🌟│wooting80he

[low token]

They are fine

[dull token]

to me at least its an upgraded tkl 🤷

has all the same keys in a smaller form

[jade widget]

It is missing 3-4 keys a normal TKL would have

Not that I ever use those all of those keys

[dull token]

true, althought not very important keys

most ppl wont notice scroll lock or home key missing

or whatever this is

[late pasture]

I still have no clue what that was used for

[dull token]

me neither 🤝

[late pasture]

[jade widget]

Yall too young

[white thistle]

isnt that copy button?

or paste?

[jade widget]

It's called the menu key

[late pasture]

Fr?

I've never used it

[buoyant solstice]

No one does.

[fair pike]

oooh yeah these look nice, very curious how the reviewers will like the v2 lekkers tho

[valid comet]

true 💀

[summer fiber]

are we getiting another video july 12th?

[valid comet]

friday pog

[tidal sleet]

I preordered the 80he module, will it come disassembled and I have to assemble it myself or just assembled already?

[buoyant solstice]

Module means self assembly.

[tidal sleet]

And stabs assembled or I have to screw in myself

[pseudo parrot]

no need, they're already on the module

[buoyant solstice]

You need to install the PCBA into the case, you need to install switches and keycaps.

[tidal sleet]

If I want to lube my stabs is it ez to screw out and back in?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

[tidal sleet]

Will they release a tutorial on how to do all that like they did for the 60?

[summer fiber]

yes

[topaz anchor]

My first keyboard had a "Turbo" key

[karmic flax]

Does anyone know if these new switches from Gateron are compatible with the new 80he?

https://www.gateron.com/products/gateron-dual-rail-magnetic-jade-mini-e-switch?VariantsId=10811

[buoyant solstice]

#🪛│modding_faq message

I bet it's on the list.

[valid comet]

the module itself should be 90% assembled, just have to put it in a case, get keycaps and switchs

[vagrant haven]

Not the most scientific test, but Sticky Rice seem to work fine.
WASD keys are Sticky Rice, all other keys are Lekker.
Maybe the Sticky Rice registers as being bottomed out a hair before it actually is, 0.1-0.2mm if I had to guess, basically corroborating #🪛│modding_faq. But it also has a shorter travel distance, so if someone is interested in analog it’s not for them anyway.

[next lark]

kinda sucks that the 80he is gonna come with that cheap plastic keycap puller instead of the 60he puller

[buoyant solstice]

You mean the vastly superior one? That also handles SWITCHES?

[next lark]

ive found the wire puller easier to use

[buoyant solstice]

Well you can always go buy any random wire puller 🙂

Just like how you would have needed to buy a switch puller otherwise.

[next lark]

are there gonna be black magnetic feet offered too?

or are we just stuck with the white ones

[buoyant solstice]

The feet aren't magnetic.

But I believe it's one colour for all cases.

[next lark]

oh yeah i meant those silicone feet

would you ever offer black feet in the future

[buoyant solstice]

Time will tell.

[tight cypress]

These are not
Upcoming Jade Mini N will be

[vagrant haven]

Also interesting note, the magnets on the lekker are noticeably larger diameter than the sticky rice. I know that’s not necessarily the end-all-be-all of magnet science. But just an interesting observation.

(Ik it’s not 80HE specific, if I continue this conversation I’ll take it to #🔧│keyboard_modding )

[valid comet]

honestly I think its better because it wont scratch the caps or switches or plates

[tight cypress]

Oh wait, that means that genuine Wooting wire puller will shoot up in price on the collectors market

[valid comet]

this is partly 80HE, UwU, 60HE+ and Two HE+ related but what exactly is dot matrix scan vs parallel scan

[oak jungle]

I have tested this keyboard and I already returned it if I touch the E key slightly register 3 inputs

and spacebar double or triple inputs

when the actuation set 0.1

[low token]

It because it is not he switch. It is optical switch

[oak jungle]

yeah I contacted their support the only sloution was to lower the acutation to 0.4 or 0.5

[sterile dagger]

I’m sure it would be very easy to paint them black

[winged birch]

Isn’t silicone a pain to paint? At least with some durability..

[sterile dagger]

I think oil based paint and some chaulking is all you need

[upper garden]

oh deer

[upper garden]

are those gmk key caps?

[fallen epoch]

You called?

[low token]

No thats SA profile

[vagrant haven]

They’re KAT Iron.

Not sure if I have the enough of the set to transfer it to my 80 when it gets here. Never thought I’d buy a TKL/75/80.
Pretty sure most common sets have those in it though, it’s just been so long since I’ve thought about f-keys.

[upper garden]

man im so bored

[valid comet]

isnt TKL the same as 80%?

[vagrant haven]

depends who you ask

some people would passionately disagree

[valid comet]

or is every TKL 80%, but not all 80%s are TKL

[vagrant haven]

pretty much

[valid comet]

i would like to see one that isnt TKL tbh

[vagrant haven]

i think technically tkl is 85%, but that 5% is wasted space

[valid comet]

true

[vagrant haven]

Some people would say that 5% is the special sauce, but I think those people just don't like ergonomics

[valid comet]

I personally found the 80HE layout at first a bit strange but I never hated it, when it was finalized. Shortly ahter I grew to love the layout more than a TKL and just edging out the 75% layout.

just me personally

[vagrant haven]

Yeh I really like the 80he layout after the arrow keys got fixed

[valid comet]

these are all the keys I need

the others are too much

also like hot there is only the up arrow directly under the LED just for resting my middle finger on the case itself

[vagrant haven]

The f-key spacing doesnt bother me, since vertical space is free on most desks. Otherwise it's basically 75%. I can forgive the extra 4mm or whatever it is

[valid comet]

also I dont use home or end but I could bind them to pgup and pgdn respectively on a function layer

[vagrant haven]

yeh tbh IDK what home does. I can assume what it does, but I don't think I've ever used it or known if it works how I think it does. Pretty much same with end. They're just binds in games.

[valid comet]

thio joe made a vid about them

i assume top of page?

end is bottom of page

[vagrant haven]

thatd be my guess

[valid comet]

actually home goes to the left of the word processor on the line while end goes to thevery right

sorry i keep fat fingering

[agile loom]

home and end are lifesavers when programming, and at least to me way more essential for quck access than pg up/down

but i'm not surprised they made the cut instead, since they're pretty useful when reading

[rain zodiac]

https://youtube.com/shorts/71bZUi-PBoU?si=CDglzcAks9enpO6F

is this what rappy snappy is or different?

[upbeat berry]

rappy snappy is more than simple socd

[winter coral]

It's always hard to bear when you have a good idea and others copy it every second.

[tidal sleet]

Can some1 explain to me rappy snappy and for what it could be useful for?

[buoyant solstice]

Calder showed it off in one of the recent videos, and explained it as well in the 80HE launch video 😄

[sleek spruce]

razer cannot innovate on their own ... its the microsoft of the peripherals industry

[midnight iron]

think of rappy snappy like a far more customizable advanced version of this

doing this last input thing is one of the things you can do with it, but it's not the whole thing

[wind tiger]

rappy snappy is also a "copied" feature from realforce

they call it kill switch

not even sure if realforce had it first, genesis also had a very similar thing for a while already

[red heart]

i dont think everyone would agree

[wind tiger]

absolutely horrid

1.5u escape key 💀

[red heart]

wait i just noticed hahahaha

[wind tiger]

just make it a bit exploded

that is prob the best 75% layout imo

[jade widget]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-nope-mmm-gif-18301824

[low token]

Eww

[wind tiger]

need some red arrows as well?

maybe some soyfaces?

[red heart]

is that a beige gmk with purple legends??

[buoyant solstice]

The retirement home special.

Grey hair and prune juice.

[wind tiger]

kkb violet alert

https://eloquentclicks.com/products/kkb-violet-alert?variant=47124197146962

[tame sapphire]

is the 80he up for delivery yet or is it still preorder

[wind tiger]

preorder

[red heart]

that looks great, unfortunately no international

[tame sapphire]

september?

