game-discussion

[visual verge]

need a dwarf skin pls

[digital pike]

Why did they nerf mining

They really said "we don't want this Veradux guy to jew the market"

[tired dome]

BORN TO SHIT FORCED TO WIPE

[digital pike]

you said it pal

[tired dome]

It's 9AM are they going to wipe or what, such lazy people

[loud tapir]

have they posted a time for the wipe

[tired dome]

7AM their time

its 9 am right now in Korea

[loud tapir]

so it should be happening any moment?

[tired dome]

Lmao "should" you forget it's Ironmace

[wraith wigeon]

I’ve got 200k gold and a goated arena kit. Is now the time to run an epic HR run?

[autumn wren]

Are there any wizard players who are genuinely out of gear but want to play still? I have a great HR wiz kit to give away but want it to go to someone who needs stuff to play with

[digital pike]

How many ores are there to mine on normal vs high roller and does having PvP enabled change that

[limber delta]

Stay away from solos, teamers are rampant

[terse sinew]

What time is wipe in Spain ?

[celest cloud]

imagine how dead the chat would be rn if everyone wasnt asking what time is wipe

[sonic maple]

What time do we rat tripe

[prisma horizon]

Well its wipe time so there is not much else to talk about

[grand swallow]

W wipe

Prehgo gobloins

[celest cloud]

you must be new to think that. its usually a cesspool of the dumbest people you've ever seen complaining about stuff right around this time.

usually the tavern talk spills over into here

[autumn wren]

Any rogue players that are actually out of gear but still want to play? have a great kit but want it to go to someone in need

[ashen inlet]

Is there anyone that could trade me an Ancient Stingray Egg for some BIS kits and some other stuff? Please it's less than 6 hours until wipe and I've been farming this stupid egg for weeks with no luck TwT

[wraith wigeon]

why the eff you need that rn?

[ashen inlet]

wdym for the quest that gives the torch obviously?

[smoky jetty]

😂

You too late I already traded all 7 eggs

[inland umbra]

HEY GUYS DO WE THINK THE WIPE IKS GONNA BE SICK OR NAH

[waxen ether]

Might be

[tired dome]

How was I spamming dumb robot

[compact wasp]

it looks like several things that were pain points for our community are being dealt with, and steps in the right direction are something to be happy about imo 🙂
hopefully one of many updates that can slowly earn back trust

[tired dome]

KOREA NO 1

JK CHINA NO 1 !

Out of curisoity, why is Number abbrevated to NO when there is no O in the word ?

[ashen inlet]

.

[tired dome]

It's 10 AM can they wipe already like sheeeesh

[inland umbra]

i know i can obvviousloy look it up but if you dont mind, can you tell me what are some of the main positive changes?

[tired dome]

No true dmg or speed on items

[bleak merlin]

Do we know an exact time they’ll start the wipe?

[digital pike]

So do ores spawn randomly in rooms on the goblin caves or is it set rooms

[tired dome]

As God intended

[pale mica]

so when is the patch hitting, anyone knows?

[tired dome]

Patch was supposed to hit at 7 Am its now 10 Am, but it;s Ironmace so I'm not surpised if its delayed a few hours

[compact wasp]

personally for me, i think some of those pain points were instant transformation on druid, movement speed meta, true damage stacking, and defensive gameplay not rewarding enough most of the time unless you were fighter with counter-attack and shield mastery

[pale mica]

oh yea its 10am in Korea time rn, patch could drop any moment

[compact wasp]

we saw more opportunities for defensive gameplay being rewarded when more weapons got parry+riposte, like the rapier became much better imo

[tired dome]

I think patch will drop in 2 hours or so

[ashen inlet]

Is there anyone that could trade me an Ancient Stingray Egg for some BIS kits and some other stuff? Please it's less than 5 hours until wipe and I've been farming this stupid egg for weeks with no luck TwT

[compact wasp]

im sorry if u dont get it in time friend, but if its any consolation, it'll be in the shop for blue shard i believe in season 9

[halcyon kite]

Anyone need money to finish religion before wipe? or gear?

[pallid hemlock]

wipe timer is just under 5 hours rn

[tired dome]

They lazy AF

[drowsy gorge]

Monk hype?

[tired dome]

Praise The Lord

[wild parcel]

Servers up let’s go!

[tired dome]

Game has not wiped lmao

[open hill]

has it wiped yet??

[charred turtle]

Noo xD

[open hill]

damn

[zealous trout]

Monk Dwarf Fishing hype

[woven parrot]

does that anouncement confirm a wip for tomorrow

[safe falcon]

anyone knows when the wyppe is?

[tired dome]

Soon Tm

[abstract hazel]

Game is saved.

[sterile wadi]

Any1 on the game rn that can tell me what wipe timers at

Tweaking in class rn

[tired dome]

4 hours and 30 mins or so

[sterile wadi]

Whaaaa

It got delayed? Not surprised but I thought it was dropping soon

[tired dome]

It's Ironmace bro come on

[sterile wadi]

So true

[neon fractal]

Anyone know the time that the new season drops?

Sorry saw above. About 4hrs?

[tired dome]

yeah

[trim tendon]

don’t forget to account 12 hours of maintenance

[neon fractal]

F

[trim tendon]

be lucky to play on the 29th like they said lol

i’ll be on bmx streets and maybe some test server cringe. i still don’t know warlord after 4k hours

[dark burrow]

It didn't get delayed, it was always 1 am est, 7 am cet

[sage dome]

anyone thinking the game will be playable tonight is lying to themselves

[manic cliff]

SEASON (INSERT MONK HERE) 8 ALMOST THERE GUYS

i can't wait to 20 frames per minute the gob 2 map away

[deep helm]

is there an updated map online like there used to be to show me ore spawns?

[main raven]

Just looked at last wipe. The patch was estimated to take 4 hours, and got delayed for an additional five lmao

So, I'd just take whatever they say the time will be and double it for a rough estimate

[deep helm]

because the devs r dumb?

[main raven]

I'm not sure if they're dumb, incredibly overconfident or just far too optimistic

[silver snow]

is there anew class coming thiiis wippe?

[timber imp]

Let them cook

[main raven]

That being said, basically every update has delays on it rofl

[deep helm]

the only good thing they have done is more ore spawns and a non pvp mode, other than that the devs have ruined a game with no competition

[main raven]

With that said, I can kind of see why they would do it that way, as it might make more sense than estimating too much time and then finishing everything up early

[timber imp]

This update gonna be peak that's why it's gonna take longer.

[deep helm]

ive heard that many times before

[main raven]

My hopes aren't TOO high on this update, but it looks interesting enough to give the game another go and see what they've got going on right now

I'm quite a fan of a lot of these changes, even if it took honestly way too much time to figure this stuff out lmao

[livid rain]

any idea on how long the maintence gonna be?

[deep helm]

i need an explanation on how you kill a game that has no competition? Like there isnt anther game out there like this one yet the devs killed it and killed it during the when dnd hype was high bc of balders gate 3

[main raven]

Last wipe was planned to be four hours and delayed for five more, putting it at 9 hours

[hard harness]

I wish these devs give a more precise approximate time accounting for the delay that will always happen

[deep helm]

have u not learned that these devs dont know wtf they are really doing?

[main raven]

For a new wipe, I say just start at eight hours so even if you still need to delay the patch, its only an hour or two

[deep helm]

they throw darts at a dart board and hope it goes well

[main raven]

I mean, last wipe was literally delayed longer than the patch was supposed to take rofl

[timber imp]

Let them cook dang ik you're excited, I am too.

[deep helm]

when u r on patch 106 in under 2 years u have essentially screwed up big time somewhere

im excited to jew the ore market like i used to

i will rule the ore market with an iron fist

[main raven]

honestly I don't see the issue with this exactly, is it supposed to be higher or lower than that?

[deep helm]

much lower, much much lower

[deep helm]

that is damn near a patch a week

[main raven]

I'd think frequent updates is generally pretty good; its how the playtests were done

[deep helm]

uk the difference between playtests and now?

[ashen inlet]

Is there anyone that could trade me an Ancient Stingray Egg for some BIS kits and some other stuff? Please it's less than 5 hours until wipe and I've been farming this stupid egg for weeks with no luck TwT

[main raven]

the game was never tested long-term until Beta, which is when most of the complaints started

[deep helm]

one was a beta and this is the full release. Betas are meant for frequent updates. Full release is either quick bug fixes or big updates. Generally u dont fix things weekly unless ur game if flawed or u keep breaking it bc u r dumb

did they never add paladin like they said they were going to?

[timber imp]

Dude is the most unhappy miner ever.

[deep helm]

this game sucks like a lot. Only good thing is more ore spawns so I can jew the market much much much faster. I dont know if u played this game back when it released but it is a good bit different. I am just hoping range classes arent all S tier still and running lobbies

[lone mountain]

how many time left?

[agile sigil]

4hrs

[deep helm]

can u not tell time? Its at 12am EST. Its 910 rn. Do math

[warm kraken]

probably 12 hours downtime who knows

[timber imp]

I like the game, they been releasing very good updates and more content. I agree range is meta but they are nerfing movespeed and true dmg so it'll actually feel like pdr and mdr actually matters again

[lethal badger]

Wipe hype!

