nms-spoilers

[quartz thistle]

Critical Damage Taken, Male Voice

[solar falcon]

Upgrade settlement appearances by leveling them up!!!!!

Yesss

[quartz thistle]

I'm gonna come back in an hour and check what the s class tower does , it says space anomalies but that could be anything rly

[robust ruin]

Guys my phone crashed while reading patch notes

[solar falcon]

Purchase new multi tools in factories inside settlements!!

Damn that's good

[robust ruin]

Hello games saw me posting the patch notes early

[tidal mason]

Kay will do [i can spend asw] cause I dig the parts

anyways time to get my settlement up to max again

third time's a charm

[solar falcon]

Autophage base parts look amazing when their textures are fully rendered

Settlements can now influence the entire star system's economy!!!

Holy wow

They cooked with that one

[tidal mason]

at least my settlement base isn't ruined

that's all i care about

[solar falcon]

You can prepare a menu at the saloon and set the music on the bytebeat there

More interactive settlements. Banger update to something that was sorely in need of some fleshing out

[late edge]

This game becomes more and more ANIMAL crossing every update.

[uncut harness]

Fishing for junk just got easier

[solar falcon]

Very nice lil feature there

And then you can upgrade it, so fishing for S and A class fish is also easier

[uncut harness]

I wonder what fully upgraded fishing pools look like

[solar falcon]

Hopefully Japanese garden pond

I know it won't, but it'd be cool

[uncut harness]

A park themed by the race could be cool

[solar falcon]

Perfect idea

[uncut harness]

Anyone know what the pioneer feature is?

[tepid iris]

A flourishing settlement benefits an entire solar system, with the local economy receiving a boost from its wealth.

damn

[uncut harness]

A boost in economy could mean you can make it easier to find S class ships

[gray compass]

does this mean we eventually can turn t1 eco to t3

🤔

[tepid iris]

also yay no expedition mention

[solar falcon]

Yes

4 S class settlements in one sys would definitely do it

[uncut harness]

Hell yeah

[solar falcon]

But possibly even 1 could

[gloomy isle]

Honestly lots of good changes here, makes settlements into something actually useful it seems

[gray compass]

ye

[solar falcon]

Very

[gray compass]

and not just a timesink

[gloomy isle]

Very nice that they can actually impact the system economy too. Looks like they've been playing the new elite dangerous update lol

[uncut harness]

I like that my squad will show up in more places, makes me hopeful they keep doing that with other ideas

[solar falcon]

It's kinda fire

[gloomy isle]

There's still a few things I'm not sold on, but the guild envoy thing is fantastic

[uncut harness]

What does talking to the guild do?

[solar falcon]

Like what?

[tired mantle]

I have a five hour plane ride today I know what I'm doing then - running a village!

[solar falcon]

Hopefully increase standing

[uncut harness]

That sounds great

[dense quartz]

I thought everything in this game was static apart from player bases.
...I think this is the very first instance of the actual universe being affected by our actions like this.

[solar falcon]

That part got me most excited

[gloomy isle]

If you're high rep with them you get gifted really good stuff.

S class upgrades, warp hyoercores etc

[uncut harness]

I was thinking the same thing, it makes me hopeful for even more influence over the universe

[gloomy isle]

All either free or discounted

[dense quartz]

Yeah I know people have been asking for planetary teraforming and I kept saying it's just not possible because everything resets.
But now this update happened lol.

[solar falcon]

One step closer to "settlement-to-city" pipeline in NMS

[uncut harness]

Yeah, who knows what they could do. I want just territory control, maybe fighting off the swarm or sentinels from entering my system

[tepid iris]

Overseeing multiple settlements will distribute the Sentinel alert level between them, effectively meaning the number of attacks requiring player attention does not increase with the number of settlements managed.
Thank god

[late edge]

I still love the mobile game feel of the settlements. Something to just sink your time into. I like busy work sometimes

[uncut harness]

That's how I feel about my freighter fleet too, I'm glad they're doing it the way they have

[dreamy quartz]

As someone who spends too long only exploring 3e 1c systems, this pleases me. It makes me feel like i can now search for my new home in lower economy systems knowing I can boost the economy once I settle in

[solar falcon]

Galactic Hub is now guaranteed to be highest class systems too

[dreamy quartz]

Trying to find a very specific looking planet isn't that hard by itself; it's trying to find it in 3e 1c that makes it a nightmare lol

[river surge]

So is this the summer update or is there still another to come?

[gray compass]

all i need is a squadron now :D

[solar falcon]

Not summer update

Summer is always big, and a lil later in the summer

Guaranteed expedition too

[gloomy isle]

Still one more, most likely

[river surge]

So when we likely to see summer update like August ?

[solar falcon]

Probably

[river surge]

Sweet let's go

[tepid iris]

Implemented occlusion culling on PC and Nintendo Switch 2, significantly increasing framerate in indoor environments (such as in caves and planetary buildings).

that term is new for me

[gloomy isle]

Probably an expedition next, summer update around July or August, another expedition then reruns is what I'd guess

[river surge]

Atleast the game is free on switch 2

[solar falcon]

It's like upscaled occlusion

[dreamy quartz]

It means stuff outside the building that you can't see gets un rendered

[gloomy isle]

Which would mean the summer update is most likely going to be corvettes, I'd wager

[river surge]

For people that already own it on v1

[tepid iris]

nice

[solar falcon]

For not as powerful systems like the switch

[river surge]

@gloomy isle I think it mite be even bigger than this new one

[soft sonnet]

I just tried the masculine voice and got jumpscared by optimus prime saying TECHNOLOGY INSTALLED

[solar falcon]

Switch 2 has ambient occlusion tho?

[frigid valley]

So cool

[solar falcon]

That's a given

[tired mantle]

I need to try this but I'll probably keep the other voice it's just so loved

[spring hawk]

I can't do that to good 'ol Telamon... He's a friend!

[gray compass]

are autophage settlements just random or is there something you need to do

now that the update dropped

[soft sonnet]

honestly surprised me that the original voice is called feminine, it always sounded like a guy to me but ig I never really thought too hard about it

[tired mantle]

You need to own a settlement and have unlocked the autophage to find them I think

[gloomy isle]

From the files, it's looking like it might be a new XL type ship

But no confirmation ofc

[dreamy quartz]

Basically just because something, like a creature or a building or an npc, etc, is not visible on your screen, doesn't mean they're not still being rendered internally and taking up system resources if you're physically near them. Occlusion culling makes it so they are actually not rendered when you can't see them, which frees memory

[river surge]

Wow really whats Xl ship ?

[solar falcon]

NMS has two modes of updates. Focused and Big. Focused is all about one thing, and typically doesn't have much qol additions that don't tie into the thing they're updating. Big ones touch on many different things with the qol and always has an expedition

[frigid valley]

You need to have autophages unlocked and at their encampments you can buy a settlement chart

[gray compass]

ah

i already have max rep with them so i just find a camp :D

[river surge]

Yeah ive got those charts saved

[mortal granite]

Omg i need Nintendo switch 2 right now

[solar falcon]

Def not

Unless you have the switch 1

[mortal granite]

I have

[solar falcon]

Ah

Get a ps5

No mans sky will look and play even better

Or PC

[mortal granite]

Not exactly handheld tho

[solar falcon]

True

[mortal granite]

I have it on pc but on ultrawide the mouse is doing weird things like reseting to middle of screen

[quasi oyster]

The question is - is the S2 version have cross-platform multiplayer

[solar falcon]

Probably not

But it does have multiplayer

[dreamy quartz]

It says full multiplayer

I'd be surprised if it didn't have cross play

[solar falcon]

Full multiplayer, because NMS has had half multiplayer before

And on switch 1

[quasi oyster]

• Added the name of the current galaxy to the portal runes displayed in Photo Mode.

Small change, but HUGE for base-sharing! 😄

[solar falcon]

Technically multiplayer

They would have most likely stressed crossplay if it was in

[gloomy isle]

Apparently they're called corvettes and they're kinda a mix of freighter and ship

Basically they're flyable, but apparently have a hangar and you can build/ walk inside them

[river surge]

Cool

[wild dune]

Spoilers: Rick Astley now featured in NMS

[mental socket]

Nice easter egg

[haughty wagon]

Are there ships like that in the game already?

[gloomy isle]

No

There's freighters but they're immobile

And you can't walk around the inside on regular ships

[dreamy quartz]

Sean says it does

Says cross play at the bottom

@solar falcon

[haughty wagon]

Yea I know I got an S-class one but since you said the name of the xl ships and stuff already I thought I missed those

[native carbon]

Did they fix the animal glitching?

[dreamy quartz]

Probably not lol

[native carbon]

Does their body bend again?

[dreamy quartz]

That seems low priority

[solar falcon]

Awesome!

[gloomy isle]

Aah there's frigates, they're similarly named I guess.

Irl, corvettes are a size down from frigates iirc

[haughty wagon]

Ohh alright, but yea I got some frigates too already, and those corvettes sound amazing

[gray compass]

am i tripping or is the jetpack new from the update trailer

that just released

[grizzled apex]

its been in the game since the first expedition iirc

[mental socket]

Yeah

And a few twitch drops after that

[uncut harness]

i don't have it 🥲

Pioneer expedition is rare

[gray compass]

just use a service bot/save edit it

[uncut harness]

They really just need to let people do those all year

[haughty wagon]

Speaking abt those, I was literally just abt to ask, can you somehow still get those rewards or will they return? Or are they forever locked now

[mental socket]

Maybe in a future twitch drop

[uncut harness]

It's a holiday season thing, where they select a few for everyone to do. If you don't get the one you want, you wait a year

[grizzled apex]

and the ones rerun are generally only the ones from that year, but they have rerun older expeditions, such as beachhead a few times

[gray compass]

i wonder if we ever get pioneers rerun

[native carbon]

@grizzled apex good news the switch 2 edition is free

😄

Ngl im excited cuz i preordered switch 2

[haughty wagon]

You mean like for the ppl who already got it on the switch 1?

Like if you already bought it before

[haughty wagon]

I noticed some rewards were also in the quicksilver store

[dense quartz]

Damn this is a really interesting interior.

[native carbon]

Yes

[haughty wagon]

Can you play the update on the switch one too

With crossplay and stuff

[native carbon]

Yes

[haughty wagon]

Niceeee

[native carbon]

Yes but no Multiplayer and settlements

[haughty wagon]

Huh Wdym

[haughty wagon]

Not that?

[native carbon]

Switch 1 does not support settlements and MP

[cursive bay]

Missed a couple points, but we'll get there someday

[frigid valley]

Did you experienced that with all creatures? or just ones you were riding?

