light-no-fire

[solar sequoia]

light no fire sickkkkkk

[empty bloom]

It resembles a singular for Atlantides, aka the Hesperides, the daughters of the Titans Atlas and Hesperia

[dusk hatch]

Poor Telamon left in the cold

[empty bloom]

I gotta learn more about the name, lol

My only other reference to "Telamon" is the wheel of time, and idk whether thats an intended reference, lol

[dusk hatch]

There's obv the greek mythology, but nothing in there features the Titans with respect to Telamon. A loose consideration might be that Telamon was a friend of the son of the gods that imprisoned the titans

Incidentally, as it relates to LNF, Prometheus was a Titan who stole fire for humanity.

In NMS, Atlas was the Titan cursed with holding up the sky.

Will Prometheus be the new Atlas of LNF?

[empty bloom]

That would be my guess

WAIT A MOMENT

Telamon is an architectural term

Synonymous with atlas and atlantids

[left needle]

i wonder if crime is gonna be a thing

can i grief in lnf

or can i kill gods

[empty bloom]

Probably depends on what is classified as a god

[left needle]

you right

ngl

my guess is its gonna be something like the atlas

where its just a big thing

[empty bloom]

That would not be killable

[left needle]

ik :/

its all speculation at this point with lnf

hopefully it comes soon

[empty bloom]

Id like some more news, at least

[left needle]

yh

[dusk hatch]

I hope there's melee combat with a parry system

[left needle]

That'd be cool

[sudden steeple]

I hope there is real difficulty, making it worthwhile to play coop or to have enough skills when playing solo

[thick arrow]

Hopefully

Can’t believe they added a new expedition and 3 reruns literally a day after breach ended

That’s crazy and I really hope that means they are prepping for something big

Expeditions keep getting closer together and I hope that means they plan to announce LNF at the game awards

[jaunty lake]

Not to FUD on your parade but why would more frequent expeditions mean that they’re gonna announce LNF

[void palm]

”Expeditions keep getting closer together”
I’m assuming you weren’t here last year

We had over a year of almost constant expeditions with only about a week or two break between most of them

And reduxes are always this tightly packed

[empty bloom]

New expedition?

[maiden pecan]

Remixed Expeditions
Beachhead (2): 7th Nov - 18th Nov
Titan (17): 19th Nov - 2nd Dec
Relics (18): 3rd Dec - 16th Dec
Corvette (19): 17th Dec - 30th Dec
Breach (20): 31st Dec - 13th Jan

[empty bloom]

Mainly seeing whether they know that beachhead is an old expedition, since I actually encountered someone in the expedition last night who thought the 2 was a typo of 21

[thick arrow]

Yeah I am new to No Mans sky

[thick arrow]

Rereading this I realize that there wasn’t much logic too it

[jaunty lake]

it’s weird, as someone who has been on the NMS train since 2015, to see how many people have joined the community since then

like what do you mean you don’t remember the first expedition

[coarse fractal]

Every year there's a rerun of the year's expeditions as well as an older expedition (in this case, Expedition II)

[thick arrow]

Nice

[latent remnant]

so exited for LNF

[coarse fractal]

same here

[tawny shale]

Light no fire as coming 2986

[left needle]

light no fire coming in NMS ly 3571

[arctic fulcrum]

Do we know on what platforms Light No Fire will be available?

[arctic river]

Don’t they have the icons for all the consoles on the promos?

[tranquil gust]

The only thing I want lnf to have are hats and boats

[cedar ridge]

Is there a offical release date for light no fire?

[tranquil gust]

Nope

[left needle]

uh

universal century 129

[fallen rock]

Yes, 2050

[thick arrow]

I think you guys are being to optimistic

[dense token]

Which comes first, lnf or gta6

[left needle]

gta5 remaster

or skyrim remaster

[sudden steeple]

We will definitely get the game or at least some news on NMS 10th anniversary date

[opaque citrus]

At least new trailer on TGA

I dont need release date. Just show me new cool things and game development progress

[left needle]

fr

i hope they add melee combat

[proven stirrup]

i love the bunnies i cant wait

[urban maple]

is there an end to the lnf planet? if its a planet its round right so it should loop back around

but its also infinite i believe

[crystal willow]

Infinite?

From what we were told world of Light No Fire will be as large as the planet Earth. That's a rather finite size

Huge, but not infinite

Man, all this time we assumed it will be spherical

But what if they go with flat fantasy world?
Nvm, press kit says planet

Set on a fantasy planet the size of Earth

[urban maple]

so the procedural generation will eventually end once people have been everywhere?

[crystal willow]

Assuming it works like NMS, then yeah. It

World is not genereted like in some other games. It is generated on the go by an algorithm using predetermined seeds amd after you leave it's gone and generated again after you come back.

NMS universe isn't infinite either, it's just really large. It will likely take a lot of time to explore LNF world in its entirety too.

[urban maple]

wait so the generation will change in the same place if you go there at different times?

[crystal willow]

Essentially NMS and LNF, bc it uses the same engine, worlds are already fully created bc they have seeds, players just discover what those seeds result in

[crystal willow]

When you go to a planet in NMS and you land the planet is generated.

After you leave the system the planet isn't saved anywhere, after it is unloaded it's gone.

When you comeback the same algorithm will use the same seed to generate a planet and as such it will be the same planet

[urban maple]

oh ok nvm i see what you mean

[crystal willow]

Seed the planet uses was determined before you came

And we expect LNF world will work in a similar way

[urban maple]

i mean nms is, for all intents and purposes, infinite, which makes sense because its many many galaxies but lnf is just a single planet so i feel like it would make sense if millions of players explored its entirety within like a year or so

[crystal willow]

Some time ago I did some math here and from what I got planet Earth, and LNF world, should have around 150 times more surface area then NMS gas giants

We also won't have spaceships to take us around at extremely high speeds.

We can also assume light no fire world will be populated with things to do and obstacles in form of mountains or bodies of water

And no one said the world would not be bigger than the Earth in some capacity.

The material we have so far only states that the planet will be the size of Earth. For all we know, it might have its own form of different galaxies or other places to see beyond just the surface.

[urban maple]

still though it might not be a year but in at most a lifetime it will probably be explored fully unlike nms if its just open exploration at that size

[crystal willow]

Then let's hope LNF world is more densely populated with cool things to do and see

Bc surface area isn't really all it's about

Microsoft flight sim already did planet Earth

So it's not like just having a huge map would be that impressive

[empty bloom]

I dont think lnf is gonna have millions of players at launch, and even if it did, I think it would take much longer to explore a planet in its entirety, especially considering we really havent done that with earth, just mapped it

I do hope that there will be a reason to travel across long distances in lnf, especially since it will be a lot more effort to do so

[urban maple]

isnt everyone technically on the same seed in lnf cuz the whole planet is connected

[empty bloom]

Probably, though since it is a single planet, I'm not sure whether the proc gen will be stored differently

Something I hope for is more persistent effects on the world than we tend to have in nms

Specifically, it would be neat to encounter ruins that arent generated procedurally, but are instead the remains of a player's base they have long-since abandoned

[urban maple]

that would be really cool, i wonder if we'll be able to build supermassive cities eventually

[cedar ether]

I wanna build a sea vessel

Like a big Corvette but for the oceans

[empty bloom]

That's what corvettes are testing

[cedar ether]

That's the most beautiful thing I've heard all day

[left needle]

PEAK!

[civic oyster]

Gta6 before light no fire?

[weary condor]

I feel like this game is never coming out

[warped hinge]

[urban maple]

prob not

[opaque citrus]

Light no fire before gta 6.

If rumors are true we will get half life 3 before gta6

[sand wasp]

No half life 3, they have given up and converted to console manufacturers

[polar nymph]

istg the INSTANT this game comes out i'm getting a ship and blasting mastodon

[pastel cedar]

I'm going to light a fire

[polar nymph]

we will be lighting no fires here boy

[pastel cedar]

But I want to do something illegal and light fires

[coarse fractal]

Sir that's called arson

[pastel cedar]

arson....what naaahhhhh I just like setting things on fire

[left gale]

I want to play this game so bad

[empty bloom]

No Man's Sky: Prometheus

[left needle]

I THINK THAT SOMEONE IS TRYING TO KILL ME!

(song continues and then a white whale holy grail appears)

[velvet spindle]

I know you guys probably won't know but will they stop updating NMS after they release LNF?

[void palm]

Probably not, they’ve been developing LNF parallel to nms getting updates for several years

[sleek summit]

so hyped for this game definitely getting my vote for the game of the year if it drops in 2026, light no fire over gta vi any time cz we all know its gonna be bad

[left needle]

Yh

[tulip vortex]

What comes after LNF? Whatever it is the N has to come in at the end.

[left needle]

We've got Nms and lNf

Next is wtN

Water the night

[void palm]

No no, Water the no

It has to be a no

[left needle]

You right

[opaque citrus]

"Dont Say No "

[velvet spindle]

Glad to know they will most likely keep updating it

[balmy canopy]

I'm planning on setting sail with friends and finding a good island to set up a fortress town on

[thick sluice]

Please Say No, or PSN for shor.... wait a minute

[fallen rock]

No Way Home

[void palm]

But then the no is first
We need a no last this time
No Man’s Sky
Light No Fire
XXX YYY No has to come next

[fallen rock]

Home? Way No.

