👂┇game-feedback

[night dune]

Thank you Embark devs for fixing the voice chat bug introduced with 2.5.0 🙏

[torpid helm]

I wish it were a dagger skin

[dusk forge]

ranked utter shit, matchmaking ranked utter shit...take your time

[pearl pelican]

make a all medium casual/ranked mode. 90% of people that download this game dont want to be killed by a heavy, or invisible mfs with stun guns. Sorry to break it to you.

[elder basin]

Where are the flamethrower skins?!!?!? How about a spraypaint can and a lighter!?

[smoky gust]

sneaking up on a light is one of the main counters people mention when talking about the sniper rifle
if they now could also get an early warning they would just be even harder to kill, with them being the fastest class with lots of evasion tools and all that

i think it works fine on heavy and fits their play-style, the reason nobody uses it is because its competing with dome and rpg, and is in need of a buff

[lilac grail]

Getting a hit with sledgehammer should cause a crippling/wounding effect that slows players. Literally every contestant can simply S key out of range of you even if you get an opening hit. Do not get me started on getting stunned gunned by a light. You are literally just dead in that scenario. Zero counterplay options. You can't even break the floor under you to escape because you can't croutch while stunned.

[willow leaf]

Mediums the problem with the game not the solution. I agree that invis and stun and mesh shield are annoying though. But if the game was just mediums it would be just a generic fps. The game thrives with its cool fast paced movement and destructible environment neither of which medium focuses on.

[elfin swallow]

Light buffs I think could be interesting

Movement
-buff sliding
-buff ads strafe speed
-remove diminished jump height after jumping multiple times in a row

I want to be able to use my movement to outplay my opponents, these changes would make it easier to do that.

Health
-less delay to start regenerating health

One of the main complaints about having a light on your team is that they aren’t around during team fights. Usually because they get hit once and have to go hide to heal up. A lower delay makes them be able to fulfill that flanking role without leaving teammates behind as much

Body shot damage
-increase bodyshot damage on light weapons or lower it coming from medium/heavy

A huge issue for light is that heavy and medium don’t really need to aim for the lights head to get competitive ttks. Making their weapons super forgiving, while light needs to put more effort into being on target. So I think it should be a little harder for medium/heavy to kill lights without headshots or a little easier for light.

[tribal shard]

Ok the game definitely needs a fix in some areas:

• AKs deal a ridiculous amount of damage they pretty much oneshot everyone including heavies.
• Regen time is way too long, i've almost got the time to travel through the entire map before finally being full-life again
• The respawn position algorithm definitely needs to be redone, in some areas like SYS$HORIZON, the game will decide to make you spawn at the opposite of the map, making the game as a big walking simulator.
• Many projectile-based weapons have a really glitched out hitbox, this especially shows on the throwing knives where no joke, 80% of my hits just go directly through the person, not a miss or anything just you throw them and they go through the players body.
• The fire and gas hitboxes also need a fix since day one
• With the nerf on defibs since the start of the season, they shouldn't put lights at 75hp, they get literally one-shot by any attack in the game.
• The mass shouldn't be a one-tap kill-them-all weapon, though to balance it out, it should hit slightly faster.
• Fix the payload indicator being glitched out and not displayed randomly even though you're far from it and have no direct view
• Matchmaking is really problematic, the game starts to take 10 minutes to get you into a game, and if a player leaves in-game, they won't get replaced for the entire half of the game.
• A lot of the servers become really laggy now, at least for EU ones.
• The in-game performance also degrades a lot on each update, this is worrying for the future of the game.
• The anti-air thingy is really OP, makes most of the items in the game entirely useless, not to mention it tends to overshoot and kill grenades and such outside of its area. It needs either a nerf or a full rework.

[woeful arch]

Did I just hear the voiceline "it's like stealing candy from a baby?" LMAO.

[glass fjord]

Being able to try out skins that are in the store in the practice range would probably increase sales substantially, and produce more social media by creators. Would love to be able to test stuff out to see if there's animations or sounds, etc...

[dull fulcrum]

Ban Snipers and grapling hooks from ranked matches, thx too many brain deads playing ti in ranked, light players don t have a place in ranked matches.

[wide falcon]

True, and force voice enable on rankeds, if you're man enought to throw games, youre man enought to be put down 🙂

[quasi fiber]

Ranked is busted, I don't think I can keep playing against sweats all day long it's not rewarding. purple team was stacked Dimond and red was stacked platinum. We are bronze gold and unranked... How is that remotely balanced.

[river plover]

Yea bro I hate people that use The Mass, I can just be running around then someone summons The Mass on top of me and I just get killed by eldritch beings.
Nerf The Mass!

[cyan crane]

The game is demanding so much more cpu power than before and it's making my experience horrible as my frames are like half of what it used to be

[small anchor]

okay guys hear me out the light stun gun should have 4 charges instead of 3 so you can stun an entire team and if you miss one you can still have another chance and then they should buff cloaking to 2 minutes and you should be able to shoot well cloaked 😈

[misty jasper]

yea this makes sense.. on games like overwatch we should have an all mercy mode so no one dies to any other character/class

I don’t play overwatch, but it seems like you take a core part of the game away if you make a mode specifically to take out everything you find annoying

[pearl pelican]

ey guess what, overwatch is completely something else. only mf with a assualt rifle in overwatch is soldier.

[lucid crane]

Together with @vagrant shard we came up with an idea to balance the healing beam:

• it should start healing at a speed of 25hp/s increasing to 50hp/s in 3 seconds,
• the given bonus should accrue only when the person does not have full HP and should reset when the person already has full health.

I hope you will take a look at this and, if possible, consider adding this or similar mechanics to the game.
Thank you for your attention and see you in The Finals !

[elder basin]

Light stuns should keep the weapon you have out. It's dumb that you have an RPG out. You get stunned and iAFTER you're stunned, you somehow pull back out your primary weapon? A stun shouldn't make you switch if you can't move

[unique rune]

Exactly what I've also been complaining about

And also they should nerf the sniper or add another one because 3 shots with a sniper just isn't it

[untold ore]

anyone have low gpu usage? my cpu is around 60% and my gpu doesnt go more than 70%

[ivory isle]

Buff goo gun

[glossy panther]

as a healer, I think that's fair
Great idea!

[ornate fiber]

what is this mess with waiting for others to finish in ranked and u stuck in the damn screen for like 10mins and u only can leave with penalty? very meh

[inner acorn]

Riot shield needs a non-dmg buff. Melee(specially Swords) and Pyro grenades are HARD counters for the riot shield.

[dry raft]

Light LH1 need a mini buff 🙂

[unreal fossil]

I very much agree with you guys suggesting that Lights should at least get a HP recovery speed bonus compared to the other two classes. Assuming Lights remain at 150 hp, that's a type of change that would help them be more useful to the team, as they would not need to hide so often/long after getting hit, but would still get beamed in head-on fight or if they get cornered.

I also agree that the healing beam needs a rework. I value teamwork and gadgets that favor it, healing beam is one of them. But it can carry a Heavy team mate through a fight even though enemies are mag dumping on him, while you stay well hidden 10m away behind cover, on another floor, or protected by a Heavy mesh shield. The range and efficiency are a bit too hight and I think that's unfair and not beneficial to the gameplay. Because of its symbiosis with the Heavy mesh shield, well coordinated teams can stay where they are forever and sustain fire that would have either killed them or forced them to back up otherwise. I'd much prefer the heal beam to not be able to heal (or not heal as much) when taking damage, so that teams are forced to back up under heavy accurate fire, giving enemies more opportunities to push/make a move. I think this would also help Lights a bit against stacked healers.

[lucid crane]

[main knot]

Really...... How can rank work like this

[crude brook]

adding to this, it should overheat accordingly; heating at half the rate when healing at 25hp/s and the full overheat rate at 50hp/s

[timber hazel]

Don’t you guy already got the cheese cutter and Pencil. Those two are also pretty cool

[fierce dune]

Cards kinda like overwatch 1 showing impressive stats would be cool, could be fun showing the whole game you grappled 8km or other random stats like damage blocked ect

[violet wing]

I would like more as well

[subtle bolt]

Nerf the flamethrower - it is WAAAAAY overpowered

[turbid cave]

85dps + fire damage

[dry raft]

I haven't seen any cheater today, what happened ?

[upper citrus]

tell me you dont understand balancing without telling me. every primary weapon is meant to have strengths and weaknesses. the fcar is meant to have high stats and be balanced out by its low ammo count, but ammo count is a terrible weakness in a team shooter. The gun ends up dominating and invalidating all the other actually balanced weapons on the medium class. A fire rate nerf to the fcar would do wonders for the balance of the game as a whole. The lewis gun and LH1 have the same issue of having 0 relevant weaknesses and completely overshadowing the other weapons on the class.

but oh man the strong weapons are sooooo fun! nerfing them so that people have more options on what to actually play with would be sooooooooo boring :((((((

[vocal rampart]

See #patch-notes. I've still seeing a couple today though.

[void horizon]

Goofiest take

[eager sierra]

Your balancing team is horrible! You nerfed the dwarves and now the game is only based on mediums with sniper turrets, ridiculous. You don't understand anything about balancing and the seesaw effect. thus leaving the game toxic, unplayable and killing the game more and more!

[stark maple]

I guess Power Shift is a dead mode now since after 3 matches NOBODY played heavy and it ended with the platform in the middle. Kinda sad when everyone is a light just sniping each other and nobody played objective.

[cosmic island]

Random quickplay would be interesting and could reduce time for finding a match

[ancient jacinth]

i just joined a match against literally 12 turrets, 6 machine guns and 6 of those little ones, nobody killed anyone, just turrets, congratulations dev.

[smoky gust]

everything should have a weakness
but maybe in this case we could make it lack strengths the others have?

we could drastically decrease akm's bloom while not ads-ing
it could be used like an smg, making very good in close-range hipfire fights with lots of strafing

meanwhile the famas should have slower but more damaging bursts
that way you can poke quickly poke out of cover and retreat back (unlike currently, where there are too many fast bursts, making it practically indifferent from the others)

[stray basalt]

A wise person said that gamers know how to point out problems but are not the best at fixing them. We can make valid feedback all day long but ultimately we’ll just have to trust the devs to make the necessary changes they see fit for the game

[modern wedge]

go play cod lmao

[terse lark]

idea for cloak rework:
decrease cloak activation cost to 1s and make cloak run out exponentially faster the longer you have it active. like if you are cloaked for longer than 4s your cloak resource drains something like 1.5x faster and after like 6s it drains the cloak resource 2.0x faster.
with a change like this a light could only stay cloaked for a max of 8s (this is the same amount of time as the current cloaking device without interruption).
the idea is to increase the skill floor to use cloak effectively. it punishes players for staying cloaked too long and rewards players for using cloak more sparingly, if you only stay cloaked for 4s at a time you can get an extra second out of your cloak. I feel the lower activation cost would make using cloak less annoying especially in the middle of fights, but still be more balanced and less annoying to play against compared to pre 2.5 cloak.

[small token]

real. but a class locked game mode would be fun. randomly selected class at start

[mellow marten]

Just played a game of ranked but started with only 1 team mate, after getting destroyed (obviously) the finals still gave me negative points. Why should I be loosing points for starting with a major disadvantage. When I played apex legends they would just give you RP back if you did bad

[odd atlas]

In the final round of tournaments, if a team is wiped and the winning cashout will finish before they respawn + steal duration, I think it might be good if the match would end immediately.

Also in tournaments, if a non-queued teammate leaves or is not present, the penalty should be adjusted for losses. Perhaps this is already done, but it's hard to tell with the opaque rank adjustments.

[violet wing]

💯 and I kinda get the impression the devs have something serious on the stove for next week, which is the reason why we didn't get much this week. They don't seem to be the kind to rush things without thinking it over.

[shadow stirrup]

at this point just make cheating allowed. might as well be

[thorn kelp]

Goodbye sir

[quick coyote]

add meat gun

[night glen]

I see the light's dash-hit-dash-hit-dash-hit has not been nerfed at all. Good job on the non-helpful update devs

[stark maple]

While youre at it, let us increase booba size

[vale acorn]

make it a slider complete with negative values

[wise kindle]

You guys.. Dear Embark. Y'all really need to fixe you ranked play. I went to ROUND 3, And went down 2 tiks.... Is makes no sense. You had no reason to take out The FP system. You really need to take good care of this game, otherwise it will end up dying, and we dont want that. Ranked play makes no sense at all for real.

[shy token]

Add the ability to buy individual items from store packs (by @shy token and @radiant imp)

What we propose is that the option to buy individual items is made available to not only increase sales of cosmetics but also satisfaction with customisation within and with the game itself.

You could still make it viable by using a method of (i.e pack multibucks cost ÷ items in bundle = individual price) this would allow a lot of people to pick and choose what they want to customise their character with, in a game with as much customsation as this already has, it just makes sense.

It would also give you a metric on what items are most popular and which aren't and invest more time and energy into making similar items perhaps to maximise capital.```

[small token]

will never happen. theyve already put recolors in the store so that shows the direction itll be.

[orchid monolith]

my rank will goes down even if a teammate is missing, better to have a protection for that

[smoky gust]

i like that the update will be delayed a bit
make sure you have as much time as you need to make it high quality

(may also be better for players, since a few big updates are more worth checking out than frequent small ones)

[violet solstice]

REVERT CLOAK BACK TO WHAT IT WAS!!!!! I always hold out hope that the Devs will recognize that they made an error Nerfing Lights cloak & will reverse the nerf. I keep following this thread & find it hilarious that even after the devs nerfed lights cloak the whiners are still whining about Lights & now want the Dash nerfed as well lmfao. As if Light class wasnt already the weakest & easiest to kill class in the game. The Devs made an error listening to all the Whiner M & H's complaining about being killed by a light with cloak simply because they found themselves running around by themselves, isolated from their team & a light got the drop on them & managed to kill them. When u read the comments in here of people whining about Lights its as if they dont think that a light should be able to kill anyone except another light & they get so offended if a light manages to kill them lol. After the Light cloak nerf I played for a couple more days trying to make it work but essentially cloak was made redundant with the Devs saying more nerfs were to come to cloak & other things. I stopped playing & wont come back unless they REVERT CLOAK BACK TO WHAT IT WAS but I wont hold my breath. The nerfs to Light have simply killed the class which is already made of glass & the easiest to kill before the nerfs.

[blissful bridge]

Ctrl+Z Cloak Nerf

[small socket]

Private match solo bank it should be 4 players minimum instead of 6

[frail wave]

turn the stun gun into a taser instead OR make the stungun a special

[blazing loom]

A hero sandwich skin for the sword

[small anchor]

totally agree they should definitely implement this

[odd atlas]

What it dead go boom was brought back, but without player damage, instead just doing a large amount of structural damage?

[quartz turtle]

I was wondering if there's any plans for being able to choose your own colorblind colors in the future? I find that the colors even with the color blind settings are quite difficult to differentiate sometimes.

[terse lark]

idea for cloak rework:
decrease cloak activation cost to 1s and make cloak run out exponentially faster the longer you have it active. like if you are cloaked for longer than 4s your cloak resource drains something like 1.5x faster and after like 6s it drains the cloak resource 2.0x faster.
with a change like this a light could only stay cloaked for a max of 8s (this is the same amount of time as the current cloaking device without interruption).
the idea is to increase the skill floor to use cloak effectively. it punishes players for staying cloaked too long and rewards players for using cloak more sparingly, if you only stay cloaked for 4s at a time you can get an extra second out of your cloak. I feel the lower activation cost would make using cloak less annoying especially in the middle of fights, but still be more balanced and less annoying to play against compared to pre 2.5 cloak.

[vale acorn]

I like this

[last saddle]

For the love of jesus please crack down on cheating, or at the very least, stop putting people we report in the same god damn lobbies as those who report them multiple games in a row. It's so massively frustrating reporting the same god damn players multiple games ina row for blatant botting, only to have to face them multiple times in a row because mtchmaking is atrocious.

Edit: I've had 5-6 matches in a row against cheaters. Like it's a god damn field day right now. Like flat out able to see invis or anyone else through idunno how many effects with perfect accuracy. Its so blatant.

[modern wedge]

we tried that with the heist event back in season one everyone hated that lol

but maybe if done right it could be fun yeah

@small token actually that sounds really fun lol i would totally play that

imagine light sledge or lewis

[proud eagle]

and i thought this week's update had us some improvements on their anti-cheats.¯_(ツ)_/¯

[small token]

that was set class, set gear. randomize everything. one game everyone is a light with dagger, next everyone is heavy with gl. make it even crazier and remove class limitations, so you can get gear from other classes. imagine a whole lobby full of lights with flamethrowers, heal beams, and other stuff. Yeah sweats wont like it but i bet the casuals will love the chaos

[shadow stirrup]

heal beam makes this game stale piece of garbage. back to CS:GO it is

[lone steppe]

This is a lot of yapping. Does devs really read all of this? Cause its a lot of stuff to catch up on.

[left pewter]

Sonar grenade was glitching and continuously ping enemies even after they respawn

[upper citrus]

💀

[cerulean mason]

Sounds like more whining to me. My friends that play light aren't complaining at all, and the devs have said that the way invis was being utilized in the sandbox was not what they envisioned for it. If the cloak nerf completey ruined the game for you, then (and I hate saying this term) but sounds like a skill issue. It's also been made clear that they did not intend light to be a pseudo solo class, you're not supposed to be going for isolated players, you're supposed to be hitting flanks on the enemies your squad is engaging, diverting their attention and giving your team a free wipe using your mobility to pester the enemy and keep then from resetting

[warm vigil]

Hey I'm a little surprised that the new shotgun skin doesnt have a special reload or a cool animation after shooting

[placid hazel]

fix game crashing it gets worse and worse every update

[marble herald]

please add option to attach red dots to all weapons

[terse lark]

idea for cloak rework:
decrease cloak activation cost to 1s and make cloak run out exponentially faster the longer you have it active. like if you are cloaked for longer than 4s your cloak resource drains something like 1.5x faster and after like 6s it drains the cloak resource 2.0x faster.
with a change like this a light could only stay cloaked for a max of 8s (this is the same amount of time as the current cloaking device without interruption).
the idea is to increase the skill floor to use cloak effectively. it punishes players for staying cloaked too long and rewards players for using cloak more sparingly, if you only stay cloaked for 4s at a time you can get an extra second out of your cloak. I feel the lower activation cost would make using cloak less annoying especially in the middle of fights, but still be more balanced and less annoying to play against compared to pre 2.5 cloak.

[woven hawk]

Please look into the difference in ranked performance between LLX vs HHX & MMX 💌

[somber skiff]

Actually no one is working for the cheating problem, Asian servers have more Chinese cheaters than real players 👀

[jovial needle]

my game keeps crashing on pc, im getting the MISSING_ANGELSCRIPT_CALLSTACK error

[worn sigil]

Pro Circuit Week 3 challenges:

• 15 kills/assists
• 9 kills in 1 round (the challenger circuit had 11 so I don't understand why it's less)
• eliminate 1 opponent with quick melee
• deal 1k damage from 100m
• deal 2.5k damage with gas (challenge already had in circuit)
• win 1 bank it
• win 3 rounds

Isn't this stuff supposed to get harder? Not everyone is a pro but even noobs can do this in 1 day even.

The challenges are getting repeated too. If they were standard weekly challenges like last season then fair enough but the fact they named them challenger, Pro & masters should mean they'll be different/harder?!

😭

[hybrid zinc]

I got 15 steals so, no mask for me : )

[worn spade]

MnK support on consoles plssss

[odd arch]

Definitely we need little more freedom for style things

[dense saddle]

It’s 4K damage at 100m and on most maps it’s impossible they are gonna have to change it to 50m

[night surge]

Lmao so true

[pseudo latch]

DAY… Eh….

Anyone remember how many days it’s been I lost track?

[grizzled loom]

for real its not ok

[terse lark]

idea for cloak rework:
decrease cloak activation cost to 1s and make cloak run out exponentially faster the longer you have it active. like if you are cloaked for longer than 4s your cloak resource drains something like 1.5x faster and after like 6s it drains the cloak resource 2.0x faster.

[sinful lion]

I think that the problem with cloak is less so the duration of it and more so people just disappearing mid gunfight. Maybe an inverse version of that might work though...

[quick coyote]

is anyone else not able to get into ranked matches?

[violet solstice]

Yes Yes that same old argument.."Its a Skill issue" well that works both ways mate, it could be said that those M & H who couldnt deal with a Light using Cloak is also a "Skill issue" because many M & H's have already said in this forum that it was never a problem for them. I also play H & dont have an issue with Cloak or even when I was playing as a M which I did from the start for a long time until I unlocked every single gadget & utility in every class. If u read any of my previous posts u would see that I also think Light was meant to be a flanker sewing chaos & confusion among enemy teams while also picking off stupid M & H's who found themselves out of position away from their teams out on their own where cloaks only advantage was to get the drop on them. Cloak didnt change the fact that a M or H is OP compared to light & should still win the battle 1v1. Lets not forget that as soon as the light fires a single shot they were uncloaked & a M or H should have the advantage. From what I read from the whiners in here it seems more like an Ego thing that they dont think a Light should ever be able to kill them & since Cloak nerf now they are whining about Dash & wanting that Nerfed.I mean how bad a player do u have to be to be a M or H always whining about Lights?? I think maybe it is a "Skill issue" but not on Lights part. I never had much to say in this forum because I didnt whine like others I just played & enjoyed the game & just dealt with the deficiencies that Light had compared to M & H & had fun. But then the Devs started listening to all the Whiners about Light being OP bahahahaha what a joke. They made the weakest & easiest to kill class even weaker & easier to kill & u think that is a good thing. Go bury ur ego & just accept that a Light killed u & get better, stick with ur team & dont go all Rambo off by urself. Light isnt a Problem in Ranked because teams stick together making light useless for the most part, its the casual mode that its a problem because too many randos just ignore the team & run around doing their own thing chasing kills & then wanna whine that a light found them by themselves & made mince meat out of them & punished them for not being a team player. REVERT CLOAK BACK TO WHAT IT WAS

[south gale]

God this game needs game chat fixed on Xbox ASAP!!! No coms with cross play is ridiculous

[swift lagoon]

bro every game's like this, you get 1000 bullets in your body when you're in front of the guy and the frame you're behind him nothing and the instant you get back into his sight instant one shot

[vocal rampart]

Okay the Riot Shield doesn't even block a regular quick melee? That seems wrong. 🙃

[warm mauve]

No can do. But at least there’s more stuff in the store!

[tough lance]

I have to deal 4k damage over 100m. Eliminate 5 opponents with quick melee. 1.5k gas damage, open a safe. Friend of mine got some different values too and some different contracts. Weren't they supposed to be the same for everyone?

[zinc carbon]

Actually, nuh uh, I still cant get the quick melee its too hsrd Breaks keyboard

[worn sigil]

They decided to change it up since everyone complained about the win 1 tourney challenge in circuit challenges. Don't know why it's so different.

My problem is IMO, all the challenges are too ez regardless. I understand some are time consuming which is different, but still simple.

🤔😅

[bronze atlas]

Ranks emblems need to be reworked plat n silver and gold n bronze/copper look to similar bro

[versed cloud]

Okay so disconnecting and reconnecting seems to fix the healing gun/gun not firing glitch

[restive crescent]

game crashed, got back in the game in 1 minute, got banned for 30 minutes 💪

[quick coyote]

So I'm not the only one who had this feeling

[vocal rampart]

Just switching between all your gadgets, should fix it.

[terse lark]

that doesn't make much sense. personally I thought the devs wanted cloak to be used for lights to be able to make safe rotations, flank, and to be able to reposition during fights. Them increasing the activation time feels like them making cloak less spammable and making so lights can't camp as much with cloak. my idea solves both problems while still making cloak still feel good to use

[quick coyote]

2 triple diamonds, me with a silver and a bronze on my team. this next update better be something special otherwise game is 100% dead.

[left jetty]

Ranked system makes zero sense. Why am I being put up against a full lobby of diamonds and plats? How is that fair lol.

[fresh shell]

There should be an Achievement/Trophy for killing someone with a tracking dart.

[wanton rose]

Fix the matchmaking, better anticheat, text chat 🙏

[upper citrus]

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[magic cloak]

please fix the bug where the game crashes when youre loading into the next round in a tournament

[slender cipher]

Seriously, why is 2K damage over 100 meters a thing for a weekly contract, are they trying to influence toxic gameplay environments with bad challenges? Most maps have so much debris or buildings in the way the only viable place to even do that is Power Shift. Its extremely unreasonable.

[near dew]

Pls add sens slider to mesh shield

[dense saddle]

You have luck for me it’s 4K and yeah most of the maps when you are at the edge can’t reach 100m it’s literally impossible I did only 300 damages…

[hasty trout]

Is it me or the health beam bug got worse?

[honest island]

Hello, I would like to talk about the store, the items are being sold in abusively expensive packages and they are not selling the items separately besides they are recycling the item just changing the color and selling it or putting it on the pass what a big shit weapon skins should work for all weapons, not just for one weapon, in addition to being very abusive and unsatisfactory, we will have buffs and nerfs on weapons, which makes the sale of exclusive skins for each specific weapon an abuse since they will be modified Should sell weapon wraps like in Fortnite which can be purchased with all weapons since we will have modifications to weapons Furthermore, it's unbearable, the store only sells clothing and weapons packages without selling them separately for high prices, the weapons in packages having a weapon skin for each class, ridiculous, I only play with a single class, the other classes are irrelevant to me, much less to spend on They are in abusive packages, I should have bought many items in the store but it is impossible to buy them separately I'm just saying that you're wasting money with these shitty packages because I should have already spent a lot more on the game, I didn't because I can't buy separate items It's also absurd to sell animations for weapons that only work on one weapon. I bought the new animations for the ak47 in the store. Yes, I already knew it was only for the ak47. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work on FCAR. first and last purchase In these abusive package schemes and skin and animation restrictions you are losing money and the rest of the fans you still have Think more about the customer's comfort, not your own pocket

[edgy urchin]

1000 damage at 100m is near impossible for the love of god change it or reduce the damage to below 1000

[sinful dawn]

Yeah dude, I'm a sledge main. I can't do shit to anyone from 30m away. 4000 is wild... plz change Oscar ;-;

[radiant imp]

Add the ability to buy individual items from store packs (by @shy token and @radiant imp)

What we propose is that the option to buy individual items is made available to not only increase sales of cosmetics but also satisfaction with customisation within and with the game itself.