From patch notes

Fixed an issue that could allow ridden creatures to intersect terrain.

a screenshot instead of a crayon drawing would be more clear what you mean

[native carbon]

I was not at home sorry

And no, every creature was bugging

Not the only ones i was riding

[quartz thistle]

Update on the condensation tower, when you raise it up to s class you can take off and look for anomalies in your ship without needing a detector

That's the tower with stairs yk

[shrewd burrow]

for the beacons trailer there was a clip of the ship that was dropped for the original switch 1 release- do you think they’ll re-release this?

[ebon spoke]

hmm, that was the preorder ship and there's no chance to preorder the Switch 2 version so probably not. I think it was there just to show that Switch players who have that ship from back in the day are able to carry their saves over to the Switch 2 and keep using it

[native carbon]

how do i unlock autophage settlement?

[dense quartz]

Once you beat their "They Who Returned" mission, they'll contact you through a settlement you own.

I remember Worlds Part 2 patch notes talking about how moons orbiting around a giant have their gravity affected.
But I guess it's just a camera tilt.

[uncut harness]

This update was a W for me but I understand people being upset about the settlements

I still don't want multiplayer either lol

[dense quartz]

Why would people be upset about settlements?

[uncut harness]

Not being on switch 1

I checked on my ps5 copy and they still badly built and a collection of squares too lol

[cold surge]

lol, nice vizualisation (probably not tho)

[dreamy quartz]

I hate this so much that when I first encountered it I thought it was a bug

Still hoping they "fix" it

It ruined gas giant moons for me

I wanted to build my home on one but that ruined it

[native carbon]

Its not

Theres a lot of visual glitches rn

[dense quartz]

Imo it's tilted the other way around.

[dreamy quartz]

If it was my choice, it wouldn't be tilted at all

I don't want any tilt

[dense quartz]

I think it could work, but only if done in the exact opposite why of what they did.
Instead of the player being tilted away from the giant, everything on the moon should be tilted toward the giant.
So you wouldn't feel tilted at all, it'd be more like the terrain was on a slight incline but not the buildings.

[fervent fern]

Now that the dust is settling... and I'm sorry for being out of the loop:

Did this update introduce anything new in the game files?

Or in the game code for that matter

[dreamy quartz]

Corvettes I think. Some sort of ship between a freighter and your ship but not a frigate

But i got that info second hand so take it with a grain of salt

[fervent fern]

That was already there, wasn't it? Unless they expanded on it

[dreamy quartz]

No it's something new. Like a ship you can fly around but also build on

[fervent fern]

Oh, I mean... it was already described in the files before Beacons

[runic mesa]

That was actually datamined a few updates ago

[dreamy quartz]

Like the cyclops from Subnautica but as a spaceship

Oh

[fervent fern]

Hopefully that becomes something tangible in the future

[runic mesa]

Sean and HG must have campaigned to get a Switch 2 dev kit. Weren't those limited?

[tired mantle]

GUYS

[runic mesa]

I knew they were going to do a Switch 2 upgrade, but day 1 release is amazing

[native carbon]

This is some good news for me (i preordered de console)

[runic mesa]

The fact they worked on it for a year tho. I think the Switch port is more popular than some think...

[heady wyvern]

How scandalous - I'd never do that to my poor, dear Telamon!

[runic mesa]

I might actually use the male voice tho. Given that it's Telamon, I kinda like how unsettling it is

[heady wyvern]

Might have to come back to the game and check things out.

It's been too long

[runic mesa]

FYI dig your pyro jack avatar

[heady wyvern]

I've been meaning to change it back to Jack Frost after the end of last October, but I've never found the motivation to find that image again.

[fervent fern]

Telamon will become 2001's Hal 9000 on a male voice.
...may be interesting.

[tired mantle]

The autophage base parts go hard

[native carbon]

My talemon now sounds like optimus prime now and i love it

[heady wyvern]

I dunno, I think it's just that I've been here a long time, and having the exosuit voice be anything other than the feminine voice just seems... wrong, somehow.

[tired mantle]

I wasn't going to change it but I might have to now

[runic mesa]

Sold

[native carbon]

Also it somewhat sounds like cyclops from subnautica and thats bonus points

[runic mesa]

Player voice is weird to me though, I might leave that off

[native carbon]

I still didnt hear any player voice

[tired mantle]

Stop I want to keep the original voice but you're making me not do it

🤣

[native carbon]

U dont want optimus prime to say "units received"?

[tired mantle]

I love the cyclops voice

I want my cyclops to say inventory full

[native carbon]

Idk why but for me it somewhat sounds like cyclops mixed with optimus prime

Also not my video

[tired mantle]

It does!

It sounds more like the voice of a modded subnautica vehicle called the beluga

[native carbon]

But if ima be fair the voice may be too deep (i love it personally but some people will hate it)

[tired mantle]

It's good now that I've heard it but I think I'll stick with the original voice

[uncut harness]

Overall good update besides messing with the brightness again

We need a night's update to go back to being dark and needing lights lol

I can only assume they confusing brightness with better graphics

[near ferry]

gang, i went to first autophage settlement activated terminal ... is there a default timer ? nothing happens, can't upgrade ?

[next lagoon]

We can do food menus now?

[tired mantle]

Just wait until the residents need something

It'll come up in the log when it happens

[near ferry]

that's another thing, no population, i'm alone

[tired mantle]

What?

The population meter says 0?

[near ferry]

says 26/53 but no one in sight

ok sec, reloging just to see if it fixes it

[tired mantle]

Scan

[near ferry]

yeah did it, liek regular camps they appear, still nothing,

it worked, got at least one npc moving around

[dusky gazelle]

I didn't like my first location for the autophage settlement. I dismissed it. How do I find another one?

[tired mantle]

Buy a map from any autophage terminal

Sean on switch 2 release 🤣🤣🤣

[quartz thistle]

That's the cyclops saying inventory full

[quartz thistle]

Nintendo sending deaf kids is hilarious

[quasi oyster]

Hrmmmm, less hope that means what I hope it means! 😄

[compact coyote]

https://x.com/nmsresources/status/1930332977629933991?s=46&t=loZrYcFkO3xgtKV5rKCH8g

Craig Mark (@NMSResources)

BEACON 5.70
NEW SETTLEMENT BUILDINGS

X · Jun 4, 2025, 6:37 PM

[rose sapphire]

Sure Sean

We believe you

[glass flare]

So current settlements can have more buildings added to them?

[uncut harness]

Yeah and every metal part got reskinned

From floor to roof

[native carbon]

Yes!
We basically got the city update

[knotty basalt]

90% sure ik the answer. Can we now use settlement maps in dissonant worlds?

[analog breach]

Whats the max amount of buildings u can have? Im at 41

[mental socket]

And max amount of settlements you can own?

[gloomy isle]

Coolest thing personally is that you can apparently actually impact the overall system economy

[glass flare]

yeah I read that. which immediately made me wonder, is that just for you? or if someone else comes to that system, do they see that boost also

[mental socket]

Yeah. That was in the notes. I really have to wonder how it will impact the economy if for example players were to claim and max out all available settlements within a system

like in #nmscord-hub for example

[rotund perch]

i would imagine if you're online and the settlement loads in then you get the boost too

[glass flare]

That would be cool but I guess would require them to record those economic changes in the star system discovery data on their servers

[dire cedar]

so I heard they fed deaf kids to the void mother? tsk tsk HG

so are settlements now worthwhile to get involved with, I was told they were kinda meh before this update

[knotty basalt]

For anyone else who wondered. Autophage settlements have their own maps you can buy at the camps (the one you need the multi-tool modules to locate)

[wind panther]

They were crap before this. Now they seem at least decent, maybe even pretty good

[gloomy isle]

I'm genuinely surprised at how much they've actually deepened the system

Especially since it can boost system economy

[wind panther]

I used to joke that Switch 1 not having settlements was a selling point. That's how bad they were

[gloomy isle]

Yeah they were super bad

Now it's almost as if they fill the same role as a personal station would

[lyric coral]

How do I make decisions in the new settlements? Where is the command center?

[gloomy isle]

In some ways

[wind panther]

Overseer's Office

[lyric coral]

I can’t find it in the autophage settlements

[wind panther]

In Autophage I think it's a central crystal thingie

right in the middle

[lyric coral]

The heart doesn’t show decisions

[glass flare]

in retrospect it makes sense that they would want to revamp settlements in conjunction with the Switch 2 update

[ebon spoke]

Yeah, I imagine they've had plans for the settlement update for a while but didn't want to do it if the Switch players wouldn't get anything

This way, at least the Switch players who are buying the new console get something out of the update in the free upgrade

[uncut harness]

I've played on my ps5 for the day, 8 hours ish I still think settlements are mid and the new base building parts are the meat
But I know people gunna be happy with sakavaging ships at your settlement and guilds coming to you and fishing

I'd reckon this is a sign of death for switch 1 though missing out on a update, (I don't consider it missing out on two much but others willz)

[dense quartz]

It's a bug.
You're supposed to build one as soon as you become the owner but the game sometimes doesn't trigger the mission.

[regal skiff]

That's all the kids that tried to pay him money for all the free updates

[indigo smelt]

The devs sure like their timers. Getting invited to a C-class autophage settlement where you have to upgrade most buildings to get productivity above maintenance sucks(each one an hour timer too).

[arctic bough]

I actually quite like the use of real world timers in missions, frigate expeditions etc

[indigo smelt]

Because its the difference between side and main content.

[arctic bough]

Settlements are side content

[mental socket]

Tbh now that we can own multiple settlements, we can set several different upgrades to build at the same time

Wonder if there's any practical upgrades that allow two or more buildings to be upgraded simultaneously

[indigo smelt]

Are all the new settlements on plateaus? It just looks like they missed the opportunity to have waterfront settlements. Water is always good real estate.

[earnest crater]

I can't uprade my settlement Overseer's Office to S class. I have the 200 Indium is says is required but it says Insufficient Resources. Known bug? nm, looks like the current experimental branch has a fix for this

[glass flare]

Yeah, real-world timers are awful. It's a tacit admission that the gameplay loop for the settlements is very shallow, because if there were no timers then endgame players would be "done" with settlement upgrades super quickly

[ebon spoke]

Its rough when the update focuses on settlements as well. The intent is that your settlement is meant to be something on the side that you come back to every few hours between going on other adventures, but of course everybody wants to get them upgraded to see the new stuff because that's the entirety of the update

[sweet iron]

When you create a new star system during the stellar multitudes questline, are you literally generating a brand new system that didn’t exist in the game before or just revealing a previously hidden one that matches the attributes you selected? Just curious

[uncut harness]

You're revealing one that fits your description

[indigo smelt]

Do settlement charts include autophage settlements? Otherwise, I have looked at scanners and they do not include settlements.

[plain sluice]

You must buy specialized charts for locating Autophage Settlements, which can be bought from Autophage Terminals

[indigo smelt]

Ah. I found the autophage charts. They are very expensive. I tried a few, but it seems there is only 1 autophage settlement per planet, possibly only 1 per system but I do not know this for sure.

