the-tavern

[astral hull]

thats also already announced on the roadmap

[buoyant scroll]

You can read the Roadmap details to see what's been announced.

[astral hull]

and shown on their tiktok/youtube short

[wraith umbra]

You can already craft from storage

you make magic chests

from the carpenter

the roadmap is specifically for setting up factories to pull from magic chests too

[buoyant scroll]

Right Adall, that's what I assumed Pie was refering to 🙂

As long as there's a way to restrict the amount of craft being done from the magic chests to avoid depleting everything we have in the chests 🤣

[wraith umbra]

The feature looked more like a "pull X from chest to factory"

[astral hull]

In the video it shows that you select the amount of material it pulls

[wraith umbra]

So I think we're good

[buoyant scroll]

Very good to know 😅

[prisma surge]

If you have more than one flame alter does your passage level use the one with the highest level?

[wraith umbra]

That is set by the world

Once you up it, it is permanent

[prisma surge]

perminent ok thanks good to know

[inland olive]

is there any way to turn off the alter border light?

[wraith umbra]

stop being in build mode

[sudden pulsar]

Just wanted to share the love i have for the game! Ive been dissapointed by so many releases this and the previous year and its really refreshing getting a hold of something that is challenging, immersive, beautiful and gives you freedom in the way its to be played.
Cant wait for the coming updates!

Anyone know if we're getting (physically) larger chests and maybe a drop rate change? Maybe a game setting or something for the drop rates?

[pastel oyster]

The only information we have on what is coming is the Roadmap, but it doesn't go into too great of detail, and many of the smaller things aren't going to be on there. You can find the roadmap in #news

[ocean anvil]

evening peoples

[pastel oyster]

Heya! 🙂

[ocean anvil]

🖖

[pastel oyster]

Whats up?

Enjoying your Friday night?

[ocean anvil]

finished music track #4 not long ago and now being distributed. Time to have a ☕ and do some gaming.

[pastel oyster]

nice! 🙂

[ocean anvil]

also 5k steps and 4km walked so far today, low cal intake, so yeah..

[hard thunder]

so im hosting a server from the game where it says host server, my friend cannot find it. do i have to be online for them to join it

[abstract fern]

@hard thunder once they join it should always show up in the game

[hard thunder]

so even if im not on? he said he couldnt find it

[subtle prawn]

I think you're talking about peer to peer connection, which means basically he just connects to your computer while you have your singleplayer map open

[abstract fern]

you can search for server name

[pastel oyster]

Are you hosting it locally?

[hard thunder]

no its the one where you start and it says " Host" Start a public game, save locally

[subtle prawn]

Then you have to be online

[pastel oyster]

Yeah, you have to be online for that. It's a game, run locally, so when you turn it off it's gone

[subtle prawn]

Because it's just a singleplayer game that is open for friends

[abstract fern]

but saves progress

[hard thunder]

oh ok so would it be better to create a host one thats open?

through the GPORTAL?

[pastel oyster]

You would have to make a dedicated server - and that costs $$$

[abstract fern]

@hard thunder where you from

[hard thunder]

WA\

[abstract fern]

australia?

[hard thunder]

USA

[abstract fern]

k

[pastel oyster]

I have had good luck with using Nitrado for other games. They have good support.

[abstract fern]

so if you host friends can join it but you need to be online for them to join and play

@hard thunder

[hard thunder]

oh ok thank you

[abstract fern]

otherwise pay for a online server

then they can play when you not on

[hard thunder]

oh ok i think i may try that so they can play if im not on

[abstract fern]

I got a server through gportal. they good. I think it's under $10 US for a 4slot server per month

@hard thunder

[hard thunder]

now will the servers run even if i shut my computer down?

just trying to understand how it works

[abstract fern]

a dedicated server is always up

[hard thunder]

oh ok im still learning about the dedicated server stuff lol

[pastel oyster]

If you create a server locally on your computer, it would shut down, yes - but I'd imagine that's probably a bit more techy than what you might be used to. If you use a service, it's on their own computers, and it doesn't matter what you do on yours.

[hard thunder]

ok thank you all so much

[abstract fern]

np

[pastel oyster]

Yeah, then I would definitely suggest going with Nitrado. They are also really "newbie" friendly. It's easy to understand, and they'll help you out a bit if you need it.

[hard thunder]

ok sweet i appreciate the help

im going to assume ill have to restart too

[pastel oyster]

There is a way to move your save over to the server - but you'd have to ask them in #server-support because I think it's a little more complicated than just adding a file.

It's possible Nitrado can help you with that also - maybe.

[hard thunder]

oh ok

sweet i appreaciate all the helpo

[abstract fern]

@hard thunder how far you got so far?

[hard thunder]

help

[abstract fern]

on your character

[hard thunder]

one second

i have all the crafters, plus alot of materials and good weapons like the hailscourge

[abstract fern]

ah k

[hard thunder]

plus just moved to another area and built a bigger building

[abstract fern]

@hard thunder kk have fun

[subtle prawn]

In #server-faq is a guide on how to transfer your save file

[hard thunder]

ok i will look at that thank you all

[prisma surge]

Is it just me or are the polished wooded double doors and copper double doors will not snap to center?

[pastel oyster]

It's a bug since the last update

[prisma surge]

ok not just my game then good to know

I tried to upgrade, turned out to be a downgrade lol

[pastel oyster]

I am hoping they fix it in the next update, but it's just a hope. 🙂

[prisma surge]

I dont see why they wouldn't its bad when something like that doesnt line up

[pastel oyster]

Yeah - the only problem is I think it happened when they fixed a bug, which could mean it's a bit more complicated than just an alignment issue. We'll see next week 😄

[prisma surge]

yeah. oh well I liked to look of those polished wooded doubel doors

[pastel oyster]

yeah - I love those ones 🙂 I hope when they fix them, they also fix the Iron doors - they have been like that (off center) forever. 🤣

[prisma surge]

the carved wooden doors still work

[keen elbow]

Morning.....

[pastel oyster]

How is your weekend going so far? 🙂

[keen elbow]

Making breakfast for my little one.
Super tired from yesterday work marathon.
Wish I can close my eyes and fall to eternal sleep 😴😅

How's you?

[wet kelp]

i would love to see at least 4 body types. Anyone else?

Slim
Curvy
Athletic
Thick

to be honesty , all the small to flat chested females in games is getting kind of offensive , as a larger chested woman . Makes me feel like there is something wrong with my body type. Even Diablo 4 took that away from all the females characters, even the thick druid females had small chests you think at least the thick girls would have something ...but nope. . Blood hunt another game where the females were flat. Monster hunter is another where the women are lacking any curves. Cyberpunk needed mods for that to be improved as well. Baldur's Gate 3 also lacking in body types. The only game i can think of where the character creation was good to a lot of body types was Conan exiles. Though Star stables recently added in body types. However seeing as your character in that game is meant to be a young girl i can see why their body types were lacking in the chest area it was understandable for the plot of the game . Sorry this turned into a rant LOL . Was looking at my character and in all honesty can't even tell she's a female with certain armors.

[pastel oyster]

Had a busy day - not quite tired yet, but too beat to do much of anything. 🤣

[pastel oyster]

It's probably in the suggestion box already. lol

!upvote

[unborn sigil]

Future features can be voted on to show your interest on Feature Upvote!

Adding new suggestions is currently disabled, but please search one of the existing 2600+ suggestions and upvote/comment it, your idea is almost certainly in there already!

Created by random27#0 (787104841360736266)

[pastel oyster]

Yup: https://enshrouded.featureupvote.com/suggestions/528298/body-sliders

[keen elbow]

One redbull and carry on?

[pastel oyster]

ew, redbull tastes gross. Anyway I am caffeine sensitive and it's 12:30am here 🤣

[keen elbow]

Caffeine is my second name untill I'm drinking 2 litres of coffee and then I shake allover my body and consider the meaning of life🤣

[pastel oyster]

If I have a coke after 6pm I am up until 6am... coffee is even worse. Even my tea will keep me up if I have the caffeinated ones.

Funny thing - I used to be a barista. If I worked the late shift, I didn't even have to drink any, just breathing it in would keep me up.

[keen elbow]

Ohh wow 🥹

[wet kelp]

i saw one for for more in general
https://enshrouded.featureupvote.com/suggestions/525123/better-character-creation-customization

[keen elbow]

I can drink cup of coffee and head to sleep

[pastel oyster]

I can only do that if I have a migraine.

[keen elbow]

Ugh migraine.
I get the aura in my eyes once in a while. Wonderful when driving while it happens

[quiet geyser]

Hey is anyone here good at like finding angles or geometry?

[sudden pulsar]

Adhd Gang be like ^^ Same here btw!

[signal cobalt]

I'm great at math

[keen elbow]

[quiet geyser]

I'm an idiot I was going to ask how do I align these buildings in another game at diagonal angles, but then I figured out how to use the system to get them lined up symmetrically

[signal cobalt]

At least, you got it. Congrats!

[smoky moth]

Agree+adding more face variants would be dope. 👍

I want my char look funny

[quiet geyser]

I bribed a friend into playing this game with me and they really like it

[wild sedge]

look at you bragging about having friends

[wet kelp]

yeah it be nice to include different faces and body types so most people can feel included or just more to be creative with these multiplayer games should have more options as well to avoid everyone looking like twins LOL

[quiet geyser]

I mean it's a co-op game what did you expect

[smoky moth]

4 guys looking like curvy goblins dancing around campfire. Did I expect too much? 👀

[wet kelp]

omg thats amazing

[pastel oyster]

Eh - frankly I find it refreshing that the game doesn't over-sexualize the characters.