[velvet spindle]

Man's stew no

[left needle]

Fire light no

[sand wasp]

Have Water? No

[thick arrow]

ooh that one is good but doesnt it also beyond having no at the end need something like sky or fire? And three words is obvious

[thick arrow]

this one could work

[thick sluice]

Water water no

[sick forum]

"Snow? Heck no!" - Stuck in a procedurally generated world as big as a snow globe, you try to attract the attention of the cat, so she pushes it off the ledge and frees you.

"Oops... oh no" - Randomized proc gen has rendered the planet untraversable, and even worse, its colours clash. Can you solve cute puzzles to set proper values and form the planet to your liking?

[safe orchid]

There's already a Dune game, though.

[polar nymph]

jesus says no

isn't there someone you forgot to ask?

[proud osprey]

Colors*

[velvet spindle]

Different areas/people say colour differently

[proud osprey]

Yes I know I'm joking

Just how the feinds of the east spell tires tyres, and call asphalt tarmack (this is also a joke)

[left gale]

Second trailer December 11 at the game awards?

[mossy canyon]

LNF LEAK!!!!! :

Light no fire will NOT be released on the Nintendo wii

[void palm]

Awwwww damn! I was hoping for that

[left needle]

What about the tamagochi

[sudden steeple]

LNF Tamagotchi is the LNF server itself. Grim will give you a daily reminder of the game's current situation and what is expected of you (obviously waiting furthermore)

[coarse fractal]

Is it gonna be available on a Samsung oven? Or at least through an emulator

[gritty cliff]

Prob be able to play it on the Samsung refrigerator.

[mossy canyon]

It's not going to be released on the Samsung oven BUT from some leaks there will possibly be a Samsung smart fridge exclusive version (although this has not been confirmed)

[coarse fractal]

Shucks... Samsung getting greedy with those new devices eh?
-#

[foggy geyser]

We still missing two elements…

Earth air wind fire

We have the air If sky counts, and fire but no light… So earth and wind

[left needle]

Do you remember the 21st night of September?

[foggy geyser]

Water. Earth. Fire. Air. Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony.

[wind olive]

Guys imagine. GabeN walks up on stage at the game awards holds up three fingers Triage at dawn plays Half Life 3s logo is shown the crowd goes wild Geoff Keighley gets a heart attack on stage.

Then Shawn walks up on stage kissies GabeN on the cheek. He blushes and gives him the microphone and all he says "Light No Fire, out now" the crowd errups in a roar of applause Geoffs heart spontaneously restarts as world peace has been announced

So anyway that is my prediction for the Game Awards this year

[left needle]

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/survival/well-darn-hello-games-sean-murray-says-the-team-working-on-no-mans-sky-follow-up-light-no-fire-is-tiny-and-working-in-the-background/

Saw this a bit ago

[rugged forge]

Then everything changed when the fire nation attacked

[void palm]

Games radar slop, HG won’t ever have a big team working on something, they don’t have a big enough company for that, they also won’t be working in the foreground because that would open them up to another NMS launch disaster

We pretty much already knew that

[mighty wolf]

I agree

[marsh epoch]

Peak fanfic

Also Yall

I think I found almost every race in the game

Rabbit

Human

Skeleton

Demon

That’s just my prediction tho

If they have autophage like cloaks like the returners drape in this game I’m def playing skeleton plus that

[weary condor]

One can dream

[weary condor]

I can't find demon
Do you maybe have a screenshot

[marsh epoch]

No but I was wrong about that

I meant deer

I’m sleep deprived rn

[void palm]

Foxes are in the trailer

[marsh epoch]

Oh

Are they npcs or actual characters

[void palm]

Iirc it’s in the scene where 4 people are walking up to the giant knowledge bro

But basically, we can’t know
My guess would be player

[marsh epoch]

That makes sense

Also how do yall think fast travel might work

Obv in NMS we have portals and teleporters

[left needle]

Teleport soup

Always random

[crimson furnace]

Has there been an estimate for the release date?

[void palm]

Nope

We literally only have the first trailer and some hints based on what’s been released to NMS

[crimson furnace]

Dang, alright. Thank you

[gloomy verge]

My theory is they will release it in August of 2026, it’s the 10th anniversary of NMS

[orchid lynx]

for that they would have to start hyping already

but i guess they rather be safe than sorry

[coarse fractal]

Just so they don't pull a GTA 6

"Here's the release date!"
"Delayed, here's the release date!"
"Delayed, here's the release date!"
"Delayed, here's the release date!"
"Delayed, here's the release date!"
"Delayed, here's the release da- oh well everyone died of old age"

[opaque citrus]

"Anyways, here is a new trailer and release date"

[wind olive]

Wouldnt surprise me if there will be no release day just one day the trailer drops along with the game. I mean considering how little Hello Games tells us about NMS updates i could see that happening

[restive trellis]

I’m new to server what is light no fire

[crystal willow]

Next game hello games, developers of NMS, are working on
https://www.lightnofire.com/

[restive trellis]

Cool! What is it about?

[crystal willow]

Light No Fire is a game about adventure, building, survival and exploration together. Set on a fantasy planet the size of Earth, it brings the depth of a role playing game to the freedom of a survival sandbox.
https://lightnofire.com/press

We don't know much, that's pretty much it

[restive trellis]

Oh

Ok

Thanks!

[dense token]

I think of Skyrim. You can fast travel(basically teleport) but time passes according to the distance so in game it took you time to get there. Don’t know if that could work in a multiplayer setting tho

[marsh epoch]

That’s a good idea!

My theory is it would be a portal thing also, because they can be tied to both sci fi and a mythical setting. It would probably be a bit harder tho

[deft lagoon]

big bird, takes you away

[sudden steeple]

No fast travel except between capitals. Fastest "normal" transportation are dragons

[sand wasp]

Magic ofc

[gloomy verge]

I’ve already seen ads for it on social media

[orchid lynx]

one can hope :)

[empty bloom]

I honestly would prefer no fast travel in general

I've played games where players can explore and settle and make communities, and fast travel makes it feel less like an interconnected world and more like each place is its own mini world

[coarse fractal]

So like really give it a huge world aspect, where you can setup waypoints then go out and travel from one place to another to like make it an actual journey?

[empty bloom]

Yeah

And for things like cities or player towns and such, they could have a beacon or something marking them that can be seen from a distance

[left gale]

my only problem for this would be that I want to meet up with my friends

if they can implement another solution or make fast travel really really expensive, I would be super happy with it

[sudden steeple]

It could be only between capitals you have already visited, but I agree it would prevent part of the exploration feeling

[sudden steeple]

A solution for that would be either to allow the selection of your start spawn or to spawn players based on their location irl

[short beacon]

I'm so hyped for this game, even though there's not much information at the moment.

I just imagine the possibilities.

[coarse fractal]

Speaking of capitals, how do you think major hub systems will work
Will there be a few big prebuilt cities, or will it be up to the community to build them?

[left needle]

idk

prolly community

[tepid jacinth]

I think they'll have to implement fast travel in some way or another. If the map is the size of the Earth, maybe they will implement a system where you can fast travel along the graticule.

Similar to no man's sky, I expect that each person will spawn off on their own and you'll have to get to a certain place in the game before you can fast travel. Like how collecting the glyphs in NMS is such a pain but once you have them all, you are rewarded by being able to travel to key places and collect specialized resources.

[left needle]

the fast travel is gonna be you running for like

10000000 hours

[sudden steeple]

I would prefer to be able to choose my spawn point or even better to have a spawn point related to my location irl. It would allow me to meet players close to me or to set on an expedition to reach foreign friends 🙂

[tepid jacinth]

It would be cool if they implemented something like that, but I doubt the continents will be set up like Earths.

My original thought was that they may create a system to fast travel to points on the planet where the longitude and latitude lines intersect, so even if you fast travel to a friend, you'd still have to travel pretty far before reaching them, but not 40+ hours, more like 30 mins or so

NMS has a decent fast travel system with each planet having a unique code. So you can fast travel to friends pretty easily. It only takes a couple of minutes.

I would assume they'd want to maintain that level of "ease of travel", but I doubt it's as convenient. Like only one planet in the star system having a portal rather than all of them.

[thick arrow]

honestly no one wants to walk forever but what if they legitmately just didnt add it. It could be what makes or breaks the game. i doubt it would ever happen but having to walk forever to find your friends would be kinda cool like the farlands in older versions of minecraft.