[red heart]

october

[tame sapphire]

[wind tiger]

big trick, check the product page for the expected delivery time of whatever the current batch on sale is, or if you already bought check what it says for your order

[jade widget]

also big trick, chances of it being on pre-order for quite a while are probably pretty high

[wind tiger]

slowly getting better https://oblotzky.industries/products/kkb-skidata-neo

KKB TA will be insane

[red heart]

that looks good

[wind tiger]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=123197.0

72 dollar base kit

norde kit is 20

[red heart]

the gmk creme and dragon witch not having international/norde kits is very upsetting to me

that looks like something you'd wave around while lost at sea so rescue teams can find you

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-sadism-suffering-happy-pin-kiv-gif-19470753

[red heart]

i wonder if i can add an uwu to my 80he order to save on shipping costs

i need a lil macro pad for volume controls and shadowplay

[errant torrent]

why is there no fn/windows key?

[wind tiger]

super is the more general legend for a windows key

in the extension and R5 kit you also get 1.5u supers

or did you mean on the keyboard they rendered on?

in which case, it's somewhat of a tradition ig?

[errant torrent]

ah okay, i see thanks

yea i meant the rendered one and was confused, i saw it on some other KB's too and was always a bit confused

[tame sapphire]

so erm what ur saying is im not getting the 80he until october

[wind tiger]

if that is what it says

[quasi crater]

kinda wish i ordered the wrist rest as well but my order is already maxed out :(

[red heart]

i think it should be fine, they said they tried to keep it as low as possible so you dont need a wristrest

[quasi crater]

yea, im not using a wrist rest atm either

its probably okay, just heard many good things about it

[bright jewel]

omg this gif hahaha

[zealous oak]

I agree

[strange loom]

What does the "but only got 77.5%" in the rewards section? (80he founder preorder)

[red heart]

it is joke

[low token]

Check your roles

[buoyant solstice]

Uhh... what

[strange loom]

you jokers, is it because the 80HE is 77.5% and not 80% keyboard? - I'm human I swear, but jokes are hard

[zealous oak]

Exactly that

lol

[strange loom]

lmao, ty all, very excited for it :D

[north egret]

I just got the 80HE! ✨

My first HE keeb, I’m so excited! 🤞🏼

[latent mica]

Wdym like u ordered it no?

[buoyant solstice]

They sure didn't RECEIVE it 😄

[boreal river]

[spark heart]

I lost track, when’s the next update?

and when’s the vlog?

[wintry tartan]

hello guys, Can I get some delivery info for 80he ? (2nd batch NA Bridge)
The estimated date of my order was august~september, but It seems like changed to mid october.
I can't find any notice about this delay.
Did i miss something?

[buoyant solstice]

#📦│batch_updates message

[merry grotto]

this looks good - this as PBT would be nice

[wind tiger]

ABS sounds better on most boards

And double shot abs wears different than the shit abs caps most people know

[quasi crater]

I ordered uwu :3 ^^

[broken tapir]

Guys, do you think is worth waiting the 80he or should I get the Two HE ? I normally use a full size keyboard but I feel that the Two will be "outdated" commparing with th 80he ( I do not have major problems with 75% keyboards )

[buoyant solstice]

You kind of answered your own question there.

[oak jungle]

the mount style is dif and the layout so there is no much of dif between them

[sterile dagger]

A more important question is if you need a new keyboard sooner or not. I’m not sure what the batch time for Twos are but it’ll be a few months at least till we see the 80he. That being said I think the 80he is the better option with true 8k polling and all the other new features if you can wait

[lime aspen]

True 8k makes no difference, it's really just layout, mounting style, and wait times

80he also has more customization

[broken tapir]

I will need to change my keyboard soon or later, waiting for the 80HE will not trully impact my life, but buy ealier the Two HE would be nice as well, if they have the same tecnollogy and only the size/build and phisycal aspects will change than probably I will take the Two, now if the 80HE actually bring news regarding technology then I believe I will wait, can you guys confirm if the 80he will actually be an improvemment ?

[lime aspen]

It has higher polling and scan rate, but it's only about half a millisecond faster so it makes 0 difference aside from latency testers

[sterile dagger]

Performance is performance

[austere hornet]

80he will come with the lekker v2 switches also

[lime aspen]

Half a millisecond makes no difference

[fallen epoch]

Hear me out, 80he has curves

[lime aspen]

Laughs in tofu redux

[fallen epoch]

[broken tapir]

Its weird that there is no much content online about the Two HE comapring to the 60HE

[lime aspen]

Because it's not really different performance wise

[buoyant solstice]

Older product.

[lime aspen]

60% is a much more popular layout

[buoyant solstice]

And the 60HE was a bit of an explosion in our product awareness.

[lime aspen]

It's the one that "blew up"

[broken tapir]

I feel that I should wait, it will no be a game changer for me now... but honestly the hype is killing me hahahaha, and my G512 is not even that bad

But the hype about wooting is something Ive never seen in my life

[austere hornet]

https://www.rtings.com/keyboard/tools/compare/wooting-two-he-vs-wooting-60he

oh it didnt autofill the keyboards

just select them yourself

[verbal solar]

Yo can I get a sample

For free

[buoyant solstice]

[slow tusk]

hi

[next lark]

Yurrr

[verbal solar]

So can I get a free sample

[buoyant solstice]

You're more than welcome to reach out to our marketing staff regarding sponsorships.
https://wooting.io/press-marketing

[rancid geyser]

https://x.com/ropz/status/1811135734843376086?t=nPqVyACVhoog69xyS9-UYg&s=19 curious how this will be regulated in pro scene

ropz (@ropz) on X

@nicxCS Yeah, shouldn’t be allowed. Nice work @JimmyMalavong but this is a bit too much, literally a macro/script, otherwise known as null-binds. CS KZers know the effects of this, it basically removes the human error part when you move/strafe. It’s been against the rules and bannable in

Twitter · Jul 10, 2024, 8:29 PM

[next lark]

isnt that basically the same thing as rappy snappy

[shy charm]

Its pretty much exactly the same

[jade widget]

Are null binds bannable? I don't think they are

At least in competitive cs

[magic harness]

Hello!

I am fat-fingering alot when typing, what is a normal keyboards activation point so i can stop fatfingering? xd

Thanks in advance

[next lark]

like 1.5

[low token]

Higher actuation point or diffrent springs

[magic harness]

Uhm, not quite sure what that means 😅

[dark geode]

Y all is it normal that eu brug got moved to early October for me?

[buoyant solstice]

Yes.

#📦│batch_updates message

[dark geode]

Ok Ty

[low token]

Change accuration point in Wootility or Change switch springs to spring that require more force

[shy charm]

nope theyre not, u can just have it in ur autoexec a lot of people use it

there just a some people who think its bad

[buoyant solstice]

Bannable when playing on your own PC?
Bannable at LANs or Tournaments? Different question 😄

[shy charm]

oh mb

havent seen something like it tournments but it might dont see why it would tho cause ur just utilizing the games builtin mechanics

[winged birch]

It’s not, it’s very different. That counter strafes for you whereas Rappy Snappy only cancels a press the moment another exceeds it. It doesn’t counter strafe for you.

[low token]

So wait.. razer implementation counts as macro and wooting is not

[winged birch]

If that is Razers implementation, then yes.

Wouldn’t surprise me honestly

That is exactly what is “too far” with features (imo)

[rancid geyser]

Wooting basically has the same thing

[winged birch]

It’s not really not

[rancid geyser]

You can decide it to be natural or let it only do what the latest key press does. When both keys pressed

[winged birch]

What woot has isn’t cheating, what that is, is however.

[wary geode]

But this, socd, only kicks in if the keys are pressed the dame depth afaik. Razers will just take the latest actuation, it doesnt care about depth which makes it theoretically faster

[rancid geyser]

Interesting to see what happens, ESL approved it during a tournament and Razer a big brand that sponsors these pro teams and events hmm.

