💣┇weapons-gadgets

[unkempt moss]

I do this to lights and mediums.

[lone charm]

running it with goo gun means you can trap it mid air

[icy egret]

What does "Zawg" mean?

[lone charm]

it can break enemy fortifications and groups

[lone charm]

"dawg" but my brain is rotted

[tall cipher]

i run light m11 glitch nades nullifier pyro nade

[unkempt moss]

If you dont think heavy has the funnest gadgets we cant associate with each other.

[lone charm]

idk light does have some pretty good contenders

nullifier feels so funny to hit

[tall cipher]

all light gadgets are mostly stall or disruption

[lone charm]

i mean on the surface yeah

[tall cipher]

and im not good at being a team player so i just do disruption with light

[lone charm]

i dont main light but i'm sure people who know what theyre doing can absolutely cook with like the gateway

[icy egret]

I run similar on Light when I dare to tread it. Dash/M11/Vanish Nullifier Frag or Heal. But I also find it boring as hell because it's so easy to just stomp people on that.

[tall cipher]

gateway is op

[icy egret]

Where's the challenge? It doesn't require mechanical skill.

[lone charm]

i usually run v9 / any smg, cloak, h+, nullifier, and i forgot the last gadget

[tall cipher]

if your a movement demon its fun as hell

[lone charm]

but its really fun if you are stealthy with cloak

[tall cipher]

i sometimes run dagger cloak/ sword cloak

[main monolith]

exactly why i use light (i have a skill issue)

[icy egret]

This is where I hope respec order comes through. Faster Heavy means more interesting heavy, more ability to chase. Slower Scout means more skill has to be put in it.

Of course in a different form than the test but it would be good with a supposed balance pass.

[main monolith]

well is it really a skill issue if i started 6ish days ago

[tall cipher]

they should not slow down light. wheres the fun in that. theres something so great about fast movement

[icy egret]

Light is still going to be fast.

[tall cipher]

yes, but it needs to be faster i think

[main monolith]

yeah and we should add omnimovement too (sarcasm)

[icy egret]

No.

[tall cipher]

or maybe a mobility ability like jump pad(also srcasm)

[icy egret]

What if Light had a Grappling Hook.

[main monolith]

i need to alert the devs to this idea.

[tall cipher]

well thats genius. totally no one ever thought about adding that

[icy egret]

Eheh.

[icy egret]

In seriousness, I could see them messing around with giving Light either Flying Fox or Jump Pad, but they wouldn't do it.

[wary bough]

turrets would be cool as flamethrowers too for close range defence

[tall cipher]

yeah maybe add a detonation button as well

[tall cipher]

maybe april first

[wary bough]

that would be cool, or a 2 second detonation timer before blowing up on health depletion

[tall cipher]

i feel like on death would be a little to good.

maybe manual detonation

cause on death detonation would make them landmines that have hp that shoot you

[wary bough]

yeah that's fair, I feel like every class is kind of balanced for weapons in similarity, though heavy could get a ironsight sniper with low amo and low reload

[tall cipher]

yeah. they probably don't do that to keep heavys from just sniping in the back

[sudden pewter]

What is “flying fox”? This is the second time you’ve mentioned it and I’m still lost.

[icy egret]

Flying Fox is a kiwi term for Zipline.

I'm a New Zealander, it's just what I'm used to calling those things. Sorry.

[kindred gorge]

That just sounds pretentious for the sake of it, why is it called that?

[distant cargo]

Charge and slam is mid

[unkempt moss]

Id say mesh is the most boring heavy spec

[compact tundra]

Both of y'all lack creativity, mesh and C&S are both tons of fun

[unkempt moss]

Charge and slam is at least fun.

Saying the GooGun King lacks creativity is a wild com

[tall cipher]

you see, the reason i don't play cashout is because i get trash teams but the enemies are absolute sweats. and im the only one doing anything on my team

[unkempt moss]

The problem with CnS is that the coolest thing about it is the hardest to set up and usually just used for weak damage on the end of the charge. Getting big ass slams is awesome. But the main use by everyone seems to be the insta charge corny button.

[tall cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-roll-rick-ashley-never-gonna-give-you-up-gif-22113173

https://tenor.com/view/rick-roll-rick-ashley-never-gonna-give-you-up-gif-22113173

[unkempt moss]

One more time

[tall cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-roll-rick-ashley-never-gonna-give-you-up-gif-22113173

[unkempt moss]

It will surely work if you try again. Youll be past the threshold

[tall cipher]

just press the blue button

[unkempt moss]

I have to do work for your joke?

