#๐โthe-finals-wiki
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then yeah, i don't see why not
basically expanding the POIs descriptions
-- and it should probably follow the Loading Screens gallery size (sort of secondary)
that works pretty damn well
somethin like this?
that works, if there's no confirmed names you can leave it blank -- at least that's how we have it in Sponsors
i'm sure others will have an opinion

hey, don't judge the feature list on the map pages
, it's only there so we (or someone else) can fill it out later and make it a bit more bulky.
looks good, it could be worth combining the real life plague and IG plague images together and then just have the image caption of something like "In game plague left, real life right".
also keep in mind as the wiki is a WIP, things may get juggled around later in the process 
195 new messages 
lots of EE stuff
Get outta here EE hunters 
Just a reminder guys, the wiki is supposed to be based on the game as close as possible. If we don't know the name of a monument or something in Monaco or Seoul, we'll use a common name for whatever that structure is, not the IRL name of it.
I donโt think we are allowed to do that as I donโt own the original image
That was added from the search of wiki commons
Ah fair enough
I donโt think we should name it like thatโฆ
Its a little borderline religiousโฆ
And my fren.. I donโt think I can call all EE hunters holy 
Unholy.. sure
Hello busy bees! ๐ โค๏ธ ๐
I am trying to get some resources together to help you with this mission. I know there have been a lot of requests. Do we have a single place where you have put in requests for official CB text, screenshots and images? If you gather them for me, I can see what I can do to get you what you need ๐
Hi Dusty, we'll get a list going for what we could need and send you a post about it once sorted
Thank You 

waowaowao
we'll let you know asap ๐
weird ask but is it even possible that there are these ๐ loading screen images without the UI? (just the background)
So far that plan 
so far our list is:
High res transparent (or not transparent if not possible) pictures of every weapon (and the skins too if possible) + gadgets
Weapon skin names + costs
Video/gif of any unique reload/inspect animation
Loading screen images without the UI (thanks fish)
I will check!
i got photoshop...
photopea enjoyers ๐ช
What are you guys thoughts on this https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Church_Of_The_Holy_Hunters
Is that related to the egg hunt?
Yeah
Oh, it is rob i see it know haha
Embark Lore
lmao
hoping and praying on this cause those would be so useful
thanks Luke! if i think of anything else i'll let you know so we can add it to the list
also ngl that's a big ask
might take a while
will take a while
we know
it's worth asking though
and it's not a priority
it's just if we can anything from there it'd be great
btw @lone monolith we can add the Tutorial video to Cashout Mode page
there was some more stuff like weapon stats that we wanted but decided that it's just gonna change in full release anyway so no point giving them extra work for things that will change instantly
I can look into it
ain't that the same with skins and costs
I don't have a way of converting mp4s into the file type the wiki wants though
what's the format
i'll do it
Actually let me check something
skins won't really change though, costs might change but I would guess they probably just have DB full of prices for the shop + it'll be good to have like a "beta section" with what skins were there and crap
no

i can convert it for you too if you tell me what filetype you need
I have no clue what it needs, I think it's AV1 but any MP4 I upload loses sound 
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Riot_Shield lmao just saw this
(place holder) worst them the other melee options but is still better then the AKM embark plz fix :(
hm
btw, the the main reason for these assets is to have at least consistency in format/angles if Embark can provide it. if not, we'll do it once we can play the game again
Better than AKM is misinformation smh
Soundless
no audio
Of
๐ตโ๐ซ that's a while away
Did it just never have sound to begin with and I wasn't editing the page with sound on
Wait these clips all look familiar

