🔧│keyboard_modding

[autumn temple]

No idea which one lol ?

[cloud crane]

Redux lol

[fluid ravine]

A case with hella holes or a case that is fully built with not holes

is basically what's being asked

[autumn temple]

case with zero holes

[fluid ravine]

ye

[autumn temple]

https://torontokeyboardman.ca/products/tofu-60-case?variant=42823927464131&country=CA&currency=CAD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23658584154&gbraid=0AAAABDBKsS_QYmztUbaua2-hulYnsKw3Y&gclid=CjwKCAjw8uTQBhAdEiwAVvtJyk7R8vO9g18JCKXhLowqzd8gEqIU_WezWc_AgVZLSR6NlOhXWb3FxxoCdSoQAvD_BwE

U talking about this case?

[fluid ravine]

so point is
depending on how well the case is built and what unique factors and character it can give, it will def influence on how your board sounds

its not all about the switch

[autumn temple]

Gotcha

But dont you start with switch and then build board based around the switch?

[fluid ravine]

pfft no

the other way around

like would you pick a switch like the geon raw then decide what pcb to use?

[cloud crane]

We need rukus pxe 😛

[autumn temple]

I thought it was always switch first

[cloud crane]

Case firstttt

[fluid ravine]

hekkkk no

MX world it would be the case/kit first

but since HE is very performance based
it would be the PCB/Kit first

then the switch comes after

[autumn temple]

@fluid ravine Besides buying a new case cause im not gonna do that right now is there anything I can to make 60 HE V2 sound better? Like is there a better case dampener than the EPDM foam? I definitely 100% prefer the EPDM foam over the silicon bottom case dampener silicone sounds super weird imo

[fluid ravine]

Without knowing a specific goal or problem from your board i can't say

I dont know what would be considered better to you as well

it's like know your needs first then ask for it

I can help guide but I can't give you a direct answer

That's how TuanGPT works

[autumn temple]

Idk how to answer that

[fluid ravine]

haha yeah it's a bit complicated sorry

[autumn temple]

I just want the board to sound deeper and richer @fluid ravine

[cloud crane]

Richer = fuller sound?

[autumn temple]

Yes

[fluid ravine]

Understand how foam works, experiment with your configurations like with or without certain foams, sheets, and mods.
And if it were to you buying a new case, look for Wooting v2 compatible cases that has a decent or good isolation mounting systems that are well built and everything

It's all about experimenting and understanding

[autumn temple]

I dont think I have the patience anymore for self-experimenting if i gotta be honest lol

[fluid ravine]

have you read my thing about how foam works? or like watch one of keyboreds videos about it?

[autumn temple]

I havent send over

[fluid ravine]

#🔧│keyboard_modding message here's this

#🔧│keyboard_modding message

here's this too

Properties of plate and what mounting systems do with sound

[autumn temple]

Thanks

[cloud crane]

Absorbing TuanGPT keborb knowledge

[fluid ravine]

[autumn temple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFGTlwgihYs

@fluid ravine Even this sounds pretty damn good in an 80

[fluid ravine]

very foam and ceramic influence

[autumn temple]

Yeah cerakeys

[thorn zealot]

um wheres the switch

[fluid ravine]

lost in the sauce full of foam and ceramic

[wispy wharf]

That's clockfoam

Like I can hear the clack drowning

[fluid ravine]

ok...

[autumn temple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85PmY56VW_s&t=170s at 2:00 I like how the owlabs sound in here its a 60 HE with FR4 plate, gasket mount dt60 case

@fluid ravine

[uneven cradle]

Excuse me sir do you happen to be a real person, because that is a very odd message to post in multiple channels upon arrival on a very new discord account

[autumn temple]

lol wtf

[thorn zealot]

seemin how they acc was made 3 weeks ago and they just joined today prob not

[stone elbow]

any point in getting a 60he v2 module when i'm already using v1?
I do have a spare case, switches and keycaps that my v1 could use lol

[uneven cradle]

