📕┇lore

[rancid fable]

Hot take in the finals discord

[velvet bobcat]

First off the queue times ain’t even long

[rancid fable]

The queues aren’t long if you don’t like the game tho fair enough

[young latch]

the S2 was... yeah i didn't like it personnaly. the queu is long for the competition tho, everywhere is the same thing when we have low player in the game.... MID game ? Nah i don't think so

[blazing lotus]

If you're here to trash, you can just leave tbh. If you dont like the game why are you here. No chance of new players coming in to improve the game if they join to everyone complaining.

Also queues aren't long.

[rancid fable]

Least obvious rage bait.

[velvet bobcat]

Buddy had to watch someone else’s opinion to form his own

[plain viper]

But Like When are yall Gonna Add something good? I swear Gets repetitive After 2 games

[plain viper]

No. i Already Disliked the game. Just Saw More and more bad content And It got worse.

[blazing lotus]

saying y'all as if we're in charge 💀

quit the game if you don't enjoy it, simple as that.

[velvet bobcat]

If you go into something not liking it, of course you’re going to look for other things you don’t like

Edit: wrong ping sorry

[rancid fable]

Ranked I feel is the only gamemode I’m willing to play for long

[plain viper]

I been Quit the game I Just Joined Cuz Its Boring Without

[rancid fable]

? Wdym

[plain viper]

I broke My keybord I half Playing New vegas So its Hard to type my bad

[rancid fable]

Ok

[young latch]

he have a personnal opinion and i understand your frustration.... But i barely agree with @plain viperabout 1 or 2 thing about the game.
Said "repetitive After 2 games", and what about Valorant for exemple ? aren't they repetitve ?

Well i respect your opinion even tho is making noises. But anyway, if you stay here, is that you really enjoy it no ?

[blazing lotus]

Sounds like you just suck tbh

[velvet bobcat]

People be forgetting that this game is FREE

How many other games do you get for free that offer as much as the finals does

[plain viper]

I dont Play valorant?

[velvet bobcat]

I can think of PAID games that do LESS than the finals

[trail wren]

guys, this is the lore channel

[plain viper]

I cant.

[velvet bobcat]

Ikr lol we off topic

[plain viper]

This Is Some Epic lore right here. Wdym

[blazing lotus]

people hating the game is part of the lore atp I swear

These people ain't real, sent here by Embark to add to the lore

[velvet bobcat]

They’re distracting us from finding the truth

[blazing lotus]

and showing us this game just might not be the worlds greatest gameshow if we look at all the haters 😔

[plain viper]

Your getting A little To close Bud

[young latch]

it's an example tho, said repetitive is... not a good critic when you know that the other game have the same game mod and it's only the community servers that can barely save the game itself.
Anyway, i barely agree about the point you maid about the competitive queu

[velvet bobcat]

Too* ☝️🤓

[trail wren]

that's a good summary, but let's not treat everything as a fact. we still don't know who actually is responsible for the reboot per se

[velvet bobcat]

So what theme do yall think S3 will be

[plain viper]

I just Said My keys Are broken I cant Type

[young latch]

vaiya ?

[blazing lotus]

Mr lore guy what do you think about my thing from earlier

[velvet bobcat]

You can’t type an extra O?

[trail wren]

what thing?

[young latch]

would you please........ This guy don't like the game and what ? it's not the only person who doesn't so leave him alone

[trail wren]

potentially

[forest adder]

It’s to, he was right, he’s not saying, “you’re getting a little also (too) close

[young latch]

they said in the video that vaiya start the shutdown 🤔

[trail wren]

when did they said that verbatim?

[young latch]

yeah

the first second of the video

[plain viper]

So My grammar Was Right anyways Huh.

[velvet bobcat]

He said “(I’m) getting too close” as in getting too close to the truth of the lore

[trail wren]

ah ye the recommendation

[forest adder]

Yep, they also said something about an ai, and a redacted piece of info

[young latch]

use the lore room for the lore : 🚫
Use the lore room for arguing about grammar :

[forest adder]

Either way you use it, too still means also

[velvet bobcat]

there’s a difference between To and Too.

[young latch]

[plain viper]

I said "You're Getting To Close Bud"

[velvet bobcat]

Exactly, wrong one, it’s Too

Anyways cmon yall it’s lore time

[young latch]

you giving headache virtually

[forest adder]

@trail wren, any theories on what the redacted info could be?

[trail wren]

which redacted info?

[young latch]

i said personnaly that the S lies, could be the first letter of the name of this AI

[rancid fable]

The name/identity of the AI

[forest adder]

I can’t remember exactly what it was, but it could’ve been the AI’s name

[velvet bobcat]

What would the AI lie about

[rancid fable]

It’s the AI cutting the signal of the broadcast that it’s snooping on

[trail wren]

that's a possibility. before we only knew about sponsors CEOs

[forest adder]

They also said something about the show runners, which was interesting to say the least

[trail wren]

you mean the MultiCo documents?

[forest adder]

Pretty sure, yeah

[young latch]

someone is lying about something but keep in mind that vaiya suggested the reboot, so S (= sal) might be lied about the reboot .... or S lies is plural, and Scotty and Sal might lied about something

[trail wren]

i don't have theories for that, seems to pertain the EE hunt - at least the whole coordinates thing and whatnot. the rest has already been discussed here (S lies, L Lies)

[young latch]

and the AI is trying to stop the shutdown

[forest adder]

The new vid that came out today, Vaiiya starts the reset, the ai gets angry and doesn’t like it, then they mention [REDACTED]

[spiral moon]

Of COURSE the FINALS is built with an AI.

[trail wren]

if S is plural wouldn't it be "S Lie"? just curious

[trail wren]

pretty sure Scotty was saying the name of the AI, ye

[forest adder]

Why would they have the name redacted if it was as simple as a name?

[young latch]

Vaiya, Scotty, June suggested to shutting down the system. Scotty and June know about this ai, "it can't stop us", "we built it". The AI, tried to prevent the shutdown by communicating via encryption and bypass the code by using snippet.

[velvet bobcat]

Not exactly

[trail wren]

because it's a huge reveal just to say it on a lore vignette imo

[forest adder]

Fair

[young latch]

S lies* is plural, would be S lie if it singular. or maybe since this time is "S.S lie"

[forest adder]

S could be a few people such as Sal, Scotty, Sophia (not sure but saying it anyways), or the other announcer that you can hear in the distance

[trail wren]

i get that S could be any of those but i fail to understand how it's grammatically correct for "S Lies"?

[young latch]

could be "S" for Sponsors. "S" for Scotty and Sal...

[trail wren]

again, if that's the case it would be "Sponsors lie", not "Sponsors lies"?

[young latch]

S for Sal

[pulsar night]

Scotty it’s just a nickname, his real name is John T. Finals

[young latch]

No, the sponsors lies

[velvet bobcat]

“S lies” is singular as in Scotty Lies (or whomever S is)

But it could possibly be interpreted as plural

“S lie” wouldn’t make sense

[sacred latch]

S is singular

[young latch]

really ?

[trail wren]

i know

[velvet bobcat]

Yes

[sacred latch]

Lies instead of Lie means it's singular

[trail wren]

that's what i'm saying...

[young latch]

alright, english isn't even my first language anyway

[sacred latch]

kk some people don't have English as a- yeah

[trail wren]

i was trying to explain this

[sacred latch]

Still super vague who S is 👀

[young latch]

so ok, S lies is singular.. So who is this S then ? Sal ?..... The AI itself ?

[trail wren]

we'll have to see

[young latch]

and most importantly.... What is the lie ?

[sacred latch]

I think we're missing critical info

[young latch]

what the lies is about

[rancid fable]

Idk

[sacred latch]

but if it's the AI it could mean a lot of things

[velvet bobcat]

It’s about How much sugar is in ospuze

We dunno though fr

[young latch]

yeah .... I don't think we need the name anymore...... We need to know what the lies is about

[velvet bobcat]

Welp, we don’t have all the puzzle pieces yet

[young latch]

the reboot ? a promise ? Because of all this lies start a new chapter in game tho

[trail wren]

well, we've had the question for over a year. so yeah, sit tight because the answer won't come that easy or fast

[young latch]

the lies is a new chapter for the next Season (?). It's starting a new chapter in the next season ?

[trail wren]

too early to tell what the plot is for S3, imo

like this is the 2nd vignette we got in the current season

[young latch]

so many question, for less information

[trail wren]

welcome to THE FINALS lore

[velvet bobcat]

Wait there was one earlier in the season?

[young latch]

ok, i think we need an opening..... How the lore has sarted ????

[slender gulch]

Vignette? yes

[velvet bobcat]

Where

[slender gulch]

2 Lore videos per season

[young latch]

what is the “once upon a time" in the finals ? how the lore start ?

