community-chat

[teal yoke]

i need a vector where a man standing with bad clothes and broken shoes and kid with holding hand in good clothes

Told Firefly to show me i need a vector where a man standing with bad clothes and broken shoes and kid with holding hand in good clothes

[reef dragon]

Firefly is not a Discord bot, prompting is browser based. Request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/.
For more information about, and how to use Firefly please read the #faq channel.

[wooden granite]

ERROR BEEPS
Request it yourself!
https://firefly.adobe.com/generate/images
See #faq for more info.

[oak elbow]

creative computer with modern future technology with AI

[wooden granite]

Did you mean: Android

[nimble sapphire]

Action Shots: Feature dynamic action shots of players in various soccer positions, such as shooting, dribbling, or making a pass. This captures the excitement and intensity of the game.

[wooden granite]

Firefly is not a Discord bot, prompting is browser based. Request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/.
For more information about, and how to use, Firefly, please read the #faq channel. 👁️ 〰️ 👁️

[weary spindle]

#community-chat

[shy elk]

Sometimes the color contrast is too high, it will make the picture lose a lot of realism.

[wooden granite]

That's when you add protrast.

🤡

[shy elk]

It doesn't necessarily have to do with color saturation

[shy elk]

Maybe, but not exactly.
It's the possible disadvantage of text-to-image.

In another way, perhaps it's leading the orientation to the Strong art painting.

[wooden granite]

how to use it

@here

[reef dragon]

#faq

[shy elk]

1. request
2. wait for the reply "You're in"
3. generate

[long path]

Hi

How to generate images

[shy elk]

How do you do

[wooden granite]

Firefly is not a Discord bot, prompting is browser based. Request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/.
For more information about, and how to use, Firefly, please read the #faq channel. 👁️ 〰️ 👁️

[shy elk]

Have you got the reply of "You're in"?

[long path]

@wooden granite thanks

@shy elk no 😦

[shy elk]

then you'd better request first and wait for it

[long path]

I've requested

[shy elk]

Well, the patience is the last thing

Or further, you could login the Firefly website to check the availablity of it since somtimes the reply is not so rapidly.

[dark shoal]

HI ALL

[shy elk]

Hi dude

[dark shoal]

i am new to adobe firefly!

[shy elk]

Welcome to join us!

[dark shoal]

thank you!

where are you from,howe?

[shy elk]

I'm form CHN

[dark shoal]

okay!

can i ask you something?

[shy elk]

of course, please

[dark shoal]

i wan to use AI in my photography business!

[shy elk]

You mean Adobe Firefly?

[dark shoal]

there are lot of questions spiining in my head!

like how to start and what to do and how it works!

[shy elk]

let's go step by step

[wooden granite]

Unfortunately,

🥲

[shy elk]

request
wait for the reply "You're in"
generate

[shy elk]

these 3 steps are included

@dark shoalWhere have you been?

[dark shoal]

i got disconnected

[shy elk]

You mean network?
That's all right.
Time for lunch. I gotta go. If you have further discussion, maybe others are willing for help~

[oak elbow]

/orange, natural juice, real, 8k, hyperrealistic, alone

[buoyant glen]

That's just it I'm not using any racial slurs

[lone rose]

Firefly is not a Discord bot, prompting is browser based. Request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/.
For more information about, and how to use Firefly please read the #faq channel.

[shy elk]

Getting better everyday, no matter in the skills of generating images or the rapport of communicating with others.

[nova plume]

create a natural scenery

[wooden granite]

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For more information about, and how to use, Firefly, please read the #faq channel. 👁️ 〰️ 👁️

[torn stone]

Hello,
I received the "you're in" message, however, I cannot create own projects. There is only the demo video running. What do I have to do to CREATE? Thanks for a hint 🙂 Greetings from Germany!

[dusky osprey]

Hello, is there an option to regenerate certain image - create multiple version of it? Or I can only generate from scratch?

[brisk yacht]

Hello all!!! Perhaps a silly question, but is the Beta available in Australia? I applied back in March and haven't heard back yet, beyond an acknowledgement email on the 1st of April.

[tight stone]

/imagine hh

[rancid maple]

can't open the firefly link

https://firefly.adobe.com/generate/images this results in blank page

[eternal portal]

It's loading for me

Try doing a hard refresh on your browser

Ctrl + F5 on Chrome

[still bobcat]

Ok

[limpid oak]

yes

[mint flame]

Hello 🙂 With "Text to Image" I only get the message "Can't load
This image produced an error. Please try again.
Is FireFly currently being rebuilt or something? Am I doing something wrong?

[wind topaz]

It could be the choice of words in the prompt that is preventing it from producing an image

[mint flame]

I took an example from the BETA website to experiment with. Nothing works there either. For example "bear with sunglasses in the woods"

[gaunt holly]

https://giphy.com/gifs/firefly-television-KQIj1SLiJJcEU

When we will get access to firefly

[rancid maple]

tried two different browsers same result

[eternal portal]

Huh

[wind topaz]

I don’t know what the issue might be.

[eternal portal]

That's weird

[rancid maple]

used firefox and chrome

[wind topaz]

I use Firefox and Safari

And Brave.

No issues

[rancid maple]

same with microsoft edge

[wind topaz]

That is weird

[eternal portal]

Working for me, too

I'm on Chrome

Could be a regional thing tbh

[wind topaz]

Regional issue for sure

[mint flame]

Thanks unknown friends 🙂 I have now switched to chrome and there it works.
FireFox seems to have a problem with it although it worked for a while.

[wind topaz]

I’m also using it on mobile. Safari with no issues

[ripe wasp]

lord krishna in space

lochan

[lyric yacht]

create an image of an AI powered supply chain

[keen mason]

@lyric yacht Adobe Firefly is not a Discord bot, please check out the instructions in the #faq channel to get started

[zenith ermine]

/imagine prompt: create a hotair baloon babyshoot setup with cotton clouds and white background , uplight, high quality

[astral jolt]

there were several cases usually when people who were applying met this issue; They were applying with an email that has no Adobe ID associated it. They had the email to which invite arrived not as primary; They were signing in with via social accounts (social sign in). Does anything of the mentioned applies to your case?

[astral jolt]

not sure what kind of multiplication you are mentioning. Could you elaborate some more?

[astral jolt]

it is available in Australia. Though cases that have applied in March have in majority received their invitations

have you checked your email? maybe it got in some folder. Let me know

[astral jolt]

Firefly is web based not a discord bot prompting comes after you get invited, on site https://firefly.adobe.com/

[astral jolt]

you cannot use generators before being accepted to Beta

[astral jolt]

That sometimes may happen with some of the prompts usually to me when prompts are being a bit undefined. Can you share a prompt you were trying?

[rancid maple]

how long does it take?

[astral jolt]

We tend not to give closer estimates of a timeframe. As for now it varies from within a month to up over a month due to huge influx of people that have made requests.

[mint flame]

"a fairy in a dark mystic wood" is my example

[astral jolt]

it may be that you have internet problems. check your lan/wi fi and try again

[prisma linden]

hi guys where do i enter my prompt? is it here on discord or in the firefly beta?

[astral jolt]

@ripe wasp Firefly is web based not a discord bot prompting comes after you get invited, on site https://firefly.adobe.com/

[astral jolt]

read above

[prisma linden]

i've got invited now i'd like to try it out 🙂

thanks!

[astral jolt]

you have to go on site, log in and use some of the generators

[prisma linden]

🙂

[shrewd tulip]

hello everyone, i'm new at this. I want to create an image but I couldn't figure out how to do it. Where should I write the keywords?

[astral jolt]

this tour with Terry may help you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdo58HZM7zs

[vague zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1110118807604842549/1110118864479588362/Congratulations-on-graduation-free-image.jpg please edit happy smile

[shrewd tulip]

🙏 thank you

[astral jolt]

Firefly is web based not a discord bot prompting comes after you get invited, on site https://firefly.adobe.com/

@raven sluice read above this post ^

[bitter turtle]

/imagine thank banner

[slender oar]

Photorealistic Jerusalem 2000 years ago at sunset

[bitter turtle]

indian boy

[lone rose]

@bitter turtle @slender oar Firefly is not a Discord bot, prompting is browser based. Request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/.
For more information about, and how to use Firefly please read the #faq channel.

