📕┇lore

[teal blaze]

Yeah, they were the exact same ones iirc, I have them so I'll send a screenshot when I get in game later if you'd like

I think it was the pro circuit, page one, maybe?

[tardy spoke]

Yeah im looking at the wiki page and it’s the same sneak slip-ons that comes with the current iseult set

Whew for a second I thought I missed a different version of the shoes

[teal blaze]

Are they selling the shoes in a set now? I wasn't aware of that, mb!

[tardy spoke]

nah it’s not your fault it was my confusion because the charm has a purple lining to it that made me think it was new haha

[teal blaze]

Oh, I see what you mean. That's just the glitch wall effect on the charm. It's a neat one, tho

[empty mural]

Anyone figure out what's up with the holtow website update?

[woven sedge]

what if back in the day the finals contestants fought in real life like hunger games and Scotty was one of them

[woven sedge]

what if when Scotty says that he is implying that he actually had to fight in the finals in real life. There is no reason for you to get muscular atrophy in a video game so the finals must have used to be like hunger games in real life

[untold canopy]

What if Scotty is patient zero?

[gentle bronze]

what if he's a ghost in the machine like one of the dead animus guys in assassin's creed

[woven sedge]

Maybe one time Scotty tried to unite all of the finals teams to fight against the security and escape from the finals because they didn't want to kill each other and tried to rebel. Then the security defeated the rebellion, captured and killed all of the other contestants but The Finals kept Scotty alive and put his brain inside of a computer and forced him to be an announcer for forever as punishment. That's why his voice sounds automated, he's speaking through a computer.

[gusty hazel]

Dis sun

[hasty sigil]

me when i bounce pad irl and break both of my knees

[woven sedge]

also, remember that picture of scotty like what if that was dried blood on his shirt

and how sometimes the finals characters randomly ragdoll instead of turning into coins

[solemn tulip]

what is kimi raikkonen doing in chat??

[woven sedge]

Also, he has the SWD goggles and an mp5 so it's probably from a long time ago before the finals had all the fantasy stuff when it was irl like hunger games

[woven sedge]

nah bro I got all of the lore figured out I'm not tweaking

[solemn tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-wow-yay-omg-really-gif-15731645

[woven sedge]

I swear

[gray crane]

Then tell us

[solemn tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/promise-wren-weichman-corridor-crew-can-you-promise-you-swear-gif-26537825

[woven sedge]

the finals used to be irl so you can actually die and stuff

[woven sedge]

and the green barrel is actually galaxy gas cuz one time I started taking the green barrel on prupose and I started tweaking out

so the galaxy gas is actually keeping us trapped in the finals and we need to break free

I still haven't figured out what the other barrels mean, it took me like a month to figure out the green one but I know they mean something and I'll figure it out eventually

[gray crane]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-confused-what-rabbit-cute-gif-15285567

Wha…

???

[woven sedge]

Alr bro, I can't carry this chat all by myself I'm going to take a vacation, someone can figure some lore out too. Like I'm gonna pass the mic if you know what I mean, like a proverbial microphone but I can't actually pass it because we're on too much galaxy gas

[gray crane]

People dislike hanging out in the meat-vers(irl) so they spend their time in the metaverse. The crowd are people in the metaverse. The finals contestants use special gear to play.

-I’m out chat

[wet ibex]

wait guys theyre onto something

[woven sedge]

bro they (the finals) are on something WE are onto something

[hasty sigil]

its different flavors

[woven sedge]

does anyone know when the finals gameshow originally started

[wet ibex]

could the glitch barrel be like idk anti drug mixture

[woven sedge]

no it makes you start crashing out and punching the air like that dude in the polish movie

so since the finals was originally from like the 80s they were definitely using real people. Like Scotty was probably having to fight that big ass hammer guy while tweaking off galaxy gas do you know how much coordination that would take and how scary that would be to do in real life

[untold canopy]

With his mixed assortment of gear and weapons from the 80s and 90s, what if he was part of a failed super soldier experiment conducted by scientists in contract for the military, and since he could be patient zero, what if he killed all the contestants in the first game?

[undone snow]

How has Scotty lived to be over 100 years old and still sounding like he in his 40s

[woven sedge]

he got transfered to being a virtual person. The way Iseult describes their clothing makes it seem like the people are actually just being translated to virtual form. What if Scotty tried to lead a rebellion against the finals by teaming up with the other teams when they stopped taking the galaxy gas but then they we're defeated and scotty got killed and then his consience got put inside of the finals which is why he sounds like a robot.

[undone snow]

I love that you're incorporating galaxy gas into the lore here lol

[woven sedge]

like all of the people we're fighting and then Scotty stood on top of the tallest crane and hacked the microphone system and slammed his gun on the ground and said, "I'm not afraid to take a stand everybody come take my hand" and everyone stopped fighting and teamed up to fight the security guards instead

@untold canopy came up with theory that your teamates who talk too loud are actually sonar grenades

[idle spear]

Why is Evan_86 actually cooking up with these theories tho

They make so much sense

[hasty sigil]

why is the moon on skyway stadium red

id post a screenshot but it wont let me

[woven sedge]

There was this heavy guy with the red jacket but he was really round and was actually the biggest red heavy dude ever so you just think it's the moon but it's actually a the big red heavy who hit the jump pad in the zero g event and is still stuck up there

[woven sedge]

that's one of the smartest things I've heard ever

[abstract root]

Anyone hear whispering during the countdown when ur choosing ur weapons?

[dim bison]

So uhh, what is the lore?

[undone snow]

The gist of it is that the finals is a virtual game show with a wide variety of sponsors that are all important for different reasons.
There is also a group called CNS that hacked the finals during season 2 and are the reason we have terminal attack and syshorizon.

[abstract root]

Hey next time yall are in the lobby screen where your waiting for ur teammates and ur choosing guns and while the crowd is counting down listen closely and lmk if u hear the whispering iv seen 2 other people hearing it

[lethal igloo]

It’s probably the OST

https://open.spotify.com/track/5QuN3esQQLBVKPqNsKols3?si=kjhceTRpRiCwH_9Iilh4rg&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A6hNwygvY7mqq6uoJ5lreQD

[abstract root]

Idk cause it’s only during the count down and some say they can hear it during respawning

[lethal igloo]

This song has whispering in it. Confused me a ton the first time I heard it

[lethal igloo]

Those people might be ill idk

That would be interesting though

[abstract root]

If it’s for Halloween that’s cool but it creeps me out cause it’s just whispers but u can’t make out what there saying and u can mainly start hearing it when the crowds countdown is loud

Like at 5 4 3 2 1

[stoic tangle]

E

[clear surge]

Is this Scotty? I thought this was just some random concept/promo image????

[heady garnet]

jk

JK

boof

right

[heady garnet]

yee

yes

yes

[fickle tartan]

the light girl is menendez

[mint sigil]

Yoyoyo

[ornate kiln]

I noticed that Holtow's website shows an insurance card

[dry crystal]

HOLTOW: Brighter Than Ever

[compact ridge]

wait, i thought we're just some goofy E-Sport players in a virtual shooting game fighting for fame. It's much more deeper than that? WDYM HOLTOW IS DOING SOMETHING TO THE SUN

[coarse sinew]

Yeah

[coarse sinew]

Wdym

[compact ridge]

i think last night i saw someone mentioned holtow doing something in the real world

[coarse sinew]

Ok

[woven sedge]

It's all of the people who fell off Seoul map crashing out because they got hit with the blue barrel

[brisk needle]

So real

[sick brook]

I have heard it too

[crystal phoenix]

Is it not the number 12 for everyone else? 💀

Damnn

[fervent marsh]

Is it just me or is Scotty less sarcastic?

Also some of their lines don’t have subtitles so is it a bug or they meant to do that?

[oak dawn]

lore drop: scotty is going to therapy

[worthy carbon]

I have 34, a mate has 18

we've just come here looking for why that might be

[bleak olive]

Does anyone know what the numbers on the gun mean. The deaufault skins have a clock in them, what does it mean.
The finals | 00:00:00

[snow island]

?

[gentle bronze]

Hey everyone, I need some help with CNS lore. Are they a friendly hacker organisation? They seem to just "hack" the game by adding maps, items, etc... Making it more intersting. Is CNS allowed to do this stuff? Are they simply a marketing stunt done by The Finals?

[crystal phoenix]

i need 7 or 9 😭 and i got 29

@worthy carbon as he said

[abstract root]

So I’m not trippin okay

[trail wren]

their true intentions are still unknown, but they haven't been as malicious as the showrunners made them seem. MultiCo used CNS' takeover as a marketing tactic while working in the background to get rid of them

[gentle bronze]

That's pretty much what I can see. The announcers seem to mostly just write it off as "oh well, CNS is back at it again".

[trim bloom]

what is örf 😭😭😭

[boreal vapor]

Seems to be the Finals universe’s version of Hello Kitty

[gentle bronze]

Just a cutesy brand, probably some sort of clothing/cartoon type thing (Like hello kitty)

[urban pilot]

What is Dissun ?

[bitter tangle]

be CNS
hack the most popular gameshow on the planet
says "we are here to change the game"
adds 3 guns, one of which goes down as the most dogshit weapon in the entire game
adds 3 gadgets, one of which nobody ever uses
adds a gamemode that everyone hated for season 3
fucking dies
refuses to elaborate

what was their plan

[gentle bronze]

Three steps ahead

[knotty fractal]

What gadget?

[bitter tangle]

data reshaper

[knotty fractal]

Best gadget for power shift

[gentle bronze]

data reshaper kinda ass

[knotty fractal]

Nah

[gentle bronze]

but I FW a lot of the other ones,

[dawn scarab]

it's just general theming/branding. it likely was gonna be an onboard timer for the weapons but it mustve been forgotten about/abandoned

[bleak olive]

Oh. Thats a bummer

[tight pendant]

Who said they were dead

[dry crystal]

@placid arch read some of this it’s interesting

[placid arch]

Okiii !!!

[dry crystal]

The big paragraphs

[cobalt badger]

Anyone else make personal lore for your contestants? Basically why do they want/need the prize money?

[tight pendant]

My embark id is virtualfashion

[surreal stone]

anyone know the implications for this in colorblind mode?

i geuss its not entirely lore but having a rarity system like this when its not used in the game is odd no?

[sleek kraken]

Items

Item rarity. Thats it. The color around the name.

[surreal stone]

epic rarity tho, do we evil have that

[sleek kraken]

Yes

[surreal stone]

huh??? i aint got no green items?