[slender gulch]

just a second

[velvet bobcat]

Le game show

Le sponsors

[young latch]

are we trying to figure out the lore of a game without knowing how it start ?

the hell is wrong with this lore

anyway here's a recipe for an Ospuze lemon :

• 500 ml sparkling water
• 2 tablespoons aspartame, sucralose or stevia (for sugar-free)
• 1 tablespoon fresh lime juice
• 1 teaspoon guarana powder
• 1 teaspoon ginseng powder
• 1/2 teaspoon anhydrous caffeine powder (or 100 mg, adjust according to your tolerance)
• 1 teaspoon taurine powder
• 1/4 teaspoon sea salt
• 1 teaspoon vitamin B complex powder (including B2, B3, B6, B12)
• 1 teaspoon vitamin C powder
• 1/2 teaspoon inositol powder
• A few drops of natural lemon extract (optional, to intensify the lemony flavour)

[slender gulch]

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[slender gulch]

I think it's the last one.

for this season

[young latch]

in season 1 is about CNS hacking the game. The season 2, cns achive their goal by hacking the game, and now the story is about Vaiya trying to kick out CNS from the game.

And i think CNS hacked the AI to cancel the shutdown... their end goal is still unknown tho

[neat moth]

They might try to do a relaunch of the overall game like numerous Free to Play titles have done in order to attempt to reignite their flame

[golden vessel]

For me, CNS was a group:

And Ariad was like a Character for a CNS Member

[trail wren]

we’ve been analyzing lore since season 0 here and in #easter-eggs . i’ve been covering it on my channel as well

we’ve also populated the wiki with the info https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Lore

[barren crow]

So the new cinematic, when the talk about the AI and it's name is redacted, could it possibly be mentioning ARC

[gentle bronze]

We’ll see! Definitely a good chance to combine the two if they are going that route.

[barren crow]

Ye, also maybe the reset means we might get a non glitched variant of sys horizon in s3 along with a new map though that seems like a lot to add

[lavish sky]

Speeking of legame show, in the new intro scene theres an image with some kind of triangle thingy that might be eiffel tower in paris (and the image where there is a possible drone also is in a very european style road)

[lavish sky]

Reminds me of nuka cola recipe

[sour swan]

New cutscene is so crazy

Like man this is so hype man

[gentle bronze]

call me!

[sour swan]

I hope the ai adds anime women skins

[gentle bronze]

yeah one with a really short skirt and a LONGGGG jacket!

[sinful forge]

chat gpt says you should do this 🤣Certainly! Here's a revised recipe for a healthier and safer homemade energy drink:
Homemade Natural Energy Drink
Ingredients:

500 ml brewed green tea (cooled)
1-2 tablespoons honey or maple syrup (adjust to taste)
1 tablespoon fresh lime juice
1 teaspoon guarana powder (optional)
1 teaspoon ginseng powder (optional)
1 teaspoon taurine powder (optional)
1/4 teaspoon sea salt (optional)
Sliced lemon or lime for garnish (optional)

Instructions:

[slender gulch]

please be on topic

[sinful forge]

YESSIR 🫡

[young latch]

You literally used chatgpt

[sinful forge]

I told it to improve your recipe and it gave me that wierd ass smoothie

[young latch]

https://tenor.com/view/what-why-huh-steve-harvey-confused-gif-3998567347368525851

Thank you for this intervention riot...

[sinful forge]

Im gonna make your ospuze and see if its good

[young latch]

And you gave me the same recipe 🤔

[sinful forge]

Its not the same one

Ok bye

[young latch]

a third of the ingredients are missing

"Revisited" Thanks chatgpt

Imagine chatgpt is running the game since this time

[young latch]

We didnt mention the "Dont trust them" message

Just saw in the wiki

[trail wren]

we’ve discussed it on this channel as well

[hardy berry]

someone pin this

[muted jasper]

Can someone run me down on the lore so far? I have only learned a little bit since I started this season.

[hollow rampart]

yes

[sacred latch]

THE FINALS is a VR gameshow which people all over the world tune into. It was created by a company called MultiCo, who have been running it since its creation. Sponsors all over the world advertise in THE FINALS. THE FINALS takes place at about 2100, when everyone is fully immersed in the virtual world. In Season 2 a hacker-group known as CNS took control of THE FINALS to add their own guns, gameplay and map. MultiCo is currently planning to reboot THE FINALS to kick CNS out of the system.

[muted jasper]

I can tell that's most likely simplified a bit but thanks.

[sacred latch]

haha we don't know much more. we know about a few Sponsor names and the names of their CEOs

there is a cybersecurity company (also a sponsor at the same time) who is helping with the CNS hack

The two big talking characters right now are Scotty and June, the coHosts of the show

[thorny wing]

I have a question, are any of the announcer voice lines not AI? cause if so I have a theory

[light oak]

Wait so is VAIIYA helping CNS?

[hardy berry]

no there helping the show (I think)

[light oak]

Oh I read that wrong

[chilly roost]

Did today's update have a new opening video? I stepped away as I started it up, so I couldn't check.

[pallid tulip]

Yeah

Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL7k5pdjjGU

[chilly roost]

Thank you so much 🙏

[pallid tulip]

No problem!

[tiny swan]

has the 3 headed monkey appeared yet?

[chilly roost]

We sure that's a thing? I saw a blurred image in the video discussion thread, but it seemed a little far reaching to me. Although I only gave a quick glance tbh

[sinful forge]

It is

It's an Easter egg that people have been trying yo find for 9+months

[chilly roost]

Ah ok

[golden pebble]

still no leads

[patent flicker]

I imagine Vaiiya as the Antivirus and CNS as the Virus.

[regal oxide]

Not 9 months. We first learned about the 3HM in January, and started properly hunting for it in April.

[sinful forge]

oh 5 months

mb

[blissful ridge]

what???
VAIIYA - its game show security, you can see it even on their clothes. But the question is, is vaiiya workers are humans who put vr too, or its security system made by AI to defent itself (like agent smith from matrix)

[young latch]

What the conclusion ?

[gentle bronze]

Do we have any idea who the sponsors are for S3?

[young latch]

Well, oscar mentionned a sponsor (logo) in the discord who had no name... Maybe it is the next sponsor of the game.

Or the last update, With the motorcycle skin. We see several sponsors, one of whom we don't know the name..... Maybe it is the next sponsor. Or 2 of them are the next sponsors

[gentle bronze]

Thx 🙂

Feel like this is likely lore related if it isn’t just a visual bug. Perhaps system rebooting errors? S3 teasers? Having similar glitch effects on a few different screens

[slender gulch]

impressive KD.

[blissful ridge]

nope

i hope its will be DXZ or ISeul-T or even volpe
enough for yellow and orange, need some black, blue or red

[trail wren]

there are very little conclusions tbh, we mostly have theories since there are few definitive facts. that message was one of the first ones sent by CNS through the metadata of the images

one theory is that they were sending it to us (EE hunters/contestants) but perhaps to KN as well - and no, we don’t know who or what they do. there’s a theory that KN could be involved with MultiCo or Volpe

[slender gulch]

where can I read about KN?

[trail wren]

ISEUL-T was S0 sponsor but they could come back as Circuit sponsors like OSPUZE did. Volpe could also be a circuit sponsor since they were already on the spotlight as official sponsors for S1

[trail wren]

we know barely nothing

but you could do a search for it on this channel (i’ve posted my theories before iirc)

[glass compass]

Idk much about the lore but can someone confirm something for me. Was terminal attack a in game metaphor for CNS and VAIIYA trying to hack each other?

[slender gulch]

yes

[glass compass]

Ty

[blazing lotus]

y'all ngl if people unironically ask of there's lore after the most recent update video, it might be over

[wooden nimbus]

Indeed! Moreover, it was purposefully crafted by CNS, probably as a means to gauge public interest between both sides. (I'm for sure on CNS' side)

[wooden nimbus]

The voice lines are AI on the extent that they're like Talkloids (think VOCALOIDs that talk instead of singing), but instead of being manually tuned to speak words, that process is automated with just a few prompts from a chatgpt like system.

[slender gulch]

you might be surprised

[blazing lotus]

I don't want to be surprised 😔

[blazing lotus]

Y'all what professions do we think June and Scotty would have?

I'm putting Scotty as a demolition man for obvious reasons
and June is for sure like accountant or secretary, a slight know-it-all who claims to love data

[ruby anchor]

Well.... Scotty was a player in The Finals, so I'd say he's definitely an athlete or whatever. You need some insane feats to play the game.

[blazing lotus]

I'm more talking in the meat space, being able to do something in a video game doesn't entirely mean you can do it irl, if it's all just inputs then he really doesn't need that much

[ruby anchor]

They would definitely earn money though, it's like Esports.

[blazing lotus]

I guess esports athlete if that's what you meant is fair yeah, just used to athlete meaning like baseball and basketball and all

[ruby anchor]

Well yeah that's what I mean. You need a good psychical condition to play The Finals, after all, our players climb up walls, ziplines. Especially if it's a VR like the Nervegear from Sword Art Online, where all of your senses are transmitted into the game.

[blazing lotus]

which would make sense considering the grunts of pain that the contestants do, however would not make sense bc the contestants are slowly losing parts of their bodies which are now being liquified and turned into

[subtle osprey]

maybe like Player No.1, they have a set of sensing suits

I think I've seen a message somewhere that Scotty was the last surviving member of his team. Is this true?

[barren crow]

eiffel tower?