[bitter turtle]

layered paper galaxy|

[astral jolt]

read above your post

[tulip nexus]

Chanakya photo hd

[lone rose]

Firefly is not a Discord bot, prompting is browser based. Request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/.
For more information about, and how to use Firefly please read the #faq channel.

[tulip nexus]

chanakya

[ornate jay]

digital ai concepts

[lone rose]

Firefly is not a Discord bot, prompting is browser based. Request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/.
For more information about, and how to use Firefly please read the #faq channel.

[noble bear]

polaroid camera

[lone rose]

please read my message above yours

[ocean pond]

Do not post random GIFs.

[lone rose]

Morning Shawn

[ocean pond]

Good morning, Gareth!

[austere bough]

Morning shawn and gareth

[ocean pond]

Good morning

[lone rose]

Morning Kingpin

[dense oxide]

hi

theres no extension/plugin for adobe programs yet right?

[dark ice]

GM Adobe Firefly!

[ocean pond]

correct.

[dense oxide]

I cant wait for text to vector, this is gonna be huge

[acoustic umbra]

a milk make in the house😆

[lone rose]

Firefly is not a Discord bot, prompting is browser based. Request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/.
For more information about, and how to use Firefly please read the #faq channel.

[subtle path]

can I use for color grading my videos

when would I be able to?

[ocean pond]

When/If it comes out.

[wooden granite]

bear playing a double bass, hyperrealistic.

[keen mason]

@wooden granite Adobe Firefly is not a Discord bot, please check out the instructions in the #faq channel to get started

[wooden granite]

welding gloves holding a peony

[ocean pond]

Please use #archived-share-your-work-3-23-to-11-23

[wooden granite]

Could someone with access could help me creating this prompt please? 😊
bear playing a double bass

[ocean pond]

Please. do not ask people to do your prompts. They will if they feel like it.

[ocean pond]

Or Join me later. https://discord.com/events/1076190214369853510/1108780794228506706

[lone rose]

@wind cosmos Please refrian from posting gifs without context, thanks

[mental python]

A captivating image depicting a professional setting with people engaged in a conversation

How soon can i get the access to try this @lone rose

[lone rose]

it is difficult to give precise estimates, but you are looking at having to wait for around 3 weeks+ for access to be granted from when you made the request. hope this helps

[spice yew]

Hi all, how long did you have to wait to be accepted ? I've sent my request through 3 days ago & again today. Thank you

[lone rose]

see my post above yours

[spice yew]

Got it brother thanks.

This doesn't work the same as midjourney ? Is there a gallery to see everyones generated art ?

[lone rose]

no it doesn't work like midjourney, once signed in you make prompts in the browser

The #archived-share-your-work-3-23-to-11-23 channel is where you will see work created by other users

[mental python]

Okay got you

[untold hare]

iphone Display crack repair Instagram post

[lone rose]

Firefly is not a Discord bot, prompting is browser based. Request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/.
For more information about, and how to use Firefly please read the #faq channel.

[runic zealot]

Damn, this was the shortest day chat I've had to read through when coming on 💀

[alpine carbon]

How do I access firefly Beta?

[lone rose]

@alpine carbon I assume you have requested access at https://firefly.adobe.com/ if so then you need to wait until you get the YOU'RE IN! e-mail, from there you need to login at the same web page, using the e-mail address you used to sign up. This MUST also be the primary e-mail associated with your Adobe ID, once logged in click on any of the buttons that say generate and start prompting in the browser as it is a web app, not a discord prompt bot. For more information about, and how to use Firefly read the #faq and #tips-and-tricks channels.

[alpine carbon]

Thanks

[lone rose]

You're welcome

[scarlet terrace]

How long does it take to get accepted for the beta?

[ocean pond]

It should be about 3 weeks.

Do not post random GIFs.

[scarlet terrace]

Thank you!

[dim crane]

welcome

[sudden salmon]

"We Are Well" healthy and sporty vibe

[keen mason]

@wooden granite Adobe Firefly is not a Discord bot, please check out the instructions in the #faq channel to get started

[cursive wing]

#faq An 8-year-old child who is negatively affected by the earthquake.

[ocean pond]

Read the post right above yours.

[lament carbon]

Girl Hostel

[keen mason]

@lament carbon Adobe Firefly is not a Discord bot, please check out the instructions in the #faq channel to get started

[lament carbon]

welding gloves holding a peony

[runic zealot]

🤦‍♀️

[ocean pond]

Take a hint please. Read the above post.

[lament carbon]

walking boys in garden creat images

[ocean pond]

uh, is there a problem?

[keen mason]

@lament carbon Adobe Firefly is not a Discord bot, please check out the instructions in the #faq channel to get started

[ocean pond]

STOP

[lament carbon]

top health tips

[ocean pond]

Hey there, Firefly is not a Discord bot, you need to request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/. For more information about, and how to use Firefly please read the #faq

[lone rose]

@atomic tundra I have answered you in this channel as it is for general chat, the other channnel is for sharing of images made with Firefly, You say you have requested access at https://firefly.adobe.com/ if so then you need to wait until you get the YOU'RE IN! e-mail, from there you need to login at the same web page, using the e-mail address you used to sign up. ***This MUST also be the primary e-mail associated with your Adobe ID, ***once logged in click on any of the buttons that say generate and start prompting in the browser as it is a web app, not a discord prompt bot. For more information about, and how to use Firefly read the #faq and #tips-and-tricks channels.

[vocal yew]

A man with camera eye

[lone rose]

Firefly is not a Discord bot, prompting is browser based. Request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/.
For more information about, and how to use Firefly please read the #faq channel.

[vocal yew]

I already got access from firefly and i accepted the invite link by adobe . It directs me to install discord.

[honest quiver]

you're clicking on the discord link then in the upper right, you need to click on "generate" below one of the modules farther down on the page like Gareth said @vocal yew #community-chat message

[lone rose]

Click one of these on the web page @vocal yew

Hi jack btw

[still kite]

Hello i have applied for request access but not granted right now

[rocky sparrow]

hello

[fossil dock]

@still kite when you applied for it?

[still kite]

Applied 3 days ago

[fossil dock]

Well i got it's access in 3 days but mostly it's 3 weeks to 1 month

[still kite]

Ohh

[fossil dock]

What's your country?

[still kite]

Pakistan

[fossil dock]

I am from India and people from India getting it a lot faster most of the people i saw got in very less days like under a week idk why

[still kite]

i have seen that adobe bring most advance technology in Ai

[fossil dock]

Yes

[still kite]

lets see how much time will take

[fossil dock]

See these

[still kite]

Amazing

[fossil dock]

Thanks you must be patient to get it be patient

Wait for atleast an week

You will get it sooner because team is working very hard

So it might take some time.

[still kite]

yes exactly. lots of user applied for access

[fossil dock]

Yes

[still kite]

Thanks for your guidance

[tender spade]

pets reading a book

[keen mason]

@tender spade Adobe Firefly is not a Discord bot, please check out the instructions in the #faq channel to get started

[fossil dock]

No problem

@still kite is there any other question in which may i help you?

[still kite]

Thank you so much

[fossil dock]

Your welcome

[still kite]

After getting access i will discuss with you. hopefully you will be available

[fossil dock]

Yes sure i am always here

You can DM me

Wait are you in mobile?

[still kite]

Yes

Ok

[fossil dock]

Are you using a mobile device?

[still kite]

yes

[fossil dock]

You should check

[still kite]

What ?

[fossil dock]

Wait

https://firefly.adobe.com/

Check here

@still kite

[still kite]

Adobe Home page

[fossil dock]

Yes

Take a look there

[still kite]

i see lot of Ai imagines

[fossil dock]

Can you please share me screenshot

@still kite

[fossil dock]

Congratulations you got it's access!

Check your email where you got an email of you're in

[ocean pond]

Maybe it is time to take this private.

[fossil dock]

Wdym?

[ocean pond]

DM

[fluid salmon]

Hi all. When will I get full access to adobe firefly?

[fossil dock]

When you applied for Adobe Firefly?@fluid salmon

@still kite you should refresh the page to get the search bar

[still kite]

Not yet

[fossil dock]

@still kite you already got it's access

[still kite]

not yet received any email

[fossil dock]

No need

First go to Firefly text to image option

[gloomy jolt]

Just because he can see the gallery doesnt mean he has access

[still kite]

Yes i just see galary

[gloomy jolt]

i dont know what you are saying

[fossil dock]

Oh you watched that gallery

[gloomy jolt]

wait for the email, thats all you have to do.

