⚡┇the-finals-chat

[prime flame]

It's a master of several things though lol

Insta res

Deployable movement

Best single target healing with med beam

Fastest environment manip with Demat

Cooks so hard with goo grenades it's essentially made a universal gadget a core part of its identity

Best burst damage in the game

Competitive sustain damage

Like what do you want this class to be. Medium excels at so much stuff I haven't even listed all of it

[vestal sable]

what percentage of your total playtime has been spent on cashout or ranked cashout

[long crag]

gods chosen autistic

[chilly holly]

67676767676767

[cold walrus]

send this again and I will tell Vyper that you're Lash in a mask

[long crag]

hinfuse is straight up better than beam, especially if its stacked

[sacred meteor]

Too add on it can also provide great area denial with a turret and aps

[vestal sable]

but a light can heal a heavy slightly faster for a total of 2 seconds so clearly medium is useless

[chilly holly]

This is me btw, I'm peak

[long crag]

prob half and half, i have more time in WT than anything, on acc that i refuse to solo q ranked

[vestal sable]

spoken like a true point break player

[vestal sable]

whats your rank in ranked

[cold walrus]

it lasts maybe a second, it's good for stealing and potentially saving a teammate in the open, but it has nowhere near the same level of sustain

[storm lake]

infuser is good for small increments of healing, beam has a shorter cooldown, longer use time, can literally lock on to your teammates through walls, and has a cool motorcycle skin in season 6’s bp

[cold walrus]

I mean you can't argue against the cool motorcycle skin

[prime flame]

That last point is the most important

[long crag]

sustainability cant ever keep up with burst heals, it might be better long term but in a game where every other gun also 1 bursts ur health, beam gets outclassed

[rancid schooner]

Also has an inspect that lets you rev it

[vestal sable]

in bronze

[prime flame]

You don't heal bot with the beam either you use it to do quick top ups to keep the momentum going

[long crag]

what part of i dont solo q ranked did u not understand

[cold walrus]

sustainability can absolutely keep up with burst heals if your positioning isn't terrible

[vestal sable]

are you saying you're unranked

[sacred meteor]

mmm so no friends

[storm lake]

do you not have friends

[idle hazel]

why are we hating on this guy

[solemn roost]

i remember the season 1 healbotting days

you didn't even have to pull put a gun to win just pocket the heavy and gg

[long crag]

correction, no freinds want to play a sweaty unbalanced game. ive gotten all my freinds to try out the game, but they never stick around

[vestal sable]

he has the wrong opinions on balancing

[cold walrus]

calling the game dead and is now arguing that medium has no identity in the game

[prime flame]

Bad takes and doubling down when called out for having bad takes

[idle hazel]

damn i guess i got an answer

[tiny wharf]

STAND BACK, GRACE ASHCROFT!! THESE RESIDENTS ARE INDEED GETTING EVIL!!!!

[sacred meteor]

friends* i before e except after c. Also you dont need to pretand

[gloomy glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-ayanokoji-gif-26128158

[idle hazel]

i do think medium is currently the weakest in the game but i dont think its completely outclassed

[vestal sable]

all your friends might need to go play minecraft if this game is too hard for them

[long crag]

hilarious considering the overlap between this community and arc, the game notorious for catering to super casuals

[idle hazel]

alr bro dont be an elitist abt playing the finals of all games

[chilly holly]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G_od1wBX0AEc2bJ.gif

[vestal sable]

i am an elitist im better than everyone else

[sacred meteor]

yea but the finals isnt arc? are you high or smth

[cold walrus]

every class feels balanced right now, feels like any comp could win a game at a fairly high level (other than like... LLL)

[chilly holly]

BUFF CL-40

[long crag]

can u read?

[sacred meteor]

can you articulate yourself properly?

[idle hazel]

they're reasonably balanced i agree but heavy is also the strongest class rn, and the other classes play around it

[rapid girder]

Buff rocksudden

[fallen quiver]

Infuser: strong burst healing able to out heal most damage, best for fights
Ball: infinite sustain healing, great for poke situations where you can easily back out and are unlikely to get bursted down
Heal beam: in-between option that is useful in both situations but not as good in either. Very essential ability for the current meta, given you can get your heavy back to full in dead moments of a fight

[prime flame]

If anything light is in the worst spot it has like one loadout that's good an all others are not great

[long crag]

the sentence was not only complete it was self explanatory, if u need further help u might just be brain damaged

[solemn roost]

i think it's perfectly fine that heavy tends to be the center of teams. feels right.

[rare tinsel]

What’s the main difference ? (English isn’t my first language)

[storm lake]

i think the only way to settle this debacle is with a spelling bee

[prime flame]

Heavy is in a good place

[cold walrus]

light's got like 2 high tier weapons and 5 usable gadgets

[sacred meteor]

lmaoo

[vestal sable]

medium is worse for variety

[sacred meteor]

me, a grapple light that runs glitch, gas, and frag: true

[long crag]

i thought meads did it all??

[idle hazel]

cloak is seeing some use in hlh so that light can stick closer to the team but i 100% agree that light needs some more viable loadouts

[stark plank]

accidentally vaulting instead of jumping is the most rage inducing things to happen

[solemn roost]

jump is to hop in the air

vault is to climb over things like windows or ledges

[storm lake]

what is a mead man

[rancid schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/iridocyclitist-spelling-bee-gif-11378501

[idle hazel]

medium does not have alot of gadget variety which is unfortunate

[fallen quiver]

V9s, m11, Arn, lh1, matter

I wouldn't say just 2

[sacred meteor]

its a drink

[vestal sable]

variety in loadout choice, please read before asking others if they can read

[rare tinsel]

Oh! Thanks a lot

[stark plank]

nord style

[gloomy glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/moon-night-aesthetic-background-town-gif-12703413205543847862

[prime flame]

Mediums biggest weakness is the game only allows for 3 slots lol

Goo, Defib and Pad just too good

It's not even that the other stuff is bad

[crystal swan]

TF stands for THE FINALS

[fresh juniper]

New medium spec is a sidearm

[vast veldt]

Someone should totally gift me smth

[long crag]

hey further elaborating on an incomplete sentence usually helps ppl understand what ur saying. hope this helps

[cold walrus]

I'm just not sure how they could change jump pad and defib to be used less but not entirely unusable

[prime flame]

I would like it if beam and defib were just combined into the same spec or something

[vestal sable]

this is what it looks like when you spectate someone who is lagging

[sacred meteor]

i dont think you are qualified to be grilling people on the english language

[prime flame]

Defib is always gonna hog a slot as long as it's a gadget

[fresh juniper]

Oh I don’t think I’d like that

[cold walrus]

the elaboration was the very message they were replying to

[vestal sable]

thats on you if you couldnt understand my statement

[idle hazel]

damn you really suck at the game i cant believe you lost that

[long crag]

i cant spell, u ppl cant even speak properly. huge dif. im dyslexic, whats ur excuse

[crystal swan]

You can literally see the dude whipping everywhere in third person Im not saying he's hacking Im saying this is dumb because it changes the hitbox

[prime flame]

And then pad/zipline always gonna hog another

So now we are down to a final slot and that's almost certainly always gonna be goo

[sacred meteor]

you do more than just dont spell my guy, you take false pretenses of the language and use that as your arguement instead of actually arguing, displaying an ineptitude to backyourself up but also too egotistical to admit defeat

[crystal swan]

Can't*

[fresh juniper]

Idk just don’t force yourself to use stuff

[storm lake]

medium can be the best class in the game if you know how to use the cerberus

[idle hazel]

cerb is alr but its not all that great

[prime flame]

I feel like thematically it makes sense that the only way medium gets the fast res is if it runs the med beam idk

[idle hazel]

certainly not bad but def not a meta pick

[crystal swan]

All class are the best class in the game you just need to be lucky that the other ranked teams dont have anything that can screw you over too much

[storm lake]

you* people* difference* your*

[vestal sable]

thats when you're supposed to make an angry reddit post complaining about the servers and implying embark is greedy for adding cosmetics to a free game

[solemn roost]

mmmm yes wonderful servers

[vestal sable]

light player

[sacred meteor]

wait will this not fix all my issues???????

[fresh juniper]

Nah cuz that’s the whole point of the sandbox… there are certainly benefits to running defib with demat or perhaps double movement with heal beam while forgoing the defibs

[idle hazel]

dont listen to the haters keep posting

[crystal swan]

If there's one thing I learned about customers it's that if they whine loud enough, they're forced to give in 🥀

[peak pilot]

I don’t have a secondary, I don’t counter pick, I don’t cover bad match up, I… One Trick, and if I can’t do it with my main then I don’t WIN

[crystal swan]

Shrimple as that

[gloomy glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/aesthetically-aesthetic-shoes-flowers-raining-gif-16942240

[storm lake]

they should make the finals third person and add a sprint roll mechanic and rename the sa1216 to vulcano

[long crag]

if ur ok with the only meaningful updates to this game being the shop then by all means, go wild

[cold walrus]

Ranked should allow for loadout swapping, maybe at the cost of a respawn credit or something

[prime flame]

I don't but that's why I play unranked if I'm running weird loadouts

But I also don't know how you encourage more loadouts in ranked at this point either.