I'm kinda tired of lonely boys in basements making characters with "tig-ol-bitties" so they can watch them bounce.

[frigid rapids]

I find it odd that that would bother you

[pastel oyster]

I grew up as a "girl gamer" and there have been some dark times. I literally had to stop going on voice chat years ago when I played MMO's because I was constantly sexually harassed.

The over-sexualization of female characters in games have created an environment of complete objectification.

[wild sedge]

my sister had to get a voice changer so she could be in a WoW guild without sweaty guys falling all over themselves

[pastel oyster]

It's nuts. It might not be physically dangerous, but you wouldn't believe some of the things that were said to me, in open chats, and all the other guys would laugh like it's funny.

So yeah - it's refreshing to see characters that aren't just "T&A"

[smoky moth]

I mean it'd be good as long as this game stay unwoke

[pastel oyster]

🙄

[smoky moth]

But not over-sexualized stuff as well. (Already got sexy games) so not planning to be sweaty on creative building game

But still, I want my curvy goblin character 💀

[pastel oyster]

I mean, "body types" are fine - but when they go overboard on ahem customization... on any gender - it's just wrong.

[smoky moth]

Fair enough

[wet kelp]

big ol bitties wouldn't change it. Soon as a guy hears a female voice even if you main a male character they will still act the same

[vital topaz]

Not all of us though!

[wet kelp]

in Gw2 almost all my characters were males. In WoW i have a Male orc DK . Soon as that type of guy , knows you are a female its game over in general

[pastel oyster]

As for "unwoke" (forgive me, but that is seriously cringy) I think it's perfectly fine to add different genders and skin colors to a game. People like to be seen, to play heroes that are like themselves - It's all part of the fantasy of gaming. It has nothing to do with "wokeness" or any kind of agenda - it's just humanity, in all it's beautiful, crazy variety.

[frigid rapids]

Woke isn’t genders and race

It’s when they start adding pronouns and forcing character sexuality into the plot for inclusion

Case In point. Sandman

[wet kelp]

im just asking for curvery bodies not armor to show it off. With the armor in the game it be hard to over sexualize any body type.

[pastel oyster]

As I said above. People like to feel included. Pronouns and sexuality is a part of people, a part of society. If it bothers people, that's a "them problem."

[smoky moth]

Yeah, that's the point. Dont want them to focus on those so they can focus on building and stuff

[pastel oyster]

Now this game - that kind of stull isn't "needed" for storylines, but it might be something that makes someone who is feeling lost or lonely feel a little bit more included.

And that harms no one.

[frigid rapids]

So are “tig-ol-bitties” as you put it

It’s not a matter of having things like that in a game. It’s a matter of forcing it in where it’s otherwise irrelevant

[pastel oyster]

As someone who has them, and has been the focus of men's gazes since I was 12 - It does not make me feel included, it makes me feel objectified.

[smoky moth]

That one over-sexualized? I thought it meant adding g string into the game or something 💀

[wet kelp]

again those type of men will stare regardless

big tatas or not

to be honest i had to deal with more women than men LOL the whole " are those real" question got asked a lot

[pastel oyster]

Either way we are probably toeing the line of the political (or NSFW) rule - so I'll refrain from any more comments on it.

[smoky moth]

Yeah,men stares at everything from that to other men abs 🤣

But as long as it's not too long like 4+ sec or something

[frigid rapids]

I don’t mind highly detailed character customization at all. I’m gonna make a male character that looks as close to me as I can get it either way.

[smoky moth]

Good for you, champ

[frigid rapids]

Don’t call me champ

[wet kelp]

i think its jsut human nature to stare and be curious . I have never been offended by staring. I'm guilty at staring at people to and its not always " oooo look at that" sometimes i just think they're interesting. Or wondering how much their tattoo cost or i like their fashion.

yeah i like my characters to look as close to me as possible as well .Hard to pull off in most games. For one im like a super mutt. LOL

[wild sedge]

i usually hit the random button 13 times and just go with whatever comes up.

[frigid rapids]

Tf is a super mutt

[wet kelp]

LOL like i got a bit of every culture in my blood

[pastel oyster]

I used to think this way when I was younger. Even found it flattering... but things happened to me IRL that quickly changed my perspective on how flattering and harmless it was.

[frigid rapids]

Oh nice!

Im not very culturally diverse at all

By that I mean I’m white af

[wet kelp]

yeah im like Spanish, Native, German, African , Mexican

though my skin is pretty pale , however i got the facial feature of a none white person.

[vital topaz]

white people are only 13 % of the worlds population, so you are basically a minority 😉

[smoky moth]

Now, im curious. Is ur WoW dk spec is blood as well? 👀

[pastel oyster]

I am sure they are happy to hear about that

[frigid rapids]

You heard it here folks! I’m rare af!

[wet kelp]

dude blood for life

[smoky moth]

Couldn't agree more 🤝

[wet kelp]

HAZZAH!

[frigid rapids]

stares in prot pally

[vital topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-seccato-憤怒-inside-out-gif-5902151

Fury all the way

[wet kelp]

ewww fury

[pastel oyster]

👀 I can't believe that game is still somehow relevant.

[frigid rapids]

It’s a fantastic MMO why wouldn’t it be

[wet kelp]

right!

[smoky moth]

Bubble gang eh? 👀

[frigid rapids]

Someday they’ll update the graphics

[wet kelp]

now heres the real question that will make us friend or foe
Horde or Alliance?

[frigid rapids]

FOR THE HORDE!

[smoky moth]

For the horde! My duddd

[pastel oyster]

FFXI was a fantastic MMO... WoW was... eh.

[wet kelp]

couldn't pay me to go back to FFXI

i have played almost every mmo. final fantasy def was not for me.

[frigid rapids]

I can’t help but notice the lack of “for the horde” there Nina

[wet kelp]

horde for life!

[pastel oyster]

I mean, it's been dead for a long while now. it's FFXIV now, still better than Wow, but not quite on par with the beauty of FFXI

[wet kelp]

imma get a horde tattoo on my shoulder

[frigid rapids]

That’s an epic level of nerdery I don’t think I have the brass to achieve

[smoky moth]

Wish I could join Garrosh...

[halcyon fox]

Hey! is there a enshrouded world download with all the stuff, want to check some stuff out if thats possible

[frigid rapids]

There is

[wet kelp]

LOL yup a horde sylbom on my right shoulder and either the triforce from legend of zelda on my left or the zerg symbol

[halcyon fox]

😮 where at pls!

[frigid rapids]

It’s the public resource world. There’s info on it around here somewhere

[pastel oyster]

but then - I have had a beef with Blizzard since 2012

[frigid rapids]

Favorite LoZ game?

[pastel oyster]

So I am not unbiased. 😄

[wet kelp]

i know i might get hate for this one....but....majora's mask

[frigid rapids]

Hands down the coolest gamer in this server right now

[wet kelp]

LOL

nah just a nerd for sure

[vital topaz]

y not both?

[smoky moth]

Btw have u played through Shadowland? I quitted around BFA (bored after Sylvanas scheme thingy)

[frigid rapids]

Ocarina of Time is my favorite but Majoras mask is a very close second being an offshoot

[frigid rapids]

Yeah. It wasn’t blizzards best work

[wet kelp]

i think i only have 1 friend on the allience....though...I do call him my WoW husband....LOL though i need to divorce that mofo . He hasn't been around to be my tank and thats grounds for a WoW divorce.

[frigid rapids]

Dragonflight on the other hand has been refreshing af

[smoky moth]

Fr? Maybe I might try going back to hunt that Nighthold transmog

Only got one piece of the dk set now, sadly

[vital topaz]

Let's maybe take this to https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1060221885524226068 😉

[frigid rapids]

Yeah this is probably my favorite expac so far

[frigid rapids]

Man why’s the man always ruining the fun smh

[wet kelp]

LOL

[cold star]

how far is the game from being 100% complete?

[wet kelp]

most likely pretty far

[pastel oyster]

The game was released into EA only 3 months ago, so we are just at the begining. The devs have mentioned wanting to have it out in about a year, but at this early stage, it's not even set in mud, let alone stone 🙂

[small pendant]

Lol 2 months. It released near the end of Jan, not the start. They do still have hopes of a year, but we will see how some of the big things on the road map treat them.

[pastel oyster]

I can count!

🤣

[small pendant]

Of course, you just added one for luck.

[vapid canopy]

hey nothing to wrong there, I also enjoyed Majora's Mask.

[pastel oyster]

In all fairness... it is 3:15 in the morning... and... nope - I have no excuse, I'm wide awake.

[frigid rapids]

I’d say 1 year is awfully optimistic

[small pendant]

5:15 here, really need to sleep O.O

[pastel oyster]

At least it's Friday night 😄

[vapid canopy]

6:14 am here i'm waiting for the coffee to brew

[small pendant]

They have a road map and an idea where they are heading. If you have a plan, things tend to progress at a timely pace.

[pastel oyster]

And they have a history of being relatively "on schedule" from what I understand

[small pendant]

Exactly why 5am isn't going to make me hate myself, but probably not waking up til like 1pm today

[pastel oyster]

Sounds like a dream ^_^

[frigid rapids]

I’ve seen the roadmap, that is a lot of content to add. Let alone finishing the entire map and story on top of it.