Aren't these from the press release kit
yes
hehe
Well that's nice to know 
Did you guys make a format/doc on what Dusty has asked? Let me or Kyne know if ya got it sorted
we had a list
she reacted to the post of 4 things (atm) so guess he's taken them into account
here
@tropic fjord
now waiting anxiously for Dusty to get back on that ๐ญ
How about we make a wiki page of what we need instead
hehe
So that is the full shabang?
Weapon skin names + costs
Video/gif of any unique reload/inspect animation
Loading screen images without the UI (thanks fish)```
is it worth asking for the radius of some gadgets like the sonar and trip mines etc. etc., I would assume it'll be changed by the time full release comes around
I wouldn't
nah
Donโt mind me just casually filled out the notes for the standard issue skin
It would be like asking for the radius of the med station from the Alpha only to see it got removed for the beta 
that's the full shabang for now unless anyone has any last minute additions
oooo, now that's a cool idea
kyne big brain
@tropic fjord ^
so my work on my most recent video will be for nothing?
smh 
This is why a place where those can be put would be easier than just sending them over chat 
should we do what lettuce said and just make a wiki page
easy to edit and keep track off
i mean, sure
I have a possible solution
That does not burden you guys more than just having to work on the wiki itself, one sec
I was literally going to say that
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plan view
basically if it had a minimap
(topographic is for terrain)
shoot yeah
Alright done, so now we can actually get them here by chat anyways, I'd recommend running them through everyone before suggesting still
So you can either @ a CM or Kyne/Dar and we can record it on our little thing
Just ping me or Beau and we'll mark it down- what he said
you know what lets just dig out the google maps view of Old Monaco and pretend it's the map for now
/s*
Monaco Arena - Plan View [sketch is for my own video purposes, does not include map details]
SPEAR is working on something
cheers Beau and Kyne 
spoilers for my next video
honestly amazing work
that's a super sketchy draft i used to write my script
it'll be polished when i publish
anyway, y'all can use it as a reference for now. i'll share the finished version later on. we can use it as a placeholder in the Wiki if needed
That's just a rough outline though, if anyone wants to add more to the POI feel free.
Seoul shouldn't be impossible either
i'll probably work on it later
don't think i'll do a video on Seoul
-- hardest part is locating it IRL. we know it's probably the French Embassy but during my research i still couldn't confirm it's exactly there
I feel like none of the buildings are where they are
precisely
I think the French Embassy is definitely where it's at
there's also very little 3D modelling available for that area, so it makes it harder to identify
I mean that kinda makes it easier?
Let me double check it
the map can be split into those buildings pretty easily
basically this area
it's an easier mini map to draw, for sure
-- i just meant if i wanted to compare it to IRL like i'm doing with Monaco
looks so smoll
Seoul has a 3d city map, but it loads incredibly slowly
But it's definitely where the map is based off of lol
perfect, i'll look into it
A black skyscraper with a rooftop terrace right next to a yellow building with a billboard on it
Might not be exactly where it's based off of but that is kinda hard to ignore that it's basically the same 
that's what i thought about Monaco until i started overlaying things and noticed it's different 
timer starts now. let's see how much it takes to load up (i had no patience the first time)
-- anyway did we get the Tutorial audio sorted out?
I think if anyone has it saved already it should work
The only reason the videos we have rn don't have sound is because they didn't have sound to begin with 
aaaah ok haha
This is what I found a while ago, not sure if it's the same place you shared
it is
i'll compress it to upload, needs to be below 100MB
There is a little droplet below the plaza
YOOOOOO
do we want to include a Tag like the rest of the banners?
YO!!
Yeah, I'll send you the one for Seoul
if that was photoshop then I apologise for putting you through this
It was not photoshop
i don't think so because Kyne would never name the file so properly
amazing

so do you have access to all of them now
or just this one
I am perfectly capable of naming things
I have access to all the ones from the Closed Beta
as in, the map modifier loading screens?
Yeah
@heavy gale We might need a good gallery for showing a fair few loading screens.
wait
it's spelled wrong
smh
ye, i meant the format
Hmmm
who's in charge of naming these files 
how many we talking? it might be worth keeping the same format as the loading screens gallery in https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Monaco, looks clean and you can see them all
15
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sheesh
JUICY
all just for one map?
For Monaco
quite a few then 
12 for Seoul
is this good for the website?
Let us seee
We'll probably wait for Spear just so we have a bit more graphic consistency
imagine not using THE FINALS fonts
I think it would look best if it followed the theme as the other icons that were made
they're already updated

gotcha
Man works fast LMAO
that was quick
all about organized files
Spear pulled a fast one
chuck it all in the "packed" gallery, I'll think of something to make it format good

Cashout page now has the Tutorial video
might try something slightly different, see if it looks better or worse
that's pretty cool ngl
@heavy gale
idk how to test it on the website
and I can't see how it looks next to Seoul until I have that one
the bait worked