Maybe the competitive scene can just kinda always be each class all running the same shit on every team, that's how TF2 does it and lots of people love that games competitive scene

[sacred meteor]

bro does not read, patchnotes or in general

[crystal swan]

I dont get why its different for WT and Ranked 🥀

[peak pilot]

I low-Ki haven’t played this game in 3 days

[long crag]

bro willfully ignores the bug list filled with shit thats been there since s1

[crystal swan]

Like how many swaps can you do mid-game with like 4 extra slots

[sacred meteor]

apply to work at embark and fix it then

[vestal sable]

do you expect them to release weapons and maps in mid season updates or random bug hotfixes

[storm lake]

think about nama tama, THINK ABOUT OSCAR HE NEEDS TO FEED HIS CHILDREN

[fresh juniper]

I think the best solution was in the message sent before yours

[peak pilot]

Thats wut I said awhile back one item for a coin.

Would make having 5 of them at the last round actually worth something lol

[prime flame]

I actually like that the game locks you into a loadout for a full match because I hate counter pick metas in games

[storm lake]

they should let you switch loadouts mid ranked at the cost of 1000mb

[long crag]

hey so when new seasons drop the bugs are still there!!! we still have no new specs, gadgets, game modifiers, guns. but no im the disillusioned one lmao

[prime flame]

Lmao

[cold walrus]

I assume Embark's philosophy is allowing fights to be more predictable by allowing teams to learn and adapt to what other teams are running over time as they can't swap their entire loadouts at a whim, but in a game with RPS balancing, it just leads to either insanely versatile and boring loadouts or shitstomp rounds where a team wins because they have a loadout that happens to perfectly counter yours

[prime flame]

They should just let you prevent SR loss for 5$ like marvel rivals

[vestal sable]

"we still have no new specs, gadgets, game modifiers, guns" since when

[fresh juniper]

Well perhaps it would encourage diversification of strategies and loadouts since players wouldn’t be stuck with something that might not work for a certain match. But besides the coin requirement, there could be a limit of one swap per game

[gloomy glacier]

. . . how are the players about to get phased out . . ?

[sacred meteor]

like every season has added one or more of these

[storm lake]

you actually have something to lose in ranked so the stakes are higher

[crystal swan]

I just found out you can hold down the trigger and kill a medium and a light at once with the XP-54

[cold walrus]

and adding too many creates bloat and overlapping weapons identities (think M11, XP, and ARN, but with every single weapon in the game)

[vestal sable]

you wouldnt know because you're bronze and refuse to try for gold

[peak pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/really-gif-16462970074420267735

[cold walrus]

well yeah the medium was at half, but great shots

[storm lake]

you put me in this place

[crystal swan]

Then why make loadout swap such a hassle? If I swapped to glitch grenade the heavy team that dominated the last round wouldnt be able to do anything when I just chuck glitch nades

[gloomy glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/espresso-classy-pinkies-up-sips-tea-sipping-gif-7250101

[crystal swan]

Ah.. Sadly only the M60 can scratch that itch, huh...

[vestal sable]

me, the high ruby player, threw during your placement matches and made you place bronze

[storm lake]

it encourages you to be more strategic with your loadout pre-round, instead of adapting in real time

[crystal swan]

AKM can kill two people at once but man does it take forever to kill if you dont land headshots

[peak pilot]

Tje last notable clip I got was this

[sacred meteor]

with the XP you can fully killa medium and light with one clip, its not all that difficult to doo

[fresh juniper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/425703729015160835/1356042445162414100/freakyfinals.gif

[steep raven]

Pin this, CMs

[gloomy glacier]

. . . aaany ps4 players still around . . ?

[sacred meteor]

i agree

[versed ore]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1447788080575549512/1469573322986618910/togif.gif

[stark plank]

do you hate yourself?

[peak pilot]

An this I guess because bullying people in Kyoto is funny when it works

[storm lake]

if you desperately needed a glitch grenade there are glitch bombs all over the maps

[bleak arch]

Enjoy your final 15 minutes PS4 players

[crystal swan]

Me who throws every glitch cannister so it doesnt screw me over in the future:

[versed ore]

glitch canisters are nowhere near glitch nades

[fresh juniper]

Maybe they’ll delay season 10 again 🙌

[crystal swan]

They are never around when you need them and when you need to use your ability one inevitably explodes next to you

[bleak arch]

I love pulling a random one around a corner when going for the box

[steep raven]

PS4 ends of support today right?

[storm lake]

i thought they naturally respawned

[cold walrus]

anyways guys what do we think about map voting

[covert flax]

I love it when I get kills with powder canisters (yes they are called powder, not smoke), goo barrels, and glitch batteries
BONK!

[cold walrus]

with S10 I believe

[fresh juniper]

Kyoto 100% 🔥

[crystal swan]

It could be any other cannisters, no?

[covert flax]

would be cool I guess

[storm lake]

what if we pulled an r6 and do a ban selection for maps and weapons

[bleak arch]

Do you think anyone has played the finals inside the real cathedral

[crystal swan]

The only red cannister spot where I remember that spawns 100% of the time is the one Vegas the one where there's a wall to goes straight to the alley

[storm lake]

ban kyoto and winches everytime

[steep raven]

We need this

[versed ore]

shitreg

[gloomy glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/adding-seasoning-ralphthebaker-adding-spice-seasoning-the-dish-seasoning-the-meat-gif-27307736

[vital pier]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-bot-hell-vent-gif-16605912113622543976

[steep raven]

ASS

[stiff kiln]

The finals logo is literally just the valorant one upside down but with one more line wtf

[vital pier]

why do you care

[covert flax]

I wonder how would people who go there constantly for the sake of church react to gameplay of THE FINALS, specifically breaking the cathedral

[stiff kiln]

It’s unoriginal and cheap. Probably why the games dead

[crystal swan]

God forbid people make recognizable and simple logos 💀

[fresh juniper]

I thought it was like an F turned diagonal

[vital pier]

you are playing fragpunk lul

[covert flax]

it is

[cold walrus]

I'm sorry but you're playing Fragpunk and are calling The Finals dead 😭

[crystal swan]

You know what, Im pretty sure I drew the THE FINALS logo when I was 10. I should sue Embark for it

[bleak arch]

Simple logos are too corporate

[fresh juniper]

Wait so it’s not like valorant 🤔

[covert flax]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-cat-mocking-gif-13935821400850516732

[cold walrus]

fits perfectly with the game, frankly

[stiff kiln]

Holy deflections 😭😭😭 tell me when I called this game popular

[covert flax]

no it's not

[stiff kiln]

Expected childish response

[vital pier]

dude your user name is childish

[stiff kiln]

It’s a lot more fun than finals I’ll give it that

[crystal swan]

THE FINALS plays alot like Valorant... It has guns... And people... And... Idk what else is similar

[fresh juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-gif-16678637603760811240

[steep raven]

SAME THOUGHTS, FINALLY IM NOT THE ONLY ONE

[fresh juniper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/850448260434624573/1351620466292293703/tenor_5.gif

[cold walrus]

just found it incredibly ironic that you're calling a rather healthy and stable game dead when you're playing a game that's struggling to maintain 2k concurrent players

[stiff kiln]

Lmao ur not crazy

[bleak arch]

Distracting skins

[torn linden]

zatch is a bum

[midnight briar]

Lobby was not ready for casual sword

[cold walrus]

there are guns... and players I guess

[crystal swan]

You're thinking of THE CHINALS 🇨🇳

[plucky summit]

B b b b b but like who cares tho…

[crystal swan]

I will admit THE CHINALS 🇨🇳-exclusive skins are mad ugly and tries too hard

[steep raven]

Which i already played that

[cold walrus]

the skins are so clearly not Embark quality and feel SO out of place

[midnight briar]

If this game had 5 less currencies and 10 less colors it could’ve popped off

[fresh juniper]

Finals mobile

[vital pier]

sooo many currencys kinda marvel rivals it just blows up in your face

[midnight briar]

Rubber duck vanish nade?

[steep raven]

Imagine another exclusive skins brought to the global version

[cold walrus]

Fragpunk's gunplay actually feels so good, about the only redeeming quality though

[sterile garnet]

finals on switch 2 when

[crystal swan]

Breaking news, child's iPhone explodes after a Heavy goos the entire hospital and detonate a pyro mine

[midnight briar]

Mmm rivals isn’t bad, especially since they love to give out the free skin currency

[covert flax]

define "colors"

[fresh juniper]

Genuinely why is it not yet, I thought it would have been added by now

[edgy python]

FUCK man mw2 is so fuckin cool 😭

[cold walrus]

I mean it's running* on the PS4

[vital pier]

just very similar and quite confusing if you havent played in awhile lol

[bleak arch]

r/switch2 later that week:

Joycon mouse controls are ridiculous!!

[steep raven]

2009 or 2022?

[covert flax]

YES.

[edgy python]

The fact you had to ask is insulting, and Whiskey Hotel is the best mission ever 😭

[midnight briar]

Oh yeah 100% but they all definitely have deserved purposes

[edgy python]

That one 8 minute mission is better than some whole cod campaigns

[sterile garnet]

you cant even use mouse controls efficiently because of how easily the joycon tips over

[bleak arch]

Classic Nintendo

[steep raven]

No 🇷🇺

[gloomy glacier]

. . . no one here appears to be a ps4 player . . .