[dense quartz]

Pretty much. I mean I play on creative so the timers are just 10 seconds for me. But I mean, even after upgrading stuff, there's still buildings that are finally useful now.

[analog breach]

U need to buy autophage settlement chart from autophage camps for void motes.

[indigo smelt]

Reread my message after that one.

I seriously wish we could scrap buildings. There are small "sleeping pods" and "habitation units" only containing a few settlers that take so much upkeep in my 2nd settlement that any reasonable overseer would scrap them(especially when the settlement has too much debt).

[arctic bough]

yep.

[jolly vault]

Are weathered to pristine options still bugged in the patch?

[glass flare]

my settlement kept getting walled off by construction when I would upgrade it, as if there were two buildings in the same space. hopefully that's fixed

[uncut harness]

Yes and no, yes it works no you can't unrrust it

[jolly vault]

Is this for base parts or settlements as well?

[indigo smelt]

Getting a citizen's request where both sides increase maintenance after you just upgraded a building to deal with maintenance sucks. Back to upgrading I guess.

Maintenance is just too high on some buildings. I shouldn't have to upgrade the production buildings to A-class in order to deal with the many small buildings with high maintenance. I am not saying you should be getting millions right out of the gate, but it should be easier to get out of debt.

One of the problems with settlements is an increasing debt timer initially on the low class settlements. Increasing debt is a punishment for not engaging in order to build buildings. There is no free exploration of the universe when you have to do babysitting.

[marsh grail]

so, just to be clear, the Autophages use greek letters because Atlas never downloaded the ascii codepage 869 for the greek alphabet and so can't understand them right?

[swift hazel]

i will

o

[cursive flame]

AIGHT

[heady wyvern]

That's actually a great idea

[serene gazelle]

i just met the autophage that gave me the quest in stellar multitudes

i love that concept of the autophage basically turning itself into a "ship"

[swift hazel]

yo

@cursive flame

"New Beginnings"

(with a radiant pillar)

[grim lintel]

Anything dug up in the new update datamine-wise, or would that fall under the new update spoilers moratorium that's in place atm?

[frigid valley]

Datamined content is allowed in this channel, what we don't allow is posting it in other channels

[grim lintel]

ah, gotcha

[ebon spoke]

There isn't anything to dig up this time around, all the new files are just for the settlements/base building parts.

[serene gazelle]

did i actually just spawn in a bunch of stars?

i did the "in stellar multitudes" quest

[sour fossil]

no, those systems were there, just hidden / unavailable to players

Now they are available to you

[sour fossil]

Nothing much really

Couple new decals for QS shop

[serene gazelle]

oh
still pretty cool

[river surge]

What do yous all think mite get added in summer update?

[serene gazelle]

how do i know which ones were hidden before?

if the name of the space station is all distorted?

[river surge]

Me waiting on summer update

[sour fossil]

all purple systems were hidden before

[serene gazelle]

ohh

alr

are you sure? i could've sworn i went to a purple system before

maybe not this shade of purple

actually nvm you're probably in the right here

[uncut harness]

Some systems that were made purple were phantom stars before

I got robbed of one of mine

[lofty fable]

wdym summer update

[river surge]

Well there's a summer one still to come

Apparently

[humble kayak]

are you referring to the one thatll probably come in august

[uncut harness]

August update yah

[timber fossil]

wait is the void mother and atlantid connected

void mother is like the squid stuff from exped. 16 right?

[jolly vault]

Since the game doesn't tell me anywhere what exactly the creator and anomalies are, I'm guessing it's up to our imagination. So as far as I'm concerned, my Traveller whose name is Mijol Kotun, is human.

[plain sluice]

IMO it's quite implied that the player character (and the "anomaly" race) is human, in a world where that is abnormal and unnamed. I like how they keep it very very unclear and up to interpretation

[arctic bough]

the creator is a human, sean murray..

[analog breach]

Creator was human but anomalies are not human. Its a recreation of creator inside the simulation made from vauge memory.

[jolly vault]

They don't say what they actually are though so, my Traveller is human and thats that.

[ebon spoke]

If the creators were humans then the first travellers would be about as close to human as you can get. From what I understand, the corruption of the Atlas' memory of its creator is something that has happened over time, each iteration is more corrupted than the last which is why the travellers look so different from each other

[jolly vault]

I just like the idea of my Traveller being a human. He refers to himself as a Traveller in-game.

[uncut harness]

Your traveller is a first spawn with its memory wiped

[jolly vault]

No. But I have a last gek spawn character. The other character is a Vy'keen love interest of Mijol, and then there's of course, Mijol, the Traveller of the Atlas in his universe.

[uncut harness]

Unfortunately yes

[jolly vault]

Does he look like a gek? He just wears some gek clothing cause I like the look of the fabric. Funny ship bug.

[meager epoch]

Damn! You can get quicksilver from your settlement decsions

[river surge]

Really

[jolly vault]

I'll check this out after the patches release.

[wet rivet]

Btw, whats the quests you have to do for "he who returns"

[analog breach]

!faq-echoes

[cloud jolt]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

❔ **Stuck starting the Echoes content?**

Make sure the steps below are completed.

⚠️ Use #bot-spam for FAQ commands below & check #nms-questions for the latest details about the update.

1. Finish the Artemis Path (main story). Run !Faq-ArtemisPath in #bot-spam.
2. Lift the Seal from a Harmonic Camp. Run !Faq-Interceptor in #bot-spam.
3. Warp to any system -- if that triggers a freighter battle, you must warp again.

❗ This information has been verified as of <t:1694212090:D> (after Update 4.44) & is subject to change.

With update 4.44, completion of the mission, A Trace of Metal is no longer required. A Settlement used to be needed -- except on Switch, where you'd have to trigger it by warping 25 times.

📚 Contributors: Atlas Emissaries & friendlyfirepl

[safe quarry]

@grizzled apex are the mentions of the corvettes at least still in the files? and if not is that a sign that the feature might be dropped? or just removed from the public build?

[grizzled apex]

No changes or removals, the Corvette textures are still in the files. There's really nothing unused in this update honestly, just changes to settlement files and new building parts. I guess thats to be expected with more focused updates like Beacons and Relics.

We have 0 insight into HG's thinking process btw, there's usually never any indication about an unused feature being further developed, tested or dropped, at least not in a major sense.

[safe quarry]

Oh yes don't worry! I know you can only infer from what u see.

The fact I get a bug where the flora flickers when I take off, as well as them working on object culling for a lot of things now, makes me think they might still be working on things to optimise corvettes for people inside when its travelling. But that's really speculative thinking.

[grizzled apex]

huh... have we had community mission progress plateu for days before?

the nmscd site doesnt seem to have data past a point, but checking directly w/ the game servers still shows it stuck at 57%?

Hell, im not even getting CM progress in game rn

[icy citrus]

Servers have been weird since Bacon

Various reports, no bases, part bases loading, no matchmaking, etc etc

Infinite quicksilver missions

Lol

[grizzled apex]

Hmm yea I was surprised HG didnt push the expected CM end date back when Beacons dropped. That's probably whats causing the CM issues, and HG not tracking any progress or updating it might just be because of them being swarmed with the bug fixes?

[icy citrus]

At a guess

Seems logical to me

[analog breach]

I guess Hg being focused on lnf takes toll huh? More and more bugs that nms team has less hand power to deal with.

[icy citrus]

I don't know about that, seems to be fairly typical update

Less bugs than some

[analog breach]

For me it looks preety buggy for a update focused on 1 feature

But of now im busy with nightregin so i can wait for patches

[icy citrus]

I mean, Relics needed 4 patches

This is probably cleaned up in 2

First one addresses a majority of them

[ebon spoke]

I mean, we have no idea how much more/less focused they are on LNF compared to the last six years they've been working on it

[icy citrus]

They have more than doubled in size since NMS launch, I don't think working on LNF is taking anything away from NMS, or any other project they may also be working on

They did last campfire during these, and are publishing another game - they seem to be organizing fine

[analog breach]

I think most of experianced devs are working on lnf. While younger staff works on nms. But thats just my teory

[ebon spoke]

They also have Hello Labs on top of that, don't they? Their program for helping other studios with procedural generation systems.

[icy citrus]

Sean worked on the purple system terrain gen

[icy citrus]

Ya

I'm not worried about resources for NMS, or time - they say they love doing it still

Hopefully that persists for quite sometime, but end is inevitable ofc

[gloomy isle]

I do wonder why people keep trying to make guesses about stuff like this, makes no sense to me

All that's clear is that the game still has an active team putting out good content

[icy citrus]

It's sorta hazy memory too

[gloomy isle]

Yeah true. Since day one every update has broken stuff

Beyond was insane

Plus it's not like settlements were terribly polished to begin with lol

[ebon spoke]

I'm sure there's a ton of overlap between the two games in terms of devs. An artist for example, would have a lot to do making new assets for the Worlds updates but not much NMS stuff to do once those are out. I think the squids from Worlds Part II were absolutely made by the same person as the LNF octopus, they look extremely similar

[gloomy isle]

Especially since there's a big technical overlap with what they're adding recently. All the new terrain, rendering etc. Maybe even bartering

Not to mentions the physics grid stuff they'll be making for corvettes potentially

[uncut harness]

Has there been any more interesting data mined info since the update?

[ebon spoke]

It seems like they don't want to reuse any models between the two games. Even the grass and small plants in LNF look totally different from the assets we have in NMS. The octopus does appear in NMS as an item you can catch while fishing, but they notably didn't add it as actual fauna in WPII.

[ebon spoke]

Yeah, so much work done for either game would be reused on both. Even boring stuff like engine optimizations.

[ebon spoke]

Nope, nothing unused was added this time

[sudden nymph]

So. Is there any hope for the universe’s survival

Or is it all going to die in 16 minutes

No matter what anyone in the sim does

[uncut harness]

If anything I imagine some things can't be fixed by thinking through the problem longer

But who knows, there might be more lore eventually. But I doubt NMS is a game where you are a true hero, I haven't watched any lore dumps though

[late tusk]

Imagine when LNF releases the simulation "dies" only to reveal the LNF world

[gloomy isle]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was the opposite, and LNF is a new simulation in the next layer down

[fervent fern]

Perhaps a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I'd prefer if LNF had absolutely nothing to do with NMS. 😅
Perhaps a couple of easter-eggs at maximum.

[sweet iron]

I always imagine they’ll add story content where the simulation “dies” once they’re preparing to end online services/content updates for the game. Depressing but meta

[uncut harness]

I don't think they should

That would suck ToT(for us, not being able to play anymore)

[sweet iron]

Well yeah I don’t think they should make the game unplayable. I feel like the multiplayer features are unobtrusive enough that they could just kill the servers and have the game be offline singleplayer-only when the time comes

[uncut harness]

I would stop playing

It gets to lonely otherwise

[uncut harness]

tbf, NMS was originally a single player experience

Yeah, but it's still lonely af(without online)

true. i guess the multiplayer being an optional and distant thing is best

[river surge]

Anyone been on experimental branch?