make account, upload image at https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Special:Upload and then you can use the visual editor tool to add pictures and stuff
All the loading screens for Monaco are live
YOO
holy crap are they good
btw
I don't remember seeing morning
like idk this is new to me
maybe I just forgot
wow
LOVE that one map has so much variability, those loading screens are so pretty too.
juici, ty Embark!
awesome, I'll see what I can do to make it look cleaner. Something like adding a max width and scrollbar
Onto Seoul... 
how do I view what the page will look like?
while editing ?
yh
just finish the edit and revert if it's bad 
if you're editing by source then there should be a "show preview" button, if it's by the Visual Editor then what you see on the visual editor will usually be what it is after it's saved
been doing some digging into where the Seoul map is based on and i think i have a strong lead
i used the skybox to pinpoint the map location and landed here
it's the Bank of Korea Money Museum site
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Main_Page here is da prototype
THE FINALS (/รฐษ หfaษชnlz/) developed by Embark Studios is a free-to-play first-person shooter game, scheduled to release in 2023 for PC (via Steam), PS5, and Xbox Series X|S.
"...6 Embarkers on the 6th floor for 6 months..." That's how THE FINALS started (Or "Project Discovery", back then) - Rob Runesson on the initital development of THE FINALS....
it's posted actually
-- i think that format could work later on when we have a bigger list of maps and we'll need to condense the Wiki
I think the dark part on the left is way too dark lol
right now i don't mind showing of their loading screens
Especially for Seoul
i like rounder corners, just haven't used them because it's not on brand
yep yep
but if we like them i can update the rest later on
the "tab" layout might work for Loadout as well
This be lookin real good
but again, something to have in mind for when the Wiki gets long and cluttered

For now
Let's have SPEAR do it when he has the chance, just so we're consistent
(then we can have 3 per row)
what do we want?
and yeah yeah, just wanted to see what it would look like
those button thingies, but that's looking into far future, a while away
we need more maps first..
lol
alright, it's not complicated
we'll tackle when we need to
i'll download the images for reference
ty ๐
to be fair I just looked up a tutorial so yeah ๐คฃ
you gotta have that slight bevel though, it is *chefs kiss*
sorry, was starring at the test wiki for a bit longer than I expected 
you're doing a great job helping here
test wiki?
dayumn
edited
That's better
it looks clean
I mean once you do one button you can slot in any image and retype the text
as Spear said it shouldn't be hard
we can do it whenever
you can do it yourself if you want. just make sure there isn't kerning in the words
at that size, we don't need it
@lone monolith can you add .scroll-gallery { margin-top: 10px; display: flex !important; overflow: auto; } to Common.css ?
Me can't find the css page anymore
wait where is this image from
:me sad
characters from loading screens I guess
oh lmao
It's been added
what's this
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OwO
parameters for gallery
there you go, the gallery is no longer on 2 lines
I liked it.. ๐
cleans it up though
it's better this way for UX
It's been applied to Seoul aswell
heh it doesn't, I'll try and sort that
no worries, not a priority unless we know down the line that there are more Mobile users
also, the mobile version uses a completely different theme by the looks of it
guess as "Vector" isn't exactly mobile friendly
idek if Wiki is that broadly used outside of Desktop tbh
for future reference, any and all images i produce for Wiki purposes come from in-game or press release assets
hm, looks like users are forced onto the Timeless skin when using mobile and for some reason it completely disregards the Common.css and even Timeless.css which is why the gallery doesn't work on mobile
hopefully once we get the other skin installed, we can stop it changing the skin by default on mobile ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
btw do we have a shooting range page yet?
Haha, it now works
they are using this extension https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend which means we need to edit https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile.css whenever we want to change the css related to mobile view
thanks @lone monolith 
I don't think so
I need a good screenshot
@lone monolith do you have the Practice Range Background btw?
gotcha, thanks for finding out
once we get the Citizen skin, I'll probably try to get that MobileFrontend extension disabled considering the Citizen skin is mobile friendly
Luke doing gods work 
and then the wiki would look poggers
sheeeeeeeesh
where would this live?
if nowhere new, then probably next to Monaco and Seoul
i mean technically its an arena
since in the page we would also detail the features of the map
and it has a loading screen
it would just be a shorter page
THE FINALS (/รฐษ หfaษชnlz/) developed by Embark Studios is a free-to-play first-person shooter game, scheduled to release in 2023 for PC (via Steam), PS5, and Xbox Series X|S.
"...6 Embarkers on the 6th floor for 6 months..." That's how THE FINALS started (Or "Project Discovery", back then) - Rob Runesson on the initital development of THE FINALS....
okay did a publish
just for the maps
will either keep going or go back
they're the ones making content and graphics while I play with styling, they're doing the hard work 
didn't want to do all the buttons without getting feedback
(me sitting here fiddling with styling lol)
I think we should wait for the Citizen skin we're trying to get before making any future changes to the images
nooo everyones doing gods work
i just feel like fiddling with css styles is a big pain too
very true
what's the ETA on that?
LMFAO

no idea, sent an eggmail last week, heard from Beau yesterday saying no updates yet
nah, we won't have to redo pages
it's all front-end, styling
that's why i'm not being too hard on Banners and such atm
๐ ahh
We're trying to get in contact with a few peers but its mostly a lot of automails that are making our patience reach THE FINALS
So hang tight!
They're about to have a very angry community team yelling at them
We know you're trying your best 