[crystal swan]

I enjoyed the previous Black Ops campaign. The semi-open world was kind of fun I guess I really liked the Washington congress sneaky sneak mission

[edgy python]

BO6 was fun I can’t lie

[gloomy glacier]

18th?

[fresh juniper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/818308821574615044/1355208199241863402/caption.gif

[steep raven]

Yeah

[edgy python]

Dude I just played the campaign then uninstalled it chillax

[stark plank]

best days of my life

[gloomy glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/tea-sips-morning-coffee-how-you-doing-let-me-finish-my-coffee-gif-16438727

[fresh juniper]

I am not flaming you just sending a funny gifington

[edgy python]

I haven’t put time into a cod games multi player since this game came out 😭 or really since MW2019

[steep raven]

Wanted to buy old MW1 (both og and remastered) and MW3 on Steam. But why Activision gotta fucking increase the price

[slate wraith]

this is a game I'm in right now, both party members left but somehow I got to final round

[edgy python]

I have mw3 physical, was the one I had as a kid

[stark plank]

cod died after black ops 2

[fresh juniper]

See if the opposing team will be friends

[steep raven]

Fuck you activision

[edgy python]

I think black ops 3 was fun and it has amazing zombies

[slate wraith]

they were, and accidentally let me get a double jeopardy I was trying to give them ROFL

[edgy python]

And tbh I think the real death of the franchise was after cod WW2

[stark plank]

I bought that on pc just for zombies haha

[gloomy glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-hynes-hynies-girlfriend-experience-checking-time-clock-watching-gif-19977923

[fresh kernel]

Do we dig the concept?

[steep raven]

Samsies

[crystal swan]

There was a time my game crashed and I had to verify files for abit. The enemy team griefed my team into final round and then we get to demolish them when I came back

[steep raven]

BO7 is full of AI assets. Mayhaps

[crystal swan]

[edgy python]

Give me voice lines so I can give this clanker a soul

[edgy python]

I logged on today, immediately qued up a WT, won, and got off

[stark plank]

latest mw1/2 warzone was quite fun with friends but just a gun meta fest

[steep raven]

Were you having fun with ARN-220?

[frozen musk]

embark i know ur game is dead but can u please stop seeding me 1st every single game i dont care if i get a gold on my team theyre gonna do terrible no matter what rank they are

[slate wraith]

sadly both of mine have yet to come back

[edgy python]

I don’t think people realized how good we had it in 2019 for battle royal, we had spell break, OG warzone, honestly amazing Fortnite, like it was BANGIN

[still sandal]

ok

[crystal swan]

I think I was playing Revolver at the time I wasnt good with the ARN at that time

[fresh kernel]

"Halt civilian, you have entered a restricted area. For your own safety, please turn around, and exit the building."

[stark plank]

never did fortnite but my friend said it was really easy in comparison lol

[steep raven]

Me rn

[fresh kernel]

Why does your contestant look like me the fuck

[solar onyx]

And that weird one where you turned into a chicken

[edgy python]

Fortnite being not the most loser shit ever is good and why it’s still loved and played, Fortnite is the closest thing we’ll ever get to the Wii in terms of age range of its playerbase

[stark plank]

crazy oc?

[edgy python]

That’s a soulless line brochacho

[stark plank]

the new age will never know of Matt from wii sports

[finite cradle]

under no circumstances should there be penalities for leaving if matchmaking is utter dogshit

[bleak arch]

Unc had belts for hands

[covert flax]

wait I just realized what this reminds me of
these mfs

[edgy python]

Unc had warheads for hands

[bleak arch]

All that just to punch kids in the ring

[covert flax]

me when a robot says something robotic

[edgy python]

A good robot is either completely soulless or has a soul

Metal Sonic is honestly the only bot I’ve seen portrayed that does both well

[bleak arch]

5 steps back meatbag.
Tightens grip

[fresh kernel]

Give me something to record then

[covert flax]

oh god Matt was my first introduction to the concept of "beating up children for doing fuckall"

[edgy python]

Now THIS 🗣 is writing

[bleak arch]

Literally some corny cyberpunk sh

[fresh kernel]

Well the robot IS law enforcementr

[edgy python]

And cyberpunk is well written 😭

[last jasper]

Yo medium mains when ur heavy is requesting a jump pad in ranked during a fight give it to him bruv he is about to smoke the entire team with one rpg

[covert flax]

I do have a robotic OC myself but like, I have no dialogue for him... at all, really

[edgy python]

Which is fine

[last jasper]

Like don’t ask questions just do it

[edgy python]

You can’t have a “character” robot and them not have a personality, if they’re an extra or sum then it doesn’t matter

[covert flax]

yea it's the visual design that counts! at least for me! yeah!

[covert flax]

they do have a personality, I just haven't had the time to write allat down

[bleak arch]

Bastion overwatch

[fresh kernel]

I got bars

[edgy python]

I’m saying you can’t do a robot character and then be a complete “robot”, they gotta have a personality or a quirk or something

[daring current]

[bleak arch]

Protein bars i hope

[crystal swan]

This guy defended with his life to protect orange to blast his teammate

[fresh kernel]

“Three unauthorized subjects detected. Escape attempt logged. Pursuit protocol initiated.”

[covert flax]

yea he ain't a complete robot!
I mean he is, but he's not like a total robot with "else if else if else if" mindset!

and if we talking about quirks, he does have some
but I feel tired so I'd rather go sleep instead than explain all of that :D

[midnight briar]

I can’t hit more insane sword clips

[covert flax]

inflict self-lobotomy with the sword so you reset your skills and prestige to unlock new tech

[gloomy glacier]

When's the Discord update?

[covert flax]

the age verification thingy?

[gloomy glacier]

Yeah

[covert flax]

seems like they delayed it to 2nd half of 2026

[versed ore]

warning: kinda loud

[covert flax]

they ditched Persona as a verifying source because it was getting one too many lawsuits to be trustful

[sweet grail]

Delay it again 👍 it’s a wild invasion of privacy

[versed ore]

I need to play more sword

[finite cradle]

this game is just throwing teammates simulator embark must be sitting smoking crack all day

[versed ore]

NOTHING

NO COMPANY IS

No company is a good age verification source

Because age verification is FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED and hurts more people than it protects

[covert flax]

I hate this chud ass weapon

[covert flax]

ikr

[gloomy glacier]

bruh

[covert flax]

man I really hit that

[gloomy glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/15lbs-of-more-cheese-cheese-pour-spill-cheesy-gif-13965758

[fresh kernel]

im running out of ideas 😭

[gloomy glacier]

it's a solid vibe whatever you got going imo

[timid echo]

Join 24 if you play, medium or light

[versed ore]

https://tenor.com/view/transmission-transmit-post-this-cat-cat-least-expect-it-gif-10319838660013923911

[midnight briar]

Why torture yourself

[stark plank]

roundest bun in all existence

[versed ore]

sword

[midnight briar]

I felt that .1 second of early sliding

[smoky kestrel]

lil sneak peek on what I'm working on for @steep raven

[versed ore]

I didn't press slide at all it just lagged me back for no reason </3

[midnight briar]

Also idk if they’ve patched this but that stutter is what u want to aim for if u want to sword dash backwards

[midnight briar]

Oh, that’s what it looks like when u try to slide jump to soon

[versed ore]

That's what it looks like, I just don't know why that happened because I didn't hit crouch at all. </3

[minor wing]

yall is 23 days enough for this ranked season

[midnight briar]

Did u try to double jump?

[versed ore]

no idea

it just moved me forward like 2 inches and then pushed me back

[daring current]

this message was removed

[true nova]

Hi duck

Playing ps with someone I see

[midnight briar]

Yeah, some rando thought I popped off XD

[true nova]

I see

[gloomy glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/turbo-granny-dandadan-anime-cat-anime-deadpan-gif-8820129735115394426

[solemn roost]

sword is fun but if i play it too much i get cocky and start inting

[spice willow]

Anyone that runs medium// what’s your favorite gadgets?

[midnight briar]

I did kinda go crazy for a game tho

[sweet grail]

Goo/frag jump and defib with heal beam

[stark plank]

somehow I'm playing better with lower fps after upping my graphics settings

[midnight briar]

maybe its the way your shadows are loading

[spice willow]

I couldn’t do damage with a frag if you payed me😂 I really have been liking the gas grenade

[weary gazelle]

can someone please explain how i can destroy aim trainer scores in one day and somehow do absolutely terrible when i play the game? im getting the worst desync, hit reg, and damage inconsistencies ive ever dealt with

[stark plank]

I thought possibly the slower frames are matching my brain speed

[sweet grail]

Gas is ok if there’s no fire around but it gets burnt out so often I prefer frags since it’s one big chunk, but goo is always great in so many scenarios as well, jump pad and defib are definitely must haves tho, and your third slot is kinda whatever you prefer on med honestly

[midnight briar]

Honestly just wouldn’t use anything over goo

[spice willow]

Aren’t goos just used to block off doors/windows etc?