09/06

[glass flare]

Which is pretty wild really. How many other studios of this size have a CEO who still does serious, hands-on coding of major game features? I can't think of any offhand, not in the modern era anyway

[grim lintel]

You have my attention

[gloomy isle]

Yeah it's super nice to see that he's still hands on with development

In both games too

[frail ermine]

A true fan of his own game. The majority of studios push games for money and don't care about it after it makes its money up front.

E33 is another game that shows the devs were passionate about their game.

[analog breach]

More like a mother loves his child. ( when considering how mych labor pain and hadeache sean had to take )

[bright compass]

This is by far the best game i have played when it comes adding new features and constant game development and content. i have been playing for last 3 -4 years . Most bang for buck still interesting with new features every now and then. Hats off to the management and developers to keeping the players interest alive even after almost a a decade of initial release.

[proper drum]

Mother loves HIS child.
Hmmmmmm.... Somethings not right ....

[analog breach]

Its 2025.

[frosty nebula]

does anybody have the audio files for the new character voices? i want to hear them, but there's no "test" option in settings and it's kind of annoying having to select and test each one (plus all the ambient sounds in the background make it hard to hear lol)

(i ask here because it's tangentially related to datamining but if there is a better channel for it please redirect me 🙇)

[icy citrus]

Fine to ask here, may want to check #nms-modding as well

[humble kayak]

this is my bet

i was sifting through any news i could find on LNF, and a few years ago before LNF was formally announces sean got interviewed

He mentioned the yet unnamed second game and said it wasn't a sequel

the two games might share iconography or similarities but idk if they'll share a universe

Which I don't mind, since I was never big on the NMS Simulation thing to begin with

[ebon spoke]

NMS' simulation themes aren't the best, but at least they serve as an interesting meta commentary on the game being a simulated universe. Those same themes in Light No Fire wouldn't really make sense because it is supposed to be based around classic fantasy novels rather than sci fi ones.

There might be some easter eggs here and there that reference the Atlas or something like that, but I don't expect any sort of big lore event that ties the two together

[mortal wing]

Tony stark dies in endgame😈😈

[jolly vault]

That's not a nms spoiler. Plus I saw the movie so ha!

[timber fossil]

dude no one even cares here

you accoplished nothing

[mortal wing]

Grrr you are so scary 😱 I’m devastated I messed with the alpha of said discord server

[timber fossil]

no it's because literally everyone saw that

so you're just informing people of what they already know

plus there is so much on social media for everybody to know

[timber fossil]

what were you even thinking would happen

[mortal wing]

A joke that I didn’t think would
Offend your kitten

[dapper elk]

I couldve saved myself some bps if i didnt sweat getting salvaged tech lol

Unlocked glass n stuff for free from quest lol

[raw atlas]

Hoo boy. Got to the anomaly hub and saw all of those constructions and prefabs, but I already sold all my salvaged data orz

[glad palm]

The dark freighter?

[glad palm]

I dont get it

[raw atlas]

Do we get to name the thing in the atlas ending

[heady wyvern]

Which thing?

If you're talking about the system you end up in at the end, that system was always there

It's a little slight of hand HG's doing to sell the narrative

That being said, you're always able to rename any discovery you find before you upload it to ODS servers, so... yeah, I guess?

[raw atlas]

Google says you get to birth a new star, which is probably not that big of a deal, yeah, but it’s neat.

[heady wyvern]

That's the aforementioned "slight of hand." The "star" is a system that has always existed.

[broken shore]

DM me

[analog breach]

I wonder if HG is cooking something biger for us bc we didint get expedition this time or it was just needed more hands on switch 2 platform release.

[lime birch]

Corvette update

[river surge]

When lol

[ebon spoke]

kinda get the vibe that this update just evolved from the Switch 2 port. They would have needed to work a little on the settlements to port them to the S2, regardless of if they were going to have new features or not.

[wind fable]

So are the current gek still in part affected by the korvax? Or was that just for the first spawn?

[arctic bough]

remind me pls, does this also happen with the star seed?

[humble kayak]

That'd be sick but even if that's the case we won't see it until august

[river abyss]

Don’t think so

[raw atlas]

I don’t like the whole damaged items thing with the atlas ending. So what’s the voice of freedom one like?

[icy citrus]

Everything gets damaged

[raw atlas]

Ok, then I know you get the shroud hood with the pirates but what about the atlas

[icy citrus]

It's a different title

I would just use a beater ship and multitool and package up the tech in your suit, then you can skip repairing anything

Pick up a crappy shuttle for a million or so and a pistol and switch to them prior

[river aspen]

"the freighter of the damned"? that exp reward from Adrift

[sweet iron]

How did you get this quest line? I’ve never seen it before

[arctic bough]

The other option at the end of the atlas path

You can accept or refuse, this is the refuse option

[sweet iron]

Damn i thought it was like the earlier mission where it didn’t matter which option you picked

[arctic bough]

It basically doesn't matter

The endless follow up quest has a different name and apparently different mechanics, but there's no further ramifications

One sentence of different dialogue in the stellar multitudes quest

[sweet iron]

ig i can pick it on my permadeath save whenever i bother to pick it up again

[arctic bough]

thats what i did

[lucid vapor]

Hello there! So i finished the quest " The purge" which is basiclly like new game plus right? Now i'm free from main quest? Also i started quest "New begining" Is that quest just for freedom play or ...?

[icy citrus]

New Beginnings means you are done with the Artemis questline

[river abyss]

Yes it is freedom (now you have new quest btw)

[raw atlas]

I love reading the traveler wiki page. The atlas actually sounds like a good guy looking after his children, while the pirates just seem nuts

[cloud jolt]

@low sedge
-# to view info below, enable embeds

<:info:850810445577453658> Which orb do I pick?

• This decision will damage everything that's still installed in Exosuit, active Ship and Multi-tool tech inventories (exception: exosuit core techs e.g. Life Support).

• Each of the 4 orbs represent 1 of 4 galaxy types in the game, and while this decision can't be repeated in the current save, it's easy enough to reach galaxies of other types later.

• Orb and associated type:

  • Teal/Norm (Euclid, the starter galaxy is Norm, the base weighting for biome spawns)
  • Red/Harsh (More extreme survival planets)
  • Blue/Empty (More dead and weird biome planets)
  • Green/Lush (More lush biome planets)

• If the player is still in Euclid at this point, then:

  • Teal leads to Hilbert Dimension (2);
  • Red leads to Calypso (3);
  • Blue leads to Budullangr (7);
  • Green leads to Eissentam (10).

• Space Anomaly teleporter is often an easy way to reach other galaxy types later; it's not uncommon for there to be a Featured Base in Eissentam.
  

Shared by: bkay201 Contributor(s): Atlas Emissaries

[indigo pier]

I didn't reset the simulation in the purge but I want to now, someone know how to go back in time ? Can som1 help me pls ?

[arctic bough]

unless you have an old save, your only option is a new game

dont worry though, there's no real gameplay difference between the two options

[indigo pier]

But, if i travel all the way to the galaxy center will I have the same aimation as th purge ? (by choosing what galaxy to xreate then ariving on it with every thinbg destroyed ?)

[arctic bough]

i think so, the animation isn't anything crazy as far as i remember

[indigo pier]

Okey thak you for your help, I hope it is the same

[forest grove]

I went to the core my first recently and all that happened was a dramatic zoom-out from that core which revealed another galactic core at the end of the cutscene, before going back to the gameplay

[short sinew]

My first time finding the cutscene felt so cool, But the animation is the same for both quests

[river abyss]

If you saved the game before that you can go to that point but if you saved it after then it’s over

[river surge]

Captain Steve on YouTube is thinking there could be another big update mid July due to with theys new quicksilver store items been added for the community

[analog breach]

Update? Maybe. Big? Pure speculation.

Here are some past updates so u can also do some speculation.

[native carbon]

many questions

what in the world is the titan update
wheres relics and beacon

[analog breach]

App not updated. Thats why

[native carbon]

makes sense i guess

[analog breach]

Titan update was the titan expedition and wraith exp living ship

[native carbon]

but that was not an update

its WP2 content

[analog breach]

I did not made the list. Complaints and feedback can be send through app UI.

[dense quartz]

Added Starship Fabricator utility to S-class landing pads at settlements.

...This is something I wanted way back in 2021 when settlements were originally added. I'm so happy right now!

[severe badge]

Did we just hurt atlas by shoving something unknown to it?

[native carbon]

WHAAAAT

[glass flare]

It feels like experimental build cadence is already slowing down. I wonder if they are heads down now on a big summer update

[thorn token]

No most of HG on vacation, top devs working on LNF and the rest junior devs bake the NMS experimentals, is my guess.
I mean the announcement for a LNF release date is overdue so all work force on this probably.

[glass flare]

LNF release date is not overdue because we have no idea when it will release.

[fierce quarry]

So question, for this run should I reset the simulation or refuse the atlas?

[river abyss]

Depends on what you want, if you reset you get to go to a new galaxy but canonically killing everyone on the past one, and if you don’t reset you stay in the same galaxy and save everyone there

[analog breach]

Canon is that both choices happend

[uncut harness]

If I travel to the center of the galaxy to a new one does that count as me killing everyone in the old one or is that just the completion of the atlas path

[forest grove]

It’s just completion progress, the galaxy still exists

[ebon spoke]

I think the idea is that it does destroy the old galaxy, same as if you did the reset

the game talks about the final Atlas interface being at the center, the whole reason the game is telling you to travel to the center is because the Atlas wants you to go there and do the reset

Obviously the quest doesn't have you actually go all the way to the center, but that is supposed to be where you get teleported to during The Purge mission

[forest grove]

That did confuse me, I got another galaxy and all that when I went to the center then when I finished the purge it was just at a normal atlas station

[pearl crown]

Alright this is a very quick question, I really shouldn’t be in this channel.

But can I just brute force my way to the center? I’m just looking for a yes or no answer.

I’m going to assume no

[humble kayak]

I wouldn't hold my breath tbh since afaik Captain Steve isn't always the most accurate

though I think everyone here would welcome new content with open arms

it's just a matter of likelihood

[ebon spoke]

The actual center is an invalid address, but you can use a portal to go to a star next to it so it just takes one jump.

[humble kayak]

darn there goes my dream of amassing a war fleet to crusade against the sentinels while on the warpath to the center of the galaxy

[river surge]

Yeah

[mortal wing]

L

[pearl crown]

Ohhhh I see. So I could theoretically go straight there if I was a complete psycho

It’s like going straight to ganon in botw 😭

[cloud jolt]

@stoic canopy
-# to view info below, enable embeds

<:info:850810445577453658> Which orb do I pick?