[shrewd island]

Has ironmace confirmed wipe is at midnight EST?

[ornate raft]

the timer ends, who knows when the wipe is

[timber imp]

Also what kinda ore we talking, you got that strong stuff or just basic copper and cobalt?

[eager jolt]

12 hour downtime sounds right then a 4 -6 hour delay once they say its going to be up

wont be able to play till friday

Graysun slobbering all over the servers

[simple cosmos]

whys the queue so long

[junior sparrow]

im redownloading the game, ive reinstalled twice and when i hit 7gigs remaining i get "failed to update pakchunk1400-windows.pak" i played the game 2 weeks ago without any issues, does anyone know a fix?

[gusty birch]

lies everywhere , at first they said Shadows Of Chroma and Midnight Walkers will be f2p. Now MW devs deside like this 😅

[haughty latch]

Does the game wipe in 4 hours?

[simple cosmos]

im on a 20min queue wtfffffff

[tall wyvern]

they havent gave a time no one knows

[obtuse agate]

You know what would have increased uptake on HR Adventure Mode ?? Turning on Goblin Recovery

[unreal obsidian]

@simple cosmos check your server.. mine was changed earlier

[prisma star]

its gonna be back on

but they removing HR PVE anyways so

least populated game mode

[obtuse agate]

yeah the payoff wasn't there - AP too low for the risk of losing your good kit in pve where nobody can even at least scoop loot after you die anyway (not gear). may as well just run PVP HR instead

[simple cosmos]

they added way too much bs on this game.. it was perfect when it launched..

[wet delta]

just came to say that your dream is dead guys go back to the playtests please
the game was peak back in the old playtests

[sweet crow]

This and giving it a 25% AP reduction rather than their severe 75% reduction to kill its momentum before it ever began.

[pearl sundial]

So geniune question, why do they remove All Att, True Dmg, Max HP, and MS AGAIN? Last time they did this, wipe was basically over in 2-3 weeks..

[slow oxide]

Where is the wipe timer?

[junior sparrow]

also when i repair files it just goes from 7.44gigs down to 7gigs and then it loops back infinitely to 7.44gigs

[tiny laurel]

Because every single build basically put them on every single item they could go on so it limited build diversity.

[daring reef]

my only concern with any of this is. what are the people that had to rely on true phys and stuff to compare to a plate fighter with 50+% pdr going to do now?

[tiny laurel]

Frost amulet

[daring reef]

they said they were changing it to add phys didn't they?

[pearl sundial]

Understandable, but that's just how BIS works no?
Additionally, what happens now that BIS gear is basically impossible to get for the average player, or it will be too easy to get and the game will die (like last time).
Just concerning that i feels like the Devs dont learn from their own mistakes

[slow oxide]

The fighter is also unable to Max HP and Move speed. so kiting is more realistic

[tiny laurel]

I heard absolutely nothing about that. What I heard was that they were going to remove it from the random rolls not from the static rolls.

[pearl sundial]

Frost amm confirmed to have add phys i believe

[tiny laurel]

I wonder if that means that they're going to change Amulet of peace to have percent max HP instead of flat HP

[slow oxide]

Hey gang, where's the wipe timer tho

I'm poppin an Addy just to grind out when it releases tonight

[daring reef]

should be in the game on lobby screen?

[slow oxide]

Oh I gotta launch the game? Ew

[lime igloo]

lol it wont release for probably another 12 hours

[tiny laurel]

Depends if they're going to let you spec main stats with diamonds again because then getting BIS will be easy

[proven blade]

friendly advice dont wait up, you never know with IM. BUT WIPE HYPE

[slow oxide]

That is true, it's happened 100% of times but this time I'm a believer

Their game is wayyy too dead to fuck it up this time too

[pearl sundial]

Ur a giga believer, esp after that dev qna XP

[slow oxide]

Oh shit I haven't watched the QnA 🙁

[tiny laurel]

Update should start in 3 hours 15 minutes. Honestly expecting it to be scheduled to take 2 to 4 hours but it's probably going to get delayed and taken additional 4 hours so the release time is probably sometime between 3:00 a.m. and 9:00 a.m. EST

[slow oxide]

I'm the least believing believer in NA stg. I still believe the devs want R T M

I think they censor the M and T swapped

[tiny laurel]

Was the confirmation posted in some form of text or just spoken about?

[lime igloo]

I can't wait to block a halberd with my book!

[pearl sundial]

psure they specifically said it in the dev talk, but they arent the best at articulating what they mean.
Majority of reddit summaries include some message about changing it but ofc we could all be wrong

[rapid perch]

This is my first wipe. How long are servers usually down for it?

[boreal ledge]

24 - 48 hours

[rapid perch]

Oof okay

[unreal obsidian]

could be 6 hours.. could be 3 days

[lime igloo]

Large variation from past history expect 6-12 hours. Maybe longer

[boreal ledge]

dont believe the delay announcements either, its always 10x what they say

[tiny laurel]

I'm a fighter main and I'm actually curious because if true damage is removed from all static items not just random roles that will affect a few commonly used rings and amulets. Additionally, they only said they'd remove plus Max Health not plus percent max health so if they end up removing true damage completely from items and keep percent max Health as a role just not flat Max health then PDR/MDR Fighters are going to go absolutely crazy this season.

[unreal obsidian]

i think frost and phoenix will still have true

[lime igloo]

you have disarm. You will be crazy just from that

[tiny laurel]

That was my interpretation because as said, they only said they were removing it from random roles not static roles in the patch notes but multiple people have spoken about how there were a lot of mistranslations in the dev Q&A.

[warm ingot]

They said this is add not true now

[tiny laurel]

That was my question, where did they say it? I must have missed it.

[fiery gazelle]

In ther Q&A it was very quickly mentioned that its changed to Add Physical Damage now

[unreal obsidian]

anyway.. when wipe.. place your best on central time when game will be available to play with no more emergency hotfixes

[tiny laurel]

Did they mention anything about the necklace of Peace having plus Max Health removed?

[fiery gazelle]

I don't think so

[tiny laurel]

So yeah, PDR and MDR Fighters are going to go absolutely crazy LOL

[dense sluice]

Wipe at midnight?

[unreal obsidian]

fighters will be the tankiest thing and disarming everyone at the same time lol

[tiny laurel]

Disarm is going to have to be absolutely crazy to justify people switching off Sprint and second wind

[unreal obsidian]

@tiny laurel facts.. new abilities are usually op

[hazy sable]

Anyone having problems with install, pakchunk800 error?

[tiny laurel]

Especially now that ad move speed is going to be removed from gear I can't imagine anyone in a PVP setting ever switching off sprint. I feel like that was kind of an oversight given the fact that half the things they removed they were only removing to open up build diversity.

[unreal obsidian]

yep

[junior sparrow]

im redownloading the game, ive reinstalled twice and when i hit 7gigs remaining i get "failed to update pakchunk1400-windows.pak" i played the game 2 weeks ago without any issues, does anyone know a fix? verifying files also does not work, it just continuously loops from 7gigs back up to 7.44gigs

[unreal obsidian]

Did you complete uninstall from windows? @junior sparrow which launcher are you using?

[junior sparrow]

i followed their steps of uninstalling twice, uninstalled the game, the blacksmith launcher and deleted the folder and redownloaded the game. i did it twice and both times get stuck with that error at around halfway through the download (7gigs)

[fast cypress]

@sick dune add me homie

[slate axle]

can i get a free kit??

[gleaming gulch]

no way they release it at this time. gonna be another 12h for it to even start patching, then another 8 for it to be done if were lucky

[autumn thorn]

is this game any good?

im just here for the discord tag, but is this game worth playin or what

[gleaming gulch]

huh

[pine wyvern]

these drops fucking suck lma

[dusky spruce]

Another undead 🫠

You know, I can't wait for cleric abilities to do extra damage to undead player skins. Just because.

[neon fractal]

Here some shitty twitch drop announcement but nothing about the wipe that was meant to have already happened.... Cheers

[wintry dove]

Game has no motion

[neon fractal]

Just one word.... Devs

[narrow peak]

lol you will enter game at Jan 30th so plan your tomorrow carefully 😂👍🏻

[wintry dove]

Destroyed my favorite game

[prisma geyser]

wipe timer hasn't ended wym should have already happened?

[earnest current]

drop tomorrow that mean DELAY 1 more day not wipe today F..ck

[stone root]

why are drops always so shit?

blue bandages?

does purple or legendary bandages hurts IRONMACEs pocket?

is it too hard to code better items for drops?

[woeful socket]

Did anyone notice purple gear has reduced stats in the trailer? Purple item gave 2 vig 2 will instead of 3 and 3

[stone root]

so incompetent

[narrow peak]

We’ve all been here, tomorrow will go like this:

• patch process will take 12 hours
• due to problem during patch the process has extended by 4 hours
• we continue to have issues patch will take another 2 hours

Patch is done! You are ready to enter! 😂

[earnest current]

u noob ? you know why they delete purple bandage ? only blue heal item only

[junior sparrow]

i tried those commands and restarted pc, but the download stil does the same thing. right now i re-did the commands but im verifying files and i think i passed the % i normally get too so there might be progress

[weary thorn]

guys I took a long break from the game, how is it rn? are rouges still cancer? is the game more balanced?