[sleek kraken]

Wait green huh? Swear epic was purple

[surreal stone]

nope

look at the ss

[lethal igloo]

It’s for cosmetics

[teal blaze]

Swapping through the colorblind modes fast enough completely messes up the demonstration below the setting, epic is purple, it's just that this person shuffled through them and glitched the display

[teal blaze]

never noticed this in the official art before, i wonder if it's canon that ospuze also sells beans. probably not.

[quartz island]

Yes, I was wondering this the other day

[brisk needle]

Would be funny if they sold beans as well

[old belfry]

the beanals

[idle wharf]

So is the Finals a happy Utopia or a Happy Dystopia?

Reading through outfit descriptions you encounter wierd stuff on the regular

Like how everyone casually refers to IRL as "the meatspace"

Also the fact that Ozpuze is described as counting as a "vegatable"

[sinful forge]

Oh and engimos terms and conditions

[idle wharf]

What do they have in them?

Also where can you find them?

[sinful forge]

Stuff about ignoring some activities or another

I saw it when signing, now I can't go back to double check

[idle wharf]

Don't remember that when I signed for them, but I was also just spamming M through the menus so

[sinful forge]

It was at the bottom in classic small text

Hard to notice, I was actively looking for it

[weary rapids]

does anyone know hpw do i arrange the teams in private matches like i wanna play with my friends but i need to arrange everyone in different teams does anyone know how to do it?

[feral wind]

Not sure if this is the right area for it but like, does anyone know what the numbers represent on all the new stuff? I have one number and my friends have other numbers.
Like on the fencing outfit.

[cerulean zenith]

hey anyone noticed the moon?

[final bobcat]

https://youtu.be/aS6le2wS-3c?si=zVHzcPOWd73irfWo

[mint jetty]

Hey, i don't know if this website is official, but the ospuze.com website has been more fleshed out. Can somebody update the wiki to include this?

[teal blaze]

Fleshed out in what ways, exactly?

[mint jetty]

Instead of just being one page with the main image, it has a whole website attached to it

I don't know if it's been mentioned before, but the wiki doesn't have it.

[teal blaze]

Oh, it's had other pages for some time now

[mint jetty]

Rough, I guess I was too late lol. Is the gmail on it real?

[teal blaze]

Ah, didn't realize that

[teal blaze]

It goes somewhere but as far as I know no one's gotten a response from them before

[mint jetty]

I see

[final bobcat]

They have an email

[zinc zealot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/777374766980923415/980516426223845406/caption-1.gif

[trail wren]

EE related

[haughty oriole]

Here is some lore on what Scotty has been drinking

Here is the label information from the image:

Nutrition Facts (per 420 mL serving)

• Calories: 510
• Total Fat: 0.2 g (1% Daily Value)
  • Saturated: 0.1 g (1%)
  • Trans Fat: 0 g
• Cholesterol: 15 mg (21.5%)
• Sodium: 460 mg (20%)
• Potassium: 3050 mg (90%)
• Carbohydrates: 117 g (54%)
  • Fiber: 1 g (4%)
  • Sugars: 64 g
• Protein: 5 g (10%)
• Vitamin C: 45 mg (50%)
• Iron: 0.7 mg (4%)
• Calcium: 105 mg (8%)

Ingredients:

• Orange Juice
• Water
• Glucose-Fructose Syrup
• Crustaceans
• Alaskan king imitation (made from surimi)
• Salt
• Citric Acid
• Potassium Sorbate
• Citric Acid

Contains: Milk, Egg, Mustard, and Crustaceans

The bottom of the label also mentions that the product contains traces of eggs, which indicates possible cross-contamination.
Based on the ingredients, this drink likely has a sweet, tangy, and slightly savory taste. Here's a breakdown of what each major component might contribute:

• Orange juice: This would provide a tangy, citrusy, and somewhat sweet flavor as the primary taste.
• Glucose-Fructose Syrup: Adds a significant sweetness, making the drink very sugary.
• Crustaceans (Alaskan king imitation made from surimi): This is quite unusual for a beverage, but it might add a subtle savory, briny, or fishy note, though it's possible it's masked by the sweetness and citrus.
• Citric Acid: Enhances the tanginess and sharpness from the orange juice.
• Salt: A small amount of salt can enhance other flavors, possibly adding some depth and balance.

Overall, it would likely taste very sweet and tangy, with some possible savory or umami notes due to the crustacean ingredient. This could create an unusual flavor combination that some might find weird for a drink.
Also egg? 🥚 is the Namatama yoke thing true all along?

[sour yarrow]

Aight so tell me please what’s the lore so far

[robust sleet]

Ospuze is life

[clever cloak]

better than prime

[sour yarrow]

Got a point there

[tight pendant]

Pop. Pour. Perform.

Need to see the marketing team reach out to a energy drink to release a limited edition supply of ospuze

[brisk needle]

Damn I would drink it but.. shellfish allergy

[sour yarrow]

You get the Zero one without it lol

[brisk needle]

Ah hell yeah

[sour yarrow]

I got ya

[low sundial]

Which Ospuze can is this? I was looking at the Ospuze charm the other day and it had completely different information.

[gentle bronze]

The credits message from Multico this season reveals and confirms that all sponsors, atleast Engimo, iseul-t and Holtow are owned by Multico. It also mentions that all contestants that participate in this “new era of entertainment” agree to some sort of cryptic “new agreement” Multico has made.

Probably already mentioned but thought I’d throw it in for good measure!

[lime spoke]

heya, can i mention something i found? its not really an easter egg, more rather lore...
why is oszpuse not a sponsor option? i mean holtow, iseult and engimo are all staple sponsors of the series, but with oszpuse being such a core brand, it feels strange to have the set aside to the battlepass...

furthermore, what happened to the other sponsors? volpe? dissun? volpe sponsored the jump pads on skyway stadium, but suddenly that seems to have been dropped?
My point being, with the cutscenes we've seen mentioning multico had a meeting with Engimo, Iseult and Holtow, as well as scotty loving Oszpuse, it feels like MultiCo is trying to rule out sponsors which may be affiliated with CNS?

[lime spoke]

especially given the notices that you sigh with when you choose the sponsors:
Holtow tells you not to question the legitimacy of their sun insurance, iseult tells you that you can be anyone but be iseult... they all have different agreement terms

[trail wren]

OSPUZE is an OG sponsor who sponsors the entirety of the gameshow, which is why we got their new default cosmetics + more in the BP

[ripe igloo]

I don't think anything has happened to Volpe nor Dissun, they've just been left behind when it comes to being sponsor canditates, likely solely due to development time restrictions. I like to think they'll be introduced as future canditates. OSPUZE is also the primary sponsor of this whole season, thus the reason why we got free cosmetics.

[lime spoke]

ahh okay, i mean it'd make sense - its just also that scotty is very much affiliated with ospuze, whether or not its clear he drinks it... multico owns scotty, june so on and so forth, so wondering if ospuse was involved? i'm sorry, very interested in the lore but not the brightest one here

[trail wren]

it’s all good

[lime spoke]

also, i found this video? its their only video but it'd make sense? opinions? https://youtu.be/aS6le2wS-3c?si=oBIOWRV2fG_Rmv2p

[trail wren]

i saw it, it’s a good video but it only uses surface level info from S3 and S4

[lime spoke]

And to be fair, thats more information than I have - it went straight over my head, was very interesting but I felt so behind on everything, I was mostly active in season 1 ahah...
Whatever happens, please ensure nama tama isn't really evil

cns can cause more chaos (which would probably be a blessing in disguise for us), multico can go haywire, as long as nama tama stays wholesome then everything is right in the meatspace

but yeah, thank you so much for dealing with my awful questions xD

[ripe rock]

Volpe sponsorship or main sponsor would be fire 🥊

What do yall think of this video ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS6le2wS-3c

the one I told you about @ripe igloo

[ripe rock]

Mb I just sent the same video

[ripe rock]

Same

[haughty oriole]

Info from another charm

[woven sedge]

The green barrels are galaxy gas that is keeping us trapped in the finals and the different colors are different flavors

[gentle bronze]

Hey guys, me and my friends are dressing up as MultiCo maintenance for halloween, I made a couple USB drives that contain some messages and cryptic stuff from CNS. I plan on giving these to some friends, etc... What do you think?

[ripe rock]

Great idea, maybe get some CNS/Multico stickers to hand out to your friends

[pastel raptor]

I want tristan+ merch

[safe plank]

have yall seen the code on the piece of paper

[sullen karma]

There should be some lore where they let you throw the spear

[cunning lagoon]

Adding on there's an advertisement for Dissun in one of the Iseul-t areas of Fortune Stadium, so they likely haven't been dropped

[gentle bronze]

We still don’t know who Mckenzie is?

[trail wren]

we've known since OB. Mackenzie Lapis, CEO of Volpe

[amber depot]

Hey guys, is there any discord for the easter eggs hunters?

[trail wren]

#easter-eggs

[amber depot]

Thanks!

[half anchor]

damn, the old voice of scotty looks so different from the new voice

kinda makes me nostalgic for the old scotty's AI voice from se1

[gentle bronze]

The amount of French being used in S4 is interesting to me.
The ingredients of the Ospuze can is half English, half French. Ospuze possibly a French company? Definitely an intentional detail that is very specific / interesting.

There is also the first finals S4 soundtrack song w vocals, also in French.

Merciless Marcel, one of the first characters confirmed in Multico, also has a French rooted name.

I also recall mentions of CNS interferences being in French as well? The sound gesture for CNS is titled “CNS Communiqué”

Hint at S5? Paris maybe? 🤔 curious to everyone’s thoughts and if you notice French popping up anywhere else lol

[clear vector]

Imagine hitting quickscopes from the Eiffel Tower

[rain sail]

Is it me or June is stealing Scotty's thunder? I never heard them complain on the mic

[ripe igloo]

One of the season 4 soundtracks also has lyrics sung out by French-accented people, "Absorb" being the key word used in the song. Also seems to be used in Iseul-t's area in Fortune Stadium.

[lament crane]

shes my friends wife shes pretty cool

[velvet pond]

light lore

[lost flame]

Is that AI generated "voice call" on the subreddit legit or bs?