• This decision will damage everything that's still installed in Exosuit, active Ship and Multi-tool tech inventories (exception: exosuit core techs e.g. Life Support).

• Each of the 4 orbs represent 1 of 4 galaxy types in the game, and while this decision can't be repeated in the current save, it's easy enough to reach galaxies of other types later.

• Orb and associated type:

  • Teal/Norm (Euclid, the starter galaxy is Norm, the base weighting for biome spawns)
  • Red/Harsh (More extreme survival planets)
  • Blue/Empty (More dead and weird biome planets)
  • Green/Lush (More lush biome planets)

• If the player is still in Euclid at this point, then:

  • Teal leads to Hilbert Dimension (2);
  • Red leads to Calypso (3);
  • Blue leads to Budullangr (7);
  • Green leads to Eissentam (10).

• Space Anomaly teleporter is often an easy way to reach other galaxy types later; it's not uncommon for there to be a Featured Base in Eissentam.
  

Shared by: bkay201 Contributor(s): Atlas Emissaries

[stoic canopy]

@prime inlet if i go to a different galaxy can i just use a teleport module to go back?

or am i forever stuck

like what about my bases? my settlements?>

[plain sluice]

You can always go back to your previous bases and settlements

No progress is lost upon travelling to another galaxy, teleporters are intergalactic

[heady wyvern]

In the olden days, before there was the main quest we have now, that was pretty much all we had in the way of an overarching objective.

Sad to see that the pilgrimage is so... overshadowed.

[ebon spoke]

They kinda ruined it by removing the portal interference

It still works as a decent progression though, as long as you do it 'legitimately'. Start a fresh save and make it your main goal to reach the center without using portals. The gameplay loop starts with you trying to get your hands on a ship with a decent base hyperdrive, then turns into you making money on the side as you travel so you can buy more procedural hyperdrive upgrades. The buildup of seeing your hyperdrive stat go up and the distance to the center value start going down faster and faster as you progress is really rewarding imo

Getting access to black holes makes it a little boring though, once you have them there isn't much reason to use the hyperdrive beyond going to the nearest black hole system. It probably would work better without using them but that makes the distance you have to warp significantly larger

[pearl crown]

OH THANK GODDDDDDDDDDDD

sucks I got that spoiled for me just now, (kind of my fault, I shouldn’t be in this channel) but I’m glad that’s a thing. Was super worried about that.

[pearl crown]

Tbh it’s better to manually warp though, basically just for that one achievement

[severe badge]

What is a first spawn?

[frigid valley]

Long before events of the game First Spawn were a Gek empire. Gek were different in that time, very different, even physically.

First spawn was very imperialistic, expansionist and ruthless

They would melt Korvax for minerals in their bodies

They had very "survival of the fittest" mentality even in regards to their own kin

[severe badge]

watdafak

Ohhhh

[severe badge]

I saw that. Something about korvax has to invade gek's body to stop them iirc?

[frigid valley]

Yeah, a group of korvax contaminated spawning pools where new Geks were born with their nanite rich blood.

That altered geks and made them into what we know them as today

Some people compere first spawn to 3rd Reich but they did the same thing any empire did

Expand, invade, exploit and enslave

[tiny cliff]

nuh uh.....

........

...

..

.

[frigid valley]

Yuh uh

[tiny cliff]

w40k

explain that

[frigid valley]

40k is not NMS

[tiny cliff]

any empire??

[frigid valley]

Yes

[tiny cliff]

...

nvm

good point

💀 👍

[analog breach]

Horrors are kinda like tyranids tho. But more successful and less planet eating than in W40k. They are basicaly everywhere in the galaxy.

[fiery lantern]

I need help, i came here because is about the main story, btw, I arrived at the point that "Atlante" (I'm Italian this is our translation) is asking me if I want to restart the whole galaxy or not... What are the consequences by this point, and, this will make a problem for traveling the different galaxies?

[fervent fern]

If you choose to reset the simulation, nothing bad happens really. You'll change galaxies. You'll get 4 options for your "destination" (details here #nms-spoilers message)

Your prior galaxy doesn't disappear or anything. You don't lose progress, prior bases or anything in your inventory. The only thing is that, when arriving on the new galaxy, all your tech on your exosuit, multitool and starship will be broken and require repairs. Having a spare ship / multitool for this helps, as only your active gear gets broken, so you can use "sacrificial" gear for the travel.

[fiery lantern]

Okay thank you very much, but if I refuse?

[fervent fern]

You stay in your current galaxy. No other serious repercussions, aside from the fact that you'll have to travel manually to the core, should you wish to jump to a new galaxy (and you won't get a blueprint for a special exosuit tech tied to resetting the simulation). Reaching the core is one of the game's main "goals"; the main mission just makes this easy.

[fiery lantern]

Thank you again, I think I will reset the galaxy...

[limpid kettle]

Should I be regretting choosing to stay??? I thought it would get rid of everything 😭

[river abyss]

Don’t, you saved everyone

[limpid kettle]

Ye but how on earth do I even try to get to the centre of the galaxy through warping 😭

[fervent fern]

Not really, no. You didn't lose anything very valuable etc.; mostly a shortcut to another galaxy.

[limpid kettle]

Oh I see ok. But how do I get to the centre without it?

[fervent fern]

Few ways.

• Old warping way. It's slow, but rewarding. Do it on freighter, which has more hyperdrive range.
• Blackholes will move your laterally, but also get you closer to the center by a few thousand LY.
• Easiest way is by portals. You can get to systems very close to the galaxy's core and then make a jump; just grab appropriate adresses for this.

[river abyss]

Use glyphs to get to a nearby planet

[limpid kettle]

Ah I see. How do I get a freighter? I finished the storyline in the sense that I declined the three choices, but I have no other ships whatsoever. How do I get them?

[fervent fern]

You should have one already 😅
Getting one is part of the storyline. You get it in early game. If you don't have one, something odd happened. I'd ask in #nms-questions if that's the case

[limpid kettle]

Wait what when am I supposed to get it

Is it before or after I put Artemis in a simulation?

[fervent fern]

As for the ships, you can get others by buying them or claiming crashed ships

[fervent fern]

Very early in the game -- in one of your first warps -- you encounter a freighter being attacked. You save it from pirates, and on boarding the freighter, the captain offers you command for free. The first one is free.

You could refuse it... but I think it keeps happening on occasion until you get one. Only way of not having one is by straight up ignoring the battles I guess

[limpid kettle]

Wait when pirates attack me?

I always avoid those 😭

Ok I’m never ignoring pirates again

[fervent fern]

Not you exactly, they'd be attacking the freighter. You'd enter the battle and then they'd attack you 😅

Well, if you never claimed one, you still can.

[limpid kettle]

Oh I may have gone by one of those

[limpid kettle]

Where would I have to go

[fervent fern]

Warp to different systems until you find a freighter being attacked

[limpid kettle]

Bro u have actually been such a help

Tysm

God bless 🙏

[fervent fern]

No problem! Glad to help as I can!

For completeness sake: there are a few requirements to trigger freighter battles. The common ones are:

• 3h of in-game playtime and
• 5 warps.

But I'm not sure if that applies if you have never claimed a freighter. So should you have doubts about the mechanics in this instance, you can ask in #nms-questions; this goes beyond what I know I'm afraid lol.

[limpid kettle]

But we know for sure that I can definitely still claim the freighter so I’ll just play the game and l eventually get it

Tysm

[heavy light]

@stoic swift the only thing that changes is whether or not you get Star Seed (or remembrance, forget which is which) or Mark of the Denier, and what title you get

Think it’s star seed

Mark of the Denier and Star Seed do the same things

[dense quartz]

I still dont get those choices.
I remember HG hyping it up in the patch notes like it was a big deal where your relationship with the atlas will forever change..
And all you get is a different item.

[analog breach]

Best part. If u did atlas path earlier the game choses for u. And it locks u from chance to get other item on that save.

But lore wise both choices happend.

[long mirage]

Is dreams beneath the deep worth it to complete?

[plain sluice]

It gives you a cool helmet, and a bunch of base parts n upgrade blueprints n stuff that would otherwise cost salvaged data and nanites

[long mirage]

Ooh

Ok

[fervent fern]

The helmet alone makes it worth it. It's neat.
I should probably use it more often...

[dense quartz]

I know how it happens but like, why? I don't get what the big deal is.
I keep thinking it's content they'll eventually add to justify a choice.

[stoic swift]

if the other travellers are like us, how come some of them have very similar forms to one another?

like there's a set of traveller faces that look to have very similar biology

aside from apollo, null and artemis

[proven aurora]

its corruption, and also the universe used to be alot more complex

but as the atlas slowing is dying its getting less and less able to run a complex universe

[stoic swift]

hence the repetition?

the procedural generation

[proven aurora]

which is the lore reason multiplayer exisits

[proven aurora]

yes but also our irl tech carnt make a game that complex, but yeah its also lore\

[stoic swift]

yeah each person is supposed to be limited to the confines of their paralell universe, but the void between is collapsing, merging worlds into one

[stoic swift]

yes i know, but its cool how there's a lore reason to explain that

[proven aurora]

Boundry failing

16 16 16

also there purple glass that is on the dissonat planets is like the recycling bin leaking back into reality

[stoic swift]

each iteration is destined to eventually collapse with the atlas death, so the simulation reset is a way of just adding extra time to the atlas' timespan, with the same inevitability, right?

[proven aurora]

and the reason the sentinals kill is to "preserve" you lol

[stoic swift]

is this why the purple star systems look much more varied and realistic, because they were deleted to "save space"?

[proven aurora]

16 minutes, but yeah\

[proven aurora]

id like to say so, and its good theres a lore reason, its also not to mess up exisitng planets

mine still got messed up tho, i got scrap on my planet now which i guess is nice

[stoic swift]

yeah i just finished the main story yesterday and started all the atlantid stuff

finished those who return

onto stellar multitudes now

[proven aurora]

i forogt how much i love this game

espically now theres less bugs

[stoic swift]

i can't wait to see one of the worlds part 2 planets

from the trailers i've seen they look like such an improvement

[proven aurora]

btw if you want a really cool mountain planet for some reason one of the photo missions in space stations always takes you to a nice one

[stoic swift]

i'm aiming for a planet that looks similar to nevarro from star wars, maybe a more beiger colour

i think it'd be a cool atmosphere for an autophage settlement

[proven aurora]

settlements can spawn on volcano planets, when they fix the settlement bug i have i will be claiming on on it :d

also on my OG planet so i have a reason to go back

this my new home ^

the water glows at night

and in storms the whole lake goes green

[real sapphire]

@drifting perchDid you chose to not reset the simulation after "The purge"?

[drifting perch]

I choose reset and the green, it only shows the loading screen

I think it's broken compared to the others

[real sapphire]

did a music played after your chose green?