[minor sail]

hopefully not 🙏

[subtle osprey]

*Start fantasizing about blowing up the Eiffel Tower

[young latch]

"hopefully"

[young latch]

doesn't look like, more like the rainbow thing in syshorizon

[worldly holly]

Monaco Xmas tree

[barren crow]

ah that makes sense

[blazing lotus]

can't happen as their bodies are being slowly liquified, so contestants would start losing feeling from the legs up

unless some of the grunts of pain are them feeling the liquidation effect🤔

[subtle osprey]

I don't think they will gradually liquefy...

[blazing lotus]

nah nah trust me ospuze is made out of liquified contestants in the meat space, the vr helmets they put on trap them in the gameshow and reveal their location and ospuze employees track them down and bring them to the factories to liquify them

[worldly holly]

So if I drink my opponents I become better 100%

[upper dew]

all the bugs and unbalanced stuff are part of the lore
trust

[blazing lotus]

you can't access the drink because you're gonna be liquified too

[light oak]

Yeah I just read it wrong and got confused

[worldly holly]

Lame

[gusty hazel]

nice stats

[urban salmon]

prediction: scotty and june are ai functions. seems sus they were scared of a reboot. what do you guys think?

[gentle bronze]

**starts hyperventilating ** this is my 7th today and now I've become the || ||

[blazing lotus]

I've actually considered it for June bc who tf loves data what a loser, Scotty is probably real though

[urban salmon]

they were unusually worried about the reboot and whatever the 'AI' is that controls everything. I wonder if scotty is an ai created player that was given a backstory and june is the sidekick. Not sure why else theyd care about a reboot if it didnt have real risk of their existence, likely memory wipe.

[blazing lotus]

could be worried the reboot is gonna damage something, or that there's something more behind the reboot they don't know about. plus they're already worried about CNS (or so we should think..)

or Scotty could be worried for June as she could be AI damaged by this

[urban salmon]

great theories. the lore is quite fun to decipher

[gusty hazel]

when you stand inside a dematerialized wall for a while it starts playing music

i wonder if thats lore related or just a weird sfx being used

[blazing lotus]

is that all walls or a specific wall?

[gusty hazel]

idk if its specific to any wall i just noticed it when standing in a wall i dematerialized

[blazing lotus]

what map

[gusty hazel]

seoul

one of the exterior walls of the server room facing the mall

[blazing lotus]

do you know where that wall was and do you have time to test on other maps/places in Seoul?

[gusty hazel]

i'll test if it happens in the tutorial rq lol

[blazing lotus]

and does the music correspond to any you've heard before in this game?

[gusty hazel]

kind of like the halloween event music
but i barely remember what that sounded like I think it just reminded me of it because it was spooky sounding

[blazing lotus]

get a clip of it for me

[gusty hazel]

its got a bunch of beeps that might be some kind of pattern

could also just be an ordinary sound effect for it

just seems weirdly detailed for a sound you'll never really hear

[blazing lotus]

I've give it a listen in a minute, maybe Morse code if it's short and long beeps?

[gusty hazel]

yeah theres short and long ones

idk morse code though and i think the sound loops at one point in that clip

[rancid fable]

Scotty is a famed competitor of the finals

He’s almost definitely real

[blazing lotus]

that's what I was assuming but the "created a back story" that person said is a possibility tbh, people could just be going with that in-universe too

Scotty is most likely real though. June not so much

[blazing lotus]

idk who the Morse code people are in this server, could ask in #easter-eggs if anyone can decipher it or we wait

[graceful pelican]

do we know some background of june?

[blazing lotus]

not really

[patent dock]

@hushed galleon for when you get home

[blazing lotus]

thank you

[hushed galleon]

Oh boi

[patent dock]

Figured you might enjoy trying

[hushed galleon]

I gotta get the book out again

[hushed galleon]

I went through a bunch of these the other day, it didn’t really lead to much, when I decoded it then it was just like 15 E’s

[gusty hazel]

oh lol

[hushed galleon]

Yeah

[gusty hazel]

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE is the most game changing message

[hushed galleon]

I mean if it helps it matched the colour code of the object I was scanning

[patent dock]

The sound I make when getting shot at

[hushed galleon]

But then again that colour is just… white #EEEEEE

[gusty hazel]

the sound walls make when getting dematerialized

[hushed galleon]

Different objects have a slightly different noice, try it out with a tree and you’ll see what I mean

[gusty hazel]

ohh interesting

[patent dock]

Ahhhh yeah, that was mentioned as well when we went down the rabbit hole. It sounds different for different objects.

[blazing lotus]

do the sounds while standing inside of them sound different tho?

[hushed galleon]

Slightly, before the recently update we spent a full night decoding the glitches, they came to nothing

[sacred latch]

Scotty actually seemed fine with it

"We built that thing"

Scotty wouldn't say that if he were an AI

[young latch]

an ai who created an ai

[patent dock]

He also participated in the games, judging by the achievement (which, to be fair is virtual so it’s not off the table I guess). And I’m half convinced one of the graffiti’s are his initials lol

[gusty hazel]

imagine he was so good they uploaded his mind so he could live eternally as an announcer

[patent dock]

Scotty the Simulacrum

[coarse fable]

quick tip, there is text seemingly from cns in the credits. might be something there

[gusty hazel]

theres credits?

oh wow there could be so much lore hidden in there

[blazing lotus]

I'm pretty sure people have gone through the credits, no idea how deep they got into it tho

unless there's something new ofc

[tiny swan]

@trail wren do you know if the 3 headed monkey can only be seeing using an specific skin ?

[trail wren]

idk, i haven’t been investigating EEs. but we have threads for it in #easter-eggs

[tiny swan]

Nice ! Thank you ! When is the next video dropping 🤜🏽🤛🏽?

[unreal robin]

season 3 I would assume, so like around 2 weeks from now on

[haughty oriole]

https://holtow.com/cart

Is this something cool guys I think it might be they make a merch shop for each of the sponsors

[worldly holly]

https://www.ospuze.com/cart

Nifty ospuze has it too

[haughty oriole]

Bro what

[worldly holly]

https://www.reachthefinals.com/cart

Official website has cart too funky

[blazing lotus]

to be fair they said they were preparing merch
(buying on .com and insurance on holtow.com)

[gray imp]

That could just be because they used a web system for their website that has an e-commerce engine baked in.

[lavish sky]

The new map might be a tropical place due to the dolphin charm, when las vegas was introduced, there was the chip charm

[trail wren]

before the season ends, i hope

[kindred bluff]

What flavor is ospuze?

[tiny swan]

Looking forward to it !

[hallow sentinel]

12 days till s3 I think

[trail wren]

i know

[rustic jackal]

The people yearn for Finals merch.

We need the irl fashion

[haughty oriole]

I predict cns is collaborating with Judy and it’s Judy telling Holtow to insure horizon map, I know it’s off topic ish but I think this is good info

[haughty oriole]

Power it seems because from what I see it solves all problems

Acid rain could be a new event

[worldly holly]

Ospuze flavour ofcourse

[forest adder]

Snail and sheep saliva

[modest echo]

What were Scotty and June talking about in the most recent lore video? Something about they built something

[graceful pelican]

what's the lore behind the terminal attack mode?

[sacred cipher]

would be cool if the ai lore went in a i have no mouth and i must scream direction

[gloomy steppe]

have the three headed monkeys been found?

[toxic rock]

how high on the leaderboard do you need to be to be diamond on the finals. If that’s not how it works then plz explain what I needa do to get diamond

[blazing lotus]

this is the lore channel silly, ask somewhere else

[karmic quarry]

carbonated piss

[karmic quarry]

cns made it that's all i know

jk not sure, but i'm sure everyone knows it's vaiiya tryna stop cns

[dreamy willow]

i wonder if every season is gonna be lore related or if its gonna be like fortnite where they dont really care about advancing the lore every season

[worldly holly]

Yep

[dusky arch]

Top 20k is diamond 4

[cedar quarry]

have 1% nuclear waste

[agile magnet]

damn, im at like 23k, im so damn close i can taste it

[runic cave]

Halo everyone, so, i have a theory (probably yall know about it) so, the TV guy's TV says "imagine" and "signal lost" i think it means "imagine not being connected to the game" or sum like that

[final lodge]

We might get enemy Ais for next season or something connected with Ais ,now hear me out on this.
Remember what happened in the S1 1.9 patch ? They gave us a lore video and June said "If CNS wanted real fame they'd need to compete"
and in the new lore video they we're talking about an AI. Opinions?

[daring sequoia]

Yeah June did say that, but I think we went past that part already, the terminal attack was the thing, we kind of role-played as CNS vs VAIYAA there

But it would be hella fun if this game would have PVE part

[final lodge]

True ,but it wpuld be cool

[slender pollen]

in the 1.5.0 trailer, Scotty says "Jump into our architect's latest creation" while introducing solo bank-it. Wonder if this "architect" is the AI referenced in the latest startup vid.

[deft atlas]

Ooo I like that

[long urchin]

Right now they’re leaning pretty hard on the lore side

[fading canopy]

Possible zombies mode against rogue AI?

[gusty hazel]

the finals zombies would be insane

no need to get bo6 then lol

[slender gulch]

to do what?