(gamers have no patience)
key? 
damn it automod
has war flashbacks
key
key please
wow that emote is HARD to see
btw, we should definitely add the Practice Range page
Embark calls it TestRange in the image of the Loading Screen
it's called Practice Range in the Steam announcement
and it's called Shooting Range in the original #FAQ
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consistency Embark, consistency 
moral of the story: we can call it whatever
Shooty Range
so actually I was being a genius by just calling it 'range'
cause it encapsulates all 3
true
I like the rounded edges but I don't think you need to put the 3D effect in it
probably just the uniform fade.
doesn't stand out as much on the site
and we should probably decide on all rounded edges or none (I'm pro rounded eges)
but I don't disagree
I'm sure we would all prefer it, it just takes time
the page should be what it's called in the CB, imo
I think it looks good! its just the "3D effect" you used thats obsolete and out of style
damn
I think Practice Range is the best name
compared to the rest of the page I mean
you don't need dropshadow on the text if you already have a dark overlay
It's not just a shooting range since it has a little throwing challenge, parkour areas, etc
honestly it was hard to read before I did it, since the overlay was more a gradient which was lightest in the centre
but honestly a uniform darkness might just work
like this effect is obsolete
whatever you guys decide 
yes yes will change
in the process
fish is cooking
not fish
Hold your cooking fish 
just concepting ๐
looking good though
I know but let's just keep with what we've got for now 
okay >:[
not gonna make any others for now
It's apperciated
Whenever we get the Citizen Skin enabled we'll have a little group meeting to decide what type of style we want. We've got a good few people here that are good with making assets, but somewhat different views on how to style. So we're gonna sort that out when it becomes important.
did someone say.....teams meeting
in the mean time though, still got pages to fill out
that's probably the best thing we can do atm
Sheesh
I rewrote most of the POIs for Monaco. Don't really know what else to put for the Garden, Park, and Forest though.
use wix (jk)
I did a quick cleanup of the cathedral part, had some spelling errors "church" references and a lot of repeating lines so I basically went from 6 references to the cathedral to.. 2?