I'm just wondering what the angle is for an account to post something like that

With no links or anything in bio

[thorn zealot]

unless u rly want split space no imo

the diffs ik between em are like sound/moddin stuff

which u can do to ur v1

[stone elbow]

ehh split spacebar is kinda weird tbh, and keycap compability also

[fluid ravine]

pls help delete :>

[uneven cradle]

he's bonked

[fluid ravine]

[candid bramble]

Kinda want to try everglide skyline and master

[regal patio]

Those are kinda old

The skyline's V3 are very similar to duhuk Herz/owlab TI's

[cloud crane]

Only everglide switch worth trying is unionwell yaoguang (basically cheaper ice shine)

[gleaming plume]

Im so excited

My old keyb

[calm pulsar]

"high quality double shot pbt keycaps"

[glacial wind]

That quite the wasd usage

[gleaming plume]

Nearly 5 years

Was my bday gift from a friend

[tropic urchin]

UV print be like

[calm pulsar]

might even be something else cause I think UV printing the entire keycaps is kinda hard

[tropic urchin]

God help us then

[harsh dove]

UV Coat with Laser Etched legends

[gleaming plume]

Should i hard mount or friction

[fluid ravine]

friction

[gleaming plume]

Is it worth replacing the stock stabs

[fluid ravine]

what board?

[gleaming plume]

60he v2 module

[fluid ravine]

normally you can get away just fine if you give them a proper tuning

You can lube any stabs to sound and feel the same if you properly do it with lube without extra mods
But newer gen stabs have molds that makes it easier to tune so it requires less lube

so for you it is optional if you want to grab a new set of stabs to have an easier time tuning or just go all out and try your best to properly tune your stock stabs

[spring hawk]

yall think these are good for the 80he? i looked up a few moding videos and found these witch sound pretty good

[cloud crane]

No

[fluid ravine]

[spring hawk]

whats wrong with them?

[fluid ravine]

everything

[spring hawk]

would they just not work on the 80he or are they just bad quality?

[fluid ravine]

everything about it is bad

just no, dont even bother

[gleaming plume]

Which stabs would u recommend

[cloud crane]

Knight V4, Typeplus YiKB

[fluid ravine]

is fourwrap on the list at this time?

[cloud crane]

Fourwrap v2 maybe but it might be more complex for beginners

It sounds great tho

[fluid ravine]

[cloud crane]

https://youtu.be/eZmWFyDdM7Q
Fourwrap on juna60

A bit hard to hear properly coz bowl types so damn fast

[cloud crane]

https://youtu.be/nIdR1G_HdUs
Oookay better soundtest and guide here

[lime yew]

[fluid ravine]

[calm pulsar]

[fluid ravine]

wait i just notice did i miss a whole lore about "Ser"

[sacred elm]

It's just their recording. Those are ancient switches and sound horrible compared to newer stuff. I suggest checking Wooting's switch database for recommended switches and their sound tests #🪛│modding_faq message

[calm pulsar]

just me and Varedis larping

[fallen pecan]

ATK Velota upcoming switch, not a gateron this time: Silver Regent

[cloud crane]

I still can't get over this crazy translation

Wadafak you mean "one master and many slaves"

[fluid ravine]

MFAO

[sacred elm]

What are those specs

Source: Trust me bro

[cloud crane]

Crazy marketing bro

[calm pulsar]

one pcb and many keys

[sacred elm]

atk slop

[cloud crane]

Atk go back to mice buh

[sacred elm]

nah, I think we're good there too

[charred valve]

When is Wooting making tmr and what are your impressions on tmr?

[calm pulsar]

39g mouse is actually 45g, so the keyboard is actually gonna be missing keys

[fluid ravine]

Someone get Sno

[sacred elm]

https://www.youtube.com/live/hyXO3UzfBNY?si=X_i3SeAo9Qf3W35F

[fluid ravine]

or that

[charred valve]

Thanks

[fluid ravine]

when the hell

[sacred elm]

There's also an article you can read https://wooting.io/post/hall-effect-vs-tmr-pause-the-funeral

[fluid ravine]

pause the funeral

im dead

no pun intended

[calm pulsar]

TuanGPT, provide tldr on the article

[sacred elm]

[fluid ravine]

[charred valve]

Thanks so tmr is basically just more power efficient version of he with a bit less stable response

[charred valve]

Are you Optimum the YouTuber?