They’re an ambitious team for sure

[small pendant]

They promised this month for another patch, so if it releases in the next week and a half, then they're pretty solidly on time.

[upper galleon]

It also was successful enough for them to be able to be ambitious.. plenty of ambitious teams that never fulfilled half of the roadmaps because the game simply did not do well enough in terms of sales

[small pendant]

Keep telling friends how much you like the game and get them to tell their friends. With everyone doing that, there will be no worries in the sales department. 😺

[pastel oyster]

what's... friends?

[small pendant]

Shhh, it's okay, you don't need to worry about that word. You're fine.

[pastel oyster]

Yay! I am fine 😄

[upper galleon]

I don't worry.. Enshrouded already did well enough for them to keep working on it. It is loosing players now but that is normal for this type of game...Most players finish the game and move on to something else.. only a smaller amount that stick around afterwards to build.. old players will come back and new players will come with the major content updates ..that s the lifecycle for most games

especially this type of game with no type of engame grind

[wet kelp]

beastmasters need kinda a rework when they said they are adding pets into the game...like beast master pets or like dogs and cats?

[small pendant]

It said npc pets, not sure we are getting some.

[tame seal]

For this type of game 'losing' concurrent players matters very little. Especially with how well they've done to start with, they've got what they need to continue.

[pastel oyster]

Actually I am fine. I have my purple shag heated blankie on and my cat is off farting in the bedroom instead of here. 😄

[upper galleon]

exactly.. it is perfectly natural for a crafting survival title of this type

[sudden pulsar]

Would love some diagonal build pieces ngl.

[small pendant]

Blue heated blanket and the kitty will come for snuggles soon

[pastel oyster]

I think this game will have a similar effect as minecraft - people play it for a bit, go off to something else then get the itch and come back and as more people buy the game the more this will happen.

[tame seal]

This game will only really die when they stop updating it.

[upper galleon]

Even if my channel is very small, I feel like I m doing my part spreading the word since I do a lot of YT content for the game 🙂 ..all thought to be honest it might mostly be content of the type that people who allready like the game a lot will find rellevant 🙂

[pastel oyster]

If I move too much, mine will too... but... that gas... It's... ... ... Bad.

Imagine a rancid baby diaper sitting inside a burning tire.

and that's almost as bad.

[crystal torrent]

You have a resource world in here, read the first post. #1210094136544338010 message

[mystic sleet]

Does anyone know when the next Update ist coming ?

[tepid drift]

what did it eat

[pastel oyster]

lol We changed her food - her previous food became unavailable.

We are gonna have to find something different though, cause she might be fine, but we... most definitely aren't.

[crystal torrent]

No exact date yet but we expect it next week or the week after.

[tepid drift]

I'd wager a whole pint that cat's got a treasure hidden somewhere.

[pastel oyster]

a treasure?

[tepid drift]

😁

Poop

[pastel oyster]

Nope, it's purely gas-powered. You can tell when they happen too... the air gets ... heavy.

[crystal torrent]

My cat is evil, when he got gas he wants to snuggle, and then let one rip.

[tepid drift]

Maybe he just got back from hunting sewer rats.

Innkeeper! Do something about this smelly beast!

[crystal torrent]

Fat chance, the innkeeper smell even worse.

[quasi saffron]

Good "morning" / almost afternoon.

[pastel oyster]

Morning!

[vital topaz]

Hey Vano

[tame seal]

Good day, that encompasses all.

[quasi saffron]

Today I'll fight my household. What will you guys do?

[tame seal]

Fight unending swaths of decay and death.

[vital topaz]

Wait for enshrouded news! (just afraid those guys over at keen are not working today)

[pastel oyster]

Hopefully sleep

[crystal torrent]

Drag my butt over to the café and get some coffee and breakfast is next on my list, where the rest of the day goes is unclear.

[quasi saffron]

They don't.

Anyone an idea, what I could build next?

[tame seal]

Built a crypt yet?

[quasi saffron]

On it. More like a - below the castle - project.

But not so much ideas yet.

[vapid canopy]

Build slide in the sky for some cool gliding?

[quasi saffron]

I got yet: Tannery, tavern, farmhouse, farmhouse warehouse(?), blacksmith's house with forge underneath, carpenter's warehouse + workshop and adjacent house this

[vital topaz]

a cliffside cottage - a little cozy home overlooking the valleys

[crystal torrent]

Hmm, no Millenium Falcon on that list.

[wet kelp]

im still trying to find everything to build with lol

[quasi saffron]

Not much too look at. Shrouds everywhere.

[crystal torrent]

So maybe build a tugboat?

[vital topaz]

can still have a nice view 😉

[quasi saffron]

The one time I ask for serious input, you guys go full troll mode.

[vital topaz]

i ain't trolling! my next building project is a village on a cliff

with a nice view of the revelwoods

[vital topaz]

what are you missing/looking for?

[trail cipher]

We had a Minecraft server for years, now we have an Enshrouded server 😉 For us, Enshrouded already has totally replaced Minecraft. 🙂

We = my daughter and me. All her friends who used to play on our server.... have to 'adapt' now 😉

[quasi saffron]

No Voxel game rules forever my son.

[trail cipher]

No game will, but as my time is limited as well... 😉

[wet kelp]

for one is is i feel like im missing half the building blocks and gear, or funiture

[vital topaz]

most building blocks you get quests for either from your npcs or by exploring new places

just run around the world looking for places you have not been to yet. you will gain xp and level up on the way and get new quests then 😉

[quasi saffron]

By the way Aonyx, do you know what my inspiration mostly is?

I use Lego Medieval Set-google pics and try to visualize them in Enshrouded.

My entire blacksmith's house is stolen from there. The Tannery is from another medieval game, et cetera. I let myself get inspired sometimes. 🤔

[wet kelp]

armors? and furnitures?

[copper apex]

then never try AI, u will never stop building haha

[quasi saffron]

Armor racks are not yet in... if ever. Furnitures are just mostly by getting planks or such.

[quasi saffron]

Fate worse than death.

[wet kelp]

lol i really got to get to know people better before i let them join my discord

.....

[vapid canopy]

honestly that is good practice.

[quasi saffron]

Eh... May I ask why or what happened? Also good idea, some people behave... like Trolls.

[wet kelp]

@blazing saddle knows why

he got the screenshots. LOLOLOLOL

[blazing saddle]

Lmao

[wet kelp]

DEAD

[blazing saddle]

i know nothing

[wet kelp]

@vital topaz see this is why you need to play wow with me! LOL

i can't stop laughing! nooooo.....

[vital topaz]

Thats where my blacksmiths' house comes from as well!

[vital topaz]

Armors are unlock when you find the necessary crafting Material (so take everything new with you) or can be found around the World

Furniture as well

[wet kelp]

nooooo its getting worse.....

[vital topaz]

What do i need to see?

[copper apex]

btw. could u gimme a link to that game, i wanna check those buildings, cant find it in google

[wet kelp]

i'm laugihng so hard im crying

[wet kelp]

can i dm you the screenshots ?

i need to breathe and stop laughing so hard

[vital topaz]

You can try😁

[carmine scroll]

whats going on?

[vital topaz]

No clue!

[vapid canopy]

🤨 welp i hope everything works out for the best for ya Nina

[wet kelp]

if you want the screenshots i'll send them but sh** had me laughing

[quasi saffron]

Do you want my inspirations or a save file from my buildings? The latter would take awhile, cuz' I'm a noob with files.

[wet kelp]

ok i tihnk im done laughing but my cheeks hurt ....dead.... now back to Enshrouded.....cause WoW got werid

i need to figure out how to make a hobbit hole

[quasi saffron]

Latest wow patch won't be my favorite of all time...

[copper apex]

i'm just curious about the game, because i dont know it, is it a card game? because thats all i found under this name

[carmine scroll]

i know a good spot.

[quasi saffron]

Forge of Empires was for the tannery.
All other buildings are from Lego Sets IRL.

[wet kelp]

oh? where ?pwease tell me

[carmine scroll]

I got it from a youtube video, one sec.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UskC9mDK70

[wet kelp]

ty ty

[carmine scroll]

👍

[wise grail]

Question, does parrying depend on the ping?

[vapid canopy]

@wet kelp You may dm me the screen shots. i could use a good laugh

[wet kelp]

good question my friend was asking about the parrying earlier today

[vital topaz]

I cant tell for sure but it sounds reasonable🤔

[vital topaz]

Do you have a very high ping?

[wise grail]

150

My question is just if parrying is client sided only

[vital topaz]

I am not involved in the development so i cant be sure🤷‍♂️

[wise grail]

Alright

[upper galleon]

Parry/block is something i feel they should change a bit.. I feel it is unnecesary hard to know when the right time is to block

and it is not helping that the correct time is very different for different mobs and far from all have clear signs to indicate when that time is

so you kind of have to learn mob by mob

[civic terrace]

Morning ☕️☕️

[upper galleon]

the block skill is not powerfuil enough to warrant it beeing that hard to execute

good morning

[vital topaz]

I think every mob with a (melee) weapon has a specific 'glimmer' animation at the right time

Like a shimmer on the weapon

[tepid drift]

If I had a gold coin for every time I got lost in the shroud, I could afford a decent minimap... or at least a compass that works!