[drifting perch]

Yes

[real sapphire]

did you land yourself in a lush planet?

after the cutscene?

[drifting perch]

A mushy one

[real sapphire]

ah, then you probably in Eissentam Galaxy now

did your exosuit and ship techs broke?

[drifting perch]

Ofc

[real sapphire]

yeap, you already "reset" the simulation, which basically means you reached a lush galaxy by choose green after the purge.
When going to a new galaxy, what you see is not loading screen, but instead, you have reached another galaxy

[drifting perch]

Alr

[real sapphire]

of course, when you reached a new galaxy, all your techs will break (multitool, exosuit, and starship)

[thorn forge]

does the scientific research quest always end in the researcher forgetting everything? Or did I just pick the worst option?

[forest grove]

afaik it does. Can’t be helped sadly

[grizzled lark]

just finished in stellar multitudes…thought it was really cool, even if i barely understood parts of it

i kinda wish it was my first time on a gas giant though, it wasnt nearly as exciting as when i first did the titan expedition obviously

[marble otter]

When it says 'New Beginnings All the time in the world...' for the main primary mission and 'Atlas Eternal' for the atlas mission. Does this mean I have completed the story?

[plain sluice]

Yes, New Beginnings indicates that you have completed the story

There are more missions to do after the main story of course, like They Who Returned and In Stellar Multitudes which introduce you to further content

[spark pecan]

Does anyone know when we’ll get Worlds Part 3?

[glass flare]

HG has never mentioned a Part 3, so...quite possibly never

[river surge]

Lol

[native carbon]

The fun part is, we dont know when or if it even exists. It can release next week, next month, next year OR never.

[hazy iron]

only the mighty Sean knows

[prime osprey]

man I kinda miss Apollo

[uncut harness]

i wish we had apollo's and null's appearance modifiers. their body style was sick

[prime osprey]

<- me when I'm dead and/or stuck in a simulation fr

[quaint isle]

Hey guys, what's the latest datamined stuff we got? Ty

[ebon spoke]

Textures for a new ship called the Corvette, and some base building parts will be able to be attached to some sort of ship, possibly the Corvette

so nothing new in the past four months

[quaint isle]

Probably some sort of flying base, which sounds cool tbh.
Thanks a lot!

[river surge]

My flying base is the freighter lol

[uncut harness]

tru dat

our home's out on the star roads

[prime osprey]

custom space stations at some point perhaps? 👀

[runic mortar]

ooooh :o

that would be fire

[prime osprey]

Doesn't feel like a possibility for a long while tho

Or it'd be very limited like freighters

[runic mortar]

True but i feel like these devs will do anything no matter how complicated it is

[prime osprey]

That's a lot of faith

Respect

[runic mortar]

depends on how long they will keep dropping these huge updates 🤷🏼‍♂️

[prime osprey]

Forever maybe?

[runic mortar]

Im guessing they are gonna start focusing on lnf

[glass flare]

I think the main issue for NMS is that at some point it will be on all modern platforms and there won't be anyone to sell to anymore. at that point it would be a profit drain to continue updates. I guess the main platform it's not yet is iOS (phones and tablets), so I would expect a port to that sometime in the next year or two

[runic mortar]

new people can still buy the game tho

[glass flare]

yeah but at some point you tap out of the majority of people interested in your game. and without DLC or cosmetics your revenue stream kind of dries up. we're not there yet of course, but that's the eventuality

[river abyss]

They will find a way

Even if it’s microtransctions (that’s the best scenario I can imagine)

[runic mortar]

I hope they do that cuz i would pay to see more updates

[river abyss]

Sure👀

[runic mortar]

I need more updates

[fervent fern]

I mean... the game is heading towards 9 years since release. Was in the works since at least 2013, probably 2012. That's 13 years...

At some point one starts wishing not for another update, but... for NMS2.

(Yes, I know it probably won't happen, but well).

[glass flare]

i would say with Worlds, we are already at NMS2 in a lot of ways. maybe not in terms of mechanics, but definitely with the visuals

[fervent fern]

Indeed, but it's still a game heavily constrained by old code and, well, still keeping support for now outdated hardware (has to keep compatibility with PS4 etc...)

[glass flare]

honestly their engine is pretty impressive given it supports PS4, PS5, Xboxes, PC, Switch 1 and 2, and Mac, as well as PCVR and PSVR2. I don't know what it looks like on the inside, but it seems fairly modular. Only the big dog engines like UE and Unity support that many platforms

[fervent fern]

It's quite a remarkable feat

[glass flare]

though some of the feature support is a bit all over the place, with no explanations why. Mac still doesn't have terrain tessellation, yet I saw in the latest Experimental that Switch 2 just got support for it

[fervent fern]

That was a bit of a disappointment. 😆

The day it came on the exp. patch notes, first thing I posted was "Switch 2 got tessellation before Mac" lol

[glass flare]

which is weird because I thought they were both running a similar branch of the engine (ARM-based), hence why Mac doesn't have mod support

[fervent fern]

At this point I'm starting to believe it's impossible for some reason

[glass flare]

I find it hard to believe that Metal couldn't do it. But if that's the case, fingers crossed that Metal 4 makes it possible

[fervent fern]

This just gave me an idea for a pact for the next update: if Mac gets tessellation, staff chooses my username for a month.
I'll make it official when the next emoji drops. 😎

[runic mortar]

I guess they could but the would have to keep lots of content from this game because making 13 years of content again would be a waste of time in my opinion

[fervent fern]

This is more #nms-the-future discussion I guess (just realized lol), so to wrap it up: it'd be a new game. The content you have now, but expanded. You know how people keep asking about cities, planets with different biomes, etc? This kind of stuff (and much more).

But I don't see it happening, at least not for the next decade. Not only for the huge undertaking it would be: but because I guess HG is the kind of studio that would want to move forward, to new stuff. LNF and who knows what else more.

[compact coyote]

kinda want waking titan to return lol

[uncut harness]

we need some halo or dead space type cosmic horrors

[cloud jolt]

-# to view info below, enable embeds

<:info:850810445577453658> Which orb do I pick?

• This decision will damage everything that's still installed in Exosuit, active Ship and Multi-tool tech inventories (exception: exosuit core techs e.g. Life Support).

• Each of the 4 orbs represent 1 of 4 galaxy types in the game, and while this decision can't be repeated in the current save, it's easy enough to reach galaxies of other types later.

• Orb and associated type:

  • Teal/Norm (Euclid, the starter galaxy is Norm, the base weighting for biome spawns)
  • Red/Harsh (More extreme survival planets)
  • Blue/Empty (More dead and weird biome planets)
  • Green/Lush (More lush biome planets)

• If the player is still in Euclid at this point, then:

  • Teal leads to Hilbert Dimension (2);
  • Red leads to Calypso (3);
  • Blue leads to Budullangr (7);
  • Green leads to Eissentam (10).

• Space Anomaly teleporter is often an easy way to reach other galaxy types later; it's not uncommon for there to be a Featured Base in Eissentam.
  

Shared by: bkay201 Contributor(s): Atlas Emissaries

[river abyss]

About time fr

[modern bramble]

If there a option to go into a Random galaxy? That more fun i think 😄

[humble kayak]

late to the party (two days late, in fact) but Sean's said before that his reasoning for leaving EA was the excessive sequels

And even making Joe Danger 2 kind of fucked with him

a NMS2 isn't very likely, but I agree with the sentiment that we're already at what a sequel would probably be

[astral surge]

Spoiler, everyone dies in the end

[glass flare]

I'm sure that's also why they started LNF, he was probably getting tired of working on the same game for years and not making anything completely new

[river abyss]

We better not get a sequel of NMs because it would ruin the vibe and feel of it completely

[astral surge]

Light No Fire seems to have The Atlas or at least a version of The Atlas in it

[tame grotto]

[humble kayak]

I like to think it's named Prometheus

fits with the titan theme and ofc fire

[uncut harness]

we have any lore news on LNF?

[ebon spoke]

we know literally nothing about the lore of LNF.

[uncut harness]

ah, so its speculation season

[humble kayak]

for the foreseeable future

until the game comes out or we get another trailer

[modern bramble]

I think the real Atlas is Sean Murray...🤔

[uncut harness]

atlasean

[stable pendant]

This is multiverse, I think.

Or another form.

LNF is NMS prequel.

[astral surge]

That's my guess as well

[stable pendant]

That everything happened in some sort of testworld, from which later Atlas spread throughout the universe.

We cannot seize wisdom of Atlas. All we can do is to pray for His purification and His voice of knowledge.

Praise the All-siah!🙏🏻

[tame grotto]

Are we discussing NMS story spoilers or data-mined content?

Cuz I wonder if speculation of potential sequels...or prequels(?) could fit better in #nms-the-future. Just a thought.

-# And if it's specific to LNF we got #light-no-fire too. Imo, I definitely would prefer if HG treats it as a separate game / universe.

[arctic bough]

Both are fine, lore also has #nms-lore as a separate little channel

[grand jungle]

The game has so much potential

I have faith in dev team after launch recovery, but as a community builder in many mmo… find us a way to get freighters into combat with us as like a raid/galaxy cleanse thing, make it to where me and a few friends must bring and fight with our freighters together to beat a convoy of sorts… really anything to scale and let us use what we have would
Be so epic.

[humble kayak]

we have much to look forward to between now and LNF regardless

the leaks regarding Corvettes look promising, if bare bones

and HG always reminds us "More will follow" so there'll be whatever happens after that to look towards too

[astral surge]

Spoiler it was all a dream

[humble kayak]

i'd cry

[uncut harness]

Honestly really looking forward to an npc dialog overhaul

[uncut harness]

are we sure LNF isn't just a project name for a new expedition or update?

[sour fossil]

It is a new game set in a fantasy Earth setting with proper MP

So by definition it can't be NMS

[river surge]

Lol

[safe quarry]

Yes, we have a trailer and everything! though the trailer is a year and a bit old at this point.

[astral surge]

what trailer?

[river surge]

Lnf

Light no fire trailer

[analog breach]

The only trailer

[astral surge]

you made it seem like there was another one out

[analog breach]

If only

[glass flare]

weird that terrain tessellation for Switch 2 didn't make it into the patch, unless they forgot to add that line in the notes

[fervent fern]

That was odd indeed. I kinda want to know if it was actually implemented.

If it wasn't, well, it's a tiny sign of being more difficult than it seems...

[glass flare]

yeah I don't have a Switch 2 so I'm just going by the patch notes

[river surge]

Gib

[scenic bridge]

YAAA I BEAT THE GAAME!!!

[silk field]

I just finished the story and man, was that an emotional rollercoaster. I'm a wreck and I'm not ashamed to say it.

[left trellis]

bro

I just got the message from artemis

I chose the simulation

"I just broke free, we need to meet" NOOO

i folded and told the truth

[left trellis]

welp

I finished the game

that story fucking bent me over a couch bro

my heart

[silk field]

Right!? I thought I was the only one.