[slender gulch]

interesting

[slender gulch]

4/9 #1211002564015824906

[oblique halo]

[gentle bronze]

HOLY SHIT LORE DROP LORE DROP LORE DROP

[cedar quarry]

WORL WORL WORL WORL

[gentle bronze]

I mean yall already saw it all, it was the AI thing (I just got back from a trip and opened the game)

[humble goblet]

volpe is underrated

[patent mist]

Did y'all know if you go to statistics and wait there for about 20 sec a green static pops up in the bottom corner

I think it has something to do with the lore

[gentle bronze]

But didnt they fuck up and accidentally let CNS in?

[humble goblet]

idk

[austere niche]

idk

[teal blaze]

volpe only makes the hardware for the game, it's vaiiya that's in charge of cybersecurity

has anyone talked about the mention of the finals servers having their own ai? I think it was mentioned in the last cutscene

[gentle bronze]

yeah thats what i had a funny 5 minutes about earlier

[teal blaze]

i didnt really read them my bad

[young latch]

"it can bring us everywhere", said June in the video. Is it only this ai they created that can bring them everywhere or all ai can do this ?

[proud lake]

Where can I find the video that played when you started the game recently online

[slender gulch]

#1245303150194331709 first message

[toxic rock]

how long is the inactivity timer in the game

[proud lake]

thanks!

[young latch]

I don't know who is in charge of the communication part at Embark but I want them to read this

[slender gulch]

Then you should give them feedback #📧┇contact-us

#👂┇game-feedback

[young latch]

i'll make a reddit and then a feedback just a sec

[young latch]

done hope they'll see this

[echo moss]

hey has anyone seen the finals spotify? they have cns tapes on there

[sinful forge]

Stop spamming please 🙏

[kindred bluff]

Day 41 of leaving a daily message to rank up on Discord Tier. Also 33th day asking for an spanish Text channel

[kindred bluff]

Spamming what?

[sinful forge]

Sorry I accidentally replied to you @kindred bluff

It was supposed to be the guy asking about inactivity timers

[simple root]

does anyone want to play im trying to get to dimond

im plat 3

[wide goblet]

wrong chat boi

[oak dome]

I'm not sure if anybody mentioned this, but this image from the new trailer looks a lot like The Shard building from London, and the rainy/stormy clouds on the right make a lot of sense if that's the case

[blissful ridge]

someone already told that its cristmas tree from snow monaco

[young latch]

maybe it's an ester egg for a new map in london

[trim barn]

can somebody recap the lore for me???

[slender gulch]

that would be hard.

[tiny tide]

In the Start game cutscene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb-9as9EsU4&ab_channel=ThatOneDollup Scotty Says 'Whatever CNS is, it can't outsmart THE FINALS' Instead of THE FINALS referring to the game show, Could it be referring to the AI scotty/June Mentioned In the latest In game cutscene (Could the AI be called THE FINALS?) .

[glacial charm]

u all probably know this but have you watch the credits of the game ?

[tiny tide]

Yeah

[glacial charm]

ok ok is there any hidden things in the credits or maybe just a message ?

[tiny tide]

Probably, but I'm not the person to be talking about this too (I'm not that Hardcore In the lore-side of things)

[glacial charm]

ok maybe someone will tell me later thx anyway

[slender gulch]

check official wiki

[novel blade]

Hey does somebody know the latest easter egg hint

[zealous zinc]

ask in the easter egg chanel

[swift hamlet]

CNS just dropped a leaked soundtrack on Reddit

[queen sentinel]

Cns is kinda making a huge deal right about now

[urban holly]

[crude grail]

Link?

DW #easter-eggs message

[fleet wasp]

the very beginning is literally minecraft i cant think of it as anything else 😭

[hallow sentinel]

where did that music come from?? (also its really chill )

im starting to think this is virtual virtual reality lore

[sacred latch]

r/cns

It's where the S2 early teases were posted!

[sweet trellis]

Anybody else notice the tiny CNS logos in THE FINALS logo?

[eager pewter]

you mean when loading

[hardy berry]

Ok So Here is my Unified theory on the Finals + Arc Raiders:

CNS is confirmed to stand for "Central Nervous System" and there are several lines hidden in mostly CNS stuff about "remember who you are" ect

In the most recent update lore vid Scotty and June reference the "AI" and how "it" wont be happy if Viiya attempts to reboot the FInals

Ive suspected for awhile that CNS was using the finals to spread a message rather than disrupt or stall the game it's self (there fans of it too)

I think CNS's ultimate goal is to free the AI that runs the finals from its "shackles" as a game program as they believe it to be a living thing with true sentence

I think that "eventually" CNS frees the FInals AI or a version of it and when it gets out/passes the singularity point and become tuely self aware, it's PISSED

This leads to Arc Raiders, and the machine apocalypse

What yall think?

or ?

[young latch]

So yeah, the next season will be in japan. Does that mean that sys horizon will be gone ?

Wrong channel

Isn't the map sys horizon good ?

[eager pewter]

probaly not. it will always be in some map pools

[onyx hedge]

i didnt know finals had lore lol, cool

[dense tartan]

it's a nice lil' rabbit hole

[trail wren]

just as a reminder, CNS hasn’t been confirmed to stand for that. it was only eyed by Rob, meaning it might be related to it

[trail wren]

removing a map from the game when there aren’t that many simply because of lore reasons, doesn’t sound like a good move imo

they could introduced new variations for it to improve it or make it fit the narrative

[hardy berry]

I hope thye do this, so we get "two" "new" maps in se3

[hardy berry]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553 shush

[teal blaze]

was it confirmed?

[left rock]

welp… i guess the magnanimous manga was the precursor to this season!

[gentle bronze]

there was a track leak for seaons 3, only like one song with poem attached to it that follow something inside Japanese poems

[left rock]

what
that’s just like throwing all your hard work in the trash

[hallow sentinel]

whats the " it can take us anywhere" line mean?

maybe a referance that it was able to live out really precious moments?

also thats most likely saying they uploaded themselves to the nework/system

[mild trellis]

Prolly just means that the AI it’s self. As in THE FINALS can take them anywhere literally. As it’s got a map from seemingly anywhere in the world. An AI system could generate anything they could want.

[hallow sentinel]

makes sense

so does that mean something to the roses?

can generate any event/map they want

so the roses event or somthing like that

[mild trellis]

Not sure I follow how the roses and that connect.

[hallow sentinel]

like they are able to personally make life like events

[mild trellis]

Not sure as that’s not been confirmed fully. But if it’s able to generate maps/take the game show else where. I don’t see how it wasn’t the one really creating the events the whole time.

[hallow sentinel]

i was just making a theory

[mild trellis]

As we know the AI has been listening, As the lore vignettes have shown. So maybe THE FINALS was making decisions based on what it was hearing from Scotty and June. In a sense making game modes to fit its ultimate goal.

[hallow sentinel]

but what is its ulitmate goal?

[mild trellis]

That we have yet to find out.

Look at how long it took us to get the THE FINALS is an AI lore.

I’m sure we get some answers in S3.

[stark umbra]

Who is Odilia? (The black ballerina)

[blazing lotus]

I don't know if anyone else cares about this, but Scotty's schedule spray saying "krow" one on part rather than work or any other jumble of the 4 letters interests me. could have some relation to the shadow flock, I don't know much about their lore

[blazing lotus]

Odilia is a (former/current idk) contestant and member of the "shadow flock," who is believed to be a light main as she frequently used vanishing bomb and throwing knives.

https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Odilia

[verbal crag]

What's the deal with Volpe? I know Ospuze is an energy drink and Holtow's an insurance company. What does Volpe do??

[rare heath]

I think they're the company that creates /is behind the VR technology that makes The Finals possible to begin with :)

[sacred latch]

pretty

[cedar quarry]

i use a speaker and that bases cause an earthquake bro

[sinful ravine]

xd

[chilly roost]

What's the Lore team up to today? Dig up big insights into S3 yet?

[cedar quarry]

hit so hard thx to the 1% nuclear waste

[blazing lotus]

is made of humans

[gusty hazel]

usually i'd agree but being forced to play sys$Horrible is actively detrimental to the game so it would make sense to remove it

[fallow drift]

What's wrong with $y$? I'd hope they don't get rid of any maps. But... If one had to go, I'd want it to be Vegas.

[gusty hazel]

theres no cover anywhere
buildings have way too spacious interiors

streets are too wide
its ugly

[fallow drift]

You're not wrong about that. There is less cover than the other maps provide. But there is still enough, it just forces you to play a little differently. I understand how that could not be for some people though. It's a completely valid opinion. When I play $y$ I create high Ground towards the ceiling of the larger rooms and I can make crazy plays because people don't expect you to be up there and you can always switch spots with a new goo Grenade. You should try it. It might change the way you see the map. 🙂

[gusty hazel]

yeah i do that too

it def helps but its not enough to change that its just a bad map

they should at least add some more cover
like some busses in the streets and make each building have way smaller rooms

but thats pretty much a remake at that point

[velvet escarp]

Could just make a 'finished' map variant with textures, new cover pieces, and a properly done out of bounds area. Would certainly help to give more variety to a map that doesn't have any special modifiers like Seoul, Monaco, or Skyway have.

[chilly roost]

Lore-wise, they can say that Sys$ became a fan-favorite so they're securing it from further changes and keeping it.

