]

geon raw he

beats both

[blissful spindle]

All the geon raw he praise got me curious ngl, i already got jades , no point if it's a slight upgrade

[midnight iron]

it's very jade like sound but tighter stem basically. I wouldn't necessarily upgrade to them if you're happy with jades already

[icy cosmos]

Are you implying that there is an endgame?

[hearty sky]

Can someone tell me the summary of update on 80he that mark and erik told on live stream ?

[tight cypress]

2HE refresh, 60HE 8k release, usual stuff

[jade widget]

Wootility v5 good

Keychron bad

[jade widget]

don't forget the mouse

[minor vigil]

what about the moist collection

[midnight iron]

that's true don't forget the moist collection

[toxic zephyr]

#🌟│wooting80he message seer confirmed

[north egret]

Did they give us a release date?

[spring crow]

2HE refresh?

[tight cypress]

Two HE 2
People were asking "if Two HE is so great where is Two HE 2?" so there it is

[spring crow]

thx (no if only they would release a 0 HE - so I could have that with my 60/80 HE) 💝

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-nothing-matty-matheson-arbys-beefn-cheddars-gone-wild-west-i-have-nothing-empty-hand-gif-26362147

Here's your 0HE

[astral sedge]

7x Additional keycaps: Home, End, Scrl Lk, A1, A2, A3, Wooting logo key

No love for macOS users apparently 😛

[buoyant solstice]

None whatsoever. Those keycaps are what is "missing" from a traditional TKL keyboard, so people can use their home cluster as they see fit.

We've never done Mac specific keycap sets, and I doubt we will.
So few Mac users to begine with, let alone across languages.

[azure hamlet]

if you got nothing good to add it's sometimes better to be quiet. Thx

[buoyant solstice]

I mean it's valid point asking what your friend is referring to.

[astral sedge]

Note sure how much an actual mac keyboard would be different apart from the CMD (CMD and  on old keybaords) instead of Windows keys

[buoyant solstice]

But to answer your question any USB 2 port is fine for a Wooting keyboard.

[icy cosmos]

@buoyant solstice has spoken.

[azure hamlet]

Yes no doubt about that Mansen, was just asking.

[buoyant solstice]

The bottom row is different, and Apple uses media keys on the F row as well as some other weird changes to layer 2 binds.

Like moving the @ to somewhere it has no business being 😄

Apple also has an FN key that is actually passed to the PC through some out of spec trickery with the data lines.

[toxic zephyr]

looks like it's on shift+2 as is usual for lots of layouts

[jade widget]

What is that iso enter that thing belongs in jail

[buoyant solstice]

You should see the Danish one...

Ah yes. Next to enter. Instead of AltGR and 2 like... anywhere else 😄

[pseudo parrot]

yeah was about to send this lol

[toxic zephyr]

zz

[pseudo parrot]

but i like that you just press it, not hidden behind any layer

[buoyant solstice]

At one point it was Shift + 2 for Danes as well iirc my time with my ancient Apple laptop 😄

[toxic zephyr]

yeah altgr+2 for iso layouts seems common

but ANSI doesn't have altgr, so shift+2 is what it is haha

[buoyant solstice]

Anyhow - My point is that Apple does their own thing, and some keyboard language layouts are just cursed beyond what you can change with the bottom and top row keycaps.

[toxic zephyr]

I don't mind either tbh, I use both systems

apple being apple I guess

[buoyant solstice]

Realistically I think there are more Wooting users of languages we haven't the payoff of adding than Mac users with a Wooting who care about what the keys say (or aren't booting into some kind of emulation layer that changes keybinds to match Windows anyway)

[astral sedge]

@buoyant solstice yeah, I completely forgot about the non-US layoutes, the German layout is also cursed because obviously @ is on at +L instead Alt Gr+Q, so first time mac users will do CMD+Q when trying to input an @ and close their program

[buoyant solstice]

[pseudo parrot]

oh the horror

[spring crow]

btw - is there any info on how the 2 HE will differ? while I have the 60HE for example, I am most definitely not the target market as all I wanted was on kb config (with good Ux) and ISO UK layout - remarkably difficult to find for me.

[buoyant solstice]

The 60HE is a 2HE with fewer keys.

It has a slightly faster latency because of that.