[edgy python]

Highguard lasted exactly 3.2 concords

[midnight briar]

Best sword clip I got for today, nothing crazy just consistent

[edgy python]

Game was not that bad 😭

[sweet grail]

This is true goo is the best over all, but it’s only defensive do it does limit your role to pure support, I mostly run goo or frag, it’s nice in the bigger game modes like point break since there’s so many bodies around

[edgy python]

Ngl I’d be moving my hips in my chair if I had this shit playin mid match

[midnight briar]

If u have a heavy u really only need to be defensive

[midnight briar]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-you-mean-by-that-gif-10559980082154008380

[sweet grail]

Yes but you can also use it to climb or in any fight you know your going to lose or to put up cover in open areas, it’s more diverse then just that

[edgy python]

I’d be hittin the salsa lebron movements

[steep raven]

healing beam, goo nade, jump pad, defib

demat, frag nade, explosive mine, defib

[sweet grail]

I’m solo queue so idk about that

[edgy python]

Fr 😭

[spice willow]

I never thought of that!! Somewhat new to the game, so thanks for that!!!

[spice willow]

Nice!!!

[true nova]

beautiful

[exotic flint]

Rank ? Anyone

[sweet grail]

You can also use it when defibing teammates for more safety in alot of situations ect

[edgy python]

Wrong chat

[spice willow]

Just hit silver 4!(:

[sweet grail]

-lfg try the looking for group chats

[amber jacinth]

<:thefinals:1108025386081714196> LFG CHANNELS

Europe: #lfg-eu-casual • #lfg-eu-ranked

North America: #lfg-na-casual • #lfg-na-ranked

Asia: #lfg-asia-casual • #lfg-asia-ranked

Oceania: #lfg-oce-casual • #lfg-oce-ranked

South America: #lfg-sa-casual • #lfg-sa-ranked

Go to id:customize to show/hide specific channels.

[versed ore]

red hair

[stark plank]

ui on this game needs some love

[wooden nexus]

Oh yeah? You and I are gonna have a problem

[daring current]

what like marathon?

[stark plank]

not if I love you first

[wooden nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-ventura-jim-carrey-sarcastic-gif-27361397

[wooden nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/that-escalated-quickly-gif-13528303

Less than 100xp till green role chat, I have achieved nothing

[stark plank]

maybe do something it past its beta update? add player commendations, deeper statistics with api access for sites, leaderboard player ping etc

[wooden nexus]

Marathon aka concord 3: return of the bye guard

I give it 6 months, and bungie get shut down.

Sony ain't making that money back

[fresh kernel]

ightim going to bed

goodnight THE FINALS

[stark plank]

halo 3 bungie devs are probably laughing at their demise tbh

[midnight briar]

If u look at when I ress ppl u can see me boppin my cursor lol

[gloomy glacier]

⏱️

[wooden nexus]

Destiny had serious potential but that was overrated asf too and they ran that into the dirt

[stark plank]

never played it but seemed similar to the division

[crystal swan]

That light could have stopped me but because he didn't his whole team got blown up

[sweet grail]

Rest well 🥂

[steep raven]

glowy

[sterile garnet]

ruby reward s10 leak

[versed ore]

phenomenal abs

[grand brook]

Player retention in s9 is much better than s8 in this stage.

By the start of month 3 of S8, the game sometimes struggled to have a 24h peak of over 10k

[wooden nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-lenny-abs-ab-roller-backwards-gif-16550137003976691650

[wanton wadi]

This YouTube channel make me feel old

[stark plank]

rate this play out of 10 please guys? I might be a pro

[wanton wadi]

10,5M comments !?!?

[wooden nexus]

Lol keep seeing these same comments season after season game goes on, more content, arc secured the studios financial future.

Meanwhile new fps live service games launch attract hundreds of thousands of players only to die a month later...

I think we good 👍

[long crag]

s9 is def better than s8 but thats not a very high bar to gap, i just want content that actually shakes up the meta or forces people to play differently. whatever mode they had where specific weapons are valued more than others neexs to make a comeback

[crystal swan]

Instead of lamenting the inevitable end... How about we enjoy the game for what it is right now before it goes?

[grand brook]

I also want them to shuffle existing gadgets a bit, maybe give gateway to medium and something like that idk

[long crag]

by ur own metric the finals falls into that category. 140k at launch to 20k now, thats over 80 percent of the playerbase

[minor wing]

somebody explain this non-elim to me

[fallen quiver]

I feel like this game isn't going anywhere

[long crag]

sonar should have stayed on meads tbh

[sweet grail]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-monkey-sad-depressed-bored-gif-5034977601414753845

[fallen quiver]

Idk why we would think it's going to "end" soon

[crystal swan]

I mean people here expecting this game will be here for a century or something

[wooden nexus]

Such a baseless metric. You ignore consoles and monthly active users, and also, how much money is actually being spent? 30k consistent players per season buying a battle pass means alot more than 150k players playing high guard and not spending a penny

[grand brook]

Also grapple was supposed to be a med spec, and actually it makes more sense on med

[fallen quiver]

I think it's at least gonna be here til the end of the decade..

[crystal swan]

Just enjoy the game. Fuck what the general audience think or feel about the game. This game is awesome.

[versed ore]

how the fuck does a movement spec make more sense on med

[long crag]

ofc they gave it to light

[fallen quiver]

No, def does not make more sense

[crystal swan]

Easier access to roof peeking

[stark plank]

is there a viewable playercount anywhere that doesn't include steam? I bet the Chinese version pulls more players than we think

[crystal swan]

They should give Charge to Light. It makes sense because its a movement spec

[graceful tinsel]

100%, the damage should probably go up because its really about velocity not mass

[wanton wadi]

Hru ?

[fallen quiver]

Honestly if they removed the damage...

[long crag]

it was the metric you set idk what to tell you. concord and highgaurd failed bc they had 0 identity. this game has identity, it just doesnt know if it wants to be for casuals or sweats, why do u think they stopped epsorts?

[dull charm]

Someone mentioned that the Chinese version has more ruby players than the steam average daily concurrent players so... I think its doing well over there

[crystal swan]

It would be really funnyy to see Light blast through a wall though

[graceful tinsel]

Pitch that to Embark for the next LTM

[fallen quiver]

Lemme go RAHHHHHHH

[crystal swan]

This is how we fix dash 💀 By making it Charge N Slam without damage

[dull charm]

They stopped esports for a completely different reason than not knowing whether to be casual or sweats.

[wooden nexus]

We don't really know the china numbers, or the console numbers, we only have steam, which doesn't actually show you the total players, it just shows you the peak players not the total amount of monthly active players

[long crag]

they also get all the cool fun updates ( bring back nuke.)

[stark plank]

they should give heavy a nade that when thrown on the floor projects nearby players into the sky, would help them with close up lights

[fallen quiver]

Only thing that needs fixing with dash is less visual clutter

[long crag]

what was said reason? seeding?

[stark plank]

that was not fun haha

[long crag]

this is why chinals gets all the cool fun shit and we get everything gutted

[dull charm]

No, because some high-school level relationship drama brought the competitive scene to its knees.

[long crag]

very embark

[dull charm]

I wish I was joking.

[smoky kestrel]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DVcqUwxCOM4/

Insta post is also up peeps, this was a lot of fun to make

_the_hypex_

Banner Commission!!! Tried a new style, turned out amazing @embark.studios

#teamsecret #thefinals #art #gaming #footsteps #japan #electric

Instagram

[long crag]

i need the lore now

[wooden nexus]

The drama surrounding that is unrelated to the game overall, it's to do with those players

[long crag]

nah reskinned heavy hitters

[sweet grail]

Just thinking about things, so introspective I guess 😂 haha, how about you, hru

[daring current]

statistics like what, just match history? i already log that manually and add extra comments for ranked matches

[stark plank]

this game will never retain players when they can't even make a casual gamemode that doesn't put people with 50k+ kills against newbies, I see it all the time

[long crag]

esports aside my point still stands ab the game not really being for anybody

[wooden nexus]

I heard they might be adding bots

[daring current]

people should NOT be good at videogames

[wanton wadi]

I feel old af 'cause I'm creating a Good Ol' Meme playlist with Old Meme

[sweet grail]

Enjoy the nostalgia

[long crag]

its more ab giving ppl the freedom of choice and allowing for different types of gameplay. the only reason OW has survived this long is bc theres so many ways to play that game, in the finals its sweat in ranked, sweat in WT, or deal with the games frustrating balance in the casual modes

[sweet grail]

Ugh no

Noooooooo 💀

[wanton wadi]

Star wars kid

[wooden nexus]

It suffers from a smaller player base of hardcore players who paradoxically keep the game alive while stop the game from growing by curb stomping new players from learning the game and they quit due to frustration and lack of fun 😂

[graceful tinsel]

and it's not our fault at all

[wanton wadi]

@sweet grail

Do ya remember that Golden Song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q6yphdZhUA&list=PLA0UP0SSKZpwGA-DfmUmHEZ18zcZry06F&index=8

[long crag]

this is why i think things like a custom games browser or other gimmicky LTMS are how u get people to come back and keep playing, otherwise its a sweat fest for the love of the grind (reskinned heavy hitters and bringing back kill confirmed is NOT bringing new content)

[stark plank]

not just leaderboard stats, there are obviously far more there just not available to the public

[sweet grail]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-gif-4679601

[wooden nexus]

Just do the fortnite thing and put bots in so the kids and the teens can live in the delusion that they are good at the game killing fake players while the rest of us get melted by rubies

[graceful tinsel]

I mean I think there was something about how they were working on bots for the next season

[long crag]

bots would ruin the experience imo

[stark plank]

yeah fuck the new players let's keep them away

[steep raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1478275205767106693/Skill_Issue.gif

[wanton wadi]

This one is probably the most famous meme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ&list=PLA0UP0SSKZpwGA-DfmUmHEZ18zcZry06F&index=16

[graceful tinsel]

I'm worried about the game thinking I'm so shit I have to fight bots

[dull charm]

TL:DR

2 'Pro' players, defined as people that compete at the highest level, were apart of orgs and went to the major last year.