You could still make it viable by using a method of (i.e pack multibucks cost ÷ items in bundle = individual price) this would allow a lot of people to pick and choose what they want to customise their character with, in a game with as much customsation as this already has, it just makes sense.

It would also give you a metric on what items are most popular and which aren't and invest more time and energy into making similar items perhaps to maximise capital.```

[unreal fossil]

@dense saddle Play PS, use the sniper on SysHorizon, and shoot at enemy players from spawn to spawn. I got to 1k in less than a game, landing a few headshots but mostly body shots.

@upper citrus what exactly are you complaining about ? That the iron sights LH1 competes with the scoped SR-84 ? I don't see an issue there.

I see many complaints about ranked matchmaking. I understand the frustration for solo queue players getting into teams of lower tier than they are, up against teams of higher tier.

But joining as a team of three, all with the same ranking, always got us into evenly matched tournaments so far. If we had been ranking up, we would be the challengers (lowest tier team of all) in our next tourney. If we had been ranking down, it would be the opposite. That makes perfect sense to me. It feels like people are expecting to only be matched up against teams of their tier, while it seems reasonable that the game would make you challenge higher tier teams in order to rank up.

I should add that ranking doesn't mean everything.

@honest island kind of agree with you and everyone else who wishes skins could be bought individually. I would have also bought some items seperetaly if the option was available (i.e. the dragon tatoo is very cool, but I don't really like the outfit it goes with). However there's a very good reason why the AKM animations can't be mirrored for the FCAR or FAMAS for example. They're specific to the way the guns work. They all have different key components which imply different manipulations.

[brisk orbit]

What up with my friend being GOLD but every time we okay we are in all DIAMOND lobbies? We are just getting demolished in them

[upper citrus]

The LH1 should not be the fastest killing weapon in the entire game with that range

[olive wraith]

FTLOG PLEASE FIX HEALING GUN BUG

[edgy urchin]

yeah i dont understand how the devs were like "yeah have them cross map 1000 damage"
legitimately impossible they need to play and look at 100m before they put random numbers as a challenge

[serene hearth]

how do i start a vc

[edgy pawn]

We need a third for rank 2 lights were both sliver. we just started rank.

[fresh shell]

Reduce the distance damage challenge to at least 50m. Been running sniper in powershift and still only ended up at 96/1000 over ~4 hours.
And once again, please, no mode-specific win conditions.

[terse lark]

idea for cloak rework:
decrease cloak activation cost to 1s and make cloak run out exponentially faster the longer you have it active. like if you are cloaked for longer than 4s your cloak resource drains something like 1.5x faster and after like 6s it drains the cloak resource 2.0x faster.
with a change like this a light could only stay cloaked for a max of 8s (this is the same amount of time as the current cloaking device without interruption).
the idea is to increase the skill floor to use cloak effectively. it punishes players for staying cloaked too long and rewards players for using cloak more sparingly, if you only stay cloaked for 4s at a time you can get an extra second out of your cloak. I feel the lower activation cost would make using cloak less annoying especially in the middle of fights, but still be more balanced and less annoying to play against compared to pre 2.5 cloak.

[odd arch]

Reduce distance or damage 100m challenge

[cerulean mason]

You didn't pay attention to a thing I said, and then just proceeded to cry harder. Please get a hobby, this is kind of pathetic to watch. Btw you'd probably have less problems if you played with your team more :/

[zealous cobalt]

Your anticheat is complete trash, still doesn't do anything. Played my first two games of ranked today and got hackers both times. it's an absolute joke, ranked is dead for me

[woven elk]

Please allow me to invite a friend after I joined a party. This will make sharing id's between friends much easier.

And also allow me to disable auto-aim with the hammer. ty

[cyan void]

i WISH it was 1k, I have almost 1k after sabotaging my team for an hour. It varies per person, so while my friend has 2k I have to deal FOUR THOUSAND DAMAGE at that range

[true zinc]

optimize your game so I dont have 100% CPU usage, cant walk, and cant shoot. Thank You!

[sinful dawn]

wait you got 1000? I have 4000

[hybrid zinc]

cool playing with a cheater thats been in the game for over a month. cant wait till he gets that one day ban

[opaque turret]

I also have to deal 4,000 Damage at 100+ meters. Easily the most tedious challenge I've seen yet. The distance requirement is honestly kind of absurd for some maps. Something as simple as making it 50m instead of 100m would be a huge improvement, but seriously 4,000 damage is also really annoying...

[unreal fossil]

Good luck landing those long range shots enough times to kill a moving target at that range, with the iron sights and recoil, though.

You need 2 headshots or 4 body shots to kill a Light with full health. Obviously you need more for the other classes. Realistically, it won't happen at max range, or even below. So the best TTK in the game at any range is only theoretical.

[drifting pawn]

feature idea: let flamethrower right click/secondary be a spray of gasoline to set traps

[upper citrus]

Obviously, no one is beaming from 80m away with the LH1. 40m though absolutely. Which is fine, that’s where the gun is supposed to be good at. My real issue is that it’s fire rate is so fast that it’s also incredibly good up close and doesn’t really have a weakness

[violet solstice]

You just dont like the truth because it goes against everything u whine about. I read every word of ur comment & replied to it. Go cry me a river dude & get some skill since a light with cloak obviously triggers u so much. All I mostly see in this thread is people whining Nerf this Nerf that & its never about a Nerf to the class the person play themselves "Nerf the other class" is all I mostly see. I play L & H & never asked for or whined for the Devs to Nerf anything at all for anyone. I even support other classes who get Nerfs I dont think are fair to that class or good for the game. I object to the Cloak Nerf & will continue to advocate for it to be reversed. Just stfu & go back to minecraft. When ur only reaction is to insult me then I already won....good luck muppet!

[midnight bison]

why voice chat is not working ?

[near dew]

Cool matchmaking suspension after getting knocked out of a game

[south crane]

Getting 2k damage at 100+ meters seems pretty ridiculous to me without using the sniper. I'd rather not have weekly challenges force me to play like a light rat sitting on cranes and sniping.

[shadow stirrup]

Essentially, Embark caters to the hyper competitive substrata of players and would rather keep the indoors-exclusive type of people's wait times to minimum by letting them tee off on lower ranks. Eventually this will chase of the more casual player base until there is nothing but cheaters and sweats. Lowkey looking forward to it so that another studio can come along and execute the idea of the finals better

[slow sandal]

how's it any different than having a weekly that makes you do melee, or use frag grenades or flamethrower?

[prisma sun]

remove invis

[queen silo]

^

[hollow breach]

Make melee weapons have a faster movement speed than enemies with guns. It prevents running loops with them lol

[grizzled hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-gojo-satoru-gojo-gojo-yapping-gif-16002996461043324350

[fleet sedge]

We need a way to 👍 things we like. ⭐ ideas we love. And ❌ stuff we do not like. So then the devs can see what we think needs to be add at a glance instead of having to read through all of it. Does that sound good to y'all?

[fresh shell]

Tracking dart scope should not fog up faster than the sniper...

[copper hemlock]

Powershift in Skyway is the only way to get 100m, wild

[wintry acorn]

How does the ranking system work? 👀

[cerulean mason]

lol, cry harder maybe? You literally admitted to yourself in your own words that it is a skill issue, saying the cloak nerf isn't noticeable/doesn't change anything in higher ranks. I play all classes, you keep telling me to stop complaining but I never complained once lol. So keep hitting the copium, and crying bc your crutch got nerfed. I would say stay mad but you obviously lack the capacity to hide it... are you gonna cry this hard for the stun gun too? Smh, sad as hell. This channel could be actual constructive thoughts for the devs but it's just reduced to kids like you screaming every time they nerf something. After this I won't see any of your messages so don't bother, one last thing though; play off your team as light more and maybe you'll stop throwing. Or keep crying bc you can't seem to wrap your head around the fact that you're playing the glass cannon in a team shooter, and are the most punishable class in the game. You should be able to escape, of course, but that shouldn't hinge on whether or not your opponent is a moron. It should be through proper and strategic usage of abilities and gadgets, which means those things must have limits. As someone who used cloak when running light, it really wasn't that hard to manage your cool downs at all. It was nothing compared to the evasive rush, and pretty brainless.

[reef jasper]

dont make a challenge in your worst game mode........ change it

bank it = terrible

[hybrid zinc]

holy shit ppl still talking about the cloak................... speak the cloak . get the edit. maybe just maybe its not about running around in stealth and movement/ positioning might matter more you know, in a shooter?

[woven fossil]

I think it'd be raw as hell if you could pull someone through sword with a unique animation playing if you grapple someone, and immediately m2

[terse lark]

idea for cloak rework:
decrease cloak activation cost to 1s and make cloak run out exponentially faster the longer you have it active. like if you are cloaked for longer than 4s your cloak resource drains something like 1.5x faster and after like 6s it drains the cloak resource 2.0x faster.
with a change like this a light could only stay cloaked for a max of 8s (this is the same amount of time as the current cloaking device without interruption).
the idea is to increase the skill floor to use cloak effectively. it punishes players for staying cloaked too long and rewards players for using cloak more sparingly, if you only stay cloaked for 4s at a time you can get an extra second out of your cloak. I feel the lower activation cost would make using cloak less annoying especially in the middle of fights, but still be more balanced and less annoying to play against compared to pre 2.5 cloak.

[violet solstice]

Just goes to show u cant comprehend the written word dude. I wasn't referring to the Nerfed Cloak in Ranked I was referring to how Cloak was BEFORE the nerf moron. SMFH. I never used stun gun so dont really have an opinion on it except to say I never had a problem with it when it was used on me. Anyways I think a GREAT idea would be to take Defibs away from Medium class & give them to Light Class. Leave Mediums with Healing Beam. Defibs make more sense for the quicker more agile Light Class as a gadget rather than Medium who Defib & Heal.....& REVERT CLOAK BACK THE WAY IT WAS!!!! & thanks for making my point as to why Cloak should never have been nerfed in the 1st place pal lol........>>>Or keep crying bc you can't seem to wrap your head around the fact that you're playing the glass cannon in a team shooter, and are the most punishable class in the game.<<<< So lets make the glass cannon, weakest & easiest class in the game even weaker & easier to kill....ahahahaha great logic dude. @south crane There is no point relearning or learning how to use another ability/nerfed ability when that will most likely be changed or nerfed in the future as well. People are already whining about dash in here since the cloak nerf so how long b4 the Devs pander to them & nerf dash as well...smfh. U just dont get it, if the Devs keep nerfing everything on a regular basis because some people whine about it why would I want to spend countless hrs learning & mastering a class just to have to keep relearning it everytime the Devs Nerf or change something else?? Its about continuity of play so the class u learn & master isnt gutted everytime some bozo whines about it. Sick of spending countless hrs reworking & relearning how to play a class just to have to have to do it over & over again. The Devs need to know this hence why I am here voicing my feedback cos the more they keep nerfing the more players will leave the game just because of a bunch of whiners on discord who spend more time here whining than in the game.

[thick sorrel]

Model 1887

• 2 Shots Light over 20 meters:
  https://youtu.be/l2mnBZmT7xg?si=8__NPWBJyqOQ22bp&t=43
  Why? It's a shotgun!

[graceful orbit]

Anybody else having trouble with the deal 1,000 damage from 100 meters or more?? Bc I have been sniping far as hell away and it’s stuck on 35/1000

[odd arch]

I just finised 4k damage with 100m its kinda fun actually but I don't think i'll play sniper again

[quick coyote]

What I'm looking forward to in the next update! They are told by a player who is addicted to his game. 💀 *** IT HURTS WHOEVER IT HURTS *** 💀 1 : Stop making balance changes to your weapons. With each update, they don't stop pampering people who don't know what it's like to make an effort to improve. 🔫 2 : Upgrade the HEIGHS. Of all the classes, the heavies are abandoned, put a weapon or a new ability to stand out, they are already the ones that cause "Destruction" in the biography. 💪 3 : Put more seriousness into PLAYERS who get out in the middle of games. Literally every 10 games in 6 games players have to leave. sometimes because you're losing, etc... but it's not a reason to get out when you can come back. Give a more serious punishment example: 2 Hours to not play the way you got out. 4 : *Put more MODES and events! *Question: Is the current event fun and does it have its twist? Answer: Yes, it is very good and the community appreciates it. But by adding more fun and entertaining modes, you don't end up getting bored doing the same thing. Events to motivate many more players to play and become a much bigger community! 5 : A collaboration with someone! It would break the game.

[regal cairn]

BUFF THE 93R PLEASE ITS SO USELESS I LOVE THE STYLE OF THE GUN BUT THE DPS JUST ISNT HIGH ENOUGH

[south crane]

the light cloak arguments/ long paragraphs ranting about the nerfs and changes are getting redundant and annoying. just wait for next weeks patch to see what happens with the cloak stun gun and chill out. if you seriously relied on cloak that much to where you're in here typing college essays complaining, you'd be better off spending your time learing how to get better using dash or just learn when to use cloak more effectively. I used to complain about cloak being too OP myself but right before the nerf I was figuring out how to deal with it more. Im sure the Devs are tired of reading and hearing about the cloak crap themselves, so either adapt to the changes and appreciate the game for what it is, or just go find another game to play if invisibility is that big of a deal to the casual player. either adapt to the changes at hand or suck it up, not every specialization, weapon and gadget needs a rework each patch just because something becomes the new meta or annoying to deal with. Give these devs credit for making this unique game that we all love and hope to see prosper, we don't need to constantly blast them with the same crap during each patch period

[quick coyote]

I just shoot around the area I last saw the cloak person and it works 99% of the time

[proven ibex]

I'm not mad at the 100m contract but why do you guys assign different tasks for different players? I have to 4k damage and I'm ok with it but my friends got 1k,2k damage to do. Why different contracts for different players? Just wondering why?

[dull merlin]

Hey, I had many issues with the queues. I have waited over 40 minutes every time and I never get into a game. It seems like it might be placement matches that are like this, but it would be nice if that gets fixed so I can have fun with my friends 😁

[willow leaf]

This game would be better if they removed the medium class

[wary storm]

lol I think you miss the point about why people are unhappy with it. It nerfed the weakest class in ranked (whilst they was told 2 more nerfs are coming) because people in casual didn’t like. That there is too much calling for nerfing and reactionary nerfs from devs. I think the devs have done great things but are listening too much however with weekly nerfs and buffs (not patches for other issues ) will never make the game feel consistent and will always lead to reactionary changes to classes which is not right

[pale quest]

Can something be done about lights using sniper as shotgun noscoping everyone

[dull elm]

An option for the pings not to fade away when ads'ing would be nice
That + the ping showing up the the small compass in the top of the screen

[odd arch]

kill him before noscoping you

[smoky belfry]

Revert cloak. It has been such a dramatic change that was made only because people who didn’t know how to counter it kept complaining even tho light class is already the weakest class. The reason I feel that y’all nerfing the cloak was a bad idea was because as a controller player it gave you the ability to compete with pc players at the same high level as them and games usually don’t give that advantage at all or have the means to give everyone a chance to compete at the same level since pc has always dominated every game. I felt that the way cloak was actually gave controller players the advantage for once. Another thing is cloak no longer has a defense mechanism in it which is very important as a light to have since we have so little health. I hope that y’all listen to your community and really understand how to balance out classes without listening to complainers when you should be listening to people who spend a long time with this game and is impartial when it comes to this game in looking for it’s best interest. Your idea to nerf stun makes 100% sense if that means it can help other classes such as medium and heavy have a better fighting chance against a light but cloak should be reverted back. Thank you for reading these messages and I hope that it can maybe help you see some future changes that need to be made

[violet solstice]

lol I do the same thing if I lose a cloaked light, I just spray a few bullets around the area & BOOM the Light uncloaks lol. But seriously I don't want people to get me wrong, I loved The Finals & played for many hours every single day. I had no complaints except the cheating issue & just went about my business, but as the nerfs started coming thick & fast it just started getting ridiculous. The more some players whined in this discord/reddit/utube etc the more the devs tried to pander to them & it started killing the game for me. It is a great game & was really fun to play but the Cloak nerf "with more to come" as they said was just the final nail in the coffin. It killed the fun & made the weakest easiest to kill class even easier to kill. Who knows whats going to be nerfed next?? Every week its a new bunch of nerfs/changes & I have no reason to keep wasting hours of my time adapting to these constant nerfs/changes. There's no continuity of class or consistency of gameplay cos no matter how many hours I spend learning & mastering a class to get it to a good place to play, another nerf comes along to nuke it all. REVERT CLOAK BACK TO WHAT IT WAS!!!

[young minnow]

Honestly the matchmaking has been a lot better and I haven’t ran into any hackers today. Good stuff Embark!

[dire lance]

Twice in back to back days now I've made it to the final round of a ranked tournament and lost to cheaters. These matches take too long to have a potential win stolen from you from the start. The cheating issue needs to be addressed; people aren't going to keep putting up with this.

[reef jasper]

REVERT CLOAK

FIX CHEATING

[willow leaf]

First game back after a week I get two light teammates. Both playing cloak(guess that nerf wasn’t so bad) one of them playing sword and getting 0 kills. This is in rank btw. No wonder the game is dying.

[frigid iris]

good game

[still yoke]

A midevil map where the center is a castle surounded by a village and the village is surrounded by farmlands and also add a knight armor

[humble tinsel]

this is a great game with an identity problem on top of an already incredibly hard to balance framework. i’ve been taking a break for a good bit now without taking my eyes off of it. hoping to see promising developments and changes for this game in the mean time. want nothing but the best for it, there’s truly something special here. keep up the good work embark team

[grizzled canopy]

Day 21 of asking Embark for ||medieval bundles||

[thick sorrel]

Model 1887

• 2 Shots Light over 20 meters:
  https://youtu.be/l2mnBZmT7xg?si=8__NPWBJyqOQ22bp&t=43
  Below 10m it's a 3 shot for Medium.
  But 2 shots Light at 20 meters 😨

[dusk copper]

We should be able to put jump pads on throwables

[rancid cloud]

For the love of God, buff flashbangs

[reef jasper]

REVERT CLOAK

FIX CHEATING (it is rampant)

[willow leaf]

This game is dying because of its horrible balancing. The balancing in this game is like nothing I’ve ever seen. So sad because this game had such potential

[drifting gorge]

Revert cloak please, you nerfed it way too hard lol. If cloak has the highest pick rate, make the other specializations more useful

[supple osprey]

Played a match if power shift and the whole time, i was good gunned by my own opponent. Please make this immune to your own teammates when its first used. Never been so pissed.

[quick coyote]

they literally just had a patch for cheaters. you cant kill them all. the cheats evolve with the patches dawg

[tropic pelican]

"
the finals login failed due to a service interruption
"

how to fix?

[paper ivy]

pls multiple tattoos at once, i wanna wear face makeup with a full body one

[drowsy stump]

Error code TFLA0013, literally been trying to contact someone. Went through all your channels I do this at least once a day. All I want is to talk to someone and no one is there to help or even tell me what the code means. I don’t think they even know. I’ve been researching my issue and there are at least 4 random error codes out there that are sinking your account. Once you get it the game will no longer connect. Yes I know there was a ANTI cheat update. But these codes are not the cheater error code. Plus I’m on Xbox I’m not a cheater. Yet the devs and their support team has yet to even explain any of this. Don’t reach out, don’t put a ticket in. You will waste a week of your time for absolutely zero reply. On the website when they do reply it’s a bot even though it’s supposed to be a person. I would recommend saving your money for a bit don’t spend anything until they can promise you that you will actually be able to play. I spent money bought a bunch of stuff now I can’t even play. They can’t even take the time to explain it.

[timber pulsar]

The flamethrower and grenade launcher are both incredibly underutilized while being super awesome and filling their own nieche, but they don’t seem to work as primary weapons

[quick coyote]

The weapon fires 8 pellets in a VERY tight spread so regardless of how far you are you'll hit something. Each pellet deals 16 damage with the max damage of 128.

It's widely agreed to be perfectly balanced but I personally despise that tight spread. Still outclassed by FCAR anyways so who cares 🤷‍♂️

[rancid falcon]

the problem would be that you have no way to defend yourself, such as mesh shield. I play grenade/flamethrower a lot and the mesh shield is incredibly important in sucking up damage, due to the higher killtimes of both weapons.

[violet solstice]

hahahahaha ....If the Nerf to cloak wasnt so bad then why did the Light with cloak on ur team get 0 kills & it sounds like the other light with cloak didnt do so well either lol...Cloak nerf was bad for the class & bad for the game. REVERT CLOAK BACK TO WHAT IT WAS

[cursive tide]

I'm getting the same teammate in two consecutive matchs, on MY team, who purposely isnt playing and is just standing and watching while we run around and bounce on jumppads

[frosty maple]

mine 4

[mild tendon]

I just want to say, I'm still having a lot of fun with this game. Embark, you have something really awesome here, and I can't wait to see the full vision come thru. Keep up the amazing work.

[topaz hamlet]

the weekly challenge for 1000 damage from over 100m has turned this game into a sniper-fest and its not fun at all, also PERMANENT SPAWN PROTECTION WHILE IN SPAWN PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

[fallow loom]

there is a spawn protection for a few seconds

[thick sorrel]

Thanks for the numbers 128 DMG per Shot with such tight spread is crazy. You can't miss, even when you just hit 5 of 8 pellets it's a 2 shot against Light.
I'm expecting a serious FCAR nerf like little less RPM too. Just in case it's happening, balance Model 1887 with a little wider spread.
Otherwise it feels like a superior RPG😵

[summer venture]

why do you idiots insist on making melee weapons dogshit

[near prism]

R u still arguing about this dead game XD

[quick coyote]

All the people here saying cheating got better made me get back on, what a bunch of BS, Asia server is still as infested with cheaters. Liars man, Asia server is insufferable. Fucking hell man Cheaters lewis gun aimbotting first game in Ranked in Asia, this game is doomed

[midnight oxide]

Sounds like a skill issue.

[quick coyote]

make the ranked system more clear

[marsh turret]

Can we add a feature were you can turn down someone's mic from your side?? Instead of muting them. Because let me tell you. Some people are WAYY to loud

[stable lagoon]

Make the SH1900 into dual shotguns too, double the mag size & double the reload time. Cos it’s funny.

[frigid cradle]

Anyone notice that the ingame push to talk likes to toggle on rather then turn off on release?

[twin heart]

If you actually used 1887 youd know its damage is very much balanced, its tight spread means you can miss entire shots easier and with its fire rate and reload speed/segmentation it punishes you for missing a lot more than sh1900 or heavys sa12. Please leave the damn thing alone.

[thick sorrel]

Fix Cl-40 selfdamage please, 47 HP selfdamage Point Blank?
https://youtu.be/BhcNq0TyCv0?si=QxyndQU6AjQpOlUX&t=89
You can kill a whole Team right in front of you and survive. The world's best CQB weapon: The Grenade Launcher...

@twin heart
Guess what, every gun is bad when you miss.
Take Sniper for example:
Long range - very good
Mid - meh
Close - you must be brave or silly

Model 1887
Close - very good
Mid - very good
Long - meh

See the difference? The only reason no one complains is because most people pick FCAR.

Nobody complained about sniper. Until powershift came and many Players picked Sniper (Which needs nerfs too, bulletdrop, no hitscan etc.)

I'm playing every good First Person Shooter since 22 years and working as Quality Engineer since 11 years. I know when I see an imbalance.

Btw. still loving this game.

[silk cloud]

When using the female medium contestant the hands are clipping through the new retro M.1887 skin because it's too chunky

[drifting gorge]

Fr

[paper ivy]

i agree revert cloak

[steel marlin]

allow us to buy seperate cosmetics from bundles. i dont wanna buy skins for other weapons that i dont use, i just want one and the bundle price is not worth it for that singular weapon skin

[glacial sierra]

or at least skin every gun etc for the price they are. might be worth $20 to get an entire theme.

[rough herald]

APS: Proactivity and fck your projectile problem (Day 11 of asking)

Notes:
. to start off, i love the idea of the aps, the ability of being able to defend an area locking down a room is fun
. but its just unfair in some situation all because the "fck your projectile" part of APS.
for a weapon like the GL that shoot projectile you basically lose the fight automatically
. and for powershift its basically mandatory to win (that gamemode need a rework tbh)
. its also a one and done. meaning once you place it down it just stay there forever

Suggestion:
. (fck your projectile) either make it so it take damage with each projectile destroy. Or it can only destroy 5 projectile then broke
. and also give it a 3 second activation time like the turret have
. (One and Done) make it lose hp overtime

side note: for the love of RN-Jesus just let me play with my fav gun cl-40 Without a aps fcking me over.
Like How are you suppose to kill someone WHO CAN"T TAKE DAMAGE??? its like playing riot shield without the shield
(embark pls fix )

[frigid cradle]

Why would you make a challenge that compels teammates to sit over 100 meters away with a sniper in a game that is all about teamwork and pushing together; Why not make challenge's that promote teamwork instead?

[keen lily]

so fucking cool my teammate disconnects or leaves at the start of the 2nd round and I get punished for it

[placid panther]

KS-23 should do 110 damage

[manic steppe]

Love losing my rank up game to a blantant cheater. Fix your damn anti cheat.

[thick sorrel]

Simple Tip:
High Skill - low TTK (LH1)
No Skill - high TTK (FCAR)

[rough herald]

all gun attachment, need 10,000 kills on said gun to unlock
(1k is too lil, it need to send message that im not even trying while memeing on enemy gamer noob)

[silk cloud]

Pretty frustrating that triple Medium AK/FCAR is just dominating every ranked game atm. You have such great weapon variety that encourages interesting and fun gameplay, but most of that equipment is so poorly balanced that it never gets used and we just end up playing another boring AR shooter.