[sacred elm]

what

[fluid ravine]

bro think hes optimum

im dead

resume the funeral

[sacred elm]

[fluid ravine]

should i LMAO

[calm pulsar]

nah I read it

[charred valve]

Who is he

People told me he was optimum

[fluid ravine]

who's this people

[charred valve]

Prob 😭

[calm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/who-is-he-who-is-this-who-is-that-who-is-this-guy-who-is-he-peppa-pig-gif-11375013126139160285

[regal patio]

One pcb and many bugs

[cloud crane]

[regal patio]

4696kHz and 600kHz

Damn

Very nice specs

[cloud crane]

I dunno what they cooking lmfao

[regal patio]

One master many slaves

That do precise calculations

[chilly mural]

smh not even split space

[cloud crane]

Yeah needs 15u spacebar to be remotely usable

[uneven cradle]

Creamy switches

[regal patio]

This ranking is somehow worse then milktooh

[glacial wind]

They basically saw the lists I made and gave the marketing intern a job to do that just for products they sell I assume

[cloud crane]

Milktooth has better ranking coz he has the poopiest switch of all time

Poopy auditory experience

[fallen pecan]

Looking at their shop they have mostly old switches

[little glen]

3 gateron switches 😭

Couldnt make it worse if i tried

[cloud crane]

Gaterslop strikes again

[regal patio]

Milktooh made another best he switches video

[sacred elm]

Nothing beats milktooth HE switch filters

[cloud crane]

Imagine how gateron black lotus will do next month

[cloud crane]

Crunch 😛

[regal patio]

Featuring the geon raws, neo lavender, haimu doves and the sticky rices and puddings

[fallen pecan]

Speaking of gateron

[little glen]

Shafie i have a business idea

[cloud crane]

Yeah saw that

[little glen]

HE switch shop and the only category we have is crunchy

[glacial wind]

i still prefer my idea of turning wooting into an AI ram company, then immediately doing an IPO

[cloud crane]

CXMT IPO something

[little glen]

Maybe each switch has a crunch % and in the filters on the site you have a slider that you can adjust to find your perfect crunch

[cloud crane]

[glacial wind]

every wooting employee gets 1% stock, then we ipo and sell all the stock asap. Then we remake wooting as 'Wooting OG' but this time everyone in company will be 10 billion dollars richer

[sacred elm]

Lekker v1 crunch is where it's at

[little glen]

First, all employeed need to get some amount of shares tho

[glacial wind]

don't worry i thought that idea through already

if every wooting employee gets at least 1% stock, when we hit our trillion dollar valuation we are all worth 10 billion

[chilly mural]

I really hope it's not just a step up from tikken

especially when tikken is really really cheap

[glacial wind]

i assume it'll be 4mm jade ultra type switch

[sacred elm]

I think it's normal stem

not round

[chilly mural]

I hope it sound much better and more stable without costing more than $1

[cloud crane]

A man can dream

[glacial wind]

we can do the facebook founder strategy

when we all have billions of dollars, we move to singapore and retire, buy an entire block of apartments

and everyone just lives in the same building

[sacred elm]

[little glen]

Petition to put a bidet on every toilet

[glacial wind]

of course. If the toilet doesn't have a remote control flush function then i don't even want to sit on it

[sacred elm]

[glacial wind]

we can never go back after we experienced that luxury at last wooting meetup

[little glen]

It needs an auto unclog function

[harsh dove]

My life will not be complete without this

[wispy wharf]

Split stem diamond without the donut magnet

[gleaming plume]

How did u guys remove the pcb after friction mounting

[little glen]

You can just pull out the module

[glacial wind]

Pull off the keycap to the right of spacebar, you’ll see a hole, use the orange puller you have in box to hook into hole and pull

[near garden]

any idea what buzzwords to use when looking for keycaps to get similar texture to current wooting 60he v2?