[fossil dock]

I thought you got that

[still kite]

Ok

[fossil dock]

Can you show your Firefly page?

@still kite

By screenshot?

[wooden granite]

How to get access

[astral jolt]

By requesting an access on site https://firefly.adobe.com/ make sure you have adobe account associated or you may have issues accessing later on

[astral jolt]

what do you mean by full access?

[celest flame]

will AI eventually be able to generate full movies?

[pine stirrup]

maybe, depends on how the world of artificial intelligence evolves over the next few years. movie generation is still quite computationally expensive

[half tulip]

Global Greetings! Anyone know what the wait time looks like? I have a paid subscription since years and just requested access.

[wooden granite]

how long after signing up does one have to wait until they get access to the beta ?

[pine stirrup]

@half tulip currently the average wait time is a couple of weeks. but stay tuned for any updates from #announcements 🙂

@wooden granite ^ see above 🙂

[half tulip]

thanks @pine stirrup

[umbral belfry]

/imagin A cat wearing glasses reading newspapers in the bathroom realistic, 8k, cinematic,

[keen mason]

@umbral belfry Adobe Firefly is not a Discord bot, please check out the instructions in the #faq channel to get started

[umbral belfry]

/gip query: A cat wearing glasses reading newspapers in the bathroom realistic, 8k, cinematic,

[ocean pond]

READ the post above yours, please.

[severe pawn]

People see an Ai discord and they think it’s Midjourney

[ocean pond]

I would think if it did not work the first time, why keep trying.

[severe pawn]

Nobody reads the server info either lmaoo

[austere bough]

That doesnt depends on the AI then but on computing technology

[fluid sable]

will we surpass or catch up with midjourney 5 in the future ?

[ocean pond]

Come join me soon! https://discord.com/events/1076190214369853510/1108780794228506706

[cinder mountain]

Oh nice, a prompt workshop

[glacial basin]

/gip query: A letti wearing glasses reading newspapers in the bathroom realistic, 8k, cinematic,

😆

[astral jolt]

@wooden granite By requesting an access on site https://firefly.adobe.com/ make sure you have adobe account associated or you may have issues accessing later on

[raven thistle]

any news about the text to Video AI ?

[astral jolt]

no, no speculations we heard yet

[fluid salmon]

Let me try again

[wooden granite]

Mumbai city snow fall

[astral jolt]

Firefly is web based not a discord bot prompting comes after you get invited, on site https://firefly.adobe.com/

[fluid salmon]

Thanks @still kite

[lament crag]

any news on out-painting? adding more generative frames around an output?

or just a general timeline of features?

[hollow shard]

It's been serval weeks and still nothing fro adobe...anyone get access yet.

[cinder mountain]

Had a slow connection

Was fun

[ocean pond]

Thanks, everyone!

[lone rose]

Sorry we had a food delivery turn up just after you started

[hot sparrow]

hi

[lone rose]

I will now go a put all the food away in the cupboards, freezer and fridge lol

[maiden mural]

Thanks for your time! A lot of cooks in the kitchen, but I took a lot away from everyones input!

[runic zealot]

@ocean pond @signal yarrow Sorry for ping, but just tested something.

If I say photo of a man and women wearing (Clothing) [No mention of glasses] (Action) (Describe Environment), (Photo info), [Then at the back of the prompt say:] Man wearing glasses

I get 4/4 consistent results of just the man wearing glasses. Please note that the prompt contains no actual brackets and the brackets are just to describe the prompt here on disc

[maiden mural]

Nice!

[signal yarrow]

nice!

[ocean pond]

Trying!

[signal yarrow]

Cool to see the prompt syntax laid out like that

[runic zealot]

I wanted to try that since firefly puts less emphasis on the last parts of a prompt, so I figured if it is in the first part of the prompt it will apply to both characters, but if it is in the final part it will then only apply it to one and that turned out to be correct

[ocean pond]

No luck.

[runic zealot]

What prompt are you using Shawn?

Also, simple straightforward prompts seem to be interpreted differently

After about 1.5 lines, things that come after that have less weight

[maiden mural]

photo of a man and woman reading books in the park, Man wearing glasses

[runic zealot]

That will be too short

[maiden mural]

2/4 showing

[runic zealot]

It will still apply the man wearing glasses to most of the image

[maiden mural]

gotcha.. so add more to setting or what they are wearing... or both?

[runic zealot]

Still getting it

[runic zealot]

I added roses and berries while describing the background

And also the sun glare cuz it was part of the previous prompt I was testing

Entire prompt is about 2 lines long

AND YES, PROMPT LENGTH DOES AFFECT HOW FIREFLY INTERPRETS PROMPTS AFTER A CERTAIN LENGHT

[maiden mural]

photo of a man and woman in flannel pajamas reading books at a picnic under a live oak with hanging spanish moss, there is a lake with ducks swimming in the background, Man wearing glasses

3/4

getting closer!

[river stirrup]

Hi everyone, i just need a small clarification, how many days does it take to get the mail ???

[runic zealot]

I wouldn't phrase it like that but yes that will get you closer since the length is what matters in regards to the glasses

[maiden mural]

how would you adjust?

[maiden mural]

how would you adjust phrasing?

[lone rose]

it is difficult to give a precise estimate, but be prepared to wait around 3 weeks+ for access to be granted

[maiden mural]

I received in ~ 4 weeks

[runic zealot]

Give me a few minutes I'm preparing bottles

[wild estuary]

photo of burger

[lone rose]

@hearty nova please refrain from posting gifs, thanks

[runic zealot]

Razor on the other hand is an uhh expert at simple promoting

[wooden granite]

I've found get the key elements in place first, then add the rest as you can, an economy of words overall is key.

[runic zealot]

In that case firefly will interpret the place as the main subject

And razor you know what the uh is for 😂 😂 😂

[hearty nova]

hi im new to this.. i dont understand what you told just now

[gloomy jolt]

he said dont post gifs

[wooden granite]

I am an expert at nothing .save perhaps unexpected results 🙂

[reef dragon]

Can we send sticker? 😮

[hearty nova]

oh thanks and is this only for photos?

[wooden granite]

uh yes I do lol

[gloomy jolt]

we only post photos we make with Firefly

[runic zealot]

As a note, I disagree with the commonly held notion of keeping prompts simple

As proof, see my work in the appropriate channel

[river stirrup]

Thx

[lone rose]

posting gifs from giphy or elsewhere without context is not permitted in the server as mods we are trying to help people constantly in here and gifs popping up can mean we may miss a question

[hearty nova]

oh okay i understood thank you..

[wooden granite]

An economy of works wasn't meant to say simple but rather say as many things as you can as precisely as you can before it's not paying anymore attention to you.

[reef dragon]

Okay so I think, Stickers are too big, as well 👀

[hearty nova]

okay thank you i understood..

[wild marsh]

Hello everyone! I am new so just trying to catch up on what's going on.

[severe pawn]

Prompts are becoming novel lengths but say the same thing over and over again, most of the time you can edit it down and get the same or better results

[wooden granite]

I will note that as for myself, sometimes I'm not looking for the words to describe what I'm visualizing in my mind, but rather I'm looking to see what Firefly will do with a short phrase or idea, that's not really an image description at all.

[wild marsh]

😀 I'm going to have to check with you all later. Bye

[severe pawn]

Right and in the same way if your prompt is to simple it’s not going to have enough to go on. The Ai isn’t using its imagination lol to come up with the image, it needs the prompt it can understand to guide it.

Although simple prompts can be fun for brainstorming ideas

[wooden granite]

See some of my posts from the weekend to get an idea of where I let abstract images be generated from phrases that didn't describe a picture. And my apologies in advance, some of them were admittedly a little dark in their nature.

[severe pawn]

I saw the aliens

🤣🤣

[runic zealot]

It is paying attention, but it will put less weight on some kinds of prompts after a certain length

[wooden granite]

#archived-share-your-work-3-23-to-11-23 message and #archived-share-your-work-3-23-to-11-23 message and #archived-share-your-work-3-23-to-11-23 message

[runic zealot]

And also, yeah you see that I work exclusively with ultra-realism

And yes I can guess exactly which images you are reffering to 😛

But in my case, unlike Shawn who also says he likes to use firefly as a sort of inspiration

I don't

I want firefly to give me exactly what I want

And then I figure out how to get it

[wooden granite]

But that's what makes it a great tool, it works very nicely for both of us.