Oh and also why are you so obsessed with releasing AK premium skins? AK has what, 19 skins now? While most weapons have half that?

And, while I'm here, you need someone on your design team who know how to style women's clothing. I really have no interest in another tacticool cargo-pants wearing wideboy. If you had interesting/stylish designs (and not just reskins of existing clothing) then I'm pretty sure people would throw money at you for it.

Some more ideas to encourage people to use other loadouts;

• increase damage on sword lunge (but reduce walking speed while charging to balance it)
• Increase (a lot) throwing knife alt-fire projectile speed
• Riot shield should have an electric baton which gives a 0.2 second stun upon hit
• Heavy charge should give 15% defensive boost to help close the distance
• glitch grenades should destroy APS turrets. Give light a way to counter the APS/Sentry stacks that triple mediums spam out. If you make one change, please make it this.
• make smoke grenades thicker. I want zero transparency
• stun grenades should reduce movement speed as well as blinding

You're going to get a lot of complaints for buffing anything which counters the Medium AR build, because that's currently the meta and people are lazy and unimaginative when picking loadouts. I'd say fuck 'em personally. Those are the same people cheering that the light stun/invis just got nerfed; What goes around comes around.

Oh, and enabling emoji reaction in this feedback channel would be a good way for other players to indicate which suggestions they approve of. And if someone from embark was willing to occasionally acknowledge suggestions that would help people feel like their voices are being heard and not just being encouraged to shout into the void.

[proud eagle]

accurate. absolutely accurate. just one part missing; do something about their anti-cheat system as well.

[glossy bough]

Embark pls let us message people on our friend list, otherwise it's impossible to setup games with pubs we add from our games

[graceful hollow]

yeah but don't buff sword, any more dmg to lunge and its a one tap to lights. dash sword combo is crazy powerful in the right hands as it is

and last time emoji reactions were on, half of the messages here got clown reactions

[river plover]

I agree with most of your stuff, but the shield should get a short glitch instead of a stun, otherwise you just stunlock people.

Charge and slam should NOT be buffed it is already very strong. But I might have an idea for a rework, make it so the heavy gradually does more damage and becomes faster over the course of the charge. Make the charge start at 50% speed and dmg, up to 150% at the end of the charge. Give the heavies a 20% damage reduction at the start of the charge that bevomes 0% at halfway through the charge.

This would stop the problem that a lot of lights have where a heavy can shoot them once with a lewis then just charge to instantly kill them before they can even see the heavy is charging

[twin heart]

Yes the weapon might seem very OP if you just look at the raw statistics, pick the strongest parts of them, overlook its weaker parts and ignore its actual in-game performance.
128 damage and 20m range sounds very good until you actually use it and see that it doesn't perform that well unless you hit nearly every damn shot at center mass... and hitting center mass at 20m on a small, fast target isn't as simple as shooting a target dummy. Obviously every weapon is bad when you miss but what im trying to point out is weapons have varying degrees of forgiveness and with 72RPM, 6 round capacity and 0.8s PER SHELL reload 1887 is much less forgiving than not only 2 shotguns i already mentioned but a lot of other weapons. The whole "shtick" of 1887 is that it functions more like a hunting rifle than a shotgun (if that's a right way to call it), its more effective at mid-range than close range where tracking someone is harder (assuming someone is actively fighting you and not just standing or being busy fighting someone else).
If you're a light and a model 1887 is an issue to you then either out-range it or don't 1v1 them, you as a light are supposed to be flanking anyway, and if you're good enough you can even 1v1 them, a semi-decent dash light will usually demolish an 1887.
Seriously just use the weapon and see how "simple and OP" it is.

[stoic oyster]

4k damage at 100+ Meters is an unbelievable ask, we already hated snipers in powershift, now we have to, and on some maps its just not even possible :/

[floral prairie]

Remove snipers right now. This game doesn’t need them. If you can’t remove them make a sniper only game mode. Make snipers not hit scan. Also buff cloaking device people can see you way to easily when using it.

[broken lake]

the slam already does up to 200 damage if you leap from a high height. (about the top of a medium building in the game)

[coral burrow]

so what ive noticed a few times now already which is a really bad design from this game, is the following..

last timer has about 15 seconds or so left,
Point A is taken by enemey, which with 15seconds if u respawn at that time is doable if u dont get to respawn at the other side of the map,
but for whatever reason many many... times the game just respawns in this case "my team" on the freaking other side of the map, which takes well over 20-30+ seconds to even get to in this case Point A
(basically meaning, don;'t bother walking cuz u won't outrun the timer, when the bar is only on Half)

Whats this about???,
i would have put a screenshot or something but no perms it seems

[remote tiger]

you can't make choices that please everybody
please give some love to the devs as they are already trying to shape this game to everyone's liking, albeit it seems impossible and it is hard to pull off

I LOVE THIS GAME and it is definitely not dead.

have a great day

[river plover]

Which is why the slam shouldnt get the damage buff/debuff

[static phoenix]

Can't find games in any server! Have been queuing in NA for 1/2 hour!

[teal minnow]

you either got killed by a sniper or can't use sniper. The sniper is in a pretty good place ,if you can't use something and somebody killed you with the gun they should remove it? Get better at the game learn how to counter someone with a sniper. I can agree about your opinion on the hit scan ,yes it shouldn't be like that but it's EMBARK's game let them make it as they want it to be.
KEEP IT UP EMBARK

[lusty grotto]

We've been like this since season 1 with the medium being god

[rough herald]

**RPG: the bain of light main
note:
. alright heavy main, before you call me a crying light main... i am that but listen dude. say you're playing heavy and suddenly something hit you out of nowhere and tank 90% of your hp form full and before you can react and then you die form one more shot. or you are hart before this fight so you get deleted before you even blink. thats light vs heavy for ya
. the rpg don't oneshot light anymore leaving light at 10hp... so here the funny thing, light don't always run around with full hp, they get shot like anyone and get shot even once and then be hit by a rpg? still one shot!
. make it do like 100 at the tippeti top the most but i like it to be maybe even 50 or 60
**
Suggestion:

**Utility rpg: ** (transfer it power form offences to utility)
. 50 damage flat even on splash (it do so lil damage so why not give it full damage)
. +20 damage if direct hit
. give 2 charge
. buff the switch from speed and NOT the switch TO speed (make it batter for trapping)
. no deviation in hip fire

Combat rpg: (some people like it this way, i'll try to make it works)
. 100 damage
. nerf switch from speed by a lil bit (to give player that got hit by surprise time to react)
. no deviation in ads

[floral prairie]

I’m sorry that I am getting sniped cross map by someone not really playing the game and to add to that most often i am using cloaking device and getting cross mapped sniped. I do agree that this is EMBARKs game and they can do what they want to it but they have a feed back section for feed back which is all my previous message was.

[jagged mortar]

get rid of snipers in power shift

[nova veldt]

Add a reconnect button, in case of game crash.
I keep getting suspended and losing rank progress.

[obtuse yoke]

So this is a game feedback section I don't see why you feel the need to tell someone to get better when they are using the server for its purpose, the snipers are unfair, you can sit back from 100kms away and headshot snipe people because it's hitscan with very little damage drop off, I don't think snipers should be removed but simply make them projectile weapons therefore it's so much harder to sit up in a little nest for the whole game and just farm damage and kills, and the fact that for snipers it seems 100 times easier to see invisible players?? The point of the ability is to lower your visibility not change it. The nerf was unnecessary and makes it too easy to see someone who shouldn't be seen, I get that it shouldn't be perfect but it also shouldn't be as easy as it is right now. All in all the snipers are unbalanced and the people that actually fight close range with them are GOOD anyone sitting from range just can't actually be enjoying the game and they're ruining it for others, I absolutely love this game it's honestly just the snipers need nerfing and the invisible needs to be returned to its prior state 😸😸

[chilly cedar]

the game is very poorly optimized, especially after the most recent update. I played with everything on normal before the update and now I can't even run the game on low without frame drops. I love this game, devs please fix.

[meager remnant]

+1

[proud eagle]

i came back after 12 years and your anticheat is the same
@arctic relic and i just met the most subtle hacker using revolver.

[thick sorrel]

So much text but no value. Compare KS-23 to Model 1887. Which got so much buffs (H shotgun) and still M shotgun is so much better midrange and forgving...
The balance is between them.

Talking about out-ranging a shotgun. You know something is wrong when you lose midrange with smg vs a shotgun... did you see the video?
https://youtu.be/l2mnBZmT7xg?si=8__NPWBJyqOQ22bp&t=43

[arctic relic]

I have noticed an increase in the amount of hackers using snipers. They dont miss a single shot. Hit u at a rate that would only be possible with a quick scope etc ...

[digital drum]

Deal 75k structural damage using arena carriables isnt working really

[mystic briar]

add mg42

[bright jolt]

what do you mean by "light machine guns" or "assault rifles" exactly?? why the 2 light's weapons don't work????

[violet elbow]

because Light Machine Guns are the Heavy LMG, it doesnt refer to the "light" class, its any of the medium and heavy rifles

[supple abyss]

Delete the Sniper rifle, like seriously. Everything has insane damage drop off, but you allow a sniper rifle in this game.

[sly estuary]

I am saying this from release: "you cant have solo random against stack team in high TTK team based game" I cant solo cary like in other games so only thing if you dont have 2 friends to play is uninstal the game. Its that simple

[upper granite]

CURRENT FEEDBACK: the not intended challenges where SO much better than the one we got now! Please change it back!

[quick coyote]

Hi , i think that the gurdian turet should dispawn or "disappear" after the player who have placed it been killed , because it makes no sense that i have killed the player and he still manges to kill me .

[merry geyser]

Hello Embark, hope this message reaches you! It would be real cool to add tough to complete contracts. Add a cosmetic item to it so that the skilled players have something to show for it. Maybe make it in a different category of contracts, apart from the circuits and daily. Thank you! I really enjoyed showing off my yellow snow mask before it changed from the "win a tournament"

[jagged coyote]

The rendering distance for cloaked lights needs to be increased. If you shoot them from distance and they cloak you just cant see them anymore

[opaque panther]

It makes no sense that you think players can't kill you after they die. If they throw a grenade at you, you kill them, grenade should despawn for no reason?

[twin heart]

You're overstating how much better at mid-range 1887 is over KS-23.
The only notable difference currently, at least if we're talking strictly mid-range performance, is with KS-23 not being hitscan.. thats it, light will still die to 2 shots and at the same speed as 1887 since they have the same fire rate, should we nerf KS-23 simply because it can do that?
Also, shocking, a shotgun is also capable of mid-range combat and can... watch for it... DESTROY target dummies (yes ive seen that video way before, i can make any weapon look very strong by shooting shit in practice range)

[obtuse yoke]

That's a lie I've been sniped from across the map while invisible by snipers

[floral prairie]

Same here

[whole ocean]

The "Deal 75,000 structural damage" contract isn't registering progress.

[magic wolf]

Make the nonsensical madness sounding screaming from the alpha and closed beta trailers real like for the love of god it is so much more immersive to the need-there-of maximum shock and entertainment value of The Finals as a gameshow, I know it would be a long term project because it may mean mixing it in with the ai-voicing somehow or replacing lines entirely and having a more aggressive delivery, maybe even having the languages/accents partly change based on where you are in the world/what map like in the closed beta trailer
Anyways tldr: make the announcer voices sound like in the trailer i.e. coked up WWE callout would be very immersive and probably sound a lot better and its partly what got me into the finals from the trailers in the first place, wanting all that chaos audio-wise while also having it gameplay-wise

[craggy vessel]

Good Morning!

[proud eagle]

good morning beautiful

[boreal mirage]

Structural damage quest is bugged? it is not counting

[thick sorrel]

I said buff KS-23 and nerf Model 1887 to fits its role. I wouldn't complain when KS-23 performs midrange good (it has slug ammo and takes skill), but it's the other way around. Give Model 1888 some spread and it's a pellet shotgun - now it's like a huge Slug you can't miss...

[wide belfry]

Same for gas for me.

[fading pelican]

I don't even mind the cheaters anymore. I can "weather" them. I just wish everything else worked. 😦
The arena carriables contract doesn't work. It's ridiculous. I just wish if they change it, they give it a free fulfilled contract (basically free exp considering the inconvenience from their failure to deliver).
Nothing about the game incentives make sense...
I really like this game, great concept.. but I think I'm gonna quit since it's such a bother because of these unnecessary mistakes from the devs. And reading their updates/notes makes me feel like they don't really care...
It's obvious there are talented people among the devs but somewhere in their group is mismanagement. Such a waste. This game could've been, could be great.

[sour parrot]

Every update on this damn game makes it worse

[buoyant bluff]

So uh we're still on triple medium AR meta? EZ game. Heavies shield is dead. There's barely counterplay to APS turrets + Guardian Turrets. Season 1 was better because at least most of the guns were as unbalanced as the ones that continue to be meta right now.

But gg, I guess stun gun still hasn't got the fix you guys mentioned

[simple swift]

the game should add a economy system,such as "buy back" in dota2

[worn sigil]

Stun Gun and Invisible changes are with the big patch next week or week after they said.

As well as changes to ranked and weapon balances

[untold jolt]

it's impossible to deal 4000 damages from 100 meters

[weary forge]

Finals beta was fun bc EVERYTHING was op

[rough herald]

dude it dosn't say you have to do it in one shot

@grizzled hornet i think the roit shield need it tho

[quick dew]

Riot Shield needs a buff badly.

Everything good the riot shield had like disarming mines, faster attack glitch, or having the shield off to your side has been removed, and now it's a fairly useless weapon with a 5 second TTK on heavies, and for what, a little bit of cover?

In the next "big" upcoming patch I kindly ask for the following buffs for Riot Shield:

• Faster attack speed
  Riot Shield needs a faster attack speed, killing a heavy is a death sentence most of the time because a 5 second TTK is actually a joke.

IF emote cancelling (like for sword) is staying in the game as a mechanic, add in tech where emote cancelling when you land a hit lets you hit slightly faster. Similar to how it was with the controller bug.

• Stun on hit
  The biggest problem with Riot Shield is when you face a Light or a Medium, the best counter to Riot Shield is to literally just run away.

There needs to be functionality where each hit "stuns" the enemy, not in a way like the stun gun, but every hit should stop the enemy from sprinting for like 0.5 - 1s, so you can't just run away in a straight line and be safe. But if the enemy medium is smart and uses utility to get away, they are still able to quite easily.

• Bring back shield to the side when interacting
  This was one of the best features of Riot Shield and I'm upset to see it gone, it does make sense, the riot shield just stays attached to your arm while you interact, exactly how it would work in real life. (good counter to stun which is needed)

• Tank explosive mine damage
  When you have your shield up with secondary fire and walk over an explosive mine, it should explode but do zero damage to the player or structure, with the shield absorbing all of it. This is currently possible but only if you have perfect positioning, just make it more consistent I beg.

(day 4 of asking for riot shield buff until embark adds it)

[grizzled hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/spongeboomer-keep-yapping-buddy-yapper-spongebob-meme-squidiot-box-gif-12016722146058138836

[reef jasper]

thank you for changing the "bank it" challenge

[signal quest]

Get a new anti-cheat. Aimbot numbers are crazy atm

[prisma plaza]

i rejoined a game and my hand are just raised and not holding a gun

[stray rampart]

Work on the optimization please. Game also crashes like crazy!

[obtuse yoke]

Yea I was having a really good game I was on 22 kids at 4 min remaining on power shift and the game crashed

[neat lake]

Bank it is a pain in the a$$
that's my feedback

[modern wedge]

honestly i think just being able to hold m1 to heavy attack, as well as having faster atk speed would be good enough

actually yea slight stun increase might be good

[floral prairie]

In power shift make it so you can’t stack the platform with 5 aps turrets and regular turrets. It would be great to actually have a chance at reclaiming the platform.

Also allow us to 1v1 our friends in private matches. This would make a great edition over just playing public games.

[minor sphinx]

I really wish they add ingame text chat :/ anything else about this game is just perfect

[wide belfry]

No need imho. Will only get toxic. There is ways to communicate ingame that works.

[jagged coyote]

maybe its because i play on low settings for performance reasons, but cloaking should be independent of that

[hearty birch]

you are delusional sorry to tell you

[digital drum]

there is already players that are going really crazy with riot shield , buffing it like you want will make it overpower , it needs buffs but not like you said , sorry

[tawdry mesa]

Deal 75k structural damage with carriables is not tracking

[karmic hawk]

How do I complete this task? I tried everything: I broke with a sledgehammer, blew up buildings with C4 and used RPG

"Deal 100.000 structural damage using contestants equipment or loadout"

nothing is working... why?

[indigo dune]

Yeah i noticed that as well

[quick dew]

https://tenor.com/view/piss-role-yellow-role-roleism-roleist-blip-gif-18076629220020312300

[reef jasper]

game needs major balancing for teams .... please make the solo experience bearable

[foggy orbit]

The riot shield does need buffs, but nothing crazy, it could be buffed in a variety of ways, I'd like to see melee hits be more consistent, I think the melee range should be increased to 3/3.5 meters. With how long the ttk is in this game, I don't mind protected stance doesn't fully protect you, but the insane slow down you have while blocking makes it trivial to hit a shielder trying to block. Either increase speed while blocking or make the slow blocking stance protect much better, so it is used solely as a defensive measure, and not an aggressive one.

[terse inlet]

Not being able to fix the "Deal 4000 damage from 100+ meters" is buuuuuullshit @quick coyote That's the issue, sniper in this game isn't fun and I don't want to be "that guy" who just sits far away and snipes the whole game (Also I just played a sniper round on powershift and even with over an 8k combat score none of the damage was at over 100 meters

[normal glen]

I have gotten no progress towards the mission do damage from a distance less than 25 meters, despite gaining progress in the mission to do melee damage. Does melee not count because if so the mission should say that imo, if melee does count it´s not working right.

[quick coyote]

Use sniper

[formal bear]

yep, not tracking for me either

[thick sorrel]

After Light nerf it's not even on Top100 anymore. I was waiting for update... don't let us wait too long.

[twin heart]

It is a pellet shotgun and you will miss with it, with slug you just need to hit the target anywhere and you deal full damage, if you dont hit with 1887 dead center your per-shot damage suffers and the 2 shot turns into a 3 shot... and with 72RPM i dont think i need to explain the result.

Just because "its a shotgun" doesn't mean it shouldn't have range because of "video game logic" and as a light you have plenty of weapons that let you either outrange it or get in their face and use your small size, high dps and movement specializations to kill them. I've faced 1887s as light plenty of times without a stun gun and had 0 issues dealing with them simply because i had experience with 1887 and knew its drawbacks.

[pale fossil]

If a hacker hits a whole mag in the entire face they should be banneedddddddd. Make anti cheat betterrrrrr

[terse lark]

idea for cloak rework:
decrease cloak activation cost to 1s and make cloak run out exponentially faster the longer you have it active. like if you are cloaked for longer than 4s your cloak resource drains something like 1.5x faster and after like 6s it drains the cloak resource 2.0x faster.
with a change like this a light could only stay cloaked for a max of 8s (this is the same amount of time as the current cloaking device without interruption).
the idea is to increase the skill floor to use cloak effectively. it punishes players for staying cloaked too long and rewards players for using cloak more sparingly, if you only stay cloaked for 4s at a time you can get an extra second out of your cloak. I feel the lower activation cost would make using cloak less annoying especially in the middle of fights, but still be more balanced and less annoying to play against compared to pre 2.5 cloak.

[daring siren]

can second this, its not working for me either

[floral vault]

We need a dagger skin which is a hotdog with jiggle physics 💯💯💯

[wicked dragon]

anyone else's game not registering "Deal 75K damage to arena with cariables" challenge??

[wide belfry]

w

[rough herald]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[rose surge]

Revert the cloak nerf

[errant hamlet]

is something going weird with the circuits?? Mine changed from last night, but I still have the 4000 points of damage from 100 meters. Which is near impossible to do because of the level size.

[formal bear]

yes, 75k damage to arena is not tracking

[glossy panther]

its a stun gun feature xD (old video)

[fleet dragon]

Change was posted in #game-announcements

[quick coyote]

Cheaters what are you doing to fix, Stop making skins and doing anything else fix the cheaters

[river plover]

They have different teams for making skins and working on anticheat.
Artists arent the same as coders
They are continououly updating the anticheat

[umbral hinge]

SEA Q in ranked taking so long, I've been waiting 20 minutes but still not get the match. If found the match, I against platinum (I'm in silver 1 ). How come? 😂

[upper citrus]

wait true it was really fun being randomly taken out of the game by 1 shot explosives

[reef bobcat]

I'd like you to change the same mission even if it's already been done, "Put 4000 damage from over 100 meters." This is really annoying.

[hidden edge]

I actually think the challenges should be harder.
Im a filthy bronze and for me to smash out the challenges in a day, doesn't seem that hard.
I got 'burdened' with the 4k damage at 100m.
It's not super difficult to get.
Power shift on skyway makes it pretty easy.

I would love to see some long term challenges in there, like the steam achievements but in game.
10k headshots, 1 mill damage, like 100 quick melee kills lol. Give cosmetics to show off 🙂

[dry raft]

Since last update I haven"t seen any cheater. I saw like 5-6 cheaters per day before in diamond. Now it's look safe

[terse inlet]

I agree, there's rarely a moment in any map in which you can fight someone at 100+ meters. I'm trying to snipe on powershift and have only got 600 damage at that distance

[warped matrix]

Bro the game crashes, i get banned and i can't login the game that is currently playing again thats a joke xd

[foggy sail]

Keep not connecting between ranked rounds. Have to restart the game to reconnect

[brittle obsidian]

Weak healing gadgets for light and heavy would be nice. Healgun being necessary in comp is boring.

[broken pawn]

Also not working for me

[wicked dragon]

Yeah, it's bugged. Probably will have to wait until the devs change this particular challenge

[stray rampart]

I love playing UE5 crash simulator every round

[lavish shard]

Remove sbmm
Stop nerfing light just the stungun
Add option crossplay ps5/xbox

[abstract harbor]

So, I've now been suspended from ranked matchmaking because I cancelled the matchmaking process earlier, after waiting for several minutes and no match being found. Apparently, it assigned me to some tournament I wasn't aware of, and I was marked as quitting. Could this ranked system be any worse?

[plush grotto]

Tbh if they got rid of heals I think it’d be pretty fun. It would completely change comp and strategies. There would prolly be a whole lot more turrets though lol

[obtuse quest]

If you swap accounts this happens, you need to delete the game and all of the temp files and settings, then reinstall

[weary forge]

If u talking about rpg then it was fun the 1 shot was fair I’d say, a little strict to hit but a lights move speed and gadget made it hard to get caught in a situation that would get you ik’d.(this is coming from a light player) but if u talking about the red canister + c4 combo u right it was not fun but it was still creative

[rough herald]

there a heavy about to shoot me behind that shield
(give me opacity option)

@weary forge getting hit by rpg by surprise is a garentee death and are not fun dude. i agree with the rest you said tho

[young minnow]

Same I haven’t ran into any

[whole sinew]

Has anyone's game crashed saying "Application was hung and now closing...", then get suspended in matchmaking when you restart

[gentle pecan]

So the building in the middle of the map should be turned into an office area of some sorts so that we can use it as a way to traverse to each square of that map.

The amount of games I've lost both from the beginning and ones I joined at like the end is a lot simply due to the middle giant black business building not being part of the traversable map unless the map specifically is Under Construction is unfortunately a lot.

I can't really think of any reasons not obvious other than lore implications like we aren't supposed to know what goes on in that building and thus it isn't explorable but I guess that's some extra food for thought.

I don't even care if you copy the interiors from horizon or the office buildings from skyway stadium. Just pretty please, Embark, make that a constant part of the map so I have atleast a chance at reaching the cashout that is cross map from my spawn/respawn point.

Does anyone else agree or disagree with me on this building and why?

[sage abyss]

Is the arena cariables structure damage not counting?

[keen lily]

I just played a power shift mode nad got a ranked ending screen arrow change (also 2 arrows down), wtf?!
Also please let us shoot shotgun mid-reload, we can after 1 bullet it just doesn't make sense we can't shoot when there is more bullets in the chamber or whatever it's called

[south crane]

thank you for getting rid of the damage from 100+ m challenge!!!!

[knotty tusk]

I'm now stuck with 40/4,000 dmg from 100+ meters. 😢 Please replace it, even for people who (unfortunently) started it.

[dry raft]

THe hospital from seoul map need a rework. This is not fair to cross the broken bridge in ranked and most of times, players just ignore this objectives point when they have to attack

[alpine wren]

Here's my list of ideas for weapons and gadgets that would be great to see in the game.

Weapons.

A hunting crossbow: this would have a slower rate of fire than the sniper's but would be more accurate even in no scop. It would also have the particularity of being completely silent when fired, so it would be impossible to find the shooter with sound spatialisation unless you could see the reflection of the scope.

The club would be aimed at the medium or average class. What's special about it is that it's fast, but not as fast as the midum's dag and shield, and it does a lot of damage to shields and all turrets combined, so when you charge with it you push opponents back a little further.

Gadgets:
The Handle Grenade, this would have a little more range than a classic grenade that throws it but would do a little less damage, it would be possible to strike with it in close combat which would do a huge amount of damage to the enemy but would also cause you to suffer damage but less consequential.

The bear trap, which is deplorable on the ground when the enemy steps on it, doesn't do any damage but blocks you for a moment before you can move again, but with the same effect as the stun but without the glitch.