[tall cipher]

ig nore the rick astley nvr gona give you up

im sure thats just a glitch

[unkempt moss]

Yeah probably.

[tardy light]

that’s more often the case for me in point break lol

in cashout my teammates are usually awesome

[kindred gorge]

Look out guys, comedy is peaking right here

[tardy light]

in point break I watch a guy sniping over my body for 20 seconds

[kindred gorge]

Rick roll failed embed in the big 26

[tardy light]

Every good comedian uses crowd work

[tardy light]

What’s pretentious about it? It sounds cool and nicknames exist for stuff everywhere all the time

Ima start calling it a flying fox for fun

@icy egret do i have the pass

[kindred gorge]

The Z pass

I can admit it sounds neat but I have trouble seeing the connection

[icy egret]

Yes.

[tardy light]

well, it’s definitely “flying.”
idk about fox

But can you explain what “under the weather” means or “the bees knees” or “mad as a hatter” tons of stuff is nonsensical at face value

[icy egret]

I have no idea why it's called that.

[kindred gorge]

Mad as a hatter is pretty on the nose with the fairy tale but the others I’m not fully sure on

[tardy light]

Maybe it’s cause u kinda look like one of these silly things?

[kindred gorge]

Dang what a cutie

[tardy light]

It existed before the book

[kindred gorge]

Yes because both come from the fact that hat makers of the time used tools made with mercury and even wore them on their head which made them develop mental issues

That is kinda niche knowledge though so I concede

[tardy light]

can you do that level of internet sleuthing to find out why it’s called a flying fox now

[kindred gorge]

I knew that one off the top of my head if you’d believe it

[tardy light]

I believe you

[kindred gorge]

Neat, it is based on the animal

I apologize I let my dislike of British people effect a New Zealander unfairly

[tardy light]

https://tenor.com/view/run-kiwi-cute-bird-gif-15759703

our poor kiwis and aussies have to deal with OCE gaming… give them grace

[distant cargo]

They use it as a desperate attempt at a final stand like a cornered animal

Lights can just dash away, mediums can also move out of the way or redirect it with a jump pad, and heavies take minimal damage

[ember sail]

Heavy spec that's a big rocket you ride, build on and plow through buildings with. Goo Plane but real

[random depot]

how dare your culture be different ahh comment

flyingfox sounds funny

[kindred gorge]

Dude I literally doubled back and said it was neat

[random depot]

didnt you order extra shame with that apology?

[indigo nexus]

As long as the hobby is popular, there’ll be a demand for such content that it is wise to capitalise on.

[icy egret]

which do we prefer?

or this one

Level 176 dagger player on the enemy team. I'm quivering.

[indigo nexus]

The first one

[icy egret]

I thought that too.

Can they buff spear already? Spears are my favourite archetype of weapons in any game but the current spear is just too bad to use.

Isn't the melee rework coming S12 though? That's only 5 months away.

Ah nope, it's next season. Great.

I'll wait to see what they do with the spear then.

[icy egret]

If what we receive for spear is nice, the Mandate Javelin will probably be mine.

[foggy abyss]

XP54 or ARN220

[icy egret]

I'd lean towards XP, but it depends what you specifically are good at using.

[sudden pewter]

ARN has better range

[spring oasis]

3rd one

[tropic sage]

ARN-220

Good range, extra magazine, recoil is just pulling down.

It's like a 0.1s TTK difference compared to the XP-54 it's barely anything.

37m of range just play far with it, you have better range than most of the guns.

[last steeple]

Arn EVERYDAY

Speaking of pure meta Arn is way better

[icy egret]

I've been seeing way more XP recently than ARN.

But they're so similar that's it's like. Propane vs. Propanol.

(Describing something as a minute difference by using chemistry. Bah.)

[tardy light]

except propane and propanol are not similar at all in certain contexts so be careful with that analogy

better off comparing two hydrocarbons then adding an alcohol. actually apples to oranges

also xp and arn arent even that similar imo

[icy egret]

That's true. Which was why I was hoping no one here knew organic chemistry. Lol.

I haven't done organics in a long while. At a cusory glance, they look similar.

[tardy light]

it was the subject of my degree. a little change can make a big difference!

[icy egret]

Very, very true.

I never much liked organics. At least it wasn't RedOx though.

[candid vessel]

ARN 100%

[candid vessel]

Propane and propanol are completely different

[candid vessel]

I dont blame you organic chemistry is so ass

[candid vessel]

I did it for a-level and it nearly killed me

[candid vessel]

You have a DEGREE in chemistry????