1 pro player made a comment on a voice call to a female "J", he was in a relationship. She didnt like the comment, the broke up, he and all his friends (other pro players) banned and blocked her. She got mad and made him out to be harasser.

Other pro, cheated on his girlfriend, "H", told another girl, "Z", and "Z" then also released a bunch of stuff against the wishes of "H" she wanted to keep things private.

J and Z pushes for the pro players to be banned from PHL (Pro Hub Leagues, biggest independent hub for the finals esports), which was an RFI event (allowed points towards the grand major).

PHL banned the pro players, and embark said that if they banned them because of what currently was shared theyd lose RFI status (merit on their event to count towards the grand major)

So all of PHL staff kept the ban, Embark removed their status, then all of PHL quit, and 2 Other large orgs in the competitive scene (Breakout and Ape Squad) both stated they're pulling out from the scene as well.

So then Embark made the post about pausing the scene.

[hidden iris]

At this point I am convinced the cerbi is only good for gas spammers. In any other scenario there is a better weapon. The cerbi excells at being D tier garbage and if it wasn't for its gimmick it'd be F tier.

[daring current]

smurf prevention is more important and prevents that first

[steep raven]

bored.

[junior quartz]

good recap

[long crag]

this is somehow worse than the marvel rivals situation

[stark plank]

you don't get that when a new person downloads the game and picks quick cash or power shift then gets absolutely smashed 0-12, do they enjoy it? just make them wait longer for a session with lower elo players

[wooden nexus]

For newbies / below bronze lobbies, so people can shoot stuff and blow stuff up and enjoy the mechanics of the game without the competition, worth a try, what's been tried so far has not worked

[graceful tinsel]

thank god it wasn't 50 pages

[wanton wadi]

[junior quartz]

literally a screenshot of someone telling someone else something that supposedly happened

[hidden iris]

Novel idea but maybe we don't need Esports to carry the Finals? Maybe we can just enjoy the game?

[dull charm]

The one that released today was 80 pages...

[graceful tinsel]

whar

[long crag]

point break was a good start, its the only mode theyve done that actually teaches new people how to play without so much pressure to bring their A game

[dull charm]

We dont need esports to carry the finals, no. But the finals is very fitting for esports to have a place and shouldnt be neglected either.

[weary gazelle]

what is the drama about exactly? im not reading a 40-50 page manifesto on it so someone give an actual tldr unlike all the terrible summaries ive seen so far

[junior quartz]

internet bullshit

[stark plank]

not hard for them to detect a smurf, someone going 7+k/d with silly high accuracy % should put their account against better players accordingly no?

[dull charm]

#⚡┇the-finals-chat message

[long crag]

low elo lobbies are just the 7th circle of hell

[weary gazelle]

oh shit didnt see that you sent that, my b

[graceful tinsel]

is smurfing honestly that bad? (outside of ranked sure)

[stark plank]

yeah I'm not talking about you, what about new players who just downloaded the game lol

[dull charm]

The first document on pro player #1 was 40 pages..

The one on the 2nd player was like 80 pages... 🤣

[hidden iris]

The finals will never be an esports friendly game and the quicker we realize that the quicker we can get actual meaningful balance changes that are not seasonal metas.

[long crag]

thats why i said what i did for low elo lobbies. not bc im low elo but bc in any game thats just how it is when its nothing but apes running around

[junior quartz]

people need to go have real relationships instead of going to ruin the career whoever they e-breakup with

[stark plank]

worse if anything, new players aren't jumping into ranked they're playing casual

[graceful tinsel]

I mean does the game actually have a smurfing problem

[haughty gale]

yes and no, just hard to find a rhythm with a game that prides itself on being so vastly different each match

[dull charm]

What makes you feel, the world's greatest gameshow, is not esports friendly?

[long crag]

majority of playerbase doesnt play ranked so id say its a pretty big issue

[weary gazelle]

i cant possibly imagine that it goes deep enough to warrant that long of a doc bro, people need to keep that shit short and sweet if they want it to reach a wider audience

[junior quartz]

i mean theres no sbmm outside ranked

[graceful tinsel]

It's all about farming multi hour documentaries nowndays

[junior quartz]

if you end up against a smurf you would've ended up against their main anyway

[stark plank]

I don't play ranked but from me playing casual I see such a contrast in players cos of the shit matchmaking

[weary gazelle]

i heard smth about someone not choosing a certain player in the hopes of elicit photos from some girl that said she would send em if they didnt choose said person

[dull charm]

Worse part too is the screenshots in some of these are just super blurry. Like when your teacher handed out a test where its been photocopied from a photo copy that ran out of ink slightly, then a picture was taken of it, and that was the image that got photo copied again.

[long crag]

then the gap bewteen the hardcore playerbase and new ppl is just that wide, a common complaint i hear is ppl going against rubys or emeralds as a level 10

[pine abyss]

Ive read all of it in 1 sitting and honestly it’s mainly high-school drama

[hidden iris]

There should be certain weapon matches ups that are just objectively better. You cant balance a match with a CL40, sword, and a Shak-50. One will always eat the other and I am tired of people complaining that it shouldnt just be like that.

[wooden nexus]

Agreed

[stark plank]

I can't confirm but sometimes it feels like there is, but if there isn't then that is why this game will die

[graceful tinsel]

Would it be better to just keep the new players in a single pond and then let everyone else get crushed less by rubies in casual?

[dull charm]

Yeah that was a segment in it, but wasnt actually true from the other players perspective. Just the female trying to give herself more credit for a result of a situation she tried to be involved in.

[void moss]

Man i hope s10 comes out before ww3 begins

[weary gazelle]

yeah im just confused why people are still so focused on it, im sitting here wondering why in god's name im still dealing with the most abominable hit reg, desync, and damage inconsistencies imaginable. but i guess none of the shit that actually pertains to their game's performance matters

[long crag]

which is point break or payload rn, as they are the least punishing to play and learn. outside of those 2 modes you really only have to look forward to sweating

[graceful tinsel]

payload?

[weary gazelle]

i make a post about it in bug reports (which i know isnt gonna change anything, let alone even get read) and all i get is some response about someone who thinks they know what they're talking about, acting like its a non issue and its just other game components that cause what seems to be "hit reg"

[pine abyss]

The girl told grad to choose lamp instead of bizzy in exchange for yk what so grad chose lamp

[daring current]

yes and no, 1 we dont know how embark made or copied the system and from who, 2 if we want as transparent and robust systems to prevent smurfing and people of higher rank player with any lower just for the sake of playing then doing tweaks or loosing restrictions is what we need, 3 is unreal engine game which is still developing a proper anticheat and it aint riot to be expert about differences in skill which could well be magnified by the smallests of differences

[weary gazelle]

yeah they were both in the wrong tho from what i could tell, dude shouldnt have been thinkin with his meat like that but at the same time she shouldnt be tryna manipulate an event with shit like that

[daring current]

and again, you expect new players to be dogwater when they could come from any other shooter game and the shooting and minimal game sense remains

[haughty gale]

A valid take imo. Always been a big debate in fps games about melee vs ranged. Melee is always gonna lose to someone with good aim.

Might be a controversial opinion but I'm all for banning certain weapons in different gamemodes. For example: sniper in platform shift.

[pine abyss]

Exactly, reading the whole thing was kind of a waste of my time but atleast it’s cleared up now

[graceful tinsel]

#👂┇game-feedback now

[daring current]

rotational or selective bans should be ok like each team before ranked match going chosing to ban 1 spec, 1 weapon 1 gadget, per team or just 1 weapon or gadget

[haughty gale]

Theres no point cause Embark will never do it.

[graceful tinsel]

thank god

[haughty gale]

Like i told the other guy, embark is probably never going to implement a system like that. Too similar to R6 and i dont think thats the direction they wanna take it in

[daring current]

development time like minecraft

[hidden iris]

its ok you can always go to #💥┇spawn-point instead of minimodding ❤️

[graceful tinsel]

Pardon?

[stark plank]

hence why they need to be more transparent with their stat api for the public. whole game feels so half arsed with the user experience. can't check player accounts on steam (can on arc?) can't see player ping, no in game account viewing. they fall short on stuff like that. personally I have hardly seen many cheaters and they are very obvious on this game, wallhack is hard to detect but aimbot is super obvious with the movement speed. and what does reporting do? just a submit button that goes where?

[tawdry swallow]

@ivory mica what happened bro? did your internet cut out?