[runic zealot]

Exactly, both sides of the coin 😄

But take the whole thing that I know after a certain length it puts less emphasis on thigs

Doesn't seem like allot of people know that

But I instead learn how to use that lower weighted prompts and prompt position to my advantage

To get what I want

[wooden granite]

yep which is why I always get the most important parts first.

[runic zealot]

Can a mod please remove this one

[wooden granite]

Well I think a lot of folks are coming from a MidJourney mindset, and a lot of things in that space don't work here.

[severe pawn]

I don’t have Firefly yet so I’m not sure but does it let you use brackets to put weight on certain prompts?

[runic zealot]

Last I heard, adding weights can't be done manually

And adding brackets just make it try to rended the brackets into the image 😂

[severe pawn]

Lmao nice

[runic zealot]

But as I've said, weights can be used by adjusting the position of your prompt

[severe pawn]

Okay yeah that makes sense.

Just put the important details first

[runic zealot]

@maiden mural Hey sorry, the prompt is done quite well, sorry I was pretty busy and sorta misread it

[maiden mural]

No worries

[lament crag]

all details are important - that's why we put them in the prompt. issue is that the 'adjectives' seem to float around the prompt as it decides to amend them to whatever 'noun' it wants (at times).

so a way to 'weigh' or 'group' specific adjectives to specific nouns would be great!

[runic zealot]

I've been to lazy to bother to learn what is and isn't a noun and adjective (Only way you'll realise English isn't my first language)

But try to put the location within the first 1-1.5 lines

Any action prompts tend to be recognised

Either way, that's why I say weighted

It's not that the later parts of the prompt are ignored or unimportant

[lament crag]

agree. actions seem to be recognized pretty well and it does pick up later parts of prompts. I've just noticed repeatedly certain descriptive words applied to other parts of the prompt, regardless of placement

[runic zealot]

If you put location information later in the prompt tho you are much likelier to get a bare, badly rendered background

[wooden granite]

I've even tried constructing the prompt as short sentences to try and keep ideas grouped, and still see descriptors applied outside the sentence they were provided in.

[lament crag]

ie: brown bear standing next to a wet purple dog. I've noticed putting 'wet' in there makes the entire scene rain or the bear is wet, in a river, etc, etc. but not just a simple wet dog heh... and then colors of things get tossed around as well

[runic zealot]

Try the same thing as with above

And try and put wet dog

at the end and see what happens

[runic zealot]

Note: It won't work with a prompt that short

[wooden granite]

brown bear standing next to a purple dog. The dog is wet. as @lament crag noted the whole mess is wet.

[runic zealot]

Read what I said further up in chat

Either of you two read what I said earlier about prompt lenght 😛

[severe pawn]

I’d maybe try to specify the fur of the dog being wet

[runic zealot]

It only starts to weight after about 1.5 lines

Okay lemme check this with a longer prompt

May or may not work but will find a way to make it work

[wooden granite]

brown bear standing next to a purple dog at the edge of a woodland lake in spring. The dog is wet. The dog was neither wet nor purple.

[cedar sphinx]

/imagine

[runic zealot]

Not gonna bother with the purple dog

It's a pain to get that done realistically

[astral jolt]

@violet lantern Firefly is web based not a discord bot prompting comes after you get invited, on site https://firefly.adobe.com/

[honest quiver]

@cedar sphinx see the above post #community-chat message

[runic zealot]

Okaay

[lone rose]

back shopping put away now nothing for the freezer defrosted phew

[runic zealot]

So it makes both dogs

Just one big dog

That's now wet

And one dry small dog

[wooden granite]

Prompting is a very inexact science that you end up developing a feel for the things that get you what you want.

[runic zealot]

That's why I'm saying 😄

[lament crag]

i agree but some of this seems like basic stuff..

[runic zealot]

One wet dog and one dry dog...no idea what happened to the bear

I think the right one was supposed to be a bear

[astral jolt]

what was the prompt?

[severe pawn]

Bear dog!!

[astral jolt]

I mean originally

[wooden granite]

One dog imagines himself to be a bear.

[runic zealot]

Something aboutt

A bear and a wet purple dog

But Im just not gonna bother making a purple dog

[lament crag]

i've also noticed adding extra limbs to be kinda problematic. ie: brown bear with 4 arms and 4 legs holding fish in a river.

[wooden granite]

@runic zealot reminds me of trying to put a picture of a bear on the side of an airplane earlier

[runic zealot]

@astral jolt brown bear standing next to a wet purple dog

[runic zealot]

That must have been torture for you tho

[severe pawn]

Does Firefly have negative prompts?

[runic zealot]

Nope

[runic zealot]

Extra limbs, heads and tails, been trying to figure that out, havn't found anything yet

But promise if I do I'll share

[severe pawn]

It might have negative prompts running In the background to prevent that

[runic zealot]

Still wet beardog

[severe pawn]

It might actually be trying to make a Bear Dog

The breed

[runic zealot]

ROFL I think so xD

[severe pawn]

Try a polar bear lol

[runic zealot]

Well it does seem to work tbh

[cinder mountain]

They both like to swim 😄

[severe pawn]

Yeah that’s very close

[cinder mountain]

Oh one bear and one dog, dog is wet?

[runic zealot]

I think the main issue here is it trying so hard to make the beardog

[runic zealot]

Jup not both

But in the end I think it proves my point

That adding the dog is wet part at the end

WITH A LONG ENOUGH PROMPT

work

s

[severe pawn]

Yep

[formal girder]

can any one make a realistic baby image using AI tool

[runic zealot]

Yes but last I checked its gonna be hard

[wooden granite]

A brown bear is standing next to a purple dog. they are the edge of a woodland lake. The purple dog is soaking wet. to your point @runic zealot the wet bit goes last.

[urban tendon]

so can't wait to get access

[runic zealot]

It just gets confused

[severe pawn]

That bear dog looks sad lmao

[runic zealot]

It climbed a tree looking for honey

The branch broke and it fell into the water

and he lost the honey

[wooden granite]

And when it comes to pick your choice of "nope that's just wrong"

[runic zealot]

Tbh colour is something firefly can struggle with

That is genuinly something that's better to do in photoshop

[wooden granite]

But Barney the dinasaur?

[severe pawn]

Number 3 🤣🤣🤣

[runic zealot]

Yeah that bear needs to look more confused

Either way, may be a way to keep the bear a bear cba atm

• As a note, what I said about prompt weights may not work tomorrow, because WHENEVER I SAY ANYTHING IN CHAT ADOBE CHANGES THAT THE NEXT DAY

[wooden granite]

4 attempts and only 1 dog in my opinion

[runic zealot]

Gareth allready heard me rant about it xD

[lone rose]

Patience padawan patience 😜

[urban tendon]

a virtue I've never had lol

[runic zealot]

SITH!!!!

[reef dragon]

Try with "Pixel Art" 😄

[lone rose]

I'm not saying anything

[astral jolt]

@runic zealot was it pink or purple?

[runic zealot]

It was purple

But that's actually nicely done Katarina

[wooden granite]

At this point the color doesn't matter you solved the problem!

[severe pawn]

DOG LOOKOUT!!! A BEAR BEHIND YOU!!

[runic zealot]

She didn't get a bear dog, that's a win allready

[cedar sphinx]

Change this into AI art

[reef dragon]

DANGER! The dog is Chuck Norris.

[runic zealot]

Looks like him yes

[astral jolt]

Firefly is web based not a discord bot prompting comes after you get invited, on site https://firefly.adobe.com/

[severe pawn]

That’s just Ai image generation tools in general now. Everything you knew about using Stable Diffusion two weeks ago is now outdated

[runic zealot]

• Is still on SD 1.5

But yeah no joke, I give some kind of guide in chat then in a few hours from now its just changed

[severe pawn]

“Oh you’re still generating images? It’s all about video and animation now”

[twin kestrel]

I just wish we will have a plugin build into photoshop so we can use firefly directly there

[severe pawn]

Isn’t that the goal?