[junior sparrow]

will verifying files finish my download up? since it only downloaded halfway

[lone mountain]

its open?

[steep gull]

What is ssf?

[slow oxide]

Bro ffs, I thought it was a wipe announcement but it was just Twitch Drops
BOOOO

[junior sparrow]

ah nvm its looping back again, verifying the files is doing the same thing as downloading

[mellow ice]

Solo self found. Looted and crafted and stolen only.

[slow oxide]

True Phys damage nerfed means rogue heavily nerfed.
And Thank GOD Druid got gutted too

[steep gull]

Ok ty!

[weary thorn]

thank god, and ty!

[slow oxide]

I have no clue, I don't play this bootycheek butt game.

[teal forum]

When is wipe time released ? I don’t see a time

[stoic shadow]

WHO THE HELL IS KILLING ME EVERYTIME I LOAD IN

fud

@zinc sparrow ban hammer

im saorry

i was out of line

[wet delta]

@zinc sparrow revert this game back to its original playtests and gain your concurrent 300,000 playerbase back the original dream for this game is lost in the pursuit of trying to satisfy the wrong communities

[pine wyvern]

W copium @wet delta

[wet delta]

u have never even played the real dark and darker your enjoying some real slop right now

[slow oxide]

This was so based

[pine wyvern]

i got over 1k hours dark and darker stop whining

[wet delta]

in what the new slop it is today 1k is nothing

[pine wyvern]

og playtest was good but it wont make 30k ppl come back ur slow

[wet delta]

the og playtest had a concurrent playerbase of over 300,000 you lukewarm imbecile

[pine wyvern]

it doesnt mean if he reverts it they will all come back like robots

[dusky spruce]

You missed the part where they take the game down two hours later due to a critical bug.

[wet delta]

god this kid is slow

[pine wyvern]

u are delusional if you think everybody will just come back lmao

[narrow peak]

Ohhh right! 😂👍🏻

[frozen sleet]

[pine wyvern]

when s7 dropped we had 8k concurrent for about 1 day

[narrow peak]

Wow these guys are still around? 😂… I thought they went extinct in season 6.9

[lime igloo]

The first few playtests wouldn't even feel the same if you reverted back. Everyone sucked at the game at that time.

[pine wyvern]

what im saying thats like saying if og fort came back game would be revived look at it now😂😂

stuck in the past bc nobody rly knew how to play back then

[daring onyx]

How long untill the wipe ?

[slate axle]

2 hours

[vagrant fulcrum]

1h12 m for the day of the wipe, but the wipe could happen like 12h after that, and last 8 hours

[vocal eagle]

whens wipe

[mortal meadow]

so when doe wipe drop? it is at 12 (2 hours from now near me) or wha

[vagrant fulcrum]

The in-game timer is for the day of the wipe, which is your tomorrow

[slow oxide]

Say you swear to God

[mortal meadow]

11:59 pm?

[daring onyx]

So we aren’t gonna play at the 12 :30 or close ?

[slow oxide]

Bro this adderall cost so much, you're telling I gotta wait till LATE TOMORROW?
I wanted to pull an all-nighter grinding wtf

[daring onyx]

Literally

[slow oxide]

I literally called into work already, I'm boutta tilt so hard

[subtle goblet]

Go get some energy drinks

[slow oxide]

@subtle goblet I got some

[daring onyx]

Better

[subtle goblet]

you're good then

[solid saddle]

Rookie mistake

[main raven]

Last wipe update started at about 3 PM EST, and after delays got done at about midnight

[slow oxide]

Adderall and energy drinks bro, I was boutta show cave troll who's boss for like 8 hours straight

[vagrant fulcrum]

For Season 7,

• After the end of the season timer, [the patch was pushed back 12 hours](#📢announcements message). The in-game timer was (and likely still is) only a countdown to [the day of the wipe](#the-tavern message), and not the time of the wipe.
• The [season's patch](#📢announcements message) started at <t:1758654000:s> (estimated for 3h, but extended two times) to finish at <t:1758686520:s> (so a total of about 9 hours)

It is therefore presumed that the wipe could start anytime between <t:1769662800:s> (end of timer) and <t:1769749200:s> (24h later) and could last for who knows how long.

[slow oxide]

@vagrant fulcrum Will Graysun refund my purchase of a controlled substance?

[solid saddle]

Best case we get patch notes in 2 hours an server on in 6, worst case they fuck something in the database and server gonna be online in like 30 hours

[vagrant fulcrum]

That's a fair assumption. Very large, but most likely true.

[dusky gyro]

Been here for every single wipe. This shit won’t be playable till tomorrow night. Mark my words

[slow oxide]

Bro I'm literally so mad rn

I'm boutta bring my Glock to the local McDonald's

[main raven]

Yeah last wipe was playable about 25 hours from right now

[dusky gyro]

Pretty much every wipe has gone like that

[slow oxide]

If I post my phone number can someone call me when the servers are up from wipe?

[bitter kelp]

can you get AP from bringing enemies gear out

[topaz folio]

You should since it’s looted

[daring onyx]

I would but I think I'm going to sleep

[vagrant fulcrum]

I think that worst case scenario is

1. <t:1769662800:s> (end of timer)
2. Wipe starts 12 hours after that at <t:1769619600:t> for "seven hours"
3. Patch process is extended for three hours, twice and ends at like <t:1769583600:t>

[slow oxide]

Damn...

337-831-6685
Someone call my phone when the servers are up after new patch, thanks kings

[dusky gyro]

Bro even if they dropped the patch right now. It’s a minimum 4 hour patch with minimum 1 2 hour delay

Go to bed

[slow oxide]

All g I'll be at work someone call me

Gotta tell my boss I aint sick anymore now

[dusky gyro]

Lil bro is 100% getting sent dik pics

[slow oxide]

I'll mald

[ornate raft]

Season 8 Drops 1 begins at January 29, 2026 7:00 PM
That assumes the game will be up at 7PM EST, ill be impressed if it is

[dusky gyro]

Sooo if a barbarian is using whirlwind. But gets disarmed. Does he start backhand slapping everyone?

[slow oxide]

W interaction

[fickle root]

Anyone know why they taking out HR adventure mode?

[static gazelle]

bc it's for losers

[vast kayak]

Get the wipe guy some coffee and let's get it started early!

[fickle root]

right but like game play wise

[static gazelle]

no more catering to losers i guess

[fickle root]

So they just removing content even tho only 3k ppl play this game?

Streamers only play pvp?

[vast kayak]

Has nothing to do with game play, just that they need to save some money. And the guys that started getting it handed to them with the peaceful AP farmers gone complained enough.

[fickle root]

damn

So people were bitching

[deep helm]

what happened to the gear cap? Like go in with grey and go against grey, go in with majority of a rarity and that is the rarity you go against. Was it taken away? If so is that an update that killed the game on top of terrible balancing?

[bitter kelp]

Does slayer work with a shield and sword?

[vast kayak]

Yes, I've seen certain streamers complaining about it. It never had a chance. Introduced mid season and then judged based on participation. No balancing adjustments there to see if it could appeal to more people like we see in every other game mode.

[upbeat wigeon]

Praying for dwarf race

[vast kayak]

+1

[deep helm]

so they are taking out the gamemode for the casual players and catering towards pvp and streamers? Isnt that the devs moto? Screw the little guys that made us popular at one point. Streamers only matter

[hard harness]

when is wipe?

[static gazelle]

casuals didn't alpha test. it was never about you filthy casuals

[deep helm]

god u dumb dumb

[timber imp]

dude everytime the devs listen to the casuals the game becomes very boring and bad.

[deep helm]

god damn that is the worst take ever

90% casuals left and game went from 30k to 3k really fast

[digital pike]

I for one am not going to pretend like PvP in this game is balanced.

[tiny laurel]

The reason they got rid of HR PVE is because it had the lowest player count of the four game modes and had the lowest retention of consistent players. It was basically used as an area for players to learn HR before they're forced into PVP and I'm assuming that the small group of players that used it for that purpose are not their priority.

[gusty sentinel]

stonekick dance is so mid id rather of had an emote taking a shit

[deep helm]

casuals make up the majority of every player base of every game. Streamers and sweats are the 1%. Cater towards majority and dont listen to minority and ur game wont die

as it is the game is boring and bad to play bc it is go against sweat and die, go against sweat and die, rense repeat

[warm kraken]

no downtime announcement yet 😂

[nimble vessel]

Is the update out?

[quiet stump]

no couple more hours

[stray heart]

So is paladin class coming this patch?

