light-no-fire

[thick arrow]

wonder what the creature battles will be for light no fire?

[little frost]

likely battling wild life with your pets

[thick arrow]

either its going to be identical pokemon-like, not a part of light no fire, or (my guess) its going to be trainable pets that aid you

[thick arrow]

thats my thinking

[little frost]

yea, maybe your mounts can be used for combat

[thick arrow]

dragon wars in the sky

[little frost]

[opaque citrus]

Lair vibes

[undone gust]

Do we have a year for LNF?

[hushed latch]

Sometime between now and the death of the universe.

[dense token]

Doing anything other than lighting fires

[jaunty haven]

light no fire... okay, but then what is the primary heat source?

[dense token]

The sun

[thick arrow]

The heat death?

By fire?

[simple light]

Can you build a castle in it

[thick arrow]

Light NO fire wont becoming out if the world ends in a ball of fire so try a timeline of now till halfway thru the infinity of the afterlife

[thick arrow]

One would assume

You can build custom houses at minimum

That was in the trailer

[simple light]

I want to build a castle town

[thick arrow]

Real

[opaque citrus]

When all stars burn out and all black holes merge into one

[thick arrow]

Wait you’re right. The end of fire would when Light No Fire comes out lol

I retract my previous statement

LIGHT NO FIRE RELEASE DATE CONFIRMED: THE HEAT DEATH OF THE UNIVERSE

[left gale]

Same

[left gale]

What do y'all think is the first No Man's Sky update HG used as a tester for LNF mechanics?

[cinder grotto]

Echoes would be my guess, if the game has been in development for 7 years and that's where NMS started getting more widespread praise

they could've started trying other game ideas with the improved game engine

[opaque citrus]

Nms is test ground for lnf since the beginning of its development.

We just didint noticed it back then

[fallen fable]

Definitely!

Those words are true to our believes, brother!

[thick arrow]

Imma start an assasination business

Franchise and branch out across countries

[neon vault]

I don't wanna light no fire

I'm not an arsonist

[thick arrow]

I am

🔥

[hushed latch]

Isn’t that what we aren’t supposed to be doing.

[thick arrow]

shhhh

[shrewd wadi]

But what if we do not light the fire but feed fires started by others?

[hushed latch]

Hmm.

[fallen fable]

Light No Fire is a prequel for NMS, change my mind!

[thick arrow]

How long ago of a prequel are we thinking?

Like five million years?

[bold verge]

we didint start the fire

it was always burning as the worlds been turnin

[bold verge]

id hazard at billion

[viscid bear]

What’s the story about light no fire

[safe brook]

you see a fire? no you didn't

[sand wasp]

We know nothing, have only had the little teaser trailer

[charred dirge]

It’s the sequel to dark souls if you don’t light the fire

[clever mirage]

It literally says no fire, just light

[half wren]

I might light a little fire

just a smidge

I wonder how if we'll be able to tunnel into the ground like with NMS and if so how far we can go

[thick arrow]

hopefully deep i want to make a metropolis at the Earth's Core

A hub for the entire world

[hushed latch]

Until your PC can’t do it anymore probably.

[half wren]

hopefully there's an update to coincide with the NMS 10 year anniversary

[thick arrow]

I’d bet good money there will be

At least a mention

[heavy herald]

hope there are cooler looking dragons than in the trailer, and maybe more things dragons can do than be used for traveling

[hushed latch]

I mean your ship in NMS has quite a few uses (Albeit mostly travelling) so I assume it's mostly similar.

[thick arrow]

I think the dragons will be pretty cool

Whats wrong with the trailer ones?

They were varied shapes, sizes, and colours right?

[crude venture]

multipurpose i guess.. flying/fighting/storage

bare minimum actually

[cosmic ravine]

Think we will get more information/ release window for LNF at Summer Games Fest?

[clever coyote]

Nope

[thick arrow]

Hopefully

But i honestly dont have hopes for anytime soon with this game

They will announce like nothing else until a few months befoe the release date and only after they are COMPLETELY ready

Dont want to deal with desth threats from hype going off the rails like they did last year

[cosmic ravine]

Yeah, for sure. They have definitely learned from their mistakes and more which is what makes NMS so awesome along with to all being free updates and not micro transactions. I would assumed LNF will be the same in that regard.