[left trellis]

what did you pick for artemis? i

bro

I cant even

I was expecting a funny space game

not to get my heart torn out of my chest and crushed into the dirt

[silk field]

I also chose the simulation route and told him. I figured being alive was better than actively being responsible for KILLING him.

[left trellis]

artemis was a dude?

Im 89% sure artemis was a girl

[left trellis]

I picked the simulation and told them because Id rather they have a choice.. but holy fuck the way the purge ended with the dialogue with her repeating herself

that fucking broke me

because it reminded me of my great grandmother who passed away from dementia

gter4wsaiuohuigehriuearhkgiorea

this game

[silk field]

Idk, I guess I never really put a gender to it. Just alien.

[left trellis]

yeah

[silk field]

Damn, I'm really sorry to hear that. I think I skipped through some dialog cause I just hopped on my freighter and kept warping the 16 times. But it had me tearing up for a few solid minutes when I reset the simulation.

[left trellis]

I didnt reset

I listend to null

[silk field]

I had hopes I would get to actually meet with Apollo, and I ran towards the simulation room to see if Artemis was still there. This game is a masterpiece on never giving you closure.

[left trellis]

its chill, Ive made peace with it a while ago

[left trellis]

I KNOW RIGHT

I was expecting some final dialogue with artmeis or null or any of them

I got some sort of closure with appolo

but like holy fucking shit

[silk field]

Wasn't Null at one point telling Atlas he was angry Atlas didn't praise his efforts and started to reset it? That's what I got from that one dialog a few moments before the end.

[left trellis]

yea

but null also screams at you to not reset it

to not make the same mistake he did

and based on dialogue I saw that the universe reseting meant the sentinles murder everything in under an hour

[silk field]

I mean, but what's there to save? Korvax who worship Atlas, sentinels and molded the Gek? Geks who instead of colonizing now are greedy traders? Vykeen who just want war and nothing else? Travelers who are either dead, dying or translucent stuck in dimensions? Nada and Polo who are just toddlers in denial?... Yeah, this game broke me.

[left trellis]

I helped every distress signal I found, fixed every ship that met me in flight, did everything I could to help people at every point, I couldnt just reset all of that

The base overseers that trust me

the korvax scientest in my frieighter that seems so eager to make me proud

I cant fuckin reset that bro this game broke me

[silk field]

Do you want me to give you a small spoiler to what happens if you do reset?

[left trellis]

Sure

i finished the story anyway

[silk field]

First of all, you can go back to Euclid and to your terminals. And you get to keep your freighter with your staff. Nada and Polo are just oblivious and tell you not to say nothing more about the reset. You don't get any new message from Apollo, Null, nor Artemis. You spawn in a new planet like the beginning with fucked up equipment, but you get a new recipe. Remembrance... 'Everything you ever knew is within.' and that shit hits hard.

[left trellis]

I got that too

remembrance

im just doing the fuckass atlas seed crafting recipe again

[silk field]

But it doesn't make sense if you didn't reset it! God this game is inconsistent.

[left trellis]

i mean i did the full route of screaming at the atlas

got all the dialogue

right up till the final message

then I refused it

I already got all the thinking of the past dialogue

[silk field]

I consider that stupid orb like the memory of Artemis and Apollo from before the reset. It meant a lot in the moment.

[left trellis]

same

I think its the memory of artmeis, apollo, null, and your own journy

I also think it matches up with the galaxy types

lush for artemis, Harsh for appolo, dead for null, and normal for you

think about it

Fuck hold on gotta beat a pirate dreadnaught

[silk field]

Which one was normal? Wasn't it harsh, empty, lush and technology advanced?

[silk field]

Send me an invite!

[left trellis]

im back

[left trellis]

shi i missed this sorry

[left trellis]

im pretty sure the tech advanced was identicaly to euclid

[silk field]

Check dm

[left trellis]

got it

ill add you tmmrrw

[clever fox]

I’m at the purge mission right now but I’m also at the dust of creation in the atlas path does anybody know what I should do first or how to do either because I seem to be doing loops

[uncut harness]

All NPC & Traveller genders are ambigious in NMS, the correct way to refer to Artemis is they/them but some players choose to say she cause Artemis is a name usually associated with female figures

[ebon spoke]

Gendered pronouns are only ever used in reference to the Void Mother. Fauna can have male or female as their gender, and I think the options for suit voices are labeled in gendered terms. Everything else is alien and presumably cannot be mapped to our understanding of gender.

[rare imp]

I’ve always referred to artemis as bro/bruh

[astral surge]

The Void Mother has been stated as a she as far as I am aware

[forest grove]

The suit voices are listed as feminine and masculine

[astral surge]

Yeah it is weird

[river abyss]

It was better when the suit voice was just a voice in our heads

[astral surge]

Yep

[river abyss]

I just thought of it as ai

Robot

[astral surge]

It's more then that

[river abyss]

My schizophrenia?

[glacial tiger]

So I just finished the quest that gets all the purple planets into the universe and my only thought is "...there is no way I'm doing something good right now"
What's the verdict on void momma so far? Good? Evil? Just kinda better than the Atlas?

[river surge]

You mean purple systems

[glacial tiger]

Yeag

[river surge]

Lol

[uncut harness]

There are conflicting opinions on this, overall the VM has good intentions and wants to preserve the simulation, but it boils down to an do the means justify the end situation.

Ariadnes death can be traced back to the VM in some way and it has been implied that traveller souls are being fed to Null who is working together with the void mother. It was either during the cursed expedition or a sentinel pillar log that even says that one of VM‘s goals is to recreate the creator, probably in hopes that they will be somehow able to save the Universe.

This is probably being done by merging traveller souls with Null who is the first of them all, which is why I believe that they are directly responsible for Ariadnes death (the current Ariadne at the Anomaly is an Impostor, maybe even a presence of Null/VM themselves) and the VM so indirectly. In any case Laylaps confirms that the VM is basically hunting travellers.

The VM has also been stated to work together with the family of glass which I originally believed to be the Sentinels but having redone the Artemis storyline I think they‘re actually different beings. And they‘re described as staring at us & Artemis with grins of malice when Artemis is stranded there. The text also states something about them saying words which don‘t suit their alien tongues at all, which makes sense since the World of glass is an archive/backup where the Sentinels store everything that has been part of the simulation, so being there should grant you knowledge about everything.

I believe the families of glass to be the prognitor races who were present before the Atlas started to degrade and only simulated the current 3 races.

So I definitely wouldn’t trust the VM, but I‘d not 100% deem her evil at this point even tho all the Horror creations which are implied to be related to her don’t paint a particulary nice image. But there are other theories around such as the VM having nightmares and producing the abominations as a result of that.

[humble kayak]

I like that explanation. If you're right (which I'm defaulting to because we don't have evidence to the contrary) that sets up yet another dilemma within the story

The VM and Atlas, to our knowledge and from our perspective, are diametrically opposed

The Atlas is holding up the world, and is benevolent at best and ambivalent at worst, yet does not have the knowledge nor ability to save the universe. It's freaking out because its one true purpose is failing and it doesn't know how to fix the problem.

The Void Mother very well might be malignant - a program that only wishes to continue the existence of the universe so its own agenda can be advanced and its own existence preserved. The VM probably isn't trying to preserve the universe out of genuine concern for anything else but itself.

So the question gets asked; who do you side with? You have a benevolent yet ultimately powerless creator on one side of the coin and a malicious, rogue AI who might be able to save the simulation but for all of the wrong reasons - out of selfishness and desire instead of a genuine desire to help

Our decision may very well come down to "Are you willing to (metaphorically and possibly literally) sell your soul and make a deal with the devil to prolong a thing's existence past its natural lifespan"

"Or do you stay with the thing who does have a genuine interest in preserving existence, but yet is powerless to stop the inevitable collapse?"

[uncut harness]

i don't think they're diametrically opposed. i'd say its more like a...lost personality? something like how the atlas is the only god entity, but because of just time and wear, it fragmented as a method of survival, so that even if it dies, the fragment, here the VM, still can continue. the fragment was supposed to be similar to the atlas, but due to the damage of time, the fragment itself got a bit corrupted. i'd say thats why we can see autophages on all inhabited planets

from a machine POV, that's essentially us shifting corrupt data from a faulty unreadable memory to working memory register. the data might be screwed up a bit, but its not ｇｏｎｅ

which could be why we had to do so much like make the lattice and all to integrate the purple planets into normal space. the atlas system was pretty much unable to read said data because it came from a corrupted register. we bridged that register to one that worked, and transferred the data

[uncut harness]

Some say that the Atlas appears rather apathetic to its creation. It has deleted entire universes and races, or at least allowed them to vanish without a trace and did nothing. Worshippers of the Atlas (Korvax Convergence) seem to value conformity, and will attempt to kill individuals deemed "anomalous," such as Nada.

However we must remember the physical state of the Atlas. The tragedy regarding Korvax Prime likely wouldn‘t have happened without the physical degradation of the Atlas which resulted in only 3 races being present. In the end the Atlas seems more like an innocent child that is simply unable to fully comprehend what‘s happening to it.

The Void Mother, on the other hand, can appear to care deeply for life, existence and individuality. She has fought to bring her children back from a state of non-existence, and is working to return from the Void, herself, likely in an attempt to save either herself and/or the rest of creation from the Atlas's „apathy“. Followers of Void Mother (Autophage,Laylaps, pirates) tend to value individuality and freedom.

In the sunken freighter log from the Omega expedition, she chastised the Atlas for allowing Leto to be deleted, while she instead dug through the glass archives searching for the lost traveller until her hands bled lilac.

However, knowing the VM‘s ultimate goal I don‘t think she wanted to save Leto out of compassion, but rather because her plan requires it. So she might have only tried to restore Leto in order to take their soul. There‘s another lore segment where the travellers are being blamed for everything due to technically being the Atlas‘ creator. The VM’s also responsible for many deaths herself, feeding others to her horrors.

She also tries to manipulate Telamon. The Sentinel Pillars/Laylaps say something about many Telamons having „brought their travellers to us“, while some „have resisted and fought back“.

So it seems like depending on their mood, Telamon either sides with or opposes the VM.

Which is pretty fascinating since Telamon seems to be the most aware of all beings in NMS, even having a genuine 4th wall break in the boundary logs calling us the players out, meaning that they are self-aware of their existence within a video game and the whole drama about the simulations death basically being meaningless.

So it comes down to the offer from the Abyss to help Telamon „be free again“, likely meaning independent from the traveller as they were before the Atlas kicked them out. Given that we can encounter a dead traveller who is well…stated to be dead, but their suit keeps on speaking and imitating their voice, I‘m not sure if that‘s going to go well for Telamon.