[willow beacon]

yo graysun and sdf stop being fucking stupid and listen to ur community. we are ur game. 5x5 crypts. Two layers. Ruin 1 layer map. You fucking koreans need to be more open minded. I worked with 30 koreans in a michelin restaurant in nyc. you guys are so stubborn. just open your soul to options. if you think something is great see if u can make it better. ego will kill u. i love you guys and ur passion but you need to listen to others. it’s so this or that in ur community. love dnd but yall are killing it

[mint nebula]

thats completely false, casuals do NOT make up majority of this game so your argument is invalid in this case. DaD is hardcore, period, the game died cause they removed core elements and other more fun-based content without warning and continually flip flopping

@zinc sparrow what i wanna know is are you pulling another patch 69 with the gear rolls? tbh if anyone can tell me if they clarified on this or not

if thats the case W ill take that

[manic cliff]

is game on maintenance already?

[deep helm]

U r right kind of. Casuals do not make up the majority ANYMORE. Most of the casuals have been forced out and left from terrible balancing and sweats. At its peak casuals for sure made up the majority. They lost 90% of its player base and like 80% of the 90% were casuals. Now out of the 3k left 90% are sweats. Because casuals do no go back to a game that pushed them out.

[warm kraken]

wtf does "5x5 crypts. Two layers. Ruin 1 layer map" even mean

[mint nebula]

bruh they never made up the majority of the player base, and ive been playing regularly since season 1 only time it came close was when they 1st added PVE mode when we had 10k+ players and even then i guarantee you it was 50/50. The game was NEVER designed for casuals it was designed to get casuals better at the game progressively

[odd grove]

preach, the casual players were never designed to stick around because it isnt a casual game period

thats why arc raiders is doing so well its so milk toast dull its perfect for casual players

[mint nebula]

ngl arc is a great game, BUT i doubt it will retain any solo players, pvp in solos is ASS in arc

[deep helm]

god damn u r dumb and blinded. It was casuals, ive been playing since the test phase days. It has always been majority until now. But not casual friendly is the reason its dead and they just need to shut servers down soon. The other thing is they raised prices of legendary from the old like 15$ to 30$ so casuals are again pushed out. It was casual friendly.

[odd grove]

if the game catered to casuals 100% it deserves to be shutdown because it wouldnt be dark and darker anymore

[spare pagoda]

what's the point of ssf for arena if all you have to do is get mats and craft your purple kit?

[deep helm]

1/10 games u would run into a sweat sweat. Now it is 9/10. We used to be able to run into a game, make friends, mine, and laugh and chill. Now it is fight for ur life bc 90% of the lobby are sweaty sweaty

[warm kraken]

everyone thinks casual means something different, do you call people that play PvE for 4 hours a day casual or are they just a pve bot

[odd grove]

next wipe arena is not ssf

[spare pagoda]

its just buy a purple kit?

[odd grove]

aye

or craft em

[deep helm]

casuals are those that want to chill after work and grind out a little bit before bed. They are those that are forced to run meta and dont do so willingly or just dont at all.

[mint nebula]

cause the player base got better....bruh you're just mad you're the only casual left in the game, go play arc or somethin. DaD isnt for you and never was

[deep helm]

god damn u r actually dumb dumb. Player base didnt get better. Got sweatier and only play meta. Meta isnt skill. I run the 1v1s against meta and win 50% as a pve barbarian. DnD was for me as a big DnD fan and br fan. The game was for casuals, I used to rule the ore market by jewing it

[mint nebula]

"player base didnt get better it got sweatier"........yeah YOU of all ppl calling me dumb aint a insult

[spare pagoda]

lol theyre going to always run into that gear issue for arena it's been an endless loop of going to blue arenas up to gold and back down to blue. The problem has very little to do with the rarity level of gear and more so to do with how easy it is to obtain the best gear you need for arena

[odd grove]

yeah player skill hasnt evolved in 2 years right

[warm kraken]

can you give an example of how you know someone is a "super sweat" when you're fighting them

[deep helm]

go ahead and explain then how i am wrong. Bc from the few pvp games I see it is all the sweaty classes. and those havent changed from the old days

[spare pagoda]

because you saying the playerbase got sweatier is pretty much saying the players got better

[mint nebula]

ok well to explain what you just said in simple terms was " the player base didnt get better, they got a lot better" so there's that lil dumb mistake

[mint nebula]

^^^

[deep helm]

sweatier isnt always better. Some games like Battlefield it can mean better but a game like this hell no. They got meta, they run meta, and if u take away their meta they are shit shit

[mint nebula]

2ndly THE GAME WAS NEVER DESINGNED FOR CASUALS, IT WAS DESINGED FOR THEM TO GET BETTER OVER TIME

[odd grove]

I miss the days in the playtests where the only lobby was trios and i was still killing trios as a solo rogue , but i cant do that anymore
almost like.. players got better.. no that cant be it

[queen tide]

anyone got 90 k gold to donate to me for getting the religion skin

[deep helm]

the same players running meta today ran meta 2 years ago and have just been swapping between classes

[glacial elk]

when start update? and when end?

[odd grove]

youre a bit late my friend

[deep helm]

Rogue isnt S tier like playtest days, he could 2 tap mofos in the playtest

[queen tide]

yeah but i just hoped in to check this league to check out the skin and might as well ask

[viscid kernel]

Anyone on right now and can tell me the wipe timer?

[honest lake]

just put the wipe in the bag.

[warm kraken]

rofl

[stoic shadow]

rogue is for weenies

[warm kraken]

rogue could 2 tap in the playtest because you could get like +12 additional on greens

[ornate raft]

lol 1 hour from wipe, I too work better with a little pressure

[viscid kernel]

Thank you

[queen tide]

real

[ornate raft]

ill get you 10k

[odd grove]

shame you werent on earlier ive given out like 60k gold i have like 4k left if you want that

[spare pagoda]

is that hbox? lol

[bold salmon]

Anyone know what time this update drops? I’m EST

[ornate raft]

no im a pikachu main

[spare pagoda]

whats his name? axe? i forgot.

[trail flicker]

Easy to debate by yourself. Everything you say there can easily be smacked down and chalked up to IRL loserish/jobless mentality. You worked ina restaurant with koreans so you just know them? Yeah every intellectual throughout history makes their claims based on their anecdotes too nice mim clown

[coarse portal]

Love we people call other people sweaty. Like youre not trying to win in a pvp game. And wow would you look at that people who put time i to the game got better at it??? Sounds like you need to stick to pve bud it was made for you

[ornate raft]

yeah! both of them put up some nice fights 😄

[trail flicker]

Agree with this 100%. EVerytime someone calls other people 'sweats' as a negative I can only think of how bad it makes them look. They more passtionate? Trying harder? Get off my team if you are not trying : )

[spare pagoda]

do you actually play smash competitively? 😂

[charred veldt]

Wish they remade some craftable weapons or made new ones like "pseudo artifact" craftable weapons, but with clear drawbacks

[spare pagoda]

I wish they leaned back from craftables and pushed more into finding items in dungeon again like the game intended

[charred veldt]

Example: Fire staff: +20% damage to all fire magic and burn, drawback: -30% damage to all other source of damage (applies when equipped in the weapon slot)

[spare pagoda]

did i deadass typed fighting 💀

[charred veldt]

Not a goofy ASS +1 true damage

[odd grove]

that would be giga broken but if youre only using it as an example ill let it slide

[ornate raft]

well not at their level thats for sure 😄

[charred veldt]

I have MANY other really good examples

[spare pagoda]

go fight amsa and rapm

[charred veldt]

The banshee's sonnet (worst boss drop ever, tome of the fairies is absolute garbage for the amount of work you need to get it) could be made to craft a set of "pseudo artifact instruments", a "Cursed instrument set"

[spare pagoda]

but let's be honest 9/10 you're uncontested fighting that boss

[charred veldt]

Sure, because no one wants to fight a 5% chance of the sonnet
Spectral is 100x more profitable, valid argument, still too rare to have no (worth) use

[rocky magnet]

Hi sorry when wipe guy

[queen tide]

anyone got 80 k gold to donate to me for getting the religion skin

[charred veldt]

Then for the flute you could have the players affected by it could have their games muted like the 7 soul banshee effect, but also mutes the performer's game with the same effect

[spare pagoda]

I just jogged 9 miles, I want to sleep but I gotta wake up at 5 😩 idgaf im playing wipe unless they delay like they usually do

[plain carbon]

WEN WIP?

[odd grove]

go to trade ill give u 8k im in there bigfatman

[spare pagoda]

I'm calling it 1-2 hour delay

[low salmon]

when is the update starting tho

[neon fractal]

Where communication from devs.... Zzzzz

[charred veldt]

Then for the drum you could have one that has 50% boosted effects but deals 1/8th of your HP as true damage every time you play it, and it is heared from twice as far

[queen tide]

anyone got 70 k gold to donate to me for getting the religion skin

[queen tide]

thanks

[charred veldt]

For the lyre you could make it almost mute so you can do aggressive group invis plays, and the drawback being lyre songs take twice as long to cast

[hardy tiger]

any word on which patch process is starting?