I'm gonna finally make a nama tama page tomorrow with just some of images of nama tama and a brief description
NAMA TAMA, the famous egg character shown in all the trailers, is confirmed to be the game showโs mascot - who emphasizes the inviting element of the game. It is described as extremely optimistic with a passion to celebrate successes, even terminally so in the face of being cracked or squished.
-- this what i have from when i talked about it in my videos (comes from Brand Guide)
feel free to expand and whatnot
thanks SPEAR 
we'll probably need a Characters page later on -- we also have the Announcer and the Commentators
but there's like very little on them
truee, be useful to have just the pages setup I guess
it can be a Page and each character has a Section, for now i mean
probably the best way to do it tbf considering how little info we have
indeed. we have like a sentence per character -- which we can expand from memory but ye
we need a SPEAR lore video on the announcer ๐
THE ANNOUNCER, whoโs voice is featured in the trailers, is described as an erratic, larger-than-life master of ceremonies who can be heard through the loudspeakers in the arena.
COMMENTATORS, known as Scotty and June - they provide key information about the match, speaking to the fans who are watching.
-- those were the things i covered, since we have very little
that will do for now
the other thing to reference for Scotty and June is that they have their own logo featured across Seoul's skybox
-- it's in the Sponsors gallery (other featured brands)
heh, did not know that
cool, I'll get this stuff sorted tomorrow and then see what other bits need picking up like trying to figure out what to put for thermal vision and night vision
You need to watch SPEAR's video, he mentions that ๐
good point
what does it look like?
Let's discuss the lore found in THE FINALS Closed Beta!
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1:15 Seoul Map
1:37 New Logos
4:03 Cosmetics
5:40 Outro
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How did I miss this? 
I think pretty much everyone missed it, except SPEAR that was actually looking for the lore of the game ๐
@lapis kindle great vid!
thank you!
i made it clear in the intro 
I actually meant I missed the video altogether
Must have been the fog of war
Ohhh, yeah, it heppens. Youtube's notifications are a bit broken, and the #๐โvideos-content channel is...being worked on? I wish I could just get my TF content from there... not trying to put a bit of pressure or anything... ๐
Ooh yeah I remember this!
It is definitely a logo ๐
like Povich said, just a logo 
I had a crack at thermal vision, https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Thermal_Vision
Added Gameplay Mechanics > Hazards (any barrels), Environment (ziplines, jumppads, cannons, crane etc), Modifiers (low gravity, dead go boom etc), Weather... etc. on https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Main_Page
THE FINALS (/รฐษ หfaษชnlz/) developed by Embark Studios is a free-to-play first-person shooter game, scheduled to release in 2023 for PC (via Steam), PS5, and Xbox Series X|S.
"...6 Embarkers on the 6th floor for 6 months..." That's how THE FINALS started (Or "Project Discovery", back then) - Rob Runesson on the initital development of THE FINALS....
For now I've put everything in a single page, and added a few more things to it, mainly just the map modifers and time of day. If we need to branch off a bit more we'll look into it in the future. https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Gameplay
Sure thing
Fish is cooking
allow me to cook
Yes
I mean, yes, but no
they don't explode though
Yes they explode, as they rapidly expand through a chemical explosion, but no.. as the explosion results in fragmentation rather than explosive energy
they also do not effect structures more than a bullet does
okay okay
rewording my question
Fragmentation is not an explosion
in the 'Explosions' section do I say that explosions can be caused by Frag Grenades
I'd just count it as a explosive
i mean, a Frag can cause an explosive barrel to explode
that's cause its just shooting out lots of bullets
the Frag itself does not explode in that sense
It does minor environmental damage, destorying props.
they don't damage structures, The grenades are still a small explosive that's how they send out the fragments
again
think about it like shooting out lots of bullets
in all directions
bullets destroy props and activate explosives
well you asked if they could cause explosions, the answer is yes (?)
I know how a frag grenade works IRL. For the purposes of the game though it's a explosive
for the 'hazards' page I will leave it out
because I say that explosions can destroy walls
I think fish hates grenades
Hazards page is aimed at anything that is not loadout
Right?
Anything found in a level
sure
I think they overlap to all maps
So donโt think putting them per map makes sense rn
Oh wait
Yeah thats per map
Eh, it's more gameplay related than anything else
Different modifiers
I'll put in more detailed descriptions of the modifers on the actual map page
Are you listening to what I'm listening to Fish 
I'd say more Map related
the lack of Cathedral isn't much a gameplay thing
nor is an added construction site
it's more a map change
than a gameplay change
It's fine to have some overlap
Mainly because I'm not making a useless map page just to say what the map changes are that just links into the actual map pages 
we can also very easily
just link straight to the map page
I mean I agree with the cathedral but with the skyscraper that usually completely changed how you play the game next to the Plaza and Apartments
Map Modifier section can live both in the Arenas and Gameplay sections
all map changes change how you play ๐ง
but like in patch notes if they were to have added a new construction site they would put it under 'map' instead of 'gameplay'
but we have the luxury of doing both ๐ช
Gameplay page looks good
I'm looking at https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Church_Of_The_Holy_Hunters right now and it's severly lacking the praying circle.
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(And the more sinsiter one)
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There is everything holy about that page
SR and SD will guide us to the solution to life ๐
Yea, that latest sea scroll of SD is a real braintwister. Going to be awesome once we understand it, I'm sure
I don't question this part
Cursed, so damn cursed
1B, was that beethoven/music? ๐ค
I think we had a bit of that but it was the 79AD tier
You should add a section explaining the praying circle ๐
The praying circle emoji depicts an egg (namely NamaTama) in the center, symbolizing new life or rebirth, surrounded by five candles arranged in the shape of a pentagram.
The pentagram represents spiritual balance and protection, while the candles symbolize light and hope. Together, these elements create a powerful image of prayer, meditation, and positive energy.
Adding to the praying circle can be emojis of letters, on the left side S, to represent "Saint", and on the right side the initial of the saint you wish to honor. Example are SR for Saint Rob, SD for Saint Dusty or SE for Saint Esbjorn.
These emoji-amalgamation are often used to express religious or spiritual sentiments, as well as to send good vibes and positive intentions to others.
Here is a depiction:
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Edit: It originated in #easter-eggs on the 29 October 2022, by the user @feral zephyr. (source: #easter-eggs message)
this is becoming nonsensical 
Perfect!
as long as the EE section maintains the general format and visual style, i'm fine with it 
Added the credit, and an image of the praying circle ๐๐ป
๐ฏ๏ธ Thank you Kyne and serpenger! Now the Holy Hunters page looks much better ๐ฏ๏ธ
I was thinking about adding this as the image for that page. It's an image Flex made a while ago, and I just added SR, SD, and Nama ๐
Haha, looks amazing ๐ โค๏ธ
Fish's cat looks so Sad
oh nooo, it looks so saaad 
yess so cute
that's me ๐
That expression is so human ๐
Yeah, it's basically "That was so good, but why did I eat all of it? Why didn't I settle after the first one ๐ซ "
Aight whoever made this lil guy sad needs to fess up RN ๐ค
Agreed! WHO DID IT
Not me ๐ถ
Ah k cool cool cool
POV: He drank pilk
Bro needs a hug