[trail wren]

yes these are interesting indeed, but this ain't the first time CNS has used another language to hint something. when they started their hacks they sent a message in Spanish in the SA LFG channel ("CNS La Única Explicación"), which we sorta linked to OSPUZE who's CEO is Sofia and their S0 BP was inspired in Argentina's gauchos

so i see these French links more as early hints at Merciless Marcel and MultiCo

[solemn tulip]

the only explanation..
i don’t think CNS are humans in any way.

what we know from them is that they are a rouge hacking group/ organization that focuses on hacking different things, and this time they hacked the gameshow.

my theory is that they were the original founders of the gameshow, but later multico bought it and called it their own creation.

CNS then decided to become a hacking group trying to spread the message of them being the ones who started it all.

the only one that knows the truth beyond the walls.

[trail wren]

i share the theory that they were part of the original devs but i’d rather have them be humans than not

the less actual characters we have in the story, the less we’ll connect to it as players, imo. i don’t mind THE FINALS being a sentient AI, but i want the rest of the cast to be people

[solemn tulip]

also the fact that arcade machines are always mentioned and hinted in the game..

really makes me thinks that there’s a secreto that they wants us to find.

the gameshow being started as an arcade machine and then evolving to what it is now? who knows!

[normal idol]

Thanks!

[undone snow]

That wouldn't be too shocking, since the finals or at least multico dates back to the 80s

[pure gate]

Ozpuze is probably a canada based company, since in canada, it's required to have a french copy of the ingredients listed along with the regular ones, which is what happened here

[normal osprey]

More quebec, no ? It's in canada, and speak french

[trail wren]

not necessarily. iirc, that’s a requirement for products to be sold in Quebec specifically

so it doesn’t necessarily point towards OSPUZE being CA based imo

[ivory oriole]

ive got a quick question for the people active here, i just heard a line said by june "Isaac Newton would not be happy with this" while triggering the low gravity event, but how does june know who isaac newton is if they arent from our world but the so called "meatspace"

[pure gate]

Idk, I live in BC and stuff at the grocery store all has french ingredients as well...

[trail wren]

i used to work at a company that sold products in Canada, so that’s why i know there’s the requirement to have both languages

[trail wren]

Meatspace is what people refer to IRL in THE FINALS, but the term was also used in the early days of the internet as well. there hasn’t been any indication that the game takes place in a different “world”

[normal osprey]

The thing that scare me a bit is
"No muscle atrophy, it's all fun and game in the finals™"
Why do he need to tell us this ? Like...it have already happen ?

[trail wren]

ye those descriptions are definitely interesting and intentional. what if the early iterations of the VR tech caused it?

[normal osprey]

Yes, like...when you talk about something, it mean that it have already happen...so maybe people did die in the first day of the finals, and scotty was a survivor of the early access of the game

Or at least..."scotty"

[woven sedge]

yeah it def used to be an irl gameshow

[boreal vapor]

Pretty sure it’s just because that’s the result of living in low gravity in real life

[boreal vapor]

Now I want to know if anyone has tried making this IRL

[normal osprey]

It is, but why telling us ? It's only a VR game, right ?

[boreal vapor]

Probably for the same reason that they talk about “no revisions to the standard model of physics”—basically hyperbole puns to make it more immersive 🤷‍♂️

[normal osprey]

Maybe

[bitter mirage]

cant wait to blow up the Eiffel tower

(In THE FINALS)

[inner vale]

𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐥

[bitter mirage]

never really thought about it being lore related, i just thought it was part of the aesthetic of the game. Then you realize that respawning in this game is a cannon thing that happens in universe, unlike cod, battlefield, ect, where its just, "oh its a video game" I bring up the respawn screen due to not only the sound effects, but the 8/16 bit "press start" font that shows when you can respawn in. not to mention, tokens? bro the only arcade that still uses tokens is Chuck E Cheese, everywhere else (at least here in the us) uses reloadable cards. the arcade cabinet/80s inspired bit there kinda makes sesnse.

[tight pendant]

It’s a great aesthetic tho

[bitter mirage]

no 100% it is

[clever sable]

...no. That's not why. Here in Canada, all important information has to be in both English and French. Why? Because Quebec. It's a bit annoying how ornery Quebecois busybodies can get about it considering Alberta and BC get no respect, but I get that's not the point of this so I'm guessing you should start any theories on the matter with the likelihood that Ospuze is Canadian.

[outer elk]

Even so, a lot of products sold in the US will have bilingual labels (or even trilingual with Spanish) to comply with local branding laws, so it's possible that Ospuze is an American company with a large Francophone customer base. I am wrong on this point.

My guess is that the company is in fact American, because one can has 50+ grams of sugar and that's somehow only 54% of daily intake

[silent jetty]

I feel like embark should allow us for season 5’s opening to take off the VR and explore the meatspace for a lil, and go right back to the game.

[bitter mirage]

imo just wait till they release arc raiders because im pretty damn sure (i have no proof of this at all) Is that arc raiders takes place in the same game universe, and the the vr in THE FINALS is similar to ready player one, like the meatspace has kinda fallen to shit

[sleek dragon]

https://youtu.be/aS6le2wS-3c

[visual ferry]

where can i actually learn on the official lore?

[sleek dragon]

There's a lot to the lore, but some youtube videos do a good summary

[visual ferry]

Guess i'll just look on youtube

[haughty oriole]

Yes and it’s disgusting and I almost threw up

[sleek dragon]

Yessir. My vid only quickly covers the lore

[haughty oriole]

I need to find the real way to make it so I don’t make a poisonous liquid

[cobalt badger]

I like to imagine in game universe having one of those “that dark truth behind the production of the finals” documentaries

“They told me it was gonna be quick easy money and it’s make me famous too, I didn’t read the fine print and now I’m stuck in a 5 year contract and the only pay I get are the occasional winnings and lackluster sponsorships, I gotta play once or sometimes even twice each week just to get by”- Anonymous Contestant

[jaunty star]

Cool

[empty timber]

June have a dog?

[silver condor]

Found a new name in the inside of the tick-tock tactician watch in the battlepass, they're called "discovery corp". Idk if we've found them before

[empty timber]

yes we do

[silver condor]

Ok just making sure

[teal blaze]

A snippet of that in a lore vignette would go so hard

[graceful umbra]

Tango Alpha Mike Alpha Out???

WHERE IS TAMA

[frigid sail]

Good question

[graceful umbra]

I hope she didn't fall off the wall. The kings horses and men arent covered by Holtow.

[icy walrus]

compared to cyberpunk 2077 megacorp. how shady, or just downright evil are the finals corpos ?

[hushed bolt]

So um question are the contestants forced to play the finals or do they play it willingly

[icy walrus]

i suppose they're like sports players. they get to choose which brand they want to sponsor after all, in this current season

[graceful umbra]

seeing the art on Ospuze's website with the baby kind of makes me think The Finals world is in a sort of Idiocracy type situation. That Luke Wilson Movie.

[icy walrus]

oh. that make sense, and kinda interesting to think about. speaking of ospuze and idiocracy, one of their slogan on season 3 was "who needs water" and idiocracy they water their crops with brawndo

[empty timber]

official lore just dropped in korean but this guy translates it for us
https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/9MtftyFu1x

[drifting obsidian]

lore is sick

[sacred latch]

Why the hell is all the lore in Korean

[empty timber]

Cuz nexon is in korean?

and i see a lot of tournaments in korean too

[trail wren]

interesting

sad we didn’t get this in a more “cool” way but oh well

this confirms some of the theories we’ve discussed before as well

[sacred latch]

haha I just mean this is a lot of stuff to approve from the lore teams

I would have hoped they released some lore in english

seems weird that the biggest lore drop of the game (ever) is obscured by the language barrier 😭

[empty timber]

yeah we should get the official english one

[trail wren]

it be what it be

[solemn tulip]

new lore logo dropped

[slender gulch]

@trail wren they took the vid

[trail wren]

wym?

[slender gulch]

the SK vid where we got the number 2089

[trail wren]

was it removed?

[slender gulch]

To me it looked like it was their theory but they shouldn't be posting it on their official channel.

[trail wren]

if it’s theory they should provide their sources because none of those dates have ever been confirmed

this why i take this stuff with a grain of salt

[slender gulch]

i did too. Maybe 10% of things in that vid might be true but i don't wanna get spoiled like that.

[cobalt badger]

Definitely willingly because if you were forcing them to their wouldn’t need to be a money incentive

[edgy sail]

is this a lore conspiricy channel?

bit weird dont ya think?

[trail wren]

no conspiracies, just the game’s lore

[coarse iris]

Who are the s4 sponsors?
It's either ENGIMO, ISEUL-T and HOLTOW, or OSPUZE and IVADA, or all of them, and I have zero clue

There is promo art showing both of them as sponsors

[trail wren]

all of them are at different levels of the game show

[coarse iris]

but like, each season has official sponsors that are named? like in Season 1 it was HOTOW and VOLPE, no confusion there, but in Season 3 it's not clear at all like:
In this art in the bottom left it shows the Season 4 sponsors as OSPUZE and IVADA

But in this one, it's HOLTOW, ENGIMO and ISEUL-T

[trail wren]

i mean, if you wanna use that as a technicality then only OSPUZE, ISEUL-T, HOLTOW and ENGIMO are sponsoring the season. but that doesn’t mean IVADA isn’t an official one. for all we know they can be brought later for a WT stop (since they’re already sponsoring the BP)

basically, what you said is technically right. the only official “listed” sponsors are the ones in the latest news (which don’t include IVADA)

[coarse iris]

OHHHH, I wasn't aware that in the news they said by word who the season was sponsored by, that's my bad 😭 i just saw it

[trail wren]

no worries at all. i still think listing IVADA on the teaser art was intentional because they do sponsor the BP and they could be brought to the spotlight later in the season

[coarse iris]

damn there's actually quite a few lore tidbits in the patch notes, i should stop skipping right to the balancing :P

[coarse iris]

tyty 🙏 that makes sense now

[trail wren]

although you could argue the same about Eno+Rino who provides the Career items. but they haven’t been on the spotlight so far

[coarse fable]

in addition to this the isul-t sponser pants [isul-t escape pants] and the ariad, cns pants [discontinuity pants] share the same model, different colors and one has glitch affects but still the same model!