[pseudo parrot]

60he is a little more customizable as well. you can case swap it with compatible third party cases

[toxic zephyr]

I don't get why command sort of performs double duty as a "super" key of sorts but then also yoinks functionality from altGr (option on mac I guess???)

[spring crow]

kb is just for work, and truly miss the dedicated arrow keys - but was thinking of getting the 2 HE but if there is a revision?

[buoyant solstice]

Do Apple mice still only have the one button, or is there finally two? I remember having to add that functionality for all of my third party mice to get right click 😄

[buoyant solstice]

No plans to do a refresh on the 2HE currently announced.

[astral sedge]

With the current meta of everyone need to be faster, you should add this as feature, disable 90% of your keys leaving only wasd, space and few others to get 0,001 ms increase in your performance which will make no difference at all in actual gaming

[spring crow]

sorry - misunderstood

[spring crow]

they have two buttons... but they are touch no physical per se. they are set in the mouse settings.

[astral sedge]

@buoyant solstice the apple migthy mouse was the first one that kind of had two. It had one by default but if you configured it correctly tapping right would give you a right click (edit: mighty mouse, not magic mouse)

and touchpads also gained the capability to do a right click with two finger somewhere in the core 2 duo area of Macbooks.

Before that you always did Ctrl+Click for right click and that of course still works today

[worldly pebble]

what did i miss on the livestream

[astral sedge]

Rants abouts a small indie keyboard company duck

[buoyant solstice]

Livestreams are mostly for casual talk and Q&A. We did the meme contest winner announcements as well

[atomic brook]

oh ya

they talked about the keychron rappy snappy one

[jaunty reef]

Will the 60he get 8k or will they release a new 60he?

[restive bay]

you serious? 60he will be 8k polling rate?

[tight cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/hagred-hagred-harry-potter-hagrid-hagrid-harry-potter-shouldnt-have-said-that-gif-20880833

[slate swallow]

wooo

[limpid fractal]

after seeing the news, i got feeling that itll be earlier

unfortunately not

[astral sedge]

cool apparently I own a 60HE 😛

[pseudo parrot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2I4Px6IutE

[astral sedge]

I hope my 80HE order did not magically turn into a 60HE

[sharp summit]

[astral sedge]

Probably just need an adjustment of "owning a 60HE or 80HE"

[scarlet dune]

Hype
Forgets about keyboard then buys motorcycle
Then keyboard coming #Soon

https://tenor.com/view/best-day-ever-gif-5807216

[midnight iron]

new raw looks better honestly

a little cleaner but still metal

[icy cosmos]

Aged like fine wine

[midnight iron]

honestly i think the slightly more polished look will be more popular anyway. The raw raw look was an acquired taste

[sturdy sigil]

me but instead of motorcycle, a bmw 😭

[drifting shuttle]

can't wait to go pro when I get my 80HE

[midnight iron]

best one was still the stonewashed one they couldn't do, but this semi polished raw still looks good

[scarlet dune]

Hype

[icy cosmos]

No Problem, the beauty of metal is that you can work on the surface just like wood. 🪵

[loud pier]

So now.... Valve banned ST and RS.... do you guys think other games will follow suit?

[buoyant solstice]

Time will tell. That's a debate for #⏬│rappy_and_snappy in either case.

[frozen flint]

comepative games might follow suit it could also be that valve reverses their choice if other companies dont

it will end up falling on whats accepted

[hearty sky]

My region hasn’t changed
It is EU-Kampioen
Is that supposed to get changed to hk or something ??

[midnight iron]

no, only some orders were changed

[loud pier]

this is probably time valorant might do the right thing for once

by not implementing this bs ban

[buoyant solstice]

#⏬│rappy_and_snappy

👆

[toxic zephyr]

they changed raw again?

for the.... 4th time?

[buoyant solstice]

Naw.

[loud pier]

still 2 more month of wait

my keycap is taking extended vacation D:

[midnight iron]

very minor change, they added a slight electroplating to make the finish more consistent and final

[zealous oak]

[midnight iron]

so it's very slightly more polished looking now

[zealous oak]

I like it better now

[ripe shell]

They won’t snap tap doesn’t affect val as much as cs

the only difference is it changes input timings, but in val you can shoot as soon as you let go of movement so who cares about snap tap

if your movement is already good it won’t affect you

[buoyant solstice]

If Y'all don't take this to #⏬│rappy_and_snappy , I will turn this Discord around right now.