Why was the necromancer kicked out of the tavern? He kept raising spirits without a license!

[carmine scroll]

i think I have too many seedlings planted

they're starting to vanish on me.

[tepid drift]

Adventurer: "What's your strongest 'forget-me-not' potion?"

Alchemist: "Forget you? Darling, I have something better. This potion erases not memories, but inhibitions. Use with caution, and preferably not while using powerful scrolls or making life-altering decisions." Slides over a frothy Purpleberry mead

The alchemist claims this mead recipe was based on ancient texts and meticulous calculations. Everyone else just assumed he got a little too creative after sampling the last batch...

[quasi saffron]

I could build an alchemist's lab. But... Huh.

[tepid drift]

There's one on my server with a hidden chamber in the basement. Just needs some decoration and a cat.

[hearty pond]

he can't he has no money

don't be fooled!

[quasi saffron]

Don't mind the jester here. 👀

[carmine scroll]

I hate clowns.

[hearty pond]

i will send a clown to visit you tonight, he will hide under your bed

his name is IT

[carmine scroll]

He'll get the ngihtwatch hammer then.

you wont recognise his face in the morning.

[hearty pond]

you would beat a defenseless clown with a hammer!

reported!

[carmine scroll]

absolutely 100%

[wet kelp]

if i stop replying to any of you ...It's 6 am and I been up since yesterday 10 am LOL so im dozing in and out. So before i pass out thank you everyone for all the helpful tips to enshrouded. Also thank you all for the fun convos ❤️ best game community out there

[carmine scroll]

GO TO BED

[hearty pond]

i can never do those long awakes anymore, it takes a toll on the body

[carmine scroll]

i made it 23.5 once when I was young. sooo close.

[vapid canopy]

have the most adventurous dreams Nina!

[hearty pond]

15 to 16 hours i can handle, anything after that and it will hurt

[wet kelp]

i haven't eaten yet either....soooo trying to see if im awake enough to get food....

[carmine scroll]

BRUH

[wet kelp]

i was playing enhrouded

and forgot to eat

[carmine scroll]

man my first weekend i played for like 20 hours

[hearty pond]

nina, are you eric cartmen

[carmine scroll]

BUT I ATE

[wet kelp]

maybe

[hearty pond]

what endalrin failed to mention was, he grabbed a rat that was walking by his desk and he ate it

[wet kelp]

i might be....who knows.....

[carmine scroll]

I saw a mouse walk out into my kitchen once

got that sucker in my basement later with a trap.

[hearty pond]

i am reporting you to PETA and RSPCA

[carmine scroll]

my kill count is nothing compared to PETA 🤣

[hearty pond]

you are going to jail! and all the guards are rats!

[carmine scroll]

good. I'll never go hungry.

[hearty pond]

you would eat a raw rat 0j0

what has become of you!

now we know who the real animal is!

[carmine scroll]

mwa ha ha ha ha

[quasi saffron]

I apologize for Huntoctober.
I recently had Balthazar try out a few of his vials on him in an attempt to develop a vial that would increase intellect. We had hope...

[carmine scroll]

looks like it had the opposite effect.

[hearty pond]

🙊

how dare you question me!

[carmine scroll]

🤣

[hearty pond]

a fallen king and a fallen man who went back to his animal instincts!

[quasi saffron]

The animal catcher will be there soon. Then we work on an antidote for the antidote.

As you can clearly see, it is already hallucinating. This... Is definitely thanks to the intelligence-boosting bottle. Mint mushroom meat is probably not suitable for this formula.

[wet kelp]

Nope to tired to eat..I hope you all have have a good day or night or ...time where ever you are. I'm going to try and sleep through my stomach growling at me lol. Laters !

[tepid drift]

Eat a bite of peanut butter or something else so you don't wake up in pain 😂

[carmine scroll]

what's peanut butter?

[upper galleon]

And.. nothing compared to cats.. outdoor cats got huge kill-counts

they are very very efficient little hunters

[carmine scroll]

my brother's friend who was a few doors down from us had a pet cat.

suposedly they never fed it but it was fat as heck

tried to eat our other neighbors bunny once I heard.

[crystal torrent]

Yes, lot of fun when mine dragged home a bat and let it lose indoors. 😆

[carmine scroll]

awwww, bats are so cute!

[crystal torrent]

Yes, love them. Bad cat.

[carmine scroll]

lol

[crystal torrent]

Now given that I love cats and bats, this would be perfect for me. 😄 #screenshots-and-art message

[carmine scroll]

rofl

[tepid drift]

Well, I can cross 'getting licked by a tavern cat' off my bucket list. Makes me wish I hadn't ordered the fish stew.

[carmine scroll]

rofl

[slow basin]

Hi guys I'm restoring this tower #screenshots-and-art message

but I don't understand what the room on the left (red circle) is supopsed to be

because there is a window and the level of the floor is strange

[timid plank]

Thats a gooning chamber

[signal dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/trap-its-a-trap-star-wars-admiral-ackbar-gif-5740548

[hardy turtle]

Next update when ? 😁

[slow basin]

I'm french. what do you mean ?

[tepid drift]

It's a room for gazing into space with their mouth open, drool and noises are optional

[slow basin]

I understand even less

lel

[tepid drift]

Gooning is usually bad slang, I wouldn't use it loosely. However in some gym circles, "gooning" means to work out hard or aggressively, usually focusing on building muscle.

So you could say it's a tiny home gym.

[jovial pasture]

there is another use

[tepid drift]

While rummaging through his attic, Mikey, one of the Goonies, finds an old treasure map. Legend says it leads to the long-lost riches of the famous pirate, One-Eyed Willy.

[quasi saffron]

The true endgame of Enshrouded is to produce explosives. #screenshots-and-art message

[glacial path]

Have they made it so you can choose not to share quest progression yet?

[ocean anvil]

Mornin Ember heads

[prisma surge]

There a good place to find Amber?

[ocean anvil]

yes, check google - many sites and people have posted Amber location on the map

[prisma surge]

My flame altar is hungry it must be fed

[upper galleon]

Below ancient spire of reelwood, down in the shroud ..if you look at the rock surrounding the shroud down inside the srhoud.. there are some places where the rock is orange

[prisma surge]

Yeah I just found it great spot

[distant oar]

look at amd spending time with us:

Fixed Issues
Intermittent application crash when first launching Enshrouded or changing Anti-Aliasing settings on Radeon™ 7000 series graphics products.

[queen rapids]

If I say use these keywords to describe Enshrouded: mushrooms, castles and blocks, someone who have not played Enshrouded would probably say, oh you mean Super Mario bros?

[jovial pasture]

unironically that desribes it pritty well

[quiet geyser]

patiently waiting for an update, so this game is playable on my 4090 🥲 plssssss devs

[hearty pond]

denined

[quiet geyser]

(sad face)

[queen rapids]

not playable, or not playable?

[quiet geyser]

The first one

[queen rapids]

the 4090 is too powerful then.

[tame seal]

Some would say get a better graphics card.

[queen rapids]

That depends on the current situation. a 3060 that can run a game is better than a 4090 that won't run the game at all.

But my guess is that it runs fine on a 4090, just not 144+ fps.

[tame seal]

To my knowledge there isn't a card above min sspec that the game doesn't run on.... it just doesn't run on every card how people would like it to because.... what's this concept? oh yea, early access! Things simply aren't optimised... yet.

[queen rapids]

True and I have no qualms about it either. I just lock my fps to 60. To be honest, the game feels snappy enough in 60 fps but it feels very weird if you dip or are above 60 for some reason.

[tepid drift]

I use a standard 3060 and it runs at max quality pretty well.

[native parrot]

I got qualms.
Lemme at em

[tame seal]

No, Zen, you're not allowed.

[native parrot]

Ever realized people only ever say they don't have qualms?
Like, no one ever says "I have qualms with that."

So where ARE all the qualms???

[crystal torrent]

RTX 4090 at 4K resolution, no scaling and DLSS off, max settings except shadows set at quality, I get 70-110 fps. Set at scaling 2560x1440 and DLSS on quality I hit my screens max 120 fps constantly. Map is bugged though so it drops to around 40 fps.

[tame seal]

Locked away, where they belong.

[native parrot]

But the qualms should be set free!

[tame seal]

They are released in doses, so they can be handled efficiently.

[queen rapids]

Don't sett the qualms free, they are a pain to deal with.

[native parrot]

Prescribed qualms.
There's a thought I didn't think I'd have today.

[tame seal]

Glad to be of assistance.

[native parrot]

🙇‍♂️
🔘
🐢 hello!

💥

[tame seal]

🤣

[native parrot]

I see someone knows asdf

I'm glad.

[limber echo]

where do i go to give feedback, i have a large amount i cant confine it to even just one topic, things like mechanics, bugs, quality of life improvements, etc

[tame seal]

Any problems and such, use the report in game F1 or esc menu. Any suggestions go to

!upvote

[unborn sigil]

Future features can be voted on to show your interest on Feature Upvote!

Adding new suggestions is currently disabled, but please search one of the existing 2600+ suggestions and upvote/comment it, your idea is almost certainly in there already!

Created by random27#0 (787104841360736266)

[tame seal]

You'll find a lot of suggestions there already, upvote/comment the ones you like and such.

[cosmic mango]

Do we know if the new patch is coming out in a few days, im so excited for it

[vagrant magnet]

imagine they drop a big optimization update within a week I would be screaming (in love)

[tame seal]

They said by the end of the month, so most likely the coming week.