[cyan void]

PLEASE IM BEGGING YOU DEVS, DONT PUNISH ME FOR TRYINGGGGGGGG

[worn sigil]

Of course it's fair. The meta for medium is both jump-pad and zip so you can get through anything. If you don't use it then tough luck. What do you expect if you don't run movability gadgets

[thick sorrel]

Funny how you ignore the performance comparison between KS-23 (hard to use, less rewarding) and Model 1887(easier to use, more rewarding). You don't understand that you don't miss with such tight spread even on MIDRANGE. Only 5 Pellets of 8 need to hit Light to kill, thanks to the ridiculous spread it does still at 20 meters...
https://youtu.be/l2mnBZmT7xg?si=8__NPWBJyqOQ22bp&t=43

[grizzled hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/spongeboomer-keep-yapping-buddy-yapper-spongebob-meme-squidiot-box-gif-12016722146058138836

[river plover]

Sometimes you get things like rewards/ ranked progress at the end of the match after.
If you remember losing a ranked match lately thats prob why

[stray rampart]

I didn't changed my account and I did all that, no luck

Thank you for trying to help tho

[weary forge]

I can’t think of a time a heavy one shot surprised me with rpg just from their loud ass and slower paced footsteps but in some situations near a cashout or from afar it has happened. Feel more like a rng thing tho to hit me from afar, again that heavy player could be a god.

[severe wave]

Embark pls make a console only crossplay option aswell. Console finals is dying at an insane rapid pace. I love the game but finding games these days is aking too long i dont even wanna start about finding mates. So many good players left the game its crazy pls embark dont kill your own game 15k player peak on steam aint it aswell. Start marketing your game, start with some small tournaments and pay streamers to play in it. Just do something or season there will be only 10k people playing............

[twin heart]

Yes i know its very impressive how these stationary target dummies die in this video but actual players aren't stationary targets so with the tight spread you can easily miss a shot completely. Use the shitting weapon a little against some semi-decent players and see how "free" it is with its "oppressive" range.

[crimson crag]

Add something new to spend out vr's on

[quick coyote]

BRING BACK THE CLOSED BETA SLIDE. combat becomes very stale, especially with this ttk (not implying the ttk needs changing). I really like how the finals has a sandbox approach to things but the sandbox aspect definitely lacks in face to face combat. Also more airstrafe control would be nice as well as being able to crouch mid air for hurtbox compression. The new (post cb) movement system feels very unresponsive and sluggish. Please more ground to air momentum conservation. Client side movement, reducing or removing jumpsquat frames, and making chain jumps eat less of your momentum away. Also increase the mantle animation speed as well as add a crosshair indicator or smth for a mantle-able object. omnidirectional sprint and slide as well. Remove the damage multi (i think 0.4x or smth) on unactivated mines, breaches or c4's. The pocket sand and cl40 mine stuff was nice but sad to see it gone, removing this was kind of a statement that the sandbox approach the game initially had is starting to fall apart. Nukes were honestly pretty cool (even as a light player), outright removing it was a bad play as it removed the "monkey ingenuity" aspect to the game linking back to what I said earlier about embark and the sandbox approach to the finals

The game lacks movement on all classes on all classes, especially light (light=sans where low hp but good dodging to make up for it, simultaneously the highest and lowest theoretical hp pool). maybe some xdef stuf as well as wall kicking would be nice, nothing like titanfall 2 or anything, just something to give the players another dimension of control during fights. In a head on 1v1, whoever aims the best wins, but if movement was introduced it would allow for players to also use it to dodge enemy fire.

Make the game WAYYY more stressful. i want it to feel more like i'm actually there, the trailers have communicated that but the game so far hasnt shown that. more crowd engagements.

EMBARK STOP LISTENING TO THE WHINERS

[tropic egret]

I keep thinking when are we gonna get another 1 of that steal a cashbox 15 times challenge. It's so dumb here i am clearing the point only for some other guy to grab the cashbox, and you can't even get mad because he/she is playing the game in the way it's meant to be played 😂

[foggy orbit]

I don't understand why you're still trying to nerf cloak, from a melee players perspective, you're already making it much harder than it needs to be for no reason. Cloak is overly used with ranged weapons but your nerfs don't serve to tackle the issue. You say it's too increase the skill ceiling, but how is it? All you're doing is slowing down the pace of cloak and nobody benefits.

Cloak already has plenty of counterplay, being very easily heard when entering cloak, moving while cloaked, and decloaking. As well as cloak being able to spotted quite easily if you're aware of the general direction it's coming from.

If I were to rework cloak, I would lean more into utility and have it be used less offensively. I would make it so cloak provides true invisibility but keeping the audio aspects in there so movement with cloak is still able to be deducted.

I would make it so the slower your movement, the harder it is to hear, and while standing still (as it currently is) you're completely silent. To offset the buffs I mentioned, I would prevent ranged weapons and gadgets from being able to be shoot or be used when cloaked, then add a small decloak delay of around 200 - 500 milliseconds so that decloaking at a bad time or in a bad position would be much easier to punish, as well as not being able this would also solve the issue people have with stun gun and cloak, since you have to come out of cloak to utilize, putting you at greater risk.

@terse lark

[round flame]

I think there a solid points why it should be traversable but there shouldn’t be any cash out on it. Everyone can so easily third party this from anywhere on the map its not a good thing.

[drifting pawn]

someone explain how. right most guy is plat 1, other 2 of us are plat 2. you would think the loss would impact the plat 1 harder than the lower ranked ones

[hardy charm]

Has anyone else been getting falsely banned, my brother who prolly has a negative KD got banned for Apparently using unfair software. He has a lot of skins bought and is not that good but got banned? What do we do?

[fervent vortex]

Nah brother In low elo sure but in high elo it’s gotten to a point that we have to manually ban the Cashout there because it’s unpushable

[foggy orbit]

Can we buff some of the weaker stuff? Don't nerf stuff based on pick rate.

• Throwing Knives

• Remove accuracy penalty when sprinting, sliding, jumping, or strafing.

• Allow the secondary attack to be held.

• Dagger

• Reduce the time it takes to perform a backstab from 700ms -> 400ms

• Increase backstab damage from 320 -> 350

• Allow the backstab to be charged and held while sprinting and/or cloaked.

• SH1900

• Increase damage per pellet from 10 -> 11

• Decrease pellet spread.

• Riot Shield

• Increase melee range from 2.5m -> 3.5m

• Allow baton hits to glitch contestants for 1.5s.

• Flamethrower

• Add a secondary attack that launches the ammo canister forward similar to a red canister, dealing damage that scales with the amount of ammo you had in reserve, explodes on impact to provide destruction capabilities as well as setting the area on fire. Splash damage is weak requiring direct hits to deal potent damage.

• Flashbang

• Deafen effect retains maximum strength regardless of the angle.

• Increase the duration of the deafen effect from 2.5s -> 6s

• Glitch Trap

• Can be equipped on the heavy archetype.

• Increase trigger radius from 1.5m -> 3m

• Increase effect radius from 4.5m -> 6m

• Motion Sensor

• Increase detection range from 4m -> 6m

• Contestants within range are continuously detected until they have left the area of effect or destroyed the motion sensor.

• Smoke Grenade

• Can be equipped on all archetypes.

• Add a property that makes you and your team immune to all forms of detection while inside the smoke cloud.

• Fix smoke visibility bug when shadows are set to low or medium.

@smoky gust Most of your points start with I'm not sure, so you're not really giving me anything to work with when it comes to a discussion, I'd be happy to discuss my thoughts and opinions and reasoning in #💣┇weapons-gadgets

[cyan void]

ok actually the 100m challenge isn't so bad once you really start playing like a degenerate. I've been able to get 1k+ damage by just going to the furthest part of the map from the platform/enemy spawn. Still fking wild that so little of my damage even at that range is above 100m somehow. I mean you're still completely sabotaging your team, this challenge wasn't well thought out at all (especially how I have 4k but my friend has 1k????) but back when I was playing only half-degenerate and triyng to be even slightly usefl to my team I thought this was as bad as the Win A Tournament Also We Removed Unranked Tournaments Kek challenge

[opaque prism]

I think the last cashout needs to be nerfed from 22k to 20k I think its very unfair for your team to do everything right during the match just to get screwed over by a team that did absolutely nothing the whole match just for them to steal it last second.

[drifting gorge]

POV: challenges that force you to play like a piece of garbage

[hollow badger]

stickers on turret

[smoky gust]

I already voiced my concerns on someof those, so i wont repeat them, but there are a few other things id like to mention

Im not sure if buffing the range of a melee weapon is a good idea
It would probably lead to situations where you litterally saw it miss you, but you still get hit due to extended range

And on smoke grenades, i actually like to run them with sonar grenades
I block the enemies view and then use a sonar so my team can still see
Can also be helpful when trying to deny a cashout steal, especially as light that dies quickly when found
Maybe if it only denies enemy sonar, but id really prefer it to stay as is
Maybe make the smoke thicker and the area it covers larger, so theres a lower chance of your shadows poking out?
Then it would also help when stealing/reviving since the enemy has to check more area

[foggy raptor]

Add some emotes in store that don’t require buying a whole bundle, ppl will literally spend more money that way embark plus u make ur players happier😉

[graceful hollow]

it's extremely random and inaccurate, my friends and I only play a few games a day cuz we found we just got sent down an elo loss spiral if we played too much

[terse lark]

idea for cloak rework:
decrease cloak activation cost to 1s and make cloak run out exponentially faster the longer you have it active. like if you are cloaked for longer than 4s your cloak resource drains something like 1.5x faster and after like 6s it drains the cloak resource 2.0x faster.
with a change like this a light could only stay cloaked for a max of 8s (this is the same amount of time as the current cloaking device without interruption).
the idea is to increase the skill floor to use cloak effectively. it punishes players for staying cloaked too long and rewards players for using cloak more sparingly, if you only stay cloaked for 4s at a time you can get an extra second out of your cloak. I feel the lower activation cost would make using cloak less annoying especially in the middle of fights, but still be more balanced and less annoying to play against compared to pre 2.5 cloak.

[silent cargo]

Allowing Muting of PIngs so friendly cannot spam it on my stream with what seems like keyboard macro amounts or maybe bound to mouse wheel idk.

[quick coyote]

Does anyone notice any desync issues with this game? It's been happening to me often lately and I don't have connection problems (cable anyway, not wi-fi)

[patent lake]

Deal 75000 structural damage to arenas using arena carriables is bugged 😭😭

[teal minnow]

Optimalize the game pls I crashed while loading to next round reconnected then after the match I get 3 arrows down? why did I get 3 arrows down if I reconnected? Rework the match leaving penalties. Love the game , Love the devs can't wait for next weeks patch tho

[gritty owl]

Hey guys. Is there something going on with the servers? I'm in que for over 13min now and this never happened to me before.

[past wasp]

we really need better customization settings for the crosshair

why can't I just use the center dot and get rid of the other visual clutter?

[worn sigil]

Did you seriously call Flamethrower weak?! Hahahaha

At minimum the burn damage is too high it needs to be nerfed.

[proven ibex]

@pearl kiln in next stream please explain how ranking actually works. It's been weeks n we all don't have any clue. No one has a solid theory on how it's working.

[drifting gorge]

Add Mahoraga to the game as an ult

[rough herald]

some of these are creazy but yeah they shouldd buff the weeker stuff

[manic sandal]

Hey, does anyone else have now issue with in game voice chat not working? I don't have even the voice icons visible

[past shale]

is anyone experiencing longer than normal wait time for Bank it?

[tawdry blaze]

Is 75k dmg with arena carriables bugged?

[supple oasis]

I think yes, because mine don't progress

[queen harness]

The finals is like any other team based shooter. Team play over anything and plays over everything.

You could be going 7-13 and still as long as you stop a cash out or depot a bunch of money u stole off a guy in bank it that’s all that matters.

Every ability in game has a sort of counter. Instead of outright nerfing cloak for light why not make glitch nades to dmg to people who are in cloak when it hits them? Or add an ability like sombras hack or something that hurts cloak obviously those aren’t the best ideas but something like that

Changes like that doesn’t outright make it useless like what they have done to it recently

Instead of outright making an ability useless why not make another ability or gadget better at combating it? So people who use said ability are still happy and the people who hate the ability now have something to combat it easier. Just a thought lmk what u think

[dense niche]

Guys, just directing you to the right place, but make sure to post it in #bug-discussion and also check in main channel or with support

[stuck trench]

I've said this before: Could have just given Medium thermal vision, and tried that before gutting it.

Remember how Embark tried making nukes balanced? Yeah idk why they didn't bother to at least try to do so with the cloak.

[unreal coral]

Hey Embark Games Team,

First off, gotta say, we're huge fans of your game. Seriously, it's our jam, our go-to for chilling out and having a blast with friends. But, there are a few things kinda bugging us lately that we gotta chat about.

So, let's talk about those lobbies. Man, they've been acting up big time. We're getting kicked out left and right, and sometimes it feels like we're stuck in limbo waiting for things to load up. Not cool when all we wanna do is jump straight into the action.

And those graphic bugs? Woah, they're like something out of a horror movie. We're seeing weird stuff happening on screen, and don't even get me started on the FPS drops every 2 seconds.It's like playing in slow motion sometimes, totally kills the vibe.

Plus, what's up with not being able to get our friends into the game? We're all about squad goals, but it's a real downer when half the crew can't even join the party.

Look, we're not trying to hate on the game or anything. We just wanna see it reach its full potential 'cause we love it so much. Fixing these issues would make a world of difference and keep us coming back for more epic gaming sessions.

Hope you guys can hook us up and get things back on track. Keep up the good work, and let's make this game even better together.

[fervent vortex]

Brother first the Seoul take then this, you need to drop the talking stick lmao cause your brain dead

[worn sigil]

You're just a troll at this point, skill issue? I'm agreeing with you Seoul is hard to push?

A flamethrower is the #1 weapon power shift and a great combo with mesh shields? How is this me being brain dead?

Furthermore the Seoul take is again subjective given how you push it, meaning solely depends on your gadgets being chosen. Lights with portals, medium with jump-pad & zip.

@crits you haven't brought anything to the conversation why are you trolling? Then again you have Gengar as a pic so it's a given.

[vocal cave]

💀 theres no way ur a human being

@worn sigil theres nothing to bring to a braindead take, if u think flamethrower is OP you just aren't good at the game and thats okay

[graceful slate]

Rocket launcher should be a full utility gadget rather than a damage one. It should let heavy rocket jump along with being a tool to destroy structures. Give it two rockets and then it deals a max of 50 damage per rocket. Trust.

[drifting pawn]

'This means that some of you might still be "stuck" with the "Deal XXXX damage from a distance of 100 meters or more"-contract if you had already began making progress on it. We will keen an eye on how this contract progresses, and change it if needed in a coming update.' yea... I'ma need you guys to go ahead and change it, it's needed. I put in 100 damage towards that one and I don't see me being able to finish it. Not a sniper player. I play with my team.

[sudden spire]

It's hard to report people for quiting because they leave the social menu and then I have to remember thier name until the end of the match so I can find it in the huge list of recent players (which I think should be organized better)

[crisp bobcat]

bro what? i get that dying to flamethrower is frustrating but like just stay distanced and dont be an idiot and you can kill them easy as hell. The only value flamethrower has is damage in a small area to multiple people with DoT burn effect. if you nerf it then why even keep it in the game. theres a reason you dont see a lot of flamethrower heavies when you get into diamond and above

second point - all of you guys saying 'fix anti cheat' or whatever variation of it - do you think the more you say that in here is gonna make embark able to fix it? If they were ABLE to do it that easily it wouldve been done. You want to combat cheaters? start recording evidence and submit it. Tired of you guys crowding the chat with it. yes. its frustrating. it sucks - one of the worst things is playing well all game only to lose in 3rd/final round to someone headshot locking or shooting through shields etc. But this is not helping. If you dont capture evidence of cheaters for all embark knows you're just crying bc someone better than you happened to hit good shots - it happens (unless its nothing but headshots from across the galaxy lol). }

TLDR: stop spamming this channel with 'fix anti cheat' etc. and get evidence if you think someones cheating

[young drift]

fix anti cheat pls bruz, oce dead que, now asia with hackers plague i love this game i dont want to quit

[broken shore]

please bring back tournaments

[raven jacinth]

still waiting the anti cheat system to work, diamond lobby are gangrened by them...

[zenith scarab]

Please consider adding 3 more contestant slots

@upper citrus fr

[green coral]

Flame thrower can be mitigated by keeping distance - really easy to do as light.

[jagged cedar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1166607793277636719/1169709506826088559/360-flammer.gif?ex=655663de&is=6543eede&hm=0ca9b63402718d3715941257df748953d8ee6d0b763df96246ca5b3cdeeb3627&

[crisp coral]

Explain how the flamethrower which requires baso no skill does so that heavy damage joke

[upper citrus]

its so funny how if a gun isnt a hitscan rifle people just say it takes no skill

[thick sorrel]

Again, if u miss a shot, skill issue. Counts for every weapon.
What's so difficult to understand?

[dry raft]

Flame thrower is a new meta actually. They can defend easy on objectives if they are playing with 2 mediums heals + barricade and aps turret and just camp a spot. You just can't try to kill them as a light

[tawdry owl]

Once you finish the battle pass and reach max level all sense of progression goes out the window.

Weapon XP:
I think weapon levels are fine as they are but personally they don't serve as enough to make me feel like I'm progressing to anything because of how long it takes to get enough XP. Maybe you could get a bonus for completing contracts while using a weapon or gain extra XP for things like multikills or kill streaks.

Battle Pass:
I love the change of making later tiers cost more but still, its only around half way through the season and I've fully completed it. I think bonus tiers like in Overwatch where you get something just as a badge to say you went the extra mile would be really good. This should probably require close to completing every weekly challenge in the season.

Account level:
Just uncap the level. I don't care if I'm not earning more items, I just want something to represent the effort I've put into the game across all of the seasons.
Maybe there could be more items added to it but they could take a few levels to reach like 5 or 10 levels between items instead of one every level.

Weekly challanges:
The only issue with them is that they feel less important once you've finished the battle pass and I can't be bothered to do them for a pair of white shoes. (Ill do them eventually but not because I want to.) I think the other changes I've suggested to the battle pass would fix this.

Ranked:
I don't think your rank should be considered an aspect of progression since its nothing more than a visualisation of your skill which would be improving anyway. It helps but its not enough on its own, especially for casual players (though most of my points aren't too geared towards casual players)

[woven briar]

Just here to ask for mouse and keyboard back on console, please and thank you. Input match making, mayyyyybe?

[broken yarrow]

hey embark can you fix your challenges ?????

[grizzled canopy]

Day 22 of asking nothing but medieval bundles 🙏

[worn sigil]

@vocal cave @fervent vortex @crisp bobcat
I understand all your opinions on the flamethrower but I believe you're all misinterpreting mine. Yes I find it frustrating to die against Flamethrower but that doesn't mean I'm bad at the game? KEKW

@crisp bobcat You could say there's a reason you don't see a lot of weapons in diamond and above for all classes? It's like many games, do you buff and nerf depending on casual play or ranked play? Embark has added certain weapons it looks like to never be played in ranked. I believe the flamethrower is one of these.

@crits I never said the Flamethrower is OP? I'm talking about the flamethrowers burn damage needing a nerf after killing the heavy not the overall damage? Just getting hit once as a light can kill you sometimes, I've seen plenty of gameplay on it and it has been done against me.
Yes you can dodge it but not everyone plays dash etc.. and, not everyone wants to keep playing the meta medium heavy.

Also I'm not talking about flamethrower in regards to ranked, I'm talking about in general. Quick Cash, PowerShift, everyone's huddled all together half the time (again situational).

@broken shore 🤣

Overall I'm talking about slightly lowering Flamethrowers afterburn damage after I have killed a Heavy.. not it's actually damage.

[lavish shard]

Remove sbmm
Stop nerfing light just the stungun
Add option crossplay ps5/xbox

[jagged cedar]

I think a heavy doing this with a flamethrower is worse off than a heavy doing this with half the other heavy weapons

[slim sun]

Map creator ?

[toxic shadow]

remove snipers from the game theyre dogshit in ranked and obnoxious at best in casual, theyre a horribly designed mess in any game they touch

[plain fable]

It does not feel good to be forced to play power shift to complete the weekly, especially when one of the challenges doesn’t even work, again.

[upper citrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1166607793277636719/1169709506826088559/360-flammer.gif

[gusty wagon]

yes increase performance pls

[weak yew]

game is pretty fun just need some balancing

[quick coyote]

flamethrower is weak, its only remotely viable in powershift because heavies can deal damage to targets before hand using RPG so he can finish them off with the weapon. im almost never losing any 1v1 with a heavy flamethrower because his damage is too low, he's pretty much dead before he can finish me off. even when he deals damage first lol

[blazing loom]

If you’re able to buy a brook converter, it might work on your console. It won’t get you banned because even good amount of console players use for fighting games. Like even a tournament like EVO uses it which hosts hundreds of people to compete

[stuck ocean]

Cosmetics patch instead of fixing issues and listening to several similar feedbacks. Good, very good keep going. And 1 game of out 10 without at least one cheater. Amazing. Keep up the g(reed)ood work there. 👌💪🤣

[woven briar]

Yyyeah, that’s not how it should be handled. That sounds like a sure way to get banned. Lol
I get why console players turn off cross play- they can’t compete with mouse and keyboard players. Hence why input match making would be the best option. Keeps controller players, nice comfy and fun. While us m&k players sweat the night away.

[worn sigil]

Yeah I'm not saying they're not hard to kill. I'm saying when they are killed, the afterburn damage is too much.

When I get hit once after killing the heavy, I get hit with 50-100 damage from the afterburn as I'm stealing. That's far too much IMO.

I'm good with everything else about the flamethrower. A very fun weapon to use.

[crystal umbra]

Here is a post on Reddit I saw, I copied and pasted it here:

Title: "The Finals is dying" videos are a big problem"

Body: "When people hear of a game and think of trying it, i bet many of them look it up on youtube to see what it's about especially for non-story games. Now guess what do you see for titles and thumbnails when searching for the finals on youtube? If i saw that before downloading the game i might have changed my mind and there is probably many people who already got affected by that. The videos make a negative self fulfilling prophecy, and Embark can only do so much so we need as a community to create hype for this fantastic game that really deserves it and we might see it growing."

---

I'll be a bit blatant here. If their are people funding the game and are affecting how the game is being developed, it is likely that they are affecting the way the games popularity is growing.

Anyways, I am deeply concerned that this game is loosing steam as far as on boarding new players.

Anybody who gives the finals a real try never puts it down but there are some "CORE FEATURES" that are not in the have yet which will make stand out even more and cause the game to blow up.

I have so many free ideas for the devs, but I'm sure they don't have the staff to implement them.

If we can create go fund me's so we can hire more people on temporarily/permanently to increase development of the game I will give you my money for that specifically.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

[quick coyote]

The lewis gun recoil is way too much wtf, WHY?! Reduce it back

[green coral]

As a non-heavy main, Flamethrower doesn't need any nerfing whatsoever. It's at a perfectly fine point balance-wise. If you find yourself dying to flamethrower heavies more often than not, I'm apt to say that this is due to the lack of an applied strategy that isn't being followed, not that the weapon itself is inherently overpowered or underbalanced.

[cedar forum]

flamethrower is realistic, doesn't need any nerfs, you would die the same way irl too, that's why it's a war crime to use it in war now

[fervent vortex]

The only thing that is aids about the flamethrower is the mine combo which I doubt you know, also it’s a fucking flame thrower how else do you balance it besides buffing dps, unless you play meele it’s forever shit

[willow leaf]

He didn’t get any kills because he sucked and was playing sword in rank. The other light got 6 kills. Cloak is a horrible ability that isn’t fun to play as or play against. The light class shouldn’t ONLY be useful when playing a cheesy ability. They should buff the light in other ways like increasing health or increasing dps or something else that doesn’t result in forcing the player to play a specific loadout cause that’s dumb and bad game design

[dense niche]

We're aware of it friend, but make sure to post on #1201841543926005810 #bug-discussion.

[glossy cypress]

I love the finals but there is one thing. I think we should be able to put on more stickers on weapons/gadgets instead of being limited to only one sticker per weapon/gadget.

[formal hull]

For several weeks now, every time we try to play Rankeds it is an ordeal, because the minimum waiting time is 15 minutes to search for a game. We have to find a solution to that.

[mild verge]

should totally add a mortar based turrent for heavys

[jolly roost]

Listen, I'm not saying people don't bring up valid ideas and concerns, I'm gonna repeat some of them too, but there's just so much pointless bickering about the smallest of things that don't really matter. I wanted to shed some light on the truly most important issues.

1. PERFORMANCE: the performance in this game is very bad. No idea why people don't bring it up, it's the number 1 reason why I stopped playing this game. I used to have a stable framerate of around 110fps during the beta, now it's down to a very, very unstable 60. It's legit getting worse and worse and worse each week with every update. Even when playing on GeForce Now with a 4090 RTX, where Doom Eternal reaches 400 fps - yes, FOUR HUNDRED fps - The Finals is sometimes struggling with 100, dipping down to 85. It's terrible for a fast paced FPS to stutter this much. The loading times are just absurd - every 3rd match takes close to 2 or 3 minutes to load, it also often crashes/freezes during loading screens. Since March, I also started to notice the netcode getting worse and my character often dying a good few meters behind corners.

2. THE GUNPLAY: have you ever wondered why the gunplay feels so off in this game? Of course, there's bad balancing and Tarkov-like recoils in an arcady Apex-y class shooter. As everyone said already, a ton of weapons needs to be buffed and the recoil patterns reverted to a much more tolerable state, cause right now there's maybe like a single gun on 2 out of the 3 classes that's actually fun to use. But wait, there's more! Did you know that your sights/crosshair don't actually show you where the bullets are going to hit? Yes, that's right. This issue existed for years and it wasn't fixed. Bullets always come from the middle of your screen, no matter what's happening. Which means your crosshair/sights actually make you miss. It's an insane oversight, I can't put into words how much worse the game is because of it.

[ivory sail]

How do I get permission to post a bug report?