[twin kestrel]

yep

[runic zealot]

It is planned to have it integrated into photoshop

[twin kestrel]

but I am waiting for this for long time 🙂

[twin kestrel]

yes I know also on illustrator

[lone rose]

you have already been told this but Firefly is not a Discord bot, prompting is browser based. Request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/.
For more information about, and how to use Firefly please read the #faq channel.

[fathom cipher]

@twin kestrel patience my dear friend, patience.

[twin kestrel]

it will be great, but I do think that people that have access to firefly can already start beta testing a plug

[runic zealot]

Perhaps later in the Beta

[twin kestrel]

waiting patiently 😉

[severe pawn]

Yeah that’s what I’m really interested in. I do photography I’d really like to see how Ai can help with editing

[runic zealot]

It seems like all the mods have decided to be Jedi Masters today

Cept for Shawn who's the Dark Lord

's apprentice

Since Tim is "Evil"

[twin kestrel]

Also the future things that will be added to the web site sounds super interesting

[fathom cipher]

@runic zealot I will accept that as a compliment.

[runic zealot]

As long as no one starts talking like Yoda

[lone rose]

@runic zealot Always two there are

[runic zealot]

Omw

💀

GARETHHH

🤣

[fathom cipher]

@runic zealot There is no try; there is only do

[runic zealot]

No comment

[half tulip]

uh huh

any of y'all getting D IV?

Oh, Adobe Corporation, the mighty force in the realm of digital creativity. They've got their hands on all the flashy toys, dictating the rules of the game, and making everyone else dance to their tune.

Their products are like some kind of sorcery, turning ordinary folks into digital wizards. They've created a playground for the imaginative souls, where they can sprinkle their magic dust and bring their visions to life. And they've become the go-to gang for anyone who wants to make some noise in the creative realm.

[wild drum]

I prompted a no no

[daring sonnet]

Hi everyone. I’ve got a problem. I have already been in beta testing for a month, but now I have a problem that my access is denied, firefly is not available in my region. May be someone has any thought how to proceed in beta testing. Thank you in advance.

[runic zealot]

I don't understand

[half tulip]

Where exactly do you hail from, young man? In which region were you birthed and bred? Speak up, and let your origins be known. The community demands to know.

[severe pawn]

Now if only Adobe tools had better UI I’d agree LMAO

[wild drum]

Me neither, and if I try to click replace it just pops up again 😅

[lone rose]

try moving the position of the artist in the prompt

[wild drum]

It worked! Ty

Idk if this is Caravaggio tho 😂

googles caravaggio paintings

[runic zealot]

Mayb3 it's someone

[lone rose]

Hey there does this apply to you #announcements message

[austere bough]

You sure the artist is in public domain?

[daring sonnet]

One of the worst

[wild drum]

Apperently Caravaggio painted a lot of violent paintings

[wild drum]

He was a renaicanse artist, only one I remembered that wasnt like da vinci

[severe pawn]

Depends on what firefly was trained on

[wild drum]

He used a lot of contrast, so maybe it was 1600s

[austere bough]

Seeing your nick I am guessing rusia?

[runic zealot]

Whaaaat

[austere bough]

Was that a bad guess? 😅

[daring sonnet]

Thanks

[gloomy jolt]

Caravaggio is on adobe stock

[austere bough]

Not everything from adobe stock is used for training

[daring sonnet]

Belarus(

[gloomy jolt]

i see

[austere bough]

Oeps but ye the countries inside belarus are not supported

[wild drum]

I mean I like the results, but its not giving me Caravaggio or baroque 😅

[severe pawn]

VPN work? If you’re denied based on location?

[real grotto]

I'm trying lots of the most famous artists from the last 800 years and the results aren't really showing the style of those artists, even if I add keywords that match their famous paintings (like monet + pond)

[daring sonnet]

with vpn there is only new request for beta test instead logging in

[gloomy jolt]

i did monet and got good results

[wild drum]

Yes, I had to add keywords to get it closer. Would be nice to see the AI trained a little more on artists and styles

[real grotto]

I'll keep fiddling it seems if I keep the prompt to one word + artist last name it's a bit better

[wild drum]

Yes I tried two teddybears hugging and it got a lot better when I just used teddybear

[fallen river]

what is in exploration mean?

[lone rose]

that the team is exploring the feature and we may see it released during the beta phase depending on how it goes

[fathom cipher]

@wild drum Its so exciting to see you trying all these variations. Thats the purpose of the beta. Going forward, Adobe will be working on all the things folks are proposing. Rest assured, this is a first step, not a finished product.

[unreal moss]

hi

[long sigil]

Can you make a ai image for me

[celest stag]

a cat

[keen mason]

@celest stag Adobe Firefly is not a Discord bot, please check out the instructions in the #faq channel to get started

[severe pawn]

Are you specifying that they are paintings or illustrations?

[real grotto]

I've tried mentioning the art style in the prompt (like pointillism, impressionism) as well as clicking different styles on the side to see if it would help being painting/oil painting/watercolor/baroque

[severe pawn]

Okay I just say that because in MidJourney you get much more accurate results if you specify things like (oil painting, classical art, brush strokes)

[real grotto]

When I get a chance, I'll have to take a stroll through adobe stock images to see what keywords they might be pulling for Firefly

[severe pawn]

Good idea

Midjourney gives me this with these prompts

A beautiful woman lounging on a bed, eating grapes, over looking an ancient harbor, Caravaggio, baroque --s 750 --v 5.1 - @severe pawn (fast)

Vs

A Caravaggio style painting, baroque art of A beautiful woman lounging on a bed, eating grapes, over looking an ancient harbor, oil painting, brush strokes, classical art. --s 750 --v 5.1 - @severe pawn (fast)

[wild drum]

The difference is that MJ doesnt care about IP, Firefly is made with the material Adobe has rights too, so firefly’s gonna need a little more time to become great

[severe pawn]

Yes exactly

Although that will limit the output ability for a bit it’s going to be much better for publishing

[wild drum]

Yes and when its live out of beta we dont need to worry about copyright

[rocky bone]

how can i start

[wild drum]

Read the #faq its all there

[wooden granite]

paint a manchester united walpaper winning title

[keen mason]

@wooden granite Adobe Firefly is not a Discord bot, please check out the instructions in the #faq channel to get started

[severe pawn]

That’s something that im really interested in with firefly. Because copyright laws are going to become big in the Ai world I think

No one knows how to deal with it just yet because it’s so new

[wild drum]

Yes and theres quiet a few people pissed off because AI has been trained on their material without compensation or their knowledge

And just like, say you make a picture for a facebook ad in firefly. Its great knowing you dont unintentionally use someone elses stuff

I’m also excited to see how adobe will handle personal information as uploading your own pictures becomes available. Will the result be rendered locally or centrally. How they plan to comply with EUs GDPR. Etc etc. Facebook was fined $1.3m today from the EU for selling personal information fex

[runic zealot]

Gonna have to say that I don't think someone should be compensated for ai being trained on their work

[severe pawn]

Yeah I’m not sure, running imagine generating Ai is pretty taxing on a system. As cool a local tool would be you’d need a really good setup to generate anything highress

[wild drum]

Lets say you produce flour and sell that, shouldn’t the baker pay for using your flour?

[runic zealot]

But if I learn to make the flour?

Should I constantly commision to the ones I learnt from? Or to any, say for example youtubers who's videos I watched to learn it from?