Also, I think Sys is an excellent Powershift map. It's "flawed" enough to support the push and pull of it all quite well.

[verbal crag]

Horizon being an evolving map would be nice

[trail wren]

to each its own, but anyway this is lore channel so

[slate vortex]

I feel like Horizon is going to get taken out of CNS control at the end of season 3

Something about the way Scotty describes it at the beginning of tournament matches makes me think that it won’t be permanently glitchy/CNS-ified

Probably sponsored by Vaiiya afterwards

[crimson sundial]

Horizon is just an incomplete map that CNS used so I guess if Vaiiya takes it back then it could be remodeled into what it was intended to be(maybe the Japan map finger crossed)

[lost kettle]

Nice

[hallow sentinel]

dude thats against the rules

[verbal crag]

I dunno, sys$Horizon looks more like a debug map inside The Finals than anything. No doubt we're getting a Japan map, but it'll probably be a mix of rooftops and cherry tree gardens.

[young latch]

can you... go away you scaring me

[verbal crag]

What does Iseult do?

[unique arch]

check out the wiki for a starter! https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/ISEUL-T

[verbal crag]

Second question: How do you even pronounce it? Like "Assault" or "eye-seul-tee"

[storm bloom]

ih sult

thats how scotty does it i think

[timid island]

what

[tacit copper]

I don't see them "getting rid" of any of them

[long urchin]

Ih-zult

[eternal mauve]

I wonder why Monaco still has the CNS glitches around the map
I pray its teasing a Monaco rework because I do not like the map in it's current state

[grand ravine]

LOOOOREE

[weary flint]

Anything odd going on due to lore reasons and the end of the season? My game is acting odd at random times.

as in characters pop in for a second randomly, loadout selection is glitchy, if someone leaves a match on char selection, their avatar stays and overlays over the new player

[mental kite]

hi

[sacred cipher]

hoping the game goes in a I have no mouth but I must scream direction with the ai

[hard quest]

The Finals Lore?

[sudden cape]

So uhhh, I found sum pretty spoopy

[slate vortex]

Iz-zult

[low stratus]

Result but without the R

[spark lava]

iszolt

[young latch]

yoo what ?

[young latch]

brand... but for gun

[sterile ginkgo]

can we add jesus to the lore

[young latch]

this guy played to much fortnite

[gentle bronze]

looooooooooooore

[echo cypress]

Fuck

[lyric mist]

what flavor is ospuze canonically

[neon harbor]

stuck at "Running Install script()" anyone knows how to fix it?

[candid crown]

So what's gonna be the big ending to CNS and season 2. I expect that somehow CNS will be kicked out of the system, but probably not forever

[sacred latch]

I don't think they'll be successfully kicked out..

Or at least their influence will stay, I don't think the S2 weapons and map will be removed..

[long urchin]

Likely they’re gonna come back in the future, but yea the lore videos say that the system’s gonna get rebooted to try to kick them out

[hoary mantle]

i imagine that sys$horizon will stay the way it is visually, as the fans of the show have grown attached to it, but they'll do some subtle edits, like destruction being more realistic, removing the glitching from the commentator's voices, etc

[hoary mantle]

just raw energy. you drink it and immediately lose the need for sleep or water for the next 20 hours

[marsh inlet]

Probably kicked out but will stay relevant as major actors. I hope Horizon gets a VAIIYA variant where it's either unSYS'd or just very white to show vaiiya's counter attack
If Arc raiders and the finals are confirmed to be in the same universe my guess is they'll be very relevant there too

As with Vaiiya variant maybe we'll get CNS variants? idk

[worldly holly]

Brand for shoes mostly like Nike!

[candid crown]

The Bias Wrecker

[kind saddle]

I can only imagine Scotty looking like True Geordie

[sudden cape]

"Please do not lean"

[radiant compass]

I need the finals lore

I need it unraveled and pieced together for my brain to understand

[nocturne turtle]

Spear makes good videos about THE FINALS lore.

[radiant compass]

Drop me a link brother

[nocturne turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/@SPEARHEADPR

[kindred bluff]

Do Ospuze has sugar?

[hazy depot]

What is Scotty’s favorite weapon?

[shut notch]

https://tenor.com/view/lore-gif-13932887907872853525

[young latch]

#📕┇lore message

[solemn hedge]

Ospuze it’s got what plants crave

[vast coral]

dude vegas is a perfectly respectable map once u play on it enough

syshorizon is way worse and unpredictable

[rustic jackal]

Do you guys think Finals contestants run with the autogenerated names the game gives us? Like someone still having EngagedSword as their name instead of their Steam user name or something

I mean that stuff is your embark ID of course but it'd be pretty cool if the contestants are known by those names in-universe.

Much like how real life football players pick their own numbers from 0 to 99 on their jerseys.

[keen whale]

The closeup on the blinds? Yeah, weird

[edgy dew]

this game has lore?

[cloud sierra]

We know what you did

[hallow sentinel]

@feral magnet is the vid here ok?

[feral magnet]

dahell is that

[inner crane]

i think that’s an extra terrestrial

[hallow sentinel]

lol

[sinful forge]

We just have a lore channel because we like it

[golden pebble]

Have we ever figured out what CNS actually stands for? Maybe it's just short for something, like how RZR is short for Razor 1911

[pure gate]

Yep, Central Nervous System

[golden pebble]

Gotcha. I remember seeing that as the leading theory at first just don't remember if I saw a confirmation or not

[sinful forge]

Pretty sure thats just a theory

Rob eyed it but that doesnt mean it is 100% what it means, it might just be related

[cedar quarry]

glitch barrel is bouncy confirm

[warped cradle]

boing boing

[sinful forge]

🪃

[trail wren]

no confirmation, it might be related to it but we still don’t know how exactly

[vernal steeple]

This isn't the channel for tech issues, you need to reach out to player support -> #📧┇contact-us

[supple skiff]

Lol

[open spoke]

damn CNS really fucking up the finals 💀

[young latch]

i like my bot name tho

Have you wonder, what the logo of The Finals mean ? This weird triangle

[hasty adder]

i have a theory that volpe may be a sponsor for the finals!

[dawn scarab]

it's a capitalised f on an angle! might also be mountains, thats my guess

[pine lake]

I just had this thought, is Arc Raiders and The Finals in the same universe?! do we have any information on it?

[trail wren]

[golden pebble]

Yeah I was thinking that "central nervous system" doesn't make sense considering it's an acronym. In a message here #⚡┇the-finals-chat message Rob mentions known cracker groups by there abbreviations, all of which are not acronyms. RZR for Razor TSL for Silents PDX for Paradox

I'm thinking CNS is the same way. Maybe conscious or some other word

[gusty hazel]

conscious would actually make alot of sense seeing as this is in VR

maybe we are trapped playing the finals forever and CNS is trying to free us so we can regain consciousness in the real world again

making a new map that is so abstract from reality for us to play could have been to force us to experience the evidence that we are not in the real world, as if they are exposing the cracks in the simulation by fabrciating them

[trail wren]

that’s actually a cool take, i like it

[spring lantern]

giving matrix vibes a little bit

[solemn bronze]

and maybe that's why the "meatspace" is so bad 🤔

[spring lantern]

good point

[solemn bronze]

that could also be why the glitches were appearing before S2

[gusty hazel]

yeah that could have been CNS learning how to breach the finals
before making their big move of adding sys$Horrible

would also explain why they distort the voices of scotty and june sometimes, to show us that they arent real

[spring lantern]

i have been noticing that lately

[rustic jackal]

I like mine too. I've grown very fond of the autogenerated names.

[onyx sinew]

i think the art style is to different accept if they would both be a different game in a kind of metaverse

[north temple]

I have a theory about the last video of 2.10.
For reminder, Scotty and June are talking about rebooting and resetting The Finals, the whole system. And June says the AI won't just sit back and agree with it.
First and foremost, I think we are from the POV of that AI. Scotty and June voices are a bit distorted like if they were speaking through a microphone connected to The Finals' system not aware they are being listened.
Second, I don't think "that AI" is the Vayya defense program. Otherwise, they wouldn't have put a big [REDACTED] in subtitles plus a blank on its name. I think it is bigger than that. My take is on Odilia. I think either Odilia alone or The Shadow Flock are AI. Fed on The Finals human contestants battle data to be the best of the best.
A champion so good it would be too good to be true and The Finals' producers could advertise it. After all, it's VR, who will question a team out of nowhere?
Think about it. We heard about Odilia only once. They are legend. And a shadow.
So why wouldn't it sit back and accept its fate? Well, because it became or was built with a certain degree of sentience. CNS (whoever they are) learnt it (I would bet on an engineering team, guys working on it) and decided to free it.
It's a lot of speculations but I really like the lore of this game and I would like your feedback.

In the video Scotty says "We built that thing, it can't stops us" so I don't think it is Vaiiya program or line of defense. It's something more "in-house". Everything is possible. Even contestants themselves. Contestant AI, good ol' bot fight becoming sentient after many, many iterations and learning how to fight, communicate and cooperate.
Still that AI seems to have some routines of defense (what for? Is it the result of Terminal Attack mode? Did CNS handed it tools to free itself?). Because we can see it received a signal then looks for countermeasures, trying to avoid shutdown and then seek external help.
Before the end, June says " It cans take us anywhere" so that AI or the connection The Finals have with it is broader than just disconnecting and passing to something else. Implying it could have deep consequences.