[thick arrow]

Hello Games needs have more merch and plushies

Or like a patreon/go fund me

So we can pay them more money

They deserve it lol

[cosmic ravine]

100% agree with that

[thick arrow]

Merch would be goated

Like an awesome hoodie with the light no fire or no mans sky logo

[bronze falcon]

Hoping LNF will have. A Single-Player Offline feature like they have in NMS.

I'm not into MMO style, but respect people that do play that way.

Still getting the game to support the devs.

I like thinking through how to gather and refine resources to get more advanced resources and tech.

LNF, bare bones resources (plants, minerals, ore, metal, farming, clothing/armor). Maybe a water wheel to have power and irrigation pipes.

I'm here for it

[hushed latch]

I've heard theories that that's going to be the only way to play the game. Multiplayer might be similar to Stardew or Terraria. They never confirm that it's an MMO, that's just assumed.

[bronze falcon]

I appreciate the response. Thank you 😊

[hushed latch]

"Carve a life together. Meet players from across the globe, build a life, explore and survive together. Construct persistent buildings and communities, or strike out alone to discover the world for others."

Take what you will.

[crude venture]

sounds exactly like nms multiplayer option

[crystal willow]

Game is tagged on steam as singplayer/co-op

That's what the developer selected

[hushed latch]

That's not what I meant lol.

[crystal willow]

No, you took some part of description and assumed that it means MMO

While no where does it say that it will be anything more than multiplayer NMS has

[hushed latch]

Oh that's exactly what I didn't say.

[crystal willow]

Then I guess I misread

[hushed latch]

I meant to say it doesn't mean it's an MMO because nowhere it says that.

[hushed latch]

Might just be me - I'm bad at using english sometimes.

[crystal willow]

That makes two of us

The topic of LNF being an MMO comes and goes, but it almost always stems from a misunderstanding of what Light No Fire seems to be trying to be and what an MMO or even multiplayer means.

Death Stranding has multiplayer; you can't play with others directly, but you can work towards common goals, deliver each other's packages, or donate equipment which can be picked up by another player.

Death Stranding's multiplayer is described as asynchronous, one in which players don't play together but can interact indirectly.

No Man's Sky offers ambient multiplayer; as you travel the universe, you might be connected with another player if you stumble upon the same system in your games and nothing blocks the matchmaking server.

You aren't connected to that player at all times while you play, the moment they leave the system they are gone; you also aren't dependent on a server as your game runs locally. Multiplayer happens in the background.

You can also find other players' bases and discoveries which would be an asynchronous/indirect multiplayer element.

MMOs usually work by having a large number of players all present on the same map and constantly connected, as a significant amount of things is handled on the server side.

All things Light No Fire describes itself as can be achieved without the game being an MMO, while its attempt to be an MMO would introduce a lot of problems for the devs, not to mention the resources and work needed.

Additionally, devs tagged the game as single player/co op already

[cosmic ravine]

I feel like if LNF is 1 large earth sized planet, that planet will essentially be a mega server and all players play on the same planet. But if it’s to scale the same size as earth, even if you have 300k for example playing at one time, if you don’t spawn in the same exact locations as everyone else then essentially it may be a long time before you run into other players. So I think it technically could be MMO like, but more so a survival fantasy world with MMO like features.

But if they treat it like other survival games and the earth like planet is only in your locally created game or dedicated server then that would make it more single player/ co-op. I love the former idea but I feel like it’ll likely be the closer to the later of the two.

[crystal willow]

I feel like if LNF is 1 large earth sized planet, that planet will essentially be a mega server and all players play on the same planet.

In the same way like NMS universe is one mega server? Because it isn't. As I said, NMS runs locally, and LNF will, in all likelihood, also run completely locally with a matchmaking server to facilitate ambient multiplayer.

With procedural generation, a map isn't stored, but an area is generated every time you visit. Because it's generated using the same seed and algorithm every time, it is identical for every player. When you leave, the map is unloaded and it's gone.