[spare pagoda]

O sht someone just said wipe is delayed, looks like im right 😂

They never fail to not push something out on time

[charred veldt]

for the lute you could have 1.5 times extended duration effects but makes you unable to play the same song twice (or use another lute song before performing with a different instrument)

[spare pagoda]

gotta check reddit

[charred veldt]

absolutely broken? no, but really worth for certain niche playstyles considering it takes something 3 times harder to get than a troll's pelt per instrument

[unique birch]

I don't want to load up season 8 I can see myself play long sword knight and getting run down by a ranger or rouge who just have a ton more annoying projectiles with a 200% MS

[rapid halo]

Is there a reason to play on steam over just sticking with blacksmith?

[charred veldt]

Also it's not like a dirty instrument could be an artifact regardless so

[odd grove]

you cant migrate anymore anyway

[charred veldt]

Meanwhile tome of the fairies: +5 magic damage bonus

Deadass legendary spellbook is better for 3 times less price

[rapid halo]

I know

[honest lake]

Just put the wipe in the bag

[charred veldt]

and the stupid golden book

[prisma star]

boutta load in trios named 3 man, meet us in castle East baby lets have some good fights!

[charred veldt]

they could've made it a magic weapon for starters, take away ALL the physical part and make it hit only magical, boost the magical damage to that of a staff and a little more and make it unable to cast spells

And done, no more barbs running people down with a book they don't know how to read

[prisma star]

as a barb main, youre correct, i cant read

[charred veldt]

Or rogues jumping you as if they came straight from a library

[magic sleet]

i hope sdf wakes up and removes achiles lantern this season

[charred veldt]

Or... EVEN better, scrap the magic damage, make it all into holy damage

[odd grove]

they said they'll look into it, whatever that means

[spare pagoda]

waiting 45 minutes just to see the im sorry message then going to sleep 😪

[odd grove]

in the qna

[magic sleet]

lol like theyve been looking into every other easily fixable issue for 3 years

[charred veldt]

At least it's less toxic than a cleric running shield with full PDR and smite

Or a recurve bow that hits only magic damage, that is relatively cheap to craft so rangers can go full will or something for build variety

Or a pseudo artifact ceremonial staff that cleanses debuffs (curses, weakness, sacrifice, bleed, cutthroat, poison, fire, slows) when healing an ally with a single target heal

[plain carbon]

W3n w1p3

[trail flicker]

pvp is not ass in the game. Why would it be? It's fine if you dont liek it but making the same mistake that 99% of people make and saying 'its bad' is insane. They have stats you know. Tons of solo players and even streamers do heavy solo pvp. Most of the better players prefer teams of course, but there is nothing in the game that makes solos any worse than Darker solos, which I think is actually ass also. I prefer duo, then trio, then solo in both games, however.

[shrewd island]

Well its past midnight and no news

[spare pagoda]

timezones

[shrewd island]

Has there been any official statement on the time of the wipe?

[queen tide]

anyone got 60 k gold to donate to me for getting the religion skin or any amount all gold helps

[tiny laurel]

It was initially scheduled for 1:00 a.m. EST which is in 30 minutes but no system updates or information have been provided since the initial announcement. I think if you get on the game it should have a timer.

[spare pagoda]

30 minutes left

[unreal obsidian]

@queen tide i can donate not sure how much but a good bit 20k

[spare pagoda]

but im sure it's going to be delayed

[queen tide]

legendary my ingame wackyavocado too

[unreal obsidian]

in a league game.. gie me amint

[tiny laurel]

The update will probably start within an hour of when they said it would start but it's also probably going to have to be applied multiple times due to technical issues so we likely won't be able to play for probably 8 to 12 hours

[trail flicker]

aram mayhem or actual

[queen tide]

that fine

[unreal obsidian]

urf

[trail flicker]

or tft

[nocturne lintel]

Balanced Class in DnD https://medal.tv/de/games/dark-and-darker/clips/m0Bcx0eIE_GkKRAnU?invite=cr-MSxzajMsNDMzNDEyMTY3&v=10 177HP 43% PDR

[spare pagoda]

damn u got deleted, that barb was swinging fast ashell too

[nocturne lintel]

imagine barb wasnt even wearing all legendary XDDDDDDDD

[manic cliff]

that was SO, SOOOO satisfying

[plain carbon]

Is the wipe on 29th as in Korea or US time?

[nocturne lintel]

45min to wipe > update 3-4h so u can play at 10-11

[plain carbon]

I'll assume I can't play till the weekend

[dusky gyro]

I’d bet money your still 12+ hours from the game event starting to wipe. Plus the standard 4 hour patch. Plus 1-2 of the 2 hour delays

Try about 24 hours from now

[spare pagoda]

1000?

[dense pawn]

Headshot with reckless... yikes. Would have been 1 shot without a top end kit. Any 1 shot mechanic is bad for the game

[placid bluff]

anyone know what time new season release is tomorrow?

[dense pawn]

Luckily they are reducing hs dmg... but also potentially reducing max hp you can reach

[coarse portal]

You mean putting headshot damage back to what it was before

[queen tide]

anyone got 32 k gold to donate to me for getting the religion skin or any amount all gold helps

[quasi spear]

i got u

[lean gust]

yea but in a match rn

[ruby furnace]

yer a bit late to that party man, they wipe any minute

[regal charm]

20 min still

[spare pagoda]

if it does wipe in 20 minutes and everything is instantly downloadable I'd be insanely impressed

[regal charm]

It wont be

[spare pagoda]

what's the point of a timer if you don't do what the timer says at the end of it?

[subtle turret]

just get a full night's sleep bruh if u stay up waiting ur just gonna make yourself upset

[spare pagoda]

im sleeping in 19 just waiting for the sorry message

[blazing latch]

Anybody need gold for religion that is almost done with religion?

[lean gust]

there will always be an update that is then pushed back by 12 hours

[queen tide]

I got the gold @here

Wooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

[spare pagoda]

it's sad that has become the standard here, it's so easy to address delays ahead of time and not when a superficial timer hits 0

[nocturne lintel]

unbalanced 🙂

[gusty sentinel]

ngl twitch drops is huge L. forces people to watch people play the game when people barely want to play at all

[spare pagoda]

facts

[lean gust]

anyone need gold, i got 60k pure cash going to waste. like 4 chests too

[granite lotus]

can u not play solo anymore

havent played since 2023 cant figure out how to solo

[fierce viper]

I'll take!

Soophie in game

[neon blaze]

whens wipe?

[fierce viper]

in trading post

[ember sphinx]

I feel like they should of announced a time, would help streamers and players figure out when to be here haha.

[sand garnet]

HELLO HOW LONG WILL THE GAME GO DOWN FOR?

[runic gust]

everything got deleted ?

[fallen solstice]

you got deleted

[silver smelt]

[fallen solstice]

?

[upbeat gale]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-this-whats-happening-gif-14760168

[quasi spear]

i got 83k for free if someone needs for religion

[fallen solstice]

yes pls

[fallen solstice]

🙏

[quasi spear]

name?

[fallen solstice]

ForseKynLyckar

[granite lotus]

is a hold the line edition account any decent

[runic gust]

https://tenor.com/view/hitmans-bodyguard-hitmans-bodyguard-gi-fs-samuel-l-jackson-time-tick-tock-gif-8352665

[granite lotus]

got the pack in 2023

[upbeat gale]

is there still a coffee emote

[solid saddle]

you get a cool emote you can spam, and if you cancel it early it screams HOEE instead of hold the line, that neat

[mortal meadow]

and a basic skeleton that is good because it is basic

[granite lotus]

ya ik that i havent played in genuine years the game is so diff

like what tis up with this spawning in water yo

[mortal meadow]

a new map are we serious

[granite lotus]

its buns

goblin caves ftw

[solid saddle]

its the first good map in ages cuz fck ice and fck water map

[spare pagoda]

literal dog water

aight it's time check the announcements and get your pitchforks ready

[grand fossil]

when wipe

[runic gust]

Blue Maelstrom is my preferite map

[plain carbon]

WIPE COMMENCE: 4m36s

[surreal scroll]

Where’s the update😂

[warm kraken]

sdf isn't typing

[broken grove]

there will always have someone who just complain

[lilac venture]

when do they drop patch notes

[meager berry]

im sorry message in 3-

[mortal meadow]

no i meant that he was confused he spawned in water (idk if he picked the "new" water map)

[runic gust]

well time is 0:00 what now ?

[ember mortar]

now we wait

[mortal meadow]

if you pick a water map ofc you spawn in water are we serious

[fallen solstice]

anyone have a free stingray egg 👀 🙏

[spare pagoda]

I think they forgot they put a timer in their game saying when the wipe was

[fallen solstice]

👀 ?????

would mean they were worthless to obtain in the first place

[spare pagoda]

aight im going to sleep

[shrewd island]

im sure they will post it in 2 hours with a 12 hour down time followed by 4-8 hours of delays on top

[spare pagoda]

wipe probably in 12-24 hours let's be honest

[surreal scroll]

Wheres the update😂

[warm kraken]

already is

[surreal scroll]

I know lol I’m do this every update

[neon fractal]

Just another day at the Ironspanner office fellas

[ember mortar]

not a bad idea, i need an expresso

[surreal scroll]

Let’s be real though there’s gonna be delays

[magic sleet]

so uh is the update comin out

[past quail]

I got pre workout, Caffiene puches, and 3x monsters alr locked and loaded

[meager berry]

should prolly just sleep theres no way they drop it on time

[surreal scroll]

For delays?