What youโve posted there looks like a sequel to this legendary image
that looks so sad
even more deprived
who did this to the cat, theyโve caused so much pain and suffering
chupacabra
Thanks for the new Images Kyne! โค๏ธ
the V9S page looks dope! (not upset you asked Luke to help rather than me)
make sure to send them here too ๐ฎ
โHigh res transparent (or not transparent if not possible) pictures of every weapon (and the skins too if possible) + gadgets
โWeapon skin names + costs
โVideo/gif of any unique reload/inspect animation
โLoading screen images without the UI
All delivered to the hands of Kyne II our Byzantine Wikister and being spread amongst our other wiki yolks too it seems!
โค๏ธ
We're still missing:
โปA top down view of Monaco and Seoul (And where the Seoul map is based from in Seoul itself)
โป Sledgehammer, Sword and Riot Shield pictures
But hang tight and it will be sent via Nama Express

Thanks for the update Beau!
(Also Luke's magic request will need to wait a bit more as we organize a pitchfork and torches peaceful protest)
No prob, lemme know if anything else is needed, we're out of Semla before you ask
can I join this peaceful protest that involves pitchforks?
yes

Magic request?
Citizen skin and mediawiki upgrade and stuff
what is the wiki service saying to the request that requires this peaceful protest?
Its a matter of waiting for now (updates need to be rolled out).
fair
jk I'm already happy with how the infobox evovled and these new images โค๏ธ
hopefully all of them are updated somewhere this week ๐
@shell mauve are the images broken for you? https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/V9S
nope
yes
ah ok, I keep getting
is that #1D1A20 at lower opacity I see? (I'm joking it needs more purple to be that)
actually not a bad idea
you'll be happy to know that is the finals red and finals black on the main bit of the info box
SR be praised
I like this colour
it's TF red but darker
but yeah
the guidelines are pretty strict
what is TF red hex again?
check pinned
also, it's not about the guidelines per se just best practice for the Wiki
if we start using what we personally like, it becomes difficult to stablish style guidelines down the line for the Wiki
also, @heavy gale i noticed some of the PNGs are not centered. gonna correct those for you
ofc ofc, we can also always ask Embark for their design opinion
thank you 
alright, worked through the Weapon & Gadgets Animations files and exported them to MP4 and smaller size. also added a Title over the Timer
-- didn't export in GIF because that format doesn't make the footage any justice + heavy size
awesome, how big are they in total?
they're not that big, little over 100MB but Discord doesn't let me share here
the zip files i mean
individual MP4s are below 15MB
I'm gonna work on a way so that it's a bit easier for the core wiki group to share files
sounds great, ty 
here's an example on how the animations look
-- i made an Essentials Graphics template in case we need it for future clips or to make changes. very easy to use/edit
I'm probably gonna buy an intel nuc tomorrow for some other reasons so can probably setup a shitty FTP server for sharing files on there
hmm not a fan of this color combo
nor am I, was just checking how ugly it would be
gotcha
THE FINALS - Hex Colors
Primary (from Brand Guidelines)
Red: d21f3c
White: f1f2f4
Black: 1d1a20
Yellow: f7bb2b
Secondary (from Print Dielines)
Grey: 808080
Orange: f08008
Blue: 2396c5
Green: 5bb53b
CMYK (from Print Dielines)
Black: 1d1a20 - same as Primary
Yellow: f0bc08
Magenta: df4e93
Cyan: 12c3a6
-- easier to copy/paste
@lone monolith can we get the Hex msg pinned?
the secondary grey one doesn't look too bad on the infobox
maybe a bit too light in comparison to the primary black
if we were to use grey, i'd probably just go with the in-game menu one 
I'll do the table medium weapons tomorrow unless Povich wants to do it
btw Luke, another option is to use the bottom black as the background for the Weapon Image as well
(instead of the primary black)
or make the entire Table bg the primary black
-- just a thought
I'll try some stuff tomorrow and see what we all like
Cmyk colors on a website
isnโt that blasphemy? 