[wary geode]

I mean if its allowed then nullbinds have to be allowed too

Which will give this feature to every keyboard available

[low token]

Even i do not care about razer keyboard owners. They will be banned because of razer

[jade widget]

They are allowed aren't they

Could be a fortnite kinda thing where they stop people from using it but implement a scuffed version for everyone

[wary geode]

Well thats the question now, in something like OSU they are banned.
In CS they keyboard is allowed right now but the ruleset theoretically disallows a config script that does this

So the question is now is this the same as a null bind (which it appears to be) and is it going to be treated the same way

[jade widget]

Thing is though rappy snappy doesn't use macros to achieve what it does

[wary geode]

Rappy snappy fundamentally works differently

This is basically socd overwrite which is also banned in certain fighting games

[low token]

Jump trows etc are legal

[jade widget]

Idk about razer implementation people have been saying it's software based

[winged birch]

Ofc it is

[low token]

It is basicly macro

[winged birch]

it presses a key for you

[low token]

But they are not telling them

[wary geode]

Yes read the wording "all scripts are illegal except for..
"

[winged birch]

it’s prob shit too because the keyboard can’t know your exact momentum in game so it can’t adjust accordingly

[wary geode]

Well yeah the implementation is unknows and i think in a real worlds setting a wooting would be faster.
But thats a different discussion all together

[low token]

Is it from esl ?

[winged birch]

I mean, it’s different m. Woot’s implementation doesn’t counter strafe for you so that’s something you’d still need to do yourself.

[low token]

I can imagine optimum tech making video. "DO NOT USE SNAP TAP UNLESS YOU WANT GET YOUR ACCOUNT BANNED"

@winged birch

[wary geode]

Yes that is esls rulebook

[winged birch]

lmao, and he’d actually be right

whoever made that “legal” either doesn’t understand it or is on razers payroll

check him pc and keyboard too

[wary geode]

Rn with the keyboard allowed and the rulebook like this esl is contradicting themselves imo

[low token]

I can imagine razer sponsored players forced to use it. And they would be banned

[wary geode]

And the main esl admin allowed the keyboard so yeah

[low token]

Before adding snap tap

[winged birch]

the keyboard being allowed is fine to me, Wooting has DKS too which breaks every rule of every game when used pretty much. Just as long as that “feature” is against the rules, it’s fine to use the keyboard.

[wary geode]

https://x.com/michau9_/status/1810956975993172151?t=qVvFP_BBd7ESzge4HDkakQ&s=19

Michal Slowinski (@michau9_) on X

@STYKOcs @y4mz_ @nicxCS This keyboard is allowed in ESL tournaments.

Twitter · Jul 10, 2024, 8:39 AM

Allowing the keyboard will allow the feature

It has been used for the past month by pros according to styko

Unless they go and specifcially ban the feature

[winged birch]

Nah, most boards used before Wooting had on board macro capabilities but that was against the rules. It’s fine to ban features, not boards imo.

[lime aspen]

Wootings are allowed yet dks is not

[winged birch]

Exactly

[wary geode]

I agree with this but in this regard no official statment has been made yet

[winged birch]

Very poor on their part

[wary geode]

Thats why im curious if something is gonna come out, the ropz reply is definitely going to start a discussion

[jade widget]

I mean it just came out

[low token]

I will be blocked from razer socials 100%

Because I say truth

[winged birch]

It’s more on ESL than on Razer but Razer is really stupid for adding that as SOCD

rather than SOCD and whatever that it

they should add a warning too, “this is for cheaters only, use at own risk” 😂😂

[low token]

Isint using macro instant ban in valo?

[frail bobcat]

Nah

[simple saffron]

if vanguard detects ur pc doing funny things to any of the data send or received from the val servers and/or Valorant files they brick your account

[sullen carbon]

if you mod in others game like rdr2, vanguard could ban you from detecting mods from rdr2

[cosmic dome]

The amount of games I mod on my PC is insane and I have never once received a ban from vanguard so I'm not entirely convinced about that

[sullen carbon]

its a possibility

i think i can find you a example

[cosmic dome]

Where did you hear this from

[simple saffron]

aren't those bans due to poorly coded programs and stuff that accidentally mess with the vanguard process or smth

[sullen carbon]

saw a random video on yt

[cosmic dome]

I don't know if I believe that simply because of my own testing

I know people that legit cheat in other games but not in val and it doesn't do anything

I haven't tested that part personally because I have no interest but the amount of modding I do of all sorts is pretty wild

In games outside of val

[sullen carbon]

alr

it was possibly just something to get views then

[cosmic dome]

The thing is

[simple saffron]

you got the dmc5 plastic chair mod?

[cosmic dome]

When you hear stuff like that you gotta remember that cheaters themselves don't get banned until after playing a match a lot of times

They get banned mid game or early in the game usually

[sullen carbon]

true

[simple saffron]

keyword usually

[cosmic dome]

I can't speak too much outside of that in particular just cause I don't know for sure but

[simple saffron]

the only time I've had a cheater in my match that got banned, they got banned when I was on the win screen

funny thing is the cheater was on the enemy team and they dced

[cosmic dome]

I've run into 5 cheaters that were banned mid game over a few k hours

Actually pretty good ratio but

Yeah I mean I don't have cheats installed period but i do a ton of single player game modding but one disclaimer

I am very good about what services are running on my pc

I put a lot of detail in startup services etc

I'm shocked that vanguard doesn't conflict with the millions of other anticheats though

The detail I put in startup services could be what protected me so consider that too but its unlikely

[rancid fossil]

When I first heard about Wooting, I remembered the Flux keyboard

Which is still in its prototype phase I think? But still quite interesting

[low token]

It is cool Concept to put on wall

[midnight iron]

it’s impressive they’re still stringing people along in that flux kickstarter

[jade widget]

Don't worry they're offering 75% refunds if you want to pull out

[midnight iron]

The most crazy part is they keep telling their audience the pilot run is about to begin and delaying that constantly

Yet they’ve never even showed video of a real fully working flux keyboard

[upper garden]

what happen to the german girl? shes been to quiet lately.... to quiet

https://tenor.com/view/miahsgifs-head-turn-spongebob-gif-19234132

[oak jungle]

which one

[upper garden]

theres more than one?

https://tenor.com/view/water-balloon-cry-boy-child-fear-gif-24749838

[oak jungle]

aha you meant the obsessed with wooting girl ?

I think she got married yeah ?

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-no-telling-gif-24604327

recently? oh congratz to her

[upper garden]

i have no idea

im just trolling, shes nice and always helpful

[oak jungle]

yeah good vibe good vibe

where is my keyboard ?

[upper garden]

hopefully the production finishes tomorrow

thats what they said

[oak jungle]

yeah man I'm tired of this broken keyboard

no spacebar yeah ?

[upper garden]

same bro same. im running on a 60% ducky one 2 mini where it double types like crazy, etc

[oak jungle]

holy mother ducky one 2 still a thing ?

I got apex pro tried to lube the stabs and I broke the wire

it's shacky as hell

and I have to press it like two times to register one input

[upper garden]

no idea tbh

i was about to get another one with a metal case and swappable switches till i heard about wooting and decided to get it. I usually dont spend $400 CAD on keyboards

[oak jungle]

well if they what you really prefer worth it coz you could smash the keyboard for years without problem

ppl pay way more for girls and the eventually cheat on them

[upper garden]

well i know the wooting going to last me for a long time and if something breaks i could always switch parts and mod my keyboard for the first time so this wooting keyboard going to be my forever keyboard tbh

[oak jungle]

4 years warranty is insane

[upper garden]

fs thats why i went with them

i also like how this company communicates well to their community and even put out helpful videos for modding and etc

[oak jungle]

yeah I have tested their 2he snappy as hell I never felt something like this with Razer or corsair or logitech or even steelseries apex pro

[upper garden]

like waiting for a keyboard really sucks but if you keep me updated i cant be mad ya know. Cant say that about walmart damn scum bags

[upper garden]

really

im excited to test out their software tbh

[oak jungle]

when you use it for the first time you wll feel the dif man

I returned the 2he and tested Huntsman v3 pro the quality garbage I returned it for the 80he

[upper garden]

thats what im hoping for

hell yeah brother, im done with razer

i loved their viper ultimate but the software is just so trash i just went with logitech gxp superlight 2

i was looking at the huntsman v3 pro too

[oak jungle]

yeah their mouses are great tbh

but their keyboards garbage

[upper garden]

hopefully i like the 80he though and i get use to the size since i been playing on a 60% for like 5 years now

kinda upset theyre getting rid of the viper ultimate shape

[oak jungle]

I have tried the 60% I can't man without F keys neither arrows

[upper garden]

thats fair

i dont really use those keys but i just wanted to test it out

i also love how the 80he sounds. Its like a thoc typing sound which i really enjoy

[jade widget]

[oak jungle]

LOL

I never used keyboard with gasket mount I need to touch it and type on it

[upper garden]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-typing-keyboard-cute-gif-17603629

[upper garden]

fr same

[daring solar]

changed to september 💀

[sacred magnet]

They explained it in a video

[daring solar]

Which one??