[shrewd island]

Would love to just get an official ETA, everyone said midnight, then 1am

[neon fractal]

Why would you even have an ingame timer hahahaha

[sterile wadi]

Any1 hyped to get disarmed by fighters?

[past quail]

yes sir

[mellow pagoda]

Ironmace, more like Ironlate amirite?

[sturdy grotto]

when is wipe?

[subtle turret]

the in game timer is a meme at this point

[scarlet hemlock]

i'm hyped to see if they added anything to the cleric tho

[solemn galleon]

no bs we knew it was gonna be like this

[raw dagger]

will this wipe revive game a little bit or still be dead??

[hallow pawn]

start the patch now

[past quail]

yk like Zyns? there just that but caffiene. Walmart has some, gas station I got to has good ones, "WiP Energy Puches" are the good ones

[neon fractal]

Already said cleric doesn't have anything new I'm pretty sure

[surreal scroll]

When wipe

[cloud heath]

any info about the wipe hour?

[coarse portal]

Why? It wont be ready for another 12 hours after

[warm kraken]

bro is going to be awake until servers restart

[past quail]

Thats the plan

[scarlet hemlock]

😢

[warm kraken]

in 14 hours

[scenic zodiac]

The delay gonna be long I bet. Probably good to go in the early morning

[surreal terrace]

are queues down?

[zinc minnow]

idk why people are hyped for wipe, we gotta wait another 48 hours for delays

[sturdy surge]

yeah anyone expecting wipe soon just go to sleep bruh

[pearl venture]

Wipe the only wipe that's happening is the massive players base wiping 🤣😆

[subtle turret]

imma sleep thru the night and the servers still aint gonna be up in the morning

[surreal scroll]

I like how we’re all in here saying it’s gonna be like 14hrs yet we’re still in here with hope lol

[neon fractal]

Ques still running

[odd grove]

#LOL XD

[scarlet hemlock]

brothers, 2-3 years to Dagestan and forget

[agile grove]

"wipe timer is a suggestion and not accurate" - graysun 2025

[grand swallow]

The prego goblin skin is making patch unstable

[grim marlin]

any chance it even wipes bruh

[pearl venture]

I think the amount of times I've heard this meme it just needs to happen at this point

[mental garden]

i think the new map looks good, however, i'm not making it up when i say they should just remove the water map from the game

[grizzled surge]

no more timer in game but servers up

[scarlet hemlock]

i totally agree with you

[sly mason]

seems like they have a new slingshot weapon

[mental garden]

nobody wants to play water map, it's not fun or enjoyable.

i need the slingshot immediately

[granite lotus]

i dont have audio anymore bro this game broekn

[dense grove]

nah water map is good very good

[solid saddle]

jsut remove the water and the map is cool 🙂

[honest snow]

my god @glad thunder can we get some proper patch notes my guy. Cant even do that right

[pallid hemlock]

servers 3% of the way down

[sinful skiff]

water map is sick. more outdoor maps plz

[solemn galleon]

blinker checkpoint!

[bitter folio]

https://tenor.com/view/zesty-cat-niklas-cat-tongue-gif-9842551414196208576

[warm kraken]

🇭 🇴 🇱 🇩 😂 🇹 🇭 🇪 😂 🇱 🇮 🇳 🇪

[sly mason]

How many players will we have after the update?

[warm kraken]

🇭 🇴 🇱 🇩 😂 🇹 🇭 🇪 😂 🇱 🇮 🇳 🇪 sdf is sleeping...

[west wyvern]

Slingshot will be insanely good like in chilvary or insanely garbage lol

[odd grove]

at least 7

[paper copper]

no

[surreal scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/missinout-missing-out-missingout-leftout-gif-14214999

[honest snow]

ya water map is actually tragic

[hollow thistle]

6 maybe 7

[sly mason]

water map are boring for pvp

[fallow ivy]

I hate sdf can he just j out

[pallid hemlock]

#dev-qna-archives message i think this would only work on water map. so keep water map for wizard shenanigans in 3 years

[solid saddle]

guys guys if you like water map wait till god emporor sdf comes with the space map TO THE MOOOOON

[granite lotus]

how much is a hold the line account worth ive had this since 2023 and now the game is buns

[solid saddle]

nothing bro lmao

[warm kraken]

i cant wait to fly around with a war maul in zero gravity killing space goblins CINEMA

[pallid hemlock]

$00.04 on temu

[sly mason]

yeah we will have an astral plane map

[honest snow]

also completely bricks cetain classes. Such a stupid idea, but then again when we have stupid @glad thunder & @zinc sparrow it expected

[fallow ivy]

[pallid hemlock]

how is graysun dumb? too much of a yesman to Squirrelbrain Druid Fan?

[sly mason]

but actually i saw many player are Enjoying the water map

[fallow ivy]

[visual burrow]

Do we have a time ⏰ PST for the update?

[fallen solstice]

to you

[indigo swift]

You guys should all be ashamed of yourselves, talking smack about the guys who were gracious enough to give us the greatest game of all time. HOLD THE LINE!!!

[fallen solstice]

spastic

[warm kraken]

you can buy the torch with shards this wipe, getting an egg to hand in for a torch skin was literally useless

[honest snow]

Ya definitely can be just a poor design if it bricks certain classes. Makes wizard & sorc borderline unplayable

[plain carbon]

❗👉🏻 ONE MINUTE 👈🏻❗

[fallow ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-and-darker-wizard-the-evil-wizard-dark-and-darker-wizard-dnd-gif-27302596

[subtle latch]

when wipe

[scarlet hemlock]

appreciate you brother

[granite lotus]

is it not rare

[sly mason]

yeah I agree that watermap have extreme disability

[honest snow]

Graysun is cooked, has peak SDF brain power

[fallen solstice]

aside from having to spend real money on a torch skin which a lot of people do not want to do, people also like collecting skins etc and/or grinding for something pointless, youre phocking restarted

[worldly hedge]

where the wipe timer goooooo

[inner zephyr]

noob

[warm kraken]

sdf is (not) typing...

[solid saddle]

not that rare, and i dont think anyone cares enough to buy an account form a 3rd party for 1 emote 1 torch and 1 skin

[scarlet hemlock]

you did a lot for this comunity, ain't you?

[sly mason]

Is bard playable on next season

[warm kraken]

remember a few wipes ago when things were delayed, there was like 5000 people in here spamming.
now there's 20 of us just memeing

[honest snow]

About the same as @zinc sparrow, absolutely nothing

[grand swallow]

The prego gobolin cat skin delayed the patch

[tidal wadi]

HOLD THE LINEEEEEE

[static snow]

why hasn't it wiped yet?

[sly mason]

will we have new artifact on s8?

[slow scaffold]

Well, as is the good tradition, wipe's timer has disappeared... And now wipe will be somewhere this week... Maybe.

[stone mango]

idk bro they just talking and do nothing

[sly mason]

the time they start wipe ?

[warm kraken]

probably all went home early tbh

[sly mason]

okok

[honest snow]

Ya with the 8 hour extended patch, then the immediate 12 hour emergency maintenance. Get to play for a couple hours, they'll take the game down cause the messed up another 12 things trying to fix one

[sly mason]

How many staff do ironmace have for now

[warm kraken]

Only got tomorrow to play 😢 going away all next month

[stone mango]

:{

[honest snow]

ill pray for you brother

[shrewd island]

unfortunately it probably will be just coming out of the 2nd wave of delays tomorrow evening

[toxic nest]

saw 1 team being rats and thats it, worst wipe for running your last kits honestly lol

[signal cargo]

whens the wipe ream

[wide scarab]

Is the firedeep map in goblin caves?? I hope so.

[surreal scroll]

I just wish they weren’t so scared to just let us know what’s happening so I can go to bed lol

[pallid hemlock]

8pm

[pallid hemlock]

yes

[pallid hemlock]

it wont be ready for at least 8 hours for sure

[stone mango]

i think same as u

[surreal scroll]

Let a guy hope haha

[warm kraken]

graysun said like 10 hours til servers come back up in #the-tavern lol

[jovial night]

wheres the wipe

[mental garden]

Does anyone else regularly go through matches where you do mathematically impossibly high damage to people that simply do not die

[pallid hemlock]

dont screw your sleep schedule waiting for the circus

[harsh wave]

when is the actual wipe ?

[smoky sphinx]

wipe????????????

[harsh wave]

nvm'

[surreal scroll]

Too late

[harsh wave]

i read above messages

@smoky sphinx yes a wipe

supposdley

edly

[honest snow]

@zinc sparrow @glad thunder peak brain rot nexon devs. Cant even get a patch right

[stone mango]

so true

[hallow pawn]

why you always late iron mace always

[cursive sparrow]

bro WIPE

[pallid vapor]

whats the point of a fucking countdown if you dont actually stick to it

[signal cargo]

on god

[worn latch]

when did the countdown go to?