No going to Disneyland.

[ripe shell]

Rip myb mansen

[tiny tartan]

[karmic canyon]

interesting that singapore orders seem to be fufilled by the NL center (kampioen batch) rather than HK which i thought would make more sense

[buoyant solstice]

Depends on the content

[karmic canyon]

mine is just a zinc 80he

[frozen flint]

i got the white zinc

[karmic canyon]

im not gonna pretend that im some logistics expert, i dont have any understanding beyond distance between the centre and my country lol

[atomic brook]

storage space

NL's big

[midnight iron]

i believe they talked about potentially expanding it to singapore, korea etc in future with more products - but they're starting off with these current countries and items first

[valid comet]

morning wooting gang

[icy cosmos]

Good evening

[loud pier]

Korean don't even need new layout

maybe new keycap

i think there was a time where new layout was used... but there's enough key in ansi that people just use that for korean and have literal 0 issue

people use left Alt for switching between eng/kor so unless they use left alt for actual alt, there is 0 reason for kor layout to exist

[balmy gust]

hello im from HK , is it status will change to HK-GuanJun batch name?

[buoyant solstice]

If your order was going to change, it had already changed. 🙂

[loud pier]

man... that's even later than US D:

[atomic brook]

nah

ur the first batch

that guy is the 2nd batch

US is always last

[loud pier]

I got NA-champion batch.

[balmy gust]

so i dont have to do anything just wait ship to my house

[buoyant solstice]

[balmy gust]

cant wait to play CS2

[fossil tulip]

Hello, when my new order will be transferred to my account?

[loud pier]

nothing but staring my razer keyboard until it get replaced

[buoyant solstice]

Your new order?
If you placed an order, it will appear on our hub within an hour or so.

[fossil tulip]

Yea I just ordered an 80he zinc black

[loud pier]

zinc alloy ally

that's actually pretty fast for ordering now

[tight cliff]

The RAW case looks so nice

[zealous oak]

Which did you get

[tight cliff]

RAW 🤩

[zealous oak]

btw yoiur profile picture is top

🤣

[zealous oak]

One of us

[tight cliff]

Got some keycaps in the mail today too, will have to see how they look once i go get them

[loud pier]

No white crowd 😦

[zealous oak]

I bought some aliexpress set recently for the 80he

[radiant veldt]

Noob question are stabilizers screw-in on 80he?

[unborn fractal]

The raw case is looking absolutely beautiful in the new video! I'm so excited!

[midnight iron]

Yep they are

[radiant veldt]

Cool thx

[minor vigil]

so the current batches shown on the hub are accurate again?

[atomic brook]

ehh

probably

[unborn fractal]

I sure hope not. Mine changed from NA-Bridge (Mid Nov) to NA-Beluga (Mid Dec). I read the update in the #📦│batch_updates channel and they said they'll fix it in a couple of weeks. My ETA was Mid Nov and now it says Mid Dec ☹️

[minor vigil]

im asking since there was a new batch update, was originally in eu brug, changed to beloega, then brug, then last week beloega again and the update on tiesday said that the batches would be updated, but nothing happened, still beloega

[unborn fractal]

I seriously hope they fix mine back to Mid Nov.

[steady escarp]

why are you freaking out if you read the update?

it it says it'll take a week or two to process so just wait?

it's been 3 days

[unborn fractal]

Coz I'm in India and I ordered mine to a friend's place in US (to save on customs). He'll be leaving for India first week of Dec. If my ETA doesn't change, I might have to cancel my order 😢

I know they'll fix it and I have full faith in em. Just the anxiety is a little too much 😅

[atomic brook]

when did you order?

and what did you order

[minor vigil]

lets say founders / 1st batch people changed their order, f.e. from zinc to pcr or anything like that, will they then get the next still unassigned parts, which could have them delayed by 2 batches or will wooting keep them in the earlier batch by giving them parts assigned for people who ordered later, which could result in delay for those people who ordered later originally? like a chain reaction

sorry if its not understandable lol

[unborn fractal]

End of July. 80HE module, zinc raw, 90x L45 and Jades.