[left gale]

If fast travel is possible I want it to be really hard to do, not even just hard to unlock but require a ton of resources every time

I wouldn't mind fast traveling between certain set points though, as long as they're really rare, like less than 100 total

That would also make communities spring up naturally, as most players would want to be close to a portal

[crystal willow]

Maybe one day there will be a very immersive hardcore Life-Sim Survival Crafter game with RPG elements with zero fast travel where traveling far away is not only a matter of getting there but surviving the hardships of a journey it takes to reach your destination... But it won't be Light no Fire

For "no fast travel" or "very costly/difficult fast travel" to make sense traveling between 2 points has to be engaging and fun. Great developers can make fast travel between the same two point to be fun more than once but there will always be point where no fast travel over longer distance gets just tedious. Limited fast travel, for example between fixed locations, has to be well thought out. Think of different points of fast travel in Morrowind VS Carriages in Skyrim.

There is also fact that a lot of people romanticises traveling. In real life? Sure, it's fun. In a video game after novelty wears off you are no longer traveling, you are staring at a panel of light emitting diodes while feeling like developer doesn't respect your time.

Hello Games makes casual games, I see no reason why they wouldn't make fast travel easily accessible and limited maybe only by what you discovered, where you built whatever the cheap thing will be to allow teleportation.

Alternatively no fast travel would make sense if we could easily reach points of interest without it. Some games have big maps but offer faster modes of transport, some have just smaller maps, both handcrafted with player exploring them in mind. Light No Fire aims to have procedurally generated map at least as big as our real life planet

And it also aims to be a game you can easily enjoy with friends so traveling for days for a meet up is not something you will have to do

[empty bloom]

My opinion on it comes from my experience trying to play things like towny servers in Minecraft. For pretty much everything youre just teleporting places, and theres no network or anything to indicate where things are

A town right next to yours feels the same as a town on the other side of the map, because the effort to get there is the same

[empty bloom]

For an exploration game the size of earth, I just want traveling places to have meaning to it

I think a system where players can activate some sort of beacon, and those beacons can be used for fast travel, but only to places other players have been, or they'd only have a limit

Like maybe theres beacons, but they only fast travel within a region

[sudden steeple]

For an exploration game with a survival element you want the players to enjoy the thrill of exploring. Take Minecraft as a basis. It has a vast procedural world and no fast travel so you must plot an expedition to gather rare resources.

For appealing to both kinds of players you want the possibility of staying close to your start points and enjoy the game up to a mid level of progression while rewarding those taking risks by venturing farther.

[empty bloom]

Its my experiences on Minecraft servers that bypass this element of exploration that makes me want to avoid easy fast travel

[thick arrow]

yeah that would be nice. too easy fast travel will ruin the game i feel

maybe also like you have to complete a little quest to unlock each fixed fast travel point and once you do you can fast travel but it costs something even if its just something like diamonds in minecraft, not hard to get but semi rare so you want to avoid using them unless its worth it. One "diamond" per fast travel is a) not too early game and not too late game and b) makes slow travel actually worth it occasionally, so you arent mostly done with boats and dragons after the first few hours

[left gale]

I like that thought!

I'm a huge proponent of fast travel is lazy design, but with any MMO there also has to be concessions so we're not outright punished for wanting to play with friends

[sudden steeple]

Just allow to choose your spawn point and playing with friends is not an issue anymore even without fast travel

[left gale]

but what if (And this will probably be an issue for me) you have several groups of friends that don't spawn together?

[empty bloom]

Theres got to be some way to navigate long distance

My hope is for constellations that we can use to navigate

[left gale]

ooh

how would that be implemented?

do you mean just to navigate, not as a type of fast travel?

[empty bloom]

Depends on how realistic theyd go?

[empty bloom]

Yeah

[left gale]

I couldn't imagine the game releasing without a minimap tbh

well actually

NMS doesn't really have one

[empty bloom]

With flying mounts, thats basically a minimap

[left gale]

fair enough

[empty bloom]

But I picture constellations (aka the literal star skymap) as being either fixed or very slowly moving (similar to irl) so that we can use their positions to determine where we are

[left needle]

Community drawn maps?! Could be peak (have that 1500 style map drawing)

[cinder notch]

!news

!releasedate

!wtfsean

[polar nymph]

fun fact: light no fire is NEVER coming out, sean confirms

[void palm]

What promise did they not fulfill?

@cold crypt

[dense token]

They just don’t know how to be patient

[dry gale]

he prolly doesnt know what hes talking about or he was lied to big time buy some idjit

or what calcium said

[dry gale]

wait for them to pull a factorio space age portal ending level navigation system

if you know you know

[left gale]

guys I can't wait for the surprise drop tomorrow after the new trailer and gameplay demo at the game awards

[cinder notch]

!news

!releasedate

[hidden phoenix]

I would literally have to get a change of pants if Hello Games shadow drops LNF lol

[neat plinth]

Free placing swords to make a throne

[void palm]

1. If those commands actually worked, they would probably have been for the server as a whole, and thus NMS

2. We have not received shit for the last 2 years

[rare gust]

really hope they share some new news/gameplay tomorrow at games awards

[cinder notch]

!lnfwhentf

[thick arrow]

Most people probably would

GAME AWARDS TONIGHT

Fngers crossed and rabbits foots rubbed everbody

[dawn heart]

I want to wake up tomorrow and do the first thing - go on HelloGamesTube and watch LNF trailer #2

[thick arrow]

why not watch it live

[opaque citrus]

Not everyone have time for it

For me it starts 1am

[thick arrow]

ouch

yeah it starts at 9 for me so im pretty good

[hidden phoenix]

Luckily I called off work for tomorrow

[thick arrow]

LIGHT NO FIRE TSHIRT

WATCH THE GAME AWARDS

Tho on that note should we wait to spoil announcment?

Or maybe just dont read further because there may be more spoilers beyond tshirt

[craggy finch]

So given that it's possible the logo for LNF is the Atlas, I think this|| could be a universe that comes after NMS. That could explain why it's only one planet. Consolidation lets it simulate a more detailed reality, thus allowing for more races and such.||

More importantly, would this mean you can still be a little gek chud

[void palm]

No mans sky spoilers still need to be spoiler marked here

[lusty panther]

Free game for every no man's sky owner

[thick arrow]

why?

[pastel mica]

The subtleness of this while not mentioning a thing about LNF......perfect.

They are cooking and they know it.

[vast valley]

Its so gas

[uneven shuttle]

I saw this and said “you assholes” then heard Sean was having family issues and felt bad

[empty bloom]

Thats not the Atlas, some community members have been calling it Prometheus

[onyx cave]

i wanna be a red panda

[crystal willow]

I don't want to be

I would like to be nothing

Oh mb, this is LNF chat

[empty bloom]

I want to be a dragon, but I have a feeling that may not be an option in this game

[crystal willow]

:v

One more year guys

And one more after that

When game comes out I will make my character just a dude

Like, a regular guy

[onyx cave]

jeff

[empty bloom]

John guy, human fighter

[crystal willow]

I mean, in RPG video games or in table top DnD there are people who love to play as dragonborn, tieflings or other unusual and fantastic humanoids

I like to be just a guy

[empty bloom]

I'd like to be just a dragon

Not a dragonborn, a full blown dragon

[onyx cave]

croc man

[empty bloom]

I could have a mountain lair where I collect things, and give mysterious riddles to adventurers who pass by

I could soar through the skies and prank people by swooping down at them like I'm gonna attack and turn away

[thick arrow]

i wonder what their plan was if they didn’t win

[short beacon]

Anyone else feel like LNF has been shadow-cancelled? Pretty egregious to say fuck-all about the most-anticipated game in recent history, at a venue that seems ideal for keeping the fires of interest alight…

[thick arrow]

just kinda sit there with their jacket closed all day?

[thick arrow]

The shirt shows it clearly isnt. This is like the first actual light no fire update of any sort since like january

hopefully they will tell us something soln

[short beacon]

This seems stupid. When I was 10 years old, I wanted a Hosoi Skateboards T-shirt for my birthday. I didn’t get one so I made my own with a white undershirt and a sharpie.

I actually wore it in public. People (the teenage skaters) pointed and laughed.

[crystal willow]

If Hello Games wanted to quietly shut down the project they wouldn't show anything that would get peoples hopes up, there would be no sign of it and zero mention of it until people forget about it completely

[short beacon]

John Mann was right there…

[crystal willow]

They wouldn't go in public with the logo on T-shirt for everyone to see and they wouldn't make mentions of it in NMS articles

[short beacon]

I mean, I do agree with you… I’m just feeling salty. Did any other development houses tease upcoming games? I didn’t watch it in its entirety because it was very cringe from the first couple of minutes.

[crystal willow]

Well, teasing games with no release date in sight sin't exactly something never seen before

Cyberpunk 2077 had first teaser in 2013 and then CDPR went silent, no one knows whats up with next TES game

[short beacon]

Wasn’t really my question, but go off, king.

[crystal willow]

Did any other development houses tease upcoming games?

Were you asking about other games shown on TGA? Or about studios teasing games in general?

Bc for other games there is #other-games

[short beacon]

All I’m saying is plenty of other developers updated their progress with anticipated games at TGA but HG stayed mum on LNF. I hates it.

[void palm]

Sean said only a few weeks ago that they have a small team working on it in the background, and that he’s happy with their progress.