People love using HSL in CSS for some reason
The table at https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/M60 is finished btw. I have not taken care of tidying up the place though. Should I just remove the images that have been there before?
Looks great, you can just remove the gun slideshow part
I will put the images of the Flamethrower in the table later on this evening. Or something else if somebody already starts working on that.
Holyโฆ you did every skin haha nice, we should consider that for each table maybe
Wondering if there is a way to create like a scrolling type gallery for skins that have multiple variations
So they can just scroll along the dye skins on the table
I mean, it is possible but yeah
But is it doable?
I can work something out and see if it's doable
thought we were gonna keep just one common skin and add the โin various colorsโ note
Yeah
I don't think we need to have a section for every single recolor
Unless Luke figures out a way for it
in terms of style for these tables, i'd suggest keeping the skin Name (and maybe the Rarity) in UPPERCASE but the rest in Sentence Case
tbf, thinking of user mobile usability, probably having scrolling table images for the variations will be too finicky
aaa, you just gave me an idea
You could try seeing how just doing 3s frames of each color looks like
a GIF could definitely work
any word on this? no rush, just wondering
We're talking about it
Yeah true, it looks a bit shit because of the duplicate texts etc. I wasn't sure how to do it, so I thought it would be better to be complete. Yeah a little slideshow for skins with various colors probably would be the best, if it's possible to do in a nice way.
IMO the wiki should be complete, not miss stuff just because it might look a bit weird because of duplicates. but that's just my personal view on it. if you want it to be different I can change it of course.
in that case, i'd opt for a GIF or slideshow
just to keep it tight - color names can be added in Notes
i'm not home, if Luke hasn't looked up it yet I am gonna see later if there is a nice way to do it
something like this
SPEAR 
can you test it?
Yeah
if it works i can work on it for every Weapon
I would check it out but in a pub atm
If someone could upload it to the wiki and stick it in the table and see if it works though 
omg this would be great 
I have a feeling gifs will always be a bit shit in terms of quality sadly
they usually do, yes
-- changed some things for better Edge resolution
this might look better at a lower scale
GIF format does a bad job to Edges at that scale and it looks weird. so perhaps an automatic slideshow might be better - if it can be done
how bout like a slight border around the weapons? would that work better for a gif?
like a black border about 2px wide
unless we make the file res 128x72px in photoshop and then smoothen the edges there
lemme try
drop shadow perhaps?
needs to be around all edges. so Stroke or Outer Glow
i'm testing
if not possible, shouldn't be too hard to make a template/module for changing images (hopefully)
There should be a setting that lowers dithering for (mostly) static images
But I cannot remember it for the life of me
yes, i adjusted all of those
Sad times ๐ฆ
looks like module/template can't really do it as changing pictures would require JS which we could do but it's JS, it could be possible in CSS however it requires a set amount of elements and each skin that has variants wouldn't have the same amount of variants.
The best option could just be leaving the one skin in the picture and then having a table column which lays out the variants or something like
Variants:
Orange,
Blue,
Yellow
Hmpf.
the other option which we could use in the future is whenever we may get 1.39, we can use the Tabber plugin and just have a gallery with each variant but in skin tabs like (Dye, Fracted Disguise, Skin with variants #3 etc etc etc)
i think for now, we can have all the images even if it makes the Tables longer
quite a lot of repeated information though like the descriptions
that's true... hmm
perhaps we could see how it looks without descriptions for the "repeated" skins
it would create sort of a block between skins
could be worth a try
could do something like this
that looks kinda weird?
it does, also removed the duplicate descriptions from the m60 page to see what it would look like
I think the wiki page being white already makes my eyes burn hahah
hopefully citizen skin soon 
i don't mind it? we could also merge type and cost
I think that looks better than having the duplicate texts. As you have said, if they can get the MediaWiki Update, there should be some nice solutions for that. I think then we could also use .gifv (high quality gif) and go back to SPEAR's idea.
GIFs i made were high quality, the issue is the format will present like it's low quality at that scale
yeah I know, there is also the .gifv format which I mean. It supports better quality
I'm not sure but I think with the wiki update we could use it then
but currently it's not possible using .gifv AFAIK
annoying that mediawiki doesn't support the animated webp format
then again, might look kinda shit downscaled
I need to stop getting hung up on trying to find a way and actually do other stuff on the wiki 

That's what should be done imo, it's much less confusing to me
I have adhd so a lot of unnecessary stuff is overwhelming to me