[little glen]

(Good) keycaps dont usually list the surface texture because that is not usually a concern and they usually have a slightly textured surface

I also dont have the wooting stock keycaps so i cannot compare them to others i own

[near garden]

aah okay

[fallen pecan]

fbb retro snow blue

[cloud crane]

Wow fbb alert row set

[tidal ridge]

Stock 60HE+ with UFO Switches which stabilizers or plates will they not detach on

[glacial wind]

FBB really do be the best value sets honestly

[cloud crane]

SWG good value too 🤤

[glacial wind]

swg good too, but for higher price bracket

[cloud crane]

Tru tru

[glacial wind]

you'd have to ask gravastar that, i'm not aware of how this issue interacts with plates specifically

are they just saying it may be loose on some plates?

[uneven cradle]

SWG be getting close to GMK tier now in terms of sound and quality

[glacial wind]

or overly tight? I don't think i've seen this issue before myself

[uneven cradle]

Seems to be a cut above kkb now

[glossy pagoda]

I should buy new keycaps

Holy shit what a sale!

[uneven cradle]

Basically losing money not buying that

My kkb nichrin set will be arriving next week

[glossy pagoda]

https://swagkeys.com/products/group-buy-swg-skeletoon
I was peering at these myself

[tidal ridge]

the switches p much just dont click in right for example if you take a keycap off, the switch comes off with it (only with stabilizer keys)

ill have a look and see if they list whats compatible anywhere

[uneven cradle]

Was also eyeing that one up

There's also king of the seas if you're into a certain gen 3 legendary pokemon

[glossy pagoda]

I've never been a fan of pokemon, never understood the hype

Heretical to say, but it's my truth

[snow escarp]

very very mini question, whats the material of the stock wooting 60 he plate (the v1 or the one before all the other versions)

[uneven cradle]

Steel

[snow escarp]

thx

[spring hawk]

DO THEY HAVE GROUDON AND RAYQUAZA

[uneven cradle]

It's just Kyogre rn

[spring hawk]

FUCK

[cloud crane]

These are so fire, but I already got swg euler so don't need another keycap set this fast lol

[uneven cradle]

Can never have enough keycap sets just ask thockfather

[cloud crane]

Maybe I ball out on GMK Pandemonium who knows

[cloud crane]

~~There is rayquaza keyboard tho ~~

[glossy pagoda]

Thockfather doesn't question whether he needs new keycaps, he questions whether he needs more shelving for his keycaps

[cloud crane]

This gonna be expensive

[wispy wharf]

rayquaza is tempting

[austere creek]

if only it was a fullsize custom

[cloud crane]

Word

[wispy wharf]

things that should be standardized but aren't:

1. keyboard layouts
2. power supply cables

[cloud crane]

1. H60, H87

[snow escarp]

just took out the plate/pcb foam i honestly fuck with it alot more

[wispy wharf]

why didn't they make the 80he an h87 layout

[chilly mural]

mmm, split space

[cloud crane]

Look back on messages about this debate in this server lol

[wispy wharf]

sounds like a rabbit hole

[cloud crane]

Yeap

[wispy wharf]

just want the tldr

[cloud crane]

I could start a debate about it but big sno will smite me down

[wispy wharf]

it's not as universal? like they don't make as many cases and stuff for it?

curious about the "other factors" that outweigh standardization

it's literally 3 keys off h87

[chilly mural]

part of it is prop about the knob

[wispy wharf]

oy vey

[calm pulsar]

there's f13 version and non f13 version of tkl layout, but I dunno if it's that big of a factor, they went for f13 with 80he kinda

[wispy wharf]

kinda?

[chilly mural]

I mean, yeah? There's like 1 extra key besides the f12

[cloud crane]

F13 (H88) is standardized too

[calm pulsar]

the frow area is from f13 tkl layout, thats what I mean, but that's the only variable thing in a TKL layout that I know of, so not sure what other factors would be

[wispy wharf]

ok so like

they just wanted it a little shorter?

but not a 75?

[cloud crane]

Possibly

[wispy wharf]

world's most specific layout type shit

i guess it doesn't have any rarely used keys like scroll lock (on mine)

probably replace insert with a knob