[pallid fiber]

is there by any chance that one of the devs inspirational sources in terms of movies is zoolander?

ive just watched both movies and mugatu's overall brand and execution especially in the first movie feels like something i would see as a sponsor in the game.
has a big building , the offices and facilities have this aesthetic to them similar to fortune stadium.

theres also the silly stuff in the rest of the film like their clothes , the interactions and not to mention mugatu's shuriken. plus the somewhat dark thing going on behind the scenes

im probably just brainrotted from watching both movies straight and on that note if the finals has a high fashion sponsor with a crazy ceo im signing that contract

[undone snow]

The season's official 2 sponsors like the past few seasons and the ones in the extra pages of the battle pass are ospuze and ivada

[sleek dragon]

There's a lot more than 4. Something like 20 👌

[coarse iris]

there's 3

for S4 atleast, every previous season has 2

i guess you could technically count OSPUZE as a defacto sponsor every season

[proven ether]

Yall think the Unscrambled Signal sound has any meaning? its level 36 in battlepass

[coarse iris]

It spells out TAMA in the NATO phonetic alphabet

[proven ether]

huh

thats cool ig

[sleek dragon]

The wiki has 20 something sponsors listed. Most are unnamed, with reveals in coming seasons

https://thefinals.mywikis.eu/wiki/Sponsors

[coarse iris]

i'm talking about the sponsors of S4

[sleek dragon]

Ok ye there's 3 main in S4 to choose from, plus ospuze bc who doesn't like energy drinks and scotty

I'm really enjoying the lore drops so far!

[coarse iris]

yeah every season has specific sponsors, sponsoring that season (and it's battlepass)

[sleek dragon]

I know I've played since beta

Also can you spare some crayons?

[coarse iris]

only us ENGIMO folk get crayons, sorry

[sleek dragon]

LMAO okay that's great 😂🔥

No wonder I like holtow sm 💥😄

[sleek dragon]

Tbh tho goo is so useful

[hoary kraken]

Anyone know why the number 55 is on everything this season

[trail wren]

every player has a different assigned number. i think it's randomized but we still haven't figured out if it has any other relevance

[hoary kraken]

What’s ur number then

[trail wren]

95

[quartz island]

30

[teal blaze]

24

[lone path]

Lightning Mcqueen

[thorny comet]

Boring ahhhhh 63 pretty close to 69 tho

[sand dirge]

i 28

[fast yarrow]

the easter egg hunters have a thread for collecting numbers in one spot https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1289459917337399317

[gentle bronze]

Surprisingly long description on the Engimo weapon charm, thought it brought some good insight into Engimo’s true intentions of being malicious

[trail wren]

you could check my channel if you'd like, it's on my profile

[rotund hill]

True

[tight pendant]

S1 ost was banging

[sleek dragon]

37 🤷‍♂️

[sleek dragon]

Multico threatens to "turn out engimos lights" and engimo wants to "attack from below". This is getting complex 😂🤔

I made a lore video recently. It focuses more on season 3 and 4, but does include a synopsis of events up until now. https://youtu.be/aS6le2wS-3c?si=bfDM3hsfN2O3dcFH

[obsidian vapor]

is discovery corp a sporting company? they sponsor the paintball cl-40 and their tagline "Alter.Exploit.Destroy." are also on the roulette lewis gun?

[trail wren]

no. all weapons have always had that. they’re considered digital weapon manufacturers (aside from Discovery being the game’s internal name)

[obsidian vapor]

oh cool

where is it on the deagles?

[gaunt oriole]

ty

[slender cipher]

i wish i got 22, my lucky number

[rocky glacier]

hey rq what does Engimo canonically do as a sponser, like Holtow is an insurance company and Iseul-T is fashion

[teal blaze]

Engimo is a communications company, they do things like internet and probably are a social media platform as well. Kind of a grouping of all of the types of communications company: internet provider, social media group, etc. Like discord and t-mobile had a weird, information-hungry child

[hardy berry]

Not only that, but I believe Engimo is a quantum communications corp

[teal blaze]

yes, they are quite generous with that term in their ads, eh

[dapper meadow]

Did I hear quantum?

[hardy berry]

So, ironically there encryption should be unbreakable lol

or close to it

[teal blaze]

yeah, but they themselves (that being the company itself) probably have some spyware situation going on, maybe connected to vaiiya

"sign our completely straightforward user agreement"

plenty of other clues in their sponsorship track as well

[hardy berry]

@teal blaze I always read CFO as CHIEF FU_KING OFFICER lol

like an especially angry ceo

[teal blaze]

lol yeah, its a bit less known of a position than ceo i suppose

[hardy berry]

Also I think issult is a "reject the meatspace" vr cult

just the vibe I get from some of there sponsor item descriptions

[cerulean bane]

Has anyone looked into the credits?

[hardy berry]

no, you find something?

[trail wren]

ye we have threads for it in #easter-eggs

[teal blaze]

i would pin that title on engimo more than anything tbh

[hardy berry]

huh, maybe its just MultiCo thats a cult

like the Amway tools cult or something

[teal blaze]

i dont see why they wouldn't be in that regard, they kind of own everything after all

[vague mesa]

as an Engimo sponsored I can confirm

[teal blaze]

i mean, how does it make sense that holtow, engimo, and iseul-t, all being subsidiaries of Multico, are the official sponsors for the finals? it's also owned by Multico

[gilded osprey]

Yeah

[trail wren]

hypercapitalism

[hardy berry]

One of my personal theory's is that the Finals is set in "End stage" capitalism, where only one company really exists (MultiCo (Multiple Companies) ) and "multi bucks" are the only thing with any real value, (basically company scrip) and the dollar is basically worthless, along with any other currency. Basically MultiCo "won" capitalism and is trying to keep ppl in VR so there control over there lives (and therefore buying habits) are TOTAL.

[teal blaze]

yk there was a big thing i was gonna say but that somehow sums it up

[hardy berry]

like a evan worse version of the "metaverse" stuff Facebook pushes (that also actually works lol)

[gilded osprey]

Makes sense

[teal blaze]

yeah, i can see that making sense. players are rewarded in dollars, but it could be that it's perceived as more like "points" than actual money because of how little its worth at this time.

[hardy berry]

Yeah, like one multibuck could cost (in universe obv) 25 trillion (the us gdp in 2022) or something insane, so the company can "pay" there employees without actually paying them.

I mean Embark formed because the founding member were frustrated with the cooperate systems of AAA games yea?

So that could be an issue near and dear to there hearts

idk tho maybe im dumb lol :P

[trail wren]

there are plenty crossovers between Embark’s history and the lore, yes

[hardy berry]

also it would be funny if the game was about the ultimate in anti-consumer practices made by one of the most consumer friendly devs ive ever seen

[teal blaze]

nah i like that theory, seems like an inevitable consequence of the way things are going in real life and how the game has been set up. MultiCo could have total control over the world markets and the governments themselves, but they're so high up that subdivisions and subsidiaries (like the sponsors) can form almost completely separate from MultiCo itself. they would still retain full control over their smaller sister companies, but would be so out-of-touch they could manage themselves until they did something MultiCo didn't like.

not sure if that makes sense but its kinda where im thinking with that idea

[hardy berry]

almost like warring great houses of an empire, vying to control or to have influence over the "King" (multico) the most

ive made jokes before that eventually the only companies IRl will be Disney and Amazon, so maybe the finals world is like "yeah basically that" but worse

[teal blaze]

yeah, and MultiCo could sort of sit back and watch, only interfering when the companies get a little too messy and the corp has to come in and clean up

[hardy berry]

Or CNS gets a little too bold

assuming MC dont ALSO own CNS lol

imagine like, Shell, buying out just stop oil or something

So they can do "protests" but ones that in realty just boost ratings for the finals

Like how Hot Topic sells t-shirts with the Anarchy A printed on them

[teal blaze]

oh im sure CNS is owned by MultiCo, unless they are the actual, only non-affiliated group at this point. although if they were, i doubt they would have ever gotten far enough to actually interfere with the game show. MC is too powerful imo

[trail wren]

there’s no indication of that. in fact, the leaked document points towards the opposite

[teal blaze]

does it? i couldn't really glean anything from the docs when i looked at them

[hardy berry]

"that's what they want you to think" adjusts tinfoil hat

[trail wren]

you gotta read between the lines

[hardy berry]

are the docs in the EE thread somewhere?

[teal blaze]

theyre on the wiki

[trail wren]

ye, look for the MultiCo Files thread

[teal blaze]

i see what you mean, there is an air of confusion in the documents, like they truly dont know whats going on. thats interesting..

[trail wren]

exactly

[hardy berry]

man the EE hunt is complex af

[keen bridge]

kind of insane how much effort has gone into it when you think about it

[trail wren]

ye it's been going on for a while. make sure to check the Miro board

[woven sedge]

what if instead of the drink the kool aid cult it was the hit the galaxy gas cult

[hardy berry]

the what.

[craggy sleet]

quick what maps are sponsored by iseul-t

[gentle bronze]

Seoul and Fortune Stadium

[dry crystal]

A section of fortune stadium

[craggy sleet]

you know at first I thought it was clear cut but looking at a lot of footage the map sponsor changes hands a lot

[dapper sentinel]

something to look into https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/comments/1fv0w18/the_official_main_story_of_the_finals/

Impervious said it's not official but think what you believe

[steady canyon]

Any collabs soon for the finals? Maybe the new upcoming game from embark studios “arc raiders”

[quartz island]

Isn’t this official cause Nexon straight published this?

[dapper sentinel]

thats what I think. But impervious says its not because it was taken down?

[solemn tulip]

Hey Spear! I have a theory i’ll like to share.

Scotty, being the commentator that he is, often makes voices lines that can questionable or interesting at best.

And one of the voice lines really catches my attention, and it’s the one where he talks about the buildings falling down the contestants.

Now, it isn’t the entire voice line that is important or interesting,

It’s rather a sentence, which says:

“Our contestant have to (Don’t remember) And focus on their..”

Training.

What are they training for? What is this training?!

[verbal pagoda]

I'm assuming the "training" is just the contestants practicing their aim and stuff for the matches, like in the Practice Range. June has a similar dialogue when entering the Practice Range, where she says "hone your skills and impress the sponsors" or something.

[solemn tulip]

Well, probably i did a bit of overthinking on that one.

[verbal pagoda]

All good, better than underthinking

[solemn tulip]

[candid tundra]

Is there any confirmed lore reason why Scotty is noticeably more passive aggressive with June this season?

[empty timber]

he is?

i thoghut he was just playng with her

[dry halo]

YOU HAVE A LINK WHERE I CAN READ ALL THE LORE I PLAY FROM THE CLOSED BETA BUT OVER TIME I MISSED A BIT OF LORE

[trail wren]

#📕┇lore message

[dry halo]

THANK S DUDE

[sleek dragon]

I think so too. Scotty has never liked cns but he's fine with June

[empty timber]

yeah they are colleagues

[sleek dragon]

Indeed

[empty timber]

is this vaiiya slogan?