[sacred magnet]

newest one

[lime falcon]

razer software is fine now, i mean the new razer synapse beta software

better than stable version

[spice condor]

I Order it and i hope it will arive in oct

[sleek lynx]

Mine changed to mid October

[upper garden]

their software was acting whack for me recently so i changed to logitech

[dusky tiger]

wait so

what's the earliest delivery date overall?

wondering when YT vids gonna come out 👀

[lime aspen]

I'm gonna guess later side of September/early august

[jade widget]

Mine currently

[upper garden]

mine is aug 20- sept 2

[jade widget]

I do live in the furthest location from the warehouse possible so makes sense

[upper garden]

same bruh same

😦

[limber lava]

Tbh I don’t know if I’d wait 2 months for a keyboard lol

[valid comet]

I have been waiting for over 4 months now

[limber lava]

I got an Apex pro full off of Amazon for $126 and it arrived in only 2 days

[dusky tiger]

I wated since march

actually no, since the start of this year

I initially was waiting for Boog75 to be available in my country in local keyboard store.

Then Wooting80 announced and I went for it. Week after buying it Boog75 was available LMAO

[neat hatch]

whats a boog75

offbrand wooting?

[dusky tiger]

meletrix's take on magnetic switches

makers of zoom75

[burnt ginkgo]

are you singaporean?

[midnight iron]

probably for the best. The boog75 software turned out to be a little scuffed at times

[dusky tiger]

Polish

[burnt ginkgo]

that's actually kinda interesting your local stores carry niche stuff like that. here in the states you'd have to live in a big big city

[dusky tiger]

oh it's giga-niche store

custom keyboard store

[burnt ginkgo]

that's nuts

[nova nexus]

Where at?

[dusky tiger]

"Funkeys"

in Poland, Warsaw

[nova nexus]

Cool thanks for sharing 😄

[wind tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/cirno-funky-fumo-touhou-cirno-funky-gif-23166530

[hearty sky]

Almost 40 days to got.. lets goooo 80he gang

[woven quarry]

More like october

[valid comet]

Yeee

[stable gazelle]

whats the difference between back-order & pre-order?

[buoyant solstice]

Whether or not the product exists out in the wild yet.

For practical purposes it is exactly the same.

[stable gazelle]

thanks

[minor helm]

It doesn’t come with the coil right?

[pseudo parrot]

it does not, comes with a straight cable

[gray yacht]

What looks better on a raw zink case, black or white keycaps?
white = 💪
black = 👍

[red heart]

In between

[dawn merlin]

Yes

[wind tiger]

[livid cypress]

🤏

[midnight iron]

Surely you get some 3rd party keycaps if you go raw zinc

The church of the raw zinc 80he insists on better matching keycaps

[livid cypress]

I got the stock black pbt keycaps

[tight cliff]

Will start with white but looking into alternatives

[livid cypress]

I'll probably get some 3rd party ones down the line but not right now.

[jade widget]

Keycaps need to be matching

[midnight iron]

osume mori are a nice option for muted pastel match

[tight cliff]

Looks clean

[celest laurel]

my 80he order has just shipped let's fooking goooo literally the best company in the world, masterclass in community engagement and communication, can't wait for it to arrive, SOOO PUMPED

[bright jewel]

[celest laurel]

Oh okay my bad xD no biggie, the wait continues. Oh lmao, I was under different impression, I need to put more care into reading emails

not so far away anyways

[dim sierra]

[livid cypress]

It's a month away still

Over a month, almost 2 even.

[tight cypress]

Just 40 more days until 20th

Then Wooting workout program starts - for every hub refresh do 5 pushups

[slim slate]

Is there an option tu use PayPal on checkout ?

[buoyant solstice]

There is not. 🙂

[slim slate]

Ohh

Ok

Tanks

[low token]

It is because people can refund money after 6 months?

[cyan zinc]

Lmaooo

[celest laurel]

stay strong everyone it is coming!

[atomic brook]

one day

[tiny tartan]

Razer yoinking rappy snappy

[low token]

It is macro that would get you banned

[midnight iron]

probably also the fact paypal love to randomly freeze accounts

[merry grotto]

I can't speak for wooting - just own experience with paypal from business side - they are more expensiv than most payment methods - and they love to side with any kind of scammer - again can't say that are the reasons for wooting but I would not work with paypal again, there are so many other options now.

[midnight iron]

i have a paypal business account and started out one of my initial businesses using paypal, but I also jumped off it asap because they love to randomly lock your account on anything minor and you don't get your money in there until it's resolved

[next lark]

paypal has higher fees

[midnight iron]

i love their scummy international conversion fee too, which defaults to automatically converting any transaction into your default currency - but they use their own exchange rate that takes extra money from you

[nova nexus]

Paypal also holds funds until the order is fulfilled. If we ran that 80HE founder's campaign through Paypal they would have given us a few thousand dollars and kept millions for themselves for almost half a year

[tiny tartan]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/9/24194977/razer-snap-tap-mode-huntsman-v3-pro-wooting-rappy-snappy

[rancid latch]

Estimated delivery was “Late August 2024” and now it is “Mid October 2024”. Why?🌚

[hearty flame]

because it took longer than expected

[buoyant solstice]

#📦│batch_updates message

[vagrant haven]

https://tenor.com/view/agt-americas-got-talent-heidi-klum-perfection-perfect-gif-13094170

[cursive lily]

they rlly just copied this idea from wooting and then released it faster huh

[tiny tartan]

Pretty much

[red heart]

not exactly the same

[tiny tartan]

What's the difference

[bright jewel]

its not the same, we we'll release some news on it soonTM

[midnight iron]

one is custom socd which enables you to customize based off which input you want to prio based on order of press, which is higher/lower in the press etc

razers version is like if you took all of that away and only said 'just prio last input between 2 keys'

[tiny tartan]

Oh hahaha classic razer

[inland aurora]

Does sb know if that is a mistake but i got an email and they wrote it will take less time by now but my estimated delivery takes one month loner now. Can anybody help?

[red heart]

#📦│batch_updates message

[winged birch]

No that’d be fine, Razer’s implementation literally counter strafes for you. That’s the issue. SOCD is fine, time based or depth based.

Just not SOCD with the added counter strafing on top.

[midnight iron]

yeah i'm not saying it's an issue or not an issue. Just explaining the rough end result

a lot of people are not realizing rappy snappy is not the same thing as just a last input thing, as evidence from wootings latest twitter thread

[winged birch]

Yeah but that is the key difference between Rappy Snappy and Razer’s implementation. One is just SOCD, the other is counter strafing for you and therefore considered as cheating in most likely every competitive game.

[midnight iron]

yes, that is a thing. You might want to tag the guy asking about it and not me though

[valid comet]

its so hard for me to use KBDFans because they force you to use paypal

[midnight iron]

just fyi you can also do similar end results via rappy snappy re: counterstrafing, although it's not completely designed solely for that purpose like razers simplified implementation

[low token]

It might be because they use optical switch and wooting uses hall effect

[midnight iron]

nah drunkdeer did a similar thing too. They just do the last input thing because it's the easiest one to implement and will be one of the more popular things people will initially mess around with using custom socd

[low token]

Oh really?

[midnight iron]

it's kind of like if you have a stack of wood planks and some tools, then someone else has a wooden shed. Yeah you can build a wooden shed with your stack of wood and tools, but that's not the entire purpose or use of the wood planks+tools and you can do a whole lot more than just build sheds

[winged birch]

Guys. Razer’s implementation is SOCD WITH counter strafing built in. The board counter strafes for you (cheating), Wooting’s approach is nothing like this and is just SOCD.