[dense niche]

You need to be level 1, so after 35 messages you level up. If you cant post in bug-reports, please use bug-discussion

[obsidian solar]

Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many possibilities! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, on the other hand i've barely seen any Light using smoke, especially when they have better gadgets to choose from

[weary forge]

Every weapon? What about the sniper… I’m just sayin if we don’t count ease of use than the ak and sniper have goofy insane dmg

[pseudo breach]

Day 29 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

[young minnow]

I take back what i said matchmaking is still bad

[dense jay]

ok, so pro circuit week 3 can kiss my A, 100meters seems a tad bs. for the pro circuit mission. especially when your hitting headshots from 120 meters and its not registering

[thorn ermine]

FIX YOUR SUPPORT IT IS TRASH

[swift skiff]

Remove snipers

[fervent vortex]

Why do people care it’s just challenges, just play the video game

[smoky gust]

think of it like building a fence

an unpainted fence will do the job just fine
but most want it to look pretty and have some fun building it

[quick coyote]

A suggestion.. add decimals to the sensitivity instead of sliders
Like 7.5 or 8.11 instead of just 8 or 7.. this will allow players to get their desired sensitivity easily
Or atleast allow us to change it through config.. like it’s so dumb having a slider as your sensitivity modifier in a competitive game

[arctic tartan]

Bro skill issue if you are blaming them for not finding one sensitivity out of 100 with million different DPI configurations😂

[thorn kelp]

@rare spear

Hey Embark,

I've been enjoying The Finals a lot and I've come to the conclusion that this game has one of the best OST's in any shooter game I've played (probably cuz it's also made by a music studio). I have a really great quality of life suggestion that I have in mind. Since Season 2 will eventually end and I won't be able to jam out to the awesome tracks you amazing developers put so much effort towards this season while load up the game or que up for a match, I suggest that there should be a jukebox or a music selector where you can change your in-game lobby music or que music. In my opinion, I think this would allow for a lot of personal customization especially as the seasons progress and more and more music gets added to the game. It is understandable if this cannot be done as many shooters don't allow this option. Thank you devs for being so responsive with the community. Love you all and the contestants

Have a wonderful rest of your day everyone

[mild verge]

maybe dont suspend people and let them back in there game if they disconecct like why am i punished for your bad system

[junior temple]

Just wanna shoutout the team cause this is the best FPS Sandboxes I've played since Battlefield 4. I know not every goofy loadout i try will get me to diamond but this is the only game where i can play like rambo with an m60 and RPG one match and spend the next match grappling around the map and stabbing people with a pencil

[copper garden]

fax

[near lotus]

Only game that crashes for me.

[thick sorrel]

@weary forge
I think you missed the whole story. I said Model 1887 is doing too well midrange and took comparison to KS-23. Watch this https://youtu.be/l2mnBZmT7xg?si=TsaOKEOr-PURYqGW&t=43
3 shot M close range, 2 Shot L midrange...

[upper ruin]

MORE CONTESTANT SLOTS OR STYLE PRESETS PLEASSE

[stray rampart]

Yeah facing a lot of crashes since last couple patches

[copper lark]

buff the weak

[pseudo breach]

The hit registration in this game is horrible as fuck

[hybrid zinc]

blatent qp cheaters my fucking sides this game is shit

[worn sigil]

I already said I understand your argument, all I want is the afterburn damage reduced slightly after I already killed the heavy, I don't want to burn for a further 50-100 health after I got the kill.

[fleet sedge]

The one thing I would change with the sword would be to change the hand the contests hold it with. This could apply to all wepons too.

[fervent vortex]

Fair enough

[vale acorn]

They snapshot hipfire with impeccable accuracy, prefire indoors even

[hallow eagle]

Ranked system is terrible

[uneven quiver]

Make ranked tournaments 1 light, 1 medium, and 1 heavy to force some variety in play style

[dense niche]

Hey friend, please report in-game through the Social menu or to Support https://id.embark.games/support.

[timber venture]

I would rather end it all

[hollow badger]

what if top #500 ranked players got a sticker that shows their placement by the end of a season, like a #1 player got a sticker wit #1 on it, and so on.

[junior temple]

Forgot to mention earlier. I love the soundtrack and an option to pick the music from different seasons would be dope

[gusty wagon]

again defib invincibility right after being defib revived needs to be removed. defibbed bodies should not act as cover either, is this a bug or is this actually intended? healing beam is also too strong.

[quaint jetty]

Ranked system is shit

[versed cloud]

Why am I only getting 1 arrow up despite making it to round 3? Big waste of time if you don't make it to the finals

[unreal vortex]

Amazing feedback, I like the part where you elaborated constructively

[pseudo relic]

Hey, what the best way "Deal 4,000 from a distance of 100 meters or more"?

[weary forge]

Oh yea 1887 shoty feels like the broken middle ground between the heavy’s slug shotgun and ease of the lights double barrel, just a fast ttk with good consistency (for a shotgun) and it’s easy to use. The best shotgun but not the best gun because it is obviously a shotgun so it only catches u lacking up close-mid range.

[quick coyote]

Why tf do I have to sit through a whole ranked match, when I have a teammate who decided to be a bitch and quit?! I’m tired of dealing w these people goddamn

[halcyon depot]

The power shift is really bad.
The maps and the routes the platforms take are all bad.
Is it especially bad when the platform moves in the air without footholds, which is crazy?
Even if the platform passes through the air and goes to the next building, the footing is so poor that it is rare to be able to retake it.
There is something on the circuit that requires a power shift, so I have no choice but to do it, but once the necessary conditions are met, I won't do a power shift anymore.

[soft sable]

building damage is borked. Don't know why you keep using this style of challenge. It never works.

[willow leaf]

This game would be better without medium class

[cosmic igloo]

The matching time is too long toooooo long atleast add a lobby while searching for matches or even open the practice range.
Waiting for 10-20 mins to play a 10 min match is really frustrating. I usually stop playing because of this.
Cross play enabled and region is automatic

[patent thunder]

Game have changed to much. As a player I could not keep it up that which weapon has more damage, how can I survive against lights vs. Please make it stable experience. Sometimes I do not want to play no more

[supple oasis]

I've just got killed by a mine... on a reanimation figurine of a mate... and it explodes because I picked up this figurine... nice game...

[timber violet]

This may be something small, but if you go to equipment and then click on the sr-84 it says on the right above the name " Melee Weapon/ Light". dont think that is right😂

[compact anvil]

My game is stuck in que it’s been searching for a game for 10 minutes on power shift before I waited for 8 in cash out is this a normal glitch? I don’t see anything to do with servers being down.

[silent cargo]

THREE in a row plz fix whatever this is

[young widget]

i hope the game feeds me back

[elder birch]

Can we get a cosmetic set inspired by Kirito from sword art online please 🥹?

[ornate ferry]

YESSSSS PLEASEEEE

[daring fossil]

started working on weeklies last night, then they were swapped today and I got this lol

[wintry oyster]

Why is the indication when someone kills you purple? That is so irritating, especially when there is a purple team in the round. Please just make it blue or any color that is not already used for enemies

[halcyon depot]

Being able to stick mine-like gadgets directly on dead player statues is bad.
Well, in this case it doesn't necessarily mean that the landmine will go off, but the act of attaching a landmine to a statue itself feels as insidious as shooting dead bodies.
If a player who comes to revive the team is killed by a land mine near a statue of his team, it can be assumed that the rescue player may have been careless, but...

[willow leaf]

Don’t be a baby. That mechanic is completely fine and you can very easily just avoid the mines

[quick coyote]

Harsher punishment for players who leave ranked teammates!!!

[placid panther]

JUST BALANCE SOME SHIT FFS and yes this is my feedback

[pearl pelican]

Please, sniper light i so annoying in casual game mods, especially the thing with the moving cart. My diamond lobbies are more enjoyable and less stressful then this shit.

Also please buff the ak, not the damage, not fire rate, not the magazine. Just give it a damn scope, same for the other weapons where half of your view is blocked while aiming. Its so stupid and thats why no one uses it in ranked.

[jade solstice]

agree about the OST. Insane.

[twin lava]

it would be good to have a scope but then it would be a bit op because it got more bullits than the Fcar

[dense niche]

#⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[night glen]

Good thing the Arena Damage challenge is broken so it does not count the damage you are doing. I threw 30'ish red tubes at buildings before I noticed I was not getting ANY credit for the damage. Good job keeping things working DEVs. 😐

[warm epoch]

is there a reason spawns are worse than beforehand? feels like it shouldn't be that difficult of a fix

[supple oasis]

yes, that's what I have in mind, and @willow leaf, we're not babies, in the action, I take the statue without looking at

[quick coyote]

i love the akm iron sights tho

[river plover]

noone uses it in ranked because the FCAR is a direct upgrade
If FCAR gets nerfed the AKM will see way more use

[pseudo breach]

🤔 So you want a feature removed because you're not paying attention?

[olive fulcrum]

imo ppl who use Fcar don't know how to have fun. I pity them really. :)

This feedback channel is an absolute cesspool. Imagine how much harder Embark's player feedback division has to work because many player's are actually giving horrible erroneous feedback. Oh dear...

[novel crane]

I’ll have you know I have lots of fun curb stomping babies and raising rent for single mothers

[limber ingot]

have stable 90-100 fps with rtx 3070 and ryzen 5 3600 lmao game is fine something is def wrong with ur setup

[sturdy heron]

hi please stop temp banning me when your servers crash and wrecking my ranked score in accordance with the ban ty bye

[pliant lion]

Can you PLEASE fix the defib revive rematerializing animation blocking bullets? It's cost me multiple ranked wins at this point and it's absolutely infuriating. Defibs are already strong, but having impenetrable cover to hide behind while your teammate almost instantly comes back is just plain stupid

[woeful trout]

Same

[azure spire]

Why do I have to do 12k damage with the shitest guns for the pro circuit 😭 Change this, give everyone the same guns for these contracts instead of having it randomized? Im throwing all my games because Im forced to use guns that SUCK compared to others or matched against them.
My main doesnt even have the weapons I need for the contract, not one 🥹

[halcyon depot]

I also say that this does not necessarily mean that landmines will be activated.
However, what I'm concerned about is the way the game is made in which someone can attach mine-type gadgets directly to the statues of the dead.
It feels like an act close to shooting a corpse, and I feel disgusted.
I've seen a whole team of three people stick mine-type gadgets on a statue, and it's no different than torturing a corpse.

[snow panther]

I guess Embark is standin on bidness... all you guys are going to be left with is heavy and medium mains. I havent played since the cloak nerf i can use any other class perfectly well but im just sick of this game listening to shit boxes who have complained this game into the ground.

[wintry oyster]

I seriously dont understand the ranked matchmaking. How is it that I, a gold 1 are in a que with my friends (gold 1 and silver 3) and our opponents are minimum plat 2 up to diamond 2. there are 75% of matches where i dont have any gold nor low plat in the enemy teams. just hig plat and diamond

[sleek silo]

me too man ist horible

[nova veldt]

Nerf heavies dash, it shouldnt do 350 dmg on same target

[willow leaf]

@supple oasis lol that’s literally your fault just pay attention
@halcyon depot you made me laugh with this post so thanks. You probably agreed with the Red Cross that teabagging was a war crime lol. Imagine caring so much about players in a video game

[north gulch]

Medium heal beam could use less capacity so it overheats quicker

[still crater]

Tasers are still too overpowered

[stuck trench]

I haven't played since then either. Holding out for a sliver of hope for a revert or a buff to the cloak

[zinc carbon]

Take more time for the next season and release more weapons and maps, and more time to balence the next game mode

[twin cave]

Would be nice if the matchmaking knew I play the objective but also get kills so it puts me with teammates that do too (or at least they actually try), played like 4 consecutive matches where I’m the only one doing so, especially in Power Shift, matchmaking can make the matches stale or pointless currently 🫠

[night glen]

I would really like to know why these challenges that take a VERY LONG TIME are even a thing in this game.... Like "Steal 15 cashouts" ... while it can be done it is just annoying and a cause of frustration while playing the game. Challenges should be relatively easy, so it gets people playing with the different aspects of the game... making them take so much time causes people to resent the DEVs and get too frustrated with the game... get some smart people-people on the development team... you only seem to have programmers with no people skills

[wintry oyster]

@night glen I don't actually think that the length of the challenges are the problem but the picked challenges themselves. Some are just tedious, like doing loads and loads of grenade damage. Or I remember this one time where i had the challenge to win a tournament, but it was at the point where tournaments were already only ranked. So the game basically said: please win a tournament in ranked even if you are at your peak rank performance and are happy if you even win one knockout round

[halcyon depot]

That's right, the Arena Damage challenge doesn't count.
Even if a building is destroyed by a red or orange throw and an explosion, the count is zero and it doesn't count at all.
I have no idea what that means. If it's just a bug, I wonder if the developers will fix it.
If the developers don't fix it, everything we've broken so far will be wasted.

[placid hazel]

IF I QUEUE IN RANKED AND DONT GET A THIRD WHY DO I LOSE POINTS

[robust prawn]

there needs to be an auto fill for ranked play like in casual, it would be a major life improvement

[drifting gorge]

Buff FCAR plz, also nerf cloak again it's too OP

(For legal reasons, I'm stating that this is a joke)

[quick coyote]

You can.

[fleet socket]

Add a option to favorite skins so they appear at the top of the list and a option to randomize between favorite skins every game

[still crater]

So personally, I think the automated turret is really overpowered but way I would change the turret is by instead of it being automated have it be manned and it would incorporate traits from each classes expertise like the medium has an accurate machine gun. The light has an accurate sniper and the heavy has destruction, like an RPG or 50 Cal

[violet elbow]

there is literally people with 300+ hours in plat 1 hard cheating and they arent getting banned, its just mind boggling imo

[daring fossil]

you can, if you leave the match immediately after it ends it warns you about abandoning but you still see the xp screen

[shadow stirrup]

making cheating allowed. it would have the same effect as thecurrent effort going into anti-cheat

[tawny geyser]

fix game

[violet solstice]

OMG leave things alone & stop whining about everything. Putting mines on statues has been a thing forever & is a strategic play to slow down the other team & stop them from res'in one of their team. If u think thats a warcrime then how do u feel about me because I dont have mines so I throw Gas canisters/nades or fire canisters/nades at statues to stop em being res'd lol. Theres nothing wrong with this game mechanic/strategy & never has been. Stop whining about everything for the love of God. You are whining all the fun out of the game FFS!!!!! @supple oasis

[timber dove]

Please get rid of melee aim assist. Actually more of a hinderance than a help.

[halcyon depot]

Putting mines on statues has been a thing forever & is a strategic play to slow down the other team & stop them from res'in one of their team.

[bitter tangle]

DAY 28 OF ASKING FOR A GRAPHICAL PERFORMANCE MODE!

Both console and PC need this imo to maximize FPS and get rid of those annoying frame drops!

• They can lower down shadow quality which will heavily help out performance especially since it is on unreal engine
• texture quality can be lowered down, works for most games
• tesselation can be lowered or even remove, it takes a massive hit on performance
• clouds and background buildings can be removed, smaller render distance for unneccesary objects

[white socket]

pro circuit stage 3 "deal 75,000 structural damage to arenas using arena carriables" doesnt work at all

[drowsy stump]

Still no reply from the support team and still no explanation as to what error code TFLA0013. Good luck contacting anyone to figure anything out or even get it fixed. I’ve been trying every day twice a day. Love it how there are people who can’t even play the game and yet all I ever see are people complaining about little stuff. Dude my F-ing game doesn’t even launch. I’m on Xbox so I’m not a cheater use factory Xbox s and factory controller.

[normal ferry]

Please try to make a game mode that caters to casuals also the game is very buggy where it randomly crashes the severs seem to just not work and it’s just a mess

[orchid veldt]

I’ve been stuck at gold 1 for a week now. I am doing really good I can’t rank up

[willow leaf]

This game needs more game modes!

[plush shell]

I suggest updating the game engine to 5.4 in a future patch, as well as updating all available upscaling solutions to newer versions like DLSS to 3.7.0, XeSS to 1.3, and FSR to 3.1 (when that version gets released in the upcoming few weeks). UE 5.4 brings more optimizations which make the performance better and that should improve the general game experience for people in combination with the updated better upscalers. Also, add DirectStorage api to improve loading, there are times where all players are stuck to a loading screen for the match due to singular users with slower machines, and DiSto can eliminate/lower that.

[hybrid cliff]

can we get a better rank system that wont penalize you at all if you have less than 3 players for more than 50% of the time? I went down two arrows with only 2 players most of the game.

[marsh dew]

Ok, hear me out...I know this mode would be chaos, but it might also be fun. Basically a cross between Power Shift and Bank It.

Simply put a cashout box in the middle of the platform in Power Shift. Each kill results in coins that can be deposited into the cashbox. The more money one side has, the faster the platform goes their way. So even if one side gets the platform, they still need to scramble for kills to get the platform moving back their way.

And to prevent people from simply hiding so others can't get their coins, there can be cash boxes that appear nearby from time to time. Maybe these cash boxes will have more money the farther away the platform gets. That way, there's still a chance for the other team to come back.

I know, it has its flaws, but could be a fun mode if balanced correctly.

[glossy panther]

I agree in fact dead players shouldn't drop statues they should ascend to the sky to respect their death, it is horrible that they drop statues on the dirty ground and get teabagged by other players and they put mines on them!!! omg im crying for these dead players

[prisma brook]

I'd love to see a system for player behavior ratings, similar to the one found in World of Tanks. Each day, every player would receive three tokens to comment on notable player behavior. These tokens could be gifted on different categories like excellent combat skill, team coordination, or game sense/outplaying people. Each player could track their notable behavior tokens received on their stats page. There could even be rewards for people who receive these tokens, such as those who receive good team coordination having a higher likelihood of being matched with other players who also received these tokens. It would incentivize players to communicate better and punish those who don't prioritize teamwork.

World of Tanks even has a token that can be gifted to enemy players: "formidible opponent".

[wide void]

That sounds like a lot of extra work to "fix" the "issue" with playing with randoms. Just queue with your friends if you want comms that bad. Matchmaking is screwed up enough as it is without having another variable thrown in, sorry.

[twin cave]

+1

Been saying this since season 1, some more classic modes like Dom, TDM etc would be pretty cool! Even if it’s a single mashup mode with those (to split less of the playerbase if needed)

[hollow barn]

-It is starting to cause frustration that playing solo queue matches you against premades that the coordination advantage is difficult to overcome with a team that also plays solo queue.
They need to prioritize matching solo players with solo players and premade with premades.

-Please review the spawns system. It doesn't follow any logic and leaves the games to luck. Sometimes you spawn far away having control of the charging station and sometimes close not having control of the charging station. It does not make sense.

Keep up the good work and make the finals great. Keep Cooking!

[smoky gust]

that might lead to toxicity from people excluding others in lfg based on tokens (think low tours in tf2 mvm)
could also be abused by friend groups that then just throw it at each other to farm it
and i think those that don't care about teamwork also wouldn't care too much about some tokens

i wouldn't want something like this

[halcyon depot]

Putting mines on statues has been a thing forever & is a strategic play to slow down the other team & stop them from res'in one of their team.

I know that. I've done it before.
And then I'm saying it's not good.

[gleaming bobcat]

It would be cool if in the duck and cover modifier the floating boxes with canisters were differently colored ducks.

[viral pulsar]

A Hardcore game mode would be cool

[viscid lichen]

idk if it's just me but "Deal 75,000 structural damage to arenas using arena carriables" contract isn't working.

[craggy monolith]

Has anyone complained about the new pro circuit challenges this week? specifically "Deal 4000 damage from 100 meters." I played a couple matches of power shift with sniper and after all of that i only managed to get 86 damage. I don't care if its a skill issue, that's extremely difficult to do for us casuals.

[wide void]

You can still revive a statue that has a mine on it. The mine will only blow up if you walk over the statue or try to carry the statue. Even then, you can shoot the mine off of it before doing either of those things. The only slightly problematic setup is the pyro mine, 'cause it sets the statue itself on fire.

If you can't cope with this of all gimmicks, you might want to try a different shooter, man.

[lament talon]

Nerfing everything wont make it better just worse. Same with heavy changes shouldve given light a passive or smt similar to make him more viable in tourneys.
H M L is hard meta in 1v1's currently t100 players run it all the time

[clear holly]

Same issue here.

[true cairn]

The games feels bad I have more fun playing OW 2 and that’s a bad thing the challenges are sometimes way too difficult like 15 steal of cash out it should be as team the amount of time where it’s me backing away bcz I heal instead of stealing is very high the game feels extremely cancer too I have fun but that quickly goes away in any instance where everything is broken like (spawn , glitch , demat working like ass , try hard in cas cuz rank is ass and many other things )

[broken lake]

That'd be great, though snipers would be an even bigger issue in this version

[weary forge]

Can people stop complaining about CHALLENGES being CHALLENGING it makes you try new things or just swap ur play style. Yet if it’s bugged that’s something different.

[marsh dew]

Shields, barricades, goo, and even the cashbox itself, if at the right angle, can make good cover from snipers. They only need a few seconds to deposit.

[lone lake]

Hear me out. Game mode is called Heist. The premise is 3 or 4 teams have a cash out ATM in their homebase. The goal is to go and steal cash in the form of a cashbox withdrawal from the enemy team's cashout ATM and bring it to yours. It brings a sense of should I defend my home turf or should I try and steal. Also as you hold the enemy cashbox withdrawal, you could drop it and another team can steal it.

[unkempt wasp]

it would be really cool if you could see the exact number of mr you were away from the next rank cuz i can’t tell with the whole arrow thing

[violet wing]

mmmh I like that one

[sage isle]

1. Remove Seoul or rework the hospital cashouts
2. Limit team comps. No triple medium, triple heal beam, triple defib
3. or to balance the heal beam, only allow one heal at a time or can't heal while taking damage

Then your game would be good :)

[silent cargo]

30 thrown so far no progress

[ornate fiber]

again infinitly waiting after a won round in ranked cant do anything else then leave and getting penalty yikes

[ripe smelt]

They just said that it's bugged and devs are aware

[clear hemlock]

Game is a bit too clunky and frustrating to actually try to win. Steal randomly stopping right at end, goo barrel not breaking, falling no regs, defib hologram blocking projectiles. all within 30 minutes. Game is still fun but would be better as a team deathmatch.

[keen beacon]

they did it to snipers. forced people to become them. might as well make it the same case for cheating!

[obsidian solar]

BUFF THE RIOT SHIELD:
Here's some suggestions, I know all of these together would make the shield pretty strong but even 1 or 2 would be enough to improve it so much!:

• While blocking movement speed should be the same as walking (increasing block movement speed would help a lot in pushing and giving your teammates support)
• Increase swing speed (Honestly a lot issues would be solve with this, the weapon lacks a good ttk)
• Lunge distance (90% of the fight become a chase you can't win, the other classes have ways to block enemies, slow them down or catch up to them, even heavies have RPG to finish people off if they use sledge)
• Increase damage from 84 to 90
• Electrify the baton and give it a glitch effect, when you hit somebody they're glitched for 2,5 sec (This would give the shield so much utility and would help the team greatly, making it a viable options)
• Remove the fov zoom when you hold your shield up (it's very annoying that when you block the screen zooms in, either remove it or add the option to choose between affected or indipendent fov while aiming)

ALLOW MELEE WEAPONS TO KEEP SPRITING WHEN ATTACKING:

• This would help them to compete

IMPROVE MELEE TRACKING:

• Some weapons like the Dagger have an insane lock that is not needed, on the other hand the Riot Shield has a very weak lock, you can't even hit people in your face sometimes. Consider increasing the angle at which the lock works and reduce the lock strenght on the Dagger

FIX THE DAGGER BACKSTAB:

• Backstabs with the Dagger are the most incosistent thing I've ever seen, a lot times either nothing happens or it's not backstab even though you're right behind them and other times it is when you're literally in front of them
• Increase the backstab hitboxes because the latency of the servers causes this problems
• Make it so you can hold the backstab and it's not a forced animation, revert it like it was in the Open Beta

[jovial compass]

light gaming

1. revert the nerf on cloak and don't nerf stun - light is already the weakest class in the game so why would you make it worse
2. buff grapple - grapple is not viable at all except certain maps with sniper, maybe make there be more uses instead of just 1
3. please fix flamethrower if u are on sword/dagger/m11 without long range you are completely countered and it also hard counters cloak and vanish bomb meaning either your ability or 1 gadget slot is worthless

[restive crescent]

you guys could add poses to cards, would be cool
example: ARIAD CNS LEVEL 96 FROM BATTLEPASS POSE

[wheat gull]

That clip does not prove anything?

[limpid zodiac]

This fucking ranking sysytem is so broken..... spend time to fix this shit.... No way they can't see the fucking problem... Just play the game and u see why is so fucked up... (I'm PLAT)

[quick coyote]

yes it does...? guy clearly is aimbot

[near snow]

make the characters less ugly, tired of always having to cover their faces

[safe rover]

stop dying

[silent cargo]

[whole acorn]

can you guys add spectating so that we don't have to just wait in the lobby for our frined to finish their match - if spectating while team wipe is a problem for cheating you can just switch the view like we're in the stands during team wipes or maybe play clips of the game like a real game show intermission

[distant vine]

add golden spoon

[hearty sun]

allow less than 6 ppl to start a private match, or let lesser #s like 1vs be p2p or smth

[worn spade]

Lower respawn time and MnK support on consoles plssss

[sturdy heron]

They used Unreal Engine's Meta Human so chances are those are actual employees' faces dont be so rude yo
https://youtu.be/5cn-kWDkPRA?si=3QmBOwF6G_hJsKOj&t=260

[willow leaf]

Light needs a health buff sooooo badly

[stark leaf]

Host a twitch rivals

[slow sandal]

😭 I made progress on the 2k dmg from 100m contract so I didn't get it replaced. Do I have to sit on a crane and tank a few games for my team to do this?

[near snow]

why the fuck would they use the ugly employees, literally looks like nikacadoavacado. whats the point in making something ugly. and its called constructive criticism

[violet solstice]

Cheating so rampant now they are openly posting YT videos of themselves aimbotting lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV4I369lrR8

[dreamy gull]

Advance to round 2.
Carry teammates both rounds.
STILL get demoted 2 bars…
What kinda fkn bullshit is that.