[tacit quail]

In the multico files, there's "S Lies" and "L Lies". I know we've established before that S refers to Scotty. but what about the L? And can S refer to Sophie instead depending on who L refers to?

[empty timber]

https://tenor.com/view/imposter-tf2-it-could-be-you-it-could-be-me-spy-gif-23428031

[trail wren]

we don’t know if it’s first or last name related. so it could be Scotty, Sofia or Sal Scoria. if it’s last name based, then we could theorize L being for Mackenzie Lapis

[lucid hedge]

lore is good

[cedar python]

lore is life

[humble goblet]

what is eno + rino

[trail wren]

we don’t know but the brand’s been here for a while already

[humble goblet]

ik

[dusky nacelle]

Im guessing fashion? theyre all over the career progression cosmetics

[humble goblet]

maybe sporting fashion?

[low stratus]

Hiking/sport maybe

Least their first set gives off that feel with the tan and camo patterns. Probably my fav set

[fluid sundial]

wow

[craggy sleet]

probably will be Yum Beok-Seok'S lies since he is definitely lying about who he is

[sage marsh]

In the s4 trailer at 35 seconds there is a very short glitch effect. In that effect it looks like the reflection of someone standing in a room.(i woud send a picture but idk how)

[trail wren]

thing is all the evidence we actually have on this points towards Sofia, not YBS atm

[craggy sleet]

i feel like its a red herring, plus now that you acronym his name YBS-LIES

[craggy sleet]

i feel like sofia - whom has the most power and influence in The Finals has less of a reason to have the biggest secret out of all of the sponsors. But I do feel like personally Engimo will use this sponsor event as a smoke screen and have nobody suspecting them - just like a dragonfly

[trail wren]

idk how to link none of the new sponsors to the MultiCo files yet so i can’t comment on that nor do i have headcanons

[craggy sleet]

are the multi co files public

[trail wren]

ye we have a thread for it in #easter-eggs + we know from Rob there's more hidden files in one of the sponsors website but they haven't been discovered yet

[craggy sleet]

i hope this doesnt make my next big theory more complicated than I made it already

[merry rain]

There are five roses on the training ground that are lying near the bench, does anyone know why they are lying there?

[solid wedge]

im guessing you guys figured this out but i wanna know. anyone else noticed Scotty is somewhat nicer to June?

[neon drift]

there's new voice lines too

something about starting a comedy club

[rapid zealot]

Anyone know of any lore out there pertaining to the mundanities of day to day life for people in meatspace or the specifics of how the finals works? What does the VR tech look like/how does it work/what's the interface like? Is there a larger, AR system that people use? Do contestants stream matches from their home a-la modern day online gaming, or do they attend sanctioned events like e-sports??

[solid wedge]

well yeah i know about those, but i feel that unlike before when scotty would actually shut down June or dismiss her comments, the whole "we are heading for the comedy circuit" feels like he is forced to be more friendly or interact with her.

[neon drift]

true

I've noticed a bit more of sarcasm in his voice lines

[solid wedge]

theres a video showing you can kinda see three dots on each eye where the vr goggles would technically be.

[neon drift]

theres one like "june if you keep this up well have to start up a comedy show/club" something along the lines of that

[solid wedge]

where as before he would tell her to shut up or say no to her a lot

[neon drift]

wdym no

[solid wedge]

scotty doesn't even flaunt the fact he was a contestant as much as he used to, the only times ive heard it is in the final round of WT and in ranked when you are the last alive. but in any other game mode he wouldn't mention it.

[solid wedge]

not directly say no, but shut down June and dismiss her comments.

[neon drift]

I've heard him say "you know the former eye of a contestant" in quick cash and bank it before

but yeah he really doesn't mention it that often anymore

[neon drift]

åhhh ok ok

[solid wedge]

usually says that line in last man situations, says it alot in ranked sometiems repeat

[neon drift]

true true

but yeah scottys new voicelines makes it seems like he getting annoyed of june or something

[solid wedge]

or forced to be nice to her.

[neon drift]

that too

[solid wedge]

my theory is Marcell from corporate told him to, but no idea why? or how he told scotty.

[neon drift]

that makes no sense tho

why would he tell scotty to do that

[solid wedge]

idk, but last season scotty was his usual self and this season he switched his act up, the only thing that happened between the seasons is the reboot and corporate came down to make "BIG CHANGES"

my theory is open to idea and thoughts btw, im just throwing this out there bc ive been itching to get an answer.

[wet ibex]

marcel is a shell with shoes idk if they told them

[normal spear]

my theory is they will be adding Cooper to the finals next update... they've been dropping hints for a while now...

@dreamy egret let me know

[fervent cove]

lore? it just a virtual reality sport like airsoft but in vr or much realstic thats what i though and every other sport got an comentator

[wet ibex]

ospuze looks radioactive oh god

[trail wren]

we don’t know any of those details yet

[teal blaze]

It legit glows under the right lighting conditions when teams are getting introduced 💀

[snow halo]

I want to gamble in the casino with my teams money

[fringe field]

Final Round

[tardy spoke]

BRUH so im rereading my nurse handbook and in it mentions the Central Nervous System and shortens it into CNS which is like the exact same thing in the GAME

CNS = a living thing?!

[dapper sentinel]

@trail wren thoughts ?

[trail wren]

no thoughts. the video was taken down so either it's not accurate or it's info it's not suppose to be out there

[trail wren]

ye it's a common theory from way back

[dapper sentinel]

alright then

[tardy spoke]

dang am i too late? did we ever find out more about cns?

[trail wren]

we don't know much, but that was one of the first theories ever

[tardy spoke]

wow.

that's friggin wild. dang i wish more came out of it because im obsessed with the lore of what cns could be and the clothes left behind by cns

nevermind im stupid it is central nervous system and it is confirmed by rob according to the wiki. i was just looking at the videos trying to make sense

[trail wren]

Rob's eyes is not confirmation, but only that it could be related to it

that's why it's a theory

[tardy spoke]

i want to write a dissertation on why this game is heavily inspired by Tron and Tron: Legacy because I believe that TRON and CLU inspired sponsors here but i'll keep it short:

Here's the OG info i put together but I looked more into it: #easter-eggs message

• disc wars lead to the Final Round (The Finals)
• disc wars' gravity can be flipped (the game has low gravity)
• CLU built the empire, Multi-Co did too for the fame and $$
• CNS is represented by ISOs because ISOs are advanced and posses advanced coding that point to sentience (much like human sentience), much like if Rob hinted at CNS being close to living (but not really) so are the ISOs (as per the tron wiki)

which leads me to my next theory for the Stump EE. If we're looking for discs and we looked elsewhere for the discs, why not tron or tron legacy at the identity discs?

there could be a.. clu ( 🥁 )

[tardy spoke]

Holy GUAC in the movie Tron: Legacy Quorra talks about Jules Verne and in #easter-eggs his books are used as guides for hunts! omfg.

In the scene where she pulls out an important hexagonal shape to get Sam to go to Zuse it's in the book Voyages Extraordinaire

[trail wren]

ye we've noticed many references to other media (movies/games)

[winged void]

CNS is short for their full name which is

Central. Nervous. System.
Pop. Pour. Perform.

Yeah
Sys$Horizon

Sponsored by CNS

From your central nervous system
With love ~<3

[trail wren]

again, that's only a theory. we don't know what their initials actually stand for yet

[thick nova]

"It's just a theory, a game theory!"
-Matpat

[sand bronze]

i hate game theory'

[thick nova]

Can't blame you

I have no rights to blame or judge opinions, cause i barely watch game theory

[olive gate]

aw :(

[sand bronze]

the "theorys" make no sense

[robust sleet]

Pretty sure it's unrelated to lore

[thick nova]

yes

[agile haven]

So in the lore are scotty and June real people or are they like actually just AI or more so secretly AI like we know scotty used to be a contestant but is it really the same person or could it be an AI built off his voice and likeness?

[trail wren]

there has been no indication in the lore that the commentators are AI

[thorny sandal]

Ospuze Pro Juice is people

[safe falcon]

Do we know what are the ingredients of ospuze?

[ripe rock]

I think you can see the ingredients on some of the cosmetics on the Ospuze battle pass page

[strong moat]

Hey, people that take the lore thing seriously, im not into it that much but i just wanna ask if theres any confirmation that people die in the game

[trail wren]

it’s VR, no real deaths so far

[strong moat]

The ragdolls that happen sometimes are just glitches then?

[trail wren]

those are just typical ragdoll bugs ye

[strong moat]

Would be cool if they where lore related

Its just a really rare glitch

[trail wren]

i mean, in lore it would be just that as well. a bug/glitch on the VR/AI program

[strong moat]

Huh

[trail wren]

THE FINALS is an AI sentient program that uses VR tech. if you wanna link ragdolls to lore, then that’s all they could be in theory

[strong moat]

Maybe there could be contestants that die in a literal sense

[safe falcon]

On the battle pass that we have rn?

[ripe rock]

I think so

[stuck sun]

Nah the main character is me

[tardy spoke]

question, how does lore officially drop?

[trail wren]

trailers, lore vignettes, cosmetic descriptions, EE hunt

[tardy spoke]

aw dang and Rob said somewhere they have 8 or so season content available at hand, so it's going to take a while 😅

[trail wren]

lore will never be front and center if you ask me, so ye expect it to be extremely slow

[rocky torrent]

Horse tranquilizers

[woeful shale]

The same shit they put in Bonk!

[zenith lily]

Can someone check those storage units in Vegas on the edge of the map? There's people screaming something. Probably in distress

Maybe our friends over at CNS

[robust sleet]

CNS flavored ospuze yum

[brisk needle]

I feel like it would taste like a fruit punch or something

[grand cove]

why are there so many numbers on cosmetics and why are they different than whats on the picture when equipped?

[quartz island]

Everyone has their own number 1-99

[grand cove]

is it random wich number you get?

[thorny beacon]

My player number is 46 and my embark ID is #2206
2+2 = 4
0+6 = 6
Could it be that the first two and last two digits of your embark ID are added and that determines your player number?

could be a coincidence

[nocturne turtle]

It's a coincidence. My number is 36 and my ID is 7013

[stark jay]

whats new in lore

[hexed parrot]

Skibidi master the 4th has abducted cnn

[tacit copper]

Huh?