[midnight iron]

yes we know, it's one way you can use socd, to prio the last input pressed when 2 keys are pressed

you still have to press 2 keys fyi in razers version - unless you were thinking otherwise

[low token]

And it only works on 2 buttons

[midnight iron]

it's drunkdeers scuffed implementation where it was literally counterstrafing for you without pressing 2 keys lol

this is more closer to what aligner was thinking in that this indeed can get you banned

[cedar hound]

Snap Tap 💀💀💀💀💀

We got Rappy Snappy at home type beat

[vagrant haven]

It’s weird they decided to name their implementation “snap tap”. It doesn’t really fit Razer’s “cool gamer😎” style and just sounds kinda awkward. It’s like no-shame “inspired” by rappy snappy, down to the name. Except rappy snappy is catchier sounding and kinda fits wootings more bubbly theme.

At least in my eyes. Maybe I’m a fan boy or not a fan of massive companies blatantly ripping off others.

It’s like store brand cereal. Got that “crisp rice” for half the price of “rice crispies”

[atomic brook]

and the crisp rice has illegal chemicals added

[upper garden]

did mass production finished today or it got delayed?

[atomic brook]

u mean trial prod?

[upper garden]

saw somewhere in their article of youtube video that mass production would finish today

[upper garden]

maybe it was that

[atomic brook]

yea

[upper garden]

so the trial testing is over then?

[buoyant solstice]

#📦│batch_updates message
Latest update

[hidden field]

it was realforce at first brooo

[atomic brook]

btw is there a place for where the zinc sounds?

[hidden field]

https://x.com/TOPRE_REALFORCE/status/1677241992668143616
the first rappy snappy

REALFORCE（リアルフォース）【公式】 (@TOPRE_REALFORCE) on X

【Kill Switchについて】
端的に言えば、「AキーとDキー限定で、キー同時押しを無効化できる」機能になります。
WASD移動を用いるゲームで、かつストッピング（カウンターストレイフ）動作が必要なゲームにおいて、素早く静止することが可能になります。

Twitter · Jul 7, 2023, 9:03 AM

afaik

so yeah even ropz is roasting razer rn
https://x.com/ropz/status/1811135734843376086

ropz (@ropz) on X

@nicxCS Yeah, shouldn’t be allowed. Nice work @JimmyMalavong but this is a bit too much, literally a macro/script, otherwise known as null-binds. CS KZers know the effects of this, it basically removes the human error part when you move/strafe. It’s been against the rules and bannable in

Twitter · Jul 10, 2024, 8:29 PM

[vagrant haven]

On the flip side, basically every TF2 player ever uses null-movement binds (their correct name)

But yeh. Building that into the device natively is like when Bloody mice included built in spray-pattern compensation. And now they’re just resigned to Minecraft PvP jail

[shy charm]

A null bind doesnt counterstrafe for u tho it just nulls the a and d keys making it so both cant be held down at ones, not sure why ropz is comparing this to razer. There are ways of doing this in cs but they arent called nulls cause they dont null the movement keys

[winged birch]

Nah it doesn’t counter strafe, I was schizo.

It’s just time based SOCD.

[vagrant haven]

Yeh idk why he compared them either. Maybe it allows for sloppier inputs? In tf2 it just allows you to jitter strafe quicker on scout.

[rapid basalt]

i was able to see 60he room earlier. is it not avail to check out?

[jade widget]

Got archived and replaced with this one

[rapid basalt]

cools

[desert quest]

Will there be an update video tomorrow (or this weekend)?

[long stream]

Where can I find a list of all the switches that will be compatible with the 80he?

[jade widget]

#🪛│modding_faq message

[long stream]

Ty

[rancid geyser]

Why did I find Rahppy Schnahppy funny 🤣 😂

[valid comet]

why is there so much arguing about SOCD

[oak jungle]

even pros crying about this

nooo ban it noo ban it this is not fair

[drifting shuttle]

can't wait to go from gold 1 to GM 4 with my rap snaps.

[oak jungle]

can't wait till oct so I could play league of legends again

[valid comet]

isnt rapid trigger technically the SOCD of yesteryear though

but why did no one make a big fuss

[oak jungle]

well they afraid that most players take advantage of this feature

why is that I don't know

[low token]

Where is it

[oak jungle]

last reply

[low token]

Where can I find that reddit post

[valid comet]

but what about rapid trigger back in 2019 or 2020

[mellow harness]

just ordered a 80he. by far the most ive ever spent on a keyboard can i get some help justifying this purchase to myself

[valid comet]

it was still an advantage

[low token]

It is based on analogue input which is possible to do

[valid comet]

rapid trigger, basically the fastest kb money can buy, infinite durability on switches because contactless

[oak jungle]

when you using it for the first time I will automatically justify it no worries

[valid comet]

best implementation of rapid trigger i would say, also has analog in and out

[low token]

Man please do not enter hell called custom keyboards before it is too late

[low token]

First and best

[valid comet]

totally agree,the kb is literally made for me

[oak jungle]

I paid like 315$ for razer Huntsman v3 pro to be shipped to me

and was pure garbage I returned it

[low token]

Do you hate your self?

[mellow harness]

ive been waiting to enter hell for a while now you think imma stop now?

[oak jungle]

LOL

[oak jungle]

coz I didn't find it in my country that's why I buy it from us

[low token]

Can you afford selling your soul to keycap, switch, plate, stab, keyboard manufacturers, stores and groupbuys?

[rancid geyser]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/1e0sy1x/wootings_response_to_razers_new_snaptap_feature/

[mellow harness]

i could never fit it within a reasonable budget, but ill do it anyway!

[low token]

Thanks

[mellow harness]

:D

[low token]

I already spent around 1.5k€

[mellow harness]

this will be an upgrade from my logitech G512 Silver. was really upset to see them neglecting analog switches

[rancid geyser]

No idea wtf logitech been doing with the latest releases

Defo turned into a full on advertising company

[mellow harness]

i love the g pro superlight and my 502 x plus. also got the g733 headset a while back (which is a bit mid ngl). been a huge fanboy for a while and this is my first step away from them

[rancid geyser]

Makes sense they used to be making good stuff before now its just sad

[oak jungle]

they updated g915 the new version called g515 still no megnatic switch Yikes

[winged pike]

Everything will change, once they bring out the G703 Superlight....

[topaz anchor]

Logitech just invented remapping your keys

[oak jungle]

LOL even redragong did way better

[topaz anchor]

They called it "keycontrol technology". They gave remapping a name ffs

[oak jungle]

like it something new LOL

[rancid geyser]

Ya.. any day now buddy. Dream big

[winged pike]

well to be fair, they have no need to up their game...
95% of "normal" PC gamers will still buy a Logitech, Razer, Corsair etc.
I too had to first spend some time on the topic before I first heard of the name Wooting

[oak jungle]

well there is apex pro if the don't know about wooting certainly they heard of apex pro

better than razer logitech and corsair

and if they heard about apex pro they will hear about wooting

[karmic phoenix]

from what ive seen, apex pro is closest to wooting

too bad their software is ass

[oak jungle]

yeah and not the whole keyboard is he switches

which is dumb as hell

[karmic phoenix]

i have steelseries headphones and i only use the software to see the battery%

[winged pike]

Honestly I first wanted to buy an Asus Azoth but the software is such a ...... afterwards I searched for a while and now I am waiting for the 80HE (60% isn't for me) ... just have to wait until end of September 😦

[sacred magnet]

😭

[mellow harness]

as soon as i subbed to optimum on yt it was over

[ocean abyss]

How long is the cable for 80he

[mellow harness]

wooting all da way babeeyyy

[oak jungle]

oct now

[winged pike]

since when? oO Thought it went from Mid-August to Mid-September 1-2 Weeks ago? Homepage still says September for EU-BRUG

[oak jungle]

im brug and it say oct

[oak jungle]

nah I meant the delivery

[sacred magnet]

I got the better shippin bc of that 😭

[winged pike]

ah ok ^^

[mellow harness]

same

[buoyant solstice]

at WAREHOUSE

[oak jungle]

warehouse not your house yeah ?