[cosmic mango]

Hopefully it involves some new content/building stuff!

[vagrant magnet]

I'm looking for more performance before more contents

[tame seal]

There's been no specifics on what's in it, just hints 😄

[cosmic mango]

@vagrant magnet Optimization is fine for me, what computer specs do you have

[vagrant magnet]

rtx 2060ti i7 10700

it is not just me

[tame seal]

It'll be part and parcel, they'll no doubt do some optimisation AND content.

[vagrant magnet]

my friend with high end rig still have stutter and low fps in the game

[vagrant magnet]

yeah I have no doubt they will smooth out everything and add more stuffs

[cosmic mango]

I do sometimes, with my 3060 but usually fixes its self within the first few minutes. Sorry to hear that

[vagrant magnet]

tbf, I don't think this game look like needing a power house to run xD

just optimization needed to smooth it all out :3

[wraith umbra]

It's because the game is voxel based really

It requires a lot more power than a normal polygon game

[tame seal]

Slightly deceptive, being voxel means it needs more than the 'graphics' would suggest.

[wraith umbra]

Also, custom engine likely has a ton of optimization left

[vagrant magnet]

Minecraft moment

[tepid drift]

This is also why they dont yet have some features like in game chat. Other engines basically have it all set up, a custom engine means working from the ground up on everything.

[halcyon shell]

Guys is saffron growing faster in sand a bug or is intended? Pls, somebody answer me.

🥺

[mossy meteor]

Hmm what settings are you on? There are some ingame Settings Tweaks that give plenty of fps and it still looks beautiful. With an rtx dlss is a big boost. and changing scaling from 75% to 70% for my eye does still look kinda the same but on almost highest settings its smooth. Before Tweaking Settings i also had some stuttering but these worked for me. 2070s currently. Oh and Pointlight shadows on Quality or Balanced. Max Quality caused many stutters there.

[vagrant magnet]

Preset is balanced, DLSS, fog quality low, Tessellation low

[mossy meteor]

what is your resolution and scaling of it currently?

[wraith umbra]

No one knows if it is a bug or not, it makes sense both as a bug and as an intended feature

If you feel it is a bug, just report it

[vagrant magnet]

1440p 100%

[halcyon shell]

Ok I’ll see what the devs will say

[mossy meteor]

oh 100% was big stutter. my scaling was after install at 75% and took it to 70%. try reducing it. even 75% was slight stutter.

[vagrant magnet]

interesting, I will try thank you

[tame seal]

I'd say considering you find saffron in the desert, that it's intentionally growing better in sand.

[mossy meteor]

hope it helps! another big boost is shadows on balanced. quality or max quality does have a big impact on my setup too. with the fog itself i didnt notice big fps changes so left it on quality

[vagrant magnet]

it is on balanced :D

I will run the game now in jungle to see how well it improve

[mossy meteor]

okay hope it will be better. also depending on system on some the v-sync on gives a better result, on some off. so both settings are also good to try

[vagrant magnet]

if V-sync on I would have tearing effect but no improvement overall xD

so far I can feel a big boost in FPS

[mossy meteor]

thats good to hear!

[vagrant magnet]

I will keep on testing but this is feeling smoother so far ❤️ 🐰

[tepid drift]

How fast is it growing?

[halcyon shell]

Faster than fertilised farm soil

Which is just…wrong idk

Every other plant grows incredibly fast in ffs

Fertilised farm soil

[mossy meteor]

sounds great and am happy for you! for the other settings i recommend just sitting somewhere in the world where you have many objects and then trying out. looking at everything and then changing one setting at a time. if it increases performance for you but still visually looks similar/almost no difference its worth changing it. 🙂

[chilly bison]

Maybe it's us who were wrong. Maybe we're the bad guys

[halcyon shell]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-are-we-the-baddies-surprised-gif-19176339

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-18989915

[tepid drift]

I read somewhere that saffron grows fast in dirt as well. Like under fifteen minutes.

[halcyon shell]

That’s good to know, the question is - should I replace the soil with dirt or wait for devs to fix it if it’s a bug?

[tepid drift]

Saffron needs some nutrients, but a heavily amended soil can promote excessive leafy growth instead of flower production. It does grow best in sandy soil with good drainage IRL.

[crystal torrent]

Steam have a fps counter if you want to see your fps. In the Steam launcher, click on Steam at the top left corner menu, select settings, on left hand menu in the new window that pops up select 'In Game', about two thirds down the left hand menu, then in the middle of the window you should have 'In-game FPS counter'.

[vagrant magnet]

I use the NVIDIA counter but yeah I got like 90~100fps instead of 50~60 (and lower) before

Thank you a lot 💖

[crystal torrent]

Nice, that's a massive improvement.

[vagrant magnet]

nearly double yeah

[mossy meteor]

Happy to hear that! Thats a big improvment

[native parrot]

Meanwhile I still play games between 30-50fps

[tame seal]

But you're ooooooold You don't need more.

[native parrot]

👴 I don't see much a 'diff anyway

[tepid drift]

Note to self, cut back on the dragon sneezewort in the shrinking potion recipe.

[vagrant magnet]

a bit more detail, the sunset no longer stutter the heck out :3

[vital path]

Does anyone know if we are getting a map grid system? trying to find stuff can be crazy

[mossy meteor]

true, sunset is somehow very ressource heavy. maybe because of the huge shadows and with a high resolution yeah..good its now not anymore a stutter party

[vagrant magnet]

That party can come as late as they want

[civic terrace]

How’s everyone today?

[quasi saffron]

Mad

[tame seal]

[vapid canopy]

i'm doing great

[formal furnace]

I'm just waiting for..

Water

[tame seal]

Never.

[vagrant magnet]

Element H2O

[dawn cypress]

Hello All, Bosses (Miasma etc.) are respawn??

[subtle prawn]

yes

[wraith umbra]

Compound H2O

[lethal rune]

someday i hope for permanent terraforming

[vagrant magnet]

big brain gamer moment

[lethal rune]

get rid of all the shroud, mushroom by mushroom, and turn red ground back into water... would be cool and grass grows again in those areas

but i guess that in itself would be a whole game that needs to be designed 😦

so instead we're probably getting the RIFT mmo experience

where things that invaded world stay infinitely

and you're just deadlocked because content

[frail raptor]

You have permanent terra forming. It's called put a shrine there😝

[formal furnace]

Akchually

[lament root]

Savan, lengwI'pu'. Sorting my numerous storages, I came to conclusion we definitely need some wall, standing and floor signs that might help me to find necessary resources more quickly. 😩😫

[tame seal]

It's on the roadmap.

[lament root]

Excellent. Thanks

[halcyon shell]

thanks!

[frail raptor]

Your deadlocked because progress is done player side instead of server side otherwise anyone that joins you after you complete anything would be missing out on game experience and/or xp/skill points. Unless you just want things to end, then you should have played an old fashioned RPG game with a definitive beginning and end storyline. I can think of lots of those games, as I've been playing them for over 30 years

[golden vale]

Vahliem > Enshrouded

[tame seal]

Thank you for your opinion!

[lethal rune]

i mean it's about how you implement it, if you have milestones then it shouldn't be a problem in a coop game to add that level of terraforming

[wraith umbra]

For some, I'm finding it the other way around for sure. Valheim was just a long snoozy grindfest 🙂

[prisma frost]

New patch when guys?

[wraith umbra]

Cancelled, game is dead 🙂

[lethal rune]

basically when everyone decides they are done completing/repeating all the mushrooms, the group continues to the next phase, where they permanently terraform world. plus it's not like they couldn't add other ways to get skill points, or make up the skill points through terraforming since the end game has a set number of skill points anyway. not everyone needs to get their 116 skillpoints the same exact way, all that matters is that by the end you have 116.

[golden vale]

im Jk they both are cool games lol.

[formal furnace]

Game is daed

[tame seal]

You've been here long enough, if you don't know by now then you don't deserve to know.

[golden vale]

yeah Valhiem was fun while it lasted

[frail raptor]

Valheim isn't in early access for one and two, just no

[wraith umbra]

valheim is still in early access

[golden vale]

will problably be in early access for 9 years at this rate.

[tame seal]

It's just been in EA for that long it feels like a release.

[wraith umbra]

I think about two more years

[frail raptor]

Care to name what patch number they're in @wraith umbra

[golden vale]

people will be moved on in 2 years.

[green yacht]

0.217.43

[wraith umbra]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/892970/Valheim/

Patch number has nothing to do with it, early access is a program

[lethal rune]

valheim calls their patch 1.0 whatever, but they say they are early access, 😆 that would be funny, if that were the case.

plus saying a complete game is 1.0 always seemed arbitrary to me, if i was a game designer i'd just say a complete game is patch 2.0 just to mess with the system, go against the grain, be a rebel.

[green yacht]

Note the zero there at the start

[frail raptor]

Yep I saw, and that's the longest early access phase I've ever seen...

[lethal rune]

what happens if you do game content to 0.5 and then suddenly your next patch is a complete game? do you just jump to 1.0? when all previous patches were incremental by small margins?

[frail raptor]

Feels longer than three years though fr

[wraith umbra]

You don't play many games then

Some EAs are going on ten years

[chilly bison]

I remember all the updates that said they would have done in the first year OuO they still haven't finished all of them

[green yacht]

Yeah, this is nothing lol

[lethal rune]

i'd actually say 5-7 years is normal and okay for a small team.