[arctic swan]

I love this. Genuinely made me laugh thanks homie

[stark jay]

type stuff

[primal dew]

June was a prior contestant for the finals?

[lavish ocean]

that was scotty

[primal dew]

I'm watching a video rn and it said it still gave her an adrenaline rush

[lavish ocean]

Might be a type

typo

[primal dew]

Aw myans but I'm curious how was Scotty found out to be one?

[lavish ocean]

not sure on that one

[tacit copper]

The only one to drink 6 cans of Ospuze before going on air and live

[lavish ocean]

living legend

[quartz island]

Lore should get spooky this month

[sinful forge]

He says it

[hollow oak]

We should see Scotty break dance in the lore

[hollow oak]

My id also has 2246
6-4=2
2+2=4
4-2=2
And my in game number is 2

[teal blaze]

that is extraordinarily random

but kind of interesting

[hollow oak]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-five-nights-at-freddy's-dance-freddy-fazbear-meme-gif-387447488759269797

[woven sedge]

We will see Scotty do the Turkish Quandale Dingle Dance

[pastel otter]

Why has Nama Tama not been in the trailers since release?
Where is Nama Tama?
Are they okay? Are they alright?

Oh also, anti-grav grenades look different this season, not sure if anybody took not of that yet

[atomic citrus]

Look at the fork knife skin in the store, it's charm mainly

[pastel otter]

f-forkknife?

[atomic citrus]

Not that one but yes

[analog sinew]

Gooby

[sinful forge]

Noooooo

Nama Tama is dead. We must boycott embark now

[wary holly]

That would never happen to my king don’t say that

[minor dawn]

yes

[vague mountain]

They will never know

[zenith lily]

He has voice lines saying he was a former contestant

[zenith lily]

[fringe field]

[bleak olive]

What do you think Scotty wore when he was in the gameshow?

[empty timber]

maybe pants

shoes

[undone snow]

Im pretty sure we're getting some sort of Halloween event/theme. I think Rob hinted at some upcoming spooky content.

[dark jay]

IDk, but I am a firm believer that scotty's face is white guy no 1

[solid wedge]

scotty is black, he said so in beta.

[dark jay]

Evidence or cap

[rocky gyro]

I was reading some of the math you guys were doing to try and figure out the lore behind the contestant numbers assigned but is there any actual rhyme or reason to the numbers that were assigned

Anyways shout out 21 gang

[bleak olive]

I thought so too

I have an outfit but i dont have enough points in this chat to share it.

[finite slate]

its confirmed june has british teeth ugggh

[long urchin]

You heard it here folks ._.

[uncut zenith]

lol

[hard fossil]

he the whitest black dude there is then 😄

[cobalt badger]

Is there something significant about the number 89 because it appears on nearly all the battlepass outfits?

[rocky gyro]

Everyone has there own contestant number for example mines 21

[sturdy crag]

where do you see the number is it just on some outfits

[daring scaffold]

lit

[tight pendant]

It doesn’t show until you buy it or wear it

[sturdy crag]

ok

[sly tide]

4446, 4-4=0, 4+6=10, 10-0=10, game number 12

Someone can try to change the name(when u change name id also should change), and see if his number changed

[glad radish]

So he has a pass

[exotic rampart]

I think Scotty cheated and June goes off on ospuze because they helped him

Only 2 people have actually reached the finals and won for all we know, one was that one woman in the season 1 battle pass

[cobalt badger]

Really? Interesting

[cobalt badger]

I have to get confirmation on this. For whatever reason this is the most curious about anything I’ve been all week

[earnest shuttle]

It does show with the battle pass

[cobalt badger]

Yeah I can see it on outfits I haven’t gotten to yet

[sturdy crag]

Who's Scotty's voice actor

[solid wedge]

Pretty sure they are ai voices

[sturdy crag]

Ok that makes a lot of sense

When he says "not this map again! What does sys horizon even mean" it's sounds so fake

[solid wedge]

He definitely doesn't sound real in some of the new season videos or the highlights

[sturdy crag]

Yeah

They should get a voice actor for him

If he is ai of course

Which he is

Also are the announcers real people in the lore

[cobalt badger]

Honestly I’m in the same boat if the mode is power shift. It plays just fine in cash out but power shift is just bad

[sturdy crag]

it makes sense for the contestents to be ai but idk about the june and scotty

[cobalt badger]

There’s times when it slips up and sounds fake but considering all the different combinations of team name puns and every other line it’s more cost effective to have an ai do it than pay for a voice actor

Plus it’s not just Scotty and June, the arena announcer also has a lot of lines

[cobalt badger]

Also with Scotty being a former contestant I wonder what his build was?

He seems like either a medium or heavy to me

[sturdy crag]

are scotty and june the cohosts or the hosts

also who is the arena announcer

[cobalt badger]

No clue, we don’t have a name for him or anything

[cobalt badger]

They’re both The hosts

[sturdy crag]

ok, i was just wondering because of the "cohost a comedy show" line

[cobalt badger]

They probably use the word cohost because her main job would still be “host of the finals”

[sturdy crag]

ohh ok

[slate orbit]

I like June

[cobalt badger]

She cool

[solid wedge]

the game works with avatars you can be all classes no matter size irl (in lore) so for all we know he was probably the best light in history or the most brutal heavy.

[tacit quail]

noisy question: if embark ID's are 4 numbers, how can they accommodate more than 9,999 account?

[clear vector]

10k identical names, there infinite combinations

[tacit quail]

alright, so the ID is the name and the number not just the number. thanks

[clear vector]

They assign you a random ahh number, like og discord

[thick nova]

Rah

[sage owl]

Has anyone found any sponsors on the Chopperaider skin bundle? Would be interesting if it didn't have any, given even the fire department is sponsored by Ospuze.

[sage owl]

You just don't get any free rewards, and one of your player card badges never progresses

[nocturne turtle]

I think you're unable to play World Tour and ranked

someone said that once iirc

[storm gyro]

Brutal heavy Scotty is kinda fire

[nocturne turtle]

I wonder if Ospuze and Ivada were originally intended as official sponsors but MultiCo or someone else intervened and set Holtow, Iseul-t and Engimo as official sponsors

[nocturne turtle]

ah ok, I've been lied to

[solid wedge]

i can imagine heavy Scotty brutally cleaving his opponents and saying some goofy ass shit like "Hooot dog!"

[storm gyro]

He’s such a lovable dork

[low sundial]

Is Discovery Corp supposed to be short for Discovery Tech Incorporated? Has that name appeared anywhere else?

[trail wren]

it’s the first time we hear about that nomenclature

but this might imply they work on other things aside from digitally manufacturing weapons

also #easter-eggs message

[full aurora]

Maybe im not keeping up but has anyone fogured out the meaning behind the 3-4 roses on the training room

[solid wedge]

embark loves you specifically🧡

[full aurora]

Huh 👍

[nocturne turtle]

There's an easter egg related to it, but we haven't solved it yet

[solid wedge]

i saw a funny thing you can do with the roses and gateway but that's the extent of my knowledge.

[full aurora]

You think they gave enough clues / added everything in the lore to solve it yet?

[low sundial]

So if Multicorp technology is inspired by Commodore in its design and function, could Discovery Corp. in turn be inspired by Amiga? The number code at the top spells out the name of the main three amiga chips, as shown here #easter-eggs message, and Discovery corp. is also a tech company apparently

[nocturne turtle]

Probably. It was already solvable in S1. Go here https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1011929497139953744 or here https://discord.com/channels/1008696016318513243/1203859365610922036 if you're interested

[trail wren]

the MuCoDOS is inspired in the AmigaOS. but it seems like Discovery Tech might’ve also been inspired by it. it’s early to tell the lore implications

[storm gyro]

Is there like a weapon brand company that we know of?

[trail wren]

not per se outside of Discovery Corp who’s assumed to digitally manufacture them

[storm gyro]

Ty for the reply!☺️

[swift belfry]

what is the story of the finals?

[cobalt badger]

I guess in that case I wonder what his main was? He seems like a sledgehammer heavy I think

[solid wedge]

someone thought to market bloodshed and combat, with funny people talking in the background

[hardy berry]

June was a medium. 100%. Zero doubt from me

So USB's are apparently no longer a thing in the finals world

[solid wedge]

i like to imagine they are fully online storage only, too advanced that hard drives and external drives are a thing of the past

[tardy spoke]

#easter-eggs message
So the story of Hermes is he is the messenger between gods and humans, between our world and mount olympus

which matches with mr. Yun's story, through meatspace and virtual fashions

I think the sponsors are also represented by key elements that are symbols of the greek gods

such as the cedaceus, the one-snake spear, and the light's shoes (per the linked message) that resembles ISEULT's shoes

so methinks ISEULT may hold the secret to X (also the X on the shoe) where Icarus is falling too close to the sun (HOLTOW) and these sponsor's cosmetics hold key information for more lore

[tardy spoke]

Which leads me to make the tie together per this comment: #easter-eggs message because they all share the same barcode. IVADA (new healing beam skin) and the Caduceus charm, DXZ white clothes (angel?), and X7//AV "steal" the spotlight (Hermes was a god of thievery too)
Edit: NOT TO MENTION they are all COSMETIC SPONSORS JUST LIKE ISEULT!! 😮

I think these sponsors are the precursor to ISEULT tbh. I think the connection is there, pretty loose, but there

[hardy berry]

so like, ONLY cloud storage? IE: internet fast enough that upload/download speeds are nigh-on instant?

[trail wren]

would prefer if these brands are separate to existing sponsors. we’ll have to see

also, we don’t have info on what they do and so far every sponsor has cosmetics. it’s not like they make clothes like ISEUL-T

[obsidian vapor]

for the engimo commercial, do we know what the people in the background are saying?

[cobalt badger]

I think it’s the same stuff as the foreground voices but in Japanese. It’s probably the original recording because Engimo HQ is in Kyoto I believe

[cobalt badger]

Yeah kinda like how Red Bull makes drinks but also a ton of merch

[sweet token]

So, I don't know how big of lore this is but Holtow has two different, "Proof of Insurance" cards. The one on Holtow.com is different than the one on reachthefinals.com(as per the provided images). tbh this might just be an oversight by Embark but who knows.