[void palm]

Sean, the guy who does almost all of the public speaking for HG wasn’t there
They probably also want to avoid another NMS launch, where they tease the game so much that people get overhyped and then disappointed when the game isn’t what they thought it would be

[thick arrow]

C’mon Christmas shadow drop

Its so likely you could bet on it

Sean practically confirmed it with the tshirt

like yhats ghe most substantial evidence i have ever seem

(joking)

[void palm]

That wasn’t Sean btw

That’s just, other guy who does stuff at hg
Sean couldn’t be there

[opaque citrus]

Same or very simliar shirt sean had on tga when showing trailer first time.

[void palm]

Yeah

[thick arrow]

i know it was sarcasm lol

[thick arrow]

Yeah i doubt it means anything unfortunately

[craggy finch]

Hello Games is probably trepidatious about marketing after NMS’ launch. While I would agree that it would have been a good time to say something about the game, I can understand their choice to be more subtle. The t-shirt in of itself shows the game isn’t cancelled, and I feel wearing it, open jacket, was done on purpose to assure fans that it is indeed still in development

[sand wasp]

They literally just said a month ago they were working on it and pleased with the progress, shirt wasn't needed for that

[toxic plover]

What's the maddening insanity going on with memory hitting the roof? How are the current memory prices going to affect the server design for such a large monumental game where everybody shares the same space.

[pastel coral]

I dont think lnf will have shared world as in everyone playing together

It will probably be something like nms multiplayer

[thick arrow]

That was always more of a dream than something likely to happen

[sudden steeple]

Four weeks ago Sean said their progress on LNF was very good so definitely not cancelled.

[void palm]

This feels like the ”Sean posted a waving emoji, that means support for the game is ending” debacle all over again

[lime lake]

I'm interested to see if community player settlements will develop around a poi like the portals that are in NMS

[half sigil]

Pangalactic Starcabs are already planning on it

[left gale]

if there are a limited number, absolutely

[empty bloom]

Theres a limited number in nms

Its just a really really big limited number

[left gale]

technically true but you know what I mean

you can always count on loremaster aurix to be technically correct lol

[empty bloom]

This is true

I dont know what scale anything like fast travel poi would be for lnf though

[cinder notch]

They will release the game and 3 dlc’s at the same time

[thick arrow]

Honestly with any other game wouldnt even be imaginable

With hello games LNF and 3 dlc wouldnt even be that far out except it just wouldnt make sense due to the nature of their version of dlc

[normal olive]

What games can I play while waiting for LNF

[karmic adder]

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III (remastered [2023])

[normal olive]

I mean games like it

[pallid grove]

Valheim, Medieval Dynasty?

Mmmm

[normal olive]

Ok well I really want to be able to wander a medieval world if that helps

It’s like what I wanna do in no man’s sky when I get the poncho. Settle on a planet and wander.

[thick arrow]

Enshrouded is another good one i have had on my wishlist for a while

seems a lot like valhejm and LNF

[void palm]

We don’t know what LNF will be like, so that would be hard to say

[normal olive]

I imagine it’ll be kinda like no man’s sky but one planet

[thick arrow]

yeah

[tropic patrol]

🔥

[plush cedar]

like a BIG planet... I wonder how long it will take folks to run into one another... or if they are going to use the same lobby style multiplayer model... with local saves... vs a always online persistent world

[normal olive]

I’d hope it’s playable offline

[neat plinth]

Except planets in NMS hardly ever have biomes lol will be interesting to see the pacing and scale from biome to biome.

[plush cedar]

I've never seen any planets with multiple biomes... unless you count land and deep sea as difference biomes

thats a good point

[empty bloom]

I notice that some flora and minerals only appear in certain types of areas, like a type of plant only being at high altitudes, there being a category of minerals that only exist on mountain terrain, things like that

[plush cedar]

oh yeah, I've seen that. "Rare. Northern. Aquatic. Always Active" etc etc

but other than water vs land... the north isn't any different from the rest of the planet... e.g. no icecaps etc

afaik

regionalized weather would be pretty rad

[empty bloom]

Sometimes hemispheres have kinda different terrain generation, like the north having higher land altitude than the south

[plush cedar]

oh yeah, I've def seen that. One of my ocean missions was on a planet where one whole hemisphere was oceans and the other hemisphere was land with occasional lakes. super wierd place

[empty bloom]

I recall a planet where some areas gently led into ocean while others had massively deep pits that, at the very bottom, had shallow lakes where the sea level would be

[winged dragon]

I've found that to be more prominent on moons

[random fern]

Make combat feel good and diverse please 🙏

I wonder if they'll do a rarity system for tools, items, and weapons.

[thick arrow]

light no fire when?

i know we have like zero info but like what are people’s best guess of like when we get news?

When sean is done whatever family thing is up?

summer games fest?

10 year anniversary?

next game awards?

my personal guess is summer fames fest but i wish for it to be when is family thing is over

[random fern]

August is our best bet, the 8th is no man's sky's 10th anniversary so they are absolutely planning something big, and even if no news comes out then there's a chance they'll show something on the Opening night live of Gamescom August 26th

Just remember folks, no info is better than false info, they are doing everything they can to prevent another launch like no man's sky

[thick arrow]

true

i just wish we didnt had to wait forever

[random fern]

I hope light no fire gets dungeons like the derelict freighters in no man's sky

But an asthetic difference between biomes

[short beacon]

I have some leaked info on lnf

||Lnf will be a game||
||Lnf will not be coming out for gameboy and playstation 1||
||Lnf needs electricity to run the game||

[dawn heart]

I've never played in any of Zelda, but lowkey it reminds me Light No Fire somehow. It's very chilly and calm. I would like to be able to play some musical instrument in the game. It would be so fire, I would like to play main Ocarina ost there)

[acoustic coral]

and lnf will not be collabing with albert epstein

[short beacon]

lnf will have walking mechanics

[thick arrow]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[thick arrow]

Thats not leaked info they confirmed that in the trailer

[smoky wigeon]

Why'd he leave the server? Any idea?

[left needle]

Who?

[smoky wigeon]

Ritsuo

[smoky wigeon]

This dude

[left needle]

Oh

Idk

[thick arrow]

nope

Hope i didnt somehow offend him

[smoky wigeon]

Nah dude was chill af

[wheat vapor]

Enshrouded's worth a play. New update just dropped and it looks better than ever. I started a year ago when it was still in early access and it was great then. Haven't played the new updates yet. Excited to do so

I feel like LNF will model some of the aesthetics in Enshrouded, centered around the medieval travel style and architecture. So we could see a resurgent in comparison between the two. HG is definitely going to have everything everyone wants in it and Enshrouded's massive growth from a small indie early release game to a large title shows its successful.

Im thinking we see factions, settlement style cities where you can take over but with higher decay (i.e. if you dont come back and check on stuff its starts to collapse) and that will prevent Travellers from wanting to stray too far from their base/city unless they have significant transportation assistance, help from other factions/guilds, and highly in depth planning. All of which sounds incredible and is what I crave. And I think it'll be close enough to that concept.

It could be like "Hey I need to travel north for two hours, can you keep watch over my settlement while I traverse for this one item" or even earning money/units to pay guards to watch over while you're away. I think I will go heavy nomad in the beginning as I love exploring but I think it'll be best to wait until bases are built and there's more to discover. So, I think starting off we will all be in our corners of the Earth and will be building our civilizations for others to come explore.

Imagine a player coming up on your society/village and them telling you how long they traveled and what they saw. Absolutely incredible. And then that person may become an instant ally or friend. Or even move in if they like your area better. There is going to be so many opportunities for builds. I imagine we'll also be able to build traverse destinations like "gas stations" or "stores" we could maybe even earn credits/units from like running a small business, and coupd then sell those businesses on a large marketplace (maybe) that would be in depth but would appeal to the market and trading type players. Each bought business would be another investment and could be another adventure that brings you to another far away part of the world to explore more and meet and join new players

[thick arrow]

my greatest hope is that everyone will be on one server

i feel like its possible but it would be insanely difficult

[thick arrow]

Merry Christmas everybody Sean shadow dropped light no fire

NOT

sighs

[cinder notch]

!news

!releasedate

!deadgame

[lilac tartan]

i hope theres gonna be a magic system and a bigger lean into combat, there are some crazy things they could do with the dragons, imagine observing battles from the sky while deciding where to strike.

[stoic spindle]

I want a desert with huge sand dunes or something like that

[winged dragon]

i want fungal forests

[sand wasp]

I want multiplayer to work well

[cinder notch]

!deadgame

[cold cypress]

I really dont know what to expect about it. I'd like it to work as well as NMS, but how? Well, if there's a passionate and capable team for something so ambitious, thats Hello Games... Surprise us!!

[warped hinge]

[lilac tartan]

as well as no mans sky's? i sure hope not, there are so many issues with multiplayer

[thick arrow]

i gotta so i really hope the main imporvement over no mans sky is fantastic multiplayer because it would be awesome and SOMETHING has to be different

[green hull]

Dead game

[proven stirrup]

cant wait to be a bunny

[cold cypress]

Actually ur right. What I meant is that No Man's Sky's multiplayer works and is improving over time (and I believe its also due to Light No Fire's development). And I think its far easy making a multiplayer shared place when its truly limitless and infinite than a shared earth u know? But what would I really appreciate? Well...... Galactic Hub is there doing their stuff. I dream about massive multiplayer in both NMS and LNF...