[mellow harness]

on one hand im confused as to why i spent $200 to wait until oct. but im sure ill understand once i get the kb

[oak jungle]

yeah their keyboard is the best in the market worth the wait better than throwing your money at razer or steelseries

[winged pike]

I just read mid-September and calculated about 2 Weeks of delivery, so I arrived at End-September ^^

[oak jungle]

yeah but look at your hube

hub early oct

[winged pike]

didn't read the estimated delivery yet, just oredered a few hours ago

[oak jungle]

aha

july moves super fast I don't know why

[winged pike]

I am looking forward if it really "THOCK"s now 😛

[mellow harness]

im not one to trust marketing material, but they put like a 3 second sound demo in the ad for the 80he

sounds gr8

[winged pike]

that's true, but they labeled it as "pre production" ... while I can't think of a reason to make the production model worse

[low token]

Well it is even thockier if you put l100 spring and cerakey keycap

[winged pike]

If it is as advertised, I hope they will send one to Hippyo to prove that Gaming keyboards can sound nice ^^

[low token]

What batch are you in

[winged pike]

EU-Brug

[low token]

Well they send keyboard to any CC for review. Only you have to wait

[low token]

So you are waiting to october

[winged pike]

yea :/ Am currently using a spare rubberdome from work, since my last keyboard died...

will be one hell of a wait

[low token]

Man i'am waiting since april

[winged pike]

my condolences

[low token]

There is 1 month delay

[sonic kindle]

The og wooting one had a hybrid of a switch and keycap puller included but the 60he and probably the 80he just have a normal keycap puller can we go back to the hybrid it's probably a lot easier than using a flathead like i am now

[buoyant solstice]

Funny you should mention the püller.

It's included with all 80HE's as well as 60HE and 2HE at some point.

Redesigned for Lekker switches.

[jolly tangle]

I want to 3d print my own puller

[low token]

When it was removed?

[buoyant solstice]

Never.

It was a Flaretech only tool.

It was supposed to be reworked for when the 60HE released, but we ran into some issues. So now it's finally ready.

[sonic kindle]

I had to pull 61 switches with the same tweezer I use on my unibrow

[buoyant solstice]

[sonic kindle]

That does look cool tho ngl

What about the other upgrades made on 80 like pc plate, gasket mount, screw ins, better switches etc.

Will those be avaliable on 60

[buoyant solstice]

That would require a complete rework of the 60HE, which is not something we're looking to do right now.

PC Plate and screw ins are already possible with 60HE+ and Module though.

[sonic kindle]

Well maybe one day we'll get the 60he++

[buoyant solstice]

Switches will also automatically be replaced with the V2 switches in new productions.

[lime aspen]

Nah 60he+ extreme

[sonic kindle]

Would love for them to be stock tho isn't it an easy fix since you already sell pc plates

[sonic kindle]

That's awesome I love the quietness of the lekker v2s the closest we can get to a silent he

[lime aspen]

Module already comes with one

[sonic kindle]

Yeah but not many people get the module because they aren't willing to build there own keyboard would love for it to be stock on the actual kb

[valid comet]

wait its not a puller? its a püller?

[sonic kindle]

That's Dutch for puller

[valid comet]

lekker

[sonic kindle]

You mean lëkkër

[valid comet]

AH

lëkkër

[low token]

Is it really called lëkkër?

[valid comet]

btw can I request for an extra black püller along with my 80HE order? I didnt seem to get one with my UwU Stealth

[low token]

It has to be big right

[valid comet]

i mean i am ordering multiple items along with my 80HE Black Zinc, so I dont think it will be an issue

[low token]

I mean "big"

[ocean pond]

just preordered the 80 after running the one from launch
glad to see another kb in this 75-80% style

[simple saffron]

fun fact: it's not

[sonic kindle]

That was heavily implied ëxsävïtätör

[frail sparrow]

is this keyboard worth it

[low token]

Do you need more keys than in 60% layout?

[frail sparrow]

ye

[low token]

Do you need more keys than in 80he?

[frail sparrow]

prolly no

[low token]

It would be your first wooting keyboard?

[frail sparrow]

ye

[low token]

Do you want transparent look?

[frail sparrow]

hell na

[low token]

Are you interested in pcr od zinc alloy

[frail sparrow]

idm

[low token]

And basicly all wooting keyboards have same features. 80he has gasket mount and 8khz pooling rate

If you buy wooting 80he. You will wait up to october If 2nd batch Is not full

[frail sparrow]

aughhh

aigh

did u buy one

[low token]

Because they have 1month delay

Yes I'am in 1st batch

[frail sparrow]

how do u know wt batch u are

[low token]

Name

[frail sparrow]

wt

wait nvm

[low token]

Eu-Kampioen and US-Champion are 1st batch 2nd batch are EU-Brug and US-Bridge

[frail sparrow]

kk

[ocean pond]

where's my brug role :P

[low token]

#📦│batch_updates message

[low token]

Update it in wooting hub

[digital elm]

https://hub.wooting.io/my/account

[sonic kindle]

Yes without a doubt

[digital elm]

wrong link use the new one

Then you do Batch Updates

[ocean pond]

nice

got it

[cursive lily]

That’s the same price as the 80he 💀

[valid comet]

more than the PCR ABS version

[valid comet]

please tell me it was canadian and not us

[oak jungle]

usus

but I returned it

[oak jungle]

yeah and it's worse than 80he sound ugly asf

the feel kinda meh like regular switch not that smooth

every switch has wire like tf is this

[valid comet]

Razer just missed the mark

its sad.

they have really capable rnd but they choose to focus on the number of features and archaic methods

[oak jungle]

they downgraded the huntsman v2

from v2 to v3 was a downgrade

they don't even lubed the switches

and they didn't improve the sound of their board

Yikes 1k polling from thier " 8k " polling which we all know not true 8k

[dusky tiger]

Razer trying to copy wooting is funniest shit ever

[signal sable]

I went to a razer store in London and they claimed their optical analog switches were faster and that they invented some technology first (cannot remember exactly but I think he meant the rapid trigger)

This made me happy for a second until it didn’t work. Brexitland sucks with their £32 import fees

[grave forge]

That’s just the salesman doing his job dawg they been copying wooting for a while

[sacred wedge]

When are my fav reviewers going to have the 80he? someone know it?

[oak jungle]

at least mid sep

you have to wait

or oct

[valid comet]

i think thats because optical analoh requires a much beefier mcu and razer is going to cut corners

[oak jungle]

and after the cut the corners still got high price tag

[valid comet]

getting mine as early as august 20

[valid comet]

min max

[oak jungle]

fr ?

lucky

[valid comet]

yeah

[valid comet]

well i was an early day 1 founder so...

also im part of eu because I am from canada, us gets theirs later iirc

[oak jungle]

you waited for how long ?

[valid comet]

over 4 months including the trailer

[oak jungle]

that's tough

[upper garden]

same bro same, been waiting months for the 80he

[oak jungle]

5 more months and child will be born

[valid comet]

i think this is the longest I have waited for something

[oak jungle]

well worth it

[valid comet]

so true. 💪

if its wooting its auto worth it

[oak jungle]

yeah I already tested on of their keyboards defiantly worth

[valid comet]

@oak jungle i have had a balding since I was 16

[oak jungle]

baold baold ?

bald bald ?

no single hair ?

[valid comet]

well i just shave it completely instead

[oak jungle]

hot females love bald guys

[upper garden]

sorry to hear that

but true beauty is a nice bald head

[valid comet]

oh ye

[upper garden]

100% only boys put other boys down. Men dont, rock that head. The most beautiful people in the world are bald

[cursive lily]

I waited for long as well didn’t have enough to get it day1 of founders but got it like 4days after

[rain zodiac]

does wooting team consider snap tap cheating ?

[valid comet]

you da man man

[upper garden]

the lekker switches are more linear correct? So is wooting ever going to do tactile switches?

[valid comet]

almost all HE switches are linear

there are very few tactiles

[upper garden]

are jade switches linear as well?

[lime aspen]

All of them are

Jades, lavenders, raptors, lekkers

Having tactile HE switches makes no sense

[upper garden]

i just like the feedback from tactile switches

[lime aspen]

Adjustable actuation + non adjustable tactile bump would just feel odd

So nobody really does it

[upper garden]

i never owned a wooting too so thats why im asking these questions

[valid comet]

its mostly to not mess with the magnet

[upper garden]

does your hand get fatigued when playing on the wooting for long hours ?