[distant vine]

add 1v1s into private matches. and allow friends and others in a group to spectate the 1v1

[brittle shuttle]

steal 15 cashouts? seriously?

[haughty relic]

It's called playing the game @brittle shuttle ^^

My actual suggestion: add inverted melee as an option, heavy attack as mouse 1 and regular as mouse 2, for sword AND heavy

[sonic spoke]

How does a heavy qiuck melee you while thier mesh shield is up and it never goes down?

[wise nymph]

Has anyone’s game crashed yet?

[thorn glade]

Can you guys make a monkey outfit and a pet baby monkey in next battle pass thanks also a theme park or castle map or even a jungle themed map thanks

[reef panther]

won't play till they deal with cheating

[zinc carbon]

Powershift is unplayable, the flamethrower buff is way to powerful

[misty ice]

KS-23 rework

KS-23 was made to be a high risk high reward, however it is mostly just high risk. The gun requires you to guide your shots and have good tracking on non-stationary targets, when they are stationary however the gun's dps is lack luster, and people who stand still in a game like this are usually shooting at you with gun sight level accuracy, and most guns will melt a heavy with the KS-23 well before he kills them, the gun was supposed to be used as a sort of shoot then cover gun, but after the decrease in dps it has lost that function, even with the increase in fire rate, because fire rate doesn't help you in a shoot then cover playstyle, you get one bullet to effectively deter a threat and now it does less damage, the fire rate was meant to make it still usable in more open combat which is usually what your up against, and is why they increased projectile speed as well, however the gun just doesn't work, the fire rate is still to slow so any missed shots equals death, the damage wasn't the issue, its the fire rate, and reload speed.

TF2 has a good example for a 6 round gun that is the most balanced gun in the game, the stock shotgun. Its not slugs, but at its max damage it does 90 damage with one full shot that lands all pellets, that kills the light, and the medium in the same amount of shots, but its faster, the fire rate is faster (.625s), and the reload to a full clip is only 3.5 seconds, 1 second on first, 0.5 on each after, I could break a wall and enter it with a full mag in under 4 seconds making me able to breach an area like I was meant to with a terrain destroyer. the range should be increased as well, well aimed shots should be rewarded, and makes midrange winnable but not unfair against anyone with meta weapons or even mid weapons, just decrease damage by 15 every 30ft. also make the deviation the same as the grenades (almost none) its already a projectile in a fast pace game, with projectile collision issues and mostly tiny hitboxes.

[willow leaf]

The stun gun should be replaced with a stun aps type gadget. So it would be a placable gadget that would have a damage radius just like the aps that stuns anyone inside of it. This allows light to have a defensive gadget while also making it more balanced as you can just shoot it and destroy it

[boreal sentinel]

Day 183 asking embark to convert 1000 vrs into 25 multibucks

[tawny goblet]

Contract quests are too vague. I cannot figure out what the 100k structural damage means.

[stray imp]

yes!

[copper hemlock]

Ranked needs to be a clean system, the up in the air arrows are really difficult to draw any conclusions on. Fame was a good system to have where we knew tangibly how much we were increasing or decreasing. Clear effort for clear results.

[willow leaf]

The stun gun should be replaced with a stun aps type gadget. So it would be a placable gadget that would have a damage radius just like the aps that stuns anyone inside of it. This allows light to have a defensive gadget while also making it more balanced as you can just shoot it and destroy it

[near dew]

Pls give sens slider to mesh sheild

[versed swallow]

Why in the hell can I not find a ranked game

[crisp vessel]

Can you make it so there is an option to put transparency to HUD things like the points ? I suffer trying to see anything through them

[pastel bronze]

what do the three arrows mean in rank? like if i have three does that mean i rank up or not!

[smoky sedge]

Is the 100 k structure challenge still bugged?

[wanton crag]

do the devs know how far 100 meters is in game? and how few lines of sight there even are that let you see 100m horizontally?

[maiden trail]

Are the silhouettes of the players that are getting revived supposed to stop bullets or is that a bug? Sucks trying to kill the medium with one HP because the big ol heavys forming figure is eating bullets

[dusk matrix]

the ranked is fucked as an australian player i cannot get into a single ranked game i have tried this since lanch

[green silo]

my game is so slow on the lowest settings help me

[molten trail]

nah

[versed cloud]

They need to make it to where the person who leaves the game loses all the ranked progression for the whole team

[digital shoal]

I really dislike the change to Embark ID names. There is some weird behavior where you will see the Gamertag on on Screen but in game it's the Embark ID. Or you see the one name in the roster, but the voice activation icon has a different name. It really spoil what limited communication there is sometimes. Go back to chosen username and forget the Embark ID.

[quick coyote]

Just a reminder how bad the devs shit the bed

[hybrid zinc]

another 4 light powershift .... fun!

[sudden spire]

What's up with the goo barrels? They never explode the way I want them to, they frequently burst way to close and I get stuck, and sometimes they just bounce along the ground without opening

[graceful hollow]

plat 2, only gaining elo if in the finals of tournament. got down arrows for losing in third round

[zinc carbon]

Just break the arena. Aka. Heavy, sledge, destroy.

[errant hamlet]

Yeah and it sucks too, I got several of my contracts rerolled, but I'm still stuck with 4000 points of damage at 100 meters. Maybe I'll get it by the end of this by getting the AOE damage after death that sometimes counts.

[fiery tartan]

seems like everyones using model 1887 because it got overbuffed :/
i think the damage is fine, but the amount of choke is not. right now it seems like it can kill 2 shots on mediums from quite a far range, like what you'd expect an M11 or AKM to perform well at.
I could be wrong, but in any circumstance it is ridiculous how many people are using it, even on incredibly open maps which should make a shotgun strategy disadvantageous

[quick coyote]

Skill issue, you aren't entitled to Plat or Diamond, Rank = Rank = Git Gud

[thick sorrel]

https://youtu.be/l2mnBZmT7xg?si=8__NPWBJyqOQ22bp&t=43
M needs 3 shots close, but L is 2 Shots over 20m away -_-*
Choke is disgusting right now. Just didn't appear OP because of FCAR. The more people use it, gg.

[mystic heath]

Been having a consistent issue w matchmaking. Lobbies are constantly plat and diamond when playing with friends (all of us are gold). But when I solo queue I get balanced lobbies. Is this just because we’re in a party?

[daring fossil]

both structural damage contracts this week are not tracking.

[tender glen]

Light is literally unplayable as of now
I really couldn't imagine what 2.6 light would be

Instead of nerfing shits to the ground why not just buff something bad to be good as and leave the already good things alone?

[willow leaf]

The stun gun should be replaced with a stun aps type gadget. So it would be a placable gadget that would have a damage radius just like the aps that stuns anyone inside of it. This allows light to have a defensive gadget while also making it more balanced as you can just shoot it and destroy it

[versed cloud]

How about just have it act like a real stun gun and have it only taze when someone's holding the trigger? It would make the stun gun a strictly team fight weapon? Or is that a bad idea

[graceful hollow]

so out of 16 teams in a plat 2 lobby, 14 deserve to lose elo?? get a grip u fuckn idiot, use ur head

[quick coyote]

Lmao that's so Plat 2 of you

[tulip dove]

skill issue, get good

[narrow owl]

Please add a Rematch button.

[wanton rose]

Ye ye keep nerfing lights ofc as if lights are dominating lobbies rn in ranked. Every team consists of 2H1M or 2M1H. There are barely any light players in higher lobbies because Heavy is just so much better at everything (they just move slower ig so no need to nerf them)

[tender minnow]

pls improve demat's reliability, its so unreliable in vegas and seoul cus theres so many layers and it takes 3 charges to even go thru a wall sometimes or sometimes it opens up very small holes, it would be a lot more reliable if demat had better depth and opens up walls that are too close but counts as another wall, using demat to escape in vegas and seoul or open up from under usually takes 2 charges cus of all the pipes

Also demat should be a lot faster, most of the time i have to click more than once for the demat to start working it just doesn't work a lot of the times, pls improve it and make it a more viable pick cus rn barely anyone is using it

Also a skin for the demat would be nice like a gadget or item you hold or even just your hand without the tab and it has a different, cooler animation, that would be sick

[prisma summit]

Since yesterday I'm having heavy stuttering issues when playing, i have had stutters before but nothing like this, settings in epic, low or whatever doesn't seems to affect or improve, just The Finals Running, my specs are Ryzen 7 5800X, 32 Gb RAM, RX 6700XT 12GB VRAM and an NVME SSD, which should be more than capable of running the game, any idea of a solution?

[vernal hemlock]

Ranked tournaments are too unpopular. allow players from different leagues to play together

[clear quest]

They do. Ive seen every league in the same match multiple times on different teams

[graceful hollow]

get good? ur the same rank 🤣 also get some friends and stop spamming lfg 😭 😭

[cerulean mason]

This guy gets it

[tulip dove]

im diamond, get it right bud
and maybe you need new friends, they cant carry u cuz ur trash

[lime otter]

I'm here to advocate an increase of the minimum advertised specs on the Steam page and the addition of XeSS 1.3
For an increase of minimum specs, my friend tried running the game on a 1060 + i5-7400 + 8GB RAM combo but the game was not even close to playable on minimum settings (all low graphics + minimum resolution + FSR2 on Ultra Performace) and ran at ~4fps with CPU usage solidly at 100%. I know the RAM on that PC is below the minimum spec but the CPU and GPU are above the minimum spec of 1050Ti + i5-6600K. I expect the game to run poorly on that setup but 4fps on unplayable settings is what I personally believe to be too low (though this is subjective so I understand if it stays as is).

Is the 4GB RAM below the spec really changing the performance to the point that it's not even barely playable?
#👂┇game-feedback message Thanks for the feedback, that makes sense

[quick coyote]

the light class is meant for accurate high skill players. if you arent above average at fps, pick a different class. accesibility has stripped gaming of some very unique and fun instances over the years—let something with a high skill floor exist please

[slow root]

even though light got nerf cause of cloaked i still use cloak and destroy people☠️ people just have skill issue ig

[tender glen]

Oh yeah?
Then why nobody pick light in ranked then?

Because even with skill the class struggles to deal with the other 2

Speaking from me as a light main too, it's just miserable that I had to use cloak and stun just to survive

[fresh coyote]

We need to be able to save outfits and I hate how when you got some of the skins you can see through the glasses/mask like when I got that blk skin with l.e.d face and on the new mask you can’t see the red eye only l.e.ds

[merry totem]

I think it's cool that you periodically do a survey after a game or series of games, although I have to wonder if other people have more interesting and varied responses than I do. Anyway, sometimes I just want to say "fun" or "not fun." Don't know if that would help you nearly as much, but it would signal something, I think. (fwiw, I'll probably mostly say "fun"). Appreciate the hard work, everyone.

[vocal rampart]

Please add an option to disable auto vaulting/climbing. 🥺

[wary storm]

lol not everything is just a skill issue. Light is the lowest picked in ranked and far from the meta. That’s not a skill issue. The whole point of 3 classes is to bring a rock paper scissors element to the game. Yes people can still play with light well and that’s great but it’s in a bad place. It’s OP in casual and not meta in ranked. It highlights an issue with the game that Casual modes differ so much from ranked that balancing is not possible across all modes

[zenith scarab]

I believe in you Embark

[eternal aspen]

yo my group can't find a ranked match... 10mins waiting... we're plat4

[keen lily]

yea I'm waiting for half an hour already on the EU servers. Since a couple of days EU servers are dead at this time, but they didn't use to be... the game is dying

[thick sorrel]

Light (XP-54) TTK vs Medium 0,9s
Medium (FCAR) TTK vs Light 0,5s
🥲

[storm atlas]

Login failed due to a service interruption, please try again later "

im not able to login can anyone help me resolve?

[hasty cliff]

i played the first beta with 8gb ram and compared to my current 16gb ram your frame rate is GREATLY affected. i was only hitting 20fps with my 8gb (i have a 3060 and ryzen 7) but after my upgrade it went up to 90fps. so yes the ram does very much change the performance

[crystal umbra]

🔥🔥🔥SUGGESTION🔥🔥🔥

CREATE A DISCORD CHANNEL WHERE WE CAN SHARE CLIPS OF OUR CHEATING TEAMMATES

I'm litterally watching my team mates reticle clip onto enemies while I'm dead and spectating him.

Thanks for your consideration 🚀

[lime otter]

^

[delicate yoke]

Slightly nerf guardian turret so it has more recoil/spread when shooting a target. As of now it has laser precise aim which can be annoying.

[willow leaf]

I don’t really think this would be a nerf. It would just make a gadget that isn’t fun better. Honestly it may be even more useful to lights than the current version since it gives lights a way to defend the cash out with they sorely need. I also play a lot of light and the real thing light needs to be better is a buff in health not a single annoying gadget.

[keen lily]

so the timer went over 1 hour and it didn't find a game... awesome

[wanton rose]

I mean getting shot with a rpg in the face for 140 dmg is not fun, a flamethrower heavy just opening the mesh shield and walking up to you while getting healed from the back is not fun, there are lots of things that are not well balanced in this game and i think the stun gun is not at the top of the list. Lights kit is just really annoying against new players and i get that but there is also a competitive side where the stun gun is a very useful tool especially against heavy players. I dont think a nerf is needed but thats just my opinion tho

[versed bridge]

This was just under 100m
It's really not a good idea for a quest IMO
Just forces the most toxic type of play

[plucky estuary]

what abaut to fucking fix the bug problem befor u give task for players to make structure damage ? its bugged so fucking long time and u have just dont care morons...

[spark flower]

Hi ! i understand how you Can feel but a really enjoy all theses gadgets even when i'm the target, i feel like every thing Can be counter, it's a game like Age of Empire 2 ( Archer > Spears > Horse > Archer ) if you think about it everything have IS weakness

[pseudo breach]

Thanks for all the 30 second games. Just awesome

[misty jasper]

not unplayable.. had plenty of lights on my team and friends that do just fine with light. Might not be the best class, but unplayable is an exaggeration

[zenith folio]

Game is getting worse by the week. I love this game. Please make it work PLEASE FIX ALL THE WEIRD ISSUES QUICKLY.

[quick coyote]

Let it go man, it's already dead

[thick sorrel]

Repost from Steam:

• Make RPG deal 140 to light, 240 to medium, and 340 to heavy.
• Make Mine deal the same amount.

I like the idea, same pain for all classes.

We are agreed that 1 Shot Nukes(& PreNerf RPG) is a no no. But leaving L with 10 HP isn't much better...

@zealous lark It's actually not in percent. 10 HP for all was exaggerated. Let's assume 10%
15 HP - L
25 HP - M
35 HP - H
Still bad right? Whats the right balance?

He had a good point: https://steamcommunity.com/app/2073850/discussions/0/4365752664043894434/

[viral whale]

please fix pyro grenades getting stuck to riot shield players. also add killcams

[zealous lark]

If every class get same % of hp dmg, what is the point of picking more tanky ones?

[clear trout]

this has to honestly be the worst suggestion i have ever seen

[twin heart]

Dont question them, theyre a quality engineer and they know how when they see an imbalance (this is what ive been legit told by this very person)

[spark flower]

I just play frag grenade , pad tbh. But when i have a cac lights focusing me i Switch to the shotgun , kinda fun to force myself to adapt and not only playing One kit

I mean , we have a réserve , do it for possibility counter a lights or else... If some heavy just run into a room , pick mine , play around it

I accepted that sometimes other players have better kit for a specific situation sometimes , it s where team play have to do something here

This game is really amazing, i really don t think any of weapons or gadgets are overpowered , just right Time , right occasion

[fast talon]

Can we get a change for that Mission? “Deal 4,000 Damage from a fist of 100 meters or more” it’s horrible playing for it and against it

[thick sorrel]

Yep, whats your take on this?
Light (XP-54) TTK vs Medium 0,9s
Medium (FCAR) TTK vs Light 0,5s

Shouldn't every class fight each other with the same chance, so Skill is the deciding factor who wins?

[quick coyote]

Can you please. FFS. Do something about cheaters on Asia server. How many screenshots how many times I have reported I am losing my mind.

[gloomy otter]

Can someone please explain I made it to round 2 in rank tournament and I still went down 1 bar??

[slow root]

^^^

[broken lake]

the right balance is to buff light health to 200. Which would fix the horrible light on light TTK, RPG, Mines, etc.

while also not ruining the balance of those weapons and gadgets between mediums and heavies.

[graceful hollow]

gets harder the higher rank

[tawdry berry]

hey there, i have a question regarding the mission "Deal 75,000 structural damage to arenas using arena carriables". What is considered exactly an "arena carriable"? Because i've been throwing gas cans at buildings all the time, and yet i have 0 progression in it

[civic igloo]

hey, the mission is currently bugged, they're working on a fix #⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[thin grail]

We need a "DO NOT revive me" button
because sometimes it's better to just not get revived at all

[willow leaf]

I mean I actually agree with you on all of those other annoying mechanics. I just thought of a possible solution to just one of the many annoying and unbalanced issues in the game. And again I don’t really think what I proposed would be a nerf. It would just change a bad mechanic into a good one which I think is what needs to happen to all of the things you listed and many other mechanics in the game since it’s a very unbalanced game in my opinion.

[coral matrix]

second this

[royal pumice]

I'd like to see the many annoyances fixed before hefty 'balance' changes. Just one example which ruins the game for me - why can turrets blast me through smoke and areas with zero visibility when I cannot see the turrets? If that's down to individual graphics settings then you need to normalise the visuals so that's it's not reliant on personal game settings.

[tender minnow]

remove defib 1 second invulnerability its waaay too long, they can shoot while i cant that is broken and dumb

[daring siren]

The new deal 75k structural damage with carriables circuit challenge is not tracking

[arctic relic]

am i the only one that thinks that the new weapon skins are mediocre af? like i want to splash my cash that i have on weapon skins but none of them are worth it

[smoky gust]

Counters work in age of empires because its a very different game

You can have plenty of units of everything
You can always at least somewhat counter them back

And if the enemy just happens to run a lot of spears, then you can just make more archers to compensate without much effort

And how does this translate into the finals?
You basically lock yourself into spear hoping that the enemy didnt take archer

If they do have archers (rpg) you cant swap to horses
Youre stuck loosing (and not having fun) until the end or you quit

The only option you have is to not play something that is easily exploitable to begin with and purposefully limit your options and have less fun

Soft counter are ok, hard counters like this are not

[broken pawn]

Remember that you can go to your collection and purchase bundles that are not in the store anymore, you might find something you like that was previously in store

[idle hazel]

can they fix the clipping on the diskette bezel skin pretty please

[night surge]

this game is the greatest FPS game ngl

[fast ferry]

Rotational/Random Reload Animations

I want to have the possibility to select multiple reload animations for a gun. I want to select a primary and a secondary reload animation. Primary reload gets used 80% of time while secondary 20%.

Please note that the specified percentages are illustrative and subject to adjustment.

Auto Kick whole team if cheater was detected

I am unsure if that is even possible but eliminate/kick a whole team when the anti-cheat detects a cheater. Team mates don't gain any fame points. The more extreme approach would be cancel the whole tournament but I think that's more unlikely possible but if would create a fair playing ground.

I know the anti-cheat ain't the best but I would make sense to have something like that.

General changes in UI

IMO, some elements suck. The display of daily mission/weekly challenges are very unintuitive. I would like a cleaner and "easier" approach to get an overview of challenges/dailies/rewards.

The leaderboard needs a fix. I can only access it once. After attempting opening it once, it gets stuck and loads forever. Workaround is to close THE FINALS and reopen it to access the leaderboards.

Matchmaking
The MM is atrocious. I don't think you should get matched up with Silver/Gold in your team while the rest of the enemies consist of full Platin players. It really doesn't make sense. Somtimes even Unranked/Bronze players.

Better ulitization of Battlepass/Credits
For the love of god, you better remove that stupid cap of 3000 credits. There is no justification for having that. It's outdated. That cap feels like you wanting to artifically increase player's engagement into your game e.g. pricing the new weapons/gadets in a way that 3000 credits are not enough to buy them in on go.

Remove it, introduce "Endless Levels" in your Battlepass after completing your Battlepass to earn credits only like in League of Legends and then introduce more content in form of skins/animations/rare stuff to buy with credits. It rewards dedicated players.

[thick sorrel]

100% signed.

[hushed cape]

You’re playing at 7 in the morning when people have work and school….?

[hollow badger]

nerf lights

[idle hazel]

buff heavies

[keen lily]

it was between 8 and 9 and during the last weeks it didn't matter, it only started to matter now since there is much less players

[fast ferry]

It's called "having vacation" XD

[swift laurel]

been playing since closed beta and my feedback remains the same as it was back then, solve the cheating problem and improve ranked, i have now uninstalled the game i have tried to be patient but i cant do it anymore its a waste of time both because cheaters make the game unplayable and none of my friends play anymore (because the game is infested with cheaters and ranked sucks), sure the game is fun and unique but exactly what i said (and many others have said) would happen in closed beta, has happened:

cheaters gone unchecked
ranked has seen no improvement
people are leaving the game in large numbers

theres nothing to work towards and even if there was, barely any legit players from oce or asia will ever reach whatever there is because of cheaters
casual is just not fun in this game, fills are drones and there are people cheating even in casual gamemodes, its insane
the game is inherently competitive in nature so competitive should be the main focus (not sorry, noobs)

[cedar forum]

I play on EU and matchmaking went fine around the same time you tried

[hushed cape]

Yeah i also never have issues, 10-40 seconds and i usually get a game

[keen lily]

I guess it also depends on the rank, I am plat 2 atm, waited for over 1 hour and got no success in the morning

[fresh shell]

Cap all mines at 1.
Spam around cashouts continues to be horrible.

[keen path]

no its not. its 1030 at night. crazy timezones huh

[hollow badger]

just shot the mines

[timid kiln]

if next update dont fix light sniper dagger im done waiting

[graceful hollow]

nothing wrong with sniper dagger lol

[crystal umbra]

There are counters to this. Just use different equipment.

[sly estuary]

Gadget spam is very bad. Game should focus more on gunplay its FPS, not gadgets spam

[hearty birch]

give us better performance settings

[thick sorrel]

Confirmed. What Mediums can do with mines is horrific.
Only 1 mine with lower cooldown or 2 with less effect (damage/duration) seems an option.

[spark flower]

Hi ! I get your point , we will take the exemple of RPG and i'm really sorry i dont know the english word for the gadgets as Medium who cancel Every nade+rpg.. But saying that their is something to counter rpg

Getting close to him , using this gadget and with my Friend we give info when enemy rpg is on cd or if we dont know.

I m not mad against rpg , it s not only for shooting at some lights faces ☺️ , it s really useful .. Create New fights environnement , on High ground maps etc..

For me playing with and against is really fun , by destroying the buildings it make the battlefield more intense.

Rpg is strong yes , but with a strong cd in a such quick game , you better not miss it

[minor sphinx]

queue problems?

[analog torrent]

Anyone here can help me with error code TFLA0029? Please help guys I really wanna play

[tulip needle]

Please fix that if a teammate leaves in ranked, that you loose ALL the elo for the whole round. so unfair

[zinc shuttle]

I havent kept upto date with the game but why was unranked removed from the game? i can only play ranked or 1 round modes now?

[torpid fulcrum]

I lost points and got restricted, due to the servers and making a ticket does nothing,
I almost won my last game but lost the last round and for some reason I got demoted completely!

[mellow elm]

Guys, PLEASE, change the Steal Cashout challenge to count when your team cashes out. This is the third time in 2 days I've been griefed while stealing the cashout. I've had teammates kill me with gas, slam the floor under me and just now a teammate put the dematerializer under me on the 4th cashout as I was stealing it, and then quit the game after.

I know it’s fun to say “git gud” etc, let’s just think about how this challenge compares to others.

While I encourage difficult challenges, especially as the season progresses, I think this one needs a little tuning for the reasons below:

1) It is significantly more difficult than other objective-based challenges in this rotation, for example “Win 4 Power Shift games” or “Win 1 Bank it game”
2) It requires basic competency from teammates to be able to distract enemies and prevent disruptions while you are stealing a cash out. Completing the challenge is therefore not a measure of your own skill, but also your teammates.
3) As other players also have this challenge, it encourages ignoring the vault and hoping other teams will deposit it so you can steal. If you’ve played a match yesterday where the vault sat unopened for minutes at a time, this is why.
4) it encourages selfish play, griefing and team killing. Yesterday I was team killed with a gas grenade as I stole a cash out with two other teams wiped. In another game, a friendly heavy slammed the ground under me, disrupting the cash out so he could steal it.

Ultimately, this challenge requires team effort but only rewards the individual.

The simple solution is to alter this challenge so that if your TEAM steals a cash out, it awards you progress. That way people who play medium healer that focus on keeping the stealer alive can still get progress, or Lights who prevent enemies getting close / do back line harassment.

[obsidian solar]

Give smoke grenade to all classes! It would open so many possibilities! I would use smoke so much if it was on medium, on the other hand i've barely seen any Light using smoke, especially when they have better gadgets to choose from

[hollow badger]

why devs hate on heavy😭 🙏

[smoky gust]

No no, dont misunderstand me
Rpg is mostly fine and adds some interesting dynamics most of the time

But when facing against lights it just straigh up forces a win a lot of the time
That is not fine

Same with aps
Its strong against gadgets, and thats fine
But when facing it with cl-40 or mgl32 it pretty much deletes any hope of fighting the enemy

Except for this interaction, it too is fine

Something can be generally well balanced but broken in certain other scenarios

[quick coyote]

hitreg bad

[hybrid ravine]

There ARE true golden moments to steal cashouts, and judging by how passionate your argument is, I know you’re already there, or at least in the ballpark of knowing what I’m talking about and being able to feel that. Team just wiped, your teammate is taking the rest of an enemy team on a wild goose chase, etc.