[cold cypress]

DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED HAHAHA

[cold cypress]

At least, more than 4 players per party would already be great btw!

[safe brook]

lnf is one of an incredibly small list of upcoming games that i'm determined to buy on release, just because i know that even if it turns out kind of bad or janky at the start, hg will keep improving it over time. their history with nms is more than enough to signal that for me

[cold cypress]

I think with 8/10 players we start making business.

I find collaborative bases very interesting too. Like, if we could make bases with more freedom with our friends and could have like the "Owner" and "Admins" and the ownership could be transfered to another player and this kind of thing. It would make the emerging of new communities and civilizations much easier in both LNF and NMS.

Making an enabling proximity voice chat with players out of the party option would be great too! Specially for console players (which actually is not my case).

[cold cypress]

Another thing that would be great is letting players allow crewmates to pilot their corvettes or, in LNF's case, boats and this kind of thing.

[sudden steeple]

Just some kind of challenge and difficulty to make exploration really rewarding would make my day

[cold cypress]

It would be cool. In NMS's case I think this difficulty would be better in end game stuff, because, mainly for new players, theres already a lot to do in NMS currently.

[cinder notch]

!deadgame

[dense token]

Mods, give this guy a haircut

[crystal willow]

💈 ✂️ 💇‍♂️

[coarse fractal]

Gotta go bald

[topaz nova]

Any release date for light no fire?

[hollow leaf]

🔥

Giys

I lit a fire

[coarse fractal]

Sighh didn't you hear the one and only rule

Light no fire

Mods, execute them publicly

[cinder notch]

3048

or possibly ||-6-7-||

[sudden steeple]

I still expect it to release this September

[opaque citrus]

Maybe we will get any news on 10th anniversary

Low chance tho

[solar rampart]

Hope there’s no resets just let the world evolve and prosper or burn depending on what the player base decides

[void palm]

I doubt the playerbase will have any impact on the actual world status, similar to NMS

[solar rampart]

I hope they do would be cool to see the planet completely changed from release to a couple years later no one starting would see the same world player settlements,development,destruction

[sudden steeple]

It could create some issues similar to what happened with Atlas where Chinese players flooded the servers and prevented other players access to essential ressources

I would love a permanent world, but it does create complications

[cinder notch]

!deadgame

[solar rampart]

Bro it ain’t even out yet

[solar rampart]

I see your point guess I’m hoping if what they’re saying is true that maybe since the planets so big if a faction does become dominant than we could go recruit players to rebel take it back

I’m reaching tho

[cinder notch]

eggggggzackly

stillborn game

[solar rampart]

Gotta let em cook bro enough of the deadlines pressure releases people gotta increase they attentions spans and patience

[proven stirrup]

maybe have a feature where it teleports the player somewhere far away from other players' builds? ive seen a LOT of minecraft servers do that, it's almost necessary for big ones

idk much about how games work but maybe there could be multiple (mostly) identical worlds like nms galaxies?

[undone trellis]

They could take notes from hideo kojima and have the most interacted with and liked player changes be seen the most.

The whole dirt path clearing mechanic is probably too much to ask for.

[opaque citrus]

Pls dont copy kojimbo 😆 . Let lnf be lnf

[polar nymph]

i think we'll be fine just having a single world and not doing multiple. the largest gas giants in nms are approximately 90 km/56 miles in diameter, which is about the same as the halfway point between fort myers and tampa. if the planet in lnf is the size of earth, you are RARELY seeing another person in the wild. any form of civilization will likely be either small city-states (often founded by youtubers) with a few dozen people in them, or corporations. the player count for lnf will never be able to reach a point where bases and seeing too many people is a problem because the planet is simply too damn big to do so

[winged dragon]

I thought the largest gas giants exceeded 1100km in diameter (assuming 1u = 1m)

[polar nymph]

even then it still ain't SHIT compared to earth

[stark sapphire]

I’m losing my sanity, here is the result:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LightNoFireHelloGames/s/W648REmHv9

[toxic plover]

I really am starting to worry for all game developers with pending upcoming releases due to the popular corporate direction with AI . The fact there is no real updates soon to personal home computer upgrades how can software designers know how to plan for releases. If NVIDIA gets there way no one going forward will own a pc you will rent all service's. Game developers will then have to design within these platforms. If LNF launched to early the game could fail due to lack of capability of the gamer. If they wait they may need to redesign the whole platform based on the new dynamics. Going forward I pray the game and players can survive the near uncertainty.

[proven stirrup]

seriously hoping they arent ai bros and do everything authentically

(I mean AI generated assets, not counting "traditional" video game AI like procgen and NPC behavior lol)

[stark sapphire]

Just shared all the wojaks here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LightNoFireHelloGames/comments/1q9nh6f/custom_lnf_wojaks/

4K version on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGcS2s-LpV8

[winged dragon]

I imagine that when LNF releases someone is going to speedrun lighting a fire.

Light a Fire%

[dusk hatch]

Looks like Social Media influencers are taking shots at LNF.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAegZ0V7CBE

Might be a good time to drum up some promo

[opaque citrus]

I guess they dont have anything to shoot at if they aim for game that never had release date

[safe brook]

"what happened" uh... nothing?? a whole lot of nothing happened to lnf, lmao

[opaque citrus]

Tryi g to get conent out of nothing 😆

[thick arrow]

Literally the only reason they are taking aim st light no fire is because its been so radio silent after no mans sky crazy amount of info and continued updates

And i guess it is inevitable that oneof the most hype games on steam has zero info

oh wait you know what steam should do

Make it a day one release on Steam Machine

Both are crazy hyped with no updates except one short surprise announcement video and feel like they should/are supposed to come out soon but still have no actual info beyond a steam page and are fond of consistently failing to appear at any if the major events where they might announce more info

And no the shirt from the game awards doesnt count

[void palm]

That would require both to be ready at the same time

[thick arrow]

unfortunately yeah

[barren wing]

I cant believe we got Hytale before lnf

[sand wasp]

Gonna get GTA 6 too

[long remnant]

I think gta 6 will “steal” all kinds of awards once it comes out, i mean that it will be uncomparable (idk how to spell it) to games that are extremely good but from smaller studio’s

And am i the only one that thinks that with gta 6 were gonna be leaning more and more to ready player one type games

[thick arrow]

unfortunately i think GTA 6 might have issues with people expecting the world's best game

[opaque citrus]

Gta 6 will be just gta online 2.

[thick arrow]

light no fire announcement leaked

the game free next week on epic games mentions the song light no fire in the onscreen text over the trailer

clear reference to the impending light no fire shadow drop

[winged dragon]

we will get lnf before gta6

[coarse fractal]

For a valid reason, ts' development literally costs more than the frickin burj khalifa

Which is also an issue, cause even with all the hype and anticipated amount of people who'll buy it, cost is gonna be rly high if devs wanna make even a tiny margin of profit

[winged dragon]

Do you think Elon Musk will buy GTA6?

(this is a joke)

[foggy glen]

No light no fire 😔😔

[thick arrow]

The Burj Khalifa?!?!!??!?

THIS GAME COST MORE TO PRODUCE THE THE TALLEST BUILDING IN THE WORLD?!!?!

hooboy

imagine jt realeases for $120 base game up to $200 for a few cosmetics and its crazy glitchy and the only new thing is better graphics

Honestly tho i think people would still buy it

[opaque citrus]

Tbf . If lnf will be glitchy at release many will still buy it

But from diffrent reasons

[thick arrow]

yeah

[empty bloom]

"Special dragon mount with pre-order"
SOLD

[opaque citrus]

Ship Preorder bug ptsd intensifies*

[coarse fractal]

Yep, and I wish I was kidding

[thick arrow]

Cost over 2 Billion

i looked it up

[thick arrow]

TAKE MY MONEY!

TAKE IT

[proven stirrup]

"extra bunnies with pre-o-" bought

[sand wasp]

[opaque citrus]

🥔

[thick arrow]

Wonder what the preorder bonus actually would be

maybe like a skin

[terse wedge]

What will the theme of light no fire be

Because nms theme is space exploration or smth

[opaque citrus]

Also exploration.

[winged dragon]

we should be able to launch stuff into orbit in lnf

[opaque citrus]

Maybe atmosphere thicness will be more realistic than in lnf

[thick arrow]

Maybe but that seems a bit extreme

Realistic atmospheric physics

[opaque citrus]

Local wheather, and storms not coming out from nowhere.