[lime aspen]

No

Even with really bad wrist issues

Using L60s I get no fatigue

[valid comet]

same

[upper garden]

last time i had a keyboard with linear switches my fingers got hella fatigued but also it was a corsair keyboard 💀

[upper garden]

okay glad to hear that

[lament sphinx]

if anything, your fingers should feel less fatigued using a linear than tactile, assuming they were the same spring weight / operating force. you need to exert more force to overcome the tactile bump

and echoing what was said above, adjustable actuation point with a tactile bump is counterintuitive. you need to overcome that tactile bump, so as soon as you do, you're probably going well past a mere 1.0mm

and if you're not completing letting off the switch, or at least high enough for the tactile bump actuation to reset, you have essentially a short distance linear switch anyways

[dire sorrel]

keycap ideas to go with the raw zinc case?

[jade widget]

Here's what I'm going

[wanton pebble]

nowadays there are only few tactile switches. I dont know why, but cherry tactile's era is gone

[upper garden]

fair enough i appreciate you explaining it to me

[upper garden]

i see my keyboard is like 5 years old so that would explain it

i havent kept up with keyboard tech since 2019 and recently just looked into it

[stoic hazel]

Looks very good i like these color

[somber egret]

not if you bottom out

and if people are using very tactile switches then it's unlikely they are [bottoming out]. But it probably comes down to spring weight and actuation distance and speed at which you are pressing the keys (if you are spamming really fast more likely to spend unnecessary energy)

[lament sphinx]

true. i was more or less making the assumption of excluding the extremes of super light and heavy linears and tactiles. obviously things get more convoluted when you throw in multi-stage springs, plate material or plateless, and all the other stuff

[burnt ginkgo]

From their Twitter post, it seems that they do think they're cheating.

[midnight iron]

i think they were more trying to explain how rappy snappy is different from snap tap. That said it wouldn't have been the thread that I chose to jump into since the topic was regarding how it affects counterstrafing in cs2, which would have similar problems regarding if it's cheating, even with rappy snappy's approach

rappy snappy is definitely a much bigger overall thing than snap tap, since it's going down the path of more advanced custom socd, but in regards to the whole cs2 thing the pros that don't like snap tap would have the same issues with rappy snappy

[buoyant solstice]

Ultimately we aren't fans of trying to intentionally obfuscate any potential functionality that may be considered cheating.

As with the recent osu! drama, using modtap? to do double inputs and trivialising gameplay is easily detectable in replay files, and we wouldn't want it any other way.

So with that in mind, I assume that our implementation of Rappy Snappy will also be something that replays or game engines/DRM will be able to detect based on the input.

[midnight iron]

i'd just assume the cs2 pros will ask for both snap tap and rappy snappy to be not allowed at tourneys, which is fine as this sort of thing has been disallowed in the past anyway

I'm mostly curious if there's an optional last input (and other socd resolutions) setting in rappy snappy

[buoyant solstice]

Yeah that would be the most likely outcome.

[silk hedge]

Video today or livestream?

[buoyant solstice]

Stream

[rocky jewel]

When I was pre-ordering 80HE in mid June, the estimated date was mid August for me, checked it yesterday through the hub and the estimate is October now -_-

Meanwhile, in batch it says that the majority of the orders will fulfilled within a week 😄

So whats the real estimate

[nova nexus]

#📦│batch_updates has the most up to date information

Be aware that if you placed your order in June, then you're part of the second batch not the first

[rocky jewel]

Ah okey, that makes sense then. Very sad though, have to wait for two and a half months 😦

[nova nexus]

They'll fly by, no worries 🙂

[eager sundial]

When you order the 80he you remember for a few days

Then just start to forget about it and the time flies

[low token]

Why buy browns when you have 100+ tactiles

[high scroll]

here from day 1 🫡

[valid comet]

same brother 🫡

[junior pendant]

same

[silk hedge]

Time to ask mansen about a fighting game controller

[buoyant solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/tekken-tekken3-gon-fart-farting-gif-16396597

[valid comet]

is rappy snappy also on the UwU? i feel like its ok to ask because its a 3 key HE device

[tight cypress]

All keyboards mean all keyboards

[silk hedge]

Rappy snappy on the wooting 1 les gooo

Jk

[valid comet]

do we know if the 80HE will have the same rapid trigger tech as the 60HE+ or Two HE, or will it be more like the UwU with up and down rapid trigger?

[buoyant solstice]

Rapid trigger is exactly the same for all of our keyboards?

[valid comet]

the UwU has 2 sliders instead of 1 under rapid trigger though compared to the 60HE+?

[buoyant solstice]

It's exactly the same.

You're thinking of this option.

[tight cliff]

Do you mean this?

[valid comet]

OH that explains it

yes

[buoyant solstice]

[valid comet]

Thanks guys

[tight cliff]

Mansen be fast 🏎️💨

[valid comet]

I remembered my last question

is it possible to request Wooting support to put in an extra black püller (i love that word) in my 80HE order? I woukd like to have one for my UwU stealth as I dont think I have one with it?

[buoyant solstice]

Mnope.

But you can always send us a nice postcard asking politely.

[tight cliff]

You can send that UwU postcard 🕵️

[valid comet]

Thank you duck man

and you too do7J

[buoyant solstice]

It's not that we don't want to include one. But the warehouse is a different company, and the puller is just included with the keyboard in box, it isn't a loose item that we could ask them to include.

But our own offices have a bit of everything, so we might be able to ship you one separately via the postcard. 🙂

[valid comet]

interesting!

Apparently Calder said in the DVT log it was a running change, and I guess I got mine too early LOL

[merry grotto]

the uwu looks so nice - I don't play osu games so I'm trying to convince myself I need it anyway .... maybe as a volume knob alternative for the 80HE? Can I assign volume up / volume down to the uwu keys? Maybe on the left volume down and volume up on the right + play/pause in the middle :x

[pseudo parrot]

yes you can remap it, i intend to use it as a media controller as well

[merry grotto]

good news 🙂 ty

[orchid wasp]

i hard disagree. not a day goes by that im not like "fuck bruh i wanna throw out my current kb so bad"

[eager sundial]

Oh we’ll air

Idrm, I already have an analog keyboard that’s decent its just not the 80he

80he is my endgame

Don’t really need it but it’s want xD

[orchid wasp]

i have a glorious gmk keyboard

like the gen 1

[eager sundial]

ohhh damn

[orchid wasp]

yeah bruv

get me out the trenches where my 80he

[eager sundial]

That’s quite dated now I think? It’s can’t remember when it came out must have beeen like 4 years ago or smth

[orchid wasp]

yeah bruh the software for it is so bad

and like im realizing that a lot of games i play benifit from the hybrid controller/kb input set up

rn im using rewasd to cope but bruv its still sadge

[eager sundial]

Soon only a month and a bit :)

[nova nexus]

Would it help you to learn that the Production Validation Testing (PVT) went well?

[eager sundial]

I have full faith in the wooting team ngl

[orchid wasp]

^still relevant

[eager sundial]

can easily tell they care more about putting love and passion into the product than anything

that’s what matters who cares when it comes

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546

[buoyant solstice]

[eager sundial]

Pokémon enjoyer so based

Now I can play my nuzlockes without getting trolled

[bright jewel]

someone seems a lil bit angry.

[eager sundial]

new controller day

[red heart]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/327147539210043393/1133806091462000750/ezgif-3-148303765a.gif

[bright jewel]

#🎮│game

[eager sundial]

Poor magikarp 😭

[eager sundial]

oops my bad

[orchid wasp]

nah its not like that i completely understand why there are delays and im not actually "mad" or anythign

im just like. complaining to complain. dont actually take me seriously

[buoyant solstice]

We're all in this together.

[orchid wasp]

that being said, im in the trenches and i want my 80he

[orchid wasp]

[slim umbra]

If I order an 80he now, will it arrive at the end of September?