I get where you’re coming from but players can learn a lot from this challenge. I’m sorry your teammates are being doodoo though, for real.

[quick coyote]

so Funny , no comments , thx for get solo in the world in ranked ❤️

[keen fossil]

Pls fix anti cheat

[jagged mortar]

Deal 15,000 damage using light machine guns or assault rifles not working???

[rose surge]

revert the cloak nerf

[late herald]

Single fire game mode
Pistols, snipers, shottys
Keep power shift and give it a spin every now and again? Maybe capture the flag/TDM/P-Shift rotate

[humble temple]

allow slower ads when stunned(atleast for the revolver and sniper)

[tall herald]

fuckin do something about hackers and fuckin finally fix this bad report function, cant be real that this thing constantly sets back and you have to start over because the damn sequence of the winning team is over

[spark shard]

Fix the matchmaking, no way to reach diamond solo https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2476492914534552000/8FCB3783741DFCEA07898DE93BA4D5211BD55CDF/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

[mellow elm]

To be fair, it's day two and I'm on 14/15 where I managed to get a double steal on one cashout, and then a steal on another, which massively helped.

I'd still advocate for the challenge criteria to be adjusted even if I had completed it. I had the same issue with 10 cashouts on week 1. It just wasn't enjoyable because of the amount of times I felt like the team let me down (for instance, a light wanders straight past them, through the bubble, through the 2 barricades I've put up, and zaps me)

A challenge is a challenge, but my bone of contention here is that this one in particular allows for teammates to ruin your progress either through inability, or through malice, whereas any of the other challenges are more down to your individual ability or effort.

Just got 15/15, thank fuck for that.

[vale acorn]

PUBG got land terraforming, digging, hole making, craters and such- Do you think ground deformation could be possible in this game?

[graceful hollow]

ranked changes next week apparently

[gloomy otter]

How about this one, if your teammate leaves rank before 7mins left or doesn’t even load in now it’s a constant 2v3 maybe I shouldn’t lose rank for something I can’t control

[grave wren]

Please fix the coffee cup emote. I'm drinking it to look cool, but I asked my friend to stream on discord so I could see it from a 3rd person perspective and the cup isn't anywhere near my face 😭

Also the cup stays glued to my hand when I start firing before the emote is over, I use the CL40 and haven't tried it on any other weapons

[plush shell]

add fsr3 fg. FSR 3 doesn't double the input delay. Yes, an input delay is added, you're right about that. However, this input delay depends on your FPS.

Let me explain this with detailed examples.

Let's say you're getting 60 FPS in the game, and your GPU usage is at 99%. If you enable FSR 3, it will take about 15% of your GPU usage. This will cause a decrease in your actual frame rate. So, your real FPS will be 51. But when you activate FSR 3, you'll reach 102 FPS. Visual smoothness will seem like 102 FPS due to interpolated frames, but the input delay will be as it was at 51 FPS.

The input delay at 51 FPS is 20 ms.

The input delay at 60 FPS is 16 ms.

In the real 102 FPS without FSR 3, the input delay is 10 ms, but since we're using FSR 3, it will be 20 ms.

Now, let me ask this, especially to those who claim 'FSR 3 adds too much input delay': 'Would you prefer to play with a 16 ms input delay at 60 FPS, or at 20 ms with the smoothness of 102 FPS?' I'm sure none of you would notice the 4 ms delay, but you'll enjoy the added smoothness in the visuals.

Now, let me add an extra note here.

This game puts a heavy load on the CPU due to explosions and building collapses. However, FSR 3 mostly demands GPU power. Most people who experience low FPS don't have their GPU usage at 99%. GPU usage for most people is around 70%. So, when you enable FSR 3, it fills the gap in the GPU without causing a loss in your real FPS, which will increase your FPS. This means: someone who gets a stable 60 FPS will get 120 FPS with a 16 ms input delay.

[pearl pelican]

every second round there is a rage cheater in ranked, fucking hire a ban team or something

[pine raft]

idk how do u even manage to make such dogshit matchmaking, where you get absolute clueless teammates with such insane consistency meanwhile the enemies beam you in every match :DD

[keen lily]

Another ranked game, another cheater. Also, it seems that plat/dia is swarmed with cheaters which with good detection shouldn't get past silver rank. You are killing this game

[frank lintel]

@keen lily what do you mean "killing game?... game is dead all ready xD

[spark shard]

it will be amazing, what we have right now it does not make sense... plus cheaters

[silver forge]

Calling the game dead is stupid, there are still tens of thousands of people playing everyday.

However that player number is dropping every week, according to Steam Charts at least.

Edit, responding to the message below:
Yup, very easy to say "Just do this" but if it were that easy, it would have been done by now. It seems like Embark is spread too thin and they leave critical decisions too late. Nukes were in the game for THREE WHOLE MONTHS and now we're basically halfway through season 2 and it feels like they're only really cracking down on the anti-cheat in the last few weeks.

Yet it seems people are happy to ignore all that and just want a giant fucking spoon and more AK skins...

[proud eagle]

easily fixed with fair matchmaking, eliminating cheaters and new game modes.

[river plover]

?

[graceful hollow]

i dont know how hopeful i am, there is no info on what the change will be

[white loom]

so are they starting to get stricter with hackers?
will we finally get the game where everyone enjoys it?

[grand quarry]

DLSS FRame Generation has disappeared from my settings, I have an RTX 4070 I was using FG with no issues until it disappeared from the menu

[wise wigeon]

very good game i dont leave my house or go to sleep because i play

[raven jacinth]

two cheaters two games in a row, it's time to wake up...

[proud eagle]

lol i just finished a second round with 2 teams hacking.

[spark shard]

another one here, 2 cheaters, and one of them diamond...

[silver forge]

According to recent patch notes there have been improvements to the game's security. Whether those changes have made any difference is unknown. Embark haven't told us about any ban waves or how many cheaters they end up banning recently.

[keen lily]

maybe we should all start to use cheats, the worst you can get is a suspension not even a ban anyway right xd

[hushed cape]

They mentioned EU, i am EU, it was early in the morning crazy how timezones work huh?

[fervent blaze]

add FSR 3 frame gen

[quick coyote]

thats not the whole story tho
they tried nerfing nukes multiple times but didn't succeed until they gutted it all in season 2. anti cheat updates were already coming weekly, they just wouldn't tell us until people started complaining they werent doing anything.

i feel like you guys didn't really played games that are truly plagued by cheaters, most games that died out because of cheating were unplayble or they were infested by it way more than we have in THE FINALS currently

[cedar forum]

this is a good change ngl (was the bugged one)

[rapid stream]

Pro contracts my ass

[pseudo latch]

Day 44 of me begging the devs to give heavy an M134 Minigun as a Specialization.

• 200 Round magazine, ammo is restored two bullets every second, 100 seconds for a full reload.
• 20 rounds per second, eleven damage a round, 220 DPS
• Falloff begins at 30 meters down to six damage a shot at 50, but wide spread means the weapon becomes less effective past 10 meters even against larger targets
• bullets do high damage to structures (should be breaking walls in 20-50 shots) allowing a mid-range option to output mass destruction (destroying entire walls on higher floors of buildings, ripping apart nesting sightlines)
• • significant damage to structures and players
• • gun can be pre-spooled with RMB over having an ADS (for obvious reasons, you try to aim down the sights of a water cooler)|
• • high suppressive force through sheer amount of bullets being fired
• • its a goddamn minigun
• - Heavy cannot jump or sprint while holding it, has to switch back to primary
• - lengthy equip-unequip time to balance such, no “pocket minigun” strats, choosing to use this is a commitment
• - gun has to spool up for a second before firing, spool up being LOUD

[hollow badger]

+1

[signal basin]

Change HP to :
200hp for light
250hp for médium
300hp for heavy

[white loom]

ook

[lavish shard]

🤡🤡

[gloomy otter]

hard stuck plat 1 seems like i win a round and still go down or i face a hacker almost every game and now im fucked, this late update to anti-cheat will kill the player base even more

[crisp beacon]

Could we please have a way of communicating to our friend who is in game that we are online? We have no way of letting him know
2 of us are online at the moment and we have no clue how long our friend is going to be in the tournament (just shows In game)
I know it shows on the left during game if one of your friend comes online but people can easily miss that.

[wraith igloo]

About 10 games in a row now haven’t made it past first round, yay Asia

[median cipher]

Embark consistently nerfs everything besides medium's favorite gun the Fcar, sure they removed Recon sense even though it was useless to begin with, but heavy was dealt with a Nerf. The Lewis gun the heavy had was about continuous fire and damage with it's short mag, accurate fire, and long reload time, but since they decreased the accuracy for it you really don't hit anything with it and therefore you don't do any damage for it unless you do cute little bursts. It makes no sense though because M60 was basically turned into a Negev from CS2, but takes continuous fire to even trigger the accuracy buff and at that point you're already on low ammo. The heavy basically lost its ability to defend themselves with the fact the mesh shield has been nerfed, and glitch grenades will automatically trigger when hitting a bubble Shield. Since they basically nerved both heavy and medium in certain ways, they have basically made a light an overpowered class for a small amount of time before then they also nerfed the Light by soon to be nerfing the stun gun and decreasing the amount of time you have when you're cloaked( A whole playstyle of flanking gone). If you noticed that every ranked game gold through diamond has turned into a toxic meta where people will only spam APS turrets, Guardian turrets, gas mines, explosive mines, healing beams, and the mega accurate Fcar. The way you remove metas is you take the stuff that's falling behind that's not in the meta and buff it. You don't take things that's doing well and you nerf the life out of them, it doesn't work that way. The moment you do that you've created a worse meta, you've created a toxic meta and people leave. Proofs there too, just a few months ago The Finals used to have 34000 people playing now it's Zig Zagging 16000-7000.

[proper ore]

Double heavy is the most oppressive strategy and is abused non-stop in competitive.
Heavy is currently still overtunned, you just haven't mastered the class yet.
Once you do you'll realise it needs harder nerfs to their burst damage / sustain.
Game works a lot different at higher ranks but i do agree they do need to buff m60, that's a good change.
Light is wimpy against competent teams, u can make it work but it's a very high skill ceiling.

[pseudo leaf]

leaderboard show the player one below you

[rough herald]

APS: Proactivity and fck your projectile problem (Day 12 of asking)

Notes:
. to start off, i love the idea of the aps, the ability of being able to defend an area locking down a room is fun
. but its just unfair in some situation all because the "fck your projectile" part of APS.
for a weapon like the GL that shoot projectile you basically lose the fight automatically
. and for powershift its basically mandatory to win (that gamemode need a rework tbh)
. its also a one and done. meaning once you place it down it just stay there forever

Suggestion:
. (fck your projectile) either make it so it take damage with each projectile destroy. Or it can only destroy 5 projectile then broke
. and also give it a 3 second activation time like the turret have
. (One and Done) make it lose hp overtime

side note: for the love of RN-Jesus just let me play with my fav gun cl-40 Without a aps fcking me over.
Like How are you suppose to kill someone WHO CAN"T TAKE DAMAGE??? its like playing riot shield without the shield
(embark pls fix )

[dim kelp]

what if we had a fallout new vegas easter egg on the vegas map, like some writing in a casino that says “the game was rigged from the start”

[pseudo latch]

Light would immediately become a dominating force because they have enough health to pick stupid fights and win through sheer DPS, and heavy suddenly loses all respect he has both because of the previously stated and simply not being tough enough to take a hit much better than the other classes, you’d be taking the tank out of the tank. Absolutely not.

@proper ore if they keep nerfing heavy the way they have heavy won’t have anything left. Incessant complaining is smothering the class, and meaning parts of us that should maybe be buffed like our weak viable weapon roster have gone unnoticed. How about we instead tackle something else, like maybe bringing the weakest parts of light and heavy up to the level medium has sat itself on since launch.

Like gods sake double heavy isn’t even that common anymore, 80% of what I see plat+ nowadays is MMH or MMM, heavies can barely peek their heads over the torrents of lobotomized support mediums deciding games by holding left click on someone else on their team. I don’t need to work hard if I make someone else in my team survive dying three times over through healbeams and defibs, and if I dare need to fight I have the gun equivalent of the game holding my hand through not only some of the games best guns, but the games best gun. FCAR does everything but shoot itself at this point with how powerful it is compared to its ease of use.

[young drift]

add left hand pls

[silver forge]

Yes, they were cautious with nerfing nukes and it wasn't the right call. It should have been removed sooner

How do you know the changes were coming weekly? Also, saying "Other games had bigger cheating issues" to downplay the issues this game is having is not a very healthy mindset. There are a lot of players, especially in higher elos who are running into cheaters incredibly often. Paired with how horrible this season's ranked system is and losing hours of progress over a single loss to cheaters, it's a serious issue. This game has a cheater problem, and that doesn't change just because other games have or had a bigger cheater problem.

@signal basin:
"Change HP to :
200hp for light
250hp for médium
300hp for heavy"

No

[fervent vortex]

Balance wise the game was in a good spot but Unforch casuals are bad so light got gutted, I’m not saying it wasn’t the best class by a mile last patch because it was but nerfing glitch and stun is a bit wack, glitch and lh1 should have been the only things nerfed since they are both busted, which also means once light gets buffed again it will go back to being busted since it has the best gun by a mile

[turbid cave]

If a teammate disconnects, a few things could happen to the team to give a small advantage:

• Equal distribution of respawn tokens to all team members (Only if they have properlly abandoned the match)
• Lower the respawn timer on teamwipes from -25% if one disconnects and -50% when 2 disconnect but make gadget cooldown not regenrate

[lethal coyote]

I'd make it:
175hp for light
250hp for medium
325hp for heavy

[brittle obsidian]

Mfs will fundamentally change the game instead of nerfing the 3 guns with overtuned DPS. I think its safe to say Finals players have the worst takes of any gaming community ever.

[white loom]

at this point if finals devs just listen to the players
and instead of balancing the guns (which they already are) should devote 75% of their time to improving the anti cheat
and making new game modes
and increasing the light's hp to 180 smth ish

[hollow badger]

Buff fcar it only kills a heavy in 0.1 seconds😭🙏

[spark oriole]

Actually can’t get over the fact if I want to find a ranked game I have to play with cheaters, out of the last 4 crossplay games I’ve played I’ve come across 5 cheaters that aren’t even slightly trying to hide it 😔

[wanton rose]

Buff rpg so it wipes entire teams instead of just lights 🙏🙏

[proper ore]

It's more present (im like top 260 or smth) in the top ranks since it just dominates.
(to add onto this, I'm pretty almost all top 100's spam double heavy in comp)
Unless ur double heavy yourself, not much u can do unless they do something super stupid.

Heavy can keep his tank status but then I'd rather he lose his burst damage, not sure why heavy has the most reliable burst damage & most health & most sustain in a fight.
Best bet would be lowering height of barricade a lil (buff & nerf) & make his rpg do 80 dmg but recharge x2 or even x2.5 as fast.
More RPG for rotates and less for chimping + more fair to fight him as any other class.
Shield is still super good for team fights & charge for burst/rotate

[vocal bloom]

I tried 3 times today to load into a game and got this crash each time. Reinstalling the game seemed to help but the crash has returned again

[jagged cedar]

Double heavy is less common but is by no means less effective

[fallen knoll]

Nurf the flame thrower

[pseudo latch]

Still too much of a shift. The health totals are fine, nerfing mediums oppressive presence and not nerfing things on light that are fine like cloak are what need changing on lights side of things.

@proper ore right, that’s what I heard about gold, and about plat, and about diamond

So when I hit D4 and 90% of the meta is still 2+M teams I’m not even gonna pretend to be surprised.

Heavy hardly has the most consistent burst anymore, RPG is just easy to use and fast damage, a half-decently thrown grenade will do more damage than an RPG, and you get more of them more often, C4 is a rotten husk of what it was, so you can’t argue that for burst, and you sure as shit can’t argue nukes, those have been dead in the ground since launch.

Leave barricade alone god damnit, you’ve taken enough from us, and making barricades shorter does guess what, make the head glitching thing a medium issue, not a heavy issue.

Most sustain is only by virtue of, again, the single digit IQ medium validating stupid gameplay behind him.

Shield won’t be fine if they keep nerfing its HP by 100+ every month.

@jagged cedar it’s certainly less effective than it was, that’s why they nerfed heavy six times over. When I still see ten 2+M teams to every 2+H team (if that) then maybe 2+M teams have become the stronger part of the meta.

You can’t hide behind “high elo” anymore, I’m here now, and nothings changed since silver but the significant lack of lights.

[cobalt lava]

At least medium is good in a healthy way (besides fcar)

Heavy is good because it breaks the boundaries of what it’s meant to be able to do and can win stupid fights through the power of its tools

[white loom]

they should add class specific game modes lmao
only heavies only lights only mediums
and get battle eye instead of eac
or valve anti cheat

[keen hollow]

Please change the deposit 150k challenge. It’s too fckn hard

[half thunder]

Let me join shooting range or something while I wait in my 20m queue

[cedar forum]

It's different for everyone, mine is 50k

[rough herald]

dude self reporting 💀

[vale acorn]

What if there was a low poly zombie horde as an event, slow moving and tracking the closest player, able to walk up steps and perhaps climb but not jump

[earnest sierra]

please nerf the meduim grenade launcher damage it's so op and annoying

[drifting gorge]

What 💀 It's not OP

[delicate basin]

WHY CAN I NOT GOO ON MY MATES!?!?!?!?!?!?

[pseudo latch]

Is it really though? Do we call deciding fights, not through skill, but by making an enemy fight someone on your team three times to actually kill them healthy? Because that’s not winning a healthy way, that’s winning because your team has a medium on it that has the effective health of three mediums and one/two extra lives, and even the best players in the game are not usually suited up to deal with a 6v3.

The problem is only magnified the more mediums you have, because suddenly any damage you deal that isn’t a kill is invalidated, and even kills you get can be completely mitigated if not immediately capitalized on, and “immediately” is usually when half the cast is still reloading their guns. Plus the amount of mediums who will just drop everything and mindlessly waddle up for defibs because it’s just that effortlessly effective is sickening, there’s no skill expression, no higher thought, there’s “fuck it, they probably can’t kill me before I get away with this, and two of us together can probably kill whatever’s left of that dude”.

Heavy is able to massively increase his and his teams survivability through shields, but at least he has the decency not to invalidate the damage you do deal to him. You bust a mesh shield and it’s gone for that fight, you break dome and it’s not gonna be off CD before that fights over unless it’s massively dragged on (and in any of those cases you can guess what made that fight last so long(hint it’s mediums)). Medguns are all but fucking bottomless as long as you never let them overheat.

[tulip dove]

double heavy is the most oppressive strategy in the game and if you don't realize that idk what to say, heavys dominance strictly comes from the great utility it has: Bubble, Barricade (which def needs some sort of hp tuning), RPG, C4, and Mesh. Now multiple that by 2 plus a heal beam medium pocketing and it makes it the best strategy in the game. Not saying that other strats like MMH or MMM are not good, HHM is just by far the best in the game

[fervent vortex]

Nah lmh was the best for the past month but with the recent patch notes double heavy is looking good again, light is still busted but with the nerf expected next week the class might fall off, but since glitch and lh1 are so incredibly busted lmh will still prob be the best comp

[teal siren]

Queue times? 💀

[solemn girder]

Fix the shitty ranked system, its so buggy i got from close dia2 to close plat1 because i cant get points today, it doesnt matter how much i win, its alway 2 or 3 arrows down, i get more arrow down as my dia 3 mate, best stats also dont matter."" if you win 2 rounds you should always gain ranks or min. dont lose ranks""

[upbeat inlet]

Feedback qualm I have is the system integrity violation where you get kicked. From a coding perspective, I know there is typically a way we could point to the culprit of it. Like if the error is triggered it should point to the culprit on my system in the error/kick message.

I get it very occasionally and it's always inconsistent in its occurences. I've tried disabling rapid triggers on my keyboard and it doesn't seem to have helped.

[pseudo latch]

Well it must not be that oppressive because from the middle of Bronze to the middle of plat I haven’t seen it played for shit, and the few times I have seen it have been mixed bag games. Yknow what I do see a lot of? Two to three mediums jerking eachother off with healbeams, crawling over eachother like feral animals for defibs, and melting anyone who does anything to contest it through the sheer uncontested efficiency of the FCAR.

Dome is fine and has been for months, mesh loses 100+ HP a month and by season 3 if the trend continues people are gonna just stop running it, barricade headglitching is literally only good if your aim fucking sucks (seriously if by plat you can’t train a head for shit you got worse problems than the meta) and C4 has been a joke since the season started. Heavy is publicly disemboweled twice a month while medium gets front row seats, I will not be told now that he’s the problem child in the current meta.

Also RPG could do 5 damage and some of yall would still whine about it, but fine, nerf its damage by another 40 and watch how people will still bitch about it because it’s still being used at all for combat, I’ll just swap to frags and show you kids what real AoE damage can do when I can splash your whole team for up to 160 twice, even thrice a fight.

@solemn girder you’re in the final stretch, this is the best of the best. It should be hard as hell to climb. Last season people bitched about it being too easy, now it’s proper hard.

[dusk talon]

Its kinda annoying about matchmaking. Sometimes when i enter a match its already lost. I get to play 30-40sec. As a result i lost that match.

[odd ibex]

True also have multiple turret to not be placed in one spot cause then it completely unfair with mediums op guns combined

[versed dagger]

embark branded chef outfit coming soon?

[tulip dove]

You're gonna have majority of players gravitate to medium just because its the standard/default class for new players and also its the easiest class to play (I will admit that). Also comparing what being used in in lower ranks vs whats meta is clearly too different things. You can't come to a conclusion that HHM isn't the best for that reason, like I said before since medium is the easiest class, you'll see a lot more MMH and MMM.

My thing with barricade is that the HP is insanely high, it takes more then 2 mags break. Also the height of it makes it impossible vault over and the with combination of those two things, it makes nearly impossible to get through an entrance without explosives

RPG imo is fine where it is, but like i said in my prev post just having two of them on team makes so you can basically kill a player in a spilt sec and puts your team in 3v2 scenario making its really good

[pseudo latch]

I feel like the part where im in plat seeing plat and diamond lobbies running the exact same stuff because it’s just that good is being missed somewhere. My point is that the meta doesn’t change from the lowest rung to the highest, its support mediums as far as the eye can see because it’s just that disgustingly efficient.

Barricades are chunky but only against small arms fire, explosives make quick work of them and elemental grenades are extremely efficient at flushing out corner-turtling heavies. Barricades are strong, I will admit that, but anywhere from mediocre grenade use to just good aim (which when the meta is 90% laser-beaming autos isn’t uncommon, most players past gold know how to train a headshot with their rifle of choice) can answer barricades very well.

You can vault over barricades as any class, it’s a matter of what’s above the barricade. Smart barricade use can bar doors and seal holes, which should not be changed for any reason.

RPG shelling one person out of a fight is strong yes, but so is just throwing four grenades in a direction of a team and letting god sort it out, and in either circumstance, APS isn’t uncommon in all ranks for a reason,

[dusty igloo]

If someone gets 18 kills and hits only headshots from miles away, surely you just insta ban them. No one is hitting 10 consecutive headshots with a lewis gun from the other side of the map. Also nerf lewis gun to do 24 damage, a 47 mag weapon does not need to do 25 damage

[young minnow]

True there are definitely way more MHH than MMM

[sleek flame]

Welp it was a good run

[cobalt lava]

well medium is a support class. it's fine that it's support is strong. the issue is that the fcar unfortunately exists so you aren't sacrificing team damage output by having more mediums on your team. once the fcar is nerf properly, medium should be losing 1v1s to every class (as god intended) and the class should be a lot better balanced out.

[thick sorrel]

This is an approach we can try. Not sure about the final numbers yet

[mystic pike]

@subtle solar We need a better report system. Rank is filled with cheaters. I played 5 NA rank matches this morning and 4 of them I played against hard aimbotters with walls shooting through shields. Why are we wasting money and resources on the anti cheat when it clearly doesn’t help. We need to spend our resources on a group of people that prioritize reports with video proof and get these cheaters ban on the same day. Make it easier to report with evidence and advertise the new report system every weekly update. It’s ridiculous, all you have to do is watch the top streamers stream and you will see how bad it is. Please queue EU/Asia Rank right now and I guarantee you you’ll get more than 1 cheater in the same lobby

[broken lake]

Super speed seems sick, lol

[vale acorn]

I think a zombie mode should have limited gadgets that you scavenge for on the battlefield but you can hold more charges, melee weapons and single shot pistols and shotguns, no auto weapons

[versed dagger]

buff light mains' brain

[vocal rampart]

When running CL-40 you just need bring the Data Reshaper gadget to counter the APS Turret. They gave it insane range for this very purpose.

[rough herald]

just because there are counter play dose not mean its balnce

[pseudo latch]

Until suddenly someone does do that legit and they’re banned for playing the game. The moment you start adding “ban player for doing X” scripts that don’t have extremely forgiving tolerances people start getting false bans, a lot of people.

Lewis does not need more nerfs. The only guns that do RN are FCAR and LH1, and even then, other guns should be buffed up more than they need to be nerfed down.

@cobalt lava medium is a shining example of why the best support shouldn’t also be the best damage, and the best generalist, because there’s nothing they can’t do. Fuck I wouldn’t even mind FCAR if it weren’t for the fact that every other gun is basically meta based on how well it works into a medium with an FCAR. Medium has become a Brawl Meta Knight, half the meta is decided by how well it can answer medium and it’s nonsense.

@vocal rampart must be nice for medium to have each and every one of their weaknesses get an answer. Wish light and heavy got half that love.

[fleet sedge]

So when I was introduced to to the game I was told "play with a set up that is fun for you to play with" and I have been playing light sense then because I find it fun. So when I am here and I see people asking for the light to be removed it a bad suggestion because the game has been crafted around three classes. Lights being glass canons with high damage low health. Medium doing support. And heavy having more of a spray'n pray style. And they all work nicely but when you have a player base of mostly mediums and heavies because light is challenging to play. Complains will start coming in about "oh this and that weapon needs more damage". But there is a balance that already exists and if the light continues to get nerfed the balance will be off. Instead of asking for some thing to be removed or nerfed, we need to start asking for buffs to things.