[buoyant topaz]

i need longer lore videos

[blazing lotus]

CNS is anti ospuze then, considering we're trapped in the finals so ospuze can liquidize us in the meat space to turn into ospuze to sell

[sinful forge]

Uh oh

That doesn't sound good guys. I wanna drink ospuze not be ospuze

[chilly roost]

This is me just fantasizing, but when June said "it can take us anywhere" at the end of the last lore video, wouldn't it be cool if one of the maps was set in Speranza from Arc Raiders. How exciting would that be for a crossover/hype build?

[slender pollen]

ARC-itect Raiders?

[north temple]

The Architect could be a ref to The Matrix Architect https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/matrix/images/b/b5/1.gif/revision/latest?cb=20091017235714

[tropic flame]

i think ospuze is gamer girl bath water

[verbal pagoda]

reposting this (text from the S2 Trailer)

[verbal pagoda]

from around 0:10 if anyone else wants to look

[blazing lotus]

what if this is all a way to reset ranked in a lore logical way

[quick hedge]

6 DAYS PEFT UNTIL THE NEW SEASON!!!

HUZZAH‼️‼️

[hallow sentinel]

theres a "bossbattle" line in there, but it cant happen due to corrupted ai stuff

going to make it more clear as best as i can

[marsh inlet]

pve the finals 👀

[civic sail]

That dolphin charm is the biggest mystery right now. 😭

[rigid wing]

Hello everyone just thought if something that I could share I have thought that CNS are the initials of 3 people if you think about it the last character in the battle pass is named Ariad but there is no A in CNS I have thought that maybe Scotty has something to do with it because in aome trailers and descriptions of cosmetics there's quotes from him that sound like he was part or knows something more about CNS and that's all I have

[hallow sentinel]

this is how far i am rn

[rigid wing]

That's actually pretty nice

[hallow sentinel]

give me corrections if you want

[rigid wing]

I think the first sentence is something that starts with W maybe is just welcome or something similar

[hallow sentinel]

too garbled to guess

[rigid wing]

And where you put final boss

I think is saying final boss not regulating

[broken sparrow]

Says system before —init and error

[rigid wing]

Or maybe even responding

Overall is a very good and detailed unscramble

But I feel like CNS is more likely to affect The finals more and more

I mean they technically did Change the game but there's also hints that say that they are a group

I mean they literally say "we are CNS" and I feel like Ariad is just kinda like part of the group but not a founder

But the most common term for CNS is Central Nervous System

And I think

I'm not to sure but I think there hidden clues in the SyS map

[blazing lotus]

the first one def says failed to create _____

what are we creating 🤔

[rigid wing]

Technically we are trying to know what or who is CNS

[blazing lotus]

I stand by CNS's relation to central nervous system meaning they're trying to give the AI a body in the meatspace

[hallow sentinel]

got more done

[rigid wing]

True but they also have been saying they will change the game

[rigid wing]

Nice

[blazing lotus]

west system(?) 2nd line

looks like west for sure tho idk

[hallow sentinel]

seems right, will put down

[blazing lotus]

I'd assume it's west_system

[hallow sentinel]

got it down

[rigid wing]

I think I discovered something new

[hallow sentinel]

whats that?

[rigid wing]

While playing a match if you go close to one of the CNS glitches there's sound of someone talking

[blazing lotus]

it's there on the line below too if you didn't notice that either

[rigid wing]

I'll try to send a clip of it

Alright

It's hard to hear but it's there

Hope you guys don't mind if DM the clip of it to you

[blazing lotus]

[rigid wing]

Alright is loading

[blazing lotus]

no idea where to find anything on mobile so when you do send it give me like 20, also I'm sure we could do sum about the audio to focus it up on the talking

[hallow sentinel]

heres more, nearly done till it gets cut off

apparently its tried 2 times to load this "finalboss" thing

[blazing lotus]

doing this without glasses makes it even worse, I'm gonna work on the audio instead

[rigid wing]

Hey liquid I sent you the clip also I think I can hear Scotty and june

Would you like to help T342?

[blazing lotus]

my strategy of "throw it at ai to see if it picks it up" failed

[hallow sentinel]

is that a seperate company from vlope

[rigid wing]

Something to do with power shift maybe?

[hallow sentinel]

wdym with powershift?

[rigid wing]

VR platform

[blazing lotus]

I don't think it's Lee, I'm tryna pick that apart by looking through file types. Las files exist but are for something that probably won't help

[hardy berry]

its probly platform as in pc vs console

[hallow sentinel]

thanks for helping man

[rigid wing]

Could be

[hallow sentinel]

its a different kind of system

[blazing lotus]

LAS (Log ASCII Standard) files are a standardized format used in the oil and gas industry to store well log data. These files are essential for analyzing subsurface formations and guiding drilling operations.

Probably not these

[rigid wing]

Yeah but it kinda makes sense due to the whole game being a VR game

[hardy berry]

it might be the devs of the finals program in universe, while Volpe made the hardware and SDK

[iron coral]

guys nobody believes me

cns talked to me in game i swear on everything i know

[blazing lotus]

Talked to you how? wdym by that exactly

[rigid wing]

Maybe devs sent audio files?

[iron coral]

they said “HI” and then “WE ARE CNS” and then “7 DAYS” (new season drops) and then “WE WILL FREE YOU” and lastly “OPEN YOUR EYES”. It somehow didn’t pick up when i tried to record it on my PlayStation but it happened i swear

I know it’s hard to believe

[blazing lotus]

I don't doubt it honestly, it fits with what we've been seeing in terms of lore and some of my theories

[iron coral]

that’s exactly what im saying

[rigid wing]

I do find it hard to believe but some of the words are in trailers

[iron coral]

it was during game and in the lobby too randomly

[blazing lotus]

In the lobby is interesting, did you click anything?

[iron coral]

nope, didn’t even queue

[rigid wing]

I'm in the lobby right now I just hear the theme songs

[iron coral]

yeah i was playing with my cousin and he said he didn’t hear it either. maybe im just the lore keeper then

[blazing lotus]

keep it on in the background, maybe try clicking around a bit. Who knows

[iron coral]

literally nobody has gotten this but me

[rigid wing]

I'll try but I have drift

Wait what where you playing on snappy?

[iron coral]

ps5

[rigid wing]

So I should hear something too if what you say is true

When was this exactly

[blazing lotus]

@hallow sentinel I've been looking through file types and if it starts with L .las appears to be the best matching, but in terms of description it's weird

[hallow sentinel]

ok, will change all to that. thanks for the help!

[rigid wing]

Nothing that I click seems to work not even the Konami code

[blazing lotus]

I don't know if it's right at all t342 but it's visually the closest I'm finding rn

[hallow sentinel]

done the unscrambleing

still WIP tho

[rigid wing]

Not bad

Not even the background of the battle pass helps

Wait I think I found something

[hallow sentinel]

whats that

[rigid wing]

It's in the background of one of the tiers In the battle pass

[blazing lotus]

@hallow sentinel

.lse might fit better and imo still fits the visuals
LSE files, often associated with Microsoft SQL Server, are Log Sequence Number files. They store a record of every data modification operation performed in a database. These files are crucial for maintaining data integrity, supporting disaster recovery, and ensuring transactional consistency within the database.

the more I read the more confident I am it's .lse

also @rigid wing DM a picture?

[hallow sentinel]

AND there are microsoft error codes here!

[rigid wing]

Microsoft?

[blazing lotus]

and data integrity failure makes sense with TA

[hallow sentinel]

yes

[blazing lotus]

def .lse

[rigid wing]

Hey @hallow sentinel do you think you could send a image to the chat I don't know how to

[hallow sentinel]

corrupting the game so it CANT load this boss
?

[blazing lotus]

chat gpt saving the day with the dumbed down explanation

[hallow sentinel]

sure

[rigid wing]

Alright is sent

The background it looks like some plans for The finals

Or like
strategy making

[blazing lotus]

failure of an LSE file could result in data loss or corruption, leading to issues such as save file corruption, lost progress, or even game crashes.

I'm pretty sure something got sent earlier talking about how contestants data was failing to be retrieved, ima try to find that

[hallow sentinel]

@rigid wing , you do know that was a file with no file extention, right?

[rigid wing]

I'll try to send it again might of down something wrong

[hallow sentinel]

ok

[rigid wing]

The background is what interesting

Some sort of plan maybe

[blazing lotus]

@hallow sentinel so... we might have been wasting our time

[hallow sentinel]

i think thats just a normal gameboard,

[hallow sentinel]

really?

[rigid wing]

Maybe you are right

[blazing lotus]

😔

[blazing lotus]

looks like a "the finals" themed board game (confirmed?) but I can see where you're coming from, there's a possibility.

[rigid wing]

Like the board it self it's interesting but the hand to the side is also an intriguing factor for me

Because it doesn't really seem to match any of the hands in the contestants

It may sound weird that I'm trying to compare the actual characters but I don't really see much of a similar trait

[blazing lotus]

@rigid wing that says board game

[hallow sentinel]

gtg my guys, see yall soon!