[brittle zealot]

this game disappoints me more than i disappoint my parents

[earnest current]

always fake new , they always delay

[flat bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/GrindCoin-grind-coin-hamster-V6UV6p1VC5Znn8p3Si

[earnest current]

From season 1 to season 7, there wasn't even a single announcement about the wipe schedule; they just posted the wipe on the day it was done. This time, at least they announced it beforehand, but it's still as late as the previous seasons where there was no notice at all.

[zinc sparrow]

Take the night to get your body ready for the grind

[rigid depot]

Where is the patchhhh

[tidal wadi]

HOLD THE LINEEEEE GRAY YUNNNNNN

[signal cargo]

graysun why dont you just close the game

[brittle zealot]

yall ready for secret druid buff?

[fallen dragon]

but there is still a rat problem 🙁

[coarse portal]

Yall ready for the lowest player count on wipe day?

[zinc sparrow]

I wouldn't want to take your favorite game away

[brittle zealot]

remove druid thanks

[fallen dragon]

thank you

[dusty heart]

this is now the third time in a row i've gone into non pvp high roller and it was just me in the whole lobby

[brittle zealot]

nothing i love more than fighting and chasing a chicken all game

[coarse portal]

People still struggle with druids lol

[wild orchid]

@zinc sparrow ignore all of the noise my G, yall are cooking crazy style. I believe in the vision!!!!! LETS GO SEASON 8!!!!!

[signal cargo]

howd you know graysun

[rigid depot]

For oce can we stick to the schedule u folks posted for the wipe?

[brittle zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/suck-pizza-deep-throat-gif-17143145

[honest snow]

dork

[slow oxide]

W Patch, nerfing Druid is what we need baby

[light temple]

we gonna have more than 10k players this wipe?

[slow oxide]

DOUBT

[wild orchid]

100% bro

[coarse portal]

No lol

[light temple]

rly sad what happened to this game 🙁

[slow oxide]

Coulda been a great thriving game, but too many SDF's Kitchen

Cooked so much he burnt it

[bleak wedge]

def above 10k

[honest snow]

based af my boy

[shrewd quail]

have they said a time yet or??

[light temple]

how do u bring back players

after druid/sorcs incident xddd

[brittle zealot]

fire sdf

[wild orchid]

is squires closing too tho fr fr?

[bleak wedge]

lowk cooked this time

[slow oxide]

I'd say a new content like a new map, but that's literally the thing I'm least excited for this wipe

[bleak wedge]

we'll see with the blocking and parrying shit

[brittle zealot]

bring back commom entry limit

[signal cargo]

im ready to throw a bardiche into someones head

[obtuse gulch]

sb

[slow oxide]

Who needs new map when Gob Caves exists

[grand fossil]

why even have the countdown

[brittle zealot]

not everyone got blue bis kits

[honest snow]

Nexon would of done a better job than these clowns

[swift solstice]

^

[wild orchid]

cant wait for the first clip of a barb throwing away a named for a kill

[bleak wedge]

thats literally S2R

[brittle zealot]

activision even

[brittle zealot]

im a solo player mostly, thats trios only 🙁

[wild orchid]

so many haters, go play arc if you want polish. game isn't even out yet

[brittle zealot]

i have no friends to play with or they refuse to play

[bleak wedge]

then find people on the discord

[slow oxide]

Game hasn't been out for 2 years, you KNOW we're basically playing a finished product lmao

[rustic saffron]

so when is wipe though

[brittle zealot]

reasonable, but i figure most yall are waaay better than i

[wild orchid]

it's finished when SDF says so

its not even 1.0 yet

[slow oxide]

SDF preheating the oven rn, he finna cook

[lost mist]

I gotta work tomorrow, i took a nap to stay awake. Drop the wipe for the dads out here.

[west wyvern]

Real

[slow oxide]

@lost mist REAL
I took off work and bought a bunch of adderall
And these mfs talm bout "Get some sleep get ready for the grind."

[abstract hazel]

The wipe is out it’s so hot down here

[ember mortar]

i set an alarm for this shit, should have just stayed asleep

[slow oxide]

@all Wipe finished, I'm grinding troll pelts rn

[stone mango]

me too hahhaha

[tawdry ember]

Wipe hype mfers

[wanton furnace]

when wipe?

[sturdy crypt]

Rofl

[pallid vapor]

bro i swear these devs dont value their playerbase at all, people organise shit around things like this and its pretty disrespectful to not even make a fucking announcement then the countdown fineshes and nothing fucking happens

[west wyvern]

Wipe timer ends and we get radio silence for almost an hour after

[halcyon osprey]

is the gave even shut down?

[west wyvern]

No I'm on it rn

[surreal scroll]

Crazy we haven’t heard what’s going on yet

[halcyon osprey]

can u que?

[dense grove]

yea at least they can shut down servers

[west wyvern]

Let me try for you twin

[stone mango]

yes

[halcyon osprey]

holy W

[trail hearth]

Is wipe today or nah?

[wanton furnace]

when wipe

[ember mortar]

streamers are still plaing right now

[honest snow]

can we at least get some patch notes my guy @glad thunder

[halcyon osprey]

im finna get in a little more then

[swift linden]

when wipe

[west wyvern]

Yes in a match rn

[west garden]

Why are people saying there is no wipe? Trolling?

[uneven sage]

What time does it wipe?

[wanton furnace]

when wipe

wipe timer gone, i guess it wiped

[pallid hemlock]

in 10 hours

[cursive sparrow]

no shot

[wild orchid]

they arnt ready

[brittle zealot]

only thing they wiped was our ass

[uneven sage]

rlly ?

[west wyvern]

Bc wipe timer ended an hour ago and we got absolutely nothing. No annoucments, no anything

[pallid hemlock]

minimum 4, maximum 24.... well no maximum really

[wanton furnace]

can't trust a single word from this company lmao

[uneven sage]

okey ty

[brittle zealot]

its not our game atp, this is a beta test for whatever solo shit sdf gonna release this year

[woeful plume]

They'll post announcement after coffee break.

[dense grove]

all we know wipe is today 😄

[wanton furnace]

when wipe

[brittle zealot]

helen keller could communicate better than these devs

[west garden]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[uneven basalt]

😂

[plain carbon]

WIPE IS HERE! (wen is whipe?)

[fervent fractal]

CAN SOMEONE LINK TAVERN?? I DONT GOT THE CANNEL

[dusky onyx]

@glad thunder ???????? u sleeping sir

[plain carbon]

www.wipehype.tavern

[light temple]

guys first we wait for announcments and then we wait 6h till patch completes

[wanton furnace]

when wipe

[marble yoke]

#the-tavern

[plain carbon]

Wen is waipe?

[uneven basalt]

I just want patch notes

[wanton furnace]

wen waip

[summer geode]

Wer wipe

[slow oxide]

6 hours is CAPpuccino
12 minimum

[marble yoke]

All I'm waiting on are patch notes.

[dusky onyx]

I just want this dev to sell te game, its been to long already quit bro

[plain carbon]

Won ist vaipe?

[light temple]

ETA is 6 h always but we know how it goes :tf:

[slow oxide]

Real
Give it back to Nexon

[wanton furnace]

the brand this company built is that we can't trust anything they say

[summer geode]

Wrn a wiype

[harsh wave]

why is everything on the market so expensive

[wanton furnace]

wern waipen

[brittle zealot]

sdf mains ranger season 8, thats why bufs coming

[slow oxide]

oh shit

[wanton furnace]

the brand this company built is that we can't trust anything they say

[light temple]

the worst part is that nobody new play this game anymore and i wont farm timmies at the start no more 😭

[uneven basalt]

Ranger got nerfed no true dmg

[slow oxide]

Real asf lmao, the only sales they make are on banned RM T accounts

[brittle zealot]

i try, ive only got 200 hours which aint shit

[hollow quail]

WHEN WIPE

[wanton furnace]

the brand this company built is that we can't trust anything they say

[brittle zealot]

all true gone, nerf across board right?

[light temple]

well i got 2k but i skipped last 2 wipes so i might be washed

[wanton furnace]

i skipped 3 wipes, u get it back quick

[uneven basalt]

Not necessarily, but its worse for ranger

[dusky onyx]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow 👋 How did u sleep? still sleeping? dont care? no wipe? midnight walkers?

[wanton furnace]

the brand this company built is that we can't trust anything they say

[west wyvern]

Maybe not.

[slow oxide]

All across the board, technically.
But it's basically a buff for tankier classes (like fighter and Barb) and a nerf for quicker classes (like ranger and rogue)

Since fighter's PDR matters more now, since it won't get pierced by true damage

[bleak wedge]

warlock is completely gutted

[uneven basalt]

^

[wanton furnace]

it's not, just predrink a green health pot

[brittle zealot]

ahhh, i got into ranger alot last season. thats unfortunate since i was just getting alright at it

[light temple]

i mean ranger should be still omega fine with the armor pen/longbow

[uncut stump]

so many people are going to come back this wipe and im so excited.