Again, I think assumptions that LNF will be an MMO or that it will function like an MMO stem from a misunderstanding of what all those things mean.

How much would running a "mega server" even cost? How much work would it require to set up and maintain the infrastructure of a "mega server"?

Did Star Citizen finish working on their server meshing with their budget?

[crystal willow]

NMS multiplayer instance can fit up to 32 players if hosting player is on PC or the latest gen console.

Light No Fire due to technical reasons is unlikely to allow for more than that, not unless there is some breakthrough in network engineering sector.

[cosmic ravine]

Right, that’s why I said more than likely it’ll just be like most survival games and it’ll be 1 planet per dedicated server or local save. Would be cool if they could make it one planet that everyone and their brother and sister could play with, but to support that would likely be unrealistic and expensive.

[crystal willow]

Right, that’s why I said more than likely it’ll just be like most survival games and it’ll be 1 planet per dedicated server or local save.

It's still not what I meant, not a planet per dedicated server or save. I don't think there will be dedicated servers, that's just doesn't seem to be needed or it's not something the devs did previously.

Would be cool if they could make it one planet that everyone and their brother and sister could play with.

That's what No Man’s Sky offers and what Light No Fire is likely to be too.

Maybe let me put it that way so it's simpler.

Every "save" uses the same proc gen system and as such has the same world, for the purpose of simplicity imagine that every save and every player has identical copy of the world.

As you walk around in your world, you happen to stumble upon a spot another player stumbled upon in their world. A matchmaking server will connect you two and synchronize your worlds by sending you what the other player is doing from their game and vice versa, so you two can interact with each other. When you or they leave the area, the connection is lost.

[thick arrow]

I think no matter what form of multiplayer LNF has it will be great but i guess we just have to wait and see

[crude venture]

[frigid thicket]

Is it gonna be PREDOMINANTLY multiplayer tho?

because I don’t have many friends… 😔

[hushed latch]

Probably not.

[tropic hatch]

i mean NMS isn't really PREDOMINANTLY multiplayer but it's still advertised as a multiplayer game.

it'll be the same im sure

[opaque citrus]

Mp in nms was added bc pepole wanted it. Its more like a side feature. Lnf has multiplayer in mind from the start. So mp hopefuly will be improved in lnf

[shy tangle]

light all the fires

[lofty fog]

So are we thinking LNF release date year 2027? 2028?

[craggy shore]

2077

Hey with how early they announce games and how long it takes for them to actually come out, its not an impossible guess

[hushed latch]

Sometime between now and the death of the universe. If not then then probably before GTA 6

[thick arrow]

I’m betting after GTA6

[fallen fable]

I hope LNF Discord will allow us to do the same as #expedition-logs. 😛

[void palm]

Considering it’s largely the same mod team I wouldn’t be surprised

[fallen fable]

Yeah! 🙂

[cinder notch]

https://www.tickcounter.com/countup/498574/days-since-light-no-fire-trailer

[fallen fable]

The clock is ticking! 😐

Ticking.

Ticking... 😨

[cinder notch]

t
i
c
k
i
n
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[thick arrow]

doomsday clock

[fallen fable]

Yes

[hushed latch]

Why is a doomsday clock? Isn’t that like… the opposite thing?

[thick arrow]

Idk remember what happened with No mans sky. When LNF comes out it will be the end of the world

jk

[crude venture]

nah, it will be alright. there might be a bit less people for some time but def not end of the world 🙂 (if you talking about people jumping from a game to game)

[crude venture]

i love it

[thick arrow]

I’ve been looking at trailers of Crimson Desert recently and it seems like a pretty good “substitute” for LNF while we wait

[sudden steeple]

108 days left... until something happens

[thick arrow]

10 years of No mans sky?

Summer Games Fest?

just something

[fallen fable]

Yeah

[polar nymph]

i place my bets on this

[sudden steeple]

Just because the first trailer of NMS and the first (and only) trailer of LNF were released exactly 10 years apart I expect something for the 10 years of the NMS release too

[thick arrow]

Hmm good point

[hushed latch]

Oh dear. This feels like a conspiracy theory. Then again it isn't unreasonable. Wouldn't be surprised if they pushed the release date back for this very reason.