You are actually a genius omg

[tardy light]

idk about that

[candid vessel]

Nah man chemistry is hard as FUCK

[tardy light]

i agree. but i dont think a degree (at least, in the US) means the person actually knows a lot about the subject lol. its an introduction. theres sooo much i dont know. and plenty of dumb educated people exist. i wouldnt glorify it. but thank you im flattered

[unkempt moss]

Youre doing chemistry and law? Good gravy

Take a breath

[tardy light]

Well, I finished chemistry first. So not simultaneously

none are as hard as the finals imo

I sweat more in ranked matches than studying for exams.

[unkempt moss]

Lol

Is there a reason you wanted to mix those two degrees? Is there a specialized law field for chemicals. Im sure there is but I know nothing of either.

[tardy light]

so, law in America is a post graduate program. Everyone in law school has a college degree. Law is very very diverse. There is law involved pretty much everywhere. Sports, medicine, cars, idk. Everything. I didn’t specifically plan to mix the two. But while going through my chem program i realized I wanted to get out of the lab, and found law as an alternative.

My plan is patents. It helps to have a technical background to understand some inventions. This summer I am interning at a firm specializing in that. Last week was my first week actually. So far it’s very interesting and I am happy with it

[pastel wyvern]

dude I switched back to the default long model skin after using the eclipse shade for a while and it genuinely felt so much better to use

its like weener size

at first the smaller one is easier to control

but as you get used to it , the length actually begins guiding your aim

[tardy light]

Damn, I never feel skin placebo like that

[pastel wyvern]

and honestly just holding the longer gun looks and feels much cooler

[pastel wyvern]

i picked model initially for its length so having that taken away for better animations kinda hurt

[tardy light]

what do you mean you picked it for its length??

[pastel wyvern]

embark please buff model by making the gun's barrel even longer

[pastel wyvern]

the viewmodels for it are awesome

youre literally just holding a metal pipe towards people

[tardy light]

hmmm ok… why did u get the short skin in the first place then?

[pastel wyvern]

i sucked a lot with the gun ( i suck only a little now ) so the animations on the shorter skins being better for spacing shots helped me a lot

probably will switch back to it if my aim feels really bad again

but currently I'm a happy long ass gun user

[tardy light]

I don’t know if youre trying to convince me or yourself but im happy for u and hope you stay satisfied

[pastel wyvern]

im not coping man i love long guns

i honestly need a quake style viewmodel for the model where the gun is perfectly at the center of the screen

it'd be so awesome

[tardy light]

I don’t think ur coping. But your thought process reminds me of my own when my ocd ass brain tries to exclude other choices so I’m happier with what I’ve chosen

[pastel wyvern]

naw im sure i will keep coming back to the shorter one when needed

[tardy light]

cause at the end of the day you’re literally using the same gun lol. U can switch skins whenever u feel like it. It isn’t deep at all

[pastel wyvern]

there is a big difference in how it feels to shoot tho

[tardy light]

I’ll admit I haven’t tried the spinny model. But every other skin in the game feels the same for me

I don’t wanna drop 800 mb just to try it out. Also my model is like lvl 2. Im not a shotgun enjoyer

[pastel wyvern]

tbh im just probably tweaking cuz of too much ospuze

[tardy light]

Maybe

[pastel wyvern]

i suggest getting a bit familiar with the model
its a quirky gun
it lets you do evil shit when you get used to its style of fighting

[tardy light]

I tried it once recently and was very frustrated with how inconsistent the spread felt

[pastel wyvern]

works really well for healbeam medium too (in casual at least)

one well placed meatshot is usually enough to give your heal target a big advantage

[tardy light]

you called it a meat shot

[pastel wyvern]

yeah a shot with all pellets connecting to their m e a t

one flesh vessel can only hold so much buckshot

[unkempt moss]

Makes sense

[cinder lotus]

Can someone tell me what the best light gun is

[unkempt moss]

Which one do you like the most?