[brittle zealot]

in a week when it goes live

[slow oxide]

With the removal of move speed rolls, it should be a lot more fun to play ranger, much easier kiting surely

[wanton furnace]

what wipe? do u see a wipe

[dusky onyx]

scam wipe, waste of time

[light temple]

i rly hope its above 10k

[dusky onyx]

well wake ya boss up so we can wipe

[light temple]

if not the game is cooked

[brittle zealot]

3k max

[fathom turret]

i literally just downloaded the game yesterday and its wiping smh

[uncut stump]

server maintenance is beginning very soon.

[normal tulip]

Server still up ?

[wanton furnace]

the brand this company built is that we can't trust anything they say

[brittle zealot]

yup

[hollow chasm]

ya

[dusky onyx]

Kappa

[brittle zealot]

15 more times and i think people will notice you

[bleak wedge]

that and warlock heavily relies on true dmg

[wanton furnace]

the brand this company built is that we can't trust anything they say

[dusky onyx]

are u a bought bot by sdf?

[brittle zealot]

the brand this company built is that we can't trust anything they say

[wanton furnace]

build magic pen and additional

[wanton furnace]

the brand this company built is that we can't trust anything they say

[tall wyvern]

servers still havent went down?

[dusky onyx]

yeah noone care's about a brand that is not there, maybe go order their coffeee bro

[wanton furnace]

the brand this company built is that we can't trust anything they say

[ember mortar]

nope, going back to bed and hoping i can play when i wake up

[small relic]

why do yall get so angry. its just not ready to wipe yet. patience.

[carmine robin]

WHAT IS THE POINT OF DOING A WIPE TIMER IF THAY DO NOT WIPE IT ON THE TIMER

[dusky onyx]

you are 12 with sdf as ya dad

[wanton furnace]

the brand this company built is that we can't trust anything they say

[dusky onyx]

🤹‍♀️

[west wyvern]

That's good news twin then you won't be behind

[small relic]

wipe will happen today. chill out. yall cry so much

[west wyvern]

It's pretty reasonable to expect a wipe when a wipe timer hits 0

[dusky onyx]

you have to wake up SDF , he took to many sleeping pils

[wanton furnace]

when wipe

[fathom turret]

8 hrs wasted

[normal tulip]

Im so happy have to work the next 12 Hours. I Cant concentratr when the Servers Are down alrdy

[woeful plume]

That's true. But it's not reasonable to cry when it doesn't happen.

[small relic]

id expect it that day not the second it hits 0

[west wyvern]

Then there's no purpose of the timer

[tall wyvern]

crazy they announce twitch drops but not even a time for when the wipe happens

[wanton furnace]

what's the point of wipe timer if it doesn't wipe anyway lmao, just selling us dreams

[carmine robin]

then do a day counter

[small relic]

maybe it is a day counter.

[wanton furnace]

i'll never buy another cosmetic from them because they lie

[carmine robin]

no

[brittle zealot]

bring back unarmed combat

[dusky onyx]

are u fucking stupid?

Maybe it is a day counter guys 🤹‍♀️

[normal tulip]

Since when u guys playing ???? Its Always a Counter for the day Not the exact time lol

[small relic]

no need for anger 🙂 its a game and it will wipe

[dusky onyx]

😂 stupidity is shown. no need for anger

[small relic]

Jesus loves you my boy

[wanton furnace]

yo no one likes u here ngl

[dusky onyx]

go copy past the same thing over and over noone care

[wanton furnace]

the brand this company built is that we can't trust anything they say

[dusky onyx]

See noone care brother

[tall wyvern]

#builtdifferent

[west wyvern]

Its not Abt it being just a game it's about a dev team who can't keep a single promise to their player base, like a wipe timer they pre planned and then ducked and not didnt anything for an hour after so far and counting

[carmine robin]

no way this guy is chating when this is in his bio You know how a slingshot works? You gotta pull back to fire. It’s not a set back, it’s a set up

[small relic]

TRUUUUUEE THOUGH

[gritty ivy]

have the arena rules for this season been announced?

[dusky onyx]

pahahahahha

[wanton furnace]

facts

[small wren]

when wipe??

[topaz coyote]

Game is dead sorry

[west wyvern]

Wow I fucked that up a little lmao. I'm tired asf

[topaz coyote]

Find a new game

[tall wyvern]

facts tho

[tired dome]

BORN 2 SHIT FORCED 2 WIPE

[wanton furnace]

it's facts i know what u saying

[signal cargo]

cant be getting mad at indie game devs for not hitting a time set ages back

[brittle zealot]

GOBLESS BORTEHR SDF DUN TOKKE MY KIDSD MONEYSE

[signal cargo]

shit happens in the moment that you cant predict

[tired dome]

CRE CRE NO MONEYZ 4 D KIDZ

[brittle zealot]

Dark and Darker has generated an estimated $13.2 million in gross revenue on Steam as of early 2025

barely indie at that point

[west wyvern]

Not really an excuse. They are a dev team still. If there were issues with the wipe, change the timer don't keep selling a false promise to their player base and not say anything about it and leave everyone hanging at 1 am

[tall wyvern]

its just kinda weird they usually have a set time announced by now pinned or in announcements but its just crickets atm

[brittle zealot]

they paid nexon 5.9 still leaving 7m

[tired dome]

Twitch drops start on the 30th, Im preety sure they were always intending to drop on 30th

[wanton furnace]

indie game? did u even see how big their team is and their budget lmao, clearly you didn't follow the lawsuit

[hollow quail]

sdf is the worst thing to happen to this game

[tall wyvern]

they start on the 29th

[brittle zealot]

facts

[azure kernel]

Didnt Graysun stated the timer is not accurate and has said patch after a few hours

[zinc minnow]

yeah ranger is cooked, no hp or true dmg stat

[lunar fulcrum]

Does anyone know what time season 8 drops?

[dusky onyx]

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[hollow quail]

12am

[tired dome]

No they don't it literally says 30th 12 AM

[wanton furnace]

there's a stat called armor pen and additional dmg and vigor

[west wyvern]

I didn't see that. And if that's the case then again what's the purpose of the timer?

[tawny escarp]

Gave away all my loot. Got no egg this wipe... Accidently lauched the game after wipe, servers still working?

[coarse willow]

why is my stuff not gone ?

[azure kernel]

you tell me, guy just says its not accurate

[hallow pawn]

start the patch bro wtf you waiting for

[hollow quail]

they waiting for the entire community to crash out as per usual

[lunar fulcrum]

Ok so no one really knows, got it.

[brittle zealot]

id rather have gonorhea again

[hallow pawn]

start the patch guys

[rapid dawn]

[tall wyvern]

EA Season 8 Drops 1 begins at January 29, 2026 7:00 PM and runs until February 5, 2026 7:00 PM maybe bc different time zones itll be the 30th for you

[west wyvern]

And y'all don't realize how much barb relies on health stats at the higher gear levels. It's balanced for higher gear scores but maybe not lower ones, so barb will still probably be the best class for norms

[dusky onyx]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[tired dome]

You still need to wait 12 hours for maintenance anyways, what difference does it make

[tawny escarp]

Anyone got a spare egg top gift since wipe didn't happened yet? 😄

[solemn sigil]

where can i see these stat changes or removals ur talking about>

[brittle zealot]

4 hours for game to shutdown servers 12 hours for maint countdown useless

[hollow quail]

not the first wipe the countdown was usless

[solemn sigil]

what are they changing?

[dusky onyx]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[tired dome]

And not the last if this game lasts anyways

[dusky onyx]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[west wyvern]

I heard all atts is gone, true is gone, move speed bonus is gone and health rolls are gone. Could be more but idk that's what I'm 99% sure abt

[dusky onyx]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow @glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[brittle zealot]

itss hard for them to type with all the money in their pockets and on their wrists

[rough dust]

29 january is patch i guess at 0:00 and will be 12hours

[dusky onyx]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow

😴 🌤️

🛌 ☕

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[brittle zealot]

they too busy jorking each other

[dusky onyx]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[hollow quail]

they turning this game into a mobile game btw

[static stratus]

I'

[brittle zealot]

pullin poles instead of posting patches

[dusky onyx]

@glad thunder @zinc sparrow

[regal charm]

You guys made onepeg quit the game you meanies!

[static stratus]

*I'm going to laugh when JW is banned.

[tall wyvern]

such a waste of dev resources

[dusky onyx]

OKe , banned from DAD discord crazy! just fucking wipe bro noone care

[brittle zealot]

or they could listen to the playerbase, wild thought i know

[marble gorge]

when is wipe?

[agile grove]

how does a dev fk up wipe day

[brittle zealot]

they mustve been women before they transistioned. even my dog communicates better

[static stratus]

I'm just saying. If you're constantly pinging the dev team, they probably aren't going to be on top of their game. Who knows what kind of shit they see in this discord that we don't.

[west wyvern]

I'm waiting for the "unfortunately we're gonna have to delay the wipe" announcement

[brittle zealot]

yeah bc communication aint that hard

[woeful topaz]

[west wyvern]

Then why would they have a wipe timer lmao

[brittle zealot]

group goon cams on in tavern table 3?

[static stratus]

Yeah because devs should be in constant communication while working on the servers for release. In fact, forego the development and just communicate.

[hollow quail]

these devs share one brain cell