[sand wasp]

So let me see if I follow this correctly. On the 10th Anniversary of NMS you expect to hear about LNF.

[nimble sleet]

That is what we expect but honestly it is just hopium

[half sigil]

It would make sense

[sand wasp]

I think the opposite, 10 years of support and updates is a milestone most games will never reach - taking the attention away from NMS for a trailer or news about LNF feels off to me.

[cinder notch]

makes sense

[thick arrow]

Will probably be an epic NMS update id say

and i think they will truly announce LNF at Summr games fest

They use Geoff Knightley a lot and they had the shirt for the Game Awards

[errant horizon]

344 days!

that planet is going to be huge - really excited

[hushed latch]

Till what?

[errant horizon]

I saw a post on IG talking about LNF and that it would take 344 real life days to walk across the planet they are developing

[hushed latch]

We don't know walk speed or anything about the game tbh.

Calculation would be rough at best.

[open temple]

If you’re talking about an average walking speed of around 3 mph, that lines up pretty closely with how long it would take to walk around the earth. Assuming there was a clear path to walk on. And you didn’t have to eat or sleep or stop walking for any reason.

[thick arrow]

Gonna be uncontacted civilizations for months after the game releases if it were MMO

but i highly doubt it is np matter how awesome it would be

[hushed latch]

I would assume years. I mean even in a biplane our world would be a monster to chart.

[errant horizon]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DXmVEliD3Kw/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

That’s the post I saw - not very descriptive

[crystal willow]

Not sure if they are trolling or just bullshitting.

Light No Fire was stated all the way back in 2023 to have a world the size of planet Earth.

Earth's equatorial circumference is a bit over 40,000 km. The average walking speed of an adult is around 5 km per hour, so it would take ~8,000 hours of walking, which translates to around 334 days. This could also apply to the world LNF takes place in, as it's supposed to be the same size.

TL;DR
Nothing new.

Posting in 2026 that something was revealed without mentioning that it was revealed all the way back in 2023 is, IMHO, purposeful misdirection to increase clicks/reach of an otherwise worthless post.

[crystal willow]

Technically, they didn't lie, the person running that account, but they also didn't mention that it's not a statement from the developer but their own convoluted and stretched interpretation of what the developer actually revealed.... back in 2023.

[sudden steeple]

Discovery speed will depend heavily on how fast we can travel around the globe.

Let's consider dragon riding as the fastest, I have a hard time deciding if the dragon flight speed in the trailer is accelerated or not. If it is not, it will be faster than the average biplane.

[errant horizon]

Ahh thanks for the clarification- I didn’t mean to post any misinformation 👍

[opaque citrus]

I can see modders flying with spaceship speed on day 1 tho.

[sudden steeple]

Or difficulty peaceful players going way faster than others

[opaque citrus]

Imo if there will be difficulty options in lnf there will be no speed change option . But maybe something like mounts dont get tired or something.

[polar nymph]

on a related note, some insane guy is probably going to try walking around the globe when light no fire releases and i am excited to see that happen

[sudden steeple]

Even without any endurance or speed change if you can make all fights easier you will be able to travel faster and discover hotspots faster too

[hushed latch]

Probably not day 1. Probably worth it to get speed or stamina upgrades if either exist.

[polar nymph]

yeah obviously not day 1. i bet whoever it is will do that and complete the main story before beginning his journey

[thick arrow]

still this game is gonna be awesome

the hopium is killing me

[hidden island]

we really need a new trailer lol

or a release date

but sean learned from the nms launch i think to wait for overhyping...cant blame him

[thick arrow]

yeah as much as we want it Sean is probably a bit traumatized from the whole "death threats because the game didnt live up to the hype" thing

[hidden island]

i mean, i would be. Totally valid

good thing we all trust him fully now, right!

[sudden steeple]

At least we know there will be canyons.
Canyons are really rare in video games.

[thick arrow]

Wait was that in the trailer?