[cinder lotus]

I use the m-11 a lot I just wanna know the best one

[pastel wyvern]

dude whatever gun feels the best to use is the best gun
the one you vibe the most with is usually the best

[unkempt moss]

Youre in luck, M11 is top 2

[pastel wyvern]

just try em out in casual and see what you like

[cinder lotus]

Thank you

[wild zenith]

brah why does matters only good best skin have to be from a bonus page 😭 😭

[tame aspen]

I’m mattering it

[cunning slate]

Add tanerite to Medium

[distant cargo]

"I'm quivering"

[candid vessel]

I always wondered if it was actually functionally different because the shot originates from a different place relative to your character

Same with the viagra p90

[candid vessel]

You already found it

[cinder lotus]

👌

[candid vessel]

Id say m11 and shak are tied for best in the game but m11 is definitely the best for light

[cinder lotus]

K i use shak on heavy

With winch

[candid vessel]

And then for medium akm and fcar are the best. Fcar is slightly more powerful but the other aspects of akm make it just as good overall imo

[cinder lotus]

Kk

[tardy light]

they’ve got the same bullet mechanics, it’s not like the original from tf2

[candid vessel]

Ah ok

[tardy light]

the spinny is just mental. Reload anims are like that all around. Take Lewis spin reload vs lewis haptic reload. You think one is faster cause you have the gun in your hand earlier although you still can’t shoot

it can totally help if the person using it is relying on visual cues

[candid vessel]

The reload animations being so good makes me even more annoyed that the LH1 has none 😭

[candid vessel]

Yes 100%

[tardy light]

I like the LH1 default anims at least

[candid vessel]

At least the m60 has the rambo skin

[tardy light]

some I find really ugly, like SA1216

[candid vessel]

Yeah thats true they are good

[candid vessel]

Honestly im not that keen on any of the animations for that thing

[tardy light]

the deploy and inspect are alright but the reloads are all so choppy

[candid vessel]

I mean its a super weird gun tbf

[tardy light]

That is true

[candid vessel]

I wish the m26 had a mythic or legendary skin that turned it into like a more conventional pump shotgun

Something like this

But i guess that wouldn’t really work because these are round reload not box reload

[icy egret]

What?

[ember sail]

There are speedloaders for tube fed shotguns just use that

[distant cargo]

Quivering is something a TPM voter would do

[icy egret]

I have no idea what "TPM" you're referring to.

[distant cargo]

Imagine larping as a New Zealander

[icy egret]

What? Are you talking about The Māori Party?

I have no idea how this is relevant whatsoever.

Or why who I vote for would be relevant to this channel.

[distant cargo]

It's called Te Pāti Māori but sure keep up the larp

[icy egret]

I know the official name for it. Don't be silly.

[stoic garden]

what in the ragebait

[distant cargo]

Its relevant to your character and the finals is the greatest self-expression of character ever

[icy egret]

I have no idea what's happening. I probably won't vote for them this year anyways.

[stoic garden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/783545628964814848/1507663570081546393/RDT_20260522_1457007659533442570590023.gif

[distant cargo]

Voting for them at all is concerning but sure

Nobody can be perfect for the entirety of their life

[icy egret]

Well I will be blocking you and moving on because you're being weird. I usually lean towards Greens or Labour anyways.

[distant cargo]

Nothing new, certain people just cant handle living outside of an echochamber

"Omg you're weird and different so scary!"

This individual thinks she's a sheep but im the weird one

[tardy light]

i cant wait for you to upgrade to orange so you can stop rage baiting every person you talk to

[distant cargo]

"Ragebait"

Again this is just echochamber brainrot

[tardy light]

very substantive argument there

[icy egret]

I genuinely have no idea what that was about. "I can guess your political party of choice by a word you used to describe an emotion."

[distant cargo]

I could tell by the profile

[stoic garden]

it's not even ragebait, it's just unprompted weirdness lowkey

[wild zenith]

i really hate that winch effectively has a doubled stun time vs cycle action guns

[distant cargo]

Keep hating

[distant cargo]

Your argument for everything is just whining about ragebait when you see something that doesn't affirm your worldview

[wild zenith]

why should winch be a guaranteed kill, but only if the target is using certain guns?

[tardy light]

https://tenor.com/view/tuff-tuff-baby-ai-baby-ai-generated-meme-gif-12917678100156115102

[distant cargo]

Why shouldn't being pulled romantically and intimately to a big muscular giant cause your immediate death

[distant cargo]

"Weirdness" and it's a basic call out

She probably knows more about American politics than the politics of her own country

[wild zenith]

Well it doesnt if the target is using a regular gun

[distant cargo]

"I live in an echochamber! Time for brainrot!"

[tardy light]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[stoic garden]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1487895021146607658/1488805555370725487/bahaha-lol.gif

[distant cargo]

Whatever helps you bust at night

[distant cargo]

Mid bait

[tardy light]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-on-a-boat-meme-gif-15553170094296377926

[distant cargo]

Mid bait