[empty bloom]

Nms theme is existentialism

I think lnf will have a theme of perseverance

It gives prometheus gives fire to man vibes

[tawny helm]

LNF needs a theme of new information and a release window

[tropic patrol]

🔥

Just gonna keep that here

[mighty bridge]

Is this also gonna be an atlas simulation

[thick arrow]

Perhaps something along those lines but likely not quite

[cinder notch]

Thought I’d come by to say

!deadgame

[sand wasp]

Super useful

Gamers have 0 patience for anything except some grinding, it's pretty wild

[winged dragon]

Gamers when GTA6 is delayed by 1 hour:

[waxen quartz]

To be fair every No Man Sky update is kind of a soft Light no Fire update since it is tech being ported over.

[neat plinth]

We excited ova heeeaaaar @obtuse onyx

[untold nymph]

Does anyone know roughly when LNF comes out (1, 2, 5, 10 years from now?)

[hushed latch]

Anywhere from before GTA6 to 20 years from now. We are all waiting tbh.

[opaque citrus]

Bad case scenario. WHAT IF LNF came out as mmo with monthly subscription ? Would u still buy it?

[gritty cliff]

Most likely getting it before TES 6. lol

[hushed latch]

Depends on the price lol.

Some like $5 or something. Sure. $20? Not so much.

[coarse fractal]

JRPG

[thick arrow]

i think you have the dates backwards. anywhere from 20 years from now till GTA6 comes out(it doesnt exist)

[thick arrow]

yes

[empty bloom]

I cant imagine hello games doing that

I dont think I'd even be able to decide, I'd just be in shock

[coarse fractal]

You meant at least 20 years after GTA 6 comes out?

[winged dragon]

GTA6 doesn't exist.
The next GTA game will be GTA7.

[cinder notch]

I’ll concede this point but it’s small comfort compared to progress reports

Rafael is taking forever to release episode five of winter mute but at least he is sending progress reports

A trailer followed by a year of radio silence is bullshit Sean

I get that you are gun shy after fucking the nms release but you recovered and got your flowers

Learn how to moderate ffs

[zinc shale]

I’ll go on a whim here, but remember that NMS and probably LNF will both require the player to create their own story. There is really nothing to show as of right now since it’s still in development. Even NMS trailers were just players running around doing random shit. That doesn’t tell me anything about the game, and it’s going to be a minute before they can actually show us anything.

[coarse fractal]

Mfs when GTA 7 comes out before GTA 6:

[hushed latch]

Yea sorry yall, we had a team working on GTA 7 and they finished before we did. We have to delay GTA 6 again because it still isn't ready.

[thick arrow]

I mean GTA6 is never coming out. The game doesnt existtttttttttttt

Thats just what the Illuminati want you to think

[thick arrow]

Fair tho like can we just have SOMETHING

[thick arrow]

Honestly that’s legitimately possible

The big studios do work on sequels before the game releases sometimes i believe

bit of good luck for GTA7 and a lot of bad luck for GTA6

[waxen quartz]

I don’t know if I will even be alive to see GTA7 if I am being honest lol

[thick arrow]

Thats fair

I would be surprised if GTA7 was out any early then like 2032

[elder comet]

GTA7 definitely 2040+

which is only 14 years away 💀

[thick arrow]

Dont remind me😭

[opaque citrus]

It will fly faster than u think. For example . Resident evil 2 remake is 7 years old already

[coarse fractal]

There's a solo dev that I know
He's been working on an extremely anticipated update and made like 50% progress on it
But decided to start working on a new project, then another one, then why not do some animation, then art, then that kind of art, then irl studies...
Update might unironically come out after GTA 6

Worst part is, last july it was officialy announced to come out on August 2025

Now let's see if it drops before or after LNF

[thick arrow]

ouch

[native cradle]

1.4.5 terraria before light no fire

[hushed latch]

Lol.

When GTA6 comes out I wonder if Light No Fire will become the next “so and so” before [input video game that hasn’t come out yet here]

[thick arrow]

bro its actually depressing how crazy the community goes over ANYTHING light no fire related

havent even gotten a no mans sky update in forever now that i think about it

i guess since the holiday expeditions only ended 2 weeks ago itll be a bit

orrrrrr maybe they are pausing before the light no fire trailer in february

but thats probably just the copium talking

[rigid sluice]

Yeah the copium be hitting hard

[near agate]

LNF is a myth. It does not exist, it all has been just for advertising NMS. No news since the teaser years ago. Go figure.

[opaque citrus]

Lnf is real . Trust. HG just dont want to say anything about ut bc they testing game builds on deaf kids in the basement.

[hushed latch]

Gonna pull a Silksong on us here soon. 🙏

[thick arrow]

Oh pls do 🙏

[coarse fractal]

LNF is propaganda ong

[coarse fractal]

Silksong came out, so yeah

[naive basalt]

I'd believe it tbh. But hey it'll be sick af

[winged dragon]

[wanton arch]

Any day now

[thick arrow]

Stress on the any and not on “a day soon now”

[silent saffron]

It's been quiet for 2 years now about this game right

[sand wasp]

As far as new info, yes. Every NMS update they mention they are working on it.

[waxen quartz]

I bet the next trailer is going to be amazing!

They must be cooking up a storm over there

I don't want to get my expectations too high but look at what they are doing with No Man's Sky. How can I not?

[hushed latch]

I mean you also have to consider where No Mans Sky started. LNF could be the same way.

[opaque citrus]

Free updates? 10 years of support? No mtx or lootboxes? Sign me up.

[waxen quartz]

Plus they aren't in a hurry to release the game so it will have a higher chance of being polished

[coarse fractal]

Lwk the worst thing to do imo is putting my expectations too high, ofc there's a good chance the game looks very good but we never know

[waxen quartz]

As long as they pour the same love into Light no Fire and support it in the long run I think having high expectations is also warranted. I’m excited either way. We must get some news this year at least!

[coarse fractal]

True true

[hushed latch]

Uhh no. No Mans Sky is considered to be the pinacle of redemptions. Initially it failed on what it was originally meant to do and then it gradually became the masterpiece it is today. Light No Fire could very well be a disappointing game when it comes out - but you are correct, if we compare the games like this it will become a masterpiece.

[thick arrow]

I sure hope it does. I feel like we can count on Hello Games not to botch this i just wish we could see SOMETHING

[coarse fractal]

Zamn we might actually get LNF before GTA 6
-# president of rockstar games is on... that list

[craggy shore]

I hope we can rob banks with ak-47s in light no fire

[hushed latch]

Err. I hate to dissapoint. But there probably won't be any ak-47s. Or any banks.

[coarse fractal]

Aww :( so I assume my little fantasy medieval game won't have thermonuclear bombs either?

[empty bloom]

Depends on how the magic works

[coarse fractal]

"Abracadabra"
proceeds to wipe off an entire city and thousands of its inhabitants off the map

[craggy shore]

Been ages since I see the trailer, I hope there's a jump button, despite humanity almost never jumping as much irl

[empty bloom]

I dont care about the statistical frequency for jumping, if I encounter an obstacle irl that requires jumping, I'm gonna jump

[craggy shore]

Cap, you finna take a big step over that or walk around it

[cinder grotto]

Rabbit-people players gonna need a hop button

[opaque citrus]

But they will swim fast and use tounge as graple hook

[waxen quartz]

We better be able to fight with our dragons

I want big dragons too

[empty bloom]

So... those would be frogs, not rabbits, but the concept is one i wanna see now

[opaque citrus]

I would play as human anyway

[empty bloom]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: I would play as a literal dragon if it were an option

[winged dragon]

Honestly there should be an infinite speed glitch in LNF when it releases

[safe brook]

hg give me foxpeople and my wallet is yours
-# as if i wasn't 1,000% going to pick up this game on release anyway

[balmy elk]

Hope the game comes out soon

[void palm]

There were fox people in the trailer

@safe brook

[opaque citrus]

Chicken pepole: gulp* 💀

[void palm]

Lmfao

[thick arrow]

The 3rd Great Predator War

[polar ivy]

Im acting all excited for the release knowing that Im only gonna buy it once it goes in sale

[hushed latch]

Honestly depending on the price - same. That’s what I did with NMS and Portal 1&2. Steam sales are great for the consumer and questionable for the producer.

[polar ivy]

I also bought portal when it was on sale, it was only a dollar

[safe brook]

if i have the funds i'm absolutely buying it on release, i trust hg to make a great game even if it's absolutely awful on release. (which to be clear i don't think it will be, but, either way)

they've stuck with nms for this long and haven't asked for a single extra cent when in reality they totally could have justified charging for extra content if they wanted to.

[polar ivy]

Fr

[craggy shore]

I hope we can drive a Pagani around in this game

[feral linden]

2029 release ?

[formal wren]

Ok ok 😎

[polar ivy]

hopefully sooner

i dont want the game to realease broken, but ialso wanna be alive to play it

[dusk jolt]

[feral linden]

Facts

[smoky ledge]

I'm 47 with health issues, lol. I need it before I die

[thick arrow]

Um guys

I’m either way overthinking this or i just noticed something important

They never mentioned light no fire in the new update release log

Depsite mentioning it EVERYTIME(that i know of) since probably it was announced(dont have the time to actually check each and every release log)

[hushed latch]

Yea they did.

Very very bottom.