[teal blaze]

the second one looks like maybe an older style of card? like a pre color scheme change card or sum

[sweet token]

makes sense

Yeah cause the first one has 5 sets of insurance numbers if that makes sense

[craggy sleet]

hol up

[craggy sleet]

most definitely

[craggy sleet]

off topic but do we just have like an all encompassing "lore dump" I feel like I need more info surrounding say like the creation of the finals and the sponsors

[sturdy acorn]

idr what chanel to put this in but I'm hoping if this sponsor thing keeps going we get Ospuze as an option eventually

[rich cairn]

Ospuze already took over like half the cosmetics this season.

[sturdy acorn]

yes because they are the OG and the best sponsor
POP POUR PERFORM
gamerjuice for life

[rich cairn]

Holtow Insurance REVOKED

[olive vapor]

after seeing a specific yt vid I now see cns as the good guy and mutico as the bad guy (forgot what the yt vis is but it's summed up and clear). Hope cns comes back again for round 2 cuz i wanna see them expose the evil nature of multico

[olive vapor]

Here it is
https://youtu.be/FtZ-4ZOY6ew?si=lmOcv8IYhlZbRRcb

[robust sleet]

Mentioning CNS, I hope there'll be more lore videos, since CNS left things a bit trailing. I know they left some messages along the idea of "we'll be back, good luck contestants", but I'm really curios to see what will happen

[solid wedge]

basic member, and EXCLUSIVE MEMBER or basically first to die by sun, last to die by sun.

[gloomy drift]

The lore right now is basically that when they killed all of cns In a sting operation gone wrong Scotty forgot to get our season 3 rewards and they were lost forever when they blew up all the terminals

So that’s why we haven’t received anything for playing the worst season yet

[trail wren]

we don't know if the info on this video is accurate considering the original source material was removed

[trail wren]

we don't have that kind of info. you can find the summary of the story so far here #📕┇lore message

[olive vapor]

actually the uploader did confirm it's details so it is most likely accurate

[trail wren]

i know where the info came from, and there has never been any indication of those facts in-game or any official source. the original video they used was taken down from YT and we still haven't received confirmation of the info pushed on the Nexon website. so that's why i take it with a grain of salt

[olive vapor]

fair anough

[gilded cliff]

(didn't feel like copying and pasting allat over from that server to this one)

[undone snow]

I don't get it

[nocturne turtle]

I don't think they already made all the S5 cosmetics in the beginning of S4

[teal blaze]

They did say our RETURNING sponsor ivada and I found that pretty weird so...maybe..

Could be more of a lore thing than a player thing though

[hardy berry]

sense the sponsor system has been received well, it would be cool to almost see a "rematch" of the implied conflict between them and Viiya in se2. Like 3 options of Viiya, CNS and maybe a third one, or just a two v two

[hardy berry]

there's been a few ivada things already, there marketing is just more subtle than others (or they spend less on marketing in universe)

[covert laurel]

I was gonna say Ivada isn't a new Sponsor, so calling them 'returning' makes sense I think. They've had a few items come out already. I think it's just more obvious this season with the medic and dark fencer sets in the BP.

[versed harness]

I mean... there's some unknown sponsor logos, so I'm sure we're gonna get a couple more additions soon!

[trail wren]

we don’t discuss datamined/leaks here

[versed harness]

whoop, my bad

[compact isle]

random questionn idk if its lore related but why is kyoto in chhina on the world tour map...

[verbal pagoda]

It's not.

[compact isle]

okay so hear me out im on streched

[slow hatch]

😭

[cobalt badger]

I find it a little weird that brand logos are on things like the relic roamer outfit. Like has marketing in the finals universe gotten so out of control that essentially anything can be an advertisement

[crimson dagger]

flunk the finals, watch my video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKaZu_sVjm0

[wet ibex]

june makes more + better jokes this season, therefore she = AI, learning over time.

more importantly, is green barrels galaxy gas?

[manic mirage]

yup

[dark jay]

They aren’t AIs I don’t think, otherwise how could they ‘unplug’?

[echo falcon]

yall think playboi carti is in the lore?

[shell ivy]

W theory

[shell ivy]

Definitely

[fierce pollen]

the BIAS wrecker cosmetics (atleast the concept and the big announcement logos you now see on fortune) were finished in 2022 already. Release time =/= creating point

[gilded cliff]

They said they had most everything ideated for up to season 8, iirc

[nocturne turtle]

This is true but concept art also doesn't equal creating point

[fierce pollen]

I'm not talking about concept art only. The big signs with "BIAS WRECKER" and the blue iseult shoe on it that you now see on fortune were in the development levels already

[nocturne turtle]

Yeah that's just Iseul-t slogan/lore stuff. I don't really understand what's your point with that

I think that ospuze & ivada are in the BP because of lore reasons and not because of irl reasons

[fierce pollen]

Because they didn't made it into live until Season 4 iirc - I just wanted to point out that a lot of stuff is finished way before it goes into the game. So it's not that far fetched that cosmetics are done way before they make it into the game

[trail wren]

this is also true

[fierce pollen]

Yeah - it's not like I'm supporting the conspirancy with the BP release :D

[drifting mango]

is this heaven???

[boreal crown]

Average OSPUZE gaming setup

[drifting mango]

fr

[fervent meadow]

Is ozpuze just… Mellow yellow

[boreal crown]

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[gilded cliff]

No

[wet crane]

aint no way theres lore to this game what?

[lilac wolf]

no

[teal blaze]

feels kinda awkward that ivada is literally an upfront sponsor for this season, but we still dont know what they do

it cant be that hard to tell us, so why havent they?

[lethal igloo]

Wdym we already know

[teal blaze]

i said we dont know

[lethal igloo]

no i mean like wdym, we already know

[dusty gulch]

what does it do

[lethal igloo]

i lied we dont know

[teal blaze]

yeah i didnt see anything saying it

damn

[lethal igloo]

got bored

[storm gyro]

Regarding the duck in Monnoco, is there any lore surrounding the duck like does it have a name or?

[hardy berry]

idk, and all the "duck and cover" mod seems to do is destroy the Monaco cathedral (and hang inflatable ducks in the sky)

[storm gyro]

Interesting nonetheless! Ty Star!☺️

[hardy berry]

Therefore we can conclude the duck is a symbol of a radical anti-theism terror cell.

[tardy spoke]

Are threads allowed in this channel? One for theorizing and brainstorming :)))

[wet ibex]

duck is one of the mascots

[haughty sage]

How come for some of cosmetics in the BP have a number on it and it’s different for everyone, do the numbers mean something?

[open bramble]

Ospuze

[sinful forge]

obviously

[fervent meadow]

I bet we’ll get stuff soon

We got stuff for holtow first, and then engimo

[ocean kestrel]

👀

[empty timber]

isn't ivada supposed to just sponsor the battle pass with ospuze?

maybe we will get to see world tour ivada

[ripe rock]

Ivada is present since s1 but people didn't really looked into it because it was only in one bundle with a fcar skin. Imo, this is a security company, in most of the Ivada offers, the name of the offer was related to security.

[empty timber]

tahts vaiiya

Vaiiya is a security company cybersecurity

i think ivada is more of a techwear fashion brand

[ripe rock]

Would make sense, we can't know for sure

[empty timber]

well base on ivada bundle and battlepass

[ripe rock]

Ok

[trim bloom]

yall idk if its just me but ive noticed an increase of dead bodys

[empty timber]

Idk never notice it. people die everyday

[knotty fractal]

It’s a mascot

[robust sleet]

I'm pretty sure IVADA is some sort of military company- judging by the paramedic set and very high amount of weapon skins

[ripe rock]

I think the same, like a private military service, maybe some sort of mercenary company

[wooden nimbus]

Not to break ENGIMO's communications user agreement, but I'm really curious to know what's behind the Oni mask. Has anyone found anything about it yet?

[empty timber]

what is ENGIMO'S communications user agreement though

[slender gulch]

it's a straightforward data sharing agreement

unlike Sammy holtow's

[empty timber]

well atleast the internet is fast

[long urchin]

It’s very straightforward Ik that

[long urchin]

So like vaiiya?

[ripe rock]

I think so

[ocean kestrel]

[undone snow]

I think ivada makes the led stuff like signs in the arena? Because all of their cosmetics have the little led strips on em.

[craggy mason]

They did something to Scotty? He Sounds weird

[undone snow]

His voice over the seasons is inconsistent because Scotty and June are voiced by ai.

[sage owl]

Hullo lore chat, how we doing?

[sage owl]

That was my thought too, given Ivada is my favourite sponsor. But more their cosmetics come out, less consistent they become. Maybe they work on arena infrastructure rather than the billboards?

Yeah mentioned it WAY back here

[undone snow]

Interesting theory

[sage owl]

Well, if you want to discuss Ivada or theorycraft in general lmk

[rich orchid]

What's the tldr lore of the finals?

[sage owl]

We're in a virtual gameshow and the world is probably governed by mind control

[rich orchid]

Is that the real lore or is that a theory?

[sage owl]

Real lore

[rich orchid]

Oh

[sage owl]

Mind control to keep people in the digital space because that makes corpos moni

[sturdy crag]

Are Scotty and June real people in the lore

[sturdy crag]

So are the contestants unwillingly participating

[sage owl]

Oh no they wanna

[sturdy crag]

Ok

[sage owl]

The mind control (supposedly Ospuze) is to keep people hooked into the virtual space

[sturdy crag]

So what are they mind controlled to do

[sage owl]

The Finals is a way to make big cash while there

[sturdy crag]

What time does the game show take place, because there's maps in the past and future

[sage owl]

Around 100 years from now

[sturdy crag]

Why does Scotty get mad at sys$horizon in one of his lines

[sage owl]

Made by hackers

[sturdy crag]

Oh yeah cns

[sturdy crag]

What about this

[sage owl]

Unsure yet, they could be AI or real people

[sturdy crag]

Ok

I feel like they are real because they broadcast the show but maybe AI can in this universe

[sage owl]

Exactly

They definetly have personality and have shown worry towards the sponsors' matters

[sturdy crag]

Yeah

Does cns still try to mess with them

[sage owl]

Probably

[sturdy crag]

I feel like this game has better lore than most fps games

[sage owl]

It does

Also, something to point out, a small lore tidbit which I discovered recently

In the UK, two-tone airsoft guns are imitation firearms (IFs) which are finished in bright, unrealistic colours, either from the factory or by an airsoft retailer, and allow people without a license/site membership to purchase an airsoft gun to not get prosecuted. The basic mastery colors in The Finals are very similar: we can take the AKM as example.

As you can see, it follows the two-tone pattern scheme pretty much perfectly

[woeful imp]

Are the commentators ai genarated voices or real voice actors?