[green yacht]

7 Days To Die was early access for like 7 years

Or maybe 12 years

[frail raptor]

I think games like that need to learn the difference between early access and expansion packs....

[wraith umbra]

Is still in early access

[prisma frost]

Really?

[green yacht]

They do. Those are different things

[wraith umbra]

I think you need to learn what Early Access is

[prisma frost]

7 years is crazy

[frail raptor]

It's not a hard concept

[wraith umbra]

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/earlyaccess#:~:text=Early Access is not meant,delivered at a future date.

It isn't a concept Dresden, it's a program

[lethal rune]

EA is all kind of arbitrary though, like maybe you can create some criteria, but it's up to the discretion of the devs mostly too.

[prisma frost]

Adall sending virus again

[pastel oyster]

It's not arbitrary at all - Gamers just need to learn what the word "incomplete" means in gaming.

[green yacht]

It's just a funding model for game development.

[wraith umbra]

Partially yes 🙂

[lethal rune]

im sure some games have beginning middle and end, are still ea, despite meeting all goals of original road maps. ie, yes it's kind of arbitrary.

[green yacht]

No that's literally what it is

There's no partially

[wraith umbra]

Steam itself has stated they won't allow developers to solely use the Early Access program for funding exclusively

There needs to be a little more to it than that

[pastel oyster]

Which?

[green yacht]

what?

[wraith umbra]

I posted the link, you can read it too

[green yacht]

Steam Early Access enables you to sell your game on Steam while it is still being developed

[lethal rune]

i dunno there's thousands of games nobody can actually prove it's not the case, so i'll probably continue to think it's arbitrary.

[pastel oyster]

But you said there are - how can you say for certain if you don't know of one. 🤣

[lethal rune]

i said probably there are 😛 edit: or i am sure there are, i guess true

[wraith umbra]

"What Early Access Is Not
Early Access is not a way to crowdfund development of your product.
You should not use Early Access solely to fund development. If you are counting on selling a specific number of units to complete your game, then you need to think carefully about what it would mean for you or your team if you don't sell that many units. Are you willing to continue developing the game without any sales? Are you willing to seek other forms of investment?"

[prisma frost]

Mama new pfp

[green yacht]

Yeah you're arguing the same thing. I said "early access is a funding model for game development" and you're saying no it's not because there are other funding models.
They can all exist at the same time.

[lethal rune]

"Steam Early Access enables you to sell your game on Steam while it is still being developed" and one can indefinitely decide their game is never complete.

it's arbitrary

[chilly bison]

I generally get a lot more playability out of supposed EA games in recent years than I do complete games. I don't bother trying to give it a specific definition or criteria I just take as more content coming soon-ish. If a game is in EA for the next 40 years just sounds like 40 years of free content updates ;P

[prisma frost]

Lets me grab some popcorn 🍿

[green yacht]

Same, Enshrouded and Grounded both gave me a lot of enjoyment throughout Early Access 😄

[lethal rune]

games like dwarf fortress or even cosmoteer will probably be in 20 year early access

[frail raptor]

Steam has a different definition of"Early Access"than the rest of the game creators in the world, which is getting to play the game a few days earlier than the official release date, but dealing with possible bugs not caught in QA yet. I'm not saying it's wrong, but if they want more "funding" they need to find a good stop point and say, "this is 1.0" and release expansions or DLCs and boom there's your funding

[green yacht]

*few years earlier
lol

[wraith umbra]

Steam started Early Access long before other companies started letting you access it digitally a few days early.

[frail raptor]

That's not the point

[wraith umbra]

When a game on steam is Early Access, it means the steam program

It isn't a "definition" of early access. It's the name of a specific program provided by Steam for developers

[green yacht]

I'm not saying I disagree with you, but if there wasn't money to be made in staying in EA, game companies wouldn't keep doing it.

[pastel oyster]

There is no benefit to keeping a game in EA (they don't get any extra money and the longer it stays in the more toxic the community gets), and many downsides (many people will not buy EA games, staying in EA for too long will begin to garner bad reviews), so why would a publisher do it?

[lethal rune]

“We estimate that Cosmoteer will be in Early Access for about two years, though that is open to change as the scope of the game changes.

lol subject to change = arbitrary 😦

at least for some games/developers its whatever they want basically

[pastel oyster]

Development time is subject to change...

[frail raptor]

Not sure how they keep making it, but I don't have access to inner workings of the game devs business

[lethal rune]

other people have clear goals

[lethal rune]

it's not saying because of development time, the dev is saying subject to change because of scope... it's like saying, i will add more game if i feel like it.

[wraith umbra]

Fair, I see where you're coming from with that now

[pastel oyster]

As they get input from the community, which is part of developing a game in early access...

[mossy meteor]

For me it doesnt matter if games are fully released and get updates or early access and get updates. The most important is that a game is great and fun. There are many fully released games that dont feel complete. And there are many early access games that feel more complete than many fully released games. Id say its therefore impossible to say "a game is then and then early access and then and then fully released".

The most important thing is that a game is fun. A game being called a "full released game" or "early access" is not of importance to me.

[lethal rune]

so you disagree that means it's arbitrary? subjective? what other word?

[tame seal]

I'm sure there are some legal reasons between steam and developers as to why a game can be released as early access etc etc.... from the gamers perspective? It only really means one thing... the games not going to be perfect and to some extend it's an excuse they can blame bugs and stuff on... gamers are just so used to early access these days that they expect them to be full games.

[lethal rune]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/yx1xsv/when_do_you_commit_to_an_early_access_game/ "And many seem like they are in permanent early access. With no release dates to look forward to. Just a steady stream of updates (or sometimes not) and content. I just went through my list, and I have 68 games followed, probably 80% of which are in early access, with no concrete release dates."

[green yacht]

Gamers are also the most entitled group of humans on the planet 😂

[tame seal]

Don't go quotting reddit... lol

[pastel oyster]

I disagree that the term development is arbitrary, yes. Just because a developer changes what happens during development doesn't make the term arbitrary - that happens in the development of anything. Plans always change.

[wraith umbra]

High up there for sure

[lethal rune]

the length of early access is something set by the developers, so it's arbitrary, there is no fixed length for what it should be, it's based on 1 thing "do i consider this game done" and that is always subject to changing. so i think im using the term arbitrary correctly? each individual will have their own reasons sure.

[pastel oyster]

That still doesn't make the term arbitrary...

[green yacht]

I think "arbitrary" implies that it's changing based on a whim, but things don't just change for no reason. They're based on development cycles and projections.

[chilly bison]

Maybe the developers just want to turn up in Tijuana

[green yacht]

Spoken like someone who's never been to a scrum planning meeting. 😂

[frail raptor]

I'm looking forward to the other 60-75% of this game just going off the undeveloped map space so I'll continue to play for years and years, either way. I just want the company to last those years to come since they've made such a great game to start with.

[wraith umbra]

I'm sure they'll be fine.

They've made enough money to pay back their public investor and Germany and continue funding the team for a while, if those are at all stipulations of their deals.

Especially since their goal is to fully release in about a year

[mossy meteor]

yeah i think too scrum is a huge part of developing. the development cycles and scrum meetings are very important in development.

[subtle prawn]

And the company already exists for quite a while and is quite experienced

[lethal rune]

oh okay, well if it's based on "if the game is good enough" but there is no actual goals/roadmap laid out, especially true in 1 man personal projects, it does become closer to arbitrary at least, because it's more subjective imo. they don't know what a complete game would be, they just have ideas of what they want to add, and sometimes when they think they are done, they decide to add 10 more things, and development extends 2 more years. it's not entirely random, but it seems kind of go with the flow more.

[pastel oyster]

I have listened to too many scrum meetings in the last 4 years. It's the only reason I am happy the hubby is going back in to work.

[lethal rune]

who wants to full release in a year?

[green yacht]

That isn't the way things work in a decently sized company.

[wraith umbra]

Keen

[pastel oyster]

lol it isn't how it works in small companies - or if it is, the company won't last long.

[green yacht]

I will absolutely agree with you that little 1-person projects can fall apart if they're not managed well though, and that does happen.

[vale swallow]

Do you have to pay money for G-Portal to have your own persistent server?

[subtle prawn]

Tbh by now we're probably looking at a release of 1.5 to 2y with all the player feedback

[mossy meteor]

if you need for development investors for example you cant be arbitrary. investors for example or even the bank expect you to have a plan, set dates for something like for example scrum meetings with team and so on. its not like "do what you want and arbitrary development". there are certain ways how things work and are planned and so on.

[green yacht]

Absolutely 👆

[lethal rune]

but games like terraria, not a small company i think? just a tangent, they released a full game, and then later added an update that added so much content, one could argue they could have not released the full game before that, and waited to add that content 2 years later, and then call that the full release instead. so it is kind of arbitrary no?

[green yacht]

Even angel investors will drop you if you aren't showing up to those investor meetings with clear indicators of progress, and a transparent map of future milestones.

[pastel oyster]

No. It just means that the developers add content to keep their game relevant.

[green yacht]

Terrarria 1.0 was built in 4 months though too lol

[lethal rune]

same with no mans sky, no mans sky was a full release i think? but it had like 20 updates since each update being 6-15 gigs. they could have EA'd the game, and only done a full release after the 20 updates. and that would have still been logical and fine do.