[orchid wasp]

unlikely

[bright jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/bren-gun-cat-no-shoot-gif-23219872

[orchid wasp]

check #📦│batch_updates

[bright jewel]

what does it say for you? https://wooting.io/configurator/wooting-80he?model=ANSI+/+PCR+Plastic+/+Black&lang=United+States&keycaps=none&quantity=1

[tight cypress]

I'd expect early to mid October for now

[slim umbra]

mid September at Warehourse, but i don't really understand what is batch

[orchid wasp]

what i do

[slim umbra]

for everyone or specific places ?

[tight cypress]

Batch is a shipment from factory to the warehouse
Once batch of keyboards arrives to the warehouse it'll be sent from there as soon as possible
So your ETA is more or less when batch arrives to warehouse + delivery time + few days for fulfillment

[orchid wasp]

everyone in batch two i should think

only batch one/founders are potentially getting it in september

[slim umbra]

oh ok thanks you for explanation

[bright jewel]

so depending on how close/far you live of the warehouse, it can be end sep or it can be october, its hard to say tbh

[slim umbra]

And where is the warehourse ? ( i'm in EU btw )

[bright jewel]

in NL then

[tight cypress]

Try to add a keyboard to cart and proceed to checkout, it'll tell you estimated delivery time, like so

[bright jewel]

that that was you in the trenches ;)

[slim umbra]

i'm close

[orchid wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/margotkravitz-gif-20944232

this is me struggling till i get my 80he

[bright jewel]

be strong young grasshopper

[orchid wasp]

[slim umbra]

is it worth it to wait few months for 80he instead of a 60he ?

[winged pike]

Somehow this discord reminds me of a mental support group 😛

[tight cypress]

Pick whichever layout you prefer
If you like 60% go for 60HE
If you prefer TKL, go for 80HE

[orchid wasp]

i mean thats up to you

do you just want a analogue rapid trigger kb and dont care about anything else? buy whats in stock

[winged pike]

I think it always depends on if you use the F-Keys/Arrowkeys or not? If you don't need an 80% Keyboard I would safe the space and go with a 60HE+. I personally also use the keyboard for work so 60 isn't for me.

[slim umbra]

there is no diff between both in features ?

[bright jewel]

we have it all

[nova nexus]

Livestreaaaammmm talking 80HE PVT

[slim umbra]

ohh thanks u

that's what i was looking for

[orchid wasp]

goated image, mods should pin it somewhere

[slim umbra]

i agree

[orchid wasp]

oh its already in pins

[slim umbra]

oops

[tight cypress]

The older version was pinned, fixed it

[orchid wasp]

[bright jewel]

look before you yell

[quasi crater]

I was just wondering, does the keycap sets include media keys? like for play pause skip and stuff like that?

[winged pike]

I think you won't notice a difference in gaming performance between those 2. Except you are something like a gaming-god that can fully utilize the difference between 1k and 8k polling... I tried it with my mouse and seems I am too old and slow

[tight cypress]

Nope, these ones are included with ANSI-US and ISO-UK sets respectively

[winged pike]

Sound and feel should be different, but can't say much about it - that would have to be answered by the Wooting ppl 😄

[slim umbra]

I'm good at videogames but i'm far to a god xD, i think u will focus on the 80HE for the layout but the time to wait make me in doubt

[quasi crater]

ahh :( okay, i guess you could use the A1 - A3 buttons and just remember what they do haha

[winged pike]

you can use the time to do a hobby - like learning to hand-paint keycaps for the ultimate custom design XD

[tight cypress]

There's many 3rd party media keycaps options available and they are quite cheap, for example https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/media-shortcuts-cherry-mx-keycap-set.html

[slim umbra]

yeah yeah xD

is the iso layout azerty ?

[tight cypress]

ISO-FR French is AZERTY

[quasi crater]

ohh, thanks! :)

[slim umbra]

ok thanks u, i often use azerty instead of qwerty so my muscle memory is adapted to it xD

[quasi crater]

ohh, its abs i cant

[tight cypress]

Unfortunately they are not as popular, so most such keycaps will be ABS, they are way cheaper to manufacture

[manic sierra]

wont be shipped till September wtf

[bright jewel]

#📦│batch_updates message

[manic sierra]

yea 27th of august for us

thats basically mid sept

hopefully i can change the shipping addrss cause ill be in school

[tight cypress]

Sure, anytime before shipping

[bright jewel]

[manic sierra]

guys

[tight cypress]

As long as it's in the same country

[manic sierra]

i spilled beer on my 60he

so ive been rlly looking forward to the 80he

sad

[oak jungle]

broke?

or still working

[fallen forge]

what happened to modules (or whatever it's supposed to be), btw?

[buoyant solstice]

What do you mean? Did something happen to them?

[fallen forge]

are they still coming or that idea got canned, haven't seen anything about it in any of the update vids so

[buoyant solstice]

Are we talking about the same thing here? A module is a keyboard without the case or switches. Just the PCB.

That has always been a thing, no changes.

Been possible to order since day 1 of the campaign.

[fallen forge]

my bad, i mean, the addons people mentioned some time ago like volume knob

[buoyant solstice]

Oh addons. No news regarding anything not already covered.

The knob project is its own thing, and we'll share information about it in due time.

[fallen forge]

ah nice, ty

[manic sierra]

i didnt try it lol

dont know if its a good idea to plug it in without cleaning it

[orchid wasp]

question if i buy an iso layout can i softwar change it to ansi and use ansi keycaps?

[oak jungle]

LOL obviously

[manic sierra]

lool

[orchid wasp]

i want some of the extra keys for gaming and the smaller shift but i dont want to type on iso

if that makes sense

[manic sierra]

ive just been being lazy tbh

[orchid wasp]

idk how to explain better

[manic sierra]

after lubing all the keys i didnt want to open it back up again

[buoyant solstice]

No. They are two physically different layouts

#🪛│modding_faq message
Spot the difference

[winged pike]

Calder, Balder and Walder should work together on this 😉

[orchid wasp]

no i get that , im trying to figure out how to explain what im tryna do

i physically want the iso layout right? i want the smaller shift i want the new key next to the shifft right? but i only want them so i can bind them to something for games.

im an ANSI user and i dont want to deal with the funky euro symbols ect. but even if i put ANSI keycaps on a iso kb obv when i press keys/shift modifiers its going to do ISO things. so im tryna ask can is there a way to physically have a iso board but have it do ansi things @buoyant solstice

hopefully my question makes sense

maybe it doesnt but i really have no idea how to explain what im asking

[winged pike]

should be no problem, you can ansign the functionality for each key in the software. so It should be no problem for the € key to print $ etc. (Just an example)

but let the wootings answer just to be sure ^^

[heady basin]

I'm doing this right now. I'm using an ISO layout 60he but the OS layout is mapped to ANSI/US. Works well. It's not a feature of the wooting, your OS handles this. That being said, I may have done a few remap using wootility, I don't remember

[merry wagon]

I do the opposite lol

ANSI Layout but Nordic map

[heady basin]

I just checked and I did not. I just selected an ANSI layout in the OS. I actually bought an ISO layout because I live in Germany and thought I could get back to the German layout. I actually prefer the ANSI layout much more and considered swapping my wooting for an ANSI one ... Maybe I should keep it like this though, I haven't considered that the extra key could be nice 🙂

Still ISO is ugly 😄

[merry wagon]

If ISO didn't have the big enter key I would be using it

[heady basin]

For ecstatics you mean?

[orchid wasp]

oh actually it only allows me to order a ansi keyboard because im in the states

[merry wagon]

yeah, not looks per se but feels

[winged pike]

I have to use ISO-DE at work, so I use the same at home... not interested in switching my typing several times a Day

[orchid wasp]

i wont be switching. im setting it to ANSI i just want the physical iso layout

[buoyant solstice]

You can definitely select a layout in your OS meant for ANSI with an ISO keyboard. But some keys will ultimately need to be rebound by yourself.

And you'll need two keycap sets.

[merry wagon]

the only downsides are that I can't get the perfect keycaps (1.5u '* key doesn't exist afaik, would need to be custom-made), and I don't have <> on my keyboard, which I have mapped to my mouse

[orchid wasp]

works for me, my second question is can i get one in the states? there is no options for americans to order iso (i have an existing founders order for an ansi but idk if its too late to request a change)