[severe pawn]

That’s why it’s so tricky. Copyright laws are very confusing

[runic zealot]

Let's be clear here Stian, I'm not saying AI should copy artists work. In this whole "In the style of" which midjourney just includes artists without their permission, that shouldn't be allowed

[wild drum]

Youtubers are compensated tho, and the terms are accepted by the creator. When you put a picture on your website you havent accepted the use for AI training

[runic zealot]

But learning how to do something, shouldn't be limited, but copying an artists exactly or their style without consent, yeah, that is imo the issue

[runic zealot]

Yet anything thats ever uploaded to the internet is basically there forever, and far more public than most realise

[severe pawn]

The real problem is when someone starts making money off it

[wild drum]

Yes I agree to that

[runic zealot]

And the same thing, even if you see a piece of art, chances are, as an artist, you will likely take inspiration or learn something from that art, even if the artist hasn't sold the piece of art to you or given you the right to get inspiration from it

Learning from something doesn't breach copywrite imo, but copying and reproducing it exactly, that shouldn't be done

[wild drum]

But its a much more direct way of using someones IP to make money yourself

Its not inspired work, you’re putting their work through your AI

[runic zealot]

No, not as long as you don't allow for someone to "In the style of Mr. Bigglesworth"

Unless ofc, Mr. Biggelsworth has allowed you, or in that case you've compensated Mr. Bigglesworth in order to copy their exact style

Also, Mr. Bigglesworth is propably from some game or something I can't remember rn

[wild drum]

I like the name

[runic zealot]

Oh, Kel'Thuzad's cat

[wooden granite]

And now Adobe will sell add-ins that allow you to use in the "Bigglesworth style" and Bigglesworth is paid as well. 🙂

[lone rose]

1 letter off my real name lol

[toxic heron]

represent visualy a personalized and targeted campaigns

[runic zealot]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/wowpedia/images/e/ea/Mr._Bigglesworth_HS.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160325090412

This is Mr. Bigglesworth, look at it? Maybe it inspires you to make somethign similar, or you find something in this piece of art that you can learn from?

Uh ikd who made this, but let's say Blizzard, you gonna pay them compensasion?

[runic zealot]

Well yes, I did raise that idea before that Artists can create sets, and sell their styles as add ins for firefly in the same way as presets are sold

[wild drum]

Thats inspiration, if it where too similar it would be stealing

[lone rose]

Firefly is not a Discord bot, prompting is browser based. Request access at https://firefly.adobe.com/.
For more information about, and how to use Firefly please read the #faq channel.

[wild drum]

Also I would produce it myself, not just copy paste into photoshop

[runic zealot]

Exactly, but just learning from something wouldn't produce too similar results

I.e. Ai learning from it, just allows the ai to draw inspiration from it. As I've said multiple times, I do not approve of copying

[wild drum]

But how would you make sure the AI didnt produce that exact same cat in a prompt?

[severe pawn]

Say you generate an image and you use that image in an Ad so you start making money from it. The image looks very similar to a “Bigglesworth” painting but you didn’t know that you didn’t put that In your prompt. The original artist see this and goes after you for stealing their work. You didn’t know about Bigglesworth but the Ai tool you used was trained on it so that’s where it got the info for

[runic zealot]

What's that artist you couldn't include in your prompt earlier?

[runic zealot]

Well take as an example, it's a cat, there are many cats

A cat + blue eyes != Bigglesworth

[wild drum]

I had issues with Caravaggio, but that could be that the sample was too small or me using the wrong prompt #archived-share-your-work-3-23-to-11-23 message

[runic zealot]

But that is just an example, you exclude names such as that

Make prompts such as Mr. Bigglesworth meaningless or block it

[severe pawn]

Sure you can definitely argue out of it and you’d probably be fine. But if that kinda stuff starts happening enough legislation will follow

[wooden granite]

Today's courts are ill-prepared to deal with the potential issues that can arise in this space. You're going to need to see some actual litigation, and worse yet what's allowed in one country may be illegal in another.

[runic zealot]

Regulation is good, but as in every case, overregulation is bad too

Find a balance

Just like in this

[severe pawn]

Yeah I’m worried about the over reaction lol

[runic zealot]

Extreme points of view even if you think its the "Good" point of view is never good

Balance

[severe pawn]

Well Firefly is a good response giving you the ability to generate images you have licensed to use

[wild drum]

Yes thats what I like about firefly compared to mj

[runic zealot]

And yet they themselves are making the situation worse by doing that

[wild drum]

You know its okey to use

[runic zealot]

And at the same time things like midjourney is making it worse by insisting on using modern artists names

It's just stirring up trouble

And as I said, focussing on the learning side of the argument is imo missing the point

[severe pawn]

Agreed I use MJ because it’s a smart tool for generating quality photos very quickly. But I don’t publish anything I generate it’s for me

[runic zealot]

Regardless of whether you publish it or not

I think few artists would appreciate you using their name or just copying their personal style without permission

[severe pawn]

I like SD because it’s a lot more technical and in-depth

[runic zealot]

The real issue isn't what has been learnt from, but copying, or as stian put it "Stealing" which is quite accurate in the sense of just copying a style or piece of art

[runic zealot]

Well that I do agree on, but its a bit much for some people to learn

[lone rose]

@wise spire I am answering you in here as it is for genreral chat and the other channel is reserved for images made with Firefly.

I assume you have requested access at https://firefly.adobe.com/ if so then you need to wait until you get the YOU'RE IN! e-mail, from there you need to login at the same web page, using the e-mail address you used to sign up. *** This MUST also be the primary e-mail associated with your Adobe ID,*** once logged in click on any of the buttons that say generate and start prompting in the browser as it is a web app, not a discord prompt bot. For more information about, and how to use Firefly read the #faq and #tips-and-tricks channels.

[wild drum]

Like all artists steal, I think its very rare today to come up with something completely new (that works)

[runic zealot]

True but getting something extremely similiar would still be copying and very likely not fair to the original artist

[wild drum]

Yes

Inspiration vs copy+paste really

[runic zealot]

I am not against artists trying to protect their identity, I am simply saying that both sides have a fair stance and result without going to extremes

[severe pawn]

Yes, and copying isn’t necessary wrong. It would be wrong to publish something that is a copy and claiming it’s yours

Kinda like making a cover of a song

[runic zealot]

Take as an example, if you prompt a duck, that duck is fine, no worries you can use it

Now, I'm not sure if they've changed this now

But it used to be

If you prompt pikachu

You'd get some kind of yellow mouse thing

It doesn't look like a pikachu at all

But sorta

But not like the one you'd see in a game or in the anime

To me, that draws inspiration from pikachu

without copying it directly

[white flume]

Agreed

[runic zealot]

I can tell you for a fact, that Firefly does, or did, may have changed by this point, know what quite a few pokemon were. BUT FIREFLY NEVER COPIED THE POKEMON, it simply drew inspiration from them

Random, but this was quite literally Mewtwo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087560520682459146/1107103453362278420/Mewtwo__Weird_alien_space_cat_2.jpg

[severe pawn]

Lmao

[runic zealot]

Mewtwo was a weird one yeah

[reef inlet]

Firefly does not like "Sperm Whale"

[runic zealot]

No it does not

[wild drum]

I think narwhales the correct name?

[runic zealot]

Nope, two different animals

[severe pawn]

Narwhals is a different animal yeah

Narwhals have the horn

[runic zealot]

Narwhal is just more horny

than Sperm Whales

[severe pawn]

Ironic

[runic zealot]

Indeed

[wild drum]

They are? I must have mixed them up I thought both had horns

😂

I thought it was the same

[runic zealot]

Mods can't take me down for saying that either cuz its true

[severe pawn]

Sperm whales have the big forehead

[wild drum]

Discord hack!

[severe pawn]

Moby Dick

[wild drum]

What you gonna do mod! 😎😎😎

[runic zealot]

But Stian, Doggo, you see what I mean by taking inspiration from something rather than copying it?

[wild drum]

Yes I see your point, but I still disagree because I don’t see it as taking inspiration but more like refining your own product if that makes sense?

[runic zealot]

Explain?

[runic zealot]

If a human was to gain inspiration from mewttwo it would likely look even more like the pokemon

[austere bough]

@severe pawn my opinion on this: SD is more fixed towards developers to develop more AI tools which companies such as adobe that develop tools for artists will make it more accessible to everyone

[severe pawn]

interpolation

[runic zealot]

And take into account Stian, my intention here was literally to see what firefly des with "mewtwo"

The prompt was literally "A mewtwo pokemon sitting on a Japanese bed" with some phot info

If you were developing your own product you'd likely include additional information

Not just mewtwo as I did in this case

[wild drum]

Just like if you’re a baker you gotta pay for the flour in your cake. I don’t feel an AI is like a human taking inspiration and creating something new theres still gonna be traces of the original artists work like the flour in the cake

But that mewtwo looked nothing like the og? 😂

[runic zealot]

But we're not buying it are we?