[pastel oyster]

Adding additional content or features does not mean that the game was incomplete

[tame seal]

Are you trying to say that any game that has any update at all, is never a full released game? 😄

[green yacht]

I think Terraria is a fun example because it was made by 3 guys, and I don't think they expected it to blow up like it did.

[lethal rune]

LOL no mans sky though was pretty incomplete 😛

but i understand what you mean

[vale swallow]

Do you have to pay money for G-Portal to have your own persistent server?

[green yacht]

yes, you have to pay for a GPortal account/server

[tame seal]

Yes.

[chilly bison]

Valheim is quite similar in that regard

[pastel oyster]

No man’s sky was a POS but that also doesn’t mean it was incomplete

[lethal rune]

it was complete, until the dev realized it was not, and then decided to complete it, all without the EA label. so imo all of this seems just decided by humans lol

[vale swallow]

That's pretty sad and weak, unfortunately it's to late to return the game.

[mossy meteor]

it all depends on business plans. companys choose what works best with business plan. and every company or developer is different. but what all have in common is plans, schedules and set meetings. thats what i ment. there are many fully released games with less content then some early access games. there is no clean line between early access games and fully released games.

[pastel oyster]

FFXIV was completely rewritten after it was released, because the reception was terrible. It still doesn’t make 1.0 incomplete

[green yacht]

I thought Valheim was made by a full-fledged game studio. I wasn't into it though, and don't know much about it

[green yacht]

Sorry for your loss. This is how almost every game is today.

[pastel oyster]

They are a small team

[green yacht]

oh yeah cool, google says it was 5 people on Valheim

[civic terrace]

Irongate put out Valheim

[vale swallow]

We have a server we bought just for co-op play and this is the first game we've run into this issue. They should say that somewhere.

[green yacht]

If you already have your own persistent server you can run Enshrouded on it. You asked about GPortal specifically.

[pastel oyster]

no, they decided to change and continue to update it past initial development.

[mossy meteor]

yes if you have a server already it should be no problem.

[vale swallow]

Our server guy has been trying for 2 days to get it to work and after everything was set up the way they instructed it still won't recognize our server.

[pastel oyster]

Head over to #server-support - they should be able to help you there.

[green yacht]

you may have more luck asking for help in #server-support instead of this channel.

[chilly bison]

Did you try tipping your server?

[vale swallow]

That's funny.

Thanks folks!

[chilly bison]

I try my best 😄

[lethal rune]

yeah, well there isn't much criteria even on steam, steam just says "early access allows you to sell a game while it's still in development" there is nothing like your game needs a beginning, middle, end because maybe my game will have a beginning and that's it, no end... or maybe my game has an end and no beginning and is some weird statement lol. they can't say what a game requires to be a complete game... so it's all up to the people making the game, and the people making a game can decide their game is never a full game, never done...

they don't require that early access ends only when future updates of the game make no changes to the game engine.

people have updated the game with huge engine changes after the game was fully released

which is usually something you do before full release

[pastel oyster]

Yeah, I am not gonna waste anymore breath on this - it's like ~~arguing ~~ having a conversation with a carousel.

[lethal rune]

oh i didn't really think we were arguing

[tame seal]

I prefer arguing with seesaws

[lethal rune]

sorry you feel that way

[prisma surge]

If you wake up in the morning standing on your bed you just might be an Enshrouded player.

[pastel oyster]

Too much drama, and I get motion sickness. 🤣

[tame seal]

Now that, i can understand.

[pastel oyster]

I'm just gonna eat breakfast while my cat yells at me. 🤣

[slim hawk]

When it's going to add more weapons ?

[pastel oyster]

Other than what is on the roadmap, we do not know what will be added to the game, or even when what is on there will be added, and any response to this will be conjecture. The only thing we know for sure is that there is an update coming before the end of the month.

[vapid canopy]

hows everyone?

[tame seal]

You tell me.

[green yacht]

There aren't any new weapons on the public roadmap.

[tame seal]

/roll1d20

[pastel oyster]

though that doesn't mean they won't be added. 🙂

[slim hawk]

I saw

Maybe they will anyway, I don't like the ideia of an MMO with 3 weapons 2 being op

[green yacht]

In the immortal words of Justin Beebs, "never say never"

[pastel oyster]

The roadmap is very "big picture" and things like more quests and armor/weapons wouldn't really be on there.

[pastel oyster]

lol this isn't an MMO

[chilly bison]

Next conversation, all the games that mis-label themselves as MMOs

[pastel oyster]

but things like that, and balancing are to be expected when a game is in development. As for when - maybe in a week, maybe in a year.

[green yacht]

Considering the scope of the game in the future (new biomes, more map, increased levels, etc), I'm sure there will be more weapons and stuff

[green yacht]

My favourite MMO is... uh... thinks of something contentious uh... Monopoly

[tame seal]

Anything's an MMO if you believe hard enough!

[crystal torrent]

@green yacht Well it's a multiplayer anyway 😆

[viral sky]

Two obese players playing online together. MMO

[chilly bison]

Where is the Jury on that one?

[crystal torrent]

It's out, way out.

[viral sky]

Words, meanings, interpretations

[ocean anvil]

lol

[native parrot]

I get it.

[patent crown]

Guys, is the carpenter's chamber buried?

[tame seal]

In the shroud you mean?

[pastel oyster]

Not buried - you have to go in the shroud, around the hill you see it in.

[tame seal]

The entry is in the shroud.

[patent crown]

ok

[split geyser]

Bro the big update they talked about better have the fix for the locked fps

[tame seal]

Nah, they're leaving it out, just to wind you up.

[split geyser]

I get the joke but im fr

[tame seal]

What are ya gonna do if they don't, hmm?

[split geyser]

If they don't fix it I will get involved personally. They better not force my hand..

(I will do absolutely nothing about it)

[tame seal]

Sounds like the perfect course of action,

[split geyser]

I've been wanting to play since it came out but that's holding me and my friends back.

1. fps lock
2. no individual quest progression

I'm somewhat confident number 2 will be introduced in their big patch

[tame seal]

I believe they have teased that, yea.

[wraith umbra]

i don't think you're getting your FPS vibes fix

but the beta branch may launch

[wet kelp]

evening everyone !

[tame seal]

G'day.

[wet kelp]

hope everyone had a wonderful day

[rancid goblet]

isn't the game supposed to save it self when logging out on singleplayer?

[tame seal]

It should, yes.

[rancid goblet]

mine failed to do that...

[tame seal]

How so?

[rancid goblet]

lost about 5 minutes of play time

it simply did not save when using the quit button

[wet kelp]

its done it tot me as well

[tame seal]

Anything noticeable you lost/changes you made being undone?

[rancid goblet]

yep

[tame seal]

Example?

[rancid goblet]

where can i post a picture?

[tame seal]

https://discord.com/channels/1046840540550942720/1046840542006345841

[rancid goblet]

picture i just posted

the steps were all redone and loading back in they are at vanilla value

only player inventory saved

changes to chest inventory were not saved so i lost alot of blocks

[tame seal]

Hmmm, interesting. I've not experienced it personally. I'd suggest submitting a bug report in game so it's something they have on their radar.

[rancid goblet]

do they have a bug report function here?

[tame seal]

Yup, either F1 or esc menu.

Oh, sorry, here no.

In game.

[rancid goblet]

ok. thanks for the pointer

yea this does not happen often to me but once in a while it does

[tame seal]

It looks like you're rebuilding a structure? Perhaps it has something to do with that.

[rancid goblet]

i am but i have no clue. i rebuilt most of East Lapis without having that problem

[tame seal]

Wild guess, it might just simply have something to do with a single block in a prebuilt wall or something.

[rancid goblet]

when i rebuild i place a block down in it then delete the block which clears the entire area inside of the placed block then put the block down again the way i want it

[tame seal]

Just for future protection though, it's possibly worth making a backup of your save file every so often just in case.

[rancid goblet]

well backing up does no good since it was not saving to begin with

[tame seal]

Just in case you lose more than 5 minutes and a lot of materials or such, at least you have a way of getting something back.

[rancid goblet]

that does not help. have to have a newer save to begin with

the game only loaded in the save that was there

so if it fails to save anything when quitting the game then there is nothing to backup

not sure if i am explaining this right.....

[formal furnace]

AAAGUAAAA

EAUUUU

WASERRR

WATERRR

[pastel oyster]

Please don't do that again, I have an allergy headache and that just hurt my head.

[tame seal]

You're explaining it fine. I know what you mean and yes, a backup will be before that round of play. But if you're having save issues, it in general never hurts to have a backup from the last time it did say (The last session played or such)

[pastel oyster]

Forgive me, I didn't go back and read the whole thing, but have you already submitted a bug report for this?

[rancid goblet]

not yet

[tame seal]

I have suggested they do so.

[pastel oyster]

Definitely do that.

As for the game not saving - I do recall reading something about it, but I believe it was "not saving at all" - let me do a bit of sleuthing and see if I can find anything that might help you out.

[rancid goblet]

yea that was my issue. it did not save at all when using the quit button. though this does not normally happen.

[pastel oyster]

I mean no auto saves or anything. you would have lost everything, not 5 minutes 🙂

[rancid goblet]

oh

yea i only lost about 5 minutes

[tame seal]

Do you have cloudsave on?