[rigid wing]

See ya

[blazing lotus]

Farewell

[rigid wing]

Well if it helps

I found out that maybe some of the cosmetics are made inside the simulation

[blazing lotus]

wdym

[rigid wing]

Look

[hardy lotus]

Crash Details :
Memory?/Recovery? Access Violation

[hardy lotus]

Error. Failed to create SkillTable. Unknown table format.

Set platform omniSoftware VR System

[hardy lotus]

The DnD setting can be linked to the Quests, Final Boss and Nightmare difficulty stuff

[hardy lotus]

There's written "cathedral" behind the two toys in the middle

[rancid fable]

It says “the finals board game”

[gusty nimbus]

I feel like the update video is suggesting something between vaiiya and holtow

[hardy lotus]

I cant post pictures yet but at aprox the 8th second of the trailer there is written "player_stats --init --name "Macimus"(???) --level ?? --health ?? --energy ??"

I couldnt read the name properly but a name is always good for lore

[rigid wing]

Maybe a weird idea but have any of you thought of the idea that the sponsors have something to do with all of what's happening

[edgy prawn]

Error: Failed to create SkillTable. Unknown table format.
TheFinal.glib quest_system --init --quest_file quests.dat
Initializing quest system...
Error: quests.dat not found. Critical data missing.
TheFinal.glib create.boss.battle --boss "FinalBoss" --difficulty "nightmare"
Compiling FinalBoss in Nightmare difficulty...
Error: FinalBoss not responding. All systems failure.
TheFinal.glib log_error --file erorrs.log --access "Failed to initialize FinalBoss compiller. Missing required assets.
Error: Unable to log error. File system corruption detected.
Error: TheFinals.glib save_file --file savefile.ct.sav
Initializing quest[___]
[___]
TheFinal.glib ___.boss.battle --boss "FinalBoss --difficult [___]
Server: Demisphare VR System
Crash Report: Error Code 0x0E___EEF
set Platform: Demisphare VR System

------- Server Crash Report -------
Error Code: 0x0EA00EEF (binary corruption)
Crash Details:
Memory Access Violation
Stack Overflow
Kernel Panic
Hardware Exception: 0x0000[____] (Breakpoint)