We're learning how to make the flour

[runic zealot]

Because it didn't copy mewtwo, it simply drew inspiration from it

[severe pawn]

Yep, I like using SD to have access to all the tools and do generate locally

[wild drum]

I dont really see any mewtwo in that 😅

[wraith crystal]

/imagine

[runic zealot]

#archived-share-your-work-3-23-to-11-23 message

Squirtle

[runic zealot]

Considering that no further information was proviced other than "Mewtwo pokemon"

Or "Squirtle Pokemon"

[severe pawn]

It’s cute

[lone rose]

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[runic zealot]

It is cute tho

[wild drum]

Yeah that was closer, but if you type squirtle in mj youre gonna get squirtle

[runic zealot]

Yes, and that is wrong

That is blatant theft

[runic zealot]

In this case, firefly drew inspiration from it, which is correct

Midjourney copied without permission, which is wrong and unethical

[lone rose]

@placid sable please refrain from posting random images in this server

[runic zealot]

This is zapdos - https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087560520682459146/1107098292212478035/Zapdos.jpg

Tried the same thing the other night and Zapdos had been turned into a yellow parrot tho

And by parrot I mean it was an ordinary parrot it was just yellow

[placid sable]

2025 supercar 8k photo, --q2,--s750,--v5

[lone rose]

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[severe pawn]

Mixed with some bird of pray too like a falcon

[runic zealot]

You should have seen moltres

With that one it was kinda bad

[wooden granite]

FORMICHE CHE COSTRUISCONO UNA CASA

[runic zealot]

Didn't get anything like moltres

But when it was a bird, it was a fire chicken

[severe pawn]

Just a bird on fire

Lmao nice

[runic zealot]

Moltres is litrally a flaming chicken

But yeah, most of the results weren't birds

But those that were, were chickens

[lone rose]

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[wild drum]

Theres actually quite a few pokemons in stock

[runic zealot]

Yeah but if I recall, they are listed as Editorial only

Regardless, my point in this regard is using something for inspiration only, and not copying like Midjourney does

[severe pawn]

But see generating a Pokémon you’re still using someone else’s idea without permission

[wild drum]

Most not all

[runic zealot]

Look atthe above message

[runic zealot]

No idea, but that is not my point

[severe pawn]

Lol yeah I was just being difficult

[runic zealot]

Gaining inspiration from something isn't a breach of copyright

What Midjourney does is blatantly wrong however

[wild drum]

No I just got curious how it knew the pokemons

[runic zealot]

Yeah I saw hey

Looked it up a while back

[severe pawn]

But copy-write doesn’t apply everywhere so it gets tricky. China doesn’t care about US/EU copyright laws

[runic zealot]

I mean, made in china is a thing and has meaning

If you know what I mean

Tho, another perspective

[severe pawn]

I was watching a Cambodian movie the other day and it had music tracks from Harry Potter I doubt they had permission

[runic zealot]

How long then, before some youtuber decides to make nfts using knockoff pokemon

[runic zealot]

rofl most likely not

[severe pawn]

Digimon? 😉

[runic zealot]

Digimon was okay, tho I can't remember much of it xD

Has less episodes than pokemon, by like ALLOT so its actually watchable

It will take you forever to rewatch pokemon from the start

And apparently they are removing pikachu now 😡

[wild drum]

But AI is not a human drawing inspiration from something, it’s mimicking what it’s been learned. A bigger database of material means it can be harder to find the original material, but its still there. There’s no way to ensure that the og artists duck isnt the duck generated.

[runic zealot]

And just like the Bigglesworth picture is still showing in my head rn

AI art is a new concept, at least in its current state, and in quite few cases, I think the most accurate way to put it is "Expand your thinking"

Saying ai is not human, and so nothing that applies to humans applies to ai, isn't gonna work at all, and its not solving the problem

And in addition to this, again, you'll still have places like midjourney who don't care and still do it and make money off of it

[reef inlet]

tricked it

[runic zealot]

Took me 20 hours to remember what the silver surfer even is

I think it appeared in this one movie 20 years ago or something

[reef inlet]

No on Hulk

[runic zealot]

Rofl

That third one

[reef inlet]

Close on #2

[runic zealot]

Ngl, the hulk one, that's pushing it a bit

[wild drum]

It very quickly relates to the debate where philosophers argue wether humans are animals or machines. Whereas the leading technology often is whats being used to describe humans. Is AI like humans or is it like a machine? I think AI is more on the machine side, like a product, and whenever you develop a product you can’t really freeload on other peoples IP.

Ofc theres always gonna be people who steal like mj tho

[severe pawn]

Hey bro I got that illegal data set trainer

[runic zealot]

Fair, but either way we have not had tools that are able to learn or integrate like that and in that sense some human aspects do apply even if it is unable to actually think for itself

[runic zealot]

Huh?

[runic zealot]

As for the humans are animals.............assumptions of human superiority

[severe pawn]

I was making a joke about model training data becoming illegal

Because of copyright

[wild drum]

Ofc its a huge step in the technological development. But just because two things are similar they are not necessarily the same

[runic zealot]

In which case China does it anyway and they just sell copies of stuff

[severe pawn]

Yep

[runic zealot]

It applies because that is how it can best be understood

[runic zealot]

And this applies too, it gets banned, those who ignore the ban advance

Same with Elon musks thing about stopping all ai research for 6 months

[wild drum]

What I remember most from the lectures on this debate is the 60yo professor who started talking about robots you could have a good time with

[runic zealot]

Is he gonna pay them? And then the ones who secretly continue work will be further ahead?

[runic zealot]

If you mean it like I think you do, yes, that will very likely happen

And I don't see an issue with it, if thats someones thing then go ahead

[wild drum]

He tried to make us reflect on what constitutes a human 😂

[reef inlet]

Ink and orange are OK it seems. Firefly doesn't link all green

[astral jolt]

@severe pawn welcome to community

[runic zealot]

BUT, ai art should always be labeled as AI art and not real, and in that case I do highly recommend ways be developed and expanded to identify AI art

[astral jolt]

@runic zealot please

[brave quiver]

/a smiling cafe owner women holding a hot cup of coffee in a white wide background

[wild drum]

I’m more unsure about this, because you dont really mark photoshop art as photoshop art

[astral jolt]

Firefly is web based not a discord bot prompting comes after you get invited, on site https://firefly.adobe.com/

[runic zealot]

It allready is

It's in the data

[severe pawn]

Sorry

[lone rose]

you beat me to it Katarina, channel hopping

[wild drum]

Here in Norway we have to mark all pictures in marketing if theres people who have been retouched and I really doubt the effect of that

[wild drum]

Ohh I was thinking like a watermark

[severe pawn]

Oh that’s interesting

[runic zealot]

True true, but I still don't think something made with ai should be represented as real

[wild drum]

But you can do so much in photoshop that its not really real anymore

[runic zealot]

And also note that of everyone here, I focus the most on high realism

[west whale]

d

[runic zealot]

Exactly but some people will be fooled into thinking it is

[wild drum]

Most food pictures on the menu in fastfood chains not real

[severe pawn]

How much retouching has to be done before you need to label it?

[runic zealot]

And there are people who will modifuy it in photoshop and present it as real

[runic zealot]

Rofl that is true

[severe pawn]

(This picture has been enhanced to show detail)

[wild drum]

Almost everything. Removing one zit is enough. Laying on a colourfilter on the entire picture is not enough tho

[runic zealot]

While this is definately the case, doesn't mean that I think even that is actually ethical

[severe pawn]

Interesting

[runic zealot]

But at times yes

Good luck photographing stuff like ice cream in a perfect condition

Under intense lights

[wild drum]

I mean it makes sense using mashed potatos to do a 2h photoshoot of icecream under burning studio lights

[wild drum]

Haha exactly

[runic zealot]

But yeah, just if for example I make a highly realistic scene of whatever, I'm not gonna go and pretend that's an actual photo

That's just not the right way to go about it

[wild drum]

It would be fun to make a travel instagram without leaving your bed 😂

[lone rose]

because they don't use Ice cream to make the stock photos of ice cream

[runic zealot]

Could try it xDDD

[wild drum]

Which you kinda can do because of photoshop and its been done

[runic zealot]

Exactly my point xD

[runic zealot]

I could do it easilly, so could you

But is it then ethical to make money off it while pretending you really did travel? Not really

[wild drum]

Are you trashtalking the honest industry of ice cream sir?