[charred thunder]

Egg

[fallen quiver]

Idk why you would do any kind of equipment ban. Map voting on the other hand IMO you should get the choice between 2 maps and then ban 1 modifier (for the lobby)

[haughty gale]

Idk, imo there are just certain gamemodes where weapons are clearly better in it. Ranked cashout/cashout should stay the same (in terms of weapon choice) tho for obvious reasons. I play a lot of power shift so I'm a little more biased in terms of that but weapons like CL40, spear, and sniper are all given an advantage in a gamemode like that where majority of the team is confined in one area

oops meant to reply to someone but whatever

[stark plank]

map voting is a +

[hidden iris]

I just wish they'd implement actual balance changes instead of pushing seasonal metas. These things don't happen by accident and anyone with half a brain can figure it out when you got all the data you could ever need. What we need is weapon reworks, especially for weapons that aren't preforming as well as they should. Everything should be viable at the highest elos and any elo.

[weary gazelle]

they're talking about THE FINALS in THE FINALS chat in THE FINALS server. wdym pardon bro, quit being pedantic and acting surprised when someone gets on you for it. these mfs dont even look at game feedback lets be real

[stark plank]

and revert that destruction 'upgrade' they did recently lol. physics and vaulting feel so jank since the destruction is too chaotic

[graceful tinsel]

I just thought it was a unique take man

[fallen quiver]

Imagine like you could choose between Kyoto and Monaco AND THEN ALSO choose to ban duck and cover 🙏

[hidden iris]

Chat pregnant man react this man

[haughty gale]

You do realize by that logic then sword needs a buff right?..... right?

[weary gazelle]

oh, my bad bro, thought you were saying "pardon" to him as in like "excuse me what did you just say to me?"

[stark plank]

ooo or even ban a class (light)

[graceful tinsel]

Oh sorry about that, I think I just took the message wrongly and all

[ivory mica]

Im not on the game

[weary gazelle]

i was kinda bouncin off what he said about you saying #👂┇game-feedback now, i think we both thought you were just tryna enforce some insignificant rules

[haughty gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1439688589113032826/1469920870217678996/IMG_0118.gif

[hidden iris]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znpDV6BECA

[stark plank]

sorry I am trying to be impartial but hating lights comes deep within

[fallen quiver]

I don't think you understand how much worse this game is without light 😭 🙏 Double H/M teams are infinitely more annoying lmao

[hidden iris]

We should buff sword light. >:3

[haughty gale]

I've been saying it for awhile.... CL40 is the most unskilled weapon in the game rn.

[graceful tinsel]

It's about having consistent morals not whatever meta says is good

[stark plank]

nah this game needs lights unfortunately but you can't deny they are the reason it isn't beginner friendly

[haughty gale]

The game isnt beginner friendly cause of the matchmaking lol

[graceful tinsel]

Wouldn't the average fps gamer be more used to a light like gameplay?

[haughty gale]

I'd say medium, but its kind of a hard pick. def some overlap

[stark plank]

this is a different breed of fps

[haughty gale]

really doesnt matter tho, still technically an fps, still gonna be compared to other fps

[stark plank]

cs?

[graceful tinsel]

While light has less health the sheer emphasis on gunplay and ratting around at mach 10 feels like the standard

[robust mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/the-finals-cashout-crashout-kumo-kumonademuncher-gif-2297107828514978009

[surreal depot]

Ain’t no way lol

[versed sail]

What no ospuze in usa stores does

[daring current]

[robust mesa]

ospuze is necessary for proper contestant brain function

[graceful tinsel]

keep on trying

[daring current]

fun fact, throwing props at the wall can actually damage it, doing that teached me that

[graceful tinsel]

how long does it take to break one?

[haughty gale]

The way I view it is that the light class puts an emphasis on using your primary weapon already. Yes the gadgets help, but lets be real, a light isn't going to be using them as much as a medium or heavy class uses theirs.

Light is frag/aggressive class
Mediums focus on map manipulation (demat, data reshaper, zipline, jumppad)
Heavy is the defensive class

so yea, a light is gonna be the more "annoying" class cause theyre the ones getting the kills

[daring current]

ummm, you have legs...

[compact viper]

What are the best gadgets to use with m11 for light

[robust mesa]

gateway, glitch, h+

possibly thermal bore?

[graceful tinsel]

okay imagine an evily handsome goo gun heavy was consistently gooingup that singular entrance

[graceful tinsel]

maybe goo nade?

[robust mesa]

oh duh. i'm dumb

[haughty gale]

i do hope for season 10 at least one other class gets a new specialization. i wouldnt even care if we got any new guns.

[wooden nexus]

100% it's been a while so we'll get one

[compact viper]

Is smoke any good?

[haughty gale]

I do hope for everyones sake its on the medium class tho

[graceful tinsel]

ehhhhhh, you could try something with meele or stealing?

[wooden nexus]

Situational, most of the time no

[haughty gale]

it was when thermal vision was in the game

[violet salmon]

best weapons for medium right now?

[haughty gale]

Yk what. MIGHT be controversial. But let thermal vision be the new specialization for medium.

[graceful tinsel]

akm, p90, repeater, riot shield? (maybe not repeater)

[violet salmon]

thank u

[haughty gale]

cerb not good enough even with the buff?

[violet salmon]

akm really? sight or no sight

[fallen quiver]

Yeah it's not an intuitive class to play or play against but once you figure it out the game becomes a lot more fun. This game just requires quite a bit of effort to get into.

[dull charm]

Thermal wouldn't be great for medium at all

[vestal sable]

p90 or revolver

[haughty gale]

I understand, but it would be less broken then light having it. I do agree that it would probs be virtually unused tho

[graceful tinsel]

Thermal just feels wrong to try to explain use without smoke nade

[haughty gale]

fair fair

[wooden nexus]

Sea shanty 2

[dull charm]

Just make thermal vision something on select weapons. Like how weapons used to have scopes before every gun can have them.

Stuff like the XP or the FCAR. Just give them built in thermal scopes that you can toggle and call it a day.

[haughty gale]

side note what was wrong with the old stun gun tho? i didnt play enough back then to run into it a lot

[compact viper]

Should I use dash or cloak with m11

[graceful tinsel]

Evilish (If I remember right they your movement got slowed and it was a free kill (IF YOU COULD AIM 😭 ))

[haughty gale]

thermal scope would be nice on some weapons

[neon pendant]

The current state of my Rep 3 Conqueror

[stark plank]

yep, good lights are a menace

[ancient raptor]

basically just a free kill

[dull charm]

No counter play. Was typically stunned and dead without anything much to do about it.

Which is the same reason a lot of people hate winch, but at least they can fight back.

[fallen quiver]

😈

[graceful tinsel]

mostly

[haughty gale]

Really never had a problem with winch. I feel like the heavy class is very balanced right now, but what do i know

[wooden nexus]

Quick melee to counter winch on a small timed window, change my mind

[neon pendant]

It sent you back to primary and slowed you to a crawl, death sentence to melee players and old stun was super annoying paired with an smg and cloak

[haughty gale]

Not a bad idea tbh

[solar onyx]

Grapple solos sorry

I'm a certified grapple enjoyer I love the movement tech with it

[compact viper]

I thought grapple was only good with sniper

[haughty gale]

Feel like if I ran Sword, Stun gun, smoke, and thermal vision i'd be a menace. Especially sword pre nerf too

[graceful tinsel]

Grapple is good all around, but dash is better in solely shooting fight and going a bit more zoom

[solar onyx]

Speaking from experience it's good for anything

[wooden nexus]

It could smash the chain into a different direction and even winch random objects to the heavy or another player

[solar onyx]

It's a really good traversal tool, rotation tool, as well as escape tool etc

[neon pendant]

True, that would be back when phantom hits existed on sword too

[solar onyx]

I ran into a grapple dagger user and was absolutely traumatized by the moves he was doing

[compact viper]

What's a good counter to sword users

[neon pendant]

Dagger, flame, shotguns

[graceful tinsel]

I've heard of these meele grapplers before

[haughty gale]

as a sword player, flamethrower

[graceful tinsel]

FLAMETHROWER!
GUARANTEED TO ALWAYS TRADE (unless they are cracked and use the m2 because that's kinda graceful)

[haughty gale]

or anyone with good aim :(

[solar onyx]

They're very quirky

[graceful tinsel]

im sorry for your loss

[haughty gale]

yea takes 4 left click swings to kill a heavy, 5 if he has a heal ball on him. More if hes got heal beam. Plenty of time to take down a sword if ur on flamethrower, or at least end up killing him with the lasting fire

[neon pendant]

Its kinda ironic that Dagger counters sword

[compact viper]

What's best with bow (sorry ik I'm asking alot of basic questions but I feel I need to know in order to play better)

[stark plank]

counter to a light is a hot shower

[graceful tinsel]

hon hon hon

[graceful tinsel]

Don't worry about asking questions nvm get out of here I read your bio

[haughty gale]

lol thats why i run gadgets that allows me to get close to them super fast. Using up all my dashes in a straight line never works. Nullify is good if the shot lands, gateway for getting height, goo for defense, vanish bomb to be sneaky. Whatever works yk

[compact viper]

Its a inside joke with friends sry

Not ment to be just rude lol

[wooden nexus]

Arrows

[graceful tinsel]

your friends have good taste

[haughty gale]

fishy taste but sure

[compact viper]

Suprised you know what that tast like being a sword user

[haughty gale]

we have our ways

[graceful tinsel]

Do they ever see you coming?