Embark, y'all are doing an amazing job keep up the great work.

[drifting gorge]

Omg, a non bitchy and constructive argument in game feedback? No way

[zenith scarab]

Amen for that

[radiant imp]

Add the ability to buy individual items from store packs (by @shy token and @radiant imp)

What we propose is that the option to buy individual items is made available to not only increase sales of cosmetics but also satisfaction with customisation within and with the game itself.

You could still make it viable by using a method of (i.e pack multibucks cost ÷ items in bundle = individual price) this would allow a lot of people to pick and choose what they want to customise their character with, in a game with as much customsation as this already has, it just makes sense.

It would also give you a metric on what items are most popular and which aren't and invest more time and energy into making similar items perhaps to maximise capital.```

[weary forge]

They said it could not be done (nah fr tho why everyone so upset, we need more buffs less nurfs bc this game will turn into ow2 with everyone getting nurfed so hard until no class is dynamic or creative anymore.)

[silent cargo]

they are working on it but somehow ppl are persistant especially when they can make tons of money making hacks

[night glen]

These challenges, and the time they require to complete can just plain SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for putting NO THOUGHT into them.

[sleek flame]

Out of 8 games 2 were WITHOUT cheaters

[brisk ruin]

The Thermal view needs a major rework or something

[vale acorn]

I saw one guy had a weekly where it was just win one match of bank it

[scarlet jackal]

Friday and weekends worst time to play. I have similar experience, after one tournament win with cheating team loose at the end I have 5 games in a row with cheaters, even two separate teams of enemies. So -8 fame points after such great experience.

[quick coyote]

Fucking ridiculous. Ranked on Asia server is completely infested with cheaters. FIX THIS SHIT. what the hell? This Thank#2081 GUY is in DIamond he has been cheating hard aimbotting ALL WEEK. i have reported him NEARLY EVERY DAY. THis is just crazy I want a refund on all my battlepass. SERIOUSLY. On Asia every. SINGLE. Match has a cheater It's a wrecked server.

[bleak sorrel]

3 ranked queues, the same cheater in two of them. Fix your shit man, 5ranked queues, 3 cheater lobbies.

[wanton rose]

Pls embark stop what you are doing rn and focus on a good anticheat, we dont give a shit about cosmetics just make the game playable

[grizzled hornet]

A maid outfit would be a better use of their time.

[near snow]

flamethrower makes power shift very much unfun, they just sit there in their bubbles surrounded by baricades then out dps you with the stupidest weapon. just by sitting its fat ass on an aps turret

[pseudo latch]

They are literally updating their anticheat practices weekly, it’s not for a lack of trying

[shell nacelle]

buff sniper

[fleet sedge]

I love this game so it is never fun watching people complain about it all day.

[glossy panther]

they have separate teams for each task and anti-cheat is being updated every week, please think with common sense

[misty jasper]

I care about cosmetics. As do many other players. I care about fixing anticheat too. Please people stop leaving comments that speak for everyone. Just say your own opinion.

For those of you saying “there are still so many cheaters tho”:
Embark DOES NOT WANT cheaters in their game. It doesn’t benefit them to have cheaters cuz it makes people whine and the game unfair. They’re trying to update their anti cheat. I don’t code or do any of that stuff, but I know that shit is hard af. But if you think you know more than an Embark dev that is trained in comp sci and game security, sure go ahead and whine.

Give constructive feedback..you can say “there are still cheaters” as an update to embark devs so that they know it’s still a problem. But whining and cursing out embark doesn’t do shit except make yourself look bad.

[dusky osprey]

Hello,
Just nerf or remove the tazer... it's so bad and toxic
Bye

[shy token]

Add the ability to buy individual items from store packs (by @shy token and @radiant imp)

What we propose is that the option to buy individual items is made available to not only increase sales of cosmetics but also satisfaction with customisation within and with the game itself.

You could still make it viable by using a method of (i.e pack multibucks cost ÷ items in bundle = individual price) this would allow a lot of people to pick and choose what they want to customise their character with, in a game with as much customsation as this already has, it just makes sense.

It would also give you a metric on what items are most popular and which aren't and invest more time and energy into making similar items perhaps to maximise capital.```

[bleak sorrel]

Yet there are cheaters in nearly every lobby. If they're working on it and continuously updating it, why does it feel like the number of cheaters per 10 sets haven't gone down? Literally played a cheater i met two weeks ago again yesterday (I mean blatantly cheating, not hiding just full on hack).

[thick sorrel]

nobody wants to learn or evolve, just endless balancing, huh?

[drifting gorge]

Fr

[crystal umbra]

I've never purchased a cosmic in a game.

Although I am considering spending money on cosmetics for the first time in the finals, I am currently ready and will to spend money on a go fund me that Embarc creates specifically for the development of this game

[normal kite]

Hello, skill issue, bye

[rough herald]

i love learning dude but this shit, this hard counter shit need to stop, i have enough of that in overwatch
like we are talking about medium here like yeah there is counter play in using the data convert thing but what about heavy? there no counter play for heavy
No other weapon or spec or what ever in the game require me to swap something to make the match up even playable

[pseudo breach]

Day 30 of asking to put map rotation on a timer for casual. Really sick of getting Horizon and or Vegas 90% of the time.

Also, can we please get South African servers and maybe a latency indicator?

[teal siren]

What is happening with queue times? I cant find ranked game for 30+ min. Anyway has the same problem?

[shrewd schooner]

The thermal vision seems to not work well at a certain amount of distance to the enemy

[violet elbow]

double heal beam shouldnt be a thing

[worn sigil]

Do you have cross-play turned on? Otherwise you're gonna be waiting a while

[wanton rose]

Its not about spending money, i have purchased some cosmetics myself to support the devs because the finals is my favorite game atm and i want it to be playable but seeing the game in this state is just frustrating. This is a competitive fps game and a really fucking good anti cheat should be their number 1 priority, nothing else. Like hell a HWID ban cant be that hard right ? Thats just one thing that comes to mind and im sure the devs are capable of doing better.

[dusty igloo]

First off, no one is hitting constant headshots for THE ENTIRE TOURNAMENT. Second of all the Lewis gun is accurate enough, and has a mag of 47, it needs to do 24 damage. @pseudo latch What the fuck do you mean the one thing heavy has going for them, as a heavy main you are completely wrong, heavy is so OP, how about they nerf their boring weapon and buff some of the other stuff

[vocal rampart]

I was addressing his example. You gave nothing, so...

[ebon peak]

Bro, big companies like valve, EA, Blizzard themselves cannot solve this cheating issue even after hoarding billions. Embark is a small team and they are on the right path to implement a good anti cheat

[pseudo latch]

Sure, but setting static limits creates problems unless said limits are completely unobtainable, in which they become redundant against a lot of cheaters anyways.

Heavy and light have been nerfed enough, how about we buff them for a change? Lewis getting its season 1 recoil back wouldn’t be that bad a change for starters. Or how about giving M60 an identity to differentiate it from Lewis?

Or how about we make half of heavies flat out unusable guns usable instead of nerfing the one fucking thing heavy has going for him at this point.

@vocal rampart I didn’t no, I’m just more remarking about how medium has less and less weaknesses by the patch, while the other two classes have glaring, abusable flaws regardless of their builds.

[woeful arch]

😤 Currently in a Quick Cash where one team hoards the vault and jumps from one side of the map to the other working on the timer to win. This is so disrespectful to other teams and the game is designed for this to be possible.

[dull nova]

It would be cool if you yourself could add attachments to the weapon that you are you using and then the more you play with the weapon you get more different attachments

[dense arrow]

The Nama Tama charm that It's like a tamagotchi is bugged

[honest verge]

Keep up the good work. I'm enjoying dematerialize a lot. There are a lot of avenues for creativity.

[earnest sierra]

why this far? i sometimes don't understand the respawn system

[drifting pawn]

yea not wasting my time on this 4k damage 100+ meter contract. i refuse to intentionally throw games for my team like all snipers do. don't care if it's quickplay

[thick sorrel]

@rough herald Thats a point. Gadgets need to be gadgets - means not too impactful to overshadow skill.

[warm marsh]

nerf cheaters

[normal kite]

lol, best nerfing comment so far

[near snow]

and buff teammates

[pseudo latch]

At this point it’s gotta be deliberate. Probably to better punish teams who lose fights by making it harder to just dogpile back onto a recovering team.

[cyan crane]

Actually ban some cheaters

[quasi fiber]

light sword and dash is broken needs to be nerfed in some kind of way

[tulip dove]

People keep wanting to be spoon fed with these challenges, not everything has to be so easy, it’s complaint after complaint 😭

Just play the game or don’t do the challenge HOLLLYYY

[stray rampart]

Spawn system definitely needs some work. I understand the concept of punishing the team who just died but seriously this is too far sometimes. Like you don't even have a way to fight back sometimes because how far it is

[shell nacelle]

played one game of ranked and faced a medium aimbotting with FCAR. stopped play immediately

[earnest sierra]

well we did get wiped in the pic there was a light from my team at the cashout fighting for his life and me and my meduim mate coin spawned and we was this far from the light idk why this is so weird

[near dew]

Heavy mesh shield sens slider when?

[honest verge]

Consider whether or not goo should burn someone encased if the goo is on at all rather than if its touching the contestant as well

[rustic snow]

How does my friend with the same rank as mine Rank up from Gold 4 - plat 1 when I won 3 consecutives tournaments and was fraggin, but my friend lost the previous tournament and I didn't ranked up top plat?

[wary tapir]

remove mines

[rough herald]

Zipline would something randomly deside to be a zip with out line, and sometime when i try to place the zip on a roof it just said nah then place itself on the base of the building (happen alot when place it far away)

[scarlet rampart]

why is it taking me so long to rank up from gold 4 to gold 3. ive won so many games

[fleet sedge]

[fierce terrace]

Absolutely agree with your point. I'm thinking about quitting the game till this quest is replaced

[night glen]

That is what I mean by the devs not thinking the challenges through. They seem to think that doing something more times is more fun and the more difficult the task, the more times you should have to to it. They are not thinking about how it takes away from playing the game WITH your team or how much frustration is generates. They are looking at data and saying, we could get more of this by having players do more of that. There is a reason players are not performing the actions their data is showing as rarely executed compared to other aspects of the game, it is because most players don't like that aspect of the gameplay. To them, it is all about the data. That makes it even more frustrating. Different players like different things, but just because a small percentage of the players like doing some things doesn't mean it should be foreced on everyone.

[quartz spruce]

FIX YOUR ANTICHEAT

[frail prawn]

Sword and dash is not broken wym??? There's a glitch with the sword than yeah, its very broken, but is not the dash or the sword, its the glitch with the sword what needs to be fixed afap

first clip without glitch, second clip is using the glitch

Hopefully it gets fixed soon

@quasi fiber yeah, its a glitch than lets you hit almost twice as possible by canceling the animation of the sword attack, Im also a sword user and even I think its broken and should gets fixed

[kind light]

why there is so much traffic accidents in Seoul during the load screen? Please fix

[tight verge]

Ok. I have a massive complaint. Im just gonna say it... YOU are the problem... Yes YOU. The one reading this right now. You make BAD balancing requests. Why? Because you are inherently biased! You are thinking about balance from YOUR experiences playing the game mode that YOU play the most playing the class and loadout that YOU main. This game is rock paper scissors NOT CALL OF DUTY. If you want to play a perfectly balanced game where you have an equal chance at winning against any class in any senareo, go play battlefield, cod or xdefiant. This is not that game. To counter a class or build that hard counters you, play with YOUR TEAM. If you don't counter that build, your teammate probably DOES!

Well this isn't as true anymore because you guys RUINED the rock paper scissors balance with your TERRIBLE, SHORTSIDED, NAIVE balance suggestions. Now, ak, fcar and lewis gun are just god tier at any range and the meta is stale af. Like, why do these wepons out damage strictly close range wepons at close range? It makes no sense. Fcar should NOT win against sword or shotgun close range EVER because you bet those close range weapons will never win at range. Every gun should have a clear strength and weakness.

I think what needs to happen to appease everyone is have separate weapon and gadget balance for ranked/competitive play vs casual play. Maybe ban certain gadgets in gamemodes where they ruin the experience (sniper and aps in powershift for example).

[normal kite]

Bruh... Lets just remove all the guns as well so u don't need to get hurt? smh

[near snow]

why if i block someone who is cheating do i get put into a match with them the very next round? what the fuck is the point of blocking people if it does nothing

[quasi fiber]

if its just a glitch then yes i agree that is all that needs to be fixed. i dont think the sword or dash on its own is broken just the combo and kds would prove that

[thorn lark]

New Weekly Content Idea, The Chair Update! Every light user gets restricted by sitting on a chair throughout the whole game. Skins for the chairs can also be bought and unlocked, When the match starts, lights move 10x slower than heavys by sliding their feet to move the chair (you cannot lift the chair, only painfully scratch the floor moving it). Jumppads or ziplines cannot be used, if used they fling off the chair and lay flat on the floor untill wiped or respawned. its honestly a buff for lights.

[spice lintel]

the low gravity is so annoying tbh

[drifting gorge]

This

[violet wing]

another buff ? they are fine without the chair, IMO they should probably even revert lights to pre-ambulatory state.

[quaint forge]

Bread barricade skin plssss

[quick coyote]

whats even your point at the end, it's not like devs nerfed any other weapon. AR's in general actually received a range nerf

[pseudo latch]

I have a minor complaint, this isn’t feedback, it’s bellyaching, and that doesn’t help anyone

[crimson torrent]

We should have a tips and tricks chat here

[grizzled hornet]

I’m a simple person. I see a lotta words I post a yap gif.

[royal pumice]

Please for the love of god, remove Las Vegas Sandstorm again

[willow leaf]

Guy says everyone gives bad balancing requests and that this game can’t be balanced then he proceeds to make balancing requests. lol what a clown. Everyone’s wrong except you huh bud?

[misty jasper]

I mean if he stopped typing right before his balance requests, it would be pretty true. Except the part that EVERYONE makes bad balancing requests. But yes everyone has their bias and there have been many complaints that clearly show that they're biased.

[patent torrent]

Grapple hook recharge based on distance grappled or travelled with grapple, with up to two or even three charges, but only at very short ranges. would also need to increase cooldown dynamically per charges used within a rolling [normal/current cooldown duration time in seconds] window, with each additional charge used increasing recharge by no less than 65-85%, with the increases stacking in tandem (or in layers, depending on what performs best)

this would allow for greater flexibility if you accidentally tap your grapple in closed quarters, or want to chain a few swings alongside a building.

[vapid crystal]

Can we get a randomise option for our reload etc animations? Especially since now there's more fun animations to get and be gotten!

[near snow]

make it so in ranked if you have someone backout that is not in a party with you you dont lose rank. i can understand leaving in quickplay but this is ranked, stop being a fucking loser and finish out the match

[smoky ocean]

The Healing Ray has a bug where occasionally you will enter a match and the healing gun wont work for the ENTIRE MATCH, it will turn on, but it is incapable of locking onto teamates, this bug has only one fix, and that's switching your build ENTIRELY in PowerShift, but if you're playing anything else, then screw you.

[pseudo latch]

Bro people who are complaining about “play the game” weeklies are crazy

Cashing money and stealing boxes are literally part of the gameplay, what’s the problem?

[slim sun]

creator mode ??

[nocturne canopy]

Just fix ranked system and ban cheaters, thats all its needs!

[drifting gorge]

Ratio

[wintry trout]

the fact I can't outsprint a heavy chasing me with a flamethrower as a medium is actually fucking absurd
flamethrower needs a significant movement speed nerf, or heavy does
in general the difference in movement speed between classes is not nearly wide enough
also, riot shield is completely busted. even when they're swinging or sprinting, there's no evidence of a frontal opening in their defense. they can just beat the fuck out of you and you can't even fight back. no balance recommended, just remove it, it's a stupid weapon for this game

[cosmic narwhal]

i really want to enter a private match with some friends so we can practise and test guns and strats, but 6 people minimum is to much for me so ive never been able to actually enter one.

[lone lake]

Sandals 🩴 as throwing knives skin

[bitter aspen]

the fcar should win against the sword, if you're hitting headshots,

i think the med assault rifles need a rework all around to their respective roles, the akm's fire-rate should be slow but does more headshot damage thus making a great close to med range weapon, the famas needs a aug scope and have its falloff damage buffed, thus making it the med- long range killer it should always been, the fcar is the jack of all trades it can be used all ranges but doesnt make it great at either but a good all rounder

[night glen]

Very true !!!!! The challenges are supposed to make the game more fun. These types don't.

[versed cloud]

It would be really cool if we could have different melee animations just like we have reload animations! It would be satisfying to see someone get punched with a boxing glove or some brass knuckles, or maybe a knife? Elbow only can't be where the story ends! (It would have the same stats as a normal melee attack)

[obtuse garden]

Fr 😂😂

[pseudo latch]

You can tho lmao. A walking heavy is way slower than a sprinting medium, and the range is 7 meters. Literally just turn around and run. Flamer is garbage

[chrome eagle]

the finals is unique game but few adjustment that I hope to see them in play
1- buff the sniper to be one shot one kill
2- remove sniper from power shift mod
3- reduce cool down evasive dash or let them have more than three
4- make the practice map accessible with party no matter if its two
5- make more map/ mod 5v5 engaging and take inspiration layout from SYShorizon
6- make the knive equipe as melee attake rather than main weapon.
7- do vote maping at the end of the match
8- kill cam is needed in some mode/map.
9- show the ping in scoreboard

[swift skiff]

Some of those suggestions are so bad

[misty jasper]

remove cool down on evasive dash is just..wow.
do you mean reduce??

[dusty ether]

The finals is looking for a sponsor, would be funny to see, game sponsored by Coca-Cola or something else and cosmetics, items or gadgets with that colab

[mellow elm]

You gain no advantage for destroying equipment if the cooldown starts on placement.

There is no reward for destroying equipment, it gives you no advantage or window of opportunity, if your opponent can simply replace it when it is destroyed. Take the APS turret for instance. It doesn't have a set number of charges, and it deletes glitch grenades. Destroying it should give you a window of opportunity to get grenades on the platform.

But because it has a 30 second cooldown, it means that by the time you've found a decent angle to destroy it, the medium can just put it back.

This problem is exacerbated with two or more mediums. And this problem extends to the guardian turret as well.

I believe a fair balancing solution would be to begin the APS & Turret cooldowns when the units are destroyed. Dismantling the turret should also incur a cooldown based on the remaining health of the device.

This change would keep the strength of the APS & Turret, but reward attackers with a window of opportunity once the equipment has been destroyed.```

[oak kernel]

Robot style posting. Agree a bit, but also robo posting

[coral axle]

change the netcode back before the update

[sonic spoke]

yeah!!!! 😦

[tight verge]

haha ya I did notice that when writing. I tried not to make balance requests but instead more broad comments on the state of balance. At least Im self aware enouph to see that hypocrisy tho. can't say the same about 99% of people in this chat. This game hasn't found its identity yet I think. Embark needs to find it and stick to it.

[pale turret]

Buff C4

[normal kite]

If this isn't implemented for next years april fools im gonna be very disappointed...

[thorn lark]

@drifting gorge @violet wing @normal kite I hear yall out, so to make it even better. Instead of a Chair..... It's a hi-chair.

[violet elbow]

been noticing some fps drops ever since the last update, unsure what causes it, actually stuttering slightly at times and dropping down to sub 100 frames on a 4090 and a 7800X3D

[pseudo latch]

1. Absolutely not, being able to one tap any class was half the mentality behind gutting the nuke, and at least those had a minute long cooldown.
2. Removing things from modes is not the solution. Power shift platform in general should have better cover than it does
3. You want lights to be invincible while we’re at it? If lights could dash whenever they wanted they’d be impossible to hit
4. The only good suggestion you have so far.
5. More maps will come, give it time.
6. Ah yeah let’s also give light the ability to deal 320 damage in addition to their primary. Magnificent idea
7. This isn’t halo, that wouldn’t even work with the current version of the game

Eight and nine are fine but the rest of this comes off like satire, holy shit.

[odd atlas]

I think that whenever you receive money, it may be good if it was clearly displayed. For example, when starting a cashout, if + $2000 showed up, similar to the "detected" warning

[vast quail]

tabbing out crashing my game then not allowing me to join back into a comp game and also giving me a timeout is a bit silly

[misty jasper]

as i see it, it's identity is trying not to be another boring cod clone. but ppl constantly pressure devs to try to make the game more like cod with their requests and its gross

[upbeat glen]

I used to play this game every chance I could get but now I hardly play it, I don’t know what you could improve but I was good at the game then I went back on after a while and I was terrible, now i feel like if I get back on I’ll hardly have fun. Idk thought I would just say this. And change the randomly generated names please I don’t want to be known as gorilla enjoyer 8272 it’s so annoying for inviting new friends.

[cobalt lava]

fcar and lewis have literally only been nerfed

[hidden blaze]

Is it possible not to get banned as soon as someone's game crashes? My friend's game had crashed twice within a month, and every time he restarts the game he gets a 10 minute ban. Is it possible to change it? Like you should not get punished when your game crashes lol. Or at least make the "quit" time longer? idk

[drifting gorge]

Ok buddy lol

They don't dominate that much, the only one I can really see being an issue still is FCAR

[dire lance]

Is it normal to get two of the same challenge in the circuit and have them not track evenly?

[manic crypt]

Im not sure if this is intentional but why does the model 1887 reload more shotgun shells then it actually holds?

[willow leaf]

The stun gun should be replaced with a stun aps type gadget. So it would be a placable gadget that would have a damage radius just like the aps that stuns anyone inside of it. This allows light to have a defensive gadget while also making it more balanced as you can just shoot it and destroy it

[blazing loom]

Yup, I got that too

[wind frost]

buff visibility

[ruby mantle]

Sword should definitly have an intern cooldown after 3 hits, that's bullshit that the small could do -292 in 4 hits, that he LITTERALY can't miss, and I can only shot like half a magazine before I'm dead

[misty jasper]

if a sword gets that close to you and manages to get 4 entire hits on you, they deserve that kill.

[slow sandal]

can we get skins for the "chicken wing" (melee attack)?

[grand quarry]

Having a mine challenge while the spectator bug is still ongoing is really dumb

[quick coyote]

Player blocking doesn’t work, I was put into a match with an AFK heavy, I then chose to leave. I searched for another match just to be put into the same match again (I blocked him here), I left that one just to join back the third time AGAIN. Fix the game

[stuck heron]

is there anything that works anyways

[cunning flame]

flamethrower and sword need to be nerfed this game is doo doo

[keen sphinx]

I said this over at steam but I'll put it over here too. Message for the Devs, please add this feature:
If you read this, please give us a way to disable health bars, they are just too big I can't see anyting when I shoot from long range. I want too be able too see only the enemy.
Thank you. This would be huge if you guys do it.

[jagged mortar]

blocking them only stops them from your vc and inviting you to partys of friends.

[snow panther]

We want cloak nerf reversed!!!!!

[modern wedge]

the main way to combat both those is staying away

[rapid vapor]

can we please PLEASE have solo performance based ranking!? having a dumb or non present team brings MY ranking down?

[icy anvil]

Hello I am a college student trying to make a finals team/league at my esports program

[worn sigil]

The whole point of smoke is to block visibility, I don't wanna be beamed as a light by an FCAR across the map, and it's great for stealing

[pseudo latch]

• M60 needs an identity that differentiates it from the Lewis Gun. They should reduce its damage, but increase its fire rate, and narrow its hipfire cone, turning it into heavies “SMG” option.
• Lewis’ recoil nerf should be reverted if we’re keeping FCAR where it is. Heavy having zero effective weapon options past 30 is hella limiting.
• heavy should be 15% faster while holding the sledgehammer to make it more consistent and make heavy a little harder to kite
• MGL grenades should detonate on impact with enemy players and structures, its way too inconsistent as is because of how fussy grenade physics are. Being able to direct hit people would make it more consistent without making it that much easier to use.
• KS23 should really be perfectly accurate, at least when ADS. Having fate decide wheee those slugs can go in fights gets old really fast. I’d still love it if they reworked it into a hitscan pellet shotgun but I understand why it’s not one
• Flamethrower needs something. It’s puny range combined with pitiful damage means you need to put insane effort into frankly unforgivable payoff. Give it back its beta range and give it some more damage.
• anti grav cube is a 50% radius increase from going from “kinda bad” to “really really good

[green sand]

The biggest issue with solo ranking isn’t having a bad team, but having a team member leave the game. You automatically lose and get knocked down a peg. Zero chance. Especially with team wipes still killing 30% of your score despite being two people.

[trim ginkgo]

Hey I think the 4000dmg 100 meters might be glitch Ive been on the game and Been using the Sniper getting head shots but the score of it not going up, whats with that?

[pallid jetty]

Post I saw just now. More specifically, selecting which modes to queue for at the same time.

https://www.reddit.com/r/thefinals/s/59PXUaYuqi

[young flame]

After my suspension expired (for leaving a match) in ranked, i cant seem to find any matches in asia. I tried all regions (turned on and off crossplay) and I still got nothing, ive waited 20 minutes each region. Are the devs aware of this?

[muted berry]

Glad to see that after 2 weeks of bumping into someone called Azrael the guy still hanging around in every party that I play and the guy is the most evident hacker ever.

[mellow elm]

Honestly when you lights get the stun gun nerf I am gonna laugh so damn hard. That cheese is so whack, what's funny is most people who run it play at like 2 kills 6 deaths haha... Next week is gonna be goooooooooooood

[ashen garnet]

yea stun gun is frustrating af lol

[misty jasper]

it's better for preventing cashout steals. but nope most lights will just go for the easy kill and waste it

[drowsy stump]

Lights are gonna cry soon. Keep up the great work embark.