[sage owl]

AI generated trained by real voice actors

[hushed hemlock]

hiring VA payed by embark into using embark own AI voice thing

[robust sleet]

In the lore, Scotty is definitely a real person, and, even tough it's not confirmed for June, it is most likely that she is real too, but no guarantee, tough Scotty is definitely real in lore

[sturdy crag]

alright

[woven sedge]

the galaxy gas has gotten to his brain and is affecting his voice

[trail wren]

the idea that the world is “probably governed by mind control” is actually a theory. that has never been confirmed in the lore

what has been said is that people spend most of their time in the VR world

[hushed hemlock]

propaganda control

[sage owl]

And there's a high probability it never will be confirmed, given we see things from the "production" perspective: the sponsors, announcers, security etc.

There's a chance one day we'll get a start of season cinematic where someone goes "so, we need to start increasing the dosage of the mind control drug?" and we'll suddenly go "OOOOH"

Soon? Ever? Who knows

[trail wren]

even if that’s the case, it’s better to let others know it’s a theory

[undone snow]

I was pretty stupid when it came to lore when I started playing this game. I literally told my friends "I'm pretty sure the finals is actually just a simulation and nothing here is real" 😭

[woven sedge]

what if that's just what they want you to think. What if the finals is real life and we're living in a simulation, pretending to exist in real life by playing the finals

[trail wren]

i’m just talking about what is and isn’t confirmed in the lore

[sage owl]

"so the matrix movie needed funding so they made a gameshow"

[blazing stone]

what is CNS up to nowadays?

[lethal igloo]

They were sentenced to death after making terminal attack

[lethal igloo]

I hope we get a full orf episode at some point

[runic timber]

hello ^^ i’m new to the finals tbh and i’ve been intrigued by the lore can someone catch me up please im a little lost tbh on it

[wet ibex]

this is all your player character tripping after being on the za. the green barels are more galaxy gas and the glitch barrels stop you from tripping temporarirly

[runic timber]

hell yea 😎

i’m tripping on za rn

[undone snow]

This is canon

[slender gulch]

https://youtube.com/@cathrtic_archive?

[crystal sphinx]

Do we know who Discovery Corp. is? I see their name on the back of the Ospuze watch from the battlepass.

[wet ibex]

they help us discover different kinds of substances to play the finals with the za

[undone snow]

In all seriousness, I think discovery is the company who manufactures the weapons in-game. Their likeness and slogan appear on most guns.

[sly tide]

stop this game has lore?

[river latch]

Guys what if the cashboxes are little tumors in the ai brain and we are grtting paid to remove them ☝️🤓

[chilly oyster]

Is the term “the bias wrecker” one of isul-t’s shoes or is it their slogan?

[shy shoal]

Slogan, you can see it on ads for them

[chilly oyster]

Ty

[tired cradle]

So is there a lore reason for why all the S4 cosmetics have 52 plastered all over them?

[undone mural]

I think that's your own unique number

[undone mural]

Everyone is assigned one from 1-99 that appears on all the cosmetics with a number slot

[tired cradle]

Oh it's unique? That's sick! I was wondering if it was, but figured it would be too much effort lol. I'm never doubting Embark again 😆

[undone mural]

Yeah like i have 61

My friend has 8 and another friend has 73

[rare osprey]

I have 7 !

[neat atlas]

S

[void shuttle]

I have 17

[rocky glacier]

41 checking in

gotta find the players who were blessed w/ 69

[hushed hemlock]

anyone know wwhat the numbers mean?

[cinder acorn]

hi what is even the lore about? can someone make a small resume?

[trail wren]

#📕┇lore message

[cinder acorn]

Thanks!

[dense pendant]

Yeah I agree

[wet crane]

i like lore, but this game has no lore

[hushed hemlock]

irl poopy, sponsors and corporations control everything

but hey a cool* sport called The Finals is here

[wet crane]

kinda mid lore if you ask me

[hushed hemlock]

only lore we have 🤷‍♂️
more of a gameplay focused game rather than story

doesnt have any characters you can connect to you of scotty and june, and even then

[tardy spoke]

the real lore is the friends we make along the way

[river nest]

i agree with the lore

[dense pendant]

is scotty the guy from the finals or is he from another universe

(asking for a friend)

[river nest]

he is not part of the lore

[dense pendant]

oh good to know, I don't know who told me he was?

[tardy spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-gif-25836431

[dense pendant]

can we all admit that june's british accent is kinda annoying

[river nest]

is scotty a girl?

[dense pendant]

perhaps

[river nest]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN??? she sounds soooo hot

[dense pendant]

I speculated this theory of mine a while ago, does it still hold up?

[sturdy crag]

do we know who the guy in the season 2 ost thumbnail is

[lethal igloo]

Probably ariad

[wet ibex]

theyre an antidrug dealer

[stark jay]

cool

[ocean kestrel]

[tranquil sky]

June and scotty, are they completley AI? if so did they have a human voice actor to derive from? if so why isnt said voice actor voiceacting themselves?

[wet ibex]

they have a voice actor, it is now AI. it might be for design choices as some people think, or just to cut costs

[ripe rock]

I think that it maybe a good choice anyways, that just makes the game more "artificial" imo. But more interactive casters, that ressemble more to humans for an exemple, would be perfect for WT and ranked tournaments

[tranquil sky]

fair enough

[fleet elk]

they can write a message or let someone talk it and just have the voiceline. Its not costing anything. And has more flexibility. And it sounds nice af.

[tranquil sky]

Yeah but it would be amazing if they actually got the voice actors and commented live on for example a live esports event @fleet elk

[fleet elk]

ya that would be nice

[peak prism]

Hope CNS makes a return with team death match or point control mode

[floral lion]

Damn

[rain laurel]

Are Scotty and June just the commentators? Or do they both represent a certain sponsor. I know Scotty is all for ospuze idk what June is for?

[teal blaze]

theres an emote where the player picks up a phone and its either scotty asking for an ospuze sponsorship or june asking for a volpe sponsorship, so maybe volpe idk

[rain laurel]

That’s pretty cool actually, I’m trying figure out what Marcel is gonna be/do like sponser or announcer or both?

[ocean kestrel]

[woven sedge]

yo i found someone who finally gets it lets go

[woven sedge]

red and orange barrels are different flavors

[dense pendant]

Yeah I agree

[humble goblet]

ain't no way bro is down bad for june

[lethal igloo]

is the thing in the sky anything

its been there since s3

[woven sedge]

It must be somehow related to the green galaxy gas barrel because it's green

[lethal igloo]

its white

[river nest]

is that kimi?

[woven sedge]

yeah

[rain pond]

They are also on the ospuze cl40 launcher, the new one

[sour yarrow]

Orbital lasers🗣️

[exotic rampart]

I always thought there was something with the fighter jets, like the color patterns

[solid wedge]

CNS trying to do something??? idk im lost

[clear vector]

The whole map is CNS

The dot has been there since S2

[solid wedge]

i have a theory, i feel like June might be a plant by CNS. not only did she sound pretty threatening during the Hack when talking to Scotty " the writing is on the wall " but she enjoyed the changes and constantly commented about how much she likes TA and even reminds the fans and contestants about the hack this season (S4). she comments about something taking long and " almost as long as CNS has hacked us " (I'm trying to remember at 3 in the morning) but not only that i feel like a lot more is happening behind the scenes as Scotty's attitude towards June has changed as well. I theorize two reasons for this 1. Marcell told Scotty to get his act together during the reset. (in-between S3 and S4) 2. June revealed something to Scotty to try and get him to her side or to play along for a future hack or data leak. Also, i don't think CNS is out of the picture just yet since their clothing, gadgets, and whole map are still here. almost as if regardless of the reset, their influence is hard-baked into THE FINALS system as if blatantly saying " We are here to stay, and we will come back "

feel free to pitch ideas or correct me if I'm wrong about something. but I really wanna see if anything else could back this up. or see this theory develop into something else in future updates.

[empty timber]

june like terminal attack?

[solid wedge]

if you play it enough, you will occasionally hear her say how she actually likes it.

[empty timber]

damn... ive play teminal attack only like twice?

[solid wedge]

Scotty usually complains about it and shows his dislike for it and if the map is sys as well, he would even get upset about that too. " and today we go- aww what!? this map again!? what even is a SYS horizon? "

[sage owl]

Alright, new shop drop, new Ivada set. We're back on it with Ivada's military theme. Any thoughts?

[wet ibex]

something is def off about june shes interupting scotty in new season and has evolved or something as she has actual homour now

[trail wren]

ye i theorized a looong time ago that they might be related to military theme and they keep releasing cosmetics about it. we'll have to see

[lethal igloo]

It’s on every map btw

[tacit quail]

how is it on every map? care to give examples?

SYS horizon: created by CNS
Monaco: "S lies" on the wall
Seoul:
Skyway Stadium:
Kyoto:
Las Vegas: I remember there was once some glitches but now?
Fortune stadium:

[lethal igloo]

I’m talking about the thing in the sky

[trail wren]

btw there's a couple of hidden CNS messages on Kyoto as well

[knotty fractal]

The moon

[lethal igloo]

What do they say?

[trail wren]

#easter-eggs message

[lethal igloo]

Thank you :)

[craggy sleet]

wait so this means CNS is still in the system

Is there any animals associated with holtow?

[solid wedge]

the sun

[solid wedge]

in all honesty i think they are, maybe even planning another hack or data leak.

[trail wren]

yes, they still are

[wary trail]

There is June voiceline that says something about the platform and mentions "since CNS been disrupting our broadcasts"

[sturdy crag]

"S lies" is assumed to be Scotty lies right

[torpid gale]

did you know about that?

[trail wren]

it was the first theory about it

[trail wren]

yeah, it’s been discussed in #easter-eggs

[quartz island]

Wait, there are Pet’s from some of the Sponsors?

[trail wren]

Conspirakitten is mentioned in one of Holtow's cosmetic descriptions

[tardy spoke]

Mr. Rob please answer I have questions about the namatamas:

• Where do they come from?
• Why are they so cute?
• What’s the population #?
• Why are they mascots?
• What do Namatamas like to eat?
• What words do we know from namatish?
• Do namatamas root for a particular sponsor?
• Do they partake in The Finals gameplay at all?
• Lastly, plushy namatama??

I want to ping him but I also don’t want to disturb the genius himself from his work

[sonic sandal]

terminal attack X power shift when