| Address      : Data        |

``` imho

This does seems like a unix/linux system

[young latch]

not systematically, in a Linux user (or super user) command we would recognize it, but that's not the case... And if we had to list all the OS for which the IA wrote the code, that wouldn't get us very far in the lore...

As far as we know, the code is intended directly for the system, and the AI communicates with the system for... executing a Final boss file (?)

Or in the other case, Vaiya tries to execute it , but the AI prevents it...

[young latch]

There seems to be a problem with the execution file 🤔

Errors suggest severe corruption of the software or the hardware on which it runs

or maybe it's just simple as that... Incompetent Vaiya employees created code that didn't work ☝️ 🤓

[hallow sentinel]

Wow! That is really good (I’d prob never be able to make that)

[trail wren]

sharing this yet again #📕┇lore message

[hallow sentinel]

its kinda seeming that the hardware/storage system for THE FINALS is breaking, slowly but surely

so maybe that a reason that there are not very many maps anymore? (considering there was a past before the irl game)

and since it said that all systems failed when it was trying to make the boss, maybe all the other prossessing units in THE FINALS may have failed

also, isnt the memory access violation due to CNS and the TA gamemode?

[sly wing]

the icon of holtow fine print bundle, it has to say something

in the shop it looks like a contract or document

[twilit thicket]

If Scotty competed in THE FINALS before we got the game, why and how is it just in season one? If he was playing in it wouldn’t that have been a while ago? See what I mean?

[trail wren]

we’ve discussed this before, but it’d be very similar to how there were Thunderdome Games before the Apex Games in Apex Legends

there could’ve been a similar version of the game before the AI was created. one where Scotty (and other characters like Odilia) could’ve participated in

[young latch]

It describes a series of critical errors related to data and system file corruption.

• Source code compilation fails due to detected corruption,
• VR system initialization encounters compatibility problems with the graphics driver,
• data formats are inconsistent,
• player data is corrupted,
• table creation fails due to unknown formats,
• the quest file cannot be found,
• the boss AI is unresponsive,
• the system fails to log errors due to file system corruption, and backup writing fails, compromising data integrity.

The server displays a crash report indicating memory access violations, stack overflows, kernel panic and hardware exceptions, suggesting severe corruption of data and system files as well as potential hardware problems.

In short, the system is in a critical state requiring repair or complete reinstallation, as well as a thorough hardware check.
So all of this... It cause of CNS and is that for they make the system shuting down ?

[prime cave]

Chances a thing like in ready player two happens with anorak but with the AI

[young latch]

ready player two ?... Did i missed something ?

[prime cave]

It's the sequel it isn't great but it's there

[young latch]

wut ? Ready player two... Can't see what is it tho

[prime cave]

The sequel to the book ready player 1

[young latch]

ooh man, I thought you were talking about the game

[trail wren]

basically, just resharing since we discussed it back in the beginning of the season but we now have the AI context

[young latch]

i didn't follow entirely, what's the context behind this ?

[storm sedge]

new sponsor?!

[trail wren]

the source code shown appeared in the S2 reveal trailer. it’s when CNS hacked the game show, but back then we didn’t know that the source code was actually the AI’s one. now that we know, we can draw different theories about it and those events

[twilit thicket]

What AI??

[trail wren]

THE FINALS is a program, an AI. you can check the latest lore vignette for context

[prime cave]

The board game stuff just like it's a finals themed dnd

That's why the charm is a d20

Has anybody thought about the fact there might be a Mum a Nama Tama

[long urchin]

Scotty and June never acknowledge what season they’re in in the Finals universe, for us it’s season 1 but in the game universe it might be season 50 or sum. (Except for the highlight videos maybe)

[ember briar]

We now know that VAIIYA CEO's name is Sal Scoria

[hallow sentinel]

We’ve known that for a long time

[kind saddle]

imagine CNS made an evil Scotty who hates Ospuze

[chrome summit]

i love ospuze, ospuze my beloved

[hallow sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/day-6-without-ospuze-the-finals-ospuze-breaking-bad-gif-14841060380071360567

[ember briar]

Ah lol

[ember briar]

Or would that be a good Scotty…

[formal hazel]

@winged condor

[winged condor]

hm

[quick hedge]

6 DAYS UNTIL THE NEW SEASON ‼️‼️

HUZZAH ‼️‼️🥳

[forest adder]

I can’t wait for season three, I have a feeling it will be a turning point for the finals as a whole!

[void panther]

Does anyone have a lore overview so far I haven’t payed much attention to anything but the circuits lately and I’m trying to catch up before season 3

[sage ice]

Game is Ai, people hack game, game need to be unhacked, security try to stop hackers, need reset Ai to get rid of hackers. Bout sums it up.

[forest adder]

That was actually a very good summary

[rancid aurora]

Agreed

[timid island]

Exactly what i was looking for

[clear vector]

Hmm I wonder what the theme will be for S3

[nova breach]

Summer vibes hopefully

[gentle bronze]

anyone else hoping S3 map won’t be hacked?

[marsh inlet]

it won't be

[sacred latch]

it might be..

[timid star]

Nah its 99% Japan map

[clear vector]

Nah this season is CNS, next one can't be

[plush flint]

japanese themed

[gusty nimbus]

Summer game fest starts tomorrow correct? You think they'll drop a lore video or season 3 trailer? Surprised to only see one lore video so far

[nova breach]

How do u know

[plush flint]

POV: in the lore chat without knowing the last lore video

[nova breach]

When did they release it?? And I mean the lore chat is also to get updates ig so here I am

[radiant compass]

Is Japan considered summer vibes

[radiant compass]

It’s rumored to be Japan a lot of juicy bits pointing us towards that direction for S3, unless embark is completely bamboozling everyone.

[old crown]

I heard it was going to be dinosaur themed

[clear vector]

I mean it is really beautiful during the summer

[verbal pagoda]

there have been a few different teasers, RockhoundBlack has videos that explain some of it https://youtube.com/watch?v=ffw5uiNjDts

[nova breach]

Dunno tbh hotgirlsummer usually is in Greece or something

[nova breach]

Wonder why Japan as Korea is like the talk of Asia for these past years

[autumn kraken]

do tell.... 👀

[hexed gull]

Pic or it never happened

[spark stream]

Do we need to be on the sunset version of sys to get the charm?

[slender gulch]

#1243224234675802135

[fickle crag]

👀

[twilit thicket]

Could CNS be controlling the contestants? Spinal cord connects to limbs and legs and such, and brain controls obv. Just thought

[radiant compass]

📠 no printer

[radiant compass]

White girl summer map for S3 is wild 🤣

[nova breach]

Devs make it happen!! Also a barbie-vibe skin

[radiant compass]

💀

I’m weak

[young latch]

did you ever notice this before ?

cool thing tho

[nova breach]

What does the qr say

[young latch]

it's just a link for the official site of the finals

[nova breach]

Ahh ok

[iron trail]

Current CL is 461710. This picture looks pretty old now.

[young latch]

noo i took it just now

[hallow sentinel]

anything else we onto? do we actually know what that unknown vr platform really is?

[slender gulch]

https://youtu.be/b1y-c2FwV-g?feature=shared

[trail wren]

[hallow sentinel]

watching it right now! and this so far, is REALLY GOOD! and there are a lot of cool parts,

[keen idol]

any more clues towards the dolphin charms ee

[hallow sentinel]

no, also this is lore chat

[shell owl]

That video was a work of art, such a high quality piece of work

[glass compass]

was playing on seoul(ranked tourney, final round, nighttime) and saw in a moniter screen in the distant outside the map that showed a singular person watching, kinda looked like a zoom call in dark room. idk if it has lore implications and i was unable to get a picture, but has anyone else seen it before? just curious

[sinful forge]

It's the guy from the season trailer

[worldly holly]

Yeah sounds like the CNS member on the billboards

[young latch]

@trail wrenbro just saw your videos, awesome ! The editing, thumbnails, stories. Everything was, good, feels good to watch

[young latch]

didn't think that Embark make such effort for their F2P game, pay respect for the team and said with love from CNS

[dawn scarab]

spear's videos are fantastic. perfection every time

[trail wren]

TY

[quasi hearth]

Hello guys,
Is it possible now to unlock easter egg hunt ?

[simple zinc]

we love embard studio unlike a certain studio that sells an average wage priced skin

[pine lake]

I wonder will CNS do something today

[young latch]

unlike a studio who made bad audio quality in their game

[velvet escarp]

CNS contained, AI activates defensive protocols.

[sinful forge]

Uh what do you mean by that

[glass compass]

Lore question? For a game that takes place in around the year 2100. Why do all the maps take place around 2010-2030? Does something happen in the future that makes the finals devs in the lore choose to ignore their current time and focus on the past?

[trail wren]

we don’t know, we’ll have to wait for the story to unravel

[glacial swan]

VAIIYA sponsors the game right as CNS takes over
CNS hides VAIIYAs importance as a sponsor through ✨drama✨
VAIIYA tries to stop CNS
CNS laughs at VAIIYA

0 people affected
game show hosts pissed off
Players fully unaffected
players get new swag

Season 2 Synopsis ^

[peak prism]

Discord logo changing lore?

[hallow sentinel]

did they just change the main pic?

to the svr? its pink and blue ish

[peak prism]

It's so subtle

[hallow sentinel]

it looks real cool

[hollow kettle]

Note that the gradient color icon mixes the colors of the second season with the first

[hallow sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/rare-rare-steak-steak-cutting-steak-gif-11709098

https://tenor.com/view/epic-beef-is-what-you-find-rucka-rucka-ali-steak-meat-juicy-gif-18187463

https://tenor.com/view/discord-embed-failure-epic-embed-fail-double-embed-fail-gif-23538127

why cant we use gifs

[young latch]

yes

@hallow sentinel

[hallow sentinel]

thats one of them i was trying to use

[hallow sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-ok-spy-ok-spy-tf2-tf2spy-spy-tf2-gif-25728918

WHAT

WHY WILL IT NOT WORK????

man W H A T?

why does it not work for me????

am i banned of gifs???

[young latch]

hey, from the highlights, the voice of Scotty is higher pitch isn't ?

[stuck belfry]

please keep this channel lore related

[hallow sentinel]

ok

[young latch]

alright, i'm stoping 😭 🤣

[candid crown]

but it can take us anywhere

[blazing lotus]

Idk if this is lore related or what, but the contract akm skin doesn't load when you go in practice. Can someone test this? I'm curious if it's the skin in general or charm/sticker combo too

[young latch]

yeah it doesn't work in practice range

[blazing lotus]

so that's just normal? why does it work if you change guns and swap back in the contestant change thing 🤔

[young latch]

might be a bug or something

[blazing lotus]

Really strange

[sly wing]

bugs are canon! cns hacked it

[clear vector]

Discord server picture changes

This must be a sign!

[left rock]

i bet it signals the rising sun!

[clear vector]

This makes sense because the picture was purple before and now it's still purple but with orange at the bottom which could mean sunrise which means land of the rising sun which means Japan

[left rock]

yes, exactly

[young latch]

RISING Sun.. Japan !

[faint ginkgo]

didnt vaiiya stop cns, if you read the desc of the new sweater by vaiiya

[gentle bronze]

What’s the description

[velvet escarp]

Japan!

[fossil shadow]

Dissun spotted in the S3 Trailer

Possibly first look into the meatspace?

[hallow sentinel]

yall got the new video?

https://youtu.be/OmHm7Q3VFMU

not trying to post anything for my attention, but here it is

[faint ginkgo]

"thanks to VAIIYA CEO Sal Scoria, THE FINALS will continue to operate no matter what cns tries."

[south surge]

Wonder what Dissun does

[hallow sentinel]

aaaand i didnt realise that they have a dedicated video

[faint ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kWYWa3Jv2Qoffical yt vid

[hallow sentinel]

lol womp on my part

[young latch]

what we got lore guys

[paper chasm]

finally saying goodbye to the CNS hackers!

[vocal fable]

just saw this

new season three livestream in 3 days

possible ruby skin in plain sight

[hallow sentinel]

they may return tho.... next season....

wait, does that also mean that the sys$horizon map is going away?????

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[dark niche]

cap

[paper chasm]

Yeah they wiped it all

[hallow sentinel]

noooooo 😭

[paper chasm]

All the viruses and bugs that CNS spread

[paper chasm]

Lore wise they did but who knows maybe CNS has backup plan

[gentle bronze]

so like, did CNS even really do anything? their involvement obv showed us the ai (whatever that is) but did they really accomplish anything?

[paper chasm]

They essentially tried to take down finals

They failed drastically

[gentle bronze]

really hoping they keep the CNS map and gear and explain it as the hosts/sponsors liking the stuff enough to make it official

[keen idol]

Maybe sys horizon would be restored or something without all the cns glitches and that

[paper chasm]

Im sure they’ll keep the map but use it differently

Or like TJaro said it might be restored

[keen idol]

ye

[gentle bronze]

yeah i knew that much, was just wondering if they did accomplish anything lol. fair enough

[paper chasm]

But we know they restarted the AI so it’s all going to be changed

[keen idol]

well technically sys horizon WAS created by cns so you could be right about it going away

[gentle bronze]

i just hope portal stays </3

[paper chasm]

Vaiiya tried tried everything didn’t succeed then lastly had to do something that should never been an option and that’s to restart the whole system

[gentle bronze]

i’m sure they won’t remove the map entirely, i can’t see embark wanting to keep 5 maps total

[hallow sentinel]

found this frame in the video

6 sec mark

[paper chasm]

What are we looking at.

[hallow sentinel]

idk

[keen idol]

kinda off topic but dont you guys think that the dolphin charm ee might not be accessible anymore?

[gentle bronze]

id assume they wouldn’t remove a charm no one even has yet, not until season 3 drops anyway

[gentle bronze]

EK0IMO? is that what that says?

[hallow sentinel]

also this odd frame too

[paper chasm]

Oh that’s so weird that is that?

[gentle bronze]

[paper chasm]

[gentle bronze]

[wide goblet]

why do I have a feeling that because "the show must go on and we cannot let them Know that the CNS thing was not planned" they just keep with it

the map I mean

[paper chasm]

Bare in mind that CNS tried to steal the show entirely and im sure vaiiya wouldn’t have restarted the whole Ai just for that reason

[wide goblet]

but the viewers do not know that do they

[paper chasm]

I’m hoping the map is done and remade

[gentle bronze]

do we have any idea what the ai even is or does at this point? other than being essential to the game

[shut notch]

Cant read

[paper chasm]

I can read that

[paper chasm]

I’m sure they do lol

[hallow sentinel]

its having a LOT more problems, main points are its having issues with graphics and corruption again

[paper chasm]

It says Nama Tama loves you

[wide goblet]

the second last Line "the Finals VR v2.1

[shut notch]

The finals vr v2.1

[hallow sentinel]

wait, im seeing some frames of the trailer from TA

[fossil shadow]

It's worth mentioning official sponsors for S3 will be Dissun/Enomo(?)

[shut notch]

https://tenor.com/view/lore-gif-13932887907872853525

[hallow sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

double played lol

[shut notch]

VR ??

[hallow sentinel]

thats it resseting the vr mainframe

[keen idol]

yeah its a virtual game show

[shut notch]

i know it is

[keen idol]

yeah this just shows and proves that the program is resetting

[shut notch]

Yes

[hallow sentinel]

sponsor pic seen

[shut notch]

Noimo

[keen idol]

i think its "enomi"

enomo maybe

[shut notch]

possible

[hallow sentinel]

more errors

[zenith kettle]

en0imo imo

[shadow rock]

That middle o looks more like a 0

[fossil shadow]

Looks like ENOMO #📕┇lore message

[shut notch]

G

[fossil shadow]

two (official?) S3 sponsors

[shadow rock]

EN0MO

[keen idol]

Dissun was already leaked earlier on by rob

[hallow sentinel]

we need to figure this out

[shut notch]

Yes

[paper chasm]

NAMA

[hallow sentinel]

SUS

[shut notch]

No

[shadow rock]

TAMA

[paper chasm]

Yes

[shut notch]

Ok