Sweetttttttt

[sudden steeple]

No, it is there :
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/275850/view/3889484725164330667?l=english

[cold cypress]

I really hope Hello Games continue investing in both games, NMS and LNF, even after LNF launch. Im really hyped but I want to believe that LNF is coming to improve both games and bring more and better multiplayer mechanics for NMS too

[hushed latch]

I believe this was the plan!

[cold cypress]

Hope so 🙏 🙏 NMS has still a huge potential and a brilliant future ahead

[thick arrow]

oh nice i have never seen this info before like i have seen the trailer and steam description but this old post actually mentions a bit more

This world gen is going to be incredible

and "a single world we are going to let everyone play on together" gives me more hope that this could, actually maybe possible probably not but hopefully, be a MMO

[sudden steeple]

The first text to appear in the trailer is "a multiplayer earth".
We can hope

[thick arrow]

Yeah but until i read the post above that was all i was going on

Now i have two things to suggest it

[hidden island]

nms can be a perennial labor of love award contender for a while still

imo

lots they could still add, and a proven track record now

[strong silo]

Are they handmaking most of the LNF world or will it use a seed like NMS?

[forest trench]

most likely procgen

[sudden steeple]

It is earth sized so procedural by necessity

[strong silo]

And will there be a sky limit or can you go into low earth orbit, because that would be cool. Doubt it will have the tech to do that though, since it looks like it's medieval style setting.

[winged dragon]

I want to be able to make a space station

[hidden island]

im assuming tech approximately the same as breathe of the wild, based on what we have seen so far (which is very little). Might as well keep the scifi game scifi and the fantasy game fantasy I guess.

[remote cradle]

What if you can have an orbital dragon

[strong silo]

Wish I could put the Einstein and Tesla gif rn

[sullen hazel]

yo guys what’s light no fire about

i fuckin love nms and i think ima buy light no fire too

idk what it’s abt tho

[sand wasp]

https://youtu.be/jKQem4Z6ioQ

This is what we know, which isn't much

[sullen hazel]

thanks bro!

[uneven heath]

Is it wrong to assume that most or some of the most recent updates in NMS, like xeno arena are testing grounds for features in Light no Fire?

[cinder notch]

Nope

[hushed latch]

I believe this is confirmed.

[opaque citrus]

Both games use same engine. So nms was testing ground for lnf since day 1. And if they make lnf stuff that would be also cool in nms , then can do it in nms too.

[thick arrow]

They have completely confirmed this i think

[uneven heath]

Exactly what I was hoping for. Makes LNF better from day 0 🍻

[hushed latch]

100% I'm just hoping that it doesn't have the opposite issue to some games in which it lacks content - but it has too much, making people feel lost. No Mans Sky already has quite a bit of content I don't touch because it feels like a lot more than I can get into right now. Light No Fire will be totally new to everyone - and hence might amplify the issue.

[surreal kernel]

wild theory: LNF was announced on the 10th aniversiary of NMS' announcement... with the 10th aniversiery of NMS' launch coming up, my suspicion is that will be the date of LNF's launch.

[hollow leaf]

luhnuhfuh

lnf

[hushed latch]

Getting to 10 years is kinda monumental for a game. While not out of the question it would take away from the game that needs to be celebrated.

[thick arrow]

Its a good theory but it just wouldnt be worth it

my money is on the summer games fest

[hidden island]

what date is that?

[thick arrow]

mid august i think

[surreal kernel]

Yep

[remote cradle]

What do you think happens if you light a fire in light no fire, do you get banned or something?

Bad joke I know

[surreal kernel]

I imagine there would be consequences

Lotr style

PUT OUT THE FIRE YOU FOOLS!

[crystal willow]

THE BEACONS ARE LIT!

[empty bloom]

I think it will have some actual significance

[thick arrow]

Hopefully

Im kinda curious about the “you arent the hero” part

Because like that doesnt really feel like “not the main character”

Feels more significant

[empty bloom]

Well, if we are inhabitants of this world, I think it is the aftermath of a "theft of fire" type myth

[hushed latch]

This is intriguing, because I feel like few other games do this.

I mean even NMS kinda does have you be the Hero.