can't be sure if it'll get solved with the reskin though
Well its just a lot of.. space
true
i get it. but itโs an aesthetic issue, which is secondary atm. having the info available is more important
yeah I know :x
Put me in the wiki too
Okay, What do we need to put on the wiki?
yeah no
Record for most kills ig?
Not sure if its enough to consider
What's the record
Well thats nice but not relevant haha
that's not really information players go to a wiki for
Ye ik
you know yet you suggest such a thing
Guns maps and s but that's cool
I wouldnโt know tbh haha
Ik at least I tried
i don't think that saying it's from the closed beta test is completely accurate
since the video is straight taken out from the press release kit
even if it's the version of it from the closed beta
it's not as if the footage itself is taken from the test
Let m cook 
@heavy furnace if you have a good contribution, let us know, we could always use another pair of eyes
I always encourage people to check our work and give us feedback
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I assume so
can anyone check if they've actually contributed to the wiki
btw, today I'll be putting the flamethrower images into the right places (I wanted to do that a few days ago lol)
procrastination
I was about to chuck the medium skins into place
well, some of them when I get some coffee
fixed his page: https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/User:VonOrourke3
I'll do it later...
Seriously though, right now I'm supposed to do some other exercises xd
you an admin on the wiki?
Yep, I can step in if needed
Did alpha players get special rewards or only beta
Thanks 
Only beta as far as I'm aware
I've added skins to https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Repeater, not every variant yet though
it looks GOOD!
I actually made a mistake with the revolvers.. let me know if you encoutner it.. I don't remember which skin it is xD
is it the red background by any chance?
yes
Perilous Blue
sweet
ah shit the red shows >.>
if it becomes a problem I'll fix it myself by redoing it after you put the framework up
only a tiny amount, it'll be small enough that no one will see
revlover images done (minus variants for now)
haha cool
I'll do the rest later, gonna chill and watch "The Boys"
I've done this funny little thing called... adding him to the block list.
Cool
what happen there ๐๏ธ
I just wrote my user page without too much nonsense
Spammer of some sort
"I love cooking"
COME LOOK AT MY WEBSITE
We'll change it closer to release. For now we don't know if there's gonna be any map changes based off of the Closed Beta so we're playing it safe and just saying it's from the Closed Beta.
(Self-proclaimed) Enabler 
https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/AKM is done with table images
Also, have we found a name for this one yet?
I have no ideaโฆ it shares the hardware side with the Phantom Shine but it ainโt shine innit
all medium weapons are done minus riot shield and variants
Riot shield is special, already put an image up
I do love that riotshield image
I canโt recall the exact name, but itโs something like โIncognito.โ
Need a sticker with the finals logo for mi pc
You can just download the logo from the press kit and make a sticker from that
True
Ya'll can't believe it, BUT I have finished the Flamethrower. Will do the SA1216 next, soon xd
Looking good!
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Why 
"I smile that I can unite to the entire world." 
this kinda shit again? 
might want to get something like this installed https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit#QuestyCaptcha to enable captcha on sign up and edits
ah, it's installed on 1.18 and above for mediawiki, probably just needs the wiki service to configure settings or something
1 or 2?
makes sense
1 is a lot better
And I assume when the main game comes out there won't be 5 different skins with the same name
But instead one skin with different "styles"
I changed it ๐
definitely no.1 โ looks good!
All heavy weapons tables are finished now
awesome job
thanks, you all too! 
Hey, when I try to view some of the images in the wiki, I get this error. Anyone know what might cause that?
It's just a wiki service problem, usually fixes itself at some point
ye
Croco? 
john
thank you 
Much like the V9S
Its a shared skin "recolor"
So it is technically Phantom Shine!
Weird
I mean I saw it shared the model with the other phantom shine but there ainโt much shine to this phantom hehe
But good we solved that mystery haha
the mystery has been solved

Damn, you gonna rock this bad in the next beta?
Haha, finding that one skin weโve all been itching to identify
You know this work will never end, right? QQ
added team names to https://www.thefinals.wiki/wiki/Gameplay for now
awesome. we have some of the Team Logos as well #easter-eggs message
-- could be a Gallery instead
yeah, gallery will probably work best
I'll message tetis to see if we can use his logos he made
lmk if we are missing any and i'll work on them
will do, thanks Spear 
Tetis has given us permission to use his artwork if we give him credits somewhere
Tetris?
I think he means Tetis, the guy who created those team logos
I thought that you didn't need his permission, since it was a copy of the in-game things, but I guess it makes a bit of sense
I guess its not an issue to mention he provided them
you can add the credits in the Summary for the Files
I think this is also true, but if it means alot to him its not a lot of effort to acknowledge him providing them. I personally don't want us to sign our work, but this isn't someone in the wiki crew
i don't think we should sign the work either -- but considering we are uploading someone else's effort, it should at least be noted in the File Description. something as simple as "provided by..."
Where applicable we should absolutely be asking if it's okay to use someone else's work. Obviously that's not gonna work out all of the time but we should be striving for that.
yep, tetis, totally didn't misread his name and even call him tetris in his DMs 
yup, we all agree
just waiting for tetis to send me all the logos he has then I can start working on team name gallery
Yes sir!
Make sure in the page for livewires it says "objectively best team"
I owuld love to have silly stats on this haha



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