[runic zealot]

XDDDD

[astral jolt]

lol

[runic zealot]

Stian Relax

I'm sure Norway is cold enough

[wild drum]

😂

[lone rose]

yes

[runic zealot]

to photograph perfect actual ice cream

[severe pawn]

I’m really excited to see Ai integrated with Photoshop. Upscaling images and skin touch up and fixing focus and lighting

[raw portal]

hello

[severe pawn]

Like take the regular tools with the ability to generate and repair parts of the image

[raw portal]

am a new here

[runic zealot]

Hello New Here, I'm No one

[wild drum]

btw this is how its marked in Norway if theres "alterations made during or after the taking of a picture or film which alters the person’s body shape, size, or skin. Since the rule also mentions “manipulation”, the use of filters and lenses that alternates the appearance of a person in the photo or film"

[runic zealot]

That's a bit much 😂

[severe pawn]

They have to put that watermark???

That big??

[wild drum]

yepp

[severe pawn]

Damn

[lone rose]

I was tempted @runic zealot 🤣 🤣 nearly boinked him

[runic zealot]

Well, in that case it really is a bit much ngl

[wild drum]

and whenever I see it I always think "damn I still want a sixpack" 😂

[severe pawn]

Lmaoo

[lone rose]

sixpack pfffft when you get to my age you can have a barrel

[wild drum]

then I go home and eat a bag of crisps with pepsi max and think meeeh maybe on monday

[runic zealot]

At the same time, we see food that's propably fake and we still get hungry

[runic zealot]

OR DONUTSSS

[severe pawn]

Imagine now how big the “this image was generated using Ai technology” watermark is going to be

[runic zealot]

I genuinly don't know why I'm craving donuts so much xD

And same thing, friggen Kingpin making steak the daily theme knowing I'm starving at home

[wild drum]

I rarely buy donuts even tho I want them, because I always get dissapointed after eating them that theres no more donuts 😂

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-hell-homer-homer-simpsons-donuts-gif-4010276

[runic zealot]

I've been eating them everyday lately

[wild drum]

I need this for eating donuts

[runic zealot]

Tho in my case, I genuinly can't gain fat, or unfortunately for me large muscles, even if I try 🤣

[wild drum]

me neither haha

[runic zealot]

And I literally lift weights everyday

[wild drum]

okey I dont haha

[runic zealot]

Don't normally eat this much donuts tho 😅

[severe pawn]

Bulking

On the donut bulk

[runic zealot]

Idk maybe it'll work but idk whyyyy im having cravings xD

Not that I decided okay imma eat a bunch of donuts this week

[wild drum]

but I'm always in calorie deficit because I hate breakfast, and when I dont eat breakfast I dont really want food the rest of the day, so some days I just live on nicotine and caffeine

[runic zealot]

Oh I don't either, but I do make sure to get everything I need in

[wild drum]

I mean if you lift everyday youre entitled to donuts everyday

[runic zealot]

Blame my father for making eggs in a pan which he burned something else in xD

[wild drum]

thats the weird part, I dont lack anything my doctor tested

[runic zealot]

Yeah but its weird cuz its literal cravings

[severe pawn]

Coffee and cigarettes for lunch same here

[lone rose]

@dense axle please don't post random images to the server

[runic zealot]

Oh and Stian, I drink like 20 cups of tea a day

[wild drum]

with sugar?

[runic zealot]

Hate coffee

[severe pawn]

Black

[runic zealot]

Just a little

[wild drum]

I saw someone on supersize vs superskinny, and the skinny woman on lived off tea with sugar

but tea has something in it so you dont feel hunger

[runic zealot]

And I mean actual TEA not these weird herbal not actually tea things europeans like

[runic zealot]

Oh maybe, but yeah I've always been rather skinny so

Then again I've always drank allot of tea

[severe pawn]

Yeah Tea can be an appetite suppressant

[wild drum]

are you trashtalking Twinnings Earl Grey?

[runic zealot]

NO NOT AT ALL

I LOVE IT

[wild drum]

😂

[runic zealot]

Earl Grey is my favorite

Not sure I'd really bother with Twinnings as I couldnt figure out which I liked better between that and the more common Five Roses Earl Grey we have over here

Twinnings I can only get at one store

[wild drum]

I feel like thats the only brand we have here

unless I go to a teashop which sells overprized tea

[lone rose]

I think it's Shawn who likes iced tea

[runic zealot]

Iced tea is okaay

@wild drum

[wild drum]

I think I have a mega pack of those

[severe pawn]

I’m American and live in the south I only sweet Ice Tea

Lmao

[runic zealot]

Lovely, but yeah can only get them from one store and its not worth the effort to go all the time

[wild drum]

I think chai is the best tho

[runic zealot]

Besides I'm mad at my local one for taking 3 weeks to get my buffalo mozzarella

[wild drum]

thtat sucks, I hate when its like that

[runic zealot]

We've got other earl grey, it's fine, I mean twinnings one is much smoother but not really worth the extra effort imo

[wild drum]

twinnings sorta the standard brand here so I have nothing to compare it too, its my go to for simpler tastes like earl grey, but I feel the other brands try to hard and somehow mint became a trend so everythings with mint

[runic zealot]

People over here would NOT call Earl Grey simple xD

[wild drum]

if I wanted water to taste like I've just brushed my teeth I would just brush my teeth

[runic zealot]

ROFL

[wild drum]

classic taste*

haha

[runic zealot]

Idk didn't grow up on earl grey

first time I tasted it I hated it

Came back to it a few years later and loved it

[wild drum]

its so funny how taste change

[runic zealot]

English breakfast isn't exactly the standard taste we have here, but its similar

[wild drum]

yeah thats kinda similar I feel

[runic zealot]

I can give english breakfast to someone here and doubt they'd know the difference between that and their everday tea

[wild drum]

haha as long as its good

[runic zealot]

Love it Katarina!

[wild drum]

@runic zealot frozen mashes potatoes makes the best ice cream!

[runic zealot]

I don't think that's something I'd want to try

And I'm the one who a year ago was sitting outside her fridge eating up a whole tub of ice cream

And then struggled to get up again

[wild drum]

strawberry flavoured frozen mashed potatoes 🤤

[runic zealot]

Nope

[wild drum]

like a tub tub?

like a tub you bathe in?

thats a lot of icecream!

[runic zealot]

No, like a 2l box of icecream

It's called a tub of icecream

[wild drum]

ohh

still a lot

[runic zealot]

Was expecting quadruplets, I was hungry

[wild drum]

wow thats a lot too

[runic zealot]

You think? I'm 154 cm 😂

[wild drum]

my best friend is pregnant with one and term is this week and she struggles to walk

[runic zealot]

It depends ig, some people get bigger than others

I routinely got stuck unable to get up

[wild drum]

well thats understandable

[runic zealot]

Trying to improve on the Strawbery Mashed potato

Firefly isn't so good with cut strawberries it seems

[wild drum]

I think I made a good one

[lone rose]

just checking my yoghurt isn't paint

[runic zealot]

Let's see what we can do about that shall we

[stone notch]

My dailytheme conclusion is that FF doesn't know any painter at all 😅

[runic zealot]

I think it may be the same as pokemon

It takes inspiration, rather than copying

[stone notch]

Yes, it knows some techniques, and you can steer it a bit into a certain direction.

Taking inspiration is maybe not the correct word to describe an algorithm. But it for sure mimics characteristics.

[wild drum]

I think for my baroque teddy bear FF where more taking hints than inspiration 😅

[runic zealot]

Then call it hints if it makes it sound less human

[wild drum]

no i meant like it really didnt make it baroque

[stone notch]

I asked chatGPT to describe the style of van Gogh and went from there 😅

[runic zealot]

ROFL

But yeah, idk go to wikipedia or ask chatgpt what baroque is

[wild drum]

like baroque is really dark background, then the focus is light, sorta emerging from the dark. and even though I specified high contrast and dark background it didnt really understand

[runic zealot]

It got Gothic quite well when I did some window sets

[runic zealot]

No, 90% of the time it does not understand high contrast xD

[stone notch]

I also tried Rembrandt, but couldn't get anywhere close

[runic zealot]

Gareth? Any more of your food in doubt?

[wild drum]

milk in cereal is glue

[runic zealot]

This is something I have literally no experience with, cuz I have literally never used "In the style of this artist"

[lone rose]

there's a whole ton of them

[wild drum]

roasted turkey/meat is shoe polish