[thick arrow]

Exactly like i feel like its more then just "You are a guy who has adventures" and more of "You actively arent the hero"

[sudden steeple]

The best ones do this. A world that will progress regardless if you fail or succeed in a quest. The Witcher 3 is an excellent example.

And it is almost unrealistic in a procedural world.

[thick arrow]

Almost unrealistic?

[sudden steeple]

It requires an immersive world where everything works properly even without you and you as a player feel just similar to what is around you. In a procedural world it would mean the whole world procedurally generated with this level of quality (and for lnf on a scale never seen before). I would love it, but it is indeed almost impossible.

[thick arrow]

Makes sense

[hushed latch]

Generally true. I trust Sean though. Few companies I do truly trust but I do trust him.

[errant sleet]

I mean, to Theory Craft a bit... I'm betting the Light No Fire part of the mythos is more to the tune of if you light a hearthfire, you're declaring you intend to stay at this point, and thus you're going to draw hostile mobs trying to wreck your home.

aka it's simpler while you're being a Nomad

see also the double-edge of lighting even a torch in a generally dark world - you see more things, but the counterpoint is Everything can see You.

[civic oyster]

Any news about LNF after two or three years? It's been radio silence since the announcement on my end

[balmy elk]

We need to start playing this game now

[sudden steeple]

Some news from the NMS updates.

• LNF will have modular sea ships structures, similar to the Corvettes in NMS.

• progress on the game is proceeding as planned

[lofty fog]

Hopefully we get a little bit of news on the 10th anniversary of nms 🙏

[torpid wind]

I mean let’s be honest, we would rather have them take long and make a good game than rush development just for it to flop

[sudden steeple]

I am not concerned about it being a bad game. I am more concerned about LNF being a boring game at launch

[lofty fog]

Oh yeah, of course. I want it to be good too. By news, I was thinking maybe a 2nd trailer

[thick arrow]

I'm hoping for something more at the summer games fest since they slightly teased LNF at the game awards with that t-shirt

[hidden island]

the hope is that they wait to release a fully polished game, rather than needing to update the game for 5 years before it becomes praised for being a good game

oddly specific reference ik

[civic oyster]

Long term would pay off the most. So I'm sure it'll be great!

[foggy glen]

Light yes fire

[hushed latch]

But. But. We Light No Fire here. Lighting Yes Fire is bad.

[crystal willow]

[remote cradle]

No dude your gonna burn this chat down

[jaunty haven]

wonder when its gonna come out

[crystal willow]

Don't we all

[cinder pilot]

when its done

[hushed latch]

This is the good response.

[hidden island]

Has anyone here played crimson desert?

I wonder how similar LNF will be to that game

and if there are things LNF can learn from it

[thick arrow]

I havent yet but i was thinking it looked like a good substitute to tide me over until LNF comes out

Probably get it when its finally on sale

[hidden island]

I hope light no fire is out by the time crimson desert goes on sale. With how good the initial sales were I think it would probably be like a year

[thick arrow]

True

[cinder notch]

if it's all one planet then
no procedural generation
or at least
single deployment procedure generation

[verbal whale]

Personally it has me incredibly excited, it looks fantastic just from what ive seen so far

[languid orbit]

I would like to be excited but what has it been 2 years with not a single update on the games progress?

[dusky arrow]

I'd just be happy with a game one can larp in

[hushed latch]

This is a good thing. It means instead of dedicating resources to telling us about LNF they are dedicating resources to making LNF. Also Aero did something similar and we heard almost nothing for over a year. Then they dropped it. Fantastic weekend.

[sudden steeple]

We got two updates about the game from Sean Murray :

• the game development progress as planned
• the game will include modular sea ships

[empty bloom]

Ngl I kinda hope lnf has immersive tasks that you can do to feel like somebody in that world just living their life

[thick arrow]

That would be sick if you could lowkey just chill and build a life without any need to progress but still being able to

[hidden island]

Is there a chance this skyscraper thing is related to light no fire? As someone totally out of the loop here ...

[crystal willow]

It's not impossible, but so far nothing to suggest it.

[thick arrow]

What skyscraper thing?