[haughty gale]

but for bow, id say grapple is pretty good. Its gonna be hard to hit shots with dash and vanish is vanish

[fallen quiver]

Aim

[neon pendant]

This is why we dagger

[graceful tinsel]

GO FLAMETHROWER, NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo

[haughty gale]

no theyre usually turned away

[neon pendant]

No dagger beat flame

[graceful tinsel]

NOT ANOTHER

[fallen quiver]

Good with anything that doesn't require you to be right next to someone (matter, sword, dagger), but worse than dash overall. Aka just use dash

[wanton wadi]

Gn chat

[haughty gale]

what the fuck bro

[graceful tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/oshi-no-ko-yaosobi-hoshino-ai-ai-hoshino-gif-8231693823407830679

[graceful tinsel]

also where are those polish like people from?

[fallen quiver]

Dash, infuser, glitch, gate is the standard light loadout. Is best for everything on light

[haughty gale]

wouldnt mind 2 grapples tbh, longer cooldown ofc

[graceful tinsel]

I swear I've seen characters like that before

[haughty gale]

or ur grapple is range dependent, the farther the wall is that ur grappling to, the more of the "rope" it uses, for a logner cooldown

[fallen quiver]

I think if it just had a shorter cooldown, it'd be a lot better.

[haughty gale]

i like that too

[compact viper]

Your so right bow and grapple are op 🙏

[fallen quiver]

You could give grapple a 6 second cooldown and it'd fix 90% of its issues

[wanton wadi]

What character ?

[fallen quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-how-do-we-tell-him-squidward-krabs-gif-13179031326593565060

[haughty gale]

Yea but i feel like theyd nerf the range to justify that cooldown tho

[graceful tinsel]

this

[fallen quiver]

Why? The thing is useless currently. Nothing about a 6 second CD would make it OP

[haughty gale]

Ig ur right

[graceful tinsel]

I mean how would you really use it in a fight, especially if you risk getting suck

[wanton wadi]

That's Pandemonica from Helltaker

[sweet grail]

Rest well my friend 🥂

[graceful tinsel]

thanks mate

[daring current]

PAIN 🥖 🇫🇷

[wanton wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/baguette-oui-oui-baguette-paris-france-queenaceone-gif-14214998866707045774

[fallen quiver]

The same way you do now, just more frequently. Currently grapple isn't even really enough to out pace a heavy enough to not get chased and shot lmao

[daring current]

JOHN OSPUZE IS IN MY MATCH

[graceful tinsel]

Oh I had them earlier today too (also with Freaky_Finals but we did win anyway)

[burnt raven]

Petition to add a bare-foot/no shoes cosmetic or option

[pine solar]

https://tenor.com/view/dale-walking-dead-i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-gif-3136629546574604277

[weary gazelle]

finally a good fucking suggestion

[wanton wadi]

Petition to add more furry characters

[weary gazelle]

finally a terrible fucking suggestion

[wanton wadi]

[ancient raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/rodrick-camera-point-rodrick-heffley-diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-gif-13001614153341977897

[burnt raven]

Imagine me running you down with sandals throwing knives, but then you look at my feet and see - Im wearing my shoes??? Why do i have heals and extra flip fops in my hand????

No, my skin combo meant to be enjoyed with no shoes and chanklas in hand

[crystal swan]

Do gateways not work on this floor??

It took my fucking charge too wwhat the fuck

[pine solar]

That's weird, I've never seen that happen before

[crystal swan]

We LOST that quick cash game cause of that. Embark should reimburse 20K RS

[stark plank]

anyone grab a good club tag when they could?

[charred thunder]

Egg

[charred thunder]

Love this! Give it to mee ahahahahha

[pine solar]

un-glitch him right neow

[wanton wadi]

It's available on the CNS server

[daring current]

MF LOST 8TH PLACE NO CASHOUTS LOL

[stark plank]

EGG tag or egg

[wanton wadi]

CNS tag

[crystal swan]

[pastel sail]

Mika out here running non-inverted Flashbangs.

[crystal swan]

God forbid my teammates pick any other gadget instead of flashbangs as their gadgets 🥀

[pastel sail]

true 🥀

[crystal swan]

WHO CAN BLAME THEM WHEN OTHER GADGETS DO STUPID SHIT LIKE THIS

[wanton wadi]

Fix yer game Embark

[crystal swan]

It took my gateway into cooldown too

[steep raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1009830578545246213/1478410956987170968/image.png?ex=69a8f5bf&is=69a7a43f&hm=62fdb8176e2bf7fc6db5f3706505ba0b73b661ea69df1af06da60f692e8fd70c&

man Team Secret armor blocks sight when i use this skin.

but somehow i aimed properly..

[grand brook]

Best spec with minigun?

[daring current]

probably charge n slam

if anything winch in h2h

but you kinda want more options to move around or get closer and finish off

[grand brook]

Yeahhhh i think goo or cns

[chilly holly]

It turns into recognizable screen faster, as far as I know

[pastel sail]

Ah, I see.

[chilly holly]

Even if it's turning into same level with same speed I think extra bright is better than extra dark to seek enemy though

[pastel sail]

True.

[shy crown]

Magic 8 ball, is season 10 going to be good?

that's twice in a row

The universe is speaking chat

[stark plank]

2 sr84 in ps, love it

[tardy trail]

Does anybody know if the Grand major requires you to play all three classes or nah?

[fallen quiver]

I think they required hml but don't quote me.

[shy crown]

at the time it was the best anyway

[daring current]

source?

[shy crown]

still is again now that light has double glitch nade again

here's to hoping more than 1 set is viable in s10

[daring current]

it still in theory is the best, although stacking heavies is still quite effective

[shy crown]

There was like 1 month where double heavy medium was shaping up to be meta but then glitch nerf got reverted.

[lost cedar]

okay the past three rounds i have gotten players who its genuinely their first time playing the game and they have to be playing on a phone or some shit because their sensitivity is the lowest it can go and they are not capable of looking and moving simultaneously

[lost cedar]

they never did, there were a few teams who didn't run that

[fallen quiver]

Maybe not for quals but for the actual major I think they did. But if you could dig through the documents and let us know that would be great.

[fallen quiver]

Are we dumb? I said "I think" and "don't quote me" what part of that makes you think I have a direct source?

[graceful tinsel]

OH NON

[edgy python]

The fact the switch and the switch 2 don’t have menu music is a fucking crime

The 3DS system settings theme is a fuckin BANGER 🗣🗣

[brazen mural]

Maybe the menu music is the friends we made along the way

[edgy python]

Nah it’s lame

[brazen mural]

[stark plank]

nothing beats getting smashed to death on powershift then coming back for the win

major gamemode when

[graceful tinsel]

real

[graceful tinsel]

I don't think so but it was meta

[tiny valve]

Is anyone else having super rough server lag on the US west servers? Me and everyone in my parties has had super bad lag

[tall verge]

WHAT THE FUCK

[lost cedar]

i remember an LLH

[graceful tinsel]

damn

[daring current]

wasnt this like the one set exclusive to gamepass

why is it on sale

[sweet grail]

As far as I know you could always buy it

[daring current]

really?

[raw sigil]

no, you just got it for free with the gamepass, it was in game for everyone to buy*

[steep raven]

should've also used the pen, not just looking at it.

[grand brook]

ivada drip is cool

[steep raven]

especially with this.

[grand brook]

a cyberpunk western setting, cooooool

[exotic umbra]

Anyone playing right now?

[grand brook]

messing around in point break

[exotic umbra]

I’m tired of being on golf purgatory

[graceful tinsel]

im sorry?

[exotic umbra]

Gold*

[grand brook]

dude i have been stuck on silver for a week, my friends dropped ranked, and i keep getting queued with players with less than 1k kills

[light shard]

Guys how much world tour points do you need to get emerald 1

[exotic umbra]

I’m playing a ranked rn but I’ll play with you if you want

Get you into gold if I can so you can suffer with me

[graceful tinsel]

thats how ranked "skill reflecting matchmaking" works

[grand brook]

what region are u ?

[grand brook]

haha i am pretty sure i am above their skill level

[light shard]

Help please

[exotic umbra]

USA so probably north or whatever

[daring current]

a lot

remember that is 4 sections of each tier

[grand brook]

i am in EU, we can play but i'll lag a bit haha

[grand brook]

2400 iirc

[light shard]

WHAT

[stark plank]

anyone wanna play ps?

[graceful tinsel]

might be abit late to grind

[stark plank]

eu or us

[exotic umbra]

Ps?

[stark plank]

power shift

[exotic umbra]

No hate but what’s the love with power shift

[grand brook]

how many points do u have currently

[stark plank]

it has its negatives but more of an actual team game over the others imo

every class has a role + I'm not a fan of 3 teams haha

[light shard]

I’m at plat 4

So 717 I think

As long as I play 3 hours of quick cash and win every single game I’m good

[grand brook]

you need 81 points a day

[light shard]

Oh goodness me

[exotic umbra]

I I enjoy messing around on ps but can’t take it serious

[light shard]

Where did you get this

[steep raven]

what app is this

[grand brook]

this nice site somebody made back in season 7

https://www.thefinalsloadout.com/wt-progress

[graceful tinsel]

hai ada

[exotic umbra]

I don’t think I can send a picture

[stark plank]

I love it for some reason, comebacks feel earned and you can adapt to every scenario

[exotic umbra]

I was trying to share my profile and stats but screw me lol

[graceful tinsel]

dm me

[carmine ingot]

ok

[exotic umbra]

For permission? Or just cause you want to see

[graceful tinsel]

I can foward the image you want here?