[rancid goblet]

just sent bug report

yea

[tame seal]

It might have something to do with that, but i wouldn't gurantee.

[rancid goblet]

i tried turning it off and copying the save once but the game refused to see it and load it so i turned it back on and left it on

[tame seal]

Cloudsaves are special. When they work, they work well... when they break, they break well 😄

[pastel oyster]

The save file locations are different - when you copied the folder, did you put it in a different folder or the "remote" folder?

[rancid goblet]

despite some of these issues with the game, keen did an amazing job making this all work and work well and well optimized

[rancid goblet]

i followed some instructions. it was a while ago so i do not remember where the local save was supposed to be

[pastel oyster]

The local save folder is: C:\Users\yourusername\Saved Games\Enshrouded

[rancid goblet]

ah yep that is what i tried

game would not read it for some reason

so i left the cloud save on

[pastel oyster]

did you copy everything in the folder over?

[rancid goblet]

yea

[pastel oyster]

Okay so there is this: #common-issues message

[rancid goblet]

hmm dunno how to "join" that one thread

[pastel oyster]

It seems like it's a relatively uncommon issue, but it can happen. I would say submit your logs in that link, and hope they can find a solution. until then, just make sure not to log off right away after doing something major.

[rancid goblet]

ah yea ok

[pastel oyster]

click the three dots

[rancid goblet]

ah

yea normally i wander around a while after building

maybe that is why i rarely ever see the issue

[hollow geyser]

Does anyone know if I can summon the Npc survivors to more than one base (Flame alter)?

[pastel oyster]

At the moment, no - but it's on the roadmap

[hollow geyser]

Thankyou !

[prisma surge]

We need xray vision mode for building lol

[olive bramble]

lol what?

[crystal torrent]

Since we play in 3rd person mode, our character gets in the way a bit when placing building pieces.

It helps a little to move the camera using Page Up/Down buttons.

[prisma surge]

yeah that's making a real pain at times especially excavating underground and no room to back up

[olive bramble]

ah i see

[prisma surge]

Trying to figure out where this tunnel is going to come out so I can hit my crafting hall without having to dig everything up

[olive bramble]

i would like smth like the flying mite thing from Grounded so we have free building camera

[prisma surge]

that might work

76 has free camera now too

[plucky jetty]

I was just about to say it would be nice to have free camera buliding mode like in 76! would make the building even better.

[prisma surge]

I've spent countless hours trying to line things up in first person in 76

[crystal torrent]

I'm pretty sure the devs have a free camera build mode, I have a hard time seeing them run around with a character with a hammer in their hand. If they will let us use it though is another thing, breaking immersion and so on.

[wraith umbra]

there are cheat engines you can download that provide some camera options

[wet kelp]

was it ever said when the next major patch would be?

[wraith umbra]

This month

[crystal torrent]

Next week or the week after that, it's the closest info we have.

[wet kelp]

HAZZAH!

now what's gonna be in it?

[wraith umbra]

you'll find out when notes drop

[crystal torrent]

Bug fixes for sure, anything else is just guesses.

[plucky jetty]

I heard while listening to a twitch stream we will end up getting animals that we can build a farm with? I am curious if this is a real possibility? or just a rumor

[wraith umbra]

A rumor

[wet kelp]

well we will but it being in that patch is most likely a rumor

[crystal torrent]

It's in the road map, when it will come no one knows yet.

[wet kelp]

i dont see that one being released so soon

however if it is . I'll be impressed .

[wraith umbra]

I assume the entire top portion of the roadmap is this patch and then the next 4-6 months

[plucky jetty]

the road map image was so tiny that I could not see everything on it so that is why i am asking! I figured not in this update but wanted to know if it was soemthing to look foward to.

[crystal torrent]

The road map says farm animals, but if they are useful in any way or just decoration there's no word yet.

[wet kelp]

dates would of been helpful. How large is the Dev Team?

[plucky jetty]

Honestly I will be happy with anything so far this game is amazing and it just keeps getting better

[wraith umbra]

I assume they will provide whatever resources they normally do

[wraith umbra]

They'll never give dates, they are too experienced for that.

The team is 50+ people

[wet kelp]

so they have the people to dish out patches often that's wonderful news

[crystal torrent]

You can view the road map in your browser and it's much larger, like here. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1047448895287992320/1217474534949781574/EN_ROADMAP_FINAL.png?ex=660d6304&is=65faee04&hm=02dcc1398d8d031bac62f1f4d1fb3ae637b2696153492c3bc17a1c98eae0a401&

[plucky jetty]

I saw that! I just opened it up right before you sent this lol but thank you for showing me! on steam it is so tiny.

[wet kelp]

most games i play have dev teams of like 1 to 10 people.

so they rarely get patched

[crystal torrent]

The plan is to try to have a patch or content update every month, but don't take that as a sure thing, Murphy happens and delays are unavoidable sometimes.

[wet kelp]

yeah sounds good to me, its what Star stables online does. Every month they add something new to the game most horse breeds though cause it is a horse game. However 100% you get a new horse breed each month added into the game. I love it....but its bad for my allwet cause the horses cost real money .

[crystal torrent]

Hehe gotta collect them all.

[wet kelp]

i know ! pokemon has ruined....i need them all....every coat ...every breed......

[vapid canopy]

palworld...

[wet kelp]

dont do this to me....not palworld

🤣

[vapid canopy]

you don't like it?

[plucky jetty]

it is special..

[wet kelp]

@vital topaz the screenshots and art channel the art. Does it need to be enshrouded related or art in general ? we need a art share channel.

[vital topaz]

you can share art in the screenshots and art channel. just dont spam 😉

[wet kelp]

Sweet!

[prisma surge]

hmm bronze bars, something else to find

[crystal torrent]

There's also the #other-games channel if it's related to another game.

[plucky jetty]

there are bronze bars? i still haven't found copper bars

[prisma surge]

yeah tin bars too I found

[crystal torrent]

Copper bronze tin iron.

[prisma surge]

And the smith sent me to find iron but I think thats a little down the road

[crystal torrent]

Iron is far to the east.

[prisma surge]

yeah its on my map dont think im getting there for awhile yet

[crystal torrent]

Recommend level 20 and above.

[wraith umbra]

Kill the dragon at level 4, get iron at level 6

[prisma surge]

the wisp wyvern? yeah already got him

[crystal torrent]

lol yes it can be done, as long as you'll never get hit by anything.

[prisma frost]

Who killed the dragon at level 4?

[plucky jetty]

a dragon?

[prisma surge]

not really a dragon its a wyvern

[crystal torrent]

Wisp Wyvern.

[wet kelp]

it looks more like a drake

[crystal torrent]

Big blue lizzard.

[prisma frost]

What weapon did you use?

[wet kelp]

bow

[wraith umbra]

I killed the dragon at level 4 while doing my shroud root test run the other day

[prisma surge]

You have level 3 passage at level 4?

[wet kelp]

not that hard to do if you pull stuff over from another world

and start a new character

or jsut start a new character

[prisma surge]

So new characters dont have to start all over?

[wraith umbra]

Not if they join an established world

Characters and worlds are separate things

[wet kelp]

yeah

what adall said

we need haunted spooky looking areas in the game that nots in the shroud

so we can make spookies

[quasi saffron]

I join in pieces.

[wet kelp]

part of me wants to start inviting people into my game

but...what if they pick all my flowers

LOL

[plucky jetty]

lol that is a little to real

[wraith umbra]

I'll just mow the lawn

Promise

[wet kelp]

i spent 3 days planting all those flowers

it would ruin me.....LOL I'm still planting them

[plucky jetty]

the flowers look so pretty in the game so i do not blame you and the lil strawberries T.T

[quasi saffron]

I'd just take your coins. Promise.

[plucky jetty]

Woah it looks so cute! where did you get those fences 😮

[wet kelp]

FOOL! i keep those on me...aint no one taking my coin LOLOL

[wet kelp]

hold on

[prisma surge]

The fireplaces seem bugged other than the basic one you start with

[wraith umbra]

I think they just need to rename them, we have too many "fireplace" items in the game

[prisma surge]

well I cant cook with any of them and they make my rested stats blink

[wraith umbra]

I don't think it's important that each fireplace allows you to cook

[prisma surge]

And I dont get any increase in comfort bonus

[wraith umbra]

That's a bug

[prisma surge]

Yeah I just built the Brick Fireplace. No effect on comfort level still the same.

[wraith umbra]

Feel free to report it, but I'm sure they know at this point

[wet kelp]

BTW @severe nymph is evil ...yup dont trust her...she'll pick your flowers and be like " ooops"

[wraith umbra]

Not surprised

[severe nymph]

Oof

[wet kelp]

that's the wicked witch right there

of the south

[severe nymph]

Yup..soooo wicked

[wraith umbra]

Publically called out though

[severe nymph]

Yeah, thats okay. Its not AS frowned upon now a days

[quasi saffron]

Alot of purple on the right side..

[wet kelp]

it's for the greater good

[prisma surge]

Hey no picking the flowers

[severe nymph]

I didnt mean too u.u

[wet kelp]

T_T and she doesn't even replant them

[south rivet]

how do I invite my wife to my private game

[wraith umbra]

Ask her nicely

[finite forum]

Through your steam friends & chat bar, click her profile and there should be an option to invite to game

[south rivet]

there's no option do I have to host is as public

[finite forum]

yeah but be sure to put a password on it so randoms dont troll your server