[hidden island]

thanks

[hidden island]

#project-skyscraper , I know next to nothing about it beside it potentially being a Hello Games teaser for new content in NMS

[lilac urchin]

I guess you could say the only two "solid-ish" connections that could be made at present are the tagline "Sky is not the limit" as in to go beyond it NMS to something new (but that's pretty reaching), and that the in-house game engine is called Skycraper

[hidden island]

the skyscraper game engine is for both nms and lnf?

interesting

[lilac urchin]

It would be odd for them to not use it

[thick arrow]

Only thing is Project Skyscraper is entirely fanmade frkm the looks of it

[sudden steeple]

Except that apparently the previous ARG was indeed Hello Games hiring professionals to make it.

[thick arrow]

Oh sick

Who knows then

i didnt even know about the ARGs

[sullen scarab]

Is there a release date for LNF?

[thick arrow]

NO

[hushed latch]

Sometime between now and the heat death of the universe.

[proven dagger]

So anyway for me to start playing LNF sooner than later. ?

A shadow drop tonight would be awesome!

[sudden steeple]

Done.

S H A D O W
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
IIIIIIIIIIIIII
▼▼▼

My own guess is Summer Game Fest for the announcement and the 10 years for the release.

[thick arrow]

Of course

[thick arrow]

I dont think the release will be the 10th anniversary i think it will either have a very short release window because they want to be as fjmished as possible or in the New Year/Christmas time because they want to avoid the tenth anniversary

It just doesnt make sense to spoil such an important milestone of specifically No Mans Sky(not Hello Games) with a new game

At most, if the game isnt out before then, id expect a small mention maybe at max a trailer but i doubt the whole event for NMS will focus around LNF

[sudden steeple]

What do you expect for the NMS 10 year anniversary in this case ?

[hidden island]

this would be epic...I can see hello games delaying though depending on nms updates

since I would also assume there is a nms update due around then, and they will probably want to do somethign for the anniversary

[thick arrow]

Not really sure probably a slideshow of every update, and a massive update to the game

Idk just LNF feels unlikely to me

[sudden steeple]

It would for me too if Hello Games didn't celebrate the 10 years of the NMS trailer by releasing the LNF trailer.

[hushed latch]

I mean, making it to 10 years with updates is huge for a game. Most die after about the same amount of time.

Taking away from that with a new game would be a little... odd.

[thick arrow]

True i suppose if they were to look at it as a sequel and not simply another game in the same vein they might be more open to making it a part of the NMS celebrations

[patent moth]

Wasn't Light No Fire scheduled for late 2026? or am I misinformed?

[crystal willow]

Not sure where you got that from but nothing was announced in any way

Trailer dropped in December 2023 and since then nothing beyond "we are still working on it"

[patent moth]

its time for a new trailer or sth else

[crystal willow]

[thick arrow]

Might be thinking of Fable

Which also looks like a great game that’s similar to LNF

[thick arrow]

interesting that the NMS sale ends on June 8th which happens to be the last day of the Summer Games Fest

wish that 🐝 meant LNF

[balmy elk]

We need this game asap

[true harness]

Dude, so much hype for this without basically a peep from HG, while other games spend some absurd amount of money on marketing to hit mid sales. I love HG for just being all "You keep doing what you do, we are gonna keep doin what we do, and when it happens, it happens."

[hushed latch]

This is the benefit of having a wildly successful first game. Silksong did the same thing from what I hear and that game crashed every single game store.

[true harness]

The one scenario that (while frustrating) crashing stores and launches is acceptable lol

[hidden island]

the real qestion for me is if lnf will be $60-$70 at launch

if its $30, I can see people rushing to get it like silksong, but the price is a consideration too

and admittedly, HG has...history with not amazing launches

though the upkeep is second to none

[sudden steeple]

With ONE not amazing launch

[hidden island]

true...but it was their (former) most hyped

unfortunately...

[sudden steeple]

The previous one before NMS was just a little bit more than a flash game...

[deft moth]

Do we know if NMS is used as a “testing ground” for LNF?