[thick arrow]

wait did they?

i was searching for it

gimme a sec

I dont think they did

Its Corvettes on switch(goated) and then just patch notes to the copyright at the bottom

[hushed latch]

Oh in the log? It's in the Steam announcement.

[thick arrow]

Hmmm

You’re right

phooey

Was hoping jt pointed to either IGN’s upcoming event or Steam Next Fest maybe announcing it

Guess thats just the copium talking

[languid orbit]

please save the mmo genre! 😉

[hushed latch]

Hypixel Skyblock was the peak of MMO and the death of MMO and nothing changes my mind. (I don’t consider No Mans Sky to be an MMO, and I haven’t played many or any other MMO’s, so yes please save MMO’s.)

[languid orbit]

Im talking about light no fire...

[hushed latch]

I was saying that I haven't played enough MMOs and that from what I see online the genre needs saving. Light No Fire should do that. This continues my trend of being unable to actually use words.

[sand wasp]

Unfortunately we have no indicators this will be an MMO

[thick arrow]

I wish

But also then its bound to get filled with toxic players and hackers

So honestly im starting to think it would be better not being one

[hushed latch]

Hu. I always thought it would be like NMS. But it never says that does it.

"Carve a life together. Meet players from across the globe, build a life, explore and survive together. Construct persistent buildings and communities, or strike out alone to discover the world for others." - LNF Steam Page.

That's all we get.

[thick arrow]

A lot of people have hoped jts a mmo by the “a multiplayer world” but its highly unlikely

[empty bloom]

I think i have an idea for how it would be, but idk the terms, lol

Basically like nms but with better base loading is what I think

[hushed latch]

I mean you pop a million players on a singular planet and I have a feeling there will still be plenty of land to explore.

And if not I'm not complaining too much. Still sounds fun.

[thick arrow]

Yeah it woild be great if you could just like occasionally see players

but not really interact with them

[empty bloom]

Interaction would be awesome, idk what youre talking about, lol

[thick arrow]

i’d be fine with seeing them occasionally

Onviously interaction would be better

[empty bloom]

I personally think infrastructure (like fast travel) should be the result of player interaction

[thick arrow]

What im more of thinking is you can see like 32 players in an circumference and it auto parties so you just see people like a faux mmo

My only concern with an MMO is i recently started getting worried about toxic players

guess we will just have to build an city at the planet core

wait

whats the planet gonna be caled

my guess is a)unamed b)Prometheus c)some ranfom thing

[thick arrow]

I gotta say Prometheus would be a decently sick name

[thick arrow]

What if we spammed their socials for news

The entire server working together

[crystal willow]

I think we should order birthday cakes from some local bakery and have them delivered to Hello Games HQ, like with a candle and some pun about fire written on the cake

[short beacon]

you my friend have an intelligence better then all of the Korvax, the Gek, and the vykeen combined

[hushed latch]

I’m guessing Lulumbu. If any of the devs are part of this server it would be really funny. Otherwise I don’t know. Could be just about anything - if they call it something at all.

[pliant slate]

Just joined the server and saw this channel. Is this game ever coming out?

[sand wasp]

Sure

[void palm]

4546A

(Is my unserious guess, but would be really funny)

[plain token]

I think Hello Games should make a supporter pack for LNF and NMS so players and fans can support them beyond the initial purchase

[opaque citrus]

I mean. If u want to give hg more money u can buy their merch or other games

[void palm]

Or buy NMS on more platforms

[sand wasp]

Send me money, I'll make sure they get it

Trust

[half sigil]

[thick arrow]

Might get a bit pricey is the only problem

[thick arrow]

LULUMBU!!!!!

[thick arrow]

Not unless we petition the devs

[thick arrow]

They would make to much money and would be too busy counting their money to make the game

[plain token]

I don't have more platforms to play on

[plain token]

I mean the total cost of buying all their other games on sale (if you own NMS) is like $3

merch has regional shipping problem

[opaque citrus]

Then buy outside the sale

[thick arrow]

I still kinda think that we should organise a social media petition just to force them to show us like 1 image of LNF

[opaque citrus]

And they will send u the game logo

[thick arrow]

Good enough

[ember saffron]

Chat I think the game is telling us to not be like our ancestors

So we should never invent fire

[thick arrow]

🔥

[safe brook]

oh huh this was the plot of an anime I watched recently
-# sorta.

[plain token]

I hope the release of LNF doesn't mean the end of updates for NMS

[opaque citrus]

It wont.

[void palm]

While we can’t know for sure I would be incredibly shocked if it did

[thick arrow]

there are two seperate teams working on it right now so i would suspect they will simply expand the teams once more and create a third team for "No Like Water"

[graceful shore]

Definitely not. They’ve come a long way and have a long way to come

There’s still so many bugs but I think it’s amazing how far they’ve come

[thick arrow]

It really is incredible how they managed to turn it around

there is this one youtbe video "the rise and fall of no mans sky/hello games" and its really interesting

follows the hype, death threats, and redemption

[runic token]

Wish I had stuck with NMS more than I did. Missed out on a lot. Not making that mistake with LNF

[thick arrow]

Yeah i only bought no mans sky recently(on switch😭) but im definitely going to work theough it all and i hope to be there minute 1 for LNF

[cinder notch]

https://www.tickcounter.com/countup/498574/days-since-light-no-fire-trailer

[thick arrow]

we have passed two years 2 months

[craggy shore]

Finna be another Cyberpunk 2077 situation

[sand wasp]

Not sure how it can be problematic as they have never given a release date, gamers be impatient af

[hushed latch]

Some gamers. Hytale took 7 or so years and everyone was still pretty hyped for it.

[sand wasp]

Ya, and this is doing something no other game has tried before. I'm quite content to wait for them to finish up

[thick arrow]

I'm fine with waiting its just agonizing

I'm not the slightest bit mad but i dont have to be happy

[sand wasp]

I hope I am somewhere between those states, not happy or mad, just patient

[foggy geyser]

Light Every Fire

[cinder notch]

Release No Game

I’ll still buy it

When it comes out

In 2028

[thick arrow]

fingers crossed the Future Games show includes Light no fire

If i take copium long enough it will work

[deft lagoon]

i would prefer to wait some insted of recieve junk lol

[vital dune]

i hope we get an m1 garand in light no fire

[deft lagoon]

lol my first thought is ow

[lapis geyser]

So excited for this game

[exotic wren]

ok since i was kicked out of the main chat... i had a thought of how nms and lnf can be linked

We all know "redacted" is failing right? what if in its last moments it finds a suitable world and uses it's power to fill it with life...that life being us?

[thick arrow]

dude i havent gotten there and its so obvious what that is

use spoiler text

not "redacted"

also why on earth were you kicked out

sus

[safe brook]

yknow i kind of hope that lnf and nms are not really connected at all. if we're still gonna do the whole ||dying supercomputer|| thing then at least let it be a different one, not the same one

[smoky ledge]

Yeh keep them separate

[faint gorge]

Has there been any news for this game?

[thick arrow]

A resounding NO

[craggy shore]

Why

[thick arrow]

Yeah thats a good question

[empty bloom]

Well, whatever the case, I'm calling the lnf one "Prometheus" and I've seen some others doing the same

My guess, though, is dying/trapped/tormented god

[thick arrow]

perhaps

Prometheus i feel is the only reliable fan theory with how little info we have

[opaque citrus]

Its a popular teory with all the theme about the fire and how HG has a lot greek mythology references in nms

[empty bloom]

Going off the title, vibes from the trailer, and torch thingy, I think the game will have to do with the gift/theft of fire myth

[thick arrow]

Hopefully because that would be a great story

[latent remnant]

im really excited

[hushed latch]

Well hopefully you can keep that excitement for the long haul. We could be here a while.

[latent remnant]

yes

[hushed latch]

🎉

[short beacon]

I wonder how far you'll be able to see someone light a fire in the distance?

[fallen rock]

Sorry, we will be able to light no fire

[thick arrow]

Weird

[thick arrow]

Probably not insanely far but like NMS distance and the plume of smoke is a vague beacon but probably not a very easy one to use

[hushed latch]

I feel like that’s going to be a limitation to the system. A few miles irl is very difficult for a computer. I’m gonna say unless you have a beefy computer - not that far.

[thick arrow]

Might be able to change it like in Minecraft

[hushed latch]

I don’t think you can in NMS. I feel like this would be similar.

[thick arrow]

Yeah you cant but it would be nice

Or binocular/binocular spells

Cool spells and enchantments would be sick like a mix of hogwarts legacy spells and minecraft enchanting

[silver cloud]

LNF when? Haven't been following it for a long time.

[void palm]

We known’t

[spring plinth]

Tomorrow trust

[winged raven]

So from what i understand, lnf is going to be everyone on one earth sized planet?

If so itll be interesting how exploration proceeds. Odds are the game will peak at a few hundred thousand like nms. The last time earth had that many people, we hadnt figured out agriculture yet, yet we are working with more knowledge than they had then. Would it take us 3 irl years to circumnavigate it as magellan did?