There are also many warnings scattered throughout the lore saying not to drink the Water that the Abyss & her Sentinels have infected, likely from people who have either consumed it themselves or saw what happened to others who did so. Imo, the VM cannot be trusted. The way it communicates often appears to be very manipulative. Her followers like Laylaps (that name also has a rather unsettling meaning if you look up the mythology behind it) also tend to speak in weird ways, it‘s almost cult-like.

But in any case, I dont really like the Telamon 4th wall break part of the lore, 4th wall breaks were never appealing to me and take away meaning from what‘s going on within said Universe so I usually choose to ignore them.

[green pasture]

It would be awsome if we knew more of ||the first spawn, and korvax prime, and mabye some Vy’keen stuff, like mabye have a vision or something of how Korvax prime was and its destruction, and mabye even a spin off or sum or just an expansion or hell, even an expedition where you get to play on the first spawn “era” per say,|| that would be awsome

(Don’t open if you don’t want lore spoilers)

[zenith perch]

Leto?

[glacial tiger]

My one thought is "can the simulation be saved"
Unless the Atlas can fix a hardware problem through software... I don't see it happening.

Unless it can make a little sentinel drone to do repairs realityside or something, it seems the most that can be done is to ease the pain a little and comfort it.

(Also restoring the systems just makes me think "those had to be excised for a reason, computers don't just randomly erase data")

[uncut harness]

Leto was a traveller briefly mentioned during the Omega Expedition, it‘s the first and only time we have heard of them (yet).

[analog breach]

In greek mythology leto was apollo and artemis mother.

[safe quarry]

Is there any merit at all to what Professor Cynical's new video says about the next update? He's not the most trustworthy source and definitely a clickbait mill.

@grizzled apex He says something about hints being in the game files, any idea what that could be other than corvettes? He talks about a 'new game mode' being added to the expedition cycle. That just sounds like some ability to replay the expeditions to me.

[uncut harness]

Yeah, the VM seems to be blissfully unaware of the Black Hole nearby. Maybe her goal is to reach out of the simulation in order to send a distress signal to the ones who abandoned it, but even a super advanced interstellar civilization would hardly be capable of saving anything in such a scenario.

Iirc, humanity abandoned their original home in the first place because the Atlas predicted the arrival of this black hole in the future.

Maybe there‘s more to the black hole stuff we don’t know yet, maybe its not actually real? I cant wait for this stuff to conclude tbh, there are so many layers to it now…the more I know, the more confused I feel. But actively aiding the Abyss when it‘s going around offing travellers and working with sketchy allies just feels wrong to me, even if its being done „for the greater good“.

But we also can‘t really tell how much the VM really knows about whats happening with the Atlas and even outside of the simulation.

[uncut harness]

Wow I hope he‘s right for once cause having the ability to replay Expeditions would be absolutely amazzzing.

[zenith perch]

There's no merit to anything he says, its just generic clickbait

replaying expeditions would be good yes

[safe quarry]

This is what i suspected. Just like how he covers patch notes as 'BIGGEST UPDATE YET!'

[safe quarry]

Replayable expeditions would make sense with the switch 2 release, as new players wont have ever had the chance to get the old rewards. But that was true of the mac release too I suppose and they didn't get replayable expeditions.

[uncut harness]

Yeah but the Mac NMS crowd is much more niche so in this case they might reconsider it

[safe quarry]

That's true. I also had it in the back of my mind tho that if they ever did open up expeditions to be replayable, it would also be them setting up to step away from NMS more, giving it longevity for after they've finished updating it.

at the same time, Sean Murray did say it was their hope that they'd continue to do NMS and LNF updates in tandem for the future.

Professor Cynical talked about it like its a new game mode, which I suppose replayable expeditions could be, but I figured they put that terminal in so we could one day choose which expedition to replay from there.

at the same time, they could still have a 'new game' option that lets you start using an expedition, much like expeditions do now, only with the ability to choose which one.

[astral surge]

I still want more lore videos for NMS

[uncut harness]

You mean like official lore videos from HG? I doubt we'll ever get that, if anything NMS is closer to its end than beginning, where such worldbuilding is usually done . Its support might still go on for a long while, but I would expect to get content less frequently once LNF hits and the focus inevitably shifts.

[zenith perch]

I don't see them stopping nms updates till they feel they're satisfied with the game

I'd love future updates to have the continual depth of wp2

[uncut harness]

The space stations also have a lot of space which can be used for future additions, so they might even have a roadmap planned or are at least considering continuing updating/thinking about updates for a good while.

[dense quartz]

There's still those "time storms" (or whatever they're called) that were present in an expedition but haven't been added into the base game.
I honestly expected to get those in purple systems when we were still waiting for Worlds Part 2 to drop.

[molten karma]

I really hope we see a World's Part 3 sooner rather than later. I'd love more variety especially in fauna and color.

[ebon spoke]

another caves update could be nice

I don't think there's much they can do for the terrain gen but having more cave biome variations as well as more rare resources and treasures in them would be nice

[uncut harness]

Well we are a month away from the game‘s 10 year anniversary so I‘m kinda expecting a very significant summer update, maybe even a Worlds Pt. 3. And I hope they really do wait until the 9th of August to drop it, only giving us an Expedition if they wanna fill in the gap (and maybe some new limited merch, that would be amazing). But I wouldn’t mind going another month without content, I’m on a fresh save anyways.

In any case, Worlds Pt.3 would likely address either POI‘s, Base Building (hopefully not!), maybe or less likely fauna (I don’t really think it’s possible for NMS‘ fauna to have more complex behavior, but maybe I‘ll get proven wrong!). Maybe even the faction system but I don‘t think that‘d warrant a Worlds kind of update, but it depends on what they‘d really do with it.

A poi update could be connected to many other things aswell. It could end up improving caves by adding underground poi‘s, it could even end up being not just limited to the planets and also add more stuff to space (and overhauling derelicts/adding more procedural dungeons) which might also lead to an expansion of the faction system etc. A poi update would be my favorite canidate cause so many other features could be added/updated alongside with it.

But there‘s also still the corvette so who knows, maybe it‘s just gonna be about that.

[sour fossil]

small correction, 9th anniversary, game was released in 2016

[uncut harness]

Oh right ouch that‘s not as significant of a number then.

[uncut harness]

all anniversaries are significant

and honestly, we need to be able to use staves while on pets

[worn burrow]

should i bring anything else to the atlas mission i just made the 10 curiosity things but idk if ill need anymore resources

[crisp wing]

Im pretty sure you just need the last one. I did it like 2 days ago on my new character, and I didnt need any other resources

[gloomy isle]

Shouldn't be long until the next update

I'm assuming August, probably with the corvettes

[astral surge]

I want more piracy!

[worn burrow]

is there an ending to atlas eternal

[astral surge]

I don't think so

[worn burrow]

i thought you were able to get the staff from atlas missions

[astral surge]

I wish, but no it was only avalible from Expedtion 12 which you can't get through legit means anymore

thankfully I got it but you can still get staffs through the Autophage Questline

[crisp wing]

Yeah the three missions at the top that are story stay there forever, the autophage let you build staffs just not the expedition one

[forest grove]

No Man’s Sky: Caves and Cliffs

[molten basin]

I need help guys. Which one I deciade? Birth a new star or Walk away.

[icy citrus]

Birth

[uncut harness]

always birth

[river surge]

Is there anything more hidden in the game files for quicksilver store when the 4th item has unlocked anything more new ?

[native carbon]

any new datamined goodies?

[river surge]

Yes please lol

[sour fossil]

Beacon didn't bring anything new aside from couple upcoming decals

[astral surge]

Still cool but nothing major, maybe next update

[molten basin]

Which galaxy should I choice? Ruthless-Serene-Frozen-Imperfect?

[astral surge]

Do you know what they do?

[night sentinel]

I think you got ghosted..

I’m gonna guess,
ruthless: sentinels
Serene: lush and green
Frozen: frozen
Imperfect: normal (like Euclid)

[uncut harness]

Alright so the four galaxy's described above actually go along like this
(Green) Serene: lush with life and full of animals and less violence
(Blue) Historic: an old universe lackluster of in most systems that includes the 3 races.
(Red) Hazardous: you will more likely encounter sentinels, hazardous planets, and everything is generally more violent.
(Tan?) Imperfect: is the normal Galaxy as said above

[uncut harness]

Teal would be right color for the last one I think

[real sapphire]

The above only affects yellow star systems

[dawn gate]

i am looking for info about what happens after the atlas path. currently i have the quests the first traveller, the space anomaly and the atlas path. doing the atlas path wont cut me of from the others like i am siding with atlas right?

[analog breach]

!faq-atlaspath

[cloud jolt]

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<:AtlasNmscord:1269532093076078658> The Atlas Path

The Atlas Path objective is to visit Atlas Stations and learn the 10 Atlas Seed blueprints. Once a blueprint has been learned, the mission will task you with progressing on to the next Atlas Station.

To unlock all the blueprints, you must have reached Magellan rank by completing 50 Journey Milestones. Check your milestone progress and rank in your Catalog & Guide.

The Atlas Path can be progressed in tandem with the main story mission titled The Purge. Type !faq-artemispath in #bot-spam for more details.

Craft the last seed, Heart of the Sun, after unlocking it. For a list of resources you'll need, see image »

Depending on the choice made at the 11th (final) Atlas Station, you will either learn the Star Seed or the Mark of the Denier exosuit technology blueprint. An endless mission titled Atlas Eternal will then be available, rewarding 1 Atlas word, and approximately 600 nanites with each additional interaction.

Known issues:

• Leaving the final Atlas Interface system to get resources for crafting Heart of the Sun can lead to bugs. We strongly recommend that you craft Heart of the Sun before entering the last Atlas station.
• You may end up with two Atlas Eternal missions in your Log if you unlocked Mark of the Denier.

Contributors: Atlas Emissaries

[grizzled apex]

Hey! Sorry that ping didn't really pop up 😅. Nothing of the sort in the files. Relics and Beacons added absolutely 0 (at least significant) unused content. Like most things he says, im fairly confident he's pulling it out of his ass. Best not to give attention to these kinda people imo.

[ebon spoke]

The basis of his argument seemed to be "This is the first time we've gotten an update with no expedition, therefore the next expedition will be huge and completely different"

[sour fossil]

The basis is none of NMS YTbers hold any point when talking about future of the game

[ebon spoke]

Which isnt true, its only been a year since Orbital, which had no expedition either

[sour fossil]

The basis is spewing bullshit on media platforms sells

And as such can be ignored

[ebon spoke]

Besides, the reason Beacon had no expedition doesn't seem too hard to explain anyway. You couldn't make an expedition around settlement mechanics because there are only so many settlements per planet. Plus Switch players wouldn't be able to play it anyway. They could have made an unrelated filler expedition but they definitely wanted the update to coincide with the Switch 2 release and didn't have the time.