[thick arrow]

Its literally the TRUE most wishlisted game on steam

Technically the most wishlisted game is some valve game that is invite only

[lyric hound]

light no fire will have like boss battles right

like this

so cool

[thick arrow]

Id pay $120 for a cheap figurine and art book just so i can make Hello Games take more of my money lol

[thick arrow]

Completely confirmed for quite a while

Like i think they said worlds was for terrain in LNF and Voyagers was for Boats jn LNF

[thick arrow]

No clue

Maybe not since “we are not the hero”

[hollow moss]

I wonder, will LNF have day/night variations based on equinoxes, solstices and seasons? knowing the current tech no, but there's always a chance to see something be improved upon.

[hidden island]

Real

[hushed latch]

I mean… it could.

Why wouldn’t it?

[hushed latch]

I mean if it is I will personally just wait for a sale. If it’s 30-40 I might wait for reviews. Anything below that and I would probably buy it outright if I could at the time.

[hidden island]

seasons would be well within the scope of the game for sure

and think like equinoxes could be events (take notes HG lol)

[sudden steeple]

They could. It is not really hard to implement and they did way harder on the early days of NMS (stars in the sky were the real stars visible in your galaxy map in their right positions)

[lyric hound]

i really hope they do a thing where you can craft with lots of different materials of the same type

so like a species of tree in one place has a certain type of wood

which is different to a tree in another place

and both woods can be used to craft items but the items will have different stats based on the attributes of the wood

for example one might be slightly more durable (very small difference)

but there would be very rare types of wood where it significantly boosts the stats or acts like an enchantment or smth

[thick arrow]

That actually sounds like such a cool feature but i suppose in space it was simply to confusing

but who knows it might be easier and feel more realistic with LNF

[exotic nexus]

I really would prefer base fantasy races like dwarf, elves or orks in light no fire rather than variation's of furry

[hushed latch]

I won’t disagree with you, as I would prefer the base fantasy races, but I think having the sentient animals on the side is fine.

[hidden island]

nms has pretty elite character creation and customization

all for free

so I am optimistic lnf will have sufficient options

[sudden steeple]

???
NMS character creation and customization is root, below 90% of any modern RPG.

It is not one of the main selling points in my opinion anyway as there are excellent games with no character customization but it is expected in a RPG.

[hidden island]

Between the many armor sets and alien race customization, I've seen people who are dressed as pretty much every sci-fi space character you can think of.

Elite is probably overselling it but it's above average for sure

[sudden steeple]

It depends how much you want the player to identify to his character. You will feel much more immersed if you can't change your character's major characteristics after the creation ends.
In NMS you can change whenever you want and you are restricted between a set of heads you can't customize further. It shows it is not an important feature of the game.

[remote cradle]

I disagree, if not changing your character makes you more immersed than just don't change your character

[neon vault]

When LNF releases, I will go against the game's very name and commit an arson

[sand wasp]

No, Man

[winged dragon]

When LNF releases, I will head east until I get back to where I started

[crystal willow]

When LNF releases I will play that game instead of committing crimes

[sudden steeple]

Same but I will start very close to the South Pole so it will be quick

[wispy pike]

When LNF releases I will fire no light

[thick arrow]

Imagine jf they made it possible to dig a tunnel to the centre of the planet

It would be HIGHLY unlikely

But if it was possible there could be a giant hub city st the centre kf the world

[hushed latch]

When LNF releases I will probably wait a few weeks to buy it because I wait for sales or extremely positive reviews.

😔

[thick arrow]

I feel pretty certain it will be good because hello games has learned their lesson the hard way and wont be releasing a half finished game

And their trsck record is pretty good jd you look st the quality of nms updates

[hushed latch]

Fair.

[hybrid rampart]

I hope i remember the backlash from prepurchasers after the game initially release 😓

[cinder notch]

When LNF releases I will have been dead ten years

[thick arrow]

Appearently they even got sent death threats for not releaseing it as a polished game

Some people are nuts

[hybrid rampart]

DAMN WTF

i just remember the game damn near flopping to non existence because of failed promises T-T

[boreal snow]

The next update for NMS is LNF. You will login and NMS will no longer exist, completely replaced

This is satire