[opaque citrus]

Yes. One planet for all in size of earth. We dont know anything about it except what was shown in the trailer

[thick arrow]

It could be everyone on the same planet but we dont have any info

[meager bronze]

Im hyped over this

I hope character customization is deep

[thick arrow]

I meam there seem to be a massive number of races and no mans sky had some decent customization so hopefully its an upgrade

[tidal bison]

Lnf is propaganda

Not real

Very very fake

[thick arrow]

Propaganda would be more often

its worse then propaganda

Its a hopium drug dealer

[rose tide]

its says, lnf will be as big as earth, idk if it will be flat like minecraft or sphere like planet, like nms planets

i mean earth is really big, a lot of people still cant comprehend the size of earth

i wonder if different saves have different maps, or everything is shared to one

[cinder notch]

https://www.tickcounter.com/countup/498574/days-since-light-no-fire-trailer

[thick arrow]

Almost absolutely a sphere

[thick arrow]

I hope its all on one planet but even if it isnt i think it will be the same map

[astral mulch]

LOL

2 years

never gonna finish it

[thick arrow]

It gets to a certain point where its better to let it sit and beat out silksong

[astral mulch]

lol

[thick arrow]

I wonder what the longest time period of zero silksong news is

[neon vault]

It would be 100000 real players and hundreds of times more NPCs I think

Either way I doubt the players will be the only humans on the planet

[opaque citrus]

I think npc will be present ( story and quets related). In what % tho , no idea

[astral mulch]

its never gonna work we all know what happens in expedition 21

[tidal bison]

Game has one Eastern European working 14 hours a day in a bunker with a 5090 rig in it doing all the modeling, scripting, testing, and directing the entire game since the trailer dropped for a total of 4.78 steam credit per week

[cinder notch]

just point claude code at that shit and wrap it up in a week

[hushed latch]

That’s how you make sure there won’t be a game at all.

[craggy shore]

Ima light a fire

[hushed latch]

[thick arrow]

I know this is probably pretty obvious but im thinking the new no mans sky update was for texting cart physics for LNF

Which honestly with how good it is in NMS(tho admittedly slow) looks really good

Gonna be a travelling Elk-person merchant in a cart pulled by elk

[kind quest]

either carts, or physical boat cargo

maybe both, too

[thick arrow]

Oooh yeah boar cargo

Id say both

Bro this game is never coming out

Im betting on Summer Games show announcing a aingle frame of the game for a late 2027 release date gonna get delayed till 2030 after a few delays

[crude minnow]

light no fire, is going to light my pc on fire

(i sent this 11:53pm, im need and im going to sleep)

[hushed latch]

My poor 960 Nvidia GPU is gonna have the time of its life.

(I’ve upgraded a bit ago but it’s still funny to bring up)

[crude minnow]

Ima get the best gpu, RTX 0001

[crude minnow]

lol

[astral mulch]

lol

[astral mulch]

#1418605454300549120

[analog escarp]

So what is light no fire about?

[cinder notch]

It's about trolling all the players who gave Sean shit about rolling out NMS too early

[crystal willow]

Fantasy sandbox game with some RPG elements or mechanics in a very large proc gen world
https://www.lightnofire.com/

It will be about... stuff

[spice oak]

aka we don't know

lol

[sinful fog]

Wha

You can't light a fire here

It's light no fire

[thick arrow]

truest thing i have ever read

[crude minnow]

Can I eat fire?

[opaque citrus]

U can eat everything at least once

[thick arrow]

Just no guarantees it wont kill you

[sinful fog]

Yes

Fire very delicious

[crude minnow]

Agreed

[sinful fog]

HEY WHO TRIED LIGHTING A FIRE HERE

[fickle magnet]

why there no fire

[opaque citrus]

Because we #light-no-fire here

[teal wing]

will this be on mac day 1

[thick arrow]

absolutely not do most pc games ever even make it to mac?

[opaque citrus]

No official confirmed platforms but we suspect it will be on xbox, pc, ps on day one.

[teal wing]

no mans sky is on mac smart one

[thick arrow]

Wait i dont have mac can you use like steam on mac?

doesnt seem like something apple would allow

[crystal willow]

Yes, that's how people play NMS on Mac

People play games on Mac and in all likelihood when LNF releases it will also be on Mac

[crystal willow]

Yes, they do

[thick arrow]

Wild. I mean that makes sense but i am not a mac user and for some reason that just never entered my mind lol

If Hello Games was smart they would be jn this channel

Just getting an intern to regularily check in and see what mad expectations and hopes and copium we have invented recently

Keep an ear to the ground

[hushed latch]

Probably are tbh.

Thank you Gunter.

[dense token]

Can I make a fire?

[astral mulch]

BURRNNN

[hushed latch]

We have ONE RULE.

[thin dock]

I wonder if I’ll be able to build my own galleon when lnf comes out

[opaque citrus]

I can alrady see pepole building aircraft carriers on day 1

[spice gazelle]

light a torch

FIRE NOW HAHAH

[meager bronze]

im worried since they didnt fix the terrien regen on nms will theye be able to prevent it on here?

[dense token]

I’m not lighting a fire, I’m making a fire

[hushed latch]

We now have two rules.

[opaque citrus]

They didint fixed it bc it was not broken. It is like that by design. HG has no possibility to record milions of bigger and smaller terrain changes on milions of planets made by players . In LNF there is one confirmed planet so it might be totaly diffrent system used in that game.

[meager bronze]

i hope so its just annoying to have my base undergournd now, why isnt it possible for me at least or my save to record and keep what i do im not asking for everyone or millions of others just mine for me

[opaque citrus]

It could kinda worked in the beginning when game was single player and bases could not be placed anywhere at will. But as HG added features players wanted like mp and more bases the existing system fallen apart

[thick arrow]

🔥

[deft moth]

Isnt it wild that we’ll get gta6 before light no fire?

[thick arrow]

Yes

[hushed latch]

Will we? They might pull a Silksong.

[kind quest]

not that wild to me, i think

i think gta 6 has been in development for longer?

[sand wasp]

And has about 10 times the budget and man power

[balmy elk]

Has there still not been any news on release yet ?

[balmy elk]

😭 what a shame

[kind quest]

all we know is they're still working on it

[hushed latch]

Heck we barely know that.

[thick arrow]

We know as of December at minimum

[deft moth]

When was the last time when we heard anything new about this game?

[flint sierra]

I threw a suggestion over to Hello Games to add heraldry as a feature with collectible tinctures, ordinaries and charges (colours, field divisions and symbols). Each character could have a unique coat of arms.

[void palm]

TGA 2023 iirc

[void palm]

No we don’t, there’s absolutely no guarantee of news by December

[cinder grotto]

That's not what they said, albeit confusingly worded

[thick arrow]

Sorry i meant the t-shirt from the game awards

I couldn’t remember when they last mentioned it was still in progress in an update

[dark kiln]

They really need to release this game soon. I can't wait. D:

[thick arrow]

Real this game is going to be epic

[stark mural]

Following current trends, they will probably announce the game and shutter the studio all in the same day

[thick arrow]

Bro isnt that the light no fire inage kn the server pic

April Fools the game never existed at all

Light no fire was the friends we made along the way

[crystal willow]

❌ Wrong. It's Adventure Time

[untold rampart]

I didn't even realize this was an actual game ngl

[kind quest]

Hello Games is doing fine, and LNF probably wont flop unless they mess up again

they’re also privately owned, no investors to appeal to

[hasty bluff]

The only way for LNF to flop is for its gameplay to not live up to the hype. And even then if it‘s still just good enough, it‘ll likely have a pretty large & loyal community.

[kind quest]

i can imagine people hunting for different dragons the same way we hunt for ships

[hushed latch]

Honestly yea. I just don't think we will get to start with one lol.

[thick arrow]

the only way for light no fire to flop is for Hello Games to get bought up by some huge company

even if the game is terrible to begin with it will eventually be fantastic

[hushed latch]

Depends on what company, and how much control over LNF HG retains.

I mean they still update NMS so they have to be doing somewhat okay financially.

[thick arrow]

I just mean like Ubisoft buys them out and kills the game or ruins the studio

[hushed latch]

If Ubisoft buys them that means the end of Hello Games. Same with EA.

[kind quest]

Hello Games has lasted this long, I think they'll be okay

[thick arrow]

im not expecting it just saying thats one of the inly possible ways the game flops

it requires Hello Games to fundamentally change, either from within or without

[deft moth]

May I borrow some light to make a fire?

[covert drum]

I can’t wait to start the first massive capital city

[lyric cargo]

Anyone have an official/unofficial "everything we know and can guess to date" source on LNF? Or is the main site pretty much the best and scowering countless hours of youtube coverage showing the same footage and covering the same topics? I'm lookin for that spearhead resource who is obsessed before release

[thick arrow]

Us

[hushed latch]

There is a Discord listed in pins. Probably your best bet.

[lyric cargo]

Awesome ty

[lyric cargo]

Haha love it

[jaunty haven]

what exacly is this new game about?

[hushed latch]

@jaunty haven This is probably a good source.

[jaunty haven]

oh

eh, check it later