[exotic umbra]

Smart

[graceful tinsel]

@exotic umbra stats

[exotic umbra]

I’m like the song all I do is win, except I mostly lose

[carmine ingot]

ponderosa do you ponder at the rosa

[exotic umbra]

Nah it’s from a tv show

[worn flare]

@summer steeple bruh

[edgy python]

Man I sure do love discord

[graceful tinsel]

wow

[worn flare]

Spam them back

[edgy python]

I prefired the bot and it shit itself 😭😭

[graceful tinsel]

legendary conversation discord says

[edgy python]

oooh here we go watch this

[stark plank]

you know you're on us servers when some kid has auto mic activated speaking spanish

[edgy python]

DAWG 😭😭

I’ve never had one break like this before it’s hilarious

What should I say to the bot here

[turbid sonnet]

return the favor and spam back
idk

[stark plank]

better objective score than most lights tho

[edgy python]

I think the woker would work

The bot blocked me😭😭😭

Humanity wins again

[worn flare]

Light is the easiest class, my hot take

[tall verge]

I'm tired

[edgy python]

Idk I’m going to sleep then going to a pizza party tomorrow 🤩

[stark plank]

light class is hard to use but a master of it is gamebreaking. you should not be able to beam with the arn

[sweet grail]

Rest well my friend, enjoy the pizza party tomorrow 🔥🥂

[edgy python]

I will thanks boss, gonna show off my modded 3DS to huzz so maybe I’ll get a phone number

[stark plank]

last resort ask for email

[edgy python]

I have their emails were classmates

[minor wing]

i may be lower but i have a bit more confidence now

[tall verge]

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-shelby-angry-gun-suicide-tommy-shelby-scream-gif-13308840837117934178

[sweet grail]

I think I understood that 😂 good luck my man I hope you get that number

[stark plank]

peaky blinders mentioned

golden star if you're from the US and watch without subtitles

[wary bronze]

Times were good when pike for medium was the meta

[tall verge]

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-shelby-angry-gun-suicide-tommy-shelby-scream-gif-13308840837117934178

[stark plank]

or when rpg to the floor did more damage to the enemy than yourself

[wary bronze]

Jst play any other game bruh

[light shard]

Thank you so much

[wary bronze]

Yh

[exotic umbra]

I was once 26,9xx and now I’m almost 21xxx rs. I’m in hell

[wary bronze]

I remember used to sit in the hall trying for 30 minutes and would just rage quit becoz it wouldnt connect me to a game in august

[stark plank]

a question for you light players, if you had a choice to remove one of the 3 nerfs would it be the spawn delay, item use delay or halved health?

[worn flare]

I love getting 1v5 by lights tho. Having your team actually help you is game breaking

[stark plank]

for defib I missed the main part somehow my bad

[stark plank]

rather get teamed on than whiff killing a light, at least you have an excuse 😂

seeing a little rat dash away with 0.01% of his health bar is enough to make me commit a war crime

[crystal swan]

My man's learned a valuable lesson to walk into a guy with charge n slam into tight spaces

[stark plank]

wow 178k is mental, highest I've seen

[forest saddle]

play the finals for a living and you will probably get it too

[stark plank]

ah then I've casted my eyes a little lower and seen 90 kills

[hearty fern]

How’s 300~

[forest saddle]

yeah, that was crazy. he got like 40 kills in a round. that's crazy. it was a wt match

[stark plank]

he can't be that good, but with 178k kills he must be legit

[forest saddle]

well, i can see the s8 ruby badge so why wouldnt he be good

[stark plank]

90 kills 🤣 😭 bro must only stop killing when he reloads

[merry fulcrum]

When the cashbox spawns right next to the obj

[formal galleon]

when you have 0 dollars

[sweet grail]

No u

[formal galleon]

no YOU

[sweet grail]

Noooooo you !

[forest saddle]

no me

[sweet grail]

Damn rip

[forest saddle]

im the gamchanger hahaah

[steep raven]

mmm

[steep raven]

love face skin > anime face skin

[old wasp]

I dont have anny money as well. We the same

[steep raven]

what am i holding.

[stark plank]

dunno how to react when I get meowed on

[old wasp]

Meow back

[steep raven]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-salute-gif-8108032990738097175

[worn flare]

Had a guy teabag me only to lose the game. You may not win the fight, but you can always win the war

[sweet grail]

Stand proud (rank here)

[tall verge]

anyone else having this issue

[formal galleon]

how is ts possible

[stark plank]

once they teabag the obj is old news

[iron tapir]

i remember when this chat never stopped moving.. the good ol days

https://tenor.com/view/middle-of-nowhere-tumbleweed-desert-no-water-gif-12085928

[night lantern]

hi

[iron tapir]

yo commit how you doin

[night lantern]

shii chillin enjoying some time off

[iron tapir]

wwww, you still been playing marathon? i remember you streamed it during the beta

[full oracle]

i love ironsights

[night lantern]

nah i couldnt even play that server slam cuz of that mouse cursor issue so i jus said fuck it and didnt play it

[iron tapir]

ahh that sucks, what mouse cursor issue? was it like an issue with the game or your pc?

[night lantern]

there was an issue where ur cursor was like 3 fps and i couldnt kit up or do anything

[twilit stream]

is the server in Asia down, been lagging a lot, my net seems fine though. Anybody can confirm?

[iron tapir]

ohhhhhhh gg w devs

[iron tapir]

should be fine, it could just be brief intermittent issues with the servers, that seems to be the norm nowdays. if the servers were down down this chat would be flooded

[twilit stream]

@iron tapir ahh ok. They usually dont announce it or say much for Asia as far as i know,

[iron tapir]

are you getting any warning symbols to the right of your screen in-game?

[spark valley]

Please buff the wt points for point break. The game mode is fun but the matches can take an eternity. I want to play for fun, not for the grind. Also add more outfit slots

[twilit stream]

@iron tapir yeah, im getting all 3 of them, switching between yellow and the occasional red, so its like, ping and latency for sure.

[iron tapir]

take a look at https://id.embark.games/the-finals/support/faq/46-in-game-warning-icons---pc-playstation-xbox - which ones do you think are showing? that page should also help you troubleshoot the warnings

[buoyant glacier]

Where is All Chat? I want to insult the spear mains.

[iron tapir]

this is the main chat

also, hi @atomic seal

[atomic seal]

pyoid

[iron tapir]

how are you doinggggg

[atomic seal]

had a crossaint smashed burger

[versed ore]

imagine getting tilted by the worst heavy weapon

[iron tapir]

was it good?

[atomic seal]

heavenly

in fact I haven't had junk food in awhile, so probably even better feeling

[iron tapir]

can i ask....whatever happened to dun, walker and nate. i swear you're the only CM i still see talking in chat :(

[atomic seal]

oh they're just busy on different tasks

Walker will be back

[iron tapir]

YIPPEEEEE

[faint harness]

#ReBan @iron tapir

[iron tapir]

ahh okay, i see

[atomic seal]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-the-deep-black-noir-the-boys-dude-gif-3422013016823044640

[faint harness]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-the-deep-bro-gif-9003163676469616067

[cerulean stratus]

my literal FIRST finals game in weeks, it's ranked, and I get the bug where anticheat kicks you and makes you revalidate all your files.
final round as always

[iron tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/oceans12-laser-dance-scene-heist-cat-burglar-avoiding-lasers-gif-11741206

[gray quail]

love when I lose 3k rs when I solo q

[night lantern]

that isn’t very health maxing of you

[ancient badge]

typa shit double sword does to casuals who can't aim

[atomic seal]

it's my first piece of burger in probably4 weeks

[cerulean stratus]

Well, guess I'm going back to quitting the finals

the reason I quit happened my literal first game back

fun, wish i could play

[ancient badge]

and that is

[cerulean stratus]

#bug-discussion

[night lantern]

you get a pass i guess… i had a demonic smash burger with a poutine like a month ago, was heaven.

[iron tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/the-door-is-open-you-may-leave-gif-15357849

[sharp plaza]

season 10 when

[cerulean stratus]

also forgot to mention the very supportive and nontoxic community

[iron tapir]

in like 20 days

[atomic seal]

as long as we balance the diet and exercise routines

[sharp plaza]

nice

[night lantern]

true, a cheat day every once in a while never hurt

[iron tapir]

who's toxic in this community?

[atomic seal]

we gotta be happier sometimes

[buoyant glacier]

Sorry, I want to insult the enemy.

[night lantern]

i’ve been craving this pesto lime chicken pasta at a fancy spot near me icl…

[faint harness]

i havent installed that irl dlc yet

[atomic seal]

sounds like it's about time

[atomic seal]

oh you should consider getting one

[night lantern]

nah nah i’m only a week of eating decent and healthy i gotta stay locked in

[night lantern]

sup!

[forest saddle]

i saw this vid today and shared this ss here. people were suprised to see this

[night lantern]

what’d u think

[forest saddle]

^

[night lantern]

my guy

[forest saddle]

i think it's pretty cool. 40 kills a round. i dont even get 40 killls in a tdm match

[sharp plaza]

and the glazing starts